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hello and welcome to episode 19 of
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Runners only with dom Harvey that's me
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today on the show Joseph Parker I had
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when we first played at 12 right amateur
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fight right and I was I wasn't in the
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best shape I was short and chubby but
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the guy that was fighting was chubbier
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so he made me look at here you made me
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look like I was in good shape Joe's a
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man that needs no introduction but in
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case you've been hiding somewhere for
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the past 10 years he's one of the
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world's best boxers and he's from right
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here in New Zealand Joe's an open book
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and we talk about so much in this
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episode we talk about his relationship
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with running of course his relationship
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with Tyson Fury his thoughts on so many
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people uh Sonny Bill Williams Jake and
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Logan Paul Tommy Fury Molly May and many
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others he shares why he felt empty after
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becoming the world champion we talk
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about the Anthony Joshua fight his legal
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controversy of last year and we also
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talk about his recent marriage and the
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upcoming birth with his fourth child
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I've known Joseph for a long time now
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and I love the chance to sit down with
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him and have a deeper conversation and I
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really hope you guys enjoy this too
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get into it
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just wanna connect for everyone who
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loves running this is
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[Music]
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Runners only with dom Harvey and my
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friends Joseph are we friends all
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friends see this is the funny thing of
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um interview you maybe 20 times
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um I've got your phone number I will
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text you the day of a fight and say good
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luck and you'll always text back
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um but I wonder if we're actually
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friends or if this is just you as a
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person and you're like that with
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everyone everyone feels like they're
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your mate I don't yeah I think everyone
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thinks it feels like I'm their mate butt
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and my phone
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I don't have everyone's number like the
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whole world on my phone so everyone that
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does text me back I I consider them as
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friends right yeah and the people that I
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keep in touch with right do you remember
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once you you called me I was on a
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supermarket and um you're inviting me to
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a party but it turns out you would mean
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it's called Dominic Bowden oh yeah do
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you remember that I do remember yes I do
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I said oh sorry mate uh sorry bro I hope
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you're doing well uh all the best I was
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I was I was so excited I was in like the
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muesli bar Island Joseph Parker's name
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came up on myself I only have like five
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Doms in my phone and when I called you I
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yeah I was like I was like and then I
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said oh I invited the wrong Dharma
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doesn't it oh man
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um so how are you well we're sitting in
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your your gym garage at home in South
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Auckland it's a beautiful property um
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you've been overseas and whereabouts in
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the ukum morecam one hour north of
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Manchester so yeah it must be so nice to
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be back home very nice there's no place
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I mean that saying this is very true
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there is no place yeah and I've traveled
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all around the world I've fought all
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around the world met a lot of people had
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a lot of fun but when I come home it's
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like there's a different feeling about
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coming out yeah yeah oh that's special
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and you didn't have to do in my queue
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this time you know it made you you've
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done that before with your entire family
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the dinner with the wife and kids and
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it's great to spend quality time yeah
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but you're only allowed out of the you
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know the room once a day or twice a day
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and it's only for an hour so it was
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quite hard but it's nice to climb back
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arrive at the airport have them waiting
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at the airport running to me Daddy Daddy
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welcome back and then coming to your
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home and being able to relax and chill
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yeah and see family yeah that's so good
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now the podcast is called Runners only
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with dom Harvey so do you know what to
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be totally honest I used to not like
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running
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honestly because I think I wasn't good
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at it right what do you mean in terms of
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like I just I wasn't good at it because
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I was uh
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I was chubby back in the day and every
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time I ran I had a sore back maybe
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because my stomach wasn't strong enough
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or and my legs would get tired and I
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thought and what this is not for me when
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you say back in the day when do you mean
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what sort of age like school age or it's
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like school age onwards yeah I just
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thought ah you know running is very hard
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and I'm getting tired fast and I'm you
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know like I couldn't even run two
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kilometers and I would be tired I
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thought as a young boy you should be
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able to run I see everyone else running
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long distances and you know being able
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to run and enjoying it and having fun
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but I wasn't enjoying it back in the day
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do you do you enjoy it now is that
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something you do is a necessary evil for
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aerobic fitness for boxing for boxing
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it's not so much for boxing but I just
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love being out there now I love I love
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you know just going out there you're on
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your own sometimes you're on your own
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sometimes you're off a group but it's
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just time to think and it's sort of it's
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very challenging because sometimes you
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want to stop sometimes oh I can just go
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for a walk here and here but there's a
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sort of like push now now I keep going
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keep going right to the end don't stop
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I like the challenge so how far do you
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normally run like 10ks no for boxing uh
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three miles four miles okay sometimes
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six miles right right but most most of
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the time is four miles right it's about
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what 6K 7K yeah
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so not not the longest runs but and it's
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just a constant Pace it's not like one
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of the fastest runners in the world we
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just go at a good Pace do you have any
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idea of what sort of pace you're doing
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is it like five minute kilometers or six
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minutes I think seven minute Miles
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when did you start talking miles is this
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is this from your time in the states the
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time it's yeah time and estate and time
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in the UK because everything you know
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everything that we talk about there's
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miles right right
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um because the staff that you've shared
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on Instagram in particular the stuff
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with um you and and Tyson Fury's Camp um
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it looks like you guys have a lot of fun
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when you run oh so we have the best time
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yeah because we're running in a group
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we're chatting away we're telling jokes
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we're having a laugh and then we um
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sometimes the pace picks up and we're
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chatting challenging each other then
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sometimes we add a few Sprints here and
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there
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and it's just it's just uh I think
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there's a great it's a great thing to do
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it with the team and as a team and and
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then um there's things you do like the
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Jolene challenge which is um you play
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the Dolly Parton
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um so you play the um the Jolene song
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from Dolly Parton and then every time
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she says the word Jolene you do a press
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up yeah is that like do you stop during
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the round do that or is that at the end
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of The Run yes that's at the end of the
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run right and I'll tell you that's the
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first time I did it I I I they completed
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it but it was very very hard the end of
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the following camp that I went and did
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it um I was able to do it a lot better
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but um after see the fun things we do
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right we do a run and then we do a
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Jolene Challenge and we do other
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challenges that you know challenge each
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other you know while we're there just
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just to bring the Beast out of one
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another just to bring the best out of
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one another oh man listen there's so
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much that we need to we need to talk
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about I want to yeah talk a lot about um
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Tyson Fury because he's like one of the
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greatest athletes in the world and he's
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your mate yeah um and we're bringing him
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down to New Zealand we're looking at
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bring him to New Zealand are you yeah in
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September sometime wow for for I think
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he's gonna come down he's going to do a
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tour right we're looking at doing a tour
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she's going to come down and uh just
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share his knowledge and and talk to
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people and share his experiences and
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mental health and I think it'd be great
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to his way of giving back to the
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community right
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I get him on my podcast
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what's up
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um yeah yeah we'll talk about that later
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first of all I want to go right back to
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the beginning so your dad's name is
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Dempsey yeah uh after the Box uh jacked
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him yeah so this is like your destiny in
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a way isn't it like you your dad was
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into boxing
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um when you were like three you'd like
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yeah yeah punch your dad's Palms of his
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hands I feel like this was my destiny
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and my dad was named after a fighter
