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speak to the lovely and talented Brody
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Kane maybe you follow Brody on Instagram
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which has got a massive following she
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loves to run she's done a whole lot of
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TV stuff as well if the name sounds
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familiar but you can't quite picture it
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she's been on Fair go breakfast seven
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sharp done a bunch of TV stuff and she's
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going to be in this season of Dancing
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With the Stars it was just announced a
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couple of days ago she's an absolute
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treasure and it's an honor to have her
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on the podcast oh Dom it's a pleasure to
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be here look if there's any advice I can
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give you is do what you want when you
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want you set the rules now okay okay I
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will I will um I love your podcast kiwi
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yance
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um you you don't have theme music why
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don't you have a theme song oh just
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there's just a little guitar but at the
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start yeah yeah like an intro yeah
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I um
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I'm sort of like more more on the basic
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side of things I think I'm like in out
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people people don't need they don't come
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to me for the music they come to me for
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my wishes chat highly researched
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interviews you know well that makes me
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feel bad now mine is epic I've heard it
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I've heard it okay have you got a couple
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of minutes to sit here it's quite long
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yeah that's what a lot of people have
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been saying that like it's very very
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long okay here we go cue the intro
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[Music]
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[Music]
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all right I've got goosebumps I get
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goosebumps every time I hear that who is
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that is that Dane Rumble no some dude a
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Fiverr you know the app Fiverr yeah yeah
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yeah some American guy paid him like 80
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bucks 90 bucks oh okay that's
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interesting yeah okay you need a theme
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song well mine just goes kiwi Yarns with
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Brody Kane and then a bit of guitar that
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my mate Braden played for me actually so
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that sounds really good how are you I'm
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I'm actually fantastic you um I was
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gonna say you won't believe this but you
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probably will um I put a thing on my
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Instagram last week saying um any any
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suggestions for people you'd like to
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hear as a guest on Runners only your
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name came up more than anyone else your
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name came out so often yeah you've
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you've you've just got this um I don't
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know this this fan base or this this
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community that you've connected with and
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uh I was I was thinking about on the
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drive-in because uh you've been around
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for a just like you're on radio live
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you've you've been on Q a fair go you're
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on breakfast for a while then on radio
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but I feel like you're you're a fan base
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and these people that connect with you
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this is something that you've built up
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on your own independently is that fear
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actually I I I agree with you with that
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in terms of particularly around the
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running and stuff like that and I think
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that perhaps that's because with
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something like Instagram which you know
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judge it or not whatever you like
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um you actually can connect with people
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um on a on a personal level and I just
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sort of treat you I just sort of treat
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Instagram as my own little television
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show like I'm like well I don't have my
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own TV show and I don't have a radio
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show anymore so this is where I can just
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have a yarn and and more often than not
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I'm just it's because I'm by myself and
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I think of something funny and I'm like
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oh I need to share that because that's
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quite funny or you know like I just I
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just sort of just Little Snippets I
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guess of your life and that's just sort
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of has happened and it has I guess the
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following has increased
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um interestingly as I've not been on I
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guess mainstream media so yes it's cool
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oh I think it's something to be proud of
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yeah I think in in because because you
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can be for one you can be entirely
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authentic yeah totally and I think that
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um you're constantly reminded that that
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is actually what people want to see
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um and people having been able to see
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what that looks like and what the
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alternative looks like I think it's
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quite refreshing for people and you
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can't people they they know
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they smell it a mile away yeah they do
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so what what's your history with running
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like what's your what's your why why did
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you say I know you did your very first
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marathon in 2018
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so why did you start running well okay
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so quite often people say have you
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always been able to run
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and I kind of think that I have I have
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and so when I was a teenager I did lots
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of surf life saving so like surf life
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saving and swimming were my first sort
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of I guess passions in terms of sport
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and then I think I did like a couple of
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half marathons in my 20s like boozing up
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at Uni then it's like oh gosh I better
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go and do a half marathon or something
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um and then I think like I must have
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done that the Auckland half marathon the
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year before so 2017 and I remember you
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would have done that you've done the the
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Auckland yeah yeah and so you know where
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um you you're doing the half and then
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you're about to run into Victoria Park
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and then the sign says to turn left if
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you're going to continue is the cruelest
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sign in the world yes and then and then
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obviously you turn right to finish the
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half and I just remember that year going
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I need to go I need to go left one day I
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need I need to go left and so I
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immediately decided that that's what I
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was going to do
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um and so yeah I did it the year after
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and
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it was one of those experiences that
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you're like that is a really hard thing
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there's a really bloody hard thing to do
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but then something just sort of keeps
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you in and I think it's the whole
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personal Journey gosh I try not to use
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too many cliche words
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whole journey of learning how far you
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can actually push yourself and I think
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that doing something like that can
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actually teach you a lot about yourself
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and then that really can sort of be
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crossed over into every other part of
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your life like 100 I agree like there's
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parallels between distance running and
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and just life in general like um you
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have shitty periods and then you get
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through it and you feel good again so
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yeah and and so I
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training for that Marathon I did most
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most of it by myself which I wouldn't I
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wouldn't say I don't know I enjoy
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training with people more now I enjoy
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sort of going on adventures and stuff
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like that but it is quite good to do
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that because you need to learn you need
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to have your amazing runs you need to
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have your really hard training runs and
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figure out a lot of stuff in your own
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head yeah because you know it's a
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classic
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um saying but it is really about the top
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two inches with with long distance
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running and so you have to be able to
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find your way out of some really dark
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places that no one else can really help
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you with you know so yeah so and and so
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from then it was like okay I really like
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that I like how that whole experience
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went
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I kind of knew as well I don't know I
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hit my 30s and and and and I'm still in
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them now and I feel like you just sort
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of really hit your straps in terms of
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having quite a good balance of physical
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and mental toughness that you we're in
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your 20s you're like I don't care enough
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kind of thing about that but really feel
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like that was something that became
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quite apparent to me I feel like you
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must have always had it though to a
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degree I mean you and we'll get to this
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later but you're in the Army for a time
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so I feel like there must have been that
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sort of grit or that resilience or that
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determination there all along no yeah
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yeah always been a pretty physical
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person always been quite competitive
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Within Myself and then having two pretty
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legendary parents in a you know a
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sporting family
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um always aware of of of what they had
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done and you know what had they done
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well so if you let's just take mum the
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the I guess like Dad would go oh gosh
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I'm nothing like nothing like man but
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you know he was a good runner he was a
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really good runner um so he did uh he
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you know he did Marathon he did the
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Kepler track and stuff like that mum
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um has done some pretty remarkable
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things so she's done two full Iron Men
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um marathons keep the track nine Coast
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to coasts and then she's when she was 40
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she swung the straight
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get out yeah really yes yes what how
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many hours uh what does that take yeah
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she was 12 hours 10 hours 10 hours 52.
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she did 32ks the shortest distance
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between the North and the South Island
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is 21 but she did 32 because that piece
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of water is so notorious and that was
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her second attempt by the way too the
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first attempt which happens to a lot of
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people had to be pulled out because the
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tides and the winds change at a moment's
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notice and she never would have made it
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to land so she had to go back like four
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weeks later and and do it again and did
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it
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so like oh that's extraordinary yeah so
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she's wow quite quite a remarkable woman
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and and and never someone that was
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um the fastest ever but just her
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toughness and her endurance has been
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something that I've always looked up to
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so it's funny that she her first her
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first like sort of I guess
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into long distance stuff was the coast
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to coast and I was only six months old
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so she that was in her 30s as well when
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did she train she she
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I don't know was she not kayaking with
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you in the last time they're the front
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pack and stuff like that eh you know
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like but so um yeah so she she just is
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amazing so it's funny sort of watching
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what she did in her 30s and how I'm sort
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of like creeping in there and doing sort
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of some similar stuff yeah do you feel
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like that's in your future like I'm
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going further or going longer doing more
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gnarly trails and Ultras and things I
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can tell you I will absolutely never
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swim the strikes I've got no desire
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there's a theory the theory is perfectly
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good it is quite good you know they do a
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good hot chip and a nice cold beer and
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that's yeah you can also fly over it as
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well you know
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um but yeah it's funny I don't know like
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you probably feel this as well where I
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remember doing my first marathon and I
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was like that's a big day then
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you're like oh running four and four
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hours and a few minutes and did it an
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hour and that's fine and then you're
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like no that was it's a really long way
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and then you see people doing Ultras and
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you're like oh that's just stupid and
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then you're like God so I need a few
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more hours and so then this year I was
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training for the coast to coast and
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that's two days so all of a sudden
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you've gone from thinking that you know
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just over four hours is a is a really
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long time and then you're about to
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bloody Traverse across the country so
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you do you do creep up but I have a goal
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posts that have changed don't they yeah
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but I have just been watching the people
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that have done God's Own and that looks
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ridiculous but then I'm like well just
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if I asked me in five years I'll
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probably be bloody doing gold side you
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do it as a team too which I think would
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make it more fun yeah so so back to your
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first marathon so um you reach the
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Finish Line what happens then did you
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burst into tears did you just have this
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feeling that anything you can put your
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mind to in life you will so it was
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actually interesting because again mum
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had given me the piece of advice that I
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would pass on to anyone that was doing a
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marathon for the first time finish it
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and try and finish it with a smile on
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your face because so many people are
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like what time are you aiming for what
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are you you know what Pacey and and so
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which we can get to on the disaster that
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was the second Marathon I ever did but
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so I just constantly said to myself this
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is an experience and just try and enjoy
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it and so
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for most of it I mean it's a weird
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enjoyment isn't it because it's not like
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oh this is fun like whoa you're like my
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legs are it's hot but here I am
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kind of thing I think the fun comes
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afterwards right they're just there the
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minute you cross the first feeling of
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self-satisfaction and yeah you've done
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something pretty special yeah so I I I I
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thought that I thought that I would
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burst into tears I booked because I
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burst into tears watching other people
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like when you know when you go to the
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finish line of anything it's like oh my
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God this is so amazing but I didn't but
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I was just really really stoked and I
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was like there is a small percentage of
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the world that do these and I'm now part
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of that so it was a very cool feeling
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and then by gosh that first cold crisp
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glass of champagne and then the massive
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feed that you're allowed to have
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afterwards you're like Yep this is worth
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it yeah it's weird because the the
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Auckland Marathon always starts really
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early so when you finish it's like 9am
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10 a.m but alcohol seems perfectly
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reasonable at that time of the day yeah
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no it was and it was a beautiful day and
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it was it was just it was cool and I
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thought okay and do you know what though
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the weird thing that you find also is
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that you have a weird couple of days
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afterwards which are actually almost
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like a post-run depression yeah
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anti-climactic like right well if I feel
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it it's a weird feeling
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um I think you can get better and get
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used to it in in sort of like Channel it
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out as you go on but I just remember the
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the couple of days afterwards being like
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Oh what do I do now and then you can
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also go through a mindset which again I
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think you can manage over time of being
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like Oh my God I like you know you have
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a couple of days off and then you're
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like oh gosh I need to go running
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because I'll lose all my fitness what's
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breaking news you don't but you know
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like you takes your body a long time to
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recover from something like that but
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then I was like okay that was fun
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um let's think about what what might be
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next so
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yeah so it was a it was it was as a
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first marathon experience it was it was
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pretty good second one where was this
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what was this Queenstown to still stalk
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makes me yeah yeah it was in Queenstown
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so dude do you want to discuss your time
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or anything
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I never really bring up with people
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unless they're Elite because it's very
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personal oh no I think it doesn't really
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matter it's funny because you I think
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you uh like I am competitive of myself
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but I've also again evolved over time in
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terms of what that actually means to me
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so when I did Auckland I came across
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four hours 15. right that's a good time
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yeah I mean I was like oh that's great
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um the funny thing was I was running
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with a A girlfriend of mine we'd sort of
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kept she lived in Auckland I was living
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at Christchurch at the time
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at about 26 or 20 we'd promised each
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other I said if you feel better than I
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do you need to go and vice versa because
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this is our own runs and so at about 26
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or 27 K's she was like
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I think I'm I'm gonna go and I was like
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mate go like absolutely go and so I said
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but warning like the race starts at 30.
