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beer
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that's the next one here's good ready
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here's Birds right
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what about something
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that's you waking up in the morning
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[Laughter]
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so I do the hand so it gives a sense of
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okay sure and I shouldn't even bring
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this out here because you don't deserve
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it there's a bird flying away
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thank you here's an old-fashioned dial
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phone for you ancient
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okay
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bring bring hello yes oh what's that I
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tried to beat it louder can you do this
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sound
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like Predator it's just sort of a
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no okay can you do this sound can you do
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this
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uh can you do an octopus watch
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laughs
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can you do Anthony Hopkins and uh as
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Hannibal Lecter
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I I can spell them God I once did Garth
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you can tell him Garth I did go I played
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Gars and and Anthony Hopkins played
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Hannibal Lecter and we would entertain
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the crew on a movie we did together I
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can smell you goth I can smell Wayne
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other guard let me be like oh hey man
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hey you guys
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it's all you got to do is the jaw I'm
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gonna Kristen wig at the 40th goes why
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does he hold his mouth that way she
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seemed a little upset from a woman in
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his 100 characters I'm a lap machine I
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do voices and effects to make people
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happy Dana Dana who is married you were
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married in 1950 57 1957 I got married
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and no I met her at 19 when she was 19.
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I raised her as one of my own that's
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nice that's what Elvis did with me hey
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Priscilla uh you're 14. you gotta wait
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four more years from Berlin when she was
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20. she wasn't sexy anymore okay it's
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like a burger damn sandwich Lorraine
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Newman is on the show today and uh yes I
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knew him in one of the OG's from SNL
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um very lucky I would say to hit that
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lightning time of being on the show that
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just blew the [ __ ] up and she has a a
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true adorableness level like there's
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something very sweet about her she's
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cute you know when you're in college
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stuff you'd like to all the all the
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women I don't know if women understand
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how much men find smart funny women
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attractive David yeah you're the
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bachelor Tina Fey have a crush on Tina
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there's a lot of girls out there that
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just got that smart funny thing and uh
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they don't even need to be Robin
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Williams they just they have a clever
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thing about them sort of charismatic
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deal that I like now and that being said
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I don't understand where are we going
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she is one of the original oh yeah
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members of the original cast the rock
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stars of the from 1975 on Lauren
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Michaels Cadre of
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funsters Cadre Cadre of funsters that's
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another podcast work with Belushi
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Aykroyd Garrett Morris Chevy Chase like
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what a fun Jane Curtin mixed bag kill
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the right people she was a conehead for
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crying out loud that's really what I'm
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going for she's a conehead and I did the
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Conan's movie and I didn't get to wear a
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cone and what you know what did you when
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did you first get that hey wait a minute
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their heads look like cones and that's
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why they're called Coneheads when did
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you realize that um one second in um did
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anyone take long so let me give you a
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quiz Pop Quiz if their heads were oblong
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shaped what would they be called oblong
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heads yes okay if they're how about this
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did you know that Arby's is because of
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roast beef RB
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nope you did not well no slow down by
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three quarters RB
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Rhythm and RB RB RB roast beef that's
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why it's called Arby's oh got it okay
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I didn't know toe goes was because it's
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to go I didn't know that do you know
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Jack in the Box is called that because
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the owner jacked off in a box
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I didn't know that
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no but I did jack off in a box once
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let's look at a clip my mother's maiden
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name was McDonald's all those late
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nights is that weird all right we better
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get to uh Lorraine Newman I adore her
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she's so funny and so Charming
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um I did a benefit once she was there
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brought her daughter daughter's a big
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star too but on the show don't say what
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one I won't say which one her daughter
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was like 10 and I was up there and I was
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kind of at the latter stages of my teen
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idolness and so later on Lorraine I ran
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into her at the West Side a comedy club
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in Santa Monica and she goes you were my
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daughter's first sort of crush
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on a an adult figure and uh that was
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kind of flattering all right we got that
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story in you guys here's Lorraine Newman
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that's my best story
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[Music]
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you know what I'll give Lorraine a
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compliment right off the bat right ready
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everyone loves Lorraine Lorraine look
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you have a great voice and
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um not that I'm flirting but when you
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when women say what or people say what
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do you like about women one of my weird
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things is not that weird but aside from
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the basics oh I like this this that all
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guys like a voice is very interesting
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because it's very unique on every person
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and even as you get older people
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recognize your voice like they know mine
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from The Emperor's New Groove which was
