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Sarah Silverman | Full Episode | Fly on the Wall with Dana Carvey and David Spade

October 07, 2022 / 01:11:28

This episode features comedians Dana Carvey and David Spade discussing various topics with guest Sarah Silverman, including their experiences in comedy, relationships, and the entertainment industry.

Carvey and Spade open the episode by inviting listeners to submit questions for future episodes. They share humorous anecdotes about physical exams and interactions with fans, showcasing their comedic styles.

Sarah Silverman joins the conversation, discussing her basketball skills and experiences with SNL. She reflects on her early career, the challenges of being a woman in comedy, and her relationships.

The trio talks about the pressures of fame, the role of paparazzi, and the dynamics of their personal lives. Silverman shares insights about her current relationship and the importance of communication in partnerships.

Throughout the episode, they exchange jokes and stories, highlighting their camaraderie and shared history in comedy.

TL;DR

Dana Carvey and David Spade chat with Sarah Silverman about comedy, relationships, and their experiences in the entertainment industry.

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hey guys it's Spade half of me and
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Carvey and just want to let you know at
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the end of this episode after the
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credits we are going to answer some of
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the questions we asked you to ask us so
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if you stick around you're going to hear
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them and if you want to ask us a
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question you go to fly on the wall
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at cadence13.com that's an email address
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people get with the program you can
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email us at fly on the wall at
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cadence13.com ask anything to Dana and
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ask me like really good ones all right
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so get your questions listen to the
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questions and ask your questions now
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here's the show
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hey chill I'll be there in a second I
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can talk to my friend here that's a
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little bird number one it's a Tony Bird
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come on
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ah scare me you can't you can't
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I'm young I'm strong
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come on here's a deal you're a little
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bird you're a little bird Jill I'll be
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there in a second come on oh he fluffed
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what should I do with the food no he
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flew away that was him all right there
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you go that one and how about this scene
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no here's this for Sarah uh okay I went
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to the uh Sarah sometimes does you know
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dirtier stuff she's hysterical by the
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way Sarah Silverman were old friends
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from SNL was when I first met her so
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here's one so I went to the
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to actually get my physical and he goes
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you know at the end it's sort of in the
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air that he's going to go up your behind
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you know I mean like at a yearly
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physical they're going up your butt so
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right I asked the guy to do it when he
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first walks in can we get that out of
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the way and goes no I like to save it
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and I go really I mean save it he goes
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give me something look forward to it
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this guy this guy as soon as that is
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done and I don't like gross humor he
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takes the glove off he starts walking
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away throws in the trash can and then
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Sprints out of the office like as if
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it's some weird what if he goes I just
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want to get this over with so he goes
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let's just do it right now and he
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doesn't I I'm not even putting the glove
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on let's just do this and you're like
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well wait a second wait a second all
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right well these are the worst jokes in
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the world but this one always made me
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last the last thing you want to hear
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during that type of exam look ma no
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hands oh yeah I'm sorry that's just
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because his wieners
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Greg is having gyrations our producer
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Greg Holtzman at Greg holtzman.com
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Heather you laugh at my stuff he'll
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laugh at Dana's well look ma no hands
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I'm sorry so here's mine This is
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actually a true story
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I'm going to start with putting and then
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we'll say here Sarah the he says I have
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to put a finger up here buttocks and I
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said feel free I know it's part of the
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drill so he goes he goes he got one in
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there and he goes I go actually try one
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more and he does two and then I go just
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for fun try to put your whole hand in
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there and he goes okay it's in there and
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I go now put the other one he puts the
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other one I go now clap and he goes I
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can't I go tight right
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that's a great one tight right well when
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I my last exam the guy tries to make
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jokes around that he goes did you hear
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about the guy who had five penises his
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pants fit him like a glove
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anyway drop them
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I know my guy works in bits I go just do
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doctor stuff just do doctor so I don't
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do proctologists we love Sarah because
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uh she's a hilarious comic she I see her
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out and she always has parties on a roof
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we'll talk about that and Sarah
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Silverman is uh has a great voice
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because I do voices I do like her voice
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she has a sort of
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it's all it's almost like it's a
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sneakily seductive uh
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uh Cadence when she does stand up you
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know how she kind of moves her shoulders
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and her arms I want to do jokes I
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remember verse two her and see if how
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close I get him try one oh oh you don't
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have one no when she goes when she comes
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out and there's a song on and she goes
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this is such a good song she goes this
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song is so good I remember I got gang
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raped for this song in an alley yeah and
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I still love the song that's a testament
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to how great that is
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she's canceled and now we're canceled oh
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she oh we have to ask her because some
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guy in a porn was whacking off and when
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he [ __ ] he goes Sarah Silverman she's
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had a lot of stuff about she's got a lot
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of fans so we'll talk about that Sarah
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Silverman has a great sense of humor I
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hung out with her at the 40th at the
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party the 40th anniversary of SNL
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and my running gag that night was just
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checking my phone and saying you're
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trending right now so that was that was
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my runner back then it was a while back
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that's pretty good especially back then
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at the 40th because things were just
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beginning to Trend it was just full of
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stars I have a picture with her from
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that
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um all right let's hear what she has to
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say
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action Sarah
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[Music]
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hello hello
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would you hey I know it wasn't official
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but would you be on our podcast
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sure oh great thank you come on when you
