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okay we've got uh Mark Marin Dana who I see a lot of The Comedy Store comedian obviously a huge podcaster one of the OG
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podcasters that had always you could always hear he's still going with it but you know it was all the big names all
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the interesting stuff um and I see him do standup all the time and I run into him a lot he's a good dude and uh we tal
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we were just curious about like he and Rogan and a few others kind of started
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in like ' 09 0809 or podcasting when it was just like a caveman with no audience
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and who would do that and then it grew to this boohemoth and I I he he got
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President Barack Obama on his podcast and to do his podcast he had to drive way up in the middle of
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nowhere in the middle of LA and uh so that was a big thing so we do talk about
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his his journey it wasn't easy all the time the podcast kind of saved him and
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he created uh I think he's done 1600 episodes he has a lot of stories and he's very self-winding watch like we
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didn't have to prompt too much he really had a lot of great things to talk about so yeah I was into it and that blew that
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that hour blew by so it went by fast he he's he knows he knows how to podcast he really told some good stories funny and
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uh it was it was interesting I I I would keep listening yeah so check them out
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here's Mark Maron [Music]
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yeah all these glasses I got other choices I got better ones are you in the same house you're in the same you have
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not moved since looks familiar this this is a different house
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but the stuff behind me probably looks familiar because all the stuff from that original garage is in this room are you
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in the same neighborhood can you don't have to tell us you're actual you want me to just send you a send you a link to
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a map where everybody can drop me a p well I already have a map in your house that'll be for it's called after talk
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anyway whatever no I'm in I'm in Glendale I was in Highland Park I got it
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yeah I like that place the old place yeah I mean it was casual and cool
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had guitars and I still a little more spread out before like it was like that
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was less than a thousand square feet one bathroom like if you had to go to the bathroom you had to go into the same
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bathroom that you know I use I live in a very small house everything you own owns
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your back I I'm not to it you occupy a house you live in your body you can't [ __ ] a house you can't eat it I I think
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you can [ __ ] a house it really just depends on where where you enter and I saw thing about it comedians don't laugh
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they just think what about the guy that married his car you know I just want I
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want to start the podcast this way every comedian knows this about you ah where
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were you David when you heard that Mark Marin has Barack Obama on his podcast
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because that was like what the [ __ ] because this was early days of podcasting right I remember being blown
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away by that I think most people were still kind of like what what is the podcast exactly and where do I got to go
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yeah totally it was 2012 right so it was it was 16 the number of people that used
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to come to that house would drive up to my driveway and literally say like where are we is this part of La I've never
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been out here what are we doing yeah I can't believe you got him out there because I can't believe he got me out
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there I can't believe he got Todd Glass out there so Obama was a bigger one yeah Rich Voss was right after Obama that was
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tough to get him out yeah it's it get hard sometimes was it a a ratings dropped so much you pulled a muscle or
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we just thought it was appropriate just to continue what we were doing all right we did one episode
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with where me and my producer discussed the day of having Obama on the podcast and we went right to Rich and I you know
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rich is going to pull what he's going to pull it's you know somewhere lower middle it's okay well rich is no offense
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to him I was just laughing like Whoever has to follow Obama is just gonna be a tough sledding that's all that's right I
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don't know if he I don't know if he thought about it like that rich is uh rich is a good guy I don't think he
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gives a sh so everyone be had a podcast now like literally so you you it's you and um Rogan right 2009 so I guess there
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was it was really like Corolla was there uh I don't I don't think started at the
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same I think Rogan started a little after us but uh like Jimmy Paro was there Benson Benson was probably there
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maybe Hardwick was like starting out but I think Rogan started a little after me but there was like four or five guys
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collectively not making money doing podcast you know Todd Glass is good at not making money and I think he had one
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early he's a good friend of mine right with with Jimmy door yeah so so that's
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I think what happened with that was he put in all that work and was very forward thinking and I think got out
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right before the money maybe is or does he still do it no I I think that's Todd's whole plan in general is to try
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to get out get ahead of making money yeah that's kind of but what's
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funny is I used to think uh a podcast because he had it my friend's car shop upstairs which he just rented which was
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perfect it was perfect yeah and uh the odd thing about the whole undertaking was none of us really there was really
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no money to be made you know Adam was like doing his radio show so he was kind
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of subsidized somehow did he get fired and said okay I'm just GNA do it on here kind of thing it was it 97.1 maybe or he
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got fed up mad about something something like that whatever he was all worked up and you know he was going to take his
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stories about you know drywalling from 20 years ago
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elsewhere he is a handyman that's funny he's he's good with a good
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with a tool oh yeah but but I was I was like I got a little bit of a tsunami
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warning because I remember I thought Corollas I think I went on there a little early where I was like before the
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real podcast thing was sort of hitting which right it was sort of a slow I I
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could get a feel for it before most people because everyone else has just got their head doing their work and they do normal jobs but I started to go oh no
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is this something and then uh I said I'm going to wait till it's a little late then we're going to try one so yeah no
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but but the good thing about when you guys got in is somebody realized like hey you guys have names you can't lose
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before it was like who the [ __ ] are these we found a way to lose well good for you but I don't think anybody really