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a cartoon movie I did a long time ago
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and so when I'm in 7-Eleven people no
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attention no touchy everybody in my
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family all my kids know that reference
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oh they know that you ever think did you
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ever think no but I was telling that
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whole story just to get to see if that
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they knew my movie
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um but uh no but you have a recognizable
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voice David do you have a recognizable
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and she has a good voice that's uh right
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Lorraine has a very seductive uh smooth
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uh feminine voice you know where it
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really came in handy e Buzz Miller
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weren't you the the girlfriend or
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something Christy Christina a character
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that I never understood why anybody
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thought that was funny I never ever
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thought that character was funny I just
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was like you know well they gave me the
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part I'm gonna do the best I can and uh
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they even made this kind of peace
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that that gave me those
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boobs with the you know the little
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bullet nipples because it was actually a
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rubber piece that went you know under
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the leotard it's a weird meaning and
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they probably don't have any more
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uh who knows yeah well okay Lorraine
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when you do when you do a part like that
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I think SNL people want to and we can
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talk about anything but on the SNL tip
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when Dana and I have been in that in
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that mix and it's probably similar when
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you were there but is that Danny Aykroyd
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is writing something up or someone else
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they walk by knocking your door and go
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hey do you want to be in this thing
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we're writing it up it's Tuesday night
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where you play is that kind of how it
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goes
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the way that it went with you is exactly
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the way it went with us I remember
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listening to Andy Samberg on a radio
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show and he talked about the schedule
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like Monday meet meet the host pitch
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some ideas Lauren says work on that
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everybody works until Wednesday yeah
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she'll read through you know the whole
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thing choosing what you know build the
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sets I mean and you guys didn't have
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they probably ironed out a lot of the
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problems you probably had a little
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rougher as far as oh yeah yeah well we
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didn't we we didn't have word process we
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didn't have I wasn't there during uh
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being online and stuff so I did go back
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to host at one point Bill Hader and John
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Mulaney were there and they're like oh
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we'll we'll click up this sketch that
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you did from dress that was cut in 1987
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so they have everything in a database
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and I I you know when you never know
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what's going to land with people so I
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had done a sitcom with Mickey Rooney and
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is the freakiest person ever you know
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hysterical I have a Mickey Rooney story
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I just took Mickey's lines or some
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sketch Bonnie and Terry Turner were
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doing old-fashioned movie stars so I
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just told them stuff Mickey had said I
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was the number one star in the world you
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hear me bang the world so I just did
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Mickey's lines and I had prosthetic
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makeup so I go there
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and Bill Hader and John Mulaney they
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just go our favorite thing you've ever
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done is Mickey Rooney so
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just one of those things well that's a
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great impression of him what what is the
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language code on this show oh you can
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tell everyone what the [ __ ] dude
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what were you saying so I did a movie
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that um I had had nightmares that had
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been released and I would wake up
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sweating
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um and it was called uh revenge of the
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Red Baron and it was the kind of thing
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where I said to my agent just ask for
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this amount of money they'll never
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agreed to it and be over well they
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agreed to it and it was a Roger it was a
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Roger Corman movie okay and I'm thinking
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well you know Catherine Bigelow started
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with Roger Kerman but no this was some
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schlepper that had been cutting his
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movies for 20 years but Toby Maguire
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played my son
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um Clifty young was in it and a lot of
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it was written by Mike McDonald from the
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Groundlings in Mad TV okay so it would
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be good and there were some Groundlings
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in it and so I thought you know kind of
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safe Mickey Rooney would say those
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things you know I was the biggest star
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and then as he's as he's hitching his
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trousers he when I was having my single
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and he was in my peripheral vision he
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would spit in his hand and make
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masturbatory gestures and then squirt
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the spit out of his hand like it was
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semen talk about in a picture thank you
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thank you yes yeah can you imagine I
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thought I was the only one that did that
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on sets that's always I know we
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shouldn't speak ill of the Dead no not
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at all he was just the most bitter
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person it was so funny he had a 38
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revolver with him and he would pull it
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out out sometimes this script is Kaka
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and he's kind of waving it around he uh
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she's reliving in her head I would go to
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work it would be Rockefeller Center on
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the sixth floor six years before I got
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on the eighth floor and I'd hear him
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down the hallway
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you know Judy Garland never owned her
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car
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and then he would get really close to
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your face because they pumped her so
