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ready three two what's up David what's
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our next guest who is it our next guest
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is Smigel Rob Robert Smigel awesome
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Robert Smigel we're having a writer on
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one of the I for many people's money the
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best sketch writer of his generation he
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he's in the conversation for sure it's
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one of the best I've ever worked with
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Hall of Famer first time Hall of Famer
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yep brilliant guy yeah Smigel uh used to
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uh you know he's he's in charge of so
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many of the big sketches in the show and
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uh I was always trying to write with him
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um always trying to get in there and
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just get my name on a sketch cuz I know
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it would always get on CU he's so good
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he'd write for you a lot and he'd write
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with you a lot we yeah we had a good
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collaboration because I would just start
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I was watching reg just we'll talk about
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in the episode but I just started doing
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around the office and then he was a
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great person to partner with and then he
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could get the Rhythm and make it even
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better same thing with Carson and stuff
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so we we go through a lot of process on
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my side of the fence with Robert and
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it's really fun we go through a lot of
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the me begging him to do sketches with
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me on my side of the fence but he also
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went on he does triumph you know the dog
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and he does uh a lot of great stuff for
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autism um and he has the night of a too
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many stars which is the funniest title
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of yes and he he roast us basically uh
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we won't give it away but the beginning
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of the episode a certain character that
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he does that's sort of canine like gives
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just basically roast David and I for 10
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minutes is pretty funny you know I won't
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say how he does it but he sort of poops
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on us yeah yeah um oh by the way Dana um
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you know this Elvis movies is coming out
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not to change gears here Austin Butler
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Austin Butler does Elvis and I'm such an
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Elvis fan I'm almost worried to watch it
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because oh yeah I want to be really into
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it you know there's a funny Elvis story
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that we used to joke uh when Elvis was
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such a huge star which he always was
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yeah um but he's such a stud and he
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would leave the studio he'd have sunning
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red up front and they go Elvis there's a
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million girls out front so throw the
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coats on them so he' let down in the
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back seat and they'd throw the coats on
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him and uh and then when they drive out
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they'd all look and get around the car
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and they wouldn't see him they'd leave
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yeah and he'd get away and so they
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wouldn't follow the car and so in the
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later days there was no one there and it
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almost goes it's pretty crazy out there
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and he goes yeah throw the coats on them
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isn't that cute they would still throw
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the coats on him and there was no one
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out there so he never knew a they better
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have that in the [ __ ] movie I always
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saw it's been long enough to I just
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thought interesting he died in his
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Mansion okay and he was was on the pot
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so I assume a half hour before he died
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all you heard if you were in the Mansion
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is someone
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going I get some
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paper I need some paper in here can I
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anybody bring some paper wait he needs
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toilet paper toilet paper well he hasn't
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poofed yet that's the problem well he
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maybe he did but there's no toilet paper
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he said can I get the newspaper to read
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it cuz I'll be here for two hours the
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other thing was like he would have
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Colonel Tom go on a private jet with
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people down to uh South American cities
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and bring back young ladies for Al you
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know and they he had a thing where he'd
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want them to um hey let's not give away
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the first half hour of the movie where a
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diaper it was one of his fetishes what's
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your name canell Jesus here's a diaper
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strap that
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on these just all true stories you can
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cut these I'll get arrested but it'll be
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great uh I you know I ran into Riley Kio
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the other night what a great name the
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MTV words yeah uh the granddaughter I
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didn't put it together even though I'm
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the hugest Elvis cuz I I didn't
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recognize her so she's sitting next to
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me before we're going out I'm presenting
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an award and she's presenting the Elvis
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movie something about it and and she
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said it was a great movie and you know
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you got to trust her if I was in the
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Elvis family I would be so Eagle eyed on
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that thing but it's never going to be as
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cool as the real Elvis but uh she's
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happy so I'm happy so I'm very
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interested in it just because Colonel
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Tom Parker played by Tom Hanks is in it
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yeah I love that and he is Dutch and
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he's a was a really weird guy and he's
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in complete prosthetics
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and the biggest star in the world Mr
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pres you thought Colonel Tom would be
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like hey everybody that was Presley but
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would you like to be a star elus Presley
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I guess he talks like that that scare
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you I just don't know I need a peram
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sandwich anybody got a peram sandwich
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50% this [ __ ] took of Elvis's
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[ __ ] fit to the very very end and I
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would say he didn't have great guy
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syndrome I'll tell you that which I do
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have by by the way James Austin Butler
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plays Elvis Presley and he also played
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Tex in one Austin's
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hisy Johnson what is his name Austin
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Butler
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Austin I was going James Austin Johnson
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hey man I you it's a senior moment any
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first names you could link together
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Austin is a very unique name first or
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middle I I I cool I'm not going to say
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bad I want to see I think James Austin
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Butler um is a cute kid he played Tech
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and one of pun
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one Once Upon a Time in Hollywood oh he
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did yeah he was a guy I'm as real as a
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donut [ __ ] I saw you you were
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riding a horsey in that scene not to get
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away from smigo but I'm going to tell
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you that and this is one minut I did see
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one of your old favorite movies on the
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plane of all [ __ ] things I'd never
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seen it three days of the Condor oh
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really you talk about two [ __ ]
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movie stars oh I see it every wford fade
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fade she was what do you want I just
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wanted to stop ah I love it Condor
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Condor where are you Condor that brings
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us back to Robert Smigel Robert Smigel
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from Robert Redford and that is our tie
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in and we knew we we planned this whole
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thing Robert Smigel is very funny
