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well I have to tell you Dana remember when they had the um Punxsutawney Phil do you know who that is that's the
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little rodent that predicts winter oh yeah and he comes out but they they they
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back in winter when that happened I remember someone leaked that he's a republican so now they're Shadow Banning
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him really hmm
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it's kind of fun I mean it's kind of it's good anyway Jon Hamm Jon Hamm is a
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hand and better news John it's being Jon Hamm is a by the way great dude
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obviously he's a stud obviously he's good looking I'm I'm sure he's tired I would never be tired of being called good looking I'm sure he is because it
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feels like it takes away that he's good you I would be flattered if anyone had
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ever written a review about me saying despite his good looks yeah and then the
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rest of the review stunningly attractive does not begin to express but John M
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what's great about him and there's not that many of them like leading man brilliant dramatic actor Mad Men
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literally was empathized by that show we just watched the entire last year that
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all of Mad Men so that's brilliant and then he's he really wants he's a comedian too it was great on us and he
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likes comedy and he gets into it he was also in the town which was a [ __ ] I love the town tons of movies yeah uh and
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he loves to be in the comedy world and get in the mix sort of got that Tom Hanks Vibe where he likes to get in and
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Alec Baldwin those guys just get in there and be funny and come to show and do whatever you want he's also popping
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in movies and bridesmaids of course some other ones so I like the guy I don't
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know him really well but I see him out he's on curb too also I get a little offended when all the other guys are on
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all these comedy shows and you go what about the comedy people the actual kind of people that do nothing else and never
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been accused of being good looking and in reviews they only get this chick would never be with this [ __ ] and I'm like every single movie yeah we
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don't even know who the leading lady is but not a chance this is a perennial virgin David Spade tonight on Action
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News I'm Tony fenavo and we have we're out and uh because it's been down a place where this movie stars [ __ ] face
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whatever his name is I'm like you can't even look to see what my name is because you forgot it for one second Face McGee is starring once again in some dog [ __ ]
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you know what they said on the wrong Missy the best review I got was uh it's a delightful piece of [ __ ] that's what a
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guy said and I go okay damn I you know I love the way the metrics are different rather than box
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office they say what was it what was it called Missy what world Missy wrong missing wrong Missy got like two billion
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minutes yes wasn't it something like that but no one will give it up they're like I think it was the eighth
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for two billion minutes yeah and they're like but I mean I a lot of the reviews
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are like I watched it all and laughed a lot but don't worry it's shitty and I'm like well for a shitty movie this that
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you could do worse you know the third time I saw it I was like hi I'm Johnny backhanded compliment yeah that's how it
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was It's like because they have to tell the reviewer buddies they do not like it so they go it's funny I mean I don't
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like it don't get me wrong but I did laugh you know what I found myself as the other key
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um not very witty not very Charming sometimes stupid but I found myself
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laughing several times I'm Johnny backhand for Passive aggressivenews.com
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that's speaking of bad reviews Jon Hamm gets none he's good John M has you know
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talk about open range with Costa John has what you call a good old-fashioned range yeah and when he did madman when I
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first discovered him and then seen him in later things he literally changes his face subtly and made his voice deeper I
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don't know who you are and I don't know what you think but the all-new Chevy he also has a great voice over artist yeah
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and he can make himself be I think he can literally make himself super handsome then he has a way medium
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handsome lowers the chin shoulders back little high-waisted jeans and then he
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can go to kind of to play the hobo you know yeah I've uh in the Guinness book
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for playing the same character for 22 years uh in every different thing I'm hoping that if we get to season three of
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fly on the wall that people literally will be going David Dana Dana David
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who's who why is their hair melding into them and why does Dana have unorganized
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facial hair and David has like a little mustache and a goatee and then it's all empty and this is all basically the same I know I hate this believe me I don't
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like it I just do it because it looks worse without it all right let's go to Jon Hamm people are sick of us Jon Hamm folks
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[Music]
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all right I heard the Regal Beagle flying in yeah
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this is it man this is not gonna be we're always gonna be your nickname Spader Eagle big
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you can always test how old people are if they see your shoes this Regal Beagle either get or they don't and no one gets
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it you do I do I do indeed John it's good to see you bud John Hamm is uh we
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already introduced him right okay do we start yeah right we we've been going for about 20.
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so when you get up in the morning you have your list you're gonna do this call this person uh podcast at 11 with spade
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and Carvey what are you gonna make you happy or is that red letter Dave you caught me right before I'm going to uh
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I'm leaving the country too I leave on a vacation uh tomorrow so could we get the
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airline and flight number just out of total curiosity I'm an airplane nut we're going to Kiev I don't know it
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sounded fun I don't it seemed like a place to go leave me alone listen uh uh
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what is going on with Sean Penn's over there what's he filming I don't know you know Sean Penn is a he's a he likes a
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hot spot he goes to the hot spots he brings a kayak he brings everything he
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needs in case he brings Band-Aids and my kids went to high school together
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oh well up here in Northern California and uh during I think it was Katrina
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um all of a sudden he was in a rowboat in New Orleans or something yeah so Sean does does get into the mall
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he'll go to New Orleans wherever you need him Swiss army knife on him at all times Leatherman Southwest I switched to
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another man joke and just sort of cleaned it up and said Swiss army knife sounded like I would
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understand that well I am going to Switzerland are you for real what are you gonna do uh ski ski
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yeah I've never never been skiing in uh in the Alps I've never really learned about this place well wait a minute were
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you someone who could ski as a kid as a Young Man here's what my first ski lesson was it was in St Louis Missouri