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full of drugs that killed her he would
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talk until the air there was no more air
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left and
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um once you've worked with Mickey I mean
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Nathan and I had so many stories about
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working with Mickey but yeah he could be
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crude he said he had an idea of her show
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where every character's name was a swear
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word and he would act it out for like 20
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minutes hello Mrs [ __ ] I'm Mr [ __ ] how
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are you [ __ ] and it went on for
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like 20 minutes I could get that sold
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well I actually saw him say to an actor
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um have you accepted Jesus Christ as
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your personal savior hey would you look
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at the tits on that one you know I was
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like right
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you know and he was phoning it in he was
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in Sugar Babies on Broadway doing the
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sitcom so we'd have to act to this guy
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who's like 30 years old but was five
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feet tall all week long we rehearse with
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him and Mickey would have giant cue
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cards he was just and he would always
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had cash because he'd been broke for
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decades and sugar babies he was making
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money and on the sitcom so he'd pull out
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like five thousand dollars and put it
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right up to your face and go think I can
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afford lunch oh my God there's too many
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stories we don't want to make it all
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serious what were you doing on the sixth
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floor for four years I was doing a
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really long story short I was doing uh
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stand up in San Francisco
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NBC people came up I had kind of this uh
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uh innocent uh Timmy Lassie look going
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on I was kind of funny whatever so I got
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to deal with NBC a holding deal fifty
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thousand dollars up front against things
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I would be doing I was on the Marie
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Osmond variety show as a wow as a sketch
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player for like a day uh but anyway uh
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then all of a sudden I got a call from
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NBC you're gonna play Mickey Rooney's
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grandson on a sitcom in New York and
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Nathan Lane had auditioned in La we flew
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back out on a 747 George Burns was
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playing cards anyway everything was good
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and it was in Rockefeller Center on the
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sixth floor and then I would go up to
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the eighth floor on Thursdays watching
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them run through the thing Joe Piscopo
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and Eddie Murphy and going oh man I want
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to be up here but I was cast as a
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straight man for many years because I
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just had I had no confidence I had no I
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had ambition but I had no real
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confidence which kind of comes full
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circle a little bit to your story when
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I'm watching Saturday Night Live from 75
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to 80 uh you're you were the Beatles you
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were you were rock stars you were more
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than comedians because you were the
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first and I was so in awe of the show
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the idea that I would be on it and I
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don't know how you felt because you get
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on and the show's not the show yet it's
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still maybe it'll get canceled yeah so
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can you just talk a little bit about
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that very very bare beginning were you
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there for the first show of the 75
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season you're there and who's with you
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is everyone there Chevy everybody's
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there um and the last uh like you know
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the 11th hour it was between Billy and
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Chevy
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yeah which killed me because I had never
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um seen Billy except I I he was one of
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the first people I met my first friend
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was Gilda Radner
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and she took me up to uh a recording
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session for a National Lampoon album the
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one that's called that's not funny
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that's sick so I'm on that album but I
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meet Harold Ramis and Chris guest and
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Randall Murray and Bill Murray and so I
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got a sense of what Billy had and then I
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saw his audition I'm thinking oh boy you
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know and then they chose Chevy wait they
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were they couldn't fit they couldn't
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have both of them and that's that's what
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I thought that's what I had hoped but
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they had Belushi and Aykroyd yes already
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yeah they felt like well now they have
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32 cast members that they could
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how many was it with you guys seven so
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explosive I mean I really want to talk
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through this a lot but just for a second
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I I just because of everyone's uh love
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of Gilda Radner and your whole cast but
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what but she just seems so likable I
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mean was she just really fun and just a
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genuine I mean all of you and Jane you
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know know I don't know there's just a
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likability of that whole cast but to
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speak to Gilda for a second well um she
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was a really good person that's nice and
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uh she was the person that you know made
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a fuss over your birthday
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and just
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um very sweet you know she and I found
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ourselves in some pickles which I talk
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about in my book oh and what is the name
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of the book maybe we'll get a big
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following here may you live in
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interesting times and
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um you know one was that when we did the
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New Orleans live from New Orleans
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special technology you know for doing
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green screen and shifting from one set
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to another was like a minute old and
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everything that could have gone wrong
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did but the days before during the
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rehearsal process Gilda and I were put
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into a room in a building at a part of
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town we did not know where we were we
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were scared to go out because we were
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literally getting mobbed and we were in