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he listen [ __ ] about this thing that
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would be funny if this is the whole
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episode and then we go we never got time
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for robt we really apologize we got on
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an Elvis thing yeah but it's good we
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talk about topical [ __ ] man that's
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what's going on in the world anyway
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here's
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[Music]
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Smigel all the momentum we had with the
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Lauren impression oh we were oh yeah and
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you were saying Lauren you did
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impression before that before Mark
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mckenny Mark
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mckeny did um the only person who did it
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my first year was Mark mckin and he did
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like a beautifully accurate Lauren like
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a well obser oberved Lauren and actually
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said complete
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sentences and it was very impressive but
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then the next year I just started doing
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cartoon Lauren on my own and then I went
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into I remember going into Dana's office
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and uh you know and I admitting that I
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sort of do Lauren like you know I want
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to show and I think Dana and then Dana's
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like oh yeah I do Lauren too and Dana
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starts going like oh what do you think
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of act three
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just had that move like something
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Lauren's never done in his life
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incredibly per it was just perfect it
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was like this self-satisfied we still
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have no [ __ ] First Act I've got no
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[ __ ] First Act no [ __ ] code Marcy
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look at the book of please chapter
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two Frank and r a bush Frank and ride a
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bush Frank and right a bush immediately
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Frank and right a bush there was a lot
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of bush cold
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Frank remember Robert when you made the
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cartoon thing where you flipped the
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pages which which cartoon well I was
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doing Bush senior so much I didn't know
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that the writing staff was kind of like
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again so then I saw a thing where it's
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like a flip page where it was reminded
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me yeah and he SP you spin it and see me
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as bu it was like it was like a series
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of it was like one of those
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flip what was it it was like was it
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Franken putting Bush cold open on the
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what I thought it was Bush taking a poo
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or something I thought it was
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scatalogical it could have been I like
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Frank and putting the card on the on the
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uh lineup I have to say Franken takes a
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beating on your
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show he's coming he's coming on very
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very soon and we will play him well
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Sarah got him back by stabbing him in
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the head with a pencil yeah did you hear
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well I through I was not there that was
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after I had um left for Conan but but do
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you remember this uh Spade I bet you
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remember
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this so one of the Impressions I I was
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the one I think who started
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that like me and Conan I used to do this
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thing for Conan of Al um and I feel bad
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because Al got me the job actually and I
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love Al but but he was tough back then
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and so everybody kind of yeah needed to
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release some energy mine was like Al on
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his back and it like a snapping tur
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flip me over yeah exactly well I I
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thought that's why he would when he was
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running for Senator I thought he'll be
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great in there because Al is blunt and
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doesn't he just says what he thinks I
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thought that'd be good for him he was
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great but on the but well boy when he
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was in the Senate he was my hero because
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he he kind of like contained himself
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from being as confrontational like I
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mean at the show
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his last few years at the show I think I
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think he was kind of unhappy to be
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honest with you I mean he was like in
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his 40s and I don't think this is what
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he was dreaming of doing in his 40s and
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I think it was I think that's in his
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defense like he was confused as to what
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he wanted to do with his life and then
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he started writing those books and I
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think he found Direction and yeah he's
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always hyper political and that was fun
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writing with him and Downey cuz you know
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sitting next to Spade at read through
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and he's like what
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happened it's like George seagull and
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just shoot me goes in the middle of the
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scene he'd stop and he goes he'd look at
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the crowd he goes I did a movie with
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Elizabeth Taylor and I'm standing next
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to this [ __ ]
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[Music]
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now well I remember Jan Hooks once
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saying to me schm don't become one of
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those writers who 50 years old and
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wearing blue jeans and sitting on the
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floor whatever you do it's always
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sitting on the floor with a no it's true
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I mean it's just you never grow up when
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you're at that a little sachche where
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you put your bitterness in a bitterness
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pouch we're like just keep loading
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things Al's defense the show I did six
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years it gets mind- numbing and it gets
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you're in a box of like no sun and pizza
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and ordering in and stress and everyone
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else's energy and so you did a long run
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there too you seem pretty normal but
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that that was a long run you had I did a
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long run but I got out when I was like
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33 and to do the Conan show and then I
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came back but in a much more sane
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capacity I just did the cartoons yeah
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and all I had to do was show up on yeah
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all I had to do was show up on Saturday
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so I wasn't really a part of the the
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thing anymore but Al was like you know
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there every day and he's like in his
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40s well let's get back to smiggle's
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unbelievable care do we want to be a
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little bit uh do we want to go a little
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bit to Young smel first or would you
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like to go later young SM or what about
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can can my friend come on because he
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thinks young Smigel is a [ __ ] boore
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to be H yeah let me see who do you got
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over there he's been he's been uh he's
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been riding me ever since this is unique
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for fly on the wall we have a guest with
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a special guest you have a guest with a
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guest who's just I don't know he just
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thinks that he can Jazz it up you know
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he better behave should I bring him out
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bring him out why not okay oh goodness
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what here I am here I am finally God
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Jesus Christ what a long wait no this is
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terribly exciting so exciting I Triumph
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blind do not make fun of this show or us
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Triumph I did please oh I no I
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understand those are the ground rules I
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have to work with no no no jokes about
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the show no no making fun of anyone okay
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good honestly this is a great show the
