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you go ahead start this off who's our guest ago WM and she is a lovely young
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lady on SNL I think six years in uh really great chat with her and we this
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is the deepest dive we've done on one sketch we Lisa from Taca which was a
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sketch that was renamed uh which I thought was very interesting that they you know you you
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name a sketch it's like it reminds me of the P Colada Song Dana it was called it
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was called Escape but everyone said hey I like the P colaton so they changed the
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name so this was uh she's so articulate and fun and and a selfstarter and just
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had a lot of really interesting things to say about SNL and about being there and what it's like yeah this was the mo
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she takes you on a ride that we've done before with other guests but there's these emotional tipping points and she
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talks about just just how the the whole Arc of being on Satur live as a cast member um is just it's can be Topsy
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Turvy the sketch's cut or it's in or this the host dropped out or whatever it is and she really is very honest she's
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very very talkative and we do orientate the episode like David right David said
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uh Lisa from Tula a character she played in a restaurant scene with Pedro Pascal
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I think and did a Stak and it was physical it was funny and she said it just reorientated the way uh the writers
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and would look at her and and really the the audience she she killed so hard hit
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every beat perfect just one of those classic sketches and um it's like having
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it's honestly like having a hit movie come out and then you're like a good actor and then someone has a hit movie
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and then now they're getting the good scripts just the way Showbiz is so she does a sketch that blows up gets on goes
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a little bit viral and then suddenly they're like you know what she'd be good in this and that just it really like
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woke her up and gave her new energy for being on a show that's just a tough beating sometimes yeah and because
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there's a larger cast even if you've been on six years there still is this dance with the audience where they
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discover you and they see you in something oh they like that and then maybe you're not in things that give you
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that platform and then I like that and I like that and you're showing a different angle that you have and you're like oh she can play that also oh let's make her
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play that you know yeah and then it builds on itself and then the best place you can get to is where the audience
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just sort of is already ready to laugh you know like with Keenan Thompson they're just ready to to laugh with
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Kenan he hits every line but I think that she's still you know I just say I
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think she's kind of popping I'm just you know there's a subtlety of confidence where you're like say you're 70%
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confident or 80% and if you can get to 90 95 it's a whole other thing the audience senses it than everybody's
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having having fun and that's where she's at uh and so and she's uh really an
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affectionate person she hugs everybody she's very sweet yep she looks like a
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lot of fun and uh I know you're doing the show with her now which is great to be around everybody that's been on the show uh so here she is hey
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[Music] go wow hi I know you know Dana I do know
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oh yeah yeah we know each other we know
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each other yeah we we we get each other I always
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get my hug when we do those fake good nights you know oh yes I give real hugs
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that fake good nights and it throws yeah the hugs are real but the first one's fake we have to act like we're crying oh
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yes oh that's true I'm disrespectful I thought about this the other day I was
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like I think it's kind of rude maybe that I wear my as we call them behind
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the scenes comfies for dress rehearsal good nights I don't even attempt to make
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the audience feel like they are at the real show I've gone out there with a BAL cap I I think I've yeah I think I've
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gone out there as Biden I don't know I mean it's just practice they're a practice audience we're
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practicing look if you can't get the main ticket 11:30 we can't help you tonight listen I count the good nights
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as a sketch I used to really you give good good nights he's skill I said I was
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in a couple things I was an update I was in good nights give us your good night wave to the crowd David let's let's see
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it I go like this I'd never go to the front because we'd make fun of each other for trying to be too thirsty okay
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and then if you hug the host first they'd make fun of you or we would make fun of each other so I go Farley get up
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there you know you're going to hug him in 5 seconds uhhuh I said at least wait till he gets all the lines out like good
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night everyone thanks Foo Fighters and then grab and then um and then we would
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like go as far back as we could wait were people jumping the gun at times trying to hug the host before they said
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all their thank you I mean other than Chris I don't know it was funny because
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uh you know they liked certain cast members but they would there were certain ones you knew you might know in
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your head without saying some sort of worm up to that front row to get on camera you I always don't like it but
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what's your tactic say the names I I'm gonna drop names I'm going to be dropping tea this is going to be kind of
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the club sh Shay um Cat Williams interview style where I burn it all down
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and burn how would Cat Williams say that let me think about this I know it's
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hard to hard to you have to get warmed up and you do have to do you see me put my hands on my legs and go okay hold on let me find it let me find it I haven't
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listened to him in some time now David David David Spade and Dana CI I'm trying
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to tell you something in there something yeah it's kind of nasy yeah it's yeah it's very cool so they don't tell you I
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told them when I we I golfed him I've only met him once we golfed and I go last time they made us they made me play
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from the uh Pro T's he goes you're David Spade they don't tell you to do nothing
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you tell them that's kind of something good that's it was something he's got a
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very unique it's very good it's a beautiful voice beautiful voice hard to get his first special that I saw I put
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it up there with anything I've ever seen in my life he's pretty he's pretty incredible also to have made that
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interview I was reflecting on that interview as recently as yesterday because I got the the I won't say
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dreaded email the email about which episode would you like to submit for contention for this award nomination and
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I was like and so I was looking through I kind of arbitrarily picked but I thought about that sketch I got to do
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and I thought about that moment where he did that interview and helped the podcast blow up I'm not gonna be able to
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do that for you here today but David it is nice to meet you formally because I have very nice to meet you if only we