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this room with nothing but chairs and a
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trash can with one of those Lids that
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used to step on a pedal and the lid goes
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up
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they've forgot about us for four hours
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we're in this room for four hours and
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Gilda turned that trash can into a
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puppet because that's the kind of person
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she was you know nice and uh God there's
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just so many times that she and I for
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some reason you know but we also just um
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you know would have breakfast together
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before we went into work and
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that's you know I think it comes across
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and I I don't know if Lauren honed this
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later or you think about there's the
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funny part there's a likability part and
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then there's the Charisma and finally
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there's how might they work together you
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know uh well they you know kind of like
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a sitcom you know you have this this key
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piece this piece this piece but I think
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everyone who's gone through that you
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never lose
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a certain kind of bond with your cast
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especially Unknown People not famous at
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all no money at all going on this
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television show and I was 10 years later
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in 86 but you don't you still feel that
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as pre decor with with your original
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cast if you run into danak reuter
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whoever or you know it's an
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extraordinary experience as you know it
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is an extraordinary experience and I
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always liken it to a Lifeboat where you
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know you all survive something
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some of us didn't but you all survived
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something that was very extraordinary I
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was I was on Dennis Miller's show a
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couple weeks ago and we talked about the
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very same thing and I he mentioned the
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movie The Right Stuff which I think of
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this scene every time people ask about
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the camaraderie of the cast and the
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closeness where they're backstage I
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think Lyndon Johnson is introducing them
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many times yes that scene where they're
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backstage and they're all just kind of
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looking at one another like I guess we
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we did this thing that nobody else has
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ever done yeah you know and obviously
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I'm not comparing our show space
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exploration but you know it was the same
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feeling well I would say you know uh
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without that analogy but in terms of
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Show Business uh especially as the show
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grew live I remember just doing a cold
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opening and one as the president or
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whatever
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and just the whole weight of the show is
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on you and then there's that Joe disco
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fight disco five seconds and you're just
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you're like floating and then you're
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then your card and hoping that you're
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articulating that is a lot of pressure
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you know I think in in Show Business I
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don't know if there's any more anything
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that currently exists live like that and
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they won't came from that background I'm
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sorry what did you say about uh
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everything I say is important so
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everyone has to listen closely
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um I was just saying that when Dana and
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I were on
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there was a chance you could get famous
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or being just being on it you would get
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a little bump in Fame even if you
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suddenly didn't click or whatever but
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with you guys you seem like a very sweet
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woman and Gilda and all those people
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together and not knowing that it's such
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a Whopper and and getting the biggest
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hit out of it that anyone's gotten must
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message your head like you were saying
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just walk in the street or getting
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breakfast and you feel like do I deserve
00:19:31
this or why what's going on here and why
00:19:34
are so many people thinking this is so
00:19:36
great even though you think it's fun but
00:19:38
I think it I don't think anyone can prep
00:19:40
for that
00:19:41
well you kind of I mean since you're
00:19:43
part of this era it really when you
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think about
00:19:46
um the evolution of Comedy from Laugh-In
00:19:49
and Lauren used to say it's [ __ ]
00:19:51
Carol Burnett I'm sure he loves Carol
00:19:53
Burnett but he but he had a thing about
00:19:55
breaking in scenes when we were there
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didn't want you to break yeah but the
00:19:59
rock and roll George Carlin Richard
00:20:01
Pryor thing had started and then it all
00:20:04
of a sudden this sketch show manifests
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itself with this kind of post 1960s
00:20:09
early 70s comedy sensibility right what
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was alt comedy that's what I've come to
00:20:14
realize is that yes you had your show of
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shows in Carol Burnett and you know
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laughing but those were really
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mainstream and written by actors writers
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that were not our age did not have our
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references or sensibility and this was
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truly uh an amalgam of a bunch of really
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great minds like Michael O'Donoghue and
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Herb sergeant and you know Franklin and
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Davis and all these amazing people whose
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tone and style had never been seen
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before and then you also have the
00:20:47
references that we all came with I mean
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you know I came with these characters
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that I had done at the Groundlings and
00:20:53
so you act you know you talk about the
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format that's exactly what I came from
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as doing a sketch running off stage in
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the dark changing my costume coming back
00:21:02
in the dark lights come up and you go I
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mean that's what I came from and that's
00:21:07
you know Jane came from the proposition
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you know uh Gilda came from Second City
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in the Lampoon show so you know we all
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had that background
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[Music]
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did you um were you the first or one of
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the first on television to do the valley
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girl voice kind of or it it feels like I
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mean because that is still around and
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it's it's organic you're welcome uh yeah
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how did you how did you hatch that where
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did that come from that was in your
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early growling time I had always noticed