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it's still very early in the race a bit
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nervous for her but she away she went
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and she finished at like four you know
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because a lot of people would love the
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idea of running under four hours right
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yeah yeah yeah so she came in at 401 and
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I said do you know why I said it's
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because we took that selfie on the
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bridge
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and it was like she was like oh no but
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it was fine you know she laughed about
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it and it was cool but I did it four
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hours 15. and then magic numbers are
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funny things aren't they because they're
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so they met they're meaningless like
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mine was breaking three hours and I did
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it once and then uh did you enjoy it
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though well I I enjoyed like working
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towards the stress building up to that
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goal was awful yeah and I had so much
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self-doubt when I did it I felt amazing
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and I feel like I could even maybe do a
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faster one than two hours 57 but I don't
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know if the enjoyment or satisfaction
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I'd get out of going faster would be
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worth the pain I'd put myself through
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and that's what mum said when she so
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yeah so she did a um she it did do a sub
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four
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um and she said it was back in the day
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when you didn't have a bloody garment on
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she'd literally the top like written
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down on her on her hand with a pen and
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was like oh yeah and so she said I never
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that was one that I'll I'll never
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actually remember that for anything good
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do you know what I mean like she was
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like yeah I've got so many other amazing
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memories of runs but yeah so I finished
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Auckland in 4 15 and I was like right
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well bloody hell under four let's go
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kind of thing
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and I uh look I didn't have enough no
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one briefed me enough about how Bloody
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hilly Queen sound was and by the way oh
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by the way
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hashtag flat out beautiful
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is I was gonna say that this this
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Billboard's at the airport that's their
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marketing slogan that's someone taking
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the person I just it is so the opposite
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of what I would describe now
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Christchurch flat out the run it's not
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that beautiful but it's very flat so I
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sort of no one had said to me it's
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really hilly so it's probably not the
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best course to try and go under four
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hours I know and there's some gnarly
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Trails on the edge of Lake Hayes
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actually there's there's one hurl at the
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end of Lake Hayes where it's so steep
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you have to walk yes I did I can confirm
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and so I had done a lot of training I
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was you know I'd done a lot of running
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it was a big build up
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um and uh there's hindsight's a
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beautiful thing the week and the lead up
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was too busy I had too many commitments
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and stuff and then I went I went into
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this run and
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I you know you have your eye yeah you
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have your idea of your times and stuff
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and I hit the first
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um first uh 10ks in like yeah 57 minutes
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and you're like Wicked yeah good on Pace
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and then literally share the bed with in
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about about 16 K's in around Lake Hayes
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and I sort of was trying to and my heart
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rate was just so high it was quite hot
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and and at that point though you're like
00:18:03
oh it's just a couple of Hills you'll
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get through this you know you're fine
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you're fine you're fine
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and then you get down this hill and go
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back up to a drink station which must be
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at about yeah 17 and a half you mean
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yeah and and that's at a top of a hill
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and I was like I'm actually I'm actually
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feeling really and and and then
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you're like but I shouldn't be because
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I'm not even halfway my God my God and I
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just I just heard from that moment from
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about 17k's when I actually owned up to
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the fact that I felt horrific and how am
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I going to get myself out of that it
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took me to about 29 K's so I had 12 K's
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of just negative headspace I've just
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been so beside myself and I'm in the
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running past my mum was it like yeah
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22ks and I had tearsed down my face and
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she was just like oh stay out of
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her way today all right you've got got
00:19:01
this you know and so the the
00:19:03
what you go through in that what I went
00:19:07
through was anger
00:19:09
sadness frustration and you're really
00:19:11
pissed off at yourself and you to
00:19:13
combine that with feeling like you've
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you're so physically exhausted why why
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did you feel did you feel like you'd let
00:19:20
yourself down why did you I felt I was
00:19:23
like oh my God you've been training for
00:19:24
months and now you're not even halfway
00:19:26
and you and you you've had a terrible
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time you're having a terrible time and
00:19:29
this is all your fault not a stranger
00:19:31
I'm I'm exactly the same it makes zero
00:19:33
sense like you could just pull out you
00:19:34
could dnf yeah yeah whatever no one's
00:19:36
gonna give a yeah and so I feel
00:19:39
like what was amazing though and do you
00:19:42
know what I'm really glad it happened
00:19:44
I'm really glad it happened I feel like
00:19:47
every person needs a bad run because
00:19:49
what you can learn about yourself in
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terms of what you can push yourself
00:19:52
through and what you can push your mind
00:19:54
and your body through so that 12ks was
00:19:56
like just trying to work through and
00:19:59
flip yourself through to like okay it's
00:20:02
not going to go to plan don't worry
00:20:04
about times you just have to finish it
00:20:06
so have fun enjoy it yeah
00:20:11
yeah and so then by the time I sort of
00:20:14
across that beautiful historic bridge at
00:20:16
the shot over and then I was like okay
00:20:18
all right you just like and my my feet
00:20:22
were barely leaving the ground you know
00:20:24
and I just lost the shuffle I shuffled
00:20:26
to Queenstown and I came in at about 4
00:20:29