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could hug on stage behind an a host I would run up to you because I have no
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shame anymore back then shame yeah no shame well yeah also you you got it people some people are not in any
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sketches was this a thing back in the day not in any sketches because that's just with the way the cookie crumbled and then you're at good nights it's it h
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it happened not in my ear to go and think it would really turn the show on its lid like if Lauren finds out because
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they'd walk around knock on the door good nights good nights like Marcy Klein or okay Talent person and then I go I'm
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not going as like I'm standing up against this establishment and then I
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thought Lauren would be tossing and turning in his sleep or couldn't have fun at the party because of that
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absolutely unbothered no one noticed oh oh David wasn't a good night so okay
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well that's too bad for time we got another L
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impression to get the LA impression audience to know that we've done four shows together so we've had four musical
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guests and four hosts so who's your favorite and who do you want to trash
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yeah burn it down burn it down the year new podcast called burn it down is a good idea maybe I start hosting that one
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I have all the hosts have been absolutely lovely this season I will say this stand out to me no I know honestly
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Stand Out honestly [ __ ] off to me for real but stand out what I will say is
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stand out to me because I feel like we were having a mutual love Fest between the two of us Ariana Grande we were
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having a I love you you love me we're a happy family Vibe going on between us
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and so I'm going to goe yeah just unreal could do anything and then was really
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kind because you know sometimes people aren't kind we've learned right but she was kind talented all the things you
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want her to be had range was down to play and I always say the hosts who are
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before having range that's great and I love that and of course that's helpful I think being willing to play and look
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stupid and kind of just go with the flow and see where this thing takes you end up the best when I saw her walk down the
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hallway and 8h with that castr castr it on I said okay that's
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gonna the little hat and but yeah she was game and her range
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is unbelievable and so she probably looked at you and said Gee it's I'm looking into a mirror oh well that is
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very kind Dana Dana wants extra hugs and I'm giving he Lisa from tomacula maybe
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your most badass performance thank you that was
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[ __ ] fun man that was okay I've said this before but you guys will understand
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this having been cast members at the show when we got to do that sketch like I've told the story that I go I go you
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know it killed at table and I didn't even know that it I don't even know that
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what happened at table could have been defined as killing I feel like I unlocked a level of experience there
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just in general even if I was just watching that happen at table because uh the writers had a real stake delivered
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to me at table read okay oh okay all right so yes they had a real stake delivered to me aiman from props came
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and slid a steak to me right before he read that sketch Mikey day said this before says every time he's looking at
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over my shoulder at my phone which I say why is Mikey doing that but that's a different conversation Mikey goes every
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time I look at your phone you are not so scrolling social media you're looking at menus and like all you care about is
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food this is a true this is a true thing I'm either planning my my my near future
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meal or my distant future meals that's what I spend most of my time on my phone doing and so when he he saw across the
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table and he has this whole thing about me being a diva he does a a bit with me and he across the table sees a steak get
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delivered to me in the middle of table read and he's like okay she's getting out of control this is funny he doesn't
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know what's going on our listeners let me just insert what it is in case they haven't heard it and I want to hear more
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but basically you're you're a a pretty big personality at a restaurant and you
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get and it's just going along it's funny you're doing funny stuff which you can talk about and then you start cutting
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this steak and it keeps escalating into madness where the table is shaking and
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everyone's just trying to hold it together so that's the fact you did it at the at the really helped table read
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is great with ped Pascal with Pedro Pascal here's my thing too is I would normally when the writers I'll tell you
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how that sketch came to be too was it's written by Alex English Gary Richardson and Michael Chay the way that sketch
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came to be is from Alex english's mind apparently his cousin was at the holiday Christmas I think eating a steak and she
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was kind of shaking the table she had gotten a welld done steak that's the thing Lisa from Tula likes her steaks extra extra extra well done so it's
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basically a hockey puck and um so she so it's based on his cousin but the week
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before they had done a sketch Gary Richardson Alex English and they were like you're in our sketch you're in our
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sketch and we're friends and we get to Table read so on writing night they're like you're in our sketch I'm like cool
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that's an extra piece at table I get to read in okay we've got that I get there and my line is oo I love I love it and
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that's the one out of a 12-page sketch and I was like and we're friends so I I
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gave them so much [ __ ] about that I was like at the Afterparty that week I go oh I love it and I go you really you really
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gonna come knock on my door and tell me how I'm in your sketch that we're reading tomorrow and the line is oo I it
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and that line could have been cut by the way and I remember when I read it table the previous week I was like this is
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going to get cut once they it was a pre-tape I was like this is not a necessary line it doesn't help establish
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anything they kept it in and so I gave them [ __ ] I mean I gave them so much [ __ ] about it I was like and I got a
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full face of makeup on on a Friday to say oh I love it and then Alex so kindly
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was like okay I have something for you I have something and it was Lisa from Tula of course we didn't know it would be
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this but normally I would have said to the writers and this is my problem I would have been like yeah but where does
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it go from there like so she orders a well done steak the table's shaking and like and sort of then what um but I was
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um hands-off approach on this one you wasted all your bitching the week before yes exactly you understand I was like I
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think I think I'm out of bitching coins genuinely I'm like I'm out of bitching coins so I'm gonna have to just go thank
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you we'll see so I got to table they have this steak delivered to me and I'm
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and then the we the table read Dan know you've seen the most recent one it's now happening in ADH as opposed to on the