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realizes the the excitement in you know when you when when Cora was like the
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only game in town like I I think there's a sort of baptism when one goes on to Cora's show to be talked at by Cora
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right uh that's a good hour of entertainment
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where you're there as a guest and he talks at you and then says okay well thanks for coming by it's it's something
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to be uh experienced we're working on that there's room room for everybody but it did you have a Eureka moment that you
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could call back on like holy [ __ ] maybe there's money in this because how long did you do it essentially for free
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before money to arrive to hold on my I I'm watching my cat throw up don't e
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plastic get out did you have a Ure for a moment I did when I peed last night I'm checking celebrity net worth okay anyway
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so I don't even know if that's right well well no I'm kidding I didn't check
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what happened was there was like at the beginning you you either had if you were G to put up a pay wall you couldn't you
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couldn't get new audience right so we had done a radio show goodbye wall yeah
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goodbye wall no no one welcome let's put up a goodbye wall on
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ours D you can do well that was before the uh P the what is it called uh what's that that thing everyone does where they
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can get a pay page Pantheon or what is it oh Ron we all don't
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know you know that I know what you mean yeah so what we did was we had like
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two advertisers from the old radio days it was sex toys it was like Adam and Eve sex boys and we had crazy edes
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electronic that kind of thing but then we had the coffee sponsor but there was there was really no way to to to make
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money and except for the Old School radio way and then ultimately we started working with old timey radio ad people
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and then Jeff olr and Scott ochman put mid roll together and uh and the awolf
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network and that created a platform to get advertisers into specifically podcasting so everyone sort of came up
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together but it wasn't until I guess the hey Charlie get away from the plastic Charlie I'm going to throw you out
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stupid so um that's how you talk to a cat by the way is that your com your
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Tech yeah that's my producer um your it guy I don't know you know it was a slow
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going but the in the great thing about it was everybody kind of came up together sort of like show business everybody was kind of figuring it out as
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we all went along and then big money got involved and then some people won and some people did okay come
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on dude Charlie's here now Charlie give me that get him out of hold on let me get out here let me get him out of here
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honestly put him out on Glendale freeway I know C get out you can eat
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plastic and throw up you can't show biz Heather we got to get Charlie out of the room um but but yeah I mean it took a
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long time to really get it together and then to uh to make a living it took years for my producer to come on with me
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permanently he was actually had another job at MSNBC while he he was kind of Moonlighting and he couldn't even admit
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that he worked for with me because there's a non-disclosure he couldn't you know he couldn't um see
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yeah it was it was part of his contract with MSNBC and I felt horrible about it because he's doing half the work and I
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and I just had to be like well I have a mystery guy that uh helps me with this I send it into the ether once or twice a
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week it's good more attention on you that's not horrible yeah yeah sometimes not for not great for me what what's the
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headp space like like when you first start doing this I guess when it starts to emerge you're doing you're starting
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to be successful right and you're going okay I did this interview I get this many this reaction I do this interview
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holy [ __ ] this is 10 times 10x well I think the exciting part about it
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was was like as the podcast situation grew I was doing a type of interview
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that not many people were doing anymore so the entertainment press sort of realized I was doing most of their job
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so he got a lot of attention but I was really focused on having these conversations and trying to uh you know
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make amends were necessary I think the first hundred episodes are me just to having people over so I can talk about
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my problems and apologize to them and that's and it's weird how many times you do that and people go like I had no idea
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what you're talking about and you're like I'm a [ __ ] idiot so so that was how that unfolded but the excitement of
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having Robin on with because that interview seems to be like the only interview like that like when he when he
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died it was everywhere because he never talked like that and and those kind of rare conversations definitely happened
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that was interesting because you did it became very very real with Robin and he
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never you know he had made amends to me in mil Valley on a sidewalk just after a
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show yeah and I didn't know why for a b he just stole sorry I I just said to him
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he thinks he had some idea that I took I said I tried to do you you don't
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understand I had a trunk of props I worshiped you you know and I don't know
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if it was from AA or something like oh this wasn't supposed to go this way you know supposed to be a hug you're forgiven I didn't he thought I had a
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thing where I named my dick Mr Happy and that he took that from me I know that's
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not true I never did Mr Happy look what the look where this goes on podcast that
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was that's hilarious that was the amends it wasn't even like some deep personal affront it's like I I know you might
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have called your dick Mr Happy and oh that's the best amend to me 20 years
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earlier at Dennis Miller's wedding we were at the same table I wonder perhaps I got Mr happppy from you and I go no
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and then it it it tortured him it stuck with him well the the funny thing about that interview is I drove up there to M
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Valley to his house and what I realized it was the same with Mel Brooks is that if they don't have more than two people
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to play to They're Not Gon have turned it on like that like it was just me and Robin if there had been one other person
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there they would have had the Carnegie Hall set yeah my dick's name is Mr sad
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in a side note and no one's stolen it yet ah oh okay that's all I wanted go
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ahead just want to stop this my dick's name is you got this you got
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it come on champ come on yeah my pronouns are what's up [ __ ] yeah
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there you go call [Music]
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Ran So you get successful we I want to do a
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deep dive on you yes but you're I have a question from Mark Mar did you guys run out of SNL guest how do
