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guilt is I did something wrong shame is
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I am something wrong and I felt both of
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those things I did something wrong I am
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something wrong and then when I so I'm
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I'm was going to move forward so as I
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moved forward doing shop BR in the first
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year I had to go see a shrink again
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thanks to Mike King he shouted me a
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shrink cuz i' hadn't seen one for a
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while and I had all the stuff started
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come out being sexually molested and I
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thought I was holding M memories for
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somebody else that's how my mind was
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dealing with this oh you're holding like
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a memory s someone gave me a memory
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stick oh these aren't my memories I must
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be holding this for somebody else and I
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didn't realize that those memories were
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my memories of me that i' suppressed so
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I've got all the stuff suppressed
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brother that's and when I meet people
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have been through trauma even wor way
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worse than I've been we compartmentalize
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it to survive so we pack it away to try
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and move on but you don't realize
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throughout your life your fight flight
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or freeze yeah and your interactions you
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don't even know that are Guided by those
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three pillars
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and so you when you don't know what's
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wrong with you you'll just keep
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continuing this this way of Behaving and
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when I metet other people like me male
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and female who've been on the journey uh
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we've got so many similar traits like a
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physical mental spiritual Outlet to help
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others show them like hey man you're not
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crazy you're hurting cuz I was told I
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was crazy and then either that I was
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dismissed yeah who who told you you were
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crazy people were telling me crazy right
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and I'm saying you know and think about
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families families don't want to deal
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with your mental illness which is I'm
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not blaming families I'm just saying
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they don't have the tools to deal with
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it and our parents generation and our
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grandparents generation this was this
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was one of the ultimate shames to have
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have somebody with mental having a
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mental breakdown so all of that stuff is
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buried and you're dismissed you're
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either dismissed and dissolved or told
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to just shut your mouth yeah can I just
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share a little on her side that when she
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said about about the John Coan head when
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John Coan would speak about his problems
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on the TV and no was around I'd be
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telling John to shut up because him
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talking was irritating my demons and so
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as I go around australasia sometimes me
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talking irritates other people's demons
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cuz they don't want to hear it they've
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they've drunk enough done enough drugs
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or done enough whatever they have to
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squash it down and when someone else is
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speaking as freely as you and I are on
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the couch over there could be somebody
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going what those two would shut the f up
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because man that's freaking me out and
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so I understand that now before I used
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to think I was I was the problem by for
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for talking about I used to have been
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made to think that I was crazy cuz I was
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speaking out aloud what I realiz that
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you're crazy if you don't address this
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you talk about s Sir John Ken Mike King
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Mike King help me on my journey and um
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did you did you know Mike before 2009 no
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I mean of course I knew who he was but I
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didn't know him at all so my mental
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breakdown I ended up on the nut club
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which was uh which is still going it's a
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great show um talking about mental
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health openly and I'd never met so I met
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Mike King and and his right one of his
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right-hand men uh Boris srov and I'd
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never heard two males ever speak so
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openly and vulnerably and normally about
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mental health and it freaked me out I
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thought this must be an alien planet
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I've never heard men speak like this
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before and it helped change the game for
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me not then cuz it freaked me out but
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much later down the track when I started
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the shop bro journey I realized where
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the doorway was cuz two Brave males
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showed me what it's like to talk
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normally about your mental health yeah
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and I suppose um in a way like the nuts
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club and that platform that they gave
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you that's um it's kind of like the brne
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brown thing it's like you show
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vulnerability and like you put your
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cards on the table and then lets the
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other person know that it's a safe space
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and they can put their cards on the
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table too











