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EricMurray (Part 2) || Runners Only! Podcast with Dom Harvey

October 19, 202201:07:05

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hello and welcome to episode 16 of

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Runners only with dom Harvey thank you

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so much for joining us on the podcast

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today it's part two with Eric Murray

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when you're in The Villages no alcohol

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uh you don't really socialize when you

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always hear those media stories about

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the fact that there's like 20 000

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condoms given out in the Olympic Village

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and oh it's a massive root Fest if there

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were massive orgies I never got the

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invite and Eric wanted me to remind you

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he is still on Dancing With the Stars

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Runners only with dom Harvey sitting in

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my dining room table with um one of the

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greatest New Zealand Sports people ever

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Eric Murray

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Eva [ __ ] I know I it does baffle me that

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we won the bloody uh halberger the

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decade when you were when you're in the

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boat and you're like lining up for an

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Olympic final are you are you are you

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are you [ __ ] your pants or are you

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like okay we trust the training uh okay

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good question

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um a lot of people asked that and I

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talked to a lot of young kids and and

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bits and piece about it that and if

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you're not nervous when you're about to

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do something that you've been working

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towards

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it doesn't mean enough right you're

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nervous you're like how's this going to

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go because you're you're totally

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anticipation whatever so even though

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that you're prepared

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you've trained for something if you're

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not nervous that's all I've always said

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is that you doesn't mean enough and

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everybody has nerves and and deals with

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nerves in different ways so

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uh building up to Olympic final

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an hour and a half hour Hamish is in the

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corner eye mask on just laying down on

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his bag here I am with music and going

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back I'm amping I'm like walking around

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going here we go it's game day it's game

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day I am I am on right and you see it

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you see it with different sports you see

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you know you'll see rugby players like

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hitting ninja you know like and then

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you'll see other guys head down and

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they're just like you know you know like

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looking very nervous and so that's

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that's the way that people deal with

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their nerve so yeah limbic final same

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thing sitting in the start blocks and

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you're like oh man that that's the worst

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feeling because

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it's about to happen you've still got

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everything running through your head

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like is it gonna what what's going to go

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wrong

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could something happen what if we break

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this what if we do I suppose it's the

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thing like you if you're expected to I

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don't know if this will make you more

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nervous or less nervous but you know the

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the pressure the expectation where you

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you're supposed to win oh yeah

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absolutely and and the pressure and

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expectation that we put on ourselves far

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exceeded anything externally yeah from

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anybody else but we were always just

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making sure we were trying to go as fast

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as we can and do everything as good as

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we can like was the Olympic final our

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best ever race Matt like we should start

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up a little bit we had a couple we had a

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couple of bad Strokes you know like what

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I mean

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no but no but literally and and I I

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would struggle I don't know I reckon I'd

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struck I it'd be a lovely question to

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ask a lot of Olympic Champions would go

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was your was your final like everything

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you imagined was it everything you

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worked towards you know like in in my

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head it's like you know like it got

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not the first part of it but as we went

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progress through at halfway I was like

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we've won this this is ours it's ours to

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lose unreal because we're in front we're

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in front by that far

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I know I haven't overcooked myself so I

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know that I can get to the finish line

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and it's just a process from there like

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keep going keep going keep going boom

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and we win

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um but of course the first part is

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there's a little bit of people in front

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of us [ __ ] you know like yeah that Panic

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yeah it's Panic there's there's all of

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that sort of stuff so

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um that that all becomes part of it and

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it was there from races at the Olympics

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to races at karapiro to races at any

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World Cup exactly the same feeling I

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never ever once went into a thing just

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going ah hurry up and start because I

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just want to win this race and [ __ ]

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be over with and go home but but that's

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what I mean is we never we never ever

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took anyone for granted and I think we

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because we nearly lost one year in 2010

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every single race after that was like

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we're just gonna make sure we we go as

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hard as we can till we're very

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comfortably leading and then we'll

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will consider

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just cruising from that point but not

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cruising but just staying we're doing

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enough to stay in the lead not having to

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go to that fifth gear like right not

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having to go to overdrive we'll just

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stay in fifth gear and we'll just pump

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pump pump but we're not going to have to

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dip into that extra gear yeah that final

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because in the overdrive you've got

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about 30 seconds you know what I mean

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yeah yeah yeah

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the match is just about to touch your

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fingers and you're like go go go until

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it's out we only ever had to go there

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once

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and we were like I don't want to go

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there again because that was like you

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were absolutely Tapped Out to the point

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where I we were like when you were tying

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up like literally going I don't know if

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we won this race and you're looking

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across and got to look up to the

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scoreboard because we only won by like a

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foot and you're like oh that's right

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I've got it holy [ __ ] you know it'd be

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you know it was that close and you're

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like I don't want to hear that ever

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happened again yeah nope wow I'm used to

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pause it here and go for a pee oh we've

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drunk three beers it's been like an hour

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20 but this this stormwater discuss but

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I normally drink wine so I will have

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wine the beer's gone straight through me

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so sweet maybe while I'm gone for a pee

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you can just talk about like how you

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celebrate afterwards so you win an

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Olympic gold medal okay massive night

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okay so we want to tell some stories

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okay so this one time in London we went

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to this club in SoHo called The Box uh

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anyone knows the box and Soho holy [ __ ]

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that was a great night so to all the

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listeners out there was it a massive

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night did we all get him no majority

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because when we live in the Olympic

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Village it's a dry Village so

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one of the things that Dom will love

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this one and I think I might have talked

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about it before um

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when you're in The Villages no alcohol

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you don't really socialize so for

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everyone listening when you always hear

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those media stories about the fact that

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there's like 20 000 condoms given out in

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the Olympic Village

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and oh it's a massive root Fest and

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everyone's like ganging up on everyone

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and having a great time

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um if there was ten thousand condoms

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I've only ever seen a couple and if

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there were massive orgies I never got

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the invite so let's put that there but

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no we we we celebrate well sort of after

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the team's finished

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um when the team's all done

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um and the rowing's all over we normally

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have like a celebration thing afterwards

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but in London we won we won we went home

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uh [ __ ] and then we had to be back to

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the lake at [ __ ] 5 30 in the morning

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for six o'clock news and [ __ ] TV so

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of course you've got to get up sparrows

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fart early in the morning

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um to be to be able to like do the media

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so that's so that's the thing right and

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the thing is you're you're absolutely

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exhausted

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um you've you've spent everything like

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it's a full rat you know and emotions

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have just literally gone you're like

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this is four years of [ __ ] work I am

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I'm done you know like you're like yeah

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it's just more relief that you got the

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job 100 yeah there's so much relief

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you're like thank God that's over I'm

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[ __ ] weird so after this and the

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week's been long and every day has been

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stressful and there's just it's waiting

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it's just waiting waiting waiting

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waiting waiting and then you're just

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like okay right it's done you're out

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you're finished

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um and then you get to see your family

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and then you go back you're doing drug

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tests you're doing something else you're

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hungry because you haven't you've missed

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lunch or whatever time you have to race

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so I think in London we raced at like 2

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30 in the afternoon so of course it just

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it just winds up on you and um you know

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and there's all the stuff that goes on

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so at the end of it you're like ah we'll

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just wait till everyone's done and then

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you have a few parties and yeah the

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Olympic Games is really good like first

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few years

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um you know when we're in Athens and

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Beijing there's parties every night

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different things like you know Sports

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Illustrated or put one on or Adidas or

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Nike or someone or put it on and you're

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just like let's go and it'll be at a

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club somewhere and of course you walk in

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with your accreditation

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um and you're just hitting it up and

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that's it you know and so it's great fun

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and we're lucky because we're in the

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first week so when the first week's

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finished we uh oh you just get to enjoy

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it oh that's a dream scenario you get

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like 12 days yeah it's like

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and like in in Athens my first

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in Athens what year was it 2004. I'm so

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you were in the eights four yeah I'm 21

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year old

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best times of My Life

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um it was just like every night there

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was a party we just went like Heineken

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puts on this massive thing it was this

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Heineken house some next person would

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finish next team would finish or we'd go

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and watch the hockey they're not go

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watch this and then you just go right

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we're going straight to Hanukkah house

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because like there's what do you like

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you were just you're there and you've

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done the job or you're finished and

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you're just like let's go let's enjoy

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this atmosphere and you go to the

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stadium and you'd watch a night session

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and then you'd go to this place and

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there's a party till three in the

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morning boom you know and then you'd get

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up you'd be oh kayaking's on tomorrow

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like [ __ ] been fully at the time was

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racing back get on the bus at 6 30 and

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you're like in the back of the bus and

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of course food hall there's food to you

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they're getting free maccas you got

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Cokes in your bag you're just like lying

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here asleep in the bus and then you're

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asleep in the stand for a bit and then

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it all starts you know and so it's just

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but that's it every day was just like

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party watch and support the team repeat

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party watch team sports play and it got

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less as I got older because I was like I

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can't handle this the body is just not

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there but I like I did 12 days straight

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it was just it was it was amazing

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horrific but amazing not like horrific

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on the body amazing experience and I

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came back from from Athens and I was

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like when does training start I want to

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go to Beijing oh yeah right right oh

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really

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addictive so when you sign up yeah

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for going to the Olympics you sign up

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for four years

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four years of opportunity cost

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opportunity you do sign up for the next

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four years whatever the hell happens I

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want to be in the team and I don't just

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want to be a participant I want to be

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winning if I can meet up because you see

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what people they're winning medals and

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you're like wow that's that's your dream

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you know you've got to the Olympics at

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stage one you know you've been to you've

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made a New Zealand team you've made the

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Olympic team

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the the final stages are one in the

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middle or becoming Olympic champion

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that's right that's top of the level

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right so you see people winning Olympic

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medals and they're like I'm coming back

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next time so I can win and you're like

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wow and here's you not even getting a

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middle going wow here we go and that's

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what it's about and that's high level

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Sport and like if you want to be you

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know that you're there you know that

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you're in that

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that top percentage of trying to get to

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that point and you're just like I've got

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to do a little bit more work or I have

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to do a little bit more time or focused

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or whatever or change the way that

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you're doing it so you know we went four

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in Beijing uh four in Athens for in

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Beijing and then Hamish was like let's