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wall not for me to poop on no no
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fantastic
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show fly on the wall there's a lot of
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Buzz I hear around
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fly good job Triumph thank you yeah the
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same kind of uh Buzz flies make around
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my
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ass you see because it's not ases
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attract [ __ ] and the show is what makes
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sense that you see the joke you get yeah
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that took a turn but okay I like it it's
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it's what it's a switcher Ro
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no Spade this is a great show it feels a
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need you know because let's face it
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Saturday Night Live it hasn't gotten
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enough attention or retrospectives or
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anniversary shows just I mean honestly I
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mean just the other day I was thinking
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this uh after watching my best of
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finesse Mitchell DVD I was thinking why
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why has SNL been written about only
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slightly more than World War II why
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and Today's show my goodness how did you
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land this guest they hand up my ass
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seriously I'm worried I'm I'm I'm a
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little concerned this is your first
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season you've already run out of people
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we care about no smile is a big deal he
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wrote a lot of great sketches hey sure
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he is everybody stay tuned we've got the
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fourth funniest guy from the de bear
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sketch and you have to explain what the
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sketch was to people under 6
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it's trouble this is what you're looking
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forward to you already did Sandler Rock
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Mike Myers this is your future this is
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pretending to be interested in questions
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like tell me in coming up with goat boy
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which came first to you the goat or the
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bo is it a boy who becomes a goat or a
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goat who becomes a boy our listeners
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really our 10 remaining listeners are
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dying no there's more 10 we didn't get
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the news
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no I kid I kid again oh he's kidding
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Dana no your show's great it's a very
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very successful money grab I mean
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hit you have like how many subscrib
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you've got like 400,000 listeners right
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yeah I'm gonna say yes and not to this
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episode that's for sure but up to now no
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even here the all we can hope today is
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to beat Allen's y Bell's numbers numbers
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and who better to Great guest who better
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to co-host
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show Dana Carvey one of the alltime
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greatest cast members on Saturday
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night why why would you say that it's
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almost as if you think I'm going to hurt
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your feelings no I think this will be a
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compliment
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exactly Dana Carvey one of the all-time
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greatest cast members of Saturday Night
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Live and David Spade who was also on the
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show that's no Spade's everywhere Spade
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is doing great he's everywhere this is
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Dana this is actually a boost for you
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you know audiences are connecting with
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you again that's what's great I only
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wish Dana that you did this show like 15
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years ago you know when podcasts were
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starting and all the people you do
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impressions of were still
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alive now I've lost a lot of them now
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it's like hey folks what would happen
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what if Ross perau and Jimmy Stewart
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weren't rotting corpses slowly
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disintegrating into the soil
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I think it's might go something like
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this yeah well you're you're trying to
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be president yeah can I finish one time
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I'll just do it there to your act it's
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like the audio six sense I hear dead
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people I'm sorry is this wrong this is a
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podcast you're supposed to you're
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supposed to be complimenting each other
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on that's what it is right I mean yeah
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that's what podcast are white people
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complimenting each other yeah we need
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more white people we're pretty nice old
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white people complimenting old white
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people old white people compliment I've
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got a theme song for
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you harmonize with me D old white people
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complimenting old white people old white
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people it's very hard to do over Zoom I
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just realized yes listen Spade
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Spade I don't I don't want to uh insult
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you you've had an amazing career thank
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you yeah Tommy Boy then starring in the
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string of hit sitcoms that no one
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remembers waiting for him to fake laugh
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I'm laughing
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hey and God bless Bernie brillstein
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right he started the whole thing off
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right great calling the creators of just
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shoot me and gently coaxing Steve
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Levitan to hire his client you need a
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comic relief
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I'm so sorry I'm so sorry I didn't mean
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toy easy
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um snippity Dippity no I think we got to
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put people we got to let them no that's
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that's uh showed your thing you did your
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thing did Triumph hurt your feelings I
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need to know no not at all little bit
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Spade no because I thought Triumph is a
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little older now and maybe he was not
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like that anymore no no it's like it's
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I'm older that's the problem like I
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didn't give a [ __ ] about this when I
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started Triumph I I liked old white
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people complimenting other old white
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people or something like that that wasun
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we looked it up there's 2.8 million
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podcasts are you kidding me it's like
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it's like Co it just there's more every
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day and no one knows what to do and
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people are getting affected with it
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here's what I've observed about this one
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because I've listened to a few okay and
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what's very funny to me Spade is like
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you're one of the funniest persons in
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the world this is an old wide person
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compliment yeah old
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but on this
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show it's all about a life you lived
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when you were like in the 90s and you
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kind of have to
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revert it's you're always reverting to
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that guy at the show who hadn't made it
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big yet like always like yeah no you
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guys were incredible and I didn't know
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what to do right it's just funny to me
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that Spade who's had this amazing
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run well it does we throw back everybody
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gets back in that around the writer's
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table and how [ __ ] ordering Huxley
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and all the stupid [ __ ] it sort of
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throws you back to the dim lighting and
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feeling like [ __ ] all the time was a
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stressful would you consider it I was
00:19:14
say like I love the show so much and
00:19:17
people I met and worked with and yet I
00:19:19
was always stressed yeah I also remember
00:19:23
how skinny your little office was like I
00:19:25
think people thought it was some
00:19:26
palatial place it's these little
00:19:29
Dungeons and then I would go along the
00:19:30
line and poke my head in to see if I get
00:19:32
my name on anybody's
00:19:34
sketch smuggle you remember do you
00:19:37
remember what I my affectionate nickname
00:19:39
for you was no what was it spudley no
00:19:42