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17th FL last week yeah yeah and it's like far less intimate in a way and this
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table is way bigger than it was when it was on the 17th floor so I'm like is this going to shake this table is this
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is this at table read going to be reliant on my ability to shake this current gigantic table yeah just the
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yeah it's gigantic but just the sight of it it it worked somehow and I couldn't
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this is where I said I didn't I wouldn't have known in real time this was defined as killing because I couldn't get
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through the sketch at table read I was really strugg it was making me laugh in the middle of it and I was like I can't
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read this and this is so fun and silly and so I didn't even think on Wednesday when they picked the sketches that it
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even really stood a chance I wasn't worried in one way or the other I was like well that was [ __ ] fun but I didn't think it was going to get picked
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and then it got picked and then Lauren asked us to rename it because it was just birthday dinner originally and then
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um yes wait who has a thought maybe maybe dinner steak or
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something Susan from Modesto maybe from Hampton's um Lila from San
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Diego those writers are so brilliant well does he wanted to name
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something more about the steak so they know what the [ __ ] sketch talk I think he wanted it he was like he suspected so
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on Friday he calls me into his office and I'm thinking and I'm feeling a
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little anxious about this sketch all week and people are like it's really funny and for me also I will say I don't know how you guys feel about this if
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something kills at table baby in my opinion that's Kiss of Death it's gonna it's going to play to it's gonna play to
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literal silence it's going to play to silence go but down yeah yes and so I
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was like I don't even know how this thing is actually going to work I didn't think about the monkey boys their what
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their hand in it and how the the writers had planned to produce this so I was like this is a lot like I'm pretty
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strong but I don't know if I'm going to be able to shake a table sufficiently for this sketch and then I realized it wasn't on me totally but Lauren called
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us into called me and then other the writers into his office on Friday and I was like okay this meeting is for sure
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him telling us like this was fun all week to pretend we were
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onsh but I because I was like I don't know how this works but he was calling to be like you're going to want to name
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this woman something more memorable and I was like I don't know I quite the
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opposite of what I thought he was calling us in to talk about I he was sort of like people are going to want to
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see this character again and then I'm like well now this feels like a different kind of pressure and Alex and Gary came up with Lisa from Tula I don't
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know how where why I used to live in LA so I'm like I'm familiar with Tula but
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what an obscure it kind of means nothing it just sounds good though I like it yes yes and then we panicked cuz somebody
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told me they're like what what a random [ __ ] name so then on Saturday morning we were like going through other names
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and shout out to Gary Richardson being like no I think we just keep at Lea from Tula it's kind of yeah it's kind of
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nothing let's keep it that yeah so it was very fun but at dress guys what' I
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say at dress oh uh oh it does not do well somebody really no and all week
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people in hair Department going I don't laugh at anything and honestly with sound off watching the Monitor and the hair room we're dying and I go it's too
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much pressure I don't want the compliments in fact at a certain point I'm like it's all it's all kiss of death kiss of death and bad Omen yeah um
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people building it up too much pressure Lauren wants your head get in your head this is the best sketch in history no that that's really good to mention that
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on this podcast because that hasn't been talked about of like you're gonna Crush please don't say that to please do not
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say that we had one this week on the show um with can I we had one this week
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with um gosh my as soon as we go on hiatus thank you my brain erases what happened every I know because you you
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spune it you just like let to let go of it did you see it just short circuited there anyway Michael Keaton that killed
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at at table absolutely destroyed um and not and there are weeks where things are
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like that was really good at table and that was really fun and there's moments when I'm using the word killed so something killed at table with Katon and
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then got to dress rehearsal and I go oh it's crazy that's really not working the
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same and it went from like top of show to kind of down there got down there
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more a more regular slot if you will um rivaling 10 to one not quite but
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anyway I I am we do this at dress rehearsal it feels like a lot of
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pressure the table's not shaking because somebody told the monkey boy to not
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shake it as much like we and we did the run through right dry run and I was like great this feels a little chaotic but
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kind of fun I think it all come together and then it just the shaking dissipated and there's really when you say when you
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say monkey boy how do you mean that and there's someone under the table there's someone on their table and I don't know
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what their official like the monkey boy productions they do the puppets for us monkey okay I just want make was a slur
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you were slur people might think it's an actual monkey boy or something monkey or person a
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Simeon something so is that a company that deals with this stuff and does
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special effects them puppeteering I feel like I know them most for their puppet their puppet puppetry um they built me a
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mask in this four run to do a jigsaw kind of sketch and like like a welder
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situation like yeah they're incredible but someone told our guy not to shake the table as much it's not communicated
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to me sabotage it kind of you know that's the one thing that could hurt
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that sketch the one thing or or stupid but one of the yeah one it's one of the S's and so I'm like and so it's not
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shaking there's no sketch it's like a woman has ordered a extra there's no
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comedy it's like I'm trying to and then also plot twist that threw me for a [ __ ] Loop is for the first time from
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table read to now we've done it table read we've done blocking we've done Saturday daytime run through um for the
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first time at dress and no one tells me in advance which normally they would have would have been appropriate to it's
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a T-bone steak I can't even like pantomime sawing a T-bone steak that's extra extra well done you can't even I
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was like whose idea to put a big bone in the middle changed it wow don't change
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anything don't change a thing and so it's not going well there's this moment
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where I'm just like well [ __ ] and Mr Pedro Pascal whose Praises I'll
