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Marcy Klein intro
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declined just for everyone who's about
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to hear this podcast yeah Marcy Klein
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was a very important figure at SNL for
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many decades as a producer uh kind of
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Lauren's right hand woman and was talent
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management and guest management and she
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has some amazing Stories she's really
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funny
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and uh just fun to hang out with and fun
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to have dinner with yeah you know we I
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think we used her she asked about she
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said if you guys want to talk to me
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because I hear my name we we throw it in
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casually like Norm was back there Marcy
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brought her out you know Marcy brought
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us in yeah she brings you to see the
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host when they need the host if the host
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is Bored she walks in Spade Sharon
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Stone's in there go go go say something
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all right all right and then you go in
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there and she doesn't want to talk and
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she'll she'll tell some stories about
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that inside baseball she won't mention
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the name but it's like five minutes
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before the air show and goes into the
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dressing room and the person's like I
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just can't go on there's no actors
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and she has to figure out she has a
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psychological Jiu Jitsu to get this
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person ready to do 90 minutes alive
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stand up yeah so she had a lot of funny
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stories there's a lot of inside how
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people got on auditions uh how they pick
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uh very interesting she was there my
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whole run I think your whole run too oh
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yeah she was I mean I I I knew her which
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we we talk about when I did Brown
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University as a stand-up and she was in
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the front row and something funny
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happens oh that's right I think we
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talked about that so I knew her from
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that and all of a sudden she's at the
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show and she has a very famous Dad I
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just didn't have any idea and she's
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running the town department and uh she
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was sort of a scout also she had a lot
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of different uh she would look at the
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old VHS tapes and she would just hang
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out with us all the cast members this is
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our mascot uh actually will told me I
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used to go let's go down to Wally and
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Joseph's when he was we had our overlap
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Wally and Joseph that's a good place we
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used to all go uh okay here she is Marcy
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foreign
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[Music]
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there was an amazing guy that he brought
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when he hosted that was a like guy that
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like I can't explain who he was but I
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was like David that guy is amazing he
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was like a chiropractor do you know when
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you hosted David did you bring a
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chiropractor to the show oh maybe I
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broke what a movie star traveling with a
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team it didn't help by the way Marcy do
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you remember hi Marcy hi David do you
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remember when I got sick when I hosted
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yes I don't know if Dana remembers this
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I will refresh your memory what what are
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we talking the early knots or past 210
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the middle knots I think I hosted
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maybe it's the second time whatever
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I only did two whoops three you guys all
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try to blackball me no I'm kidding I
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only did two but they were [ __ ]
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terrifying and it's so much harder
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because when I was on I Didn't Have I
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was never in like a ton of sketches like
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Dana so when I'm on Phil was in a lot of
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sketches hosting is a [ __ ]
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oh it's sober that's 13 sketches in the
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cold opening and some signature hold
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your hand that week were you are you
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around are you working on 30 Rock at
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that point no I feel like when David
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maybe when you hosted I was like I can
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take the week off yeah I mean like it's
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there's nothing better than ex former
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cast members that come back yeah you
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knew that yeah yeah see at the party
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yeah you're like you know the drill you
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know I know read through I know when
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it's gonna be hard but even when we did
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spend time together that first because I
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remember you hosting and thinking that
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was a big deal I think what happened was
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stressed out Dana when he hosted was not
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stressed out
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um well in the 90s I was when I came
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back in 2010 I was too uh you know
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you're living up to the past and you
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can't where's the pepper boy sketch you
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know it's like you know what I mean it's
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like you you put a little pressure on
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yourself but David's always calm and
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cool didn't you do
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uh character what was the character that
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um the guy who did the Dan with Will
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Ferrell sorry um there's Chris Catan he
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had that little phone I did mango and
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kiwi and you wore shorts and I go God
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that guy has really muscular legs and
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that's been your your legacy I should
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never not wear shorts because it was a
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that was unbelievable
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oh the letters that came in here's what
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happened though Dana I do I do dress
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and I I'm sure it was Mars who was there
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because she probably can when I retell
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this I say it was Marcy for people that
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don't know Marcy was the she ran the
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talent their producer for years she was
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she was for probably at least 20 years
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she was going into a room with a scared
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movie star or athlete who said I just
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can't go on tonight it's like 11 20 and
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Marcy's job was to get them out of that
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room so they'd go out for the monologues
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anyway we'll get back to Joe listen you
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quit and we fire you and they're like
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wait what uh uh anyway children away now
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get your ass out there I'm doing
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um one of my hilarious bits but I'm in
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so many things in Spades very fragile
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like
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what about you I'm doing like a nine
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hour dress Dana and we're about almost
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we're probably the last two sketches and
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it's like 10 50. I was either it was
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food or it was stress or I wasn't
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feeling good and I was sick and I'm like
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and I'm just sitting in a sketch you
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know right right when the sketch is over
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they go okay run over here you know you
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got 30 seconds and I just sat there in
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the sketch and I think it was Marcy
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Spade let's go and then I go
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and all the costumes are waiting
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and then I just laid down in front of
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the sketch and they go what the [ __ ]
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going on and Marcy's like hold hold tell