well everybody had spudley into the
00:19:44
noodles no Chief not and
00:19:46
show Chief noton show because I was
00:19:48
never in the
00:19:50
show it's so hor he was but I wasn't in
00:19:53
much I think I went you got in it in
00:19:56
9345 I did go left that's what was weird
00:20:01
so weird because you were kind of pigeon
00:20:03
hold I remember your audition yeah and
00:20:06
you were very funny but you were kind of
00:20:07
like Spade light you weren't like
00:20:10
letting your whole kind of persona
00:20:14
persona come later yeah and people like
00:20:16
saw you as like this nicel looking kind
00:20:18
of blonde guy who did some impression I
00:20:20
think he did Tom Petty yeah it was like
00:20:22
oh he's gonna be like a Dana Carvey type
00:20:25
and then and Dana Carvey was still on
00:20:28
the show
00:20:29
so I think people didn't know what to do
00:20:30
with I think I didn't but I also wasn't
00:20:32
in in full
00:20:34
disclosure thinking I was the new Dana
00:20:36
Carvey I was like are you this guy I go
00:20:39
this guy's the best guy and he does a
00:20:41
million things I go I got to find what I
00:20:43
can do and luckily like even that
00:20:45
Hollywood minute where Lauren I was sort
00:20:47
of teetering and then he's like well
00:20:49
just do more stuff like that because
00:20:50
that makes me a little different from
00:20:51
Dana and then I could find my own little
00:20:54
niche or something I don't know it was
00:20:55
tough it was very that that part was
00:20:57
tough even the recep cist which was like
00:20:59
the best sketch of that season oh yeah I
00:21:02
remember someone in a high position
00:21:05
saying yeah couldn't Dana play that no
00:21:08
[ __ ] no of course he could I came in and
00:21:11
played an alien right did I play an Al I
00:21:15
felt bad because I said you know it's
00:21:17
always hard smel if you're a writer and
00:21:19
if you're a new writer to put Mike Myers
00:21:21
or Dana in something where they don't
00:21:22
have a lot to do but you know in your
00:21:25
head you're like oh it' be fun I have
00:21:26
access to all these great people and I
00:21:28
don't know they're quietly going it's
00:21:30
not that great but Dana goes yeah I'll
00:21:33
do whatever so I go you come in at the
00:21:34
end is an alien I don't realize they're
00:21:35
going to put him in like a three hours
00:21:37
of makeup and hair remember you had a
00:21:39
big bulb head on I had a giant I was
00:21:41
like oh no I can't put Dana through this
00:21:45
[ __ ] and it also makes sometimes that
00:21:47
was part of being on the team yeah you
00:21:50
know what I have to say no onein still
00:21:52
gets into crazy outfits and says two
00:21:54
lines in a sketch I liked on the 40th
00:21:56
anniversary Steve Martin goes in full
00:21:58
King outfit for three lines in a song or
00:22:01
whatever cuz he's committed and it's fun
00:22:03
I love it and everyone's there fun it's
00:22:05
also like 70 million people are watching
00:22:07
that one all different yeah you're right
00:22:10
everybody's yeah yeah but yeah the
00:22:13
receptionist I mean it's it was so
00:22:16
exciting to see a new person kill too
00:22:18
like that's one of the great things on
00:22:20
the show when that happens like uh that
00:22:23
guy James when he did Trump for the
00:22:25
first time this year yeah he was great
00:22:28
it was
00:22:29
thrilling you know it was amazing yeah
00:22:31
and when the audience finds it cuz I had
00:22:33
been sort of kicking around the show for
00:22:34
a while and that was a hard one to to
00:22:37
get on I think it took a few swings oh
00:22:39
the receptionist yeah and then it got on
00:22:41
with MC Hammer at 5 to one and then the
00:22:44
next time it got on first sketch so that
00:22:46
with rosan yeah with rosan there's
00:22:48
really there was only like three so
00:22:49
that's the one you remember it's like
00:22:51
bye-bye there's there's only two of them
00:22:54
but you know if they remember what they
00:22:55
remember you know church lady was on
00:22:57
more than 20 times the first season 20
00:23:00
episod more than they had shows were you
00:23:02
on twice an early chat and then they I
00:23:05
do a good night chat after Jack Carvey
00:23:08
Show we tried to sneak the church lady
00:23:10
into commercial remember that oh yeah
00:23:13
for real we did that like can we
00:23:15
superimpose the church lady or George
00:23:17
Bush over a commercial were you allowed
00:23:20
to use that stuff on D on Dana Carvey
00:23:22
Show I technically because of my
00:23:24
contract when I came in I owned the
00:23:26
church L that back then you could like
00:23:30
write you could write a list of the
00:23:32
characters that you created before going
00:23:35
to Saturday Night Live and D had a long
00:23:37
list and so yeah nowadays it's the
00:23:40
complete opposite like they own
00:23:42
everything and then you have like after
00:23:45
seven years you have to do movies with
00:23:47
the I don't know just do a mandatory
00:23:50
then you do movies you go back to the
00:23:51
show it is different you do commercials
00:23:53
and movies and you miss shows and you go
00:23:55
back on the show it's pretty cool for
00:23:56
the cast I yeah it's really yeah now
00:23:59
that's true now yeah leading up to this
00:24:01
50th they're all they're all they all
00:24:03
come and go they they told me to G told
00:24:05
me my manager said write on the flight
00:24:07
out there write all your characters and
00:24:09
give them to Jim Henry and I'm sitting
00:24:11
there with a blank piece of paper on
00:24:12
them Delta going I don't what characters
00:24:14
what are you [ __ ] talking about I'm a
00:24:16
standup so I'd go skateboard crazy guy
00:24:19
talks with the lisp you know I'm just
00:24:21
like making up something in case I write
00:24:23
it one day or in case it sounds like a
00:24:25
sketch I do and it clicks and thing like
00:24:29
yeah you need a man or thing but Robert
00:24:31
do you want to talk about some of our
00:24:34
hits your big monster hits you well
00:24:38
together yeah yeah well I mean I Dana so
00:24:41
I was there for a year before Dana and
00:24:45
then I got in in 86 with
00:24:48
phil6 and he was like someone I had I
00:24:51
connected with what I loved about Dana
00:24:53
was that he Spade you'll understand this
00:24:57
like generally like passive aggressive
00:25:00
behavior rules at that show like who
00:25:04
good I could Poss no my sketch is
00:25:06
terrible don't put my sketch on it
00:25:09
couldn't possibly me I I'm being paid
00:25:13
like that's what and then there's people
00:25:15
like LoveIt who are like what's going
00:25:18
on they're anti-semitic that's why the
00:25:21
sketch didn't make it you know why they
00:25:23
cut it because it's funny that's it was
00:25:26
too good it was too funny that's why
00:25:29
they didn't put it on yeah I would John
00:25:30
was great I was sadly a little closer to
00:25:32
John I was like Robert you have no Poker
00:25:35
Face L I remember him telling me there
00:25:38
were people like me I didn't really make
00:25:41
big stinks though but I was you know
00:25:42
imitating Lauren behind his back like
00:25:44
everybody eventually now everybody I'm
00:25:46
told I'm told you go to the show now
00:25:49
everybody does
00:25:50
Lauren literally lit literally everyone
00:25:54
they all you've seen this have you
00:25:57
witnessed this well that's what I heard
00:26:00
James Austin Johnson had a good one you
00:26:02
know Bill hater of course any Reon but I
00:26:04
think people they say that people just
00:26:06
do it around the office oh just around
00:26:08
you to each other uh read through is
00:26:10
going to start everyone get to their
00:26:12
seat you know and that's like a first I
00:26:15
right what I loved about Dana was that
00:26:18
he had he just came in he had a list of
00:26:22
Impressions that he like handed out to
00:26:24
the writers like he wasn't he didn't
00:26:26
pretend that he was above doing that
00:26:29
which was like so refreshing to actually
00:26:33
admit that you care without being like
00:26:36
throat or anything he was just being
00:26:38
straightforward I just thought it made
00:26:39
sense I I was able to do a bunch of
00:26:41
voices I thought well let the writers
00:26:43
know because I realized you guys are
00:26:45
just writing sketches and if someone
00:26:47
sees Casey KAS or something maybe they'd
00:26:49
put him in I don't know of course that's
00:26:51
the best way to do it here you go here
00:26:52
you go Jack Handy here you go Odin Kirk
00:26:55
first Robert you approached me with was
00:26:58
Robin Leech doing some kind of Japanese
00:27:01
pruning or arigami I don't know why I
00:27:04
don't remember yeah cuz you'd seen his
00:27:06
name on the list but I had a catchphrase
00:27:08
for that one I'm Robin Leech I'm yelling
00:27:10
and I don't know why so I had that I
00:27:12
loved Robin Leech but then it was for
00:27:15
everyone under
00:27:17
70 but Robin Le was such lifesty rich
00:27:20
and famous of a celebrity that is no
00:27:23
longer with us one of my Impressions you
00:27:25
know Dino stenops who our listeners no
00:27:28
every time someone I do an impression of
00:27:30
passes away he texts me another one
00:27:32
another one down whether it's or bush
00:27:35
you know you're gonna kill in heaven
00:27:37
Dana someday yeah
00:27:40
yeah I didn't know Dino did that I
00:27:43
thought Robin Leech was so hilarious and
00:27:45
he had a great hook for it I don't know
00:27:48
why oh no everything Dana I thought
00:27:49
Dana's Travolta was hysterical because
00:27:51
it was was so it was so not what
00:27:54
Travolta sounded like in the 80s anymore
00:27:57
no just like he's basically doing an
00:28:00
exaggerated back cter welcome back cter
00:28:03
for everyone listen key to that if you
00:28:05
want to do John trol just say the word
00:28:08
weird slack so weird
00:28:11
slack weird is entry to that but slack
00:28:15
but also slack so what's that what's
00:28:18
that well it's like Dana would say slack
00:28:21
so weird slack slack so weird you know
00:28:25
everybody should just whatever connected
00:28:29
because we liked and doing we like doing
00:28:32
impressions that were kind of abstract
00:28:35
we like creating abstract Impressions
00:28:38
and so you know Dana had some under his
00:28:40
belt obviously and then I tried to help
00:28:42
him with you know Johnny Carson and
00:28:45
Regis the Regis thing was very strange
00:28:47
because like I wrote it for Phil
00:28:49
Hartman I wrote it for Phil Hartman and
00:28:52
it went to dress it didn't do great and
00:28:55
then Dana in his gentless non- cutthroat
00:28:58
way just happened upon me like a week
00:29:00
later and was like you know I'm Regis is
00:29:04
kind of small and Irish and like I had
00:29:06
just had a total blank I had just picked
00:29:08
Phil because he was the oldest cast
00:29:10
member yeah and I thought of I thought
00:29:12
of him as just okay he's the old guy
00:29:15
comparatively but Dana was absolutely
00:29:17
right he looked more like Regis and then
00:29:19
he started doing him and well I I didn't
00:29:22
realize when I started watching him in
00:29:24
New York he had essentially just just
00:29:26
got on nationally but we would up around
00:29:28
9: Paul and I and we would watch it and
00:29:30
we just fell in love with him oh yeah
00:29:33
most Charming guy in the world and then
00:29:35
getting to know you yeah just hanging
00:29:36
out in your office so we started you
00:29:38
know bouncing off are you ready for this
00:29:39
you're about control this guy's crazy
00:29:41
and you had all the I think one of your
00:29:43
things very Robert Smigel or something
00:29:45
about you know I'm doubt at the shid is
00:29:47
and I'm behind broka I can I can't get a
00:29:49
seat you know so we we bonded over all
00:29:51
that thing of like the explosion this
00:29:54
was something that he really did on the
00:29:56
show BR got the front row seat and I'm
00:29:59
sitting with you know Patrick swayy in
00:30:02
the in the back anyway it was a great
00:30:05
event he takes a of his coffee anyway it
00:30:08
was terrific like he's got nothing else
00:30:10
so he just goes to Joy was there joy we
00:30:13
wish them well yeah when Joy hosted that
00:30:15
was always uh Regis was uh but you can't
00:30:18
let Dana around an impression he keep
00:30:21
come circling it's like all right just
00:30:22
give it to him he's going to figure it
00:30:24
out Joe and then his when he wrote his
00:30:26
book they said we want to call it I'm
00:30:27
out of control and you had to go out you
00:30:29
know honest never ever said I'm out of
00:30:31
control that something made Dan made up
00:30:34
but I don't understand Garney but um the
00:30:38
you know one so we had you know and then
00:30:40
Carson came around um and just I started
00:30:44
playing around with it I think the
00:30:46
Turners actually had written a Carson
00:30:49
sketch did they and I looked at it you
00:30:52
showed it to me and I had just a couple
00:30:54
of moves in my head and then it sort of
00:30:56
brought out some moves that you had
00:30:59
like the thing
00:31:01
that I love Johnny Carson so much he was
00:31:04
like incredible voice in the 70s when I
00:31:06
was a teenager growing up um I used to
00:31:09
watch him constantly and yeah um he was
00:31:11
so charismatic and he's still the
00:31:13
greatest ever but there was then
00:31:15
Letterman came on in like the early 80s
00:31:19
and
00:31:20
immediately got some you know the anti
00:31:24
show or whatever you want to call that
00:31:26
well he was like Reinventing everything
00:31:28
and then Johnny For No Good Reason
00:31:31
started feeling insecure about it you
00:31:33
could see it on the show because he
00:31:34
started trying to do things that
00:31:36
Letterman was doing but he didn't know
00:31:38
how to do it the way Letterman did
00:31:40
Letterman would just let them happen
00:31:43