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sing till I'm blew in the face and I'm sure get great show and and a very likable great actor great actor down to
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play down to look like a fool down to look stupid like a dumbass and also didn't try to curate his own show I
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that's the other thing like to be very clear that when a host is trying to curate their own show he just gave
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himself up to truly and I think this about that episode by the way unrelated Delise from Tula glad I got that off in
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that episode when I reflect back on that episode and I was talking to Mikey day about this um I was like there are so
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many sketches in that episode that could have been the one there was like real stiff competition on that there's a
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Mario Brothers one that was beautiful tape there was um marcelo's protective
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mom sketch that was an absolute hit so yeah I haven't seen an episode like quite like that one in some time just
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where it's like there are multiple sketches in here could have been the first sketch could have been the one
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yeah and so um anyway Pedro is like I think I don't want to speak for him but
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I get the sense is thrown by like whoa we all had high expectations for this sketch and boy is this like bombing
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right now and he starts looking for the I guess it's throwing him and he's like
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now I I'm trying to how do I articulate this like trying to see a q card and but he's making it obvious like remember
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we're still in the scene but now he's making it obvious he's like kind of looking over and up and trying to see a q card an absolutely in character
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unscripted because it's bombing at this point so who [ __ ] cares I go in character and I go and what are you
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looking at then that's the biggest laugh at dress rehearsal is me going and what
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are you looking at and calling him absolutely off cards fun and then we
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wrap up and um at the be I don't know where I catch him oh at good nights at
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dress the fake good nights and I go the table wasn't shaking and there was a
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T-bone steak and he's like what the [ __ ] and mind you he's pretty straight man in that sketch so the jokes aren't really
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his it's not really about him and a lot of hosts would used that opportunity to be like see to get out of it to get out
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of it because they probably a lot of hosts wouldn't have wanted to do it in the first place okay and then yeah I'm
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just a puppet in this they aren't the score machine yeah score machine and so
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I was like that would have been a perfect out they wouldn't have fought him on it because it did bom and it would have been like a nice heartbreak
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to D dish me and um they he actually went in there and fought for it and he was like they didn't give her they gave
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her a T-bone steak the table didn't Shake I in that goddamn room because no one's in
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the room you're not allowed it's you need someone in the room and having someone in the room I've had every iteration of an experience that this
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show I feel I was saying this to Heidi recently I'm like every version of it being the baby no one gives a [ __ ] about
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having a writer who was not only really [ __ ] funny but also in the room I've
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had that writer go away and now have nobody in the room and feel like oh okay I guess we're starting from scratch
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again like and having someone in the room nothing like it really nothing Aran
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Game of Thrones creating alliances who are in the
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room for the viewers Dana let's have her say what the room is and who's in it
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okay so the room is the deciding room there's a the room I think convenes
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multiple times throughout the week but most important or seemingly significant for us as cast and for writers is the
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the room after table read so after we've read our 40 sketches on Wednesday the room convenes it is Lauren Steve Higgins
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Eric kenward I think Caroline [ __ ] is in there um Aaron Doyle is in there um
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other Rebecca Schwarz I'm not sure who else but other people from the talent Department I believe but those are the
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decision makers head writers are also in there I left them out streer Allison
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Gates Kent sublet and that's what that room looks like so you do the math on
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that so that's who's in there okay and then that room convenes again throughout the week to check in with the host I
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think they have a meeting with the host on Friday less pressing to all of us but um yeah how are you feeling what do you
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like what do you not like oh you're confused about your rolling that okay oh and a host being like I find it
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fascinating I want to be in that room one time specifically the Friday room I want to be in the Friday room because I
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want to know I want hear hosts they start not always sometimes try to
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manipulate the system a little and like if they're not scoring that's their opportunity to say I don't know what I'm
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doing in that one I just don't I don't know what I'm doing or I can't wrap my head around this very straightforward
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character can't feel it it's very straight forward I'm just having a hard time understanding I'm confused so I'm
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just setting up them to kill or Friday night at like 11 or 12 or whatever
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exactly so we that point blocked all the sketches pretty much they're waiting on the pre-tapes but they exactly and they
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start to plant those seeds you kind of see it reflected in the the re the seeds
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of death that is how you kill a SK that's how you begin to kill a sketch poison pill po oh that's good it's a
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poison create doubt just create doubt they create the little doubt and then you get the rundown we as cast The
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Writers everyone gets the rundown which is to say this is what our um run through the dry run on Saturday is going
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to look like is what dress rehearsal looks like and you it's very long we get to work at like 11:30 a.m. on Saturday
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and the show wraps at no one realizes that's the earliest day you have Yes actually truly which is insane and so
00:26:41
only rival by pre-tape day Friday where we sometimes are like I'm getting picked up at 6: am. but they the the dress
00:26:50
rehearsal run run down if you will on the left side of that document says
00:26:55
who's doing update which feels like a very secretive thing all week when pick who's doing update that's when we all
00:27:02
get to see when it becomes like and this is who's doing update so it's happening Whispers behind you you don't know
00:27:07
people if you're close are going did you have you heard about your update are you oh do we know who's doing but it's all
00:27:13
very like secret but then when that rundown comes out at 11:30 p.m. on
00:27:18
Friday or midnight Saturday you go oh that's who's doing update and oh so then
00:27:24
on that side on that left side when you see the order of the sketches and this dress re show you go ah yes at the
00:27:29
Friday meeting the host has planted a seed of doubt that sketch went from 4th of the night to now second to last of
00:27:36
the night yes exactly kind of loving these hosts I love the deviousness I
00:27:41
like a host and they're going I mean I don't know what's funny to me it's not hilarious but I trust you guys like and
00:27:48
the assistant right next to with a little notepad kind of a
00:27:54
sweater and mind you the assistant and them and the publicist have already had their conversation off to the side being
00:28:00
like everything's a side chat it's so gross everything's a side chat it's so crazy but so then yeah it's but when
00:28:07