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even in high school that the people from
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the valley spoke differently and my twin
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brother was a surfer he still is
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actually and um so I'd go to the beach
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with him every once in a while and you
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know there was this whole thing about
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the valley Surfers versus the Malibu
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Surfers and the West Side Surfers and
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you know but I did my ear picked up
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because I'd always loved dialects I'd
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always picked up on them there was you
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know when I was four years old there was
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an Orange Julius stand in in Westwood
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Village run by this Scottish couple who
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would say things to me like would you
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like your hot dog steamed or grilled and
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I would just you know grab onto that
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kind of you were doing that at age four
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I wasn't doing it I was noticing it yeah
00:22:26
you know but then I was I did start
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doing dialects very young but uh that
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was yeah I started hearing that Valley
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accent and realizing that it was a very
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unique accent
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so many people have used it I mean it's
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just yeah
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were you I I'm I'm familiarized me with
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your take on it did you do the thing oh
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my God or how did you process it that
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became later I don't know who did that
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but no I think that uh Moon Unit did oh
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my God okay
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um but
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um you know I break down that dialect in
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my book and um which is called you
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should have an interesting life may you
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live an interesting time now you live an
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interesting life right now on everywhere
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books are sold Ray Newman audible
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um and uh you know contractions like
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wouldn't shouldn't or couldn't would
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become one shouldn't and couldn't you
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know and ing endings were e-en so I'm
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going there and things like that it's
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just and then there was also words like
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bitching and super that came before you
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know like in my monologue uh in The
00:23:38
Godfather group there for sketch I said
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you know I had to get super reflective
00:23:43
you know it was that that was the
00:23:46
language and the dialect that I kind of
00:23:48
that was great oh yeah that is still
00:23:51
around that was like super reflective
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can do that again I had to get super
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reflective God even that like voice
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grainy
00:24:00
um that that's out there too with every
00:24:02
girl in The Bachelor but yes Lorraine
00:24:05
what is underneath that I just want to
00:24:07
know for a second the process I mean
00:24:08
like
00:24:09
someone who talks like that is it is it
00:24:11
an elitism or is it uh trying to be cool
00:24:14
or what what is kind of behind someone
00:24:16
who would
00:24:18
change their voice like I'm just
00:24:20
thinking out loud like I don't think
00:24:21
people change their voice to it I don't
00:24:23
think they change their voice to it I
00:24:25
think that it becomes ubiquitous yeah
00:24:28
and there's a is there a charm to them
00:24:30
sexuality to it is I'm just wondering
00:24:32
why where it came from but anyway we may
00:24:34
never figure that out exactly it doesn't
00:24:36
charm me one [ __ ] bit but does the
00:24:39
stoner dude the male version was like
00:24:41
most likely what you're talking about
00:24:43
man this is crazy dude if she does that
00:24:46
then everything even moon it's all sort
00:24:49
of a spin-off of that ground laying the
00:24:51
groundwork like you know someone doing
00:24:53
Lauren the first time or Christopher
00:24:55
Walken and everyone's kind of doing that
00:24:57
version but you're laying everyone's
00:25:00
like oh that's a thing now so they're
00:25:02
kind of playing off that one and
00:25:04
building on it
00:25:08
he loved that character he absolutely
00:25:11
loved it and wanted to do something with
00:25:13
it and it just never happened and he's
00:25:15
also he was from Cucamonga he was from
00:25:18
the valley so he absolutely you know I
00:25:22
did him once on the show and Michael
00:25:25
Michael Thomas did such a great job with
00:25:27
my makeup and I came out of the room and
00:25:29
Eric Clapton was in the hallway sorry
00:25:31
folks name dropping but that's what
00:25:32
Saturday Michael Thomas he was my guy
00:25:36
brilliant funny so [ __ ] funny vampire
00:25:40
teeth for me Diddy oh Michael Thomas for
00:25:43
everyone listening was one of the
00:25:45
quintessential brilliant makeup artists
00:25:48
and he could move so fast and do little
00:25:50
things and you'd sit in the chair and
00:25:52
you'd get more and more into character
00:25:53
and he would keep doing stuff and then
00:25:54
he had such a funny ear I was doing a
00:25:57
show a few years later and I was asked
00:25:59
to do all these classic Impressions like
00:26:01
Groucho Marx it was a Easter special I
00:26:03
was rich little and I didn't really have
00:26:05
of him and so he he taught me Jack Benny
00:26:08
and then I would go out and do Jack
00:26:09
Benny and he said that's how you do
00:26:11
Groucho so he also had an ear and he
00:26:13
loved monsters but God Rest his soul
00:26:14
yeah loved him loved him so glad you had
00:26:17
a connection with him he was such a
00:26:19
great you did you start the Groundlings
00:26:21
or you were part of the founding people
00:26:23
yeah one of the founding members that's
00:26:26
great that's so cool
00:26:28
yeah who knew so SNL is like the
00:26:31
Groundlings but suddenly when you leave
00:26:34
everyone has seen it it's so funny you
00:26:36
can do a a sketch walk in your room and
00:26:38
someone could text you and say great one
00:26:40
I was in Oklahoma I just saw it you're
00:26:42
like
00:26:43
such a mind blower yeah there's a
00:26:46
there's a thing going on in the
00:26:47
growlings now where people would stay in
00:26:49
the main company and they just wouldn't
00:26:51
leave and even though it's like you know
00:26:53
they're on series television now they
00:26:55
just don't leave so that what they
00:26:57
started to do to get them to leave was
00:26:59
to do a retrospective and a celebration
00:27:01
to just
00:27:05
and I always marveled at the technology
00:27:07
because they had the the you know
00:27:10
ability to film their sketches and we
00:27:13
did our 40th anniversary the the people
00:27:17
from the 1970s we just did straight
00:27:19
improv because there was no we had never
00:27:22
filmed any of our sketches but later on
00:27:25
of course everybody had you know early
00:27:27
Melissa McCarthy early Kristen Wiig
00:27:29
early Maya Rudolph you know it was just
00:27:32
great stuff to see
00:27:34
I wish that when I was there and it was
00:27:36
sort of with all of us
00:27:38
if you missed a sketch then you waited
00:27:42
for the rerun six months later and if
00:27:44
the uh if you missed it again you might
00:27:46
have been in the best of in the summer
00:27:48
but that's a long shot and now I don't
00:27:51
get to see the show as much so if Monday
00:27:54
on Yahoo News or wherever you are on
00:27:56
your computer sometimes it just says yes
00:27:57
here's a sketch from and they give you
00:27:59
the best one and then you go oh the show
00:28:02
is pretty funny still even though who
00:28:04
knows how much of the show it's always
00:28:05
like hit and miss but you that keeps it
00:28:08
alive I think that's a big part of why
00:28:09
it's still out there and still killing
00:28:11
it well now it's uh 1.6 billion YouTube
00:28:14
hits last year for their season which is
00:28:17
extraordinary and then now it's now it I
00:28:20
don't know if it still is but peacock I
00:28:22
think you can watch it live at 8 30 on
00:28:23
the west coast so uh it's it's evolved
00:28:26
in so many ways the interesting part
00:28:28
about you and Gilda and and Jane being
00:28:32
the first women and there's all these
00:28:34
you know the the society has evolved and
00:28:38
we were talking to Ana gasteyer who's
00:28:40
another great performer uh and just the
00:28:43
idea that how many women have emerged in
00:28:46
such a big way in the last 20 years is
00:28:49
some of the ones you were mentioning but
00:28:51
it was three on your cast Then There
00:28:53
Were there was those intermediate casts
00:28:54
I know Julie Louise Dreyfus was on we
00:28:57
had
00:28:58
um Jan Hooks Nora Dunn and Victoria
00:29:00
Jackson oh yeah Jim hooks we she's
00:29:04
Supernatural
00:29:05
Jan Hooks
00:29:08
so unbelievably funny yeah just just
00:29:12
balls out funny oh God and and uh funny
00:29:17
off stage we had so many laughs we would
00:29:19
just get you know when you get so tired
00:29:21
in a stressful job like that you get
00:29:23
laughed laugh laughing fits oh yeah like
00:29:26
like your little kids I remember one
00:29:28
time Phil had a suit on the late great
00:29:30
Phil Hartman and we called them the glue
00:29:32
because he was like our Danny Aykroyd or
00:29:34
something yeah what do you what do you
00:29:36
need this week you know and he didn't
00:29:38
even it was effortless for Phil but Jan
00:29:40
and I just saw his his tie or something
00:29:43
we've just it's like we were stoned we
00:29:44
were so tired
00:29:47
it is you're just so weak you can't not
00:29:51
laugh I have a question about Lorraine
00:29:54