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I how do I get this kig no this is good because you your story of SNL just a quick David when we interviewed Lauren
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Michaels I listened to your podcast about auditioning for SNL just to get
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ideas of how Lauren is in that environment so yeah he really you are an SNL guy your journey with that is
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fascinating if you want to talk about it for S with it what's your question David I I I'd like to converse this one won't
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we we we can do this first or SNL first but mine was why did you start it was it only to make amends was that to start a
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podcast no because you I was kind of down for the count you know it turns out
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that you know 50 Conan don't don't necessarily don't add up to a
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Carson don't add up to Conan an an audience I was gonna say I saw 50 Conan
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on here and I was gonna say does that bump your road does it you know no it didn't and I 50 con I don't even know
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like I could I never could pull an audience and and uh you know I was I was
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going through a divorce I was in a dark place I just gotten fired from this radio gig uh well it was it was a
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streaming gig for air America and there were a couple podcasts out there and we were like well let's let's figure it out
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I talked to my producer who I've known since he was a kid uh 24 years old he he
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worked with me forever and we just figured it out but it was really desperation and wanting to stay in the
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game somehow because I was looking down the barrel at a lifetime of you know kind of you know be comedy rooms as a
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non-selling headliner and Match Game well maybe
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uh I know I know believe me everyone have friends that are in that midlevel market and there's cruise ships and old
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books homes and clubs off label clubs out in the hinderland but I couldn't do it there
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was no way I could have done it how am I gonna do a cruise ship I can barely do like what I don't know but because of
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the podcast because of the cosmic timing or what everything that I have now came
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from that like he you know doing the TV show for IFC you know drawing an
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audience for my comedy acting gigs everything happened because of that sort
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of Act of of desperation and Hil Mary pass which had no future there was no I
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wasn't getting into a business that was like this is gonna we're gonna really make some money on this it was like we
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didn't even know how to get people to listen to it yeah you were like Bitcoin like no one cared no one cared I wasn't
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yeah wasn't even a meme at that point yeah but it worked out I mean you know
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thank God it it worked out I don't even I can't even explain it because I don't I'm not like a big uh not a big think I
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don't think about money David yeah oh you don't I like having it enough to eat
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yeah you know like that's that's the that's how my brain works is like what how you you have money now what do you
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do I can eat wherever I want that's the ceiling money money is freedom that's
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what it's for even the great Neil Young about two years ago finally sold part of
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his catalog and said I can and this is Neil Young you'd think he'd be so rich
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but he he said now I can do whatever the [ __ ] I want I don't have to tour if I don't want to that he bought his freedom
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so money to me especially as an older comedian you want to be able to work the way you want to work so that's
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interesting about Neil Young is he really he kind of held back on what seems to be about 50 records he never
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released so somehow or another he can releasee records every year or so you
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know from 1970 and it's amazing he came if you have if you're spending three
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four million a year then you have you need a lot of money to cough that up you know but why was gonna ask you about
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your library because is it 1600 episodes or something something like that yeah it's like about 1600 but Neil came over
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once that was that was interesting with Neil oh you interviewed oh you had Neil
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what what tell me about that didn't hear that one well because I you know I'm I'm enough of a fan to know enough about him
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it's I'm much better if I'm not a big fan of somebody in terms of interviewing and I didn't know what to
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expect he was out pushing remember when he he made that that he was partnered up with a company that made that thing that
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was supposed to compete with the iPod oh yeah yeah yeah yeah sound he's a sound
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f it was something else no I I it was it was like a a a box yeah like a portable
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box oh what was it called so they send this thing and they send me these fancy ear headset and it's it picks up a
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bigger spectrum of sound and and people have to re-record for but what was it
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called doesn't matter so they send look at they send me the thing and I listen
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to it I'm like all right whatever I just want I'll talk to Neil Young so so he
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they sent me the thing and there and I was told that like when they get there you're going to have to give it back and I'm like all right whatever so Neil
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Young's coming over and I'm nervous because it's [ __ ] Neil Young And like I I know that with somebody like him
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because I'm not a huge fan every Neil Young nerd in the world is g to be listening for for new information or
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call me an idiot for not knowing something that's something I've learned with with guys like spring scen these guys interview so Neil comes over with
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his like 80-year-old posy he's got he's got two two guys with him that you know
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must have been in their 70s Elliott his manager who passed away and another guy and the manager is even older than the
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old guy oh yeah yeah except for uh George Shapiro who was Carl riner's
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cousin younger but still old I don't even know if he's still alive Pono I think he passed away poo yeah Pono Pono
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music digital service so they come over and Neil walks in and you remember the
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house you said it like it's just two rooms he's looking at my records he looks at a guitar I have out he goes
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over and he plays the guitar and looking around and and I say uh all right so I
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guess you guys can have back the the Pomo and the headphones and Neil just you know just those uh no you can keep
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them so I'm thinking I'm in this guy likes me right so yeah we go out to the
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garage and I decided the way to the way to start with him is just I have an old amplifier that I think he uses one
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similar to it so I figured that'll get things started right so I getting Neil out there and I'm like so uh you
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probably recognize that amp there right he's like no I don't know what you're talking about and I'm like [ __ ] and then