things when when you can sense that a host has done that too then that just creates a sort of like well that sucks
00:28:14
because also you want to like you're like on Tuesday when you go to talk to a host about the idea you
00:28:21
have for the week or the ideas you have and and often times I'm a pretty direct person so I'm like you can literally say
00:28:26
you hate it you're not going to offend me you can tell me like I really don't want to do that I'm if come Wednesday
00:28:32
even if it kills at table I'm going to in that meeting veto it so don't do I don't want to do it don't waste my time
00:28:37
B don't waste my time because I have other ideas I write it and it's cool yeah takes hours it's it takes hours and
00:28:44
it's disheartening when it does kill and it doesn't go and it turns out because you didn't so please just be honest with me because I'll write something else
00:28:50
that we can both be excited about um but it's what I adore about Pedro because is
00:28:57
that he did take that opportunity in that Saturday meeting the meet that meeting we talk about happens again
00:29:03
Saturday after dress rehearsal right that's so now that's it the big that's
00:29:09
the most intense time of piing the show it's like 10:45 or basically hack a half
00:29:15
hour out of dress so you're in the show all week and then by 11:00 p.m. you're
00:29:20
suddenly not in the show so what happened with Lisa from tul well Lisa he went in that room and he fought for it
00:29:27
and said in that meeting he wanted to do it in that meeting that there was they
00:29:33
gave me a T-bone stake which WTF and then that the table wasn't shaking who
00:29:38
where why did that happen when did when did that decision get made and also if that if that was a note that was
00:29:43
communicated to the monkey boy not a slur the company right if that was a if
00:29:48
that was a note communicated to them why no one told me why no one communicated
00:29:55
it to all of us or why we didn't do a like quick little like hey it's going to come to this hallway right now it's not
00:30:00
going to be on the set but like let me show you how much I'll be shaking it at this point and then we'll ramp up to this right so um he I appreciate it
00:30:08
because most hosts I feel now that I've been there long enough many of them and I want to say most since I'm going to
00:30:14
say most would have been like yeah see it didn't work and I'm not doing anything and so we have to cut stuff
00:30:20
anyway yeah we have to and maybe another time man bummer that's so fun yeah but
00:30:26
let you [ __ ] about it later and be like no but and they're like oh do it next week then yes and then next week they
00:30:31
don't we don't actually do it because it's like well I forgot we forgot we told you you could do it next week so um
00:30:36
air quote forgot but um he fought for it but what's interesting is on that week I'll say this there's a sketch I do the
00:30:44
following show I believe where Travis Kelce hosts he either hosts immediately after Pedro we go on hiatus after Pedro
00:30:51
and then I think Travis Kel's the following host um um and he he
00:30:58
he ended up acting in this sketch but this was the this is how the night panned out I had a sketch the same week
00:31:03
as Lisa from Tula with James Austin Johnson a prince love him he's an incredible performer inspired by Michael
00:31:11
McDonald and Patty leel I'm obsessed with Michael McDonald and we got to talk one the great voices of all time oh my
00:31:18
gosh beles is crazy oh gosh well I I I listen to Michael McDonald relatively
00:31:23
regularly but um I feel like someone told me and maybe it was Kyle Mooney maybe this is wrong
00:31:30
and I felt sorry we love Kyle Yawn if you yawn while you're singing you that's
00:31:36
your Michael McDonald impression and it's pretty
00:31:45
effective sounds insane a beautiful beautiful D brother
00:31:53
so who's Travis Kelce so Travis Kelce is a football player he is boyfriend in the
00:31:58
sketch I was going to say who's Taylor Swift again he is a
00:32:06
singer she's girlfriend to Tris Kel these are great parts for them go
00:32:12
ahead so Travis Kelsey ends up playing this thing that Pedro was it was me and James Austin Johnson the sketch goes
00:32:18
there with Travis but Pedro was in it um originally uh at that's that's the week
00:32:24
we happen to write it and he plays a man named sucre a name I'm obsessed with from prison
00:32:30
break one of my favorite TV shows there was a guy yeah um which I believe means
00:32:35
Spanish and mean Spanish mean sugar in Spanish it mean sugar in Spanish so
00:32:41
anyway he that it they were up against each other in a sense it kind of panned out that like because Pedro's episode
00:32:49
was so so so strong we're talking killer killer killer sketch after killer this
00:32:54
sketch with him I don't remember what it ultimately Family song family meeting family meeting is what it's called it
00:33:00
was Pedro it was great it actually did really well at dress okay and so after
00:33:05
the meeting the the big meeting the Saturday 10 o'clock meeting PM meeting um that one is still in the show as is
00:33:14
Lisa from Tula but they're backtack basically like commercial break between them and it's like we always know you go
00:33:20
into dress rehearsal with a longer show than you have time for generally speaking and so something's going to get
00:33:25
cut for time on air and sometimes that cut for time thing ends up on the internet on YouTube and sometimes it's
00:33:31
just like no that sketch is cut and you're going to have to try it again it came down to family meeting and Lisa and
00:33:39
family meeting absolutely proved itself at dress rehearsal I was in it I helped
00:33:44
write it it's also something I loved and was passionate about and Pedro was so great in it um and ultimately family
00:33:51
meeting got cut in favor of Lisa at the end of the show but I remember I was sure Lisa wasn't going for how bu up it
00:33:58
had been all week and for how crappy it was at dress and so Tom Broker comes up to me my Quick Change costume costume
00:34:06
who is my clo you know people are scared of Tom and I find it fascinating because he's my closest closest person there
00:34:13
when I was there yeah I I had not seen him in years and then I was just pouring my heart out to him just just seeing him
00:34:21
and you start you're doing the dressing you're throwing back well I I was just saying that to a new cast member too I
00:34:27
go I don't know what it is something about I said when I first got here I feel like DNL I was
00:34:33
quite I don't want to say kg is not the word it's the first thing that comes to mind it's not the right word but for the sake of being concise um K and like
00:34:41
somehow I found myself talking a lot to Tom though and I goes it because I'm in a closet with you with all these clothes
00:34:47
and something about there's some intimacy about yeah he's yeah and I was like I would I would talk to him though
00:34:52
and tell him basically everything but Tom comes up to me and goes get dressed for Lisa
00:34:58
and I kind of is that how you found out yes yes and and it was like right before we were about to do it and I mean I had
00:35:04
to get dressed in 60 seconds because I was sure that wasn't going and he goes
00:35:09
gets dressed and I and this is just self-protective okay because at that point I had been i' had been heartbroken
00:35:16
if you will and I was like this is crazy the buildup to have it then go that way and so much was out of my control and it
00:35:22
wasn't a matter of performance and I don't even know that I feel the audience got to see the sketch cuz all the
00:35:28
alties I feel like I I'm not a big eye roller but I like to say and he and I are very close I feel like I rolled my
00:35:34
eyes and I go really because I was so hurt I was like
00:35:40
I can't believe and I go so what it can be a throwaway sketch now in my mind and
00:35:45
I didn't say that part but I think that's what was going on I was like at the end of the night oh okay really but you lost confidence in it I lost
00:35:51
confidence yeah and I was just and that's what that little we're so close and and he probably didn't even read it
00:35:58
as attitudy but I try to say generally positive but I just remember going really and then going in the did you
00:36:04
almost want to do the one that worked damn it David that is such a good
00:36:10
question because I think about it a everything would just be so
00:36:17
different for me it's wild to think that like they said you pick yeah no this
00:36:23
thing went very viral millions millions of YouTube if she got to pick she might
00:36:29
say just I just want one to work just give me I just want one to work we know that one worked and [ __ ] it I don't know
00:36:34
I'm and I'm kind of salty and pissed and heard about this other thing and so [ __ ] it and to I'm glad it wasn't up to me
00:36:41
because I yeah I might have picked family meeting which would mean a very
00:36:47
different trajectory for me because I think Lisa from Tula not to be hotti at all but one I had so much fun doing it
00:36:53
but two I think it's the moment people are like oh she's a really fun sketch performer and then people who listen to
00:36:58
me on Comedy Bang Bang that podcast which is in scottman Scotty Scotty Al um
00:37:05
know me to be insane but I don't think up until Lisa up until Lisa everyone has
00:37:11
just considered me this like very polished listen I like to look nice guys but I'm an insane person in real life
00:37:17
and I do comedy because I'm wild and cookie and I might look like I'm put together and in ways I am but like my
00:37:23
sense my comedic sensibility I think is like been largely reflected on Comedy Bang Bang and those fans when Lisa
00:37:30
fromula happen goes that's the ago I know who's been on this podcast for all these years that's we're we've been
00:37:36
waiting to see that on SNL um and so I'm glad it worked out how it did because I think for the first time a broader the
00:37:44
larger audience could say oh that's that's her comedy that's there's something to point to that it's like
00:37:50