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him to hold and so they bring me in the
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dressing room hold was this a rehearsal
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or the air show it was a dress which is
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still a full audio it's embarrassing
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whole dress
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oh I go in the bathroom and I'm laying
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there and it's coming out both ends I'm
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laying on the floor I'm like do I have
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food poisoning from huxley's or what
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because I always tell the hosts never
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eat they're like I'll have she
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was like I don't have sushi before the
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[ __ ] life I'll have the scariest
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thing to eat possible uh nothing for me
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just these Vietnamese uh egg rolls will
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do and you're like oh I wouldn't eat
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that before so I am laying on the floor
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Dana freaking out Marcy comes over and
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marshes the door and I hear Lauren
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what's what's happening and uh she talks
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about what she's doing oh that was our
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Lauren okay and and I just hear on the
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other side of the door I'm laying face
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down my bathroom going
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like I don't even wanna and why didn't
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you guys to go back for a third time
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host no you know what and I didn't sue
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them
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now but what happened was I was just
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either over stressed or didn't eat and
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it was too much pressure and then after
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I sort of got everything out of my
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system I could feel myself lightening up
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going okay I feel better and then I
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think Marcy and Lauren this sounds like
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a lot but I think they were saying what
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do we do because we have to tell NBC if
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we're going to run a rerun tonight right
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right and we might not be able to make
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it he saw the nurse who is still oh yes
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yes and it's Teresa yeah I just ran into
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her I'm at NBC is she around to Teresa
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right yeah she helped I saw the last
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time I did Fallon text her to come up to
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discuss it well we could talk about when
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I separated my shoulder but let's go
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back to him did you rally Mike Myers you
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know have you guys had Mike oh yeah yeah
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Mike was violently ill do you remember
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yes there was a show where he was truly
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yes really violently growing up like
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behind the set right before he came out
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yeah I thought it was Philip and he
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pooped in the bathtub he posted and he
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was sick too David are you trying to be
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Mike Myers I'm trying to be exact I'm
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stealing his story you're sick of Mike
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Myers This is Gonna trip by the way
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Marcy I'm like laying there in like a
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UPS outfit because I'm in whatever
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sketch you know so then I get my act
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together
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a lot of people don't feel great sure I
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should be a seasoned vet though I should
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be the last
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one's a marathon used to pass out at the
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read through a lot you know come on I
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didn't like it I'd have spaghetti
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brought into the read through it at the
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break and then I just sit there go ahead
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Tom Hanks you just reminded me that I
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used to order the food for read through
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that was another one of my jobs remember
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I used to like I almost was um I got the
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cars for the cast oh you were a Friday
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night you had like five jobs it seemed
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like you were everything I used to think
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you were just like everywhere you were
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holding the hand you were hanging out
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with us what I hung out with your moms
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remember the mothers
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episode I took them out that was a fun
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week took my mom to Chippendales I just
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saw rose rock
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um
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Rose at Radio City oh you saw Chris yeah
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and Chris and I just went on Sunday to
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see tar have you seen tar tar Spade it
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you wouldn't get it is it a movie a play
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or is it it's with Kate Blanchett my
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celebrity crush oh it's a great it's a
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play that's brilliant right because no
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no it's a movie it's a movie it's a
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masterpiece is it on live streaming
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could I watch it right now on the corner
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of my laptop it probably will be I mean
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it's very it's like a almost three hour
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movie I see it I'm gonna have the sound
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off but I'm just gonna let it run there
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has she coasted wait one second
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um I keep hearing a ding and I think
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it's coming from my computer and I'm
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trying to okay stop notification it
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might be your emails we're not hearing
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it it's I had that you go into
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notifications anyway no I guess it's I
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mean is it going to annoy you well just
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just pretend you're making a cake if you
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guys haven't heard it then maybe it's
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only on my end yeah it's not gonna it's
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it's fine it's it's okay we don't have
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we have a very low budget podcast so
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it's our
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technicality we barely make it I don't
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even know if I'm recording yes I am Dana
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I'll just tell you that the end of the
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story is I drag myself back up I
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finished the UPS sketch those people
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have been there for 25 minutes I do it I
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give it absolutely nothing the poor
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writers are like well that one's not
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gonna make it and then I do one more
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sketch skate through and then we get
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ready for air and uh everything was fine
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after that but I swear it was touch and
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go and I remember Mars Marcy you were
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there from the very very beginning for
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me for sure Dina brought you in and you
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sat on the couch outside of the talent
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Department waiting to meet with Lauren
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on 17 in front of the microwave oven
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which is what where my desk used to be
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because I knew David before SNL and in
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the club so I I brought him in and he
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actually passed out the same way with
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the UPS story you just went down I go
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hold that just Mercy tell Lauren can you
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go can we get 10 and you know Marcy's a
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champ always cool Under Pressure but um
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yeah you have an amazing that was like
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on a Friday night yeah no I I who was I
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talking to Mark she goes Lauren will be
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with you in three to seven hours just
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relax I'm like what what's that Lauren
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will be with you next Thursday you have
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to wait here that you were meeting him
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on 17. it must have been like a Tuesday
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night because there's I would have not
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been it was up on 17. David do you
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remember this I don't remember meeting
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Lauren outside of 17. I I would always