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it was just well he did though but I didn't know no one told me he likes to [ __ ] with interviewers so he's making me
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work my balls off and it wasn't until I got him laughing that it opened up but it took like 15 minutes and it was like
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it was hard but then like all of a sudden he pops open he's talking about doing Pilates with the Daryl Hannah and
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all this stuff is coming out and then apparently he goes home and at this
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house Dan Rather is waiting to interview him for Dan rather's podcast I don't know access or whatever the H was right
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cable and my buddy Brendan's friend works for rather and apparently Neil Young walks in and he come from my house
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he he says I just did a really great interview and Dan Rather off camera of course says what made it great he goes
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uh the guy was fearless and he wasn't afraid to fail and I'm like hey that's good that's a good blurb wow but he
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tested me he defin itely tested me wow [ __ ] I would freak out that we had we
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had um David and I similar thing with Paul McCartney and I don't know if you
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have or with your personality but podcast regret like why did I interrupt
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him then that was the best part why did it take me so long to get there yeah and I'll be kind of in my head really for a
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couple weeks sometimes McCartney bothered me for probably a month I uh I
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get what I get is like [ __ ] I forgot to cover the most important thing they're known for yeah but um but I interrupt
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all the time and people sometimes get on me but it's like for but for me it's like it's got to be a conversation and I
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have to be part of it so suck it up or don't listen but McCartney was funny I had to interview him in front of a crowd
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and that was really one of the best moments I've had talking to somebody because I talk to a lot of
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these guys who are like you know pushing a record and and a lot of them like Roger Waters or like I've interviewed a
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lot of uh Thomas Dolby whatever they think that the record they're out promoting is their best [ __ ] right and
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it's like all right I I'll play along so with
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McCartney so with McCartney he's out selling it was at Capital Records it was an event but the record that he had had
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out was Egypt station or something which no one bought but I said to him I said
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so Paul you know a lot of artists who who are in your age group they they really think that they're doing their
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their best work now do you do you feel that way and without missing a be he goes well I was in The Beatles so that's
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a pretty high bar it was so funny that's that's and I was the guy that told him that Manson had died he didn't
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know huh I think for for me there's a lot of how where are you in this I mean
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for I I wanted to ask you musically but also movies but with music what what is there a guy somebody you haven't had yet
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or who was your true north star was it Springstein was it well Roger Waters
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Pink Floyd Dark Side of the Moon um for me Paul McCartney of beetle was kind of
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the opin be was great and I met Ringo recently who I'm sure you've met he's a pretty sweet guy no we would love to
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interview Ringo yeah I I met him at some odd listening party that I got invited to by T-Bone Bernett of of Ringo's new
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country record and and that crowd was pretty interesting to see these like 75y
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old hippie girls who are still kind of hippie girls but they're 75 but uh wait who had the country album
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Ringo yeah put it out yeah yeah Tbone Bernette produced it and I think he prod
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he no Beyonce did I think she got a little more press but um but no for me
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the North Star I've had most of them Springsteen wasn't Springsteen was funny because you know and I just saw him
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because I did a bit a little part in that that movie they're making about him but I I flew I went to Jersey
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dude I went to his house in Jersey like Christmas week and he just put that book
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out and you know it turns out he's a very dark dude very hard on himself but
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all this stuff but like you know he's got this thing he does publicly that's the other trick getting around people's
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public personas because you know Bruce is sort of like hey me and the guys went down this boardwalk and
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so saw some [ __ ] wrote a song yeah so how yeah we we know about all about that
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yeah yeah it's it's the underbite I get there and like I said he's up in his
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house I'm waiting in some sort of like this other structure that's got his guitars his motorcycle in it and I'm
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waiting for and he yeah he has no idea really I don't think who I am because he's walking down he's walking down from
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the house his publisher and publicist said you should do this one and he's walking down from the house I just see him coming down little Bruce yeah and
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he's holding the book and I'm like oh he doesn't know what he's getting into so here we so he sits down and I'm just
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try I want to break the ice quick because again I don't I'm not I love Bruce but I'm not a huge Springsteen fan
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so so I said to him I said uh so uh so what's going on up at the house go out
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to preparation for the holidays cooking and presents and he goes correct and I'm
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like can I talk to that guy for the whole hour whoever the guy that just went correct with that tone I want that
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spring and and what how did you did you do that did you yeah yeah I I kind of
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reeled him in because like I by inserting myself into the conversation
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they kind they're forced to kind of reckon with me unless they're complete douchebags like Ben Kingsley so and I
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don't mean to name drop but names I love I love sexy beast yeah [ __ ]
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unbelievable it was the the worst interview like I should have told him to leave it was that bad and I don't know
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why I did because you he's hung up on be on being called uh uh s sir sir Ben so and I
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didn't do that at the beginning and I wish I said I wish I just said sir Ben we don't have to do this we don't have
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to do it um but anyway with Bruce I kind of pushed in you know and I to the point
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where I was relating to him and his experience with audiences and stuff and I just remember there was this moment
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where you know we were talking about what you get from an audience and how like it it it's like not enough
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sometimes and he was like of course it isn't so I had him locked into a real conversation which again I heard from
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another person I got some notes on that too because Paul Wilkenfeld you know her
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the bass player she's a little Prodigy she plays with everybody and she's oh
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played with Jeff Beck at one point yeah yeah tall oh yeah yeah and she hangs around the store a lot and stuff well
