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So, I have beef with this.
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>> Okay. What's your beef?
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>> Back about 10, 12, 15 years ago when I
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was growing up, I had this mouse called
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the Cyborg Rat mouse
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from Mad Cats.
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>> Yeah, from Mad Cats. And it was a fully
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modular adjustment. I got made fun of
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for that relentlessly. It's the same
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thing.
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>> It's the same thing.
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>> Yo, what's up people of the internet?
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Welcome back to your regularly scheduled
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programming on the Waveform Podcast.
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We're your hosts. I'm Marquez.
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>> I'm Andrew.
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>> And I'm David.
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>> So, the last episode we published, we
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published from South by Southwest, which
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was a lot of fun. Uh, it was live
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recorded in front of that studio
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audience is what we're going to call it.
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>> Sure.
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>> It was an studio. It was a group of
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people. It was a fun time. Uh, we
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interacted with a lot of people. You can
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go back and listen to it and watch it on
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YouTube. It was sick. Now, we're back.
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And of course, we did have uh a couple
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of you guys stay at South by Southwest
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and and see some other stuff. So, we'll
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get to some talking talking about that.
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Uh, but there's also some new Apple
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products. The Nothing Phone 4a Pro and
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uh Samsung killing a product
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>> and also our favorite YouTuber coming
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back from the dead
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>> time.
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>> My man.
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>> Yeah.
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>> But first,
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>> did they even test this?
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>> Did they?
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>> I'm just going at it again.
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>> I got a long list apparently.
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>> This is going to be Andrew's rant parts
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of the podcast. Yeah.
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>> All right. Love it.
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>> Marquez, I know you don't watch a lot of
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YouTube on TV. On your TV, right?
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>> Right.
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>> So, for those of you who do
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>> Yeah. Only on TV.
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>> You do? Right. Well, on my projector.
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>> Yeah. Yeah. But have you ever gone into
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the history section to try and watch
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something and realize that for some
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reason on the TV app, it lists previous
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shorts you've watched individually.
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So, for I'll try and paint this picture
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really fast.
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>> Your problem is that you're watching
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shorts.
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>> Well, I'm watching shorts on my phone,
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not on my TV. But shorts,
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>> you can watch 15 shorts in a minute,
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right? If you're just scrolling through
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>> 15 shorts in 15 seconds, bro.
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>> Yeah, exactly. If you just swipe, if you
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just spam through like three in a row,
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does it count all of those as a as
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>> count all of those as a singular
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watching history?
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>> So on your TV, if you were to do that
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very quickly, now when you go to the
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history section on your TV, the whole
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carousel of like previously watched
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things is now just short short.
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>> They should just separate that.
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>> So the thing is they know how to already
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because on your desktop app, it's
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separated. If you go to the history on
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your desktop app, you can either click
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shorts or videos. And it's even in two
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different sections or on mobile, the way
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they do it, which is how they should do
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it on TV, is
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>> in those thumbnails on like the carousel
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of different videos. One of them is just
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a combined thumbnail of all the previous
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shorts you kind of watched in the last
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time you were scrolling shorts.
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Therefore, not completely clogging it
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up.
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>> But on TV, the place where you are most
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likely to not watch shorts and only
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watch long form. If I let's say what
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happens to me the most is I watch
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something like on the treadmill in the
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gym then sometimes between then and when
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I go to bed to turn on I've probably
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scrolled through a couple shorts. I have
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a 15minute timer on mine but that's even
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if you watch 15 now when I get into bed
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later and try and find the video I
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watched because it's not going to show
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up on my homepage because I'm halfway
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through.
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>> The easiest way to do it is go into my
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history and be like oh that was the
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literally the last YouTube video I
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watched. It's not there because there's
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20 freaking shorts in the way instead
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>> and then I have to type it out on the
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remote which is still the worst thing
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ever.
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>> Yeah.
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>> Uh do you ever use the watch later
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feature on YouTube?
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>> Constantly.
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>> Yeah. Wait, do you
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>> I I add a million videos to my watch
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later and I never watch them later.
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>> What? Really?
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>> I used to have that exact same behavior.
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>> How do you do it?
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>> Uh just in the app there's a little
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watch later.
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>> No, sorry.
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>> Like how do you personally use it? I use
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watch later as something I see pop up.
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don't watch and add to there to remember
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to watch it. Not halfway through then
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click watch later and go back to it.
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>> Yeah. I mean, if I'm halfway through a
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long video and I want to finish watching
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the rest later. I used to use the watch
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later feature on YouTube. Now I use I
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used Pocket for a long time. That got
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killed. Now I use raindrop.io.
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I just save them all to that. But I used
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to use the watch later feature on
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YouTube and then I would just forget
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about stuff and then I'd go back and I
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go, "Oh, there's 73 videos in here I
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meant to watch later."
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>> And that became tough. So yeah,
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>> what you can do is you can watch like
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two seconds of it and then the next time
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you open YouTube it's like the first
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suggested video
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>> sometimes.
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>> Sometimes
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>> it feels like it debates on whether to
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send that or not. Yeah.
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>> Yeah.
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>> There's too much content uploaded. You
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just forget what you wanted to watch.
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>> Yeah. Too much stuff.
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>> It's annoying. You know what would be
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easy? Just don't show me freaking shorts
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on TV or separate them. Separate them.
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Easy peasy.
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>> I think we should get rid of shorts.
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>> I don't disagree.
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>> Good luck convincing YouTube. I think
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the stat that I recently I was on the
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Dude Perfect podcast and we were trying
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to figure out how many views YouTube got
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per day.
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>> Was that views or uploaded?
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>> I think views.
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>> I'll go back and double check, but I'm
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fairly sure we discovered that there's
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about a I want to get it right.
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5 billion views per day of long form
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videos, but 200 billion views per day of
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shorts. And that ratio on YouTube and
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that made it very clear to me that
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shorts are not going anywhere.
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>> Every person on earth watches like
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>> two videos.
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>> Yeah. Like one view is like 3 seconds or
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whatever. So
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>> it's like it's like saying like
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>> more than 220.
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>> You know, people eat so many packs of
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Skittles per day, but people eat
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trillions of individual Skittles. It's
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like, all right, well not not a useful
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metric.
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>> Trillions. But the uh the supply versus
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the demand is is crazy. Yeah, view
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views.
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>> I wouldn't say it's demand. I would say
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it's
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>> No, that's what I'm saying. There's not
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as much demand.
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>> Oh, I see what you're saying.
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>> Or sorry, there's a ton of demand, but
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not as much supply
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>> of shorts.
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>> So, shorts just get tons of views
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because there's not that many shorts.
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>> Saturated.
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>> Yeah.
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>> Cuz how long it takes to make a short, I
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mean, is not that long. But into
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comparison of how fast we can rip
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through shorts when watching, like you
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could sit down on the toilet and be
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through 50 shorts by just like
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>> Yeah. That's why the demand number of
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views is so high.
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>> Do you think AI could make shorts?
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>> Yes.
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>> AI is
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>> it's already
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clogging the entire feed.
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>> Yeah.
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>> My Okay, I have a YouTube complaint.
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It's not And it's not a Did they even
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test this? Cuz they probably did and
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there's some stupid apparently technical
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reason. I think I brought this up before
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>> on my So I I use a projector. I use the
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Nebula X1 I think projector. Um very
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bright. kind of blinds me at night. And
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uh I don't I think there there might be
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a way to turn the brightness down, but I
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have not found it. Anyway, I told you
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last week about how there's the two
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different volume menus that it likes to
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just like randomly pick between,
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>> but there's no way to watch content like
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change the playback speed on the
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projector.
