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Dave Vel who I had not met before so it was fun to spend some time talking to
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him I think he's a brilliant comic I think his latest special Hot Cross Buns
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is something I'd highly recommend he's he's a incredible joke writer and um you
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know just getting to know how self deprecating he is about himself and how humble he is about himself we tried to
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kind of prop him up a little bit yeah he's he's super smart and funny David
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yeah we give him actual Awards he's won and things he's done and he doesn't disregards them but yeah I've always
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heard positive about AEL we overlapped a little bit on sent live because uh he was a writer he came in to write I think
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around Sarah San year and J Moore he said uh but got into that grind he's a
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comedian guy he he's always been someone that really loves that more than being a
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performer as far as sitcoms or whatever that wasn't his lofty goal loved old Comics like Mitch Hedberg Bill Hicks so
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U he talks about that he talks about how long a special would be uh how to name a special we got into a lot of lot of
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interesting things and very very nice guy yes he's uh as far as standups and
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if you talk to standups they'll always mention AEL uh because Dave Chappelle two days
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but they always mention atel is one of the greats and I think he truly is um he's so
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unassuming about it uh and vulnerable actually but yeah Comedy Central kind of
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was a big part of his career that's very interesting and his time on SNL and the way he thinks going forward in his
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career so I would just keep driving if you're driving or if you're shopping or if you're gardening just keep doing what
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you're doing and press play yeah I'd say if you're in the supermarket listening in your earphones pull the card over in
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the produce section and just listen don't get unfocused by cantaloupes or anything just yeah if you're squeezing
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some french bread going is this stale right at that moment press press play
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squeezing French bre going I just broke my finger this one's too hard when did this get into the
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store okay here he is a [Music]
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tell hey can you hear me even worse I can see you at least recognize my
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presence guys hello fellas thanks for having me you know Dana I just saw mral we'll
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talk about a special in a minute but I just saw him at kill Tony you know he's
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the wrong guy to do it with he's too funny I they should have thrown me some sucker you know yeah what happened there
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because people told me that you just didn't talk who me what what was with Spade it
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killed Tony that's what I got from my people not even a welcome to the show Just Jump
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Right In oh for you there there's no welcome here we get right to the gossip
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kind of like it's it's like it's always going like Eternal I get it well we do like we'll do a 20 minute interview
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where we'll just talk and oh yeah we we we do an intro after you leave so it's
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like coming up it's like our guest coming up so yeah I get it as we used to call it as first I get it how do you not
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have a podcast or you don't want I don't have a podcast that's why I'm excited you guys look a little jaded but it was
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fun doing kill Tony with Dave I've always been a fan of Dave and uh to say
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the to say uh I'm just gonna say it I think he classed up the show you know
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yeah he put a fresh paint on it I thought it was really great that he was a part of it yeah we definitely had fun
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I had fun with it it was uh the the the hard part for me was first of all if I didn't talk a lot that's not really my
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thing is to rip into people and tell them Crush their dreams they're here to do one minute of standup it's kind of
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it's a definitely funny process kill Tony Brian his buddy get out there there's a band behind him if you don't
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know and then the most of Austin comes up to uh try to get on stage it's
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literally most of the town and they all have a minute to do their [ __ ] and then
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we and then Tony interviews them and then we chirp in with our [ __ ] but
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uh they know what they're doing it's very smooth running operation and uh let me ask you guys because I've only seen it once and there was this Robin
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Williams young guy who was actually kind of great oh this is cool what is the the
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core reason it's so successful besides the reality show aspect because I saw
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one where two guys went at each other like really trying to dominate each
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other two Comedians and it was like sort of a Turf War so is that part of the
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magic of it it's fun to see people truly angry and kind of humiliating sometimes and also get laughs it's a train wreck
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and I think everybody loves to watch a you know um uh I think everybody loves
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to watch the drama of it and uh I think Dave is right I mean like it is the
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biggest thing I mean like you can't even like you know uh God help you if you need an operation that night because I
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don't think you're gonna be able to get one I mean everybody's there the ambulance drivers are all there trying to get on everybody it's like the town
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shuts down like I see it's kill Tony night that's what we do yeah so what happened is I sat there and
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atel is uh perfect for the situation because he just can say anything funny
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about anything and kill Tony runs the show so I sit there as a Class Act and
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wait for my time to jump in I wait till I've got a little bit of a joke but I
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was happy with it I thought it was fun I wasn't super comfortable cuz I had a [ __ ] F5 tornado in front of me
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blowing a fan in my I don't know why there was a Arc why do they always put you near air conditioning I don't know
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I'm such a [ __ ] it's unbelievable does is the word not gotten out yet I'm like
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so I put on my shades honestly because it was so blowing so hard in my face so this is a new move put your shades on
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then I put my hat on then I put my coat on and atel was starting to get worried like what's next so then we watch but he
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smokes and and Tony smokes which smoking doesn't really bother me as much cuz I grew up
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my mom smoked and and every girl I knew smoked and so I don't care uh it was
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really the coldness and then uh I thought it was fun like people would do
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a minute I think that's part of the appeal Dana they do a minute and it's either [ __ ] dead silence and one guy
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said how long have you been doing comedy and he goes 13 years I go I would have taken the under on that because he
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[ __ ] I thought it was one day and I I'm like oh so you know that's that's
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the only meanness I can do to them everyone thinks I'm real mean do does everybody pad the audience it seems like