00:27:25
she was going on a press tour and she I guess was you know somewhere Bruce and she was asking for advice on how to
00:27:30
handle interviewers and and Bruce told her that no matter what they want to talk about
00:27:37
you just talk about what you want to talk about just you know bulldoze yeah and then she said uh well you know my
00:27:44
friend Mark Maron interviewed you and he said yeah he pushed oh that's good well you know I
00:27:51
think Arnold Schwarz neger would say that he'd say you'd ask him a question like what happened with those maids and he goes this movie is unbelievable
00:27:59
he's like CU you can't use anything but what he says and he doesn't even acknowledge your question I love that Arnold can never go negative he had one
00:28:06
movie I guess Last Action Hero he's on Matt laau well the the box office wasn't
00:28:11
quite no people love the movie and it's a great tip all over the world and you know there's he can't ever go negative
00:28:19
but uh the best dance he does is around his dad probably being a Nazi that that's the Great Dance because he'll
00:28:24
he'll always preempt that with like you know I have many Jewish friends you know like okay okay
00:28:30
okay he taught us to salute and with for us it was just if you want a candy bar
00:28:36
you do the salute and he gives you a little chocolate in your hand we didn't know what it was about and things like
00:28:41
this and all these things and these people and what the they say and all this stuff stuff does he ever talk about
00:28:49
the maid we love Arnold he has a relationship with the kid you know and I think you after a certain point you just
00:28:55
kind of focus on that because whatever the transgression was he's he's owned it and you know he's he's he's good with
00:29:01
the kids so once everything came out every then he finally goes all right let's go
00:29:07
bench and the kid is like trying to meet him in the middle like I work out yeah you're my dad look at my face
00:29:15
yeah it is what you have to move on it's a lesson I mean one of my brothers I've
00:29:21
got three older brothers and we always say what would Arnold do only for the positivity of it it what it is and you
00:29:29
have to move on and I love everybody and it rather than negative and whiny but it seems to me like anxiety is like a theme
00:29:37
or depression of artists in some ways so you go with that did you because
00:29:42
Springsteen's all book is about that oh yeah well that was the great thing about talking to Arnold is that he won't let
00:29:47
you do that he he's got a switch in his head like he would even hear it like you
00:29:53
know and he's very Charming like he you know yeah like he you know he gets on sits down he goes look at your pecs you
00:30:00
know like you he goes right into it and you you kind of feel flattered you're like oh
00:30:06
thank you yeah somebody skip delt day you know what he said to us Mar he goes
00:30:11
how do you guys stay so lean you know because you're little and the whole thing now is to get little because the
00:30:18
little dogs live longer than the big dogs little dogs interview so little the
00:30:25
whole time he's not listening to our questions he just staring at our physique going look at that rib cage I need to
00:30:32
get small when you get older you have to be small because the heart and all the things have to work harder than all the
00:30:39
things and all the people I think his heart kind of blew up didn't it he had some had some work done in
00:30:48
there I have another question for Mark this my second one mark do you think you
00:30:55
don't remember this you were in the movie joker now do you think that did you do you think what happened to the
00:31:01
second Joker in your humble opinion I don't know what I I think Todd
00:31:07
Phillips convinced himself that he was actually an artist of some kind and decided to take this
00:31:13
interesting cinematic risk that you know uh you know failed miserably apparently
00:31:19
but uh I didn't see it did you I heard about it I couldn't get through the poster I didn't see it I just couldn't
00:31:27
get I I couldn't take when I
00:31:33
the no I love Todd Philips I think that's one of those things as as I backtrack I think it's one of those
00:31:39
things where great movie Dana was about to say some comments but the same thing great movie and then it it's it's just
00:31:46
crazy if you can do literally anything you want and he just goes let me just try this will work or it won't work well
00:31:54
the interesting thing is is he he had a you know he rebuilt a a good franchise
00:31:59
possibility by really exploring that character in the first one so cool so weird and cool and you know uh it was I
00:32:07
don't know you he was nice to me and that was an exciting day because you know I got to do like a little scene
00:32:14
with Robert DeNiro and you know I thought that movie was pretty good that
00:32:19
first Joker but who the hell knows why you know he's a gambler dude you know he just is like you know [ __ ] it sure let's
00:32:25
let's do it and yeah I don't what's his uh net worth I mean he has freedom I think if he got a back end on
00:32:32
The Hangover dude he got a back end on everything he's like I think known for forgoing a director's fee super backend
00:32:39
yeah for a high percentage of the back end but but that scene with dairo was like that was that was a great that's a
00:32:46
great moment for me because you know you know I know that Dao's not he's not
00:32:51
going to remember me you know I'm just one of those guys that he's met a hundred guys that do two lines with him right you're forgettable yeah yeah yeah
00:32:58
and uh I know it's painful but uh but we're chatting and whatever you know but
00:33:04
it's one scene where we do a Walkin talk you know and I'm supposed to be like you
00:33:09
know his producer those are hard by the way they are home they got cut out but
00:33:15
uh but you know you know Todd's there Bob's there and and it's like you guys just want to go you ready to do it I'm
00:33:21
like yeah listen yeah let's do one so so we do this walk and talk and I'm like
00:33:26
he's like yeah and and you PHS goes cut and I go back
00:33:33
to my chair and I see Robert go to his chair and then I see Robert walk over to Todd and then walk back to his chair EXC
00:33:40
and then and then then Todd walks over to me and he goes hey you're you're coming in a little
00:33:46
hot oh remember Bob's your boss I'm like
00:33:52
yeah yeah yeah okay I got it but you got to appreciate the fact that Bob handled it correctly on S went and told the
00:33:58
director like hey you know I think he's a you know he's not really yeah
00:34:04
yeah will you tell him tell him tell Mr Marin yeah I had a girl say it to my
00:34:12
face she it was is an I did an old movie and then uh I had to kiss a girl I won't
00:34:18
say who I had to kiss her and I said hey before I don't know how I've never done this on camera like she goes just kiss
00:34:24
me like I'm your girlfriend just anything I don't care and I said all right so I I I just kiss her not not
00:34:30
crazily I just kiss her but I touch her cheek and kiss her and they go cut we're all like okay and the director comes up
00:34:36
and she says she's not even one foot away from my face she goes can you tell him not to touch my face wow and him was
00:34:45
me she did the correct way she told the director but right there I just made me
00:34:51
think of that CU I was like I was horrified I'm like oh cuz you know kissing someone is so too it's so scary
00:34:57
and you that's interesting though right that's interesting because she said kiss me like you're my my girl like she's
00:35:04
your girlfriend but apparently the intimacy of the hand touch yeah was not
00:35:10
something she anticipated or maybe she just is never had a a a boyfriend that
00:35:15
she let touch her face yes and I and I wasn't like a super French ofon I was
00:35:20
just trying to like give her a little Mega you know you just to open you just kiss a little bit it's nothing crazy it's cute little movie nobody gets hurt
00:35:27
and uh you never know what's going to happen with those things you know so you kissed Bob dairo I got I can't that was
00:35:33
off camera that was crazy you go hey I'm ad liing yeah yeah I'm improvising can we improvise but were you scared I did a
00:35:40
quick scene in the old days with William defo in my very very old days in a part that Dana turned down and um during SNL
00:35:47
and well Paul Sher was the director and I was almost sick from nerves cuz I'm
00:35:54
and William defo super cool did one scene same thing he wouldn't remember in a million years
00:35:59
but of course you get your nerves just ramp up M were it's dairo it's still no
00:36:05
matter what it's totally I I felt okay about it because I don't know like I think I'm getting better at acting but
00:36:11
the benefit I talked to woman defo not a great time not a great time not a great
00:36:18
time had some toughies on here too some are toughies yeah I don't I don't know if I said something to piss him off but
00:36:23
it was like come on dude you know it's like just roll with say I got to look at
00:36:29
your face for an hour so he's got a lot of character in his
00:36:35
face he's a great character it's not it's not a negative thing necessarily it's intense necessarily it's an intense
00:36:41
face to stare at for hour yeah but uh but no in terms of nerves I think doing
00:36:47
the podcast helped me a lot in humanizing these people because like you know after a certain number of
00:36:52
celebrities you talk to you're like wow they're just people and some of them you know aren't even that interesting so uh
00:37:00
so knowing that going in it's true and it's not a bad thing but uh I I I I seem