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couldn't box himself because of a
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disability right and he always loved
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boxing and he had a few street fights
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and we lived in Samoa and that's a huge
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a lot of people said he was it's quite
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the tough man he's quite the tough man
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he was oh Dempsey so um so yeah so he
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was it quite like Tiger Woods in a way
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so Tiger Woods Dad wasn't a great golfer
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but I had a passion for golf passion was
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and at a young age buying videotapes of
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Mike Tyson buying video tips to other
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fighter Larry Holmes
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um and we would watch it
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watch it and teach us and take us to
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different gyms and just give us the best
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that he could in terms of what he knew
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about boxing yeah so when did you when
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did you start what team uh 10 years old
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yeah who are you fighting at 10. I had
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won my first fight at 12. right amateur
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fight right and I was I wasn't in the
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best shape I was short and chubby but
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the guy that was fighting was chubbier
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so he made me look at here he made me
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look like I was in good shape
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so I I won that fight it was a good it
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was a good start to my boxing career so
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did you play any other sports like prior
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to that volleyball rugby I got a
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cauliflower here from you know playing
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lock is it from rugby I've noticed your
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cauliflower here before but I just I
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thought you must have been punched in
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the air rugby rugby right playing lock I
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played volleyball when I said I play
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cricket you ever play cricket I tried
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for the team in school when they didn't
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it's gonna pick me so I said no
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well and then and then you so was it 12
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the age that you like settled on boxing
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12 was when I had my first fight and it
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was about 15 or 16 when I started
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traveling the world representing New
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Zealand yeah I settled on boxing did you
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did you win that first fight at 12. I
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won the first fight yeah
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can you remember his name or anything oh
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listen uh if I could meet the guy I'd
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like to say thanks for the first
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experience in boxing but yeah I forgot
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his name I wonder if he he remembers
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your name and that you know you're on
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there that we fought each other and yeah
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so you won that fight how um can you
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remember much of how you were feeling
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like prior to it so you're 12 years old
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I'm guessing you're in form one form two
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sort of thing yeah um like were you
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[ __ ] bricks or were you just so
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young and dumb that you didn't sort of
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have that I I I can remember being very
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nervous you know your first fight and
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then your parents are there and you you
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know your dad's name is Dempsey he loves
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boxing telling everyone else around him
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that you're gonna my son's gonna be
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champion of the world one day and you
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want you really want to do well and
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impress and you know give it your best
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but I've really I remember feeling very
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nervous and just like all these people
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eyes on me this is this is at the ABA
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like the Auckland boxing Association
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like um it's not like there wasn't a lot
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of people there but for a young boy at
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12 years old it felt like a 10 000 crowd
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was there watching me well this I mean
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there's not many people there but all
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eyes all eyes are on you but what you do
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is probably one of my worst fear is I
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think like being in a being in a box I
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think you should do a boxing fight
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absolutely not
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never it must be I mean the thought of
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like being in the ring and you have all
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your corner men and whatever and then
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everyone leaves and it must be just the
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most lonely and terrifying thing it is
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and and before a fight you're with your
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whole team when you're in the ring
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you're with your your team's there with
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you but you're you're fighting by
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yourself the whole crowd is here yeah so
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so that moment for me sounds absolutely
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terrifying but that's because I know I
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wouldn't be very good but for you on the
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other hand is it a is it a terrifying
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moment now or is it exciting because
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it's like um you know I'm gonna I'm
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gonna beat this [ __ ] out going into the
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plane yeah exciting everything is done
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like you with running the preparation is
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key
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whenever you train hard you do
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everything right and you know mental
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side of things physical side of things
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when you go into the ring that is time
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to enjoy and have fun I'm not listen
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there's a different enjoyment like
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it's a reward for all your hard work and
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even though the reward is getting
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punched in the face and punching someone
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else in the face
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but it's what we it's what we train to
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do yeah yeah you've seen that to me over
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the years and I find it hard to believe
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like um I I don't know I I do believe
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you but part of me feels like it's um
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you know you imagine can you imagine
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yourself but imagine training your whole
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life in like even like Camp doesn't go
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smoothly and in Camp you get injuries
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you're sore you're tired you're
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frustrated you're mentally drained
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because you're learning all these
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different things and then the fight week
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everything tapers off and you're sort of
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fresh and you're edging to go like
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that's that's enjoyment I I for me let's
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enjoyable yeah yeah I mean yeah I
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suppose there's a lot of like parallels
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between boxing and writing in that
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respect yeah yeah so when you get when
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you get in the ring you you can just say
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to yourself trust the training you know
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you've done the work and Trust the
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process try to trust the structure trust
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the training and have fun right when
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you're going into the ring like uh my
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brother fought on a weekend and he won
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his fight and it got on him and uh
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before the fight I caught Tyson I said
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hey Ty's John's waiting and they were
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talking uh on Fight Night and um Tyson
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just said to him John relax and enjoy
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yourself go out there and have fun
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that's all it is going out there and
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having fun yeah do you think like if you
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get two nervous nerves can get the
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better of you nerves can be like a good
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thing or a bad thing yeah nerves nerves
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will drain your energy in boxing
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and so the good thing about if I talk
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about me and Tyson we we warm up the
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same music is playing we're dancing
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we're singing we're having fun telling
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jokes when I saw his warm-up uh before a
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fight I was like that's exactly how I
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warm up
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just chilled out until you have to get
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into the ring and fight yeah
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so so back to the amateur stuff so you
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had how many amateur fights was it like
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100 or so I had about 85 85 the amateur
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fights most of them International right
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traveling around the world and
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representing New Zealand yeah because
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you went to a commonwealth what the
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north games did you go to that was uh
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coming off Champs in 2010 in India right
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then I went to the uh World youth Champs
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in Azerbaijan you know somewhere close
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to Russia they went to um the
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Commonwealth Games in a single Olympics
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right where did you finish in the
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Commonwealth Games did you get a medal
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or no no
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it doesn't get a middle one does that
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get you yeah because I was so close I
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was I was beating you know I beat the
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fair guy in the tournament to win and
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then I lost the next fight to somebody
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from uh Trinidad and Tobago right that
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was a close fight I was I was beating
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him as well and then he got the better
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of me my certainness fitness
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right is that what it is yeah my furnace
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and I think being over trained right
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over trained over trained so can you
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remember who who beat you at the the
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commonwealth games are they still boxing
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are they doing anything now I don't
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think you saw boxing but it was a guy
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from Trinidad and Tobago I remember that
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so what a badge of honor for him yeah
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beating Joseph Parker smashed me no
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badge of honor for him but I also it
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must be like I must grind him in some
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ways that you know you're you're
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fighting at the O2 or whatever against
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AJ earning millions of dollars and he
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beat you and he's not doing that yeah
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I'm fighting and yeah AJ and Cardiff um
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right nearly 80 000 people they could
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have been him it could have been other
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people they beat me yeah yeah how come
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you never made it to the Olympics I
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didn't make it to Olympics because I
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lost the tournament the qualifying
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tournament that I needed to win that but
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before then I beat three or four guys
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that already went to the Olympics
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seems like you
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you're not very good or was this like
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was this like your apprenticeship I'll
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tell you the truth I wasn't taking it
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seriously okay there was a certain time
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where I did take it seriously and then