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go on the pier because we oh so Hamish

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Bond was in the fours with you as well

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and he was in the foreign

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actually trained together in the pier

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when we're in the four and we had some

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magic then so every so when we're in the

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four you'd split up and there's there

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was men when Hamish me James and Carl so

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there was me and Carl on bow side which

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is running out to the left and then

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Bondi and James Ryan out to the right so

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when when Bondi and Carl Road together

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and James and I wrote together it was

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very even when Bonnie and I wrote

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together and changed the car out

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together we'd be hundreds of meters in

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front like literally we were killing

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them and so when we raced against even

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the guys George and Nathan the god of

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bronze in Beijing we [ __ ] nailed them

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so hindsight we should have gone on the

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pier yeah earlier but but at the time

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you're world champions and they're like

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silver medalists so you're like well we

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we should we should if we keep doing

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what we're doing we're going to win but

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we obviously [ __ ] didn't but but that

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was that was the mentality so yeah we

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just we knew we were good and he went to

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the he went back training early because

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I was like [ __ ] I'm taking a break

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because it was like heartbreaking going

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man I've been here for eight nine years

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already and I haven't got nothing

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so I just need a bit of time and then of

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course he rang me up in like December

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and said bro and I see you send an email

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see do you want to you want to do the

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pier and I said to Jackie can I do the

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pier and she's like well hanging paid

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the bills because there was no funding

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yeah right so I'm like well

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okay so I said look I could I'm gonna

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have to work so rather than have to

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train really early or else I'll train in

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the morning or and then I'll have to

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train by myself in the afternoon we did

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that and then dick picked us up he said

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oh well I've coached you guys and then

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we raced at karapiro like one of the

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races and we absolutely stumped it and

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it was fast it was real fast is that the

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point you realize oh [ __ ] we're onto

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something here or was it even earlier in

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training I think I could pick the type

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like so at the time the world record was

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like 6 14 and okay karapiro has a little

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bit of flow if the Dam's on but we did a

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race at like this North Island Champs

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and we did like six 19 so we're only

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like five seconds off world record and

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the next people behind us were like 6 28

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629 so we won by like nearly 10 seconds

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and so even then everyone was like oh

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these guys are fast and like if you're

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five seconds off on a not even in Peak

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Fitness

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the water's not that different no it's

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not that different it's still 2 000

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meters you're like holy [ __ ] here we go

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and then basically from there you know

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we were only a second off the world

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record in the first year that we were

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together so when we knew we were good

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and it just there was that that was the

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that was the Catalyst for like

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the rest of the Korean yeah oh yeah what

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an amazing career like um 2012 like uh

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you you guys shaved I think this was at

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the Olympics right you guys shaved six

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seconds off the world record and you and

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your heat that's the funniest story that

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one is it that like that is that is just

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mind-blowing so

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jump on the water do the warm-up it's a

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good little Tailwind doing some pieces

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and Bonnie was like that's pretty quick

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because he's got a little speed coach on

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his feet and I can't see it so he just

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sits her and like it's there for Speed