00:37:06
to qualify a lot of things so that's not negative I'm not I'm not
00:37:11
positive the qualifier Mark Maron is the qualifier what happens when you go hey
00:37:17
Bob when you want if you ever want to buzz over to the Glendale I why don't you to pop in and I'd like to talk to
00:37:22
him but he's he's one of those guys I can't get there are certain directors chatter though that's not probably more
00:37:29
chatty who are we talking about I missed Bobo oh but like in terms of nerves I
00:37:34
was I was more nervous when I had to I just did an indie where I had to play the lead and that was a real that I was
00:37:42
nervous about that because you know I had to I knew I had to carry the movie but I'd learned a lot of lessons from a
00:37:48
lot of actors and I was pretty confident and then I had to do a scene with Sharon Stone and it it it was a lifechanging
00:37:56
terrifying thing that was kind of amazing and I was nervous to to do a
00:38:03
scene with her yeah and uh she's kind of intim a big star that's a big dude big
00:38:10
star it was crazy I think I gotta save the story for when and if the movie ever comes out because I told it and I don't
00:38:16
want to necessarily spoil anything but she did the movie because she likes me
00:38:21
and it's one scene and it was great and Lily Gladstone was in it uh Allan Ruck
00:38:27
uh played my manager love yeah the what's his name
00:38:32
Jason is it Jason no it's not Jason no the kid from um oh now I feel
00:38:39
bad he was so [ __ ] funny Silver Spoons baitman no you know the one we
00:38:44
used to do the Apple commercials was involved with drewberry morph Justin Long Justin long oh Justin Long yep
00:38:50
bunny [ __ ] that yeah I like him yeah oh my God so [ __ ] funny but I was
00:38:55
nervous about that but I I just did the best I could it's all you can do right does anybody call you after your podcast
00:39:02
and who has asked for the most to be taken out don't people go take this out take that or do you say no no no I'm not
00:39:08
I'm not in the business of sandbagging people it's not our our jam and that's our bus that's good I hope I gave you
00:39:15
enough sand bag you gave us a little sand not enough for a bag but uh almost always I would say
00:39:23
always it's only because they said something about somebody else that probably couldn't even have even been
00:39:30
taken in a negative way it's never like them yeah like just like you know I
00:39:35
didn't have to say that about you know we're kind of friends yeah yeah it comes off funny and then later they go what if they get mad or what yeah yeah and
00:39:42
people do get mad everyone's talking too much that's the problem with everyone having a [ __ ] podcast is like you
00:39:47
know actors you know are are just coming out with like well 20 years ago it's like oh my God we can't get out from
00:39:54
under this thing no one shuts up anymore I see ones and now it's like full sex
00:39:59
life they people just can't have nowhere else to go so now it's like here's everything about my life here's about my plastic surgery here's about here follow
00:40:06
me in my camera into my plastic surgery into my you know kidney op we doing yeah
00:40:11
or people talking about you know uh you know moments they had with people like 20 years ago that well not even that
00:40:19
just like awkward moments and it's like why' you even have to do that why' you I mean what was but some people are like it almost
00:40:27
seems like they're making up horrible things cuz they're running out of content I know have a big announcement
00:40:32
you're like this it takes to it's happens to be your 100th episode yeah well we know what would Trend and get
00:40:39
pickup you know uh I don't I really I don't you never really know what they pick up sometimes you do surprising but
00:40:46
if you have someone on and they're being very revealing and you know that you're getting a scoop they have not talked
00:40:51
about this like Robin you kind of it's going to Trend but it but it they've been on five podcasts by the time they
00:40:57
get to us then right well no that's a problem but with Robin there was no trending hadn't happened yet so okay and
00:41:04
it was quite a lot of Hoops to jump through just to get him to do it and you
00:41:09
know it just worked out because I was a comic and I'm also like have a dark side
00:41:15
and there was no one else there that we got this conversation and thank God we did because it's it seems to be the only
00:41:21
like he literally talked about depression addiction suicide at the end both him and Jonathan Winters
00:41:27
did riffs on suicide at their end of the interviews and Jonathan Winters that was crazy I went to Santa Barbara to talk to
00:41:33
him how did he pass away uh Jonathan Winters he he passed
00:41:38
away in character which is weird so it's not clear whether he really dies he was actually Ma fricker and they buried him
00:41:45
in the dress which I thought was inappropriate he's a guy that my dad used to tell me now this is comedy and he was funny and then when Robin was
00:41:52
like oh this guy but I couldn't appreciate it growing up I just thought he was funny I didn't know how good you
00:41:57
know you can never really tell I thought they were all those characters like I thought John the wi did was very
00:42:03
specific and very detailed it was not just ad hoc he was out there dude he was
00:42:09
like out there like it was there was I had a beautiful moment with him in his house it was and I always tell the story
00:42:16
I don't know if it really lands so that's a good setup uh yeah but give us
00:42:21
the unland bles okay well we're we're at his house I'm already in I'm all in the
00:42:27
winners and you're talking to you know he's like he's got this sort of weird you know childlike you know thing that
00:42:34
you know he in in his house they had moved his bedroom because he was kind of hobbling around with a cane and he wore
00:42:40
a like a a Union Army Colonel's brimmed hat but we uh we were walking down this
00:42:48
hallway he wanted to show me what he said I want to show you the planes right
00:42:53
so what that ultimately was is that he has this four poost bed four poster bed
00:42:58
in this bedroom and hanging from the ceiling are all these model airplanes all right that's that's the destination
00:43:03
we're heading towards but we're walking down this hallway past just a pictures from a career in Show Business there's
00:43:09
Jonathan Winters in every Star you could imagine and then he stops and he points
00:43:14
to this old ass picture of this boy with a with a puppy and he goes a this that
00:43:22
dog and I was like oh my gosh you're like this whole life of of entertainment
00:43:29
and that's what you know the dog he's a little kid sweet right that's supposed
00:43:34
to be sad David that's kind of interesting Danny I know someone who had dinner with Dan at Danny Kay's house
00:43:41
yeah and he was very quiet during the dinner and they're letting everyone out it's the same kind of thing Hall of Fame
00:43:46
wall Danny C pictures someone asked one question and it was two hours photo by
00:43:52
photo here I with Jack Benny here I am here here I am here they
00:43:57
have you watched any of those like not the not the the Dean Martin roasts but
00:44:03
there there's footage somewhere I don't know where I found it um some streaming service of actual prar Club roasts that
00:44:09
were done oh yeah I think might seen one it's always the same guys and it's not a great day as Henny youngman's always
00:44:15
there and they're they literally have him on and you can tell the reason they have him on is just because he he
00:44:21
doesn't roast anybody he just does his horrible jokes but they just they just have M to bust his balls yeah what what
00:44:28
was what was so interesting about so many of those is just how horribly unfunny some of them
00:44:35
are the one who always got me and I I'm curious about old timeing here we go
00:44:40
again was always as a kid was Don Rickles the best just the funniest on
00:44:46
and and and and dry like weird no joke like get that a cookie put him in the
00:44:51
corner pack him in ice he doesn't know the show started there's no real jokes It's the Rhythm or Star the camera goes
00:44:59
and the the sense of Mayhem that he doesn't know exactly where he's going yeah you know if you wrote it all down
00:45:05
you couldn't find a funny joke in there look at this this that did that suit come with two pairs of pants and a hockey puck what does that mean it
00:45:12
sounds like a joke Johnny the show started okay you know funniest [ __ ] guy Ed's over there going
00:45:20
oh that's it he was very funny give him a cookie yeah the funniest wine he used
00:45:26
to live when he did those roasts and there were some of the old Hollywood guys there like Carrie Grant or Jimmy
00:45:31
Stewart he would say Jimmy I talked to the family you're doing
00:45:37
fine that's so funny I know you just can't be Jimmy do you know where you are
00:45:43
yeah you ever see that the the Quint Eastwood roast he said one of the funniest things and the most honest
00:45:48
thing I ever heard it was the best it was one of those you know AFI big you
00:45:53
know wasn't a the tribute so he gets up he says you know he opens with I I I
00:46:00
don't know why I'm here I thought this was a tribute to MV Griffin or whatever but but they' had a whole evening at
00:46:06
this point and he says uh what a wonderful evening he says uhh Clint your
00:46:12
son played bass we sat through
00:46:18
that such a rip so good and everyone kind of laughs
00:46:24
like they had a cut to the kid who you took it well in the moment but probably you know not great and like that
00:46:30