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put on work but in other times I just
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enjoyed myself
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they didn't train hard enough ate
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whatever I wanted to do hung up with my
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friends and thought that I could show up
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and win because of talent which wasn't
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the case so so out of all those amateur
00:16:25
fights what was your win loss record can
00:16:27
you remember I can't remember I can't
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remember there's a yellow book that was
00:16:30
supposed to keep it has all our
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um someone eat it
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I would have had 80 fights and I lost
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10. right right well most of them
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International
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I like all over the world okay was that
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just pretty much sort of natural Talent
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really you know it seems like you're
00:16:48
trained reasonably hard but as you said
00:16:49
before you know you were partying
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hanging with your friends or whatever
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yeah doing all of that so it was a lot
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of it just natural talent I I feel I was
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blessed with the talent of boxing yeah
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yeah and how obviously encourage from my
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dad at a young age and then blessed with
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this talent but I didn't give it
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everything
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um until I turned professional right
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when was the decision made to turn
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professional and why at that particular
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moment it seems like you were an amateur
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yeah a lot of fights in a lot of years
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yeah I was in amateur for a while and
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the you know when I didn't miss out on
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the Olympics it was one of those uh it
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was a dream to attend the Olympics and
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do well at it of course when I missed
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out
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um my parents went looking for my
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parents my management team with my uncle
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went looking for a team who could help
00:17:28
me in my professional career and that
00:17:30
was Duco events
00:17:32
so because I beat three or four guys
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that already went to the Olympics I knew
00:17:35
I was on that level
00:17:36
and I just had to find the right team to
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train hard and actually Focus properly
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and put in the work from my perspective
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of um being in commercial radio at that
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time at a top 40 station called The Edge
00:17:48
Duco did a fantastic job there was um
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Dean lonigan and David Higgins we would
00:17:53
never have had boxes on because our
00:17:55
audience wasn't really into boxes but
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you came along and and you were young
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and you were articulate and you were
00:18:02
handsome and you didn't sound like a
00:18:03
boxer
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um and we've we interviewed you maybe 20
00:18:07
times we had some great fun yeah I
00:18:09
remember you and Kevin had some great
00:18:11
fun in particular oh yeah okay we'll
00:18:13
talk about that sure okay
00:18:14
um so this is Kevin Barry who so did
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Duco team you up with Kevin Barry
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bouquet I linked me with Kevin Barry
00:18:21
right so that was after you turned Pro
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was he sort of instrumental do you think
00:18:25
in getting you to take it more seriously
00:18:26
yeah yeah he was a big influence in my
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boxing career um in the very beginning
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um I had like about three flights here
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in New Zealand professionally when I
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signed up of Duco then when I it took me
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a while to sign the contract with duka
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because I was very nervous my team were
00:18:40
nervous and this was an old new sort of
00:18:42
experience for us a new chapter but I'm
00:18:44
very happy because Duco invested a lot
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in me and right in the beginning in
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terms of money really how do you mean
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flights right accommodation food
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training camp uh training course
00:18:55
aspiring Partners everything and still
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paying me a purse right they invested
00:19:00
heavily wow without knowing if I was
00:19:02
actually going to be good or not it's
00:19:04
also like having it having a punt on a
00:19:05
horse yeah so so what was the money like
00:19:08
in the beginning with 2K what sort of
00:19:09
you go from amateur Pro like I'm
00:19:11
guessing anything's good was it as an
00:19:13
amateur some some tournaments you made a
00:19:15
bit of money like how much what are you
00:19:16
talking about two thousand yeah a couple
00:19:19
of grand and then I assigned a contract
00:19:21
you fight uh in China I was in China
00:19:22
fighting for a while
00:19:24
uh World Series boxing and I actually
00:19:27
lived in China for I don't know three
00:19:28
four or five months
00:19:29
fighting all around China Beijing
00:19:32
um Macau
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and then as a professional as when I
00:19:36
signed professional I made like the
00:19:38
first five I made what two almost five
00:19:40
thousand dollars
00:19:41
it was good I spent it all my first car
00:19:43
with Toyota Toyota Corolla 1994.
00:19:47
put mags on it it sounds system
00:19:48
everything well [ __ ] I'm looking out in
00:19:50
your driveway now there's a couple of
00:19:52
jeeps out there there's like a a key uh
00:19:54
family wagon
00:19:56
um you don't know it's a bit of an
00:19:57
upgrade from the Corolla big upgrade I'm
00:19:59
fortunate like as a fighter or as a like
00:20:02
as an athlete I get looked after by a
00:20:03
lot of people and Andrew Simmons really
00:20:05
look after me who's Andrew Sims uh the
00:20:07
car company oh okay right so every time
00:20:09
I come back they always give me a car
00:20:10
I'm like thank you guys it's not funny
00:20:12
how it works like it gets to the point
00:20:13
where you can afford your own Vehicles
00:20:15
yeah and some and then that's when
00:20:16
people start giving and clothes shoes
00:20:18
whatever strange how that works you're
00:20:20
right at uh right in the beginning when
00:20:22
you need to help no one wants to help
00:20:25
you yeah
00:20:26
but like when you've made it and you're
00:20:28
sort of you're doing well for yourself
00:20:30
and you can afford it people want to
00:20:31
help you yeah [ __ ] you've made some
00:20:34
sacrifices oh so you you so you team up
00:20:36
with Kevin Barry
00:20:38
um and then you spend a lot of time in
00:20:39
Vegas I spent eight years in Vegas with
00:20:41
Kevin
00:20:42
eight years on like on and off I think
00:20:44
I've been a Vegas over 30 times in those
00:20:46
eight years when people think of Vegas
00:20:48
they think of the fun place that you go
00:20:50
they think of the strip they think of
00:20:51
the place where you go and you spend
00:20:52
three days two nights there and then
00:20:53
you're done out of Vegas it's a very
00:20:55
different vibe out of Vegas it's like
00:20:57
normal family life there's schools
00:21:00
there's shops there's like little
00:21:02
Community groups yeah yeah so it's a
00:21:05
very normal place we're staying
00:21:07
um where Kevin lives I was living at his
00:21:09
house with him as his wife Tanya and
00:21:11
their family and the kids and you and
00:21:13
you're just living eating breathing
00:21:15
sleeping boxing all I did was train eat
00:21:17
sleep repeat
00:21:19
the whole time I was there right
00:21:21
obviously as the time went on and I got
00:21:23
comfortable I made a lot of friends and
00:21:24
I started you know experiencing what
00:21:26
Vegas was
00:21:27
but uh but I was able but always seeing
00:21:31
where Kevin was and staying at his house
00:21:33
I was always able to focus because he
00:21:35
was away from the strip and the gym was
00:21:37
just not far from the house and we had a
00:21:39
good schedule and a good structure in
00:21:41
place yeah yeah he's um he's very good
00:21:44
isn't he Kevin is very good very good
00:21:46
yeah you touched upon Kevin before so
00:21:48
you and Kevin came in for an interview
00:21:49
one day and this is um actually I like I
00:21:52
regret this now I was I was an [ __ ]
00:21:54
but the thing is um like what I'm doing
00:21:57
now with the podcast is I can have um I
00:21:59
can have like proper conversations with
00:22:00
people like you and and we don't have to
00:22:02
get you to change a nappy or yeah or all
00:22:05
those uh do dumb stuff that's required
00:22:07
when you're doing a radio show like that
00:22:08
so you and Kevin came in actually can
00:22:11
you tell the story can you yeah this is
00:22:13
my perspective right this is what I
00:22:15
remember we came in and did an interview
00:22:16
and and everything was going well and
00:22:18
asking questions we're answering it and
00:22:21
I answered a lot of questions and Kevin
00:22:22
answered a few questions and then you
00:22:25
jumped in with this great idea of asking
00:22:27
a Christian online and on air live
00:22:30
about Kevin's here
00:22:33
and as soon as you asked the question
00:22:34
whether it was real or not you walked
00:22:37
over and touched it and I could see you
00:22:40
know fuming and oh listen he never asked
00:22:42
he never answered any questions after
00:22:44
that I was asked I was answering all the
00:22:45
questions yeah that's what I remember it
00:22:48
was um I mean I'm embarrassed about it
00:22:50
now like it's um it's a terrible thing
00:22:52
to do like going over and like tagging
00:22:53
another man's hair
00:22:55
um it was dumb but I was like doing it
00:22:56
is it because of the radio and you're
00:22:59
trying to do things so I mean I've got
00:23:01
to own it because I didn't no one asked
00:23:02
me to do it but um you know you just
00:23:04
want to get a little bit of video
00:23:06
content that's going to stand out I mean
00:23:08
had Kevin punched me it would have been
00:23:10
amazing you know it would have been it
00:23:12
would have just would have knocked my
00:23:13
teeth out or it would have just about
00:23:15
killed me but but it was Dumb and it was
00:23:17
really that was really horrible to me it
00:23:19
was it was it was it was a nasty thing
00:23:21
to do and then as soon as the mics went
00:23:22
off he came up to me and said like like
00:23:24
danced around me like a boxer and said
00:23:26
something like oh you think you're funny
00:23:27
to your boy you think you're funny
00:23:29
do you remember that I was [ __ ]
00:23:32
myself
00:23:33
doesn't take any book
00:23:36
so so he's been good to you and then so
00:23:39
you were with him for many many years in
00:23:40
many fights why the decision to to break
00:23:43
up it seems like you'll break up with
00:23:44
him was was good yeah it was a good
00:23:46
breakup we're still very um close
00:23:48
because of the you know the eight years
00:23:50
we spent together yeah I was living at
00:23:52
his house you know he was treating me
00:23:53
like his son and and just giving me
00:23:55
every bit of knowledge that he had in in
00:23:57
the boxing world and we still committed
00:24:00
unless I went to Tyson's fight with
00:24:01
Deontay Wilder and I went and stayed at
00:24:03
the house right when I sat at the house
00:24:05
in Vegas the reason why I left uh Kevin
00:24:08
and the team in Vegas I felt like boxing
00:24:12
for me at that time was getting stale
00:24:13
you know I did have to fight with Junior
00:24:15
fire in New Zealand I felt like when I
00:24:17
went to the ring you know even though I
00:24:19
trained so hard with strength and
00:24:21
conditioning running boxing I did
00:24:23
everything right slept well hey clean I
00:24:26
still felt tired after the first or
00:24:28
second round and I put that down to just
00:24:30
over training and not having I think
00:24:33
just doing too much over the years I I
00:24:34
did more and more training and I wasn't
00:24:37
resting enough and that's no one else's
00:24:39
fault but mine because I thought the
00:24:40
more is better of course yeah it makes
00:24:43
sense but then I suppose it gets to the
00:24:44
point where there's diminishing returns
00:24:46
hey yeah and there's a there's a quote I
00:24:48
think Einstein said this he said the the
00:24:50
definition of uh insanity is doing the
00:24:52
same thing over and over again and
00:24:54
expecting a different result yes that's
00:24:56
exactly it and so I was doing the same
00:24:57
thing imagine doing some the same thing
00:24:59
for eight years of course in the
00:25:01
beginning was great but it became uh
00:25:04
just the same same it became stale and
00:25:06
it became I just it wasn't excited
00:25:08
anymore I didn't have I sort of felt
00:25:10
like I was losing a passion for boxing
00:25:11
just because ah damn I have to go to
00:25:13
Vegas again I have to you know I have to
00:25:15
be in Camp again I have to just have to
00:25:16
do that but I think the change just uh
00:25:20
revived me as a fighter gave me
00:25:22
excitement and gave me this new new
00:25:24
environment new team new structure new
00:25:26
program new trainer and I'm learning new
00:25:30
things
00:25:31
so yeah now you're with this guy called
00:25:32
Andy Lee
00:25:34
um who has the same name as um Andy from
00:25:36
Hamish nandy but it's not the same
00:25:37
person uh so Andy Andy Lee was Andy was
00:25:40
a world champion
00:25:42
middleweight world champion right right
00:25:43
Irish Irish Andy Lee right so what makes
00:25:46
him what makes him so damn good and why
00:25:49
did you team up with him so after before
00:25:51
I broke up with Kevin I was uh sort of
00:25:54
sitting in my house and thinking who
00:25:56
should I talk to to you know about a
00:25:58
trainer okay I'll call Tyson hey it's
00:26:01
ice can I call you and then uh he goes
00:26:03
yep call me so I called him video called
00:26:04
Hey sir I'll get leaving looking at
00:26:06
leaving Kevin um and I was looking at
00:26:08
training with this trainer what do you
00:26:10
think about him don't train of him
00:26:12
Joseph uh there's three trainers that I
00:26:14
recommend you you know who have been the
00:26:16
best for me in this world the first one
00:26:17
is Emmanuel Stewart that I've trained
00:26:19
with the second one in Sugar Hill and
00:26:21
the third one is Andy Lee
00:26:23
I reckon I can get you an angularly
00:26:24
connected together and you guys can work
00:26:25
together I reckon you guys are all jail
00:26:27
and and you know he can make a big
00:26:29
difference in your career I said what's
00:26:31
so good about Andy he said Andy is not
00:26:33
just a pad holder Andy is a teacher and
00:26:36
he will teach you boxing not just hold
00:26:38
the pads for you and tell you to do this
00:26:39
and that in combinations but he'll teach
00:26:41
you boxing
00:26:42
what does that mean exactly can you can
00:26:44
you elaborate on that a bit more there's
00:26:46
some some trainers who just hold the
00:26:48
pads and so anyone can hold pads and
00:26:50
anyone can be a fitness trainer but when
00:26:52
you break it all down there's only
00:26:54
certain trainers or people that can be
00:26:56
teachers in in boxing and who can
00:26:58
actually tell you to do this and tell
00:27:00
you to do that slow things down
00:27:02
um watch you when you're doing something
00:27:03
and correct it and but not everyone can
00:27:06
correct it because not everyone knows
00:27:08
what the right way of punching is or
00:27:10
what the right way of doing this is or
00:27:12
that so how did you entice and fury
00:27:14
become friends I remember seeing like
00:27:16
some clip on you online maybe on
00:27:17
Instagram after one of your fights and
00:27:19
Tyson was there and he had his shirt off
00:27:21
and this is when he was um this is when
00:27:23
he was on into his cocaine and partying
00:27:25
and he was massively it was like
00:27:27
ballooned he'd retired at that point
00:27:30
um when was that can you remember
00:27:32
2017. it was as soon as I that was the
00:27:36
first time I met Tyson after what fight
00:27:38
was when I thought his cousin Huey Fury
00:27:40
right so I thought his cousin we're at
00:27:42
the press conference
00:27:43
and that was the first time I ever met
00:27:44
him but we used to keep in touch on
00:27:45
social media so I met him when we spoke
00:27:48
at the press conference and then we got
00:27:49
up and gave each other a big hug because
00:27:51
he was always supporting me and watching
00:27:53
what I was doing on this side of the
00:27:54
world fighting top fighters winning and
00:27:56
doing well and I was always supporting
00:27:58
him and we're keeping in touch on social
00:27:59
media and that was the first time I met
00:28:00
him then after I beat his cousin he came
00:28:03
to my room and we had a great time
00:28:05
we had a great great great time do you
00:28:08
want to liberate
00:28:10
we partied we had a great time in terms
00:28:13
of partying uh we went to my room and
00:28:16
then after that we went to some ice bar
00:28:18
we all shirtless and you know obviously
00:28:21
I woke up the next year with a cold but
00:28:22
the night before I just we we had a
00:28:25
great time we just enjoyed and partied
00:28:28
The Night Away