00:16:32

like just Rhythm and rating so he could

00:16:34

look down and go

00:16:35

you know you've got a flow and a rhythm

00:16:37

but if you're still writing like 40

00:16:38

Strokes a minute you're like [ __ ] we

00:16:39

need to wind this back a couple because

00:16:40

we can't write 40 all the way down it's

00:16:42

just too much on the body so you'll you

00:16:44

know he'll he'll say something and we'll

00:16:46

just lengthen it out we'll just call it

00:16:48

stride

00:16:49

so

00:16:50

got into the blocks and I said like we

00:16:53

haven't raced for like six weeks we

00:16:54

should have a good push over the course

00:16:55

we won't take the foot off the pedal

00:16:56

we'll just we're not going to Sprint to

00:16:57

the line because I was like we should

00:16:59

we'll see what everyone's doing but we

00:17:01

should be able to keep it so we went

00:17:03

past the French bolted out we went with

00:17:05

them we were in the lead at about 750

00:17:08

half a length of a thousand and then we

00:17:10

just kept the speed going and we just

00:17:12

kept it going going going all the way

00:17:13

and so we finished and like I've watched

00:17:16

the race many times

00:17:17

it's on YouTube and sit at home watching

00:17:20

it we finished we finished the race and

00:17:23

and you know we roll off the end of the

00:17:24

finish line and then I'm like talk

00:17:26

because they're like they they're like

00:17:27

are you going that way to get off the

00:17:28

Pontoon are you going to warm down and

00:17:30

I'm like I will go this way so like

00:17:31

we're not even we're not even tapped out

00:17:33

right we're not Tapped Out unbelievable

00:17:36

and so we do this warm down and everyone

00:17:38

laughing on the side of it ah thank you

00:17:40

thank you yeah great

00:17:42

yeah it's good and I was like must have

00:17:44

been quick and Hamish was like oh I see

00:17:47

how fast was that it's off I forgot to

00:17:49

start the speed coach so you didn't even

00:17:50

get the time because normally he starts

00:17:52

it and automatically picks it up so I

00:17:54

was like oh okay whatever

00:17:56

warmed down went into the Pontoon like

00:17:59

vice president of the ioc like John Coe

00:18:04

what's coming down well done boys it's

00:18:07

amazing and I'm like spun the heat what

00:18:10

and they go oh no no we're record by six

00:18:13

seconds I was like oh smash the world

00:18:14

record yeah and so we had no idea

00:18:16

because by the time we had warmed down

00:18:19

and gone we'd never saw because like the

00:18:21

times don't pop up until everyone's

00:18:22

finished one of the crews had literally

00:18:25

[ __ ] wrote it down because only only

00:18:27

the top three go through and there's

00:18:28

four crews so one of them as soon as

00:18:30

they were behind they just [ __ ] it we

00:18:32

could add it all down because what's the

00:18:33

point in wasting your energy when you've

00:18:34

got a race like tomorrow to get into the

00:18:36

next round

00:18:37

so they were like two three hundred

00:18:39

meters behind so we had no idea the time

00:18:41

until we'd warmed down and got off and

00:18:43

then everyone's just like holy [ __ ] and

00:18:44

then of course everyone in the boat

00:18:46

Park's just like shaking their heads

00:18:48

going how the [ __ ] did you go that hard

00:18:50

because I suppose when you think of um

00:18:51

world records being broken in any sport

00:18:53

you think of like tenths of a second or

00:18:54

yeah it's demolishing it yeah and and I

00:18:58

I knew I didn't think we were there I

00:18:59

like in our in our training speed I

00:19:01

thought we were good enough to probably

00:19:03

like we never went out to break records

00:19:06

because you can only do the every world

00:19:08

record in Rhine is set in hot water

00:19:11

fast race where it's very competitive

00:19:13

and in good Tailwind conditions and it's

00:19:16

it's called a world best time it's not

00:19:18

quite a record but everyone calls effect

00:19:20

really good anyway and so it's done like

00:19:23

that and so of course

00:19:25

um yeah we just we just it just it

00:19:27

clicked we were right and in a way was

00:19:30

it the fact that we were just so relaxed

00:19:32

and just rowing with the boat that we

00:19:33

went there fast like if we were in a in

00:19:35

a stress stressful situation would we

00:19:38

have tightened up would it have got a

00:19:40

little bit frantic would we have

00:19:42

actually lost some speed by not being

00:19:44

loose and just letting the boat run

00:19:47

so that relaxation really did it but yep

00:19:49

it just aligned

00:19:51

um whether

00:19:52

Peak Fitness boom and yeah and so it was

00:19:56

just amazing my God so it was it was it

00:19:59

was good and I was just like maybe it is

00:20:01

that fast one of those things that may

00:20:03

stand for years well yeah

00:20:05

but it would yeah sure would that bother

00:20:08

you if it gets beaten oh no no no no

00:20:10

because like you know everyone has their

00:20:12

Mark and everyone wants to do it I'd

00:20:14

love to keep it for as long as I can

00:20:15

yeah but at the end of the day you're

00:20:17

just a um you're just a caretaker right

00:20:20

yeah and if you set a standard no one no

00:20:22

one's gonna hold it forever but not that

00:20:24

you did it and you did it in such um I

00:20:26

don't know even fashion six seconds it's

00:20:28

yeah and so we're just we're caretakers

00:20:30

for it you know the crew that before us

00:20:31

and then the crew that did it before

00:20:33

them so everybody knows that there's

00:20:34

always going to be a progression and

00:20:36

it's technology it's Fitness it's human

00:20:38

physiology all the way down the line

00:20:41

it's different what it water conditions

00:20:43

or whatever

00:20:45

and that's uh yeah and what's your

00:20:48

relationship with Bondi like now are you

00:20:49

are your friends you text each other I

00:20:51

I'm guessing I have to after being in

00:20:53

each other's faces every day for like 10

00:20:55

years what did Bonnie send me today

00:20:57

should we have a lot Wicked hey Bondi

00:20:59

we're just going to pull this up online

00:21:00

in front of Dom uh

00:21:04

well now he was asking me about the pool

00:21:05

and he and I it's where does he live you

00:21:08

live in Cambridge uh he was in the mail

00:21:10

he was in Cambridge as uh his wife Lizzy

00:21:13

is a surgeon so she was working at

00:21:14

Tauranga hospital and now she's got her

00:21:17

I think she might be even Chief

00:21:19

placement maybe I'm in Dunedin so I

00:21:22

think they're going to move back to

00:21:22

Dunedin

00:21:24

um and she's going to be surging down in

00:21:27

hospital I mean yeah you like you guys

00:21:30

have got this amazing connection or Bond

00:21:32

or whatever you want to call it that

00:21:33

that is there for life and I'm sure as

00:21:34

you get older and you look back you'll

00:21:36

be like [ __ ] that was the coolest thing

00:21:37

ever one thing was but you're very

00:21:39

different people though oh 100 like like

00:21:42

I'd say Bonnie and I have very very good

00:21:44

friends would you call us mates

00:21:47

probably not it's so different yeah so

00:21:50

even when we were training because we

00:21:52

were at different especially in the

00:21:53

first part I was like married to Jackie

00:21:56

he was

00:21:57

was he even dating yeah he was he was

00:21:59

dating Lizzy

00:22:01

um but that was it you know like and I

00:22:04

think he had only just started seeing

00:22:05

her you know so completely different so

00:22:08

in this in the Social Circles we were

00:22:10

sort of more with Jackie Circle and what

00:22:13

she was doing with her equine stuff then

00:22:15

I was like I'd do a little bit with the

00:22:16

Roman not a lot whereas he was still

00:22:18

very much you know he he was flattened

00:22:21

at the time you know so you just

00:22:22

socialize with the people that you've

00:22:24

got and then as it progressed through

00:22:26

the time you know and then and then we

00:22:27

got uh I know we were already married

00:22:29

and then

00:22:31

um you know and then we had Zach in 2011

00:22:32

so it just it just changes

00:22:35

your social groups and so even to a

00:22:38

point where I'd be like oh you know

00:22:40

sweet I'll see you this afternoon and it

00:22:41

just we would be the the business

00:22:44

relationship if you want to call it was

00:22:46

was epic it was just 100 trust get down

00:22:49

talk to people like that and then when

00:22:52

we went away he did his [ __ ] I did my

00:22:54

[ __ ] and that's how it worked I'd never

00:22:57

ring him up and go hey bro you want to

00:22:58

go get a coffee or just go to the pub I

00:22:59

suppose I mean it's been so much time

00:23:00

together you don't need to do that I yes

00:23:02

and I think that's probably what worked

00:23:04

but then in saying that like when we

00:23:05

when we were doing events or anything we

00:23:07

would be like oh take a car you know and

00:23:08

jump in the car you know do whatever so

00:23:10

this is that very good friendship side

00:23:12

of it like very very good friendship

00:23:13

because what you've achieved together is

00:23:15

massive

00:23:17

um but is it to a point where you'd be

00:23:19

like oh bro I'm stuck with some cash can

00:23:20

you can you hit me up you know you know

00:23:22

what I mean like there's a mates yeah

00:23:23

yeah like that side of things I don't

00:23:25

think we're at that level but friendship

00:23:27

wise trust everything was was right up

00:23:29

yeah and that's and that's just what

00:23:31

probably made us very good because you

00:23:34

just didn't have that conflict

00:23:35

resolution where shit's going very bad

00:23:37

and you've got to question your mateship

00:23:40

so to speak you'd be like [ __ ] this

00:23:42

guy's been a wanker who's doing this

00:23:43

wrong you know whatever we never had to

00:23:45

have that we never you never had like a

00:23:47

big falling out or anything or uh no no

00:23:49

wow that is exceptional no and like you

00:23:53

know there's probably things that I

00:23:55

pissed Hamish off with oh I reckon he

00:23:57

would have been really annoyed with you

00:23:58

a lot yeah no no but they're what you

00:24:01

know like in a way because because that

00:24:02

was what used to happen but we we've we

00:24:04

got to know each other so well to a

00:24:06

point where you know Hamish was uh

00:24:08

Hamish is the guy that goes to bed at

00:24:10

you know help us that call tonight you

00:24:12

know nine o'clock he's he's like let's

00:24:13

turn the lights out we're going to bed

00:24:15

and of course and I'm like in fact it's

00:24:17

only nine o'clock you know like whatever

00:24:19

you know I'm a bit of a night out and of

00:24:20

course at the time I'm FaceTiming Zach

00:24:23

back home or I'm just FaceTiming Jackie

00:24:25

so when I saw him getting ready for bed

00:24:27

and he's brushing his teeth I'm like

00:24:28

right

00:24:29

here so to mitigate it he'd wear

00:24:33

earplugs and eye mask he'd turn off the

00:24:34

lights and I'd either have this so you

00:24:36

guys were sharing sharing rooms

00:24:39

so you talk oh the whole time well not

00:24:41

not all the time but anytime I looked

00:24:43

like a Regatta or something we did San

00:24:45

Pedro

00:24:47

yeah because we're on a

00:24:49

government-funded sports radio pal right

00:24:51

right right right so if government

00:24:53

officials are going overseas they're not

00:24:54

sure no no yeah but this is the thing

00:24:56

bro right the whole thing about

00:24:57

government sport everyone thinks we're

00:24:59

[ __ ] in these hotels and [ __ ] no way

00:25:01

like we're we're in a hotel but it's

00:25:03

like twin rooms the whole way like even

00:25:06

to the point sometimes where Emma would

00:25:08

be with like say the woman's coxin and

00:25:10

Mahi would have like the means Cox and

00:25:12

or something like that like there'd be a

00:25:14

few single rooms but even some of the

00:25:16

coaches were like like apart from

00:25:18

Dickens but

00:25:20

um because no one else [ __ ] wanted to

00:25:21

stay with him but

00:25:23

but it was literally their level and in

00:25:26

a way it's like that's what it you know

00:25:27

like I always looked at it as well so

00:25:30

but we I always looked at it as well as

00:25:33

the fact that this is Government funding

00:25:34

it's people they're paying sport you

00:25:36

know we're we're paid by the government

00:25:37

they're the ones pumping the money into

00:25:39

it and yet that money could be used now

00:25:41

I put my head on with the Autism New

00:25:43

Zealand right you give a million bucks

00:25:45

to us we could make a [ __ ] lot of

00:25:46

difference with that whereas you guys

00:25:48

are back into hotel rooms in Europe

00:25:53

every time the government spends money

00:25:55

on something everyone's I thought it was

00:25:57

uh they were going to spend x amount of

00:25:59

Millions on a cycle Lane clip-on for the

00:26:01

Harbor Bridge and everyone's like oh

00:26:03

that's you know that's money that could

00:26:04

be used for I don't know insert whatever

00:26:06

you want yeah

00:26:08

yeah I know but it's uh you can always

00:26:11

argue that the money taxpayers money can

00:26:13

be spent better elsewhere but I mean

00:26:15

what you guys have done like um it was

00:26:17

money well I spent like we did it

00:26:19

provided a lot of joy for new zealanders

00:26:21

we did yeah and that and that's it we

00:26:23

did it justice and I and I'd like to say

00:26:25

I I haven't really seen any

00:26:27

anyone and Rowing especially that have

00:26:29

just gone off I could all just get in

00:26:31

the team so I don't have to get a job

00:26:32

I've never seen that and I think that's

00:26:34

a good thing anyone that is that is that

00:26:36

driven to make an Olympics team you know

00:26:38

you talk before about sacrifice versus

00:26:40

opportunity lost anyone that is that

00:26:42

driven is could do so well and make so

00:26:44

much money in the corporate world yeah

00:26:46

you know what I mean yeah absolutely

00:26:47

yeah so you are financially I don't I

00:26:51

don't know what your situation is at all

00:26:53

but financially you're in a worse

00:26:54

position now than if you had a job and

00:26:56

worked worked here and put the same yeah

00:26:58

so if you effort into your job yep and

00:27:00

the thing with sport is it's pretty

00:27:03

um it's pretty secure you know like you

00:27:05

you do well and it's like here's your

00:27:07

money for the next year and you're like

00:27:08

sure see we go and then if you win the

00:27:10

World Championships you get a two-year

00:27:12

exemption so then you're like [ __ ] next

00:27:14

two years even if we go next year which

00:27:17

is good right and I think they were even

00:27:19

talking about taking it to like an

00:27:21

Olympic level where if you won an

00:27:22

Olympic medal the next four years you've

00:27:24

got secured funding let's say 60k for

00:27:26

the next four years so then you could

00:27:28

try new [ __ ] you could you could test

00:27:30

the boundaries and if it didn't pay off

00:27:32

because what happens at the moment is if

00:27:34

you you can go there and you can get

00:27:36

fourth one year and get say 50k if the

00:27:39

next year you get eight you go down to

00:27:41

40K and it's literally the next payment

00:27:43

that comes out of here it comes out from

00:27:45

the government it's 40K like or the a

00:27:47

percentage every bi-weekly payment so

00:27:49

you're like going home and that's what

00:27:52

it is that's a reality of Olympic sport

00:27:53

that is brutal yep brutal so um 69 wins

00:27:57

unbeaten um why don't you go for one

00:28:00

more race we actually raced together

00:28:01

quite a bit at karapiro if you take all

00:28:03

of those into the into the equation it's

00:28:06

98. holy [ __ ] yeah so that's that's uh

00:28:09

that's the number of official like

00:28:11

you've got to be officially

00:28:14

umpired slash

00:28:16

official registered races blah blah blah

00:28:19

98 is the number could you do you worry

00:28:22

that the um second half of your life's

00:28:24

gonna be I don't know you're still in

00:28:26

your late 30s now right what are you 39

00:28:28

38 39.