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>> For some reason, when you there is the
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option there's a playback speed option
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and when you go to click it, it's grayed
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out and it says not available on this
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device. And I think boohoo.
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>> So now you gota like watch it as it was
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designed to be watched.
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>> You gota watch this in one time speed.
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>> I've We're on 3x now. That's not even
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real. We're in 3x mode.
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>> Why do you hate videos?
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>> It's insane.
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>> I hate everything.
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>> Can I go one step?
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>> I want to move through life faster so I
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die sooner. What? I want to go one step
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further in the wrong direction vaguely
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relative to this, but I was messing
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around with Adam the other day on my
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phone because the new Google update
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changed the animation when folders open
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on your homepage and has this little
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like
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>> the pixel update. Yeah,
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>> the pixel update. Sorry. The bottom row
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kind of like folds out and I just don't
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like it. So, I was in developer options
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changing animation speed and I had this
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brain fart where I see.5x is the faster
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but then I was like, wait, no, does that
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mean it's going slower? So then I saw
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10x and I was like, "Oh, this will be 10
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times faster and clicked it and then
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like swiped up and then it's 10 times
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slower." And yet the the Windows just
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like
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and I was like, "Oh my
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>> I know it's a developer option so you're
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not supposed to really do it or to see
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like smoothness.
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>> You have to be a developer to do it."
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>> So funny though.
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>> It's like the Matrix.
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>> It's It was Yeah, it was like Neo
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dodging bullets. Anyway, I I do I do
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watch content that, you know, well, now
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I watch all content at 1x speed on my
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projector cuz I can't watch it at 3x
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speed.
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>> Nice.
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>> But, you know, content that's made to be
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consumed at normal speed, I will consume
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at normal speed.
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>> If it's talking head 2x, if it's vlog,
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2x.
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>> Yeah. How do you define content that was
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meant to be watched at normal speed? I
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would argue all almost all content is
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meant to be watched. There's a lot of
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content that I watch for informational
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purposes and just to like
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>> You're talking about podcasts.
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>> No.
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>> What is
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>> podcasts are mostly 1x for me.
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>> That's that's the most shocking thing
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you said.
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>> What?
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>> What?
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>> That's really confusing. So, what is not
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meant to be watched at 1x speed?
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>> He's he's explained this. He's saying
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when he's like researching something, do
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the like 2x to really quickly listen to
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all of it and then reference something
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he's reading later.
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>> Yeah. Or jump back to it.
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>> Yeah. or jump back.
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>> If it's supposed to be for like the
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visual, I have to watch the visuals and
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it's more about the experience, then I
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do 1X. But if it's like I just need to
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soak up this information, then it's like
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two to three. Sometimes there's just a I
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don't watch a lot of 2x, but sometimes
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there's a video where it's like super
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grasping bit of information in the
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title. Like there was one about how like
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Earth had 65 million years of rain
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non-stop. And I was like, I want to
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listen to this real fast, but I don't
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have time for it. So quick 2x to
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basically just like 30 minutes later be
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like it had a lot of rain. That was
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crazy about this for
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>> fair. I'm not on YouTube to view your
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art. I'm there to learn things.
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>> How dare you?
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>> This podcast is art.
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>> You know who
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30 frames 1 second podcast at 1x speed
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generally is because I don't have enough
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new podcasts today. And if I run out
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then how am I supposed to feel with my
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thoughts?
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slow it down.
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>> I would panic.
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>> No, actually yesterday I did go to the
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gym without anything and it was I raw
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dogged. It was crazy.
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>> The gym with no raw dog the gym.
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>> He just didn't work out either. He just
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stood there the whole
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>> looked looked in the mirror for 45
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minutes and was like, I hate this. Why
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do people do this?
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>> Anyway, okay, we should move on. Uh we
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were at South by Southwest as we just
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talked about. So, we wanted to mention a
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few of the highlights that we saw in
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Austin, Texas
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>> in the extremely short amount of time we
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were there. Some of us.
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>> Yeah,
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>> I think like 24 hours.
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>> Yeah, Marquez, Adam, and I were there
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for less than 24 hours and then David
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and Ellis stayed for two days. Sunday.
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>> Yeah, stayed till Sunday.
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>> Um, we saw
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>> Wait, wait. First,
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>> yes.
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>> Thank you to everyone who came.
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>> Yes, that was amazing.
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>> That was so much fun. And also, we we
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met so many of you and you guys were all
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so nice and cool and fun and that was
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great. I had so much fun. The crowd was
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a little smaller than last time, but I
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would argue louder and more rambunct. Oh
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yeah, Marquez on the audio said 30,000.
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It was probably like 25,000.
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>> Um, a little less than we thought, but
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crowd was awesome. Questions were great.
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Whoever we met, super cool. We met some
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people at In-N-Out like the night
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before, which was really awesome.
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>> And Ellis, so some other people we met
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at In-N-Out were in a band that was
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playing at South by Southwest and then
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Ellis and I went to their show. Yeah.
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>> And then this week they're uh coming to
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New York. They're from Australia. might
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and uh and uh
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>> In-N-Out is incredible, man. Ask and
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then we're going to we're going to hang
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out with them this week.
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>> Shout out swap meet the band.
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>> We haven't figured it out.
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>> In-N-Out is having a week.
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>> Yeah.
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Bord asked Ellis if he was your frisbee
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teammate. So, we think they just know
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you from Frisbee and not from this.
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>> That's really funny.
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>> Yeah,
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>> it's pretty awesome. It is funny that we
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were I was talking about the like you
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know meeting some of you guys and 99% of
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people who came up and said hi were
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saying I've watched the videos or I've
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seen I've started to get a variety of
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things they say oh you do the the car
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videos like oh yeah or I'll I'll hear
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like oh you do the Tik Toks I go oh yeah
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>> the Tik Toks the guy at fashion week or
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uh uh mega gall
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>> yeah I don't get that anymore but I do I
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think like one out of every hundred will
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be like oh you're the frisbee guy And
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I'm like, "Whoa, that's that's that's a
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throw."
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>> A throw.
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>> Did you miss the the one where they came
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up and went, "Oh, you're David and
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Andrew's co-host."
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>> No, I missed that one.
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>> Sick. Yeah.
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>> Yeah. So, that that was awesome to to
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hear from a lot of you guys. We got some
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fun questions. So, anyway, you guys were
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there for a little bit after the the
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couple days following our podcast. What
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did you guys see?
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>> Well, before we left and they stayed
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there,
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>> right across from our hotel was this
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parking lot with like a Tesla
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experience. And as
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>> I believe it's called an activation.
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>> All of Austin was an activation.
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Literally every sing the coffee shop we
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went to had ads on our
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>> This is what happened to Coachella, too,
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man. The corporation.
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>> The local businesses probably made a ton
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of money, which is probably super
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helpful.
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>> I'm so glad that a little company like
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Starbucks can just like roll in, you
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know.
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>> Um but so, uh yeah, the Tesla activation
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was right across from our hotel. So, we
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came back and there was this flatbed
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truck with a
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>> big glass box and a cyber cap inside of
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it.
