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hi healthy Kelsey welcome to my podcast
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hello it's nice to it's my first podcast
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oh yeah you said that to me when we were
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messaging yesterday I found that I found
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that difficult to believe like have you
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been asked to go on any no I've never
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been asked to go on a podcast oh well
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but I listen to lots of podcasts I'm a
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real podcast do you what are you into
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what's your is it like cooking s of ones
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or True Crime literally no not true
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crime I'm a bit scared of True Crime
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literally anything like I like just dumb
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pop cultur ones and then I like you know
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health and wellness and L when I was in
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London I listened to like like three a
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day you're traveling so much around yeah
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it's a phenomenal platform like it
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allows you to have conversations with
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people that no other sort of media space
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allows and I love about it yeah yeah
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yeah that is cool eh yeah and like
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usually I don't think I can pay
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attention you know like listening to
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something for two hours but I actually
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like go for a walk and I'm like this is
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actually really
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entertaining yeah hey first things first
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I I I need to ask um what age were you
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when the the metro station song Kelsey
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came oh my yeah didn't [ __ ] up your
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childhood big no I reckon it was cool at
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every party it's still my party truck
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I'm like put on metro station um was I
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like 11 12 yeah I think so my my parents
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loved that song as well a great s we're
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debating songs for our Widing at the
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moment and I'm like should we do that
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one walk down the aisle to Metro station
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G is there so your fiance is called
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Andrew is it is there an Andrew song I
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don't know I don't know is catchy um and
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the funny thing is about that Metro
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station song is you're you're um you're
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a swimmer yeah so that was quite fitting
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as you can swim the ocean for yourself I
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know that was what was quite funny I
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remember that coming out in intermediate
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and people being like oh this is like a
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song for you cuz you swim yeah that's a
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great song and um another another
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question going back to your school years
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um so your surname is boock boock yeah
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character building name at school
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weirdly so I get ask this all the time
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and this is another thing I'm debating
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like planning a wedding I always was
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like can't wait to get rid of that name
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and now I'm like I love buok I'm like I
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can't not be a buck it's a real debate
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I'm having but surprisingly no like but
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I think no kid no kid gets um out of
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school unscathed like I had I had uh
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condom doic um Harvey Farms chicken
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which was a bit of a lame one hary
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Norman you know just anything you didn't
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you didn't get um yeah poock I don't
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know I spilled in like year three I
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spilled blue dye on the floor and I got
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blue [ __ ] for a
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while nobody
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want What's um what's what's Andrew's
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name his last name trimbath trimbath
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yeah but we talk about so we talk about
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combining them we can do boo bath bath
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[ __ ] or trim
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[ __ ] I know I don't think any of those
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are takers yeah that's um you you we'll
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get we'll get Andrew later on I just
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want to go through your your entire the
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entire healthy Kelsey story like how
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healthy Kelsey was born how this came
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about because I think um uh what you've
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done with your your hustle I think um
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it's inspiring to a a lot of people
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would want to do what you've done um so
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I want to know how much of it was luck
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and how much of it was just hard grind
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and hustle um but we'll get to Andrew
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and how you guys
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met but yeah first of all let's talk
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about the swimming and stuff so you were
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you were a swimmer swimmer growing up
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really good too like one of New
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Zealand's best back strok yeah yeah did
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research when did you when did you start
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oh oh I lived in Fiji as a kid so when I
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was
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9 um we all moved to fij as a family and
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kind of the only sport there I was
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always mom said I was always quite good
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at swimming anyway even from really
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young age but that was pretty much the
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only sport people did like it was a real
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social thing like on a Friday night
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you'd go swim and the parents would
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drink and like You' hang out so Fiji was
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where it kind of all started and I kind
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of started getting quite good I was
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maybe swimming like three times a week
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then when I was like nine so where where
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abouts in Fiji like like formal swimming
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like swimming in pools or yeah yeah yeah
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like there was
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Oney oh the there was a swim 25 M um
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swimming pool that you'd go train at
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yeah yeah I just want a clarification
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cuz I men like out in
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dinner din just doing some
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extra so why why did you so you're from
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New Zealand yes yeah why did your family
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move to Fiji that's random Dad I know so
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my dad did roading so a lot of they did
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a lot of roading stuff in Fiji and then
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I think my actually though I think my
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parents just wanted to live somewhere
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else there was talk of Canada for a
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while and they're like I think we just
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want to have a bit a couple years of a
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bit of an adventure and do something
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different who who else in the family are
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the siblings um I have an older brother
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and a younger brother right so everyone
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moved over yeah yeah well we were five
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eight and 10 we didn't leave the little
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one what was um what do you what are
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your Recollections of that time in Fiji
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I actually remember it really well
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because I think because it was a real
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different year you know like a lot of
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when you're a kid that kind of all
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mushes into one but I think Fiji stands
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out because it was so different but I
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loved it we went to an international
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school that's where I started swimming
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so it was quite a big you know point in
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my life I still have one of my close
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friends from when I was 10 in Fiji I
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caught up within Europe last week and we
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spent two weeks together traveling
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around so like definitely still in touch
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with you know all the people and things
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like that which is really cool amazing
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well wasn't um unsettling like leaving
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leaving a school going to a new school I
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was pretty chill I think I was a pretty
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chill kid I probably would have been
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happy to do anything like especially me
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and my little brother were very yeah
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yeah
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sure it's it's funny when you're a kid
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CU something like that it's a it's a
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massive mess of upheaval and um I feel
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like kids are quite resilient yeah as an
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sounds fun
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let's go I imagine my parents would have
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been quite a stressful like time being
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like we're going to move here and we're
