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Hello friends and welcome to Runners
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only with dom Harvey very exciting today
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on the show Camille buscomb she's a 5
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000 meter Runner 10 000 meter Runner
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she's been to the Olympics she's been to
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the Commonwealth Games and she's awesome
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I'm pretty much running six days a week
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probably between 45 minutes to an hour
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15. what did your Midwife say like did
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you you obviously ask the questions
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about how much training is safe and how
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much you can do yeah so they said they
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basically said because I've done so much
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before I'm basically already cutting it
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back so much like I already am doing
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less than half of what I used to do I
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know you're going to enjoy this one
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hey
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Runners only with dom Harvey and Camille
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buscom hello hi how's it going it's
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going good I'm sitting in your kitchen
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with you and you're you're sitting in
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front of me and you're you're pregnant
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and you're glowing we need when are you
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due
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um due the 3rd of June so what are we
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now how far away is that from now so I'm
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10 weeks tomorrow right so 30 weeks
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tomorrow so you're in your third
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trimester yep yep and the funny thing is
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if you and me hit the track right now
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you'd probably still take me
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um over 10 000 meters and even let me a
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couple of times I reckon definitely not
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laughing you no I I my Paces have slowed
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down quite dramatically yeah have they
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what would you what would you do 10 000
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meters in there oh like I usually run
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around five minute case so oh is that
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right like 50 minutes I might be able to
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run faster if I would try it on track
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but in my general running around like
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450 to like 5 10 posts yeah just at the
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moment yeah right right how much running
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have you been doing
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um I'm pretty much running six days a
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week
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Essence a bit about January I've been
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able to run
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um yeah six days a week probably between
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45 minutes to an hour 15. so like yeah
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like 50 60 70ks a week right yeah yeah
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and what did you did you um what did
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your Midwife say like did you you
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obviously asked the questions about how
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much training is safe and how much you
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can do yeah so they said they basically
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said because I've done so much before
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I'm basically already cutting it back so
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much like I already am doing less than
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half of what I used to do so they said
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like you it's actually good to keep fit
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um it's good for your uh like body
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basically to keep it keep running as
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much as you can and you'll know like
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when you can't basically yeah so so the
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running you're doing now like um
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I I suppose that what you'd call when
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you're in a training cycle like junk
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miles or whatever yeah
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um is this like for you just sort of for
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your physical and mental health really
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yeah it's like it's not really it's not
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really keeping you keeping your match
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fit so to speak yeah it's I guess the
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idea is to try and stay as
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fit as possible so that afterwards
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you're not as far behind basically as I
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say if I just didn't run for ages
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um and also it helps with injury
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prevention afterwards so because if you
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just don't run for months on in your
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tendons and everything don't like it and
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it's good just to keep the load
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um within reason yeah right oh that's
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awesome God you must be so excited about
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um becoming a mum yeah it's it's really
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crazy
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um I guess something we have like we
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thought about
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um but we've almost been so busy at the
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moment that it's only just now starting
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to be like okay this is like a total
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reality yeah you and your partner Cam
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he's a he's an athlete as well and we'll
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get into all that later but did you guys
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sort of like have it mapped out like did
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you think so you're going to miss out on
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the Commonwealth Games which I'm
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guessing you would have been at you but
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have you got fomo about that yeah so I
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guess one of the reasons we sort of
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thought could be a good time because
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covert has played such a big role the
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last couple of years with travel and
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um races and being away
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um and so I sort of thought well what
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happens if this year's another like
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really tough year to travel and really
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tough year to race like 2021 and 2020
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and so we thought well
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um yeah kind of a bit nervously now it's
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happening um so yeah I'm still pretty in
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like I still watch and keep up with
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people's races and
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um yeah I'm super like follow along
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um but I think I think I'm I don't I'm
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not too upset that I'm not there because
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I think next year is going to come
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around really quickly and so I feel like
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I've got a lot of work to do between now
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and then anyway that
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um what's next year so world champion
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okay gotcha and then also qualifying for
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the Paris Olympics will probably be next
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year so it's pretty soon so it's like I
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don't feel
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like I'm missing out too much because
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you've already done a commonwealth games
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haven't you you did the last one in the
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goldie yes I mean it would be good to do
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another one so maybe after Paris we'll
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be good to carry out like carry on and
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do
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um and yeah and do the one and
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um not I should probably know where that
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is are you where is the next one I don't
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know it's in Birmingham later this year