about you know we had in our run Chris
00:29:57
Farley you guys had John Belushi and Jen
00:30:00
Chris looked up to John so much
00:30:03
um
00:30:03
because they were sort of you know
00:30:05
bigger guys and physic very very
00:30:07
physical I remember even in in wardrobe
00:30:11
he would find pants for a sketch and
00:30:13
he'd look at it and it would say Belushi
00:30:15
they still had them God and he'd wear
00:30:17
them and then he'd wear his pants over
00:30:19
those because he wanted to have anything
00:30:22
and at one point I said Chris you're as
00:30:25
good as Belushi I mean I hate to sound
00:30:27
like Blasphemous but I go we we all love
00:30:30
Belushi and I go Chris you're at the
00:30:32
point where we go down the street it
00:30:33
it's you're so good that I would put you
00:30:36
in the same
00:30:37
here
00:30:42
's the thing that I have to say about
00:30:44
all of that because when I hear people
00:30:46
say your cast was the best cast I say no
00:30:50
the cast that was on when you were an
00:30:52
adolescent is the best because they've
00:30:55
always had great casts always always had
00:30:59
great casts and great writers and you
00:31:02
know I mean guys your years had
00:31:05
you guys and the people around you there
00:31:09
have always been great casts and people
00:31:11
that don't even know ours they said
00:31:13
we're bad and then later they say we're
00:31:15
good it's so funny that when we're there
00:31:16
they're like you missed the good people
00:31:18
they were just here you guys suck and
00:31:20
then later Saturday Night Live dead
00:31:23
to the left that that never ended long
00:31:27
goes Saturday night dead it's gonna get
00:31:30
every year it'll be a headline
00:31:32
that's a good impression I cannot Dana
00:31:34
do it he's the guy the problem uh with
00:31:37
uh the critics they're they're like
00:31:39
really into their own thing it's that
00:31:41
thing of like you know you have to be
00:31:43
um really light on your feet it'd be
00:31:45
nice if this sketch was like uh you know
00:31:47
funny would be a good thing we love
00:31:50
Lawrence sarcasm did he overcome saying
00:31:53
things like absolutely or no no no no no
00:31:56
no no no no no no no no no
00:31:58
we definitely have no no no no don't
00:32:00
misunderstand me mostly would be exactly
00:32:02
if you were telling him something
00:32:04
exactly well you know he was always the
00:32:07
same but uh now that we we have data now
00:32:10
we have almost 50 years of this show
00:32:12
it's hard to imagine another human
00:32:15
individual
00:32:17
navigating it like Lauren he was so good
00:32:19
with the network and all that part of it
00:32:22
he was very good with the hosts and he
00:32:24
also is I think because he's a a very
00:32:27
very smart guy he could get all those
00:32:30
ivy league guys to come in and respect
00:32:32
him you know the Harvard guys because I
00:32:35
went to San Francisco State but everyone
00:32:36
you know they would all giggle when I
00:32:37
would mispronounce a word and read
00:32:39
through and I go you [ __ ] I'll get
00:32:41
you on the step that was intimidating I
00:32:43
don't know if that you guys you guys had
00:32:44
great writers Lorraine but it got it got
00:32:46
very harvardy when I was there from
00:32:49
Scottsdale Community College and I could
00:32:50
just tell it was very clear I was in
00:32:52
over my head and it takes a while
00:32:55
to to to figure out like I don't know if
00:32:58
you wrote but yeah I think you did but
00:32:59
how to write a sketch or how to fit in
00:33:01
with these guys and just get to the
00:33:02
level
00:33:03
I just want to go and read through and
00:33:05
say I don't want everyone to go what the
00:33:07
[ __ ] who wrote this I just wanted to be
00:33:09
like oh we're not doing it but it's sort
00:33:11
of mixed into the bunch you know because
00:33:14
sometimes I I would write something
00:33:16
and I didn't know how to write and I
00:33:17
just got that yellow pad and
00:33:19
they would be like that's eight pages
00:33:21
too long I'm like well no one is talking
00:33:23
to me oh my God no one tells you
00:33:26
anything was that the same when you were
00:33:28
there in the 70s we have to you have to
00:33:29
learn it yourself or ask other cast
00:33:31
members absolutely yeah nobody tells you
00:33:33
anything and
00:33:35
um I didn't quite get that it would be
00:33:37
good if I were to align myself with a
00:33:40
writer who could really get me but yeah
00:33:43
fortunately it worked out that way
00:33:44
anyway and O'Donoghue and Schiller and
00:33:47
and Rosie Schuster they really wrote
00:33:50
beautifully for me and you know I
00:33:53
brought us some of the material that I
00:33:54
had done to the Groundlings I brought
00:33:56
there but that was basically how it
00:33:58
worked because I did not know how I the
00:34:01
things I did in the Groundlings were
00:34:03
what we now call in ones or down lefts
00:34:06
which were just character monologues
00:34:07
yeah I am a shitty improviser shitty you
00:34:12
know uh so you know I don't know
00:34:15
improvise on Saturday Night Live but you
00:34:17
don't improvise yeah people think but
00:34:19
but backstage you do you know just for a
00:34:22
second Rosie Schuster came back Lauren's
00:34:25
ex-wife one of them and she was assigned
00:34:28
to me I just done this character in my
00:34:30
stand-up I didn't do it all day long I
00:34:32
never wore a dress was this church lady
00:34:33
person oh my God we we sat for a couple
00:34:37
weeks
00:34:37
you know making the talk show out of it
00:34:39
and she was the one who said ah Church
00:34:42
chat you know and she was very very good
00:34:45
oh yeah yeah writer yeah really
00:34:48
beautiful yeah so that Lauren loves that
00:34:51
when the writers in the cast get
00:34:52
together and I actually talked to a
00:34:54
young cast member recently wanted to
00:34:56
talk to me I won't say you know who it
00:34:59
was who's currently on the show and
00:35:01
struggling a little bit with the process
00:35:03
I said well
00:35:04
five whatever your rhythm of your
00:35:06
character is you know collect your your
00:35:07
hooks or or what what makes it funny and
00:35:10
crunchy to you seek out a writer that
00:35:13
has influence and and maybe would want
00:35:16
so at the ground floor but while the
00:35:18
sketch is being written your rhythms are
00:35:20
being integrated don't wait where
00:35:21
they've written jokes and you're trying
00:35:23
to put your character into it exactly
00:35:25
make sure you do it together so it
00:35:26
sounds like you had that with Michael
00:35:28
Donahue and Rosie and all the rest yeah
00:35:31
that's one Lauren loves that thing too
00:35:33
it's it's like it's like the Congress
00:35:35
and the Senate are getting along or
00:35:37
something once he doesn't want one side
00:35:38
to dominate too much yeah well Conan
00:35:41
O'Brien talks about not knowing how to
00:35:43
write a sketch and how he really started
00:35:45
out by just like
00:35:47
telling somebody's stories and people
00:35:50
say yeah you should write that as a
00:35:51
sketch yeah but you know the idea that
00:35:54
any any writer would come there not
00:35:56
knowing how to write a sketch well I
00:35:58
audition should be on the show and then
00:36:00
they say we're me and Rob Schneider and
00:36:02
they go you're hired but you're they
00:36:04
liked your stand-up but they like the
00:36:06
writing of it so which is not which is
00:36:09
good and bad news because they go he
00:36:10
wants to be a writer performer and then
00:36:11
they go oh maybe Chevy was I don't know
00:36:14
who was but he was just hired as a
00:36:16
writer Chevy was just a real writer yes
00:36:19
Simon Garrett and Chevy were hired as
00:36:22
writers
00:36:23
oh I did not know that that's cool how
00:36:27
long till Billy came home was it three
00:36:28
years no uh actually it was uh right
00:36:32
away yeah because Chevy did like one and
00:36:35
a half season oh yeah yeah whatever he
00:36:37
was on the cover of time or whatever he
00:36:39
was he just blew up from the show yeah
00:36:42
and then he always regretted leaving you
00:36:44
know when he would come back and host he
00:36:46
talked about wishing he'd stayed longer
00:36:47
sure for sure I mean it's hard once you
00:36:50
leave it you can never go back you know
00:36:52
once you what once you leave SNL you're
00:36:55
never gonna do I thought you said once
00:36:57
you Diva you never come back oh funny
00:37:01
nuts
00:37:03
that's better than what I just said so I
00:37:06
did say that Lorraine what's your Diva
00:37:08
but once you leave you can't go back to
00:37:10
that experientially and it it haunts
00:37:13
your whole career life in some ways
00:37:15
because it's New York it's it's the
00:37:17
grease pain it's there's a horse in the
00:37:18
show and someone's juggling and it's all
00:37:20
chaotic and weird and there's just
00:37:22
nothing quite like that intensity
00:37:25
of how hard it is and you go I could do
00:37:29
that and then you leave I'm sure it's
00:37:31
Chevy after years like and he sees the
00:37:33
show stays huge and even huge and you're
00:37:36
like [ __ ] that was fun I was in that I
00:37:37
was in the mix yeah that's the thing is
00:37:40
sketch comedy is so fun yeah you know I
00:37:44
mean when I when I was back for the 40th
00:37:46
just doing sketches all right so goddamn
00:37:50
fun oh yeah it's just and the people you
00:37:52
get to work with are always super sharp
00:37:54
funny yes you get to look around and go
00:37:57
goddammit all these people are great and
00:37:59
then you then they go on to do great
00:38:00
things and you go [ __ ] everyone was good
00:38:02
I was not wrong it feels like it's more
00:38:05
pressure now but you guys to do when did
00:38:07
you for yourself Lorraine so you're on
00:38:09
the show and the show's not the show yet
00:38:11
but you're becoming rock stars when did
00:38:14
you know I think the audience starts to
00:38:15
discover and they discovered Chevy first
00:38:18
probably because he was on update and
00:38:19
had an in one at home base it was like
00:38:21
very potent Chevy but when do you feel
00:38:24
like when did you personally get
00:38:26
comfortable you feel like were you
00:38:28
comfortable right away I took me I feel
00:38:30
like 60 shows 60 to get I I'd say I was
00:38:35
better after the third season fourth
00:38:37
season I mean to be really having fun to
00:38:40
go back full circle to like just
00:38:42
enjoying it because everything is
00:38:43
picking in wigs and going and then the
00:38:45
cards and changing to get relaxed how
00:38:48
did you feel you had a breakthrough with
00:38:50
a certain character I mean was it the
00:38:51
Coneheads or any sketch you remember
00:38:53
where I've got this we're we're winning
00:38:55
we're a winning team we're rock stars or
00:38:58
maybe it was immediate for you guys no I
00:39:00
was very young and I was very
00:39:02
inexperienced you're like 21 or
00:39:04
something no I was 23 but I was a very
00:39:06
young 20 years
00:39:07
I was a young 23. that's what I have to
00:39:10
say about that but um I was very
00:39:13
inexperienced and I did not have a lot
00:39:16
of confidence and so um I can't say that
00:39:20
I ever got to a place where I felt
00:39:22
comfortable
00:39:23
um when I was when I I was doing
00:39:26
something either that I wrote or that I
00:39:29
really had an offended 34 and felt like
00:39:31
I could score with those were great
00:39:33