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just like all right sounds good yeah so
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then you you moved back to New Zealand
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yeah you finished your school here yeah
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so I think it was when
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my older brother started intermediate
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cuz obviously schooling hair is better
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so they wanted him to start um
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intermediate in New Zealand um and then
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yeah did you learn much Fijian while you
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were over there we did I'm saying now
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terrible but we did we did I think
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lessons a couple times a week at school
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yeah so you know more than b and my dad
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my dad taught me how to order a beer for
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him so I knew know how to order a
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beer what do they call it Fiji baby Fiji
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better um oh that's cool and then so you
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um so you're at school and then um then
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you went to summer camp that was
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straight after school no so that
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was um once I quit swimming so I swam
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all the way up till
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uh and then I went to UNI as well um so
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I did swimming pretty much through all
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of that and then it was towards the end
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of uni that I really decided I didn't
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want to swim anymore it was actually
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quite a so you were like 20 21 yeah what
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just swimming is
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um I reckon it's one of the like
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mentally one of the toughest Sports to
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train for so hard backstroke at least
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you're looking at the ceiling the
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sky the why did you gravitate towards
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backstroke I don't know I was just
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always good at it I think I just I
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honestly I think a massive I liked
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swimming but a massive part as to why I
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liked swimming was cuz I I just liked
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winning so I was yeah so I was like I'll
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just and then backst yeah I was always
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good at backstroke even from when I was
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young so I think it just stuck and what
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s of trainings involved at the competive
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like morning two double sessions yeah so
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I think I was um from the age of
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probably like 14 I was doing
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maybe 10 swim sessions a week and and
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then a couple gems yeah which is a
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little but I loved it for a really long
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time which is cool it's it's a lot the
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way cuz and you you got to start at a
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young age really don't you so so the you
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got these kids doing these um like
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double double sessions and hard for the
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parents my parents I'm like my God you
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guys are great what time were they
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dropping you to the pool in the morning
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I think we'd start at 5:30 and we lived
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out in the country back then so Dad
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would do mornings mom would do
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afternoons and my little brother also
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swam um which made it a little bit
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easier but yeah he we' be getting up at
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quarter to 5 from really young age my
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dad liked it though he got to drop me
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off he'd go to the gym hang out with me
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before I went to school like he said he
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actually quite enjoyed the time in the
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morning so yeah well I mean you kids
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it's good for like installing discipline
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and people and yes that's what I think
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now I like to think of the positives
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yeah I mean you there's a lot of sort of
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transfera bles that you get out of it
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but it's um it's a lot and you think
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about how many how many people around
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the country are doing that every morning
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like like young kids and how many of
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them are going to end up being the next
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um you know not many yeah yeah that's
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the thing so do most people just end up
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sort of dropping off the swimming yeah
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so I was probably one of the last of my
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friends to stop most people probably
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around like 15 16 17 just life gets in
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the way yeah like you you realize that
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there's probably a bit more going on out
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in the world yeah is it a combination of
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you realize there's more going on in the
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world and also you're not going to make
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it to the Olympics yes yes I think
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that's what I when I was quitting I went
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through a I actually went through
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probably six months of like really I it
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randomly switched it was like I suddenly
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don't like this anymore and I i' always
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liked it and I was always the swimming
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girl at school like she was going to go
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to the Olympics and so when I decided I
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didn't like it anymore I just thought oh
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but I have to keep doing it cuz I'm good
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at it and this is what I do and and my I
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remember my parents being like you're so
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miserable like just stop doing it and I
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it's like but I'm good at it like I
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would cry in my goggles like most days
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like just be swimming crying and like
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like how what am I doing how do you how
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do you cry when you're doing backst
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tears are just puddling in your eyes
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yeah just filling up the goggles so that
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was yeah that was like a weird time and
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it was so funny cuz when I actually
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decided no I'm actually going to stop I
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didn't feel sad at all I was like relief
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like like a weight off your shoulders
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yeah like I was like I feel great about
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this idea which you so you were you were
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like a reasonably young age to come to
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that realization that you didn't want to
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swim anymore but there there's got to be
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a lot of people like of all sorts of
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Ages that have that same sort of thing
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where you you do something and you're
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sort of defined by it yeah so so give
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giving it up you feel like you're giving
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up part of yourself yeah like and I
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think it's a a crazy thing especially
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because it's people that are usually so
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young it's like and I could only imagine
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what it will be like like would be like
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if you are the best in the world or if
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you're you know an Olympic gold medalist
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like stopping then must be so hard
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because you're probably I like you're
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obviously going to have amazing highs in
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your life and but at the time I think
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you think like it's not going to feel
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better than this like yeah yeah yeah
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that's a I mean I um I've had I've had
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HS of amazing people on the podcast but
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R about this time last year I had Kindra
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coxy John who's one of the black fans oh
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yeah yeah so she had just recently won
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um the the women's Rugby World Cup and
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that was the the last game of her career
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right so she was sitting here and I mean
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a years passed since then and I see her
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on Instagram all the time and she's
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still tied up in the rugby Community but
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she was like I could tell that she was
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so fearful of that it is it must be if
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it's your whole identity and you've done
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the best thing you could possibly do in
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your thing it must be like what am I
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going to do and like I guess I felt that
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to an extent because it was you know at
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the time it did feel like the most
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important thing even though it was like
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now I look back I'm like oh my gosh yeah
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yeah yeah I mean you're doing bigger and
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big things now sh the hours you you sp
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the pool that way and you think like oh
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my God I hope it's not a waste like if I