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and then maybe is it in Brisbane I don't
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know I don't know no I was in the goldie
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last time
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you know what they were so good let's
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give them the hosting rights again nice
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I swear I've like heard where it is but
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now I just don't know it's kind of rough
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it being a like a like a female athlete
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that you have to make these decisions
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yeah you know it's kind of It's A Hard a
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hard Choice like if you want to have a
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family you kind of have to I suppose it
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almost try and schedule it in between
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events and stuff yeah it's
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um it's definitely
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I think
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what about it I didn't I didn't about it
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but I like
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almost didn't realize maybe how long a
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year is like it's like it's a long time
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like you're actually pregnant for 10
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months and that's just the pregnancy and
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so that's not even like before or after
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um and so yeah I guess if Cam and I want
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a family I'm kind of the one to do it so
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yeah yeah
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um yeah it's been it's like part of me I
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guess especially before was like oh it's
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such an honor like I'm so much I'm so
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excited that I'm the one that gets to do
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this
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um but maybe like if you'd asked me like
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the first few months I'd have been like
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oh my gosh this is crazy why am I doing
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this but um no like it's really exciting
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but it is quite different on your body
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and it's amazing how
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yeah how I guess not at all but it is
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like I guess not almost harder or almost
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just so different than what I'm used to
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doing like you're not like I'm still
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running it's awesome but I'm like I
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usually would do more than double what
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I'm doing now you you know you're racing
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here you're traveling there you'd so
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there's a lot of time you're not doing
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five little k-paste that's for sure yeah
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like five minute case is so easy whereas
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now like my goal was to run under five
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minute K's is like a good day like if an
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average run is like 4 59 I'm wrapped and
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it's like it's just different yeah oh my
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God I could beat you yeah
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wouldn't it be here
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heavily pregnant lady I don't know I
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could still say I beat an Olympian
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you'll be like you'll be like oh it
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doesn't make you feel that good
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because there's still a little bit of
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satisfaction yeah
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um yeah wow because um you you missed me
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like a couple of years ago a few years
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ago because you were coming up to
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Auckland and we had a run together yeah
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and I was nervous I was I was tweeting
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that day like
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like almost like an event because I'm
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like I don't know what place this this
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chick's gonna run at but it's going to
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be faster than what my usual Pace says
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and I forget what basically ran maybe
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like four four minute 20K 30k it's not
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it's not like I don't run my easy runs
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particularly fast
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um like if you're doing a long weekend
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right if you do a long weekend run how
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long would it be like 30 K's 25k yeah 25
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to 28 maybe it wasn't a pace do you do
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that
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um often my long run Pace on say a
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Sunday will be a bit quicker than my
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easy run post
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um but you do like 14 to 420 average but
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then in a week like during the week I'll
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say an easy run I might do like 4 30 440
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pace for an easy run just like ticking
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over and that's pretty easy but now
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that's not easy yeah of course not easy
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so what um what sort of places look is
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like comfortable for you like we're
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we're you know so for me I'd say
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it when I get below say four minute 40s
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per kilometer it starts to get like a
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little bit a little bit you know it's a
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little bit yeah what about what is it
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for you like four minutes in terms of
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when I'm running well yeah oh yeah yeah
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um probably like now like for 14 to 420
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is nice right anything under nice yeah
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any I mean but if you're doing like say
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like a run with a progression or a
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pickup in it we like four minute case is
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pretty nice ticking over it
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um but then like when you creep down to
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like 3 40 3 30 that's hard but then on a
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day you're really tired it's not like 4
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30 is still hard sometimes but it just
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it depends on the day and depends on
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what the session is and if and if you're
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trying but I can run pretty comfortably
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around that four minute case in your
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heart rate's pretty low like you feel
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pretty good oh my God yes it took me
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years and years of like dedicated
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training to um do a sub three Marathon I
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ended up doing uh two hours 57 in Tokyo
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a few years ago you could you could fart
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out a sub three marathon on a Sunday
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morning training run couldn't you
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realistically I guess there's three
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hours for 15 Pace yeah yeah yeah I mean
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yeah I don't know
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it's still as hardcore it's long it's
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long like I don't do many long like I
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wouldn't really go much over two hours
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I've done a lot of runs like in the past
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like I've done two and a half hours two
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hours 40 whatever but I haven't really
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done like it's still a long time and
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it's still a long time and on your legs
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so it wouldn't be easy but like yeah I
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guess like I would hopefully yeah run
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hopefully cook it but I'm in a train
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full time and
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um that's kind of what I've done for
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like 20 something years you know you
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don't need to download it you know how
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much of um how much of what you do is