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>> Yeah. I guess they had a a bunch of
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Teslas in this parking lot. They had
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Model 3s, the new Model Y, the Cyber
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Truck, and then they had one trailer in
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the corner pulled by a matte black
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Cybertruck that was like clear that had
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a a single
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>> It was pulled by Cybertruck. I thought
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it was just a flatbed. Oh, wow. I missed
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that.
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>> Yeah. See, there it was a whole
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activation. You missed this. So, uh they
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had the little cyber cab in there.
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Someone actually on Twitter pointed out
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that that's the same clear trailer they
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used to bring around I think a Model Y
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when it first got unveiled and they had
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like the tape that they had like pulled
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the Model Y off but you could still see
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the outline of the text that said Model
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Y. That's hilarious. Anyway, they're
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doing the clear trailer thing and
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there's the robo taxi sitting right
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there.
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>> There's a robo taxi. We Well, so that's
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it was there. Then we saw later on the
00:13:57
corner there was another one parked, not
00:14:00
driving but parked. And then there was
00:14:01
other videos of one driving that had a
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steering wheel.
00:14:04
>> It reminded me that that it had scissor
00:14:06
doors. Yeah. But you I forgot they sort
00:14:08
of
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>> You mentioned that every time.
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>> Yeah. Every time I like programmed into
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>> like why did they do that?
00:14:13
>> Yeah. They open sort of like a ladybug,
00:14:15
>> you know?
00:14:16
>> Yeah, that's a good way of putting it.
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>> Yeah. Wait, so we saw one on the street
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that was like doing its thing.
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>> It had It wasn't doing its thing. It had
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a steering wheel.
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>> Well, yeah, but I mean it wasn't What I
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was going to say was I'm confused
00:14:26
because that one was silver gray, I
00:14:29
think, and the one we saw in the trailer
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was gold.
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>> You saw You saw a robo taxi.
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>> It was a robo taxi. A robo taxi is a
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modified Model 3 model or
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>> a robo taxi is an unmodified Model Y
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that is a person in the passenger seat
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and nobody in the driver's seat that is
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operating kind of the same way like
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Whimo is in Austin where you can grab a
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ride from the app.
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>> I think the cyber taxi is a fake car
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made of stickers
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>> with gold.
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>> I did there someone was
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>> Those are stickers. That's the Oh my
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god. Someone was driving one of them um
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like very slowly at like 15 miles an
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hour along the road.
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>> Someone did drive a cyber cab.
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>> Yeah, cyber cab. And
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>> it had a steering wheel steering wheel.
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Steering wheel, but it has no it has no
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side mirrors. Um which is legal. So they
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were going at like 15 miles an hour and
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very slowly.
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>> So when people say that they were
00:15:20
driving around Austin in a robo taxi,
00:15:23
>> in a robo taxi, the
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>> robo taxi is the Model Y. Robo taxi
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service is a ride hailing service of
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Model Y's
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>> like Whimo and Model Y's. So this cyber
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cab,
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>> the cyber cab is
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>> on the road yet.
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>> Not on the road yet. It's the twodoor
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gold painted no steering wheel thing.
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That was the thing we saw.
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>> I thought that people at the live show
00:15:42
were saying they saw that driving around
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and I was like, "Oh,
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>> no. I did see it driving around."
00:15:46
>> Oh, you did?
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>> I did. It was driving around very
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slowly.
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>> Oh, okay.
00:15:49
>> With a steering wheel.
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>> It's not supposed to have a side.
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>> And it didn't have rearview mirrors or
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side mirrors. sidemirs.
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>> Yeah.
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>> So,
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>> allegedly when the cyber cab comes out,
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it will be sold to human beings in 2026
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with no steering wheel pedals or mirrors
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because
00:16:04
>> two-seater. Yeah. Wireless charging.
00:16:06
>> Oh, yeah. So,
00:16:08
>> so two things we noticed is one, I
00:16:11
thought it was to make this confusing
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and maybe helps in the confusingness of
00:16:14
Adam right there is it said robo taxi on
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the side, but that's because that's the
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service.
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>> Mhm.
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>> It did light up, which was kind of cool.
00:16:20
There's this really funny video of I
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guess them turning it off at night where
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like 10 Tesla employees are like wrapped
00:16:28
around the front trunk to not be able to
00:16:30
see the person reaching in to turn it
00:16:31
off cuz I guess that's where the switch
00:16:33
is. Um
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>> they do the same thing in soccer when
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they're about to go really
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>> you stand in a line in front of the
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person.
00:16:38
>> Um the So at the event it has a gold
00:16:43
arrow wheel hubcap and then it was
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painted gold. This was like a big
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sticker that looked pretty terrible.
00:16:49
Yeah, there's a whole long there's
00:16:50
actually a long list of things that
00:16:52
people have pointed out have changed
00:16:53
between the initial unveiling at the
00:16:55
event cuz we all got to walk up to that
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one and sit in it and take videos of it
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to now what they're parading around in
00:16:59
this trailer and I'm sure more changes
00:17:01
will happen. This always this happened
00:17:02
with the Cybert truck. This happens
00:17:03
every time. But yeah, one of those
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changes was instead of paint on the
00:17:07
sidewall of the tire to make it look
00:17:09
like a lowrofile tire. Now, they had
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essentially glued a hub cap that is
00:17:14
larger than the wheel itself and extends
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onto the tire to again make it look like
00:17:18
a lowrofile tire, but they glued it to
00:17:22
the side of the tire. I don't even think
00:17:23
you can like you need some amount of
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brake cooling and I don't think you can
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have a completely opaque thing that just
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seals your brake into
00:17:31
>> it was a vinyl sticker. It was
00:17:33
definitely Yeah, cuz this thing isn't
00:17:35
driving. So, it just has to sit there
00:17:37
and look like a cyber robot or whatever.
00:17:40
Um, but yeah, the the idea is to make it
00:17:42
look really futuristic. And part of this
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futuristic aesthetic is like a big
00:17:45
wheel. Like you see you picture Tron and
00:17:47
you're like, "Oh, big wheel, small car,
00:17:48
very futuristic." So they're trying to
00:17:49
make it look like a lowrofile tire on a
00:17:51
big wheel. And this is the new way
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they're doing it is with a sticker. So
00:17:54
>> yeah, I did see someone post a video of
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them.
00:17:57
>> I guess they didn't really know what it
00:17:59
was, but asking one of the Tesla
00:18:00
employees, this was the one that was on
00:18:02
the corner at the hotel, not in the
00:18:04
truck, but not driving. And the way that
00:18:07
the Tesla employee described it was, uh,
00:18:10
this vehicle is going into production
00:18:12
about next month or so, potentially
00:18:14
available for consumers sometime next
00:18:16
year.
00:18:16
>> So now they're saying 2027.
00:18:18
>> Well, this is it's hard because this is
00:18:20
a singular random employee or maybe not
00:18:22
even Tesla employee. They may have just
00:18:24
been hired for the activation there. I
00:18:25
have no idea. But as a person with a
00:18:27
Tesla shirt answering questions about
00:18:28
the Cyber Cab to someone who came up and
00:18:30
asked,
00:18:31
>> does he know about that said?
00:18:32
>> Doesn't that guy know about I wish you
00:18:34
went and talked to him and
00:18:35
>> I really kind of wanted to. We drove by
00:18:37
it and I was like, "What if I walked up
00:18:39
and just asked like when is this thing
00:18:40
coming out?" What would they have said
00:18:41
to me?
00:18:42
>> I have no idea.
