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Molly Shannon | Full Episode | Fly on the Wall with Dana Carvey and David Spade

October 07, 2022 / 01:13:27

This episode features comedian Molly Shannon discussing her career, experiences on Saturday Night Live, and her new show, "I Love That For You." Topics include her journey from waitress to comedian, the challenges of auditions, and her unique characters.

Molly Shannon shares insights about her time on SNL, including her physical comedy style and the evolution of her character Mary Catherine Gallagher. She reflects on the supportive environment created by Lorne Michaels and her experiences with fellow cast members.

The conversation touches on the struggles of auditioning in Hollywood, the emotional toll of rejection, and how her upbringing shaped her comedic voice. Shannon discusses her new show, which is inspired by her childhood and her love for home shopping networks.

Throughout the episode, Shannon's humor shines as she recounts her experiences and the importance of resilience in the entertainment industry. She also shares personal anecdotes about her family and the impact of her mother's support on her career.

The episode concludes with lighthearted banter between Shannon and hosts Dana Carvey and David Spade, highlighting their camaraderie and shared experiences in comedy.

TL;DR

Molly Shannon discusses her SNL career, new show, and the challenges of Hollywood auditions.

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so Dana when I was on the road and people have you ever been to a CVS or
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something and and my bill was like 496 and they go round up for Ukraine and
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then everyone in their line was like this what is he rounding up for Ukraine I go oh rounding up for Ukraine oh that's
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funny Ukraine they just say it like that and I go oh and then I go I guess and I go no
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and then the whole line freezes David's fate doesn't round up for Ukraine I go well where is it going you're taking my
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four cents in like a fanny pack in the Ukraine you throw it over the wall I mean I don't know I find an avocado it
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used to be like would you like to would you like to help the children I'm like how are you supposed to answer that I
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know uh not today do you hate kids why do they need so much help I mean honestly today I don't think so so you
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know you want to Ukraine it up and you don't know what's going on and you don't know where it's going and I want to ask
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questions and this is just my two cents really it was four cents but they go so no rounding up for Ukraine I'm like well
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I like Ukraine everyone's like doesn't like Ukraine's once Russian went and I
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go no no I'm just saying four cents I'm rounding up but is the where does it go
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oh they're always trying to hit you at grocery stores I remember give a nickel for Mr Pickle I don't even know what it
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meant it was Mr Pickle I'm just trying to buy an avocado yeah
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give it taller give a dollar let's all hauler remember that one yeah I mean there's so many point-of-purchase things
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you just sort of go do you want to donate and you're right you're just not sure where the money's going Molly
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Shannon is um the thing about Molly Shannon s-h-a I thought it was one end
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for about 20 years but it's two ends why would it be one I just just fancy talk I'm just spit boxing good luck on Wheels
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Shannon has a cool name let's put it that way and she has a bestseller book out hello Molly Molly I don't know why
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she came up with that Titleist people to talk to and she's so interesting you know she was at Norm's uh Memorial
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recently and uh she spoke very articulate very
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interesting the way she puts things she's not always like diving for the jokes like me she's uh she's not so
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thirsty like that she's just very thought out very authentic person yeah she has a drive funny sense of humor
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when I've run into her over the years with instantly laughing because I remember telling everyone she hadn't
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seen her in years they go should we try to get famous again and she immediately thought that was fun laughing yeah trying to get famous but good audience
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she's so sweet talented that she's always working and she's in our friend Vanessa Bayer's show and the title is
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good on Showtime yeah what's the title of it's it's one of those called it's kind of a condescending title I love
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that for you I'd love that for you yeah or it yeah so Molly Shannon is um
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obviously one of the all-time great performers Superstar ain't got a movie with a character or cheerleader one of
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the SNL movies brilliant physical Comics she used to throw herself around on that show yeah she was doing like Charlie
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like Maneuvers she was really she really was hurting herself steel chairs not fake ones like steel folding chairs yeah
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she's dive into them yeah Lauren would swing a bat at her just for practice on 8h but I'll just go higher go lower and
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she would Dodge it you know those drills they used to do you won't catch Spade diving in anything but styrofoam I won't
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even do that I don't do anything I broke my ankle on a movie and I broke
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my shoulder on Saturday Night Live grade three separation actually and it still hurts
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all right all right guys here it is Molly Molly Shannon enjoy [Music]
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that's amazing this is such a great idea congratulations guys thank you Molly and um you know Molly uh a bunch of high
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school friends and I chipped in and we bought a Bitcoin so I'll let you know how that goes okay great I like how
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we're very quiet yes I have a card you know I like when people talk this way like sometimes if I call you like if if
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a fan comes up and it's like I just wanted to say that you know I'm like uh I feel so relaxed by your voice so I'll
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keep talking to them if I like the voice I think I relate that to you because
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maybe you talk like that in sketch or something or maybe we've talked about AR that's where you talk I've talked about
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this on interviews but I actually have something called this ASMR for real which is like a type of response to
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certain voices where you feel really relaxed so and it's not it it's it's
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real I've had it since I was a kid so store the game that we used to play David is kind of based on that but it is
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really real like if a certain if I asked Like a Stranger for directions and say they had a certain voice where they're
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like okay let me just get the map and then they touch the map and they have a certain type of voice that puts me in a
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very relaxed state so is it like zelic Woody Allen that you start to become like hi Molly I'm just a really big fan
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of you go thank you so much I love that she just keeps asking for directions no it's not like that I love that for you
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it would it's a feeling of like it feels almost like getting a massage it's like Ugh it's like when you were a kid and
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people would read you stories if you got the right voice to read your story that's what you wanted yeah some
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teachers had it sometimes that's cute things when we do go to sleep you know when you're little yeah you just go lock
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into it you go it's the best you would read the story and I'm in
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second grade and the teacher was like 25 and had like 911 stalking things on in a short dress I was just sort of it made
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you feel funny oh boy it made me feel funny like when I used to climb the rope and gym class where that came from
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anyway I don't know where I went there but wait wait wait so you're saying that she would have stockings on well it's
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just that first time I'd seen an adult woman and they they were very beautiful they were second grade teachers it's the
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60s anyone could be a teacher now and they're pretty young women and they would have just a normal skirt on and
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crossing and uncrossing their legs and I'm seven eight or nine I just sort of got a little tingly you start noticing
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women and you go oh I like this and then they're not doing anything wrong and everything is sexual to you yeah they're
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just really not sweet they're just living their life and you're like whoa so she's walking that's great it's like
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when you love the fell in love with the Lifeguard remember in seventh grade I
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just made this up you know what I mean I was like there's so much in her book and it's the only thing that isn't in her book about the Lifeguard I have a
