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tons of tarantulas I hate it and they're like this get [ __ ] and they go it's
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mating season and the thing is going on and then they look at one foot every two
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minutes I go what is he sprinting towards someone to have sex with because see you talk about the slow plays like
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no they really walk weird there but they're slow but they they're they're in
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our house up there creeping around they're oh yeah that's it I am in Arizona they're they're not they go
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those don't bite I don't think I need more proof tell that to my leg Yeah
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tells my swollen left nut we knew we were going there I know it's horrible don't assume I scrotum okay dude I'm
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nothing like a shark bite Johnson Danny Johnson the other day he's got a van to travel for stand-up he goes
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the other day I slammed my finger in my van uh it got all big and purple and swollen so then I slammed my dick in
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there that's a great line I know that's just a great job he's the guy said he wrote his
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whole act in one night when he was [ __ ] yeah or something and then he always has done the that's when you
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could do your same act I was gonna ask Lana that if that's true there are there is a thing a poison in a
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way that people get 20 minutes the first week literally and then ride it for a half century that's what they used to be
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able to do you just travel with it Three Stooges never change their line for a half century they went on the road
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because they got nothing for their shorts Tom Segura oh no now we have a theme it
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works well I like the hand there it works again Tom skerodum what is this he is uh Tom Segura he's a crisis fan oh
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we're buddies gross two bears one cave you think by this point they could buy a
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second cave okay you know I went to Sunglass Hut the other day I go this place is doing pretty well I think they
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can move into a building um Tom Sakura Tom sedora is does well incredible everyone at the airport looks
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like Bert grizer I realize it's these big dudes with hats I was in Tom segura's seat I guess so I
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did two hours with uh Chrysler Jesus Jesus Christ your carving that is good for Dennis Christchurch yeah Jesus
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Christ forget about Bert this is Tom Segura well let's just just State some facts the guy is a great stand-up yup
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great check him out on Netflix great podcast got in early does with his lovely wife Christine and they have a
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big one called uh your mother's house right early adopter was getting we're
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gonna break this down in this you're gonna listen shortly you're going to
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shut up and listen shut up and listen but uh we're gonna break down how he figured out the podcasting thing and the
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or what do you call you know the knots are like 2000 2010 what is 2010 to 2020 where's the teens I think that's the
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teens what if it's 12. you [ __ ] me man I don't know were you saying something I
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don't know if we were you well it was like 2012 or 13 he was really getting into podcasting yes and he's a scientist
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about how it influences your draw on the road and we break all that down worldwide tour called uh I'm coming
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everywhere which is a funny title and he rakes in cash tour podcast he tours around the world Tom Segura
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still some more money in the gutters yeah and then there's uh stuff in a trash can get the lid off
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Kick the Can yeah it's clean out the leaf bag as long as you say what you're
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doing it's a perfect it's all funny noises have you seen my character sound
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effective guy gets in the car adjust the mirror puts it in gear clown it's a clown horns like
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anyway so Tom segory is our guest and uh we had fun with him he's really funny
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fun super smart and he'll say just dry things he's very like Howard Burt Chrysler is is loud and
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he's such a big presence and Tom is the calm one so their fun together and we've
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gotten them both we just go quietly until the podcast starts um is started um it's only an hour you still have the
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rest you know what the [ __ ] it's only an hour it's like it's like a ripoff
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[Music] foreign [Music] ERS it doesn't go well half the time and they come back alive and don't have it
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wired can you choose to be exploded or just hit in the head with a sledgehammer or Mike Tyson with a free punch that's
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how I want to go out that's it that's a that's a great idea and I don't think
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they really give you choices anymore and they should you should be able to say you should pick from a hundred things
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how would you want to go out well at first I would want to just chug a quart of vodka probably I mean I'd want to get
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really anesthetized I've had operations where I'm coming to on morphine and they
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could have just chopped me in half I couldn't care less so I'd get vodka
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morphine yeah and then I would try to run a hundred miles in the desert oh okay so like you'd want to accomplish
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something right yeah I don't know I wouldn't have lofty goals anymore I don't know what about you Tom or David
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what about what do you guys got I mean the feel good podcast of the year I'd
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like to see like if I could like really take a stabbing you know like how like how how many does it take
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like woodsy of the owl when on the pop commercial how many does it take till you go all right enough yeah yeah huh
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what if it was like somebody just throw I've always wanted to see some so like
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push us safe off of a ledge onto somebody so you know do it to me I'd like Tony Robbins to push my head into
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that cold plunge pool he has and just hold me under doing me a favor because that guy's got
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meaty mitts he does this is one of our most interesting startings um but Tom Segura Dana is Tom Segura an
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American hero he um I mean I don't think you've heard he keeps what did he do he
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created a comedy Empire outside the traditional system of Johnny Carson and Saturday Night Live he's here right now
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Tom and he created a comedy Empire leveraging this new technology and it's it's brilliant and his specials
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are amazing I have to say I heard a lot of your good stuff today thank you don't
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forget I also I hosted asking now twice but keep going you did that was back in the when they weren't filming it that's
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funny because we get a Tom Segura guess prep they would tell us that have they asked you to host recently
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um uh negative that's kind of strange because they've reached critical mass where they would
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think Hmm check the numbers well you have to be on the radar because listen first of all
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with SNL you grew up you did grow up and when you were growing up did you watch SNL most people did so
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much and what was your chunk that you were into the most chunk of casting when when we were 12 or 14 in what year like
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19 I mean Dana is the [ __ ] goat for sure yes yeah you're the greatest Tom I'm blushing if
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I could you are thank you I mean I was um of course uh I was absolutely obsessed I never missed it and for that
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time period you know so I was uh what I was born in 79 you know when you get into the early 90s late 80s early 90s