times I mean Marilyn Miller wrote this
00:39:35
Barbra Streisand song for me and I was
00:39:38
just thinking about it the other day
00:39:39
because someone was talking about uh I
00:39:42
think it was the documentary on Mr
00:39:44
Kelly's and that Barbra Streisand does
00:39:46
the intro on that and I was thinking you
00:39:49
know
00:39:50
um it was a complicated song I was the
00:39:53
only one who could sing a little bit
00:39:55
better than everybody else of the girls
00:39:58
and I just remember afterwards uh that
00:40:02
kind of explosive Applause when it was
00:40:04
over and as I'm bowing and my legs are
00:40:07
shaking you know it was such a great
00:40:10
moment and experience to have but I
00:40:14
didn't have a lot of those you know yeah
00:40:16
did you like singing did you sit with
00:40:19
someone we had Cheryl
00:40:21
oh sure Mark Shaman we had Cheryl and
00:40:24
Mark Shaman and Mark Shaman worked on
00:40:26
the show he did while I was there for a
00:40:28
couple years then he went off and did
00:40:30
movies but he was there with Cheryl I
00:40:33
didn't know that this is just for people
00:40:36
listening we you know you if there's a
00:40:38
musical number it's so much fun to sit
00:40:40
down let's just say Cheryl was so
00:40:42
wonderful and she could just play or
00:40:45
anything and you had a song you wanted
00:40:47
to do I think she said she did Black
00:40:49
Magic Woman is that Santana I don't know
00:40:52
who did that she played the chords
00:40:54
backwards for the church chat theme oh
00:40:58
my God how brilliant but she would help
00:41:00
you with notes and no you were going to
00:41:02
harmonize we're playing Cowboys and
00:41:04
we're harmonizing Woody Harrelson and
00:41:05
she would help you and I'll speak to the
00:41:08
you I want to hear your experiences I
00:41:09
had one freaky thing of I was in a booth
00:41:12
with Willie Nelson he had his old guitar
00:41:15
and then he was learning uh a song Maybe
00:41:19
I didn't you know learn it in real time
00:41:22
oh wow you have those kinds of moments
00:41:25
you in terms of the movies the the hosts
00:41:27
that came along in those five years who
00:41:30
what does anyone stick out or
00:41:32
oh the host the host because you're then
00:41:35
you're meeting like you had the monster
00:41:37
stars come through it's unreal
00:41:39
Richard
00:41:41
Pryor I had met Richard Pryor when I was
00:41:43
14 because he was friends with my sister
00:41:45
oh and he was playing the Troubadour
00:41:48
guys the Troubadour he was playing the
00:41:50
Troubadour
00:41:51
yeah yeah so I met him when I was 14 so
00:41:55
when he came to host the show I was like
00:41:57
ah I'm Tracy Newman's little sister do
00:42:01
you remember me yeah and he was so great
00:42:04
to me he was just he was sweet always
00:42:07
like there are three people who are my
00:42:09
main influences Eve Arden Madeleine Khan
00:42:12
and Richard Pryor those are like the
00:42:15
Holy Trinity for me Madeline Collins and
00:42:17
other monsters did she come host
00:42:19
twice oh how great so yeah so they that
00:42:23
how so that that's the exact example of
00:42:25
what happens during Saturday Night Live
00:42:27
so you have this Mentor who doesn't know
00:42:29
and then you're now you're in a sketch
00:42:31
with them I know it's it's all surreal
00:42:33
right you know what about Lorraine did I
00:42:36
read that um
00:42:37
you were stopped I mean this is where
00:42:39
your career just hits a Zenith when you
00:42:41
got stopped by John and Yoko is that
00:42:43
true yeah I was uh I was coming from a
00:42:47
photo session with Francisco scavolo
00:42:50
Jesus
00:42:52
for the urethra with jewelrybug and I'm
00:42:58
walking through the lobby of 30 Rock and
00:43:00
through my peripheral vision I see these
00:43:02
two forms and they come into Focus John
00:43:05
and Yoko
00:43:06
and as they pass in Front of Me John
00:43:09
goes hi Lorraine you know not a high
00:43:13
high Lorraine you know wow and I was
00:43:17
like Lou Costello in those Series
00:43:23
yeah yeah that's exactly what I was like
00:43:28
you know there were so many
00:43:30
intersections that happened to have my
00:43:33
casts with different people and Paul
00:43:34
McCartney and so forth but yeah I was
00:43:36
always Bittersweet I would love love to
00:43:38
have met John oh my God yeah Christopher
00:43:42
Lee was the person that I was very
00:43:44
excited to meet I had lobbied for him to
00:43:47
be a host for three years but it wasn't
00:43:50
until he was in a James Bond movie that
00:43:52
he put him in and God was he a great
00:43:55
host
00:43:56
of course he immediately said I do not
00:43:58
want to do Dracula
00:44:01
wow yeah
00:44:04
yeah I'm going to play Coco the clown I
00:44:08
don't want to do directly it's not
00:44:10
something right and I was just saying
00:44:11
that because when Stephen hosted I think
00:44:14
I got a bad rap of being quoted and
00:44:16
sometimes these stories that that's our
00:44:19
worst host but the truth is I did like
00:44:22
Steven Seagal and I liked his movies and
00:44:24
I was just trying I was I was saying he
00:44:27
was sort of known to others as a bad
00:44:29
host he wouldn't roll with a flow and I
00:44:31
think both of you know that the best
00:44:33
thing to do with your host is to just
00:44:34
put your hands up and go what do you
00:44:35
want me to do and if you're a
00:44:36
Christopher Lee we'll make a track that
00:44:39
we won't make you look like an [ __ ]
00:44:40
this will be a funny version people like
00:44:41
it and he wouldn't do any karate
00:44:44
a monologue and we wanted to do kung fu
00:44:47
fighting and or something stupid and he
00:44:50
and he just was latching on to wanting
00:44:52
to be cool and and I got what he was
00:44:54
saying he's like that's I have an image
00:44:56
and it was just too hard to to trust us
00:44:59
and talk him out of that that's all he
00:45:01
wasn't a bad guy to me well I I didn't
00:45:03
mean to imply that he was difficult he
00:45:05
was absolutely great sure but a lot of
00:45:08
people don't want to do that yeah that's
00:45:10
what I'm saying a lot a lot of people
00:45:12
just say
00:45:13
they get on there or the music we had
00:45:16
that a lot the music doesn't want to do
00:45:17
their hit song if you want to go you get
00:45:19
two songs you could do whatever you want
00:45:21
on the second one but the first one can
00:45:24
you please do your hit you know it's
00:45:27
kind of want to go when a when a host
00:45:28
comes in like you know there's an
00:45:30
athlete or we had a we had George
00:45:32
Steinbrenner a billionaire owns the New
00:45:34
York Yankees so George stembrier so he's
00:45:37
got kind of you know he's a billionaire
00:45:38
he's George and and uh Al Franken
00:45:41
pitched him something to the effect in
00:45:44
the sketch he would be on all fours in a
00:45:47
diaper with a dog collar it's funny
00:45:52
just you're like apple he's not gonna do
00:45:56
that
00:45:57
well I think it's really funny remember
00:45:58
Conan was saying at dinner the other
00:46:00
night we saw Conan he was saying he he
00:46:02
was he and Bob Odenkirk had to go pitch
00:46:05
to George scheinbrenner and he and he
00:46:07
[ __ ] hated it and said I'm not doing
00:46:08
that [ __ ] get out of here and they leave
00:46:10
and Lauren goes give it another try what
00:46:13
go back again
00:46:14
oh my God I did a sketch once it was
00:46:18
during Matthew
00:46:20
um Broderick married to uh Sarah Jessica
00:46:22
Parker Matthew Broderick so we were all
00:46:26
bare chested in diapers in the sketch
00:46:28
and so and this so the sketch bombs I
00:46:33
mean it really bombs I mean it's dead
00:46:35
quiet and then you have to walk off
00:46:37
there's no it's too busy no one puts a
00:46:39
rope you're walking through eight eights
00:46:41
through the audience with a big diaper
00:46:43
on it and sketched it just [ __ ] itself
00:46:46
and then I looked at an audience member
00:46:49
did a little like hey how you doing a
00:46:50
little wave and they looked away
00:46:55
[Music]
00:47:08
your next lines coming like we should
00:47:11
end it right now it's going nowhere
00:47:15
kills a dress and then on air you're
00:47:18
like what happened I know that's the
00:47:21
worst well that's the Alchemy of the
00:47:23
show you know [ __ ] well it's sometimes
00:47:26
the dress show is so hot and you're like
00:47:29
uh I don't like this yeah because then
00:47:31
the air show is not so hot and a lot of
00:47:33
invited guests and then all of a sudden
00:47:35
the same and it's a half the laugh and
00:47:38
then you've gotten spoiled with the
00:47:39
dress show but sometimes the air
00:47:41
audience was the best so you never knew
00:47:43
but it was a high wire Act
00:47:47
[Music]
00:47:48
Lorraine I don't keep you forever but do
00:47:50
you ever do you ever get mad and say
00:47:52
Maps
00:47:54
say what
00:47:56
what are you saying Coneheads Maps
00:48:03
um I've been saying it wrong I've been
00:48:05
saying it wrong every time I stub my toe
00:48:07
that's all right I was in Coneheads I
00:48:10
was in the Coneheads really yeah I
00:48:12
played that's great that's right I
00:48:14
played you were in the call I wasn't in
00:48:16
that one but I I just it was almost jury
00:48:19
duty it was everybody it was Ellen
00:48:22
Degeneres Phil Sinbad Schneider sounds
00:48:26
too big I was too big at the time and I
00:48:28
had a beach house and I didn't really
00:48:31
um I was turning down a lot of things
00:48:33
I'm just processing this idea of when it
00:48:37
came out the idea that the character's
00:48:40
name was what the character was so the
00:48:42
coneds had Coneheads so I always loved
00:48:46
that and that's why I said the church
00:48:48
lady is the church lady you know or
00:48:50
people were talking to people
00:48:51
he plays like a church lady
00:48:54
right it well didn't did that I mean did
00:48:57
Carol Burnett and uh Flip Wilson or
00:48:59
whatever did they do that because that
00:49:01
was the first time I saw it it's a
00:49:03
certain knowing dry silliness that the
00:49:06
character's name is what the character
00:49:08
is that pre-date SNL but I love that
00:49:11
about it no I don't know I don't know
00:49:14
Dana I don't know what happened with
00:49:17
Flip Wilson
00:49:18
exactly
00:49:20
I love all those variety shows
00:49:23
Lorraine do you laugh when you when
00:49:25
you're going to do Coneheads in
00:49:27
rehearsal does it kill at the table or
00:49:29
it where is there any weirdness along
00:49:31
the week going what if this just does
00:49:33
not work
00:49:34
I adored Danny's writing I absolutely
00:49:38
adored it and he could do no wrong as
00:49:42
far as I was concerned even if it was
00:49:44
like something really subtle and tasty
00:49:47
that I knew the audience would not get
00:49:49
that was fine that is fun too because
00:49:52
you know some of those sketches you're
00:49:54
like I don't care how it does I love it
00:49:55
we need to do it and Lauren's good at
00:49:58
keeping stuff like that on he's like
00:50:00
yeah I don't care if it doesn't work
00:50:01
this is what we this represents us
00:50:03
that's a good Jack Handy used to write a
00:50:06
lot of really weird ones and we all love
00:50:07
to read through and he goes that's part
00:50:09
of the magic of the show is that that
00:50:11
sensibility is allowed even if it
00:50:13
doesn't kill and yeah Dan Aykroyd would
00:50:16
write these long he would talk really
00:50:18
super fast and have all this language