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you get your college buddies drunk and then you go do your minute right is there a lot of that going on I would
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none of these people have friends they're all L and it was emotionally cold in there it
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was really there was no love in the room and I think he was the ring Master he enjoys this kind of like pulling the
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strings and he gets into their like real lives and everything like that and I think we of a different generation where
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it's like you're supposed to be supportive to the new Comics go hey you know what it's a process you keep doing
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it you're going to get better but Tony of course tough love no none of that he goes right and uh you know I I think at
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the end of the day people get it you know like this is kind of like a you know it's kind of like reverse support
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you know in a way definitely definitely something like that yeah uh it was
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pretty fun though did you doing anything like that in San Francisco there was a standup comedy competition but you went
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through rounds at least B deal I was in it in college in 77 did you have any of that out where
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you were starting there was always these weird you know like um uh I guess it was
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always sponsored by somebody you know something like that where it's like a you know but I don't think it was anything like that scene and I always
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you know since this is really kind of our like our first real meeting is that I always wanted to ask you about like
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that San Francisco back in the day because you know I knew slate and I knew um a lot of the big names that came out
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of San Francisco and like how important it was to like comedy and especially standup and then it kind of like you
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know by the time I got there you know it was already like I guess it wasn't as um
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as wild as it was back then but really like you know I always heard all the stories about Robin coming down and even
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to um you know uh the punchline the original punch line and then cobs you know that's really the scene I knew but
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you knew like the Purple Onion what was the onion Place o onion a little tiny
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room what was it called though the purple onion or something yeah the Purple Onion yeah okay cool yeah I never
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played there and Cobbs moved did you ever play Cobbs before it moved yes they did there was a fire a mysterious fire
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and they move yeah right uh that was Larry Bubbles Brown I think was the arson on that one another unsung hero of
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Comedy Larry bubbles who every time I play cops I make sure he's on the show cuz I love him he's great he's one of my
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best friends he's he's an amazing human and extraordinarily funny but such a he
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he makes comedians funnier because he legitimately will if you say something
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he thinks is funny he'll laugh at it and then repeat it and keep laughing and it's really sincere because we used to
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have this running gig we would show up you know you drive to the gig and it's like a little theater and the guy goes
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hey are you with the show it's like we are the [ __ ] show [ __ ] and I said you jack him up against the wall
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say listen squirt so to Larry Bubbles Brown listen squirt was the funniest
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thing and he kept squirt and it went go for 10 years but yeah it was uh Slayton
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was amazing really hard to follow uh Michael Pritchard Robin was always
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around blowing the roof off you're about to go on at the little club and Robin's going to do a set it' be like three
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hours yeah it was quite a quite a scene I don't know if Boston was sort of a we had Bob Coast version Bobcat came
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through and then Paula Poundstone from Boston and they blew up in San Francisco
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yeah yeah San Francisco was definitely the place where people I think figured it out and uh uh credit to you Dana I
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think you're one of the few guys that Larry bubbles will get on a plane for the guy hates to fly I mean look at him
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he kind of looks like a a dust bowl guy you know like back of a back of a dooy
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you know with his like piano or something tied up there he's not a flyer so he's like somebody it took one day to
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know him in 20 years to believe it but I'm not a great flyer but I've never walked a flight you know there's times
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it's been thunderstorms and all that I don't enjoy it but so I'm meeting Larry
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San Francisco SFO and he's there and you're we're about to board and Larry goes I think I
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I think I got to walk the flight so immediately I was like that's okay we'll do it next time I wasn't going to [ __ ]
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on we'll do it next time you just you know it doesn't matter we're playing Vegas and then I said well you know
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maybe you if you wanted he doesn't drink at all drinks Diet Coke but he had I
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guess one drink and he got on the plane and then he's like you know he never he's not
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does I don't know he ever drank after that he like this is great this is the way you do it you know so that helped
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him for that flight but Larry makes up for it with his incredible knowledge of everyone's birthday he can tell you the
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day of your birthday which is like that looks good on the resume ability I don't
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know if that impresses the ladies but hey what's your birthday and then I'll say that was a Wednesday or he'll
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know and his classic liner went to the doctor and I said what's that lump on my testicle he said that is your testicle
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you idiot or something like that dick and then he does no but you can say to
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him Tuesday 1968 oh yeah no March 31st
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1968 is a Tuesday and was like what and you look it up yeah he's great he is a
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one of a kind so I I'm just curious I don't know I um I'm always curious when
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did you know when when did let's put it this way when did people not want to
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follow you yeah let's let's just put it that way when like I don't want any part
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that [ __ ] middle act you know when was it like you you have to
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close how many years be hon like the New York scene it was very um you know back
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in the 90s I guess you know it was really um there was a lot of really hardcoree acts here at that point but I
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wouldn't put it against Boston because I think Boston was definitely like another level of like wow these guys can blow
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blow it you know blow it out but I I was a late night comic that's where they put
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me and I kind of like embraced it instead of like going like you know I'm going to move up or anything like that I
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felt like at the end of the show like it was harder but it was also Freer at to some degree where like you know if you
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get out of them it was really like um it was really it was kind of like the pond had already been fished out but whatever
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you thought was like a huge whale you know so I was like this is really good for me but that was really them like
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putting me there you know and then I kind of like got better at it and better at it and then when I move up in the