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want to do it now is that her she's a
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black screen where am I how come you
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can't see me are you Baby Jessica in the
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world oh [ __ ] wait let me put it I have
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to put it on uh videos I spent 10
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minutes fluffing my hair around so you'd
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be impressed you know it's so good I
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thank you look it's seriously look at
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Sarah's Hometown why am I so loved I
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don't know it's fun but I I find it
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quite disturbing oh Sarah
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Silverman is on our podcast yeah it's
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not
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video so I'm not going to describe your
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Mansion
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um Sarah we we were just talking about
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just quickly about Ben Simmons and I
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forgot you play ball
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Ben Simmons is a basketball player and
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uh we were saying that I was gonna tell
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Dana that Sarah's a baller and he used
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to play at shanlings oh yes and I had
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played a few times but I think you're
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better than me and that yeah okay don't
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question it just say oh did you I just
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didn't know you please you guys I'm a
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[ __ ] athlete I know so I'm a
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professional cheerleader
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they would throw him up and then he
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would catch him right remember in high
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school I was the uh
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yeah
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so Sarah walk us through uh let's go
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through Dana and I are this is your life
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no I've got a lot of questions no first
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let me answer she played basketball and
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she was good at it and it was with
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Shannon and all these comedians it was
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kind of fun
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yeah I haven't played basketball since
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the pandemic and I am I and now I'm like
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um
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I think I'm should be done because uh in
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general is just not good for you when
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you're older I had switched from I said
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I can only play inside
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because of my news so I did that for a
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long time but then I now I just I don't
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know I feel like I'm gonna really hurt
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myself do your knees know the difference
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yeah because when you play outside like
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on a playground or something it's
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there's it's um you know it's not um
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it's just pavement like oh okay you
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wouldn't understand it's an athletic
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thing but
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so you guys are always part of the cool
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group David you guys are part you're
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cool celebrities both of you I just put
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it together listen Sarah I have a
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question I get two in a row Dana by the
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way me and Dan do not know David is fine
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I love your show and it's so interesting
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and now the pressure's on because I feel
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like oh God I don't but um but I was
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talking to I don't know if either of you
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remember
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um Jonathan Katz the great Jonathan Katz
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yes oh comedian yeah yeah Dr Katz
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professional therapist yeah yeah yeah of
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course 100 yeah I was talking to him
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yesterday and um he was like have you
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heard the fly on the wall podcast with
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Dana Carvey and David Spade and was like
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I'm gonna be on it tomorrow oh geez now
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I'm feeling the pressure what is
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Jonathan hearing that we're not because
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we usually kind of take a nap after this
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and sort of reassess life and
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interesting
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well you know Dana I had some lady in
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front of uh Jersey Mike's yesterday say
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she saw it you know what's funny or she
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heard it but you know what's funny Sarah
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have you ever done this someone goes
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like uh
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hey weren't you on SNL I go thank you
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and she and there was no compliment I
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just get nervous and say thanks
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and then silence I saw I saw you on
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David Letterman and then nothing
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that's the most [ __ ] up I saw you do
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stand up and then silence my uh waiter
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at this place I eat he's German and he
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goes hey there was a there's a picture
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of me of making about the IHOP on
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Holloway no I wish that's where I used
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to go every single day for two years uh
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this is another one and again the waiter
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goes because I was kissing a girl in a
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pool and I don't know something I took a
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picture a couple years ago and he goes
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hey and it was in all these websites
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because she was
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marginally attractive and I'm sickening
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so that's always a story so they go uh
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we gotta get him to a therapist I see
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him he's talking about my friend David
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like that no I like me so I said uh I
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could understand anyway so the joke was
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he came up and he goes hey little pool
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party this weekend and I go and he goes
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a little fun in the sun huh a little uh
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splashing around and I go right and he
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goes I saw pictures of you and I go yeah
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I know I know is this your German accent
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yeah maybe it's not Germany okay
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slightly slightly maybe it's the valley
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so then he goes uh he goes hey and then
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he goes but then they showed you getting
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on the water and you look fat why do you
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want them to have pictures like that I
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go why do I want the paparazzi do
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[ __ ] get out Works he goes you look
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bad and some of the pictures I was like
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well I can't believe it I go do not you
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are from somewhere else because you
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think I picked they take 100 pictures
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and they have a Jeweler's Loop and they
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find the grossest one and go this is the
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one we're going with run with it
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so this is a random fan saying this too
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it's like a friend fan but he's just
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he's very I think he was half being
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funny but he half didn't know that I
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don't sit with the uh editorial at Daily
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Mail and go I think I look better in
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this one they're like you know what
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great if you look better and you like it
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the Daily Mail fills so many pages with
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so much minutiae yeah
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it's crack cocaine you you go you're on
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that thing and man the little pictures
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on the side and that guy's in a bathing
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suit and they're over there it's so
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exciting there's people in there that I
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don't even know and I go why am I and