Johnny would be like we're about to do
00:31:45
something that's a little
00:31:46
weird this is a little different this is
00:31:49
not not the norm that's right you know
00:31:53
we're going to walk over we're GNA take
00:31:55
a camera and it's going to follow me I
00:31:57
can't do them as well as you Dana but it
00:31:59
was like clinch your jaw I'm yeah clinch
00:32:02
your jaw thank you clch your jaw camera
00:32:05
is going to follow me and it's gonna
00:32:07
walk out of the studio and I'm gonna go
00:32:11
to another set it's like okay we ask
00:32:14
unusual questions people ask unusual
00:32:17
questions that people are not going to
00:32:18
know is even they don't know what's
00:32:20
going to happen all right so let's start
00:32:22
doing it now I'm walking you see I'm
00:32:24
walking across and it this is a you were
00:32:27
witnessing a bit a little weird and so
00:32:30
that was I was giving him this a little
00:32:31
weird had this expression he had a
00:32:34
couple of things like when Johnny like
00:32:36
calls people over to the comedians like
00:32:39
funny stuff funny that was funny stuff
00:32:42
and then you had weird wild that Weir
00:32:44
wild stuff and for those you at home
00:32:45
you're watching a thing called a
00:32:47
television you know how you would bring
00:32:49
it became that where we just did the
00:32:51
overly set up Johnny Carson thing and
00:32:54
then it was so dry it was maybe the
00:32:56
driest thing you ever did on the show
00:32:59
Dana and then but it always Ed
00:33:02
McMahon's Ed McMahon's rhythmically kind
00:33:05
of uh yes acknowledging it and um you
00:33:08
know giving it like just like yes you
00:33:11
are correct sir would always make it
00:33:13
work it was like the fact that you would
00:33:15
say these strange things and then Ed
00:33:17
would kind of affirm
00:33:20
them yeah he was the release button but
00:33:23
that was the first time and I've said
00:33:24
this before but when I was on SNL and
00:33:26
wasn't concerned with with the laughs I
00:33:28
just was having so much fun being Johnny
00:33:31
and when I got the wig on I am Irish
00:33:33
Carson Carvey my eyes are a little close
00:33:35
together and I I go God I kind of look
00:33:38
like him you know and then I could just
00:33:39
look in the mirror and just uh just get
00:33:41
into that attitude of being just this
00:33:44
whatever that you go into hair and
00:33:45
makeup too it's just that great really
00:33:47
set you up and um then the the third
00:33:50
rail of the ones that really had a lot
00:33:52
of episodes Carson did carcino we could
00:33:54
talk about that too reg just had a lot
00:33:56
of careno anyway well carcino let's
00:33:59
let's do that now because that was the
00:34:02
extension of the Carson impression we
00:34:04
did we did one before that that actually
00:34:07
did piss Johnny off and and then they I
00:34:10
don't know I don't know if they asked
00:34:11
you to do that late night history show
00:34:13
but they asked me so I did it and I
00:34:15
talked about it and then they edited to
00:34:17
make it look like we didn't really give
00:34:20
a [ __ ] how Johnny felt responded to it
00:34:22
and we did we were really upset about it
00:34:26
like we did this sketch
00:34:28
where Areno so Chris Rock gets hired in
00:34:32
like
00:34:33
1990 and um plays aru Hall yeah which he
00:34:37
didn't do like I remember I that's
00:34:39
another guy I got to see audition and he
00:34:41
was hysterical and like
00:34:43
obviously you know incredible obvious
00:34:46
hire but I remember asking Lauren does
00:34:49
it matter he doesn't seem to be an
00:34:51
impressionist he'll do our sh
00:34:54
you don't worry about uh he's got the
00:34:58
hair and he can do
00:35:01
Areno just remember it's
00:35:03
like black guys on the show always had
00:35:06
the burden of having to do like every
00:35:08
black person yes we talked about that
00:35:10
with Chris yeah oh you did little bit I
00:35:12
think Dave brought yeah it is tough
00:35:15
because everything just gets a signed
00:35:17
and no matter you know if it's even
00:35:19
closed okay Chris you're doing Al Roker
00:35:20
this
00:35:22
week yeah isers bit played an Asian
00:35:26
character I played Tony Montana as like
00:35:29
a Cuban character you know I had a
00:35:32
bigger I wonder if you could write that
00:35:34
Robert um today is like can you write
00:35:37
anyone to play anything but they what
00:35:39
they are I don't know how they do it
00:35:41
there I wonder if their meetings and go
00:35:42
could I play this or oh at SNL yeah at
00:35:46
SNL well they definitely let women play
00:35:49
men men yeah they still let that happen
00:35:52
no I know it's it's it's it's
00:35:54
interesting because like even like
00:35:57
something like I mean I totally
00:36:00
blackface thing is obviously a red flag
00:36:03
and It's oddly it's something we didn't
00:36:05
do in our era and started happen in 9
00:36:09
yeah the '90s were a strange time where
00:36:11
it seemed like the floodgates opened and
00:36:13
people were doing exceptionally rude
00:36:16
stuff I don't know if it's because cable
00:36:18
was starting and the networks felt the
00:36:19
need to
00:36:20
compete but you try too hard and you go
00:36:24
in different directions that are
00:36:25
sometimes wrong directions you just
00:36:26
don't know and then yeah it levels out
00:36:29
yeah but like I just did this puppet
00:36:32
show that uh failed whatever like and we
00:36:36
had this guy who was gonna do Obama and
00:36:39
he had done Obama on the Conan show for
00:36:42
like three or four years and he just
00:36:44
sounded exactly like Obama so I wanted
00:36:47
to hire him and then I found out that he
00:36:49
was white I didn't realize I had no idea
00:36:52
I just knew he sounded exactly like
00:36:54
Obama and they said you can't hire him
00:36:56
did they ever call you now uh smile to
00:36:59
uh write or help or come off the bench
00:37:01
and uh no I I was there when Adam no
00:37:03
they never call me they
00:37:06
don't they um although I actually sent
00:37:09
Colin J an idea this week and didn't
00:37:12
didn't hear back didn't hear back it was
00:37:15
an an a win tour idea I thought don't
00:37:18
don't try to give him Iraqi Pete that's
00:37:20
Adams actually you would be great for
00:37:22
this on a win tour idea is that me
00:37:25
playing him or Dana no no I'm talking
00:37:28
about Spade it's it's a very hey it's a
00:37:30
very could own that Spade playing Anna
00:37:33
win tour the idea was um that she uh it
00:37:38
was like an update feature where Anna
00:37:40
Wintour is uh sitting next to somebody
00:37:43
like uh who's the guy Jared Leto he's
00:37:46
always wearing something insane they
00:37:48
just had the Met G Gala yeah yeah Jared
00:37:50
Leto yeah he's got great F you know and
00:37:52
then it was just going to be on a win
00:37:54
tour very quietly and dryly and very
00:37:56
stiff uh insulting you know um Michael
00:38:01
chay's outfit Michael Chas suit you know
00:38:04
like uh is this a fundraiser for victims
00:38:08
of fashion and then like um you
00:38:12
know and then she turns to Colin J is
00:38:15
like you know is that a suit or are you
00:38:17
being humped by a couch and then she
00:38:20
starts getting Rim shots and just starts
00:38:23
walking into the crowd and starts doing
00:38:26
walking around yeah walking around the
00:38:28
stands up and doing crowd work but she's
00:38:32
she's completely stiff you know and it's
00:38:34
just if that tie was any louder Marley
00:38:37
Matlin could hear
00:38:40
it looks like Joseph A Bank made it
00:38:43
tonight what if Triumph was at the Met G
00:38:48
what would he do crazy actually I've
00:38:50
tried to I've wanted to do the red caret
00:38:52
at that's one of the few things I've I
00:38:56
still want to do as please don't let
00:38:58
Triumph around Kim
00:39:01
K well she lost 16 now I have like these
00:39:04
personal relationships that I care about
00:39:06
like I would never touch her
00:39:09
because Pete Davidson's a friend oh
00:39:12
friend of the show no I he's a great guy
00:39:15
I know him and but like Dana this is
00:39:17
something well we never talked about the
00:39:19
Carson thing but this is another one
00:39:21
that all right I don't know if you want
00:39:22
to talk about this but I'll talk about
00:39:24
anything we're 30 or I'm 30 or 32 or
00:39:27
whatever you were and Dennis gets
00:39:30
bounced from his syndicated show yeah
00:39:34
and I have this idea to do Dennis is now
00:39:36
doing a cooking show right which we we
00:39:39
called Dennis and he said f go ahead
00:39:41
right you did call him I maybe you
00:39:44
called him I didn't call him yeah I
00:39:47
believe I called him yeah I don't think
00:39:50
we but that was like then and I and I
00:39:52
thought in my head I was like this is my
00:39:54
duty as a Saturday Night Live sketch
00:39:56
writer I can't play favorites you know I
00:40:00
I this is my privilege to work duty
00:40:01
comes first yeah that's how I seriously
00:40:04
I took it to the show I would say by
00:40:06
like the time I was 40 I was like no I
00:40:08
would never do that again yeah well I
00:40:11
don't think at that point there was any
00:40:13
sort of uh idea that Dennis wasn't on
00:40:17
his way with a career like he done the
00:40:19
black and white special he had the talk
00:40:21
show you know I me all he did after that
00:40:24
was host an HBO show that got like 20 m
00:40:27
so to me to me I thought it was so funny
00:40:30
and the way you wrote it Dennis's
00:40:33
vernacular in a in a daytime cooking
00:40:35
show I don't know if you could quote I
00:40:37
mean maybe maybe you're right but I feel
00:40:39
like I still wouldn't do it now I
00:40:41
wouldn't be able to I'd be too nervous
00:40:43
about whoever's feelings it was sure I I
00:40:47
understand that I I feel the same way I
00:40:49
I like I kind of sometimes feel bad for
00:40:52
Biden when I see him sort of lost or
00:40:54
whatever and so it's different doing it
00:40:56
now weird when you get older and life
00:40:59
kind of kicks you in the nuts and and
00:41:00
you learn what pain is and uh yeah you
00:41:04
get how careers are so hard and up and
00:41:07
down you're like I'm going to probably
00:41:08
hurt someone's career somehow
00:41:10
accidentally you know who Biden's hair
00:41:12
looks like a spiderweb go ahead the one
00:41:15
person who would always scold me when I
00:41:16
was even when I was younger and I guess
00:41:18
it's because he was sensitive to all the
00:41:20
bad reviews he was getting was Sandler
00:41:24
he was like like I was doing those
00:41:26
cartoons and they were going really well
00:41:28
yeah yeah you know I would do a cartoon
00:41:30
about like David brener or something yes
00:41:33
being a guest on a talk show and it was
00:41:34
fun with real audio and I would use a
00:41:37
real David Brer story but I would have
00:41:38
him going on every talk show and each
00:41:41
host would get bored and press a trapo
00:41:43
button and he would fall down and go
00:41:45
like you know so he starts on like the
00:41:48
tonight's show and then trapo goes down
00:41:50
to Conan and then it goes down to like
00:41:52
Tom Snider and then hilarious I remember
00:41:55
that one yeah yeah and it was really
00:41:57
funny and everybody I played it for
00:42:00
Conan because Conan was in it and he was
00:42:02
laughing really hard and then I get a
00:42:04
call from sandley you feel good about
00:42:05
yourself bud you feel good about that no
00:42:08
that guy that what if that guy's home
00:42:10
watching you know he's like had a hard
00:42:12
day and he's watching the show and he's
00:42:13
like yeah what is this why what did I do
00:42:16
yeah why he did brener didn't he Sandler
00:42:19
could do brener on the show he did a
00:42:21
great David brenon that's right but it
00:42:23
wasn't nearly as mean as this cartoon no
00:42:26
it wasn't mean it remember the one you
00:42:28
did where you had you had stemman hiding
00:42:30
from Oprah in the Mansion oh my God that
00:42:32
was that was from The Comedy Central
00:42:34
show and it's interesting you bring that
00:42:37
up because that was a cartoon I wasn't
00:42:39
GNA do it was one of those lines that I
00:42:42
would draw for myself which people are
00:42:44
always shocked you had L I did but I I
00:42:48
like I didn't like to make fun of drug
00:42:51
addiction I I always felt like when
00:42:54
people are you know that desperate it's
00:42:57
not funny ultim it's like you know
00:43:00
everybody it's easy to reduce somebody
00:43:03
to a cartoon character but I that was
00:43:06
one and another one was women's looks I
00:43:10
really hated making fun of a woman for
00:43:13
her looks because women are held up to
00:43:15
these ridiculous standards and uh it
00:43:18
just felt shitty and so this Oprah one
00:43:20
was Andy bregman's premise and it the
00:43:22
premise was that
00:43:25
Stedman uh every time Oprah wants to
00:43:28
have sex stemman has convinced Oprah
00:43:31
that he's an international
00:43:33
spy and every time Oprah wants to have
00:43:36
sex stemman pretends he's getting an
00:43:38
alert and he has to go off I'm not
00:43:41
making it sound as funny as no so funny
00:43:44
and so like it I broke the rule because
00:43:47
it was just too funny and it it remains
00:43:51
like one of the funniest cartoons I've
00:43:53
ever been involved in and uh but it was
00:43:56
Andy breckman idea also one of the
00:43:58
nicest people I've ever worked with Andy
00:44:01
breckman and he had this idea that I
00:44:03
thought was too
00:44:09
meat ask him about the Bears the Bears
00:44:11
is a big one I
00:44:13
love I just want to say very quickly
00:44:15
that I know that John mclocklin which
00:44:17
you completely created loved loved our
00:44:21
sketch oh yeah Regis loved it perau
00:44:25
loved it George bu senior loved it it
00:44:28
was only sweet Johnny Carson got a
00:44:30