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that there's probably like a there's probably a six year window there where I
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don't miss a single episode I think you know that's um like that was what we did
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I mean I told the David when we podcasted it was like we would watch SNL and then it's like Monday morning you
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just go in and just repeat the lines that's all we would do I mean you know just like all all the Impressions and
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you were you're a [ __ ] chameleon I mean you were amazing uh uh Dana thank you thank you I know that David was
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there no Lauren did say David I want you to be an extra by the way the funniest thing about Lauren is saying I brought
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you in as a backup for Dana knowing he was leaving and I'm like I don't even do
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what Dana does no one does like just because I have blonde hair it's like I I
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do a whole different thing but Dana was so good and so fun to watch is that it made it impossible for someone like me
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to even contemplate going on us and all because that is Dana's like the quintessential SNL person funny scores
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goes into sketches disappears and any characters in the news you play them and that's so versatile and like you could
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do like you could have a standout like the lead character or like you said you could walk through a scene and deliver a
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line and I think that would probably be from like when I imagine I always imagine what it's like not to host but
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to be a cast member because it's like obviously that's not a thing that'll
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ever happen but like you imagine it and I go man that would intimidate the [ __ ]
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out of me to be in a cast with you but I think I would be like [ __ ] because you
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you're so good at all of it that I would just be like I don't know what I do here
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oh it surprised me too just quickly I mean I I did not have an enormous amount of confidence when I was really and it
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was a little bit like okay I guess I got it I felt a little sick to my stomach but as I went forward when I was trying
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to do stand up as a sketch player without really great material but just riffing characters sometimes that was
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kind of difficult but as I got it Forward on Sno I got more confidence and that getting confidence is a magical
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feeling whatever you're doing going back to our guest Tom no it's like when did
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you when did you turn like you're you start doing stand-up and you're going
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along and then at one point you you kind of Leap Forward was it confidence work ethic or just time I mean how soon would
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you're going I'm pretty much consistently can do an hour and pretty much consistently levitate the room well
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or even if when you felt confident like I'm gonna one of the first times okay
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I'm gonna do this I was definitely a Relentless um worker as a stand-up so once I you
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know once I understood how the system worked I was like oh like they let you emcee I was like you know I I just
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wanted to feature right just wanted to be like the middle act and I took every a single offer all over the country to
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to Middle everywhere and then when I cracked headlining I just I just kept doing it so aggressively like I we just
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worked worked worked worked like we like I never took I hated having a week off so I I you know I mean not like anybody
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enjoys that but I'm saying it it was just like a relentless pursuit of it and then you kind of feel
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like yeah there's a thing where you go like oh I'm proficient at this I I know
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how to do this but you realize it doesn't matter um if people don't know like people come
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to the shows and have a good time but you're like man this thing's not going
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to change unless people buy tickets you know to see you yeah it's like you're
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just coming you're just there because they're coming to a comedy club in
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general exactly but you need them to switch and go because they used to have mailing lists and stuff and maybe you
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did that oh I I did um you know we call it obviously they call it paper in the room it's like they the club goes hey
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we're at the you know this is the Omaha Funny Bone at the mall and they just
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reach out to their list and they go here's the ACT this week and people go who's that and they go well it's a free
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ticket and that's what I did I just did those for years and years when and did those
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over and over and over but you get to the point where you're like hey I feel
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like I could sell a ticket if people knew who who I was but the only thing that was doing
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that at the time was just specials you have to get like a special out and that's that that became just my goal was
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to get an hour special out and then when it did come out it did uh change things
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for me first one change things yeah well the half hour did that's the funny thing
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is I remember the producer uh in comedies at Comedy Central I'm in New York and we're shooting uh Comedy
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Central presents which was like I thought I mean a huge goal right because every comic that I looked up to had him
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presents and I shot it and it went well and I remember the producer pulling me aside going this is going to change your
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road work and I was like really and I got so excited but I tried to keep it inside I was like oh thank you so much
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oh thank you God and it came out and when it came out you know I saw I saw like some
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stuff on social media or whatever and then I was like what's about to happen
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and I called my agent and I was like Hey I want to work this club and he's like
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okay and he called and he goes yeah they said no and I go yeah but I I have a Comedy
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Central presents but I did a game changer they don't they don't care everyone says Game Changer my agents
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every year used to go this is going to be your year and I go you [ __ ] like you say that every year and it gets me
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actually I believe it I go yeah this one they're like yeah I go like they know
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something I go they just say that to shut you up and I'm like oh my god well
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what should I do to prepare and then that's what you were doing is like I gotta presents under my belt that's
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funny when people go you do a premium brand blend you do presents you know that's the lingo dude yeah and I really
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thought like this is gonna be a real thing for me like this is gonna make things different you know I really did I
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agree I mean do you think that's you're famous you go I will be famous starting
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tomorrow did you from that first half hour did you feel like um I'll just get better or or did you
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did you work even harder or how did did you keep improving from that point because the writing I'm seeing now is is
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so you know as good as it gets it's a bit you're Landing um and the acting you're doing in it I
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mean when did that come up was it sort of the first one that went on Netflix or something did you make leaps even or was
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it just exposure you were already completely I think I always I think I always stay you know it's funny you