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question from Molly about your book okay great David you worked at Cravings is that in some
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deposit right here yes it's right near here is it still here uh no it closed down that was here forever it was here
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forever the best grilled lemon chicken salad and really good pastas I worked there for about four and a half years
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I read all that part of your book and then I started in the beginning this morning it's really compelling thanks it
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wasn't like oh we get a book we gotta okay what Dana this one was like very
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well written thing because I wanted to ask how old were you and how long did you go at cravings and when did you leave Cravings how old were you oh
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that's the only thing I did yes I worked at cravings for four and a half years and um I I got Saturday Night Live when I
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was 30. so but I had left Cravings I think a couple years before that so from 23 and a half to 28 something like that
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yeah about about like that yeah but we had fun it was like it was a good he uh Ibrahim our boss hired really good
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people so we would have parties at night and dinners we had a blast working there that's right in that strip where you can
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sit on the street at Sunset right yeah now it said here um that you were was it
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improv and you would call people to come to your shows like a bringer show like you say is that true
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you you made a bunch of phone calls it said like 500 to get 200 people to show up yeah I would use um I was it was
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before email so I would um tell my customers oh I do this comedy show on the road we've got to come see my show
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what's your name and they're like oh Ben I'm like oh what's your girlfriend's name Melissa okay better Melissa give me your number so then when I did a show in
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Santa Monica I would pack the house with like 200 people and I would just invite one industry person per show and make it
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like this hot show but really I was calling everyone myself like hi Ben I met you at Cravings can you and your
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girlfriend Melissa come to my show yes okay great and I would make all these calls and when I got Saturday Night Live I took that box of name and phone
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numbers that I'd say from all my waitressing days and threw it in the dumpster because I didn't have to call anyone anymore to invite them to my show
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that's nice it's not very dramatic
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no I I didn't let it on fire but it was dramatic in that I took that box and I
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was like you know all the little papers went flying by the way it works cool all that work paid off
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yeah you got Marcy who now where did Marcy see you Marcy Klein Talent coordinator for SNL Marcy Klein came
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flew out thank you so much thank you oh okay
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almond milk get it I gotta get some biscottis coffee and an Ellen mug yes with almond
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milk that's so nice um it doesn't matter I Marcy Klein came out
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to see my stage show the Saturday Night Live producer management well she wasn't a town
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manager but she was in charge of talent or something I heard we had a couple of headings Marcy yeah she was the um
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producer Talent coordinator but she came out to LA and saw my show and loved it and then she was like I'm bringing it to
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New York to audition for Saturday Night Live so yes Marcy was a big part of all
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that because yeah she was there when I was there she was in on my audition she wasn't on yours probably huh nope whoa
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no yes she was at Dana's audition go ahead okay this is a 30 second story about me okay uh I was on SNL I played
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Brown University wow and uh there was a woman in front that was kind of heckling
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me or friendly or whatever and she had gigantic hair so I did a comedian's trigger calling her big hair woman that
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became a runner it's an old comedian so hey bigger woman what do you think yeah so it ends up that was Marcy Klein and
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then Marcy the year next year comes to SNL I remember from Brown University so
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when we have her on this podcast I'll I'll call her big hair woman she has an incredible idea
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was that your audition well that was I did it in Santa Monica as well a little
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club called igbies and Rosie O'Donnell was playing there and I had to ask her I
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didn't even know Rosie O'Donnell she seemed like the most confident person I ever met yeah could I lean in on your
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show and I'm gonna bring Lauren Michaels and then she said okay a and we flipped the coin I went on first but Lauren
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walked in Brandon tartikoff head of the network I go God I'm getting really nervous and then Cher settled in so that
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was my Trio three shot here's your life I if I didn't make it that night I I
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think I'd be working it what was the carries Carney's where'd you work cravings
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so I could work there and how many minutes did you have Dana I I was actually doing the stand-up thing route
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so I had an hour hour 10 of stand up amazing you would audition Into The Comedy Store and you do five minutes
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what isn't that special get off it didn't work I bombed every time I
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followed Kennison Once Dead Silence so this time that's 45 in a real Club yeah
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and I was just scared out of my mind when when Marcy saw you did you how was
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your nerve level at that point with your act did you were you getting really confident or a little were you nervous
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when Marcy was there or she you didn't know who she was let's see she came to my yeah so she flew out and came to see
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my stage show which was about an hour the robin Molly show and I was definitely nervous I was well I was very
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excited that we got her whoops that we got her to come see my show so I was just thrilled so we kind of I had kind
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of taken off a year from doing the shows because I was like I just I don't know if I have the heart to stay in this business so really a year before that I
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really thought I might quit because then become a real estate agent or I don't know I I but then I heard Marcy was
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coming to town so I whipped together a chauffeur at the last minute and I paid for the band and asked my partner Rob I
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said do you mind could you do one more show please and I'll take care of everything I'll invite everyone I'll just is all you have to do is show up
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and he said okay so I was just really just excited that she was there and it was a great feeling in the audience and
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um so but yes I'm sure I was nervous but then for my actual audition flying to
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New York I had five minutes at stand up New York with um and I got to do characters and uh let's see I'm trying
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to think yeah so that I was definitely very very nervous I didn't understand though well I'm just interested you know
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if anyone's hearing this and they're like at a theater group in high school or something yeah that you probably
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Shannon was thinking maybe I gonna quit maybe I'm not gonna do this yeah of
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course and then 18 months later or something you know a talent coordinator from SNL and then you're on your way so
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yeah um we had reinforcing mechanisms being stand-ups that's how I made a living so
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I couldn't quit but I I quit several times uh in college I mean I bombed so bad so how did you deal with that were
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you did you feel like you went into kind of a depression um I wasn't like I never really got
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depressed for a long period of time but I remember I had an audition
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um on a lot in the valley I forgot if it was CBS Radford and I remember not being
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asked to stay it was one of those things where you could see the girls who were that were going to say we're going to go straight to producers at five o'clock
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you kind of know whenever they hang around and they hang around you kind of know how you say you can go thank you yeah and you get to know the girls on
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the circuit kind of the comedy girls or Grandma's girls and I went and did my thing and they were just like thank you