00:18:42
>> We have no idea. I guess we'll never
00:18:44
know.
00:18:44
>> Well, in other car news, uh Ellis and I
00:18:47
got to ride around in the Rivian R2.
00:18:50
This one's almost a real car. It's so
00:18:52
close.
00:18:52
>> It's Yeah,
00:18:53
>> it's like a month from now, couple weeks
00:18:55
from now. Yeah. Right around the corner.
00:18:57
>> Well, Q, what is it? Spring.
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>> Spring.
00:19:00
>> June 20th.
00:19:01
>> It's so June 21st. It's technically just
00:19:03
as real as the cyber cab right now, but
00:19:05
it's so close.
00:19:06
>> It's very close.
00:19:06
>> It's so close.
00:19:07
>> Yeah, we did ride in it. They had a um
00:19:10
activation.
00:19:11
Uh
00:19:13
>> they had an activation there where you
00:19:14
would, you know, go up a really steep
00:19:16
hill and then there was these like there
00:19:17
were these micro hills where you the car
00:19:19
would rotate back and forth really
00:19:21
quickly so that you could like see how
00:19:23
the suspension was sort of like keeping
00:19:24
you upright and you felt like you were
00:19:26
going to roll over but then you didn't
00:19:27
roll over. It's pretty nice. We rode in
00:19:29
it. felt extremely similar to an R1 in
00:19:32
terms of like build quality and stuff
00:19:33
like that. Um you've used it so like you
00:19:36
know you have experience too.
00:19:37
>> Yeah.
00:19:38
>> Um that was fun. We had to wait in that
00:19:39
line for like an hour cuz like so many
00:19:42
people wanted to be in that uh like try
00:19:44
it out. Um
00:19:45
>> do you know is that only the performance
00:19:46
that has that active suspension?
00:19:49
>> They all have uh just active dampers.
00:19:51
There's no air suspension in any of
00:19:53
them. It's still a good suspension for
00:19:55
what it is.
00:19:56
>> Performance has semi-active suspension
00:19:58
and I don't see
00:20:00
other of trims
00:20:02
>> then it must have been the the
00:20:04
performance. So, one of the things that
00:20:06
was really cool about the Rivian ride
00:20:07
along event that I wish all companies
00:20:09
would do is that the people driving
00:20:10
these cars
00:20:11
>> engineers
00:20:12
>> were like engineers and developers for
00:20:13
the cars. Um,
00:20:14
>> yeah,
00:20:15
>> I don't know. I feel like it typically
00:20:17
it's really hard to talk to someone who
00:20:19
had a technical input on a product from
00:20:21
from maybe maybe not for you Marquez.
00:20:25
>> No, this is usually true.
00:20:26
>> Yeah, it's like it's like generally
00:20:27
these companies are like, "No, no, no.
00:20:28
you're going to talk to the
00:20:29
communications people, the engineers
00:20:31
will stay locked away in their
00:20:34
>> There are there's a spectrum of
00:20:35
companies and how guilty they are of
00:20:37
this. I think maybe near the top of the
00:20:38
list is like Apple. You only talk to PR
00:20:41
people and marketing people.
00:20:43
>> But on the other side of the spectrum,
00:20:44
there are companies who it's like
00:20:46
especially a lot of auto companies, you
00:20:47
will sit in the car with the chassis
00:20:49
engineer or the people who actually
00:20:51
helped to make that product happen,
00:20:52
which is much more interesting to me.
00:20:54
>> Yeah. Anyway, I I was very like, "Tell
00:20:56
me everything the car knows about what's
00:20:59
going on right now." And I got a pretty
00:21:02
detailed explanation of I mean, as
00:21:03
detailed as you could be, the whole ride
00:21:04
along is like 45 seconds. So, I was
00:21:06
like, "Se
00:21:09
2x speed." Um, it does say unique to
00:21:11
performance trim is an active
00:21:12
suspension. Semi-active suspension.
00:21:14
>> They uh they had all these cool plaid
00:21:16
colors. Um, I say plaid because it's
00:21:19
like stripes of color that kind of like
00:21:21
overlay over each other, kind of like a
00:21:22
weave, like a basket weave. more vinyl
00:21:24
stickers.
00:21:25
>> Um, probably. Uh, but everyone was like,
00:21:28
"Oh, these colors are so cool." And then
00:21:29
they were like, "But we're not going to
00:21:31
sell them." They're selling Yeah,
00:21:33
they're selling a few colors. They're
00:21:34
selling gray, um, gray, gray,
00:21:38
>> uh,
00:21:38
>> per gray.
00:21:39
>> Purple, gray, and gray.
00:21:41
>> And gray.
00:21:42
>> Oh, there's also a green gray and a gray
00:21:43
green.
00:21:45
>> Yeah.
00:21:47
>> Yeah. Somebody had tweeted like, "Oh,
00:21:49
these colors are so awesome. Like, why
00:21:51
aren't you going to sell these?" And
00:21:52
Rivian responded like, "We love the
00:21:54
color selection that we chose." And I
00:21:55
was like,
00:21:56
>> "That's the PR person. Gray, gray, and
00:21:59
gray." Uh, I think that they just like
00:22:01
are if you want a fun color, you have to
00:22:02
pay way more money. I think that's the
00:22:04
move.
00:22:04
>> I'm not super in the off-roading world,
00:22:06
but the liveries on the like show cars
00:22:09
they had at Southby to me looked like
00:22:10
they were inspired by the classic Baja
00:22:13
trucks. If you know any of those
00:22:15
liveries, just for audio listeners who
00:22:16
are trying to
00:22:17
>> like Who let the dogs out kind of thing?
00:22:19
>> No, like the drink at Taco Bell. Oh,
00:22:21
>> no. No. Like Baja, the the famous
00:22:23
off-road truck race,
00:22:25
>> right?
00:22:25
>> Yeah. Yeah. I wonder about this
00:22:27
sometimes. Like I almost want to start a
00:22:29
formal petition like, "Riven, please
00:22:32
sell us the wrapped R2. It looks so
00:22:34
cool." Remember the camouflage wrap from
00:22:36
our initial autofocus video, which was
00:22:37
like R2-D2 themed. A lot of people were
00:22:39
like, "This looks sick. I would want one
00:22:41
of these." And I just wonder what, you
00:22:43
know, companies tend not to do wraps.
00:22:45
Maybe they're worried about like vinyl
00:22:46
getting damaged or like people having a
00:22:48
weird experience versus paint. I don't
00:22:50
know. But I wish they would sell us
00:22:51
these looks. They look cool.
00:22:52
>> Yeah.
00:22:53
>> Anyway, yeah. I mean, I guess you could
00:22:55
go get a wrap separately and people will
00:22:57
and etc., but those do cost a lot of
00:22:58
money.
00:22:59
>> Um, so that was fun. Uh, there was also
00:23:02
the also bike, which is the Rivian sort
00:23:05
of spin-off company. We saw a guy riding
00:23:07
it
00:23:08
>> and he told us that we could ride it and
00:23:10
then we forgot to do it. We were going
00:23:12
to do it and then we forgot. But
00:23:14
apparently they're pretty cool. They
00:23:15
look pretty interesting. They look kind
00:23:16
of like a combination between like a
00:23:18
nothing phone and like an Apple product.
00:23:21
>> It It looks like a like a weird like
00:23:24
future bike from Meet the Robinsons that
00:23:26
someone attached a like teenage
00:23:28
engineering box.