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you're around you're around comedians obviously all the time right as a comic
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and you see you realize what a disease the um the bitterness of these guys yeah never hang out with comedians I hate you
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guys yeah it's like they're they're just but they're just like miserable about
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their like [ __ ] just never work and I I always try to stay away from those like
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that or at least I you can't stay away from it but you go I don't want to
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embrace that and so I told myself that I was like well if this didn't change
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things like the way that I go it's the next thing and the next thing The Next
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Step Up would be the full hour so I was like I need to do an hour special which again
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became like my my soul goal and uh and I only cared about being on Comedy Central
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because that's that was the spot I was like it was 2013 I was like it's got to
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be Comedy Central and we invited Comedy Central to see it and they said they literally said what's
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they said well there's not really a theme that was the feedback I got oh really I mean I told my manager at the
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time I was like I think the theme is jokes you know Tom I'm more like that too I I I look at some people's act and
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I go when they do a whole special about something I'm baffled yeah I can't I
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can't even come up with jokes about just when you have the whole playing field
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you can do a joke about anything in the world and then when they go I'm gonna do
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them about just about my divorce the whole thing and you go the whole thing holy [ __ ] and I still can't my whole my
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all my hours are like a bit about this bit about that bit I mean it's never like here's the cohesive yeah so we
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still we ended up shooting it on spec and we still sent it to Comedy Central I love it because they only seen like a
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version of it at a club and I go right here's the finished product and they said no again
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[Music] wow so how does Tom Segura because I like to I like to use the name in that
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context how do you deal with that kind of rejection are you bummed out for a week or because I auditioned for SNL
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once and I was I followed Kennison at the store and it was a death trap and a death set and I was kind of I wouldn't
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say clinically depressed I would I wouldn't label myself as depressed but I was really it was so good I was bummed
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out for a couple months just that that's that's that so when you hear no that
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toot now it's two times in a row are you pretty resilient obviously you wouldn't
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be here um do you take a knee for a day I mean you have a couple beers I mean what do
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you what do you how do you process it all all show those [ __ ] might be a good way to go I'm definitely
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bummed I'm definitely you know in the moment a little bitter I'm definitely
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like this is such [ __ ] [ __ ] I'm looking at the um the ones that they did choose and I'm
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like you you took this piece of [ __ ] oh yeah there you go you look like De Niro
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for a second you took this piece of [ __ ] [ __ ] piece of [ __ ] um that's your hilarious theme act you
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love so much also like what's the theme of this [ __ ] dog [ __ ] yeah oh the
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theme is dog [ __ ] okay and then I actually got you know it's I've I've said it before but like the
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same call where I get the no the the news that they're passing I'm just on the phone I pulled over I
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was like out in La Cienega and I pulled over and I was like okay I'm just listening he goes and then
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he goes by the way uh we sent it to HBO and I go seriously and he goes yeah they
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said no too and I'm like okay why would you even tell me this I I and then he's
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like uh send it to show time they said no no across the floor I'm like cool and then he goes but
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um Netflix and it's and in 2013 it's like it's it's a thing but it's not like that place to
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be yeah yeah House of Cards had was around that time or just maybe maybe because that that was a big sea change
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how's the carbs they're doing Kevin Spacey's going on Netflix you were right
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at the edge of it right yeah I think it's close but I don't think it's out
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yet and then he's like no like they're getting a lot of subscribers now and I'm
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like great that's how the phone call ends I go all right well thanks and I'm just kind of
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bummed out but I go what can I do and what I can do is literally go back to work so I just like go back on the road
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and I just act like I guess I gotta just come up with a new hour and try this again I don't know that is probably six
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months before but wait you but you got the the news that Netflix wanted your horrible hour yeah and uh they go
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they're into bad comedy right now this is our window yeah but you don't give it
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to him no I do oh you do okay let's go like fine it'll come out you know later
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like whatever and I just completely just move on you did the opposite you didn't
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Bank everything on it you just said [ __ ] it good throw it out it's gonna die on
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Netflix whatever it's called I thought it would definitely do less for me than
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the presents yeah yeah right and then I just it came out and I remember when it came out like
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you know like again you see some tweets and like people a couple people said that you're like I stopped me hey I saw
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I was like great and um great [ __ ] you I didn't think anything of it and then
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like three months later I remember I did a uh I did the Cleveland improv and uh the
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guy the manager comes up to me at the end of the week he goes I don't know why
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the [ __ ] this happened but you sold some tickets this weekend wow that gave me that that gave me the
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chills though I mean the fact that you're suddenly valuable in some way that's a rush that's a lifelong goal
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that you're like wait that sentence Oh yeah you're selling a [ __ ] ton of
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tickets when that starts to happen it's like and here's the thing here's how
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[ __ ] removed from the correlation of the two I I was like wait why he's like
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no I don't know why and he's shocked that's how he doesn't think you're that good or just
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it's done man he like sends me the breakdown he's like look at this [ __ ]
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and I'm like what is that he goes well you hit some bonuses but he goes I don't
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know man and then he just like walked away and I just thought well that was a good weekend and I still wasn't like oh
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the special's working you know uh and then the next few months it started to
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happen more and more and more and then it became a thing where it was like Hey you sold out this weekend like the whole
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weekend sold out that was probably after like six months wow it took that long to seep right yes
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yes wow and that was the one called completely normal 2014. yeah we shot it in 13 it came out 14 and then by 15 I
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was just doing uh well by the end of 14 I was selling out clubs and then in 15 I