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like natural Talent like when did you
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realize you were quite good at running
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like was that as a kid yeah I've done it
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since I was a kid
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um when I was a kid I had so much energy
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like I did every sport I like yeah and
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so running was something that I could do
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because I had a lot of energy I was
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really competitive and it was something
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that
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um I guess over time I also got better
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at
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um and so I think there was a
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combination of talent but also a
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combination of like the work ethic that
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I like kind of fitted a kind of molded
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really well I did team sports and stuff
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but again it was nice to do something
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that you could kind of control or you
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could basically if you put in more
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effort you could do better and I quite
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liked that so that's kind of how I think
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I started so what's it what sort of age
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what age did you sort of abandon and
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team sports and other sports and just
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focus on running probably when I was
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made
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right I was doing netball and basketball
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as well
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Athletics I went to World youth I think
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when I was about 16 and so from then on
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I didn't do a lot of other Sports World
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youth games okay so you must have been
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really really good so I went towards
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Houston when I was 16. yeah yeah in the
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Czech Republic and then
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yes I've always been quite yeah and I
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would do like Nationals and I've won a
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lot of national titles when I was
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younger like even like third form four
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form yeah so from then on I've been
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pretty like dedicated to to Athletics
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um it sounds like such a long time we
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need to when you talk about it this year
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it is how old are you now Psalm 31 31
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right for you yes it's over half your
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life
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they're very different parts I used to
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play rugby at school but I abandoned
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team sports for running because I was so
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uncoordinated I just got sick of living
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a team down yeah like I'm trying my best
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yeah and um at the school I went to
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Palmerston North boys so if you join the
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harriers team and you do all the
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training and do everything you got to go
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on a couple of trips each year you got
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to go to the New Zealand security
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schools cross country and the New
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Zealand secondary schools road race and
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um I I think I was um I was like a stain
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on the boys high Harry this time like
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most of the guys finished in the top 20
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and I was sort of like back into the
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field but I trained really had yeah I
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always did all the training but I just
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wasn't very quick I think the day I gave
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up I think the um the coach of the team
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I you know as I walked away from his
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office I think I could hear him popping
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champagne course
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yes we got rid of it so
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um so when you leave school you did you
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ever have a job you got a university
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scholarship in the states have you ever
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had a real job yes I've done bits and
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pieces
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um I have done waitressing I did like
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coffee like in coffee shops I worked the
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first one of my first jobs when I met
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cam was it a pawn broker and he
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obviously didn't understand that
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yeah
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it was like it was literally called Fast
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Money yeah oh my God so people would
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bring in like um
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yeah yeah and then you'd like you'd like
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give the money for it and then they'd
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come back like a week later and buy it
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back off you things like that because
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like you could also like loan them out
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and so yeah you must have seen some
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desperate people because people aren't
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going to like a pawn broker in this yeah
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it's a gambling dead or yeah so a lot of
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people
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um I think would come and they'd warn
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off say like they used to do the set
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they'd sell the same but sell off the
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same thing every week or like every
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month I'd come and bring their TV in and
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say the Monday and then come pick it up
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on a Wednesday when they got paid or
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when they otherwise right just tried
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them over so so so they're bringing the
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TV you'd give them for argument's sake
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like 100 bucks yeah and then when they
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came and pick it up they pay the same
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120 bucks or something or maybe more
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like it was crazy I was like you're
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really losing a lot of money here yeah
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I was like in the in the process of a
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month I've lost like a hundred dollars
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more because you're paying back the the
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like interest or whatever yeah if you're
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if you're yeah if you're getting 100
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bucks and then paying 120 that's like a
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20 loan yeah maybe it was it was a lot I
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remember thinking it was alarm that porn
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off like even like wedding rings and it
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was and it was very eye-opening
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um and I was pretty young but it was it
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was quite a cool I actually liked the
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job
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um uh yeah it was just different
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um it was different
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um yeah all the people that I just had
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hard lives and stuff would come in and
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um yeah yeah that's hot yeah
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sad yeah but
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um and I didn't yeah a lot of work
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quests um in different cafes either as a
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waitress or a restaurant or just on the
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coffee machine which I rather the coffee
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stuff because she's standing rather than
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walking around carrying his plates and
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stuff
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um such hard work it makes sick so much
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of you literally like running between