00:28:29
see the amazing thing and this is this I
00:28:33
suppose this is just part of the
00:28:34
Glorious colorful Mosaic that is Tyson
00:28:36
Fury's life like it would have been um
00:28:39
easy for him to to get further and
00:28:41
further into addiction and spiral down
00:28:43
but somehow he managed to pull himself
00:28:44
out of that and become like one of the
00:28:46
greatest athletes the world's ever seen
00:28:47
yeah the Amazing Story is what he's done
00:28:50
before his breakdown you know becoming
00:28:54
world champion because that was his goal
00:28:55
because he he bit Vladimir Klitschko
00:28:58
right he beat Vladimir which opened up
00:29:00
the whole heavyweight division yeah then
00:29:02
he went on his downfall in his drugs and
00:29:04
alcohol and mental health and had all
00:29:07
these issues and the comeback is the
00:29:09
biggest and the baddest story of them
00:29:11
all because um you have all these
00:29:14
heavyweights training every day putting
00:29:18
the work in and they're boxing and
00:29:20
fighting consistently and still winning
00:29:22
and you have Deontay Wilder who never
00:29:23
had a break who never
00:29:25
I don't even know if he does drugs or
00:29:27
drinks or whatever but and then you've
00:29:29
got Tyson Fury who did all of this
00:29:31
and came back and beat everyone
00:29:33
like that is one of the stories that I
00:29:36
don't think there's another story like
00:29:37
it that's incredible and he's he's so
00:29:39
exciting to watch as well I I don't know
00:29:40
anything about boxing but I know that
00:29:42
he's an exciting guy to watch like
00:29:43
outside the ring and in the ring like
00:29:45
yes do you know what's exciting about
00:29:47
him to watch what's the lead into the
00:29:49
fights the way he talks personality and
00:29:52
then it's like he takes that into the
00:29:53
Ring of him you know like imagine
00:29:55
fighting someone in the ring and his
00:29:58
hands are behind his back
00:30:00
and his moving his head side to side and
00:30:02
he's teasing you talking to you like
00:30:04
that'll be the most dying I don't know
00:30:05
Annoying fighter to fight and I think in
00:30:09
in terms of people talking before the
00:30:11
fight like the press conference away and
00:30:12
I don't think people want to bent over
00:30:13
them because he is next level yeah
00:30:16
and then there's afterwards when he
00:30:17
breaks into song He's just so ex how
00:30:21
would you go against him and like you've
00:30:22
sparred with him quite a bit so you know
00:30:24
I've done body sparring but we've never
00:30:26
spied each other like hitting each other
00:30:28
in the face or we've never done full
00:30:30
contact anybody's wearing head kick your
00:30:32
ass right wouldn't he no no I back
00:30:34
myself the fight that he just had of uh
00:30:37
dealing in white I was a standby fighter
00:30:39
which meant if white didn't show up to
00:30:41
fight I was on standby to fight him yeah
00:30:43
I was gonna I was gonna ask you about
00:30:44
that because um
00:30:46
I thought he said at some point maybe a
00:30:48
few years ago that he would he would
00:30:50
never find you said they would never
00:30:51
fight each other yeah yeah
00:30:53
but so that when when you were like the
00:30:56
standby the the understanding whatever
00:30:58
you want to call it was that like hey
00:31:00
hey Joseph like if this happens you get
00:31:02
in the ring it'll be a massive payday
00:31:03
was it that yeah I think he goes if you
00:31:05
get if white doesn't show up and you're
00:31:06
the standby fighter and you fight me you
00:31:09
get a chance to beat me for the world
00:31:11
title and you get paid if you don't
00:31:13
fight me you still get paid a little bit
00:31:14
of money just stay ready so I got paid
00:31:16
either way yeah
00:31:18
and he was it was just a way of him
00:31:20
looking after me I was I was with him in
00:31:22
Camp for 15 weeks for this last fight
00:31:23
and we ate in the morning we trained and
00:31:26
we ate again and we rested and we ate
00:31:28
again and we trained like it was a 15
00:31:30
week of hard training clean eating
00:31:33
and it was a great it was just a great
00:31:36
lead into the fight yeah I suppose with
00:31:38
like that intimate information about how
00:31:40
he works it would definitely increase
00:31:42
your chances of having a good crack
00:31:43
again listen I backed myself right if I
00:31:46
had to fight them if I was if white
00:31:48
didn't show up or not to fight him you
00:31:49
know I was I was I was in a gym training
00:31:51
with him but I was obviously watching
00:31:52
what he was doing just examining and
00:31:54
seeing what you know I knew exactly what
00:31:57
they were working on I knew exactly what
00:31:59
was happening Camp so I would have had a
00:32:01
good chance
00:32:02
it seems like he can take a massive
00:32:05
Punch Yeah you can take well listen he
00:32:07
got off the ground he's like he rose
00:32:08
from the dead yeah it was crazy he can
00:32:11
take a punch he can give a big punch too
00:32:13
and we could see that because he he
00:32:14
knocked out you know dillian white with
00:32:16
one punch knockout power
00:32:18
what is what does he drive
00:32:20
uh he drives a percent
00:32:22
like uh was it a Volkswagen or ah get
00:32:25
out like a state yeah like a hatchback
00:32:27
yeah yeah yeah
00:32:29
and I dropped listen my car my car the
00:32:32
tire was flat the other day and then I
00:32:34
was like hey it's actually gonna borrow
00:32:35
your gonna borrow a car or and he goes
00:32:38
yeah take the Ferrari okay no no no give
00:32:41
me the percent I like the percent okay
00:32:43
so drives a drives the VW so he's got a
00:32:46
Ferrari what else has he got a
00:32:48
Rolls-Royce he's got a G-Wagon he's got
00:32:52
he's got a few cars yeah and has he
00:32:55
actually retired do you think I think
00:32:56
he's retired yeah all right listen he I
00:32:59
don't know I think he's retired I'll
00:33:00
just take his word for it but you know
00:33:03
if someone offers him
00:33:05
80 million dollars to come back or I
00:33:07
don't know it won't make a difference
00:33:08
because he's already a wealthy man but
00:33:11
I don't know what I don't know what'll
00:33:12
make him come back but he's never
00:33:14
thought um Anthony Joshua has he he's
00:33:16
never fought him no no but he'll own him
00:33:19
yeah will he yeah big time what makes
00:33:21
you say that because if I was you you
00:33:23
just said to me before that um you'd
00:33:25
beat Tyson Fury in a fight so far Josh
00:33:27
will beat me but
00:33:29
if I was sitting here with Anthony
00:33:31
Joshua he'd say the same thing wouldn't
00:33:32
he'd say I'd own Tyson Fury yeah yeah
00:33:35
it's obviously people think I might be
00:33:37
biased because I'm very close to him and
00:33:39
we're like brothers
00:33:40
but I know I I fully agree I think he
00:33:42
would have I I thought Joshua and you
00:33:46
know he's he's a very good fighter and
00:33:48
he was a great champion
00:33:50
um and hopefully he can come back and
00:33:51
beat you sick we'll see what he does but
00:33:53
I've trained along Tyson and I've seen
00:33:55
the way the difference I haven't trained
00:33:58
um you know with Anthony Joshua but I've
00:33:59
trained with Tyson I've seen the
00:34:00
difference mentally and physically and
00:34:02
how they and how he trains and I was
00:34:04
just like you know it's lifted my game
00:34:06
being there if it wasn't for moving to
00:34:09
England and training of Andy Lee and
00:34:11
Tyson my career would be done by now I
00:34:13
think does that say because after the
00:34:15
junior firefight if I listen if I
00:34:17
continue doing what I was doing or was
00:34:18
going downhill yeah yeah that was a
00:34:21
close fight wasn't it was it closer than
00:34:22
what it shouldn't have been close yeah I
00:34:24
should have been in great shape and I
00:34:25
should have been in I should have been
00:34:26
in better shape and I I should have been
00:34:28
able to go from round one to round 12
00:34:30
and pick up the pace but I went from
00:34:33
round one to round 12 and the pace went
00:34:35
down down down down yeah so if you had
00:34:37
to put a percentage on it how much do
00:34:38
you think you've improved since um the
00:34:40
junior firefight since you've been
00:34:41
working with Andy Lee uh if you I think
00:34:43
if you compare the first chisora fight
00:34:45
to the second chisora fight it's a
00:34:48
massive difference in a massive
00:34:49
Improvement yeah
00:34:50
at least talk about some of the other
00:34:52
characters on the side of this campaign
00:34:53
with so there's Tyson Fury
00:34:54
um also Tommy Fury I'm a love Island fan
00:34:57
from way back so yeah yeah I love that
00:34:59
series that was my favorite series here
00:35:01
Tommy and Molly May yeah do you know
00:35:03
Molly mate yeah I know Molly Maid yeah
00:35:05
yeah she was in uh she was in Camp uh on
00:35:08
fight week and she came to the fight
00:35:09
obviously come to support Tommy but
00:35:12
Tommy Tommy is a good talent
00:35:14
I think um now that he's you know
00:35:16
obviously training with Tyson and
00:35:18
putting him to work and giving you
00:35:19
everything he has effort every day
00:35:21
I think he can be a force so he's he's
00:35:24
like a half a half brother to talk Jesus
00:35:27
it's a lot of pressure having that name
00:35:29
isn't it well listen having the fury
00:35:30
names of course if you you know you want
00:35:33
to be like your brother yeah yeah um but
00:35:35
he's he's uh you know he's a celebrity
00:35:37
in his own white wolf that love Island
00:35:38
massive stuff that's a massive star and
00:35:40
he's uh good looking too and yeah
00:35:43
very handsome and he's uh listen he's
00:35:45
he's always the one with the shirt off
00:35:46
because he's obviously he's got big
00:35:48
muscles and he's like how do I look at
00:35:49
Joe I was like yeah look good you look
00:35:51
all right you look right mate yeah
00:35:53
that's um you've always yeah so he's
00:35:56
he's ripped to shreds so is um Anthony
00:35:58
Joshua and then there's like you've
00:36:01
always sort of had like little love
00:36:02
handles or a bit of a better puffy fan
00:36:05
the same as Tyson Fury like he's yeah
00:36:07
how so how can you train that hard and
00:36:09
still be carrying a bit of blubber I'm
00:36:12
not sure is it is
00:36:14
it the body different type of body types
00:36:18
um that's the thing about Fury yeah it's
00:36:19
like this is I'll tell you this about
00:36:21
Tyson right his body doesn't look the
00:36:23
best but he is strong and he is the
00:36:26
fittest person I ever trained if you've
00:36:27
talked to Sunny Sunny bill because he
00:36:30
was in Camp with us if you talked to
00:36:31
David naika they will tell you that he
00:36:33
is one of the first people that we've
00:36:34
ever trained with oh you know that's
00:36:37
right yeah Sonny boom was over there for
00:36:38
a while and then he um he went back to
00:36:40
Australia and demolished his opponent
00:36:41
how do you think um do you know much
00:36:43
about about Jake Paul
00:36:46
ah no only from what I've seen right
00:36:48
what I've seen on social media with the
00:36:50
pads and with the fight that he had was
00:36:51
right how many fights he's had three or
00:36:53
four fights something like that but I
00:36:55
said how do you think um like from what
00:36:57
you've seen and you obviously you don't
00:36:58
know much about it your guess is as good
00:37:00
as anyone's um would Sonny will waste
00:37:02
them why back's only Bill to beat him
00:37:03
yeah yeah Sunny has
00:37:05
the sacrifice that he made
00:37:08
to fly over to England
00:37:10
at the time Tyson and I weren't doing
00:37:11
boxing we're only doing weights so Tony
00:37:14
was there for four days and he was
00:37:15
getting ready to fly home again because
00:37:16
we weren't doing boxing and then when
00:37:17
Tyson heard of the tiger said all right
00:37:19
you're coming to the gym the next day
00:37:20
and I'll show you how to box yeah and
00:37:22
then he showed him out of box wow
00:37:26
what was the biggest learning and it was
00:37:28
the biggest
00:37:29
um test and it was the biggest challenge
00:37:31
he flew from Australia to you know to
00:37:34
England and not knowing what to expect
00:37:36
and then Tyson put him through his paces
00:37:38
and then he flew to Ireland and spent
00:37:40
four or five weeks of Andy Lee then he
00:37:41
flew back and you know had a great fight
00:37:44
is he a good boxer he's getting buried
00:37:46
better and better yeah because he didn't
00:37:48
give a time back in the day he was
00:37:50
giving it half his time he was giving
00:37:51
rugby and and League most of his time he
00:37:54
wasn't okay okay fighter but now he's
00:37:56
giving us full time I think he's going
00:37:57
to do a lot better yeah way better is he
00:38:00
is he a good guy what would what would
00:38:02
be something that you could tell me
00:38:03
about Sonny Bill that no one would know
00:38:04
it would surprise us something about
00:38:05
Sunny
00:38:07
um
00:38:08
listen I'm not sure I don't even know if
00:38:10
there's anything I could say that would
00:38:11
be surprising but he's very
00:38:14
he's very much a family man and he's
00:38:17
very dedicated to his religion he's he
00:38:19
shows that online anyway he's Muslim
00:38:21
hardcore isn't it Muslim hardcore and
00:38:23
he's very he's a very dedicated athlete
00:38:25
and everything he does
00:38:28
like eating
00:38:30
resting recovery stretching like I
00:38:33
walked down to his room the other you
00:38:34
know the other day when we were in
00:38:35
England say hey what are you up to bro
00:38:37
and he's under he's rolling out rolling
00:38:39
out and just any spare moment he has he
00:38:42
does something that benefits him in
00:38:44
terms of of being in physical shape
00:38:46
right he's growing up to be um I
00:38:48
remember in his early days he was so
00:38:50
polarizing remember everyone hated him
00:38:52
yeah money Bill Williams and he was he
00:38:54
was playing rugby he was playing league
00:38:55
and moving from this moving from there
00:38:57
and trying this trying that I feel like
00:39:00
he's really sort of um you're grown as a
00:39:02
person over like the last 10 years five
00:39:03
years yeah you're definitely right he's
00:39:05
grown as a person but the one thing I
00:39:07
really do admire about him is how close
00:39:10
he is of his family yeah you know and
00:39:12
the love he has for his wife and kids
00:39:14
yeah now let's talk about that because
00:39:17
um so I'm sitting in your garage with
00:39:18
you and uh you shut the door and your
00:39:20
family's um on the other side of the
00:39:22
door you um you've made a lot of
00:39:25
sacrifices like you've spent a lot of
00:39:27
time away from your family over the
00:39:28
years hey so you've got three kids three
00:39:29
daughters three because how many how
00:39:31
many of the births were you at none you
00:39:33
missed all of them you missed all and my
00:39:35
wife's pregnant right now oh you got
00:39:37
number four on me number four she's due
00:39:39
any day now maybe I think in a week's
00:39:40
time and I might not be here
00:39:43
I might be gone tomorrow she must be so
00:39:45
understanding she is a beast like she's
00:39:48
very understanding and we're fortunate
00:39:51
like I got a very supportive family
00:39:52
she's got a very supportive family and
00:39:54
when I'm not here they all come and they
00:39:56
step everyone steps up and helps out
00:39:58
yeah and listen that's a blessing to
00:40:00
have you know a great family well she's
00:40:02
the she's the best well that's the best
00:40:03
so there are all three are girls all
00:40:06
three girls Elizabeth Shiloh and
00:40:07
Michaela uh
00:40:09
at the moment they're two three and five
00:40:11
but soon they're going to be three four
00:40:13
five
00:40:14
oh my God ain't you gonna have a baby
00:40:16
there's a baby as well listen the Parker
00:40:19
household is a busy household do you
00:40:21
feel I mean you know you've got to focus
00:40:23
and do your job but do you feel guilty
00:40:25
when you're away of course I do yeah my
00:40:27
if I tell my daughter if I tell my
00:40:29
oldest daughter Elizabeth that I'm
00:40:31
leaving next week she's gonna start
00:40:33
crying every day from now until the day
00:40:35
I leave
00:40:36
and it's the saddest thing so you just
00:40:38
leave without saying goodbye
00:40:40
I tell her we tell her closer to the
00:40:42
time yeah it's the saddest thing seeing
00:40:44
your I don't know just seeing it's
00:40:45
heartbreaking so obviously and just
00:40:48
doesn't doesn't want to do anything
00:40:49
because you're just thinking about the
00:40:50
dreading the day you want to leave
00:40:51
there's no way I mean I'm sure you've
00:40:54
got the financial means there's no way
00:40:55
you can just travel with the family and
00:40:56
homeschool them we did we we tried it I
00:40:58
went to the just horrify in October last
00:41:00
year I threw the family up in December
00:41:02
then we couldn't get back into New
00:41:04
Zealand because everyone was stuck yeah
00:41:06
so we spent four months together
00:41:07
overseas they flew back into the end of
00:41:10
March and I flew back not long ago so we
00:41:12
do we do travel but she can't travel at
00:41:14
the moment because of course being
00:41:16
pregnant of course but if she wasn't
00:41:17
pregnant yeah away again as a family
00:41:20
okay so um we we used to joke with you
00:41:24
on the radio all the time when you came
00:41:25
in for interviews about how you'd never
00:41:26
change the napping has that situation
00:41:28
changed big time all right listen I've
00:41:31
I've I've I've grown I've grown as a
00:41:33
father and as a man I do get down and
00:41:36
dirty
00:41:37
they said I've changed I think for my
00:41:40
first thought I changed one second
00:41:41
daughter I changed two and the third one
00:41:43
I was changed multiple multiple three so
00:41:46
for the fourth one You're Gonna Change
00:41:47
four four
00:41:50
um I guess so so tell me about your
00:41:51
partner when did you guys meet you were
00:41:54
playing high school sweetheart yeah I've
00:41:55
known Laney since I was 13 years old and
00:41:58
then we started dating around 15 16
00:42:00
years old and we've been together ever
00:42:02
since so 13 that's that's about the same
00:42:04
time as you started boxing so yeah did
00:42:06
you did you crush on each other then
00:42:07
were you just friends I think she I was
00:42:10
crushing on Earth I was like what yeah I
00:42:12
was at school oh damn look at that chick
00:42:14
hey how's it going
00:42:16
is that your cool guy voice
00:42:20
yeah you do it yeah how are you doing so
00:42:23
I started boxing at around that age and
00:42:25
met her and then I found out that her
00:42:27
dad really loved boxing as well so and
00:42:29
then when we got together he's always
00:42:30
been very supportive and of my career
00:42:33
and you know traveling around and always
00:42:34
helped me financially as well when I was
00:42:36
traveling and to amateur tournaments
00:42:38
around the world yeah yeah so actually
00:42:40
so you're mid at 13 started going out at
00:42:43
15 yeah
00:42:45
you had a break or you've been together
00:42:48
ever since been together ever since
00:42:50
when did you first say I love you like
00:42:51
at the age of 15. 13.