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was doing like rock clubs and you know like one-nighters and like small theaters or just like I could like add I
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could go to like a club on a Monday and just they'd give me the door and I would
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just you know I started to work like that like casinos too right man casinos are where it's at yeah casinos pay more
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but sometimes the audience can be a little a little tough this is a crazy inside baseball thing but there are
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casinos and this is really crazy when you actually just do the finance like the the numbers on this there are a
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number of casinos that will pay well over the gross of the show and when you think of that you're like wait what the
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show is grossing x amount and they're going to pay you over that and then you
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realize well there's a there's a cow calculation that they do they're like if
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this many people come to the casino we don't even care that we're parting
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with this because these people are going to get rooms gamble drink eat and you're
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like the way that it becomes a little like ecosystem sure yes of an economy on on in a night is it's really fascinating
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playing the Desert Inn in Vegas which was an incredible room now it's the win
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it was blowing up 600 seats low ceiling I go down for the sound check and they got a Goomba type manager there and I go
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how do you take the sale how are the ticket sales and this is a quote Mark Pitta was there my opener he goes what
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do I give a [ __ ] I got Indonesians dropping 10 Lodge upstairs tonight yeah that's all it is Indonesians
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dropping 10 large but yeah and they do the analytics they told me they'll see
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what Carrot Top numbers are or like how much money is dropped in the casino that
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on your night yeah on your does your audience go out and then does your audience drink does your audience does
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your audience get drunk and leverage their house do our high rollers ask for your tickets because you can see the
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front row and a lot of times when you do Vegas or in these places casinos the front row is sparse or it's choppy
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because people go give me tickets to everything I'm a high roller and I go you got two tickets up front if you want
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them you got this this and you know they walk in like Meghan Markle in the middle
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of your set if they want but sometimes they go nah we you know I think what the calculation is they just need to get
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them and the showroom is always in the very farthest corner of the casino so they have to walk by and they calculate
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they probably spend 22 on slots on the way out of boredom they walk by our restaurants they probably eat at one now
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they're aware of our casino because Tom Segura isn't they've never come here but
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because we're mixing up our ax they go oh I'll go see him and then they go oh
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I've never been to this casino I'll come back so they they got to get them in somehow
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they don't want you to do your act yeah get them in touch base and go back out I
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just had this happen at a casino this is wild I'm backstage and it's a big room
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it's a 6 000 seat room so wow basically uh it's a what they consider a half
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Arena right yeah okay that type of shell design yeah yeah big room and there's um
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and in those types of rooms the way that it's laid out it's kind of hard you
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can't really peek out they have huge you know scaffolding and curtains everywhere
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but I hear Kirk Fox who's on stage and I hear him at one point go hey man he goes
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hey hey man you you got to calm down okay and it's not like I'm like this is
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definitely some [ __ ] if Kirk is saying that he's pretty chill great yeah he's
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pretty chill and he's like it's he's so funny and um so I I it makes my ear you
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know it catches my ear so I turn and I'm like what's going on so I I try to see but I can't really see
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I just see Kirk up there on the stage and then you know a few minutes pass and he goes hey hey man hey dude I'm telling
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you I know I want you to stay but you gotta calm down and so then I'm back I'm backstage and I
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got like at these you know at these big casinos there's like 200 security staff
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like it's a lot of security right so I they start coming around I hear they're all on their walkies and their
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earpieces and they're so I'm like what is happening and they're like well
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there's there's this guy in the front row and I'm like what's gonna happen
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what are we gonna what's gonna what are you gonna do yeah and they go well we
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think it's going to be too disruptive to remove him during Kirk's set so what
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we're going to do is because he's like getting through it he's almost done
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when he gets off stage and you're gonna about to go on stage that's when we'll
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remove him and I go hey man it's it's your like your security do whatever you
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want I just I just want to know what's going on and that they're like that's
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what we're gonna do I go okay great Kirk finishes his says good night he walks
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off stage they start playing a song and that's like my cue that I have like 10
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seconds and then I walk on stage so I walk on stage and as I walk on stage I grab the mic and I see like eight nine
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yellow security shirts you know big black letters on it all gathered around this dude in the front row oh God so I'm
00:27:17
just you know how's everybody doing I'm still like what's up and I grabbed the
00:27:21
mic and I'm like hey and I I can't even get out the first sentence and this
00:27:28
becomes Mayhem right so like they are holding this guy and I see his head pop out from under like a Choco and he goes
00:27:37
Tom Tom oh my God yeah he goes I came to see you and I go what do you mean to do
00:27:44
and he goes help me oh my God I go I think it's beyond my control now they start to pull him and dude it's
00:27:55
taking like six seven guys his girl pops up and she [ __ ] punches one of the one
00:28:03
of the security guys yeah and I'm like and I'm sitting here from the stage I
00:28:07
haven't started talking yet Everyone's Watching and you you're all just
00:28:11
watching yeah and there's the Jumbotron I'm watching you watch yeah and I'm just
00:28:16
like you gotta be kidding me she turns and starts yelling at me too I go what do you want me to do she takes her beer
00:28:23
throws it on one of the security guys the guys start dragging the guy out and when they drag him out he takes them
00:28:31
into an aisle so he he drags Security Guys into an aisle I see shoes come off pants come off they finally get them
00:28:39
stood up underwears off he's fully naked in the arena now right it's Conor
00:28:44
McGregor I'm like oh my God this guy's like uh I would say maybe five nine 265
00:28:50
270 pounds okay so looks good with his clothes off looks great it's a nice shot
00:28:56
I'm able to put like the show back on the tracks I finally get off stage and I'm like I'm
00:29:03
like dude that was a [ __ ] wildest opening to a show I've ever had and they
00:29:07
go yeah you know the cops here that guy's in jail blah blah blah like half an hour later
00:29:14
we're walking through the casino there's the guy no there's the guy in
00:29:20
this and I'm like how is he walking around you betrayed me he doesn't see me but when he walks by
00:29:28
we're all like that's the guy and we talked to one of the security people
00:29:32
high roller he's a front row High Roller whale yeah he's a whale they're like yeah I go this
00:29:39
dude this dude like knocked one of your and then what they get away with they're
00:29:46
like yeah 10 grand a hand dude it's fine it's totally fine willing to look the
00:29:50
other way so how did you I how long did it take you to feel like you're doing your set
00:29:55
then after he goes out naked and they're screaming and fighting did you go into