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on a frozen golf course and my my friends uh who all knew how to ski said
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just keep your skis pointed and keep your uh keep your weight on your downhill ski and then pushed me and so I
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wow immediately couldn't figure out they're both pointing downhill for me so I didn't know which was which and I
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immediately fell down the parents at school they'd all come in on crutches like around December yeah they go to
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Lake Tahoe to ski and then they don't be kind of in a boot for a while yeah we had a we had a big uh diaspora of rich
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kids that went to uh like you know Aspen and Breckenridge in like Colorado that
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was the move but I was not wealthy let me tell you about my first king Dana give me 20 minutes here
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um I went to uh ice ice I snow plow I ski like I'm looking for a contact lens
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you know okay so I I'm not good my friends go the best way to learn is go to the top of the hill but it's really
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to ditch me you know so I have all the green runs I go let's go down Pop Tart and they all go no we're gonna go down
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Devils Devil's ball sack I go no no that one sounds hard I go listen I I worked
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out we're gonna go down Santa Claus into Jelly Bean and then into candy corn and
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then uh pillow town and they go no yeah Hitler's abortion like no yeah Hitler's
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abortion here we go and I go no no that one it's not on the map but that sounds hard um not even a thing
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and so the point is Dana some of those sound hard I'm enjoying this very much
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that that chunk ever find its way in here yeah it was my last special okay got it bit alert I remember it but I was
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too kind to bring it up I dodged up I dodged it I dodged a train not a bit
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cross-country skiing with my brother and his wife and in the woods lost noise and
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then suddenly a train and we dove into the embankment not funny a train a train
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you didn't see the tracks we did the tracks were covered it was really quiet maybe we're kind of yelling or whatever
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and it probably was it was coming around to bend and then
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wow I mean it wasn't like one second we would have been dead but it was like you know five seconds just proves the old
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saying never go cross-country skiing yeah and always dive away from a train that's
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coming at you that's what I say now what's what's your favorite podcast you've been on so far in the last since
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the pandemic John because we want to do it on top this is a this is a this is up there I was very much looking forward to
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this now I you know I know both of you sort of separately um and here and there but it was it was
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a very exciting thing to be asked to be a part of so I mean it's the jury's still out but I mean I mean I guess it's
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uh show business but yeah we're thrilled to have you on the show thrilled we did
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a deep dive we do our homework John's from St Louis Dana where my daughter lives isn't that real St Louis Missouri
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doing in St Louis well actually I'm sorry yeah
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well we'll get to that later we all do Woody Allen I don't mean to be didactic
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or facetious oh you're a wonderful guy no he's a beautiful intelligent woman it's just at the location it's a
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sensitive you know I I'm fear of rock croppings over age you know sorry she
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lives where it gets a little more good-looking towards Springfield where Brad Pitt's from okay that's a good plan
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like it oh here's Brad Pitt from uh Once Upon a Time in Hollywood go ahead yeah let's face it buddy this is Leo let's
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face it but I'm a goddamn headspan would that guy say to you you want me to go to
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Italy and do Italian movies don't cry in front of the Mexicans look I'm your gopher man and I kind of like watching
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your house up in the hills all when you go off and do your things but where I come from going to Italy and doing an
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Italian movie ain't the worst of it the thing did you see the movie John I did yeah I was like does John seen it
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I was I was I was wordlessly enjoying that do you watch your movies and
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television shows yes uh I wouldn't say I've watched I wouldn't say I seek them out but if they
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happen to be on and I'm in the mood yeah for sure because John Levitz on Monday would be down the hall with a VCR
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watching Saturday Night Live diagnosis and laughing his ass off at
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his sketches I always felt I would look at them but it trepidatiously like feel
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like I'd be too critical or too self-conscious you know you know it's it's funny I guess having done you know
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we did 90 some odd episodes of Mad Men so I'll I'll pause if one happens to be on and I'll click on it I'll go like oh
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when was this like what was going on in my life and what was happening yeah sometimes you go I remember that day it
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was cold and we came to the set late there was a problem with the lights sometimes that's I have no I mean the
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show debuted fifth over 15 000. I think the debut was 2006
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so whatever that is 16 years ago and it went off the air in 2015 so
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that's seven years ago so it's a very uh it's very weird it's like well if I was
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in a show that good I think I might look at it you know like I said like Bert Lancaster I did a movie with him once he
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goes how are you going to be in television you've got no Chin so I don't look great in a profile like I'm gonna
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be fine you know so but if you have a movie star head like yeah he does movie
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star heads are different you know there's you know I don't know James Brolin from back in the day Roland's got
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a big dome and it's just a good Cranium and then a chicken it's a it's a it puts
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you in your place too being in the SNL uh makeup Department because you see all of the heads of all of the people over
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the years lined up like little soldiers and uh I
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will say I was in the probably in the top one percentile of head size in that uh in that room
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I think only uh only Affleck and uh Brolin had me really uh on head size
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yeah Affleck has a noggin arm you know who told me George Siegel I did a show with him and he said I have a movie star
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head meaning him he said you don't meaning me and um he said you might have trouble in
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the movies and I said well thanks for that is that the same thing is that where these [ __ ] yeah [ __ ] me so
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excited about his big fat head but we're comedians I'm just going check to check here I don't know what's next
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but I have a two-part question for uh John is John is okay okay I have a I
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have a three part can I first just insert sure insert because we'll get it out of the way my Don Draper impression
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yeah oh yes Don Draper is asked to give someone a ride to the airport
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I don't even know you that's it wait that's it no that's not