00:42:57
[Laughter]
00:43:01
I said hey nice to meet you what's your
00:43:03
name I said I love you
00:43:07
the only woman you've yeah
00:43:13
so when did you get married we got
00:43:15
married recently but you don't rush into
00:43:17
these things yeah no we don't rush I
00:43:19
just want to make sure she was the one
00:43:20
we got married no longer and listen it
00:43:22
was the best best day we're really like
00:43:24
boom bro have you been to that place
00:43:26
boom broke down in uh Carey Bay no no oh
00:43:29
very beautiful nice place it was nice
00:43:31
and private and everyone did had a great
00:43:33
time we told everyone it was the end of
00:43:35
your function so dress up and then when
00:43:37
it all turned up it was a wedding
00:43:38
surprise like winning small wedding ah
00:43:41
70 people 70. oh yeah standard is she
00:43:43
someone as well she's someone yeah I
00:43:46
said we have big families my mom's one
00:43:48
of 27 or something something like that
00:43:49
so you so you're someone but you're born
00:43:51
in New Zealand I'm born in New Zealand
00:43:53
yeah that's my parents are born in
00:43:54
summer God Summer's a great place I love
00:43:56
that country so much you've been yeah a
00:43:58
couple of times I love it there yeah
00:44:00
it's fantastic so can you swim of course
00:44:02
right right
00:44:04
I'm gonna flip as his feet
00:44:06
my summer ones can you go to something
00:44:09
really yeah it's a thing
00:44:12
I don't know that no a friend of mine um
00:44:14
who works in radio next Sunday it was at
00:44:16
my FM for a while and he's at the edge
00:44:17
now he was saying at least he took a lot
00:44:20
of [ __ ] so maybe he was pulling my leg
00:44:21
but he said um in Samoa it's a Prestige
00:44:25
thing the further Inland you are or the
00:44:27
further up you are the more prestigious
00:44:30
it is so you know how in New Zealand you
00:44:31
want to be as close to water as well
00:44:33
yeah yeah and someone's the opposite so
00:44:34
people just can't swim over there I I
00:44:37
don't know wow yeah
00:44:47
yeah I think that's news for me thanks
00:44:51
Nixon I've learned something new today
00:44:53
yeah she's has it been hard over the
00:44:56
years being married like as you've got
00:44:58
more and more more and more famous I
00:45:00
mean like they must you're you're out of
00:45:02
the country like you're this big star
00:45:03
there must be massive Temptations I saw
00:45:05
a photo on I think Daily Mail last year
00:45:07
of Tyson after one of his fights now
00:45:08
Tyson's married to Paris Paris yeah yeah
00:45:11
there's a photo of um Tyson at some
00:45:13
hotel and he's just like surrounded by a
00:45:15
boat yeah like well at the at the beach
00:45:18
pool yeah some Resort and some Tommy's
00:45:20
there as well yeah I saw that too yeah
00:45:23
is it like that for you no woman just
00:45:25
cracking on to it you don't I don't put
00:45:28
myself in the um in that environment
00:45:29
myself in that environment when I'm they
00:45:31
say I'm overseas training in England
00:45:34
I got the apartment that I'm staying in
00:45:36
and all I do is apartment gym go to the
00:45:39
shops and do my shopping and that's it
00:45:41
it's like uh it's the same routine every
00:45:43
day yeah
00:45:45
and you don't put yourself out there to
00:45:46
be tempted or to be in an environment
00:45:48
where a woman will you know and when I'm
00:45:51
in England not many people know me
00:45:52
anyways is that right
00:45:54
not well where I live yeah right or
00:45:57
maybe because that's the environment
00:45:58
you're living and they see you all the
00:45:59
time they don't care as much or
00:46:01
something like that maybe yeah what's an
00:46:02
average day like look like so so you're
00:46:04
at home at the moment so you're not
00:46:05
training for any particular fight first
00:46:07
of all that's got to be the weirdest
00:46:09
thing training and staying fit when you
00:46:11
don't know who your next opponent's
00:46:12
going to be it'd be like you training
00:46:14
for an event but you're not sure if it's
00:46:15
gonna be a 5K run 10k run half marathon
00:46:17
Marathon whatever yeah it's gonna be the
00:46:19
weirdest thing
00:46:20
not anymore back then after a fight I
00:46:25
would do no training and I would have a
00:46:27
great time and do nothing and then when
00:46:28
I started Camp again I've already gained
00:46:30
15 kgs and I have to lose it again and
00:46:33
I'm spending all my time in Camp losing
00:46:34
weight instead of working on on the
00:46:37
skills and techniques and and Game Plan
00:46:39
that you need for the next fight so I've
00:46:42
promised myself that this is a lifestyle
00:46:43
even if I don't have a fight locked in I
00:46:45
train every day yeah and my wife and
00:46:47
kids give me time to train every day
00:46:49
sometimes twice a day and they're just
00:46:51
going to form my mental health as well
00:46:52
yeah
00:46:53
yeah I was going to ask you about that
00:46:54
because I'm your Tyson Fury um he's been
00:46:56
very very open about his mental health
00:46:58
and his struggles with depression over
00:47:00
the years he was even like suicidal at
00:47:01
one point
00:47:02
um how's your mental health been you've
00:47:04
been good over the years my Midtown has
00:47:05
been good yeah yeah it's uh you know I
00:47:08
said I I've been through similar things
00:47:10
that what Titus has been through have
00:47:12
you in what way oh just uh you know I
00:47:15
was doing boxing but I was you know down
00:47:17
I wasn't happy you know I was partying
00:47:21
drinking with my friends and that and
00:47:23
not focusing and even though I was
00:47:25
training and fighting my head wasn't
00:47:27
right and I wasn't in the right place
00:47:28
and I wasn't you know only outside it
00:47:31
looked like everything was fine but on
00:47:32
the inside it was it wasn't when was
00:47:34
that's what stage of your life when I
00:47:36
won the world title it was the same as
00:47:38
him he won a real title went downhill I
00:47:39
won the world title went down as well
00:47:41
and I don't know I don't know how or why
00:47:43
but it just happened do you think part
00:47:45
of it is um I'm just guessing here but
00:47:47
part of this like you've got this
00:47:48
massive goal massive goal and then you
00:47:50
reach it and then it's like ah what now
00:47:51
I I think that's it yeah so when I
00:47:54
reached it I was like everyone thought
00:47:55
it was the best feeling in the world and
00:47:57
listen it did feel good to be a world
00:47:58
champion and make everyone happy but
00:48:00
what do you mean make everyone happy I
00:48:02
have people back home and here in New
00:48:04
Zealand people like my my parents
00:48:06
because it was my dad right it was a
00:48:07
goal for my dad to be a world champion
00:48:09
so it was a goal together it was a goal
00:48:11
for Kevin to to have a world champion
00:48:13
and so I've made all these people happy
00:48:15
but was it I wasn't I don't know I
00:48:17
wasn't truly happy
00:48:19
not sure why do you feel like it was
00:48:22
more
00:48:23
more other people's goal than your goal
00:48:25
I think yeah I think it was more other
00:48:28
people's goals because when I reached it
00:48:31
I wasn't like it wasn't like anything
00:48:33
new I didn't feel any different and then
00:48:36
just another fight and then I achieved
00:48:37
it and then like what's next yeah then
00:48:40
you know went downhill
00:48:42
how did you like it around that and you
00:48:45
know not get to the depths that Tyson
00:48:46
Fury went to yeah I didn't go as far as
00:48:48
him yeah and go deck like way down but
00:48:50
the the people around me
00:48:53
it's uh I I think it's critical having
00:48:55
the right people around you whether it's
00:48:57
family whether it's a team whether it's
00:48:59
a I don't know with cousins whoever it
00:49:01
is they're still to support you you've
00:49:03
got to have right people around YouTube
00:49:04
when you're doing something wrong when
00:49:06
you're going downhill when things aren't
00:49:07
going right they can pull you back and
00:49:09
help you and encourage you and motivate
00:49:11
you and push you yeah to come back and
00:49:13
be better have you got any um like sort
00:49:16
of strategies in place yourself like do
00:49:18
you you know if you if you're getting
00:49:19
into a bit of a bit of a slump
00:49:21
just uh if it like nothing has happened
00:49:25
as of lately I've thought oh I'm going
00:49:27
the wrong way or I'm going off track but
00:49:29
if I do I just come back and you know
00:49:32
being here at home spending time with
00:49:33
the kids and family and just remembering
00:49:35
and realizing what's important oh that's
00:49:37
cool oh man I could talk to you for
00:49:39
hours we haven't even talked about the
00:49:40
AJ fight yet so um so so yeah Anthony
00:49:43
Joshua that fight comes about I was in
00:49:46
um Tappo at the time I was watching it
00:49:48
on my iPad and it just it brought back
00:49:50
how old were you in um the tour man Fort
00:49:53
Linux Lewis uh eight years old do you
00:49:55
remember that far I remember the fight
00:49:57
because your fight with Anthony Joshua
00:49:59
it felt like it had similarities to me
00:50:01
it's like you're this big header
00:50:03
everyone talks about your speed and your
00:50:05
power and then it's like you just
00:50:06
couldn't penetrate the guy no same sort
00:50:08
of thing so so um let's talk about that
00:50:10
fight first of all how much money did
00:50:12
you make from that fight can you talk
00:50:13
about that or not really oh well what
00:50:15
did I make was it a set rate or was it a
00:50:17
pay-per-view thing it was a like a 33
00:50:19
Revenue share to our team in 67 to their
00:50:22
team yeah something like that right I
00:50:24
made whatever I made I had to pay 45 tax
00:50:27
45 that's the tax rate in the UK isn't
00:50:31
it is it yeah
00:50:33
that's outrageous the other thing I'm
00:50:35
making now is 45 tax
00:50:38
in the UK yeah I'm a tax resident in the
00:50:40
UK
00:50:44
it's the misleading thing because you
00:50:46
hear reports about how much money you
00:50:47
get made has pretty much gone yeah 45
00:50:49
gone and then I'm guessing there's um
00:50:51
there's the agent trainer fees class
00:50:53
manager and then there's the training
00:50:55
listen the camp is expensive if you
00:50:58
think about it you fly up to wherever
00:50:59
you're training you have an apartment or
00:51:01
a house that you're staying at you bring
00:51:02
on a nutritionist a chef then you bring
00:51:05
in your trainer he gets 10 then you
00:51:08
bring inspiring Partners they get 1500
00:51:10
pounds a week then you pay for their
00:51:13
food and their cost and accommodation
00:51:14
and you're paying for all of this and
00:51:16
all that and then at the end it adds up
00:51:18
yeah it's expensive so say say you earn
00:51:22
a million dollars for a fight how much
00:51:23
of that million would you get to keep
00:51:25
like 300 000 400 000. as I say if you're
00:51:28
in a million do 10 goes to the trainer
00:51:30
right 20 or 20 or 25 goes to the manager
00:51:34
and then you pay 45 tax but your costs
00:51:37
come off the top or your training fees
00:51:38
and all your travel and all everything
00:51:40
else comes off the top and then you get
00:51:42
whatever's left so you may make like 20
00:51:43
25 say something like that yeah probably
00:51:46
[ __ ] so just oh it gets shipped right
00:51:49
down no wonder you've got a key or in
00:51:51
your driver listen I I love the Ikea
00:51:57
we'll give the guy Andrew Sims Andrew
00:51:59
Sims Matthew Wales yeah get up and do
00:52:03
you have any regrets about that fight
00:52:05
now I'd like your thoughts do you yeah
00:52:06
of course when I think about it I was uh
00:52:09
you know I went into camp at 125 kgs
00:52:13
and then I went all the way down to 107.