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Molly you know like next and uh get out of the room and you could see the girls who were being asked to stay
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and I was just like bye everyone good luck my heart melted you know crushed
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and I went out to the parking lot and I saw this great actress named Catherine
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linassa and she's just so lovely and she she was like what were you auditioning for and I I think I forget what it was
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but she was just so casual and I remember she was like doing stretches by her car
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like ballet and stretching her leg and I was like oh I wish I could be easy breezy like Catherine manasa not caring
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and and I was feeling dark like oh this is so so much rejection and I think I'll
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just go to Gelson's and get a half a chicken and go home
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that sounds delicious delicious yeah and that is what I did but um I just in that
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moment was like I don't think I have the heart for this anymore this is just too hard so much rejection and yeah so um that's when I
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gave up for a year I would be sitting in auditions and it's so depressing with Brad Pitt next to me and going like are
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you reading for hunk also uh well let's see who gets it uh let's say friends
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after though if I get it anyway I read for Paul Newman and Joanne Woodward did
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you really they gave me a scene partner and I sucked you've seen my movies I mean I don't know what I was doing so
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Paul Evans there and I'm in awe coolant Luke yeah and he had these red socks on and John Woodward had a little dog and I
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just got confused but I'm with a scene partner and she was really good but we just [ __ ] it and we went outside the
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room and go man that went bad she was you [ __ ] me man oh no and Robbie Benson got the part Robbie if you're
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listening Harry and Tonto was called Robbie Benson
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is a badass actor but yeah I feel bad that I took her down with me
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I apologize to Sherry o'tara years later were you just cold reading the scene
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yeah you'd get it and you'd have you'd hold the script and you had a few minutes to look over it I was a terror
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were you a good audition or do you think and just had bad luck or were you I would see I think well what about what
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about you so I can't imagine you messing that up Dana um I was terrified of acting I was good
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like doing my own comedy yeah but to me actors were it was I never took any acting lessons I never did any theater
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group so I was like what I gotta sound like someone else it seems very easy now to me like I could really act good now
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yeah but I'm a little late to the game you know sometimes people look down on
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you like if they hear your stand up or maybe I'm proud if you're with with actor actors and I've been in auditions
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and they go to your stand-up and I go yeah and I see them going oh boy like they know they think you're already
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they're already winning and they kind of are because it is harder yeah I had I
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thought I was so naturally good and I heard Eddie Murphy never took a class when I moved out here I got some
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auditions right away because I was like blonde I was 20. I looked 15 and then I was like I'm so naturally funny so I
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didn't know what I was doing but I'm just like reading and I was then they're like he's horrible like there's just go he doesn't know what he's doing and I go
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huh no I'm naturally gifted and I wasn't and then I had to do two years of class
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because they wouldn't bring me back for auditions they said he's too green and it was such all my heat went away I got
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to town I had some heat yeah and then it went away and then two years later I'd start again from scratch I was like I
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know a little more like I didn't know how to hold the size you know look up or look down yeah and you just need to have a little confidence to go in front of an
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acting teach teachers say when you walk in do you do this and she goes no that's a red flag like so then I just learned
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oh so if I just go and I don't do these things at least I'm in the mix I read for Brandon tartikoff did you and right
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before I was going to give me a holding deal it's already all set and I walked in and this [ __ ] Dennis somebody head of casting I'm in the waiting room
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I got a coach I went over my [ __ ] size I didn't know what I was doing and he walks and he goes oh I think we're gonna do these oh and he switched it out
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of my hand put in and everything he goes and I go this is a new scene they go yeah they go ready for you and I go no
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no I didn't have the balls to go give me a second I walked in I just read it off the page and they go thank you and I go
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in my manager girls how'd you [ __ ] that up oh what do you mean he goes there's no development deal he he said you're
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too green I go well they did the old Switcheroo on me he goes oh well No One's Gonna remember that part I've read
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a lot of scene with Lynn stallmaster right yeah Lynn stallmaster yeah but it
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was just me and him alone and reading I'm with this guy in a room and the
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lights are down I care about you so much don't you understand yeah well I like
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you too hi my name's Judy as you know you know I mean it's like so it's so
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hard to talk about ourselves
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[Music] wait I hope that's going Christian David how old were you when you came to town
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twenty twenty no he looked 15. but you could I tried to audition uh with your
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uh I had a box of props gross and I and I waited
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I knew what's funny I had a Batman sweatshirt on this sort of signal I liked comedy like this is kind of like
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that's a good idea but I was like I'm kind of funny already right it was just a bat I was like yeah
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I know you got something going on that's funny and so I got and then and then Dana you might have done this day go
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every three minutes they pull it out of a hat but I think it's all rigged because it's even worse because you
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don't get sickened by your audition every three minutes you're sick because they go is this it hey Jim squagmire
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nope nope got three more minutes and then every that's all until midnight then they go just go home well that's it
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folks and I was like oh I never got picked so I gave up again for a year and then I came back to LA everyone quit try
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it again everyone quit it's just the way it happens yeah I want to hear what happened when you walked into audition room because when I walked into it and
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I'd see all these versions of myself yeah like really young auditions for the same time men with no chins and just so
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I'm not
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[Music] I mean I definitely when I started to
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get further along there were definitely like you know you probably opposite audition opposite Groundlings girls like
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really talented kind of that those really fantastic comedy girls
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um but before that no I don't think so but I would usually audition for like the best friend or whatever when did you
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get really when did you kind of or did you always have it because I was reading your book last night but I just your internal confidence I'm always
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fascinated by that where is it because I would say mine would go up and down do you have do you have I mean is there
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there's a Molly in there that goes [ __ ] these people I'm [ __ ] great right yeah get out of my way you know or or
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how do you process your talent and and what happened to you how do you probably or is it just surreal to you um I think
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sometimes if I felt like I remember auditioning for commercial and I was was
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a waitress at the time I didn't have a lot of money but they were just like kind of rude these like producer writers
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were all there and kind of blaming the actors and no no you know and uh I was
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just like and all these really cool actors were auditioning and and then I went and did it and I think they weren't