00:29:59
your set or you do like old club stuff where you kind of do all quasi crowd work you know the funny thing is it's
00:30:05
always less time than you think like in your head you're like that was 10 minutes it's really like three but three
00:30:11
minutes of talking about something that's happening in the room is a long time and it's not jokes and you're in
00:30:17
Uncharted Territory you don't know if it's funny and you wanted to start going
00:30:20
anyway dogs are funny and everyone goes oh we're back in the ACT did you did you
00:30:26
get an angle on it Tom because you're experienced because a lot of times I would instant intuitively go from that
00:30:31
guy's point of view let's go to the show tonight it's gonna be great or or just
00:30:35
find an angle uh about it you know yeah I I was making commentary about it I was asking you
00:30:42
know when I I was asking like I would see big muscular dudes like you know where were you we needed you like a
00:30:48
moment ago okay there you go anytime that I would say something in the act that referenced like somebody who is
00:30:56
um out of their mind yeah drunk or Dr you know I'd make reference to the guy
00:31:01
he was like he was like a call back built-in callback is nice I would also tell the people how I would I would
00:31:08
reference other popular Comedians and how they would not have gotten that at one of their shows you know I was like
00:31:13
oh that's your crowd and that every every night you have some naked guy fighting security guards it's not a
00:31:19
thing I was like you think you're gonna get this at a Sebastian show you know
00:31:22
what's good Dana do you ever do this one where you go these guys that work their
00:31:26
jokes in they go uh uh like they go where are you from the guy goes he wants to hear Cleveland and
00:31:32
he goes Cincinnati goes this guy last night was from Cleveland and he said and you go was it always last night and I go
00:31:38
I see the guy seven nights in a row say it I go oh that's just part of Zach if
00:31:42
they're not if it's not what he wants to hear or you could go this guy last night
00:31:46
started some [ __ ] in the front row and then you say that for three years yeah everything's last night or what is the
00:31:51
town that you mentioned that will get a big reaction like I was I was in you know Bucks County and you know whatever
00:31:57
Town away that that just gets a huge laugh in Fresno it was uh Merced I think or you know just you have to be a
00:32:06
reliable person Dana they give you the wrong one and it bombs yeah just to [ __ ]
00:32:12
with you it's like in a corporate gig when they go make fun of the crowd and
00:32:15
then the guy goes I I know everybody here you know what's funny talk about our uh VP of sales he has three balls
00:32:22
and beats his wife say something about that and I go uh well I don't know and
00:32:26
then you say something and everyone's like what the [ __ ] are you talking about
00:32:28
and the guy's like isn't that hilarious and you're like no Jim has Ms but he's
00:32:33
got a sense of humor about it he really laughs about it you're like yeah okay
00:32:36
okay yeah so Jay Leno tell me he was doing a corporate date and he's just making fun of some couple you know a lot
00:32:44
of people you know they hook up when they're on the roads this and that and then the woman was next to the guy and
00:32:49
she she's got up and screamed and cried and ran out you know you don't know what what you're you're
00:32:56
touching Tom when you were doing this with the Dana I'm sorry I have to go back you the the one the information you
00:33:03
didn't have which might have helped is what went on for so long was he pushing people was he yelling I
00:33:10
got I found out I found out so I when I when all the [ __ ] finally came I was like Kirk what was happening he was like
00:33:17
dude he and this is one this is one of the worst things people think about you know about heckling and stuff he was
00:33:24
repeating everything that Kirk said back to Kirk but he's in the front row and
00:33:31
loudly so like you know Kirk would be like and then you know I rode the bus he'd be like you rode the bus
00:33:39
he was just like hey man like you just gotta relax I just had that The Comedy Store the guy I don't even know if
00:33:46
something was up with him but he looked like he's in a great time and he just kept saying my punch line
00:33:52
after to the people around him it's the worst but everyone hears it and it stops
00:33:57
my next setup and I'm like I go hey man you know I try to be nice and when they kicked him out he was the
00:34:03
same thing he's like David Tom wouldn't help me but would you would you God but
00:34:10
he did say hey man he looks up to me and that's the weirdest feeling I'm like I
00:34:15
can't I have to let you go now I had a guy on the balcony scream I got even know what's going on it's a balcony
00:34:26
it's a melee now theater this is a different show so I'm just on stage and he just starts to
00:34:33
yell they're throwing out the wrong guy right and I'm like what he's like
00:34:39
they're throwing out the wrong guy wow and I go I don't know it sounds like the
00:34:47
right guy to me like all of it too is all always related to just boost they're
00:34:52
always just drunk yeah yeah that guy in the front row was drunk this guy's drunk
00:34:56
yeah it's always alcohol I sometimes will get because a church lady just someone in the back about every 10
00:35:03
seconds just going lady throughout my set lady so gross yeah that's why we love
00:35:13
stand up when you have a hotties when they start Dana they start yelling at each other and it's pure chaos this
00:35:19
guy's like hey shut the [ __ ] up and he goes [ __ ] you yeah and I go yeah when
00:35:25
the audience is heckling each other this is [ __ ] amazing or that you look over
00:35:29
and they're standing at the edge of the stage a drunk guy six foot five is just
00:35:33
standing there he's on the stage with you now do you hold your ground we ask
00:35:36
of me and you hold your ground I don't I said you got it go ahead some people if
00:35:40
they have a guitar they'll fight or try to fight for the stage if someone storms
00:35:45
it I leave but you're pretty you look pretty like you could handle yourself physically Tom you probably could fight
00:35:51
a Heckler I don't know it depends on the if he's six five um all right make him five ten oh yeah
00:35:57
I'm taking the mic stand and Swinging it at him for sure yeah let's go man
00:36:04
[Music] so what I'm curious about to Pivot for a second if you guys want is that
00:36:10
fairly recently because I've been at this a long time you just started to make some money
00:36:16
real money you're stacking money in the bank you're you get you know it's it's
00:36:21
happening right you're making real money it's Fort Knox over there and now it's
00:36:25
just only six seven years later and you're you have at least probably 50 grand net in the bank right now so easy
00:36:33
but anyway you've got an incredibly uh successful in such a short period of time outside the systems uh I don't have
00:36:40
a question it's just an observation it's just an extraordinary story that we hear
00:36:45
about as comedians Tom's doing this Tom did that Tom did a live stream Tom Tom
00:36:52
that's all I hear about it's it's really fun and Sebastian and then there's
00:36:57
Sebastian too there's just people yeah I hear about him well you're doing a lot
00:37:00
of stuff now Tom my question is when you are doing okay let's say you do sort of
00:37:05
maybe like a formula where we jumped off you do a special looks like you did one
00:37:10
mostly stories for Netflix so then they ask you for another one and your first one obviously seeped in so you go yeah
00:37:17
I'll do another one but now you have to come up with a new hour I guess that's
00:37:20
hard so you do that and now it's a system are you starting a podcast around now or did you have it I started the
00:37:28
podcast um three years um almost three years before the first special oh okay so 2010 or okay late
00:37:40
2010 I started the the podcast okay the cool thing about that was those definitely started to feed each
00:37:48
other sure even if you know I don't know I remember at one point I think we had
00:37:53
twenty thousand listeners on the podcast you know spread out that's not that many people but if
00:38:00
you're just trying to do like a one-nighter somewhere and you're like hey I'm going to Chicago
00:38:04
and you know of those 20 000 people listening you might have like a thousand in Chicago and you might be able to get
00:38:12
400 of them to come out that is actually a big deal at that at that point because
00:38:17
yeah you're selling 400 tickets when people are like how this how the hell did you get 400 people to come out
00:38:23
tonight you know they're buying booze it helps the club oh yeah that that was a
00:38:28
huge game changer then and then when the special came out and people go hey I like this guy Rick you know I like your
00:38:36
your special what else do you have and you know they discovered the podcast you know some of them like it some of them
00:38:42
don't but you're definitely bringing in a new audience of people so those have
00:38:48
Contin every special and every year of the podcast they've continued to grow
00:38:51
and they feed each other they feed each other and um and now there's just tremendous amounts of money yeah well
00:38:57
we're rich too I know no I mean I grew up incredibly middle class barely David his nickname is
00:39:05
Silver Spoon it was always easy my parents were both strippers I made money I got paid in ones
00:39:12
uh I slept on a bed with covered in ones every night my mom would throw them out
00:39:16
at me and my dad um Tom uh you will get to this other stuff too I have a lot of personal
00:39:23
questions I have to ask you off camera you had a good year Spade don't don't
00:39:26
lie no I'm fine well I did my I did an HBO special years ago and that really didn't affect stand-up
00:39:33
because I wasn't doing it much I was on just shoot me and stuff but I wasn't out
00:39:37
that much you know so I do the Improv in Irvine or San Diego or something which is great but I wasn't really making a
00:39:42