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they're there every day and I go are
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they paying to be on here because
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there's no reason we should be knowing
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anything it's so I you know I really
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it's not like I'm Britney Spears or
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something it already beats I was like I
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don't know if they're around I never
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seen them pop up unless I want to like
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Google myself like I was you know like
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like Sasha baronco and we were meeting
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for dinner in New York and he's like
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well if we go here will there be
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Paparazzi I go I don't know do you read
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US Weekly
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like how is that a part of your life but
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um yeah it's something scandalous we're
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just getting some noshed
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more photographed right if you're at a
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beach in a bikini or you're on a yacht
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off Italy you know that it got
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telephotos on you right
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I mean I have friends from New Hampshire
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like do you call them and tell them
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where you'll be and like why would I
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call them when I'm walking uphill in
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sweat
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walking my dog looking like 18 zits on
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my I was wearing a hat and sunglasses
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stuff for a while I don't know I was
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allergic to fame and I think at one
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point my wife said I don't think
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anyone's paying attention
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Okay it is true it is true nor should
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they but yeah but there are the dirty
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secret Dana is that there are probably
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50 percent of that is called in now
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it's places that you never see Paparazzi
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there's a couple places you kind of know
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and then it's like they're coming out of
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the Rite Aid and uh you know Topanga and
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it's like we got them and I'm like let's
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see how to call someone have them drive
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out there get them and then either they
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split the money if they're a bigger star
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but if they're not a big star they just
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hope they sell it somewhere they just
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hope they get it out there well I
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remember one time I picked my mom up
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years ago at the airport she was coming
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to visit and
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you know I was just and you know at the
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airport you just get like sloppy thirds
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or what like there's there for someone
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big and then they just see and then the
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airlines you know like
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so I pick up my mom and there's and
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there's like TMZ or Paparazzi just
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walking the whole way to the car and I'm
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just you know you know you're it's like
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stuff with your mom when you're a
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daughter it's there's so much you know
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and she's just loving it and talking to
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them and stopping and talking to them
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and I'm like Mom let's you know and if I
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you know you can't like be upset in
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front of yourself let's just get in the
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car you know you know and she's driving
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me insane for because she loves it so
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much
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and we get in the car and she goes well
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I don't know why you're in such a rush I
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mean they're just doing their job I said
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Mom
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the greatest thing that could happen to
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them is that we but we get into a car
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accident and die right now and they have
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the last pictures of you know like that
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yeah that's true it's not beautiful like
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it's yeah that's so cute yeah if it's
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outrageous you know I don't care but
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it's just like Dana one time I walk in a
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restaurant and there's all these like
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super famous people and it's you know
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obviously they told me later women sell
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better you know because they get in all
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the magazines and what they're wearing a
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lot so I walk in and I go nothing guys
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and then he does it from the waist he he
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has his camera and just from his waist
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goes
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yes
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that's two flashes and I go you don't
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even lift it up to your eye and look
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through it he goes now I know what I'm
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doing I go
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well I better see that somewhere oh
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we're sad little celebrities I remember
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Jimmy Kimmel um he he said
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he's actually overheard like his show
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had just started and but he was
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he was talk so it just started and he
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got like Paparazzi and then he walked
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Pat around the corner and walked past
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the same guy that took his picture and
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he was on the phone and he overheard him
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go like man that's really slow day
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it's so it's such a they always check
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you to remind you what level you are in
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the business so sickening do your
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feelings get hurt easily in Show
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Business Sarah you feel you're tougher
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than you should be I think so really
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anymore I still you know like I get
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fired from things or unhired from things
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and I I don't think it's you personally
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I get I got hired the the this writer
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director wrote this series that's coming
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out on a streaming platform and nights
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in general right her you know he emailed
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me said will you play this role it's a
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rabbi and it's like a drama you know and
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I was like yeah that's cool you know
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it's like this you know there's like
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scenes under a water and it's it's like
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this futuristic whatever nice and it has
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a whole she's in other episodes but then
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she has like one whole episode and I was
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like great and I'm you know I have the
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script and I'm there's dates and
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everything and then he emails me back
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and he said Sarah I'm
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so horrified the
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something plus people
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um
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said no and I I didn't know that was
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even a thing like I thought I could hire
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anyone I wanted but they said no then I
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go
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don't worry you know for in a way it
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like feels like relief like you know
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when people cancel plans and you're like
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ah you know like oh yeah it's relief
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because I you know of course I stress
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about it because I want to do a good job
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but I mean part of me is like
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I I don't understand why I'm a part of
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me does understand why so I just you
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know what do you like so do you get when