00:28:30

um

00:28:31

not that you have to top it or anything

00:28:33

but it's like I don't know there's still

00:28:35

so much so much life left to live but

00:28:37

it's like you're too young to rest on

00:28:38

your laurels and like oh yeah yeah oh

00:28:41

but see that's the thing is like right

00:28:42

like sport is finite not not all sports

00:28:46

but most sports are finite right rugby

00:28:48

yeah

00:28:50

pretty much yeah Olympic sports probably

00:28:52

except archery shooting but maybe a

00:28:55

quick trip you know like this yeah you

00:28:56

can go quite later in life in a few of

00:28:58

those but anything else you're like

00:29:00

you've got a window of opportunity yeah

00:29:01

and that's

00:29:03

and that's what I say to a lot of the

00:29:05

kids and stuff I talk to I'm like look

00:29:06

honestly uh just go for it like give it

00:29:09

a go and if it if it pays off it pays

00:29:11

off it's fun it's hard but it's fun you

00:29:14

know like even if you don't achieve what

00:29:16

you you're hoping to achieve the journey

00:29:18

alone you learn so much from and you go

00:29:21

to some amazing places like [ __ ] we've

00:29:22

been to some amazing places in Europe

00:29:24

and seen some beautiful sights and and

00:29:26

we've basically traveled well I wouldn't

00:29:28

say we traveled the world for free

00:29:29

because you don't get it to go out a lot

00:29:31

but you go to some places and then on

00:29:33

our Sunday off you'll be like [ __ ] maybe

00:29:34

we'll go up Mount Pilates let's get the

00:29:36

cable car up we'll go up the top and

00:29:37

you're like wow we're at or a young frat

00:29:39

you know we're at the top of Europe you

00:29:41

know and you'll go see different things

00:29:42

in Rome or or in France you know so

00:29:45

there's a lot of things you get to do

00:29:47

which other people are like

00:29:48

I'm gonna pay it out of my pocket so you

00:29:51

can do certain things you know but at

00:29:53

the same time you're there for that that

00:29:56

side of it as well so you know we went

00:29:58

to one of the stages of Tour de France

00:30:00

which was just outside of Belgium one

00:30:02

time you know I can watch some Zoom pass

00:30:04

that we're like is it there's like 10

00:30:06

minutes of all this [ __ ] [ __ ] comes

00:30:08

past and all this stuff comes past and

00:30:10

then you're like here comes the race

00:30:11

you're like you can see the helicopters

00:30:13

in the distance you're like oh here it

00:30:14

goes and then it's a boom and it's

00:30:16

literally two in front and you're

00:30:17

watching yellow juice to go past you

00:30:18

like oh [ __ ] it goes through him you

00:30:20

know and you're just like man that was

00:30:22

amazing you know and then oh here comes

00:30:23

the last stragglers and [ __ ] like that

00:30:26

and then you're like wow we just watched

00:30:28

during France life you know you're like

00:30:29

those are the best guys in the world on

00:30:31

the juice you know but hey

00:30:34

yeah yeah it's better than the last

00:30:37

dinosaur thing like he's I I used to

00:30:39

have a cycling and said when he did the

00:30:40

open interview it's like well we all

00:30:42

kind of knew anyway like it's the

00:30:43

dirtiest sport ever oh everyone

00:30:45

everyone's on the juice the problem that

00:30:48

I don't like about it was all the way

00:30:49

that he that he dealt with people oh

00:30:50

yeah yeah I think that's the thing he

00:30:52

was an [ __ ] you know like and and I

00:30:54

know he was trying to save his thing but

00:30:56

at the end of the day he did a lot of

00:30:58

good for the cancer trust to Live Strong

00:30:59

and he did a lot of good for other [ __ ]

00:31:00

you know did he make a lot of money

00:31:02

criminally yeah [ __ ] he did you know

00:31:04

but you know our U.S Postal Service

00:31:06

probably did quite well out of it too

00:31:07

100 and that's why like he probably will

00:31:09

never go to jail for it because they

00:31:11

like yeah it's all sort of now here and

00:31:13

he um how's this so he he um invested in

00:31:16

an Uber early on so he's worth like 100

00:31:18

million or something

00:31:20

how does he get that much good luck

00:31:24

anyway okay I I put on Instagram

00:31:27

yesterday that I'm having a chat with

00:31:29

you any questions oh my God here we go

00:31:31

there was so many when they came out

00:31:33

like five or six times people ask me if

00:31:35

you've ever taken like almost like a

00:31:37

swan or a goose to a bar do you want to

00:31:39

see the picture

00:31:40

yeah I have because it's on my Instagram

00:31:44

is it a smart or a goose so it was it

00:31:47

was uh

00:31:50

what are you up to

00:31:52

Lucerne 2008 we were at the party okay

00:31:57

so 2008 so this is when you're in the

00:31:59

fours right so you you were really we

00:32:03

had actually had a really [ __ ] [ __ ]

00:32:04

race we we I don't even think we're in

00:32:06

the final we're in the oh I don't know

00:32:08

if we got fifth we're in the B5 what are

00:32:10

the other no we got first and we were

00:32:12

like [ __ ] [ __ ] okay we're gonna have to

00:32:13

go away and train pretty hard and these

00:32:16

Canadian guys that I got on really well

00:32:17

with this guy we were drunk in this

00:32:19

place called Mr pickwicks anyone that's

00:32:20

been to Lucy and all know Miss

00:32:22

pickwick's right on the river and it's

00:32:23

just like it's like you know it's an

00:32:25

Irish bar but it's like got Australia

00:32:27

New Zealand Island flag you know like

00:32:30

yeah and then one of the boys

00:32:37

that's a great idea oh [ __ ] yeah I just

00:32:40

shined on the photo oh my God so we we

00:32:43

basically jumped in Lake Lucerne and he

00:32:45

went round one side of a boat that was

00:32:47

moored and I went round the other side

00:32:48

and we grabbed it that looks heavy by

00:32:50

the way it looks heavy they weigh

00:32:51

probably about 25 to 30 kilograms and so

00:32:54

we grabbed the spot how do you grab a

00:32:57

swan uh so you you aren't they quite

00:33:00

vicious yeah so they so that thing was

00:33:02

like biting us and and stuff and like we

00:33:04

were we weren't like I was still like we

00:33:06

don't want to hurt it at the time I was

00:33:08

like let's not hurt like make sure we're

00:33:10

not hurting this thing so we dragged

00:33:11

each other out we were in jeans at the

00:33:13

time you know like everybody and jeans

00:33:14

on so we had wet jeans but we took our

00:33:16

tops off to swim stupidly like we were

00:33:19

like why didn't we take all our girl but

00:33:21

we swam in there and so then we just

00:33:22

walked it back down to the bar and of

00:33:25

course the bars overflowing onto the

00:33:27

footpath and so we just walked into the

00:33:29

middle of this thing and people

00:33:30

unexpectingly the spot you know like

00:33:32

Swan's head would just poke it in front

00:33:34

of these like he was facing that like

00:33:36

squealing and screaming and everyone

00:33:39

and of course it's right at the start of

00:33:41

mobile phone technology camera so most

00:33:43

people had a digital camera so they're

00:33:45

just like

00:33:46

like you know whatever and um and and

00:33:49

then of course so we took it but then of

00:33:51

course the bar lady came out she goes in

00:33:53

an Irish actually [ __ ] put that down

00:33:55

you know like and she's like put it back

00:33:58

in the water I'll call the police you

00:33:59

know and so we so we put it back so yeah

00:34:01

but it was just like at the spur of the

00:34:02

moment thing and it was just like wow

00:34:04

and so it's one of the very I think

00:34:07

first pictures on my Instagram at the

00:34:09

time but yeah

00:34:11

your career has been so good stuff like

00:34:14

that stuff like that you could have got

00:34:15

away with them but you you couldn't

00:34:17

understand because your status for

00:34:19

social media phones and yeah yeah and

00:34:22

that's and that's oh yeah one that's one

00:34:25

thing I've seen on my time is like [ __ ]

