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I see you know during the process for
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example when I went down to Wellington I
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saw all these people from all walks of
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life some had nothing they were living
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in you know their cars because they lost
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their
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jobs and you that was triggering for me
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that that's when I was like you
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know nobody should ever sit and be quiet
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about what's happening people should
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have a sense of responsibility towards
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their fellow humans um
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because you know once your human rights
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is gone it is very hard to get it back
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you know when things are taken away from
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you it is very hard to get them back
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yeah that's a fact of life anywhere any
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you know political rules boundaries
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whatever comes in they hardly ever
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leave they they're there to stay and
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that that's just so your freedom
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shrinking and shrinking and shrinking
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and if you're not aware if you don't
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take it serious you know sure people
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tell me oh she's so like crazy she
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thinks you know she's a conspiracy
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theorist Etc um that's okay but you know
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for me then again I can put my head on
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my pillow and say I did the right thing
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for my children for my fellow human
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beings um knowing that I did my best
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whether it worked or it didn't work but
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at least every day I'm thinking that and
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so far I think with this uh mandates and
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cover issues and the way the government
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has handled stuff um I don't think I've
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ever made a mistake I think I've been on
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point on everything that I stood for and
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I'm glad that I did yeah it's quite
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funny isn't it it feels like we're um
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almost at a stage now in society where
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if you have any sort of opinion that's
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not mainstream popular it's just very
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easy to you know put you in a box and
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say you're an alt-right conspiracy
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theorist seems to be a at a a state
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we're at now that's exactly what what it
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that's how it works this ideological
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sort of establishments coming in the
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reason I don't care about that is
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because I grew up in one until I was 16
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the most you know important years of my
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life I learned how these things work you
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know I watched it happen if you open
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your mouth said anything you you're a
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heretic you don't believe in Islam you
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don't believe in the collective uh
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goodness and the greater you
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know whatever you call it uh greater
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good um that's all excuse and
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because you know they're absolutely
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taking away their rights of the
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greater population for their own
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ideology I I don't agree with that I've
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lived through it and I can see that it
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started happening um not under Islamic
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ideology but under a different ideology
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um where a group of people in power feel
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like they can dictate to everybody else
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how they should live that's not being
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free and it's worrisome because I don't
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want my children to go through what I
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went through and yes I know they've got
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a great life they we are in the most
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beautiful country in the world and I
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love this country but um looking at
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oversees what's happening there and
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looking at New Zealand the way they're
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going um above things in New Zealand um
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to me it's like oh this is all
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happening again different way but the
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same path did you did you um you
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mentioned before you went to the um the
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co protest in Wellington did you are you
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vaccinated did you get the vaccine or no
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no
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because it's funny isn't it because it's
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um there was definit like you look back
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and it's um I'm I'm a sheeple I just go
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along with whatever's going like the
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government tells me to get three Jabs
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I'll get three Jabs I just want
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to go with the path of least resistance
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but I look back now and there was um you
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one of my good friends got married and I
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was a groomsman and his mom had to have
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like a fake vaccine passport to to even
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attend her own son's wedding um because
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the Caterers wouldn't let her and
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otherwise there Al and you look back now
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recent it was only like two or three
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years ago and it's you think you know
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she was sort of um almost like a leper
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at her own son's wedding at that time
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and it's only like recent history and
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you look back down and go well maybe she
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had a faar point do you know what I mean
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and there's people that that were forced
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out of their jobs and you look back now
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and it's only again only a couple of
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years ago and you think well maybe these
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people that have had a point um you know
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when thinking rationally and OB
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objectively becomes a
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crime um and you are being judged
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for taking making decisions for your own
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health or um you know doing your own
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research at the time having W with
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internet obviously you have access to
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the best um you know virologist in the
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world the best scientists in the world
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and they are telling you after all their
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years and these are information was
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available before the vaccination came to
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New Zealand and they were all worried
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about it and they were very um outspoken
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and verbal about it it didn't take a you
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know you could just go and find this
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information and they were all valid um
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and make your mind but when talking
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logic or taking ownership of your own
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life all of a sudden is you being a
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heretic what is the difference of today
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and when they used to burn you know uh
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Protestants or burn anybody or
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scientists who spoke against the church
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because Church said so because the
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Catholic Church said this is the science
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not what soans so says not what a person
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who's dedicated his whole life has
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written half of the you know a
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scientific book and uh books and uh
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medical books uh which until now we've
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been practicing oh don't listen to that
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person listen to us listen to me the
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politician who's enforcing this upon you
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and a whole bunch of um you know other
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people who are par in it um and look at
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look what happened today like for
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example with the hatchard report coming
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out yesterday which now shows that
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11,000 uh people were examed and a whole
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bunch of them were surgeons and doctors
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and health you know people in Ministry
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of Health etc etc
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well so what is the difference between
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those people who were professionals
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medical professionals who rejected the
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vaccine they were the best of the best
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in the country they rejected the vaccine
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you gave them exemption but also gag
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order so they couldn't talk about it but
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if I refused to base on my own searching
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of the best sources in the world if I
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was like oh that's not very good for me
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I think I'm going to wait and see what
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happens and then you know I'm okay to
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isolate so why was I a conspiracy theory
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you know like yeah again like I was
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saying before I think it's an easy box
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to put people into that have any sort of
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opinion
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that's not you know mainstream or
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popular it's just it's like an easy box
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just call them altright conspiracy
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theorists yeah well the the thing is you
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know what bothers me is that it's a very
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hypocritical way that um you know the
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our government has been dealing with a
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personal freedom so if I come today and
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I I say I'm a different gender and this
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is my pronouns this is what I think and
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everybody should respect that oh yes AB
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absolutely let's like raise all the
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flags and support um you know um what
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you're saying because you're an
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individual we should respect your
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ideology we should respect your thought
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and we should respect your feeling so I
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come in I'm like H I'm a mother of two I
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am worried it's not enough research I
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don't 100% trust this procedure I want
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to take my time oh you um you know
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you're just a conspiracy
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theory why are are you you know doing
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this it's not all about you you're being
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selfish so what is it either do we we
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either we have the personal freedom of
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thought and choice or we don't yeah
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don't come at me and say oh you know I'm
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I come from I don't know um some race or
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somewhere or some country so I you know
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I'm more accepted because um I have more
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thoughts and everybody's say yeah yeah
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and everybody else has to shut up that's
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not okay if you if you give freedom and
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choice to people then respect that and
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don't be H critical about it would you
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ever get into politics you got any
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interest in that um here I I get ask
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about this this question a lot um I
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don't have any interest to get into
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politics but but you got some very
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strong opinions and you're very smart as
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well but I I I definitely have an issue
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with how the our political system in New
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Zealand has been um sort of handled uh
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we V and we get these people in they go
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to make they're make hang on Kanye no no
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you're being very naughty he's just
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bored about the co chat I reckon but I'm
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not yes well so what he saying is you um
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um so I I believe that it needs to be
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kind of tackled and people we are voters
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and we have rights um but we vote these
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people and they go in there with no
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accountability do whatever they want
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nobody questions them nobody goes and
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holds them responsible hey you promised
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these things where are they what
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happened we don't have establishment
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like that and I believe that we do we
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are in dire need of an entity that
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overlooks what government does in terms
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of making sure they deliver in any
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cooperation anywhere you'll have that
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accountability except uh within this
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government and how you know they run it
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now that doesn't exist in many other
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places in the world either but it
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doesn't mean that it can't exist and I
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believe that it is definitely you know
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we need a whole bunch of people who are
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experts and passionate uh who can come
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and make sure the government delivers
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what they
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promise