when Debbie Downer happens just there's some now and then that blow up and it's very hard to get something to kind of
00:37:56
blow up it's so hard even if it's a good sketch it doesn't mean it it just sometimes they kind of hit you go oh
00:38:02
people are coming up and asking me about this now so something work there yeah go ahead so unique I just
00:38:09
think you landed it so perfectly just watching it a couple hours ago um and
00:38:15
you drove it so well so yeah I could see that would be like a stor making moment because you were just just on fire uh as
00:38:23
a character Landing line after line he just wants butt or because we're black
00:38:29
or whatever you kept Landing these lines that was like beautiful and also and you
00:38:35
know that was my I'm in my seventh that was my fifth season fourth season um and
00:38:42
I think fifth but um I had been leading up to that that was a fe that was February the place is frustrating for
00:38:49
all of us no matter what time understatement of the [ __ ] year I call it emotionally violent you know
00:38:57
what that's probably really accurate that's accurate and it's really frustrating and I think I'm a pretty
00:39:03
strong person um and I don't actually look for the world to be fair I'm the
00:39:08
youngest of four I was explaining this to someone I'm the youngest of four my mom is a doctor she would bring candy
00:39:13
home that like pharmaceutical sales reps would bring the the doctors in the office which is maybe its own [ __ ] up
00:39:20
thing that they're they bribe doctors that way but whatever I'm not here to comment on that but she would bring home
00:39:25
candy or whatever like sweet treats the pharmaceutical reps would bring and I
00:39:30
was the LA I was always the I got to pick last like so my oldest brother would get his his dibs first because
00:39:36
he's the oldest then my sister because she's second then my brother ahead of me and then me last and we never changed the order for Equity ever and I was just
00:39:43
like yeah I'm the youngest and I'm gonna get the last pick so I don't when Lauren talks Lauren talks to me sometimes about the show being fair and how it's not
00:39:49
fair and I go I am not rich not fair I'm like I'm the last person looking for
00:39:54
fair in here I don't think I grew up with the most Fair my life was I don't know that was fair um you know AO I had that happen with my
00:40:01
dad and I came back from SNL and said he said why are you down about it I go I just it doesn't seem like it's fair and
00:40:08
he goes who told you it was going to be fair I go well nobody but shouldn't
00:40:15
things just be fair and he's like I wouldn't guess that place would be that fair I'm telling you that fair is one of
00:40:22
the most loaded words in the English language and I've heard people use it like it's not fair even if they win the
00:40:30
lottery so to speak it's just not fair and your dad was uh preent and why yes I
00:40:36
think so absolutely why and I just had someone in the talent Department two weeks ago told me they said my mom said
00:40:42
I'd be having a better time here if I just accept it wasn't
00:40:48
fair said you having a better time you're at the best place you can be in comedy and it's the [ __ ] hardest
00:40:54
you're like why this should be going better that's what I always thought I'm like godamn it's so but you know you
00:41:01
don't have a sense of it Hiatus is really nice because you get to go out in
00:41:06
the world and go oh someone more than recognizes me because that's whatever but goes oh I love that thing you do or
00:41:12
like my favorite yeah and you go okay because you inside of it have no sense
00:41:18
of whatever impact you're making or more importantly like if anything you're doing is even [ __ ] register or
00:41:24
translating into anything truly cannot tell and you don't even leave the building most that
00:41:30
until I don't people ask me how do you like living in New York and I go I don't live in New York I work in New York I
00:41:35
don't know where I am I don't know where I am I go from my apartment to 30 Rock and you're not outside for just 12 14
00:41:43
hours at a time no like I don't know what I don't know anything about New York I know where 30 Rock is and the new
00:41:49
eer in the basement there The Concourse like I know that's my version of New York but I that that that exper
00:41:57
experience with Lisa was so affirming as a performer I didn't
00:42:03
know I certainly it's so crazy how the goal poost change for you too when you're a
00:42:08
cast member there my first season it was like can I get a sketch on cool you
00:42:14
don't even have a concept so when that rundown comes out at um midnight on Saturday morning or 11:45 p.m. on Friday
00:42:21
that we're talking about you're not like oh mine's first of the night or it's last of the night oh [ __ ] like you
00:42:28
everything I had described to you a little bit ago about the meeting and the host and did meant nothing to me my
00:42:33
first season I had no concept of it I just was like I have a sketch in cool um
00:42:39
and then as you you spend more time there you start to understand how the system works and what everything sort of
00:42:44
means or represents you're like oh well then I I want that I want to I want to have that version of it and that's
00:42:50
[ __ ] and I just have to say I love that word
00:42:56
[Music] a sketch early and read through I never knew was uh you call it table but my
00:43:03
first week I handed one and it was fourth and they were like that's good I'm like why is that good and they go
00:43:08
you don't want it at the very end you don't want unless it's the very last sketch sometimes people wake up for that
00:43:14
but once you go there we used to do like an hour and a half then have like a little break and you to wake people up
00:43:19
then you do another hour and a half or so and that second half was just death those first 10 get the most attention
00:43:26
that when I was there I don't know if it's the same thing but that's something I never knew it's true it's when you
00:43:31
it's the same thing now um another thing I didn't realize until like my third fourth season where I was having a
00:43:38
really good time and Anna dresen and I were this like having the collaborative
00:43:43
experience of our dreams but a lot of our sketches would be okay you do the they would read like The monologue and
00:43:50
then the cold open and then our sketch would be the next one up but I felt and
00:43:56
that was like a few weeks in a row and I go pretty damn cool pretty cool um but then when that stops happening you're
00:44:01
like oh no but I want that again that thing that I didn't even know was a thing now I want that um and I feel its
00:44:07
absence and I'm chasing that again for no reason but I I was telling someone last season I go I actually don't [ __ ]
00:44:14
with my sketch being to too early let's get like three four red before mine I'm
00:44:20
like I don't want it to be the very first sketch proper cuz sometimes the host is not though they've read their
00:44:26
monolog they're not warmed up they're not quite understanding how it goes and yes you can have prepped them beforehand
00:44:34
um a little bit and have that little conversation with them about what your piece is and kind of what you're expecting and hoping them to do in their
00:44:40
performance but I'm like I need I want the host warmed up by the time we get to my sketch and I I do think it's just
00:44:46
human nature to kind of I say eighth or ninth and you follow a sketch that was
00:44:52
pretty weak you wouldn't want to follow a Chris Farley banger yeah you here's my
00:44:58
thing I don't think here I have a hot take on this not week because I feel like it's going to be hard to make the
00:45:06
yeah the chart it's going to be hard to get them back going again granted if you do get them going after really weak one
00:45:12
you go oh this is probably going to get make it to dress rehearsal because that that really took us from zero to something but I'm like I want it to have
00:45:19
done pretty well like just not not a banger not a banger before me but just
00:45:25
pretty well I you really have really have this show down I mean I'm I'm we've interviewed a lot of people but this has
00:45:31
been uh it's stuff I'm learning remembering again keep I'm insane though
00:45:38
and uh is the truth and I overthink I don't know if it's overthinking because it's just the way my brain works and I
00:45:44
have tried I'm like I should sedate myself a little bit more but my brain is like clocking a thousand which is why I
00:45:51
go am I the right person for this job or the exact wrong person because I wish I was just like a touch more ignorant like
00:45:58
where I go back to that first year version of a cast member it was just like I just want to sketch on all I know
00:46:03
is let's try to get a sketch on and now no one has explained any of this [ __ ] to me but I've slowly picked up on it
00:46:09
myself over the years and like and this means that and that's that and I go it's probably giving me a headache and
00:46:15
breaking my heart more than it needs to be broken you know when you do something like the Lisa sketch do
00:46:21
you and you've you've seen I'd been there Dana's been there when you see someone do something like that that but
00:46:28
you haven't done it yet it's sort of it's sort of interesting to say what is that like when it kind of blows up and
00:46:35
then you got in one so it's like another level of endorphins where you're like oh this is what it's like when something
00:46:41
really hits it's so fun but no wonder everyone chases it because it's like God I want to do another one of these or I
00:46:47
want something else that works like that on that level yeah it was like drugs and I say there's so much that feels like
00:46:53
drugs there was a season I had so again my seventh season there's a season there
00:46:59
where my expectation for what they would allow me to do at SNL just being the seventh black woman in the history of
00:47:05
the show was pretty I don't want to say low but tempered I I think I'm a good
00:47:10