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really paying attention and they're just like acting disinterested and they were
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making everybody wait for a really long time and uh I then I think when I was
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finished I said you know the problem you have is the writing the actors are all really good these people tell you you got to fix your script this writing is
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not good a good one because I was just like well I I just I so I could be tough that way
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um and just not care if I knew that something was right I would get I think
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sometimes that's a good you know sometimes if you feel angry that can be healthy you know standing up
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for yourself so you definitely did stuff like that where I was like I don't give a [ __ ] you know because they start treating you so shitty sometimes
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they don't even look up they don't do anything they know they're not taking you they look at you look down and go oh yeah you're they're out and then they go
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go ahead and they go we're not doing the other scenes that's the worst because you're the person before you is there for 25 minutes and they're laughing and
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chuckling and really clicking the heels and then I read one scene they go we're just doing one I go that last person did
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nine and then they go well we're just doing one with you and I go yeah so I
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was so good I got it just from that they're like we'll explain it in the parking lot and get them out of here exactly and and I and I understand I was
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working with the public all the time as a waitress and so I was always polite and so I just thought it's yeah it's
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disrespectful to treat people that way so at any level I don't think I do think sub planning anger for fear is just a
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nice move you know like I have a fear of flying and sometimes I'll just manifest anger
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to myself [ __ ] this thing let's [ __ ] light this candle you know yeah it's just a good way to get aggression yeah
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you know wait you mean that you so you'll be fearful anxious to fly and
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then you'll start saying like [ __ ] this point yeah looks like this candle you know I don't
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know I never see you mean anyone though um unless it's really really people like
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me I'm a nice guy which is kind of it could be also what an obnoxious passive aggressive guy you know uh depends what
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song you like but uh I had horrible anger issues in my 20s and I would be nice until I wasn't nice never make a
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nice guy mad because then they have all the suppressed time and I would go zero to a thousand with a
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bank teller or a director and I never had a middle gear then I figured out can
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I have all this Anger from my childhood so I've been like better it's like Molly if you bully I get that I get bullied
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all the time so all my whole life so if you get pushed around you get this or someone's very disrespectful I snap on a
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dime David did you get bullied when you were a kid oh my God Non-Stop and then what when you were in grade school I was
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a bit of a pipsqueak I wasn't this strapping athlete you see today and I was always pushed around and I didn't
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have a dad you know and I was mad my dad wasn't there so one time I fought back on this kid in sixth grade and he kept
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pushing me and hitting me for no reason and it was so humiliating and then I'm like it just came out like my dad left
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me you want all this anger and I just went bananas on them and he went down his back and I started beating the [ __ ]
00:24:35
out of him and the whole school was watching and they and he crawled up and he goes the coach is coming and he ran the coach was not coming what was his
00:24:42
name wow was my last fight Ronnie Carrasco you
00:24:50
know called me out in seventh grade we're terrified all day I think then this kid was like in fourth grade go we
00:24:56
could hear the punches man we could hear the punches and then you just get him in a headline you know anyway my mistake by
00:25:03
the way I had Boys in high school I should say all their names right now because they deserve it they're funny
00:25:08
when I would walk by they would nay at me like and it really hurt my feelings
00:25:15
um all the time I was like what are they why are they doing that do they think that I look like a horse and um it was humiliating and I wish I
00:25:24
would have spoken up or told you know the the head of admissions or the Headmaster but I never did I would just
00:25:29
take it every day and then I heard that it was because there was a horse named Molly in Animal Farm and I was like that
00:25:37
was annoying but every day so mean God in their names guys right
00:25:44
should I say get it out they were twins [ __ ] no no I won't say all twins are on
00:25:50
standby right now two twins in another one and they were such dorky twins the Sandler bullies me because we I told him
00:25:57
that story one time ten years ago and then now we're like we're doing a game in St Louis and he looks out of the
00:26:03
crowd he goes I think Oscar's here and I go get the [ __ ] my heart
00:26:11
so you so you talk about him a lot I just did to like to those guys
00:26:19
we just was rabbit punching me which is legal I'm talking to some people at little league and he just starts rabbit
00:26:25
punching me in the back of the head I'm like and then immediately a circle around me no no there's not a fight here
00:26:30
Wham in the face I'm like I don't know I can't get mad I don't know what we're fighting about if he'll explain it to me I'll gladly yeah well at least it was
00:26:38
outside the house I got beaten in the house and outside the house no but I kind of ran you did why didn't it well
00:26:45
Daddy liked to get a little physical throw things around he used to be like a
00:26:51
Thundermans there's plenty of people who had a couple Whoopins and I'm not no no but my
00:27:00
childhood that's a whole other issue okay if you don't start a podcast you're
00:27:06
the most curious guest we've ever had we can't even get to you jaina you can't let that slip by me because now I have
00:27:13
so many questions wow I know well we'll talk about my words okay
00:27:19
we're going right yeah yeah I want to talk about yeah it is a lot of things you have to ask about a stand-up comic
00:27:24
name I don't like you did a character right I don't remember I think I remember Jamie Darcy and it was don't
00:27:30
get me started were you very like um very monotone is that what you're
00:27:35
saying yeah she's kind of like um on the Spectrum maybe but trying to get into scent of Comedy has a lot of dreams but
00:27:41
really not gifted but she's like don't get me started don't even get me started and she does comments it's about dating
00:27:50
but she's probably like you know very out of touch with herself but uh so she
00:27:55
does uh but that I love doing that character I did it at the very end of SNL and I purposely did it to not get
00:28:00
any laughs because I was kind of sick
00:28:07
yeah and I really just do the joke's not really nailing it right they're they're probably bad right yeah intentionally
00:28:13
yeah and I did it to kind of make Jimmy Fallon laugh and Will Ferrell laugh it was really kind of just for them and the
00:28:20
audience did not get it at all which was perfect because I wanted it to be like dead silence for sure and it took a
00:28:26
while to get it on because you know if you put something through once and it doesn't get on you really shouldn't crush it again but I pushed it through
00:28:32
again and it finally got an update and um and uh it was great and we knew it
00:28:38
Jimmy I did it yes I did it with Jimmy yes I did it with Jimmy and then I did and then Scott wania wrote A version
00:28:44
where I was performing at an old age home and like don't of course started don't even get me started yeah I
00:28:51
remember that you know when men leave the toilet seats up and she would do this dorky comedy about the men versus women yeah
00:28:57
and um basically in the sketch there were people dying in the old age home being wheeled out who would dye their
00:29:04
pulse has stopped and I'm still doing my stand-up and I have no I don't the character has no sense of she doesn't
00:29:09
care if people are laughing or yeah that was the most fun so do you feel like you're more confident like that I feel
00:29:16
like I was the most confident the day I stepped off SNL I always have a part of me like maybe two more seasons because I
00:29:23
finally didn't give a [ __ ] in the best sense of of that expression yeah did you
00:29:29
feel like at that point you're making Jimmy Fallon laugh I mean you must have evolved in terms of just
00:29:35
you know after doing you did 100 shows you just feel different about doing SNL right at that point there's a confidence
00:29:40
that's true I think Lauren's world is so different than Hollywood like Lauren doesn't care what anybody thinks he's like I like them he'll take somebody and
00:29:47
he doesn't care he does his own thing that's what I found refreshing whereas maybe I felt the town of Hollywood
00:29:54
before I got SNL was a little more like kind of people following people or you know Lauren just decides what he wants
00:29:59
and he doesn't care they don't fight him on everything yeah he's so good so I really liked Lauren's
00:30:06
world and um yes I felt like it was like a comedy boot camp I felt like
00:30:12
I I got to a point there where I really started to enjoy it I was like you know what I'm not going to worry about if I get something on or not I'm just going
00:30:18
to enjoy it like a creative arts camp like like yeah I'm working with these amazing writers and such talented people
00:30:25
that if I start to look at it more as like an Arts camp like a fun you know that then I could enjoy it more I mean
00:30:30
look we all know it's competitive of course but I I changed my philosophy about it like three quarters of the way
00:30:36