lot of money in stand-up and so I didn't really capitalize off it other than it
00:39:46
made me more known in some way you know I noticed with Tom on uh the disgraceful
00:39:51
one where the audience gave you a standing ovation that was the 2018. that seemed to be another giant leap
00:39:58
yeah that propelled uh the next tour to each tour has gone like another level I mean the current tour was it was a is a
00:40:07
was a huge leap from the 2019 tour so I looked at it I it's kind of unfathomable
00:40:14
yeah yeah all over the world and but you know I think going for my own head the the theme idea you know you are the
00:40:23
message you know your likability and relatability and you can it's you can see where the orange go
00:40:30
that that's our guy you know because you're going into territory where you're
00:40:34
working completely clean and then you'll also just surprise everybody and go
00:40:40
wherever you want to go and then you'll you'll make it okay it's it's I I get
00:40:44
your popularity I've spent a day watching all your stuff so oh thanks I unders I understand it you are
00:40:50
Politically Incorrect which I think and and some of your stuff which is a blessing but you don't lean on it yeah I
00:40:58
think um I don't know there's this thing I'm sure it's not anything new but I just always
00:41:03
tried to I remember people saying early on they're like just the thing you have to do is say things
00:41:10
that make you laugh like don't go I may I want I wonder if people will like this
00:41:14
and I'll say it like I try to stick to like genuinely this point of view makes
00:41:20
me laugh this story makes me laugh if I think something is uh I'm talking about
00:41:24
like a a a societal Norm is worth worthy of mockery than like oh I go for I go I'm gonna I think I I feel like mocking
00:41:32
this so then I I just do that but I'm not doing it because I hope this audience likes it and this one won't I
00:41:39
just I try to stay honest to what makes me laugh and also when you walk out there and your whole physical demeanor
00:41:45
and you're you're so relaxed I mean even Next Level and so comfortable it's a
00:41:51
living room so if something doesn't land you kind of smile like drowning the dog
00:41:55
you know it's not about you'd have to for people who are listening right now
00:41:59
it's a long story about loving his kid more than an animal but and then the way
00:42:04
you you just went places people don't expect and so that's the antithesis a
00:42:08
boredom you you don't know what Tom sugar is going to do and you can't see
00:42:12
it coming you don't want an act where you can see it coming and you go and then he's going to say this and then
00:42:17
that but that is a hard thing to do but it doesn't like Dan was saying you're
00:42:23
out of the box a bit so you're sort of underground but famous and then uh and
00:42:30
you make a ton of money more than most people that people are know of that are you know household names and you've done
00:42:36
it on your own on your own terms and also I don't think you are as worried about getting canceled
00:42:42
because what are they canceling you from you're Your Own Boss your own podcast
00:42:46
what am I going to get not hired to do yeah your your own show you have 54 podcasts you have Dana you know his tour
00:42:55
is called I'm coming everywhere it's funny funniest name um uh I heard you talking about that and
00:43:02
I heard you talking about taking a private jet which which is hard to talk about of course but it is fun to talk
00:43:08
about because you're right that in some of those instances there's almost no way to get
00:43:13
to where you got to go without I mean there here's what I actually explained
00:43:18
on a couple of podcasts was the fact that if you're touring as insanely as I'm talking about the logistically yeah
00:43:25
I go I don't have to Charter a plane but I go I what I would have to do is reduce
00:43:32
this tour like there's there's there would be no way to go I'm doing
00:43:36
Ottawa and then Spokane and then Eugene and then Boise I go well you just can't
00:43:42
do that if you're flying commercially so we would just change the tour sure I
00:43:47
mean it's what you want to do and if you can Factor it in and you're making up
00:43:51
it's fine it's really just oh a numbers game and if you on my tour I don't do it
00:43:57
as uh hitting the pavement as hard as you but when I do it and I have three nights in a row usually
00:44:04
if there's a connection involved it's already red flag because that's a red
00:44:08
flag with no one coming to work lately covid canceled flights you're like I and
00:44:13
I don't like going the day before every show because that's such a production
00:44:17
then you're there all night then all day again so decisions have to be made but
00:44:22
it's obviously private jets perk people's ears because it's one of those
00:44:27
things that even if you're rich it's out of your league like it's such it's such
00:44:33
an excess it's such an Indulgence it is time travel like the the thing that's
00:44:37
crazy about it is you go I can't believe the show ended and now we're in the next
00:44:42
city and it's only been two hours like if it feels like you teleported the thing about it is you go you know like I
00:44:49
you don't have to do it it does make a tour like this possible I will say this you know we don't do it
00:44:55
like every leg of this tour every flight or anything the times on this tour that
00:45:01
we've done uh commercial travel 90 of them have come with an issue meaning like delays cancellations it has
00:45:12
so every time we do it we're like oh my God it like we're so much more appreciative of when we have been able
00:45:18
to charge because it has it has screwed up almost every leg of the of travel that we've done with it you know oh yeah
00:45:24
you got to come in early then because you can't trust uh commercial yeah and
00:45:29
so you have a job to do I I heard that early on when Louis CK first did a citation 10 like okay I gotta do this
00:45:37
and so we do three dates so the first date would just pay for the jet yeah and then do the next two dates that's how
00:45:44
different it is and in terms of your health and wellness when you're touring
00:45:48
like you are like more than 200 dates a year the multiple flights in the hotel you can beat the [ __ ] out of yourself
00:45:54
like it's not it does I mean we do that travel which obviously like makes it
00:45:59
nicer I bring a trainer with me dude I bring a trainer with me because it's trying to just keep your mental and
00:46:07
physical health going yeah it's [ __ ] so demanding it's it's just not it's it
00:46:13
shouldn't be uh allowable if you have the means to have a trainer and eat well
00:46:18
and actually do the tour and end up not hurting your health you know it's people
00:46:22
kind of ignore that but why am I doing this if I'm going to end up coming back
00:46:26
home and have gained all this weight and have migraines or whatever so I'm glad
00:46:31
to hear that you're pacing it that way and I've done that you know like in my
00:46:34
earlier years my touring which was at not at this level was me gaining 30 pounds in a year and feeling like [ __ ]
00:46:43
all the time because you're eating at every airport and eating and you know and if you can control it plus you know
00:46:49
the bottom line is for me I'm sure you guys too you owe the audience a good show and you need to be present it's
00:46:55
harder than it seems to sit there and do your hour or over an hour whatever and go it's like a play you have to remember
00:47:02
all the connective tissue and all everything and it has to flow and if you're out of it a little bit
00:47:07
sometimes you're missing beats and just off Rhythm and uh they pay the price so
00:47:13
they're paying a lot they're coming out they're getting babysitters you're like
00:47:17
[ __ ] I gotta get there on time I got to be ready I gotta look okay and I think
00:47:21
everyone feels that so whatever it takes yeah you gotta try it you gotta try man
00:47:25
and I I always like you know um I don't know if you ever do this but like you're
00:47:28
backstage and maybe you're you know you're worn out you're just dragging
00:47:32
you're like man it's a [ __ ] seventh show this week and yeah fourth city and
00:47:37
I'm like God damn it and and I'll be on my phone and I'll pull up and this is
00:47:42
like I guess the the upside to to seeing a social media thing I'll see things I'm
00:47:47
tagged in and you see people in the audience yeah yeah and then I see that and I'm like oh man they're like so
00:47:53
pumped to be here and it completely changes my my like my mental state before I go I'm like you know what these
00:48:00
people are excited I need to get excited I need to like wake up and appreciate the fact that there is people here and
00:48:06
like try to have a good show but it's easy to fall into the other side you know yeah I think I call it the forget
00:48:12
to have fun yeah problem and if you forget to have fun and you're out there and you're not it's not it's not feeling
00:48:18
right and you go I forgot to have fun do you have a trick do you have a like I I
00:48:22
used to like I I always say that um the best version of myself as a comedian and
00:48:28
this is a very simple way of describing it but I think it's that when I walk on
00:48:32
stage in a silly mood like me feeling silly is the best version of Stand Up that I can be but what I forget
00:48:42
sometimes is to remind myself of that and to like to to and I'll and I'll I'll
00:48:47
sometimes I'll see an image and for me and my own memories it's for some reason
00:48:51
it's Seeing Eddie Murphy um in his early days like like in delirious and stuff because I feel like
00:48:58
that's a fun silly guy so like if I see that image I'll be like oh that guy's
00:49:02
like having fun he's out he's he's having a good time please play full yes
00:49:06
so I always wonder like what other people do to switch into a different headspace do you ever do anything to
00:49:13
like switch your headspace well the minute I come out I probably I probably make a fool of myself but I put on
00:49:19
Suspicious Minds normally by Elvis Presley and that switch it seems so absurd and doesn't make any sense and
00:49:26
I'm coming out to that I try to get into the absurdity of what I'm doing up there