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bad though well I can't it's a soft one I don't even like is that your hook John is that that line is your I see it memes
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he's on memes a lot oh uh on Instagram yeah I don't I've
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seen some of the memes I don't I don't know if that's one of them I know there's one of me like laughing and
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drinking that it gets used quite a bit but uh that might be a gif
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yeah no no one no one in the history of film or television has made a smoking a
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cigarette cooler yeah there's it's it's pretty it's
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pretty rare company that's for sure there's uh you really got that it makes you cooler for sure I mean what makes
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you sicker yeah I mean well there's a big difference look the science isn't in table the lung
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damage let's just go with how hip it is to the way you did that the science is on its way in but I you know some early
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reports say it's bad for you but I say it looks cool so it's sort of a coin
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toss I say you know do your own research yes all right I have another question a
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30-second complex we complement our our guests here but this is just an observation for me is
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that when I watch I Daniel Craig doing James Bond then I met him at the Oscars
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name drop go and he's still Daniel Craig but he does this thing that becomes
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James Bond and I've felt that you did the exact same thing thing on Mad Men
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you have Jon Hamm and then either your jaw or your shoulders just like
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yeah just an interesting connection for me I really felt that so there is a there is a part of it you know that's uh
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that's very you know depend obviously you know when I'm wearing the suit and the thing and the hair slick back and all that stuff it's obviously very
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different the way you carry yourself there's very much a you know I am I'm playing a character on that it's not
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just me wondering Daniel Craig is a character actor and I think you are too yeah I mean I I remember the first time
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I hosted the show we had a we had several Mad Men sketches at 27. sure they load them up yeah because
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you're gonna get one at least so you might as well throw everything yeah one made it on the air yeah for sure uh but
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uh it was funny because like uh you know I spent the time up to then
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doing other sketches and reading you know various funny parts and this isn't that some as soon as it got to the Don
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Draper I sort of dropped into the Don Draper voice and everybody kind of went oh it's a character every girl slid off
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her chair that's what that sounds yeah and the Cadence the Rhythm I mean you're married with the right very much
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very cool David did you have something before I interrupted your 20 minutes thank you Dana I'll get back to you I
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have too many one was I was in at the Mirage this weekend Oh I appear there sometimes whoops but I was with first I
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saw on TV I watched Mr Mrs Jones keeping up with the Joneses yes okay yep
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is that what they the final title was yeah yeah they they went with that and then uh and he's a stunning that and I
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go you work with Zach and uh Gall is that how you say your name Gaul okay yep Gal Gadot Jesus Christ she's beautiful
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and then um it's it's arresting thanks I mean I'd be sick so you did a good job in that because it
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was so funny I was about to see you and I was about to come dink around and look at your stuff when I got home and I go
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oh I get to watch this and uh what a fun sort of different movie to be in and then I was with Ray Romano we do shows
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together and we golf sometimes and then talk about a quick impression I think Dana he does a Ray Romano
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and I [ __ ] work with him well we always there was a joke that we had going on I forget who started it
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um but there was a it was always like that you could do uh Brad Garrett and Ray Romano very like
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having conversations and you're right you know right he's back here oh come on and then and then Brad Garrett is uh
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Raymond so he's just back and forth come on Raymond come on man yeah it's really
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Lenny and Squiggy there's different versions that's it see I love micro Impressions where it's it's just the
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essence you don't need to say anything more I love Ray he's the he's I mean everybody loves him it's been established at this point they named a
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show after that concept uh but uh yeah he's he's awesome super sweet here's here's my Barney five and
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so that's only one word all you need Barney fight oh Andy oh Ranch
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here's my uh Christopher Watkins sees a magic trick quick wow
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that's it we're done boom hey Dana did I tell you and John you can listen when I
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um when Aykroyd said we should do Mayberry me and him I should that was back after cones he goes you know maybe
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we should do well Mayberry RFD I play Andy Griffith you play uh you gotta save the money you know you gotta save the
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money and then it was always very business we went off about aliens but yeah I love Danny Ackroyd and uh that we
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should have done it well let's think for a second of a job that is too late I guess
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in a serious live streaming we call Ted at Netflix you're already on FX Hulu
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you're everywhere but by the way on sequire I love the Apple commercial oh
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thank you what about John Howe or what happened yeah everybody but John Hamm uh
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I mean that is so that was the name of the commercial was that the name of the commercial yeah that was the name of it
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because they say it on the top in quotes when you get your like call she everybody but Jonah the hammer
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and just the way you played it it was funny too like my friend a guy who I've known who's a buddy of mine you guys may
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or may not have met my my tall my very tall friend named tall John who is the comedy writer used to write for Sarasota
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well he works sir yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah I think you've met him at Largo what happened and uh it's hard he's hard to miss he's 6'10 but uh he uh
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he used to write promos for the WB back in the back in the day he and Drew Goddard and this guy Wayne mclammy who
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was directing it he used to direct the promos so it was like we used to all go out and get beers and stuff and hang out
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in the late 90s in La when we had no money and we would go to Largo or we would go see comedy or what have you and
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uh and now uh it was very strange to like see that dude on a set of a commercial that that uh I was sort of
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nominally the star of which was was pretty cool well the tall guy he would be at um Sarah Silverman's roof party he
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would actually stand on the sidewalk and we'd be on the roof um but uh you know you would go to Largo
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would you go to Largo a lot because I know you like comedy and you'd go see something yeah that was my that was my entree into sort of cheap entertainment
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because uh great L.A even back then was expensive right did not have much money