through through there and just started to really enjoy it like pretend like it's like like a summer camp for
00:30:42
Creative people did people call me down because when I I was battling nerds we've talked to Bill Hader and others
00:30:48
around the nerves of SNL and then I'd come out and I would see at the church lady said and I would see Phil in his
00:30:55
costume Phil Hartman and obviously Jan and they would call me down like these are my people I love it they're so good
00:31:01
it's so much fun that people that are pretty much whatever damage why we do
00:31:06
this who we are in this little tribe against the world it's nice it's so cool
00:31:12
so what it sounds like what you're saying is that you would just feel like you're just with them and you could like tune up them Will Ferrell there and
00:31:18
you're walking into the set or and without yourself you got somebody you guys kind of calm you down a little bit you're more excited you're in it
00:31:24
together exactly I I actually will and I wrote the sketch once where we were two
00:31:30
characters we did at Center Stage so there's no excuse to not get a lot of laughs because it was easier and we were
00:31:35
played two characters who'd recently lost 100 pounds and the sketched
00:31:42
but will and I made a deal when we went out there we were like okay if if it's just crickets we're just gonna commit
00:31:48
harder yeah see I love that and we were looking at one another and like a twinkle in our eye like oh [ __ ] we are
00:31:55
bombing and then we just performed it harder and harder like can you believe
00:32:00
it's a hundred pounds and nobody was laughing I wish I could have a copy of this sketch and it was just exactly like
00:32:06
you say Dana like such a bonding it's like it's all I cared about was me and will will and me nobody Else Matters and
00:32:13
this might be the most fun I have ever had and I feel like you have to embrace the bombing as much as the scoring
00:32:21
because they really go together you know they might be a clever bit because sometimes the audience doesn't if they
00:32:27
don't get it they sometimes feel like they're missing it and they go this is good because in the old days you do a sketch like cheeseburger Cheeburger they
00:32:34
don't know why it's funny and then they go remember that great sketch and Dan Aykroyd goes oh conehead's bombed three times like they would just keep doing it
00:32:41
and then finally it clicks in and people go I love this one and it takes a while to get why it's funny and and sometimes
00:32:47
it's not so easy where it's just like joke joke jokes or I'm a crazy character and they go I get that yeah but when
00:32:52
you're doing something very dry that's fun and if if they stick with it sometimes at the end of the sketch or
00:32:57
the next time all these Styles you do this sort of very subtle acting yeah and
00:33:03
uh and then you you're doing uh Mary Catherine yeah Gallagher yeah you
00:33:09
know and so that would be if the sound broke at a bar they're watching SNL the sound was off that was still gonna get
00:33:15
laughs and then it was also funny with the sound it was like a atomic bomb of Comedy right oh yeah oh that's so sweet
00:33:23
that character was so fun I mean yeah did you not audition with that or am I crazy I did not remember that because
00:33:28
there was a woman who around town who was calling herself kind of The Unofficial talent scout who I won't say
00:33:33
her name but she was like whatever you do don't do that little character Mary Catherine Gallagher when you audition
00:33:39
for Lauren because if you do that you'll never get hired what so I listened to her
00:33:47
managers that that said uh you're doing that too much in your act my stand-up you're coming off gay you know this is
00:33:54
the 80s out of a 75-minute stand-up set I'm only
00:33:59
doing five minutes nah it's too much interest and did you do it for when you
00:34:05
had that stand-up audition when Lauren Michaels was there with Brandon yes yes my quiver and I bet Lauren loved it
00:34:14
um Lauren was he said he knew at that moment you know I I went through a further audition and I was terrified but
00:34:20
he he said he'd already decided at that moment and you had me I love that Lauren
00:34:26
you know what things great about Lauren because you're bringing making musicology for him yes is that he loves
00:34:31
funny people he loves us yeah my mom he loves this he just loves it we're doing
00:34:37
this yeah yeah he really does it's so sweet he's he is truly a legend and the
00:34:43
thought of him not being there is just uh or I can't even imagine it it's his
00:34:48
shoes and he has so much love you know people
00:34:55
don't know that about him and uh he's such a deep thinker and loyal and funny
00:35:02
and so intelligent and you're still talking about yeah yeah yeah oh yeah yeah well he's fun to talk about he sort
00:35:09
of has this this uh you know he's a little intimidating first because he's so like but he's he's so vulnerable
00:35:15
underneath all that it's still your loss Always Forever it'll be like that's my boss yeah but he's sentimental I mean
00:35:22
now that I'm after I turn 60 I just tell people I love them and stuff really casually Sandler did it when he was gay
00:35:43
who said that you can't say oh that's okay yeah uh it was it you know look they it
00:35:54
was the twins it was the 80s and you know whatever I don't know it was a big talent agency and I I don't think they
00:36:00
were trying to [ __ ] with me they really believe that because if you're not listening to the character well well
00:36:05
well it just sounds like you know you could say you're playing stereotypical I'm playing some effeminate character
00:36:12
instead of a churchly so not a clever church so very clever
00:36:19
[Music] we should talk about the injuries you took because that was a big party are
00:36:25
you okay yeah I am okay all right orthopedically because I remember you threw yourself around like barley and he would be
00:36:32
really in pain and uh I think I remember when I was still there we had overlaps because we did Play Store things were
00:36:40
cast members together and lovers and you weren't were I know you wrote but were
00:36:46
you also paid as a writer or not no not the whole run uh paid as a writer no
00:36:51
isn't that crazy everyone there we all right I think my they dropped my writing credit when I went full cast
00:36:57
um but it was but everyone still writes for themselves obviously yeah and people at home don't know that if you write
00:37:03
it's fun to write with a writer from the show because you have to have someone watch it you know like from from the
00:37:09
booth when you're rehearsing if you write it yourself and there's no one else involved who's watching I don't even know who watches it so you you have
00:37:16
to write to get yourself because it's a writing job Steve would you write the best with my I wrote with so many
00:37:21
different people like Paul lapel and Steve corn and um but basically it feels like I when I
00:37:28
first got there I was I was so you know oh my gosh how do you figure this out but it just takes you know
00:37:35
feeling comfortable with one person in the room I think you have to be able to be yourself but I always tell people who are trying to get into writing
00:37:42
um if you just have that one person it could be in the room with where you don't feel dumb throwing out ideas and you can really fully be yourself that's
00:37:50
all it takes you know or right by yourself and if you're a writer it's good to lock into someone else that's good because if you can write for
00:37:55
someone you see these writers that are like Tim Hurley's with Sandler for every movie like there's a lot of people that
00:38:00
are double up and they just do movie after show after movie and it really is important to find someone you can lock
00:38:06
into uh on the show I I think what I was saying about Mary Catherine is I think they
00:38:12
were using steel folding chairs and I remember going are those real steel foliages there's no
00:38:18
it's she keeps falling I remember a feeling worried for you I mean I've seen it live like whoa that looked gnarly
00:38:25
whatever you're falling off yeah I didn't I was kind of reading your book last night like you you were like
00:38:31
another type of Farley I mean I don't think many people threw themselves around yeah the 8h like you did in that
00:38:38
character yeah and you kind of got in a hypnotic state in a way or you'd be right just talk about that yeah I didn't
00:38:44
feel the pain when it was going on I would throw myself into metal chairs and do crazy stuff and I look at that now
00:38:50
and I'm like oh my God I'm so glad I didn't break my neck or you know I just don't really think back yeah I wasn't
00:38:57
even thinking about that but then the next day when I would wake up I would be I would definitely feel like oh my
00:39:02
muscles hurt and I would have cuts and bruises and um so I would feel it the next day but I also liked it because I felt like I
00:39:09
worked really hard and threw myself into the character and I really did want to perform and be physical and be like the
00:39:15
boys when I started and I really wanted to do do that and then it also helped me kind of pour my nervous energy into the
00:39:21
character because I was so nervous of the physical aspect of it felt like a release I got that yeah yeah and so how
00:39:28
big what was the evolution of that becoming a movie it you did it and then you did it and then it became a huge hit
00:39:34
and it was exploding when you come out and you get Applause I mean that feels great right that feels so good
00:39:42
um I guess especially because well I I uh it took a
00:39:49
while to get on because I put it at the read through and then um Lauren liked it right away he was like let's wait and
00:39:55
save it and we'll do it with Gabriel Byrne and then he was yeah perfect yeah
00:40:01
but then when it for the show order that that week for the dress wrestle it
00:40:07
was on the bot it was at the bottom and uh I was like why why is this which
00:40:13
means it's probably gonna get cut for the dress show it was late in the show um it was late in the show schedule
00:40:19
yeah and so I that but that was kind of good because I I thought oh I'm gonna
00:40:24
have to show them and I think because I'd read it at the table they weren't understanding how physical it was going to be and because I'd done it in my show
00:40:30
that character in my show for so many years I knew what it was when I did it in my stage show I would climb the walls
00:40:36
and get up on the Rafters and they'd have to peel me down off the wall so I
00:40:41
and did you have the outfits or did you have the outfit in this stage show and no in the stage show I think I just wore
00:40:47
a black skirt if she became a Catholic School it was very funny look with the underwear bobby socks yeah yeah so go
00:40:54
ahead so then um I thought I'm really gonna have to show them so that was kind of good so for the dress show I I went
00:41:01
crazy I really had to like oh just joking oh okay great is it okay Carry On
00:41:06
Mom okay okay [Music] technically so for the yeah so for the
00:41:13
um Air Show so for the dress show I just really went crazy performing it and
00:41:20