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tables for like seven hours straight and
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then they're like okay cool pack up now
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we want you out of here in 10 minutes do
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everything and I'm like man this is such
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hard work yeah
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um so when did you when did you manage
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to like be able to stop having a job
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um I went more full-time
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um only when I was about 26 right yeah
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oh wow yeah so I've always worked
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part-time quite a bit yeah on the side
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or yes you picked the wrong sport to be
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talented at didn't you yeah
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I mean kids do it no no it's not like
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super lucrative so so the um the
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American scholarship thing so how did
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that come back so it seems like there's
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quite a few talented kiwis that end up
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um in the States on on scholarships like
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how do you get on the radar from being
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like at the world youth games yeah yeah
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so I think I got approached by quite a
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lot of
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um colleges after that
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um so I think I was in either fifth or
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sixth form
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and but I didn't really know what I
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wanted to do
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um and so you get a lot of letters they
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used to just send like posts in the post
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or like I don't think email was around a
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huge amount
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um and yeah and so I think I didn't
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really know what I wanted to do I didn't
00:17:08
know if I wanted to do athletics if I
00:17:10
wanted to I did want to do athletics but
00:17:13
I feel like I was going through just a
00:17:14
bit of a tough time with my
00:17:16
um running afterward use and I also
00:17:19
really were liked fashion design and um
00:17:21
I taught both my and at some heaters we
00:17:24
had like this fashion course and so I
00:17:26
topped both my years
00:17:28
um and done like where I like helped run
00:17:30
the wearable art show and stuff and so I
00:17:33
was like oh it'll be really cool to
00:17:34
follow this path or there was like you
00:17:36
could go to school there was a school
00:17:37
fashion School Milan
00:17:39
um and but then in the end I'd got
00:17:42
offered different Scholarships in
00:17:44
America and I kind of just went down a
00:17:47
path not really knowing what school or
00:17:49
why I kind of just turned up
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um there was a I think I could have
00:17:54
thought a lot more about what school I
00:17:56
wanted to go to yeah and I think
00:18:00
um where did you end up with Chicago or
00:18:02
somewhere yeah so in the midwest it's
00:18:04
like it was it was called Purdue
00:18:06
University like really frustrated me and
00:18:08
I wanted to come home to train harder
00:18:10
because I didn't feel like I was doing
00:18:12
enough training to get better oh because
00:18:14
I suppose that's why you you accept one
00:18:16
of these scholarships because you know
00:18:18
say if you're Samuel Tanner you want to
00:18:20
be surrounded by other dudes that are
00:18:21
running four minute miles yeah were you
00:18:23
just that much better than well because
00:18:24
it's all that I went to wasn't great oh
00:18:26
okay and the team wasn't great and in
00:18:30
hindsight
00:18:31
I didn't yeah I just didn't pick very
00:18:34
well and you there wasn't a lot of
00:18:35
knowledge around yeah near defense you
00:18:38
are very fast yeah you are going to make
00:18:41
people around you seem slow but there
00:18:43
was different I could have done better
00:18:45
over there I think if I'd been in a
00:18:46
different but then I would have had a
00:18:48
different path I I mean yeah so I don't
00:18:51
have any regrets it was just
00:18:54
um
00:18:54
yeah it was almost like it allowed me to
00:18:57
realize I wanted to run kind of myself
00:18:59
yeah um rather than rather than oh this
00:19:02
is like what you're supposed to do
00:19:03
because you've always run it was like oh
00:19:05
actually like I want to come home I want
00:19:07
to dedicate myself I want to do it
00:19:08
myself
00:19:10
um and I want to make some like World
00:19:13
teams so yeah it was it was like it was
00:19:16
good because of that reason
00:19:18
um maybe if I'd gone to another school
00:19:20
and they'd pushed me too hard I wouldn't
00:19:21
have liked that so I don't know
00:19:23
um so so what does the scholarship mean
00:19:25
exactly like what are you what do you
00:19:26
get you get some money or they just pay
00:19:28
for your fees and accommodation or yeah
00:19:31
so I think I don't 100 know but I think
00:19:35
they I don't think they pay your flights
00:19:37
over they pay your college fees which
00:19:40
are really expensive
00:19:42
um in America especially like that's so
00:19:43
much more expensive than in New Zealand
00:19:45
well you see on like American sitcoms as
00:19:49
soon as the kids born your parents start
00:19:50
safe yeah it's so much money
00:19:53
um and then in if you live on campus
00:19:56
they just cover your they give you like
00:19:59
a allowance for food that you go to the
00:20:03
dining halls and then they also cover
00:20:04
your accommodation but if you
00:20:08
um are off campus they then give you an
00:20:11
amount of money per month and you can
00:20:13
like pay for it yourself which is what I
00:20:15
ended up doing which was way better
00:20:17
um but it was it's definitely like a
00:20:19
comfortable like it's enough they if
00:20:21
they give you enough to live on yeah and
00:20:22
cover it so it's pretty cool like
00:20:25
it's a great deal like aside from the
00:20:27
running did you enjoy the The Experience
00:20:29
like did you get to join like a
00:20:31
fraternity or a friend house
00:20:33
yeah yeah no I didn't they were pretty
00:20:36
they were still pretty focused like you
00:20:38
still pretty strict around what you
00:20:40
could and couldn't do but you go you
00:20:41
could go to like parties and
00:20:43
um but you you got to travel quite a bit
00:20:45
with races and they'd cover all that and
00:20:47
then I'd give you a per diem to cover
00:20:49
food like such a good gig like when you
00:20:51
think about it it's
00:20:53
um I don't know I think I I think I got
00:20:55
an offer from I'm pretty sure it was
00:20:57
from Harvard but I didn't even I didn't
00:20:59
even know what that was back then and in
00:21:01
hindsight you're like you're such an
00:21:03
idiot but anyway yeah
00:21:05
Harvard and it's like you don't think
00:21:07
about it when you're 16 17 you don't
00:21:10
even know what uni is like you just live
00:21:12
your life and then you realize yeah so I
00:21:15
mean hopefully I can pass on some
00:21:17
knowledge to maybe our girl I don't know
00:21:19
like yeah absolutely a few other people
00:21:21
yeah and what were you what were your
00:21:22
parents like at the time like that's a
00:21:24
big caller you know your teenage
00:21:25
daughter moving to the other side of the
00:21:28
world I've always been really
00:21:29
independent and I think they yeah that I
00:21:34
I wanted to probably almost leave home
00:21:35
earlier like I've always felt really
00:21:37
independent and by the age of 18 I just
00:21:39
needed to get like get out of New
00:21:41
Zealand it's like figure out myself
00:21:42
figure out my life like I felt so I'm
00:21:45
sure like so immature I don't think I
00:21:48
was homesick like at all it was crazy I
00:21:51
I don't know I literally knew no one and
00:21:53
do you think that's because home fears
00:21:55
Hamilton yeah
00:21:56
yeah that's mean but it was actually
00:21:59
Cambridge yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah
00:22:03
um yeah wow and then so you said it was
00:22:06
an engineering what were you studying
00:22:07
you weren't doing anything I did I did
00:22:10
um a change Majors about every week so I
00:22:12
don't know yeah I literally did
00:22:14
everything I literally went from like
00:22:17
um I think I started with like some sort
00:22:20
of science like you know maybe
00:22:24
Sports Science and then I would change
00:22:25
to history and then I went to Classics
00:22:28
and then I tried to change the fashion
00:22:30
and then I changed I don't know I ended
00:22:32
up with psych so I ended up doing
00:22:33
psychology yeah so I then finished my
00:22:36
psych degree when I came back to New
00:22:38
Zealand that's kind of what I figured
00:22:40
out that I wanted to do so you've got a
00:22:41
psych degree just an undergrad though so
00:22:43
Bachelor Arts with psych major yeah what
00:22:45
does that mean what can you do with that
00:22:46
post-runner
00:22:48
I've enrolled and drawn from my honors
00:22:52
about three or four times now since then
00:22:55
like because with with my with being
00:22:57
away a lot with Athletics and racing
00:23:00
um it's you have to get really good
00:23:02
grades you have to be
00:23:04
um really focused and have the ability
00:23:06
basically to spend the time to learn
00:23:08
what you need to learn and so it's
00:23:10
something I've I keep kind of putting
00:23:13
off because I realize it's like okay
00:23:15
you've actually got World Champs or
00:23:16
you've got the Olympics you can't and
00:23:17
I'll try and start studying and then I I
00:23:20
just think this is way too much I can't
00:23:22
like I can't do it and so it's yeah I'm
00:23:25
hoping to do it you'll get back in the
00:23:27
zone though like when you're on the
00:23:27
right headspace I'm sure you'll do it
00:23:29
yeah I mean you'll be good you'll be
00:23:30
good at whatever you do right I don't
00:23:32
know yeah I enrolled this year as well
00:23:35
and I thought I was like yeah what I can
00:23:37
do is I can train part-time study
00:23:39
full-time and have a baby and then I
00:23:41
withdrew yeah classic yeah I realized
00:23:44
there's actually that was a little too
00:23:45
much yeah yeah so so you're in your you
00:23:48
and your baby daddy
00:23:51
we're supposed to get married in January
00:23:54
but then with all the rules and
00:23:55
restrictions from covert we were like no
00:23:57
it's not going to be anywhere near like
00:23:58
the wedding we had wanted and so we're
00:24:01
hopefully in January next year right I
00:24:03
just saw your ring geez good money and
00:24:05
hurt like yeah not good money
00:24:08
um where did you guys meet did you meet
00:24:10
just through your respective Sports yeah
00:24:12
yeah we met
00:24:15
um we're in Hamilton at Ford Stadium no
00:24:18
it sounds so lame no we meet at it um in
00:24:22
like a gym class or something but he
00:24:24
doesn't remember so I was obviously not
00:24:27
memorable
00:24:28
um it was early in the morning and I
00:24:29
think I was going for a run and he we
00:24:31