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and so for you know whatever two five dollar drinks or whatever it was and and I I didn't have to wait in line because
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I usually knew somebody and I got to know flanny and and the guy the game nicest club owner yeah he's great but it
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was a pretty it was a pretty hot Moment In Time the late 90s and you know it was everyone from you know Zach was just
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starting up he had that weird show on VH1 oh yeah that's right yeah yeah odd fit and then and then guys like you know
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Bob Odenkirk and Sarah and Tenacious D [ __ ] Paul F and Doug Benson just all all
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those guys now that are sort of the the Eminence grease of of uh of of La comedy
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is is uh that's when they were all going it was five bucks it was like it's great it's still I don't think it's that
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expensive Largo is still a great place to go run stuff or go just jump on somebody's show or I think the last time
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I saw you was it was that oh yeah Sarah I think so there's a photo of you me and Sarah did we take a picture
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yeah all right oh okay posted a lot uh
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I tagged the [ __ ] out of you in that picture I think um anyway can we for a second talk about
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like just right before Mad Men yes and SNL because that's really interesting because people are explosions our
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listeners may not know this so you literally were still you came to La you were still not working making a living
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as an actor till 29 or 30. so you had years of waitering I mean I was just yeah how long that that go on because uh
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well when I got to L.A I moved out to LA in 95. so yeah and I and I didn't stop waiting tables until I was 29 so I had
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about four years of of kind of roaming the desert so to speak and weirdly enough I got I got a text from a number
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that I didn't recognize uh about a month ago saying hey is this is this John Hamm
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that used to work at this restaurant work at down in Venice and I said okay I
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haven't yes this is but that's a very weird way to refer to me but okay yes yeah and they were it used to be owned
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by Dudley Moore and Tony bill it was called 72 Market Street it's not there anymore
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um but it was like a really cool Venice Restaurant you know Sean Penn and
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Angelica Houston and Robert Graham and all the cool West Side folks would hang out there and I was a waiter there and
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so uh that was the first time I ever saw Paparazzi Richard Gere came in with uh someone who wasn't Cindy Crawford he was
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broken up with Cindy Crawford and it was like it just went crazy yeah um so anyway there have they were having
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a reunion of this thing so they're trying to get everybody that used to work there and uh yeah fun fact the guy
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I worked with at that restaurant left the job to go to Juilliard and I didn't
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see him again until the Pilot of Mad Men where he played the young tobacco executive like the the younger version
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did you wait on famous people like that you admired and stuff did you wait on
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famous I you know the only time I really waited on anybody famous was Don Henley once oh okay couldn't
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have been nicer there was a run there when Mitch Glazer
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who you probably know Dana or maybe you do Ben Kelly uh they're neighbors now
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and I used to go and run catering at their house [Laughter]
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wow I heard you worked on porn sets as a fluffer did I read that right what is it what does that do what does that mean uh
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that was a good first question certainly there were no uh genitals touched I was uh I was in the art Department there's
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an art Department yeah I mean it was soft Coral it was
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like you know was it Emmanuel late night what not we shot in these dismal dingy
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places down in L.A in downtown I love it these stages was it like like really
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like skinamax like they'd have they'd be kind of naked it's like some dude in a in a sock and a lady with patches on her
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whatevers and uh and it was go time and then you know then they'd have like these ridiculous scenes of like what do
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you mean you [Music]
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I was just walking by and I happen to have a boner but right here I got an
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extra one oh [ __ ] what yeah no I got the job from a girl I went to college with who was
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like she was like I can't do this anymore it's like Soul crushing and I was like so crushing how about
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entertaining yeah Kevin Nealon and I did a bit on SNL where we sat in chairs like
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we were porn stars and we were bare Even in our like we were naked you can't see and we had people attending to our
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crotch I was like yeah yeah powdered up nice yeah yeah make it nice for the people yeah put a little put a little
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fence around it I mean we went nuts I remember that one you remember there's a little fence around yeah
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John knows SNL John is uh I watched uh the monologue this morning where you
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were an ad guy of course you knew you're gonna have to do an ad once I thought it was funny and Bill Hader you kept saying
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no ma'am and then and he goes I'm I'm not a man and then you go over here and do something then you come back to him
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and then Andy Samberg trips you up but I thought that was funny that you're you
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can actually think of them on your own no that was that was funny I've done it I've hosted three times as well John so
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we should talk to the Lord if you want to have a three-timer club we could do it it's fine you know
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everyone's got a lot go ahead Sean which one of the 18 madman sketches were you
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sort of gravitating towards John you can pick one maybe two three is too much I
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just feel like maybe one after update one maybe maybe a commercial parody
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was uh yeah yeah the three-time not as much play the three-timers you know three times yeah don't get anything one
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thing I'm curious about is we go into your SNL experience it's like so Amanda comes out it's only on like a year or a
00:27:12
year and a half I mean so you get that you're starting to feel you're riding this rocket your whole life's changing
00:27:17
and then you get the call you weren't even on Mad Men that long that's my curiosity before Lauren who loved it
00:27:25
immediately told me about it you're on now you go you're gonna host SNL it just
00:27:30
seemed like a rocket ship yeah I remember when I when my agent said
00:27:36
they want you to host SNL it was that it was in New York City it was at a at a like a Mac you know back when they had
00:27:43
magazine things but there's a magazine cover that I was on a party for it and uh
00:27:50
my girlfriend at the time and I were about to leave the country to go to this trip we had planned I had
00:27:56
been working all year we were like we have to book this trip and it'll be great and it was the week that they
00:28:02
wanted me to host SNL so I had to say no um oh you said no to the SNL to go on
00:28:08
vacation that'll be the end of that I guess but
00:28:14
at least I was asked you know blah blah blah and immediately came back it came back how about the how about the
00:28:19
following week and uh okay that that sounds great like sure and not having any any idea of what it entailed at all
00:28:28
other than knowing the show and knowing you know kind of the some of the people at that point
00:28:33
I knew I had met Amy and and um oh is that certain in that yeah that crowd
00:28:40
right one um so there were a couple people that I knew that that were that had been there