people went crazy it got such a great response and then I went into Lauren's
00:41:26
office between dress and air to see what made it to the live show and my sketch
00:41:32
got moved from the bottom of the show to the top number one the same thing happened with the church lady is that
00:41:38
what about these characters yeah did you have the smell of the armpits and Superstar on the first one uh Star as a
00:41:45
joke I threw it in for my friend because we used to always my friend Deborah Palermo as a joke I used to always go
00:41:50
Superstar just so I did it for her I exited the stage as Mary Catherine
00:41:56
Gallagher then I came back in and slid on chairs and just under my breath went Superstar for my friend at home watching
00:42:01
to make her laugh so he's just throwing them back said then we kept it in I was like then it became it's just like a
00:42:07
great explanation yeah exactly it just fell all over the place yes and owning it yes exactly and it's also
00:42:14
um I'm so proud of it yeah and it's a representation of my childhood of overcoming hard stuff and still having
00:42:21
resilience and hope and maybe stumbling and falling and maybe looks like she's
00:42:28
not gonna make it and then they rise above the wreckage it's a reminiscent
00:42:33
dance of those themes so you you were able to sometimes people ask me where
00:42:38
things came from and all that and I try to come up with an answer sometimes I'm not sure yeah but you were able for
00:42:44
yourself yeah to figure out at some point that that character was a manifestation of stuff that happened to
00:42:50
you exactly it was like it's self-care basically yeah I get to reenact this but
00:42:56
be superstar at the end exactly that's so interesting it's like healing yeah so before I was even in therapy I would do
00:43:02
the character on stage and I remember a friend came once and they said oh that
00:43:07
character the school girl or was it a school girl that Mary Catherine Gallagher seems she seems angry I was like Angry really I didn't I I thought
00:43:15
that's interesting but uh because the original scene was just a girl auditioning to try to be in a David
00:43:20
Lynch movie and we would just improvise it and I'd be like no no you're not understanding and I have to prove myself and get this person to you know like me
00:43:28
and cast me and so it's just a little exercise in trying to be seen and understood and
00:43:35
um so yes so that's where art can like save people you know what I mean that performance as a release and um does
00:43:42
that make sense so sometimes you can be in the in like in so in your in your work and being creative and not realize
00:43:49
what it is you're trying to express and not be able to be objective about it till later does that make sense yeah I
00:43:55
think you know in a cartoon way I think that's a really evolved way to think of things in that character
00:44:01
um I did a lot of passive aggressive characters because I had trouble expressing anger because I grew up with a lot of anger in the household so you
00:44:07
you were just taught to suppress it yeah so Hans and Franz I don't know you kind
00:44:12
of even look at me you know you're exciting wow you're an old quite knowing you're doing so yeah yeah all my
00:44:19
characters is kind of angry initially passive aggressive I guess that was healing so let me ask good questions so
00:44:25
so you felt so in your house but you said that your dad could be really aggressive and violent yeah but you had
00:44:32
to did you what how did you exercise I'm gonna disappear basically so we
00:44:39
weren't like I asked Sandler about that oh and his family was just like they could yell at each other nose to nose
00:44:46
and you want to get some ice cream okay you know healthy yeah this was not that
00:44:51
but it was the 60s five kids a lot of Independence see you later you know so I
00:44:57
mean I I survived what was your mom like um she was sort of very sweet but very
00:45:03
dainty and and very much under his thumb and she was the artsy one interesting
00:45:11
big families you know we raise each other a lot we scrambled it was like if
00:45:17
there was a sugary cereal get it now you know yeah yeah so um anyway it's very interesting it's
00:45:23
always fascinating David he had an easy childhood so it's still he's so [ __ ] funny but with just a oh no
00:45:30
David you were raised by your mom yes I'll take this question from Molly yes
00:45:36
you were raised by her mom uh my mother I was saying about Dana's mother like it sounds like mine she was very like
00:45:42
creative and she's a writer and she loved artsy stuff and always wanted us to do anything like that that we thought
00:45:49
was my brother was more artistic you know anything common anything she loved it she loved writing so she would always
00:45:55
push that but that the dad wasn't around I think you had sort of uh the reverse
00:46:00
of that and with your mom and you had a tough uh I think it's funny because all these comedians it just always sort of
00:46:07
is the same type of story where It's just tough you know and a lot of people have tough growing up I mean they're not all
00:46:14
comedians yeah so just it's just that's why we're not that special in that regard but I did I was lucky to have a
00:46:21
mom that was very you know she had it dealt some tough cards but she tried her
00:46:26
best and dad was around but I think the mom really tried to make up for it you know that's great which is great she's still
00:46:33
around thank God because that's a tough one and uh
00:46:39
yeah it only takes one it's like I think you need something yeah if you have one
00:46:45
good parent I like the figure sweeps they say having a champion yeah and was reading your book this morning uh your
00:46:52
dad became your your Champion like you can do anything my mom was like that with all of her siblings that's you know
00:46:57
yeah so it was we did we were out of our children are all her siblings with all her all of us kids with all of you kids
00:47:05
you know so it's too supportive that way did she stay married to your dad she did she did that so interesting interesting
00:47:12
so 1940s 1950s well let me ask you this so Sushi
00:47:20
um so did you feel like you had to be more like her no I kind of I kind of took
00:47:29
care of her yeah yeah you did I was her surrogate that's that's so interesting
00:47:34
that makes sense that's I had that a little bit with my father too there's nothing to be embarrassed about with uh
00:47:40
oh no it was it's just normal codependency how how do you get attachment how do you get loving by
00:47:45
behaving this way you get it you don't I went to therapy too maybe you went to the same therapist you are I have to say
00:47:51
I don't know how much more time yeah we've already guess quite like you you're so awesome you're interested in
00:47:56
us and we love it yeah it's so interesting well you guys are so talented and and I have to say it's so
00:48:02
fun doing the show because I would rather hear you guys talk yes we would
00:48:08
too because honestly we're listening to this particular episode want to hear about Molly Shannon you know well I like
00:48:14
talking about anything like that because I think that that's it so much talking about it yeah therapy helps so much yeah
00:48:20
how long did you go a long time okay I went five years but maybe I'll I'll go back that's great because he's driving
00:48:26
me nuts Molly said he's got such an interesting disposition because you're always upbeat and you're such a good
00:48:32
listener and even we don't have to talk about it but when we were at that Norm thing the other day um you're such a
00:48:38
good articulate uh speaker and you speak from the heart about any subject and
00:48:44
just we're out and you meet people you're just very locked in it's very uh
00:48:50
you don't see that a lot you think you do but you don't and so it's very uh uh and then your whole upbringing just to
00:48:57
this point in your comic it's just we're also been through the ringer in a weird way yeah and uh it's funny because when
00:49:03
you finally make it you're like what the [ __ ] was that about like yeah was it worth it but you're very uh I just have
00:49:09
to give you a compliment that when you're out and about she's got such a good vibe about it everyone loves this
00:49:15
let's have a lot of friends is if you're a curious person people like that that says you know what I was gonna say but don't you think like sometimes I think
00:49:21
going through that tough stuff when you're little does give you that kind of command of an audience that control you
00:49:27
have to have some kind of weird skill to be able to you know do what you guys do
00:49:32
like get get up and perform and know how to like hold a crowd I mean that's not an easy thing how do you think your
00:49:39
childhood gave you that ability to do to have that special skill oh God these are
00:49:46
really good questions [Music] um
00:49:57
well hello oh my god it feels so good to laugh one thing I will think though is I don't
00:50:04
like I feel like I feel like the healthier I become I feel like I don't want to keep going toward those
00:50:09
old patterns of going toward pain or this or that you're not good enough it's like oh my God after a while yeah you
00:50:16
know what I mean when you have your house and this and that be happy right it's like oh my God give me a break so it's a great thing I have to ask you
00:50:22
about the show where you at QVC it's called I love oh [ __ ] for you I love that for you and we talk to your lovely
00:50:28
coach sure you know we talk to you lovely you talk to Vanessa actually so nice two episodes last night that's so
00:50:36
sweet I love when you do characters and then the character does a little character voice it's so funny so such a
00:50:44
specific thing only you could say I love it just do a little bit because you're okay all right it's like whatever you do
00:50:51
for the people at home yes for the I mean this is on Showtime yes I love that for you Vanessa I love
00:51:00
that for you it's a really cool you say what it is oh yeah I play a host
00:51:06
of a Home Shopping Network and I'm like the queen sales person and I can sell
00:51:11
stuff like this is the cutest little jar of sugar you see you know and Vanessa taught me how to do it but this is what
00:51:17
these women do and they're very good funny to watch yeah but Vanessa grew up watching it so it's based on her
00:51:23
childhood and Vanessa Vanessa and arable from Cleveland Ohio and Vanessa's another one who she seems almost like
00:51:29
she could be a psychotherapist not an actress she's very calm in real life did you did you find that yeah she's so
00:51:35
grounded yeah yeah and she plays there the uh QVC girl and
00:51:43
it is kind of funny for you because I like it because it's very calming to hear those people talk like you said and
00:51:48
you're just so happy I could just drone on and watch them for a while because they're very interested in what they're talking about they're very interested in
00:51:54
the audience yeah they're just talking to you and they don't [ __ ] stop and it and it and they showed Vanessa going
00:51:59
through the audition process of that show and it seems very hard that show made me scared to be on QVC because