00:23:29
>> Yeah. The box like by the pedals feels
00:23:31
very Teenage Engineering.
00:23:32
>> Yeah. And I know that uh Quinn Snazzy
00:23:34
Labs has done a video, maybe just a
00:23:37
short or something about it. He got to
00:23:38
go test it out for a while. A few people
00:23:40
have. Seem pretty cool. They're very
00:23:42
expensive, but they're they're pretty
00:23:43
neat.
00:23:44
Um, so that was neat. And then Ellis and
00:23:47
I made a uh made a little hike out to
00:23:50
the outskirts of Austin to see the Brain
00:23:52
Audio.
00:23:53
>> I don't know. I don't know if it's fair
00:23:54
to call it. It's just South Congress.
00:23:55
>> Well, I've never been there, so I'm
00:23:58
going to call it upstate New York.
00:24:01
>> It's Westchester. It's Westchester.
00:24:04
>> No, we went we we we walked about 3/4 of
00:24:07
a mile south of the river,
00:24:10
>> the outskirts Ellis. It was hot. It was
00:24:12
so hot.
00:24:13
>> It was hot. Yeah. We met up with a Brain
00:24:15
Audio at the Brain Store. Uh Brain Audio
00:24:18
being that company that um we made a
00:24:20
video studio video of a little bit ago
00:24:22
uh that people got really mad at the way
00:24:23
we titled it, but I don't care.
00:24:24
>> The speaker broke physics.
00:24:26
>> Um and they are working on a new product
00:24:28
that they just unveiled at CES. We
00:24:29
weren't at CES, so we didn't get to see
00:24:30
it there. It's called the Party Pro.
00:24:32
>> Yeah.
00:24:32
>> Um and it has the updated version of
00:24:35
their RAD driver, which is like this
00:24:37
subwoofer mechanism that they've
00:24:39
developed. Uh yeah. And um
00:24:41
>> it's got the power of nine Brain X's,
00:24:44
>> something like that. It's crazy. It's
00:24:45
just like
00:24:46
>> it's crazy. This So this new speaker is
00:24:48
like bigger than
00:24:50
>> Brain. It's like we There's a Brain X
00:24:52
sitting right off camera over here. Um
00:24:54
>> it's lunchbox sized.
00:24:55
>> Yeah, this is this is like Brain X is
00:24:57
like lunchbox size. Party Pro is like
00:25:00
>> big,
00:25:01
>> like large microwave size. That's a good
00:25:04
way to
00:25:04
>> um describe it. And it's just one of
00:25:06
those things where you look at it and
00:25:07
you go, I can imagine how much bass that
00:25:10
box will produce and then you go, "Oh
00:25:12
my, oh my goodness."
00:25:14
>> It's crazy. Um, and there's a bunch of
00:25:16
really cool features that I'm super
00:25:17
excited for and it just seems like we're
00:25:19
closer and closer to this rad technology
00:25:23
being in like actual
00:25:26
>> commercial speakers.
00:25:27
>> Just crossed my mind as you're as we
00:25:28
were talking about the title that we
00:25:30
used for the brain video and the meta of
00:25:33
reviewing tech on YouTube. You're saying
00:25:35
we get the technical information from
00:25:37
the the manufacturer which then gets
00:25:39
obfiscated into more marketing everyday
00:25:43
terminology to get given to us which
00:25:45
then we break down into technical
00:25:47
information to understand better and
00:25:49
then re turn back into
00:25:52
>> I can I can all just birds
00:25:56
>> I I went to a talk see so if you don't
00:25:59
know what South by Southwest is it's
00:26:00
like this everything
00:26:02
it's the conction convention.
00:26:05
>> And so I went to this talk that was this
00:26:06
the chief marketing officers of
00:26:09
>> Under Armour, the TOVA uh cowboy boot
00:26:13
and then like a major tech company, tech
00:26:16
conglomerate that I don't want to say
00:26:17
who it was for the sake of the story.
00:26:20
And um and I went up to the tech guy
00:26:23
afterwards and I was like, you know, you
00:26:25
don't know this, but you and I have been
00:26:28
locked in this intricate one-way dance
00:26:30
for quite some time. And he was like,
00:26:31
what do you mean? And I explained that
00:26:33
to him. I was like, you know, you're
00:26:34
you're this marketing officer for this
00:26:36
guy. Like your engineering department
00:26:38
gives your marketing department this
00:26:40
like technical sheet that then your
00:26:42
marketing department has to turn into
00:26:43
stuff that the average person can can
00:26:46
understand.
00:26:46
>> Press release.
00:26:47
>> Like Marquez said earlier, a lot of
00:26:49
companies do not give us direct access
00:26:51
to that information. So then we have to
00:26:52
take the press releases and like reverse
00:26:55
technicalize it to give it to you guys
00:26:57
who actually do care about that
00:26:58
technical information. Um, and so I
00:27:00
explained it. I was like I was like I've
00:27:02
been doing this dance with you and your
00:27:04
marketing department for for years now
00:27:06
man.
00:27:06
>> Yeah.
00:27:07
>> How much is this speaker going to cost?
00:27:08
>> Oh no. I don't know.
00:27:10
>> But cuz at the risk of sounding like an
00:27:13
>> who cares?
00:27:14
>> It's going to be It sounds I mean the
00:27:16
way you're describing it, it sounds like
00:27:17
it's not.
00:27:18
>> It sounds like it's going to be so
00:27:19
expensive that no one's going to be able
00:27:20
to buy it.
00:27:21
>> Hold on. There's two things I want to
00:27:22
say that. The first is I'm going to
00:27:23
steal what David was about to say
00:27:24
because it relates to this which is we
00:27:25
cover a lot of like flagship huge tech.
00:27:28
The cool part about Brain and working
00:27:30
with Brain and talking with these guys
00:27:32
is that they are the epitome of like two
00:27:34
guys with a garage who are like actually
00:27:37
changing the game and making something
00:27:39
really really cool and unique and uh
00:27:42
even though it's again it's like this is
00:27:43
a marketed as a party speaker.
00:27:46
>> You know, I don't think either of any of
00:27:48
us are the kind of people that like pull
00:27:49
up to the beach with like a big giant
00:27:51
speaker.
00:27:51
>> Um
00:27:52
>> I mean they even said they didn't really
00:27:53
want to make a party speaker. It was
00:27:54
just kind of the natural of what they
00:27:56
wanted to do. Yeah.
00:27:57
>> Yeah. And like on the topic on the topic
00:27:59
of speakers, I I don't know how much
00:28:00
it's going to cost. Um you know, the the
00:28:03
Brain X is sort of the most expensive
00:28:05
one of the most expensive Bluetooth
00:28:06
speakers in its category. Um the cool
00:28:08
thing one of the a lot of the cool
00:28:09
things about the new Party Pro is and
00:28:11
this is inside baseball speaker
00:28:13
knowledge, but there's like this
00:28:14
integrated chassis and then the top has
00:28:16
these like latch points that connect
00:28:18
directly to the chassis. So you can
00:28:21
stack them on top of each other and form
00:28:23
this speaker arrangement called a line
00:28:25
array, which is a really common venue
00:28:27
system. And then also you can have and
00:28:29
hanging points. Now you can like hang
00:28:30
these from the ceiling. So they made a
00:28:33
party speaker, but it's a party speaker
00:28:35
that if you have the right hardware can
00:28:38
actually function as an integrated sound
00:28:40
system in a small venue. And then they
00:28:43
also added like full IO and this
00:28:46
proprietary Ethernet based communication
00:28:48
system. And so like if you're in the
00:28:51
market for like a party speaker, this
00:28:53
will be one of the more my guess is one
00:28:56
of the more expensive things in in the
00:28:59
the thing, it's going to have amazing
00:29:00
battery life because of the rad
00:29:02
technology and how efficient it is. And
00:29:03
it's going to get way louder relative to
00:29:05
the size and weight of its competitors.