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you get hired for corporate gigs or
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anything do you have to tell them ahead
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of time does does your do they know what
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they're getting sometimes or do you
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adapt to a situation because with me
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sometimes they oh yeah they know what
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they're getting right so they go they
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think they know what they want yeah yeah
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I mean there's definitely a time where I
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would have my manager like when I did
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the Ted Talk that they then wouldn't
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post
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um what that's right manager called back
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three different times and say she just
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wants to make sure you because she loves
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TED talks and she you know I always
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watch them with my mom and
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she just wants to make sure you know
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what she is and what she does and I
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really in Earnest like planned the whole
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18 minutes I was so excited and it did
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well and the crowd loved it but
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yeah they wouldn't post it for many
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years and you can I ask why I mean they
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why why did they not want to post it I
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don't know but it was a whole long drama
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where the the head of the TED Talks Ted
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surrender who had called and like
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reassured me we want you it's about all
00:17:55
different voices oh my gosh like that
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was awful
00:18:01
and I was just like covering their ass
00:18:05
yeah it was so shitty he's apologized
00:18:08
many times since over the years because
00:18:10
uh
00:18:11
you know I but I you know you when you
00:18:14
mess with the comedian it's hard because
00:18:16
then I was like talked about it on like
00:18:19
Real Time with Bill Martin this was like
00:18:20
yeah
00:18:21
you know it like it murdered him and and
00:18:25
um
00:18:25
he called my managers like could we have
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a truce you know
00:18:29
sure of course yeah you know I
00:18:32
I did it in such Earnest and then like
00:18:35
yeah I mean I yeah sometimes someone
00:18:37
will tell you out of corporate data CEO
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or something oh yeah you go Blue Man Go
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kid you know say [ __ ] whatever you want
00:18:45
you're like well okay I don't even use
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[ __ ] that much but I dropped a few and
00:18:48
then the booker is kind of like not good
00:18:51
man not good you know I go but the CEO
00:18:53
told me to do it
00:18:54
they're like that guy didn't even work
00:18:56
there I've had people come backstage and
00:18:58
go just [ __ ] around and I go what do you
00:18:59
do here he goes oh I'm friends with the
00:19:01
guy that booked you I'm like oh well I
00:19:03
don't know if I'm going to be going by
00:19:04
you because you're leaving right after
00:19:06
and then I have to deal with they don't
00:19:07
want to pay you I mean yeah I don't want
00:19:09
to disrespect anyone like those
00:19:10
corporate gigs are like you know they
00:19:13
suck and I appreciate them so much
00:19:16
because they're just like it's like how
00:19:19
famous people used to do commercials in
00:19:21
Japan like it's just this hidden thing
00:19:23
where you make money you know you make
00:19:26
more than a regular gig like three times
00:19:28
you could do is like a c plus then you
00:19:31
walk out of there so happy yeah and they
00:19:33
go oh we want you to be crazy and then
00:19:35
they're like you know that when you talk
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about coming in God's mouth or something
00:19:39
I know you know a bit on that too I got
00:19:42
one of those coming
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[Music]
00:19:50
okay go ahead ask her something good
00:19:53
Dana
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um
00:19:56
I look at your stuff today I saw you on
00:20:00
Conan in 93
00:20:02
. oh my God one thing that hit me is
00:20:05
like you're like this
00:20:07
you were so cute and so sweet and
00:20:10
innocent it was like it really was
00:20:12
Charming but you were like 21 or two you
00:20:16
started stand up at 17. So within four
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years you're on television that's pretty
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good
00:20:22
how did you like what how did how did
00:20:25
you get that good that fast a lot of
00:20:27
people takes 10 years were you
00:20:29
headlining clubs when you went on Conan
00:20:30
or no no you they just saw you at the
00:20:34
Improv and set spots around town okay
00:20:38
but I yeah I got you know I'm from New
00:20:41
Hampshire so but like I went to this
00:20:43
High School where they had assemblies
00:20:45
and they'd let me do like three minutes
00:20:47
you know at assemblies and stuff or like
00:20:50
my math teacher would let me tell like
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one joke at the beginning of class and
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then I had to be quiet and that was our
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deal but
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um and then I but when I moved to New
00:21:02
York I I went to NYU and I just went for
00:21:05
one year because I
00:21:06
I've always been a very good student
00:21:09
I've never not done my homework you know
00:21:11
but then I was working at a comedy club
00:21:13
passing out flyers from like 4 P.M to uh
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2 A.M every day and then going to
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classes and I was sleeping through my
00:21:23
classes and it I'm not like that student
00:21:25
like I was like pinching myself trying
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to stay awake I couldn't keep my eyes
00:21:29
open and I so I my dad said if you
00:21:33
quit college I'll pay your like rent and
00:21:37
utilities like 300 450 for the next
00:21:42
three years like it's your sophomore
00:21:43
junior senior year and then you're on
00:21:45
your own
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so it was a great deal because I did
00:21:50
steal classes because I had all these
00:21:51
like numbnuts friends that were like
00:21:53
rich and going to NYU and didn't even
00:21:56
want to go to classes you know so but um
00:21:59
then I could just really focus on stand
00:22:01
up and then by the time I would have
00:22:03
been us would have graduated I was
00:22:05
working with you on Saturday Night Live
00:22:07
but you know I mean I was only there one
00:22:09
year and then I got fired and then for a
00:22:10
while I didn't know if I was in show
00:22:12
business anymore
00:22:13
were you kind of like Woody Allen Woody
00:22:16
Allen Steven Wright sort of influenced
00:22:18
in the early days or who was who were
00:22:20
you kind of looking up to as a stand-up
00:22:22
when you started I mean Steve Martin was
00:22:25
my or Steve Martin well I don't you know
00:22:27
like I yeah it's funny because in my the
00:22:30
house I grew up in my room was like the
00:22:34
attic and uh on the ceiling and pencil I
00:22:37
wrote I love Steve Martin with the heart
00:22:39
around it and uh it always was there and
00:22:42
now then my mom died and my we my sister
00:22:45
sold the house
00:22:47
and they the Realtors uh came to one of
00:22:50
my shows in Boston and brought me a
00:22:52
picture they redid the whole house but
00:22:55
they saved that one square ceiling so
00:22:58
it's still there wow he was a big one
00:23:00
for me too I knew all the albums it was
00:23:03
the first thing I was memorizing oh my
00:23:05
God I I just love them so much and but I
00:23:10
bet who I was I imitated so all the
00:23:13
people influenced around me at the
00:23:15
beginning before dice you remind me of
00:23:17
dice when I see my early stuff like they
00:23:21
talked like this today I'm just really
00:23:23
earliest
00:23:24
and you know the great one-liners
00:23:28
great one-liners though which I can't
00:23:30
write so when someone writes a great
00:23:32
one-liner you know like Woody Allen or
00:23:35
Steven Wright those two and you could
00:23:37
yeah that skill set so yeah my mom had a
00:23:39
Woody Allen double album that where he's
00:23:42
at like a nightclub you know it's just
00:23:43
like this watch is very special to me my
00:23:46
uncle on his deathbed sold me this one
00:23:50
yeah it's all that misdirection yeah
00:23:53
sure you know oh so they saw you have
00:23:56
you done any gigs like when I was doing
00:23:58
stand-up I had only been I only got to
00:24:00
New York once at my friend hired me to
00:24:03
open for her company at something open
00:24:06
for Ray Charles at their it was a
00:24:07
corporate gig I actually I got 1500
00:24:10
bucks I bought miserably but I had never
00:24:12
even been to New York and then I went
00:24:14
back and then by the time I got SNL I'd
00:24:16
really maybe only been there twice were
00:24:19
you ever going out west and doing gigs
00:24:21
or everything's pretty much back east in
00:24:23
stand up right
00:24:24
no I had done
00:24:26
um no I had done two things in Los
00:24:29
Angeles I did
00:24:31
comic strip live and evening Club so
00:24:34
they wanted that tape you know
00:24:37
yeah you saw that and it was it Marcy or
00:24:39
who brought you in to see Lauren or did
00:24:42
they just call you
00:24:43
um Marcy Klein or Marcy Klein I'm but I
00:24:48
met with Lauren and Jim Downey in uh in
00:24:52
L.A I've met with Lauren in LA because
00:24:54
he was at Paramount and
00:24:57
and uh I remember I just read like
00:25:00
Saturday night so I just like I went
00:25:03
into the meeting with Lauren and just
00:25:04
asked him a million questions you know
00:25:06
and I feel like that was like a good
00:25:09
move because he's a rock Contour you
00:25:11
know yeah sure and um oh you read the
00:25:14
book Chevy was always like that you know
00:25:17
I I remember I asked to keep I go like
00:25:19
why are you you're a performer like why
00:25:21
didn't you don't like you oh but um
00:25:25
you know like so but and then they
00:25:28
invited me to the Coneheads Premiere
00:25:31
nice and that's when they found out I
00:25:34
got I know hired as a writer oh I was
00:25:37
there I was there and you know there
00:25:40
weren't phones or anything so I was like
00:25:41
I just went to the bathroom and sat in a
00:25:43
stall and was like oh I just wouldn't
00:25:45
call my mom you know
00:25:47
yeah and you uh got so they told you at
00:25:50
the corners Premiere and then you didn't
00:25:51
know what to do with that you're like I
00:25:52
can't focus on this stupid movie
00:25:57
wow so what did you so your first week
00:25:59
there I mean who did you hook up with I
00:26:01
mean did you have friends right away or
00:26:03
someone you knew from stand up or were
00:26:05
you like alone with David
00:26:07
and Jay Moore
00:26:09
too and stand up
00:26:12
I was hired too who I loved but I know
00:26:14
him well and we you know I got to know
00:26:17
him there so you came in with three
00:26:19
other newbies right so four of you that
00:26:21
were coming in yeah but I was the first
00:26:24
day Lauren like matched me up with these
00:26:26
three writers who were also my age and
00:26:30
new Dave Mandel yeah Lou Morton
00:26:34
Steve luckner who's become like a
00:26:37
right-wing he found his little niche and
00:26:40
uh you know look you're right your
00:26:43
business doesn't give you what you feel
00:26:45
you have earned because you went to the
00:26:47