00:52:16
so I was a fat prick and I went into
00:52:19
camp and I focused on losing weight what
00:52:21
and getting fit and trying to get the
00:52:24
combinations and everything together and
00:52:25
doing the sparring of this and by the
00:52:27
end of it I was uh I was in great shape
00:52:30
but imagine if I went into camp in
00:52:32
better shape
00:52:33
I'll be in tremendous shape yeah and but
00:52:36
the game plan was to to box and move
00:52:38
because he was a big puncher and to
00:52:39
counter but you know I was too defensive
00:52:42
and I was too I didn't put the pressure
00:52:45
on and I was too um just waiting too
00:52:48
much waiting so if I could turn back
00:52:49
time I would put the pressure on right
00:52:51
from the beginning because when I did
00:52:52
put the pressure on he always went back
00:52:53
and didn't know what to do and I should
00:52:55
have picked up on that in the fight
00:52:57
that's what
00:52:58
that's the difference between you know
00:53:00
good Fighters and great Fighters being
00:53:01
able to adjust and adapt in the fight
00:53:03
how much do you think about it now or
00:53:05
are you quite good at like putting a
00:53:07
Line in the Sand and just moving on I
00:53:09
thought about it after the fight I
00:53:11
thought about it I thought about it that
00:53:13
year 2018 and now
00:53:15
I'm done thinking about it would you
00:53:16
like to fight him again yeah bring him
00:53:18
on yeah who's the hardest hardest punch
00:53:20
that you've ever received because you
00:53:21
you spared with um Vladimir for a few
00:53:24
weeks didn't you I Sparkle let's go and
00:53:25
one thing about Klitschko is that he's
00:53:27
he he's uh one he's one of the craziest
00:53:29
trainers too he he brought in
00:53:33
um you know I don't know how many
00:53:34
inspiring partners and he sparred 12
00:53:36
rounds on Monday Tuesday Thursday and
00:53:37
Friday that's 48 rounds in one week
00:53:39
that's way too much there's way too many
00:53:43
rounds over training well that's what I
00:53:45
I think but he's done there for a long
00:53:47
time and I did spy with him and he's a
00:53:49
big puncher but the heaviest punch I I
00:53:51
you know I got hit by was Andy Ruiz and
00:53:54
I I think that's right yeah I think the
00:53:57
reason why it's because he punches fast
00:53:59
and hard the speed brings more power and
00:54:02
it was more like a like a shock in a
00:54:04
sting rather than just a heavy punch
00:54:07
what about Joshua does he hit that he
00:54:09
wasn't able to catch me clear yeah he
00:54:11
did catch me once and I thought but I
00:54:13
was in the clean punch but I think
00:54:15
obviously if he hits me clean you know
00:54:17
he's knocked out how many people in his
00:54:19
career nearly everyone yeah so you're 30
00:54:21
years old now I'm pretty sure maybe I've
00:54:24
got this wrong but I'm pretty sure you
00:54:26
told me early in your career that you
00:54:27
hoped Yeah by around 30 yeah
00:54:31
plus four
00:54:34
is that the thing like it I mean you get
00:54:37
to the point where your value goes up
00:54:39
you're earning good money it's got to be
00:54:41
hard to to turn away from it I suppose
00:54:45
there's still more to achieve for you
00:54:47
well for me it's more like I said I went
00:54:50
through that phase where I I was wanting
00:54:52
to be a real Champion I did it and then
00:54:54
I felt like I wasn't as happy as
00:54:56
everyone else was yeah because we
00:54:58
touched on it I must have been doing it
00:55:00
for other people well I feel like now
00:55:02
I'm doing it for myself and now that
00:55:03
I've been revived as a fighter I feel
00:55:05
like I have way more to give and I'm
00:55:07
still learning like I'm learning way
00:55:09
more now with this new team so I just
00:55:11
want to give it a good go for the next I
00:55:13
don't know three four years and see what
00:55:15
I can do but it's not about the money
00:55:16
like I've done okay and I'm I'm happy
00:55:18
and I'm content but I wanna I just want
00:55:20
to do this for myself and see where I
00:55:22
can end up yeah and I feel like you've
00:55:24
still had a lot to offer and it doesn't
00:55:25
feel like you've had um you know too
00:55:27
many knocks to the Head not too many but
00:55:29
uh
00:55:30
I said to the team listen if you see me
00:55:33
take punches and you see me start
00:55:35
mumbling my words and not making sense
00:55:37
and you know please please let me know
00:55:39
because that's the time for me to pull
00:55:41
it out I want to enjoy the rest of my
00:55:42
life with my kids and I don't want to
00:55:44
have that issue of not knowing how to
00:55:46
spell my name and saying my name and
00:55:47
just you know just all that stuff that a
00:55:49
lot of Fighters do go through at the end
00:55:51
of their career luckily I mean Joe is
00:55:53
very easy to spell yeah
00:55:58
um oh no I think it's doing a lot to a
00:56:00
lot to offer you don't have a lot to
00:56:02
offer the heavyweight division yeah and
00:56:04
I'll give it the best I have and I'll
00:56:06
see where it ends up do you know what
00:56:07
life after boxing looks like
00:56:10
um listen I've I've thought about many
00:56:11
things being a pilot being a coach
00:56:15
you know just being a gardener I don't
00:56:17
know there's a lot of things I want to
00:56:18
do
00:56:19
chart a boat I love fishing with a
00:56:21
passion but I haven't seen it on
00:56:24
anything yet
00:56:25
I mean I feel like whatever you decide
00:56:26
you want to do you can probably do like
00:56:28
uh it surprised me when I found out you
00:56:31
could play the piano
00:56:32
yeah my sister played piano and she
00:56:34
taught me a few things
00:56:37
um you know a few songs my brother plays
00:56:39
a piano my we play the drums we play
00:56:41
Guitar Play The Triangle shakers you can
00:56:44
play the triangle yeah
00:56:48
I reckon even if you do one fight too
00:56:50
many you can probably play the triangle
00:56:52
all right this has been great oh these
00:56:55
there's one thing I don't know if you
00:56:57
want to talk about this or not and
00:56:58
that's fine last year there's some stuff
00:57:01
that came out yeah yeah did you want to
00:57:03
I I remember hearing it at the time it
00:57:05
was like um sometimes it was like money
00:57:07
laundering did you want to talk about
00:57:09
that you don't want to talk about that
00:57:10
not really no because you'll just open
00:57:12
up more things yeah but anything I could
00:57:14
say about it is that that listen it was
00:57:17
the
00:57:18
they've done they've done all the
00:57:20
investigation there was nothing on me
00:57:21
yeah and they still released my name
00:57:23
yeah for more purpose release them for
00:57:27
what purpose I don't know because there
00:57:28
was nothing on me yeah it was all made
00:57:30
up
00:57:31
I'm not saying I'm perfect I'm not
00:57:32
saying I haven't done it absolutely I
00:57:34
haven't done anything that's um
00:57:36
I haven't done anything that's against
00:57:37
the law okay yeah we've all got regrets
00:57:41
and um you know anyone that says that
00:57:43
perfect is full of [ __ ] I'm not perfect
00:57:45
far from it but I but being associated
00:57:47
with people doesn't mean that you're
00:57:48
doing stuff or you've done this and
00:57:50
whatever they said about me yeah because
00:57:52
if listen if it was all true I wouldn't
00:57:54
be here today I'd be locked up
00:57:55
absolutely yeah absolutely I must admit
00:57:58
before that stuff came out being in
00:58:00
media you know you hear Western it was
00:58:02
the worst keep secret yeah I was really
00:58:04
surprised I said I I consider Joseph a
00:58:07
friend and I know him pretty well and it
00:58:08
just doesn't sound like him it's the
00:58:10
worst it was the worst keep Secret at
00:58:11
the time everyone knew about it but no
00:58:13
one said anything about it and then when
00:58:15
it was released I was just I was
00:58:17
overseas at the time I was in Ireland
00:58:18
training with Andy Lee so so this was
00:58:21
going on for years like you were
00:58:22
fighting for since 2000 and
00:58:25
17 18 which is 18 2017. it must have
00:58:29
been so hard for you and your family oh
00:58:30
listen the hard part is just knowing
00:58:32
there's something there but it's just
00:58:34
behind it's just like at the back of
00:58:36
your head but you're fighting and you're
00:58:37
you know having family time and
00:58:39
you know doing a lot of things but
00:58:41
there's always something just lurking in
00:58:42
the back but it wouldn't have released
00:58:44
it was I'm happy now it's out there now
00:58:46
because there's nothing
00:58:47
bothering me anymore you know because
00:58:49
I'm guessing you in and caught yourself
00:58:51
at lawyers
00:58:52
keep your name suppressed well that just
00:58:54
seems Seems mean and pointless that your
00:58:57
name was released when there's no
00:58:58
charges or anything like that yeah
00:59:00
that's right does that make you angry
00:59:03
no you just listen if you're angry
00:59:05
you're wasting your energy you just got
00:59:07
to accept it and I've accepted it I've
00:59:08
accepted what happened and I'm happy I'm
00:59:11
happy that it's gone now and it's in the
00:59:13
past and I'm able to move on and just
00:59:15
focus on what's in front of me and
00:59:17
what's important family career and just
00:59:21
doing the best I can in everything I do
00:59:23
yeah stressful few years so
00:59:26
but I don't think it's um even one of
00:59:29
those things that that you know defines
00:59:31
you or as part of the um the Joe Parker
00:59:34
Legacy do you know what I mean yeah I
00:59:35
put on Instagram yesterday on that I'm
00:59:37
meeting you today and we're having a
00:59:38
chat any questions and I was thinking I
00:59:40
may have to sit here moderating them
00:59:42
because people are going to bring this
00:59:43
up not one person did oh that's good
00:59:45
thank you thanks team into those
00:59:48
questions in a second but um yeah did
00:59:50
part of this come up because of your
00:59:52
friendship with Manu
00:59:54
I was just being associated with people
00:59:57
yeah Association but doesn't yeah like I
00:59:59
said knowing someone doesn't mean you're
01:00:02
doing what they're doing 100 yeah
01:00:04
absolutely how is money have you spoken
01:00:06
to him or you said yeah I've sent a
01:00:08
message to uh the one of the people
01:00:10
that's that is um sort of communicating
01:00:13
with him and I've sent him my love and
01:00:14
so yeah is there anything I can do for
01:00:16
his family while he's in there let me
01:00:18
know is he doing all right do you know
01:00:20
from what from what I heard he's doing
01:00:22
okay yeah yeah yeah I mean he's a good
01:00:24
guy he made a mistake honestly he's a
01:00:25
great guy yeah well we had a great
01:00:27
friendship we're like brothers too you
01:00:29
know yeah he made a mistake and
01:00:32
hopefully he's learned from it yeah I'm
01:00:33
sure he will I think anyone that makes a
01:00:35
mistake will learn from it yeah
01:00:36
absolutely no matter how big no matter
01:00:39
how small and there's always
01:00:40
consequences of what you do I'm a I'm a
01:00:43
I'm a big fan of like [ __ ] ups because I
01:00:45
think um you you can win a fight and
01:00:47
you're not going to learn much from it
01:00:48
if you lose a fight can take so much
01:00:50
more from it like I'm I'm guessing you
01:00:52
talk about you winning your world title
01:00:54
and you're not feeling as happy as what
01:00:56
you felt you should I'm guessing you
01:00:57
probably learned way more from the
01:00:58
Anthony Joshua loss than from your world
01:01:00
title win yeah I learned a lot from that
01:01:03
loss because I knew exactly after the
01:01:05
phone like oh damn I wish I did this I
01:01:06
wish I did that that's all learning now
01:01:09
let me work on this in the next camp and
01:01:11
then I lost you dillian way I was like
01:01:12
your prick
01:01:15
I've been wanting a rematch for a long
01:01:16
time with her and we have some we have a
01:01:19
type of relationship where it's like we
01:01:21
message on uh we used to mess around
01:01:23
Instagram he blocked me now
01:01:28
to that was it like trash talk or no we
01:01:33
would text and communicate we would talk
01:01:35
and then I'll say hey how are you and
01:01:38
he'll say oh good bro and then
01:01:41
you know and then I'll repost someone's
01:01:42
post about me fighting him and then
01:01:44
he'll say
01:01:45
and then he'll send me all these nasty
01:01:47
messages and you know F you and you know
01:01:50
I I smashed you up and I if you up again
01:01:53
uh you know you're my woman I own you
01:01:57
I can't find him now because he's
01:01:59
blocking me but that's not great
01:02:02
treasure then I will text him and I'll
01:02:04
say just relax and settle down there's
01:02:06
only a post
01:02:07
and then five weeks later I will text
01:02:09
him hey I really like your t-shirts and
01:02:12
then he ought to expect you want some
01:02:13
okay yes and then he's what's your
01:02:15
address
01:02:16
and then he seems to be teaching us all
01:02:18
the way from the UK amazing so it's like
01:02:21
a Jekyll and Hyde sort of character yeah
01:02:23
I'm not quite sure
01:02:25
I was just taking 40 years yeah but now
01:02:28
I can't take him 40 years because I'm