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just wasted all everyone's time and my
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own time and seems I think it I think it
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was in a way and it seems like you had
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really good parents like you you know
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your dad I've never met the guy I don't
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know anything about the guy but he
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sounds really positive saying he enjoyed
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the experience and G most positive I
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think the most positive person I've ever
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come across my dad he's had a pretty
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tough year he's had a bunch of different
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things he's like really healthy fit dude
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like he comes with me to Pilates in the
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morning into the gym and stuff but no
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like he broke his
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leg he's a real good skier first day of
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ski season skis all day walks to the car
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breaks his leg walk into the car
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spping so he's just like [ __ ] but he's
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like you know what like whatever like
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he's so positive about every single
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situation and like if something knocks
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him down he's always like n we're not
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doing that and just does everything he
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can to make to make it better which is
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really it's a great role model it sounds
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like you're really lucky and also you
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mentioned before I don't know if it was
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your dad or your mom or both but them
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saying Kelsey the swimming's making you
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miserable give it up yeah not being like
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you know I imagine some there was a lot
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of you know those Dance Mom yeah you've
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come this far yeah keep going
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Commonwealth Games TOS are only 18
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months
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away they were like no you cry in your
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goggles I
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don't how how how good were you like do
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you think you could have made like
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Commonwealth Games or Olympics or that's
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hard to say hard to say like I got
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glandel fever when I was quitting I was
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on that path I guess from a young age
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like I made teams when I was young but
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it's so tricky when you get older I
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don't know I don't know if I was ever I
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think I was good in New Zealand but I
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don't think I was good enough in the
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world you know yeah yeah that's a whole
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different activity yeah well well I
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suppose when you get to that level you
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have like different sort of goals or
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expectations like there's some people
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that go to the Olympics and anything
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less than a mdal is a disappointment
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there's people that just
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making that's what I and my that's all I
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and that's what I came to turns with I
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was like all I'm going to do I was
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qualifying then I still have to go and I
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still have to swim and I don't want to
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swim like I'm crying in my [ __ ] dog
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like I don't want to swim anymore and I
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think but what I actually loved about it
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a lot was going on the trips like
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overseas cuz in high school I got to go
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on all these epic overseas trips and
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like skip school and go all these fun
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things and then when I left school I was
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like I can just do that like I don't
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actually have to go now with swimming I
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can just go and have fun yeah and I
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guess um even though it's a fa lonely
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and individual sport the be like in the
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the swim squads quite a good sort of
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community yeah like my best friends
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pretty much swimming S I did a lot of s
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life saving I met Andrew through
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swimming so it's yeah massive still lots
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of my best friends from there which is
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really yeah oh was Andrew swimmer as
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well yeah yeah so that's how we met we
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both made a New Zealand team to go to
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France and then that was when I was 17
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it's a really long time ago yeah around
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26 yeah only 10 years how old say same
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age oh one year old
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oh yeah yeah yeah so you wow First Love
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for both of you yeah pretty much which
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is you have like little little two
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months here yeah yeah got my heart
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broken you gave me that half
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love oh that's called was it Love at
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First Sight with Andrew or it's so hard
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to say when you're a teenager we were
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really good friends for a while but I
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was always like I always definitely had
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a crush on him I think from forever
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and then he lived in denan so I was a
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bit like was studying down there no he
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lived in Den so he's from he's from
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Christ church and then lived in denan um
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so I was like I don't really I'm like 18
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I can't have a boyfriend who was in
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dened that's not that practical um and
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then he ended up moving up to Orland to
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swim so yeah and he just hasn't hasn't
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gone what's it's amazing that you you
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you st together and you're when are you
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getting married by the way uh hopefully
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well yeah next summer right so FIB next
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2 cuz the changes you go through like as
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a as a person um from 17 to mid 20s
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you're a completely different person
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this is what I say like and I'm I think
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it's really lucky that we've grown up in
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the same direction like a lot of our
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friends who were together back then you
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know like you kind of grow up and you
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kind of Go in different ways but I feel
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like we're closer now than even back
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then which is really cool we just have
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really have the same I guess mindset on
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things we want and yeah stuff like that
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well what does he do does he have his
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own stuff going on or is he part of um
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part of the so he's a part of not really
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he your [ __ ] I mean yeah he's actually
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super so he's in construction he's a
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project manager um but he's actually
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starting his own business this year and
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he's also kind of the numbers and he's
00:16:43
the numbers Guy and um second nature of
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the protein so he um is a lot more like
00:16:49
Logistics stuff that I'm just like I
00:16:52
don't want I don't want to do that oh
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that's cool that's cool I mean you have
00:16:55
your strength so yes and that's what I
00:16:57
think like that's I think that's
00:16:58
actually why we can work together is
00:17:00
because he's really good at something
00:17:01
I'm really good at something and we
00:17:02
can't really argue because we know that
00:17:04
each person is way better at the other
00:17:07
thing so there's not that many arguments
00:17:09
yet so we just started okay so so you
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meet him did you go to university before
00:17:14
summer camp yeah okay so you you go to
00:17:16
university and what what do you do like
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a business degree yeah did business
00:17:18
which is funny that I'm like blah with
00:17:20
numbers because I have a business degree
00:17:23
yeah so what um what what did you want
00:17:24
to do what when you started a business
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degree were you just like killing time
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before you decided what you wanted to do
00:17:29
or did you think you wanted to do
00:17:30
something in business or what I thought
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I wanted to do like fashion maybe like
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be a buyer or something to do with
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clothes but I wasn't ever super
00:17:40
passionate I think that's something I
00:17:41
really struggled with in high school was
00:17:42
like a lot of my friends were like I'm
00:17:44
going to do this and I'm going to do
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this and so like into it and I was a bit
00:17:47
like I don't really I think that's why
00:17:48
quitting swimming was a big thing too
00:17:50
because I was like I feel like I don't
00:17:51
have any else that I'm passionate about
00:17:54
um it's it's terrifying at that age so
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and there's so much pressure for like
00:17:58
18yearold to be like what are you going
00:17:59
to do forever and it's like what you
00:18:02
don't have to decide what you're going
00:18:03
to do
00:18:04
forever no and then and then and oh God
00:18:08
it panics you when there's other people
00:18:09
that have like this Clear Vision of what
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they want to do and you're like I don't
00:18:11
I don't have any idea yeah no clue and
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then that's when I think
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when yeah I had a bit of a identity
00:18:20
crisis at like 21 when lockdown happened