performer I think I'm a confident performer I I'm I know my comedic voice
00:47:15
um but I also know I was like stepping into an establishment with that history and uh it's a machine of its own and I'm
00:47:23
one person and so I was like I have a I've my goal felt pretty limited there
00:47:30
um and then to have had these experiences I'm like yeah you get the drugs in your system so like when I I'm
00:47:36
like my third season I feel like Kate was a away shooting maybe Tiger King at
00:47:42
the time and 80 was away doing shrill um the final season and I can't remember
00:47:47
where cesley was and they were letting me do every [ __ ] thing and I was having a ball and it was interesting
00:47:54
because I didn't real so we were also in covid times and so the world was still shut down but we were back in studio not
00:47:59
the at home episodes right and I remember getting really upset because I wanted to do this update that kept
00:48:05
killing and I kept going it's me as myself talking about dating in dating
00:48:11
current current dating we don't have a dating representative and we still don't have a dating correspondent on the show and I want to talk about it and that's
00:48:18
my third season so all these seasons ago and it killed right I wrote it on my own killed they had someone else more Junior
00:48:25
to meet do a thing that didn't kill that then went on to dress or maybe made to
00:48:30
Air and didn't kill okay they're like wait your turn we're trying to give this person a shot I go okay not how it
00:48:36
worked for me but that's fine salute right that's fine um then I go okay now
00:48:44
this piece could live again this is feels topical maybe it was like Valentine's Day I don't know but I go okay I'm gonna submit it again hard to
00:48:50
do because they've already heard these jokes this whole table read audience right but I go one thing about me guys
00:48:57
if I'm going to submit a resubmit a sketch I want you to know and writers who have to work with me on this I I'm
00:49:04
sure detest me but I go we're rewriting the whole thing every joke is brand new
00:49:09
really oh really yes I do not believe it and so I'm not let me be honest I'm not
00:49:15
resubmitting a ton because of that because I go unless we're going to be really rewriting it and listen if it
00:49:21
makes it to dress let's take it back to the original one but we have to earn these laughs at table and make people go
00:49:27
oh this is funny again um I have a story about a resubmit a couple of them but this is one but that dating piece I
00:49:33
ended up rewriting kept my like strongest two jokes but I was like great I'll give you
00:49:38
more I'll give you more I'll give you different jokes I really want to do this piece I believe in this piece I believe people will enjoy this um it kills at
00:49:46
table again like kills harder the second time um and they don't they they aren't
00:49:53
picking it but I sense because I also know how it's I can I have like a third eye I'm like people keep I was shooting
00:50:00
a pre-tape that was me Centric in a me piece and they go I somebody was like
00:50:05
how's the tape going on a Friday go no one's ever texted me about how pre-tape is going I was like hm and then someone
00:50:12
else was like one are you back at 30 Rock and I was like some they must have had a meeting about how we're not going
00:50:18
to do that update and they know I am G to speak up about it oh yeah and I go
00:50:25
and everyone's doing a little temperature check before I get to 30 Rock and I go mhm you really are
00:50:33
perceptive I am I have to say I was like there's a little I was like this is weird I how's the tape going I was like
00:50:40
I've never what's going on so sure enough they were not going to let me do
00:50:45
the update and they sure enough were doing a temperature check and it was like because it was crass it's very
00:50:52
crass and I guess and it was sort of like we that's why yes it was pretty
00:50:58
crass and it was like if you do it as a character but as ago we don't want necessarily ago telling those jokes but
00:51:06
the character could tell those jokes and I go is not crash AO is not crash but
00:51:12
here's the thing yes she is here's the thing here's the thing yes she is if you
00:51:18
this it's sort of like that Comedy Bang Bang thing where I'm like that's a podcast I what I love about that podcast
00:51:25
and when I started doing it was before SNL and randomly because someone I know how to drop out and they recommended me
00:51:31
and now it's a thing I do no one knows what I look like the first time I do that I was the first episode was like
00:51:37
Sarah Silverman no one knows what I look like they don't know if I'm put together or not they don't know anything about me they don't know me from Adam I get to be
00:51:42
as insane as I want and do the kind of characters that I enjoy doing but
00:51:47
similar to that update situation was like if as a character maybe but not not
00:51:53
our ego telling jokes like that and I'm like did you switch it no I never did it because I was like
00:52:01
I never did it and I I because I was like I don't really
00:52:06
want I don't I don't want to do it that way I don't want to do it as a character I don't even know what that character
00:52:13
would be frankly if I'm honest and so I'm like I don't even know what that is but Mikey and I had this like great
00:52:19
sketch last season that we we wrote once it killed at table kill I won't say did
00:52:25
really really well at table it's different different energy than I played at the show and then the host pulled a
00:52:31
sort of like I don't know what I'm doing and so great it goes away and so it made it to dress and then
00:52:39
it goes away um even though it did pretty well addressed and then we re wrote it we resubmit it right they were
00:52:44
like you should bring it back we love that character for you and we resubmit it and I was like I did that thing I do
00:52:50
where I go oh honey it's not only done well at table and played at table it's gone to dress we have to rewrite this
00:52:57
sketch it can still be the same but every joke is going to be different my name is a different joke everything's
00:53:02
different and it killed harder the second time at table read so they've this this group of people have already
00:53:08
seen it at table seen it at dress seen it at run through seen it at blocking and it kills harder with this rewrite
00:53:14
and Steve Higgins one of the producers of the show comes up to me and Mikey and was like I think that's the first time
00:53:19
I've ever seen a Rite be better at table but that's my rule though I'm sort of
00:53:25
like I don't take anything for GR gred I don't think I don't know that I'm I
00:53:30
think there are people this is is this right to say h whatever that get like gratuitous laughs at table like I do
00:53:38
think there are people that get gratuitous laughs and I'm like I am favorites there are and I'm not assuming
00:53:46
I'm one and so I'm like we have to rewrite if we are going to be resubmitting something let's not expect
00:53:53
that people are going to go oh love that and I'm like when I so people going here we go again is that is that kind of it's
00:54:00
because well no it's not even the IR roll yes the ey roll but I'm like they're not going to laugh they're not gonna laugh they already heard it and
00:54:07
even if they like me and are in theory rooting for me to to to any extent twice
00:54:12
you're right it's hard to legitimately naturally laugh twice you can but it cannot do what it did I don't I don't
00:54:18
think and the host sees that the new host and goes did that do that good you
00:54:24
know because they're like well and if they say it's a resubmit they go why didn't they want to do it uhhuh exactly
00:54:31
ugly conversation exactly and so I'm like let's take nothing for granted if we're giving an opportunity to read it
00:54:37
again let's not assume the room's going to be kind and warm about it because they're rooting for us to get to do it
00:54:42
again let's let's not assume the host is going to be someone they can convince to do something that did okay at table and
00:54:49
so I've had when it's time to resubmit things I do I have had writers just kind of be like this [ __ ] wants to rewrite
00:54:57
this [ __ ] this [ __ ] wants to rewrite the [ __ ] sketch I'm like but we read it we read it um if if it's something we
00:55:04
haven't read I'm like yeah let's just check let's do a casual check for the jokes but I'm like if we read it already
00:55:09
we got to rewrite it and so um that I some have said some who I remember my
00:55:17
second season being like do I need to like work harder what's the deal taking a meeting with a producer and they were
00:55:23
like no one here thinks you need to work hard you well that that's showing you're
00:55:29
grinding because the fact you don't need to do that and sometimes it just buzzes
00:55:34
through without big laughs but they go we're going to try it again but you're actually trying to earn some more laughs
00:55:39
from it is yeah commendable still the puzzle we all play with and it doesn't matter where you're at in your life or
00:55:46
or career if you're a comedian how do you set up the exposition land the laugh
00:55:52
have it the escalatory get out of that big laugh have it have performance have it have the going full circle just that
00:56:00
table moving and I always say funny with the SoundOff guy in a bar looks up and would
00:56:06
laugh because it keeps getting to the point of ridiculousness and every no one at the table's going what the [ __ ]
00:56:12
with the steak and getting up and walking away yeah I mean they don't say anything and the tension of that is just
00:56:19
Lous you to laugh so hard and of course your character is the driving force of
00:56:25
that sketch but anyway so that's all you could do if it's your first season seven season just try to solve the puzzle and
00:56:31
just make it funnier tread water stay yeah it was really cool that that experience was so special because I had
00:56:38
been like by that time in the season too just kind of honey I don't know what
00:56:43