00:28:46
for some time but um yeah it was it was a it was a real it was a real eye-opener
00:28:51
to the first time to say the least and that was also happened to be the episode that Amy Fuller was wildly pregnant and
00:28:58
then had her baby Saturday afternoon so we had to completely read oh wow
00:29:03
retooled the lineup and is it true that she found out during rehearsal that her doctor had died and calmed her down I'm
00:29:10
sure you've told that story and then she laughed her ass off go ahead tell us I was sitting next to her we were
00:29:17
shooting a thing with Jimmy senorelli yeah uh the late not even it was late but the late grade so to speak uh
00:29:23
filmmaker who developing tapes yeah and um we're sitting there we're in some weird office space in Midtown
00:29:31
um and Amy is you know nine months pregnant and I'm sitting there and it's like it's a mat it's a Don Draper here's
00:29:37
how to like here's how to pick up ladies be Don Draper like okay yeah
00:29:43
um and so it was really funny like stop Fred Armisen is playing the guy who's like hey uh maybe you want to go on a
00:29:50
date and they're like get lost weirdo and then I'm like hey how about it and polar's line is let's get me out of this
00:29:56
skirt um I want to have that career can I go back in time so it was really funny but we're
00:30:03
sitting there in the makeup chairs you know they have the kind of temporary thing with the with the lights and the
00:30:09
mirrors set up and I don't know really anybody uh especially the the makeup artists or the hair people or anybody
00:30:15
I'm just okay and um kind of going along and then um polar gets a call and uh
00:30:23
hello um yeah I can't what what yep you gotta be kidding me
00:30:31
and then immediately starts to like get emotional and sob and stands up and walks kind of behind a
00:30:37
you know a thing and I'm hearing now I'm hearing like sobbing like like
00:30:46
and I'm like looking at the hair the makeup person is like frozen I'm like do
00:30:51
you what uh what do we do and what do we do like if we go home like
00:30:57
what's happening can we recast so it's like this all takes place in about 35
00:31:02
seconds and she comes back from around the little fake wall and it's clearly
00:31:07
been like crying and everyone's like Amy oh my God I said what's happening she's like you
00:31:14
won't believe this I just found out my my my OB GYN who's been with me through this this is
00:31:20
her first child that's been with me for this whole trip that he just died
00:31:25
God damn like no way like no way that this happened and I was like oh my God
00:31:31
Amy that's terrible um but this is like a really big thing for
00:31:36
me so can you pull your [ __ ] together and she immediately was like like
00:31:42
laughed like cracked up so I was like thank God I landed nicely my question for you
00:31:48
about Jim singing really is if this you're shooting something on a Saturday which is during the week it was during
00:31:53
the week okay good so that was before I started to not check out yeah okay because you they got it they I think
00:32:00
people at home don't realize when you do SNL and if you're a host you for sure probably don't get like the first night
00:32:06
is kind of easy you meet Lauren you go to Monday meeting and everyone kisses your ass and you're like this is uh Jon
00:32:13
Hamm and then everyone politely Applause and they go next week Sharon Stone everyone goes yay and then you
00:32:18
immediately feel like an isil the inside joke everything the inside joke we do every week and then but then you kind of
00:32:24
go to dinner door sewers I don't know what you do or you just leave and then you go this isn't too hard and then Tuesday you come in and it's writing
00:32:32
days where it's yeah yeah Wednesday is a crazy day yeah Tuesday's Tuesdays or so dinner night and the host comes
00:32:38
throughout our dinner yeah and then then writes and hangs out and I think that's when even when I went back to host twice
00:32:45
not three um that uh which they're really not giving parties for the two timers for
00:32:51
sure so I go and they go uh and even knowing the drill I'm an or so nervous
00:32:57
going I don't I think I got to go back there like I want to get back there and just go over everything because I'm
00:33:02
[ __ ] starting to freak out uh that I'm not because even Tuesday day no one
00:33:07
does anything and then no one's getting written you're like guys we have all this time we're wasting but every day every week Pizza is just hanging out
00:33:15
wasting time wasting time the entire system is based on procrastination
00:33:21
coming from add you can't really focus until there's a hard line we've got to
00:33:26
go now yeah you know that's so when you walk in there do you were you more okay
00:33:31
you did it three times what was your nerve rate coming into that office on Monday sitting there with all these
00:33:38
sketch players what worry we're out of 10 were or were you sort of naive like
00:33:43
maybe this will be fun or what were you maybe it'll be fun adventure it's true you go
00:33:50
fun and easy and then he quickly turns you go God damn well David's right though like there's nothing on Monday
00:33:55
that is really if you haven't done it before that that suggests this is going to be terrifying yeah
00:34:02
everybody's like calm and relaxed and they're pitching ideas that'll never make it the first time the first time I
00:34:09
I came in and we had the meeting on Monday the writers all came in dressed in 60s gear oh really that's cool
00:34:17
everyone from Paul lapel to John molini to Colin every everybody was like
00:34:23
to Mad Men yeah Lutz was dressed up like Joan like it
00:34:30
was it was amazing like they all just raided the costume department and came in like that so they're in all of you at
00:34:37
this point which is nice well they would love to be able to comedians want to be able to do it what you do you do comedy
00:34:44
and that but yeah we kind of respect so but it was it was weird it was you know
00:34:49
there's nothing to suggest like oh this is going to be terrifying until Wednesday when you have a packet of you
00:34:55
know 25 sketches that you have to read at that table and try to get laughs and
00:35:00
you've seen them for exactly you know maybe an hour or two to kind of go through you can I'm sure you don't even
00:35:07
get to all of them there's no way I mean not at all there's no way I mean it's you know it's a phone book size and Writers come in just to tell them can
00:35:14
you do a thing with a good thing where you uh we do a voice and it sounds kind of like the the okay you gotta do that right yeah which which one is this I'm
00:35:21
sorry what right and then you're kind of rushing in this one but not Ukrainian just play that a little bit and then
00:35:26
you're like yeah exactly you don't have to sound exactly like an elephant but just do whatever you can you're like
00:35:31
right your head spinning on and then Lawrence every five six seconds for
00:35:36
about an hour until you go in that packed room with a low ceiling and everyone waits for Lauren and then he
00:35:42
comes in and regally starts the read through and it's like four hours of Cold reading essentially cold reading solid
00:35:49
Bo I off the charts everyone in there is sweating and grossed out and there's no event someone goes crack Lauren will go
00:35:56
crack the window and then someone reaches back I got I got it Lauren so that would be me usually I got it
00:36:02
David is a waiter uh in an Italian restaurant David goes to the table David
00:36:08
puts down the water I wrote this stupid one for Farley when we had no ideas I wrote goo goo in the honey pot and where
00:36:15
he was a uh so stupid but it was like an eight foot honey pot and then he he gets in there and he's stuck in Honey in a
00:36:21
diaper and he keeps crawling out and he's covered in Honey and they go Google were you in the Honeypot he goes no I
00:36:26
saw you in this area yeah and he goes David you think we can
00:36:31
do it I go it's just stupid enough it might work so I handed in knowing I'm light that week and then Lauren gets
00:36:37
through and he goes Google in the honey pot and then he turns the whole sketch over
00:36:43
and goes Wayne's World cold opening I go oh
00:36:52
funny little poopy head he should have I did funny little poopy head with Jan
00:36:58
hook she was Mrs funny little poopy head and I had massive stage Direction Where Lauren had to say funny little poopy
00:37:03
head over and over again with his boy funny little poopy headed shot one
00:37:09
little poopy head sits down it's like that thing with funny little poopy head and he but he bailed on your sketch
00:37:15
because that sounds funny to me and he never mentioned it I know Farley would have crushed it I think so I think
00:37:22
Sandler later wrote one it's like not even writing and that one isn't even really writing either but I think he put
00:37:27
one where it's a film piece like for Sydney rally where he's in a pool and he just puts all this suntan oil on and
00:37:35
then he just tries to get on the raft for about four minutes and he's going oh God which you know
00:37:42
we've gone to that well before but it seemed to work it never does never not funny with Farley yeah and then he and
00:37:47
then I think that one even got like uh at least red Laura and then it's this
00:37:53
the sketch is like one paragraph and then Farley struggles and screams for 45 minutes and then it falls down far oh
00:38:01
yeah Dennis used to go hey Farley you got farty Faller Farley falls down anything else in the tank
00:38:07
anything else
00:38:15
Foreigner they're not buying the cookie guy okay Spain wait till carving leaves
00:38:20
because David would sit behind me and Lauren would go uh David's ready at any time when you're not
00:38:29
[Music] but back to our guest something that I love that I I love this yes I love Bill
00:38:36
Hader and love his Vincent Price and then you came in and did James Mason and you must