01:02:29
blocked yeah it's so crazy is your
01:02:34
biggest weakness do you think just being
01:02:35
too nice
01:02:36
wait I know a lot of people said that
01:02:38
over the years that you'd lack the
01:02:40
aggression and are you like too much of
01:02:42
a nice guy for to be a to be a like the
01:02:44
best boxer ever
01:02:46
um
01:02:47
yeah I think that has held me back but
01:02:50
now
01:02:52
I mean as far as criticisms go it's not
01:02:54
a bad it's not a bad word imagine going
01:02:57
from being the nice guy
01:02:59
to training of Tyson and sugar and Andy
01:03:02
and learning you know it's not
01:03:06
it's not what you do in the ring it's
01:03:09
what you do outside of the Ring leading
01:03:10
into the fight yeah
01:03:12
so now it's I think there's a bit of a
01:03:14
switch now that I could switch on and
01:03:16
off right and I I showed glimpses in the
01:03:19
chisora fight but I need to show more in
01:03:22
the future fights because I'm guessing
01:03:23
you don't hate anyone like you I don't
01:03:26
do you in the lead up to a fight like um
01:03:28
do you do you have to like like convince
01:03:31
yourself you hate the person I'm not so
01:03:33
much convinced but I want to like now
01:03:35
now the person in front of me I want to
01:03:37
bash them like I really want to smash
01:03:39
him in the face because that's what
01:03:42
they're trying to do to me you're back
01:03:43
in the like back then I wanna back then
01:03:46
I would say you know I want to smashed
01:03:47
him but when I thought about it did I
01:03:49
really want to smashed him but now you
01:03:51
know because
01:03:52
because of what I'm doing for myself and
01:03:55
wanting to be a world champion again
01:03:56
there's a purpose behind what I do there
01:03:59
was before but now there's even more of
01:04:02
purpose yeah so where are you ranked on
01:04:04
the world at the moment number two in a
01:04:06
WBO chat number three in a WBC and
01:04:09
number four and and well overall over
01:04:11
four or five yeah you can be the best in
01:04:13
the world again I'll be best in the
01:04:14
worrying I will be the best in the world
01:04:16
again yeah I believe you I will be
01:04:19
Champion hey I'm willing with some um
01:04:21
some of these Instagram questions that
01:04:22
came through someone asked how do you
01:04:24
over overcome your nerves like in the
01:04:26
lead up to a fight there's always going
01:04:27
to be nerves yeah you know we're human I
01:04:30
said to Tyson do you ever get nervous he
01:04:32
goes no
01:04:33
I said what about when you're walking to
01:04:34
the ring and all of that goes done
01:04:36
sometimes he forgets that he's going to
01:04:38
have a fight and then when he when the
01:04:40
bell goes and he gets he goes oh damn
01:04:41
now I'm fighting
01:04:43
for me he wakes him up for me they're a
01:04:45
little nerves but they're just I I think
01:04:47
those are good news it's like a reminder
01:04:49
that there's something big coming up
01:04:51
yeah but it's not like it's not bad news
01:04:54
it's good nerves right yeah so you just
01:04:57
can't let them overcome you is it like
01:04:58
excitement nerves it's excitement nerves
01:05:00
like okay there's something yeah oh
01:05:01
there's something big coming up it's not
01:05:03
so much it's not negative ones negative
01:05:05
one is like oh have I trained enough am
01:05:07
I in shape am I going to be ready oh how
01:05:10
is this going to go is he going to smash
01:05:11
me oh man how am I going to look in
01:05:13
front of everyone is my uniform all good
01:05:14
oh my gosh you know
01:05:16
yes I suppose like the worst case
01:05:19
scenario for you or for any box for that
01:05:21
matter is you end up with a situation
01:05:22
like um Shane Cameron had with David
01:05:24
tour that's the absolute worst case
01:05:26
scenario right that you get taken out of
01:05:28
there with paramedics yeah but if you go
01:05:30
in there thinking about or worrying
01:05:32
about the result and worrying about how
01:05:33
you're going to look you you sort of go
01:05:35
away from the structure and in the
01:05:37
process of trying to of going out there
01:05:39
and doing your best why worry about
01:05:41
something you can't control yeah just
01:05:43
focus on you and then everything will
01:05:45
unfold the way it should be yeah
01:05:47
actually I remember um hearing Richie
01:05:49
McCormick interview many years ago it
01:05:51
was during the um 2011 World Cup and he
01:05:54
said oh people say to me all the time oh
01:05:55
God are you nervous you'll lose what if
01:05:57
you lose what if you lose and he's like
01:05:58
no what if we win what if we win well
01:06:01
yes let's suppose it's thinking more
01:06:02
glass half thought rather than glass
01:06:03
half empty yeah or even like say example
01:06:05
you wake up and you're not feeling the
01:06:06
best you're going to tell yourself
01:06:07
you're not feeling the best or you're
01:06:09
just going to say I'm going to have a
01:06:09
great day mindset changes everything
01:06:11
yeah
01:06:13
yeah mindset and gratitude I reckon
01:06:15
gratitude you're good with the Gratitude
01:06:16
very very well I'm looking around here
01:06:19
you've got your own space invader
01:06:20
machine you've got a fridge with glass
01:06:22
doors and you gave me a my zone you came
01:06:24
over here with a bunch of snacks you've
01:06:26
got a lot to be grateful for Joseph I am
01:06:27
very grateful all right actually
01:06:29
everything for everything in my life for
01:06:31
the people that surround myself with and
01:06:33
for the the generous people that look
01:06:34
after me yeah actually I mean I I was
01:06:36
just I was just being funny before I
01:06:38
mentioned a couple of the material
01:06:39
things but I mean you've got a wonderful
01:06:40
family there's so much for you to be
01:06:42
grateful for right I'm a very grateful
01:06:44
person yeah and um very thankful for
01:06:47
just like my life and what I what I've
01:06:49
achieved and what I have and who I have
01:06:52
yeah well you've worked for it you've
01:06:54
worked very hard yeah you've worked for
01:06:55
it not very grateful you've done you've
01:06:57
done your time this um this guy called
01:06:59
Malcolm Gladwell and he's got a book
01:07:00
called um The Tipping Point and he talks
01:07:02
about the he's got a rule of ten
01:07:04
thousand hours like it takes ten
01:07:05
thousand hours of practice to get to
01:07:07
that as and I feel like um you talk
01:07:09
about amateur fights before all those
01:07:11
fights you must have done your team
01:07:13
yeah it was it wasn't the easiest
01:07:16
traveling around the world fighting on
01:07:18
different tournaments sometimes
01:07:20
traveling with no coach because New
01:07:22
Zealand didn't have enough money to send
01:07:23
a coach and send you but I think I have
01:07:26
done the hard yards leading into what
01:07:28
I've been able to achieve yeah okay back
01:07:30
to those Instagram questions someone
01:07:31
said what's the difference between AJ
01:07:33
and Tyson Fury
01:07:35
I suppose they mean um as boxers rather
01:07:38
than people yeah I mean you haven't
01:07:40
fought Fury but you've sparred with them
01:07:42
kind of kind of body spraying I think
01:07:44
the biggest what does body starring mean
01:07:46
what does that mean smashing your body
01:07:48
as hard as you can
01:07:50
so I'll show you some clips soon so
01:07:52
you're smashing his body or he's
01:07:53
smashing your body or both well both
01:07:54
trying to we're trying to find you know
01:07:57
holes and we're trying to find uh
01:07:58
openings and smashing as hard as we can
01:08:00
you're wearing pads nothing no no
01:08:02
nothing just gloves
01:08:06
body spray it's body spraying is serious
01:08:08
like body spraying is very tiring I
01:08:10
think the biggest difference of AJ and
01:08:13
Tyson is that
01:08:15
our Tyson has got the best fitness of
01:08:17
anyone that I've you know even though
01:08:19
Tyson's body doesn't look in the best
01:08:20
shape but he is in better shape a boxing
01:08:23
shape than AJ yeah AJ's shredded and
01:08:26
he's got a great body but uh I think for
01:08:29
boxing it's too much muscle for boxing
01:08:31
right
01:08:32
yeah is that a thing you reckon muscle
01:08:35
bound like muscle boundary the more
01:08:37
muscle you have the more you have the
01:08:38
oxygen has to go to his muscles right
01:08:40
and then I'm not sure how long the you
01:08:42
know the muscles can hang on to can it
01:08:45
go 12 rounds he's had uh issues of being
01:08:47
tired
01:08:48
um AJ with the you sick fight yeah
01:08:50
because
01:08:52
like some guy that loves the Snickers
01:08:53
they beat Andy Ruiz
01:08:55
Andy Ruiz yeah that's right like you see
01:08:57
them together at a way and then you
01:08:59
think okay this guy's gonna get this you
01:09:01
think because of bodies that just you
01:09:03
know because he looks great he's going
01:09:05
to smoke him because he's he's chubby
01:09:07
but sometimes it's um
01:09:09
boxing is a different sport in terms of
01:09:12
bodies it's not always about how good
01:09:14
you look it's not even it's not even
01:09:16
about how good you look it's about how
01:09:18
how strong and how fit you are and you
01:09:20
know if how good you are Technically
01:09:22
when I mention the Snickers you knew
01:09:24
exactly yeah oh that's so sad you know
01:09:28
what was the story of this like a
01:09:29
Snickers
01:09:30
Cinema like traffic because you love
01:09:33
Snickers and when you beat Anthony
01:09:34
Joshua I think Snickers did something
01:09:35
with him yeah so he became the and you
01:09:38
know he became the Snickers man yeah
01:09:40
mate I beat him to become world champion
01:09:42
yeah yeah later I think that was here in
01:09:45
Auckland in Auckland yeah we had an
01:09:46
interview with them yeah he's a nice guy
01:09:48
lovely guy lovely guy okay um another
01:09:51
Instagram question I don't know if
01:09:52
there's if this is a deep one or not but
01:09:55
uh where does the urge to fight come
01:09:56
from
01:09:57
the urge to fight I don't know what that
01:09:59
means exactly how do you interpret that
01:10:01
the urge to fight
01:10:04
um you know in the beginning it wasn't
01:10:05
even about money yeah it wasn't it
01:10:08
wasn't like when your dad's approval in
01:10:10
a way it was something like to
01:10:13
to impress my dad or to make his dreams
01:10:15
come true yeah that's what I was about
01:10:17
and I always thought to myself you know
01:10:19
I'm going to do well and smash everyone
01:10:21
and whatever happens happens and the
01:10:23
money came and you know and being
01:10:24
popular came but the urge to fight the
01:10:27
urge to fight is right now the urge to
01:10:29
fight is because I just want to be
01:10:30
Champion yeah I want that belt yeah so
01:10:32
that's why I want to fight is it about
01:10:34
you now are you doing it for yourself
01:10:35
it's about me now and my my family yeah
01:10:39
my wife and kids not about anyone else
01:10:41
not about my parents or you know coaches
01:10:44
or it's about me and my family your dad
01:10:46
must be so proud my dad is the most
01:10:48
nervous sometimes I look over like
01:10:50
imagine fighting and you look over and
01:10:52
your dad's not watching the fight but
01:10:54
he's just so nervous that he can't
01:10:55
really watch you when you're in a ring
01:10:58
why is that you think that this is what
01:11:01
he wanted this is what my mom watches it
01:11:02
more than my dad right right like he is
01:11:04
so nervous like he's awful like I don't
01:11:07
know he's just because he got us he got
01:11:09
us into it he must be torn he's like I
01:11:11
did this he got us into this
01:11:13
and any time we've been hurt he's just
01:11:16
like I'm just like I'm sorry it's my
01:11:18
fault and
01:11:19
I just don't relax it's all good well
01:11:22
luckily you've never really but have you
01:11:23
ever really been hurt only uh once Dylan
01:11:27
Whitehead but me right and then he
01:11:28
knocked me down onto the left hook but I
01:11:30
wasn't hurt yeah yeah I was more hurt
01:11:32
from the head but yeah so I want to head
01:11:34
by him back home
01:11:37
and take these Instagram questions
01:11:40
um has your why changed over the years
01:11:42
my wife has changed yeah it's not for
01:11:44
everyone else yeah you know it goes back
01:11:47
to that the urge to fight yeah my why is
01:11:49
my myself and my family my wife and kids
01:11:52
that's my way
01:11:54
unless when you have your own family
01:11:56
that's Everything Changes yeah
01:11:58
they become the most important people in
01:11:59
your lives you know of course you love
01:12:01
your parents and you love your siblings
01:12:03
and your love cousins and all that but
01:12:05
when it's your family it is your family
01:12:06
it's a different feeling and I don't
01:12:08
know maybe people can relate to that
01:12:10
oh absolutely 100 I'm sure everyone can
01:12:14
um someone asked what's your you imagine
01:12:17
to wait you mentioned before that when
01:12:19
um Sonny Bill came over you were in the
01:12:20
weights part of your training cycle
01:12:22
someone wanted to know what's your one
01:12:24
rep max for bench Squat and deadlift
01:12:27
well for deadlift is
01:12:29
220 kgs for bench I only got up to 125.