met and then I saw him again like two
00:24:34
days later at the track and I was just
00:24:36
like hey remember me like I and he's
00:24:39
like yeah and he didn't and I said it
00:24:43
just stuck with me and I was like one of
00:24:45
these guys like what the heck he just
00:24:47
had no recollection and I was like oh
00:24:49
wow I didn't make a very good impression
00:24:52
um what was it like
00:24:53
um infatuation at first sight or
00:24:55
something like were you really taken by
00:24:56
him no I don't know we we like maybe but
00:25:00
also
00:25:01
no I just remember thinking he just it
00:25:03
just stood out because I was like wow
00:25:04
this guy's like
00:25:06
I don't know it was kind of good though
00:25:08
it was like refreshing because it was
00:25:09
sometimes it's not nice if someone's
00:25:12
like really into you because you feel
00:25:13
like what like I don't know yeah
00:25:17
just get away but he seems like he
00:25:19
wasn't he was like played it so cool
00:25:21
nonchalant so like yeah he just like
00:25:24
played it so cool that it was like it
00:25:25
kept me being more intrigued I think
00:25:28
um and so I wasn't like didn't want a
00:25:31
relationship or anything and so like it
00:25:33
ended up being quite a good person and
00:25:36
then over time I realized I liked him
00:25:38
enough to say that and then it sort of
00:25:41
it was very slow we've been together
00:25:43
like 10 years so right but like it's
00:25:46
been fun like we're really good friends
00:25:47
as well
00:25:48
um
00:25:49
yeah and nothing's definitely not forced
00:25:51
or rushed but yeah it's not rushed yeah
00:25:54
it's like the opposite to your running
00:25:56
and your professional lives here so he's
00:25:57
um he's a 400 meter he's got the New
00:25:59
Zealand record I believe yeah 400 meter
00:26:01
hurdle yeah now if I was um I I haven't
00:26:04
done a 400 meters in a long time but I'm
00:26:06
guessing I'm guessing now I'm I'm bloody
00:26:09
old but if I was to go as fast as what I
00:26:11
could on a 400 meter track maybe a
00:26:13
minute five a minute 10. you'd go under
00:26:15
70 yeah yeah but definitely over a
00:26:18
minute I couldn't break it now your your
00:26:20
fiance cam what what's his record the
00:26:22
New Zealand record for 400 meters with
00:26:24
hurdles yeah so he's done 49 33 I think
00:26:28
yeah yeah so Speedy that's unbelievable
00:26:31
and sometimes sometimes when I'm at the
00:26:33
track they have the hurdles out they are
00:26:34
so high they are ridiculously high yeah
00:26:38
yeah I I don't even think I've tried to
00:26:40
jump one um
00:26:43
yeah I could go under there there he
00:26:46
goes and um he's not doing he's retired
00:26:48
from that he's what's he doing now so
00:26:50
he's just changed to cycling so which is
00:26:54
kind of cool he's
00:26:55
um at the moment
00:26:57
he sort of has like somewhat joined the
00:27:00
New Zealand cycling Sprint team with the
00:27:02
hopes of being on the like the team
00:27:04
Sprint or one of the sprint races for
00:27:06
them either at com games World Champs
00:27:08
next year or this year and hopefully
00:27:10
Paris so he's been doing it for four
00:27:13
months
00:27:14
um and yeah he's absolutely loving it so
00:27:16
he's out of the velodrome every day
00:27:18
training with the guys and they just had
00:27:20
Nationals last week and he got a bronze
00:27:23
in the team Sprint his his team so that
00:27:25
was cool amazing
00:27:27
um no he's and he's absolutely loving it
00:27:28
so it's just yeah we'll just have to see
00:27:30
how the next few months go and if
00:27:32
there's a spot kind of there is a spot
00:27:34
but it's like how much time they can
00:27:36
yeah allow with the transition of oh in
00:27:39
terms of the Commonwealth Games yeah
00:27:41
yeah so there's still a chance it's
00:27:42
pretty soon would you would you be okay
00:27:45
with them going yeah yeah totally with
00:27:47
the baby will be yeah yeah
00:27:49
I originally was like oh that'll be
00:27:51
great I'm gonna come over and watch and
00:27:54
bring it and then I looked at the dates
00:27:56
and I was like she's literally gonna be
00:27:57
like six weeks old or maybe less so I'm
00:27:59
not gonna go and watch yeah but I wanted
00:28:02
to go and watch
00:28:03
um with yeah
00:28:05
would you think it's a bit young I don't
00:28:07
know I thought I originally was oh it'll
00:28:09
be like eight weeks even though that
00:28:12
sounds not that much older but yeah I
00:28:16
just thought yeah but I think six weeks
00:28:18
is a bit young so yeah is it I don't
00:28:20
know Cheryl chick with the Midwife yeah
00:28:23
I wouldn't want to be sitting next to
00:28:25
you on the plane but yeah
00:28:26
I'd say for the baby and then why not we
00:28:30
just have to see but yeah and and at
00:28:32
first I thought I would go and we'll
00:28:34
just we'll just have to see how she's
00:28:35
but in my head she'll be she'll be
00:28:37
she'll just love traveling
00:28:40
she's like all for it yeah the Whole 30
00:28:45
hours yeah
00:28:48
um would that be
00:28:50
I I don't know like what would it be
00:28:52
weird for you being at a commonwealth
00:28:54
games as a spectator or supporter
00:28:57
um
00:28:58
I just thought it'd be cool being there
00:29:00
and like
00:29:01
um obviously my training group would be
00:29:03
there too so it'd be quite cool to see
00:29:04
you run again and watch them and be part
00:29:07
of it
00:29:08
um but yeah maybe it's we'll just I
00:29:10
don't know you won't have to see how it
00:29:12
goes I it's maybe a little bit ambitious
00:29:15
um traveling to the other side of the
00:29:16
world but
00:29:17
um with a very young baby but we'll see
00:29:19
uh it's
00:29:20
I don't know if he makes a team maybe
00:29:22
I'll just end up play it by yeah I'll
00:29:24
just be there I don't know I'll just
00:29:25
turn up and he'll be like what
00:29:26
I'll be like I just booked a flight
00:29:28
yesterday and or could you could you
00:29:30
just like
00:29:31
um Express like 100 liters of milk and
00:29:33
leave it with your mum and dad yeah no
00:29:34
she's got to come with me yeah gotta be
00:29:37
there because cam will be like where why
00:29:39
didn't you bring it with you like yeah
00:29:40
nah someone was yeah but I'm hoping she
00:29:43
can do quite a lot of travel
00:29:45
um again see how she is but I'm kind of
00:29:48
hoping that she's gonna like the
00:29:50
lifestyle I don't know I mean the sort
00:29:53
of training the sort of training you do
00:29:55
on the track I suppose you could just
00:29:56
bring her and just leave her and leave
00:29:57
her in a seat inside of her yeah I've
00:29:59
seen people do it before
00:30:01
um yeah I mean obviously not yeah we'll
00:30:04
just I don't know I don't know how it's
00:30:06
gonna work yeah sure in my head I think
00:30:08
it can work and you might I might need a
00:30:10
little bit of help here in that like
00:30:12
babysit that
00:30:14
um got to treat everyone at home so I
00:30:16
can do a bit of training on that and
00:30:17
then um when she's a bit older I think
00:30:19
you can run with them as well maybe on
00:30:21
my easy runs a couple of times a week
00:30:23
I'd do that like in a in a prayer yeah
00:30:27
um maybe on some easy runs and then
00:30:29
maybe like my main sessions a couple of
00:30:32
days a week I'd get about like I'd have
00:30:33
to get someone to help look after her
00:30:35
just so that you can but we'll see oh if
00:30:38
you looked up World Records like fastest
00:30:40
five thousand meters four fastest ten
00:30:42
thousand meters for the Prem oh you
00:30:43
should oh you could get a world record I
00:30:47
have to see what time they are they're
00:30:48
very very fast yeah
00:30:50
you could you no seriously you should do
00:30:52
that would you be interested in that
00:30:53
like a novelty record yeah maybe yeah
00:30:56
you'd Blitz up we'll see I don't even
00:30:58
know what times they are they're
00:30:59
probably really fast yeah who knows
00:31:02
um so you've you've um been to one
00:31:04
Commonwealth Games yeah and one Olympics
00:31:06
as a as a competitor yeah um so the
00:31:09
Commonwealth Games that was on the Gold
00:31:10
Coast a couple of years ago how did how
00:31:11
did you enjoy that experience yeah it
00:31:12
was it was really cool so um although I
00:31:15
didn't like my the race itself didn't
00:31:17
they didn't go that well and so it's
00:31:19
something I've always wanted to go so
00:31:20
what do you mean
00:31:22
um I think well we ended up yeah we
00:31:24
ended up both of us got really sick
00:31:26
straight after so I don't know whether
00:31:30
um I was kind of getting sick at the
00:31:32
time and so I don't know I think like I
00:31:34
seemed really off
00:31:36
um
00:31:36
but I think yeah I just think if I was
00:31:39
to have another opportunity I'd hope
00:31:41
that would go better basically like what
00:31:43
would it what would better look like is
00:31:44
it making the finals is it making a top
00:31:46
five top ten yeah or like maybe
00:31:49
I'd say more like top five right
00:31:51
um a meter would be amazing but I think
00:31:53
more like just it depends we've got a
00:31:55
lot it's hard there's a lot of really
00:31:57
good countries in the Commonwealth um
00:31:59
distance wise and so but yeah like a top
00:32:01
five would be really cool
00:32:03
um needle would be obviously like the
00:32:05
dream
00:32:06
um yeah I don't know we'll just have to
00:32:08
see how the next few years go yeah so
00:32:11
what what time did you do you said uh
00:32:13
you may have had like food poisoning or
00:32:15
something something no I was like we're
00:32:16
getting the I was getting like a flu
00:32:18
like it was yeah so I don't know was
00:32:21
your time like they weren't no so the
00:32:24
race was quite they were like because it
00:32:26
was more tactical it was slower at the
00:32:28
start and then it sort of progressed and
00:32:30
got faster 5000 or the ten thousand both
00:32:32
both yeah they weren't that fast and so
00:32:35
I just I don't know if I wasn't quite
00:32:36
right or I just couldn't pick up the
00:32:38
pace like as the race went on basically
00:32:41
and it's usually something I can do and
00:32:43
so I don't know something just didn't
00:32:45
seem quite right
00:32:47
um whether yeah for whatever reason and
00:32:51
so I would just I yeah I just didn't
00:32:53
really feel like myself didn't have the
00:32:55
best
00:32:57
um I don't know I just didn't really go
00:32:58
how how I thought it was like as a
00:33:02
potentially nerves no I don't know I
00:33:04
think yeah I don't really know it was I
00:33:08
hadn't done I'd only done one other
00:33:10
major championships yeah sometimes I
00:33:12
think I was I got so nervous and so
00:33:16
stressed before
00:33:18
um that kind of since the com games I
00:33:20
tried to be a bit more relaxed and
00:33:23
um basically live a bit more of like a
00:33:27
not fun but kind of like balanced
00:33:30
lifestyle and I think I've run a lot
00:33:32
better since how do you mean in terms of
00:33:33
like nutrition or yeah I was really
00:33:35
strict
00:33:36
um well a lot more strict before the
00:33:39
game before the commonwealth games
00:33:41
um
00:33:41
and I think I just put so much pressure
00:33:44
on myself every day that I don't think I
00:33:48
was yeah I don't know I just think I
00:33:50
couldn't give my best because I was
00:33:52
actually almost too stressed too strict
00:33:55
um and too focused I don't know if that
00:33:57
makes sense but sometimes when you're
00:34:00
not yeah like when you're it depends
00:34:01
what sort of person you are but but for
00:34:03
me like I think I like to be around
00:34:06
people a bit more and have a bit more
00:34:07
fun and
00:34:08
um
00:34:09
and obviously still trying really hard
00:34:11
but it's sort of like the balance and I
00:34:13
just think my balance was not quite
00:34:15
right either and so
00:34:17
um sort of since the com games in 2018 I
00:34:20
was I really tried my best to think how
00:34:24
to basically be better and I actually
00:34:26
thought no I actually can't try any