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cuz we were meant to go traveling and
00:18:26
then it was like what am I but what am I
00:18:29
meant to do with my life like I I'm not
00:18:32
good at well the thing is I'm not good
00:18:33
at anything which is so silly to say now
00:18:36
I know that I'm good at stuff but in the
00:18:38
moment I genuinely was like I remember
00:18:40
saying to my mom like but I'm not good
00:18:42
at anything how am I meant to do
00:18:43
anything and she was like what yeah
00:18:45
that's but that that is true but
00:18:47
everyone everyone sucks at everything
00:18:49
when they first do when Ed shiran first
00:18:51
picked up a Guitar I'm sure he was
00:18:52
[ __ ] [ __ ] at videos of him like
00:18:54
actually sucking singing yeah but you
00:18:57
need to you I I've I've just started
00:19:00
embracing failure and the importance of
00:19:01
failure the last couple of years no one
00:19:04
is good at anything when they start yeah
00:19:06
yeah and that's the thing you're not
00:19:07
just going to find your thing and then
00:19:09
be like this is well some people do but
00:19:11
it's pretty a bit of natural talent but
00:19:12
the thing is if you've got natural
00:19:13
talent and you don't work hard you're
00:19:14
going to be beaten by the hard workers
00:19:16
exactly it's way important so so you get
00:19:18
your business degree yeah and then
00:19:20
you're you're an executive assistant at
00:19:22
Silverdale Asset Management oh that's my
00:19:23
dad's business all
00:19:25
right so not really okay so what was
00:19:29
your job after so I why didn't actually
00:19:31
have much time because I so I finished
00:19:34
my degree then I did Camp America that
00:19:35
was when I went and worked at summer
00:19:36
camp and then I came back and then I
00:19:40
just had like jobs throughout uni you
00:19:41
know like working I worked at R and gun
00:19:43
for a bit and I just worked you know
00:19:45
like in Little retail jobs because
00:19:47
that's kind of what I thought I was
00:19:48
going to go into and then came back from
00:19:51
camp and then like a few months later
00:19:53
lockdown happened and the big plan was
00:19:55
to go traveling and that didn't OB
00:19:58
viously go to plan right okay lockdown
00:20:00
we'll get into that shortly because
00:20:02
that's sort of the birth of where we're
00:20:03
at now healthy Kelsey which is amazing
00:20:05
and I think there's a lot of people that
00:20:06
would be curious how you did it um first
00:20:09
yeah summer camp where was summer camp
00:20:11
so it was in Maine why yeah why summer
00:20:13
camp that's a random I just had a few
00:20:15
friends who had done it I just qu
00:20:17
swimming I was like I feel like I need
00:20:18
to go somewhere but Andrew was still
00:20:22
swimming at the time I think and I was
00:20:25
like oh maybe I should just do this
00:20:26
thing like you can go meet lots of cool
00:20:28
people and I was a water SK instructor
00:20:30
which was super fun I got to go water
00:20:31
skin quite a bit and made like best
00:20:33
friends like St some of my best friends
00:20:36
um at the moment I met at Camp um yeah
00:20:40
and then I thought it's just an easy way
00:20:41
to kind of go traveling without spending
00:20:44
too much money like actually I guess you
00:20:46
make you make money a little bit not
00:20:48
much and your your your s name in brand
00:20:51
as healthy Kelsey now what what was it
00:20:53
like at a American Camp unhealthy
00:20:56
unhealthy KY hot dogs yeah it was hot
00:20:58
dogs and lots of gluten that's where I
00:21:00
went vegetarian because I was like I
00:21:03
can't I can't eat this food it was so
00:21:06
bad and I think I didn't real I was
00:21:07
really lucky as a kid my mom was really
00:21:09
into like healthy food and feeding us
00:21:11
really good food and I didn't think I
00:21:13
put to into two together of like if you
00:21:15
eat crap I was like I'm going to feel
00:21:17
like crap and so for three months I
00:21:20
literally that cuz all there was was
00:21:22
sugar and yeah hot dog processed heavily
00:21:25
processed food American food and orange
00:21:30
so bad my stomach was so messed up it
00:21:32
was not yeah and that's kind of why I
00:21:35
started making food when I got home
00:21:36
because I was like I just can't eat this
00:21:40
yeah so were you always quite have you
00:21:42
always been been quite healthy and
00:21:44
disciplined like with the swimming and
00:21:45
you know the nutrition side never I've
00:21:48
actually never been like disciplined
00:21:50
with like healthy food I've been pretty
00:21:52
I guess it's lucky because I grew up
00:21:53
with it so it seemed like normal it
00:21:55
didn't feel like I had to cut things out
00:21:57
I just always ate quite like Whole Food
00:22:00
my mom was really into like Whole Foods
00:22:01
and she'd make come home from school and
00:22:03
they'd be you know fresh food made and
00:22:06
she was amazing like that um but yeah I
00:22:10
I actually I think so naturally I was
00:22:13
but I was never passionate about her or
00:22:15
anything I never showed much interest
00:22:17
actually into cooking as a kid either
00:22:19
what what about the like the varsity
00:22:21
years were you were you like much of a
00:22:22
puss them no cuz I was swimming of
00:22:25
course 53 starts yeah you couldn't
00:22:27
really
00:22:28
parents dream as a swimmer they not
00:22:31
getting up to any this is what I mean
00:22:33
saying that like surfly s was pretty you
00:22:35
did there was a few big parties but the
00:22:37
only big parties are like after
00:22:39
Nationals so you're only going to have
00:22:40
one massive blowout a year really you
00:22:42
know like it's not cuz you are training
00:22:44
all the time and that's what I say any
00:22:46
any like my cousins now are at the age
00:22:48
and I'm like just get them into a sport
00:22:50
and then they'll probably be sweet there
00:22:53
was my parents thing as well they like
00:22:55
especially with young boys like if
00:22:57
they're in sport
00:22:58
that you know where they are they're
00:23:00
around I was going to say and they're
00:23:01
around other cool kids like yeah yeah
00:23:03
it's healthy it's a healthy healthy
00:23:05
Kelsey habit yes oh so um so so you have
00:23:08
some by the way it's like all the
00:23:10
obstacles with you and your now fiance
00:23:13
um you know just looking back you know
00:23:15
him and den you're in America and stuff
00:23:17
like the fact that you've remained
00:23:18
through all that it's it's um something
00:23:20
special I think really I know it's
00:23:22
pretty crazy we think that now we're
00:23:23
like oh yeah I don't know I honestly
00:23:25
don't know how cuz people say that like
00:23:27
how did you go get past like Teenage
00:23:29
crap cuz like there's so many like
00:23:31
Teenage relationships some most of the
00:23:33
time you know are just a bit drammer I
00:23:36
like yeah I don't know how we ended up
00:23:38
just staying together it must have just
00:23:40
really liked each other yeah I know I
00:23:42
know
00:23:43
know okay so so lockdown so lockdown
00:23:47
starts when was that 2020 that was 2020
00:23:50
right yeah like March 2020 yeah so you
00:23:52
and Andrew were planning on going
00:23:53
overseas just to do your OE yeah so we
00:23:55
were like let's go we actually had in a
00:23:57
Paul we were going to do the Anapa Trail
00:23:59
in Napal which we still haven't done I
00:24:01
really want to do it um and then 4 days
00:24:04
before I think we were me to go that was
00:24:06
when lockdown happened so it was like oh
00:24:10
no oh no what am I going to do I don't
00:24:12
want to because the whole plan you know
00:24:14
go on my OE OE and I don't have to be an
00:24:16
adult quite yet I'll just drag that out
00:24:18
for as long as I can well also I suppose
00:24:21
in your in your defense um like you
00:24:24
being a swimmer you make a lot of
00:24:25
sacrifices so I suppose you had some
00:24:27
catching up to delived up um so then so
00:24:30
then how do you how do you feel at that
00:24:32
point like can you take us back to that
00:24:33
moment like are you sort of like what
00:24:35
the [ __ ] that was when I was like I had
00:24:37
my big I'm not good at anything speech
00:24:40
and I was like I genuinely don't know
00:24:43
what I'm going to do I'm going to have
00:24:44
to you know get a real job and be an
00:24:47
adult but I was like I don't want to do
00:24:49
just something I really would like to be
00:24:50
passionate about something and then I
00:24:53
kind of let myself be a bit me for a
00:24:56
couple days and I was like okay we're
00:24:57
done we're done done with that we need
00:24:58
to sort something out and so throughout
00:25:00
we went up to Mom and Dad's place up
00:25:02
North for the lockdown and I was like
00:25:05
okay in this time I'm going to find
00:25:06
something that I love doing and actually
00:25:10
before that I started to get into making
00:25:13
food because from the summer camp food I
00:25:16
was just like coming home to be I was
00:25:17
like I need to come home and make some
00:25:19
real food so I did actually get quite
00:25:21
into cooking and making recipes and then
00:25:24
that was when I was like oh maybe I'll
00:25:25
set up an
00:25:26
Instagram just to like share recipes I
00:25:28
didn't even think that was people's jobs
00:25:31
like I I remember being like this would
00:25:33
just be for fun and cuz yeah I just
00:25:36
didn't honestly didn't cross my mind
00:25:38
that it could be someone's job um and
00:25:42
then I remember having like different
00:25:43
business ideas every single day I'd like
00:25:45
go into dad's room and be like I've got
00:25:46
a new idea this is the one this is the
00:25:49
idea and he's like
00:25:51
okay and I just remember like yelling
00:25:53
out different things and then what can
00:25:55
you remember what some of them were I
00:25:56
one of them was like a porridge car
00:25:57
Caravan cuz I was really into porridge
00:25:59
at the time and I was like I'm going to
00:26:01
do make a porridge I know and then
00:26:03
another one I can't remember maybe like
00:26:05
oh selling raw slices cuz I was quite
00:26:07
into making raw slices which is a good
00:26:09
idea it's just it's a very I was like I
00:26:10
think I might get sick of making raw
00:26:12
slices all the time if I do that um and
00:26:16
then after kind of I was scrolling on
00:26:19
Instagram and I found other food blogs
00:26:20
and I was like oh this is people's jobs
00:26:22
like people actually make food as a
00:26:25
living and that's so cool so I was like
00:26:27
maybe maybe I'll write like an ebook
00:26:29
that I could sell online and then that
00:26:31
could be I don't know something at least
00:26:33
to keep me occupied for the you know
00:26:35
month however long we were locked down
00:26:36
for yeah so I ended up writing a eBook
00:26:40
throughout that first lockdown and then
00:26:42
I showed it to Dad and he was like this
00:26:44
is so cool like you should send this to
00:26:47
Publishers and I was like yeah okay like
00:26:49
I don't think that's how it works dad
00:26:52
but then it is because that's how it
00:26:53
ended up happening the smart I was like
00:26:57
okay who who's your who's your publisher
00:26:58
who are you with bitman baitman okay
00:27:01
yeah and so I sent them an ebook and I
00:27:03
had like 800 followers and they were
00:27:05
like yeah come write a book I was like
00:27:08
that that is that is remarkable like it
00:27:10
never happens I don't think it ever
00:27:12
happens to anyone I mean if say nar Al
00:27:14
Lim or Chelsea or you know Simon you're
00:27:18
already coming off like something yeah
00:27:20
yeah yeah yeah yeah I literally had
00:27:21
nothing I didn't even have a following
00:27:24
or but they must have seen something I
00:27:26
don't know yeah what do you think it is
00:27:27
you had that chat with your Publishers
00:27:28
what was it that they saw on you what do
00:27:30
they like about it yeah actually maybe I
00:27:31
should I'm catch up with them next week
00:27:32
maybe I should ask that I don't know
00:27:34
they were just like she's going to be
00:27:35
able to sell a book I suppose which I
00:27:38
was just like and write one I was like
00:27:40
how am I GNA I don't actually because I
00:27:41
was so excited about it and then I was
00:27:42
like oh [ __ ] I don't know how to write a
00:27:44
book but obviously figured it out
00:27:46
somehow so how many books have you done
00:27:48
now so my second one is coming out in
00:27:50
early Jane yeah oh good for you yeah so
00:27:55
yeah pattern my ignorance here but like
00:27:56
so how do you how do you make up make up
00:27:58
a
00:27:59
recipe honestly when I first started
00:28:01
doing it I was kind of just like better
00:28:02
of this and a better of that which I
00:28:04
still kind of do actually but now I
00:28:06
guess I've got the system down you know
00:28:08
I know that a cake needs a certain
00:28:09
amount of wet to dry and after I test it
00:28:12
a couple times it usually tends to work
00:28:15
out a couple recipes don't and then I
00:28:17
just get frustrated because not not
00:28:18
being not being like a a a cook or a
00:28:20
bacon myself I I would have thought that
00:28:22
every imaginable recipe has already been
00:28:24
done yeah well that is kind of the thing
00:28:26
you're not really like
00:28:28
Reinventing yeah you're not making up
00:28:29
crazy things but it's kind of fun to
00:28:32
make at the beginning I thought it was
00:28:33
really fun because I was making like a
00:28:36
normal Brownie and turning it into like
00:28:38
a slightly healthier version of the
00:28:40
brownie so that's quite fun to do cuz at
00:28:42
least I'm like you know changing things
00:28:44
and doing it for a reason and it's a bit
00:28:46
more fun to put together I suppose but
00:28:49
yeah yeah it was weird at the beginning
00:28:51
I was like I don't really know what I'm
00:28:52
doing so okay so this is interesting
00:28:55
this is really surprising about the
00:28:57
bookz I would have thought the book deal
00:28:58
would come much later on but the
00:29:00
Publishers would it makes more sense
00:29:02
doesn't it to have a cookbook deal yeah
00:29:04
not really the correct order of I know
00:29:05
doing things but it's um so unorthodox
00:29:07
so yeah so is it just your normal
00:29:09
Instagram page and you rename it healthy
00:29:12
no I started a whole different one and
00:29:14
called it healthy Kelsey so I was like
00:29:15
oh this is going to be my little side
00:29:17
thing but now I don't even go on my I
00:29:19
haven't posted my S one for a really
00:29:21
long time you've got so many what are
00:29:22
you going there to many Instagram
00:29:23
accounts to run 300 300,000 followers or
00:29:26
something yeah yeah
00:29:28
was there like a moment where there was
00:29:30
like exponential growth or did it just