00:29:07
Um, and then also it's the kind of thing
00:29:09
where if you're already a dork and can
00:29:11
sort of look ahead and see these
00:29:12
technical opportunities, like you could
00:29:14
actually build a pretty cool room with
00:29:16
these. Or they have the ability to turn
00:29:19
off the tweeters and the woofers and
00:29:20
just have the sub be the only actuator.
00:29:22
So if you have a small home studio
00:29:24
>> at the risk of sounding like who cares?
00:29:27
>> I think I literally forgot you were
00:29:29
talking.
00:29:31
>> Wow.
00:29:34
>> Barking up the wrong tree with their
00:29:35
market. These these are not consumer
00:29:37
speakers.
00:29:37
>> Yeah, the Bluetooth.
00:29:38
>> Nothing you said sounds consisted
00:29:41
by something. Fine, fine, fine.
00:29:43
>> I guess I guess we only care about the
00:29:45
the fascist promax freaking
00:29:48
>> Most people only care about the cheapest
00:29:50
speaker. That's it. That's how it
00:29:52
sounds.
00:29:52
>> The the Bluetooth speaker market is like
00:29:54
one of those crabs where eventually you
00:29:57
just end up at party speaker. And the
00:29:59
further you go from party speaker, the
00:30:01
smaller your market is. And so you're
00:30:03
probably going out in price or in size
00:30:05
or whatever. So like something like
00:30:06
this, a $500 Bluetooth speaker is way
00:30:09
outside.
00:30:10
>> Yeah. Same with like the WLA Phantom
00:30:12
that we show, which is like obviously an
00:30:14
insane that's like a $2,000 speaker and
00:30:16
it's more of the novelty of like look at
00:30:18
how insane this thing is and it's
00:30:20
capable of some crazy things. And also
00:30:21
they're everywhere in Newark airport.
00:30:23
And this is another one of those things
00:30:24
where it's like, hey, this one's also
00:30:25
insane for these other reasons. And if
00:30:27
you're a super audio nerd, you know, you
00:30:28
can turn it into just this subwoofer and
00:30:31
then have a set setup of a bunch of
00:30:32
these you can make into a room. But at
00:30:34
the end of the day, most most people by
00:30:37
volume are like, "How loud?"
00:30:40
>> But
00:30:40
>> and the answer is louder than literally
00:30:43
everything else. I think the the benefit
00:30:44
there is similar to like the DVLAS in
00:30:46
the New York airport of like if you're a
00:30:48
business that needs very few small form
00:30:52
speakers that can fill a room.
00:30:53
>> It seems kind of perfect for that. That
00:30:55
that price point doesn't matter as much.
00:30:58
>> That was practically our South by
00:30:59
Southwest.
00:31:01
>> Yeah, we got a bunch of barbecue.
00:31:02
>> Dave and I had a bunch of tacos.
00:31:04
>> I went to the Blue Sky X onion party.
00:31:08
>> There was Blue Sky Twitter and the Onion
00:31:10
>> Twitter X. Ah,
00:31:14
>> got him.
00:31:14
>> I went to a party that was
00:31:16
>> master but doesn't see him coming when
00:31:17
he's doing it.
00:31:19
>> Sorry.
00:31:19
>> I went to a party that was Kentucky
00:31:21
Derby themed
00:31:22
>> and New Year's Eve themed.
00:31:23
>> I heard some of the weirdest I heard
00:31:25
somebody went to a Turboax party. I'm
00:31:26
like, what are you guys doing? What is
00:31:28
happening?
00:31:29
>> The Don Toiver Turboax concert.
00:31:31
>> Yeah,
00:31:32
>> some sci-fi stuff.
00:31:33
>> That was our Austin experience. Now we
00:31:36
will move on to what this podcast is
00:31:38
usually about.
00:31:39
Oh, also, yeah, we just saw Tom Scott's
00:31:41
coming back, which is exciting. He's
00:31:43
he's a friend. He's been on the podcast
00:31:45
before. He took a a two-year hiatus from
00:31:48
YouTube,
00:31:48
>> and he's coming back, and I'm very
00:31:50
excited to watch everything he makes
00:31:51
again.
00:31:51
>> Tom Scott and I have also been in an
00:31:53
intricate dance that he didn't know
00:31:55
about. Uh, he wears this red uh, Fruit
00:32:00
of the Loom shirt that my grandpa gave
00:32:03
me when I was like five and that I wore
00:32:06
to sleep every night for like 15 years.
00:32:08
And then I saw Tom Scott wearing the
00:32:10
same shirt and I was like, we are the
00:32:12
same.
00:32:14
>> So we danced together.
00:32:15
>> How did he get my shirt?
00:32:16
>> How did he get my shirt?
00:32:18
>> Anyway, he's back
00:32:20
>> with a six-pack and
00:32:23
>> I think we're going to take a break now.
00:32:24
We have actual content coming up. I
00:32:26
promise.
00:32:28
>> I promise.
00:32:30
>> Someone said it.
00:32:31
>> I promise. Trivia. Trivia. Guys, thank
00:32:33
you so much for mentioning the Tom Scott
00:32:34
story because my trivia question is
00:32:36
about Tom Scott and it would have not
00:32:38
made a lot of sense. Uh, one of Tom
00:32:41
Scott's most legendary videos is the one
00:32:44
where he wrote that script and the title
00:32:46
of the video auto updates based on how
00:32:48
many views it has. You're all familiar.
00:32:51
No one look it up
00:32:52
>> because the question is
00:32:54
>> how many current views
00:32:55
>> prices right rules. What is the title of
00:32:57
that video? And I'm going to hit refresh
00:33:00
right before you guys answer the
00:33:02
question to make sure we have the most
00:33:04
upto-date.
00:33:06
>> Remember this is prices right rules. I
00:33:08
>> feel like I should know this. So closest
00:33:09
without going over
00:33:10
>> exactly. So guessing one would be both
00:33:13
dumb and genius.
00:33:15
>> Closest without going.
00:33:16
>> Oh, interesting.
00:33:17
>> Guessing five would be bad. I feel like
00:33:18
that video spawns a bunch of other
00:33:20
videos trying to like
00:33:22
>> growth hack their way into like
00:33:25
>> this YouTube video isn't what you think
00:33:27
it is or like somehow it changes. Have
00:33:29
you seen the influx of them recently
00:33:30
that's like
00:33:31
>> there are five YouTube videos in this
00:33:34
video and it's somebody
00:33:36
>> makes five separate videos but then like
00:33:39
posts it in five different screens in it
00:33:41
and then the audio tracks you swap
00:33:43
between are five different audio tracks.
00:33:45
So like in 2 minutes the guy in the
00:33:48
middle if you click audio track one is
00:33:50
that guy talking and then the guy like
00:33:52
picture and picture in the side it might
00:33:55
be like the Japanese dub the whatever
00:33:57
dub but all they're doing that
00:33:58
>> dub but it's all English
00:33:59
>> they're just uploading something else.