00:52:06
you you just got to run it and they have a graph showing when the sales go down did you say something wrong and you go
00:52:12
and she accidentally uh smells something that acts like it smells kind of bad for a half a second the sales [ __ ]
00:52:18
plummeted yeah just now half a second because you didn't I have a friend who trained for it for uh his for a shampoo
00:52:25
line and he said he was terrible but they they put you through training and there's a certain type of language they
00:52:30
have to use but he said if you talk about like Mama or God the ratings go up my mama says you know this sugar is
00:52:38
thank God to her you know church on Sunday you know sales so there's just
00:52:43
certain things I wonder what we should say in this podcast to make our ratings Hallelujah David
00:52:56
yes I do uh no I do uh Molly so Molly how do you
00:53:01
uh how uh so yeah do you like apples what's your favorite have you ever I
00:53:07
know you like half chicken I'll ask you a question have you ever at a dinner been to it like a group dinner and just
00:53:14
there was like a little bit of a silence or a lull on a conversation just said something just to fill the air David you
00:53:20
go first that's all I do that's a good one that's all you do you like apples
00:53:28
when I go to uh what's your net worth
00:53:33
have you ever encountered anything Supernatural besides meeting me and then
00:53:39
people have ghost stories and that I did that with Julie Roberts and Tom Hanks and these people at this Shakespearean
00:53:45
Comedy Ghost Stories what is that Tom would have you you would go on you would
00:53:51
do Shakespeare you but you could do it any way you wanted so I was just doing this like hey how you doing yeah and
00:53:56
it's a big charity event he does and this was 10 years ago so then Julia Roberts and all these actors and we're
00:54:02
all around the table and it's gonna be a little bit of like that small talk well I think so you too and I go you guys
00:54:08
ever seen a ghost or any Supernatural thing and then everyone has a story yeah so Molly Shannon that's great I ask you
00:54:15
yeah do you yes encountered a UFO you couldn't explain
00:54:21
it kind of freaked you out um are you I lived in this apartment in Hollywood that man ray used to live in I like your
00:54:27
question Dana and um when I was a struggling actress with my roommate Brian Donovan and it had cathedral
00:54:32
ceilings and it was across in the El Pollo Loco on the corner of Fountain and Vine and I had just like a love I love
00:54:38
that that's scary over there yeah Franklin hotel or something yeah yeah
00:54:44
it's just it's a good sketch though and um and um we live there together and I
00:54:50
remember I had we had a party and this guy this like guy who's at the party was like them's ghosts in here and I I said
00:54:59
really where's he from he's from Arkansas does that scare you though about ghosts that would scare me no
00:55:04
because I didn't really but I would have dreams at night I don't know if it was sleep paralysis but I would have a dream where I was being held down in only in
00:55:12
that apartment did you have you ever had that at San Ysidro Ranch which I made my wife we
00:55:18
left the hotel in the middle of the night twice okay what the [ __ ] is that push
00:55:24
down like a feeling it's from nightmares the feeling of a horse lying down on you
00:55:29
and then I had the house we have up in Northern California is from 1909 yeah and where my son's bedroom was but she
00:55:35
moved in with his brother when I slept in there a couple times I had it in there also a white noise I had in there
00:55:41
too why does everyone sleeping come on hours wait what the where's that going
00:55:46
on yeah I'm not afraid of anything anymore really at this age I thought so good but
00:55:54
what happened so he says go should you meet the ghosts oh no but I would just feel like I was being held down or I
00:55:59
would feel like there was somebody at the edge of the bed holding my feet down and then I would wake up and it was only in that apartment where I left it never
00:56:05
happened again isn't that weird Dan Aykroyd on this podcast he loves this
00:56:10
stuff he's into it wow that's really fascinated by that um I would be scared
00:56:17
shitless yeah I was alone I hear any noises I'm scared and I had another scary thing at that apartment too where
00:56:24
there was in my bedroom a Peeping Tom in the alley like I saw it was changing and
00:56:29
I was like and so then I ran out to the front and called the security guard I was like
00:56:35
Andrew Andrew come here come here and he came came into the door and I
00:56:41
almost have to get up and demonstrate but I don't want to go away from the microphone walked in and um he came in
00:56:46
what what what and then while he was in the door he got in and then he slammed the door shut with his foot and it was
00:56:54
within seconds that I realized oh no that was him and now I just let him into my apartment oh wow that's scary he was
00:57:02
like this I'm going to demonstrate he was like Molly standing up
00:57:11
then he was in I did quickly get him out because my I just did you figure it out
00:57:17
and you realize hell I didn't see anything anymore you
00:57:22
can go now yeah [Laughter]
00:57:29
you close the door while you were behind him and he should have gone he's not in the alley anymore and then he goes he's
00:57:35
in your room and turn to you and then you would have gone oh my God oh my God
00:57:41
did you ever see that movie when a stranger calls calls come from inside the house
00:57:47
alone in a 19 000 square foot house with no Securities are you David well I
00:57:53
definitely haven't seen any scary movies I would not see it I didn't see any of the biggies no no no
00:58:00
why am I inviting I have enough nightmares no no exactly there's no more stressful
00:58:09
[Music]
00:58:26
the same thing I have every day Molly I had uh one egg and one egg white
00:58:33
um I had um some avocado I slice stuff a piece of
00:58:39
sourdough toast
00:58:47
those two things and then my wife made a thing she calls a green drink a little bit of pear and spinach and stuff like
00:58:55
that that sounds silly what did you have that sounds exactly breakfast I will yes I had a Gelson's half a chicken no I
00:59:02
just had a smoothie I had a banana almond milk smoothie right before I came David what did you have you know uh the
00:59:11
big story is when you said they're like Gelson's when I moved out here to stay with the funny boys did you stand up I
00:59:17
had no money yeah and I just had change yeah and he goes you can keep there's change up on the counter if you want it
00:59:22
so I felt so embarrassed but when I went to do stuff I would scrape the change and I went to Ralph's on Fountain way
00:59:28
down there yeah there's Ralph's or something and then um I went and I got the rotisserie chicken in the thing same
00:59:35
thing and just took it hard because there's a lot of food and they come home
00:59:45
yeah and then I I know if I get a spot of the Improv you get a free pineapple chicken where it's like a little breast
00:59:50
with a pineapple circle on top yeah because that was it you don't know where the next one is and so but this
00:59:57
morning eggs oh eggs okay eggs the only interesting thing I've weld on
01:00:03
bacon that's not that interesting and then I have like what's your plan sir a little clean oatmeal no bread
01:00:24
[Applause]
01:00:35
the decks are clear the kids are great everything what's a molly super day like
01:00:40
your mental health day this is Molly's day off okay I like that question um I
01:00:47
would I would definitely like to exercise because it relaxes you go for a hike run a run run yeah
01:00:55
because it calms me down that's great I just can't do it anymore well hiking is so good I just go up the
01:01:01
hill though that's amazing so you start out with the Run running and I would listen to a good podcast
01:01:08
you know the daily or NPR or books on tape so I'll do that while I'm running
01:01:15
oh okay and then I also like swimming so I a good day would be to swim for one
01:01:21
hour wow that's what I want to do it makes me feel so happy I've been starting to to
01:01:27
attempt to do it because they have a little pool at this one house we have oh that sounds like how do you so where do you go where do you swim we have a pool
01:01:34
in our backyard so it's like 40 feet or it's 30 feet um I'm not sure yet you go back and
01:01:40
forth are you switching Strokes I just do the breaststroke the whole time and I also listen to interviews when I'm
01:01:46
swimming do you get your hair wet so how do you do that I'm not getting electrocuted I just have a speaker I don't have the earpods but I just have a
01:01:53
speaker so I'm really like you know well you're kind of like this and it's on the side so you come out what gets you more
01:01:59
just Zen down the run or the swimmers it's just the two together that's a really good question I would say what do
01:02:06
you think I I'm just coming on to the idea of swimming so I feel like like especially if it's deprivation where you
01:02:12
have earplugs and it's like people come out of the pool like whoa yeah in my olden times my other times I think hard
01:02:18
cardiovascular breaking a sweat yeah but basically let's put it this way your perfect day is 10 a.m and you're
01:02:24
basically blasted in a good way exactly so after you're running around so you're
01:02:30
just like this now what do you do exactly then I guess if it's like a perfect day too I might go to a steam
01:02:35
get a nice steam or sauna and uh it makes me so relaxed
01:02:41
well you're asking like a really fun day this is like oh I love this this is why your kids are in school if I have a
01:02:47
little bit of free time then I would maybe I I mean if it's a dream day maybe
01:02:53
I would I mean I haven't done this for a while but I would love to go to a pretty Park in nature and sit and do creative
01:02:59
visualization if you're asking for a dream day like a meditative yeah meditative kind of writing yeah you know
01:03:05
some part of these things you do all the time but now it's loaded into one day yeah but then and
01:03:11
um let's see what you should go out to dinner oh my god well that's later say after
01:03:16
um my husband likes to stay in and cook so I don't but I love it I love going out for dinner with friends but he likes
01:03:22
to cook cook dinner and stay in and of course my ideal my favorite thing is just spending time with my children so
01:03:28
yeah they're 17 and 18 and I'm gonna pick my son up today at school and my
01:03:34
daughter and I are gonna get acupuncture today so I like stuff like that you know stuff that makes your body feel good everything to make you feel better is
01:03:41
you watch any entertainment do you watch movies you watch dramas yes I just finished watching the drop out Mike
01:03:46
Showalter show with Amanda Seyfried I loved it that was so good and my husband and I love documentaries we're watching
01:03:54
um Love on the Spectrum right now on Netflix everybody's watching that we're getting some high fives in the room just
01:04:01
watch Pam and Tommy um was it did you watch it it was so funny Tommy's Sons bought my old house
01:04:07