00:29:31
slowly over summer last year actually
00:29:34
Instagram's a bit of a weird one like it
00:29:36
it goes flat and then I'll get like
00:29:39
100,000 followers and then it will just
00:29:41
stop for six months and then I'll get I
00:29:43
think it's from reals now reals you
00:29:45
expose yourself to a lot more people
00:29:48
that aren't your followers um and you
00:29:50
know Instagram now if you even just
00:29:51
scroll on your main feed a lot of the
00:29:53
people you aren't actually following
00:29:54
anyway so there is that which is good
00:29:57
but it's also kind of bad at the same
00:29:58
time because then if you follow someone
00:30:00
you actually sometimes don't see
00:30:01
anything of what they're doing the
00:30:03
reason I follow you did you did you um
00:30:07
have like a good understanding of social
00:30:08
media or do you have like a social media
00:30:10
person now or no it's still all me and
00:30:12
I've actually started up another page
00:30:15
for the protein at the moment and it's
00:30:17
it's a lot of social media ring I'm like
00:30:20
feel like I'm doing too much social
00:30:21
media at the moment but it's good it's
00:30:23
like quite fun to grow and I feel like
00:30:26
my page I don't know if I'd
00:30:29
ever get someone else to do it just
00:30:32
because I feel like it's me some of the
00:30:34
authenticity which is tricky because
00:30:38
that's obviously something I'm just
00:30:39
going to be doing forever but I love
00:30:40
doing it still so that's good maybe have
00:30:43
to cross that bridge one day if I don't
00:30:44
mind doing it and who who who are your
00:30:46
enemies have you got beef with two Ro
00:30:48
sisters you I actually don't know them
00:30:51
Ros and but yeah they seem lovely we
00:30:54
should be friends is it a is it a
00:30:56
competitive space at all or not really I
00:30:58
mean not really there's not I feel like
00:31:00
in New Zealand there's just which
00:31:01
actually maybe makes it more competitive
00:31:03
because there's not that many of us but
00:31:05
no I'm like good friends and like Polly
00:31:07
and like people who have other books I'm
00:31:09
like Instagram friends with so I end up
00:31:10
chatting to and Sophie who does like raw
00:31:12
and free right she was actually EP epic
00:31:14
at the beginning she helped me a lot so
00:31:17
feel like it's more like a nice little
00:31:19
each other on quite I've only been doing
00:31:21
the podcast thing like about 18 20
00:31:23
months now and it's it's a really really
00:31:25
um supportive and inclusive Community
00:31:27
like no one's like you ask someone for
00:31:29
help or tips no one's like [ __ ] off mate
00:31:31
yeah like no I'm doing my thing yeah
00:31:34
which like yeah like I feel like in New
00:31:35
Zealand there's such a small amount of
00:31:38
people that kind of do this thing that
00:31:39
it is quite cool to like support each
00:31:41
other and 100% 100% everyone's trying to
00:31:43
navigate their own way so so when did
00:31:46
you so it started as like a hobby during
00:31:48
lockdown um at what point do you go you
00:31:50
know what this could this could be my
00:31:52
thing yeah I actually from the beginning
00:31:55
I think I was actually when but the
00:31:56
thing is is when I signed to write the
00:31:59
books like books you actually don't make
00:32:01
make money off cookbooks like a little
00:32:04
bit but you're not making enough you
00:32:05
know to live your life I've written um
00:32:08
I've written three books um and uh the
00:32:11
the advant you get a horrible little
00:32:13
advance and then uh you have to you
00:32:15
spend months and months two years
00:32:17
writing something and you get like the
00:32:18
worst hour it's not yet my Publishers
00:32:21
told me they've got a theory that um um
00:32:23
cookbooks and sports books are the two
00:32:24
that sell the most uh cookbooks um get
00:32:27
sold and used um Sports books gets um
00:32:30
sold given as presents and never read
00:32:32
yeah or put on like the coffee table
00:32:35
Yeah Yeah dad here's a Richie
00:32:37
m co yeah we'll look at some photos yeah
00:32:41
so was was that sort of the moment where
00:32:42
you thought I this yeah I was kind of
00:32:45
like what's going to be like in Wiles
00:32:46
that's going to be cool and I kind of
00:32:48
thought it was going to change way my
00:32:51
life way more than it did at the time
00:32:53
you know like sometimes you think I
00:32:55
don't know you work towards something
00:32:56
and you think there one moment and then
00:32:57
you'll be good like I it was like that
00:32:59
with getting 10,000 Instagram followers
00:33:00
I was like I just want 10,000 so for a
00:33:02
whole year I was like I just want 10,000
00:33:04
and I get to 10,000 I'm like okay my
00:33:07
nothing has CH Chang that much happier
00:33:10
yeah like it's fine it's funny that day
00:33:13
I think um that must just be the human
00:33:15
psyche like you you everyone wants to
00:33:17
have that moment that you think is going
00:33:18
to bring you exponential growth yeah
00:33:20
that's people do with money people do it
00:33:22
with everything I think and it's a I
00:33:25
think it takes you realizing a goal like
00:33:28
that and then I'm going to be happy and
00:33:31
reaching it and being like huh I mean no
00:33:34
it's like when you're when you reach the
00:33:35
top of the mountain you got to just
00:33:36
climb Another Mountain exactly which is
00:33:39
the the cool part of it I think it's
00:33:41
always having swimming actually feel
00:33:42
like has taught me a lot of that is that
00:33:44
you can set goals some you set goals you
00:33:47
know and you train and you train and you
00:33:48
train and then you're not going to reach
00:33:50
them for two years so you are doing this
00:33:53
thing that's so hard and but you're not
00:33:54
actually going to reach your goal for
00:33:55
another two years so I think I think
00:33:57
it's delayed gratification yeah which I
00:33:59
think is quite a rare thing to have of
00:34:01
being like so if I do this now in 2
00:34:04
years this is going to be epic like oh
00:34:07
yeah patience no one's got that patience
00:34:09
anymore that is a that is a really good
00:34:10
takeway from those yeah yeah yeah I
00:34:13
think that sorry for saying takeaway
00:34:16
yeah do you do you like do do you eat
00:34:19
takeaways we do we have lots of
00:34:20
takeaways we do Thai and Indian lots of
00:34:23
good there's a really good one near us
00:34:25
um big ticker has really good Indian we
00:34:28
get yeah it's good Indian there good
00:34:30
local tie Pizza sometimes have you you
00:34:33
ever been spotted by like a fan or a
00:34:35
follower when you're when you're buying
00:34:37
unhealthy food or not really I'm pretty
00:34:40
like to be fair it's called like healthy
00:34:42
Kelsey but it's actually like I guess
00:34:44
healthy now I'm kind of like I maybe
00:34:46
shouldn't have used that word but chly
00:34:48
stuck yeah exactly that's what I think
00:34:49
it's just fun but like actually like
00:34:51
healthy as an a balanced thing like you
00:34:54
got to have hot chips and you got to
00:34:56
have all these things I think to be
00:34:57
healthy you know in my
00:35:00
brain yeah well it makes sense okay so
00:35:03
so the Instagram starts growing you have
00:35:05
the book deal then what um that was when
00:35:08
I went to Barley actually right yeah so
00:35:11
we as soon as the borders open again
00:35:13
you're gone actually the borders didn't
00:35:15
really open they were kind of other
00:35:17
countries were but not us so I was kind
00:35:20
of like H if we can go so we did the two
00:35:22
weeks quarantine when we came home here
00:35:25
I was like if we can I just was so
00:35:28
desperate to go somewhere like I was
00:35:30
like I just need a change of environment
00:35:31
I need and I was like if we can't travel
00:35:34
travel like let's just go live somewhere
00:35:36
a bit different like I I love B we've
00:35:39
grown up going to Indonesia a lot um as
00:35:41
kids and I was just like I feel like I
00:35:43
really need to just do something
00:35:45
different so we did it and it was
00:35:47
actually so funny like for I I feel like
00:35:50
I traveled quite a bit as like a
00:35:52
teenager and that it was actually quite
00:35:54
nerve-wracking going on the plane I
00:35:56
think cuz of the whole Co thing it was
00:35:57
like oh my gosh this is scary and then
00:36:00
we had to do quarantine when we got to
00:36:02
Indonesia once we got to Barley it was
00:36:05
just epic we had the best time and then
00:36:08
coming home we did the two weeks here um
00:36:11
and that's when my book actually was
00:36:12
released yeah so you yeah so two weeks
00:36:15
quarantine when you got to Bary just in
00:36:16
a hotel there or in actually yeah just
00:36:19
in a hotel how did you find that you
00:36:20
would you I feel like you're the sort of
00:36:22
person that would have been good at
00:36:22
keeping busy you're not just like
00:36:24
watching Netflix show well see we
00:36:26
thought we were going to be those people
00:36:27
we were like okay let's get up and we'll
00:36:29
do workout and then we got our little
00:36:32
outside time we were like sick and then
00:36:34
we would like do some work and then it
00:36:36
would prob and be like 11 and we're like
00:36:38
oh no so I'm pretty sure we watched all
00:36:42
Marvel movies in chronological order in
00:36:44
the two weeks we were just like what
00:36:47
else do you do what else are we going to
00:36:49
do we're like oh well we might as well
00:36:51
so we tried to be productive but
00:36:52
honestly there's so much so much day
00:36:54
when you're just sitting in a room I
00:36:56
didn't yeah I mean you it's not like you
00:36:57
could do any sort of um cooking or
00:37:00
baking of any note in a in a hotel room
00:37:02
but I suppose I just sort of imagined
00:37:03
you getting up early and just watching
00:37:05
YouTube clips about how to make how to
00:37:08
become even more awesome all day just
00:37:11
all day no
00:37:13
stopping so uh what did you do in B
00:37:16
honestly we just well that was what was
00:37:19
I doing oh that was when I created my
00:37:20
app um so I had this idea to create a
00:37:24
cooking app it was just easy to have all
00:37:25
of the recipes in one you know spot made
00:37:29
it easy for everyone so I was kind of
00:37:30
developing that which meant making a lot
00:37:32
of recipes um that was the first time
00:37:35
Andrew had never really he just had time
00:37:37
off work which he didn't really know
00:37:39
what to do with himself he kept like
00:37:41
messaging people at home like give me
00:37:42
some work and they're like no no no you
00:37:43
meant to be enjoying yourself so he did
00:37:45
find that he found that quite hard but
00:37:47
um it was really fun I like looked back
00:37:49
and I'm like that was one of the coolest
00:37:51
things we did um I would happily live in
00:37:54
Bary again oh it's great isn't it and
00:37:56
it's so cheap when once you get over
00:37:57
there so cheap I think we spent uh so we
00:38:00
spent less money in six months than we
00:38:02
did in one month in the states which is
00:38:05
just mad amazing and so where do you
00:38:07
where do you begin with creating your
00:38:09
own app yeah that was I had this idea
00:38:12
this is kind of what I do with the most
00:38:13
things I'm like that's a cool idea but
00:38:15
I'm like that sounds quite hard I don't
00:38:17
know how I'm going to be able to do that
00:38:20
so I just started I think I actually
00:38:21
just Googled like app developers and
00:38:24
then just emailed some and had meetings
00:38:26
with some to be like how do I create
00:38:28
this and can you create this and this is
00:38:30
my idea and then it ended up sticking
00:38:32
with one developer they just seemed like
00:38:35
they definitely knew what they were
00:38:36
talking about and just really nice
00:38:38
people as well to work with um and then
00:38:42
they pretty much just do all the tech
00:38:44
side of stuff and I upload it and make
00:38:47
it look really nice so it's quite a good
00:38:49
combo amazing and what's um for anyone
00:38:52
that's that that isn't doesn't have your
00:38:54
app or isn't on it is it like a
00:38:55
subscription thing pay few bucks a month
00:38:57
or yeah I wanted to make it really
00:38:59
affordable I actually can't of remember
00:39:00
what it is now but it's really only a
00:39:01
few bucks I think it's maybe like $150 a
00:39:04
week or something it's um nothing crazy
00:39:08
and what do you get for that just a
00:39:09
whole heap of recipes yeah I think
00:39:11
there's like 400 500 recipes now on
00:39:14
there yeah and then just like little
00:39:15
blog posts and it's just a like an easy
00:39:19
way to have recipes available to you I
00:39:21
suppose and do you do right out of that
00:39:23
financially yeah yeah like it's quite a
00:39:25
good I haven't done I haven't marketed
00:39:27
it and promoted it as much lately just
00:39:30
because I've had so much else going on
00:39:32
but I would like to go back and um look
00:39:35
at you know actually making it CU if I
00:39:37
put the next steps into it could
00:39:39
actually be quite a big thing but I I
00:39:42
kind of like it just being a thing that
00:39:45
yeah yeah so how do you like how do you
00:39:47
make most of your money where does most
00:39:49
honestly a big it's really diverse
00:39:53
around so I think being I guess quote
00:39:56
unquote influencer you definitely don't
00:39:58
just want to have that as a source of
00:40:00
income which is like quite a like
00:40:02
probably one of the you've got an eyeing
00:40:06
amount of followers yeah so like I can
00:40:08
charge quite a lot for um posts and
00:40:10
reals and stuff you have to turn turn
00:40:12
much stuff down like I'd imagine there's
00:40:14
some brands that have got a lot of money
00:40:15
like say watties tomato
00:40:17
sauce think that's going to fit me with
00:40:20
my 50,00,000 followers I don't have to
00:40:22
turn anyone down I I can do it pleas
00:40:24
I'll take it you want me to promote your
00:40:27
Vape pins count me hand them over I'm
00:40:30
guessing you have to be sort of likef
00:40:32
yeah it has to be on brand yeah which
00:40:35
some stuff Andrew's like like beer or
00:40:36
something he's like yes give me the
00:40:40
beer we can make this we I'm sure we can
00:40:44
so is that the main the main sort of
00:40:46
yeah and then obviously the app and then
00:40:48
now we have the protein powder as well
00:40:50
so it's kind of all I'm trying to think
00:40:52
if there's anything
00:40:53
else I think that's all um yeah yeah so
00:40:57
kind of a Spread spread out sorry for
00:40:59
being so nosy about the money stuff but
00:41:01
I'm just it interesting I'm in trade
00:41:03
because you like it's been say what is
00:41:05
it now three and a half years three and