45 and and Crossing that finish line I
00:20:34
was just the most incredible feeling and
00:20:38
instantly those 12ks are now a memory
00:20:42
you know like that's what's so
00:20:43
fascinating it's just and so
00:20:46
that was actually and that was more of a
00:20:49
hard come down actually after that run
00:20:50
because I was really confused and I was
00:20:53
disappointed but then you're like well
00:20:55
you can't be disappointed you just run
00:20:56
around a marathon yeah so but and then I
00:20:59
looked at then it was like but then you
00:21:00
can be open and honest about why that
00:21:02
went that way and you need to talk about
00:21:04
it and what you know had you over
00:21:07
trained which I believe I had I actually
00:21:09
think I'd over train for that one
00:21:12
um so I think I went into it tired
00:21:15
um and I should yeah so but but ever
00:21:18
since like
00:21:19
I I feel like I learned way more from
00:21:22
that happening than if it hadn't
00:21:24
happened yeah you know what I mean 100
00:21:26
I'm a firm believer this is something
00:21:28
we've talked about on the podcast like
00:21:29
we need to like reframe how we feel
00:21:31
about failing because failing is
00:21:33
considered a bad thing and a thing to
00:21:34
avoid but you learn so much more out of
00:21:36
your your fails and your your ups
00:21:38
than than your successes well I think
00:21:40
that a lot of people when people message
00:21:42
me and ask me about running and hey have
00:21:46
you gotten I want to start out running
00:21:47
and I want some tips and tricks and so
00:21:51
that so first of all I say to people
00:21:52
just so you know I'm not a running coach
00:21:54
but I'll just give you some advice in
00:21:57
terms of what people probably should
00:21:59
know and that is don't just Chuck your
00:22:01
shoes on and think that you should go
00:22:02
out and run 5Ks like everyone's got this
00:22:04
amazing Benchmark that they think that
00:22:06
they should go and do that right and
00:22:07
then so they go out they have a terrible
00:22:09
time because a running is hard b5ks is a
00:22:12
long way to run so see they're like well
00:22:14
that was I don't want to do that
00:22:16
again so I always say to people just
00:22:18
take your time like one run one lamp
00:22:21
host and then walk the next and and
00:22:24
remind yourself that walking isn't
00:22:26
failure either because I think people
00:22:27
think you have to go out running and
00:22:30
that once you're running the minute you
00:22:31
stop or the minute you start walking
00:22:33
debts you've failed and so that's always
00:22:36
my bit of advice for people is just you
00:22:38
know like if you can run one one lamp
00:22:40
post and then walk and then the next day
00:22:42
is two and two and then the next day is
00:22:44
three and three such a better way to do
00:22:46
it than just having this weird
00:22:48
expectation that everyone should be able
00:22:50
because if everyone's running is
00:22:51
different you go to a marathon there's
00:22:54
people everyone's got different running
00:22:55
techniques and styles so not everyone's
00:22:58
built the same
00:22:59
um and so you don't have to you know
00:23:02
it's a slow process to learn to love it
00:23:05
yeah how long did it take you to fall in
00:23:07
love with it was it a while or no it
00:23:10
sounds like it was just always sort of
00:23:11
simmering in the background it was so I
00:23:14
think and but I also think that
00:23:17
I've got to a point where I'm not doing
00:23:20
it probably as much as I was when I so I
00:23:23
did three marathons rather and
00:23:25
relatively I guess quick succession like
00:23:27
I had Auckland then I did Queenstown and
00:23:29
then I did Hawke's Bay so one a year and
00:23:32
then after it at Hawke's Bay I was like
00:23:34
I don't think I need to do another one
00:23:35
for a while I think I'm good with the
00:23:37
marathons for a minute and then and then
00:23:40
then I started exploring a bit of
00:23:42
off-road but a trail and then obviously
00:23:44
entering the coast to coast so my I I
00:23:47
think pulling back a little bit has kept
00:23:50
my my love for it you know because I'm
00:23:52
fire burning yeah because it just your
00:23:53
legs are always sore too like all my
00:23:56
knees crack and it's like okay you need
00:23:58
to you know like you need to just pump
00:24:00
the brakes a little bit on it so so I
00:24:03
think yeah after Hawkes Bay I was like I
00:24:05
don't want to train for another Marathon
00:24:06
but then yeah doing it and and actually
00:24:09
a lot of what I'm doing now is I guess a
00:24:12
bit more Trail things with hills in them
00:24:14
which I'm like I'm sweet to walk that no
00:24:17
not everyone needs to run up a hill so
00:24:19
absolutely absolutely so you you just
00:24:22
some more about enjoyment the enjoyment
00:24:24
Factor yeah well is there still that
00:24:26
sort of competitive streak oh definitely
00:24:27
a competitive streak in me
00:24:29
um you know I I so I've spent the past
00:24:33
when did I start training for I guess
00:24:35
like July last year is probably when I
00:24:38
started training July August started
00:24:40
training for the coast to coast and so
00:24:43
that was you know that's running biking
00:24:46
and kayaking
00:24:48
um and so but it was different because
00:24:50
it was like coast to coast is an
00:24:53
Adventure Race so you were like packing
00:24:56
up the car and taking the kayak and
00:24:58
pedaling Down The Gorge or running up
00:25:00
hills scrambling up rocks that goats
00:25:03
Pass Run is incredible but it's I don't
00:25:05
know if you can call it running for most
00:25:06
people yeah the last 10ks over like Big
00:25:08
River Boulders oh it's it is an absolute
00:25:11
monster goat pass and I've now done it
00:25:14
um I think I may have done it one two
00:25:16
three four five five times wow and it
00:25:20
never you know what like every time I've
00:25:23
done that run so it's for people that
00:25:24
are not familiar it's a 33k mountain run
00:25:28
near Arthur's pass and you essentially
00:25:31
do run up a river alongside a river
00:25:33
there isn't really a track there's sort
00:25:35
of like maybe 10 is track and it is a
00:25:39
monster like it's beautiful but every
00:25:42
time I do it I'm like
00:25:43
why'd you do that again that was huge
00:25:45
like it's massive it is massive yeah and
00:25:48
it's just really really hard and every
00:25:50
time you do it you forget about a
00:25:52
section like you're like what's good
00:25:54
about it it wasn't here last time like
00:25:56
oh I like there's a there's this classic
00:25:59
but before you get to Goat pass and you
00:26:01
forget how long it is and you're like
00:26:03
where is the stupid heart and then all
00:26:06
of a sudden it appears you're like oh
00:26:07
thank God for that yeah then the river
00:26:09
stones at the end they seem to go on for
00:26:10
days or by then your legs are just so
00:26:14
sore yeah and so you're running along
00:26:16
the riverbed and you're just like you
00:26:18
get the amount of times that I get the
00:26:19
drunk legs and you just fall over you're
00:26:22
like whoops you know but it is a
00:26:24
beautiful experience so yeah and then
00:26:27
funnily enough I was supposed to be
00:26:28
doing the Queenstown Marathon which was
00:26:31
at the time of us recording this was
00:26:33
going to be this weekend because I was
00:26:35
doing it to raise money for the catwalk
00:26:37
spinal trust cool but that's again being
00:26:39
pushed out to November yeah so because
00:26:42
you did it at the time I record doing
00:26:43
this you do you just like farted out a
00:26:45
half marathon yesterday is that just
00:26:47
because you didn't want the training to
00:26:48
go to waste for Queenstown um or you
00:26:50
just always I just half marathon well I
00:26:55
actually yeah half marathon fit I think
00:26:58
is a good place to be so a nice couple
00:27:00
hours out on the weekend is it I reckon
00:27:03
as an idea it's a fun distance yeah like
00:27:06
two hours I like a good two hour run
00:27:09
um so I saw that it was on and I'd never
00:27:11
actually been out to Mirai Thai and it
00:27:13
was absolutely beautiful so I was like
00:27:15
yeah let's just do that so I do I want
00:27:17
to keep Coast to Coast Fitness as as a
00:27:21
whole nother sort of level
00:27:23
um but I kind of want to keep you can't
00:27:25
I I don't need to keep that for months
00:27:28
you should probably shouldn't as someone
00:27:30
that does it as a bit of a weekend
00:27:31
warrior yeah but
00:27:33
um definitely loving being really fit
00:27:36
love it you know that's great or that
00:27:38
feeling of having it like a long run
00:27:39
like a two-hour run and that sauna's hit
00:27:41
afterwards it's the most incredible
00:27:42
feeling eh yeah so much
00:27:43
self-satisfaction mind you I must say
00:27:45
the old legs yesterday because it was
00:27:49
um I've been doing a lot on the road and
00:27:51
a lot of it was on the road it was like
00:27:52
oh what's happening to my whatever
00:27:54
the things on my side are
00:27:56
flexors or whatever it was like oh but
00:27:58
it was good you know and and
00:28:00
um I'll just sort of keep yeah keep yeah
00:28:02
keep the legs moving eh yeah oh good for
00:28:04
you
00:28:05
um can we go right back we'll go right
00:28:07
back to so you you leave school you go
00:28:09
to journalism why did you want to be a
00:28:10
journalist
00:28:12
um what was your idea like how did you
00:28:14
say like your 20s or your 30s playing
00:28:16
out back then so sort of in the last
00:28:19
couple of years of high school I decided
00:28:21
that I wanted to be like a a war
00:28:23
correspondent
00:28:25
we wouldn't want to go and do that now
00:28:27
but I would well well maybe what you
00:28:29
wish for yeah yeah but I didn't know
00:28:31
things I was like I would like to travel
00:28:33
the world I was I pretty much was like
00:28:34
that I'd like to
00:28:36
um go and report on war but I'd also
00:28:38
like to like Mike McRoberts yesterday
00:28:41
in front of the hotel yeah yeah very
00:28:43
much like Mike and I thought I'd love to
00:28:46
travel the world and be a journalist and
00:28:48
so that was obviously like radio and
00:28:51
then I we actually had a really good
00:28:54
careers advisor at high school and she
00:28:56
sort of said oh look there's a few
00:28:57
there's a few little options here and
00:28:58
she was like I think you should go to
00:29:00
university though I think and she was
00:29:01
great advice she was like I think you
00:29:03
should go to university you strike me as
00:29:04
the type of person that would really
00:29:05
enjoy something like that get a bit
00:29:07
worldly wise and then sort of see if
00:29:10
that's still what you wanted to do and
00:29:11
that that is what I did I went to
00:29:12
Canterbury