00:34:27

I remember I remember being in Beijing

00:34:29

and I hope we went we all went to the

00:34:31

silk markets and bought counterfeit

00:34:32

iPhones in 2008 it was the year they got

00:34:35

released and so we all bought iPhones

00:34:37

for like 50 bucks

00:34:39

and we brought them back to New Zealand

00:34:41

and they worked the only thing that

00:34:42

didn't go on them was the GPS right

00:34:44

right so we had were they Canada

00:34:47

were they legit there were taken from

00:34:49

the factory everything worked right

00:34:50

everything worked in it and including

00:34:52

all the like at the time it was only

00:34:54

about half a dozen apps like notes and

00:34:56

yeah mail and stuff like that all worked

00:34:59

except the GPS right so you couldn't the

00:35:01

Safari worked everything but the the the

00:35:03

GPS and it felt a bit heavier and stuff

00:35:07

like that and the charge didn't really

00:35:08

last whatever but it was a full

00:35:09

counterfeit 50 bucks and so we were

00:35:12

buying them and like we bought them back

00:35:13

and we're like hey look at my iPhone

00:35:15

2008. why would you get in trouble for

00:35:17

that I feel like no no we're not getting

00:35:19

anything but I'm just saying like that

00:35:20

was like right the [ __ ] that we've done

00:35:21

over time just like yeah but no I

00:35:24

haven't I haven't done anything the only

00:35:27

or the only questionable one which which

00:35:29

we got like in Switzerland they are not

00:35:32

there is you do not ride a bike without

00:35:34

helmet

00:35:35

especially when you're been on the boats

00:35:37

and as Jayden my mate of mine Jada hey

00:35:40

Jade bro if you're listening and um

00:35:41

please find you oh so we so we were we

00:35:44

finished as I was talking about before

00:35:46

about going to these like festivals we

00:35:48

left this Festival probably I don't know

00:35:49

how about 11 12 o'clock and we were like

00:35:51

biking down to the macca's to have a

00:35:53

feed and um and and of course the cops

00:35:56

like you know and we're like [ __ ] and

00:35:58

they pulled us up and they're like no no

00:36:01

like and we were like sorry

00:36:03

yeah we don't know we don't know like

00:36:06

you do not ride your bikes here without

00:36:07

the thing and they were like we will

00:36:09

take them off you and whatever and so

00:36:11

we're like [ __ ] so then we had to walk

00:36:13

we walked them down the rest of the way

00:36:15

to that and then we walked them to the

00:36:17

outskirts of town until we got to the

00:36:18

bike path that we knew we were going to

00:36:19

go down by the edge of the lake and then

00:36:21

we jumped on them but of course we were

00:36:22

biking through town like literally

00:36:25

middle of the night without a helmet on

00:36:26

no lights no nothing so but if we had

00:36:28

got pulled up and we were drunk too

00:36:30

drunk and they'd been like you're in the

00:36:32

back of the car imagine ringing up

00:36:34

management going hey Jim

00:36:39

that's what I mean is a lot of time you

00:36:41

know like we've seen it with like rugby

00:36:43

players in that they get too drunk and

00:36:44

they have a fight or someone pushes them

00:36:46

around at a pub next minute it's media

00:36:49

and like oh so-and-so Dan Carter got

00:36:50

kicked out of whatever it is

00:36:52

that sort of level but we avoided it

00:36:55

probably because like it wasn't bad but

00:36:58

it's still if someone finds out about

00:37:00

that they're gonna be that's some big

00:37:01

news that's yeah an outcry what year was

00:37:03

it that um Stephen Fleming and Dion Nash

00:37:05

got caught smoking weed do you remember

00:37:07

that for the Black Ops there's very

00:37:09

early on right must have been early

00:37:10

2000s do you think part of it is maybe

00:37:12

because like like a sports like quick

00:37:13

and rugby have a like a higher sort of

00:37:15

profile

00:37:16

yeah absolutely yeah yeah absolutely but

00:37:20

we never no apart from that I don't

00:37:22

think there's anything I've never done

00:37:24

anything I've been at a couple I

00:37:25

remember a couple of speeches I've been

00:37:27

to one in Queenstown one time and this

00:37:30

was after London and it started getting

00:37:32

a bit Rowdy and I you know you could

00:37:34

just sense that these guys were like you

00:37:37

know I can that guy there and you could

00:37:39

just sense a little bit of aggression

00:37:41

and I just went I'm out I'm off I'm out

00:37:43

of here yeah because you know oh what

00:37:46

you know because you you had the medals

00:37:48

were getting shot because we had because

00:37:49

it was just after we'd won and they were

00:37:50

with this corporate thing we were doing

00:37:51

and they were showing aren't you're

00:37:53

going to give them to us they have a

00:37:54

look you know and then you can just

00:37:55

sense the aggression yeah yeah you think

00:37:57

you do good for us and I'm like I'm out

00:37:59

I'm off I do not I don't need this like

00:38:01

I don't need a fight to start

00:38:03

anything to happen and so you just

00:38:05

remove yourself from the equation and

00:38:07

that's sort of what I've tried to do

00:38:08

from then on I've only been in trouble

00:38:11

once

00:38:13

for when I tweeted one time about the

00:38:15

election oh that's right you're like um

00:38:17

oh John Key's got my vote or something I

00:38:19

see JK right right and of course next

00:38:22

minute I'm getting this phone call from

00:38:24

like the herald going oh I'm just blah

00:38:26

blah blah you know you've just broken an

00:38:27

election back off I have and they're

00:38:29

like yep you just said go and vote for

00:38:31

national

00:38:31

and I was like no I didn't I said JK got

00:38:34

my boat and they're like you're not even

00:38:35

allowed to say that and of course you

00:38:37

went yeah but it was that it was that

00:38:38

when was that was that 20 ah when was it

00:38:41

2010 whatever right right and of course

00:38:43

they had no idea about social media in

00:38:45

the election and on the election they

00:38:46

can't say [ __ ] so there's a few of us

00:38:49

that got pinned up and and made a part

00:38:51

of in the media and I was actually quite

00:38:53

afraid because we're actually well

00:38:55

because they were like talking about

00:38:57

election fraud right and of course at

00:38:59

the time oh they're never going to

00:39:01

uphold it though no but they weren't

00:39:03

going to but of course I I did you think

00:39:05

they might make an example but I had a

00:39:06

phone call from like the board and stuff

00:39:09

saying hey we just we've just read this

00:39:11

about that you know this is could be

00:39:13

quite serious and you're like

00:39:14

[ __ ]