00:41:07
a half years since you you launched this
00:41:08
and it's become you've turned yourself
00:41:10
into into a [ __ ] brand yeah like a
00:41:13
big brand and it's it's like everyone
00:41:15
remembers I think I think the thing with
00:41:18
lockdown is people can Tim stamp it and
00:41:19
people can remember exactly how for me
00:41:21
too to talk about it and it seems like
00:41:23
you've done so much in that time does it
00:41:25
feel for you like things have gone fast
00:41:27
or does it feel like it's been quite
00:41:28
sort of slow slower than what You' like
00:41:30
probably more not slower than what I
00:41:32
like I think it has probably gone fast
00:41:35
especially when I look back but it's
00:41:36
quite funny looking back that feels like
00:41:38
so long ago cuz I feel like I don't even
00:41:40
know if I've changed that much but it
00:41:41
feels like so much has changed in the
00:41:43
last few years that it does feel like so
00:41:46
long ago but then also cuz like I
00:41:49
couldn't even imagine not having the
00:41:50
healthy Kelsey thing now like it it
00:41:52
would be so weird to go back to not
00:41:54
having that cuz it's like all I think
00:41:55
about all day so like what was taking up
00:41:58
my brain before
00:42:01
that you think get to the point where
00:42:03
you like you know we talked before about
00:42:05
you crying into your goggles you're
00:42:06
crying into the pots yeah just like
00:42:09
I maybe I'll talk to you in 10 years
00:42:11
I'll be doing that yeah do are you much
00:42:14
of a goal Setter or a planner or do you
00:42:15
just sort of like like sort of bumble
00:42:17
along and think oh I'll do an app now
00:42:19
yeah I actually like I like to think I'm
00:42:21
a goal sitter and a planner but I don't
00:42:23
oh I do sometimes write things down and
00:42:26
is really good like that he's like you
00:42:27
should write things down and journal and
00:42:29
he's very on to with that loves reading
00:42:31
like books like that and stuff um so I
00:42:34
do I do think about a lot of things in
00:42:36
the future and but honestly most things
00:42:38
have come to be like the protein powder
00:42:41
I was like oh so I have this idea and
00:42:43
then in a month we had the first
00:42:45
testings and the packaging and like so
00:42:48
it does happen quite quickly once I'm
00:42:50
like yes this is what we should do but I
00:42:52
do think about it for quite a long time
00:42:54
to be like oh I don't know I don't know
00:42:57
and then make the right decision that
00:42:59
kind of feels right yeah you youve
00:43:00
mentioned the protein powder a couple of
00:43:01
times and actually you gave me like a
00:43:03
gift pack when you arrived with the
00:43:05
protein powder and which um I I will not
00:43:08
use because this podcast
00:43:09
ISS nutrition this is what Andrew said
00:43:12
Andrew is a big fan of your podcast he
00:43:13
listens to it all the time and he goes
00:43:15
you can't give Dom that he's
00:43:19
sponsored on and on to it I'll
00:43:23
definitely try but so why did why like
00:43:25
where do you start with some like that
00:43:26
yeah that's a thing which amazes me
00:43:28
about you it's like you have this idea
00:43:29
and then you make it happen whereas a
00:43:30
lot of people have this idea and just
00:43:32
not know where to start and just yeah it
00:43:34
is I never know where to start that's
00:43:36
what I so who I was talking I was
00:43:38
talking um to Ben who's our he does our
00:43:41
all of our packaging and stuff he's he's
00:43:43
amazing at the packaging looks so cool
00:43:45
and he did he was doing a Rebrand of
00:43:46
healthy caly and I was telling him about
00:43:49
I get asked what protein powder do you
00:43:52
use I reckon 100 times a day on
00:43:54
Instagram and I was like this seems like
00:43:56
something I should do and at the time I
00:43:58
was like I'd love to just do a collab
00:44:00
with an already established company so
00:44:03
that it's easy for me I don't really
00:44:04
have to do much other than go this is
00:44:06
the flavor this is the Taste I'd want
00:44:08
and then he was like I just think you
00:44:10
should do it yourself and I was like
00:44:12
that's a that's a great idea but I don't
00:44:15
know how to do that how am I meant to do
00:44:17
that he was like oh I have this friend
00:44:19
who could probably help you like with
00:44:21
sourcing and maybe like putting it
00:44:24
together cuz head set up head done
00:44:26
packaging for protein before and he was
00:44:28
like yeah we could probably help you put
00:44:30
it together and I was like well I mean
00:44:32
okay and then I was talking to my dad
00:44:35
about it and he was like I think if
00:44:37
you're going to do it Andrew needs to be
00:44:38
involved because you are going to hate
00:44:41
the numbers part of the business because
00:44:44
that's a known fact that I really don't
00:44:46
like doing that part of it yeah and you
00:44:50
and you're defense it's like and I hope
00:44:51
you're okay with not being good at
00:44:53
everything because it's like you're I
00:44:54
mean you're the you're the face of this
00:44:55
brand that you've created you've got
00:44:57
your strengths and and then and then
00:44:59
it's a lot of like doing everything it's
00:45:01
probably it's usually not going to work
00:45:03
like you need to find someone who's
00:45:05
really good at something and if you you
00:45:07
yeah like I know that I'm probably not
00:45:09
good at that plus I don't enjoy it
00:45:12
mainly but then the people that are good
00:45:13
at that are they going to be good at you
00:45:15
know taking amazing looking photos out
00:45:17
of Instagram making things look nice and
00:45:19
selling something um yeah so I like to I
00:45:22
used to say like Andrew is all the smart
00:45:24
Parts but I'm like no that's not true I
00:45:26
also do smart
00:45:30
things I do smart things to him that's
00:45:32
smart too um so it was really good like
00:45:35
when once we started talking about it
00:45:37
because he sets up all the spreadsheets
00:45:39
and the you know accounting software and
00:45:41
stuff like that that I'm just like yeah
00:45:43
no I don't want to do that so and even
00:45:45
just like using tools to organize things
00:45:48
and like he sets up meetings for us
00:45:49
every week to talk about what we're
00:45:51
going to do with the brand and where
00:45:52
we're going to go and how much money we
00:45:54
need for this so like it's really cool
00:45:56
having yeah different parts in the
00:45:58
company but yeah I don't know how it was
00:46:00
created like honestly I remember talking
00:46:02
about it last summer and then now it's
00:46:04
actually gone out to it went out to
00:46:06
people yesterday to actually use so like
00:46:09
oh so it's brand new yeah literally used
00:46:11
today was the first day it went out
00:46:13
amazing why why is protein so so
00:46:15
important what's your take on it my it's
00:46:17
so funny so I probably should have used
00:46:19
it a lot more when I was swimming but I
00:46:20
actually was quite useless at using it
00:46:22
when I was swimming but for me it was
00:46:24
mainly I helps keep me full like I
00:46:29
love to you know like eat something I'm
00:46:32
I eat a lot of food so I'm just like
00:46:34
it's nice to eat something that's going
00:46:35
to keep me full for a long time so when
00:46:37
I add it to smoothies or breakfast or
00:46:39
whatever then I actually Stay full for a
00:46:42
really long time and I don't feel like I
00:46:43
just need to constantly eat which is
00:46:45
quite nice I find Al's made with peas so
00:46:48
I feel like that's bitter for my he like
00:46:50
methampetamine
00:46:52
yep healthy KY you're falling
00:46:56
days it's crazy stuff they like actual
00:46:59
peas right like um how does that work
00:47:03
yeah they must just Mill it and ground
00:47:05
it until it's like a powder which tastes
00:47:09
really bad on its
00:47:10
own recommend but for some reason we've
00:47:14
Blended a bunch of stuff together and it
00:47:16
tastes so good so that's really cool so
00:47:18
yeah I find PE good cuz it doesn't like
00:47:20
mess with my stomach it's really easy on
00:47:22
my digestive system do you find there
00:47:24
still um a perception ESP with um I
00:47:26
suppose females that um yeah protein
00:47:29
shakes are for
00:47:31
bodybuilders you're arms like madon that
00:47:34
was actually like a massive part of our
00:47:36
branding and the way I wanted to promote
00:47:38
it was like you don't have to be like a
00:47:39
gym going lifting all the weights kind
00:47:43
of person to have protein that you can
00:47:44
actually just have it cuz it's like a
00:47:46
healthy yeah and it'll help you keep the
00:47:48
muscle that you've already got so
00:47:49
important as they make you feel good and
00:47:52
like it has all the essential amino
00:47:53
acids and whatever so it's yeah like
00:47:56
it's just a nice thing and it tastes
00:47:57
really good which is fun now you and I
00:48:00
started um dming backwards and forwards
00:48:02
to set up this uh this podcast well we
00:48:05
were both in London a couple of months
00:48:06
ago so you you spent your summer in
00:48:08
London which um this is another thing
00:48:11
that I I think you and Andrew do that
00:48:12
seems Seems like aspirational to people
00:48:14
and INSP so how does how does that work
00:48:16
so you go to London for what six months
00:48:18
yeah and we did it last year as well how
00:48:20
do he make that work like financially
00:48:21
yeah so he I don't know how he manages
00:48:23
Andrew manages to do it but he like
00:48:25
barely I can understand because it's a
00:48:27
cheap place to live London is not cheap
00:48:30
not a cheap place to live that's for
00:48:31
sure but Andrew always wanted to live
00:48:34
and work in London that was something
00:48:35
that he really wanted to do and last
00:48:38
year I was like okay if we're going to
00:48:40
go to London I want to do something
00:48:42
that's going to like keep me busy so
00:48:43
that's when I applied for cordon blue
00:48:45
and studied there over the four months
00:48:48
so I got a diploma from them yeah what's
00:48:50
what's cord on Blue it's a fancy cooking
00:48:53
school it's started in Paris if you seen
00:48:55
the movie Julia and Juliet M Street she
00:48:58
she went to C on Blue yeah so she was
00:49:00
like the OG C on Blue um so it started
00:49:03
in Paris and now it's everywhere um but
00:49:04
they do a plant-based diploma now what
00:49:06
Charles like i' I would love to be
00:49:08
qualified in what I'm doing like I just
00:49:10
feel like it gives you you know that
00:49:11
extra credential and I just wanted to
00:49:13
learn like the official you know Chef
00:49:15
things in what I do so is that the first
00:49:18
set of training you've done yeah yeah so
00:49:20
I was like I'd love to yeah actually
00:49:21
have training and know what I'm talking
00:49:23
about other than kind of just making it
00:49:25
up um so that was really cool to do that
00:49:27
and met some amazing people and from all
00:49:30
over the world which is really cool um
00:49:32
and so I did that last year and then
00:49:34
Andrew um got a project management job
00:49:37
the good thing I guess with project
00:49:38
managing is that like it's a Project
00:49:39
based thing so once he's finished a
00:49:41
project he can kind of just scoot on out
00:49:43
of there which isn't probably preferred
00:49:45
but they seem to really like kiwis
00:49:47
hiring kiwis over there so he seem to
00:49:49
just get quite good did you did you find
00:49:52
the um your time over there I mean it's
00:49:54
amazing there's no better place in the
00:49:55
world I think then Than a Summer in
00:49:56
London the days are so long it's
00:49:58
beautiful but how like in terms of
00:50:00
meetings and stuff back you know your
00:50:02
Zoom or team meetings back home [ __ ]
00:50:04
that must have been a ball like so hot
00:50:07
last year I like it was fine cuz I
00:50:08
didn't have as much going on like I was
00:50:10
pretty just it was just me I was making
00:50:12
recipes I I didn't have an agent at that
00:50:14
point so I was just messaging the
00:50:16
companies I was working with and I
00:50:17
didn't I was right I was actually
00:50:19
writing this book at the same time as
00:50:21
well so I was just like you know writing
00:50:23
and making recipes and writing
00:50:25
um but this year I did have a lot going
00:50:28
on I I'm planning a retreat in B next
00:50:31
year so trying to communicate with them
00:50:34
and then the protein stuff at home you
00:50:36
only so our meetings were all from like
00:50:38
700 p.m. to 9:00 p.m. oh that's the fun
00:50:42
everyone's going to
00:50:43
the I know I was like oh man I know and
00:50:47
having to post at night time cuz my best
00:50:49
time to post here is in the morning
00:50:51
which is great because I you know wake
00:50:52
up do all my thing like social media
00:50:55
ring and then I I go on and off it all
00:50:59
day but I'm not as like on it whether as
00:51:02
there I was having to do it at like 9
00:51:03
p.m. which just is not so good for going
00:51:05
to sleep I don't think girl schedule
00:51:08
your posts I know well can they
00:51:10
automatically post I think you can
00:51:12
schedule them can't you I think you can
00:51:13
schedule them but I still think you have
00:51:14
to click post right but I'm not sure hey
00:51:17
Jack do you know about
00:51:20
that oh they do they do man I should
00:51:23
really do that yeah you can borrow
00:51:25
you're than TI guy yeah that's cool that
00:51:28
was a good break you enjoy that yeah
00:51:30
yeah yeah yeah it was cool it was so fun
00:51:31
we tried to do as many cuz we knew that
00:51:33
that was going to be this year was going
00:51:34
to be the last year we did like live
00:51:36
overseas CU always why why the last year
00:51:39
I think next year we've just got too
00:51:41
much going on we're bit too busy and the
00:51:44
protein like we kind of need to be here
00:51:46
we're you know getting it into
00:51:47
supermarkets and um kind of running it
00:51:50
running a real life business now not
00:51:52
just like kind of a pretend one in my
00:51:54
head so um we actually have to kind of
00:51:57
be here and do meetings and do adult
00:52:00
grownup stuff yeah [ __ ] that's exciting
00:52:02
yeah it's so fun though do do you have
00:52:03
like a fiveyear plan or a 10e plan or
00:52:06
yeah kind of like we had our first kind
00:52:08
of meeting on Monday which is so funny
00:52:10
because it's me Andrew and my dad our
00:52:13
serious meeting we used to have our
00:52:15
meetings in the SAA
00:52:17
now do you have like a a rooll check
00:52:19
like they done fight of the concour yeah
00:52:22
oh my God we
00:52:23
should present
00:52:25
that's actually a good idea that's cool
00:52:28
sounds like um sounds like like a a
00:52:29