00:50:20
coming out God damn you know and you'd
00:50:23
have to just figure out later what he
00:50:24
was saying but the coneds was silly and
00:50:26
it was I mean
00:50:28
how many times did you think you did
00:50:29
that did it seemed like it was on a lot
00:50:31
gosh I I do not know I just know that
00:50:34
the one time that we did an extended
00:50:37
version where we filmed us going back to
00:50:39
remulac
00:50:40
yeah we uh we had never been in the
00:50:44
cones longer than the length of a sketch
00:50:46
but this was like a whole day and the
00:50:49
spirit gum [ __ ] started to burn ah you
00:50:54
know this is where it was anchored here
00:50:56
yeah oh my God and so you know Jane and
00:51:02
Danny were in the front seat and they
00:51:03
just started smoking weed
00:51:05
and I was in the back seat and we are on
00:51:08
a location or something yes we were
00:51:10
shooting on locations oh I'd be
00:51:12
terrified I'll improvised too because
00:51:14
you know we didn't get permits we went
00:51:16
to a gas station
00:51:20
the the gasoline but you know it was
00:51:23
like gorilla because she had got no
00:51:26
permits or anything like that and you're
00:51:27
in your outfit you're a giant head and
00:51:29
everything walking around I got a
00:51:30
question when you do Coneheads uh did
00:51:33
you have to do it either cold open or
00:51:35
after update because there's so much it
00:51:37
was always at the top of the show when I
00:51:39
did Gap girls it was so much work they
00:51:41
could only put it first
00:51:43
or after update because that's the
00:51:45
biggest chunk you have update and music
00:51:46
and that's like 12 minutes or something
00:51:48
and did you get stoned that day then
00:51:51
no idea
00:51:53
I've never I
00:51:55
never was able to perform hi I mean I
00:51:59
tried it with a couple beers once I
00:52:00
worked
00:52:02
giant Stone once didn't work I don't
00:52:04
know heroin is good for doing
00:52:06
sketchbooks
00:52:08
is what makes James Woods it's the math
00:52:12
is what informs his choices Marcy please
00:52:15
more popcorn anyway
00:52:17
um you know that thing that you said
00:52:18
about Lauren is very astute because that
00:52:21
is what causes an audience to come to
00:52:23
you yeah you know it's like you you
00:52:25
don't write for them you let them come
00:52:28
you write for us yeah and you let them
00:52:31
come to you and some things like like
00:52:33
cheeseburger cheeseburger one of those
00:52:35
like they that might not work the first
00:52:37
time there's a lot of sketches that
00:52:38
might not work and then by the time it
00:52:39
comes on you don't realize they really
00:52:40
did like it they had to watch it and
00:52:42
think about it and then their friends
00:52:44
talk about it and you go that is good it
00:52:46
gets it's kind of hooky or even if it's
00:52:48
not a catchphrase just a smart bit and
00:52:50
then you go oh [ __ ] that's bigger but
00:52:51
also that was active and high energy and
00:52:54
I've said this before but for me
00:52:55
personally when I was doing Johnny
00:52:57
Carson on the show and sort of a new way
00:52:59
great impression by the way thank you my
00:53:02
kind of my favorite thing because I did
00:53:06
I thought I enjoyed it so much and I had
00:53:08
Phil of course there
00:53:11
um that the
00:53:15
draftser yeah
00:53:18
you're watching a television and that's
00:53:22
how you're seeing the pictures we are
00:53:23
not actively in your living room you
00:53:25
know the eye how Johnny would include
00:53:27
everyone in the country in on stuff and
00:53:29
I didn't care and I was in my sixth
00:53:31
season or something but I wasn't
00:53:33
thinking whether it was going to get a
00:53:35
laugh because I intrinsically knew it
00:53:36
was so [ __ ] it was almost too funny
00:53:38
some things that I'll watch sometimes
00:53:41
are so funny that I know I'm gonna I
00:53:43
can't even laugh as hard as I wanna
00:53:45
laugh I'm gonna laugh later because you
00:53:47
want to hear it I want to hear it and it
00:53:49
hits you so hard but the rock and roll
00:53:51
sketches are easier it was or you look
00:53:54
at an old sketch like even from
00:53:55
Lorraine's seasons and you go
00:53:58
I didn't even really get that back then
00:54:00
like how funny it was like I was too
00:54:02
young and now you look back you go holy
00:54:03
[ __ ] that's so well done or smarter
00:54:06
because I was just like looking for the
00:54:08
easy jokes I'm younger you know and then
00:54:10
it then you get older and you start to
00:54:12
like different stuff but you go back and
00:54:14
go oh [ __ ] that was so good yeah that's
00:54:16
an interesting point I've experienced
00:54:18
that too yeah did you go on update a lot
00:54:21
and do characters
00:54:23
um I I did it a couple of times uh when
00:54:27
um
00:54:30
when Sid Vicious murdered his girlfriend
00:54:33
there's a hilarious topic go ahead I
00:54:36
went down there's his mother I went home
00:54:38
that's his mother saying that he was a
00:54:40
good boy you know and uh I think Brian
00:54:44
was Sid Vicious you know and he just had
00:54:48
the wig on it and he just looked
00:54:49
completely mad you know and I was just
00:54:52
going on I did my best you know I did my
00:54:55
best
00:54:56
I don't know I don't know we've had a
00:54:59
great time here oh my God
00:55:02
then of course I did the the the
00:55:05
reporter you know Lorraine Newman the
00:55:07
report which was kind of in that sort of
00:55:10
reporter dialect in a sense the language
00:55:12
of breaking news right now this is the
00:55:15
whole that kind of thing yeah chubby I'm
00:55:17
standing here you know I I always had
00:55:21
heard you know I I heard that song and
00:55:24
you know you know what I'm talking about
00:55:26
Dana the song that they do do that that
00:55:29
is a newscaster
00:55:37
oh God
00:55:41
you know it's it is a song I did it in
00:55:44
stand up and I don't know if I got it
00:55:46
from Robert Klein but it was a newsman
00:55:47
ordering dinner with his wife if I can
00:55:49
remember it was like a surprise kind of
00:55:51
my wife tonight he's at a restaurant two
00:55:53
Labs of steak medium rare and a couple
00:55:55
of black coffee instead of the
00:55:57
traditional cream and sugar I'll have my
00:55:59
coffee you did I must have done on a
00:56:02
talk show or something I could have done
00:56:03
it on a talk show or or stand up that's
00:56:06
a great bit uh I love I love I'm like
00:56:09
you I love all voices I love all
00:56:10
dialects and I so enjoy when I see uh
00:56:15
people do them on Saturday Night Live uh
00:56:17
the new Young cast member does a trump
00:56:19
that is so brilliant oh my God so and I
00:56:23
just that's like so funny and so
00:56:25
brilliant I I you know I I have to like
00:56:27
watch it later almost because he's doing
00:56:30
so many hooks excuse me and the people
00:56:31
who can a lot of people they're saying
00:56:33
many and he's doing all this great too
00:56:35
his Biden is just
00:56:37
huge stuff we can do this we can do it
00:56:41
now here's the deal my father lost his
00:56:43
job not kidding around here we can in
00:56:45
fact do better we can we're surprised
00:56:48
I'm I'm out of my mind
00:56:51
let me smell your hair Biden is an
00:56:53
interesting one you know the evolution
00:56:54
of doing a president is that the country
00:56:58
still has to get used to Biden the kind
00:57:01
of defensive guy is come out a little
00:57:03
bit angry and then befuddled all the
00:57:06
different flavors he has but we're still
00:57:08
discovering him the whisper thing and
00:57:10
then he goes kind of loud yeah and sort
00:57:12
of my dad would do that when he was 90.
00:57:14
it was kind of a patronizing whisper
00:57:16
because I know what I'm doing oh man
00:57:19
that's right we can do this
00:57:22
and number one the one part number two
00:57:25
with the guy said number three come on
00:57:27
folks remember he's always admonishing
00:57:29
us for not understanding
00:57:31
there's like a really really interesting
00:57:34
new cast members
00:57:36
yeah uh Chloe fine yeah she's a growling
00:57:39
she's a friend of my daughter Hannah's
00:57:41
I'm telling me about her for years so I
00:57:44
watched your daughter today she's she's
00:57:46
really really funny and talented I just
00:57:49
saw her on Colbert because I knew I was
00:57:51
going to be talking to you and she
00:57:53
reminds me of you there's a drill dry
00:57:55
yeah I mean there's uh just uh uh why
00:57:58
would you say this her stuff is very
00:57:59
smart you know thank you yes we're we're
00:58:03
just you know beside ourselves
00:58:06
um uh I I she she belongs there I mean
00:58:08
she's going to she is having a career
00:58:10
she's on Hacks now and she's just really
00:58:13
good and so I can't imagine what that
00:58:16
must feel like
00:58:18
to have a dog have someone have success
00:58:20
because you oh you look at her mom and
00:58:22
now you're the daughter and following a
00:58:24
big act to follow and she's doing great
00:58:27
well her Talent is completely different
00:58:29
than mine and my older child's Talent is
00:58:32
also there also they started doing
00:58:34
stand-up when they were 15. and they're
00:58:37
all they're on loss of spookies Julio's
00:58:39
show
00:58:41
um and uh they both their talent is
00:58:44
completely different than mine and that
00:58:46
is exciting to watch but you know my
00:58:49
only contribution really was when this
00:58:51
is so inappropriate but when I was
00:58:54
driving when I was driving them to
00:58:56
school I mean this is like grade school
00:58:58
I would play the scalar brothers and
00:59:01
Maria Bamford and Pat Oswald you know
00:59:04
yeah I mean
00:59:07
needed to be entertained damn it you
00:59:10
know I was not going to listen to radio
00:59:12
[ __ ] Disney
00:59:13
another second you know so you gave him
00:59:16
some good stand-ups wow yeah but your
00:59:19
daughter when she came on Colbert the
00:59:20
first time this is Hannah she did kind
00:59:23
of like a little story about her mom and
00:59:27
dad and sperm donors and stuff and it
00:59:29
was very very sketched that's why it
00:59:31
wasn't traditional stand up that's why
00:59:33
it reminded me of yes it's very
00:59:36
different and I saw her set at Dynasty
00:59:38
typewriter this last Sunday and it was
00:59:41
pretty much new material and
00:59:44
40 minutes set and it was so good and so
00:59:47
interesting and it's like how the hell
00:59:49
did you come up with that stuff
00:59:51
you know interesting wow well that's a a
00:59:53
great way to close the podcast because
00:59:55
that's good that's like this gigantic
00:59:57
Perfect full circle yeah talking about
01:00:00
that and you know the apple does not
01:00:03
fall very far from the tree you'll find
01:00:06
uh but anyway that's very sweet Lorraine
01:00:09
I'm so happy I think I met one of your
01:00:11
daughters or both of them at that Al
01:00:13
Franken thing we did it was probably
01:00:16
Hannah probably Hannah yeah she's you
01:00:19
know whatever just a sweet little girl
01:00:21
but now she's oh that's cool
01:00:24
um well I've really enjoyed this a lot
01:00:26
so fun you guys I really did and uh
01:00:29
thank you for having me too and good
01:00:31
luck with it I know it's it's a really
01:00:33
fun thing to do
01:00:36
check in next week where our guests will
01:00:38
be Ellen Cleghorn
01:00:40
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