little tweaked and I don't Johnny Carson
00:44:32
we should talk about this one cuz it was
00:44:34
like uh so yes so rock comes on I got
00:44:38
I'm sorry car Ro comes on and plays Aro
00:44:42
Rock comes on and plays Areno and if
00:44:44
this was at this time when Johnny was
00:44:46
getting sort of threatened by aro's
00:44:48
presence Areno was white hot that's a
00:44:51
bad choice of words I suppose but Areno
00:44:54
was like on fire every everybody was
00:44:58
talking about him and we did that thing
00:44:59
of like now I understand that this you
00:45:02
know that would overe explaining thing
00:45:03
but in this case it was like I
00:45:05
understand you have a show Dana you
00:45:08
should do it you remember I understand
00:45:09
you have a show and um it's um and it
00:45:13
says here he was like looking at his
00:45:15
notes it says here that your show is up
00:45:18
against my show yes and
00:45:21
I I did not know that and your ratings
00:45:24
have actually gone up higher than mine
00:45:27
are starting to deine right it's weird I
00:45:30
did not know that and now it says here
00:45:33
it says further that your show is
00:45:34
considered
00:45:35
hip and mine I am starting to be
00:45:38
considered out of touch yeah I did not
00:45:42
did you know that
00:45:44
yes really sad yes yes but but the thing
00:45:49
that Johnny got madest at
00:45:51
Dana do you remember this it was the
00:45:54
first guest we had a throwaway first
00:45:56
guest before we bring on our C shape of
00:45:59
Susan day right it was Susan day and I
00:46:02
had written it for sheno Connor for Jan
00:46:04
Hooks to play
00:46:05
chenade because she had already done it
00:46:07
and it was hilarious and um she's very
00:46:09
serious and you know you guys are just
00:46:11
would be doing not not a lot of hair on
00:46:14
her head that's is that is that is quite
00:46:17
a dome you know all that kind of stuff a
00:46:19
little smooth smooth on the upper Turf
00:46:23
yeah not a hairy woman sir
00:46:27
from ear to ear not a lot going on
00:46:29
Lauren was like uh you know she's done
00:46:32
chenade she does a killer Susan day
00:46:34
which she had done once on the show and
00:46:35
it was killer so Lauren suggested Lauren
00:46:39
suggested and it wasn't like it wasn't
00:46:41
funny he suggested what if he has Susan
00:46:43
Deon but he keeps wanting to talk about
00:46:45
The Partridge Family and it had been 15
00:46:48
years since it gone off yeah yes there
00:46:50
and so that was how we wrote it and then
00:46:52
Johnny took
00:46:54
it as like are you seeing this he really
00:46:57
he said this on the show they're saying
00:46:58
I'm
00:47:00
scile he literally thought we were now
00:47:03
calling him scile all because we had
00:47:05
changed that opening that the one that I
00:47:09
thought was yeah yeah he said it on he
00:47:13
said it as Dana or Johnny said it on his
00:47:16
own show he started wow wow bitching
00:47:20
about Saturday Night Live on his own
00:47:21
show and
00:47:23
Dana I heard you say this to Regis and
00:47:26
it broke my heart I had never heard this
00:47:28
you said to Reg just in an interview
00:47:30
like I don't know five six years ago I
00:47:32
saw you said that you heard that Johnny
00:47:37
said when they start making fun of you
00:47:40
it's time to go away well he would say
00:47:43
it at over in Burbank CU in the hallway
00:47:46
the big giant studio and just yell it
00:47:49
out they're making fun of me now it's
00:47:51
time to go yeah that that that what I
00:47:55
realized and I would take it for anyone
00:47:57
in Show Business that
00:47:59
eventually you become a character of
00:48:02
yourself if you're a comedian it doesn't
00:48:05
matter you I don't want to name the
00:48:06
person you could see someone and kind of
00:48:08
go is that a celebrity impersonator or
00:48:10
is that the real guy so you do become a
00:48:12
character T of yourself it's kind of
00:48:14
flattering but you know for Johnny I
00:48:17
couldn't get on the show after that
00:48:20
those last from SNL did for a year and
00:48:22
he really took it took it to heart and
00:48:25
sobre un but then yeah then I think I
00:48:29
also heard from
00:48:30
you back then so then we did the carcino
00:48:34
sketch which was basically Johnny as
00:48:36
trying to be like Areno trying to be
00:48:38
like arcenio Hall it was a big hit
00:48:41
sketch he had the pointy hair and he
00:48:43
elongated fingers yeah and he would did
00:48:45
you see this head all you have to do is
00:48:47
go whoop whoop whoop and the audience
00:48:49
goes whoop whoop whoop do you know that
00:48:52
a house is called a crib Ed did you know
00:48:55
that I didn't know that yeah yeah you
00:48:58
know Robert I did Carson two months
00:49:00
before he quit as standup oh wow and he
00:49:03
came back to the back and he goes who
00:49:06
hates Dana Carvey I go I do and he goes
00:49:08
That's my boy really no he no he didn't
00:49:11
he came back and said hi to me but I
00:49:13
remember it was very odd to get on the
00:49:14
show I did do it two months before he
00:49:17
got off and he did come back but he came
00:49:19
back and you were on Satur Li you broke
00:49:21
the code no I I was I on I he went off
00:49:25
in 93 I believe you were absolutely on
00:49:28
the show D okay for sure but let me just
00:49:30
say this real quick Carvey told me that
00:49:35
that he liked the carinio sketch he said
00:49:38
what did he say it makes fun of both you
00:49:40
know they're making fun of arino as much
00:49:42
as they're making fun of me I mean that
00:49:44
that that's funny stuff you know that
00:49:45
kind of thing so so I remember feeling a
00:49:47
lot better about and then and then he
00:49:49
did start letting people on the show
00:49:51
again no I mean I I was saying I got on
00:49:55
somehow and uh
00:49:57
I don't know just did my crummy act and
00:49:59
got out of there but uh stop it he did
00:50:02
he waved me over
00:50:03
SM and I I left I didn't
00:50:06
go you gave him the finger well the guy
00:50:09
backstage mcau said he goes get on there
00:50:12
hit your mark and get off and I go what
00:50:14
if Johnny waves you over and he goes he
00:50:16
won't just go do it and I go oh my God
00:50:19
so I went out and turned in left and he
00:50:21
goes there he is and the tap win he goes
00:50:25
Martin Short was with him and he goes
00:50:27
have him come over and he goes I'm
00:50:28
trying to but he won't look at me and he
00:50:30
goes he's too nervous all right there he
00:50:31
goes all right well that was David's
00:50:33
fate he said that on the air yeah that's
00:50:35
amazing and then he came backstage Where
00:50:39
Were You and I the [ __ ] were you left me
00:50:41
there with egg I had my shirt off you
00:50:44
made a [ __ ] fool yeah and it was a Bo
00:50:47
[ __ ] torrential storm back in my room
00:50:49
because I was so scared I have my shirt
00:50:51
off and I have pepto bismo and they
00:50:52
knock and I open and it's it's Ed I
00:50:55
think doc andn and he goes uh all three
00:50:58
of them I didn't yeah he goes I didn't
00:51:00
he goes I didn't get a chance to say
00:51:03
good job I wanted I come over and nice
00:51:06
job and I go oh I didn't see you or
00:51:07
whatever and he goes Pepto bismal I'm
00:51:09
trying to quit the stuff myself and then
00:51:12
he walked away isn't that
00:51:14
great a fantastic story he did a bit he
00:51:18
did a bit but in in reality he was um he
00:51:21
was broken inside and he he went around
00:51:24
the office and saids when they not not
00:51:27
coming over to the couch it's time to
00:51:30
who put you up to this Dana Carvey that
00:51:33
[ __ ] so it's you Spade yeah you're the
00:51:37
one who pushed him out no let's go let's
00:51:39
go Ed Ed let's go back and find him do
00:51:41
come on let's go I'll hit him high you
00:51:44
hit him low hit him low well talk about
00:51:47
mclin too because we that was a great
00:51:50
mclin group John mlin ran a round
00:51:54
table well we got to have everyone know
00:51:56
you did mclin you did the Bears so many
00:51:59
you did clucky [ __ ] gagag
00:52:03
goey you help me with the clucky or or
00:52:05
Schmitz gay you helped me with one of
00:52:07
those two I was almost in Schmitz gay
00:52:09
for a rough draft and then it went to
00:52:11
Sandler Farley to that was that was
00:52:13
Downey's idea and it was a brilliant
00:52:15
call to take the two youngest guys in
00:52:17
the cast and make them the guys that was
00:52:20
that was was I was I older than them I
00:52:23
originally I had it as Dana and Kevin
00:52:25
because I thought it this is GNA be be
00:52:26
the first sketch of the year and Dana
00:52:28
and Kevin are the guys and then I don't
00:52:31
remember a draft with you I remember
00:52:33
some maybe Shoemaker someone said I
00:52:35
think you're in this thing remind me
00:52:36
what this sketch
00:52:38
is oh oh oh Schmid gay that was a became
00:52:41
a film didn't it that was a big one yeah
00:52:43
no think The Ambiguously Gay Duo
00:52:46
commercial Sandler and Farley did
00:52:49
something by a pool yeah with Van Hal
00:52:51
music it was a parody of all those so
00:52:54
that that was it you know sexist beer
00:52:57
commercials it's one of the ones I'm
00:52:58
most proud of great hysterical but that
00:53:02
ended up being also like that the gay
00:53:04
people weren't like portrayed in any
00:53:07
kind of like mocking way right the whole
00:53:09
joke was turning the tables on these
00:53:12
objectifying these ridiculous
00:53:14
commercials that associate beer with
00:53:17
objectifying
00:53:18
women it just got this
00:53:20
huge it got one of the biggest responses
00:53:23
I ever so great Halen song in it oh yeah
00:53:27
yeah yeah yeah and Farley and Sandler
00:53:30
doing the congol line yeah it was
00:53:32
amazing but um but Spade I thought you
00:53:34
either help me with that or cluck and
00:53:36
chicken which is my personal favorite oh
00:53:38
cluck and chicken I don't know I mean
00:53:39
sometimes I just get in there and try to
00:53:40
help anywhere I could I think you threw
00:53:43
me some jokes in that maybe I threw you
00:53:44
gagag gag
00:53:46
[ __ ] that sounded like me the gagag
00:53:50
G me oh I love uh uh Sandler's voice and
00:53:55
that was so funny that was the cartoon
00:53:57
that was half cartoon commercial parody
00:54:00
yeah cartoon Yes cartoon Super that's
00:54:02
how I met the guy JJ settel who ended up
00:54:05
doing um the first few years of TV funh
00:54:09
House cartoon fun house welcome back to
00:54:11
my show you but you put Lauren's voice
00:54:14
in there Did anyone say anything that's
00:54:17
maybe the hardest I've ever laughed in
00:54:18
my life because I became a 10-year-old
00:54:21
again like the way I would when I was 10
00:54:24
I would draw cartoons of my teachers
00:54:26
that kind of thing yeah and when a
00:54:28
teacher would see I would like giggle
00:54:31
like and I remember the first time you
00:54:35
saw dress rehearsal that The Ambiguously
00:54:37
Gay Duo ran and and then this little
00:54:40
cartoon Lauren comes out and chases the
00:54:42
dog Lego My Show Lego my show and I'm
00:54:47
watching Lauren watch it oh my God and
00:54:49
I'm just in tears I was like you know
00:54:53
Lauren would call it you put a beanie on
00:54:55
the boss you
00:54:58
put what is that just made fun of the
00:55:01
boss or Bean the boss it's like it's
00:55:02
like reducing the boss to a you know
00:55:05
lower status it's like you know Lauren
00:55:08
had a term for every comedy move in the
00:55:10
world totally I've seen every sketch
00:55:13
four times you know so it's hard for me
00:55:16
everything you've anyone's written I've
00:55:18
seen a version of it in my life one of
00:55:20
my favorite recent Lauren ones within
00:55:22
the Last 5 Years Around funny people
00:55:24
people that do comedy there's only 900
00:55:28
of us on the planet oh really yeah so a
00:55:31
specific number like well maybe that's
00:55:34
true I don't know we did run some
00:55:35
numbers down to
00:55:37
898 yes if you don't count Steve and
00:55:40
Marty Steve counts for three Marty he
00:55:44
counts for a 100 I think uh Robert good
00:55:48
didn't we ask William Shatner if he was
00:55:51
okay with that sketch you wrote I think
00:55:53
he was right oh yeah I pitched it to him
00:55:55
and he like sketch yeah that was a big
00:55:57
famous sketch that you wrote still
00:56:00
resonates all the time that's a big big
00:56:02
one well I have an affinity for nerds
00:56:04
because I was an SNL nerd I was big a
00:56:07
nerd as anybody I was completely in awe
00:56:10
of the show when I got there I like knew
00:56:13
who Edie Baskin and Leo Yoshimura were
00:56:17
like I memorized
00:56:19
them I was yeah so yeah like you know a
00:56:23
lot of my most famous stuff has to do
00:56:25
with like Triumph and the Star Wars line
00:56:28
is one of my happiest memories because I
00:56:31
was like making fun of them but I felt
00:56:34
an affinity toward them at the same time
00:56:36
the the Nerds waiting online for Star
00:56:38
Wars and triumphs uh they were all like
00:56:42
they all took it so
00:56:43
well they were all just comedy fans like
00:56:47
yeah it was like when it was like have
00:56:50
you guys did you guys I'm sure you spay
00:56:52
a you both probably got to meet Don
00:56:54
Rickles right yeah I did did yep did he
00:56:57
insult you when he met you the first
00:56:58
time do do an impression of a gorilla is
00:57:01
what he said to me oh really yeah you
00:57:04
know uh smes on um one time Christoper
00:57:08
Harley took his mom to see him on one of
00:57:10
the breaks on the week's off and he goes
00:57:12
and he goes I go what happened he goes
00:57:14
we sat right in the front row and uh he
00:57:17
goes Rickles comes over to him in the
00:57:19
middle and goes what's your name tiny
00:57:22
and he goes he goes my name's Chris and
00:57:25
he goes how much you weigh Chris and he
00:57:27