00:49:30
but um the first laugh kind of gets me going you know but I've got in the olden
00:49:35
days when you're first doing standard you're going God I don't I don't feel
00:49:39
funny today I don't feel very funny you're very superstitious and later on
00:49:42
you go you can be sick you don't feel funny at all you're just and then have
00:49:45
your best show so you get used to it but yeah Dan and I have a few questions about your podcast you have uh uh your
00:49:52
mom's house correct you have uh that's your lovely wife with your lovely wife
00:49:57
yes Christina p and who I know and she's great she was on lights out um also you have
00:50:04
one with that guy who's that big guy oh real heavy guy flirt fly sir it was fun and you met him years
00:50:16
ago and just I mean was that you already had your first podcast was that going into doing a second one yes you know the
00:50:23
the funny thing was we talked about it and we threw it together and I thought we
00:50:28
were we we came up with the idea to do it twice a month this was like I was like why don't we do this twice a month
00:50:34
just for fun sure and um you know within a couple months the feedback was like people were so into it
00:50:44
they were like all right we gotta do it every week and now we we do it every week he has to fly here I've flown to LA
00:50:50
to do it we if we don't if we can't get together we each one of us will sit with
00:50:54
a guest to do it but it's become a huge huge podcast and like you know companies approach us and want
00:51:03
us to be like their partners and things and it's just it's literally just the
00:51:07
two of us just shooting the [ __ ] yeah mostly him just rambling incoherently about his nonsense
00:51:15
well it's a good team I mean when he had sober October we were I saw that episode
00:51:21
and you know it was just it it it it I think long term and things are funny it's great but then also you're kind of
00:51:29
feeling a real thing happening between two friends like and he's we're good
00:51:32
good friends I mean I got him you know we've been getting each other crazy birthday gifts for years now I just got
00:51:38
him uh Hitler's uh teacup and um I got him a bust made of himself and and like
00:51:43
uh you know we always I saw one of those in uh Sky Mall they have yeah there's a
00:51:48
lot of Hitler stuff the best one I had to go through a white supremacist it was a lot of work can I ask you about the
00:51:53
video aspect so you did you always do it on video on YouTube or did you ever do just an audio podcast Audio Only For the
00:52:00
First let's see 2010 11 12. wow 13. um and then we started to do video just like we would
00:52:12
put up like 10 or 15 minutes I don't know what what that was we did that in like
00:52:16
2014. we were like oh here's 15 minutes of this yeah from the show and then we
00:52:22
finally were like we need to we we set up sticks and we got uh that going and that eventually became
00:52:29
a huge game changer having it on I mean you know having on YouTube is like a huge huge huge did you get the same
00:52:37
amount of audio listens and then you got the additional or was it even more audio
00:52:42
listens it's evolved in different ways so like audio was obviously the only thing and then you throw in video you
00:52:48
start getting views but the audio is much bigger and it was also still from an advertising perspective they're like
00:52:55
audio downloads are all that matters when the video views started to go above a certain amount
00:53:02
um is when people were like okay we can't like we can't ignore the fact that
00:53:07
there are hundreds of thousands of views on this thing it's like a TV show they're like
00:53:12
it's worth advertising on is what is what it came down to and then you know you had to convince some of the people
00:53:18
were like well that's just the same people and you're like what do you talk
00:53:22
you think people are listening to episode and then going and watching a two-hour thing like what are you talking
00:53:27
about and that you know they also would make the argument well we don't know how
00:53:31
many like you know if you if you listen to a song on YouTube if you watch the video of a song you might watch it six
00:53:37
times they're like what if people are doing that on your podcast and you're
00:53:41
like you think they're re-watching two and a half hour podcast so I had I would
00:53:47
get in the shouting matches with advertising people about this like actual shouting matches and you do it
00:53:53
you I was [ __ ] yelling at these people yeah and then like the year [ __ ] changes and they go oh hey by
00:54:01
the way we wanted to inquire about advertising on the uh video portion I'm like yeah you mean the thing I've been
00:54:07
talking to you about for two years years and so that then became a thing that um
00:54:13
is highly valuable and you know you you just obviously you watch the bigger thing like you know you see like a Rogan
00:54:20
Show when he was on uh on YouTube you're like look man there's 10 million people watching this
00:54:25
you don't think that's worthy like those that's all those eyeballs man and yeah
00:54:31
um I think now if you start a podcast you know and the clips go out Clips is a big thing Clips is a huge thing a lot of
00:54:38
times you know if you if you think about it your fan base is going to consume the
00:54:43
whole thing the talking about the full it's like scope of people most of them want to see
00:54:49
a bite-sized thing like in our world here the uh you know we've had a number
00:54:57
of Clips go viral but they're all they're the clips these like moments that that blow up and but it would not
00:55:04
have happened without video it you know video is what took it over hmm yeah and then you go into your uh
00:55:10
once I contacted you about when I heard that you were doing live shows such an interesting idea and it was a huge
00:55:17
success and that was a pandemic was smart move and that was another game changer right kind of saved my ass dude
00:55:25
like I mean you know my main thing I mean obviously the podcast is a fixed thing and you go okay we have ads and
00:55:32
and roughly will make this much yeah and everything associated with it but you're
00:55:36
like you know I'm a touring comedian and then when when the pandemic hit and
00:55:40
you're like oh wait there's there's none of this like this is completely done
00:55:44
that was like well how do we do and it was an experiment my agent um my touring agent was like you should
00:55:51
try this he just I go well we have to figure out um an angle so we we tried it and we're
00:55:57
like all right we'll do ten dollar tickets like it's a it's a reasonable
00:56:00
price and we'll show things that you can't show on YouTube and we'll shoot
00:56:04
some sketches so we add some value to the show why like that's the hard part
00:56:08
the value yeah but then you go for ten dollars if if you do three or four sketches and you show some stuff you
00:56:16
can't see it anywhere else and you you know you and you bring in a guest and we
00:56:19
had a musical guest you're like all right this is like it is a thing yeah if
00:56:23
this was a 10 ticket to walk into a venue you'd be like yeah that's that's
00:56:27
worth it and that thing went [ __ ] bananas and so once we saw that I told the um because you know agents
00:56:37
are always like let's make it twenty dollars I was like no yeah well I go we keep it ten dollar
00:56:44
tickets and we just try to move to let's just try to do volume and we we started
00:56:49
to do them like every six or eight weeks or something and um spending over a hundred grand
00:56:55
producing the episode so it's not like it's not just like oh hey here's my
00:57:01
friend yeah we we actually put money into making it a special event and and into production
00:57:11
[Music] just for a second Tom because I'm curious about details what where was that you have two Studios
00:57:19
where were you interviewing Tarantino because I love that interview which is was just recently on Quentin Tarantino
00:57:25
is that your studio right there okay did you get to the part where he roasted me
00:57:30
for not reading his book no I didn't like that I was impressed with your knowledge of Pulp Fiction I mean there
00:57:37
was a lot of Pulp Fiction I really was like I I was asking all the questions I want
00:57:42
to ask Quentin Tarantino yeah and he's there going like I want to talk about
00:57:46
this [ __ ] book yeah and then at the end he's like hey uh what page are you
00:57:52
on I was like oh no and he's kind of he's kind of intimidating oh yeah yeah
00:57:57
and I was like so you're on page three is that what I'm getting out of this and
00:58:01
I was like uh if that ah Dana remember we did uh because we're talking about
00:58:07
SNL this whole time we we did Quentin Tarantino's Welcome Back Cotter uh that
00:58:13
sketch and it was uh I got to play horse Shack oh oh Mr Carter and uh and then it was I guess John
00:58:23
Travolta was a host so he he came in yeah he came in and and they shot up everyone it was like a bloody sketch
00:58:31
that got really bad really quick but I don't think Quentin was on the show I
00:58:34
think it was only because it was John Travolta he was he was hanging out he said yeah okay he really has that like
00:58:41
Savant level knowledge of Cinema to the point where you're like yeah I mean like he is citing you know
00:58:49
the composer from this movie in 63 and the actor who also appeared in the thing you're like dude I don't know I don't
00:58:56
know what the [ __ ] you're talking about but I like movies too I I I love movies
00:59:01
but yeah he is he is the next level of Next Level and the way you guys broke down that scene and Inglorious Bastards
00:59:07
the whole uh American speaking German that whole segment and how he said he a lot of times you'll see his scenes and
00:59:14
there's a familiarity to them but he's doing things and he's making them better
00:59:18
than you've ever seen them done and that was the case of it an original take on a
00:59:22
on on something we've seen you know yes I I love his movies I love his movies
00:59:27
yeah me too I I was hosting Jimmy Kimmel and he came out and I I couldn't help
00:59:31