00:34:28
harder that's not going to answer the
00:34:30
question it's how do I
00:34:32
like live a more balanced lifestyle and
00:34:35
enjoy what I'm doing more and in the end
00:34:37
I started running faster and being able
00:34:39
to push myself more because I almost
00:34:41
hadn't given my all as much during the
00:34:44
week like with training yeah you do give
00:34:46
your all but if but if you've sort of
00:34:48
worn out by the time you get to the
00:34:49
start line you can't give your best in
00:34:51
the start line in the race so it's like
00:34:54
it's just keeping like you've almost got
00:34:56
to keep a little bit for race day
00:34:59
um I don't know that really makes sense
00:35:01
no it makes it makes complete sense I
00:35:04
honestly I can't imagine the I can't
00:35:06
imagine like the nerves or the pressure
00:35:07
like um
00:35:08
I am I I love training and I love
00:35:11
running but um I'll sign up for events
00:35:13
and uh you work towards them and then
00:35:16
sometimes I'll get to the day of the
00:35:17
event and I'll drive to the start line
00:35:19
and I'll be like what the am I
00:35:21
doing like what why am I here I hate
00:35:23
this and then I always feel them the you
00:35:25
know the gun goes and and bear in mind
00:35:27
like I'm I'm like no one gives a
00:35:29
about what I'm doing right it's it's not
00:35:31
on TV you know I'm you know I might be
00:35:35
having to get a personal best but that's
00:35:37
not going to be it's never going to be
00:35:38
like a a win or anything like that I'm
00:35:41
just running for myself so I can't
00:35:42
imagine the pressure of you running for
00:35:45
yourself first of all in an event that
00:35:47
you've trained four years for this one
00:35:49
event but also the pressure of the
00:35:50
nation as well the pressure of high
00:35:52
performance sport whoever else like I I
00:35:55
you do you do you enjoy it or like you
00:35:59
know how you hear some people that say
00:36:00
I'm so excited I just wish it could
00:36:02
start now do you enjoy it or are you
00:36:03
just like full of nerves beforehand no I
00:36:06
think that's something I've sort of
00:36:07
worked on the last few years is actually
00:36:09
like enjoying it yeah it's like this
00:36:11
that I work in the first few years I got
00:36:14
so nervous that it wasn't as enjoyable
00:36:17
and you'd start on the start line and
00:36:18
you actually would be nervous and I'm
00:36:21
still nervous now but I think I have
00:36:24
take I've tried to take the pressure off
00:36:25
a little bit
00:36:27
um
00:36:28
the yeah I've tried to take the pressure
00:36:31
off and almost run and just enjoy it and
00:36:34
like often that's way better and your
00:36:37
body knows what to do you know how to
00:36:38
push yourself you know and if you're
00:36:40
having fun you actually can give way
00:36:42
more and so just enjoying the days
00:36:45
leading into it more and enjoying being
00:36:47
around people and having a bit more fun
00:36:49
beforehand it kind of gets you in a more
00:36:51
relaxed space and so you don't put all
00:36:54
the pressure on the race to be like if I
00:36:57
don't perform think of all these
00:36:58
negative outcomes it's like it's almost
00:37:01
like you it's just another day like it's
00:37:04
just I don't know and I know I still get
00:37:07
nervous but I think it's a more
00:37:09
manageable nerves and it's a more like
00:37:10
enjoyable nerves rather than or you
00:37:13
think we're going to do this tomorrow
00:37:14
and this is happening after the event
00:37:16
and it's more like rather than my whole
00:37:18
life ends after this race it's like it's
00:37:20
not like that yeah yeah yeah yeah it's
00:37:21
like there's going to be another day and
00:37:24
um and this is part of your life and you
00:37:26
do it because you love it right and so I
00:37:28
think that's something thing I really
00:37:30
kind of worked on in the last few years
00:37:32
is just enjoying the process of the race
00:37:35
and being excited to line up and being
00:37:37
excited about like the day of the race
00:37:40
and what your little routine is but it's
00:37:42
like a nice routine you enjoy you like
00:37:44
having a few days easier before the race
00:37:46
of training and rather than oh my
00:37:49
goodness like this is race and you're so
00:37:51
nervous and it's unenjoyable and no I
00:37:54
don't I I don't perform well when I feel
00:37:57
like that yeah
00:38:00
um so these races are generally sort of
00:38:01
evening races aren't they for some
00:38:02
reason so so run us through the day do
00:38:05
you wake up early like no yeah no I try
00:38:08
and sleep in it's like the night before
00:38:10
you have like a nice meal with say
00:38:12
friends or with your training partners
00:38:13
and then you kind of sleep in and then
00:38:15
use your get up have bricky
00:38:19
um maybe shower get like to a point get
00:38:21
a little bit ready and then you go and
00:38:23
have a ShakeOut so you run for like 20
00:38:25
minutes just easy
00:38:27
um have something to eat maybe handled I
00:38:30
usually have like a little lie down just
00:38:31
to relax just for like a little bit just
00:38:33
to unwind and then I don't know get
00:38:37
coffee have a snack or something and
00:38:39
then head to the race the day seems to
00:38:40
go quite quickly but always have a
00:38:43
little bit of a lie down
00:38:44
um sometime in the afternoon just to
00:38:46
relax unwind I wouldn't sleep because I
00:38:49
just can't sleep during the day but just
00:38:51
a bit of time out
00:38:53
um try not to really think about the
00:38:54
race but it's more just the time out and
00:38:57
then um yeah you kind of have a shower
00:38:59
get ready put your like race kit on a
00:39:02
bit of makeup I don't know just kind of
00:39:03
get ready yeah you put the makeup on
00:39:05
just a little bit for the Telly no not
00:39:07
for that I think you just it's like you
00:39:10
feel good yeah you kind of just it's
00:39:12
like if you I don't know yeah it's
00:39:13
almost like that's your event right so
00:39:16
you kind of it's like an event but it's
00:39:18
not a event event it's like a running
00:39:20
event but yeah I don't know usually I'd
00:39:22
like yeah I don't know I don't usually
00:39:25
wear a lot of makeup in general not that
00:39:27
I would put heaps on but yeah yeah I
00:39:29
would wouldn't ever race I don't think
00:39:30
without makeup really
00:39:32
um so the the so the nerves you
00:39:34
experience is that um
00:39:36
is that because you know you're going to
00:39:38
be in a shitstorm of pain or yeah or is
00:39:41
it just expectations because yeah 10 000
00:39:44
meters is probably my least favorite
00:39:46
distance if I um open up my app from my
00:39:48
coach and it's got do a 10K time trial
00:39:50
I'd read it it's horrible like it's 20
00:39:53
just 25 laps to the track anyone that's
00:39:55
trying their hardest even if takes you
00:39:57
now to do 10ks and that's you going your
00:39:59
hardest yeah you're pushing yourself so
00:40:01
for me like the first two or three
00:40:03
hundred meters are okay and then it
00:40:04
starts to hurt and then you're in pain
00:40:06
for however long it takes you it's a
00:40:08
horrible distance
00:40:09
yeah it's it's a I think as well you I
00:40:14
for me you often feel quite tired the
00:40:17
first couple okay and that can be quite
00:40:19
scary because you think how am I this
00:40:21
tired already
00:40:23
um and so it's a bit and then also I
00:40:26
feel like I'm running really fast so you
00:40:29
think the first few laps might feel
00:40:31
quite comfortable
00:40:33
um and they sometimes don't and that can
00:40:35
be make you feel a bit nervous
00:40:37
um but again it's about just switching
00:40:39
off and getting into a rhythm and just
00:40:41
kind of enjoying I don't know that just
00:40:43
sounds weird enjoying the pace enjoying
00:40:45
the race but yeah you have good days and
00:40:47
some you get some bad days and 10K is a
00:40:49
long way to not feel good for you what's
00:40:52
the difference between a good day and a
00:40:53
bad day like are you talking like a 30
00:40:55
second window or is it bigger than that
00:40:57
maybe bigger yeah
00:41:00
um just because if you feel good it's
00:41:03
easier to run within yourself and
00:41:06
feeling positive and just I don't know
00:41:09
you can just get
00:41:11
yeah whereas if you're having a hard day
00:41:13
it's you're just battling
00:41:16
um some days you're really battling a
00:41:18
long way yeah it's not it's not
00:41:20
enjoyable I've had a few days yeah 14ks
00:41:22
they haven't gone that well
00:41:24
um it's a long time out there and you're
00:41:26
in front of like you're really like well
00:41:29
not vulnerable but kind of vulnerable
00:41:30
like you're out there it's not like a
00:41:32
road race so you're kind of half hidden
00:41:34
you're really just on the track and oh
00:41:35
you are and there's a real 25 left yeah
00:41:37
if you're having a real bad day there's
00:41:38
a real chance to be left yeah there's a
00:41:40
lot of laps out there so you've been
00:41:42
have you been lapped before yeah you've
00:41:44
left plenty of people in your time no
00:41:45
I've definitely been lapped yeah I've
00:41:47
been like it's an embarrassing thing or
00:41:49
yeah it doesn't feel great
00:41:51
um yeah
00:41:53
you're not like oh that feels great yeah
00:41:57
for a minute you can continue willing
00:41:59
yeah yeah like no but you know you're
00:42:02
not
00:42:03
yeah um and how's your how's your mental
00:42:05
health been there's been a lot of um a
00:42:07
lot of talk in the past year about um
00:42:08
mental health you know there's Olivia
00:42:10
podmore in Cambridge how's yours been
00:42:13
over the years you've been you've been
00:42:14
yeah yeah
00:42:15
you can go through like
00:42:16
um Eric and everyone goes through ups
00:42:18
and downs it's like it's the nature of
00:42:21
sport I think
00:42:22
um a lot of things that you usually get
00:42:24
excited about everything's getting
00:42:26
canceled everything's getting postponed
00:42:28
all the things that used to really
00:42:29
matter don't matter anymore no one cares
00:42:31
about a wedding no one cares about like
00:42:33
but it's like in the past like everyone
00:42:35
cares about weddings like I've been
00:42:37
waiting not my whole life but you know
00:42:39
you're like oh it'd be so cool to like
00:42:40
get married and suddenly it's like
00:42:42
you're planning something and you think
00:42:44
oh plan way in the future because it
00:42:46
might not happen because of covert and
00:42:48
then you still have to postpone it and
00:42:49
so it's just yeah I think I'd say 2021
00:42:52
was tough
00:42:53
um and there was even when I traveled so
00:42:56
I left um New Zealand the end of March
00:42:58
2021 I was away till September
00:43:01
um last year through traveling through a
00:43:04
pandemic that's not easy like yeah
00:43:06
there's it's really stressful actually
00:43:07
there's a lot of
00:43:09
um criteria a lot of protocol a lot of
00:43:12
testing like I had so many covert tests
00:43:15
so it didn't it wasn't such like a full
00:43:17
circle yeah you didn't even get the yeah
00:43:19
the full Olympic experience yeah and not
00:43:22
like you definitely don't get the full
00:43:23
experience like there's not a lot of
00:43:25
give back it was a lot of hard work and
00:43:28
not a lot of reward basically
00:43:30
um and I think part of what why you you
00:43:32
you train so hard and compete is there's
00:43:36
a lot of fun as well involved I was
00:43:38
excited to see the end of 2021 I think
00:43:42
um yeah
00:43:53
yeah and I think everyone as well seemed
00:43:57
quite negative and down in 2021 like so
00:44:00
instead of being around lots of people
00:44:01
who are usually really positive and
00:44:03
excited it's like everyone's had a lot
00:44:06
of hard times and so
00:44:08
yeah when you feed off usually it's like
00:44:11
I feed off like positive energy feed off
00:44:13
people that are like I don't know doing
00:44:15
things that are pretty cool and yeah and