in Encino really well and um my recordings do and in my
01:04:14
pool oh my God I'm happy for him go ahead and um yeah but no yeah my husband and I
01:04:20
love documentaries that's our favorite yeah yeah so watching TV with your husband hanging with your kids
01:04:26
jacuzzi meditation beautiful Park relaxing steam yeah okay I like that answer I'm
01:04:33
relaxed just hearing that oh good and just hanging out in the house is so fun with my kids there's nothing that makes
01:04:39
me happier than just having a free day where you could just stay or stay in your house and do whatever you want I
01:04:45
love it yeah I I love being a dad I love love that hanging out with my kids it's the greatest yeah me too it's mine well
01:04:52
Molly Shannon is her tell me your book it's called hello Molly yes a great title yeah because it said you can never
01:04:59
forget it my journey to the thing what's the name
01:05:05
of your book David it was stupid it's not hello it was mine's harder called I
01:05:11
think it was called oh one of them was called this is a good one a Polaroid guy in a Snapchat world
01:05:17
but that's a pill or a guy in a Snapchat because I talk about how the difference
01:05:23
is when I grew up now it is now everything's different I like that title so you like it but hello Molly so cool
01:05:30
you can sing it that's what's good and you're also gonna love that for you hello she's one award she you've worked
01:05:36
consistently ever since you left SNL it seems like you're always doing stuff with will and you they're hiring you for
01:05:42
this and that now you're in this show life is good yeah
01:05:51
well you know what you do you don't get your hair wet that's what we other people want to know if I have enough I
01:05:56
know I like that that you're asking David if it's a nice blowout I would probably toss it up because I wouldn't want to ruin it
01:06:02
above it's just a very meditative back and forth yes with some good reading
01:06:08
material maybe I would listen to uh listen to a New Yorker article on Autumn the I don't like that about modern
01:06:15
digital technology because you're just you're driving and you can listen to World War II books and like so Hitler
01:06:22
decided it was too late you know yeah I mean I just can't get enough of that stuff is that right Dana oh I love
01:06:28
documentaries too I I kind of like everything I'm pretty wife wants to watch the crown I love the crown and I
01:06:34
like 2001 I see that every year when she's not around you know yeah yeah so I like I like all of it but I mostly like
01:06:40
dramas and Adventures and stuff yeah but uh did you see the original staircase
01:06:46
documentary it's on Netflix now that's excellent about the guy who maybe pushed his wife down the stairs yes yes that's
01:06:52
a good one you know what those things if you want to look for dysfunction Cowsills about a 60s pop band family
01:07:00
band it's about their dysfunctional family very reminiscent of mine in some ways but it's also their Fame and their
01:07:06
trajectory the cow cells I think it's called on Netflix oh that sounds good Ted sarandas's cousin yeah so yeah I
01:07:14
also support Netflix on this podcast
01:07:20
all right guys nice to meet you okay good yeah yeah you guys thank you so much
01:07:26
well you're amazing so good hey what's up flies what's up please what's up
01:07:32
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01:07:38
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01:07:44
okay from akure email kyber what do you think of that name hakur emo
01:07:51
copper that's a long one okay hello Mr and Mr
01:07:57
funny dudes it's funny way to think of us that could have been the name of our podcast um Mr and Mr funny dudes ish I've been a
01:08:04
big fan of both of you since the 1930s that's cruel no 90s even though I didn't
01:08:09
know what SNL was back then I'm an Icelandic okay I get to the an Icelandic
01:08:16
okay I like that place I am also a fan of Chris Farley and I still remember
01:08:21
where I was when I heard the news of his passing okay my question is how do you think Farley's career would have panned
01:08:28
out if he would have lived would he have had a podcast would he be doing serious movies like Adam Sandler or even
01:08:34
collecting Oscars like Tom Hanks hope this email finds you swell and with that
01:08:40
I'm gonna get [ __ ] warm I have a stove in my Igloo no Saga I don't think
01:08:45
they live it's freezing out there if your country starts with the name ice get a [ __ ] Polar Tech or something I
01:08:51
think green lands full of ice and Iceland's green that's what I heard yeah so I knew someone but here's your real
01:08:58
answer freezing land here's your answer you knew Chris better than I did but I think um
01:09:04
he I developed a movie called Beverly Hills Ninja you couldn't do it today for
01:09:09
a year I was gonna be the Beverly Hills Ninja yeah I had read throughs and everything really yeah but that fell
01:09:16
through and then Chris did Beverly Hills Ninja yeah and he was hysterical in it so I was just a fun fact just you know I
01:09:24
also turned down tell me boy no I didn't that's very I'm very likely though uh
01:09:31
they wanted Dana for everything I think Chris was uh was a one-off as far as His Brilliant physical comedy and and his
01:09:38
you know sneakily very smart guy obviously you know Chris he's a smart guy yeah he knew exactly what he was
01:09:45
doing he knew what he's doing yeah and uh I think podcasts were down the line but I think he would have done those big
01:09:52
by the way this big comedies we always should try to do are not as prevalent these days they're very tough to get
01:09:57
going so he would have just adapted like Madonna over the years he would have always been funny he probably would have
01:10:03
to stop drinking and uh then he would have just been what do you have got implants then if he's yeah yeah okay I
01:10:10
think he would have looked like a Kardashian at this point he would have fallen for that whole I
01:10:15
don't yeah I don't know about that look I mean they all have injections in their asses right I mean there's that's not
01:10:21
natural they always would say we don't have butt implants you can take an x-ray they don't say that they don't mention they're like they're putting like 30
01:10:29
seconds when you're a kid it's like loading a Pelicans those last
01:10:36
couple but we love the Kardashians yeah but as I call them the Kardashians you know that Kris Jenner is managing all
01:10:43
these people and she's she's a brilliant business woman you know she sits around a table you know she would be managing
01:10:50
Farley you're right Chloe I need an ass pick like yesterday high heels panties from behind if I see another Mickey
01:10:57
Minaj ass pick I'm gonna go nuts Kim let's see some Black and Whites uh by
01:11:03
Friday and Courtney take a picture of the guy have one more wedding we gotta do a clean sweep making it even Caitlyn
01:11:10
we gotta take you back but I don't want to go back we're going to push Kanye's the surgeon but I don't want to
01:11:17
go back it's a billion dollar piece of business now listen [ __ ] you're becoming a man again so I guess Chris
01:11:23
would just be doing movies TV shows Johnny job guys
01:11:30
in this podcast now we would have done maybe more movies there was a movie called the tree we liked and uh the the
01:11:36
main thing I would take away from this question from Iceland is just we all miss Chris and uh it was just a lovely
01:11:42
gentleman and um I remember just saying to my wife we were living in up upper west side and
01:11:48
Chris got there so you got to meet Chris Farley so sweet you know and uh he did have the midwestern he was you know uh
01:11:56
had the that Minnesota nice even though he's from Wisconsin he was with the lady well he always called me the lady never
01:12:03
never never didn't call me the lady him and Chris Rock I don't know what that was about even Chris today hey lady it's
01:12:09
the lady and both were Chris's Chris Rock Chris Farley only called me
01:12:14
the lady for the church lady thank you for your question and thank you for Iceland and please send us a
01:12:21
couple pictures so we know and I can educate Dana the thing I love about Iceland I'm not a good flyer going into
01:12:26
Europe and I go okay Eastern Seaboard because okay Greenland we could bail out and then it's like Atlantic cold Icy
01:12:33
Atlantic I go we could always bail out in Iceland round it for you three cheers for Iceland Iceland Iceland Iceland
01:12:41
all right I guess that's it thank you for your questions keep them coming we'll keep the answers long
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Episode Highlights

  • The Power of ASMR
    Molly discusses her unique experience with ASMR and how it affects her.
    “It feels almost like getting a massage.”
    @ 05m 09s
    October 07, 2022
  • Molly Shannon's Journey
    Molly Shannon shares her path to success and the challenges she faced along the way.
    “I thought I might quit because then become a real estate agent.”
    @ 12m 12s
    October 07, 2022
  • The Reality of Auditions
    Molly reflects on the harsh realities of auditions and the emotional toll they take.
    “I don't think I have the heart for this anymore.”
    @ 14m 49s
    October 07, 2022
  • The Importance of Writing
    Good writing is crucial in acting; it can make or break a performance.
    “The problem you have is the writing.”
    @ 21m 41s
    October 07, 2022
  • Embracing Anger
    Sometimes anger can be a healthy response to disrespect and fear.
    “Sometimes if you feel angry that can be healthy.”
    @ 21m 59s
    October 07, 2022
  • The Power of Performance
    Physical comedy can be a release for nervous energy and a way to connect with the audience.
    “I really wanted to perform and be physical and be like the boys.”
    @ 39m 15s
    October 07, 2022
  • Character Evolution
    Mary Catherine Gallagher became a representation of resilience and hope through comedy.
    “It's a representation of my childhood of overcoming hard stuff.”
    @ 42m 14s
    October 07, 2022
  • The Healing Power of Art
    Molly Shannon discusses how art can be a release and a form of healing.
    “Art can save people, you know what I mean?”
    @ 43m 35s
    October 07, 2022
  • The Importance of a Good Parent
    Molly reflects on how having at least one supportive parent can make a difference.
    “It only takes one good parent.”
    @ 46m 39s
    October 07, 2022
  • Childhood Experiences and Performance
    Molly shares insights on how tough childhoods can enhance performance skills.
    “Sometimes going through tough stuff gives you command of an audience.”
    @ 49m 21s
    October 07, 2022
  • Remembering Chris Farley
    A heartfelt discussion on how Chris Farley's career might have evolved, filled with nostalgia.
    “We all miss Chris and he was just a lovely gentleman.”
    @ 01h 11m 36s
    October 07, 2022

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  • Molly Shannon's Book01:54
  • ASMR Experience04:28
  • Anger Issues23:34
  • Childhood Bullying24:10
  • Character Creation42:14
  • Tough Childhoods49:21
  • Netflix Recommendations1:06:46
  • Chris Farley Tribute1:11:36

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