Harper Lampoon it can make you bitter
00:26:49
and then you go oh right she finds me
00:26:52
real funny but
00:26:54
um you know where the love is I'm
00:26:57
fascinated how do you spell that Steve
00:26:58
oh I know but anyway they he said no you
00:27:02
all hanging out you're all you're all 22
00:27:04
and you know and they're all from
00:27:05
Harvard
00:27:06
and we spent the whole day together we
00:27:09
went to like a cat the cafeteria which I
00:27:11
don't think I ever went to again and and
00:27:13
at the end of the whole day of hanging
00:27:15
out I remember one of the most like so
00:27:18
you're what are you like a typist
00:27:21
they thought I was one of the typists
00:27:23
and I was just like no I'm a writer like
00:27:25
you you [ __ ] [ __ ]
00:27:27
wow what
00:27:30
they don't realize there was like a
00:27:32
madman room where there was four girls
00:27:34
typing the sketches for you yeah I mean
00:27:36
computers existed but not there it was
00:27:40
like we you rode in longhand on yeah and
00:27:43
it looked crazy and I can't believe
00:27:45
anyone can follow it and then these like
00:27:46
genius typists in a real typist Claire
00:27:49
like an army yeah they go through Ellie
00:27:53
Claire uh I remember writing on those uh
00:27:55
legal pads because you just had like a
00:27:57
wooden desk and a legal pad and they're
00:27:58
like okay see it read through and you go
00:28:00
what am I doing here I don't even know
00:28:02
how to write a sketch I don't know
00:28:04
anything and you gotta figure as you go
00:28:05
I guess Dana was gone when you got there
00:28:07
yeah he had just left and I remember you
00:28:10
I saw you you came back
00:28:12
one day and you came down like an
00:28:15
elevator I had never seen before and got
00:28:17
off the Vietnam I saw you walk with a
00:28:19
few people and I was like really
00:28:22
I can't secret elevator he came back for
00:28:24
a victory I was I still no one tells you
00:28:26
your way around no one tells you how
00:28:28
things work no like I remember I got my
00:28:31
first
00:28:32
sketch that I had written by myself on
00:28:34
and I was so excited John Malkovich was
00:28:36
the host
00:28:37
and it went great in dress rehearsal and
00:28:40
then this was my first time like having
00:28:43
something so then we're all sitting like
00:28:45
on the floor in Lauren's office after
00:28:47
dress
00:28:48
and I remember I was on the floor and
00:28:51
Malkovich was sitting in a chair like
00:28:53
next to me high up and he looks down he
00:28:55
goes I'm so sorry I I really messed up a
00:28:58
line and dress and I go don't worry
00:28:59
about it you'll you'll get it on the air
00:29:01
it'll be great and Mike Myers goes it's
00:29:04
got look it's on the left side about the
00:29:07
line it's like shut up it's cut you know
00:29:10
I have a show idea like I I just no one
00:29:12
tells you you just you're thrown in you
00:29:15
know like right you walk in after dress
00:29:17
and they'd pick the for the audience
00:29:19
they picked the sketches while you sweat
00:29:21
it out outside the door and then they
00:29:23
finally open and go you can go in and
00:29:25
then you walk in and you immediately
00:29:27
look at the wall and like three sketches
00:29:29
are moved out like they got caught maybe
00:29:31
an updated piece I know what I'm saying
00:29:33
that's how I learned that right so you
00:29:35
sit down and then and then you go oh
00:29:37
look behind you Sarah it's cut no one
00:29:39
ever goes here's how it works you walk
00:29:41
in you look and then you still try to
00:29:44
put on a brave face even though you're
00:29:45
not gonna be in the show
00:29:46
and so you just sit on the floor while
00:29:48
they do a whole meeting and all you can
00:29:50
think of is I'm not even in this one you
00:29:53
know I
00:29:54
I was like I
00:29:55
enjoy being
00:29:58
oh I was not coming back so I'm ready
00:30:01
for the next season I'm thinking like
00:30:02
this is gonna be my idea
00:30:07
you know what I never
00:30:09
I'm getting fired like even still and I
00:30:12
still do you know I do all the time you
00:30:14
know I get tired a lot but I still get
00:30:16
fired from this you know and uh like
00:30:18
before anything that happens but yeah I
00:30:20
was I was
00:30:22
yeah I had never occurred to me you know
00:30:25
you're not a big compromiser it doesn't
00:30:26
seem so you do your act and I've seen
00:30:28
you recently even go on and I always
00:30:31
just like to sit back and watch and see
00:30:33
what you're coming up with
00:30:35
um and it's always fun to see that
00:30:37
you're still you still try you still
00:30:39
work hard I do the same thing when I do
00:30:41
stand up I still like it I still try
00:30:42
it's fine let me get it back up there
00:30:44
and I like when you crawl on the piano I
00:30:46
like when you uh you just have your own
00:30:48
unique thing and then your jokes are
00:30:51
always so clever I go goddamn but at
00:30:53
least it's not like oh this is this type
00:30:58
of comedian that everyone's doing you're
00:31:00
always got your angle and that's why
00:31:02
when people might fire you it's it's in
00:31:05
a weird way a compliment maybe one
00:31:07
percent a comma but um that they go this
00:31:11
she's just thinking out of the box which
00:31:13
is what you want from someone but they
00:31:15
don't really handle it well they go no
00:31:16
no we want the regular stuff you come
00:31:18
off so confident Sarah I just wonder if
00:31:21
do you have situations coming up or in
00:31:23
stand up sometimes like me I just go
00:31:25
mayday mayday I must kill desperate eyes
00:31:28
you know not gonna do it you know but
00:31:31
you always seem you know what I mean
00:31:33
just like well that's better but you
00:31:35
seem Serene and confident it's very
00:31:37
pleasant to watch and I think part of
00:31:39
the reason your specials were so
00:31:42
well received is because that you're not
00:31:45
pushing ever you're letting the audience
00:31:47
come to you I mean is that intentional
00:31:49
it's just your nature or because you do
00:31:51
seem so calm and confident
00:31:53
doing I don't really think about I don't
00:31:56
feel that way you know but I definitely
00:31:58
have learned
00:32:00
from so many people like when you said
00:32:02
that it makes me think of I remember
00:32:04
seeing Chris Rock at the comic strip
00:32:09
years ago and it was before he was who
00:32:13
he is now like pacing and louder and
00:32:15
like you know he hadn't everyone changes
00:32:18
and grows and you know but he was quiet
00:32:21
on stage and he'd go on and like the
00:32:24
comic strip was like it's like a zoo
00:32:26
like people are the audiences are crazy
00:32:28
you know yeah and he he would just
00:32:33
um just start and and not be loud to get
00:32:38
the audience to hear him so it was like
00:32:41
there was no desperation and if they if
00:32:45
the audience missed the first two or
00:32:46
three jokes that's their problem and so
00:32:48
they all got quiet and leaned in and I
00:32:51
go I noticed it you know I was like
00:32:53
oh wow he's so much more powerful being
00:32:56
quiet than going like you know I would
00:32:58
be like hey everyone
00:32:59
um um dogs are funny
00:33:03
and that's like what a teacher would do
00:33:05
like it and it's it's it you can it's
00:33:08
sweaty like there's you an audience can
00:33:11
they don't no they couldn't probably
00:33:13
articulate this but like an audience can
00:33:16
smell desperation you know right it
00:33:19
doesn't help you to like you've got to
00:33:21
get yourself in a place where you're
00:33:22
like all right enough for everyone but
00:33:24
uh the last thing I always say right
00:33:27
before I got if I remember to remember
00:33:30
it is have fun and I remember telling
00:33:32
John lovitzack he credits me with
00:33:34
coaching him but I only gave him a
00:33:35
couple tips but it's very sweet about
00:33:36
him I said John remember you got to have
00:33:38
fun right before you go out thank you
00:33:40
for saying that it saved me so much time
00:33:43
you know and the other thing was there's
00:33:45
a huge difference to remember that
00:33:47
massive you can forget in a second and
00:33:49
then you're five minutes in and you
00:33:51
realize I'm not having fun right now
00:33:52
what what happen you know because you
00:33:55
got it they pick it up but
00:33:57
um John also they're honest they also
00:34:00
like
00:34:01
appreciate that like I I've got I feel
00:34:05
like there have been a few times where
00:34:07
I'm like for some reason or whatever's
00:34:08
going on in my life and I'm not a big
00:34:10
crier I was like sobbing that day and
00:34:13
thinking like and then like thinking
00:34:15
about how of a spot that night just
00:34:16
being like I don't feel funny you know
00:34:19
like nothing's funny and those are all
00:34:22
these nights I have good do you you know
00:34:24
what I mean like you're always surprised
00:34:25
that you have a good set that night
00:34:27
because there's something like cathartic
00:34:29
comes out or I don't know it's like when
00:34:31
you're sick and you got to do a set and
00:34:34
then you have a great set because you go
00:34:35
I just got to do the set I don't have to
00:34:37
kill or not kill there's no pressure I'm
00:34:39
just lucky I'm here I have bronchitis
00:34:41
you know so yes but oh Sarah I got a
00:34:44
question when you go up sometimes Dana
00:34:46
she brings a.m that might be an issue
00:34:48
for you too later what did I do hmm you
00:34:51
did interrupt Dana I did but I thought
00:34:54
he was finished with his where we like
00:34:56
to interrupt each other we feel it's a
00:34:58
good good energy
00:35:00
David okay David go ahead my question is
00:35:03
David Spade because he just made me
00:35:04
think of this but we we do it all the
00:35:06
time
00:35:07
um you have sometimes a notebook when
00:35:09
you go up or a pad you know and and do
00:35:13
you think sometimes it puts less
00:35:16
pressure on jokes because I sometimes
00:35:18
rarely but because I want to read it I
00:35:21
want to get it right like I'll just go
00:35:22
hey I'm going to do this and it it's
00:35:24
almost funnier to them
00:35:26
that I have no belief in it sort of and
00:35:29
then later I do without it it doesn't
00:35:30
work as well
00:35:37
brain damage from
00:35:40
uh so much like marijuana use or I don't
00:35:43
know like I feel like I'm getting like
00:35:45
early I'm so terrified of getting
00:35:47
dementia but I so I you know and I want
00:35:50
to just be able to be loose but I I
00:35:54
can't be loose if I'm like reaching for
00:35:56
like you know what I mean at a certain
00:35:57
point when you're on the road you
00:35:59
remember everything but but I do concede
00:36:02
that having a notebook
00:36:06
gets you a lot of
00:36:09
um
00:36:10
because they feel like you're working on
00:36:12
stuff that it has if they have a it's
00:36:16
the jokes have a feeling of immediacy
00:36:18
that give them a lot more credit for the
00:36:20
audience
00:36:22
when it's something like oh yeah I'm
00:36:24
looking at my notebook but I do know
00:36:25
this works you know yeah so it sometimes
00:36:29
I don't know but like you know but when
00:36:31
but when you're trying new things they
00:36:33
always give you like 10 times more
00:36:35
leeway you know well I think wasn't it
00:36:38
called the alt comedy you know in Largo
00:36:41
where you would comment on your at
00:36:43
comment you know be very open you know
00:36:45
the first time I played in the first
00:36:47
couple times I felt very uncomfortable
00:36:48
because I was like a road comic from the
00:36:50
80s and then then I finally I just had
00:36:54
Nick Kroll interview me or anything
00:36:55
where I'd be tipped off just doing bits
00:36:59
and so I think that you're kind of one
00:37:01
of the you know the the leaders of that
00:37:04
movement in a way that authenticity or
00:37:06
at least that's a Vibe I get you know
00:37:08
the audience feels like you're being
00:37:10
very very real with them and not just
00:37:12
doing bits well I always think like it's
00:37:14
funny when either of you guys are like
00:37:16
nervous at Largo because like you kill
00:37:19
that Largo they love comedy they're like
00:37:21
the great thing about the audience there
00:37:23
is they're they're just huge comedy fans
00:37:26
they just want to like drink you up
00:37:28
however you want to serve it you know
00:37:30
but it's like just because like what you
00:37:32
do works on the road doesn't mean it
00:37:34
won't kill at Largo like it has to be
00:37:36
some experimental like anti-comedy thing
00:37:39
or it not at all like you know sometimes
00:37:42
sometimes your heroes are in the wings
00:37:44
like Martin Short is there or Bill Hader
00:37:46
is going to watch me do stand up people
00:37:48
I really admire and they kind of see how
00:37:51