everyone's drunk was funny they were like he goes oh I had a few drinks back to you s he's so funny when he that that
00:46:36
older Rickles on Letterman with Denzel Washington that is that's so funny what
00:46:42
does he say look at the black guy over here well he no that was it was a little post that but it he he just kept busting
00:46:48
on Letterman mumbling he just he wouldn't let up on Letterman like Letterman opens with like you and Frank
00:46:55
have been friends a long time and both you wives are named Barbara right and rles goes what are you a detective
00:47:01
listen to this yeah I've seen that it's the best that's so awesome
00:47:10
yeah those old roast the Dean Martin those are the coolest on those are good yeah they're great because it was like everybody in Hollywood it felt like
00:47:17
Hollywood was like a nice little town full of these special people and now they just let anyone in have you been
00:47:23
roasted on the any of these roasts comedy Central or Andor would you do it
00:47:28
if you haven't volunteered to be roasted I don't I don't mind being roasted I had one of the worst nights of my life on
00:47:35
the days of the Chevy Chase world oh that's a famous one right because that was one at that one yeah I was one of
00:47:42
the guys and you know all I can say I could say more but you know after that I
00:47:48
was in a room at that that [ __ ] Hilton in New York with my buddy Sam almost on the verge of tears thinking
00:47:54
like I can't do this I can't do comedy anymore I can't do it anymore it was so [ __ ] I bombed so hard so hard and I'm
00:48:02
not good at that I'm better Chevy does and and I think back then I was thinking
00:48:07
wait this is the first roast I'm seeing where not everyone is great friends with them so it's a very odd Vibe like I
00:48:13
don't think they could have gotten they could hit men yeah we didn't know that back then I mean I just thought I used
00:48:18
to see Dean Martin and they go hey there's my buddy over here red buttons yeah but to go hardly any SNL people
00:48:24
there and I pretty good jokes but I but but but by my nature if I'm insulting
00:48:31
somebody I I really mean it to to it's hostile and I don't have the the by my
00:48:39
nature I don't have the the distance necessary to make it funny but I had
00:48:44
good jokes and thank God they sweetened the [ __ ] out of it but in the room I
00:48:49
tanked hard and so did a lot of people how big a crowd it's not a big crowd is it no it the pain on Chevy's face
00:48:58
watching it he didn't want to be there he didn't want to be there pain because it's it's oh is this what they think of
00:49:04
me it's like me doing an impression to someone if they get upset it's like oh is this how I'm coming across it's the ultimate mental yeah game I mean David
00:49:11
you did one right got I did one I wouldn't get roasted it's actually goody never got roasted but you were the MC I
00:49:18
said I'd host one I don't even know why because all you have to do is be in the vicinity and you're [ __ ] you know yeah
00:49:24
so I mean I remember that I found that out cuz I was watching one and they go uh speaking of anal warts Andy Dick's
00:49:31
here tonight and then they put in the crowd and they put a spotlight he goes wait me I came to
00:49:37
watch what I'm not even on the [ __ ] de like I didn't know it's fair game
00:49:43
they're like nope we know where you're sitting we got a camera ready for you and so we got 20 guys writing jokes
00:49:48
about everyone in this [ __ ] room I got lucky because I was uh I was the
00:49:54
host so I was going to get it but who came in at the last minute we had a Fallout and
00:50:00
Coulter and so afterwards Jeff Ross said you know you had you had probably the
00:50:06
most jokes that you were going to get hammered with that you weren't ready for and at the last second everyone shifted
00:50:12
those to Ann Coulter and I was like yeah oh thank God I only got some they all sting I hated them all uh I'm not good
00:50:19
at getting roasted I'm like uh it's like a thousand stabs you know death Cuts but
00:50:25
Jesus an cter that's like giving the evening cancer where were you there's our
00:50:31
trender there's our trender thank you thank you she came up with her book and
00:50:36
she was she was Teflon she walked up with her book and just started plugging it she didn't In fairness I don't think
00:50:43
she knew what she was getting into she thought it was like some sort of promotion she brought her book up to the day said and everyone's basically saying
00:50:50
hey [ __ ] you it was pretty pretty rough so uh I's a diplomatic word for her
00:50:57
I yeah yeah but juel was there getting funny jokes by anyway overall it was a pretty fun roast um and we can talk I
00:51:05
don't I can take a shot I I don't mind getting hit you know I I but I don't think I'm in the position in Celebrity
00:51:11
wise to ever get roasted as an evening but I don't mind here's a couple minutes
00:51:18
roasting no I have a glass jaw I can't I was out there going and then I wrote it
00:51:24
down I hate you now I hate you now I hate you [Music]
00:51:31
I don't read comments you read David reads comments you read comments about your podcast much are you're good with
00:51:37
that or you're kind of I don't like I I seem to be pretty pretty disengaged from
00:51:42
Twitter you know I don't I don't do the other ones that much I'll look at Instagrams and occasionally I'll look at
00:51:48
uh you know messages or on posts on Instagram but I I don't you know and I do get emails sometimes but I I I got
00:51:56
out of that because they all you know a a troll that's worth his salt is going to really hit you where it hurts so you
00:52:02
know yeah and you know when you read them the the part of your brain that lives in this real the real world we
00:52:08
live in goes like well that's just part of it but the the real you sort like Jesus Christ is that [ __ ] true and
00:52:15
and then you got to process that I I don't have I can't detach from it but they land but not for that long yeah
00:52:23
someone you know I think I look to see if there's enough feedback positive or
00:52:29
negative sometimes you can try to have constructive criticism if they say you know you're always doing this or you
00:52:35
always do this or yeah I wish you would change it and then you go God enough people said that something's up you know
00:52:41
I have but if it's just random I get a lot of snipers just randomly almost almost 100% of the time if I answer them
00:52:48
or I DM them no no don't do that say to we got a problem they always go oh my God I'm your biggest fan or they they're
00:52:53
nicer that's right that's right some might just come kill so it's really a dangerous game to be honest do you
00:52:59
listen to your podcast no have you ever yeah cuz Conan told me a while back never has heard an episode so I took
00:53:05
that advice because I would get too much in my head in the part time I hear it I I don't listen to it I can't my producer
00:53:13
he gives you notes I can watch my own special no but my producer like we're since we're still audio and that's our
00:53:19
game he's very meticulous very brilliant guy but the weird thing about not listening to the podcast and only having
00:53:25
memory of the conversation like you know that that that's fleeting you know you can only
00:53:31
remember certain things from conversation so so if I have a question about something I discussed with
00:53:36
somebody my producer has become like like my active memory because he spends
00:53:42
a few hours with it and he remembers everything and he's like well you talked to so and so about that I have no
00:53:48
recollection and so I I really need him just to be you know my my functioning
00:53:53
memory of these things yeah yeah um I'm I was just curious earlier today like when we
00:54:01
talked to guests and stuff like for you are as a consuming art or like movies or
00:54:08
are you into that I mean movies music or totally is um Pat Oswald we started
00:54:14
talking about movies and he just boy that's a that's a long conversation yeah yeah okay we don't have to go I don't
00:54:20
know what you're you know but I remember yeah it was the killers from 1958
00:54:26
anyway um 2001 is space I'm try to guess your favorite movie okay that would be
00:54:32
tough or your top or a movie that you you see more than once or yes of course
00:54:39
um here's here's a question if you could only watch one movie tonight would it be 2001 or Planet of the Apes original
00:54:45
those are my only two choices what did you let Pat and Oswalt get in your head I know that's left over I didn't
00:54:52
talk to the producer I already asked that question two movies of the Condor
00:54:57
or alien oh wow yeah well you you kind of
00:55:02
kind of have to go with alien on those to I mean three days of the Condor is great but like I I would imagine you'd
00:55:09
probably get a little more if you if you really kind of a savored alien and
00:55:14
didn't OverWatch it it could probably be still pretty jarring whereas three days of the Condor you're kind of like all
00:55:21
right Redford and who maybe was it f St dway oh yeah
00:55:28
Condor where are you condor in the pocket I didn't know what that movie is about and I watched it honestly a year ago I I always heard about it oh is a
00:55:35
weird name I'm like why would I go to this movie weird fun cool movie alen changed movies alien changed movies
00:55:42
great I watch I've been watching a lot of movies I'll go to the theater to watch movies like I like going to the movies because I'm pretty close to the
00:55:48
Americana and I'll go see [ __ ] and I watched the old movies like I just watched the conversation again because I
00:55:55
didn't get it the first time I should watch that again Jean Hackman 1975 yeah