00:34:01
So then like in the top left is a guy
00:34:03
talking that the the mouth doesn't match
00:34:05
the first one but when you click like
00:34:07
Japanese dubick
00:34:09
>> if you watch all of them you get 500%
00:34:12
retention.
00:34:13
>> I love that. That's and that's that's
00:34:15
hilarious. And also that's specifically
00:34:16
like a a very like of the times using
00:34:20
the features like remember okay this is
00:34:22
going to make me sound old.
00:34:24
>> Mystery guitar man. Does that ring a
00:34:25
bell? You guys remember? Yeah. Remember
00:34:27
you used to do like choose your own
00:34:28
adventure with annotations.
00:34:30
>> So you'd watch the first minute of the
00:34:31
video and then there'd be like the top
00:34:33
half annotation or the bottom half
00:34:34
annotation and you could pick one and it
00:34:36
would take you to the next part and it
00:34:37
was a whole series of like a web of
00:34:39
things to get to the end.
00:34:41
>> That was that was sick. That was of the
00:34:43
times.
00:34:43
>> Have you guys seen like the YouTube
00:34:44
trumpets?
00:34:45
>> The YouTube
00:34:46
>> where someone uploads a video that's
00:34:47
just like every 30 seconds it'll be like
00:34:49
a different note on the trumpet and then
00:34:51
you can take the number
00:34:54
go.
00:34:55
>> That should be forever. That should that
00:34:57
should work today.
00:34:57
>> I like people like utilizing the the
00:35:00
feature sets to make weird art. It's
00:35:02
cool.
00:35:02
>> Love it.
00:35:03
>> All right. Well, tell us that trivia
00:35:05
question, Ellis. Oh, you already did.
00:35:07
Yeah. Um, we'll have to think of the
00:35:09
number of views closest to that going
00:35:11
over. Answers will be at the end like
00:35:13
usual. We'll be right back.
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All right, welcome back. This is part
00:36:27
two of the podcast, but this phone has
00:36:30
three parts. It's the Samsung Galaxy
00:36:32
Trifold.
00:36:33
>> Damn, that was good.
00:36:34
>> Thank you. Thought about that one last
00:36:36
night.
00:36:36
>> Why is the trifold coming up?
00:36:38
>> Okay, so we're talking about the trifold
00:36:40
because reportedly Samsung is
00:36:42
discontinuing it.
00:36:43
>> Damn, that was fast.
00:36:44
>> That was
00:36:45
>> That was
00:36:47
That was really fast.
00:36:49
>> I want to make that a sound bite.
00:36:52
>> It was really fast. Um, yeah, a Samsung
00:36:55
spokesperson has told Bloomberg that the
00:36:57
Samsung Trifold will be getting one
00:36:59
final restock today, March 17th, but
00:37:01
after that, it will be gone. Uh, the
00:37:04
decision reportedly comes as a result of
00:37:06
high production costs, which made the
00:37:08
Trifold nearly impossible to make a
00:37:09
profit on. You could maybe speculate
00:37:11
that RAM prices have a lot to do with
00:37:14
that. Uh, the entire supply chain is
00:37:16
just getting insane. And I imagine that
00:37:18
Samsung was barely making a margin on
00:37:20
this thing already. It seems that now
00:37:22
they're not even selling that many. It's
00:37:24
been reported that fewer than 6,000
00:37:26
units were sold domestically in Korea
00:37:28
since it launched. And it launched in
00:37:30
Korea before it launched here.
00:37:31
>> Korea was like the main place they were
00:37:33
selling it.
00:37:33
>> Correct. They did eventually launch in
00:37:35
the United States in I believe late
00:37:36
January or so.
00:37:38
>> But yeah, it's it was a short timeline
00:37:41
less than 3 months for the trifold. So,
00:37:44
>> uh, Samsung did say that they are going
00:37:45
to trickle down the technology into
00:37:47
future foldable devices, but it was not
00:37:50
mentioned about whether or not they were
00:37:52
going to make a trifold again, which is
00:37:53
kind of I'm sure they will at some
00:37:55
point, but you better buy it now before
00:37:58
they're completely sold out if you
00:37:59
really want it. Yeah. Interesting
00:38:01
thoughts on that. One thought is that
00:38:03
you just said is the technology would
00:38:04
trickle down to other folds. I don't
00:38:06
know what tech from the trifold is
00:38:07
applicable to trickle down to the other
00:38:09
fold other than having one more screen.
00:38:11
Uh, you've seen probably a bunch of
00:38:12
videos now in your soap box. A lot of
00:38:14
them were sponsored, but now the embargo
00:38:16
is up uh of the Oppo Find N6, I believe
00:38:19
it's called, which is their no feel
00:38:22
crease foldable.
00:38:23
>> No feel crease.
00:38:23
>> No feel crease. So, you look at it and
00:38:25
visually there's no crease. And you run
00:38:27
your finger over it and you can't really
00:38:28
feel a crease either. And you know, you
00:38:30
get a fresh fold seven out the box and
00:38:32
it looks pretty good, but you fold it a
00:38:33
bunch of times and you start to see that
00:38:34
crease form. And this one is supposed to
00:38:37
be rated for some thousands of folds and
00:38:39
should never appear to have a crease
00:38:41
that you can feel, which is really cool.
00:38:43
That's a tech I'd want to, you know,
00:38:44
trickle down to a bunch of other
00:38:46
foldables. Uh the trifold to me was just
00:38:48
uh Samsung going, "Hey, what if this
00:38:50
works?
00:38:51
>> Let's try it. We're Samsung." And then,
00:38:53
you know, it happened to I'm puning
00:38:55
today. But yeah, sometimes it doesn't
00:38:57
work and sometimes people don't buy it.
00:38:58
And it's also $3,000.
00:38:59
>> It was also really really really
00:39:01
expensive. But I think the fact that
00:39:02
it's not even selling that well in its
00:39:04
like home country, like Samsung is a lot
00:39:06
of Korea. Uh so if it's not selling well
00:39:09
there Yeah.
00:39:10
>> Yeah. They make everything.
00:39:11
>> That's like coming out with an electric
00:39:12
car that doesn't sell well in
00:39:13
California. You're like, "Well, we're
00:39:15
cooked."
00:39:15
>> Yeah.
00:39:16
>> You can't sell well here. It's like not
00:39:17
selling very many avocados in
00:39:19
California.
00:39:19
>> That's Yeah, exactly.
00:39:21
>> The best part about this was they cooked
00:39:23
with the the subtitle for the Verge
00:39:25
article and just said it didn't try for
00:39:27
very long. TRI just weatherbed. Kudos.
00:39:30
Very nice.
00:39:31
>> Damn.
00:39:32
>> Yeah. So, again, you want to get on on
00:39:34
that for $3,000, you be my guest. But I
00:39:37
think most reviews were like, it's cool,
00:39:39
it's interesting, and it's neat, but
00:39:41
it's still kind of lacking. And um yeah,
00:39:44
we'll see in the future.
00:39:44
>> Maybe Trifold 2 is just coming out soon.
00:39:47
>> I don't think that's going to happen. I
00:39:48
will say Trifold is available. It's
00:39:51
eligible still for a smartphone award
00:39:53
2026 for best big phone. It's It's just
00:39:56
even though it only was three months of
00:39:58
2026.