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just hanging out I just remember
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thinking Dana is here with some guy I've
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never met
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and I was trying to you appeared and
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then you I don't remember how you got on
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the show but I know it was I feel like
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well Dana and Dennis helped um and then
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I had the audition were you at the
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audition for me that's a good question
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well I was at I was at the great
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question Adam
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oh Schneider
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um Chris Rock was with Adam wasn't he
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miss Chris Rock and Farley came they
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started oh yeah they came later yeah
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yeah
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did they come later or before well we
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brought they came before you no Rob and
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I got the last four episodes of a year
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so we finished a season that's right
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when we came back they picked us up as
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writer performers and then Rock and
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Farley were joined so they were the
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first read through that's right that's
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right I remember that yeah they were
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full feature and we were I think writer
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features and then Sandler came about two
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three months
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and there there was oh yeah yeah the Bad
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Boys arrived like it was like they were
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leaving right wasn't that the whole
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thing that was I started in 89. I
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remember and uh do you could I tell the
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story how that when I went to Brown
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University and then I know I know so
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yeah I mean the funniest best story ever
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tell it well it just be I was playing
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the college you know and I was doing my
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acting and Marcy sat up front she had
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this incredibly crazy hair like just
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gigantic thick hair I don't know if you
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were laughing very hard or or talking to
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me or something like you know everyone
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was obsessed with Dana and every no one
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could believe you were there and and I
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was like front and center and I felt
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like we had an eye contact and my hair
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must have been because my hair was so
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big yeah is that and I used the old
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comedian trick of calling you big hair
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woman and then you call it back what do
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you say big hair woman so you became the
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co-star of that set yeah and then I
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don't know if it was like six months
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later or whatever all of a sudden I see
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you walking around 8h it's like big hair
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woman's here you know and I was like
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wait do you remember that that and he
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said he remembered and of course I don't
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really know at the time I was like wow
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he really remembered that oh yeah but
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obviously that was just shtick and that
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you didn't remember me oh I did remember
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that oh yeah I didn't do that many
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colleges and I remember you did have big
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hair there was a woman with giant hair
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and I called her big hair woman I don't
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know I did other things with the
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audience like you know orange coat man
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spade does it too yeah I did shorts guy
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the other night this guy's shorts I'm
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sure what do you think yeah so you were
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a big hair woman so I did remember it
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and you were front and center you're
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kind of almost in the light so I
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remember what you look like and then you
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didn't tease it up it had a little Bon
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Jovi I didn't have to tease it up it was
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just big big I probably did tease it up
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it was just a lot of hair we're all over
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the place but that's sort of how we are
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Miller called me hair too that was like
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my name hey hair come over here okay get
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some orange Sun kiss kind of deal down
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here if you don't mind my spuddly
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wouldn't kill you to write some update
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jokes slide them under my desk we love
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Dennis no slide him under my door let's
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let's for a second whatever I'll do some
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housekeeping for people who are
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listening this is Marcy Klein
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she is an Emmy Award winner I think Alec
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Baltimore called you the greatest
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producer in the history of broadcast
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television she produced 30 Rock and then
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she was ubiquitous she was everywhere on
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Saturday Night Live for like 20 years
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and she did 25 years and she did every
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kind of job and I remember as just just
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doing a lot of things she wasn't like a
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handyman but she was she well she did
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fix my sink anyway she had a tool kit
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she did drywall my office yeah I called
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her toolkit after that and everything
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except be a cast member yeah but I've
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been in action okay I'll do I'll cut to
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it like a Barbara Walters who was the
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craziest host
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what did Lauren say when you asked Dad
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we asked him crazy as host David
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um no because uh he I don't think he
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would ever say I always get hurt
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there were some I wouldn't use the word
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crazy but uh some were more heavily
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maintenance you know kind of thing but
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challenge everyone asked me and I would
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I just do Steven Seagal because I have a
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Steven Seagal bit you know but I don't
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say like I liked Steven Seagal actually
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me too and people go right that was a
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crazy week I think that was a bizarre
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week because Nora left the show oh yeah
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yeah yeah or no no she she had left the
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show because it dies clay sorry she left
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Dice Clay week did David did you boycott
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the Steven Seagal show
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I'd boycotted mostly because of his
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ponytail
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for you Marcy were you in chat
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I don't remember that
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the the um in the set do you remember
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this when he was doing the sketch he
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like he wanted to be outside
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upset yeah and Jesus
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Liz Welch you know Liz I remember yeah
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I just was texting with Liz she's so
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funny she's so great Steven you can't
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stand there yeah yeah Stephen
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you know we need to you know like we
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were trying to sort of deal with him
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I mean looking back like
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he he just I I don't want to say
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anything more but he it was a it was a a
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week that was one of my first weeks
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where I thought like oh not every week
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is the same and it looks different and
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you have to deal with them yeah he but
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in the end it just was it like I feel
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like Jim Downey was that was a difficult
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week for Jim oof as a head right anyone
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that had to get right face to face with
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him and deal it's always tough
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when the host is a probably nervous