01:12:34
what's the other one squat yeah
01:12:37
200.
01:12:38
200. what's that for 420 kilo plates
01:12:41
each side and a 10. [ __ ] that's a big
01:12:44
squat oh you're not going very deep
01:12:46
though are you you're not going all the
01:12:47
way down ask the grass
01:12:49
and someone said um on Instagram
01:12:52
um like what are your biggest fears
01:12:55
the funny thing is I guess what you do
01:12:57
uh day in day out is most people's
01:12:59
biggest fear yeah but it's not scary for
01:13:01
you it's exciting for you it's exciting
01:13:03
for my biggest fear is not giving it
01:13:04
everything I have my biggest fear is not
01:13:07
training hard my biggest fear is not um
01:13:10
my other biggest fear is not being a
01:13:12
good dad and not giving time to my kids
01:13:14
so that's when I when I do have the
01:13:17
opportunity to give time I give my full
01:13:18
attention right
01:13:21
hardest thing being away for so long
01:13:23
being away and listen being away and
01:13:25
maybe missing the next birth
01:13:27
because I might I might be flying out
01:13:29
tomorrow if I can lock on this next
01:13:30
contract for the next fight in july I'll
01:13:33
be out for tomorrow yeah so we're
01:13:34
recording this podcast on Friday the
01:13:36
13th of May when it's uh when's your
01:13:38
wife's due date uh 20th right so that's
01:13:41
a week away can't they induce
01:13:44
oh they they've suggested but if she she
01:13:47
wants to be doing the natural way she
01:13:49
must she must be an incredible woman so
01:13:52
she's she's okay with you she's she's
01:13:53
not salty about you not being never yeah
01:13:55
because she supports she can see why I
01:13:58
do this it's for our family you know not
01:14:00
not fighting and bashing people but but
01:14:02
once the fighting comes uh money and you
01:14:06
can pay for things with I said we've
01:14:08
traveled all around the world as a
01:14:09
family we'll travel to England travel to
01:14:11
Dubai Ireland Mexico
01:14:13
um Vegas La we've done some fun things
01:14:16
and I think you know that kind of that
01:14:19
that stuff really makes me happy yeah
01:14:21
experiences with the family around the
01:14:23
world taking my kids to Dubai we've been
01:14:25
on the beach and swimming at the pool
01:14:27
and just giving them life experiences
01:14:29
that I don't know that they'll never
01:14:31
forget yeah when you're older you're not
01:14:34
going to have regrets yourself though
01:14:35
like about missing the births I suppose
01:14:37
you don't know now but I I honestly I
01:14:39
have the closest relationship with my
01:14:40
girls even though I've missed the birth
01:14:42
of all the you know all the all the
01:14:44
births but I've made up for a you know
01:14:47
well listen I don't even have to make up
01:14:48
for it just the relationship I have with
01:14:50
him yeah if I said if I went in there
01:14:53
right now they all come running to me
01:14:54
and I'm not even gone I'm not even I
01:14:57
haven't even left the house
01:14:58
listen if I'm walking down they all
01:15:00
start running to me that's so special
01:15:03
and that's the best feeling being a
01:15:04
being a dad I'll be I'll take that
01:15:07
feeling any day of the you know any day
01:15:10
of the week and then any other feeling
01:15:12
do they do they sort of have an
01:15:14
understanding of what you do are they
01:15:15
too young they do yeah yeah two fights
01:15:18
have they yeah they're older two yeah
01:15:21
the last one and they've been to one in
01:15:23
Christchurch
01:15:24
and they watch them they watch it on TV
01:15:27
I'll put each one
01:15:29
that's a weird one I thought you try and
01:15:30
like sort of shelter them from that I
01:15:31
guess but then again I didn't know when
01:15:34
they come in a garage they watched me
01:15:35
train right right she punched a bag what
01:15:37
do they think do they get nervous or is
01:15:38
it just like I suppose they're just
01:15:40
going down here go Daddy go daddy keep
01:15:42
it up Daddy go to work
01:15:45
Daddy can I try your gloves listen they
01:15:47
come here and when I do push-ups they do
01:15:49
push-ups right when I like when I do a
01:15:51
run on a treadmill they run up and down
01:15:53
here they're like Daddy we're training
01:15:54
with you and dude can you give us the
01:15:56
weights please
01:15:57
they want to you know they want to join
01:15:59
in
01:16:00
I love that so much I want to join I
01:16:03
think there's a good uh it's good for
01:16:04
them to see what I do yeah and hopefully
01:16:06
they can pass on to you know for them
01:16:08
because you know health is wealth and
01:16:10
you've got to absolutely oh Health
01:16:11
System health is everything there's a
01:16:13
quote I really like it a man that has
01:16:15
his health can have many wishes a man
01:16:17
that doesn't have his health only has
01:16:19
one wish yeah you can have whatever
01:16:21
everything in the world but if you don't
01:16:22
have your health what's the purpose of
01:16:24
it yeah
01:16:25
absolutely health is key and last one
01:16:28
from Instagram in any regret
01:16:30
any regrets yeah I suppose in your life
01:16:34
life sport whatever
01:16:37
I wouldn't be the person I'm today if I
01:16:39
had regrets I enjoy I I listen
01:16:42
everything that I've done in my life I'm
01:16:43
happy with yeah and I've enjoyed and
01:16:46
it's happened everything has happened
01:16:47
for a reason so I have no regrets
01:16:49
nothing at all that's a great attitude
01:16:52
nothing good not even doing this podcast
01:16:54
today I have no I I honestly I am so
01:16:58
happy where I am in life and I just I
01:17:01
love my family and I love what I'm doing
01:17:03
and I enjoy every day I wake up happy I
01:17:06
wake up ready to train I wake up in good
01:17:08
mood in a good mood and
01:17:10
life is very very good and you say
01:17:13
health is wealth after boxing um what do
01:17:16
you think how um health and fitness will
01:17:18
look like for you running I'm going to
01:17:20
build a gym right in that area where the
01:17:23
playhouse is going to be removed I want
01:17:25
to build a gym there with a ring and I'm
01:17:26
gonna have everything in there and I
01:17:27
have no excuse to keep in shape I don't
01:17:29
want to be that fighter
01:17:31
who's at the end of the career after the
01:17:33
career and is not in shape and he looks
01:17:36
terrible I will stay in shape for the
01:17:37
rest of my life well it's not just for
01:17:39
boxing it's a lifestyle yeah absolutely
01:17:41
do you think running will always be part
01:17:43
of it will always be part of my life
01:17:44
running walking jogging all of that I I
01:17:46
enjoy it I went for a run this morning
01:17:48
with my brother John
01:17:49
and it wasn't the fastest piece but we
01:17:51
had a great time yeah it's what where
01:17:53
you live it's very hilly yeah it was
01:17:55
good yeah how far did you go six
01:17:58
kilometers yeah it was a good one took
01:18:00
uh Kaiser my dog with me
01:18:01
and it was good I really enjoyed the
01:18:04
scenery you know he said what a
01:18:05
beautiful day it is to run yeah it makes
01:18:08
me want to go for another run you're
01:18:09
right you're
01:18:12
um you're in um a sort of rural South
01:18:14
Auckland on it
01:18:16
it's a noisy air Spirit
01:18:18
um you're in sort of rural South
01:18:19
Auckland almost like you'd call it maybe
01:18:21
a lifestyle block
01:18:22
um and it's the air out here is just
01:18:24
beautiful yeah the air is beautiful and
01:18:25
listen Roger lives just over here who's
01:18:27
Roger really
01:18:30
down there
01:18:31
let's go down into a podcast
01:18:34
I am Joseph Parker you're an absolute
01:18:37
great New Zealander um I've known you as
01:18:40
I said at the beginning for maybe 10
01:18:41
years now and you've never changed them
01:18:43
that time like you've just always been
01:18:44
just a really really nice guy
01:18:47
I think it's important to oh yeah
01:18:48
important to be yourself and stay true
01:18:50
to yourself and just because you have
01:18:52
you've made you know good things in life
01:18:55
like money and you've got a house and
01:18:56
this and that just be yourself and I
01:18:59
think that's what my mum told me it's a
01:19:00
son be yourself and just don't change
01:19:02
yeah
01:19:03
unless you're an [ __ ] in which case
01:19:06
if you're if you're an [ __ ] then come
01:19:09
back to being a nice person yeah all
01:19:13
right hey thank you so much for your
01:19:14
time today mate it's been an absolute
01:19:15
honor to have you on the podcast thank
01:19:16
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