00:29:14
um I did a um
00:29:15
a political science and communications
00:29:18
degree and then my fourth year was a
00:29:21
graduate postgraduate diploma in
00:29:23
journalism with Jim Tully so that yeah
00:29:25
four years at Canterbury great
00:29:28
um and then and then yeah then went into
00:29:31
journalism right and you while you're
00:29:32
doing this you're in the um the Army as
00:29:34
well in the territorials so did you want
00:29:36
to go to Ward to five or to report I'm
00:29:38
confused
00:29:40
multitasking right here we go I will
00:29:43
Crossing live don't worry I got this
00:29:46
I've got this you know well the Army
00:29:49
story is actually quite funny because
00:29:50
when I was in seventh form I'm trying to
00:29:51
keep when I was in seventh form the army
00:29:54
recruiters came to school and they were
00:29:56
like we're having a week out at Burnham
00:29:58
military camp and it's really fun and
00:30:00
you know we'd like people to come and I
00:30:02
was like oh yeah so it's like a fun
00:30:04
thing to do so it was like in the July
00:30:05
school holidays and I remember and it
00:30:08
was like there were so many elements to
00:30:10
it that were everything you can imagine
00:30:11
in the in the movies like getting yelled
00:30:13
at crawling through mud I was like this
00:30:15
is awesome like this is great like you
00:30:18
know and so then at the end of that they
00:30:20
were like we think you would make a
00:30:22
great officer and I was like
00:30:25
oh
00:30:26
really and so then they gave me like
00:30:28
gave me all this information and then I
00:30:30
was like I've never thought of that and
00:30:31
then of course they had different
00:30:33
scholarships that you could do with
00:30:35
University and I was like I could pay
00:30:37
for University and it was like oh gosh
00:30:39
so I get in the car Mum and Dad pick me
00:30:41
up and I'm like mum I'm thinking of
00:30:42
joining the Army and they were like oh
00:30:44
what this was not supposed to happen but
00:30:47
I did and I went along a few months
00:30:49
later and I did the what's called an
00:30:50
officer selection board and so they
00:30:54
every year I'm not probably are still
00:30:56
the same every year they pick
00:30:58
60 odd people a year to be offered to
00:31:03
train to be officers and then
00:31:05
you go to waiodu and do your basic
00:31:08
training so I did that so I got in I got
00:31:10
accepted into this like officer
00:31:12
selection board thing and then January
00:31:14
of
00:31:16
she was back in 04 2004 and I went away
00:31:20
and did two and a half months basic
00:31:23
training before uni started and became
00:31:25
an all and then graduated then as an
00:31:27
officer now the funny thing being my my
00:31:30
seventh form grades weren't good enough
00:31:32
to get the get the scholarships so I
00:31:34
didn't get the scholarship but I was
00:31:36
like at that point I was like oh this is
00:31:37
great fun anyway what a good experience
00:31:39
yeah so
00:31:41
um and then I just was so I was in the
00:31:43
territorials for four years I ended up
00:31:46
changing to just
00:31:48
um not not carrying on with being an
00:31:50
officer but I went and switched over and
00:31:53
became a private and then in the first
00:31:55
year I went to Brunei which is near the
00:31:58
Borneo jungle and did like a jungle
00:32:01
exercise and that was all in first year
00:32:03
uni and then I did three more years
00:32:05
before and then I moved up here and when
00:32:07
I moved up here to become a journalist I
00:32:10
I decided that I couldn't give it the
00:32:13
commitment that that I felt it needed so
00:32:16
I I I left which I was totally fine with
00:32:19
it was like no I can't give that the
00:32:21
priority I really need to focus on my
00:32:23
career right now
00:32:24
um so it was like that had to give also
00:32:26
yeah the media lifestyle is way more fun
00:32:27
isn't it no one's shouting at you at 5am
00:32:30
unless you're still at a party and high
00:32:31
on code it's not entirely true because
00:32:33
if anyone remembers Kevin hurcock my
00:32:35
first boss he would shout at you at five
00:32:37
a.m there's been a car crash I need you
00:32:40
to go you know so so you say you're a
00:32:43
journalist at radio live you do a bit of
00:32:45
TV stuff then you end up on breakfast uh
00:32:47
which I I feel I can't imagine you doing
00:32:49
anything other than yourself do you know
00:32:51
what I mean like I can't imagine I can't
00:32:52
imagine you necessarily like being like
00:32:54
a straight like news presenter just
00:32:56
sticking to a script not not injecting
00:32:58
your own authenticity into it but I
00:33:01
don't know I'm sure you could do it well
00:33:02
you can do anything you want to do well
00:33:03
but I feel like yeah something with a
00:33:05
bit more editorial definitely suits you
00:33:07
well it's funny because those jobs
00:33:10
um like the radio jobs at radio live and
00:33:13
News Talk were very much like very much
00:33:15
hard news and then I went overseas so I
00:33:18
went and did my OE for just over a year
00:33:20
and then I came back and worked on Q a
00:33:22
as a producer and then then I got a job
00:33:25
on seven sharp and so that was the first
00:33:27
year of seven sharp it was also the year
00:33:29
that I got an absolute begging by
00:33:32
everyone who wanted to offer their
00:33:33
opinion about it who was on it was that
00:33:35
Mike husky no was that uh Greg Boyd
00:33:37
Allison Moore and Jesse Mulligan yeah
00:33:40
and so we were all on the show and
00:33:44
um that was I guess the first time I I
00:33:47
would I think it would be fair to say in
00:33:49
New Zealand sort of news in the news and
00:33:51
current affairs space that something was
00:33:54
of that here's some personality behind
00:33:57
that kind of and and I think it was
00:34:00
quite jarring for people that that was
00:34:02
on at seven o'clock it had you know
00:34:04
Campbell live and close up and for for
00:34:06
you know in hot in the whole homes
00:34:07
before that so you'd had all of this
00:34:09
hard news and then here was us trying to
00:34:13
make things a bit lighter and it's
00:34:15
ironically sort of in hindsight paved
00:34:17
the way for the project yes absolutely
00:34:19
so now I think that there is probably
00:34:21
quite a nice balance of that and so that
00:34:23
was when
00:34:24
that was when some of the feedback
00:34:26
towards me was that's actually what
00:34:29
you're quite good at is just injecting
00:34:31
your personality in with in and around
00:34:34
the talent that you work with and that
00:34:36
was sort of really where it was born
00:34:37
probably on seven sharp how did you
00:34:40
handle at the time some I'm guessing you
00:34:42
like mid-20s at the time but we must
00:34:44
have been 26 I guess or so yeah how did
00:34:46
you handle like the trolling and the
00:34:48
negativity because I know I know that
00:34:49
can be bad online but in TV in
00:34:50
particular TV people seem to be the
00:34:52
brunt of it yeah I've since I've seen
00:34:54
some horrible stuff about you online
00:34:55
yeah pretty it was pretty wild and you
00:34:58
were quite I just always found it quite
00:35:01
fascinating
00:35:02
that people could be so mean as adults
00:35:05
like I you know you remember you know
00:35:08
arguments and and and like you know the
00:35:11
high school
00:35:12
stuff that went on you know with when
00:35:14
you were teenagers
00:35:16
but you kind of would think have we not
00:35:18
all outgrown that kind of behavior in
00:35:22
the world so I I I will admit there was
00:35:24
stuff that was really mean
00:35:26
and and you would absolutely take it to
00:35:29
heart what what like do you want to go
00:35:30
there well you don't particularly do you
00:35:32
know what do you know the the there was
00:35:34
a common theme for a while
00:35:36
which was always quite like I can laugh
00:35:39
about it now and actually as it would
00:35:41
sort of happen you were like
00:35:43
there was a really underarching theme
00:35:45
that I looked like a man so there were a
00:35:48
lot of a lot of men I must say as well
00:35:50
that were like would comment on me
00:35:52
looking like a man and it was like
00:35:55
okay all right well that's cool but why
00:35:58
do you feel the need to type it like
00:36:00
what what you know and um actually this
00:36:03
one is funny because this was really
00:36:05
creative and I will always remember I
00:36:07
will always remember it one was she
00:36:10
looks like Christian Cullen with a wig
00:36:12
and Lippy on
00:36:20
separated at Birth it might find a weird
00:36:22
text yeah whatever so that I think I
00:36:26
actually remember it probably at that
00:36:27
point that's when I went okay this is
00:36:29
ridiculous like you cannot take this
00:36:31
seriously and so here's a little
00:36:34
Yan I um remember when I was working on
00:36:38
breakfast I think breakfast was when it
00:36:39
was at its worst and people are grumpier
00:36:43
in the morning oh man honestly and so
00:36:45
there's there was this one guy who would
00:36:47
always on the breakfast page he would
00:36:50
tag always tag his friends and and say
00:36:53
just stuff like
00:36:55
um or looks like his five o'clock
00:36:57
Shadow's about to sprout and all this
00:36:59
kind of like almost every day and
00:37:01
you're like dude what what's up with
00:37:03
that like on a fake account or his own
00:37:05
no no no no so here's the thing
00:37:07
so I had a friend of mine had done
00:37:11
something similar in terms of calling
00:37:13
out like I I would quite often sometimes
00:37:15
respond like respond
00:37:17
um because but so many times you'd see
00:37:19
someone being mean to you and you'd go
00:37:20
and look at their profile picture and
00:37:21
there's them with some kids or something
00:37:23
and you're like mate what if your kids
00:37:25
came home from high school crying
00:37:27
because someone someone has been as
00:37:29
horrible as you've been to me so this
00:37:30
one particular guy I thought right you
00:37:32
know what no this is not happening so I
00:37:34
went on to his Facebook page I could he
00:37:36
had where he worked
00:37:38
so I rung the number I Rangers I rang
00:37:42
the work number I'm just gonna get the
00:37:44
popcorn yeah and I and and A man
00:37:46
answered the phone and I said um hi
00:37:48
there I'm just wondering is this the
00:37:50
employment of XYZ and this guy was sort
00:37:53
of like
00:37:54
um yes and I was like oh cool look my
00:37:57
name is Brody Kane I'm calling from The
00:37:58
Breakfast show but work didn't know I
00:38:00
was doing this either by the way I'm
00:38:02
calling from The Breakfast show
00:38:04
um I'm just wondering whether your
00:38:05
workplace has a online bullying policy
00:38:08
and he was like oh sorry you know come
00:38:11
again I just completely put him on the