00:39:16

that they're going

00:39:18

[ __ ] like when you have your CEO or your

00:39:20

board like say look we will

00:39:22

if anything comes with us we'll have to

00:39:24

deal with it and you're like

00:39:26

you're sitting at home going is this

00:39:28

going to happen you know and so I was a

00:39:31

little bit for a while and then of

00:39:32

course nothing but it wasn't like

00:39:35

someone rang you up and said oh hey

00:39:36

we're not even going to do about

00:39:37

anything about it but in the article it

00:39:40

said that the police had been informed

00:39:41

and they would be following up so I'm

00:39:44

like going oh it's just waiting for that

00:39:46

knock on the door but of course then you

00:39:47

go on social media and of course you

00:39:48

look at everyone's like you know you at

00:39:50

the time I think you could just search

00:39:51

like what it like words and there's

00:39:54

thousands of people going go vote for

00:39:56

labor but National you know like

00:39:57

whatever it was or the opposite and so

00:39:59

I'm like well if they make an example of

00:40:00

me you can't not do that with those

00:40:02

people yeah but I suppose they'd argue

00:40:04

that you're like a person of influence

00:40:05

but I was like at the time I was like

00:40:06

I've only got 10 000 Twitter followers

00:40:08

so it's not like and you could have

00:40:09

someone with 500 friends so

00:40:18

I'm sure some other people did it as

00:40:20

well like Israel yeah he did yeah yeah

00:40:23

and I think this is like Jonah at the

00:40:25

time and a few other people but they

00:40:27

just made made a story you know someone

00:40:28

yeah some just a media journalist had to

00:40:31

make a story yeah imagine that doing

00:40:33

journalism for three years just so you

00:40:34

can scroll Instagram and try and call

00:40:37

people out they're still they're still

00:40:38

there right yeah yeah absolutely they've

00:40:41

got like a whole team of people

00:40:42

absolutely and they're a screencaping so

00:40:44

it doesn't matter if you delete it if

00:40:45

it's out there for more than a couple of

00:40:46

minutes I have been I will I'm not gonna

00:40:48

lie I have been very good I just been

00:40:50

even in the last year or two I've been

00:40:52

so close to just be like commenting on

00:40:55

some dumb asses thing about not like

00:40:57

getting vaccinated I'm like you mother

00:40:58

you know like I'm like you're a dope and

00:41:01

I'm like don't don't say it don't comic

00:41:03

don't comment shut your mouth do it do

00:41:05

what your granddad always said that you

00:41:07

just said keep your mouth shut you know

00:41:08

like I'm like okay keep it keep and I've

00:41:10

I've been very good even yeah sometimes

00:41:13

you were just like

00:41:15

I want to jump on the bandwagon with

00:41:16

everyone yeah yeah yeah okay so some

00:41:19

more questions

00:41:20

um these were from Instagram uh the

00:41:23

handlebar mustache is ever going to

00:41:24

return

00:41:25

uh I'm liking the beard at the moment

00:41:27

yeah the book looks good on you I could

00:41:29

pull the handlebar back at some stage

00:41:31

yeah maybe maybe if I make the final of

00:41:33

dancing hey we'll see if I can oh is

00:41:35

that right is that a promise oh it's not

00:41:37

a promise

00:41:38

how are you feeling about the dancing

00:41:40

because you've you have said you've got

00:41:41

two left feet so far according to Lauren

00:41:44

we're doing very very well right right

00:41:45

she's like you've got these routines

00:41:48

we've already learned two full routines

00:41:49

I I've been answered that before but I

00:41:52

I'd struggled for remember oh yeah I had

00:41:55

to look because it's like a two minute

00:41:56

dance but it's it's just fast right you

00:41:59

know and then you forget something cool

00:42:01

you [ __ ] something up and then you're

00:42:02

like you remember that rather than

00:42:05

thinking about what's in front of you

00:42:06

yeah yeah and of course you're not the

00:42:08

right way and you're like oh [ __ ] and

00:42:10

sitting in practice you can stop but in

00:42:12

train in full thing you're just gonna

00:42:13

have to go for it so no I'm feeling I

00:42:15

think it'll be all right it's a

00:42:17

popularity contest at the end of the day

00:42:18

so the people that are going to win are

00:42:20

the ones that are going to get all the

00:42:21

vote so I want to see if I've got enough

00:42:23

supporters it'll be like yeah we want to

00:42:25

see you down oh well I I wouldn't put it

00:42:27

past you I mean um it seems like

00:42:28

everything you do is quite methodical

00:42:29

like whether it's the rowing whether

00:42:31

it's like celebrity Treasure Island

00:42:32

whether it's the boxing so I'll give it

00:42:34

a good will I am literally we are

00:42:37

training full-time how many hours

00:42:40

we did about 25 to 30 last week right

00:42:43

and yeah so we are trying to do as much

00:42:45

as we can because when you when you sign

00:42:47

up what are they what do they tell you

00:42:48

the commitment is how many hours 16

00:42:50

hours 16 hours it's about three hours a

00:42:51

day sort of three to four hours a day

00:42:53

sort of four or four days a week so I

00:42:55

had um David Kelly on the podcast a few

00:42:57

weeks ago the the brown butter bean and

00:42:59

um he said yeah they said it I'd have to

00:43:01

do this many hours and I just started

00:43:02

laughing at him I was like bro I was

00:43:04

married to JJ when she was on it I was

00:43:06

working with Randall when he was on it

00:43:07

the amount of hours they do if you want

00:43:09

to if you want to do well it is mind

00:43:11

it's a full-time job

00:43:13

yeah it's just repetition it's like

00:43:16

you've just got to get something right

00:43:18

you know it's like you're going left

00:43:20

right twirl down the line Left Right

00:43:22

Grapevine front back that while holding

00:43:25

a pose with your head out to the left

00:43:26

doing this swinging your arm to the

00:43:28

right on this [ __ ] step you're like

00:43:29

holy yeah do you know what I mean it is

00:43:32

literally when you watch people do

00:43:34

ballroom and they throw out twists come

00:43:35

back that that you've just got to

00:43:38

remember not only like the moves the

00:43:40

direction the that the body the swirl

00:43:43

[ __ ] you're like holy [ __ ] here we go so

00:43:45

it's just you just got to find a way to

00:43:48

be able to do it and like see rowing was

00:43:49

easy because we just did the same strike

00:43:50

every [ __ ] time and try to perfect it

00:43:52

whereas this is like you've got to do a

00:43:55

whole different sequence of steps and

00:43:57

then next one next one next one next one

00:43:59

for I think about a minute and a half

00:44:01

yeah yeah and you're like

00:44:03

oh [ __ ] it's a minute and a half you

00:44:04

know like I think it is a minute and a

00:44:06

half to two minutes of stuff and you're

00:44:07

like

00:44:08

wow okay

00:44:10

I think I think the key is to like start

00:44:12

shut and progress from there like if you

00:44:14

look at something

00:44:18

more questions what's an ERG is that

00:44:20

like a rowing machine

00:44:22

what's an egg right machine I guess well

00:44:25

it's it's called an ergometer because

00:44:27

it's a measure of power right okay

00:44:28

someone asked um did you listen to music

00:44:31

do you listen to music when you're on

00:44:32

the Urge yeah yeah so it's like you know

00:44:34

when you're in the right machine in the

00:44:35

gym yeah because you just got to sit on

00:44:37

there for like half an hour it's like on

00:44:38

a treadmill like would you just run

00:44:40

there with nothing on no it's boring as

00:44:42

yeah so if you if you can listen to

00:44:44

something yeah Oh and next minute you're

00:44:45

like [ __ ] it's been 40 minutes yeah yeah

00:44:47

but in rhyme you've just got to sit on

00:44:49

the row machine because the only way to

00:44:51

get better at rowing is to row yeah but

00:44:53

if you can't get on the water you sit on

00:44:55

a rowing machine

00:44:57

yeah and so that's basically any role

00:44:59

would do that so we yeah we listen to

00:45:01

music or we'd watch like I'd watch

00:45:02

videos or whatever and just pass the

00:45:04

time yeah uh when did you start rolling

00:45:07

uh school high school right I always I

00:45:10

love it go to you go to schools and

00:45:11

they'll be like oh we need our kids go

00:45:13

to school uh we need again I just go

00:45:15

look

00:45:16

there's heaps of hot boys heaps of hot

00:45:18

girls whatever way you go

00:45:20

um and you get [ __ ] heaps time off

00:45:22

school and you tell kids that you go

00:45:24

look you've got Mighty cup it's a week

00:45:25

and a half that's a big deal right North

00:45:27

Island you get half a week this is

00:45:28

forgetters they might let you go on a

00:45:29

Thursday night so you can do half down

00:45:31

Thursday so you just tell kids what they

00:45:33

want to hear and you go you'll get fit

00:45:35

and as I say this hot chicks hot boys

00:45:37

whatever way you go whatever and and

00:45:39

you'll be like you'll really enjoy it's

00:45:41

racing yeah but but of course and

00:45:43

they'll be like oh wow and then you go

00:45:44

look and you go to regatta's and you

00:45:45

might win something you might want to

00:45:46

race or who cares you wanna you get in B

00:45:48

final you get t-shirts you do this and

00:45:50

of course you just have a great time and

00:45:52

next minute they're like

00:46:04

uh we did pretty good uh someone asked

00:46:07

if not hamash then who else

00:46:10

uh I don't think I would have been a

00:46:12

successful without how much yeah there's

00:46:13

no way and vice versa for sure yeah

00:46:15

Hamish always said that he didn't think

00:46:17

two Hamish bonds would go as well as

00:46:19

homogeneuric right I still don't what

00:46:21

does that mean well if he if he doubled

00:46:23

himself right okay if he was able to

00:46:25

duplicate himself and go he was like no

00:46:27

it's not going to go as well as me and

00:46:29

him why why do they say that I don't

00:46:30

because I think they would have just

00:46:32

been like too clashy with their

00:46:34

pessimism yeah where is he no no because

00:46:37

he was he like Hamish would go oh [ __ ]

00:46:40

this could go wrong or that could go

00:46:41

wrong and of course I was like ah should

00:46:43

be right bro let's just give it a whirl

00:46:45

you know like and and I was I was the

00:46:46

leveler to his like anxiety of yeah [ __ ]

00:46:49

this is gonna whatever and I'll be like

00:46:51

don't worry about it and then and then

00:46:52

of course if he was feeling like if he

00:46:55

was like stressed or he was like [ __ ]

00:46:56

I'm having a bad day even if I was

00:46:58

having a bad day but like that's all

00:46:59

right bro let's just get this let's get

00:47:00

up to here let's focus on this part

00:47:02

we'll stop here I'll be like have a

00:47:03

quick drink let's really get you know

00:47:05

into whatever so but of course if he was

00:47:07

there they'd be like [ __ ] we can't stop

00:47:08

you know like would have been too much

00:47:10

together so I don't think even at the

00:47:12

time there was a couple of guys good

00:47:15

enough around but I just don't think

00:47:17

anybody yeah Hamish was a freak and and

00:47:19

to be here and you were too yeah uh yeah

00:47:23

I was good but not to his freakishly

00:47:25

well he is literally a specimen where

00:47:28

you go his power to wait you know he was

00:47:30

90 kilograms basically doing the same

00:47:32

sort of power I could do so he's free in

00:47:35

the world he was probably almost number

00:47:37

one in rowing on Powder weight ratio all

00:47:39

this stuff yeah well that might negate

00:47:40

this next question is it true that you

00:47:43

rode in the ERG before each race to

00:47:45

prevent yourself from overpowering

00:47:47

Hamish

00:47:49

all the time

00:47:51

so I was basically saying you had to

00:47:53

burn off some gas so the weights are the

00:47:55

way is the secrets the way that we

00:47:57

worked is that I could overpower Hamish

00:48:00

if I wanted to but in the first part of

00:48:02

the race I would temper my ability to

00:48:05

make sure our boat went straight because

00:48:06

if your boat's like if I because I've

00:48:08

got leverage on them if I put the power

00:48:09

on the boat actually tilts sideways and

00:48:12

basically crabs into the water and it

00:48:14

will slow down right it's going sideways

00:48:16

rather than it going straight so in the

00:48:18

first

00:48:19

say 20 seconds 30 seconds if I just made

00:48:24

sure I applied my power properly then

00:48:26

we'd go straight and then by the time we

00:48:28

were in the middle of the the race I was

00:48:31

trying to keep up with Heyman right

00:48:33

right that's his physiology okay guys I

00:48:35

was like

00:48:36

I'm on the red line and he's on the red

00:48:39

line and we're going straight which it

00:48:40

shouldn't do because he's a physical

00:48:42

specific wow if he was in the bow I

00:48:44

still reckon I'd be we would have

00:48:45

struggled I'd be like [ __ ] I can't hold

00:48:47

you

00:48:48

but then an outright power if we were

00:48:50

doing sprints we could I could pull him

00:48:52

sideways [ __ ] all day of the week but

00:48:54

that's not productive in the box so yeah

00:48:56

so just keeping it steady was the way

00:48:58

yeah um someone asked the question well

00:49:00

I think there's a lot of questions from

00:49:02

like hardcore rose that wanted to know

00:49:03

stuff what was your hardest training

00:49:04

session ever is there one that stands

00:49:06

out uh a particular one or 38 500 meter

00:49:09

pieces

00:49:10

38 so you do 500 meters as hard as you

00:49:14

go so quarter distance it's hard

00:49:16

and then turn around back on so this was

00:49:19

a dick special

00:49:20

that sounds terrible by the way the

00:49:22

special deck um deck special uh no

00:49:25

communication didn't tell us what we're

00:49:27

doing

00:49:28

in Belgium We Knew by the way can I say

00:49:30

hello from a running perspective so my

00:49:32

coach um if you just turned up any and

00:49:35

you're just like this is what you're

00:49:36

doing today and it'll tell you like as

00:49:38

you had your shoes on you've just warmed

00:49:39

up and you'd be like [ __ ] so you don't

00:49:41

know if you guys oh you're going to run

00:49:42

50k today you'd be like oh hang on I

00:49:44

don't have enough gels I don't have

00:49:45

enough water yeah yeah my turning around

00:49:47

I haven't taken a shirt you know like

00:49:48

whatever you you'd be like whoa and that

00:49:50

was dick so we had to be prepared so I

00:49:53

think the unexpected so I used to carry

00:49:55

two and a half liters of water in behind

00:49:56

the boat I had this little compartment

00:49:58

at the back and then Hamish and I used

00:50:00

to share that if we had massive rows he

00:50:02

sounds terrifying yep did you did you

00:50:03

piss in the boat no you just put your

00:50:05

leg out right yeah yeah so but that was

00:50:08

at 38 500 meter pieces was

00:50:11

and we didn't know we we got how slow

00:50:13

was the last one last the last like 15

00:50:16

right like treading and [ __ ] cement

00:50:18

they were horrific they were so slow and

00:50:21

we had like the girls club crying mahe

00:50:23

was like half slide trying to row Emma I

00:50:26

think it could like I don't know if

00:50:27

she'd quit but she just wasn't even

00:50:29

trying like she was just off her feet

00:50:30

and she she's a she's a hard chick and

00:50:33

like we it was that's prop that's number

00:50:35

one there's nothing and like when people

00:50:37

find out about it and they're like [ __ ]