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show and it really has helped me on the road too which is like you know following people and all that kind of stuff I I I felt like I was Stronger I
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was a stronger act and you know usually that means just more bad habits you know like you know I knew what to do and how
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to how to work the crowd and everything but in terms of like um you know I would say sometime in the 90s you know when I
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became a headliner I I actually really you know since this is an SNL kind of
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thing here um I'm kind of like what you would you would call the um the uh you know the guy who uh didn't really you
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know I know SNL's an experience it's different for everybody but for me it was kind of like something I did when I
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really wanted to do standup and like uh you know agents and managers said this would be great and like you know I
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auditioned and moreen liked me and I was a writer I wasn't a performer and you know I really wanted to learn how to do it but I didn't really have that mindset
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yet I really wanted to be a standup you know I wanted to be Bill Hicks or Sam Kennison but that's where I met Dave
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yeah who was really kind to me the whole way through and I was also a fan of his before I had uh you know been important
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I really liked to stand up great I like the way he did things and uh you know to be honest I was like you know it it it
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taught me more about Show Business than if it did about comedy because I saw how things work there in terms of like you
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know there's a host and then if you get something on you get to sit closer to Lauren at the party and then you know
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there like this kind of like levels and Circles of like there but I got to meet Mike Myers and
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you know the lake r Phil Hartman and you know Sandler who uh always another guy very cool to me you know I got to meet a
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lot of people who I you know gone on to great success and I was glad to like know them but it was never my thing but
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I think for you guys that's really like where you know like things gel like where you got to take all the stuff that
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you would learn you know like uh and put it in an ensemble you know I guess
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format which you know I'm I'm impressed by that to this day I really am impressed how people can take stuff and
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turn it into something a sketch or a movie or something like that so A CL comic you know in a reverse way that it
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like I was uh my standup was pretty goofy it is now when I I look at jok
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Smiths or brilliant writing and people who can really take a topic like you do in this latest special Hot Cross Buns um
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it's like a magic trick to me like okay there's the introduction and then you're turning it and it's like oh wow that's
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the best turn that's the best payoff to that setup and you're doing it over and over again and
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for me I was up there doing chop and broccoli and voices I'm I'm just doing trying to do sketches in in clubs with
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hecklers and blenders so when I finally got to do sketch it was okay that fit me but um you and um that Dave David are
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just great great writers of of material just real material well I can't tell you
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how many how many especially uh girls I know who would always bring up that chopping up the broccoli think to me
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they like got a joke like that I'm like I don't got anything I agree I think it's ridiculous can do that got a joke
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no one's got to joke like that you really you really like hit a nerve with these women they love that bit so you
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know don't throw it out well it's uh since there is no joke other than a guy
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who's horrible and is utterly uh committed to how bad he is but um that's
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on Dana's album called you're being humbled now because you you know you are kind of in the um I guess you could say
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the Mount Olympus of Comedy I mean like you know people didn't really too busy being successful to
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actually like do the kind of road that we do now you know like road is like a really uh it's never been better for
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everybody I mean like look amphitheaters and these things I mean it used to be like in the 70s 80s like you saw you
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know like Martin or dice or somebody like that doing that but not everybody could do it now there's like at least 20
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30 people who are selling out these Mega you know venues so you know that's not
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my thing but I think it's really good for comedy you know a big deal I love where you shot the special and the way
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it felt at Cobbs the way it was lit and the tightness of the audience and stuff I thought it really popped specials can
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sometimes lay there I've been in a few myself and they don't quite happen I I think you were kind of saying you guys
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are really great tonight I don't know if you were just celebrating the moment but it seemed like that taping of you and
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doing that set was a 10 from what I could gather which is a rarity really
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connected but or was it just did you feel extra good because they don't always go that well right the taping
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yeah no that's true because uh you know the first year we had a lot of technical problems and the director of the of the
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special uh Scott G Galler he he's a really good friend of mine he's done my road work one and like I met him doing
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the you know he was director of the porn Awards the AVN Awards you know so I've known him for decades now and like the
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one thing that you can't ever pay someone to do is be passionate this guy's so passionate like we do we edited
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for so long like we were just trying to put all of these different things that I had done together in like a cohesive
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thing and the crowd of course was better than me my crowd's really good I'm not just saying that every comic I bring on
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the road they're like wow your Co your crowd gets it they are really good they're older they're like couples who
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are like you know basically like this is our night out offici Autos they like they know what they like young judge
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mental group that you see kind of today now like dripping into these clubs and they really kind of like understand
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sarcasm and like it's a joke and it's not like AE I'm not preaching or anything like that so they're up for
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anything and the crowd that you saw there tonight especially the second crowd was it blew me away because I'm in
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my head like we all know for specials like I gotta do this and then this and I don't want to mess it up like I did on
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the first show meanwhile I should have just rolled with them the whole way through it would have been a whole different special but still like you're
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right the energy was like I was very lucky that night you know I was really lucky I did like that little I don't I
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don't remember if I've seen it before but there was a camera on the side of the stage you don't see and then you would kind of look to it like you were
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like it was a friend or something a person you know and I thought that was kind of nice this nose I mean look at it
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I really really didn't capture my best side there but yeah no I love that I I I
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I'm used to like you know the C whatever it is I'm trying to work it into the show I think we all agree like those are