goes about 260 he goes the left side of
00:57:31
your ass
00:57:33
maybe and then he went to the next table
00:57:35
Yeah and then he so he knew that it was
00:57:37
Chris right I don't know I don't know
00:57:39
it's just all funny so funny just like
00:57:42
I'm just gonna treat him like anybody
00:57:43
else yeah he just goes there's a fat guy
00:57:45
in the front sir maybe go for him yeah
00:57:47
he has a little bug in his ear yeah when
00:57:50
he got older fat guy three three lady
00:57:53
wearing a flower box hat take four steps
00:57:56
to the right that Guyer closer that's
00:57:58
him that's
00:58:00
him get
00:58:02
him I took it as a badge of honor I love
00:58:05
being ripped by yeah when when I met him
00:58:08
I was a producer at the Conan show I
00:58:10
think or no I was doing Triumph I think
00:58:13
and I did it for for Rickles but but I
00:58:16
met him first they introduced me because
00:58:18
they wanted to make it okay that you
00:58:21
know make sure he would be cool with it
00:58:23
and he sees me and he just says hello
00:58:25
rabbi
00:58:26
which I later heard was a move he had
00:58:29
for a lot of
00:58:31
citic was his move like John Stewart
00:58:33
told me once that that was the first
00:58:35
thing he said to John Stewart when I'm
00:58:37
yeah he had his big just a good safe
00:58:40
offensive across the board thing to say
00:58:42
yeah you know we've all got our standard
00:58:44
zingers going full full circle toward
00:58:47
the end you think Triumph never said the
00:58:49
buzz around flies around my ass before
00:58:51
you're sad right there's only so many
00:58:54
mathematical ways to get it that ass
00:58:57
joke okay they can be flying around but
00:59:00
re just told me once this was to when
00:59:03
when Rickles was still on the road you
00:59:04
know honest to God some nights you don't
00:59:06
know if he's going to make it they give
00:59:07
him two eyeballs he's rubbing his knees
00:59:10
honest to God I don't know and they play
00:59:11
the music he goes out and he kills him
00:59:13
for an hour kid then he lies down the
00:59:15
couch I like honest to God honest honest
00:59:17
to God who's better than Robert smad to
00:59:20
got this guy he's everywhere I mean you
00:59:23
know it really is he was really nice to
00:59:25
me too I one time this is
00:59:27
insane I had an idea for a sitcom and
00:59:30
it's one of the happiest half hours of
00:59:32
my whole life I got to sit in the hotel
00:59:34
room and Pitch Larry King and Regis
00:59:37
filbin a sitcom where they played an old
00:59:40
gay
00:59:41
couple and they took it dead serious
00:59:44
like this is a great idea and they had
00:59:47
already like consulted Rickles about it
00:59:49
and Larry King's like rickle says we can
00:59:51
do it but we can't be too swishy swishy
00:59:57
and um you know we would just talk about
00:59:59
it and Regis the funniest was Regis he
01:00:01
was like so Bob again I apologize for my
01:00:04
inferior Regis but it's like so if we do
01:00:07
this you know I know there's gonna be a
01:00:09
script but not not really right I mean
01:00:12
you know we can get out there and Larry
01:00:13
and I can just go off right just play
01:00:15
off each other right I well there's a
01:00:18
story to the you know it's a sitcom it's
01:00:21
got to have yeah but Bob I mean yeah B
01:00:24
learning lines and yeah I mean we have a
01:00:26
natural thing
01:00:28
but rickle says rickle says we just have
01:00:31
to look natural I'm like when did
01:00:33
Rickles become the Oracle of s run
01:00:36
everything by Rickles Mr C CPO shy CPO
01:00:40
shy 1975 yeah if you have a copy of that
01:00:43
treatment can you send it to me and Dana
01:00:46
um I don't think I ever bothered to
01:00:47
write it somehow they said yes to just
01:00:50
meeting with me for a half an hour one
01:00:53
one other thing that smile has it's one
01:00:56
of the funniest titles is the autism
01:00:59
benefit the night of too many stars It's
01:01:03
the funniest done of course one both of
01:01:06
you have done it you um you've done it a
01:01:10
couple of times Dana you did the first
01:01:11
one and it was one of the greatest bits
01:01:14
that it's ever been on that we've done
01:01:16
like seven of them what was it well how
01:01:17
Wilner rest his soul yes music was an
01:01:21
incredibly great guy who uh was the
01:01:23
music supervisor or supervisor at
01:01:26
Saturday Night Live and for 200 years
01:01:29
for 200 years he missed the first um 300
01:01:33
and he um he would help me book he knew
01:01:37
everybody in music yeah and he would
01:01:40
help me book the show with you know he
01:01:43
we had a Booker who would be paid and
01:01:45
then Hal for free would get me you know
01:01:48
he got me Elvis Costello once he got me
01:01:50
sting and this particular bit he got me
01:01:53
Lou Reed and it was like a surprise
01:01:55
appearance the people in rosand you
01:01:57
remember we did this in rosand and they
01:01:59
crazy and Lou Reed comes out and it's
01:02:02
like Jimmy F saying Lou Reed and he's
01:02:04
gonna have an all-star band and then one
01:02:07
by one he introduces the all-star band
01:02:09
and it's all
01:02:11
comedians it's on the drums Dana Carvey
01:02:15
on the guitar con O'Brien I think
01:02:17
Sandler was there too Jack Black Adam
01:02:20
Sandler and Lou Reed played it perfectly
01:02:22
like this is the all-star band and and
01:02:25
then they did this
01:02:27
incredibly funny somewhat
01:02:30
disrespectful but
01:02:32
affectionate version of Walk on the Wild
01:02:35
Side I love it and it's on it's it's on
01:02:38
YouTube and and Sandler literally like
01:02:40
is right in his face
01:02:50
going Lou Reed got mad at me it was very
01:02:53
awkward I still remember
01:02:54
it yeah after the rehearsal I didn't
01:02:57
really have a monitor I could hear he
01:02:58
used to go take a walk on the wild side
01:03:00
so he very seriously as everyone
01:03:02
scattered just walked over to me and
01:03:04
just was intense Lou Reed and goes don't
01:03:06
do that don't do that don't do what
01:03:09
whatever he thought I was doing the
01:03:10
drums I go I'm a comedian and I can't
01:03:12
hear myself don't play like that you
01:03:14
know he just got very serious maybe it
01:03:15
was nerves but then we came out later he
01:03:17
was totally affable he was probably just
01:03:20
that that was the only thing he probably
01:03:22
cared about was that it sounded good
01:03:24
right and I wanted wanted to I wanted to
01:03:26
play well I just that my monitor drummer
01:03:28
and and you did you did it sounds
01:03:30
amazing oh that's good I guess I got it
01:03:32
on the air show we just had a brief
01:03:34
rehearsal you
01:03:36
absolutely you know Adam an incredible
01:03:38
Adam's a great guitarist and Conan's a
01:03:41
good guitarist and and Jack blacks I
01:03:43
mean these are like all the most musical
01:03:46
they just happen to all be there and
01:03:48
that song is brilliant but it is very
01:03:50
very austere and very simple which is
01:03:52
you know take a walk on you know it's
01:03:55
like it was perfect and everybody got a
01:03:57
turn uh you didn't because you were the
01:03:59
drummer but all every all these other
01:04:01
guys did solos in their different ways
01:04:04
right you know and um I learned a few
01:04:06
things from Smigel today I learned that
01:04:08
Franken and Davis hired him Franken and
01:04:11
Davis hired me that is correct Le his
01:04:13
dad invented Crest White Strips no
01:04:16
that's not true okay I invented I I I
01:04:19
heard that he to bonding he he was the
01:04:22
he developed the whole tooth bonding
01:04:24
technique right and I Lou Reed hates
01:04:26
Dana Carvey these are the only things
01:04:29
another one of my Impressions has gone
01:04:30
to the Stars I have Insight Insight onto
01:04:33
this involves you someone told me today
01:04:37
so Michael Gordon wants to go right for
01:04:39
the the Conan show he talks to Bob Bob
01:04:43
Odenkirk and Bob Odenkirk said wait wait
01:04:47
till we get Smigel as the head writer
01:04:51
and then somehow you got you became the
01:04:54
head writer and then you're talking
01:04:56
about the original Conan show I thought
01:04:58
you meant Michael Gordon wants to write
01:04:59
for the new con show oh sorry this is
01:05:01
always back in time when they but he
01:05:03
said Michael Gordon knew Bob Odenkirk I
01:05:06
think so or at least casually hey a so
01:05:10
funny Dana so good funny oh my God
01:05:14
that's so funny oh my God no you're not
01:05:18
doing that are you no was he mad about
01:05:21
chios cuz there's a rumor down he said I
01:05:23
was really mad about it and I wasn't
01:05:25
yeah that was something down he read
01:05:27
online he read online that you it was
01:05:29
the most ridiculous lie imaginable that
01:05:31
you like marched into laen
01:05:34
off
01:05:36
people you you were like you've been
01:05:38
there for like four weeks yeah I go you
01:05:41
know what Mars you would have tackled
01:05:43
the last you could have been there for
01:05:44
five years you never would have pounded
01:05:45
on Lauren's
01:05:47
door that was clearly made up but
01:05:49
there's a controvery around was that
01:05:51
exploitive of Chris or not people have
01:05:54
their different opinions
01:05:56
when he did the chi Andale sketch with
01:05:57
his shirt off I thought that I thought
01:06:00
the opposite which was I mean I just
01:06:02
have an
01:06:04
inherent I thought the people were not
01:06:06
laughing at Chris and I didn't see it
01:06:08
that way I thought because there have
01:06:09
been a million fat comedians who you
01:06:13
know exploit their bodies in some way or
01:06:16
another playoff being sure heavy Jackie
01:06:19
G the thing that I saw that night was an
01:06:23
audience fall in love with Chris yeah
01:06:25
because he was so committed and he was
01:06:27
such a good dancer great and he wasn't
01:06:29
he acted like he wasn't remotely ashamed
01:06:32
of his body you know that whether that's
01:06:34
you know obviously not necessarily the
01:06:36
truth but that's what he
01:06:38
projected and to me it was like if
01:06:41
anything they didn't use the word
01:06:43
empowering back then but to me that's
01:06:47
how it felt to me like you know the way
01:06:49
somebody like Bridget Everett where the
01:06:51
person is you know completely unself
01:06:55
conscious about their body at least it
01:06:59
played that way to me but you know I
01:07:01
would say this I would say if you saw
01:07:05
that in Chris if you felt that that that
01:07:08
was happening to Chris then maybe you
01:07:10
should have talked to Chris about it and
01:07:12
made sure it was cool with Chris instead
01:07:14
of just saying Tut Tut this is I know
01:07:18
thing I just saw a young cast
01:07:21
member I did not look there's different
01:07:23
levels this was Young Chris I saw a guy
01:07:26
very athletic I think anyone NE next to
01:07:29
Patrick sesy would look kind of chubby
01:07:32
and so Chris was moving really like a
01:07:34
chubby guy not like a Next Level he was
01:07:37
not even that big back then no and I saw
01:07:40
a guy killing with physical comedy but
01:07:43
but if he was sad about it inside I I
01:07:46
was clueless to it I was clueless too if
01:07:48
he was but I mean he when I saw him at
01:07:51
Second City that summer he was another
01:07:53
person I had the privilege of seeing
01:07:54
audition back then and he what struck me
01:07:59
about him at Second City was how
01:08:00
graceful he was like he was the opposite
01:08:03
of who got who gained some weight he's
01:08:06
he's he was an athlete yeah yeah yeah
01:08:08
and he was incredibly graceful and
01:08:10
that's what separated him besides you
01:08:12
know his incredible characterizations
01:08:15
like but you know so to
01:08:18
me that's um the sketch was the only
01:08:22
thing it was exploiting was his
01:08:24
incredible was what made him special I
01:08:27
would go by David's only CU David was
01:08:30
probably the closest to Chris I don't
01:08:32
remember any I don't think David was the
01:08:34
closest back then though maybe not back
01:08:36
then but after they did their movies and
01:08:38
stuff well right up there right that's
01:08:40
different by then Chris started to get
01:08:43
like like you know in the motivational
01:08:45
speaker sketch I remember adding I had
01:08:47
one contribution to that sketch because
01:08:49
Bob was no longer there oddly enough yes
01:08:52
Bob wrote the entire sketch and Spade
01:08:54
you know this I I added just that little
01:08:56
part at the end where he's like Matt's
01:08:58
gonna shade you you're here Matt's here
01:09:01
you're you know that thing yeah and KN
01:09:04
yeah that's great and he knocks over the
01:09:06
coffee table yeah and that was like I
01:09:09
just felt it needed like a physical
01:09:11
topper at the end yeah good we put it in
01:09:14
and it worked and then I feel though
01:09:16
that it did lead to like the slippery
01:09:18
slope of Farley knocking things down oh
01:09:20
he's going through walls the ceiling
01:09:22
yeah yeah it started it started
01:09:24
something I did not intend to to happen
01:09:28
well they're kind of waiting for it
01:09:29
after that every sketch they're like
01:09:31
what's he going to hit what's he going
01:09:32
to fall through well certainly with the
01:09:33
Matt Foley ones yeah but it started
01:09:35
happening in other sketches too he just
01:09:37
walks in falls down Fatt falls down
01:09:40
that's all you got fars I call then then
01:09:43
we started getting cynical about it like
01:09:45
Chris you know we would just come up
01:09:47
with different
01:09:48
names that Nancy carrian sketch she was
01:09:51
a great ice skater too that's true there
01:09:54
you go yeah he could ice as well yeah so
01:09:58
that canceled out stpp Andale so we're
01:10:00
even I just you know when people say
01:10:03
it's just very glib to like you know