00:50:39

off you're like because most people do

00:50:40

probably eight or ten so we did like

00:50:42

four times the amount at full at full

00:50:44

speed there's no it was from go bang my

00:50:47

bang as hard as you can go because he's

00:50:48

keeping time so he can see how yeah

00:50:52

terrific three and a half hours three

00:50:54

and a half hours on the water do you um

00:50:56

oh my God how do you how do you feel

00:50:58

about them now like you are you angry do

00:51:01

you look back with like rose tinted

00:51:02

glasses and think well I just like at

00:51:04

the top like nah because you just I

00:51:06

don't know I've just got a good

00:51:08

perspective on it that like he was doing

00:51:10

it to get us good

00:51:11

so you think he's got a good heart and

00:51:13

it came from a good place or he's trying

00:51:14

he because if we if we were he looks

00:51:17

good yeah

00:51:18

any coach right any coach any coach that

00:51:21

does something they're not and I always

00:51:23

tell people I'm like if your coach tells

00:51:25

you to do something [ __ ] do it

00:51:26

they're not telling you to do something

00:51:28

for shits and giggles yeah they're

00:51:30

wanting you to be better they're wanting

00:51:32

you to win because if you win they look

00:51:34

good

00:51:35

you look good they look good they're not

00:51:38

going to waste their time or your time

00:51:40

by just going I'm not going to worry

00:51:42

about them because they're going to look

00:51:43

like [ __ ] because if you get lost

00:51:44

they'll be like why would someone hire

00:51:46

Joe Joe blogs to be a coach when his

00:51:48

[ __ ] Crews keep getting lost do you

00:51:51

know what I mean yeah so dick was just

00:51:52

he wanted us to win and that was just

00:51:54

his way of like I think by doing this

00:51:57

philosophy I've trained them like if I

00:51:59

can like racehorse vlogging them like I

00:52:01

did racehorse they're going to win and

00:52:03

there was this philosophy and guess what

00:52:05

Rob twins twins mahe us Mah hey how many

00:52:10

else do you want it oh that's

00:52:11

exceptional how many like about

00:52:13

25 world champions yeah it's incredible

00:52:16

so you go he is he is he is literally

00:52:19

New Zealand's best coach he beats Arthur

00:52:21

Lydia hands down who else has got the

00:52:23

same record that he does

00:52:24

Gordon Walker's starting to get up there

00:52:26

with like Lisa and a few of the girls

00:52:28

right right but dick is number one in

00:52:31

all Olympic sports in New Zealand he is

00:52:33

at the top yeah even though he's

00:52:35

terrible with a lot of others so

00:52:37

coaching record alone is Second To None

00:52:40

So if you're into a function today and

00:52:42

he was there like oh it's so hot yeah

00:52:43

yeah he probably all right there you go

00:52:46

I don't well I don't know do you have

00:52:47

like any sort of PTSD or do any of the

00:52:49

others have no I think a few people do

00:52:52

yeah so one of the girls the school

00:52:53

Fiona Bert she's come back to be

00:52:56

uh like an athlete like a holistic

00:52:58

coaching thing and I'm like because she

00:53:01

would have I think she struggled with

00:53:04

deck yeah and now she's come back to be

00:53:06

like we should do it a way different way

00:53:07

than what we did with him because like

00:53:10

she had some horrific times

00:53:12

and not as you as you do right yeah

00:53:14

there's some people that go I absolutely

00:53:16

hated my time with thing she did very

00:53:18

well they won a world championship title

00:53:19

and a few other things but then she blew

00:53:22

out before yeah blah blah but yeah

00:53:23

coming back I think if you can learn

00:53:25

from some people's mistakes and make it

00:53:27

better

00:53:29

obviously yeah it's yeah it's a tweaking

00:53:31

thing isn't it yeah so take the good

00:53:33

throw out the bed take the goods

00:53:35

um how do you control pre-race nerves

00:53:37

and anxiety it's always there deal with

00:53:39

it and find a way just what's always

00:53:42

going to be there so the more you

00:53:44

understand it the better you'll get at

00:53:46

just being like I feel like I'm going to

00:53:48

wee myself or I feel like I'm shaking

00:53:50

whatever it's always going to be there

00:53:52

so just know that when it's there it

00:53:55

means a lot and yeah and and just find a

00:53:58

way and find everyone's going to be

00:53:59

different so you just deal with yourself

00:54:01

and let everybody worry about themselves

00:54:03

right do you remember signing my breast

00:54:05

at a Regatta

00:54:07

what was that there was a question

00:54:11

um maybe someone someone said um how did

00:54:15

you get through the why days I suppose

00:54:17

the days where you wake up in the

00:54:18

morning and why why am I doing this uh

00:54:20

it's uh you you've gotta you've got to

00:54:23

remember that it's a long it's long like

00:54:26

it's you're

00:54:28

you're waking up you can't you know like

00:54:30

for us as I said before it's a four-year

00:54:33

campaign I never woke up and went yes

00:54:36

it's not it's it's 921 days to the

00:54:39

Olympics do you know what I mean yeah

00:54:41

yeah yeah you know that there's a

00:54:42

process and and some days you're just

00:54:44

like [ __ ] I don't want to be here blah

00:54:47

blah but you're not gonna feel like that

00:54:49

all the time and and the one thing that

00:54:52

you learn over time is that there's

00:54:54

periods where you just wear the [ __ ] out

00:54:56

of yourself and then the coach will be

00:54:58

like oh we're having a light week and

00:54:59

you'll be like oh you beauty you know

00:55:01

and you get a quarter of the caves

00:55:03

pulled back you know 20K rows turn into

00:55:05

16s you know 12. I know it's still a lot

00:55:09

but but as as like us you know it's like

00:55:11

if you're Coke CTI you're not going to

00:55:13

run 10ks every day you're only going to

00:55:14

do six you'd be like oh easy yeah and

00:55:18

then and then of course by the end and

00:55:19

then on the on the Saturday he goes

00:55:20

right we're going to do like a 5k as

00:55:22

fast as you can yeah and you'll just be

00:55:23

like boof and then like yeah and it's

00:55:26

getting fresh because you fresh and so

00:55:28

that's what happens is that you go in

00:55:30

cycles and you just realize that at one

00:55:32

point in time the reason that they push

00:55:35

you right down is to basically wear you

00:55:37

as far down as you can so that then you

00:55:40

go up build you up again and so you're

00:55:42

gonna you're gonna find that and you

00:55:43

might find it multiple times but that's

00:55:45

it so just realize that it's a it's a

00:55:48

long game yeah that's a long game if you

00:55:50

feel like that like a week out from a

00:55:51

race

00:55:52

you might have over trained or you could

00:55:55

be sick or whatever but if it's in a

00:55:57

training block that's how you should

00:55:58

feel you shouldn't feel fresh every day

00:56:00

sounds like you guys have a train but

00:56:01

you always seem to get it right

00:56:03

yeah but that's what peaking's about and

00:56:06

and you've got to trust like everyone

00:56:07

knows what peaking's about you know you

00:56:09

freshen up you do less K's you start off

00:56:11

your leg Yeah like a taper period

00:56:15

um greatest achievement outside of

00:56:16

rowing

00:56:18

ah greatest achievement holy [ __ ]

00:56:21

um that's a good question isn't it

00:56:23

that's it of course it's it uh yeah I

00:56:25

mean let's do uh greatest achievement

00:56:27

[ __ ] I don't know

00:56:29

um

00:56:30

Jesus what have I done uh I'm down on a

00:56:32

two handicap in golf that's a good

00:56:34

achievement that is a low handicap yeah

00:56:35

I probably used to do this Sunday like

00:56:37

um dealing with the kids that has um you

00:56:40

know extra needs achievement I don't

00:56:41

know

00:56:42

yeah if not rowing what

00:56:46

uh I wish I wish I'd been a golfer I'm

00:56:50

obsessed with golf a if you're on a

00:56:52

two-handed kept your mouth to me I love

00:56:55

it it's such a [ __ ] cooker I played

00:56:56

it as a kid and because it's just like

00:57:00

coming from being a professional athlete

00:57:02

like you know knowing and everything

00:57:04

golf is just it's inches it's

00:57:07

millimeters it's [ __ ] tiny you know

00:57:09

and like

00:57:10

you got ah mate we

00:57:13

started

00:57:15

I am a golf tragic now I'm not gonna lie

00:57:18

um once yet what's your strength is it

00:57:20

like you drive like yeah you've got a

00:57:21

big powerful drive or just trying to no

00:57:24

statistics right if you get it in the

00:57:26

freeway you're probably going to get it

00:57:28

on well you've got a better chat you've

00:57:29

got a statistically better chance of

00:57:30

getting on the ground in regulation and

00:57:32

Regulation and then you can get it on

00:57:33

the green and then you try and close the

00:57:35

distance down because if you've got a

00:57:36

20-foot putt you're [ __ ] not gonna

00:57:37

make it yeah you've got an eight foot

00:57:39

putt you've got a

00:57:40

70 chance of getting in the hole and

00:57:43

then inside six feet you've got a you've

00:57:45

got a s you've got an eighty percent you

00:57:47

know like my God you're so annoying

00:57:51

just drive yourself crazy you can't you

00:57:53

can't do anything for fun golf suppose I

00:57:55

don't know but I but but if I if I miss

00:57:57

one of those things I'm like oh well I

00:57:59

missed it right whatever right so you're

00:58:01

not throwing your clubs no no I'm my

00:58:03

mate's throwing my club [ __ ] it's funny

00:58:05

and they just throw clubs they're like

00:58:07

[ __ ] [ __ ] Muppet and I'm like come on

00:58:10

boys if you even if you just like learn

00:58:13

how to play it because most people are

00:58:14

going to learn at some stage you'll go

00:58:15

to a driving range for a stag do or

00:58:17

whatever it is you just hit that one

00:58:19

ball you're like yeah holy [ __ ] here we

00:58:21

go and then of course when you're on the

00:58:23

golf course a lot of golf courses like

00:58:24

take a few beers in the bag just go play

00:58:26

nine holes sit at the bar

00:58:29

but it's the social side of it as well

00:58:31

which I think is there and and there's

00:58:33

some people that are like I'm not into

00:58:35

Super Fitness like cardio or lifting

00:58:37

weights or whatever but you can swing

00:58:38

golf club and just walk around have a

00:58:41

good time

00:58:42

yeah and a lot of women yeah I play with

00:58:44

a lot of women that like older women

00:58:46

that just like playing their golf it's

00:58:47

great

00:58:48

what I'd give to player for ladies tease

00:58:50

oh yeah

00:58:53

um

00:58:54

someone said what what made your peer so

00:58:56

good

00:58:57

you and yeah why how are you is it

00:59:00

training

00:59:01

it was all me yeah no was it was it

00:59:04

training or was it just a perfect mix of

00:59:06

personality is it the right yeah uh

00:59:09

training the the difference between the

00:59:12

differences of ourselves

00:59:14

so what Hamish bought and what I bought

00:59:17

um but yet A lot of it was just the

00:59:20

training of wanting to be the best you

00:59:22

just had Hamish who was just like [ __ ]