00:38:42
have loved that because you did it great and you every line killed with James Mason that first of all that that sketch
00:38:49
is so talk about so weird and specific and it Crush like a sketch should not
00:38:56
hard when it's especially a sketch about like a relatively obscure 50s 60s
00:39:02
totally very obscure to the young guys tell me uh clearly nobody nobody knows
00:39:08
who Vincent Price he's got a fake bird and it's all black and white and he's like I don't even
00:39:15
know if he's really trying to do a really accurate but it's just a funny hello I'm Vincent Price it's just kind
00:39:21
of just off-putting and then Fred Armisen is Liberace is yeah and Fred could all do all that all day
00:39:28
very Musical and then it's like a TV show and it's it's it's going badly and
00:39:33
he's getting frustrated like you know bringing in special again I mean now we have our special guests
00:39:40
yes isn't this a great show there he is Ronson again like no one no one has any
00:39:47
extents of who that is except that she's got a lot of views I think people just it's those get passed around yeah I uh I
00:39:53
had to um you know we did that for dress and it was Dean Martin at dress and um
00:40:01
really so and it kind of fell flat I guess my Dean Martin wasn't very good
00:40:06
but uh also Lauren was like well here's the problem it's a drunk playing a drunk
00:40:12
and it's a hat on a hat on a hat on a hat that's very long that's a big one what else can you do
00:40:19
right there at 10 30 on Saturday night the show's on
00:40:25
in 45 minutes yeah come up with another obscure impression that will make sense weird and you can you can get a 10 out
00:40:31
of 10 on it and nearly nail it uh and so hater comes in my dressing room and he's
00:40:36
like oh hey man yeah I don't know uh I said I said this is gonna sound weird I said I can kind of do a James Mason he
00:40:43
goes no way no way do it and I was like perfect well Joe I don't know and and uh
00:40:50
that's it and we and he goes perfect that's it that's done and I think he and Melanie had written the sketch the other so I can't remember who wrote it with
00:40:56
him but um but then we did that like and again it was that was at like yeah 10 45 so you know we're all up in Lauren's
00:41:03
office like so uh John's gonna do uh was it James Mason okay John's gonna that's
00:41:08
gonna change from Dean Martin to James so get out on the cards none of the lines changed
00:41:14
there's always an alcoholic right he was drunk and lascivious it was just funny you know sexually inappropriate yeah it
00:41:22
was just yeah they're hysterical but that is that's impressive the reason I could do that is because we me and Paul
00:41:27
Rudd growing up would we loved the movie uh Heaven Can Wait and oh yeah I saw it
00:41:34
James Mason plays the the angel who kind of Shepherds were in Beatty's you know
00:41:39
Journey whatever it was yeah but his line is you're dead Joe
00:41:46
and so that's what we would always say to each other randomly how you doing Charles Grodin and Diane Cannon Diane
00:41:52
Cannon the whole freaking [ __ ] great move Jack Warden Jack Warden oh yeah hey Max yeah
00:42:01
has one of the best lines in all of Cinema I think in a little movie called shampoo oh wait a minute I saw it a
00:42:08
month ago with my wife because we see it every year the movies and the line is the Line is now that's what I call
00:42:15
[ __ ]
00:42:20
that's just Warren Beatty doesn't Warren Beatty [ __ ] his own girlfriend
00:42:26
sees them through a doorway and he goes That's Right geez you got so you're a warm baby 70s
00:42:33
warm baby you know shampoo having can wait a parallax view we wanna there's nothing better okay I'll ask for you wow
00:42:40
I've gotten uh I've gotten to hang out with him on quite a few occasions um he's a great guy he's such a I mean
00:42:47
the stories are you cannot have a dinner that's less than three hours with him because I hung out with them once yeah
00:42:53
it's very he's very bright let's see if I can find that yep there it is oh
00:42:58
oh [ __ ] wow so what what year was that were you probably 2016. he just showed a
00:43:06
picture of everybody did he reach out to you or how do you guys have dinner or did it mutually he was a fan of the show
00:43:13
um oh yeah he would have loved that show were you getting cold calls kind of yeah some Stars yeah and then he uh he and
00:43:20
Annette had some friends that like one of them was a guy named Bill Pope who was the direct photography for baby
00:43:27
driver so I think that was probably around baby driver let's not forget baby driver I think that yeah that that makes
00:43:35
sense because he was probably 30 or something when 1960 hit and that the end
00:43:41
of that era of you know slapping them on the bottom and all that yeah I mean you know uh his first movie was
00:43:49
like Barefoot in the Park maybe or was that Robert Redford that was Redford it was 58. didn't he do the play he might
00:43:56
have yeah he might have yeah he did wearing shoes Park huge Redford fan I got I tried to
00:44:02
convince my sons who were with me up here oh he's a [ __ ] so watch uh three days of the Condor with me that we
00:44:09
watched podcasting the Sundance Kid and they loved it yeah oh yeah no yeah the
00:44:15
sting I was about to say dang [ __ ] uh All the President's Men
00:44:20
don't get me started The Horse Whisperer whatever he's amazing but uh the
00:44:26
electric Horseman I think you mean uh it starts with Jane Fonda oh he had the electric Horseman and then the horse
00:44:32
whisper he later in 98 yeah uh John do you have any parts that they came to you
00:44:38
and you had to pass up on that that you didn't do that you would like to
00:44:44
um I couldn't other than me and grown-ups other than my apartment
00:44:49
I I have I've had pretty good luck honestly of of the things that I've I've turned out or not been able to do have
00:44:56
not come back to kind of haunt me or or anything like that I was I was sort of loosely attached to Gone Girl at one
00:45:02
point there was a there was meant to be a situation uh and then it was because Mad Men was shooting he was like oh okay
00:45:09
I can't do it like that's that that's the way that goes but I really like that book and like the guys from St Louis and
00:45:14
they did a good job with it yeah Ben did a great job it's phenomenal I love it it's great those uh you know but I
00:45:20
haven't had very many of those those are like uh few and far between which is which is nice like you don't I don't
00:45:26
have a lot yeah but yeah like you said grown-ups that
00:45:31
was when you said no to grown-ups um no but you now when you get involved with something like Curb Your Enthusiasm
00:45:38
is that something because you know Larry or he dislikes you and says hey do you want to come on beep bop boop I had done
00:45:45
a weird little movie with Larry that was for HBO I think called clear
00:45:51
history where he invents uh a car it's it's a very convoluted
00:45:57
setup like most of his setups yeah uh yeah and he uh invents this car and it
00:46:03
goes sideways and he forgets about a lot of these yeah that owns the car company like you know Elon Musk or whatever
00:46:10
and uh we had a really good time we shot it in Boston with Greg matola and had a
00:46:16
great time doing it and made each other laugh so much we had so many great people in that film too and Michael
00:46:22
Keaton me at hater um Jimmy tingle I mean like all these bosses what a great name yeah stand up
00:46:29
yeah yeah we had all these like Boston Comics that were that were bopping around coming in and out and um it was
00:46:35
it was really fun and funny and and we got to know each other a little bit and played a little golf in Boston and and
00:46:40
uh ever since then he's kind of kept me in mind for for stuff and and I've been able to do the show a couple times it
00:46:47
was always really fun yeah yeah that's cool kind of a genius I guess
00:46:52
he had some some frequency I've been watching a lot of old seinfelds too like
00:46:58
which which hold up so remarkably well like other than kind of the fashion uh
00:47:03
yeah which stands out a bit but uh the the jokes and the and the stories and
00:47:09
you can you can so clearly hear Larry's voice in George Costanza not only that but
00:47:14
just in the in the in the stories like the the setups and the and the particular kind of annoyances of you
00:47:22
know the one that was on last night was the parking garage where they just get stuck in the parking garage for the entirety of the episode yeah and so it's
00:47:28
little observations little stand-up observations but extenuated and and just shot well or there's a liveliness to him
00:47:35
I mean Larry when I was watching your episode last night the two-layer Dave it feels like he's not breaking but he's
00:47:41
he's enjoying it so much he's kind of smiling a lot in a lot of his lines even we already had that too on Seinfeld you
00:47:47
could seriously yeah absolutely had it and it and and Adam in his early films had a little bit it brings a lot of
00:47:55
charming yeah yeah we know it's funny it's funny you know John did you have
00:48:01
this experience so I did a curve where where um they I I guess this is how they
00:48:08
do it they have a loose script yeah which was this was the fun for me because I don't improv a lot I mean in
00:48:13
these movies we do a couple things but a whole scene where they go okay you're
00:48:18
leaving the LA you're leaving a Lakers game you're running Larry and they go you are going to defend yourself with
00:48:26
whatever he's going to say to you and then they go over to him and they talk to him and I go what's he gonna do they go you'll find out so that's all we got
00:48:33
and then they come we meet with a crowd and then he's we both have a friend with us and then he starts going after me
00:48:39
about something and I start defending myself and then we cut and then we go back and they go now
00:48:46