01:10:05
that sketch set him off that it's just
01:10:09
so I just find that irresponsible to
01:10:12
well I never heard him complain about it
01:10:13
in the years to come so I I I think he
01:10:16
was just like if you're a young cast
01:10:18
member and that and you get a sketch
01:10:20
that's a 10 out of 10 and he took it and
01:10:23
it blew him up I don't think he ever
01:10:25
looked back and said but I felt like no
01:10:28
so many other things got did he ever
01:10:30
take his shirt off again on the show I
01:10:32
mean he he fell around and stuff and
01:10:35
walked through walls but I don't
01:10:36
remember him sure he did it didn't
01:10:37
become a thing let's get Chris's shirt
01:10:39
off so that's good too it I mean there
01:10:43
was a lot of restraint until like the
01:10:45
later I think it was wasn't until his
01:10:47
like third or fourth year it was like
01:10:49
people were running out of what to do
01:10:51
with them and it became like a shorthand
01:10:53
kind of cheap move
01:10:56
have Farley break something you know but
01:10:59
he was like oh my God Spade do you
01:11:02
remember with his acting in that uh Tom
01:11:05
Schiller oh the coffee one yeah just the
01:11:08
way his face changes when he when he
01:11:11
hears that they've switched
01:11:14
folders great it a great idea how many
01:11:16
takes does he get to trash the whole set
01:11:19
I know that was all Tom Schiller the
01:11:21
Schiller vision of the folders
01:11:23
commercial was a real hit but is kind of
01:11:26
at a gem that not everyone saw I put it
01:11:29
in the best of because of that yeah
01:11:31
great one so that people would see it
01:11:33
cuz it was it was one of his greatest
01:11:36
acting jobs
01:11:38
ever yeah I they could look it
01:11:43
[Music]
01:11:44
up all right let's W what anything else
01:11:47
for this guy Dana let's see um else for
01:11:51
this guy your social security number
01:11:53
just for this is just uh housekeeping
01:11:57
stay on and do the paperwork we're going
01:11:58
to jump off but um um no that's it
01:12:03
covered literally everything you've ever
01:12:04
done well we did a lot of SNL but
01:12:06
obviously Robert and I did the Dana
01:12:08
Carvey Show and he Ambiguously so funny
01:12:11
that we didn't talk about the Dana
01:12:13
Carvey Show it's all right it's a really
01:12:15
we're Saturday live Focus but that was
01:12:18
uh you'll do a whole podcast about that
01:12:20
some right we have a Hotel Transylvania
01:12:22
podcast after this if you want to stay
01:12:23
that's what I that's what I'm waiting
01:12:24
for you want to stay on you you were Z
01:12:27
just a Hotel Transylvania 2
01:12:31
podcast he did the cargo characters on
01:12:34
Conan which I loved you know the AR just
01:12:37
the lips and the AR talk about oh my God
01:12:41
we didn't talk about the Hans and fron
01:12:42
movie that would Hans and fr this is the
01:12:45
part of the show where where we just
01:12:46
talk about how much better the show
01:12:47
could have
01:12:49
been well H and fr movie oh what if we
01:12:53
have to have you back that's saw I wrote
01:12:55
all your stuff out today and I I knew
01:12:57
there was no way this was going to fit
01:12:59
into an hour and so I know I just that's
01:13:02
more than anything I wish ID talked
01:13:04
about that which one the Hans and fron
01:13:06
movie because because it's so funny and
01:13:10
crazy hyal movie Dana has talked about
01:13:12
it on here because it was the whole way
01:13:16
it got put together and then it didn't
01:13:17
work out but there was so many Hans and
01:13:20
fron the girly man dilemma but it was
01:13:23
not was not homophobic it was was just
01:13:26
girly men are not are just men without
01:13:28
big muscles like them you know do you
01:13:31
remember the part okay well this is
01:13:33
gonna we can't I was gonna talk about
01:13:36
the cisc and Ebert part was one of my
01:13:38
favorite yeah that whole story have 12
01:13:40
seconds goad Hans and frons were doing
01:13:42
their movie and they're running around
01:13:44
somewhere and they go into a room and
01:13:45
CIS and Eber are watching movie with I
01:13:48
mean they're they're not they're just
01:13:49
doing the the movie they're in the movie
01:13:51
in the mov and they're doing a cross
01:13:52
country trip to Los Angeles because they
01:13:54
want be in the movies and be with Arnold
01:13:57
yeah and then they're riding a bicycle
01:13:59
across country and then at one point
01:14:02
they happen upon a big a big U edifice
01:14:06
and they just walk in and Cisco and
01:14:09
Ebert the most famous critics at the
01:14:11
time Jean Cisco and rodri were just
01:14:12
sitting in the theater and it's just
01:14:14
like how's the movie like it's pretty
01:14:18
good so far they're watching the movie
01:14:22
lots of action and coll in is in this
01:14:25
dark room watching the exact movie
01:14:27
that's taking place so on the screen is
01:14:30
them us talking to them yeah it's you
01:14:33
talking to them they're like in their
01:14:35
movie seats and then on SC screen us
01:14:37
talking you see them watching the movie
01:14:40
right and it's like like four seconds
01:14:43
behind seconds behind got it yeah that
01:14:45
kind of thing yeah and then eventually
01:14:49
they get kidnapped because they're girly
01:14:51
men right like you go to check in on
01:14:54
them later and they they're
01:14:55
gone because the the the evil villain
01:14:58
has kidnapped he's like remember Sunny
01:15:00
Bono disappears and right uh I can't
01:15:03
remember who who famous girly men of the
01:15:06
day the bad the bad guy had a big button
01:15:08
that said hurt the weather and then we
01:15:10
cut
01:15:11
the look out his window go hey the
01:15:14
weather seems hurt somehow you know yeah
01:15:16
it was uh it was gonna be Dolph lren and
01:15:19
he had like this kind of like Final
01:15:21
Solution villain kind of thing where I
01:15:24
am going to eliminate all the girly men
01:15:27
from the face of the Earth and then he
01:15:30
turned to the camera and say and I'm
01:15:32
going to hurt the
01:15:34
environment oh that's right and the
01:15:37
button that said hurt the environment
01:15:38
that's right yeah because we were
01:15:39
obsessed my I I desperately wanted to do
01:15:42
like Mike Myers was my hero later
01:15:45
because he with Dr Evil created a
01:15:47
character that remember all these 80s
01:15:51
comedies the villain you always had to
01:15:53
like take it seriously for like right
01:15:55
rather than a whether it was Max vono or
01:15:58
in Strange Brew or like there you always
01:16:01
had to have these obligatory villains
01:16:03
and so we were trying to make fun of
01:16:07
that and have the villain be as funny as
01:16:08
the and Mike and then Mike ended up
01:16:11
doing it perfect good for
01:16:14
Mike good for Mike all right I go my
01:16:18
show this has been Robert Smigel one of
01:16:22
I would say he's the greatest sketch
01:16:24
writer uh of his generation you you he's
01:16:27
in the he's in the discussion i' put him
01:16:30
at the top but everyone can have their
01:16:32
opinion Jack candy was the guy that I
01:16:36
different different Lane though I put
01:16:37
him in a different Lane but yeah it's a
01:16:39
different Lane but here's what I'll say
01:16:40
about Jack that was why all the writers
01:16:43
I would say if you pulled at least the
01:16:44
writers of that era yeah they would have
01:16:46
gone with Jack and it's
01:16:47
because someone like me wrote a lot of
01:16:50
I'm very proud of a lot of things I
01:16:52
wrote but I feel like you know there are
01:16:54
ideas that only I could have thought of
01:16:56
but there are other ones that I think
01:16:58
other people could have and where Jack
01:17:01
like nobody else could have thought of
01:17:04
almost any of the sketches Jack Handy
01:17:06
yeah any read any readr you'd be like oh
01:17:09
my God this is Jack Handy within three
01:17:11
lines you're like everyone looks around
01:17:12
exactly he's over there smil like people
01:17:15
act like he was just the act seven guy
01:17:18
like the 5 to1 was huge was the biggest
01:17:21
character on the show for a couple years
01:17:24
like lit the biggest character on the
01:17:26
show was a cat puppet yeah
01:17:30
yeah say look out we Frozen caveman
01:17:34
lawyer yeah would always they would get
01:17:36
no laughs practically but everybody from
01:17:40
Lauren on down was in awe of that
01:17:43
brilliant sketch and so it was always it
01:17:46
always made the show it was never at the
01:17:47
end of the show because we were all
01:17:50
collectively just so proud to put it on
01:17:53
I am a simple unfrozen caveman or
01:17:56
something that was just the perfect use
01:17:59
of
01:18:00
Phil he did that perfect I don't know
01:18:03
what's going on yeah it's almost like
01:18:07
will simple caveman I think just a
01:18:10
simple C I think 60 million imp punitive
01:18:13
damages feels about
01:18:17
right so we all love Jack yes okay
01:18:20
thanks Robert thanks Robert thanks guys
01:18:24
loved it all right talk to you soon
01:18:26
buddy love you
01:18:28
bye-bye hey what's up flies what's up
01:18:31
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01:18:32
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01:18:34
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01:18:44
all right guys it's time that's
01:18:46
flattering it's time for Q&A and uh we
01:18:48
we answer a question at the end of every
01:18:50
show we've got about we get a lot of
01:18:52
emails I have to say but one of the most
01:18:54
requested probably 50 about we've
01:18:57
mentioned this sketch called massive
01:18:58
head massive headon hary so the question
01:19:00
was no the sketch the questions aren't
01:19:03
about what's that I gave blood sorry
01:19:05
great guy syndrome uh really oh good I'm
01:19:08
glad that the co was at least on the
01:19:10
Downs slope when you gave away your
01:19:12
precious fluid I was just on a flight
01:19:14
and this there's no shortage of coughing
01:19:16
and wheezing and this lady and then I go
01:19:20
I don't want C she goes no I just have
01:19:21
the flu I go oh okay good so all right
01:19:24
um sketch with Dana called massive head
01:19:26
Harry and a dog was attacking the makeup
01:19:29
on Dana's head can you tell us about
01:19:31
that or animal stories from SNL sorry
01:19:34
you get one question uh thank you love
01:19:36
the show okay that's for David Hees
01:19:39
massive massive head wound Harry so they
01:19:42
put a prosthesis on my head so it looked
01:19:44
like I had a massive head wound and I
01:19:46
was clueless and innocent character I
01:19:48
walk into this party were you at the
01:19:50
party you were in the party did you have
01:19:51
a line I think it was a Jack Handy
01:19:53
sketch I I thought it was a smigly
01:19:56
really would handy go that Me Maybe I
01:19:58
don't know wow great for us this is
01:20:01
another Google it while we're answering
01:20:02
because we're both probably lying so the
01:20:04
point is just cuz we tend to ramble but
01:20:07
massive head when Harry goes around he
01:20:08
scares everybody his head goes in a
01:20:10
punch ball it's like pretty grotesque
01:20:13
and then he lies down and goes I'm going
01:20:14
to go take a nap this is me so I go on
01:20:16
the couch so we have a dog it's a really
01:20:18
is a lab retriever um anyway so during
01:20:21
the practice show the dog is supposed to
01:20:23
start biting and trying to eat my head
01:20:26
and so it did and it was at a certain
01:20:28
level of energy and whatever for the air
01:20:31
show and killing no dress killed still
01:20:33
killed but on the air show they put so
01:20:35
much more I think it was like almost
01:20:37
like Gerber's baby food meat flavor they
01:20:39
put like 10 times more on the prosthetic
01:20:42
52 SOS so the labador the labad dooodle
01:20:45
goes [ __ ] house and it's just grabbing
01:20:48
and not hurting me but just eating and
01:20:50
wants to take the whole thing off
01:20:52
massive head's head it starts to stretch
01:20:54
out now I have a thought in my head like
01:20:57
okay I don't want it to take the thing
01:21:00
off only because the sketch is killing
01:21:02
and I don't want it to be killing oh
01:21:05
because it went off so I put my hand on
01:21:07
my temple I'm holding the thing on and
01:21:10
it's taking all the strength I can and
01:21:12
funny with the sound off so I'm not
01:21:14
speaking everyone's looking the dog is
01:21:16
doing that and it goes on for like a
01:21:17
minute yeah la Michaels apparently was
01:21:20
looking at a monitor and crying with
01:21:22
laughter so it went went went went and
01:21:24
there's it's hard to top a dog trying to
01:21:27
eat a man's head on live television
01:21:29
that's the for all you comedy writers
01:21:31
out there that's what I got what's your
01:21:32
point of view David well I think I was
01:21:35
in the sketch or I was just standing on
01:21:36
the side watching it and uh did did
01:21:39
great at dresser H so it was funny a guy
01:21:41
massive head W Harry comes into a party
01:21:42
for no explanation has a head wound yeah
01:21:44
and had a little song He's massive
01:21:46
massive head wound Harry and then the
01:21:49
dog does it great at dress dog goes
01:21:51
crazier the dog trainer's freaking out
01:21:53
on air the dog's really freak out Dana
01:21:55
is trying to hold it and I think he said
01:21:57
I think he smells my dog yeah and he
01:21:59
must smell my dog gar with that
01:22:02
character but I remember you had to
01:22:04
stand in for me I had to go somewhere
01:22:05
during rehearsal didn't you have to put
01:22:07
the prosthetic on yeah just for 30
01:22:10
minutes I go put this Al on your head it
01:22:12
took 11 hours to
01:22:14
get I made that part up so thank you
01:22:17
David thank you uh that's a great
01:22:19
question yes
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