00:59:24

if he even if he lost a training he'd be

00:59:26

pursed off and so you just got this

00:59:28

super competitive guy that's just trying

00:59:30

to be out but like just beat everybody

00:59:32

and then I wanted to win I probably

00:59:35

wasn't that pedantic about like if I

00:59:37

lost a couple of races like in or even

00:59:40

trainings I wouldn't give a [ __ ] yeah

00:59:41

Hamish would just be like Nat I am back

00:59:44

and I'm going to be number one all the

00:59:45

time

00:59:46

so the differences of ourselves made it

00:59:49

good and we just managed to make a

00:59:51

combination that will literally stand

00:59:53

the test of time yeah absolutely iconic

00:59:56

iconic Duo yep it's like like Savage

00:59:58

Garden or something yeah

01:00:05

no it's absolutely outstanding yeah it's

01:00:07

incredible

01:00:08

um I think that'll do it but I don't

01:00:10

know we've got through a six pack and um

01:00:12

a bottle of Roseate which you brought

01:00:13

around

01:00:14

it's been good I am good luck for

01:00:16

Dancing With the Stars yeah thanks buddy

01:00:18

I'm really excited excited to see how

01:00:19

you go because I I don't know it seems

01:00:22

like you you are unable to do anything

01:00:23

without overthinking it and we're

01:00:27

working out how to how to crack the code

01:00:29

you know what I mean I think to be fair

01:00:31

with this I think cracking the code is

01:00:33

just getting advice

01:00:34

uh to be fair uh yeah you gotta you

01:00:37

gotta look pretty good but I'm just

01:00:39

gonna try and do the best that I can and

01:00:40

it's something like honestly this is

01:00:42

this is something I've never done you

01:00:44

know and so in a way you kill so many

01:00:47

birds with one stone where you where

01:00:49

you're trying to you're doing something

01:00:51

you've never done before you're pushing

01:00:52

your comfort zone it's a challenge

01:00:54

you're doing it for charity

01:00:57

um [ __ ] make some profile if I can

01:00:58

get some cash off the side of it it's

01:01:00

great you know what I mean so this oh

01:01:01

for you personally or for the Charities

01:01:04

the money maybe it's changed but when

01:01:07

Randa was doing it a couple of years ago

01:01:08

and then JJ yeah a couple years before

01:01:10

that it's a pretty [ __ ] hourly rate it's

01:01:13

not a great way yeah but yeah and that's

01:01:15

the thing is it's like you're taking

01:01:16

time out of your own schedule and then

01:01:18

you're sort of just replacing your

01:01:19

schedule with us and and that's what it

01:01:21

is for me but if it can create more than

01:01:24

that yeah uh you've got to like I just

01:01:27

feel I gotta do it and and that's what

01:01:29

I'm trying to do at the moment you know

01:01:30

because I've got city boy you know and

01:01:32

and the autism side of things so if I

01:01:34

can create more awareness and it helps

01:01:37

change not only him but other people on

01:01:40

the autistic spectrum and the government

01:01:41

level if I can get up to that level

01:01:43

you're making a difference yeah

01:01:46

just trying to do that and it must be

01:01:48

nice for you to do this at um the age 37

01:01:50

now because I'm guessing uh for a lot of

01:01:52

your wrong achievements he was probably

01:01:53

some are too young to appreciate what

01:01:55

was yeah yeah no he was he was um uh I

01:01:58

finished Rio and he was he just turned

01:02:01

five right oh this is devastating so

01:02:03

you're the best in the world and he's

01:02:05

too young to remember now you're gonna

01:02:06

be a goose on the TV and he just and he

01:02:08

just plays he used to play with the gold

01:02:09

medals and like throw him in his toy box

01:02:11

and it was one time the media cat they

01:02:14

came around to do like an interview or

01:02:15

something and I said Jackie it was in

01:02:17

the middle and she's like what do you

01:02:18

mean they're on the thing over there and

01:02:19

I'm like no they're not she's like what

01:02:23

and I knew that he used to take them

01:02:24

down and he like used to put like he had

01:02:26

them in his room or something and he

01:02:28

[ __ ] threw him in the toy box with

01:02:29

all his toys

01:02:30

and they said they've got a few big

01:02:33

things and [ __ ] on them but hey who

01:02:34

cares yeah they've um yeah that for

01:02:36

sharing but I had um I had Hayden Wild

01:02:38

on the the podcast he got a bronzeman on

01:02:40

the triathlon at the Olympics last year

01:02:42

he said if you lose it or it gets stolen

01:02:44

they can't be replaced ah nah

01:02:47

so they make they make like say this say

01:02:51

there's 300 gold medals given away which

01:02:53

is like teams events blah blah blah they

01:02:55

make like 350 and the other 50 go to

01:02:58

like museums and sporting Hall of Fame

01:03:01

places and all this sort of stuff so if

01:03:03

you do it you'd have to go and like

01:03:05

insurance doesn't even cover it I think

01:03:08

in the right situation because they'd

01:03:09

have to take the mold and then re-smelt

01:03:12

a one right so you wanted to go to like

01:03:14

yeah so one off so it's like firing up

01:03:16

something to do the you know you know

01:03:19

what I mean yeah and I'm sure it's not

01:03:20

just one pattern

01:03:22

and the mold because they're not just

01:03:24

going to make one pattern and repeat it

01:03:26

300 times yeah they're going to make one

01:03:28

that does 50 and do it five times yeah

01:03:30

sure so you know what I mean he's even

01:03:33

put thought into this how they make the

01:03:34

metals because I have well if you pay a

01:03:38

lot of people ask that same question

01:03:39

they're like well what if you lost it in

01:03:40

because they're like trying to be a

01:03:41

smart ass going oh yeah what if we stole

01:03:43

it off you I'll be like oh I guess but

01:03:46

to the end of the middles that

01:03:47

themselves I mean you you're on the

01:03:50

internet forever like it's it's a

01:03:52

tangible reward and yeah like as I say

01:03:56

like like now The Middle's just sort of

01:03:58

[ __ ] home what are they doing they

01:04:00

dust them off the other day yeah do you

01:04:02

know and so like and then some people

01:04:04

put them in cases so yeah the metals are

01:04:06

tangible reward but you'll never lose

01:04:08

the status of being an Olympic champion

01:04:11

yeah simple as that yeah well I've I've

01:04:14

had enough Barry McGee who won a bronze

01:04:17

medal in the um 1960 Rome Olympic

01:04:19

marathon and yeah season has late 80s

01:04:21

now and he's still got his framed enough

01:04:22

on the wall yeah along with this um

01:04:24

Olympic participation certificate yeah

01:04:26

yeah I've

01:04:28

a lot of it's just sitting in the box

01:04:29

but

01:04:30

um that's it like whether you're going

01:04:31

to put it on the wall I don't

01:04:34

know it's just like because sometimes

01:04:35

people want to touch it or they want to

01:04:37

play you know whatever and so you're

01:04:38

like well do I put it in the case do I

01:04:39

put it here and you're just like no

01:04:40

whatever and I think a lot it's just so

01:04:42

different with everyone yeah maybe it'll

01:04:44

have a life of its own and as you get

01:04:45

older you know they'll they'll mean

01:04:47

Morty is it at the moment it's like man

01:04:48

and if I ever get broke I'll just check

01:04:50

it on track I guess converters

01:04:53

yeah hey I'm Eric Murray bloody

01:04:55

wonderful to sit down with you thank you

01:04:57

for being so generous with your time

01:04:58

you're um you don't fit the mold of uh

01:05:01

like an Elite Sports person and I love

01:05:03

that about you halo I'm honestly this is

01:05:06

just the person I am man

01:05:08

authenticity is it's gold and I think

01:05:11

that's the great part about it is I've

01:05:12

never tried to change to do what I'm

01:05:14

like you know I I've probably gotta I do

01:05:17

have a business side to me when I need

01:05:19

to be like a little bit more uh clean

01:05:21

cut I guess but other than that I'm just

01:05:24

like genuine yeah just genuine kiwi

01:05:27

bloke yeah I love a beer love having fun

01:05:29

fart in public just have a laugh you

01:05:32

know what I mean just that type of

01:05:33

person yeah um and that's all I've ever

01:05:36

been yeah oh I Love It Don't Go Changing

01:05:38

okay sweet yeah

01:05:40

all right thanks mate thanks team

01:05:42

thank you very much for joining us

01:05:43

that's Runners only with dom Harvey

01:05:45

episode 16 part two of our chat with

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[Music]

In this lively episode of Runners Only, Dom Harvey continues his engaging conversation with Olympic champion Eric Murray, diving deep into the world of competitive rowing and the unique experiences that come with it. The duo shares hilarious anecdotes from their time in the Olympic Village, debunking myths about wild parties and revealing the reality of life as elite athletes. Eric opens up about the nerves and pressures of Olympic finals, emphasizing the importance of managing expectations and staying focused. The conversation takes a fun turn as they discuss Eric's current stint on Dancing With the Stars, where he hilariously admits to having two left feet but is determined to give it his all. Listeners are treated to insights about training, competition, and the camaraderie that defines Eric's relationship with his rowing partner, Hamish Bond. With plenty of laughs and heartfelt moments, this episode captures the essence of what it means to push boundaries and embrace new challenges, all while keeping it real and relatable.

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Episode Highlights

Olympic Nerves
Eric Murray shares his experience of dealing with nerves before Olympic finals.
“If you're not nervous, it doesn't mean enough.”
@ 03m 24s
October 19, 2022
Celebrating Olympic Gold
Eric talks about the relief and celebrations following their Olympic victory.
“Thank God that's over!”
@ 09m 30s
October 19, 2022
The Olympic Party Life
Eric reminisces about the party atmosphere during the Olympics.
“Every day was just like party, watch, support the team, repeat.”
@ 11m 45s
October 19, 2022
World Record Smash
The team unexpectedly breaks the world record by six seconds after a race.
“Holy [ __ ]! We smashed the world record!”
@ 18m 13s
October 19, 2022
The Power of Relaxation
The team's relaxed approach contributed to their record-breaking performance.
“We just clicked and went fast!”
@ 19m 30s
October 19, 2022
Pursuing Dreams
An inspiring message to young athletes about the value of the journey in sports.
“Just go for it! The journey alone is worth it.”
@ 29m 11s
October 19, 2022
Counterfeit iPhones in Beijing
In 2008, we bought counterfeit iPhones for just 50 bucks!
“Wow, we bought counterfeit iPhones for 50 bucks!”
@ 34m 31s
October 19, 2022
Biking Without Helmets
A late-night bike ride without helmets led to a close encounter with the police.
“I’m out, I don’t need a fight to start.”
@ 37m 41s
October 19, 2022
Dancing as a Popularity Contest
The competition is all about who has the most supporters.
“It’s a popularity contest at the end of the day.”
@ 42m 15s
October 19, 2022
The Philosophy of Coaching
A coach's tough love comes from a place of wanting you to win.
“If your coach tells you to do something, do it.”
@ 51m 25s
October 19, 2022
Facing Pre-Race Nerves
Understanding and managing anxiety is key to performance.
“You just deal with yourself and let everybody worry about themselves.”
@ 54m 01s
October 19, 2022
Dancing With the Stars
Eric discusses his excitement and challenges in joining the show.
“You’re doing something you’ve never done before; it’s a challenge.”
@ 01h 00m 54s
October 19, 2022

Episode Quotes

Key Moments

Olympic Nerves03:24
Celebration Relief09:30
Party Atmosphere11:45
Relaxed Performance19:30
Inspiring Journey29:11
Counterfeit iPhones34:31
Coaching Philosophy51:25
Managing Anxiety54:01

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