they know how the rabbit gets out of the
00:37:52
Hat because you're sort of working so I
00:37:54
feel like in that situation it's better
00:37:56
to have loose notes here's what happened
00:37:58
to me today and go with it but um I like
00:38:01
that style so that's what I do now but
00:38:04
not at a corporate date
00:38:08
[Music]
00:38:10
Flanagan's coming over at 12 30. that's
00:38:13
the guy from Largo he runs Largo yeah
00:38:16
flanny I heard you guys talking about
00:38:17
him yeah
00:38:19
he's he's as good as they come on SNL
00:38:22
would you change anything when you were
00:38:25
there because you only did a year you
00:38:26
didn't have a prep because you remember
00:38:27
I think I thought I was coming back too
00:38:29
uh was there a thing you could have done
00:38:33
while you were there or is it just the
00:38:34
way it was going to be I mean I
00:38:36
yeah I think it's just the way it was
00:38:38
going to be I did the best I could for
00:38:39
my age and my experience you know like I
00:38:42
know you're so young very young did you
00:38:45
do any update features because it seems
00:38:46
like if you're coming in there and
00:38:48
you're not acclimating because that's
00:38:50
like stand up in a way I did one update
00:38:55
and but it was an update that like I had
00:38:58
to submit and submit like first it was
00:39:01
in dress and then it got cut and then
00:39:03
like you know people said like you can
00:39:06
resubmit it or whatever and then I
00:39:07
remember Rob Schneider going like I
00:39:09
can't believe you're shoving that update
00:39:10
because she's on our boots again and I
00:39:12
was like my heart just like went in my
00:39:15
stomach you know like what are you doing
00:39:17
they don't want that come on gotta be
00:39:20
original it's got a stink on it it's
00:39:22
true and I wasn't I was a kid and I felt
00:39:26
like I was working with grown-ups and
00:39:28
then I felt like these grown-ups can be
00:39:31
still me like I didn't know grown-ups
00:39:35
were that way you know because I had
00:39:36
only been known grown-ups to be like
00:39:38
friends parents
00:39:40
like like um colleagues you know if I
00:39:45
got on that show at age 22 I would I
00:39:47
never would have lasted I I would not
00:39:49
have had the confidence or the
00:39:51
experience to do it at that age you know
00:39:54
Eddie Murphy did it he was amazing at
00:39:56
19. that's still like a shooting star
00:39:58
there's never been anyone that confident
00:40:00
at 19. but yeah but for you I think it
00:40:03
was just your age because I think you
00:40:06
I think you should go back to that show
00:40:07
I'm so Earnest and I remember I wrote
00:40:09
this sketch that like had some like
00:40:13
like um said something like you know
00:40:16
you're like I can't remember what it was
00:40:17
but it was like had like
00:40:20
um it was about like racism or something
00:40:23
I was trying to like earnestly like use
00:40:25
comedy to say something and it was just
00:40:27
not and then and I remember at one point
00:40:31
I had Farley said like or something like
00:40:34
that like Rio H and he just went at the
00:40:37
table where he just went
00:40:39
Doh no was it a door do you think he
00:40:43
took a dive or did he do it on purpose
00:40:46
so
00:40:52
whatever but I I think I my best there
00:40:56
was um like on punch-up nights because I
00:40:59
could I contributed well and and like
00:41:01
pawn shops and I was so in love with Jim
00:41:04
Downey it's like
00:41:06
heartbreakingly in love with him but you
00:41:08
know he was like a you know and does he
00:41:11
know about this or is he hearing this
00:41:12
from this oh no I'm sure
00:41:15
I'm sure I came on very strong in my own
00:41:18
way but I was like he was like a
00:41:20
grown-up you know and but I remember
00:41:23
writing a sketch and saying like can you
00:41:25
help me with it and he said yeah
00:41:27
and I think it was when Martin Lawrence
00:41:30
was hosting
00:41:32
because his friend wrote there and was
00:41:35
like came
00:41:37
um Bowman or I don't know I can't
00:41:39
remember John Martin's friends maybe no
00:41:42
one of Jim Downey's friends so then they
00:41:45
were hanging out in his office and he
00:41:46
said just wait outside my office until
00:41:48
I'm done here and I fell asleep and then
00:41:51
it I woke up and it was the morning
00:41:54
and he was just coming out and I go are
00:41:57
you ready for me and he's like
00:41:59
For What and I go I gave you my skit
00:42:02
script script and he's like I don't I
00:42:04
don't know I don't have it
00:42:07
down but I mean you know I love him
00:42:10
though I mean of course I still love him
00:42:12
it's like a teacher it's like you being
00:42:14
like a college girl and that's your
00:42:15
professor right yeah yeah Jim is
00:42:19
definitely one of the smartest people
00:42:20
I've ever met I've met a lot I love them
00:42:23
so much
00:42:25
but it was a different time for sure
00:42:28
when you say David a different time a
00:42:31
thousand percent I remember didn't you
00:42:33
stab Franken for some reason
00:42:35
yeah I did accidentally
00:42:38
stabbed out Frankie
00:42:41
okay so for some reason at
00:42:46
um table at um pawn shop and you know
00:42:48
they had this really sharp pencils and a
00:42:50
big thing yeah yeah you know and I was
00:42:52
like leaning back and like I had my
00:42:54
pencils all sharp and he had like a
00:42:56
really big like fro you know Jewish hair
00:43:01
and um I remember just like my brain was
00:43:04
drifting and I just thought like oh I
00:43:07
could like stab this pencil through his
00:43:09
hair
00:43:10
but what people saw was I just turned
00:43:12
and stabbed them and I hit his Temple
00:43:15
and it looked insane not him in the
00:43:19
temple and I remember him just going
00:43:21
like
00:43:24
sorry that's what he said why
00:43:28
why
00:43:30
and I couldn't answer because I was
00:43:33
laughing so hard and tears were pouring
00:43:36
down my face and I looked like a crazy
00:43:38
person that just stabbed out Frank and
00:43:39
then laughed
00:43:42
oh man like put into words like oh in my
00:43:45
head it would go through your hair you
00:43:47
know there's no I'm not crazy way to
00:43:50
explain that I wish I was overlapped
00:43:53
with you for a year because yeah we
00:43:55
could I would have had you on Church
00:43:57
chat we would have had you in Wayne's
00:43:59
World we would have had you a Hans and
00:44:00
Franz you think that now but it feels
00:44:04
like such your ways because you're such
00:44:05
a smart writer that it just wasn't the
00:44:08
time for you to hatch all these things
00:44:09
because later in your life I think your
00:44:11
stand-up is also known for being very
00:44:12
personal and you say so many things
00:44:15
about your life and anything you're
00:44:16
thinking you pretty much say it seems so
00:44:19
or a lot of it that's something you need
00:44:21
to remember like I wasn't me now then no
00:44:23
I'm saying it's kind of
00:44:30
SNL now like you're saying about racism
00:44:31
stuff SNL now does do a lot of
00:44:34
personalized things and they do do a lot
00:44:36
of
00:44:37
political things or what people are
00:44:38
thinking or people take a stand on stuff
00:44:40
but back then like you're saying it was
00:44:42
a different time of course on every
00:44:43
front it was sort of different you know
00:44:46
but I'm so exhausted with like things
00:44:48
that have something to say which I do
00:44:49
like I love being just aggressively dumb
00:44:53
and silly right more than anything I
00:44:55
told someone I was like my comedy is not
00:44:58
important and in this day and age it
00:45:00
feels like it's got to be important and
00:45:01
then you go you know I'm just trying to
00:45:03
get it it's important because your
00:45:05
comedy is important because it's it's
00:45:08
not that it's it's not the lowest common
00:45:11
scenario it's genuinely both of you so
00:45:13
belly laugh funny and everyone can enjoy
00:45:16
it like it doesn't divide anyone which
00:45:19
is massively important
00:45:22
um I I yeah I mean you I I appreciate it
00:45:25
more and more all the time because if
00:45:26
life beats the [ __ ] out of you and you
00:45:28
have people come up to you and maybe if
00:45:30
you're 35 or something they say I really
00:45:32
needed that tonight but now it resonates
00:45:34
with me so if you can get someone to
00:45:36
belly laugh because you can't worry and
00:45:39
Billy laugh at the same time I mean it's
00:45:41
brain brain candy like watching a great
00:45:43
show or watching the movie marry me
00:45:45
which my wife and I loved you in that
00:45:48
movie well you know what's funny about
00:45:49
that it's so good that they held it for
00:45:51
so long because by the time it came out
00:45:53
you know even like cynical [ __ ] like us
00:45:56
are like yeah I just want to feel good
00:45:58
for an hour like really ready to watch
00:46:01
that movie yes because of the pandemic
00:46:04
in Ukraine or whatever it was just like
00:46:05
and then you were just the perfect
00:46:07
sidekick in the movie like didn't every
00:46:10
line just land perfectly but anyway
00:46:12
um
00:46:13
you want to talk therapy for a little
00:46:15
bit yeah only fans I'll give you I'll
00:46:19
give you top picks I used to wet the bed
00:46:21
too for your book you did yeah yeah I
00:46:24
was a champ
00:46:25
for how when did you stop uh you know
00:46:29
probably
00:46:30
somewhere around 12 to 14 I think
00:46:35
um the story I remember the most is
00:46:37
there were five kids two parents and
00:46:39
we're in a Cadillac going driving
00:46:41
through Montana old-fashioned Cadillac
00:46:43
and we couldn't find a hotel so we had
00:46:45
to sleep in the car that night it was a
00:46:47
three-seater of 1958 Cadillac so I got
00:46:50
the spot where the transmission goes you
00:46:52
know behind the seat the hump I'm in a
00:46:54
sleeping bag in the hump and then the
00:46:56
next thing I know waking up is I hear my
00:46:58
brother and my mom looking down at me
00:47:00
and talking about this giant wet spot on
00:47:03
the sleeping bag so like yeah I guess
00:47:05
he's well should we wake him up I don't
00:47:06
know I went to bed I'd heard that and
00:47:09
there there was just no dignified way to
00:47:12
get out of that wet bag you unzip it you
00:47:16
stand up okay you gotta own it but and
00:47:19
you know I I never felt that bad about
00:47:21
it though because I just thought I was
00:47:23
just a heavy sleeper I didn't feel shame
00:47:26
like sleepovers were terrifying I just
00:47:28
like pinched myself awake all night you
00:47:31
know like and I yeah friends that were
00:47:35
twins Lori and Amy Martin they were my
00:47:37
best friends and they knew I was a bed
00:47:39
worker so you know and but I would
00:47:41
really try and like their mom would wake
00:47:43
me up before she went to bed and like
00:47:45
take me to Pizza but so one night I
00:47:47
remember waking up in Amy's room on my
00:47:49
sleeping bag and I had wet and my heart
00:47:52
was pounding I didn't know what to do so
00:47:54
I flipped it yeah so the circle was up
00:47:58
and I so then when Amy came in I go I
00:48:03
wet the bed but it went up so you don't
00:48:05
have to tell your parents you know like
00:48:07
it didn't get on the floor yeah but um
00:48:11
sometimes you would just move over and
00:48:13
sleep sleep on the dry side yeah and
00:48:15
just let it feeling when you wake up and
00:48:18
you're like you feel warm and you're
00:48:20
like did I wet the bed and then you'd
00:48:23
have to move just a little bit and if
00:48:25
you felt that whoosh of cold and air you
00:48:27
knew that you peed you know it was like
00:48:29
so awful I remember I my first sleepover
00:48:32
party was at this girl's house and the
00:48:35
mother was like [ __ ] [ __ ] and the
00:48:39
worst thing was this is actually my
00:48:41
music
00:48:42
um they have a musical opening April
00:48:45
30th in New York and it's called the bed
00:48:48
weather it's I'm not in it it's a year
00:48:50
I'm tense little girl and it has this
00:48:53
scene in it where I I didn't know it was
00:48:56
a sleepover and then they're like oh you
00:48:58
have to sleep over you know and then I
00:49:00
tried to like tell my mom and and
00:49:02
they're all listening and she's like are
00:49:04
you sure you want to sleep over and I
00:49:06
have to say yes because they're on the
00:49:07
other line like listening
00:49:10
and then I have to borrow pajamas her
00:49:12
mother made her daughter she was like a
00:49:14
pageant mom so I'm in these like I'm
00:49:17
seven and wearing these sexy Harem
00:49:19
pajamas sleeping in their sleeping bag
00:49:22
and I wake up drenched and I'm sorry
00:49:26
excited and I just am like from having
00:49:29
to go to a sleepover Camp every year I I
00:49:32
had just had this mechanism of
00:49:34