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the most memorable moments like Dave's really good at that to like I've seen him like you know something happens in
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the room where there's somebody in the room and he'll like you know like be able to like like tailor a joke to them
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or like use it as part of a riff or something like that I love that stuff I think that's what makes standup better than you know pretty much juggling I
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mean you never see that in juggling you know you know Dana what I do that's interesting let's talk about and what is
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the name of D Hot Cross Buns is a good name because you don't here's Dana's name is uh blunder and hecklers that's a
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good name actually hecklers and blenders like that's what you're thinking for your name of your special that's I'm
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thinking for the next Dana one mine oh okay all right hecklers and blenders
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because you said when I was doing it I was just doing allers starting out yeah
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blenders and hecklers is better yeah I like that the other thing that I loved about I'll just say it the 35 minute
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thing or 37 minutes it's like I think that we've adapted to sending people
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stuff and just this short attention span thing it felt like the perfect length to me I'm not just saying it's like that
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was just great right I don't because then there's no low everyone knows if you do an hour you can only kind of go
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to 40 and then they're too tired or whatever and you got to fight through the trench and then you got to peek
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again um so 35 is just like Bam Bam Bam you know playing the recorder boom and
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it was like ah so you have to fight for that I mean yeah no I mean like I I
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think the cool thing about Netflix is that they'll let it be any length at this point like the idea like you said
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is like it's all about attention span but it has to be 40 minutes and I told this David that it has to be 40 minutes
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to get their algorithm to get into like their different kind of like I guess plac so 40 minutes is what it had to be
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we had it at 30 five and a half or something and then they told this is the week of and once again Scott my director
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said whoa we're going to do it so we put more stuff in and uh actually the last thing we put in which is me playing the
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recorder yeah seals which we thought was the throwaway became the talk of the special so like how often does that
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happen like it's was like wow you know like whatever I I really locked out on that one but yeah I would say 40 minute
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for me personally as a viewer and fan of Comedy like I just watched you know I've watched a lot of my friend specials like
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I just watched Jimmy Car special really really cool very funny guy awesome like with the line I mean
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guy his the classic hour and like it works for him you know it's a it's a great show for me my jokes are so small
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like three a minute like that's us what it is two to three a minute it's like I'm I'm like on fumes by like 30 I'm
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really like oh okay you know I'd rather go shorter too I think Theo's was a little was maybe 4550 I I envy that I
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would say the same thing you don't need it because also then it's GNA go out then it's G to get chopped up and then
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everyone wants to see different bits and no one remembers the whole hour no one remembers they they there's a handful
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they repeat you don't know which ones and then an hour is so long and I'm sure
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the algorithm says people last about 20 you feel like you want to front load your best [ __ ] now because not
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everyone's waiting for that big closer I think 16 is average last time I checked oh oh W is that best compliment I got
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and I'm not really a web guy but we had to track it for the whole special is uh one guy said I watched it to the end and
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I'm going to watch it again usually people watch 15 minutes and they immedi start judging like hey this sucked or
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whatever gu trying to do you know but like all way to the end that's a rarity you
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know okay I got another name for your special Dana algo
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Nation I was gonna call it the other Oppenheimer no
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I'm gonna call yours white sweater Man David this isn't a sweater but it's nice it's it's a golf pullover but I'm
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appreciate it it was gonna come off earlier and we had June Gloom uh in
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April but it's all gloomy and then it's supposed to burn off sorry if I lose you with this uh weather lingo Dave but uh
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it burns off because in in La we have may Gray stay close then we havee June
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Gloom yes then you don't know is July fry and what Dana doesn't know is
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fogust fog covers everything yeah in Southern California maybe maybe at the
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beach I think it just Rhymes okay give me September I'm not there yet September rain no yeah I thought this was that
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Simon and Garfunkle tune but you know every podcast can handle the weather usually people are like you know they're
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going to watch it later you guys I like how you dig in you really believe they're going to watch this
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weather the main thing about podcasting what you both know is that everyone uh
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it's consuming this entertainment right now is doing something else actively they are gardening they are walking
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somewhere they're at the gym so it's low and they're driving predominantly they're driving so they're not even they
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space out but they they they say they want to hear us legitimately talking so part of
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it being not always funny and just being real or kind of boring is actually good
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Dave do you remember so was Sarah Silverman at your SNL when you were
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there yeah it was me Sarah and H J Moore were the new people then there was a
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couple other ones too I don't I didn't I really I should have learned all the cast but no
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um and um at a Norm's Memorial who you were very funny and let's face Kevin
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nean Crush that he was guy is like gifted he's such a gifted guy he's brilliant but someone has to do a bit
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about comedians going to funerals and it no one talks about the guy it's always about who crushed but NE it's always who
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who got like no matter how sad you are did he kill did he kill but nean always kills in that kind of he's got that his
00:26:46
style great comic too he's another guy I was a fan of before I met him and the um the Whatchamacallit uh at Norm's funeral
00:26:54
who Norm was the uh the new guy that year too you know and he went on to great success there and he he um you
00:27:02
know was really cool to me like I you know brought him out to the clubs when you know before he got so busy and everything but for me uh Jay and I we
00:27:09
shared a room you know we shared uh an office then and like we were both kind
00:27:15
of like you know for Jay especially like who I thought had all the skill set like he could do characters he could do
00:27:20
voices all that kind of stuff he's a good-looking guy you know he's goodlooking guy and everything like that very funny you know I saw the you know
00:27:25
like how hard it is the new guy there for me kind of already accepted my fate but for him like I was like you know
00:27:31
yeah I can't you know like fure on something you know but I guess Farley was like another one that like I got to
00:27:38