but I go I love you I was just like I said because I know you through your choices yeah your movies and I just
00:59:38
appreciate your sense of humor you know yeah so funny may I have another glass of your delicious milk Christoph walls
00:59:46
some glorious bastards yeah so good listen Tom's a Cincinnati native I'm
00:59:51
wrapping him up watch sustaina let me see my my parents grew up went to Denison uh which is a college in
00:59:58
Cincinnati or did you not know that don't Tarantino me Denison is where they
01:00:03
both went you're not lighting up enough about that you're you are part Cajun
01:00:08
cage old man is from Cajun you overdose on GHB at 19. I like why is that in Tacoma short coma yeah a coma is
01:00:19
terrifying it was 25 years ago last week it was the day after Thanksgiving 25 years ago you know it was the first time
01:00:25
I was freshman in college I got together with all the people who are like back you know you're back home for the first
01:00:30
time yeah oh yeah I just was on a tear that night and I was drinking and that I used to do GHB a lot and the the number
01:00:38
one rule they were like you do not mix this with alcohol that was the number one rule they're like they have you know
01:00:44
and I I drank like 10 12 you know screwdrivers and then I just took a massive dose of it
01:00:53
oh but you lived uh you also were Last Comic Standing and my quick question is is that the kind where you lived in the
01:00:59
house I never made it I um I showcased on TV on the show but they just showed me for like a second I didn't get passed
01:01:06
on even though I was I would not really I'll I'll just say that that was some
01:01:12
[ __ ] they were just casting that show who won and then who did you say when they won they suck their dog [ __ ] I
01:01:18
don't remember anybody I Showcase with I mean it was all like we were all unknowns oh yeah they literally were
01:01:24
like oh put the um short chubby girl get that tall Indian guy like it was like it
01:01:31
was just casting yeah someone sent me an Instagram of you doing uh your bit where you end up
01:01:37
yelling bikes because they knew I was gonna interview you and I listened to it was hysterical that that that whole
01:01:43
piece is like just sad that is funny to me that um I mean everybody has like their
01:01:49
most known bit and for for sure for me um it is bikes yeah Scared Straight yeah little kids going to prison and getting
01:01:58
brow beat by every day every day of my life Scared Straight do you actually do stand
01:02:05
up in Spanish yes I was supposed to do a special in Spanish and then I I started
01:02:10
touring in Spanish where I go I because they're like do a special I was like
01:02:15
well I gotta like work it out man wow a hard hard if we're doing it in English and I do the
01:02:21
show 200 times I gotta at least do 50 you know in Spanish and I I probably did six weekends in Spanish I did you know a
01:02:32
text this weekend I did like Houston Dallas San Antonio I did uh Tempe I did San Jose
01:02:39
um and then the pandemic kind of just changed everything because that was when I was
01:02:45
like gearing up for it and then by the time that resolved itself it was like the English tour was coming back and it
01:02:51
was just it was too much to try to do both well let me ask you a question if the English language has certain rhythms
01:02:56
that comedians use you know so she blew me or whatever do you have to adjust when you're doing
01:03:03
the the The rhythms of Spanish I actually remember I went I did this uh show with uh Richard via this is a a
01:03:10
very funny comedian who's uh bilingual Mexican-American and he was like dude
01:03:15
he's like you realize you're doing exactly Tom Segura that we know in English he's
01:03:22
like you don't have to change anything you're delivering exactly as you do in
01:03:25
Spanish and he was like so you don't have to like mess with anything instead
01:03:29
she she's a hot chick she's uh Caliente or you're he but Caliente is hot right oh you're
01:03:37
talking about if I'm saying it saying it in Spanish the syllables are more and
01:03:42
does that affect the Rhythm but I'm saying the delivery you can keep your delivery authentic yeah got it because
01:03:48
you hear singers culture you learn which is like some some like they uh they like
01:03:54
innuendo and they really like uh like a wink and a nod some some cultures do um which I was like I don't want to do that
01:04:02
and they're like watch and you just see how they how much they love the double
01:04:06
meaning the Dublin and um that stuff but I just didn't make it part of my ACT I saw that like some some
01:04:13
audiences really like that but I was like I'm not gonna I'm not going to
01:04:16
embrace doing a different style so you're a brain within because I'm not
01:04:21
bilingual you have your brain and you have your bit in your head and you just adjust it and then you're just doing it
01:04:27
all in Spanish yeah you start figuring out at first your brain goes translate this exactly and that actually leads you
01:04:34
into a place where you have gaps and there's things not getting laughs okay then what you have to do is start
01:04:41
you have to slow down and just start talking and stop trying to translate exactly
01:04:46
yeah and that's when it starts to work more and then you actually start writing
01:04:51
in Spanish and that's when it goes the best is because you're not actually
01:04:55
trying to make this thing work over here that worked over there you're just creating for that okay so that makes
01:05:01
sense to me there's a it's a beautiful language I'm constantly trying to speak
01:05:04
Spanish it's very hard to people who work it was a lot of it was so much more
01:05:09
work than I imagined and I would say that the other the kind of cool thing is that I had not been that nervous to do
01:05:16
stand up in over a decade in other words I get you know in English sure I get butterflies you're you're like uh you
01:05:23
know you're about to go on stage and you might have some nerve but the way that I
01:05:28
would feel before I went on stage for these Spanish shows was like year two of stand up so that was exciting because I
01:05:37
was in a full Panic of like I might [ __ ] this up I might bomb I might not like
01:05:42
that was kind of exciting I was like man I never feel like this in English anymore did the audience the audience
01:05:48
knows you're you're doing that it it's so called your second language your
01:05:51
other language where they just did they did you get a standing ovation just for the sheer effort of it sometimes yes
01:05:57
yeah they would be and you'd see a lot of like fans of mine who are bilingual
01:06:02
like they're the children of immigrants and so they're they're fans of me in
01:06:05
English they hear I'm doing the Spanish so and they're bringing their parents ah
01:06:10
because they understand yeah that would be happening too that was kind of cool that was kind of cool that's awesome
01:06:15
well um thank you well that uh that's all I wanted that I checked off all my
01:06:20
questions yeah let me just say Dana it was an honor [Laughter] Tom thank you so much I don't know who
01:06:29
that other guy was but uh he seems oh hey I was on Tom's podcast and we had a
01:06:34
great time we did have a great time it was a blast actually I just want to show you our yesterday was uh Tom shigera a
01:06:41
funny young man I can actually do a stand up in uh in Spanish or English did you know that Ed
01:06:47
muy bueno is that weird that's weird wild stuff I was just doing that for you
01:06:53
your 14 year old self you're a 14 year old that was awesome man oh thanks Tom
01:06:58
uh were you guys uh anytime you want to Charter out here um and and uh podcast we would love to
01:07:03
have you you know oh I'll definitely come out you bought a steak one night in
01:07:08
Austin that was good I want to be in that I want to sit where Tarantino said listen
01:07:14
you have an open invite yeah that was uh I I did get chills when he he kind of challenged you on the book that would be
01:07:20
intimidating you know he's got so much energy and so much knowledge he's such a
01:07:26
funny interesting character to listen to about film man but that that shows you I
01:07:31
had him on Kimmel and you have three minutes commercial break I was the guest host and then you sit there for an hour
01:07:37
and really get into stuff so podcasting is an extraordinary for me new development in in the way of
01:07:46
being authentic and it's so much cooler and more fun than than the the band and
01:07:51
the audience which is great too it's a big rock and roll moment but it's like
01:07:55
three minutes in you got to get to a commercial and stuff this is awesome so anyway come out to Austin man I will
01:08:00
there's a Non-Stop direct if I don't fly yeah go Dana stop being like this I will
01:08:05
go out and do it if we if we can have uh dinner afterwards because I I kind of want to pick your brain about what you
01:08:11
know because I still am trying to learn this whole world analytics and stuff and
01:08:16
uh I feel like we just set a date yeah we sort of did yeah I can eat anything you know so you're you're fit now we'll
01:08:24
get your trainer your Chef maybe cooks and we just eat on the set or we can't
01:08:27
go to that meat store we went to 2018 is when you came out for that special and you you were just you lost weight and
01:08:34
you had a cool jacket you you kind of were a rock star that it switched there a little bit you know yeah and then and
01:08:40
then the special two years later I gained 20 pounds back did you really I didn't notice on on the final one on
01:08:47
ball hog I I definitely gained about 20 pounds three weeks ago I shot a new special damn relax I was just so
01:08:55
thankful that I weighed less than I've ever weighed in a special that's all you
01:08:59
don't have any jokes you're like just you're like in a mirror just like check
01:09:02
this out guy but uh I think it's kind of nice if you can have a nice family and
01:09:07
and make a lot of money and be creatively fulfilled and then also be really healthy and feel comfortable
01:09:12
walking around on the planet it's it's kind of a nice feeling so David just a little pointer all right
01:09:20
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