00:56:01
look at you with the [ __ ] Google I uh no no that's all here okay no but like I
00:56:08
remember seeing it years ago and I was like this is slow because I didn't lock in but like Jean Hackman doing almost
00:56:15
anything is kind of amazing it's unbelievable I talk about him all the time you that he's a freak he was he
00:56:22
always B move chewing he's so great who your everything I did watch the Tom Cruz
00:56:29
movie um where he's the The Firm the best the movie is great and he's [ __ ]
00:56:36
crazy yeah if you haven't seen the movie The Firm it's like a Sure Fire great movie go ahead talk about the fir it's
00:56:42
like a Sydney poock movie I mean people don't realize that there are these movies that these Geniuses made so
00:56:48
that's a fullon just because it's a griam book doesn't mean it's going to be hacky I mean Pollock did that movie and
00:56:54
the castle crazy crazy cat doesn't mean it's going to be hacky yeah true well
00:57:01
what was the other one I mean Copa directed The Rain Maker and that's another one that's [ __ ] great another John grien book yeah yeah but that's
00:57:08
like it's Matt Damon Danny DeVito Mickey roor I mccon that's not MCC no that's
00:57:15
another one that was it was earlier but the firm is the firm is great Terry
00:57:21
Terry yeah it's great and Wilford Brimley Wilford Brimley Brimley so good
00:57:28
he's a heavy man how Brook great great old names are so good in buy good Gary
00:57:35
Buy in and then what's her name the genius actress uh triple Hunter it's not
00:57:41
je triple Holly Hunter jeene triple horn yeah triple horn love interest yeah and
00:57:47
Tom Cruz being Tom Cruz [ __ ] [ __ ] Ed Harris is in it too it's an insane cast and
00:57:53
HCK and then Hackman Hackman charge him trying to seduce his wife
00:57:59
down in the Caribbean and then and he knows she's conning it I mean it's he's
00:58:04
effortless it's just so fascinating to watch Jean Hackman in no kidding dude but what else did I watch recently I
00:58:11
tend to watch like lately I've been like I just want to watch the beginning of this to get a couple laughs you know and
00:58:17
then I'll be up till two in the morning watching the whole [ __ ] movie I watched I watched The Other Guys
00:58:23
the other night just because I wanted to watch the beginning to get a laugh from those two will is that a car chase
00:58:29
beginning it's so fun yeah that thing with the rock and uh and what's his name
00:58:35
mark wallberg no The Rock and what's the uh Sam Jackson Sam Sam Jackson jumping off the roof that is hilarious and the
00:58:43
two of them together when wallberg focuses man he's good at comedy yeah yeah he can do it dude's great he's good
00:58:52
in a lot he does a lot of stuff yeah how's this movie with you and theovon what's what's that about uh bus boys is uh it's a beating
00:59:00
we're doing it right now it's tough It's hard to do because it's small budget Indie but it's super fun because is it
00:59:07
small budget Indie yeah well it's just us we we put it together we put money in and we just said we just want to go try
00:59:13
it and yeah and then decide what to do with it that's scary like yeah yeah
00:59:18
don't go pitch it don't go around he seems like he's got enough juice I mean someone will see it but I thought Bert
00:59:24
had enough juice too to put his little movie over the top but I don't think it got there but I mean you know people
00:59:29
will watch it people like Theo they like you what what comedies are just live streaming now when don't know we might
00:59:35
do it straight to video I mean straight to Consumer straight to video straight to video the90s are
00:59:42
calling we're going so old that reminds me of like one one time I was like this has been the last five years I was at
00:59:49
the comedy store right and out of the darkness like Steve Kravitz just emerges
00:59:55
and Steve Kravitz from sanco yeah yeah I he he's still here dude I saw him the other night and he's okay you know he's
01:00:03
okay he's funny yeah yeah he was funny but like I just remember he was like it was like you know he's he's 70 something
01:00:09
now but it was just a few years ago and he's like I don't know how the business works anymore like hey where do I send
01:00:15
my tape and I'm like maybe to 1985 maybe you send the tape maybe the denunzio
01:00:21
brothers at the Funny Bone isn't that somebody yeah they used
01:00:28
to watch your I used to send my tape the funny bone my half inch VHS and they're like they must have a pile of tapes I'm
01:00:34
like it's been a whole day are they gonna watch it or not they don't give a [ __ ] oh my God I remember there was a booking agency in Boston called Boston
01:00:40
Comedy Company Barry cats used to run it out of the basement apartment in a building in Alon and one of the women
01:00:48
who would get tape submissions and she she was dating somebody like we knew like we got hold
01:00:54
of a couple of the tapes and there's this one tape of a guy that's clearly in his basement or in his bedroom and he's
01:01:00
doing jokes and he's got a friend dropping a a phonograph needle onto a laughter of laughter track on a record
01:01:08
wow so you he would do a joke and you'd literally hear the needle drop oh funny pull back up again that's a good idea
01:01:17
analog low five World kind of something Charming about that well Mark before you let you go I gotta ask you about one
01:01:23
movie and then we'll ask Dana if he has any wrap-ups but uh you've been very nice to talk I see Mark
01:01:28
at The Comedy Store now and then we always have a little chat a couple laps and uh then we get our $48 and we get
01:01:34
the [ __ ] out of there yeah and um oh someone said today that to Lesley you were very very good and they loved you
01:01:40
in it and they heard I was talking you so oh well that's nice to hear I definitely I did the work on that one
01:01:46
like because like I don't know how like I I always wanted to act but I know I'm okay at it and I got better but I still
01:01:53
never I I'm still like it's it's it's not it's not necessarily an exciting job
01:02:00
I mean there's a lot of waiting around which makes me crazy for sure but like I was trying with that movie I didn't want
01:02:06
to do it and the director kept bothering me because I was still kind of [ __ ] up it was during covid you know Lynn had passed away and you know they were the
01:02:14
guy kept bothering me you know and it's I'm it's the role is like this kind of you know slightly beaten up Texon guy
01:02:22
and I'm thinking like you get there's like nine nine or 20 [ __ ] Cowboy
01:02:27
character actors you could get to do this what why me and you know finally he
01:02:33
gets through he gets me on the phone he's like well I really liked the last season of mar and I'm like oh so you do
01:02:39
like me all right I'll try and I told him like I don't know about the accent he said don't worry about the accent and
01:02:44
then I realized like dude if you're GNA do this you know take a risk you no
01:02:49
one's going to see this movie it's like it shoots in like two weeks on film out
01:02:55
in the desert here so I worked with a dialect coach and this is funny you'll probably get it Dana yeah you will too I
01:03:02
guess because it's just a reference that no one [ __ ] gets but I'm talking to the dialect coach and I'm like how do I
01:03:09
do a text and accent she's like well there really is no text in accent specifically but I think we'll do leic
01:03:15
and I'm like okay leic so she sends me you know the the phonetics and then she
01:03:20
sends me some tapes of what I think are the lovic accent and it's just like like
01:03:26
a few like behind the scenes Grammy interviews with Mac Davis and I'm like
01:03:31
this is the the only example Davis I want you yeah yeah yeah
01:03:38
I love MC Davis for sure yeah he's a good he's a funny actor too but but yeah I appreciate someone saying that because
01:03:43
I definitely put the work in and I was willing to fail uh with the accent but I think I did all right and the only
01:03:49
reason I had confidence to do that was before I interviewed James Khan I was watching movies of early mov of his and
01:03:56
all these guys try accents and very few of them are any good at it so I'm like well [ __ ] it if he's going to take the
01:04:02
hit I can take the hit you know yeah the Australians are great at accents for some reason and a lot of the Brits are
01:04:08
but the Americans I don't know you know secondhand Compliments are the best like when David hears someone say to him you
01:04:14
were great in the movie right it that's the best way to hear it because you know they're not saying legit she was like oh
01:04:21
my god well by the way you see Maron special was fantastic yeah yeah it's nice to hear
01:04:28
somebody no that's a fictitious scenario well you know you do specials you do a podcast and you're a damn good actor you
01:04:34
got a series I'm just saying I mean I don't know any other you're you're like a triple and an author yeah I do what I
01:04:41
can I do what I can at the level I do it at and uh it's a you know it's I'm glad
01:04:47
I've had all the opportunity and I and I keep trying to get better what can you do it's just how much joy can you get
01:04:53
out of your incredible life that's really yeah well The Joy thing that's a whole other thing what I
01:04:59
mean less miserable less miserable podcast and in terms of like talking
01:05:04
about SNL I didn't get it oh okay thank you for the people that waited till the
01:05:12
end all right well that's perfect end of a podcast see see you later that was a
01:05:18
blast thank you yeah it was fun this has been a presentation of Odyssey please
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