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which is understandable
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and B didn't want to be
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remember I just remember kung fu
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fighting like he didn't want to goofy
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thing where we made fun of him in the
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read through Arnold could beat you up
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you know your buttocks are like
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marshmallows and he just sat there and
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listened to him and then on the
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rehearsal stage didn't say anything for
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two days on Thursday we're walking
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through it and then he goes way over he
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leaves where we are at the center of 8h
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and moves like 100 feet away is just
00:18:21
standing and Kevin or maybe Marcy said
00:18:23
can you go talk to him and I went over
00:18:25
there and he didn't even look at me and
00:18:27
he said I just wish Arnold was here so I
00:18:29
could kick his [ __ ] ass
00:18:31
so for two days he was stewing and then
00:18:34
we had to rewrite the thing you're
00:18:36
stronger than Arnold and then I ran into
00:18:38
Schwarzenegger makes no sense in Santa
00:18:41
Monica six months later I said so call
00:18:43
says he wants to kick your ass and he's
00:18:45
with all his giant Austrian guys at foot
00:18:46
long cigar he leans back and goes is
00:18:48
that the fact
00:18:50
so that's that was a he was eccentric
00:18:54
but I just liked his stories it was all
00:18:56
he was talking about Russia and martial
00:18:59
arts and conspiracy theories I found him
00:19:01
fascinating so yeah yeah no he was that
00:19:04
that I just reminded me of Sylvester
00:19:06
Stallone who's so nice and I had to go
00:19:09
to the set David were you with me I was
00:19:13
I didn't I was there when he hosted Adam
00:19:15
McKay maybe I'm I'm um Were You There
00:19:18
When Adam McKay was there or that was
00:19:20
after you left I think he might have
00:19:22
been I should look I I need a sheep I
00:19:25
was not it might have been Will
00:19:26
Ferrell's first year I've been there
00:19:28
when he was hosting but I was gone it
00:19:30
was it was like I had to do like that um
00:19:34
you know you watch it in the movies of
00:19:35
you know like Talent people that try and
00:19:38
sign you know hope like I had to go to
00:19:41
the movie Set and meet with him and I
00:19:43
brought Adam McKay and I feel like I
00:19:46
might maybe I brought willfare I can't
00:19:48
we need Ayala here right but you
00:19:51
remember going to the set to kind of uh
00:19:53
walk him through what SNL be like to
00:19:56
convince him yes it was like I had to
00:19:57
sort of you know like host comes in and
00:20:00
the first person they meet in when I
00:20:02
first started when when you were there
00:20:04
when you when when I came when you were
00:20:06
already there I would go to my first
00:20:08
host was Dolly Parton and I had to pick
00:20:10
her up at the airport like she got wow
00:20:14
hi
00:20:17
um the airport pickups I love it oh yeah
00:20:19
and that was for cell phones God they
00:20:21
couldn't send a car you had to drive to
00:20:23
there I don't know I was born in the car
00:20:25
yes
00:20:28
um I would it was just a lot of like
00:20:31
waiting around and and then eventually
00:20:35
I you know so when the host comes in I
00:20:38
have to sort of explain everything
00:20:39
that's gonna happen yeah that Lauren
00:20:41
sort of does that he shortens that
00:20:44
go in and it's before the Monday meeting
00:20:47
right exactly they meet you first and so
00:20:50
with Sylvester Stallone it was the first
00:20:52
time where I think
00:20:54
Fred Spector was his agents whoever
00:20:56
whoever his agent was said no you have
00:20:58
to go get convinced slide to do the show
00:21:02
that's old school he was the only one
00:21:06
that was not just showing up because he
00:21:09
was booked so he was shooting a movie
00:21:12
here Ray Liotta I remember getting in
00:21:14
trouble because I was Ray Liotta was
00:21:16
like she's in my [ __ ] eye line like I
00:21:18
I was like
00:21:20
why like yeah it was like and then
00:21:24
eventually Ray Liotta hosted but anyway
00:21:26
those guys were all sort of similar well
00:21:31
maybe that's old school like come talk
00:21:33
me into it come get me you know I need
00:21:36
coaxing Stallone is the nicest dude
00:21:38
anyway the nicest and he wrote everyone
00:21:40
thank you notes and he was so nice and I
00:21:44
didn't do that yeah yeah he's a total
00:21:47
you know dead earth guy still can not
00:21:49
too late hey dear Liz how are you all
00:21:53
doing you know dear Audrey Audrey pert
00:21:56
was there Ken Amon Jim Henry
00:21:59
Jim Henry sat me down to explain why I'm
00:22:02
making so little money Jim Henry uh he
00:22:06
was the business Affairs guy do you guys
00:22:08
remember Andrew Brewer
00:22:10
yeah yeah
00:22:11
he I emailed us a letter didn't he or
00:22:15
yeah even though it's a question yeah
00:22:17
because he says he's at a cafe in
00:22:19
Barcelona or something yeah he's in
00:22:21
Barcelona yeah yeah so we all those are
00:22:23
old it was one time Marcy when I said
00:22:26
[ __ ] on the air with Dennis at update
00:22:28
and Andrew Brewer he said you gotta
00:22:31
Mumble it and I walk upstairs he goes
00:22:32
what are you doing to me he means me
00:22:34
right right when I step off of update
00:22:36
what do you do Spade what are you doing
00:22:37
you're gonna get me fired we're all
00:22:39
going down
00:22:40
that's like when who smoked
00:22:43
um who was the band that they were
00:22:45
smoking pot on stage
00:22:49
uh I'm gonna guess Black Stone Temple
00:22:52
Pilots do you remember Marcy I was
00:22:54
upstairs and I did a joke where I said
00:22:57
Stone Temple Pilots I like them the
00:22:59
first time I saw them when they were
00:23:01
called Pearl Jam and then when they
00:23:03
hosted remember that they said they want
00:23:05
to kick my ass and they and then Marcy
00:23:07
had to go down and and they yeah I
00:23:09
always just picture you with a cigarette
00:23:10
going all right listen I'm gonna go talk
00:23:12
to him all right but do not come
00:23:14
downstairs don't come down to eight stay
00:23:15
on 17 until we figure this out God how
00:23:18
many fires did you put out I mean my God
00:23:20
that's what Lauren always said he's like
00:23:22
Marcy puts out fire
00:23:26
[Music]
00:23:28
anyway putting out fires was always I
00:23:32
think that was something I'm proud of
00:23:34
you know that I did that that's
00:23:35
important that's a scary thing when
00:23:38
someone's melting down or being a
00:23:39
problem you're walking to the door and
00:23:40
you do the little knock and you don't
00:23:42
know what you're gonna find have you
00:23:44
ever had anybody you came in and they
00:23:46
got overtly hostile like what the [ __ ]
00:23:49
are you telling me yes
00:23:52
um was it David
00:23:54
um no but uh a very famous very famous
00:23:59
um woman woman Glenn Close
00:24:03
um no no Sharon Stone threw a boot at me
00:24:06
one of her shoes at me when I had to
00:24:09
tell her something that she didn't want
00:24:11
to hear
00:24:13
um Aaron Osborne would do that
00:24:15
sorry go ahead
00:24:18
Sharon so they threw a boot at you with
00:24:20
true anger and did you dodge it I mean
00:24:22
did you like yeah I I understood her
00:24:25
reaction to be honest you know
00:24:27
Gabriel Byrne he hosted were either of
00:24:30
you there I was there for that one he
00:24:32
came up to me I loved him and at the
00:24:35
next week he was like he came back like
00:24:37
the next Saturday and he grabbed me and
00:24:40
he's like
00:24:41
so you you do this every week you know
00:24:44
like it because you know what it's like
00:24:45
when you come in there it's we're
00:24:47
pushing and everything just you know
00:24:50
it's Monday Tuesday whatever working
00:24:51
chaos yeah we do dinner and then we did
00:24:54
in the band and then the promos and then
00:24:55
the thing and everything you go in the
00:24:57
room we eat you know the food on Friday
00:24:59
we hang out everyone you know so
00:25:02
I guess when that's why I believe SNL is
00:25:06
still on you know because there's
00:25:08
nothing else like it and you as a host
00:25:10
and you you come on you're treated no
00:25:14
one in I I maybe if you're shooting a
00:25:17
movie that's Dana you guys would be able
00:25:20
to know I mean isn't don't you think
00:25:22
this is like there's nothing else like
00:25:26
this where you're like running your own
00:25:29
show-ish no there's nothing like
00:25:32
Saturday Night Live nothing that's why
00:25:33
it's the seminal experience for all of
00:25:35
us and uh we're talking to Lauren about
00:25:38
that that because a lot of times you're
00:25:40
getting movie stars or actors or
00:25:42
non-comedians having to suddenly come in
00:25:45
and host a comedy sketch show there's a
00:25:48
reality show aspect so even if Saturday
00:25:50
Night Live has a a dud of a show
00:25:53
I think it's almost more entertaining
00:25:55
than what it kills to see how people
00:25:57
react and everything so
00:25:59
100 the same amount of work goes into
00:26:01
the ones that bomb that's that's like
00:26:04
movies too
00:26:06
Mike Myers being really upset and I get
00:26:09
it that we booked Nancy Kerrigan
00:26:12
and oh like stunt Cassie because she I
00:26:15
hit the leg of the woman yeah it was the
00:26:18
whole
00:26:19
yeah and
00:26:22
um and that was
00:26:25
that was uh uh like you're talking about
00:26:27
sports people that come on I mean
00:26:30
there's that whole group of people
00:26:32
there's a that is that was that happened
00:26:34
before I was there I mean I was but she
00:26:37
by the way you weren't there for Nancy
00:26:38
Kerrigan no I was saying that was my
00:26:40
idea
00:26:42
again and Mike thought it was stunt
00:26:44
casting kind of or well he was right I
00:26:46
mean yeah I heard some grumblings but I
00:26:48
was like well how
00:26:49
you know George Steinbrenner hosted well
00:26:52
how come Kerrigan can't host I don't
00:26:54
understand what's the difference and
00:26:56
that's a bigger stunt that's a New York
00:26:58
stunt specific so maybe that was New
00:27:00
York specific which SNL was very New
00:27:02
York specific I remember when Nancy
00:27:04
Kerrigan was [ __ ] huge and I was kind
00:27:06
of bummed because it wasn't a great show
00:27:07
it was like dice we got a big number and
00:27:10
we just wasn't quite the show we wanted
00:27:12
to show everyone
00:27:13
it's still amazing she showed up and
00:27:16
she's so nice and she that was a very
00:27:20
like I was like wow I can't believe
00:27:23
she's coming here and doing that well
00:27:25
her for her skate scene with Farley
00:27:27
where she was throwing her up in the air
00:27:29
and skating with her and Phil and I were
00:27:31
well that was for anything that was a
00:27:33
really funny sketch that was really
00:27:34
memorable that was so funny I was there
00:27:38
on that shoot I went was that a
00:27:40
Rockefeller Center yeah
00:27:42
it was at Rockefeller Center but then it
00:27:44
was also at like you know Sky rank there
00:27:47
were two I was oh oh my God and I was so
00:27:51
cool I was like can you do a triple act
00:27:54
she was doing things for me just like a
00:27:56
little puppet
00:27:59
when they do it it's crazy how those
00:28:01
yeah there's those giant heavy skates
00:28:03
around
00:28:04
whirling and then land it okay but Chris
00:28:06
could actually skate enough too because
00:28:08
he grew up in Wisconsin right so that
00:28:10
was the funny that's the funniest
00:28:12
surprise of the sketches that he was
00:28:13
actually good yeah yeah and he was
00:28:15
wearing a goofy outfit and then of
00:28:17
course he's falling and he's screaming
00:28:18
and then yeah throws wait a minute Chris
00:28:20
is falling and screaming and it's
00:28:22
hilarious you know that before or after
00:28:25
the Chippendales oh I think it must have
00:28:28
been after because Chippendales was
00:28:30
early on I think Downey said his fourth
00:28:32
or fifth show yep yep yeah that was
00:28:36
great another monster did you have did
00:28:38
you hear any blowback at Chippendales
00:28:41
about he didn't want to do it yeah
00:28:43
there's a big controversy was Chris
00:28:45
being exploited or just being funny and
00:28:47
some some feel one way some feel another
00:28:50
I mean I remember if that he
00:28:56
I don't feel like he felt that way I
00:29:00
don't I don't either get that Vibe
00:29:01
either yeah knew exactly I mean he would
00:29:04
take off his all his clothes to walk
00:29:05
into the rewrites so it's like you know
00:29:08
right
00:29:10
but it was always like it was never
00:29:13
enough if I can say it was never
00:29:14
inappropriate
00:29:16
it was expected it was yeah it was not
00:29:20
you know it didn't feel it wasn't threat
00:29:22
I wasn't I've never felt threatened by
00:29:25
Chris yeah well because he was so he was