disassociation where I just like got
00:49:37
changed with all the other girls and it
00:49:40
was wet but I just it probably stank I
00:49:42
just didn't acknowledge it and then
00:49:44
Heather's mom walks in and she steps
00:49:47
right in my wet clothes and this is what
00:49:50
a mother of seven-year-olds does she
00:49:52
picks up the wet clothes and she goes
00:49:57
and I'm just standing there like out of
00:50:00
body and I swear to God it's
00:50:03
1978 or I don't know when it was and the
00:50:06
just as I'm thinking like am I supposed
00:50:09
to say something or can I just I'm not
00:50:11
gonna and then the father came in and
00:50:13
went oh this side
00:50:16
like Elvis Presley dying saved my life
00:50:19
because I was able to just like get
00:50:21
picked up and get out of there while
00:50:22
they were like so upset the King died
00:50:26
it's one of those non-sequitors that
00:50:28
Elvis saved that humiliation did you wet
00:50:31
the bed every night then because mine
00:50:32
was more interstitial but it was fairly
00:50:34
consistent it was a lot of the time and
00:50:38
uh hmm and it was until I was like 15.
00:50:42
and then a couple of times as an adult
00:50:44
like when I got fired from Saturday
00:50:46
Night Live I remember I wet the bed like
00:50:48
three times in that week and it was with
00:50:51
three different in three different men's
00:50:53
beds oh wow
00:50:56
what yeah because I you know I liked
00:50:59
um sex I it was so new to me I lost my
00:51:01
virginity as a as a comedian I was 19.
00:51:05
so I was just like after that I loved it
00:51:07
and I was like what do his balls look
00:51:09
like what do his balls look like what do
00:51:10
his balls look like
00:51:11
now did you
00:51:13
um were your friends like that as well
00:51:15
at 19 like would you call yourself
00:51:18
promiscuous at that point
00:51:20
uh or once when I lost my virginity at
00:51:23
19 like through the year of being 20
00:51:26
yeah yes I like kept Noxzema in my
00:51:29
backpack so I can wash my face wherever
00:51:31
I landed
00:51:33
but um I didn't regret it I got a
00:51:35
terrible reputation I was a [ __ ]
00:51:37
meanwhile all the guys are [ __ ]
00:51:39
different waitresses every single night
00:51:41
you know well yeah there's a difference
00:51:43
these guys I know all of them still
00:51:46
let's see I well no they don't it's not
00:51:49
like something from my past because
00:51:51
they're comedians yeah yeah they're your
00:51:53
friends now wow that's cool I like that
00:51:56
I I always thought it was a double
00:51:57
standard why why do women they have a
00:52:00
one-night stand they're a [ __ ] oh yeah
00:52:01
but all these guys that [ __ ] every
00:52:04
waitress on the road are were just like
00:52:06
cool no no problem and they [ __ ] all
00:52:09
the same girls and wow so when did you
00:52:12
what what are you looking for because
00:52:14
just casually we as a public are fans of
00:52:17
yours we sort of know your different
00:52:19
relationships and do you has it evolved
00:52:22
who you look for or is it Whimsical or
00:52:24
are you out there or are you currently
00:52:26
in a relationship I'm just oh no I'm
00:52:27
yeah I'm I have a living love okay so
00:52:32
how many how uh well how's it going good
00:52:36
I love him he's great I you know I
00:52:38
really felt like I was at a you know
00:52:40
after my 20th year I was just in like
00:52:42
back to back long-term relationship
00:52:45
right so it was that one crazy year of
00:52:47
just wanting to experiment and then
00:52:48
we'll continue I should have I did
00:52:51
everything right in my opinion but you
00:52:53
know
00:52:55
um
00:52:56
yeah he's great he's he's a writer
00:52:59
producer he's so funny and
00:53:03
um I really was at a place where I was
00:53:05
really felt done like I I just feel like
00:53:08
I don't wanna I love love but I kind of
00:53:10
want to share my bed anymore I really
00:53:12
you know I I got to a place in the past
00:53:15
few years before meeting him like where
00:53:18
I really became my own best friend and I
00:53:20
love being alone I love coming home and
00:53:23
I love doing anything I want at all
00:53:26
times and not disappointing anyone you
00:53:29
know I really didn't do it
00:53:30
and then we met over the like at the
00:53:33
beginning of quarantine like in the
00:53:35
March 2020 over
00:53:38
um playing video games like
00:53:40
um playing online Duty online Call of
00:53:43
Duty online cool yeah so every night at
00:53:46
705 we would meet online and kill Nazis
00:53:49
together
00:53:51
and um you know I knew him a little bit
00:53:53
we had mutual friends he's you know he's
00:53:55
a comedian and a writer he was the he
00:53:58
ran The Daily Show with John Stewart for
00:54:00
a long time okay
00:54:01
and do you feel like you've matured or
00:54:05
have more confidence in a relationship
00:54:06
or how have you evolved you know because
00:54:09
going into this one it was really good
00:54:11
because I had I know what I want and
00:54:14
don't want
00:54:15
and I could be very clear from the
00:54:18
beginning in him too we both you know
00:54:21
like I
00:54:22
I've had a I love my exes I have good
00:54:25
taste in men I I you know I I met
00:54:28
several of them that you do have great
00:54:30
taste in men I do and and I'm I love
00:54:33
they're like they become like brothers
00:54:35
you know as you you know and and um
00:54:40
and and uh
00:54:43
but but with the reason why they didn't
00:54:46
work out I don't know specifically each
00:54:49
thing I'm you know whatever but I always
00:54:51
felt like I was disappointing I I tried
00:54:54
it's always my goal to be the best
00:54:56
possible girlfriend and yet I still felt
00:55:00
like I was had that feeling like I'm
00:55:01
disappointing this person in some way
00:55:04
and I just I don't want I'm not I would
00:55:07
never cheat I'm I have total
00:55:10
uh blinders you know not blind I mean in
00:55:13
a good way you know if I'm with someone
00:55:15
I don't see men other men in a sexual
00:55:17
way at all you know I'm very devoted but
00:55:21
I
00:55:22
yes somehow I would feel like oh I'm
00:55:24
disappointing there was always something
00:55:26
so it's nice to be with someone that I'm
00:55:28
not I can just say like this is I'm at a
00:55:31
point where this is how I want things
00:55:33
and he can say the same and we we talk
00:55:36
about stuff it is Spade not on where
00:55:39
were you where were you David did you
00:55:41
have to make a [ __ ]
00:55:43
did you have to make a BM
00:55:45
we see him do you hear us we were just
00:55:48
talking about relationships and love and
00:55:50
I think I do sorry Sarah
00:55:53
whatever it happens
00:55:58
you sound like you're drunk so it's like
00:56:01
Sarah I'm so sorry that happened no I'm
00:56:04
kidding no I we had a situation here I
00:56:08
don't want the people in room 29 there
00:56:11
was a oh
00:56:13
um we're just talking about
00:56:14
relationships and uh how Sarah's evolved
00:56:17
and has a a live-in lover and what how's
00:56:21
that going uh you know I've been married
00:56:23
for 40 years you know yeah to six
00:56:25
different women but my point is this no
00:56:28
I say that every week my only joke I
00:56:29
ever wrote but I I do think with mine it
00:56:32
was uh conflict you know afraid of
00:56:35
conflict and then you bury the
00:56:37
resentment you're starting to carry
00:56:39
anger around it you don't even know
00:56:41
because you don't is this the Ant Hill I
00:56:43
die on right now or should I let it go
00:56:45
by so um both my wife and I had five
00:56:48
years of therapy so we're we're great
00:56:50
we're always good but we're better yeah
00:56:52
I mean that's what Rory and I we'd
00:56:54
always go like face value I don't want
00:56:57
to meet a relationship where I have to
00:56:58
decipher what you mean by what you say
00:57:01
or like sure no that's fine oh no no if
00:57:05
I say it's fine it's fine and you know
00:57:08
it's my responsibility to say like
00:57:12
I have a problem or with that if you
00:57:14
know and not go like okay you know I
00:57:17
mean then I just can't with that stuff
00:57:19
like so we just go face value like
00:57:22
you know what I say is what I mean and
00:57:25
that's how I would only expect you to
00:57:27
take it you know and it cuts out a lot
00:57:29
of [ __ ] if you get into a place
00:57:31
where you're actually both trying to
00:57:32
open the door for the person and it's
00:57:34
really organic like I just really want
00:57:36
to help my wife and she really wants to
00:57:38
help me and we're codependent in a
00:57:40
positive way if you have a narcissist
00:57:42
and an empath and they get together all
00:57:45
hell breaks loose because the narcissist
00:57:46
can't help but they don't know they are
00:57:48
and they start to harvest and use and
00:57:50
abuse the empath so would you how are
00:57:53
where are you on that gradient scale in
00:57:54
your mind you seem like an empath well
00:57:56
the narcissist would say I'm the empath
00:57:58
right okay
00:58:00
funny maybe it's destructive though too
00:58:02
but go ahead you know that book by Alice
00:58:05
Miller I think it's called Drama of the
00:58:07
gifted child it's big yes so I remember
00:58:10
reading it and I met with a friend for
00:58:12
lunch and I go oh I just read this book
00:58:14
it's called Drama of the gifted child
00:58:15
and she goes oh I heard a really
00:58:17
interesting story about that it's
00:58:20
originally titled drama of the
00:58:22
narcissistic child but they realized the
00:58:25
people that would need to read it
00:58:26
wouldn't so they they named a drama of
00:58:29
the gifted child and then I was like a
00:58:32
little deflated and also like it really
00:58:33
made me go like wow yeah but but I would
00:58:36
say just for myself uh empathetic people
00:58:39
can be dysfunctional and passive
00:58:41
aggressive and people pleasing like I
00:58:43
didn't even think that as
00:58:44
self-congratulatory and we all have a
00:58:46
combo but I did learn in therapy that um
00:58:50
you know it's very very good to try to
00:58:53
get in touch with saying no on your
00:58:55
inner narcissist if you're you want some
00:58:57
of that going in other words you draw
00:58:59
boundaries this is it I won't take any
00:59:02
more of this and so that really helped
00:59:03
me with that that was kind of patterns
00:59:05
from my childhood crazy parents crazy
00:59:07
everything so
00:59:11
[Music]
00:59:14
it's funny somebody called into my
00:59:15
podcast yesterday about sex workers like
00:59:18
just saying like um you know I I don't
00:59:21
know how to feel about like porn and sex
00:59:23
workers like they should you know do
00:59:26
what they want but aren't a lot of them
00:59:28
have like really traumatic
00:59:31
pasts and you know and I you know I
00:59:33
don't know the answer to this but I was
00:59:35
talking about I go like it's so funny
00:59:36
because yes they probably have common
00:59:38
trauma but so do comedians so do actors
00:59:42
so do uh politicians they have common
00:59:45
traumas that drive them to want to do
00:59:47
the X Y or Z you know yeah
00:59:51
all right guys so well I want to mention
00:59:53
Sarah Silverman's podcast which I watch
00:59:57
and that's really fun on YouTube you
00:59:59
know oh my gosh so you've been doing
01:00:01
that like for during the pandemic couple
01:00:04
hundred shows or that's when I started I
01:00:06
was like
01:00:07
I couldn't do stand up I couldn't fathom
01:00:09
doing stand-up on Zoom like you know and
01:00:12
then I was like I I I'm gonna have to do
01:00:15
a podcast because I you know I know
01:00:18
where to put this or like to generate
01:00:21
even to like make a living just stand up
01:00:24
you know yeah and keep your mind sharp
01:00:26
by you know improvising and stuff like
01:00:28
that yeah I really I like it I mean it
01:00:31
just the only thing about it is that
01:00:32
it's never ending
01:00:35
you know like yeah I think I just you
01:00:37
don't get a bunch of episodes and then
01:00:38
take a month off or you're just
01:00:40
consistently churning them kind of um
01:00:43
like I just shot this show and I had to
01:00:46
take
01:00:48
two or three weeks off so but what I do
01:00:50
is I talk forever and then they take
01:00:54
anything that can be Evergreen and save
01:00:57
it so I do like stockpile stuff that
01:01:00
isn't um like from this moment and then
01:01:04
like I'm when I go to New York to do the
01:01:07
musical The bedwetter which opens April
01:01:10
30th at the Atlantic theater based on
01:01:13
your book yeah yeah it's a little bit
01:01:16
yeah one year
01:01:17
and uh BB new Earth is playing my Nana
01:01:21
oh she's incredible I was thinking she's
01:01:24
too old to play 10. yeah no she's like a
01:01:27
young sexy Nana from like with a Boston
01:01:29
accent and Sarah you get calls on
01:01:31