00:38:12
spot oh look just you've got a an
00:38:15
employee by the name of XYZ
00:38:18
um and he is relentlessly bullying me
00:38:21
online
00:38:23
um on our breakfast page and
00:38:25
it's not okay and so I'm just curious as
00:38:28
to whether you've got a policy about
00:38:29
your employees and their behavior in the
00:38:31
online world and so bless this guy he
00:38:36
was very sort of
00:38:37
um
00:38:38
or I'm not sure what breakfast is I
00:38:40
don't know what you I'll have to can you
00:38:43
um I'll have to have a look into it so
00:38:44
he was quite sort of you know then
00:38:46
anyway bugger me days he Rings back this
00:38:48
guy Rings back half an hour an hour
00:38:50
later and he's like hi Brody
00:38:53
my name is XYZ I am the father of XYZ
00:38:57
and I am so I know exactly who you are
00:39:00
in fact I really like you and watch you
00:39:02
on breakfast anymore every morning and I
00:39:05
was I'm sorry that I wasn't like
00:39:06
straight up with you to start with but I
00:39:09
was so shocked and I just didn't know
00:39:11
what to do about that how old's the son
00:39:12
like he was like 22. right right and he
00:39:16
was like I'm so sorry
00:39:18
um I'm so disappointed my son works for
00:39:21
me
00:39:22
um part-time he's studying to be an
00:39:24
engineer at University and I just had
00:39:26
never known the side to him and so that
00:39:29
was you know I went yeah I said well
00:39:31
that's interesting so then um we had a
00:39:33
great chat and he's like I I'm he's in a
00:39:36
lot of trouble and I hope you don't mind
00:39:37
but I'm going to get him to ring you and
00:39:38
apologize and I was like Bring it on
00:39:41
Bring it on 22 years old grown ass man
00:39:44
still being told off by his dad I know
00:39:46
spectacular I know and so this young
00:39:47
chat rang me and I just said to him I
00:39:50
said look I actually don't hear what you
00:39:54
think of me you can think I'm ugly you
00:39:57
can think I look like I'm getting five
00:39:58
o'clock shadow I don't actually give a
00:40:00
but what makes it okay for you to
00:40:04
go on to my work page and put that up
00:40:07
there like why is that okay and you know
00:40:09
and I said and furthermore I've gone on
00:40:11
to your Facebook page you've got a
00:40:13
lovely looking girlfriend can you
00:40:15
imagine if she came home in some ass
00:40:17
wipe said what you've said about me to
00:40:19
her on the street or something so it was
00:40:21
quite like you tore him a new one yeah
00:40:23
because and but I wanted to do it in
00:40:25
that kind of like you know just wake up
00:40:27
mate like break it down to a million
00:40:29
yeah if how yeah how you did it with the
00:40:31
girlfriend how would you feel if she
00:40:33
came home I think that's a good way of
00:40:34
breaking it down and so again I I have
00:40:37
learned over the years that um not
00:40:41
everyone not everyone has to like you
00:40:43
like I don't there's days where I'm like
00:40:45
shut up lady talking about you know but
00:40:47
you have to realize that in a job of a
00:40:51
uh in the in the public space not
00:40:54
everyone is going to like you and that's
00:40:55
actually okay so yeah so I think when
00:40:57
you learn that that you have a that I
00:40:59
have a style and a way that will be
00:41:02
abrasive or too much for other people
00:41:04
that's absolutely fine absolutely fine
00:41:07
um as long as you um are aware of that
00:41:10
and and you're not being a as
00:41:13
well
00:41:14
um then that's fine but this whole like
00:41:17
everyone thinking that they should have
00:41:19
an opinion on everyone it's like leave
00:41:21
it at home you know like I'll sit at
00:41:22
home and watch television and yeah
00:41:25
you're with your mates and you're like
00:41:26
gosh what's what's bloody Wendy Petru it
00:41:29
actually that's unfair that's unfair
00:41:31
because Wendy Petrie is on fire every
00:41:33
single night of the week Hillary on the
00:41:34
other hand with their ample cleavage
00:41:36
most nights yeah I mean right so what is
00:41:39
weather what is with everyone thinking
00:41:41
that they should talk online and go I
00:41:45
mean you know it's all a whole like free
00:41:48
speech yarn and it's like well we all
00:41:49
didn't have keyboards before and it was
00:41:51
a much peace more peaceful place but so
00:41:53
I just I always find that fascinating
00:41:55
that it's like what gives you the right
00:41:57
to call someone something mean as an
00:42:01
adult
00:42:02
you know I I agree with you 100 so like
00:42:05
hosking for example Mike asking
00:42:07
polarizing and that's fine you can you
00:42:09
can say can't stand the bloke or I love
00:42:11
the bloke that's fine personal attacks
00:42:12
not fine and and they're funny who are
00:42:15
these people well the funny thing is as
00:42:16
well is our brains are wired so if 99
00:42:19
people say to you you look really nice
00:42:22
today or you're a good person and
00:42:24
one person says something in an
00:42:26
way why do you always focus on the one
00:42:29
like why do we always go oh man you know
00:42:32
Linda on Instagram is really mean to me
00:42:34
today or like you know so we just have
00:42:36
to learn more that you just yeah you
00:42:38
just have to sort of put it into
00:42:39
perspective and just go okay that says
00:42:42
more but I I I I think that there does
00:42:45
need to be more done to kind of like
00:42:47
yeah cut that trolling stuff out because
00:42:50
it's just oh it's just a bit lame oh it
00:42:53
is it's awful yeah it's unacceptable
00:42:55
actually yeah yeah I thought I was
00:42:58
always yeah maybe that's just human
00:43:00
nature that you're drawn towards the
00:43:01
negative comment and the Sea of positive
00:43:03
comments I thought with me I'm I'm like
00:43:05
an approval junkie I'm obsessed with
00:43:07
being liked so yeah so yeah we get nice
00:43:10
texts all morning and then there'll be
00:43:11
one mean one and I'd I'd like Google the
00:43:14
number and yeah and look them up oh his
00:43:16
profile pitches a car yes it's always a
00:43:20
car it's always a car and then I think
00:43:22
I've spent 10 minutes of my day just
00:43:24
stewing on this pointless text yeah yeah
00:43:26
I know I don't know why we do that but
00:43:29
you need we need to learn more not to do
00:43:31
that and I think that that like
00:43:33
um going back to I guess social media
00:43:34
and me doing a lot of what I do on on my
00:43:37
in my own Instagram page is that you
00:43:40
know you can say so if someone comes in
00:43:42
and says I don't agree with you or I
00:43:44
don't like what you've said it's like do
00:43:46
you know what's amazing you can hit one
00:43:47
button and it says unfollow and and you
00:43:50
you don't you don't have to see it you
00:43:52
don't have to you know we why do we feel
00:43:55
like we have to offer up everything that
00:43:58
we feel about another particular person
00:44:00
you know so
00:44:02
um I think that you can you know sorry
00:44:04
I'm not just I'm not just doing this
00:44:05
content for you lady yeah yeah there's
00:44:07
45 000 other people that don't mind it
00:44:09
but and so but this one it goes back to
00:44:12
it goes we can't all like each other not
00:44:13
Everyone likes each other so and you can
00:44:16
you can't please everyone yeah and and
00:44:18
you have to be okay with that but that's
00:44:19
the worst mistake you can make I think
00:44:21
trying to be all things to all people
00:44:22
yeah oh gosh I'd be exhausted yeah but
00:44:25
do you think with that stuff
00:44:27
um do you think the Army helped or do
00:44:28
you think it's like your upbringing you
00:44:30
know your parents obviously to like
00:44:31
tough bastards your mum yeah with a
00:44:33
whether you're swimming and your dad
00:44:34
with his long runs do you know what I
00:44:36
think that um yeah I've I have they both
00:44:40
have taught me some pretty wonderful
00:44:42
life lessons
00:44:44
um in terms of like being good and and I
00:44:48
guess accountable
00:44:49
um mum they both actually were very much
00:44:52
like you have to take responsibility for
00:44:55
your own actions and I I actually used
00:44:57
this example the other week when some of
00:45:00
the bad stuff was kicking off down at
00:45:02
the protests from Wellington and it was
00:45:04
a lesson that I learned from my parents
00:45:05
when I was a teenager which is
00:45:07
um about your behaviors and the behavior
00:45:10
of those around you and so like there
00:45:13
was a like a a year no I don't even
00:45:15
think it was about a year but there was
00:45:16
a year or so that I was I don't know if
00:45:18
you'd say off the rails but yeah
00:45:19
probably a little bit off the rails and
00:45:21
so at one point I was in like a cabin at
00:45:24
the camping ground and the people I was
00:45:25
with trashed the camp the cabin and I
00:45:28
didn't actually understand people you
00:45:29
were with yeah
00:45:31
I got I actually got in so much trouble
00:45:34
I actually think I might have gotten
00:45:35
more trouble than the people I was with
00:45:37
because they were like it doesn't matter
00:45:38
that you didn't do anything you were
00:45:39
complicit and so I those kind of like my
00:45:42
my parents were quite strict like I did
00:45:45
I did like sneak to a few places but
00:45:47
like if if I was going to a party they
00:45:49
were like well who's the parent and
00:45:51
what's their number and it was like it's
00:45:53
down at the river
00:45:54
like there is no parents but you know
00:45:57
like so so but so so those kind of
00:46:00
lessons were were pretty early on and
00:46:03
then I guess another thing that I've
00:46:05
watched in my mum's career is she has
00:46:07
always been
00:46:09
now this is interesting because the
00:46:12
words that you use are like you know
00:46:13
strong we use that word outspoken you
00:46:16
know says what she believes sticks up
00:46:18
for what she believes in now
00:46:20
particularly in her generation she sort
00:46:22
of navigated that through that whole I
00:46:24
guess the patriarchy where it's like
00:46:26
stroppy bossy who's this woman you know
00:46:29
and so I have watched her evolve when
00:46:33
having always been that woman having
00:46:36
always stuck up for herself or people
00:46:39
um and and sometimes that meant that her
00:46:42
reputation was as such like a ball
00:46:44
breaker yeah yeah and so I've always
00:46:48
looked up to that and I love that we are
00:46:50
slowly and eventually getting to a space
00:46:52
where
00:46:53
oh my God it's okay for women to be
00:46:56
strong and on the same level as men and
00:46:58
you know let's not call them stroppy or
00:47:01
Divas or any of that anymore you
00:47:03
know so
00:47:04
um I've I've often looked at that and
00:47:06
and want to sort of like carry on that
00:47:08
kind of Legacy yeah God they've done it