you know meet him the late R and like uh no one ever like him you know like uh to this day never met anybody that kind of
00:27:45
comedic power you know do you know what I'm saying like that that like inner like like a battery like I just inner
00:27:50
like just like constantly funny so um you know there was definitely a lot of
00:27:55
great experiences and the most of the names we just talked about went on to great success you know Sarah and of
00:28:01
course Norm you know still one of the best Comics I think his comedy's underrated you know and uh Jim Don who I
00:28:08
was talking to at the thing another guy like amazing guy we were talking about like just how like you know just Norm
00:28:13
like the master of timing you know I mean like his comedy was that good so well as far
00:28:18
as as far as his peers there's no way he's underrated I don't know if the
00:28:24
public at large but yeah that's what I mean like yeah we you know we all know oh like yeah the norm was also a
00:28:30
singularity like Farley got rest her soul but Norm's timing it was so unique
00:28:37
the way he would jump yeah the problem with OJ is like he kills people you know
00:28:43
I don't know it's just kind of you know besides the killing part he's a great guy anyway Norman's also just well Dave
00:28:50
at the funeral which uh whatever it was it was a funeral Memorial whatever but
00:28:56
you know with all these standups there people will speak in quotes and it's really going to be a mixture of sad and
00:29:04
there's no way no one's not doing jokes even though it's horrible the hard part for me was going up and you're getting a
00:29:11
little Misty and here comes a dolly shot I was like are we filming this you know what I mean you're rarely speaking from
00:29:18
your heart and they're like can we go again wow so it was remember that it was
00:29:23
filmed and then we stayed after and and Conan was great on that too Conan was
00:29:28
always oh yeah Conan was [ __ ] funny I I fell on the way to the stage and then I told the guy on the side I go hey this
00:29:37
step right here is higher than the other steps and I wipe out he goes he's a crew
00:29:43
guy goes oh yeah it's always been like that and everybody [ __ ] Falls I go well maybe look into that I don't know
00:29:51
you know you're going to get sued every single day of your life so I fell of course and then afterwards is that when
00:29:57
we stayed after and then we can I stop you for a second I homage to Dick Van
00:30:02
djk that's what I saw I saw a guy do a classic van djk yes you saw it right
00:30:08
classic ACL tear I knows what I'm talking about I do because I separated
00:30:15
this shoulder doing the Dick Van djk stunt uh at SNL playing Dan
00:30:21
quail in a in on on Friday to pre-tape on little tiny carpet with no stunt
00:30:27
quarter it great three separated shoulder still still hurts any still hurts continue let's get into what's the
00:30:33
healthcare like I never stayed long enough to get on their program is it good oh it's good oh it's good so do
00:30:40
Lauren goes you're fine so you're okay you're a standup coming up and stuff and then uh from what I read you got on
00:30:46
Letterman first and then yes they showed at the Lauren or Lauren saw so what was
00:30:52
Letterman like to go live with Jay and Sarah at a club I think we standing in New York and then everybody became a
00:30:58
performer and I became a writer and back then it was like if you're ugly you're a writer so I like okay I'm ugly and then
00:31:05
they threw me into the into the writer thing and I'm up against these horbor guys and I was like these guys really
00:31:11
like they're almost like um almost like I guess billop you know like really
00:31:17
they're really good at it and like Dave Mandel and there was a couple other guys who were like just like wow it kind of blew you away how young and good they
00:31:24
were at this and uh you know to be honest like when you used to writing for your own voice and then you write
00:31:30
something for somebody else and it's good giving that up man it's really tough It's hard couple times where I'm
00:31:36
like I got nothing but I'm gonna use it for my you know that kind of thing oh
00:31:43
job you know did you did you that they did you get on update at all like oh you
00:31:48
did didn't you you didn't get it I don't think I was I don't think it was as Loose as it is now where like if you
00:31:54
feel like you got something good you could try it but you know I I really like uh to be honest like my writing experience
00:32:00
there was what it was and um uh the guys who really like I kind of think got me
00:32:07
were like John Stewart I wrote on both of his shows uh before The Daily Show and I was a character on The Daily Show
00:32:12
so to this day I'd say John was really the guy who got me and it was great being a part of that show but you know
00:32:18
at the end of the day I think um you know you guys probably know it EVs and flows over there it's kind of like a
00:32:24
it's kind of like a like a like a like an animal it has to keep moving moving you know and uh the people that are
00:32:30
parts of it like they have years that are stronger than others but you know the two people the other two people on
00:32:35
this podcast they definitely made this this uh thing that kids grew up watching
00:32:40
and they uh all want to be a part of it I mean like to this day like there's kids out there right now that's their
00:32:45
goal and U you know I know this is something you say at the end of the podcast and we're probably not there yet
00:32:50
but I was like it's over like
00:32:55
it go ahead to to to like to finish the thought it
00:33:01
was just like you know um uh there was a there was a point there where I was really depressed and I was like you know
00:33:08
um I guess it's it's it's not for me but like uh Bill Hicks died I think that was
00:33:14
like a big deal like he died and I was kind of the only guy there who seemed to be really upset about it and I was like
00:33:21
what I mean this guy Bill and like nobody really kind of got it you know and I was like well I'm not really like
00:33:28
connected like I'm not connected to them like I am to like the comedy world so I kind of knew that I was like that's what
00:33:34
it is so uh just a little insert there so I don't know did you ever play spellbinders I think it was in Houston
00:33:41
anyway probably yeah anyway I just went down there a couple times early 80s way
00:33:46
before SNL and and then my opener was Bill Hicks like wow he was really young
00:33:53
and he had a big sport coat he come out and he obviously was great immediately was like damn this is my opener but like
00:34:00
10 minutes in he would take a beer out of his jacket he would put a cold beer it's like I go it's a long way to go um
00:34:08
the whole time we our game was I go I'm gonna do the dice and the cockpit joke so I just as my opener he he loved that
00:34:15
I was trying to intentionally alienate the audience I came here on Mexicana Airlines and the the pilot had dice in
00:34:21
the cockpit ah you know but uh did you know Bill or work with him met him twice
00:34:27
three times times and like he gave me a great compliment one time he gave me a tag on a joke and I was like smiling for
00:34:32
like two days after that but uh I didn't know him probably the way you did but I will say one thing is that like you know
00:34:38
a lot of people consider him like the grandfather of alt comedy or woke comedy but the fact your story says it right
00:34:45
there he was playing a club a dive club in Houston yeah and like the guy could
00:34:50
hold his own against anyone he played through the South he played through everywhere anywhere you can go and he
00:34:55
did this all like when he was like 17 18 19 20 years old and then he was like you know what there's more to this and that
00:35:01
opened his world and like uh you know he he became a deep thinker and he's always
00:35:07
was like a well- read dude and so like talented I mean like I remember one time we were at the original improv in New
00:35:12
York and he was hanging out with some of us afterwards and he's like hey is that a guitar and he immediately picked it up and it was like Stevie R vaugh came in
00:35:19
the room like was that good you know but like the guy was always like searching and like trying to push it and like when
00:35:25
you see him on Letterman I think you're not really getting the whole like feel of Bill Hicks I mean you got to see him live and you know to this day his last
00:35:33
play at Carolines I didn't go that night I really wish I did but that was right before he basically said I'm too sick to
00:35:38
perform and I'm going back home and I'm gonna have to do that and you know that was kind of the end of it so I kind of I
00:35:45
missed out on like a you know something that would never ever happen you know like it was like whatever it was it was
00:35:50
dumb of me not to go that night so anyway but how cool was it was when he was open for you like well wasn't Bill
00:35:58
heck Bill Hicks then you know yeah he was just uh did he change his
00:36:05
name I don't know did you Dana could you tell he had something there yes and I
00:36:10
liked him immediately I I could tell he was incredibly bright and uh but we were
00:36:16
just playing this little goofy club and and um he had something right right
00:36:22
right off the bat and then I saw one I guess he had a special or something I saw him a few years later and yeah he
00:36:27
took it to this whole other idea uh Mort Saul meets uh Sam kis I don't know he he
00:36:34
went very stepped outside the lines of of a standup but remained really funny
00:36:40
which is sort of the hattick you know when you were when you were doing comedy like in the um in the 80s especially how
00:36:47
much influence was like the show Seinfeld on you because it seems like everybody was like you do this till you
00:36:53
get the sitcom and then you never have to again right I'm sure that came out you guys that way the whole time I I was