00:44:18
it's just it's just cancellation after
00:44:20
cancellation after opportunity
00:44:21
cancellation and it's yeah but you seem
00:44:25
fairly resilient though you're quite a
00:44:26
resilient person what do you think where
00:44:28
does that come from
00:44:29
um I think I've always been pretty
00:44:32
resilient
00:44:34
um I
00:44:36
I I think I don't really know I think
00:44:38
it's a lot of things haven't actually
00:44:40
come very easy
00:44:42
um and so it's like I think I'm usually
00:44:45
quite good at framing like okay
00:44:47
rejection failure framing that and
00:44:50
thinking okay how do I like overcome
00:44:52
that and be better and get something
00:44:54
better out of it have you spent the last
00:44:56
couple of I'm guessing this is the
00:44:57
longest you've been in New Zealand and
00:44:58
the longest you've been with your fiance
00:45:00
as well pre-pandemic I'm guessing you
00:45:03
guys could go weeks months without
00:45:05
seeing each other this could have been
00:45:07
the make or break of your relationship
00:45:09
right yeah yeah I mean we hardly saw
00:45:12
each other before this yeah we would go
00:45:14
months
00:45:15
um because he's he's off in some country
00:45:17
you're in some other country at some
00:45:18
camp or whatever yeah exactly yeah yeah
00:45:21
so no it's actually been really cool
00:45:23
yeah it's been really nice we we
00:45:25
actually do work really well together
00:45:28
um any little things that you've noticed
00:45:29
that annoy you
00:45:30
annoy you about him or vice versa he I
00:45:34
mean I'm I think it's hard now because
00:45:35
he wrote like because now I'm pregnant I
00:45:37
don't think I'm quite as capable as
00:45:39
usual
00:45:40
um and so I think yeah it's been it's
00:45:44
been hard because I think I feel
00:45:47
um I can't do quite as much as usual and
00:45:49
that annoys me about it what do you mean
00:45:51
I don't have quite the same amount of
00:45:53
energy as as usual
00:45:56
um
00:45:57
and yes I think I get frustrated and I
00:46:01
think they actually annoys him that I am
00:46:03
so hard on myself
00:46:05
um because yeah like I'm used to being
00:46:07
able to do like a lot and I can train
00:46:09
twice a day every day I've got unlimited
00:46:12
energy and I just I can just do it I
00:46:15
don't know I seem to just be able to
00:46:16
achieve what like not whatever I want
00:46:18
but I can kind of put my mind to
00:46:20
something and I can navigate my way
00:46:22
through it I might need a bit of help
00:46:24
from him
00:46:25
but it's been harder I'd say it's I
00:46:28
haven't had the same energy the same
00:46:31
concentration the same like
00:46:34
quite as tough mindset as usual and so
00:46:39
I've been kind of annoyed about that and
00:46:41
I think he's like you've got to be nicer
00:46:43
to yourself like
00:46:45
100. well yeah and I'm like and so I
00:46:49
think he gets he's like if I'm negative
00:46:51
he does he's just like what do you like
00:46:53
stop it you're doing really well you're
00:46:55
pregnant you're brilliant but it's human
00:46:57
inside your camera
00:46:59
yeah so I think that kind of annoys him
00:47:01
a little bit he's like just be like
00:47:03
positive like you're doing so good and
00:47:05
I'm like but look what I used to do and
00:47:07
he's like yeah and you can go back and
00:47:09
do it after like it's that yeah we've we
00:47:12
did spend a bit of time together in the
00:47:13
UK right
00:47:15
um for a good period of time and that
00:47:16
was really cool
00:47:17
um and I was um training heaps and he
00:47:19
was training and working and we're like
00:47:21
yeah it's cool we we do actually
00:47:24
compliment each other pretty well like
00:47:26
which is yeah I'm pretty lucky yeah
00:47:28
um so where were you guys like um sort
00:47:30
of February March 2020 when the pandemic
00:47:33
was just sort of popping off were you
00:47:34
where yeah so we were in the UK right
00:47:37
yeah you made a like a conscious
00:47:39
decision to like Sprint back to New
00:47:41
Zealand we were living in bath and um I
00:47:45
was coming home from my sister's wedding
00:47:46
and then I was going to America and then
00:47:48
Europe and then he was staying in the UK
00:47:51
flying to Spain and then back oh France
00:47:53
maybe it's a very glamorous life
00:47:55
yeah he was France or somewhere yeah
00:47:59
what a life no
00:48:01
um and so I happened to be home
00:48:04
um beginning of March 2020 and then the
00:48:08
next week they shut the borders and so
00:48:10
then he came home two weeks later and we
00:48:13
like got him out of the apartments and
00:48:15
he rushed home basically and we stayed
00:48:18
in New Zealand for a full year so it was
00:48:20
pretty crazy such an uncertain time
00:48:21
wasn't it yeah and um how did you find
00:48:23
training like you would have had to
00:48:25
train with dudes right like you couldn't
00:48:27
find I'm guessing like decent females to
00:48:30
train with around waikato no yeah I
00:48:33
heard it to train them
00:48:35
um no I did hasta training with um Jacob
00:48:37
pretty he's a guy in Hamilton and Logan
00:48:40
Roger
00:48:41
um yeah which was really cool heaps of
00:48:43
track stuff with them heaps of tempos
00:48:45
with them
00:48:46
um easy runs I'm trying to think who
00:48:49
else I can't think I did quite a bit of
00:48:50
running with some of the triathletes in
00:48:52
Cambridge actually some of the girls
00:48:54
like Ainsley and Sophie
00:48:56
um Eva for a little bit yeah and so that
00:48:58
was really cool I did a couple of
00:49:00
training camps with some of the New
00:49:03
Zealand women down in Christchurch and
00:49:05
then also with the guys in Hawke's Bay I
00:49:07
did like a training camp with the guys
00:49:08
and so that was cool doing just being
00:49:10
with them and I did the easy runs they
00:49:12
did some parts of some of my sessions
00:49:14
some of the guys yeah just tried to keep
00:49:16
as much of like an atmosphere in a
00:49:18
training group as possible yeah well
00:49:20
that's cool and I believe um like during
00:49:22
lockdown your mum would help you with
00:49:24
the long trip you should come out on a
00:49:25
bike oh that's adorable it's cute she
00:49:27
must have loved like your parents um
00:49:29
even given the awful circumstances of
00:49:31
the pandemic must have been just loved
00:49:33
having you back home for a bit yeah so
00:49:35
Mum would come out often a couple of
00:49:37
times a week and she'd do my long run
00:49:39
with me she'd ride and so she'd always
00:49:41
get in like like two hours almost like
00:49:43
28 whatever k
00:49:46
um and so she actually got quite fit was
00:49:48
it sort of like conversational Pace well
00:49:50
like we were yeah and I'd try and like
00:49:53
yeah try and be like can you ride sort
00:49:56
of beside me so that we can talk rather
00:49:58
than yeah it's yeah we had to go along
00:50:01
the main road which was a bit dangerous
00:50:04
um but within reason we're trying to
00:50:06
talk quite a bit of the time yeah yeah
00:50:08
well that's nice is this going to be her
00:50:10
first grandchild uh my sister's got two
00:50:12
boys but her first girl yeah the first
00:50:15
girl yeah oh she must be frothing about
00:50:17
it yeah yeah she's really excited so
00:50:20
it's cute yeah and what about your dad
00:50:21
did he um did he get on the bike or
00:50:23
anything did he help out with training
00:50:24
yeah he did quite a bit of running did
00:50:26
he Yeah well yeah he's run like a couple
00:50:30
of marathons
00:50:32
um and we did quite a bit of running I'd
00:50:34
say the first bit together
00:50:37
um was it was he a good runner is that
00:50:38
where is that where the gene comes from
00:50:40
he didn't really start running until
00:50:42
more recently until I reckon I went to
00:50:44
college in America he sort of picked it
00:50:45
up and so he's run a couple of 330
00:50:47
marathons
00:50:49
um I think he could go quicker on him
00:50:50
he's run like Rotorua so it's Hillary
00:50:53
but he's run like a one Thirty Something
00:50:55
half
00:50:57
um and even in Auckland like so he can
00:50:59
he could go quicker I think how old is
00:51:00
he now what is he 63 maybe geez that's a
00:51:03
good time for ages he's good he's he's
00:51:05
pretty fit for his age he doesn't I
00:51:07
don't think he I think he looks younger
00:51:09
than he is yeah he's pretty he's very
00:51:11
dedicated motivated person so he's like
00:51:14
working hard trying like he's keeps fit
00:51:16
yeah keeps active around the house as
00:51:18
well he's he's always busy doing stuff
00:51:21
yeah
00:51:22
which is cool well that's nice oh what a
00:51:24
cool family yeah so my sister doesn't
00:51:26
run she's not into it what does she do
00:51:30
um she's cheer I don't know she well she
00:51:32
works and like she's got the kids and
00:51:33
stuff so she's
00:51:35
um but she's not really into
00:51:37
um sport per se
00:51:39
um but her kids are so it's real cool
00:51:41
they like love running and so my nephews
00:51:44
love running and they always watch all
00:51:45
my races online and she like puts them
00:51:48
up on like the phone or whatever iPad
00:51:50
and stuff God it's got to be such a kick
00:51:52
for them having an auntie that's going
00:51:53
to the Olympics and commonwealth games
00:51:55
and stuff but then they'll be like ah so
00:51:57
you didn't win they'll be wrong
00:52:01
so it's real funny she's just like you
00:52:04
did really good like Camille did so well
00:52:06
in the email like yeah but she didn't
00:52:09
win though it's real funny yeah say um
00:52:12
say if you're a career
00:52:14
um was to win now would you would you be
00:52:16
at peace with with what you've done or
00:52:18
is this there's still boxes that you
00:52:19
want to take or things that you want to
00:52:20
achieve yeah I think
00:52:22
um I think I want to keep going like I
00:52:25
don't I think I'm really happy
00:52:28
um with some of my PBS and I think I've
00:52:31
done a decent effort like I've really
00:52:34
dedicated a lot and it's been a hell of
00:52:36
a career
00:52:37
um but I do think like I really want to
00:52:40
go to Paris
00:52:41
um I really think I've got a few more
00:52:43
years of I think I can get better yeah I
00:52:46
just think there's a bit more left
00:52:48
um a few things probably haven't quite
00:52:50
gone to plan on certain races I do want
00:52:53
to give the marathon a go
00:52:55
um that's exciting so like I'm pretty
00:52:57
thinking yeah so for the for the
00:53:00
Olympics in Paris is it will that be
00:53:02
track do you think 5000. I would I'm
00:53:05
going to try for the marathon first yeah
00:53:07
so how old will you be at Paris
00:53:10
um
00:53:11
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00:53:12
34.34 yeah so you could have another
00:53:14
couple of Olympics or Commonwealth Games
00:53:16
in you if you go longer yeah it could
00:53:18
potentially do one more after that wow
00:53:21
so what's the do you know what the
00:53:22
qualifying time is for the marathon I
00:53:25
don't hunt because it changes everything
00:53:26
and they haven't been released I think
00:53:28
it was about 228 229 for Tokyo so be
00:53:33
similar around that you need to get an
00:53:35
electricity decent like a decent base
00:53:37
like what's all the training really but
00:53:40
like the training that you do now for
00:53:42
five thousand and ten thousand in terms
00:53:43
of like miles or hours per week it's
00:53:45
probably not that much difference right
00:53:46
it's similar it's similar similar
00:53:49
different sessions like you do longer
00:53:51
team pose
00:53:52
um and longest like the actual efforts
00:53:56
would be longer yeah oh yeah because
00:53:58
you've done a couple of half marathons
00:53:59
hey just a couple of lazy halves which
00:54:01
You've Won and you've you've paced some
00:54:02
as well yeah so what's your what's your
00:54:04
set of half marathon time I've paced my
00:54:07
fastest pacing was one 11 19 I think
00:54:09
right so was that for a marathon event
00:54:11
yes so you just had to Pace like the
