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How Mike King & John Kirwan Helped NZ’s Mental Health CRISIS

October 20, 202303:55
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guilt is I did something wrong shame is
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I am something wrong and I felt both of
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those things I did something wrong I am
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something wrong and then when I so I'm
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I'm was going to move forward so as I
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moved forward doing shop BR in the first
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year I had to go see a shrink again
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thanks to Mike King he shouted me a
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shrink cuz i' hadn't seen one for a
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while and I had all the stuff started
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come out being sexually molested and I
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thought I was holding M memories for
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somebody else that's how my mind was
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dealing with this oh you're holding like
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a memory s someone gave me a memory
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stick oh these aren't my memories I must
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be holding this for somebody else and I
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didn't realize that those memories were
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my memories of me that i' suppressed so
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I've got all the stuff suppressed
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brother that's and when I meet people
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have been through trauma even wor way
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worse than I've been we compartmentalize
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it to survive so we pack it away to try
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and move on but you don't realize
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throughout your life your fight flight
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or freeze yeah and your interactions you
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don't even know that are Guided by those
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three pillars
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and so you when you don't know what's
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wrong with you you'll just keep
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continuing this this way of Behaving and
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when I metet other people like me male
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and female who've been on the journey uh
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we've got so many similar traits like a
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physical mental spiritual Outlet to help
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others show them like hey man you're not
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crazy you're hurting cuz I was told I
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was crazy and then either that I was
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dismissed yeah who who told you you were
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crazy people were telling me crazy right
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and I'm saying you know and think about
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families families don't want to deal
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with your mental illness which is I'm
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not blaming families I'm just saying
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they don't have the tools to deal with
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it and our parents generation and our
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grandparents generation this was this
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was one of the ultimate shames to have
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have somebody with mental having a
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mental breakdown so all of that stuff is
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buried and you're dismissed you're
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either dismissed and dissolved or told
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to just shut your mouth yeah can I just
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share a little on her side that when she
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said about about the John Coan head when
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John Coan would speak about his problems
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on the TV and no was around I'd be
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telling John to shut up because him
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talking was irritating my demons and so
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as I go around australasia sometimes me
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talking irritates other people's demons
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cuz they don't want to hear it they've
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they've drunk enough done enough drugs
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or done enough whatever they have to
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squash it down and when someone else is
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speaking as freely as you and I are on
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the couch over there could be somebody
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going what those two would shut the f up
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because man that's freaking me out and
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so I understand that now before I used
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to think I was I was the problem by for
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for talking about I used to have been
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made to think that I was crazy cuz I was
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speaking out aloud what I realiz that
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you're crazy if you don't address this
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you talk about s Sir John Ken Mike King
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Mike King help me on my journey and um
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did you did you know Mike before 2009 no
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I mean of course I knew who he was but I
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didn't know him at all so my mental
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breakdown I ended up on the nut club
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which was uh which is still going it's a
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great show um talking about mental
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health openly and I'd never met so I met
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Mike King and and his right one of his
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right-hand men uh Boris srov and I'd
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never heard two males ever speak so
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openly and vulnerably and normally about
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mental health and it freaked me out I
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thought this must be an alien planet
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I've never heard men speak like this
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before and it helped change the game for
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me not then cuz it freaked me out but
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much later down the track when I started
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the shop bro journey I realized where
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the doorway was cuz two Brave males
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showed me what it's like to talk
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normally about your mental health yeah
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and I suppose um in a way like the nuts
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club and that platform that they gave
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you that's um it's kind of like the brne
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brown thing it's like you show
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vulnerability and like you put your
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cards on the table and then lets the
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other person know that it's a safe space
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and they can put their cards on the
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table too

Podspun Insights

In this episode, the conversation dives deep into the complexities of mental health, exploring the nuances of guilt and shame. The guest shares their personal journey of confronting suppressed memories of trauma, revealing how these experiences shape behavior and relationships. The candid discussion highlights the importance of vulnerability in mental health conversations, particularly among men, and how societal stigma often leads to silence and misunderstanding. With humor and raw honesty, the episode serves as a reminder that sharing one’s struggles can create a safe space for others to do the same, fostering connection and healing.

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This episode stands out for the following:

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    Most quotable
  • 90
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  • 90
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  • 89
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Episode Highlights

  • The Importance of Open Conversations
    Meeting Mike King changed everything; he showed how men can openly discuss mental health.
    “I've never heard men speak like this before.”
    @ 03m 16s
    October 20, 2023
  • Creating Safe Spaces
    Vulnerability fosters connection; sharing experiences can help others feel safe to open up.
    “You show vulnerability and put your cards on the table.”
    @ 03m 46s
    October 20, 2023

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  • Mental Health Journey03:00
  • Vulnerability Matters03:46

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