00:29:28
enjoying it so much and he was so joyous
00:29:30
about it and so silly and cackling and
00:29:33
he Burst Into The Writer's room naked
00:29:35
kind of with his legs crossed and then
00:29:36
he'd do a prat fall and then he would do
00:29:39
that gutter you know that can you do it
00:29:41
is laugh you know just that was he just
00:29:43
I just had a memory that I I won't say
00:29:47
but I remember walking into his dressing
00:29:50
room like my makeup on eight yeah and he
00:29:54
was like Mercy come in here like okay
00:29:56
you know and then he did something he
00:30:00
did something
00:30:02
you cannot [ __ ] do it yeah I know
00:30:05
sometimes he pushes his wiener in
00:30:07
between and does like the bush shot he
00:30:10
would do that the Silence of the Lambs
00:30:11
he would do that about twice a week in
00:30:14
different parts of this there weren't
00:30:18
that many of us too I mean no it was
00:30:21
like well do you remember this Marcy and
00:30:22
I know we're jumping around of course
00:30:23
but but we never talk about on here
00:30:27
that was such a weird thing that I don't
00:30:30
know if you kept doing but mohunk
00:30:33
we went I was just gonna bring Mohonk up
00:30:37
to you yeah
00:30:38
the The Retreat Because by the way I
00:30:41
planned that was one was that your idea
00:30:43
what Lauren said we're going on a
00:30:46
retreat Lauren and Jim Downey one it's
00:30:49
like a movie treat so and they were like
00:30:52
Marcy you plan it I planned the party I
00:30:55
mean I was like okay I was 22. yeah I've
00:30:58
just gotten there and Aaron I said to
00:31:01
Aaron Aaron moroney Aaron Moroni I was
00:31:04
like you need to help me do that what
00:31:06
are you doing okay five more two
00:31:11
just for a second has there ever been a
00:31:14
retreat before or after
00:31:16
with the whole cast of SNL I never that
00:31:19
was the that was a one-off did you have
00:31:20
more that was the weirdest thing so we
00:31:22
all went to Mohawk all the cast I guess
00:31:24
the writers and and Marcy go on planned
00:31:29
it I guess but we did yeah
00:31:33
fires and then we had like parties and
00:31:35
it was like Camp College yeah um it was
00:31:39
I I actually Lori Joe has photos I I
00:31:42
think it was it was Korea she does those
00:31:45
are crazy we're throwing the football
00:31:47
around yeah there was the football and
00:31:49
then
00:31:50
we all and I was thinking about that
00:31:52
last night I was like God Mohawk didn't
00:31:54
I did it twice
00:31:57
but I remember Lauren Lauren did a some
00:32:00
more demonstration it's the proper way
00:32:02
to make us some more everyone graham
00:32:05
crackers marshmallow and chocolate Marcy
00:32:08
Kevin are you looking Kevin you have to
00:32:10
see it okay smash them together stories
00:32:13
and stuff
00:32:15
probably Lord telling ghost story it's
00:32:18
that thing of like you want to open the
00:32:19
closet door but then again you don't
00:32:21
want to open the closet door and then he
00:32:23
said boo or something like that and
00:32:25
you're running but how about this Norm
00:32:28
said I think Norm was new and he said
00:32:31
that he got there and it was like a big
00:32:33
haunted place like in The Shining or
00:32:35
something it was terrifying together
00:32:36
yeah and every time people talk about
00:32:38
Long Island I go is that where we went
00:32:40
from and you want to know what Mohonk is
00:32:42
and was like New York is it Montauk
00:32:45
we all had haunted experiences I I did a
00:32:48
movie there and I had haunted experience
00:32:50
you guys have some weird Poltergeist
00:32:52
yeah in my room I actually absolutely
00:32:54
had a poltergeist experience
00:32:59
sleep in my room like we were it was
00:33:02
very
00:33:03
big and Gothic and yeah who picked the
00:33:07
hotel
00:33:11
Shelley Duvall it's called Mohawk
00:33:14
Mountain house and there's a place that
00:33:17
someone someone had done got killed at
00:33:20
yeah that was like yeah well Marcy Norm
00:33:24
Macdonald goes he goes when I got there
00:33:26
Farley goes because Norm was new he goes
00:33:28
I have to tell you a secret which is
00:33:31
always a good Farley bit he goes come
00:33:33
here norm and he goes we keep walking
00:33:35
and he goes Norm follow me down here so
00:33:37
they walk farther and he goes then we go
00:33:39
down a hall then we go down to the
00:33:41
basement then he comes in a room and
00:33:42
close the door and he goes what Farley
00:33:44
he goes Pat's a girl
00:33:48
so Chris wanted all that trouble yeah he
00:33:52
went all that way for a bit
00:33:54
it's Pat Uh how funny
00:33:59
Were You There When I had to
00:34:02
um produce sort of like the Mohawk thing
00:34:05
the um Mohegan Sun casino night
00:34:11
that was a separate trip it was your
00:34:14
precious Jimmy Fallon and Tina Fey maybe
00:34:16
yeah
00:34:19
um
00:34:20
that it was I it was Dan Aykroyd not
00:34:24
that I was in the 70s but he they
00:34:27
brought in a bunch of SNL oh former uh
00:34:31
cast members and maybe it was like will
00:34:35
that group I can't remember hmm wow well
00:34:39
there's a whole other kind of version of
00:34:42
Mohonk and but in a casino
00:34:45
I would rather do that I'm so a norm I'm
00:34:48
sure so also we can go anywhere we want
00:34:52
to go but you also were part of like
00:34:54
uh picking cast members they're having a
00:34:56
big influence I was getting to that she
00:34:59
discovered comedy Superstars Molly
00:35:01
Shannon
00:35:03
Tracy Morgan Fallon Seth Meyers Will
00:35:07
Ferrell armison Katan
00:35:10
Daryl Hammond Sarah Silverman
00:35:13
it says Kevin James Kevin James for uh
00:35:17
the mall copy that's so funny because
00:35:19
Kevin James they uh Stephen Colbert
00:35:22
Kevin James were my two I kept saying
00:35:25
why or can't we hire them but Jim and
00:35:26
Lauren that didn't you know didn't
00:35:29
compute well here was um he was the
00:35:32
understudy when I went to Chicago before
00:35:35
like born and everybody would come Mike
00:35:38
Shoemake have you had Mike Shoemaker on
00:35:39
yet no we'd love to shroom taker
00:35:42
um we and I I was there maybe it was
00:35:46
with it was just Mike I think I I
00:35:49
remember whoever I was going to see was
00:35:51
sick and Stephen Colbert it was uh was
00:35:55
the understudy and and I'm like that
00:35:58
guy's really funny it was Steve Carell
00:35:59
and then he understudied Steve yes and
00:36:01
Steve was sick yes look at that
00:36:04
and have you already heard uh I called
00:36:07
him the two stees remember when we put
00:36:08
them on the show in 96 because luckily
00:36:12
SNL passed on them or at least didn't
00:36:15
see them properly because they were
00:36:17
brilliant at what they were doing and
00:36:19
also Bill Hader Maya Rudolph
00:36:23
Jason so who well I don't know here's
00:36:26
like a uh I mean a question that's maybe
00:36:29
Barbara Walters who was the who was the
00:36:32
one you saw like they stepped out he
00:36:34
went holy [ __ ] not only should they be
00:36:36
on SNL they're gonna kick ass yeah who's
00:36:38
a clear star
00:36:41
um wow other than all of them other than
00:36:43
all of them everyone that obviously ends
00:36:46
up on SNL stands out I mean there isn't
00:36:49
anyone you know who there's something
00:36:51
there it's a hard vetting process if you
00:36:53
find your way into the inner sanctum you
00:36:55
got some kind of chops because it's I
00:36:57
mean Jimmy and Seth both like I mean you
00:37:01
know Seth I feel like he had the perfect
00:37:03
audition he just nailed it and he had no
00:37:07
Impressions what does he do
00:37:09
he or did he
00:37:11
um he he had a pretty good year I mean
00:37:13
if he wanted to do an impression I think
00:37:15
he did Hugh Grant I remember because I
00:37:17
remember he does a few I remember that
00:37:19
Ayala had seen him in Chicago and she
00:37:22
said you know he's a great writer that's
00:37:24
what you and I said well he also is he
00:37:26
looks like he could be on TV I mean you
00:37:28
know more so than Annika you know so I
00:37:32
it and I said no we should put him
00:37:35
on like Tina Fey was the same thing
00:37:37
everyone Scott adds it I when I was in
00:37:40
Chicago he's like he's the one who said
00:37:43
Tina Fey is a brilliant genius you know
00:37:48
and Scott adds it is so funny and so
00:37:49
great and and Scott ads at auditioned
00:37:52
for SNL and and didn't end up getting
00:37:56
hired but he kept saying Tina Fey Tina
00:38:00
Fey and and so Tina ended up being hired
00:38:03
as a writer first and then she ended up
00:38:06
becoming a cast member so I mean it you
00:38:08
know I I when I guess hosted the show
00:38:10
the first time you know Lauren always
00:38:11
you'll do church lady so then I was with
00:38:16
um it was Tina was assigned to me so we
00:38:18
did it on and off all week and when she
00:38:20
would write she would do well I'm doing
00:38:22
you know and then when I did it was Seth
00:38:24
later he did the same thing they both
00:38:26
would just do the church lay to me so
00:38:29
um says Tina uh in some ways kind of
00:38:32
reminds me of Steve Martin uh yeah just
00:38:36
totally and the Fountain of writing that
00:38:38
she can do she's kind of shy in a sense
00:38:41
never ending yeah very sweet they can
00:38:44
perform their ass off and the writers
00:38:45
they seem they're good friends right
00:38:47
because they seem like they're brother
00:38:48
and sister or something yeah there are
00:38:50
certain people that I email with every
00:38:53
time they send me an email I laugh out
00:38:55
loud you know yeah
00:38:57
those two
00:38:59
are super funny
00:39:02
um you know they're they're they're
00:39:05
Tina's just she's unbelievably funny
00:39:10
[Music]
00:39:12
what does she come to you and say I want
00:39:14
to do 30 Rock because you're on 30 Rock
00:39:15
right you were you
00:39:17
um no the that
00:39:19
about was they caught they called me in
00:39:22
Lauren was like get Marcy you know I I
00:39:24
came in RC you're just in a special room
00:39:26
waiting for your orders yes
00:39:30
and they're like uh they told me the
00:39:33
idea and they said
00:39:36
um you know we want Alec
00:39:39
in this
00:39:40
and I was like oh that's going to be
00:39:42
interesting to convince them to do a TV
00:39:44
show but then I read the Crypt and T we
00:39:48
I I and you know I think because I was
00:39:50
the Alec
00:39:52
whisper you understood Alec the Alec was
00:39:57
Alec Baldwin yeah and
00:40:00
I actually like I actually when I read
00:40:03
the script I was like this this this is
00:40:04
he's gonna win every award I thought it
00:40:07
was so perfect for him and so funny
00:40:10
um and I had that was my job I was like
00:40:12
I got it so I had to
00:40:16
um convince him to do that also you know
00:40:18
like a lot of people what did you do and
00:40:20
I said well as you know the read through
00:40:22
there are 50 sketches and then they go
00:40:25
down to 13.
00:40:27
and then I have to convince the host
00:40:32
to do them yeah no one else is doing
00:40:35
that job that was my job and that's
00:40:37
difficult right because so much work
00:40:39
it's really difficult because you I feel
00:40:42
protective of the host that's my job I
00:40:44
also have a job which is to make sure
00:40:46
the show runs and Lauren and Jim and you
00:40:49
know Tina Seth you know whoever's show
00:40:53
running it
00:40:54
um we get on I have to look at the big
00:40:57
picture but I also have to make sure
00:40:58
that the publicists and the managers and
00:41:00
the agents and the hosts and the musical
00:41:02
guests all want to come back because I
00:41:04
would always argue you know this we're
00:41:05
inviting them and then we we basically
00:41:08
tell them that they can't we can't
00:41:10
sabotage them
00:41:11
so it's like a like you know it it as
00:41:15
you know you once you become on Monday
00:41:18
and and especially if the host is into
00:41:20
it you know I get I get attached I got
00:41:24
attached to some more than others and
00:41:26
so with Alec
00:41:29
um you know he's so smart and so funny
00:41:31
and so brilliant and when he I I knew
00:41:35
the way to convince him to do that show
00:41:38
and it worked and also I mean it was
00:41:41
just well how did you convince him what
00:41:43
was your strategy well I mean it's just
00:41:44
a pilot it it obviously was so well
00:41:48
written and perfect and also he he had a
00:41:51
lot to do with making that show even
00:41:54
that pilot script I I went over to his
00:41:57
house and I read it with him and I
00:42:00
played the Tina part and he played
00:42:03
and and just kept doing it and
00:42:07
um
00:42:08
you know he didn't want to do to and the
00:42:10
whole thing I kept that whole season it
00:42:12
was negotiating
00:42:14
with Jeff Zucker Mark graboff you know
00:42:16
because he would he just only wanted to
00:42:18
do two episodes or three episodes but
00:42:21
the brilliant thing about Alec was that
00:42:24
he really produced it too I mean he it
00:42:27
was his idea Jane Krakowski he really
00:42:30
fought for her and
00:42:32
he is so funny and he's almost isn't he
00:42:36
almost sort of like a cast member on SNL
00:42:38
yeah I mean I interject a quick thing
00:42:40
and I wonder if you were there Marcy but
00:42:41
it was really struck me when I like
00:42:44
first hosted because he was full movie
00:42:46
star
00:42:47
of course and I remember I was just on