00:36:58
in that like chasing the sitcom dream at The Improv where Tim Allen got picked up
00:37:04
and then Roseanne and it was both of those were huge shows Home Improvement and they're basically looking they were
00:37:10
in the audience a lot because it wasn't about killing which I didn't get it was just what Persona can we write a show
00:37:17
around and I didn't get that at all I was sweaty trying to [ __ ] get laughs but no you were always I always thought
00:37:23
you were so uh I just always like started I I really Doug what you were doing all right I remember at the 10
00:37:29
pmov I think you one night I walked in at the end Dan Mur who we both know like
00:37:35
he's like hey he's playing over there you want to come I'm like yeah I want to check it out and we watched him from the balcony and it was just like so funny
00:37:41
just the way you were you know like you you basically had him so you know you kind playing with him a bit so I love
00:37:47
that David doesn't and I've been guilty of this many times of pushing and David
00:37:52
never seems to push and so it's very calm to watch just his brain working you
00:37:57
know it's not like he's dancing for his dollar his money I get I get the
00:38:03
complaints I get sometimes in the road are like it didn't look like you were even trying I'm like this all [ __ ]
00:38:08
the whole idea like it's all thought out and you just go you're just like and I go I still talked for a straight [ __ ]
00:38:14
hour like it's hard to do like have a setup punch have this all weave into each other but if it looks casual that's
00:38:21
a good idea you don't need y you know also I was gonna tell you I didn't um
00:38:28
uh Bill Hicks and Mitch Hedberg I didn't really appreciate or get to know after
00:38:34
or get to know their work until it was too late so I was never really I remember they he said Bill Hicks might have been on Conan when I was at SNL I
00:38:41
don't even know if I knew who he was I just heard that and said oh that guy I'd heard of a little bit but later on and
00:38:49
even now you see on Tik Tock or Instagram you can see clips and that's kind of nice because there's so many
00:38:54
things I just didn't know uh especially Mitch Hedberg I see on there a lot but these guys are great guys that just
00:39:01
floated around and then it just too early well Mitch especially I mean this
00:39:06
is like uh something I do know is that people always say all these young Comics they sound like you like me that's
00:39:11
that's what they're saying and I go if you want to know the one guy who's been jacked the most it's Mitch Ed so many
00:39:18
generations of comics who now like have like grown up I guess watching him unless just his voice his Cadence and
00:39:25
his style like I mean I've seen it million different ways and I used to like in the beginning be really angry
00:39:30
like that's Hedberg you're doing Hedberg up there you know that's what the guy's doing and that now I get it it's just
00:39:36
like they don't really get that it's Hedberg anymore they just like know that it's funny I think you know I I don't
00:39:42
know I'm trying to be generous to them but I mean that's really one of those things where it's like Hedberg had a big
00:39:47
impact on um on the generation of Comedy you know you know I'm just putting this together a little bit theovon and
00:39:54
Hedberg just not not that he's ripping them off but both have a quirky that well Mitch did have this quirky timing
00:40:01
and I don't know was he from the south or any kind of acent but he just had a really weird way of speaking and he was
00:40:07
from Min um Wisconsin I guess Minneapolis and uh he moved South and um
00:40:14
his joke was like he was driving and he had something wrong with the front end alignment and he ended up there like he
00:40:19
was trying to get to Texas and the car kept veering left pulling to the right oh I see something like that so that's
00:40:26
how he got there and like he worked in kitchens he was just basically kind of like a kind of like a stoner kitchen guy
00:40:32
and that's where he started doing comedy but he definitely had that kind of like Southern like you know that kind of
00:40:37
charm and Theo also is like you know because I always feel of him as like tun
00:40:43
you know like he has that cool like there's just something there yeah it's
00:40:51
cool by the way I just want to you you know that you're kind of a touchstone for standup right like a tell it's
00:40:58
concept for me coming back from SNL and playing some clubs or playing with Larry other people uh it you're constantly
00:41:05
mentioned and referred to I you you know that right I I just want to I because I always assume that everybody it's hard
00:41:12
to know how people perceive you but I'm just saying anecdotally just oh yeah but it tell was
00:41:17
there and it tell it just I don't know it it's just I I hope it's nice to hear it's a good rep to have out there uh be
00:41:25
less excited about my success no it just kind of angers me quietly but I just I thought this wasn't going to be
00:41:32
all about you and it's sort of turning that way I mean we can talk about the weather again I mean oh my god did
00:41:39
there's some monsoonal moisture I didn't mention earlier David's a great great standup now back to U the goat listen um
00:41:47
I up I was also of that generation of like a lot of them passed too quickly Hedberg Geraldo Greg Geraldo who's
00:41:54
another great line guy um patri so I was of that kind of group you know like of
00:41:59
that of that um the uh you know that that time in comedy but I would say that
00:42:05
um the reason why people talk about me is because I'm out there you know like I really you know have been doing the club so long now I mean honestly I don't even
00:42:12
know like what the exit strategy anymore it's like I don't think you have to have it
00:42:17
Dan enough's a good Biz to be to your point you'll see someone and we're going
00:42:22
to talk about in somniac in a second but you'll see someone at different times throughout their so then the latest
00:42:28
thing I don't pay attention to everyone all the time was this special and I go oh maybe that's his best special or
00:42:35
certainly haven't lost the step or anything so you why would you ever stop you know I mean I don't think there's
00:42:40
been any slippage I don't know do you do you ever feel I mean this is like a good crew to
00:42:46
ask is like when I was first starting out I felt like my my writing and my
00:42:52
performing were low and then like as I would keep going like the writing would get better but the perform per still
00:42:57
sucked then the performing for a year was better than the writing and then it became this and so now I feel like they're both kind of equal like I kind
00:43:04
of know what I'm doing and I can write a joke and you know I'm able to like turn whatever I want into a joke eventually I
00:43:10
mean like we all know we fight that battle every day but you know I'm like this is a good spot to be in I'm glad
00:43:15
like you know I'm able to do it and the crowd's still getting it but like am I relevant am I any of the things that are
00:43:21
important in today's comedy world no so I'm also going like you know hey I'm not
00:43:26
doing it for everybody I'm doing it for my crowd and I'm doing it for you know what I want to do but at the end of the
00:43:32
day you got to entertain right so like what point are you just kind of like here comes that old hack you know like
00:43:39
no you seem like all what is relevant today like is it the topics the style I
00:43:44
mean seem like I don't know you tell me I mean I don't know it seems like your your topics were all of today well that
00:43:52
was also a post-pandemic special which the one the two things that Netflix asked me and I asked questions because I
00:43:57
go is name of special important that's why like it was funny that you guys were bringing up these names and they like
00:44:03
because I don't want to call it hot crust buns I wanted to call it you know I want to call something else and they
00:44:08
said no that's not that good and then um they said don't don't what I go what
00:44:14
turns people off you have all this data now and they said Co jokes and political jokes people don't want to hear any of
00:44:20
that so I'm like I'm I'm I'm set I don't have any of that stuff and then I realized I got like a CO joke political
00:44:27
joke in the first five minutes even though they're well hidden jokes well I like your little turn on little
00:44:33
political thing and you go I'm I'm a I'm a Biden guy hunter hunter Biden you know the way youum one of my rep's favorite
00:44:40
jokes he's always telling me about yeah no that's a good one you know but then it was like that's a political joke what
00:44:47
do we do blah blah blah oh shut it down we kept it in yeah so you know algo
00:44:52
killer algo killer yeah so you know but relevant in terms of like you know am I
00:44:58
going to preach to the people I was never that guy I was really kind of a you know a line guy a joke guy I'm like
00:45:05
it's all about the jokes for me well da I think the same thing where it's like even though you think it's a throwaway
00:45:11
joke some people like give it a life all its own and you're like taking it too far it's not that you
00:45:17
know well Dana you know he was just saying a good point when we started it was like sitcom and all that there's a
00:45:24
point Nate bergotti Theo right now where you can start as a standup and it's
00:45:30
actually less money to go into movies and TV so oh yeah they're making so much or they're just on the road that you
00:45:35
don't have to do anything other than be a standup and and and you just keep working and Dave's been doing it a while
00:45:42
and he keeps making money and if it keeps working and he's got a crowd he's got a good rep and that works I mean
00:45:47
it's hard to keep it going for a while but these guys do great so you you could
00:45:53