um brag about what you're doing and then they go and then he's going to do something else and it was so fun because
00:48:51
you got to be on your [ __ ] toes and he's great and everyone's everyone in the scene is always good because they're
00:48:57
going to hire everyone good is it like that kind of that's that's pretty much it I mean the last you know the last one
00:49:02
I did was with Albert Brooks and Laura kartlinger and you know JB and you know somebody everybody at that point kind of
00:49:09
get knows what they're doing yeah on that on that set and you just kind of it's not unlike SNL you just wanna
00:49:16
try to stay out of the way and understand that the process is going to be the process and it's going to work
00:49:21
and you can contribute where you can uh and that that was my you know I was able
00:49:27
to do that and Pitch ideas and say like yeah you know this or what if I'm that and so what kind of ideas would you
00:49:32
pitch and were they I had my idea for this last one was that that my character I'm about the least Jewish person in the
00:49:40
universe like I'm I'm a Roman Catholic from St Louis Missouri Lutheran I said like you know what if I what if I'm just
00:49:47
like understand like I'm trying to like pepper my my conversation with like
00:49:53
Jewish phrases and words and you know but I get them wrong or like I'm almost
00:49:59
right with them or and they thought that was a pretty funny and they don't it rubs them wrong a little bit and kind of
00:50:04
like what do you no that's not what do you want to say like yeah yeah but but delivered with like the
00:50:10
ultimate confidence like the most you know that thing in La of people that do 100 wrong but but saying it out loud and
00:50:16
proud it's my life that's my whole life I know it's amazing people with no information have yeah yeah fake it till
00:50:22
you make it [Music] what's the one thing of the madman what
00:50:29
are the couple things that people stop you and they know you from what's the time oh the [ __ ] town guy it's crazy
00:50:36
[Music] I get that in Boston and I get that in airports uh the the TSA love the town
00:50:43
yeah the TSA yeah I see the town and that's one when
00:50:49
it comes on unless one of my movies is on if it comes on I watch the whole thing unless Benchwarmers is on and so I
00:50:57
the town is such a badass movie and um I love it's all boss it's all [ __ ] weird uh not weird it was a really fun
00:51:05
one to make cool like we were all kind of everybody was you know Renner was just coming off of hurt locker and
00:51:10
Rebecca Hall had I think she was in Iron Man or something like everybody was kind of coming off their own thing it was
00:51:16
Ben's second uh directorial effort and his first one was so good Gone Baby Gone yeah so it was really kind of fun and
00:51:24
exciting and and Warner Brothers like left us alone really like this thing and
00:51:29
uh it was it was great how it all it was like kind of this weird Perfect Storm the other guys in the in the crew with
00:51:36
Ben and Jeremy were these kind of local guys that were just kind of scary enough
00:51:42
to be believably you know kind of low-level criminals yeah sure uh it was
00:51:48
fun you know it was just fun we got really really lucky we got to shoot in Boston in the fall and it didn't snow or
00:51:53
rain or any of that stuff we got to bang around Fenway Park you know yeah it
00:51:59
seemed like you had run of the Town how has been been um as a director like um how how did he
00:52:06
I mean he's great and like I I I I fell for him obviously it's like that's the hardest job on on the set especially
00:52:12
when you're also the lead of the film um yeah and yeah yeah and he's also in
00:52:17
Boston like everywhere he goes he is yeah remark and he's a thought he's a big dude like he's playing six four six
00:52:22
five like he's a tall guy he's not like he's not hiding in plain sight right um so everywhere you go he's Jesus you
00:52:30
know yeah guy what's going on guy hey he's [ __ ] being ass get over here
00:52:36
give me your [ __ ] hug too good for us and that's his mother ladies and gentlemen I gotta tell you thank you God
00:52:44
damn it but yeah so it was obviously it was he had a lot on his plate but he he pulled it off and he did the smart thing
00:52:51
which I think uh the lesson to be learned from that is is like he hired
00:52:56
amazing department heads like our our director photography versus guy Robert Ellsworth who yeah There Will Be Blood
00:53:03
among other things and you know one is fair share of hardware and he had really really talented camera operators and art
00:53:09
Department people and stuff guys and second unit and it was but you guys seemed to like block off chunks of the
00:53:16
city and get to drive all over and do everything it's [ __ ] it's fun on a movie you're like you you run the whole
00:53:22
town it's great yeah especially and especially that guy in that town that's for sure you know do a movie with me in
00:53:28
Scottsdale let's see what's going on yeah and obviously what's up yeah we shoot in the afternoons we shoot at dusk
00:53:36
for one hour it's called sunburn slash I always watch movies to see how many nights they shoot to see how much
00:53:42
complaining I would be doing I'm like look at all these [ __ ] nights man why do anyone say anything what if it's
00:53:49
vampires yeah I could never but they are in the daytime yeah the daytime they
00:53:55
don't drink blood ruins the whole movie I don't care I'm like it's easier to shoot do you have a do you have a wish
00:54:01
list of like if you got a script across your desk like would you I mean do you like to do something way way comedic or
00:54:08
uh or you know like I've been told by a prosthetic makeup artist that everyone
00:54:13
wants rubber on their face ever since ever since Churchill
00:54:18
with uh who won the Oscar sorry one of my favorites Jerry Oldman Gary Oldman
00:54:24
yeah so now everyone wants some prosthetic because that's how you get at least a nomination like for you hi John
00:54:31
Hamm yeah you know I mean would be kind of interesting I hate sitting in the makeup chair
00:54:37
and uh there it goes your Oscar yeah there goes my oscar but uh let's be
00:54:43
honest it wasn't happening anyway uh did you wear a ball cap on SNL we're jumping around oh yeah for sure oh yeah they're
00:54:50
popping wigs on you on top of it so the one of your own hair is always like a little wrong
00:54:57
this is me in my own hair in the monologue and you still got a bald cap on him [ __ ] yeah uh but at least I'm now
00:55:04
sweating from my Dome of my head all the way down it's wet oh
00:55:09
yeah no any you know the fun thing for me would have been to be a part of the
00:55:17
Star Wars stuff but that's I think that ship has sailed because I was such a huge Star Wars fan back when I was
00:55:23
little um and I you know I remember being like in third grade or something and and Star
00:55:29
Wars coming out and and it you know it starts with the big crawl right and it's episode four
00:55:34
near like episode four like what did I miss yeah what did I miss like there must there were three episodes that just
00:55:40
didn't exist so weird they started like that and and yeah A New Hope episode four and so then then like the rumor
00:55:47
mill started among the third graders I was like well you know there's there's nine of these there's meant to be nine
00:55:53
of them they read it in like fangoria magazine or something you know and like you that you thought wow nine nine more
00:56:00
Star Wars that's gonna be amazing and they're not meant to be completed until 2019 which back then 40 years later
00:56:08
you're like what I gotta wait 40 years for these like no way they go in two are
00:56:13
gonna be good so you don't know which two literally at your age you you might have had Star Wars
00:56:20
little uh figures oh I had figurines I had a poster I had sheets I had the
00:56:25
whole deal uh it was it was a big part of my life so I had the little Darth Vader shaped case that you kept your
00:56:32
little guys in um yeah so anyway but yeah I didn't I never got the call for that one but well
00:56:38
I don't know we just shot um the uh Fletch which we were
00:56:44
rebuilding whoa oh I love it that was pretty
00:56:50
exciting we were gonna ask you about floods do that uh that was in Boston again uh the the third book in the
00:56:56
series takes place in Boston and uh how did you I mean obviously you've been
00:57:02
asked this question but like how did you evolve it for to match you know Jon Hamm did you well part of it was you know
00:57:09
obviously I looked at it kind of like and and Greg mottola who I worked with on this
00:57:14
um we both kind of were like it's kind of like a cover song right it's a cover version of a song If you yeah you already have have a Jude yeah so why
00:57:22
would you do it just like Hey Jude like maybe maybe mix it up a little bit and so we were very cognizant of not doing
00:57:30
Chevy yeah um and not doing you know teeth and and
00:57:35
wigs and and and this is and that's and and we wanted to we wanted to still make it funny but we we wanted to keep it
00:57:41
more in line with the tone of the novel which is almost more of like a whodunit and and he's still a wise ass and he
00:57:48
still gets himself into trouble and and has to talk his way out and it's still funny and they're so jealous but it's
00:57:53
really fun to play it was what it was it was super funny and and it was John slattery's in it with me and you know
00:57:59
your band name former band mate you guys have a lot of things we got the band back together in some way so uh we had a
00:58:07
great time there's the good news about it is like there's nine more books so if if if we are able to sell it to some
00:58:14
streamer we can probably make some more but uh it was a blast it was a that was another character in my youth
00:58:23
did you do characters in it where you're undercover like with a mustache or something do you do any of that or we we