00:54:12
first half yeah geez that's that's right
00:54:15
isn't it yeah it's kind of like got me
00:54:18
that's kind of what I'm I'm sort of
00:54:21
keeping quite like that in the back of
00:54:24
my head to get me out training even now
00:54:25
like when you feel like just not running
00:54:28
very fast or but it gets me like I'm
00:54:30
excited to keep fit and to keep running
00:54:32
to know that it will be easier to get
00:54:34
back into it um once I've obviously had
00:54:37
the baby and stuff so would it be
00:54:39
possible in Paris to do like both like
00:54:41
the marathon and a track event or is
00:54:43
that just sort of unheard of I know
00:54:44
they're completely different some people
00:54:45
have but I wouldn't probably want to
00:54:48
even yeah a try again
00:54:50
um but I mean if I did yeah I'd try and
00:54:53
qualify in one of them
00:54:55
um would be the goal I I both are
00:54:58
achieved like either or would be
00:54:59
achievable it's just about
00:55:01
but I know the work it takes this takes
00:55:03
a lot of work
00:55:04
um and so just be how I kind of got
00:55:06
through the birth and how I kind of
00:55:09
Managed IT and yeah we're like obviously
00:55:11
at the moment I'm real excited and I've
00:55:13
I've got a lot of energy for that
00:55:15
um but yeah you've got to have a lot of
00:55:17
mental strength yeah and you don't want
00:55:20
to rush back I read um read some of you
00:55:22
had um like a jaw surgery a number of
00:55:24
hours ago and you got back to running
00:55:25
and you won some half marathons and some
00:55:27
events after that but you yeah like you
00:55:29
you sort of got back to training into
00:55:30
events quicker than what you should have
00:55:31
so yeah I mean you want to enjoy yeah
00:55:33
this time don't you you don't want to
00:55:35
yeah you can push yourself a bit too
00:55:37
hard and then it ends up not backfiring
00:55:39
but you yeah like if you rush back into
00:55:41
something too quickly you have a setback
00:55:44
that takes longer to get over than if
00:55:46
you're just being smart about it so yeah
00:55:48
when I say I want to get back into
00:55:49
training it's like it's still more
00:55:51
talking about walk jog walk jog
00:55:53
afterwards and then and then like
00:55:55
thinking okay when can I realistically
00:55:57
be full-time training
00:55:58
um that'll be a few months definitely
00:56:00
yeah the track listen to Kim go easy on
00:56:03
yourself yeah
00:56:05
you're not Superwoman yeah what does
00:56:07
your tattoo say you got to tear on your
00:56:08
left first what's that say falling in
00:56:10
control and then confident yeah
00:56:12
because I got confident on your right
00:56:14
wrist yeah yeah and what was it falling
00:56:16
flowing flowing not falling falling
00:56:19
that'd be terrible yeah okay so
00:56:20
confident are these just like mantras or
00:56:23
reminders or yeah I don't know I got
00:56:24
them I got them when I was in college in
00:56:26
America yeah
00:56:27
um yeah yeah so do you look at them like
00:56:30
pre-race or anything oh I don't think I
00:56:32
particularly I just I don't know like
00:56:34
yeah like they're there and they're kind
00:56:36
of like yeah words that I think I guess
00:56:38
I try and live by yeah without and I'm
00:56:41
not standing there staring at them
00:56:45
I've taken them so much of your time
00:56:47
we'll just have some quick fire
00:56:48
questions and then I'll leave you to it
00:56:49
what do you listen to when you run do
00:56:51
you listen to anything or no sometimes
00:56:53
music yeah yeah sometimes when I run if
00:56:55
I'm on my own if I run on my own quite a
00:56:57
bit I'll um check them yeah if I wasn't
00:57:00
right and yeah what's up what's your
00:57:02
flavor ah anything I have this like I I
00:57:06
sometimes just have like real old-school
00:57:08
music that's probably quite lame but
00:57:10
like oh no that's the thing any music
00:57:13
slime music so subjective like um I
00:57:15
don't know I get embarrassed about
00:57:16
telling people when I listen to it you
00:57:18
should you shouldn't have to explain
00:57:19
what your music you like or justify it
00:57:22
yeah what's your favorite place to run
00:57:24
like do you track I suppose is an
00:57:25
obvious answer but do you have like a
00:57:27
favorite route around waikato that you
00:57:29
run
00:57:30
um definitely I like running near the
00:57:32
river probably like near water is nice
00:57:34
because you just it's not like too busy
00:57:36
and you can just kind of get going
00:57:38
um like yeah not Crossing roads and
00:57:40
stuff is definitely the best like best
00:57:42
places
00:57:44
um so in Hamilton would be along the
00:57:45
river right yeah it's nice how long is
00:57:48
the track that goes along the river
00:57:49
um you can do two hours yeah from one
00:57:52
end to another up and back yeah or even
00:57:54
if you go more North it's way longer
00:57:57
right you can it's really cool yeah
00:57:59
um next question which I ask everyone I
00:58:01
I reckon we can probably answer this
00:58:03
together on the count of three favorite
00:58:05
show one two three New Balance yes yeah
00:58:09
New Balance 880s yeah all right what are
00:58:12
the 880s is that a racing Pier or no
00:58:14
training pair they're just like they're
00:58:16
a standard
00:58:18
um 10 millimeter heel drop like pretty
00:58:21
lightweight but also pretty sturdy
00:58:24
um just yeah run of them all like
00:58:27
training shoe and that's yeah I don't
00:58:29
know I love them I've been wearing them
00:58:31
for like years how long have you been
00:58:33
with New Balance
00:58:35
um forever since 2011. yeah wow that's a
00:58:38
long partnership I have a lot of New
00:58:39
Balance clothes
00:58:40
do they do they just give you gear or do
00:58:43
they give you some money as well yeah
00:58:45
I'm also um contracted to them yeah cool
00:58:48
um but yeah oh yeah so it's really cool
00:58:50
Jesus that's a loyal long-standing
00:58:52
partnership isn't it as long as your
00:58:54
relationship with your fiance I think we
00:58:56
I think it was about the same time yeah
00:59:00
um do you prefer to run alone or with a
00:59:02
crew different either I think it depends
00:59:06
I think
00:59:07
um I like to run not with a big group a
00:59:10
small group one or two I think would be
00:59:12
how like me my preference
00:59:14
um and then I don't love running on my
00:59:16
own but I reckon one or two times a
00:59:18
week's nice yeah yeah so you can kind of
00:59:20
Do Your Own Thing get into your own
00:59:22
Rhythm
00:59:23
um but I reckon I like three quarters of
00:59:25
the week with one or two others and then
00:59:27
a couple of days on your own yep yeah
00:59:29
and um do you prefer summer or winter
00:59:31
hot or cold when it comes to running
00:59:33
at the moment polls because I'm pregnant
00:59:36
I'm hot all the time like I've hated
00:59:39
summer but generally I think I I think I
00:59:42
usually like summer but in the part like
00:59:44
now I'm just dying for winter I've been
00:59:46
so excited for winter to come and it
00:59:48
just doesn't turn up right so I follow
00:59:51
you on Instagram and sometimes you go on
00:59:53
these training camps at St maritz or
00:59:55
somewhere it's a 400 middle track and
00:59:57
there's like mountains in the background
00:59:58
is that Saint maritz yeah where the hell
00:59:59
is where's Saint maritz Switzerland
01:00:01
Switzerland that is the most
01:00:03
beautiful looking track in the world is
01:00:05
it hot there or cold there
01:00:06
um pretty cold because anywhere at
01:00:08
altitude is usually a bit colder cool
01:00:10
look been down ground level which is
01:00:13
actually great for me because I do like
01:00:15
it a bit cooler
01:00:16
um sunny but cool it would be my
01:00:18
preference so oh very perfect
01:00:24
do you have um do you have like a go-to
01:00:26
meal the night the night before like a
01:00:28
big event like a or any sort of
01:00:29
superstitions like that I guess no
01:00:31
nothing particular like just card based
01:00:33
yeah like what faster maybe like
01:00:35
spaghetti bolognese or something yeah I
01:00:38
don't really like rice so that's not
01:00:39
really in the in the menu but yeah
01:00:42
nothing too spicy Burgers kind of
01:00:44
burgers and chips pretty good really
01:00:46
yeah I reckon that's like a good go-to
01:00:48
for the night before us what did you
01:00:50
have um in the Gold Coast before the
01:00:52
Commonwealth Games I mean it's hard
01:00:54
because you're in a village right right
01:00:55
yeah so you got I can't even remember
01:00:58
yeah I don't know combo of things from
01:01:01
the dining hall here run as high is that
01:01:03
a real or a myth no it's totally real
01:01:05
yeah yeah I reckon it's so real I didn't
01:01:08
run the Heap last year
01:01:10
um when I first got pregnant I just felt
01:01:12
really sick and so I wasn't running as
01:01:14
much and I reckon it's I reckon my mood
01:01:17
was way like you just dip it more down
01:01:19
whereas I've run a lot more since Jan
01:01:21
like since sort of Christmas
01:01:23
um and I feel way happier way more
01:01:26
excited just more energy I think it's
01:01:28
for me it's a thing like totally a thing
01:01:31
so like during a run or after a run or
01:01:35
yeah sometimes during the Run you'll get
01:01:37
a not the whole run but you'll get a few
01:01:39
bouquets we've some days I've had pretty
01:01:41
bad days there's no high but um but yeah
01:01:45
I reckon like half like a little bit in
01:01:47
the round as well is also after and then
01:01:50
just in the then in the day during the
01:01:52
day of after you've run you feel like a
01:01:55
bit more excited and a bit more like I
01:01:57
don't know and then just go in a bed you
01:01:58
feel a bit more like con not content but
01:02:01
like yeah peaceful yeah yeah I think
01:02:03
yeah it's definitely
01:02:05
um I didn't realize how much I like
01:02:08
needed running I think and I've sort of
01:02:11
realized a bit more now maybe it's do
01:02:13
you do you think even when um even when
01:02:15
you're no longer like the speed demon
01:02:17
that you are now running was always
01:02:19
going to be part of your life yeah I
01:02:20
think I'm gonna have to to despite
01:02:21
myself Ron every day because yeah I feel
01:02:23
way better yeah just more normal
01:02:25
everything just feels it's kind of just
01:02:27
like for me it's like you need to eat
01:02:29
you need to sleep and I need to run I
01:02:31
don't know I just you can't just if I
01:02:33
take that away that's a huge part of me
01:02:35
and I think
01:02:37
um something I've realized being
01:02:38
pregnant
01:02:39
um is that I actually do it for me
01:02:42
rather than also just for training it's
01:02:44
also like part of who I am
01:02:46
um so yeah I think that's something I'm
01:02:48
gonna keep doing forever pretty much yes
01:02:51
so nice when you have that realization
01:02:52
eh about just yeah how important it is
01:02:54
to you and it's not about necessarily
01:02:55
about events or about being the best or
01:02:57
whatever it's just um you're part of who
01:02:58
you are and what you do yeah yeah hey
01:03:01
thank you so much for your time today no
01:03:03
that's cool really appreciate it and I'm
01:03:05
fizzing about
01:03:06
um getting you off the track and onto
01:03:07
the road what a treat that'll be oh
01:03:10
thanks so excited we'll see what happens
01:03:12
eh cool no thanks so much for having me
01:03:15
well I'm in your house so you had me so
01:03:17
yeah yeah okay okay I appreciate it
01:03:18
thank you so much for coming on the
01:03:19
podcast cool
01:03:21
thanks very much for listening I hope
01:03:22
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01:03:24
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01:03:26
give her a follow on Instagram if you
01:03:27
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01:03:28
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01:03:30
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01:03:32
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