say I don't want to stop and do a sitcom it's I'm going to lose money I'm going to that's so weird cuz it's less of that
00:45:59
in the world and less comedy movies out there in the world and more standup gets
00:46:04
bigger and big amazing both Nate batti and Bert Chrysler kind of intimated to
00:46:09
us that they felt like we were really in show business because they hadn't had a movie or a TV show we're like wait a
00:46:16
minute you're you're the master of your own fate and you're making more than a sitcom star um well you picked up two
00:46:24
great names because Nate and Bert both ends in in the Spectrum super funny guys and both of them went through that
00:46:30
process of developing all that kind of stuff at the end of the day they're doing exactly what they should do their crowd loves it and also really good
00:46:37
dudes they're great to the other Comics they right so they're doing everything right but they also went through that
00:46:43
endless loop of um development and I think it would be great like cleansing if like everybody B um all the pitches
00:46:50
that were ever pitch to you like you could like basically whisper it on a rose and drop it in a well like you know
00:46:56
and a father taking care of six refug and I run a laundr and just throw that
00:47:03
you know like in the well like that's done that'll never be used again you know yeah so ask ask about this because
00:47:10
I'm gonna ask about something else I got ahead mine is about your porn show oh the porn show Dave old porn and did
00:47:19
you who were those favorite favorite porn stars but go ahead say something first those were the 70s um iconic age
00:47:25
of porn you know like and um you know I knew them from the Aven award like I had like started doing it then with um you
00:47:32
know and we we basically wanted the tribute to them because we got like I'm like the only idiot who bought the
00:47:38
rights to to use these films because everybody would be like why would you buy these rights they're all like the mafia or something like that so they
00:47:45
both the rights to these legendary films and they're very dramatic and they're like acting and there's like car chases
00:47:50
and all these weird things that you would never see on only fans right now so these guys and ladies they kind of
00:47:56
buil buil you know the Renaissance of porn you know what I'm saying so it was fun to have them watch their things and
00:48:02
then we bring out the younger the adult stars and they would also weigh in on it and then there were Comics that went on
00:48:07
like Rogan Bill Burr um so many great names that were on this thing Amy Schumer you know like just like all the
00:48:13
people I knew and like having them like kind of throw throw like just like looking at it Maring all these different
00:48:19
people and you would have been great attitude you porn guy I don't think you're a porn guy you f you be able to
00:48:26
like to just watch stuff and comment on it that's funny well there you go VH1 style yeah we could do Tracy
00:48:34
Lords Lords of course yes I mean there was so many so many names and uh that
00:48:40
was for showtime and uh I guess this was before um you know uh uh what was their
00:48:45
big show over there yeah no it was uh no I'm trying to think I'm not put it
00:48:51
was the uh Christy Canyon had a sitcom over there for well what happened was it's like me and uh my other guy who's a
00:48:59
great guy Jeremy uh he's the editor and he was also the director of that we we like threw everything we had into it
00:49:05
because we believed in it you know we covered all the dirty stuff with like interesting graphics and like uh at the
00:49:10
end of the day I lost money doing a TV show it was like one of those like too big to fail like it was just like I
00:49:17
don't know I was just start of a TV show I'm 100 Grand in the hole how did that happened you know I got the rights to
00:49:23
seek as catalog it was like one of those things so I'm just curious about
00:49:28
insomnia because um that I made money on but I lost kidney so there you Goot
00:49:35
drinking you lost a kidney no no it was a lot of drinking I really drank on the show and it was able show and you know
00:49:43
uh the people who helped me make that also just awesome people being like out all hours of the night for days and days
00:49:50
at a time and that was my idea that was like what happens after the show you go out and I also wanted to do late job so
00:49:57
you know everything that we kind of did on that show became its own entity on other shows and people like do you feel
00:50:04
that you know you it's like I don't care I don't care who's doing it whatever when I did it uh I did it the best I
00:50:10
could this was before cell phones it would never work now with all of the technology well you're the first one
00:50:16
that's good and to be honest like uh you know I think Anthony bdan did the ultimate travel show like the guy found
00:50:24
what what it's really about food is universal and I always felt like you know this guy people always like hey he's doing a tral I was like there's
00:50:30
nothing like that show that guy really you know he found the thing or that was his thing that like I mean you can't you
00:50:36
can't top what he did so I'm just one of many travel shows of the of the of the
00:50:41
time so well I belittle every yeah you're like
00:50:48
this is shitty that was horrible and then that happened uh I don't know I'm not really I think it was ahead of it
00:50:55
time to put a comic in that those situations improvising and being re being real authentic you know was like
00:51:02
well let's talk about Kami Central because that was like I think the hey day of Kami Central the Chappelle show was killing it yes to this day I'd say
00:51:09
probably the top if not the top five the top three of great sketch shows I mean I
00:51:14
mean him and Ne what they put together there I mean amazing yeah and then my show was there I felt like we were
00:51:20
utility show you know like we were like they would always go like okay we need you to do this and this and this I'm
00:51:26
like but it's snowing there it's like well you got to do it you know because it was an outdoor show most of the time
00:51:31
so it was always the spring break so it was really tough on us weatherwise sorry guys also running a
00:51:38
Bitcoin H Factory here so anyway yeah so that was what that was that was like the
00:51:45
serious travel show and I would do road after that but here's the thing you guys will love this and I'm sorry if I'm
00:51:50
babbling because this is good I get asked about the show all the time but the real the real deal is that a lot of
00:51:56
people who watched it were like in high school who couldn't go out yet so that
00:52:01
they they I was always like well if this show is such a hit how come the club isn't full or how come like this tour is
00:52:08
not making money and it turns out they weren't old enough yet to go to see a live show so years later they all caught
00:52:13
up with me and then some but back then I was like you know I don't get it man I mean where is everybody everybody's
00:52:19
talking about it I'm drinking with everybody like what's going on here and then it turns out they just weren't ready to like go to clubs yet so
00:52:28
that was it so Comedy Central you had Captain miserable Road road
00:52:36
work my specials your specials the Ugly American that's why I did that for John
00:52:42
stew it that was my character Daily Show and of course that one is um is uh the
00:52:48
Ugly American I I assume everybody considers us all ugly at this point but uh back then it was a lot of fun because
00:52:54
you could be inappropriate you put John down he always had a great sense of humor so and then you you and Jeff Ross
00:52:59
are a cool pair Bumble yeah bumping that was another one that was another thing
00:53:05
and uh we wanted to get Dave on that for sure which like we did the three or we did three episodes in New York at the
00:53:11
village underground and to be to be fair you know bumping mics that's Jeff's idea
00:53:17
we just started doing it for fun at the end of the shows he would come to town on stage i' bring him on stage we go out
00:53:22
each other and like uh you know he is the roast Master we all know that so you know um it was great keeping up with
00:53:28
Jeff and then like learning like how to work together it's really difficult as you know like to have another voice on
00:53:34
stage and how to like you know back back and forth we got really good at it we toured a bit on it and the shows that we
00:53:40
did people still to this day come up and talk about that so I would say Jeff is fearless everything I wanted to cut out
00:53:47
of the thing he kept in and people loved it so he was right and he was wrong and you know I guess at the end of day I'm a
00:53:52
coward because I'm like oh we're gonna get we're gonna get we're gonna get blowback on this and that he's like what
00:53:58
are you nuts I mean come on let's keep it in there so I always give up to Jeff like you know I guess he could see
00:54:03
through the trees whereas I was like you know we're we're heading rocks so yeah I
00:54:09
think you did it one night and brought me up and I sat there on the side with the mic with you guys is that possible I
00:54:15
I think so yeah do you remember where it was was it in New York or La no is it
00:54:21
Poss no not Largo I think it was somewhere lgo we've never done was a
00:54:26
trick and you've you passed um no maybe it was The Comedy Store we've never done
00:54:32
it there uh maybe it was probably was The Comedy Store so you
00:54:38
know but yeah both of you would be awesome because let's face it the crowd is not just a fan of us but of Comedy so
00:54:44
they were like right they just they were great and it's good if you're on the side because you guys talk and get and
00:54:49
carry it and then I just chirp in yeah no I remember now it was it was we had a
00:54:54