00:42:49
the set with us and we're blocking or
00:42:50
whatever and I guess I kind of said
00:42:52
something effective what do you want to
00:42:53
do and he goes well I want to do this
00:42:55
yes you think I want to be on a
00:42:57
submarine going I I captain the rest of
00:42:59
my [ __ ] life I was like this guy was
00:43:01
a full-blown ready to go give him a
00:43:03
franchise he could be James Bond and he
00:43:07
will they get remember they gave him the
00:43:08
[ __ ] fugitive which is a huge movie
00:43:11
they gave Harrison Tom Clancy submarine
00:43:14
ones who could have done and he fell out
00:43:16
yeah he fell out of fugitive to do a
00:43:18
play so he is like a cast member he's
00:43:20
between a guy who's on the show Con well
00:43:23
yeah he's like a second his own
00:43:25
individual Lane of a castle and I want
00:43:29
to say like 91. I mean it was like RC
00:43:32
was my third show and it was uh it went
00:43:35
Corbin burnson yeah maybe Alec and then
00:43:39
Dice and then Candace Bergen but Alec
00:43:43
was such a star I think you set up a
00:43:47
thing for us to see Hunt for Red October
00:43:48
yes yes and maybe Miami Blues yeah well
00:43:52
then did he because he hosted maybe when
00:43:54
he hosted again he hosted
00:43:56
so that was his first time hosting and
00:43:58
he did Green hilly which I always bring
00:44:00
up I thought was so funny remember he's
00:44:01
kissing everyone like and he did the
00:44:03
mimic and he did yeah and he was so
00:44:06
funny and then he got up for an Emmy for
00:44:07
that and uh that's right and I remember
00:44:09
Dennis Miller in the summer goes Christ
00:44:11
spudley there's no [ __ ] chance you're
00:44:14
up for an Emmy for absolutely no reason
00:44:16
you were the it's your second show your
00:44:18
name's on the credits I go yeah but I'm
00:44:20
up I'm going to the Emmys [ __ ]
00:44:27
you know you you are the Alec horse
00:44:30
whisper I mean and he person Whisperer
00:44:32
anyone Emmys he made a lot of money now
00:44:34
yeah great show
00:44:38
um
00:44:38
the problem with SNL and that show is
00:44:42
that once you've worked on those shows
00:44:45
it's very hard to work on something else
00:44:47
because it just feels like molasses
00:44:49
right so slow and I like it's you know
00:44:53
it it it's
00:44:56
amazing I mean you know the 30 Rock like
00:44:59
those read-throughs were just you were
00:45:02
crying laughing yeah and
00:45:06
um yeah I mean and then it was in a
00:45:08
single camera or a mix with an audience
00:45:10
in single camera or single no audio so
00:45:13
it gets a little another thing Alec used
00:45:15
to say to me just go I know it like it
00:45:18
single camera just go it it
00:45:21
it's like a movie single camera is like
00:45:23
a movie yeah and it was long but what
00:45:26
was nice there were so many people from
00:45:28
SNL that I was doing both jobs I was
00:45:31
going from SNL it was weird because I
00:45:33
think there was a point where
00:45:35
everyone in SNL was like where's Marcy
00:45:38
and everyone at 30 Rock said where's
00:45:39
Marcy like I I was never anyone what
00:45:42
were your titles at that point then it
00:45:44
was executive producer Talent
00:45:46
coordinator executive producer of um 30
00:45:50
Rock which I had to fight for
00:45:53
um your book should be called where's
00:45:54
Marcy
00:45:56
or get get Marcy yeah give me Marcy now
00:46:08
was that was that his second time I was
00:46:11
with him that was one of the most
00:46:12
terrifying heat the plastic
00:46:15
thing and he oh yeah I remember that
00:46:18
story yeah Friday night yeah like they
00:46:20
had to pour oil and take off his face
00:46:22
and I remember the next week it was for
00:46:25
the Jay Lenin just for a second for the
00:46:27
listeners to describe what that is they
00:46:29
put you in a head cast and you breathe
00:46:31
through a straw in your nose it's a life
00:46:33
mask you can't hear see it's all over
00:46:37
your mouth you just have one little
00:46:38
straw in your nose and it can be very
00:46:41
claustrophobic so they they somehow it
00:46:43
was the wrong mix of glue we found out
00:46:44
it wasn't a real plaster or something
00:46:46
it's real plaster but what was crazy
00:46:48
about it was George Mendes remember
00:46:50
George Mendo who sort of had the Lauren
00:46:53
hair you know and he was he was in
00:46:55
charge of you know the studio and I
00:46:58
remember he came up to me
00:47:00
and he was like
00:47:03
I don't know
00:47:05
I remember how scary this is he said
00:47:08
he's like
00:47:10
he's like going on you know again it was
00:47:12
me because I'm the talent person and if
00:47:15
this was like midnight Friday night it's
00:47:17
j it's tumbleweek yeah we need a casket
00:47:20
for uh Jeff Daniels come down but I go
00:47:24
into the makeup room and he's screaming
00:47:28
it was I've never seen it was like I was
00:47:31
like covered in plastic it's still
00:47:34
covered and you can hear him screaming
00:47:37
screaming and kicking and going and
00:47:39
saying yeah that's awesome at me but he
00:47:41
couldn't speak you know
00:47:44
Aaron was outside of Lauren's office and
00:47:47
Jim I was like she's like well they're
00:47:50
in there I'm like I just bursted
00:47:59
Dr Lam happened to be in the rainbow
00:48:01
room I feel like this was an episode on
00:48:03
Thursday unreal should have been 30 Rock
00:48:04
and he was like in a bow tie and then he
00:48:06
came down and anyway it was just you
00:48:09
know it was that I don't know how did
00:48:11
they get it off dude
00:48:13
I think I remember yeah they bent it
00:48:16
back from his forehead and took an
00:48:18
exacto and went down and cut off his
00:48:21
eyebrows and his eyebrows eyelashes hair
00:48:23
and and then it ripped off the pose I
00:48:26
mean it was a whole big thing like what
00:48:28
the [ __ ] happened basically somebody why
00:48:31
was there any was it a sabotage it was
00:48:34
that remember you remember that
00:48:37
because I've never heard of that
00:48:39
happening like how did they get the
00:48:41
wrong mix that the wrong place
00:48:44
you know it I don't know I don't know I
00:48:46
remember Jim Carrey
00:48:49
that was when they said it was the next
00:48:53
week it was Monday and the show you know
00:48:55
it was like yeah nobody cares but also
00:48:57
Jeff Daniels to his credit went through
00:49:00
all that and then did the show the next
00:49:02
day he was unfucking and did great on
00:49:04
the show you can see his eyebrows are
00:49:06
like painted in now they said because I
00:49:08
got a life mask once and I was telling
00:49:10
him and they said you know when I put
00:49:13
the holes in they go we're gonna cover
00:49:16
your ears it's just plaster over your
00:49:17
whole head yeah they go a couple years
00:49:19
cover your mouth come here and they said
00:49:21
when we covered like the third one you
00:49:24
are going to freak out and I said why
00:49:27
they said it's just you can and I said
00:49:28
no I'm very calm I know they go we're
00:49:30
gonna do it very slowly and right when
00:49:32
it covered I go take it off take it off
00:49:33
like it's something about being buried
00:49:35
alive and they said they said if you
00:49:38
cover this don't if you get sick or
00:49:41
throw up you will die because you can't
00:49:43
it has it doesn't know where to go and
00:49:45
all I thought is Jeff Daniels them going
00:49:47
calm down because if he throws up yeah
00:49:50
well yeah he died I had one that didn't
00:49:52
go wrong but they had to do it twice but
00:49:53
the first time I mean I've had many of
00:49:55
them maybe eight or ten in different
00:49:57
situations but they put it on and for
00:49:59
some reason they're they're talking to
00:50:01
each other and all you're hearing is
00:50:03
it sounds like they're panicking so then
00:50:06
they needed to do another one guys just
00:50:08
talk calmly to it because when I hear
00:50:12
you know it's like hand me that hand me
00:50:14
that but yeah it's it's a very uh it's a
00:50:16
real mind [ __ ] it's a meditative thing
00:50:19
to go they're professionals everything's
00:50:21
okay it goes against all your human
00:50:23
instincts wow okay so you had you had a
00:50:25
shoe throw on at your head almost got
00:50:27
blinded yeah you saw a host almost Die
00:50:30
In Your Arms yeah um who are you other
00:50:33
than Alec who are you the closest with
00:50:34
out of all those uh hosts do you still
00:50:37
stay in touch with any of them um I I
00:50:39
actually became close with Gwyneth
00:50:41
Paltrow Renee Zellweger okay
00:50:45
um
00:50:46
uh Jon Hamm because he's cool
00:50:50
obviously because you're seeing them at
00:50:53
at their most real and vulnerable when
00:50:55
they're doing quick changes and they're
00:50:57
exhausted so then you get to know them
00:50:59
and and they're looking for you as a
00:51:00
life raft like Marcy is this normal am I
00:51:02
okay so it's a very fun and you get them
00:51:06
through it I I I feel like I I didn't
00:51:09
when I became a ma uh when I had kids I
00:51:12
was like oh this is like when the hosts
00:51:15
yeah I flew with my kids like their
00:51:17
hosts you know like that's how you're a
00:51:20
parenting style that's perfect so you
00:51:23
know what to do you know with accidents
00:51:25
and er visits when I'm like um actually
00:51:28
they're right you know you like there is
00:51:31
that time between drafts and air when
00:51:33
the host is not in the the meeting and
00:51:37
I'm like ooh that's the host's favorite
00:51:39
sketch and I already see that that's
00:51:41
gonna go yeah then I would fight and say
00:51:45
like you can't do that you know I mean
00:51:46
there there's stuff that goes on that
00:51:49
you know behind right
00:51:51
for the audience you hear the way
00:51:53
everyone has talked about
00:51:55
what you hear how everyone is talked
00:51:57
about in the heat
00:51:59
yeah
00:52:01
I was ever I had entree I could go in
00:52:05
anywhere there wasn't a there wasn't a
00:52:07
place that I was not able to go in and
00:52:09
know what was going on and um
00:52:12
so when you between dress and error
00:52:15
the thing that's always funny is I
00:52:17
always would say to the host on Monday
00:52:19
at the party you are going to say this
00:52:22
is the best week of your life and you're
00:52:24
always me and at the party they're
00:52:27
always like always you were right you
00:52:29
know what I mean everyone reacts the
00:52:32
same way they're full of endorphins full
00:52:34
of like a let's tell them the lessons we
00:52:38
have a huge crowd we have at least 2700
00:52:41
listeners I heard this is a popular
00:52:43
podcast a few people have mentioned us
00:52:48
well when people when the host has a
00:52:51
read through which we talk about a lot
00:52:52
but I think the one we don't really talk
00:52:54
about is from the read through
00:52:56
that everyone everyone breaks all the
00:52:59
writers cast Wednesday now
00:53:02
to dinner yeah yeah Lauren The Host
00:53:06
let's say Lauren Alec uh Downey Smiggle
00:53:09
maybe Franken that's when I was there
00:53:10
would all go in to pick the sketches so
00:53:13
they put them all on a card no no no no
00:53:15
no
00:53:16
first it was Lauren Jim me yeah yeah oh
00:53:20
God and then like it it the host goes in
00:53:23
later there's a
00:53:30
writers and producers are Aston like
00:53:33
Lauren would like to see you and he's
00:53:35
like could you make that sketch shorter
00:53:36
or could you could take out that
00:53:38
entrance so he's producing then what
00:53:40
happened it's dangling yeah and there
00:53:42
was always like a host would always say
00:53:44
like what uh you know I thought I was
00:53:46
gonna do a Wayne's World uh they never
00:53:48
and I'm like and then Shaw yeah there
00:53:51
was always like that thing of uh you
00:53:53
know when Lauren would be someone had to
00:53:55
do a Wayne's you know you'd have to like
00:53:58
oh a host would come in and say I want
00:53:59
to be on blank well there would be that
00:54:01
it would also be the wait what on
00:54:04
Wednesday it was like you know how long
00:54:06
Wednesday is where to that sketch that
00:54:09
they so um that would always be like I'd
00:54:12
have to go and be like uh he's
00:54:14
mentioning this but you know yeah didn't
00:54:16
happen so that there was a pre-meeting
00:54:19
before the meeting oh yeah that's right
00:54:20
and the host gets a vote when he's in
00:54:22
there obviously they're in it so they
00:54:25
say what do you think of this what do
00:54:27
you think of this we thought this would
00:54:28
go up early in the show and then someone
00:54:30
would say like I wrote that one thing
00:54:32
with Tom Hanks subway surfing it wasn't
00:54:34
the greatest but he liked it so they go
00:54:37
that's all negotiations like we'll give
00:54:39
you that right we'll give it a chance
00:54:41
now it's already dangling because it
00:54:44
might go the wrong way and it's not that
00:54:45
strong right and when we did address
00:54:47
here so when Tom was on WE joked about
00:54:50
it because it was bombing we knew in the
00:54:52
middle of what we were looking at each
00:54:53
other going it's over but we gave it
00:54:55
everything and then and then they just
00:54:57
move it to the other side of the board
00:54:59
when you walk in and you go it didn't I
00:55:00
know everyone we're not even gonna
00:55:02
discuss it everyone comes in at 11 10.