00:47:12
they've done a great job either and uh
00:47:13
to see the relationship with your mum
00:47:15
now yeah because my um because I was
00:47:17
from a Catholic Family so they were very
00:47:19
very strict and I feel like that sort of
00:47:20
hindered the relationship I have with my
00:47:22
mum now because I I kept so much from
00:47:24
here yeah
00:47:25
um so now it's like I'll still keep that
00:47:27
from her because we just don't have that
00:47:29
sort of open communication but how so
00:47:32
you've got that with your mum even
00:47:33
though she was super strict yeah and so
00:47:35
it wasn't yeah it wasn't like we've all
00:47:37
they've been amazing in terms of like
00:47:39
they've just you know when I didn't have
00:47:42
my license but I was swim training mum's
00:47:44
up at five dad's up at five driving you
00:47:46
to swim to the pool you know like
00:47:48
they've always and you you definitely I
00:47:51
I think it was probably lucky that it
00:47:52
wasn't that long that you you know
00:47:55
they're automatic teenage like oh get
00:47:57
out you know because then I realized how
00:47:59
how lucky I how lucky I was to have
00:48:02
parents that would come to every surf
00:48:04
life saving competition be there for
00:48:05
everything be there for you know all
00:48:07
that stuff
00:48:08
um but actually I think um probably our
00:48:12
relationship grew even
00:48:15
um stronger uh probably in the more
00:48:17
recently years where Mum and Dad split
00:48:19
which is actually still relatively
00:48:21
recent and so that's okay yeah they're
00:48:25
good good time heals time does heal
00:48:27
there's another one for you know for the
00:48:28
quiet book time does here so there was
00:48:30
that was a very tricky space for
00:48:33
everyone
00:48:34
um but I think that that was sort of um
00:48:35
where I we started spending a lot more
00:48:38
time together and
00:48:40
um and and she's just cool man she she's
00:48:43
so fun and so funny and we're very
00:48:45
similar but I think and and so you know
00:48:48
we can we can bash heads but I actually
00:48:50
think that that's diminishing over time
00:48:52
and I think you know we spent all of
00:48:55
that very first lockdown together and
00:48:57
then I actually moved
00:48:59
um moved out to live with her at waikaku
00:49:03
Beach last year and we lived together
00:49:04
for for a year and we really actually
00:49:08
hardly fought like we could we could
00:49:10
always tell each other's Vibe if it's
00:49:11
like I think she might need a bit of
00:49:13
space you know like and we did it we
00:49:15
always had a timeout and lockdown it was
00:49:17
like if you pulled that it was like get
00:49:18
get out time out time out but um I I
00:49:22
think that
00:49:23
um we have got to a place where we know
00:49:27
when yeah like it's funny because you
00:49:30
always think about your parents and you
00:49:31
think like your parents might tell you
00:49:33
something like the man would always
00:49:35
laugh back in in the teenage years where
00:49:37
she would give me Surf life-saving and
00:49:39
advice the last people you wanted advice
00:49:41
from was your parents so she could say
00:49:43
hey the drift is going that way you need
00:49:46
to run 100 meters up the beach and I'd
00:49:48
be like whatever mum and then some like
00:49:50
you know coach would be like right guys
00:49:51
and you're like right I better do that
00:49:53
you know but now I feel like I listen to
00:49:55
her more and sometimes like I feel like
00:49:58
there's a respect that comes with age
00:49:59
and that they actually quite do know
00:50:01
what they're talking about yeah yeah
00:50:02
you're like oh they actually like she's
00:50:03
quite smart and sometimes I'll say to
00:50:05
her look I'm I'm not looking for
00:50:08
criticism today you know like because
00:50:10
you know particularly in the last couple
00:50:12
years you know working for myself and
00:50:13
finding my feet and figuring it out
00:50:15
sometimes you need advice and then some
00:50:18
days you actually just need people to
00:50:20
listen and so I'll sometimes I'll go
00:50:22
look I I don't care if I'm actually
00:50:24
right or wrong today I I just need to
00:50:27
get this off my chest and maybe in two
00:50:29
or three days time I might be ready for
00:50:30
for some home truths but I'm not ready
00:50:32
for it today so I feel like we've got to
00:50:35
quite a good space like with that yeah
00:50:37
you you have had some stuff going
00:50:39
on in the last couple of years how's um
00:50:41
how's your mental health been is your
00:50:43
mental health all good yeah you seem
00:50:45
like you seem resilient and strong yeah
00:50:47
like it's you had any issues if it was
00:50:50
ever going to flare up like the
00:50:51
redundancy thing at the beginning of
00:50:52
lockdown that would flare up and yeah I
00:50:54
think that around that because that just
00:50:56
that happened the redundancy from um the
00:50:59
hits in Christchurch was like quite out
00:51:01
of the blue like it was like oh oh oh oh
00:51:04
sh okay all right okay okay yeah so yeah
00:51:07
so you're doing the the breakfast radio
00:51:09
show on the hits in Christchurch yeah
00:51:10
and then um they they they made a whole
00:51:12
lot of um shows outside of Auckland
00:51:13
redundant yeah pipe and John and Ben
00:51:15
yeah yeah so so you hate John on being
00:51:17
now oh there's such no I can't hate him
00:51:20
because they're alive yeah and that's
00:51:21
what you understand really really
00:51:23
quickly and and and actually the best
00:51:26
advice I got was really immediately
00:51:29
um after after the redundancy which was
00:51:32
don't take it personally you cannot take
00:51:35
redundancy personally I think I was
00:51:37
really relieved to get that information
00:51:39
well I also feel like um
00:51:41
it's easy to take it this way the the
00:51:43
cost cutting by getting rid of local
00:51:45
shares which is a bad thing for the
00:51:46
future of the industry because it means
00:51:48
there's a whole lot less shows around
00:51:49
but anyway that's a sidebar but I feel
00:51:51
like it's probably easier to take
00:51:53
being made redundant because they're
00:51:55
saving money rather than getting to an
00:51:57
end of a bad survey period and let them
00:51:59
like sorry just nobody likes you yeah
00:52:01
yeah well for the record we were growing
00:52:03
but anyway that's you know it doesn't it
00:52:05
doesn't matter because yeah you're you
00:52:08
are uh Cog in a wheel and you're part of
00:52:10
a plan and then all of a sudden if that
00:52:12
plan changes you might be collateral and
00:52:14
it's a it's a ruthless industry it is a
00:52:16
ruthless industry that's not for the
00:52:18
faint is it no and and one day you're in
00:52:20
the next day you're out but I think that
00:52:22
so so in the immediate aftermath of that
00:52:25
then we we were you know covert hit
00:52:28
really quickly and then we were in
00:52:31
lockdown and then you were watching all
00:52:33
these other media organizations your
00:52:35
magazines making you know like yeah
00:52:37
Bower shutting down radio sport all of
00:52:39
that stuff and I was just like holy
00:52:42
man like what am I gonna do like No
00:52:44
One's Gonna give up their job anywhere
00:52:46
so so I must say that was probably
00:52:49
I I I I I don't like to throw around the
00:52:52
terms but I definitely think that there
00:52:54
was a level of anxiety that I had never
00:52:57
felt ever you never well that's
00:53:00
understandable also I suppose you part
00:53:02
of you I don't know I'm putting your
00:53:03
words in your mouth here but part of you
00:53:04
is probably like well I'll do some
00:53:05
public speaking but then yeah yeah no
00:53:07
one's allowed to leave the house
00:53:09
yeah yeah well you know and you're like
00:53:10
and you're stuck and you are stuck at
00:53:12
home so the first couple of weeks of
00:53:13
lockdown I was all over the place I was
00:53:17
like oh gosh and then I just sort of
00:53:19
like tried to like relax and just figure
00:53:21
out you know what I wanted to do and so
00:53:23
yeah it was it was it was a weird time
00:53:26
and but then once I sort of was like
00:53:29
okay just what are you gonna do what are
00:53:31
you gonna do what are you gonna do what
00:53:31
are you gonna do well you're gonna do
00:53:33
the podcast yeah yeah girls will you
00:53:35
know that's a that's a good thing to
00:53:37
focus on for the next few you know let's
00:53:39
get that off yeah yeah yeah
00:53:41
um and then
00:53:43
then I was like well I've always wanted
00:53:45
to work for myself and I've always seen
00:53:46
people that have like that are
00:53:48
essentially like contract themselves or
00:53:50
do this gig and then they'll go and do
00:53:52
that project and I'm like that's always
00:53:54
seemed really cool to me so I thought
00:53:56
well why don't you just set up your own
00:53:58
little business and then make make the
00:54:00
rest up as you go along which is
00:54:02
essentially what I've done and that's
00:54:03
Brody Kane media yeah very original name
00:54:06
yeah I know it's a good name your name
00:54:08
is your brand I'm gonna I was gonna come
00:54:10
up with something like whiz bang like we
00:54:12
did think for a while like hurricane
00:54:14
media because I am a bit of a hurricane
00:54:16
but then it was like no no just your
00:54:18
name your name's good so yeah yeah
00:54:19
you've got a good reputation you may as
00:54:21
well like uh own it and you know
00:54:23
capitalize on it as much as you can yeah
00:54:24
and um how long was it before because I
00:54:27
feel I feel like I'm picking your brains
00:54:28
here because I feel like I'm where you
00:54:30
were two years ago yeah how long was it
00:54:32
before you got your first dollar coming
00:54:34
in
00:54:35
um
00:54:36
well months weeks well I mean if you
00:54:41
consider the wage subsidy your first
00:54:42
paycheck
00:54:45
your first proper like payment because
00:54:47
that must have been incredibly
00:54:48
satisfying well luckily enough I was um
00:54:51
already doing
00:54:53
um I already had a
00:54:54
relationships
00:54:56
um within some like within social media
00:54:58
activity so there there are a couple of
00:55:00
brands that were prepared to support you
00:55:02
so there are a couple of things that
00:55:03
were that businesses were doing during
00:55:05
lockdown and stuff like I I actually no
00:55:08
that was what I did I I did a gig with
00:55:10
new world where I made my um homemade
00:55:13
they're so good my homemade lockdown
00:55:15
beans
00:55:16
you like homemade beans that you have
00:55:18
with brunch delicious so you're still
00:55:19
under contract no no no I'm not actually
00:55:22
no I'm not but I remember making those
00:55:24
beans for new wheels that was what I did
00:55:26
it was a paycheck that I bought in