voicemail and then you listen to them
01:01:33
and answer them right yeah so so so we
01:01:36
so will bank I like banked some when I
01:01:39
did my last one I did like a lot a ton
01:01:41
of ads the ads are a little soul killing
01:01:44
but like I do look through them and like
01:01:46
if they really have a bad like Better
01:01:49
Business Bureau grade or something I say
01:01:51
no but I do a lot you know a lot of them
01:01:53
I kind of like to own them I don't know
01:01:55
why it doesn't it's funny broadcaster
01:01:59
yeah they seem fun Remember When Johnny
01:02:01
Carson would hold up Alpo and stuff like
01:02:03
that you know just to go right at it but
01:02:06
it's really fun to fun to watch that
01:02:08
show and your clothes change a lot I
01:02:10
guess because they do edits because like
01:02:12
you have a blue shirt on and then they
01:02:13
do a cut and then you have a yellow
01:02:15
sweater on stuff yeah because it doesn't
01:02:17
matter with podcasts nobody cares mostly
01:02:19
people hear it audio if they watch it on
01:02:21
YouTube yeah you'll see me in different
01:02:24
outfits because it will be like stuff
01:02:25
from this week that week this week you
01:02:28
know like more Evergreen things will
01:02:30
just be from other weeks where I just go
01:02:33
and go and go you know but um yeah yeah
01:02:35
the calls are like sometimes they're so
01:02:38
sad and I you know and I have to
01:02:40
remember like I have to try to be funny
01:02:42
at some point in this
01:02:43
episode this is like but I also like I'm
01:02:46
so sorry you're you know Grandma
01:02:48
sometimes you're just giving girls
01:02:49
serious advice which is kind of kind of
01:02:52
cool
01:02:53
you know yeah you're actually it's funny
01:02:55
because I like I did like this more
01:02:57
political show on Hulu and then I did a
01:03:00
pilot for a political show on HBO and
01:03:02
like you know again I'm like shocked
01:03:05
when they don't pick it up I'm like what
01:03:07
I always think I'm putting gold in their
01:03:09
lap because I like it you know and but
01:03:12
now I have no desire to do a play I just
01:03:15
want to do dumb silly stuff because I've
01:03:16
got the podcast to talk about whatever I
01:03:18
want to talk about and
01:03:20
you know I just want to laugh big silly
01:03:23
stuff that's just uh you know why
01:03:26
watched uh the second Pink Panther
01:03:28
because my mother-in-law was in town
01:03:30
love slapstick with Peter Sellers uh
01:03:32
revenge of the Pink Panther and it was
01:03:34
just seeing her laugh at 91 from Dublin
01:03:37
belly laughing crazy and and then I
01:03:40
started to do it you know it's such a
01:03:43
joy you know those kinds of
01:03:44
old-fashioned movies just silly big set
01:03:47
pieces that are relentlessly everything
01:03:49
that could go wrong does go wrong and
01:03:52
Peter Sellers with this whole thing
01:03:53
anyway that's like super Dave like he
01:03:56
was like the yeah he was for me like I
01:03:59
never was really into physical comedy
01:04:01
but super Dave is Total Physical comedy
01:04:05
and I
01:04:06
he made me laugh so hard yeah he was he
01:04:10
knew it was coming but it didn't it
01:04:12
didn't matter there's something Primal
01:04:14
about it you know falling down and stuff
01:04:17
you know yeah my niece sent me a video
01:04:20
that she took of my dad she showed him
01:04:22
like a a Triumph the insult dog like
01:04:26
special and he was I thought he was
01:04:28
gonna die he was laughing so hard the
01:04:30
Star Wars one or the dog show I love the
01:04:33
Star Wars one but it was like a
01:04:35
political special he had done yeah
01:04:37
Robert smile strikes again oh my God
01:04:40
yeah those are funny they're just so
01:04:42
yeah man he's talking to the guy in the
01:04:44
Darth Vader thing and he's like what
01:04:46
does this button do call your mom to
01:04:48
pick you up
01:04:50
that's the best one
01:04:52
oh uh all right we should let Sarah go
01:04:55
she's been a good sport she's got a big
01:04:58
night tonight I do no no I don't know
01:05:01
I'm just asking what are you gonna do
01:05:03
after we finish this podcast Danny's
01:05:06
coming over to see my house because I I
01:05:08
just bought my first ever house woo
01:05:13
yeah so he's coming over we're getting a
01:05:15
little lunchy and then and then walk the
01:05:18
dogs whatever let's sound on ended
01:05:20
earlier when it was better
01:05:22
you know when I talked to Jonathan Katz
01:05:24
he told me a joke he had just made up
01:05:26
and it was so funny he said um you know
01:05:30
Sarah
01:05:31
I think we can all agree the worst
01:05:34
people in the world are child
01:05:35
pornographers
01:05:37
like oh yeah and he goes I think they
01:05:39
should be prosecuted as adults
01:05:43
it's not like that's such a perfect joke
01:05:45
yes all right well Sarah David Spade you
01:05:50
got a joke David
01:05:52
no um I don't think so okay ready here's
01:05:56
a joke he's always got some I said
01:05:59
there's a it's an it's the 90th
01:06:01
anniversary no it's a 90 year old couple
01:06:04
oh no you know what that means there's
01:06:08
six 60th anniversary and the wife wants
01:06:10
to do something special so she tells the
01:06:12
guy to get in bed and she's got a
01:06:14
surprise from so a nine-year-old woman
01:06:17
she goes in the in the bathroom and gets
01:06:19
naked except for a cake she puts on a
01:06:21
cape and then she pops out of the
01:06:24
bathroom and gets the foot of the bed
01:06:25
and goes Super [ __ ] and he goes I'll
01:06:28
take the soup
01:06:32
[Laughter]
01:06:36
[Applause]
01:06:41
just take that to your I was nervous to
01:06:44
come on the show and I was listening and
01:06:46
I wrote down something in case I didn't
01:06:48
think of anything because I was
01:06:50
listening you're all talking about
01:06:51
Saturday Night Live and everything and I
01:06:53
I had written one thing down which is
01:06:55
not that but it's
01:06:57
you know when I worked there I was
01:06:58
always like on the fourth row in
01:07:00
read-throughs like way in the back and
01:07:03
then I hosted one time and I you know
01:07:05
you get to sit right next to Lauren and
01:07:08
uh I have like a terrible Sound
01:07:11
Sensitivity misophonia like mouth sounds
01:07:14
and stuff that like make me insane
01:07:17
the whole read through Lauren is eating
01:07:19
baby carrots
01:07:23
I was like Out of Body Experience like
01:07:26
it makes me like I can't even hear
01:07:28
concentrate on anything I tried to like
01:07:31
Slide the the platter away like without
01:07:34
anyone noticing he pulls it background
01:07:38
and I remember he would do that and
01:07:40
occasionally I'd say what are you doing
01:07:41
he goes he goes uh oh what's up doc
01:07:44
sorry Bugs Bunny
01:07:47
Bugs Bunny Lauren doing Bugs Bunny
01:07:50
there's that thing of like you're
01:07:52
chewing that's funny audio sensory
01:07:54
bedwetting tactile uh new uh live-in
01:07:59
boyfriend having fun said it all we kind
01:08:02
of we kind of did it all too
01:08:04
all right well thank you Sarah see we'll
01:08:07
end it on one of these all right thank
01:08:09
you Sarah we have five endings bye bye
01:08:12
Sarah
01:08:13
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Johnny Byrne this is your question was
01:08:51
not about Adele but you say hi David and
01:08:53
Dana I'm a 29 year old comic from Salt
01:08:56
Lake not Mormon uh who has been in
01:08:59
Chicago for five years and just moved to
01:09:00
L.A I'm sure you get this question a lot
01:09:02
but what advice would you have for
01:09:04
someone who inspires Ben SNL you know
01:09:07
that is a common question but
01:09:08
the only answer is and I get the
01:09:10
question a lot about most about being
01:09:12
comic is they have to find you I think
01:09:16
it's there's no secret advice from Me
01:09:19
Maybe Dan has more he's he knows more
01:09:21
than me but if you're good
01:09:23
even other Comics will help you get on
01:09:25
other shows even people go you're good
01:09:27
it's kind of a weird thing but
01:09:30
someone will say you're good and someone
01:09:32
will say to their agent maybe you should
01:09:33
check this guy out and just getting
01:09:35
stage time is probably my best advice as
01:09:37
much as you can yeah first of all make
01:09:39
sure it's a passion because show
01:09:40
business will break your heart they used
01:09:42
to have people come to our College San
01:09:44
Francisco State wasn't a real college
01:09:45
and they'd be like a regional actress or
01:09:48
did a couple commercials the first thing
01:09:50
they'd always say is if you can do
01:09:52
anything else in your life besides Show
01:09:54
Business do that only do that if you
01:09:56
can't live without doing it so first of
01:09:58
all you've got to have the passion
01:09:59
secondarily you just got to live on
01:10:01
stage you got to either be a stand-up
01:10:03
living on stage work under material or
01:10:05
go to the ground leads or second City do
01:10:07
all the classes keep going networking
01:10:09
but the main thing is the passion and
01:10:12
always look at your feet don't look at
01:10:14
I'm making it or while make it forget
01:10:17
future tripping just like how good am I
01:10:19
today am I a little bit better today
01:10:21
than it was I yesterday people say I'm
01:10:24
gonna do this is free I'm not going to
01:10:26
charge anyone for this people say I I'm
01:10:28
gonna try it for six months I'm gonna
01:10:29
try it for you if I don't make it what
01:10:32
you do in that six months or a year
01:10:33
you're probably going to be a lifer just
01:10:35
so you know are you really going to go
01:10:36
back no so you go am I doing one percent
01:10:39
better did I get one call back in this
01:10:41
year instead of zero I'm doing better
01:10:43
it's an emotionally violent sport even
01:10:46
after you have success and you're in a
01:10:47
big movie and it bombs or or you're at a
01:10:50
corporate date and you bomb so it's just
01:10:51
emotionally violent it's also
01:10:53
exhilarating I told myself early on I
01:10:56
said if David Spade ever gets on
01:10:58
Saturday Night Live I'll quit Show
01:10:59
Business
01:10:59
[Laughter]
01:11:05
before SNL and I wasn't on SNL we're two
01:11:08
civilians yeah and now we're here today
01:11:10
can you believe it so I legally adopted
01:11:12
him 18 years ago because people on
01:11:14
Instagram or is he your kid or what's
01:11:16
going on he is now hey son uh Johnny
01:11:18
thank you for that and I hope that helps

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Episode Highlights

  • Early Stand-Up Success
    Started stand-up at 17 and was on television within four years. 'That's pretty good.'
    “That's pretty good.”
    @ 20m 18s
    October 07, 2022
  • The Influence of Steve Martin
    Grew up idolizing Steve Martin, even wrote 'I love Steve Martin' on my ceiling.
    “I love Steve Martin with the heart around it.”
    @ 22m 37s
    October 07, 2022
  • The Pressure of SNL
    Describes the anxiety of waiting to see if sketches made it to the show. 'No one tells you how things work.'
    “No one tells you how things work.”
    @ 28m 28s
    October 07, 2022
  • Finding Confidence in Comedy
    Discusses the importance of having fun on stage and the pressure to perform. 'You got to have fun right before you go out.'
    “You got to have fun right before you go out.”
    @ 33m 38s
    October 07, 2022
  • Confidence at a Young Age
    Eddie Murphy was amazing at 19, a true shooting star of confidence.
    “There's never been anyone that confident at 19.”
    @ 39m 58s
    October 07, 2022
  • The Importance of Comedy
    Comedy can provide relief and joy, acting as brain candy for the soul.
    “If you can get someone to belly laugh, it's brain candy.”
    @ 45m 36s
    October 07, 2022
  • Finding Love During Quarantine
    Meeting a partner while playing video games online during quarantine changed everything.
    “I really became my own best friend and I love being alone.”
    @ 53m 12s
    October 07, 2022
  • Podcasting Journey
    Exploring the challenges and joys of podcasting, including the need to keep content fresh.
    “It's never ending.”
    @ 01h 00m 32s
    October 07, 2022
  • The Bedwetter Musical
    Discussing the upcoming musical based on her book, featuring a unique cast.
    “It's a little bit... one year.”
    @ 01h 01m 16s
    October 07, 2022
  • Advice for Aspiring Comics
    Sharing insights on pursuing a career in comedy and the importance of passion.
    “Show business will break your heart.”
    @ 01h 09m 42s
    October 07, 2022

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  • Stand-Up Beginnings20:16
  • SNL Journey22:05
  • Influences22:25
  • First Sketch Excitement28:34
  • Performing Under Pressure34:31
  • Confidence39:58
  • Quarantine Love53:12
  • Comedy Advice1:09:42

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