lot of really great it was all because of Jeff because Jeff knows everybody so we had the late great Bob sacket Gilbert
00:55:02
who we're both really good friends with he did it and then we had Bob sack and Gilbert together which was like kind of
00:55:07
a Kong versus Godzilla moment it was like a awesome very similar these two go
00:55:12
at it you know of course and um uh what was he Bruce Willis was on it I mean
00:55:17
like we had some really big names that came by and that was all because of Jeff you know so far nothing is because of
00:55:23
you in this whole in your whole career yeah I like to think I'm just kind of like the uh I'm the ring around the bathtub
00:55:30
that's a
00:55:36
li can I just ask you what do you well like what you're you're going to tour
00:55:42
all the time are you out now or what do you how often are you going out and do you have a new half hour next yeah what
00:55:49
do you do with that that's I think we talked about it at the uh hor Tony it's
00:55:54
like already cuz you need about a 100 great jokes right it's so tough you need
00:56:00
100 jokes to do jokes I do CH Brockley for 19 minutes that's boom I I repeat
00:56:05
one phrase over but guys like you or Larry bubbles Browns it's like really good jokes every 15 seconds 20 seconds
00:56:13
hard to get half hour uh I got about 15 minutes of okay and then probably 30 of
00:56:20
like hey I'm trying up here you know but yeah I gave I I you know forgive the
00:56:26
turn I shot my load on the last one and like I hadn't been in this situation in about four or five years where like you
00:56:31
got nothing and I talked to the young Comics like Sam Morel Mark Norman these guys turn hours like now every like 14
00:56:37
months they're like turning hours and I'm like very tough and they also get it like you know yeah when you got nothing
00:56:44
and then you're going back out there like you really like you know it's really a sad like you know it's like
00:56:50
God's love where is it you know like you're really there alone so or you tip
00:56:55
the crowd and say hey work in my work in my new hour warning have you ever gone
00:57:02
up with notes then like with a notepad so they kind of know uh hey I'm just uh
00:57:07
that's what I do like hey I I don't know what's happening next but I feel bad for the audience what I'm not I like when
00:57:14
you do that because uh I think a lot of the crowd go like oh I'm getting to see the process yeah they realiz wow I
00:57:20
really kind of would like a more finished thing you know because at yeah guys are getting this stuff that
00:57:27
you know but it's a good trick it's a trick because they laugh hard you're like is this anything Polish joke I just
00:57:32
go you're going to hate this bit and then I'm gonna tell it to you again and point out where why and where you're
00:57:38
gonna hate it so that always helps the bit because they go yeah that's true told You're Gonna Hate It Ah that's not
00:57:44
too bad but the um the the thing that I like is when um you know I'll uh uh you
00:57:50
know do the jokes that didn't make it you know and those are that's the people like why didn't that get in there always
00:57:56
gets a better laugh they're like that's not that bad so what's the most uh money
00:58:01
you've made in one single uh calendar year what is that what oh you take cute
00:58:08
questions from the audience no I'm GNA I was asking you I'm all I'm I'm really into celebrity net worth and stuff but
00:58:14
I'm just okay you don't have to answer that thing is I'm making millions more than I actually am but I'm on tour
00:58:21
because my mom has R the clock care she has dementia which is very expensive and you know we wanted to have another
00:58:27
disease Which is less job Dana but that's what she's going with so this is real this is real stuff so part of it is
00:58:35
like you know I'll never quit you know I'm a road the other part of me is like I got these bills you know I got can't quit so that's part of it and like uh
00:58:42
you know the other thing is um I really wouldn't know what to do myself if I wasn't out there but I would say that um
00:58:48
you know as long as I'm still um you know everything gets harder but the actual show like the flights the hotel
00:58:56
all the food all that kind of stuff you know poor us that's our lives but it really does kind of grind down on you
00:59:02
but the show is for me like it's like yeah there's good ones there's bad ones but like as long as I'm coming up with one new thing then you're like okay I
00:59:08
guess I'm still able to do this so you know yep that is fun getting ideas is one of the fun things left in life if
00:59:15
you get a good idea positive coming out of old Dave it's it's a good code to crack if you can still go come up with a
00:59:23
bit and just go oh [ __ ] oh this is cool oh and then it work Works you're like that gives you a little uh juice I
00:59:30
everybody says that everybody Bob newart would say that you do your same old set you try one joke out or bit and if it
00:59:37
works you're just kind of like oh that that was a great night you know that's fun I got a new I got a new toy you can
00:59:43
still do it yeah yeah but I I go back to Chris Rock for what you were saying it's like it's a job like Lauren Michael what
00:59:50
do you think of Lauren Michaels I think he gave me a job and so the fact is you're still in demand and people want
00:59:57
to pay you money to go do your thing so why stop nice well are you enjoying it
01:00:03
now that like you know you could just go out and you know like I guess basically do whatever you feel like doing you know
01:00:09
there's really no pressure now like that you're able to just go out there and and like enjoy it you know so many so many
01:00:15
years it's either about like you know I gotta do this because it might lead to this all that kind of stuff like for you guys especially like just go out and
01:00:22
have fun with it right yeah it's just some days I wake up I want to get on Southwest today it's enjoyable yeah I
01:00:29
don't travel that much but yeah in the early days it's painful to even think about uh the amount of stage fright I
01:00:35
had and the amount of fear really oh yeah I was terrified um for years yeah I
01:00:42
mean during college days and Rob Williams would was there in the beginning and then he went and got more
01:00:47
convened but he was always coming back and it was so powerful and so explosive it was just sort of like oh [ __ ] hard to
01:00:55
compete with I got follow would you say like at his hey day like there's no way any could follow him right no because he
01:01:02
he always thought he apologized me once like he he took something from me I I go I try to take your whole act I mean he
01:01:08
came up with others did it talk about influence he came up with this conceit
01:01:13
of a Shakespearean actor that has no act and they just pushed him out on stage
01:01:18
and and and then he learned how to do that but that spontaneity and oh go jump in the audience at the time I remember
01:01:25
Gary sh hing's thinking why why am I even trying why why why am I doing this we in the same business tornado but it
01:01:32
did make you work harder you're like okay that's the level of killing because in those days you just wanted to just
01:01:38
kill and so Robin did sort of make you go okay I got I gotta get better so that
01:01:45
was the good side of it but it's it seems like every laugh was a home run with him or at least that's what you
01:01:50
know you see when you look at those old tapes just like it was just Crush Crush Crush like Jim Carrey another guy like
01:01:57
Crush Crush Crush there had to be in the beginning especially times when people were just kind of like he was ahead of
01:02:02
the crowd they didn't get him right like immediately did they or did they sometimes Robin would come into the holy
01:02:08
city zoo the 60 catar in San Francisco in the late 70s and you know he do two
01:02:13
hours and in those days he was kind of drinking and stuff and sometimes people would start to walk out after just
01:02:19
because he was just out there but I think his rhythm wherever his voice came from he's from Detroit and Marine count
01:02:26
but this sort of like this voice was and right now there's a man going hello and after a while you're just seduced by it
01:02:32
I was on stage doing improv once and he's going right now there's a men going the men going whoa and and he didn't
01:02:38
have a line he still got a line yeah but his joke the voice was so and then he
01:02:44
wouldn't really use the mic was also another thing he'd stand away from the mic hello and and this sense that like he
01:02:51
didn't know it was going to happen and so it was a nice one of those shooting pres yeah well that's that's another
01:02:58
thing is like you know took me a while to get comfortable and it took me another while to like figure out what I'm doing but there are people who are
01:03:04
just gifted who like immediately boom they got it that's who they are and then they run towards it you know so like uh
01:03:12
just just like I mean there's a definitely a deep bench of guys who and women are just that good at it you know
01:03:18
I don't know I don't know I well you should watch your own special yeah Dave's one of the best uh thatal I would
01:03:26
I I happily recommend it to our listeners just go on a lot coming from you guys you know and um I hope this
01:03:33
podcast is successful I mean eventually you'll get those stands that other podcasts have for the microphones instead of this morning radio kind of
01:03:40
feel [ __ ] mother I mean our parent company is in bankruptcy so we we we're
01:03:47
we're on a budget this I'm at a holiday in yeah that's a set D is in all right
01:03:55
well thank you for coming on buddy hey uh let's let's make a plan if I'm ever that way you guys please come on one of
01:04:02
my shows and I'd love to be a part of whatever you guys are doing I would love I'd love to see you in person Dave definely thank you
01:04:08
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