00:55:04
the show starts in 20 minutes there's 60
00:55:07
of us and Lauren's office so you come in
00:55:09
and you look at the board and you look
00:55:11
what's off off the board still the card
00:55:14
is up there but you you had to be the
00:55:16
bearer of either good news or bad news
00:55:18
all week with a host
00:55:20
and did you have a tactic with that
00:55:22
you'd say but this is in you've soften
00:55:25
them first and this is going great this
00:55:27
one probably I think is cut or how did
00:55:30
you I guess you're skilled at that
00:55:32
um I think that you I I
00:55:37
I I was so much a part of the week and
00:55:39
especially with Jim
00:55:41
you know I kind of I I knew where we
00:55:45
were headed and also I feel like I'm
00:55:48
maybe I'm too honest and I would never
00:55:52
lied to a host unless
00:55:55
I I just I don't I'm trying to think of
00:55:57
there must have been times where I'm
00:55:59
like okay I have to
00:56:01
um convince them to do right like Lauren
00:56:03
might say to me go in and find out it's
00:56:06
fly on the wall or fly on the window you
00:56:10
know like which one is it and um
00:56:13
uh I would I I I think
00:56:18
that those were times where I don't know
00:56:21
I think I'm just direct and straight I
00:56:23
don't think you would lie because
00:56:24
there's no it's gonna bite you an ass
00:56:26
later because they're gonna figure it
00:56:27
out dang and also
00:56:29
um well I think Marcia I'm gonna
00:56:30
interject this you were very popular
00:56:36
they're fun to have dinner with or talk
00:56:37
and you could be blunt and you could be
00:56:39
just honest and so I think you had a
00:56:42
good skill set for that particular part
00:56:45
of your resume on Saturday life of
00:56:47
dealing with vulnerable people but I I
00:56:50
still once someone is a host and you see
00:56:53
them later out in the real world there
00:56:55
is just a bonding there they're a huge
00:56:58
one I know I always said like it's
00:56:59
amazing and you're just talking about
00:57:01
Tom Hanks but um even people that
00:57:06
you know I mean they know you both
00:57:09
you're famous but I I see people whether
00:57:12
it's the Golden Globes or on the street
00:57:14
Marcy like they I recently went to a
00:57:18
thing a like a screening for Nicole
00:57:22
Kidman uh the I Love Lucy and she did
00:57:25
the oh yeah yeah
00:57:27
[ __ ] up to her I brought Mary Ellen
00:57:28
with me the photographer at SNL who's a
00:57:31
good friend of mine and I I walked up to
00:57:33
Nicole I hadn't seen her in a really
00:57:34
long time and I said I I said I don't
00:57:36
know if you remember me she's like of
00:57:37
course I remember you
00:57:39
he said that week you got me through
00:57:42
that week I mean I could not believe
00:57:44
that she remembered me but I think for
00:57:47
hosts that that week is [ __ ] intense
00:57:50
yeah well we no it's [ __ ] intense
00:57:53
It's [ __ ] amazing these [ __ ]
00:57:55
come in like they're the top of the mark
00:57:58
and we gotta but it is amazing to be a
00:58:01
part of all of it and know how the whole
00:58:04
thing works you know I'll say that and
00:58:07
David will back me up in the very first
00:58:10
even before we started our first podcast
00:58:12
just aggregating uh people to come on
00:58:16
this show and you were one of the first
00:58:19
that popped in my head like well Marcy
00:58:21
Klein because she's she's connected yeah
00:58:23
yeah you'll you know by by so many uh
00:58:26
such situations that everything it's in
00:58:30
it from when I was there I mean who got
00:58:32
to work with them us then Will Ferrell
00:58:35
you got to see the switching from Dana
00:58:36
and all those guys to all of us and then
00:58:39
Will Ferrell Tina and Jimmy well you
00:58:42
guys it was weird because when it was so
00:58:44
much smaller and and I was so close with
00:58:48
all of you and then you guys left and
00:58:50
then like Norman Laurie Joe and Jim like
00:58:53
everyone was leaving and I'm like oh God
00:58:56
and then I'm in my 30s then I was in my
00:58:58
40s and I'm like every it but then all
00:59:02
my friends live in L.A you know it's I
00:59:05
miss and there's 25 cast and you're like
00:59:06
I don't even think I've met anyone
00:59:07
everyone this year so you're as close to
00:59:10
like Lauren you know it's 45 years of
00:59:12
being a teacher in school and then his
00:59:15
former classmates go and he sees them
00:59:16
around campus you know and so you had uh
00:59:19
your own experience with that like well
00:59:21
now I'm in the Will Ferrell or here's
00:59:23
Anna gasteyer you know now it's Bill
00:59:25
Hader you met me when I was like doing
00:59:28
everything and then I became in charge
00:59:30
and that's a whole other
00:59:33
thing and like we were talking about
00:59:36
Farley and I remember when he hosted and
00:59:40
I had to call everyone I knew things
00:59:44
were bad I mean you know I just was like
00:59:49
he could
00:59:50
not make it through this and
00:59:53
everyone was so excited he was there and
00:59:56
I remember Tracy Morgan and Jim Brewer
01:00:00
were they were they um they I think they
01:00:03
shared an office
01:00:04
and everyone was like it was a Tuesday
01:00:08
night and Farley wanted to go out and I
01:00:12
called the entire cast into the talent
01:00:14
Department
01:00:16
and I said
01:00:18
you cannot go out with him
01:00:20
you you cannot I just knew something bad
01:00:23
was gonna happen and
01:00:25
um
01:00:26
they there was I felt more like a mom
01:00:29
like I don't feel like you you guys
01:00:31
didn't know me in that role you know I'm
01:00:34
younger I feel like but then I became
01:00:36
the mom of everyone well you're like one
01:00:38
of us we're all around the same age
01:00:40
we're all younger jumping around the
01:00:42
interns you know I'd be like they can't
01:00:43
come to the party
01:00:44
[Laughter]
01:00:48
I remember getting that little ticket
01:00:50
like you would slip all of us that said
01:00:52
where the party was and then during the
01:00:55
show the party and then I would see
01:00:57
people like Dana's table and yeah you
01:00:59
have to have like someone in my office
01:01:01
and like find out how many people David
01:01:02
has is right he's gonna sit with Spade
01:01:06
with Sandler and they can have a plus
01:01:07
one each and then Four Tops all hang out
01:01:10
and then you know and then it it running
01:01:13
a party at one in the morning and I know
01:01:17
nothing about running but then
01:01:18
eventually everyone was so nice and
01:01:20
that's a thing like everyone is
01:01:21
supportive of each other so no one ever
01:01:24
got mad where's my table you know what I
01:01:26
mean there was nothing and the party
01:01:27
would kind of get up and running like at
01:01:29
2 A.M because the good nights were at
01:01:31
1am we are getting the cars maybe it's
01:01:33
during the winter so it's like starting
01:01:35
a party at 2 and when was the last time
01:01:37
you started a party at 2 A.M after a
01:01:39
13-hour work day I don't go out after
01:01:42
nine that's why I left I couldn't I
01:01:44
never saw my kids like on day I was
01:01:47
completely out yeah
01:01:50
it's like jet Lake it's like it totally
01:01:53
like jet lag yeah and you're just and
01:01:55
I'm still recovering as Jim Downey's
01:01:58
like he's still recovering on those days
01:02:01
covering from the 15th anniversary I'm
01:02:04
still
01:02:05
I remember that one
01:02:09
[Music]
01:02:12
the 15th what about the 40th now the
01:02:16
50th are you going you think the fifth
01:02:18
that's going to happen the 50th
01:02:21
seems surreal why not no hunk all right
01:02:27
we better wrap it up with her Dana this