Dream Team you know both both people
00:52:32
that you can trust um and just want the
00:52:34
best thing for me really which is just
00:52:37
yeah so cool to no alterior mod at all
00:52:40
yes exactly the perfect people to go to
00:52:41
BU into business with actually yeah
00:52:44
which is fun well that's exciting let's
00:52:46
talk about diet diet and stuff for a bit
00:52:48
you know pack your brains with a bit of
00:52:49
food um I saw a quote from you diet can
00:52:52
reduce stress lift mood and improve your
00:52:54
confidence self self esteem and general
00:52:56
well-being is it sort of like Petrol in
00:52:58
a way like that's a good way to think
00:53:00
you put the the super in your system
00:53:02
rather than the the diesel or the yeah
00:53:05
yeah I think so like that was when and
00:53:08
like yeah I just think whenever like
00:53:11
what I eat kind of as how it makes me
00:53:13
feel how's you has your mental health
00:53:15
always been pretty good yeah I actually
00:53:17
I thought about this recently like other
00:53:20
than my few moments of crying in my
00:53:22
goggles and being you know like but
00:53:25
never longer than I actually do remember
00:53:28
at that time though I went to the
00:53:30
doctors cuz I was actually I ended up
00:53:32
getting gland fever that's why I end up
00:53:33
cting swimming but I was telling him all
00:53:35
my symptoms and he went oh so I'm not
00:53:37
going to put you on anti-depressants and
00:53:39
I remember thinking like well yeah like
00:53:41
what do you what do you mean and that
00:53:43
was the first time I'd ever like even
00:53:45
thought about possibly being like
00:53:47
depressed and I was like I don't think
00:53:50
I'm that but I was like the fact that
00:53:52
the do I was like man I must be sounding
00:53:54
pretty
00:53:55
down if this is what he is picking up
00:53:58
picking up the Vibes I think they they
00:54:00
do um over diagnose maybe a littleit too
00:54:03
easy that's what cuz I was kind of like
00:54:04
we've just had a 10-minute conversation
00:54:06
I don't think we need to go into that
00:54:08
but yeah that so that was interesting
00:54:10
that was the first time in my head I was
00:54:12
like but overall like I actually have
00:54:14
I'm really lucky in the fact that I yeah
00:54:17
have always been quite do do you like do
00:54:19
you notice your your mental wellbeing or
00:54:21
your health takes like a turn for the
00:54:22
worst if you if you're eating more [ __ ]
00:54:24
the food than what you should yeah
00:54:25
probably but now I'm pretty chill about
00:54:28
it all like obviously living in London
00:54:30
you go to the pub a lot and hang out and
00:54:32
it's fun and so I like to take you know
00:54:35
if I'm going to have a really good time
00:54:36
and it's worth it or not or I'm pretty
00:54:39
I'm very chill about things you got have
00:54:43
balance in your life yes I think that
00:54:45
it's what you do most of the time that
00:54:46
yes yes exactly like it's like a 802
00:54:49
rule I suppose yeah what what does like
00:54:51
an average day look like for say say say
00:54:53
yesterday from start to finish what did
00:54:54
you eat ooh oh fun question
00:54:58
um no it actually is fun I love thinking
00:55:02
about food um oh so I had a meeting in
00:55:04
the morning so I just made a smoothie to
00:55:07
go with like lots of it was packed with
00:55:09
so many different things if I'm just
00:55:10
going to have a smoothie it has to be
00:55:12
like a million different powders and
00:55:13
seeds and peanut butters and stuff um to
00:55:16
actually keep me full and then what did
00:55:19
I have for lunch I just had a bagel with
00:55:22
some smash Deo and some Tempe and then I
00:55:27
had a Kucher and then what else did I
00:55:30
have anything maybe a little snack in
00:55:32
the afternoon and then for dinner I made
00:55:33
these like sushi rice tofu Bowl things
00:55:36
for the whole family and then just some
00:55:38
chocolate and some tea it's like it's
00:55:41
pretty right it's fa healthy yeah
00:55:43
healthy Kelsey healthy Kelsey on brand I
00:55:45
was on brand yesterday did I did I
00:55:47
choose a lucky day I was going to say on
00:55:49
Friday it was a cab and
00:55:52
pizza but it's ref fishing to hear that
00:55:55
though yeah that's what I think too I
00:55:56
like to tell people that because I'm
00:55:57
like I'm not I'm not eating like that
00:55:59
all the time like most weekends I'm
00:56:01
going out for dinner with friends and
00:56:03
getting pizzas and yeah yeah so so your
00:56:05
your Instagram how much of that is how
00:56:07
much of that is the real what is it like
00:56:08
80% of the real caly 70% it's all like I
00:56:11
do even though it's called healthy
00:56:13
celsey like I always share like I'm
00:56:14
never like hiding that I'm oh my gosh I
00:56:17
ate a pizza like I'm always share like I
00:56:20
just share food all the time like no
00:56:22
matter what I'm eating I'd say there's
00:56:23
not much that I i' say it's actually not
00:56:25
much at all that I don't share on my
00:56:28
social media probably too much but if if
00:56:29
you've got a pint and um some loaded
00:56:31
fries actually not into not a beer gwn
00:56:34
you know what what is what is your
00:56:35
poison do you you drink honestly no and
00:56:38
like not cider or wine no like at when
00:56:41
in London like if I have to get
00:56:42
something I'll probably get a cider like
00:56:44
a RTD maybe oh God I wish I had I wish I
00:56:47
had that relationship with alcohol this
00:56:49
is what like my whole family's like
00:56:51
whose child are you because this is they
00:56:54
drinking
00:56:55
just like I mean not really like on the
00:56:57
weekends and stuff pretty healthy but
00:56:59
like I'm just like I've never really
00:57:01
been I'm just a weirdo same with coffee
00:57:03
don't even like coffee like who doesn't
00:57:05
like coffee that's weird are you a human
00:57:09
I know alien and at least I'm just like
00:57:11
what like I would totally drink it if it
00:57:13
was if I like the taste of it but I just
00:57:15
don't like the taste of it so weird you
00:57:19
the other day I I um for some reason I
00:57:21
just had a craving for a peppermint pint
00:57:22
herbal tea and I had that and I was like
00:57:24
actually this is I felt better after
00:57:26
after having that than what I do having
00:57:28
like a Milky coffee I'm like a latte guy
00:57:31
um but I do love coffee though yeah most
00:57:34
people do it's a normal thing to love
00:57:36
yeah okay so say if you're someone like
00:57:38
someone like me that's not not much into
00:57:40
cooking but you do want to be healthy
00:57:42
what could you have as an easy average
00:57:44
day like like if you gave me a template
00:57:47
something I I could I could eat the same
00:57:49
thing every day day after day really see
00:57:51
I can't do that see oh there's one meal
00:57:53
that I have like most days but that's
00:57:55
that tofu Rice Bowl thing but I really
00:57:58
maybe it's just because I'm always
00:57:59
having to make new recipes that I'm so
00:58:02
used to like rotating and new thing new
00:58:04
thing new thing like sometimes the
00:58:06
family's like can we have that thing I'm
00:58:07
like no sorry got to make a new
00:58:09
thing I'm always like moving and moving
00:58:11
and I I need new content to post new
00:58:13
content sorry um yeah how often do you
00:58:15
post by the way sorry just before we get
00:58:17
back to oh yeah every day really yeah I
00:58:20
I've been way more chill with my healthy
00:58:22
caly account since the pro
00:58:25
since it's growing like I've just
00:58:26
started that new account I'm trying to
00:58:27
post every day Tik Tok is Tik Tok how
00:58:31
many followers have you got on Tik Tok
00:58:32
like 40 something, um I only committed
00:58:35
to that this year because I was like
00:58:37
that's a dangerous place to be I guess I
00:58:40
would sucked in I'm addicted to T and
00:58:43
it's it's funny isn't it CU I find with
00:58:44
um like my my Instagram the comments are
00:58:46
generally quite nice and inclusive and
00:58:48
then you can post the same content on
00:58:49
Tik Tok and it'll be you're
00:58:52
ugly like oh my God but it's like and a
00:58:56
lot of them are you you know weird
00:58:57
usernames where there's no sort of
00:58:59
profile behind it and you're like it's
00:59:01
probably a 13y old yeah yeah or 60y old
00:59:05
one or the other but it's weird how you
00:59:07
have the same content on the different
00:59:08
platform it has like a different sort of
00:59:10
tone I know it's funny how that and then
00:59:12
on Facebook it's just like my Nano and
00:59:14
being like you're you're amazing so it's
00:59:17
like really changes from different
00:59:19
platforms it's cool do you do you feel
00:59:20
like a um a slave to the social media at
00:59:23
times like you're like oh my God I
00:59:24
haven't posted in two days on it yeah I
00:59:26
I do like to back up content so even
00:59:29
just on my page I've probably got like
00:59:31
10 drafts so that if I am in the mood of
00:59:34
like I actually can't be bothered but I
00:59:35
haven't posted in a couple days I'll
00:59:36
just like use one of the drafts and post
00:59:38
that one but most of the time I actually
00:59:40
quite enjoy making new content I do go
00:59:42
through like routes where I'm like at
00:59:44
the moment I think cuz I've got so much
00:59:46
going on I used to literally every
00:59:49
single meal I would make I would video
00:59:51
or take a photo of because I was like
00:59:53
I'm eating I may as well make content oh
00:59:55
it's potential content yeah and whether
00:59:57
is now I'm like I don't know if that's
00:59:58
the healthiest way to be like it's
01:00:01
sometimes nice just to eat your meal and
01:00:04
yeah like enjoy your life so I'm a bit
01:00:06
more chill with it and I set days like
01:00:08
tomorrow I'm going to make content all
01:00:10
day and things like that um which I
01:00:12
think is slightly a better way to do it
01:00:14
but at the beginning I gu I was so Keen
01:00:16
as well like I was like I just I just
01:00:18
going to make anything contenting it's
01:00:20
going to be great yeah and I suppose
01:00:22
it's the way it's it's in your DNA it's
01:00:23
the way you're as person that probably
01:00:25
comes back to the partially the swimming
01:00:26
thing as well you get a taste of success
01:00:29
and you just want let's [ __ ] go let's
01:00:32
very competitive as well so I'm like I
01:00:33
have to win yeah two raw sisters I'm
01:00:36
Coming For You com down I'm I'm creating
01:00:39
beef with with you and Margot and
01:00:43
Rosa video um yeah oh that's that's
01:00:47
really cool you you're doing so bloody
01:00:49
well that's amazing so so yes so you
01:00:53
just keep doing what you're doing and
01:00:54
see where it takes you pretty much kind
01:00:55
of I think I'd like like now I guess
01:00:58
yeah it's cool to have like goals
01:01:00
especially with like starting a business
01:01:01
like it's cool to have you obviously
01:01:03
need to have short-term long-term goals
01:01:05
and like new products and things like
01:01:07
that so we do have goals set for that
01:01:09
and I love making cookbooks like I could
01:01:11
honestly I would just want to make all
01:01:13
the cookbooks I think it's so fun I just
01:01:15
saw my second one for the first time
01:01:17
like this week so it's really cool
01:01:19
seeing oh wow like like a a PDF or the
01:01:22
actual like the actual book of my hands
01:01:23
which is so
01:01:25
something really really special about
01:01:26
that just because the sheer amount of
01:01:27
work that goes into it's because it's
01:01:29
years of like trying to make something
01:01:31
and then the photos are so cool and like
01:01:34
it's heaps of it's cool yeah so it's
01:01:35
photos of our travels and just yeah it's
01:01:39
it's really cool seeing it yeah how do
01:01:41
you how do you decide um and how do you
01:01:43
get that balance right between you the
01:01:45
food stuff and what you share about you
01:01:47
and Andrew's own life cuz I suppose you
01:01:49
you do sort of need that in a way
01:01:51
otherwise it's just photos of food but
01:01:53
people need to know
01:01:55
whoel whatelse is which I think is a
01:01:57
better way at growing plus I just kind
01:01:59
of just I've always quite liked
01:02:01
Instagram like even just my normal
01:02:03
account I was actually quite active and
01:02:05
posted quite a bit on that so um it is
01:02:08
quite cool to show you know my life as
01:02:10
well as food I found like I feel like I
01:02:12
found quite a good balance of you know
01:02:14
every few posts that will be of where we
01:02:16
are or what we're doing or things like
01:02:19
that and it is quite a good way to grow
01:02:20
a brand where people actually like care
01:02:22
about you and want to see what you're up
01:02:24
to yeah yeah oh you I think you're doing
01:02:26
it well you got the balance right was it
01:02:28
hard to get Andrew on board or was he
01:02:29
always no he's actually always been
01:02:31
quite into it I think he quite likes the
01:02:33
attention well also complaining if
01:02:36
someone if someone else is going to do
01:02:38
it for you yeah hey to pop up take me
01:02:43
this and he's always like get a video of
01:02:45
me the fans want to see it like holding
01:02:47
something I'm like okay no they don't
01:02:49
yeah I'm sure they do okay oh also you I
01:02:52
was saying before like what would be an
01:02:54
easy an easy day that I could duplicate
01:02:56
day after day after day sorry yeah I got
01:02:58
um what would be an easy thing I do love
01:03:03
a curry or things like that and things
01:03:05
that you can make in like bulk is really
01:03:08
good I think I'm kind of debating ideas
01:03:10
for my third book at the moment I quite
01:03:12
like the idea of making it just like an
01:03:14
easy thing like that like where you can
01:03:16
make like a bolog or a curry and just
01:03:19
make it serve you know lots of people
01:03:21
and then you can just take it out the
01:03:22
fridge every single day um
01:03:24
that's a good idea or you Chuck it in
01:03:26
some Ste yeah and then you can just
01:03:29
reheat it and then it's easy to go um so
01:03:32
things like that are really good or even
01:03:33
making like the base of a salad and then
01:03:35
changing up the toppings or the protein
01:03:39
or whatever um is quite a good one
01:03:42
breakfast I honestly eat this different
01:03:45
thing for breakfast every single day I
01:03:46
think cuz I'm always videoing what I
01:03:48
have for breakfast smoothies I really
01:03:50
like smoothies or smoothie
01:03:52
bowls um yeah yeah so many different
01:03:55
things I don't know even like sandwiches
01:03:57
I love a sandwich like with sourdough
01:03:59
and stuff I have sandwiches quite a lot
01:04:01
yeah yeah and and what else do you do to
01:04:03