they want from me at this point because Lauren does a thing too where he's like new move we we've seen you do that
00:56:49
before like so I want to see you do something different so you start to be like well this is my comedic voice right
00:56:56
like this is my voice these are the kinds of people I think are funny and you're telling me like before seasons's
00:57:03
in like something else and I'm like oh okay um but it's funny because I don't
00:57:09
think Lisa is some Grand departure from what I've done previously but there's this physicality to it but um yeah it's
00:57:16
uh that one was by that time in the season I was sort of like I don't honey I don't know what they want and I'm at a
00:57:23
loss and so when I did when Alex and Gary said they had this piece for me I would have like I said normally been
00:57:29
like and where does it go from let's actually talk this through but I was like if these these dudes think they
00:57:35
have a piece great I'm gonna let them go off and write it because I write as well some too and so I sometimes want to get
00:57:42
in there and I'm like listen it's I'm G to this is their baby but then once we got to when was it like the cuz we're
00:57:50
black I've seen people go like uh did you improvise that I improvised it not on Aaron not at dress rehearsal
00:57:56
I think on Friday at blocking or something I was like I feel like she should say something right here it's actually kind of funny if she says cuz
00:58:02
we're black given the only other black person here is Punky and the person who's approached them is black um uh and
00:58:09
then there were these moments that I was like I think this needs a line here or she should say this so then it became
00:58:14
collaborative on the back end which was really cool and I hadn't really had that experience yet where it's like yes you
00:58:20
wrote this for me and it's such a gift and now we both get to meld our minds at
00:58:26
this stage of the process where it's okay it's in the show at least to dress let's try to like make it as as good as
00:58:32
we can and here's my thoughts as the person performing maybe she says this as well maybe she does this um in the Real
00:58:40
Performance I had a lot of Joy because I did I just had no expectations of it so two when I think about like if it had
00:58:45
moved up in the night right if it had killed it dressing and it's second of the night or something like that how
00:58:52
free of a performer would I have been in that regard I did not expect to do the sketch so when I hurried and put on my
00:58:57
clothes to do that you're like what's this one again yes legitimately I was like I've kind of started to block it out of my head and scrub it from my
00:59:04
memory because it was such a flop but then I put on the the writers didn't even get to find me to tell me they like
00:59:10
cut out a whole middle of the sketch so there's a moment where I like pause there's a moment of air if you're really
00:59:15
paying attention in it and it's someone else was supposed to have a line in the original version but in the like last
00:59:20
minute you guys are doing it we and you need to cut out X number of pages they cut out this whole chunk and then I
00:59:26
realized like okay yeah they never came to tell me if anything was cut out and I was like I heard silence for a little longer than I wanted and I was like oh
00:59:33
and then I improvised what what and then said my line but um I was free in that
00:59:38
performance because I was like I had no expectation at this point when the Stak fell that was imp like I didn't they
00:59:44
gave me the hardest steak they'd given yet I genuinely couldn't cut through it and it fell so then I was like what do I
00:59:49
do I guess I'll pick it up with my fingers and suck on it cuz I know I have a line about how good it tastes but I haven't been able to cut off a piece oh
00:59:55
yeah all these moments the chair Falls and because Pedro is so warm
01:00:00
and uh just a you you feel connected to him I was like I think I can put my leg
01:00:05
on my foot on him if it had been a host who was kind of off like standoffish I don't know that I would have felt
01:00:11
comfortable doing that but um yeah all the pieces it's kind of magical and then you do want to replicate something like
01:00:18
that right and have another Lisa thing you're chasing yeah but she can't it
01:00:23
doesn't work that way it does didn't see that one coming out was out of the blue yeah yeah but that makes every week kind
01:00:29
of fun because someone might write and if someone writes for you that's a gift too just someone huge hug if they seek
01:00:35
you out after the sketch if there's time during the commercial break it's kind of nice if you collaborate with a writer
01:00:41
and you're both kind of celebrating just for a second yeah it's really nice that's a that's a very sweet moment each
01:00:48
time where you go oh my goodness we did it we did something together and it worked and then you hope but what's sick
01:00:54
about it is that then you go all right Tuesday writing night is a couple days away and you go to work on Monday and
01:01:00
kind of what you did on Saturday means nothing nothing I know it just over tissue in a fireplace just what do you
01:01:08
got this week literally and now you go what about last week was so
01:01:16
good God we've learned so much about SNL we do want to ask about your new podcast because thanks Dad it's out now this
01:01:24
week it's out it's out it's out there are several thanks Dad it is out
01:01:30
wherever people get their podcast I'm having I was raised by a single mom I don't have a relationship with my dad as
01:01:37
I say I'm not gonna have one with him because turns out he died last summer guys so um which is okay and and Dana is
01:01:45
giving me thumbs up no I that was the funniest thing I've ever seen somehow
01:01:50
there's a THB like unreal just I'm so sorry and then worst possible time my dad is dead
01:01:58
and Dana's Emoji thumbs up thumbs up came up and it was completely un we love
01:02:05
a dead dad but no thanks Dad so this is a podcast working through these issues or it's
01:02:11
what is it's not even it's well I basically invite guests to be my dad for the day and I get to ask them questions
01:02:16
I've always want to ask a dad and so things like how do I know if the guy I'm dating is the right one for me what do I
01:02:22
look out for when I'm buying a car um tell me about in like buying property
01:02:28
what what's what's what are some tips you have in that regard and so they give me dad advice I get to hear about my
01:02:34
guests as fathers themselves or parents themselves and I get to then hear what
01:02:39
um their dads were like and so we have this lovely vulnerable fun conversation but it's it's it's light it's light it's
01:02:46
vulnerable it's fun it's all the things I feel Mikey's episode which is out in
01:02:52
the world starts with him saying I didn't realize you didn't have a relationship with your dad and I'm like
01:02:58
yeah I don't really seem like a girl who doesn't have a dad and so I'm trying to and then he's like well what is that
01:03:04
what does that mean to seem like a girl who doesn't have a dad and I go you know you know that's why you thought I had a
01:03:10
dad and so it's fun we're having a good time we're having a good time yeah but
01:03:17
Adam P is was on your show but you also do you're also in that show with Mr throwback right yes Mr throwback with
01:03:24
Adam P Steph Curry um it's on peacock Aiden my yeah a bunch
01:03:29
of really great people um C who I know a little bit yeah he's true Angel the creators are so fun so funny um the
01:03:37
liman brothers Matthew and Daniel it was a dream that was so much fun and that
01:03:42
there was some improv on there very passionate about improv over here true nerd I i' I'm introducing improv to the
01:03:49
Baltimore City School curriculum by way of my high school high school um Spanish
01:03:55
teacher and so I don't Ian I love it too and I don't even a little bit of it I don't think anything beats the performer
01:04:02
discovering something new live and real time and improv allows that so they're taking it's popping in your head I'm
01:04:08
gonna do this trick when you see a good improv it's like that's what U Brando did he broke down the whole thing he
01:04:14
didn't want to know the script he put it in the ceiling or in an orange or he just get it at that moment just to get
01:04:20
in The Godfather I can't remember he had he had the script everywhere I think he
01:04:25
was but uh that's I love improv and I think
01:04:31
just a little bit of it when that uh sketches turn a little Lively something happens or people are a little playful
01:04:38
it kind of does all that but it's like trying to catch the wind that's what I
01:04:43
say you are you're a blast to talk to thanks for talking us us so smart and
01:04:49
such inside baseball no one has given us uh we've had these great guests you've
01:04:54
been the most detailed about the emotional ride and the logistical ride of that show so pretty talk to it's fun
01:05:02
it's like I it's thrown back there I was thrown back I wanted to thank you both so much for having me on I wanted to ask
01:05:09
you so many questions about your time and now I'm gonna have to force you to get dinner with me or a drink and be my
01:05:17
dad's guys I don't have a dad so um maybe I'll be your dad oh Dana you know
01:05:24
Dana's answer to that thumbs up dead Dad we love that hey yeah uh how do you know
01:05:30
if the guy you're dating is the one is that yes yeah that's your first dinner question that's the first dinner
01:05:36
question you can think on it and get back to me but it yeah turns out well if I come visit Dana I'll come visit you
01:05:43
too sense of humor uh kindness kindness kindness is key smart sense of humor and
01:05:50
kindness okay definitely kindness smart sense of humor kindness I'm going to write it down thank you
01:05:56
I'm go and it's very nice to meet you great pleasure and I will see you soon I'll
01:06:02
put it that Dan will see you okay see you soon okay byebye this has been a
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