00:58:29
didn't we kind of shied away from that we thought that that was a real good way to get uh in trouble in trouble with
00:58:35
whoever comedy police sued by chip by Chevy it's fun to be the guy talking your way out of something in other words
00:58:42
lying basically they act as a lion right it's really fun like I was that's hard to do that's not my car that kind of
00:58:48
stuff yeah all right I just came by to say hello and if you uh we got it I got we had another part that was really fun
00:58:55
for me because I don't really get a chance to do this a lot was like developing the script and then having like zooms like this but with comedy
00:59:02
writers and having everybody ideas and thoughts and we had like we
00:59:07
had like Murderers Row we had Paul lapel we had Bill Hader we had so many great Robert Carlock we had so many great wow
00:59:14
mines that were kind of crazy one of the best ones was and I won't
00:59:19
ruin it but it's basically the end of the movie that Bill Hader came up with that was like he's like I've never seen
00:59:24
this but what if you do this and he explained it to me that's a great idea and we immediately stole it and put it
00:59:30
in them what was it he can't tell you so let's guess okay I'll be Bill hater all
00:59:36
right what if like uh all right at the end of the movie right you go uh hey you
00:59:42
wake up hater right there you wake up right I'm doing I don't know where I'm you say it's a medium hater yeah
00:59:51
foreign
00:59:56
and a lot of times comedians aren't an audience but man does he laugh he laughs
01:00:01
he's a good laugh foreign
01:00:08
hopefully by the end of the year I think uh you know who knows anymore what movies are uh We've we've I've I shot
01:00:15
top gun too all right half years ago Jesus that's been sitting in a can wow ever although it looks like it's coming
01:00:22
out it's coming up Cruz gets released when cruise is ready
01:00:29
it comes out I love I love anyone who hang from an airplane go to the space station
01:00:34
he's running out of crazy stunts he's like I get sucked into the Jet Engine
01:00:39
and then Pieces of Me come out we sell them as nfts they're like well I don't know if that was not what an nft is it's
01:00:46
called not for Tom he got stalled by a whale no he's actually going to the space station but
01:00:52
did um so did you get in a jet on that one were you right now getting on a jet I play kind of the I play the Maverick
01:00:59
the boss like you know damn it Maverick exactly can't cash people ask us do I tell you
01:01:06
how do you have a movie career and one way is is just having franchises that just sort of make movies so
01:01:12
um you know you can't forget like four he's got Reacher Reacher possible
01:01:18
impossible he'll keep doing Top Guns the suit fits the helmet I mean he is
01:01:24
amazing so you so Top Gun you shot uh
01:01:29
before Corona was invented and then before Corona was perfected yes it's
01:01:35
getting better first of all Corona I got Omicron right now I'm feeling good I know I like Omicron it's been gone not
01:01:42
gone but it's slowed down a hair and then the war started the next day you're like give us one [ __ ] second give us
01:01:48
a breath one one good day yeah one good day we don't have to worry about long they're gonna be like you have to wear a
01:01:54
mask now because the war I'm like wait why like don't ask questions this is Dr fauci there's a mask and there's a war
01:02:00
and you gotta wait I'll explain later you know there's gonna be a lot more variants so don't get cocky put your
01:02:05
[ __ ] mask in get in your house and stare at the ceiling I'm Tony fauci go
01:02:11
[ __ ] yourself the good news is there's only 24 letters in the Greek alphabet so
01:02:16
you know somehow we oh yeah we're gonna run out we got a little 18 years yeah we're getting one from Hawaii it's
01:02:21
called the Pineapple Express yeah Lulu exactly
01:02:26
Lulu to serve with love I have one question I know we gotta let John go
01:02:31
soon but he's got to go to the airport a lot of the female fans asked if you would wear sweatpants to the airport I
01:02:37
don't even understand that question uh I tend to dress up for the airport thank you very much I think that my
01:02:42
grandmother taught me to wear a nice clothing today it's a big wiener question I think that's what they're getting
01:02:48
um I like it you were we're about to say wham bam thank you ham to this guy who's
01:02:53
waiting for that one I stole it from your monologue
01:03:03
what is that uh skateboard deck behind you John finally someone [ __ ] asked
01:03:09
me the tough questions Dana doesn't care this is what about what that this is that's how I paint that's that's like
01:03:16
what I do go ahead this is uh there's an artist Richard Prince and this is a skateboard deck because I used to skate
01:03:22
I still milk it out I'm not any good but my brother gave me that because he's big into art and uh but I didn't know what
01:03:28
to put in the background John's like oh I have louvers I want everyone to know I have uh I have a skateboard deck Tony
01:03:35
Hawk somewhere in here
01:03:41
you're going to Switzerland we've never had someone on the podcast who was leaving you skipped the fact that Tony
01:03:47
Hawk was my stunt double in Police Academy four was it Dana skate double and he was about 6 10. okay no he's a
01:03:56
little and he rides goofy no I ride goofy he rides regular I ride goofy yeah
01:04:01
John we could tear it up [ __ ] Melrose going to Belmont William Morris drops
01:04:06
you and then you you become Jon Hamm do you ever run into those guys and you get up in their face a little bit or oh hi
01:04:13
William Morris remember me yeah don't you think there's there should always be one person working for WME his name is
01:04:20
William Morris so that you could go and be like you're the guy you're the guy everything
01:04:27
originally it's literally like some schmuck in the mail room like what I just I what I didn't even want to work
01:04:32
here they just made me I I went over there when they I started with Endeavor
01:04:37
when they started that's how old I am and then they merged this is yeah I'm boring the audience again uh okay you
01:04:45
know what people love to talk about yeah agencies well they love to talk about people who doubted you then you made it
01:04:52
and then you [ __ ] all over them they like that revenge of the hey William Morris you were you you were in a Super
01:04:59
Bowl commercial but uh Seth Rogen in one with your precious Paul Rudd were you jealous that you weren't the other guy
01:05:06
and it wasn't you and Paul Rudd I you know I think that uh yes the the short
01:05:12
answer is yes yes that's the right answer and uh knowing probably uh within the
01:05:19
ballpark only got paid for that I'm really jealous but uh yeah you know I think that that you know the the the fun
01:05:26
thing about this commercials now is that no one gives a [ __ ] it doesn't and in the 15 20 years ago like George Clooney
01:05:33
did an ad and Brad Pitt did an ad and everyone I thought the world was ending yeah like yeah well we're allowed to do that now like cool you would also do
01:05:40
them over in Europe and they didn't know about it but now like Mel Gibson's selling Japanese whiskey or something
01:05:46
yeah you could do them you could do commercials there's no you could be proud live streaming and movies
01:05:51
everything is just when I started on only fans everyone's all right well let's let John go he's got a flight
01:05:57
isn't it only fan no mine does pretty well I do pretty in
01:06:04
a month yeah gross though look at Dana I'm rich I have stairs oh people can't
01:06:10
see his house and a and a dark room under the stairs where are you and what if my wife came out of there with
01:06:16
handcuffs on yeah that's just uh this is there were Harry Potter The Lovely Bones this house was built in 1912 and yes it
01:06:24
has ghosts and they visit all the time yeah are you in the San Francisco area or
01:06:30
yeah yeah Northern California Russian Hill redwood trees and stuff different heights yeah just my wife grew up here
01:06:38
in this town so I got to go to the uh to the the Lucas
01:06:43
uh Ranch over in the person yeah you did yeah that was pretty neat that was pretty neat that was as close as I got
01:06:49
to being on on Star Wars I kind of know George Lucas and uh keep
01:06:54
keep your phone close because you should definitely be in a Star Wars movie if you want to
01:07:00
oh no they had to take a break because they got greedy and did one every three months and everyone needed we need two
01:07:06
or three years oh yeah did you go to the kennel where they keep the baby chewbacas
01:07:12
all right I'm out of jokes I gotta go first comes the joke then comes the laughter goddamn is failure
01:07:20
first try joke joke not what I try dude then comes
01:07:27
unemployments is no try only have I I don't want to get blue anyway I'm gonna
01:07:34
sing we always close off with a song thank you no we don't know
01:07:40
I would have gone with it it's raining Mad Men well we gotta thank John for being super cool and whenever I see you
01:07:47
out you're always nice it's fun to talk to you it's always a good laugh it's a great pleasure and thank you for having me thanks for coming on we're you know
01:07:54
we're not smartless we're clueless and listen there are Nemesis we admire them
01:07:59
when I'm using their microphone to record your podcast so is that true yeah we're not smartless we're clueless
01:08:06
but anyway this is fun and so fun to meet you it's a it's a real a thrill
01:08:12
well we'll see you down the line as they say if I make it back from Europe uh in one piece but good luck other than that
01:08:18
next time yeah on SNL let's let's go on do a guest spot at least or something be in the coal opening see you at the 50th
01:08:24
as they say oh that's right Dana Dan I'll get you a ticket all right we gotta go
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