keep healthy oh you you still like
01:04:05
surfing you surf yeah love surfing we're
01:04:07
actually going on a bit of a surfing
01:04:09
diving trip next month um I love all
01:04:13
sorts of exercise actually I'm I think
01:04:15
maybe since cting soing I'm honestly
01:04:16
happy to do anything maybe other than
01:04:18
swimming I'm quite useless it going
01:04:20
swimming these days think I've done my
01:04:22
Dash every now and then I jump into
01:04:23
chicken I'm still good at it and then
01:04:25
I'm like okay we're good yeah yeah is is
01:04:28
it one of those um is it a muscle memory
01:04:30
thing is it like riding a bike yeah like
01:04:32
you'd be you'd be a lot slower though
01:04:34
yeah and like maybe over short distance
01:04:36
you can still kind of whip out a 50 m
01:04:38
but no way I could do like a 200
01:04:40
backstroke I I reck I would actually
01:04:42
drown like it would be so tiring all the
01:04:44
time you'd be just alarmed by how slow
01:04:46
slower I re yeah I'd be concerned yeah
01:04:50
and and and is like from an outsider's
01:04:52
perspective someone that follows you
01:04:53
like the and from what we've explained
01:04:55
in the last hour like the life does look
01:04:57
idelic you know 6 months in barley 6
01:04:59
months in London you know just doing
01:05:01
Instagram post um yeah what's the side
01:05:05
that we don't see is a lot of [ __ ]
01:05:07
sitting at my desk probably actually
01:05:10
sitting like this on the couch like
01:05:11
slumped down instead of a desk I should
01:05:13
really sit at a desk but yeah a lot of
01:05:15
it is honestly just like admin like a
01:05:18
lot of edmin stuff but like I mean I say
01:05:22
like things like that but like life is
01:05:23
pretty I'm pretty lucky and life is
01:05:25
pretty epic so I I like to take the
01:05:27
that's a tradeoff isn't it yeah exactly
01:05:29
and I go through stages of like I
01:05:30
remember going to London and like I was
01:05:32
like I'm just going to look at jobs like
01:05:34
normal people jobs um that I might be
01:05:37
even qualified for these days and like
01:05:39
you know like Jamie Oliver is hiring a
01:05:41
social media person and like that
01:05:43
probably could be a job that I maybe
01:05:45
could get and I'm like that could be
01:05:47
really cool but then I think and I'm
01:05:49
like oh actually like I just don't think
01:05:51
it like working for myself is I'm so
01:05:53
lucky to be able to do that and yeah
01:05:56
like I always toss I well I don't always
01:05:58
toss it up but tossing it up a little
01:06:00
bit and then I'm like actually no like
01:06:02
this is cool like it is cool it's it's a
01:06:05
trade-off isn't it you have the security
01:06:06
of a job but then you get four or five
01:06:09
weeks and you'll leave a year um or you
01:06:11
can work for yourself and you sort of
01:06:13
control how much time off your head yeah
01:06:15
exactly so yeah there's um ups and downs
01:06:17
to it all but it does look I remember
01:06:19
looking at kind of people in my position
01:06:22
and being like Oh my God that would be
01:06:23
so fun which it is it is so fun like
01:06:26
really lucky but there are it's
01:06:28
definitely quite it's hard at the same
01:06:30
time when you when you say Edmond what
01:06:31
do you mean like just dealing backwards
01:06:32
and forwards with Brands invoices emails
01:06:35
and like setting up content making
01:06:39
content is that you do have to do it a
01:06:42
lot especially if you want to post every
01:06:44
day and have like updates like on my app
01:06:46
I try to do like three or four new
01:06:48
recipes every week um so it is a lot to
01:06:52
and like still
01:06:54
I don't it doesn't make sense for me to
01:06:57
hire someone yet yeah would that be the
01:06:59
dream though to get to that point where
01:07:02
you've got a PA you're being told what
01:07:04
to do you can do what what brings you
01:07:06
Joy all the [ __ ] going to be dealt with
01:07:08
yes that's what I would I would love to
01:07:10
do that but not I'm probably not at that
01:07:12
stage yet so for the F you know however
01:07:14
many years you do have to do all the
01:07:16
stuff like it yeah I was listening to a
01:07:18
podcast with um the guy that set up um
01:07:20
Airbnb you may you may have heard of it
01:07:23
little and he he talked about um the
01:07:26
joury as like a mountain top he goes you
01:07:27
can't just like look at the pcture m and
01:07:29
say I need to get there you have to like
01:07:31
take every step as it comes and there's
01:07:32
no way to sort of Fast Track it which is
01:07:34
how you learn I guess and like the re
01:07:36
businesses are successful is because you
01:07:38
realize the problems and you fix them
01:07:40
and things like that yeah have there
01:07:42
been any like major mistakes or
01:07:43
learnings or lessons for you on the way
01:07:45
I don't think anything major I'd say
01:07:48
definitely yeah nothing that was going
01:07:50
to you know cancel me
01:07:52
yet but there definitely a lot of
01:07:56
mistakes and them figuring things out
01:07:57
what things work what things don't what
01:07:59
things people were interested in like it
01:08:01
would be really cool growing the
01:08:03
proteins kind of just started but it
01:08:04
would be cool growing that and figuring
01:08:05
that that out again as well like I
01:08:08
imagine we're going to have things that
01:08:09
really work in things that really don't
01:08:11
and then like learning from them and
01:08:13
yeah you're talking about that so
01:08:15
transferring that to like a social media
01:08:16
perspective are you are you a slave to
01:08:18
the slave to the comments or likes no
01:08:21
I'm actually pretty oh yeah I mean
01:08:25
not to what people are saying I haven't
01:08:28
actually had too many too many negative
01:08:30
things which is nice not too many
01:08:31
bullies on there um no but I suppose you
01:08:35
do a you're like okay people don't
01:08:38
want I do and like things that go viral
01:08:41
I'm like yes you know like I'm secretly
01:08:43
I am the man like and then things that
01:08:46
don't get as many views I'm like oh man
01:08:48
but I've decid when I first started it
01:08:50
was really determined I reckon my
01:08:53
happiness was like I was going to have a
01:08:55
good day if like I got however many new
01:08:58
followers or and I was like that is so
01:09:00
no I can not be doing that so I'm pretty
01:09:03
good now at yeah you know switching it
01:09:06
but God yeah it's a tricky one I'm I'm
01:09:08
quite similar and I'm probably probably
01:09:10
still there at a bit and I know that
01:09:12
that um you know you can't you can't see
01:09:15
validation from external things like
01:09:16
that especially people you don't even
01:09:18
know but it's I I can sort of justify it
01:09:21
to myself by saying well it's it's part
01:09:22
of this J I'm on trying to make a living
01:09:25
and you could do it even more so yeah
01:09:26
cuz I'm like it's my
01:09:27
job job yeah well you can it's still not
01:09:30
healthy not at all cuz a lot of the time
01:09:33
it's like a lot of the time it's like
01:09:35
some of my friend my really good friend
01:09:37
Taylor he actually just calls me
01:09:40
healthy um um yeah like you it's just
01:09:44
really unhealthy isn't it you can't
01:09:46
because you
01:09:47
can't control it at all really not at
01:09:50
all and sometimes the algorithms are
01:09:52
just really weird what and Instagram
01:09:54
goes through stages where it really
01:09:56
boosts you and then it really doesn't so
01:09:58
it's kind of like I remember yeah back
01:10:00
in the day I used to freak out if I
01:10:02
didn't get any new followers in a
01:10:03
certain amount of time and I was like
01:10:04
that is so ridiculous like no you don't
01:10:07
need to stress about these things yeah
01:10:10
so minor things so um eventually do you
01:10:13
think you'll um this probably won't be
01:10:15
your handle but um do you think you'll
01:10:17
become wealthy kelseyy Kelsey I hope so
01:10:19
yeah yeah
01:10:20
yeah imagine if I made that my head oh
01:10:24
my
01:10:24
God wait followers overnight yeah yeah
01:10:28
I'm not cooking anymore I'm just in resp
01:10:30
all the
01:10:31
time just eating at five star placees
01:10:34
yeah getting bigger and bigger as living
01:10:37
off the the oh how good well good luck
01:10:40
to you I mean like what you've done in
01:10:42
the last there's another quote I really
01:10:43
like I think this was a Steve Jobs one
01:10:45
the Apple guy um he said people
01:10:46
overestimate what they can do in one
01:10:48
year and underestimate what they can do
01:10:49
in five or 10 years um and you look back
01:10:51
and what you've done in three years is
01:10:53
it's quite remarkable it is insane isn't
01:10:55
it and it's good for people to tell me
01:10:56
that cuz I'm like you know in my head
01:10:58
I'm like oh I've barely done anything
01:11:00
you know like I've just been doing this
01:11:02
so it's quite whenever I do things I had
01:11:04
a woman's weekly thing the other day and
01:11:06
she was like wow you're only 26 and I
01:11:08
was just like yeah like cuz I don't
01:11:11
actually do that for myself very often
01:11:12
yeah you're not good at like pausing and
01:11:15
I suppose you do have moments though
01:11:16
like when you got the book the other day
01:11:18
and you have cool but so you just paus
01:11:20
for a moment then you're back on to
01:11:22
looking forward yeah yeah quite
01:11:24
definitely a forward thinker I suppose
01:11:27
definitely need to try to be in the
01:11:28
moment a little bit more yeah so so the
01:11:30
second book just before we WRA up that's
01:11:32
um that's out right now oh yeah right
01:11:34
now congratulations yeah thank um so
01:11:38
what's it called what's it about what a
01:11:39
great time for Christmas yes why should
01:11:41
people buy it so it's called healthy
01:11:44
Kelsey travel kitchen so it's literally
01:11:47
just pretty much our last two years I
01:11:49
really wanted to put what we've been
01:11:50
doing into a book because it makes the
01:11:52
most sense of people have been following
01:11:54
me on this journey then it's cool that
01:11:55
they can see it all so it's got over
01:11:57
like a hundred recipes all inspired from
01:12:00
different countries so we went to
01:12:02
Morocco Egypt Spain Italy it like really
01:12:07
and obviously lived in B is where a lot
01:12:09
of the recipes come from um so it's
01:12:11
really pretty it's got heaps of really
01:12:14
cool photos colors it's just yeah packed
01:12:17
with so many different things so I'm I'm
01:12:19
very proud of this one actually great
01:12:21
gift great gift for anyone this
01:12:22
Christmas yes yes oh my God Christmas
01:12:25
crazy yeah and and 2024 what's uh what
01:12:29
am I doing in 2024 that's a great
01:12:31
question I'd like to write another book
01:12:33
so I think I'm oh God you've just done
01:12:35
one give yourself a break I know
01:12:37
honestly this is the thing because they
01:12:39
take so long to kind of like come into
01:12:41
actually happening that like I kind of
01:12:44
like you need to start writing it you
01:12:45
know a year or two before it actually
01:12:47
gets released so I think I'll start
01:12:48
working on that um and then obviously
01:12:51
grow the protein powder and then I'm
01:12:54
doing a retreat in Bley a like Fitness
01:12:58
healthy healthy Kelsey retreat at
01:13:00
commune which is where I got engaged
01:13:01
which is bit of a coincidence um so
01:13:04
we're going to do a little Retreat there
01:13:06
I'm hiking Mount kilamanjaro
01:13:08
oh no way yeah oh I've wanted to do that
01:13:12
I know my so my apparently it's like
01:13:15
like like um from a physical perspective
01:13:17
it's it's hard but not hard hard um and
01:13:19
we're doing the long way but in terms of
01:13:22
altitude like you you think you can just
01:13:23
boost up but you need to take your time
01:13:25
so I think that's so the long one is
01:13:26
less busy and apparently yeah it's just
01:13:29
a bit easier cuz you don't walk that far
01:13:31
but you really are going up up and up
01:13:33
and up is there something that you you
01:13:35
seek out or no so my dad my dad had a
01:13:38
bit of like a health thing this year and
01:13:40
he was like I'm going to hike Mount
01:13:42
kilan jaro and mom was like I'm
01:13:44
not and so he goes he's like well kids
01:13:49
who's coming and then so I like yes
01:13:51
please put me on the list so so we're
01:13:53
all going to do it as a family which is
01:13:55
so fun see if Mom's going to hang out
01:13:56
down the bottom I think maybe do Safari
01:13:59
and oh how good I know gez it seems like
01:14:01
you got like a wonderful family Dynamic
01:14:03
really cool my parents are epic they
01:14:05
always say they're actually like my best
01:14:06
friends the Andrew's best friends too
01:14:09
cuz my I'm from I'm from like a [ __ ]
01:14:11
up broken family and we're not
01:14:13
particularly close and you sort of I I
01:14:15
like to think every family is a little
01:14:16
bit of [ __ ] up seems they are
01:14:18
annoyingly really cool my parents I
01:14:21
always and as I get older I realize that
01:14:23
you know as a kid you just think parents
01:14:24
are parents as I get older I'm like n
01:14:27
they are the best humans like so lucky
01:14:30
oh you did well and it seems like they
01:14:32
they've raised you well as well uh like
01:14:34
the the lessons we're talking before
01:14:35
about them the commitment of them taking
01:14:36
you to swimming lessons and them being
01:14:38
the ones they obviously could tell that
01:14:40
it wasn't bringing you Joy anymore to
01:14:42
tell you not to do it I think that's
01:14:43
cool it is they're the best they're
01:14:45
really really cool people hey well
01:14:47
healthy Kelsey it's been great to sit
01:14:48
down with you and pick your brains I
01:14:50
can't believe that time's gone felt like
01:14:52
we were just chatting oh it's like an
01:14:53
hour and a hour and a quarter yeah oh my
01:14:55
gosh yeah and I I appreciate it and um
01:14:57
yeah I mean there's probably some people
01:14:59
that are listening to this that are
01:15:00
envious of of what you've done but the
01:15:01
funny thing is anyone can do it yeah
01:15:03
anyone can do it it it takes bravery and
01:15:06
courage and hard [ __ ] work as well
01:15:09
yeah yeah I that's the thing it may look
01:15:11
easy or simple but you know you've done
01:15:13
it yourself yeah cool thank you it was
01:15:16
so nice thanks for having me oh thanks
01:15:17
for coming over I really appreciate it
01:15:19
and thanks for the protein which I'm
01:15:20
going to I'm going to tip straight down
01:15:23
the think cuz I'm a radex
01:15:25
guy no I appreciate you and all the best
01:15:27
for the future thank you so
01:15:29
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01:15:39
much