01:02:28
went faster than we thought Marcy thank
01:02:31
you I love you guys I miss you when
01:02:33
you're we could do it tomorrow and Jimmy
01:02:37
Fallon there's a
01:02:38
there's some thing like some screening
01:02:41
of his uh
01:02:43
Sandler remembers me he will he's on the
01:02:46
road right now doing gigs why do you
01:02:48
mean I'm not gonna remember you sorry Hi
01:02:51
Rocky Pete all right Pete Marcy Klein
01:02:55
yeah this is uh well season three we're
01:02:58
having you back because there's too many
01:03:00
stories but uh yeah it's uh it's so so
01:03:03
much fun to chat she's the glue look us
01:03:06
up when you're in La we'll go to that
01:03:08
crazy restaurant that you put your phone
01:03:10
in a satchel and be there for seven
01:03:12
hours and this time Faye Dunaway better
01:03:15
show up
01:03:17
hi all right bye guys
01:03:21
hey what's up flies what's up please
01:03:23
what's up people that listen we want to
01:03:24
hear from you and your dumb questions
01:03:26
questions ask us anything anything you
01:03:29
want you can email us at fly on the wall
01:03:31
at cadence13.com
01:03:35
we're gonna do a q a question I gotta
01:03:38
first say my code is [ __ ] off the
01:03:40
hook
01:03:41
if I may be so present with myself Sears
01:03:45
still had a boys Department
01:03:48
I'm sorry that's the code is the word
01:03:52
bumpin has been thrown around
01:03:54
[ __ ] ridiculously almost 17. cooler
01:03:58
than [ __ ] pie but I don't want to talk
01:04:00
about I don't want to over talk about
01:04:01
what color do you call that you know
01:04:02
it's a great question yeah taupe
01:04:05
is it taupe I don't think so I said
01:04:07
Olive and then I said gray as an olive
01:04:10
taupe yeah and it's got a diametric you
01:04:13
can't buy this you can't buy that shape
01:04:15
you can live on the moon with it yeah
01:04:18
that's why I should go very astronauty
01:04:20
to me
01:04:22
thanks your nickname is Buzz Spade
01:04:26
Buzz plywood that's my porn name buzzed
01:04:29
space neat
01:04:33
hello these guys rat tattoo he had on ah
01:04:37
I like that I want to tell you about
01:04:39
that yeah don't tell an Accenture that's
01:04:43
a good color all right get your
01:04:44
questions here Dan Arena I'm gonna read
01:04:46
a question Simon f
01:04:49
Etherington hi Dana and David the show
01:04:51
is great
01:04:52
Can't Get Enough
01:04:54
we always add that I listen to the
01:04:57
entire hey this is in your hand right I
01:05:00
listen to the entire Farley tribute
01:05:03
twice that's nice all nine hours it
01:05:05
seems like when you get to SNL you get a
01:05:07
wooden desk a yellow legal pattern
01:05:08
Bernie Brewster manager how is that
01:05:11
seemingly everyone on the show ended up
01:05:14
with Bernie as their manager or am I
01:05:16
just imagining that he was everyone's
01:05:19
manager maybe you could give a little
01:05:21
more insight into that it's a rocket
01:05:23
into a house so many cast members ended
01:05:26
up working also Sharon
01:05:29
ethic and Lawrence with Bernie so what
01:05:32
it was I think at the beginning you
01:05:34
would know more Dana he had a management
01:05:35
company Sharon ether Simon oh [ __ ] okay
01:05:39
boy glasses on excuse me where are you
01:05:42
cheaters excuse me I should never drink
01:05:45
before these I'm gonna go to writing
01:05:46
Simon Etherington so Bernie Simon was
01:05:51
enough of Simon [ __ ] that yeah but that
01:05:53
was the guy who wrote us the question I
01:05:54
know I don't care about him anymore uh
01:06:00
all your rage is coming out uh Bernie
01:06:05
handled Belushi Aykroyd Lauren
01:06:09
it's so funny to handle both sides of
01:06:10
the table Bernie was an old-timey
01:06:12
manager he was probably when I met him
01:06:14
like 41. he seemed like he was 70 and
01:06:17
then when he was 70. he seemed seven he
01:06:19
looked like Santa Claus you look exactly
01:06:20
like Santa Claus literally white hair
01:06:21
and he did manage all the original casts
01:06:24
he just got in there and I think Lauren
01:06:26
was the first client and then everyone
01:06:28
went with Bernie and then by the time I
01:06:31
came along Bernie had hired Brad gray
01:06:33
and Mark gurvis
01:06:37
and we had Sandy Warnick in there and
01:06:42
um brillston company is a company you'll
01:06:44
hear about a lot he has so many SNL
01:06:46
people you're right are connected to it
01:06:47
me Sandler Dana Kevin Neal and Dennis
01:06:51
Miller
01:06:52
Norm Farley Love it's uh Schneider for a
01:06:56
while
01:06:58
who is that Bill Maher Ed O'Neill Bill
01:07:00
more I don't know yeah a lot of SNL
01:07:02
people a lot of just famous people but
01:07:03
uh they always had sort of a monopoly on
01:07:07
SNL which is great because they know
01:07:09
Lauren so well they know the
01:07:11
negotiations so well they know it became
01:07:13
a farm league ecosystem When Brad or
01:07:16
Bernie would say I think this guy could
01:07:18
be good because he talked like that yeah
01:07:19
and then they'd sign you and then now
01:07:21
they're gonna it's all it's beneficial
01:07:23
for everybody and Bernie was just a
01:07:25
taste of old Showbiz like I said he had
01:07:27
a big voice and a lot of people do
01:07:29
better impressions of them than me but
01:07:31
he's Sandler used to call people from
01:07:33
our office we'd answer fan mail and he'd
01:07:36
just call as Bernie and talk to someone
01:07:39
some kid as Bernie this is Bernie Adams
01:07:42
manager and uh we just answer fan mail
01:07:45
and when we're bored and just call the
01:07:47
number and ask for
01:07:49
some kid and then talk to him he was one
01:07:51
of those guys he leaned into me when he
01:07:53
first met me he goes you got a face for
01:07:55
television
01:07:57
a face for television yeah you do yeah I
01:08:00
don't know I had a Disney face for a
01:08:01
while before life beat this [ __ ] well
01:08:03
you have you ever described as true
01:08:04
Rubik that's what I was gonna say whoa
01:08:07
uh uh oh don't we do a thing Abracadabra
01:08:11
legally carded by a mentally healthy
01:08:15
person
01:08:16
to buy a beer at age 53. I got carded
01:08:20
honestly I told you this Heather
01:08:22
a month like it was where was it was it
01:08:25
my own show or something
01:08:27
I went somewhere and they go no it was
01:08:29
that it was a Chili's she goes I gave my
01:08:33
credit card no I ordered a drink
01:08:36
because I have a problem well you don't
01:08:38
know her drinks too much come on fans
01:08:40
listen I had to because it was night
01:08:41
time okay so Simon's so she goes I know
01:08:45
who you are and I'm a huge fan but I
01:08:47
have to see your ID
01:08:49
why I don't understand so I gave it to
01:08:52
her and she was
01:08:53
some quick maths carry the four and then
01:08:56
she goes
01:08:58
okay
01:08:59
why did we do that what if she was like
01:09:02
so you weren't in grown-ups when you
01:09:04
were
01:09:05
one what a 90 year old man get carded at
01:09:10
a liquor store
01:09:12
it's like literally I can't even see it
01:09:16
we have to
01:09:19
even with the fuzz on the chin they tag
01:09:22
you I go you okay with this
01:09:24
light a match
01:09:28
all right well is that how did we answer
01:09:30
that I don't know why the question is
01:09:31
not Bernie are you real estate great guy
01:09:33
everyone it was an ecosystem of farm
01:09:35
league team of being with pearlstein has
01:09:38
a book out if you want to read it and
01:09:39
it's very interesting about all that
01:09:40
stuff yeah he has his own book out great
01:09:42
guy Bernie thank you for the question
01:09:44
thank you Simon
01:09:47
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