00:55:28
lockdown so um but yeah and so you will
00:55:32
learn very quickly that you might have a
00:55:34
really stonking month and you're like
00:55:36
Make It Rain and then you won't get paid
00:55:38
for three months and you're like whoa
00:55:41
you know like especially over Christmas
00:55:44
New Year's and especially again with the
00:55:47
red light setting and yeah all the
00:55:48
events and that stopping again so it is
00:55:51
tough but oh my God it's sitting your
00:55:53
own setting your own hours marching to
00:55:56
the beat of your own drum is the most
00:55:59
amazing experience ever liar is so
00:56:02
awesome and then you can choose who you
00:56:04
want to work with and you have a lot of
00:56:07
creative freedom and so it becomes even
00:56:09
more passionate
00:56:11
um but what I would say is
00:56:13
have a really have a really good brains
00:56:15
trust around you and whether it's like a
00:56:18
best mate and a mentor and a someone
00:56:20
else that you can meet with that will
00:56:23
have the hard conversations with you
00:56:24
because you can go I really like the
00:56:26
idea of this podcast and you can enjoy
00:56:28
doing it and and you go I'm really proud
00:56:31
of this you also need people to be like
00:56:33
hey um have you thought about this or if
00:56:35
you know and that are that yeah that you
00:56:38
feel comfortable having that those
00:56:40
people can do tough conversations yeah
00:56:42
who have you got on yours
00:56:44
um so I've got my my wonderful friend
00:56:46
Braden
00:56:47
um and and and he actually works in
00:56:49
radio and he's amazing he's a smart dude
00:56:51
yeah very smart dude a wonderful friend
00:56:53
of mine Laura Hayden who sort of comes
00:56:55
through on the sort of like marketing
00:56:57
side of things oh she's she's a great
00:56:59
human as well yeah the um the the the
00:57:00
daughter of the uh the light all black
00:57:02
Andy hater yeah she's doing just an epic
00:57:04
human real smart as well she's so she's
00:57:06
part of the brains trust um she won't
00:57:08
yeah no no and then a
00:57:11
a very creative friend a very creative
00:57:13
good friend of mine Monique my mum is
00:57:16
and like quite often we'll we'll chat to
00:57:18
Ali Moore
00:57:20
um and and just so that you're sort of
00:57:22
hearing from people talking to people
00:57:24
about the things that you're doing oh
00:57:27
but like I will also now if there's
00:57:29
anyone you know we are uh very proud you
00:57:32
know new zealanders we don't like to ask
00:57:34
for help but advice that I got early on
00:57:37
in the piece of going out on your own is
00:57:38
to actually ask people for help ask
00:57:40
people like for advice don't be afraid
00:57:42
to do it so I have learned that that is
00:57:45
that is a good thing to do is to tap
00:57:47
into people that you know that might be
00:57:49
more skilled at that and be like hey can
00:57:51
I just pick your brain and that's okay
00:57:53
to do it it's okay to do as well people
00:57:55
people love offering out their time like
00:57:57
you must have had someone go hey I'm
00:58:00
interested in a career in radio can I
00:58:02
meet you for a coffee and you're like
00:58:03
yeah we'll bugger it because you always
00:58:05
remember the one or two people that did
00:58:07
that for you and I and I remember things
00:58:10
that like I remembered Donna Marie lever
00:58:12
and Ellie morte taking me out to teach
00:58:14
me to do piece to cameras and you'll
00:58:15
never like you never forget the time
00:58:18
when they didn't need to yeah yeah and
00:58:20
so if you can if you can play that
00:58:22
forward a bit and and and so and and
00:58:25
understand that other people enjoy doing
00:58:27
that for you so so do that yeah yeah
00:58:30
yeah I'm I'm very well aware of
00:58:32
spreading myself too thin but I like to
00:58:34
help people where I can yeah I think
00:58:35
it's good yeah no you don't want to get
00:58:37
those Karma points yeah totally yeah
00:58:40
um there's something something else I
00:58:41
wanted to ask you about when you Google
00:58:42
you there's a 2017 women's day story
00:58:45
about you being on Bumble and being on
00:58:47
Tinder
00:58:48
um and you were saying you were single
00:58:49
for 30 years oh my God how would he know
00:58:51
what are you now 30 35 35 single for 35
00:58:54
years really yeah do you know what's
00:58:56
hilarious that's one of those classic
00:58:58
things that happens where you're sitting
00:59:00
doing that was a woman was it a woman's
00:59:02
day what did you say women's day I think
00:59:04
yeah yeah so you're sitting there the
00:59:05
article's supposed to be about the new
00:59:07
breakfast show or something right and
00:59:09
you're sitting there with the tvnz
00:59:10
publicist and here we go and then like
00:59:12
literally a they ask something and then
00:59:16
the interview's just about to finish
00:59:18
you've just really behaved yourself and
00:59:20
been like this is great and what a great
00:59:22
opportunity and ah all the challenges
00:59:24
and at the end literally I was like yeah
00:59:27
no no no boyfriend on the scene bloody
00:59:30
hell been single for 30 years
00:59:32
that's the headline headline that's the
00:59:34
clickbait then that's the The Herald
00:59:36
then it's like Brody Kane quote I've
00:59:39
been single for 30 years well of course
00:59:40
I have because for I was a baby for two
00:59:43
infant for like you know you're like oh
00:59:46
my God and so yeah those years come on I
00:59:49
know I know give me some reduction yeah
00:59:52
so have you never been in love
00:59:56
everyone ready for the violin I've never
00:59:58
been in love I've never been in love
01:00:01
um I did I did quite like a fella once
01:00:04
um like around uni but I've never I've
01:00:06
I've never had a proper boyfriend I
01:00:09
could actually say that I've never had a
01:00:10
proper boyfriend
01:00:11
I don't know why what's what's your
01:00:13
longest relationship what do you reckon
01:00:14
oh God that again like a few months like
01:00:16
maybe three months yeah yeah but that
01:00:18
was ages ago it was so long ago right
01:00:22
and it shouldn't it's not a big deal and
01:00:24
it shouldn't be a big deal I've met
01:00:26
gentlemen yeah just for good times not
01:00:28
long time yeah I've got a bloody thesis
01:00:32
in there you know that's fine that's
01:00:33
that's well taken care of that you know
01:00:36
the 20s were a great but yeah
01:00:37
there's um there's a it's just I think
01:00:40
it's just hard when you're a woman with
01:00:41
your biological clock and things and the
01:00:43
you know the fertility thing like are
01:00:45
you have you frozen your eggs do you
01:00:47
want to have kids one day have you
01:00:49
they've thought about doing that
01:00:51
um it's very expensive and it's it's
01:00:53
it's it's it's dumb that you it's even a
01:00:55
consideration well I think that um
01:00:58
some days I'm like some days I'm like I
01:01:01
absolutely want children and then other
01:01:02
days I'm like but I I think I do I'm I'm
01:01:06
pretty sure I do but then if I was
01:01:09
really honest I think I I still would
01:01:13
like to have a child with someone I love
01:01:15
do you know yeah so like what you had
01:01:18
with your parents yeah yeah so I think
01:01:19
that that store was something I'd like
01:01:22
now if there's a point further down the
01:01:24
track that I go what well I would like
01:01:27
to have a child now I I definitely think
01:01:29
I would do that as irrespective of of
01:01:32
whether there was a man on the scene but
01:01:34
I still think I like that the idea of of
01:01:37
creating a family with a with a partner
01:01:40
yeah someone where there's a genuine
01:01:41
connection yeah yeah and so what do you
01:01:45
look for do you ever type would you say
01:01:46
you got a type
01:01:47
I mean do you know what's quite funny as
01:01:49
I think the longer you've been single
01:01:51
the higher like people might think that
01:01:52
your standards drop they don't they only
01:01:55
give yeah because a lot of people would
01:01:56
make the joke a lot of people would make
01:01:58
the joke all right anything with a pulse
01:02:00
yeah more Discerning and people say to
01:02:03
you oh gosh you must be too picky and I
01:02:05
go you I'm like you're like and you know
01:02:08
why because I'm like you're damn right I
01:02:09
am because I have seen that many you
01:02:12
know people that get married or fall in
01:02:15
love early and then by the time like
01:02:17
they're in their 30s or whatever they
01:02:19
hate each other or you know and it's
01:02:20
like well you know far out good luck to
01:02:24
you so I'm like I'm not I'm not settling
01:02:27
for some loser and unfortunately there's
01:02:30
a lot of losers around no disrespect to
01:02:32
people that aren't losers but there are
01:02:33
a lot of losers around that I've you
01:02:35
know and so the losers realize they're
01:02:37
losers that's the thing I don't know I
01:02:40
don't know for another day yeah and so I
01:02:43
yeah I don't know I I don't I just I
01:02:46
probably think what would what would my
01:02:48
what's my type on paper
01:02:50
um someone that could
01:02:53
can intellectually stimulate me and they
01:02:57
don't have to be a rocket scientist but
01:03:00
you want to be able to have really good
01:03:01
conversation conversations with them
01:03:04
um and then someone is funny and that
01:03:06
someone is caring and respectful that
01:03:09
yeah those things
01:03:11
yeah that doesn't seem like too much of
01:03:13
a checklist with a massive penis no I'm
01:03:15
just kidding there was a joke that was a
01:03:17
joke all sizes are welcome here oh my
01:03:20
God see this is like the woman step this
01:03:22
is the woman's day thing um this is a
01:03:24
woman's day thing anyway oh that's all
01:03:26
right yeah I hope that person comes
01:03:27
you're not lonely though like you were
01:03:28
nah nah the only time I'm lonely is if
01:03:31
you hang over on a Sunday yeah
01:03:35
yeah yeah so not really yeah but I am
01:03:39
gonna I I think that look we can't even
01:03:42
count the past two years with the
01:03:44
pandemic like no one's been able to
01:03:46
surely no one's been able to find
01:03:48
someone there so we write that off but
01:03:51
so we're now having we're having all
01:03:52
clothes the first five years
01:03:57
so but I'm hey and so I've recently
01:04:00
moved back up here and I'm I'm I'm I'm
01:04:02
getting back into the dating scene
01:04:05
I'm I'm mental I'm into it I'm on the
01:04:08
I'm back on the things and I'm just
01:04:10
gonna go at my own pace and see how we
01:04:14
go well you're a great catch however if
01:04:16
you end up with someone they're they're
01:04:18
very lucky they will be I know they're
01:04:20
very lucky
01:04:21
um when you when you Google you one of
01:04:23
the top Google searches is you and Ryan
01:04:24
Bridge from the am show what's going on
01:04:27
there Ryan's he's openly gay isn't he
01:04:29
openly gay yes yeah yeah yeah yeah you
01:04:31
know why is there a rumor about you guys
01:04:32
oh my God that was so funny and and
01:04:34
actually we we would go we went to
01:04:36
Queenstown together for a weekend and
01:04:39
who I think it was in spy or something
01:04:42
and and I I feel like they already might
01:04:46
have known that but just published it
01:04:47
anyway and so we were like that's fine
01:04:50
any publicity is good publicity no but
01:04:53
he's a very dear friend of mine his um
01:04:56
like his grandma and my late Grandma
01:04:58
were besties um down in the well yeah
01:05:01
down in the kapiti coast
01:05:03
um and so we're great mates I've
01:05:05
actually bumped into them at the petrol
01:05:06
station the other day
01:05:08
um and he's obviously doing so well on
01:05:10
am and absolutely killing it so he's
01:05:13
lovely so we look so we when when that
01:05:15
great rumor came about around what we
01:05:18
were actually living together so that
01:05:19
was even worse it was like oh gosh all
01:05:21
right when you emerge out the driveway
01:05:23
like so yeah it's such a fun guy so
01:05:25
sassy yeah he's he's doing really well
01:05:27
so I'm really proud of him okay um hey
01:05:29
well in with some I've taken so much of
01:05:31
your time you're so fascinated so we
01:05:33
could chat forever I went with some
01:05:35
quick fire running questions okay what
01:05:36
do you listen to when you run
01:05:38
um I'm into like heavy electronic drum
01:05:41
and bass like um you know Wilkinson
01:05:43
shapeshifter yeah duffed off like I've
01:05:46
got a I've got a if anyone wants to
01:05:47
listen to it it's called The Run
01:05:49
finisher and I listen it's not even the
01:05:52
finisher now it's just like two and a
01:05:53
half hours right amazing noise uh what
01:05:56
is your favorite place to run Lydia do
01:05:57
you have like a specific route like a
01:05:59
trail somewhere or is it just from home
01:06:01
um so up here
01:06:03
um there's a everywhere's got Hills man
01:06:05
in Auckland my God but
01:06:08
um
01:06:10
gosh anywhere that's out in the bush you
01:06:13
know I love that takapuna to Milford one
01:06:15
too along the rocks oh that's great
01:06:16
there's a lot of people along there
01:06:17
though usually if you get the timing
01:06:19
right well if you work for your own you
01:06:20
just go midweek mid hours when no one's
01:06:22
around yeah that's true yeah that's true
01:06:24
yeah that is great um I need to get up
01:06:26
into the waitakere's as well that's so
01:06:28
good although yeah 30 petrol each way
01:06:31
yeah no okay uh do you have a favorite
01:06:33
shoe to run on uh so I run in um is it
01:06:37
hooker is that how do you say you're
01:06:38
running hocus yes oh yeah I love hookers
01:06:41
yeah that's all I run on so I run yeah
01:06:43
yeah um the Hawker ATR Challenger right
01:06:47
and then I've got the speed goats for
01:06:49
trail and then a Rincon one just for on
01:06:52
the on the road yeah big fan of them I
01:06:55
had a couple of Achilles complications
01:06:57
um and someone recommended them and I've
01:06:59
never
01:07:04
there's so much going on yeah probably
01:07:07
never gonna win a beauty contest like
01:07:08
it's not like this is so ugly not as is
01:07:12
it Shadows I love you but Brody said it
01:07:15
not me but send me another piece it's so
01:07:17
beautiful seeing me sometimes no that
01:07:19
they um I mean you get some sexy looking
01:07:20
Nikes and some new balance ones but they
01:07:22
they do the job better than anything I
01:07:24
love them they have got they yeah so I I
01:07:27
love them they are and you're not you
01:07:30
know it's not about looks
01:07:33
um yeah and no one looks good at the end
01:07:35
of a run everyone's red in the face so
01:07:36
it's something to take away the
01:07:37
attention of your face exactly
01:07:40
don't look at the face
01:07:42
check out the bottom on these man they
01:07:44
look like Rest Home Shoes you know like
01:07:47
you know like yeah
01:07:49
um do you prefer to run alone or with a
01:07:51
crew
01:07:52
um I very much love running with a crew
01:07:54
now yeah I love it but I also like
01:07:56
equally can put the headphones on and
01:07:58
smell Solitude yeah
01:08:00
um are you a summer Runner or winter
01:08:01
Runner what's your favorite season well
01:08:02
I have a running joke about summer and
01:08:04
and when you run in summer and you often
01:08:06
find yourself deep in the bowels of
01:08:08
bloody Satan's
01:08:11
um which is a place that I don't
01:08:12
recommend
01:08:13
so winter but I've I've really pushed
01:08:17
myself to be out there a bit more in the
01:08:19
heat learning to get tougher because
01:08:21
sometimes I'm like it's too hot I'm not
01:08:23
going to run but now I've I'm like you
01:08:25
can't pick the weather so I'm like if
01:08:28
you have to run the heat you have to run
01:08:29
in the heat that's a good attitude
01:08:30
because if you're doing an event you you
01:08:32
know if you wake up in the morning and
01:08:34
it's too hot what are you going to do
01:08:35
just stay in bed and so many of the of
01:08:37
the things now like quite ah quite apart
01:08:39
from like Auckland that they are quite
01:08:40
later in the day like some start at
01:08:42
eight so you know that you're going to
01:08:43
start running in the heat of the day so
01:08:45
I yeah I try and punish myself a bit but
01:08:47
if I could choose a nice cool day over
01:08:49
Satan's the cool day any day
01:08:51
yeah
01:08:52
um and run as high is it real or a myth
01:08:54
it's definitely real yeah oh yeah like
01:08:56
during or after or just wherever
01:08:59
sometimes both I feel like no run that
01:09:04
you ever do is the same as another one
01:09:06
and I think that's why you love it so
01:09:07
much so you can go out and feel really
01:09:09
flat and you run and really heavy and
01:09:12
you get home still feel good you can go
01:09:15
out and be like I am
01:09:16
thrilling it today get out still feel
01:09:19
good you always feel good when you go
01:09:21
out so it is definitely a thing yeah you
01:09:23
never regret doing it do you ever
01:09:25
never ever and um last one what's your
01:09:28
why do you have a why
01:09:30
so my why goes back to that awful awful
01:09:33
awful day at Queenstown and how horrible
01:09:37
I felt for probably two and a half to
01:09:39
three hours of it but my why was how
01:09:44
amazing is it what you can do to
01:09:47
discover how far you can push yourself
01:09:50
so my fascination with challenging
01:09:53
yourself
01:09:55
um is my why and you know whether it's
01:09:58
running or or now kayaking or biking you
01:10:02
can you can pull back from doing things
01:10:05
because you're a bit intimidated or
01:10:08
scared or whatever or I don't know those
01:10:11
people you just have to keep reminding
01:10:14
yourself what's the worst thing that can
01:10:15
happen go and give it a crack so so
01:10:17
that's sort of like pushing yourself
01:10:19
just constantly just teetering out of
01:10:22
that comfort zone yeah is a really
01:10:24
amazing thing to have in your life like
01:10:26
and not everyone's is this not everyone
01:10:28
has to run a marathon but if you can
01:10:31
find your reason to just constantly push
01:10:34
yourself out of your comfort zone I feel
01:10:36
like you your Clarity your mental health
01:10:39
and all that is is so much better for it
01:10:41
and that day in Queenstown you could
01:10:43
have pulled out and you didn't yeah and
01:10:45
your mum must have been so proud you
01:10:46
must have been so proud you the the
01:10:48
you're literally running every step
01:10:50
thinking
01:10:52
excuse the French which I have used a
01:10:53
bit this this this
01:10:56
this you're stupid this sucks this
01:10:58
is three hours of that three hours
01:11:01
of that and somehow at the end you're
01:11:04
like oh my God you girl you did it like
01:11:07
you know and so you'll never ever forget
01:11:09
that and then next time something else
01:11:11
different will happen and you just it's
01:11:13
an evolving
01:11:15
um experience of of you pushing the
01:11:17
boundaries and I absolutely love that
01:11:19
and I can't recommend just going out and
01:11:21
finding something whatever it is and and
01:11:24
just giving it a crack yeah yeah it's
01:11:26
like there's a saying I like it's just
01:11:27
like put one foot in front of the other
01:11:29
and it's um it's the same as with life
01:11:30
as well like you go through these shitty
01:11:32
periods but you'll get through them yeah
01:11:33
yeah Brody Kane thank you so much for
01:11:36
your time you're welcome what a great
01:11:38
chat oh well hey I've it's been happy to
01:11:40
be here
01:11:41
um we might have to Circle back and
01:11:43
you'll come on kiwi Yarns oh I'm very
01:11:44
busy I'm sorry oh very good now that
01:11:47
he's done it's like you're done thank
01:11:49
you get out yeah uh send me your
01:11:50
analytics no I would I would love to be
01:11:53
an honor yeah amazing you've had Lisa
01:11:55
Carrington on kiwi she's the first one
01:11:57
she first came off the rent been
01:11:59
downhill since then yeah yeah started
01:12:01
way too high no it's a fantastic podcast
01:12:03
and um yeah I'd rude to anyone that
01:12:04
doesn't follow kiwi Yarns give it a
01:12:06
follow what are your other podcasts uh
01:12:08
the girls uninterrupted which has been
01:12:09
going for years by the way that's the
01:12:11
gals um and then a very light but
01:12:15
interesting end of the week summary of
01:12:17
politics with three gals one beehive and
01:12:20
then every Wednesday
01:12:22
um three fabulously awesome smart
01:12:24
intelligent gay men do out the gate so
01:12:27
they're all available on Evelyn yeah so
01:12:29
that's um that's Maddie McLean Chris
01:12:31
Henry and Brad Christensen right yeah
01:12:33
might edit that but now because it's
01:12:35
beating me on the charts at the moment
01:12:36
yeah Bernie Kane thanks so much love you
01:12:39
thank you for having me there you go
01:12:41
Brody King absolutely love her real
01:12:43
treasure and you can check out her
01:12:44
podcast kiwi Yarns wherever you get your
01:12:46
podcast from thanks again to triumphant
01:12:48
disaster for sponsoring the show I
01:12:50
really appreciate having you guys on
01:12:51
board and uh with the sponsorship
01:12:53
hopefully we can get this thing bigger
01:12:54
and better by the way if you're a
01:12:56
business and you want to jump on board
01:12:57
when the um the deal with Triumph and
01:12:58
disaster finishes up send me an email
01:13:00
Dom Harvey NZ gmail.com and uh hopefully
01:13:04
we can make some magic together all
01:13:06
right thanks guys see you soon