00:39:59
>> That is kind of sad because then the
00:40:00
awards come out and then you can't buy
00:40:01
it. Yep. That would be
00:40:03
>> Have we ever had
00:40:04
>> a discontinued phone win an award?
00:40:06
>> Like Yeah. Like come out, get
00:40:08
discontinued and win an award.
00:40:09
>> Has anything else really been
00:40:10
discontinued besides the Note 7? Has the
00:40:12
Hydrogen get discontinued before it won
00:40:14
the award?
00:40:14
>> Okay. The bust award doesn't count. That
00:40:17
makes the most
00:40:18
>> that was still available, right?
00:40:19
>> It might when I gave it the award.
00:40:21
Maybe. I mean, essential got
00:40:22
discontinued, but it was a while later.
00:40:25
>> Yeah.
00:40:26
>> Yeah.
00:40:26
>> That would be truly unprecedented times
00:40:28
we're living in.
00:40:29
>> Yeah.
00:40:31
>> Yeah.
00:40:31
>> LG probably died mid
00:40:34
>> Oh,
00:40:34
>> year.
00:40:35
>> Yeah.
00:40:35
>> So, that probably means there was a
00:40:36
phone that came out. I mean, the Wing
00:40:38
probably came out within a year of it LG
00:40:40
quitting.
00:40:41
>> Oh, that's true. Yeah. But the Wing
00:40:42
didn't win any
00:40:44
>> The Wing was crazy. The Wing was pretty
00:40:46
crazy.
00:40:46
>> It should have won all the awards.
00:40:47
>> Yeah. Well, speaking of phones that
00:40:49
probably won't get discontinued, Maybe I
00:40:52
actually had a different segue I was
00:40:53
going to throw to because I have Okay,
00:40:55
>> by the time you're watching this, our
00:40:56
Nothing Phone 4a and 4a Pro reviews
00:40:59
>> or one review is out.
00:41:01
>> Um, I'm going to actually hold it. I
00:41:02
have the 4A Pro right here. This is the
00:41:04
pink one.
00:41:05
>> It's not the best looking version of
00:41:06
this phone. I think the monocolored
00:41:08
versions are better.
00:41:09
>> Pinkly.
00:41:11
>> I, you know, I reviewed the phones and
00:41:13
uh I also have this theory because we've
00:41:15
talked about nothing before about why
00:41:17
they're not doing a flagship this year.
00:41:19
They're not doing a Yeah, you can hold
00:41:20
it. They're not doing a nothing phone 4.
00:41:22
They're just doing a 4a.
00:41:24
>> Yeah.
00:41:24
>> And a 4a pro.
00:41:26
>> 4a pro light.
00:41:27
>> Just kidding.
00:41:29
>> It's interesting. And I think, you know,
00:41:30
you mentioned RAM prices. I think
00:41:32
nothing is in a really tough spot.
00:41:34
Whereas a smaller company, they don't
00:41:36
get the best costs because their order
00:41:39
sizes from suppliers are smaller. And in
00:41:41
general, they they probably spend more
00:41:43
for all the same specs as the big, you
00:41:45
know, flagship companies. They at these
00:41:48
conditions can't really make a
00:41:50
competitive flagship. Last time they
00:41:51
tried was nothing Phone 3 last year, 800
00:41:54
bucks. Kind of got flamed for it. They
00:41:56
put a flagship chip in it, but it just
00:41:57
wasn't, you know, a full-on flagship,
00:41:59
especially the camera performance. What
00:42:01
they do thrive at is really good
00:42:03
mid-range phones. These are competitive,
00:42:06
good, well priced mid-range phones. The
00:42:07
Nothing Phone 4a is £349, £349. It's
00:42:12
really good for that price. Triple
00:42:14
cameras for that price. iPhone can't say
00:42:15
that. Pixel can't say that. Samsung
00:42:18
might have a triple camera full phone at
00:42:20
that price, but it's like that's nice.
00:42:21
It's an OLED. It's 120 Hz. It's a
00:42:24
Snapdragon 7s Gen 4. It's good phone for
00:42:27
$3.49. And then the 4a Pro that you're
00:42:30
holding is $500, and it's not as great
00:42:34
of a deal, but it's still pretty good.
00:42:36
>> So, yeah, the reviews are out. I'm
00:42:39
curious, you know, now that you're
00:42:40
holding one and looking at the 4A Pro,
00:42:41
what you think of
00:42:42
>> Yeah. I want to boot it up real quick
00:42:44
and just kind of see the the stuff
00:42:45
again, like you said. Um, so it's metal,
00:42:48
so no wireless charging. Yep.
00:42:49
>> Metal phones are sick, but no wireless
00:42:51
charging is sad.
00:42:52
>> Yeah,
00:42:52
>> I'm fine with that because like if you
00:42:54
give me no wireless charging in a glass
00:42:56
back, then I'm mad. If you're going to
00:42:58
not give us wireless charging, then give
00:42:59
me the premium.
00:43:00
>> Mhm.
00:43:01
>> And then I'm okay with it.
00:43:02
>> True. The 4a does not have wireless
00:43:03
charging.
00:43:04
>> I will miss wireless charging, but I'm
00:43:06
glad they at least gave you the premium
00:43:08
other option.
00:43:08
>> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
00:43:10
>> Yeah. I think that nothing is still
00:43:12
doing a pretty good job with the
00:43:14
constraints that they had. Like you
00:43:15
said, the $349 one is is cooking like
00:43:17
crazy. I you know how on Twitter
00:43:19
randomly some bot will like a tweet that
00:43:21
you made from like 10 years ago
00:43:22
>> all the time.
00:43:23
>> All the time. So yesterday a bot liked a
00:43:25
tweet that I had made in a thread about
00:43:27
the Pixel 4a when it first um came out
00:43:29
and that phone was $349.
00:43:32
>> And I really obviously Pixel 4a is one
00:43:34
of my favorite Pixels they ever made. um
00:43:37
hardware plastic very cheap. Yep.
00:43:41
>> And I was sort of just talking about the
00:43:42
software makes up for it, etc., etc.
00:43:45
This is like I mean the the nothing
00:43:47
phone 3 4a is sort of like the it's a
00:43:52
much better version of that. So it's got
00:43:54
everything that the Pixel 4 4a had, but
00:43:57
you know it's more premium and in many
00:43:59
many ways. So, if you look like, you
00:44:01
know, even if you add inflation into
00:44:03
account, we're how many years 6 years
00:44:06
after the Pixel 4 A and we still have
00:44:08
this, being able to buy something like
00:44:09
that at 349 is still an incredible deal,
00:44:11
especially in the universe we are
00:44:13
currently living in with like RAM
00:44:14
shortages and stuff.
00:44:16
>> Yeah.
00:44:16
>> Um, so, but like you said, it's going to
00:44:19
come down to whether or not you actually
00:44:21
want the extra stuff that comes with the
00:44:23
Pro and if you're okay with the metal
00:44:25
unibody versus the other designs.
00:44:27
>> Yeah. I just find the the positioning
00:44:30
fascinating.
00:44:31
>> I Yeah, I think it's good positioning. I
00:44:33
think these phones are awesome at their
00:44:36
price point.
00:44:36
>> I don't love the pink on this as much
00:44:38
because inside the camera bump, it
00:44:41
doesn't match. Whereas the black one has
00:44:43
a like black interiors and the silver
00:44:46
one has the white interiors. This
00:44:47
basically has the silver interiors on
00:44:49
the camera bump. They didn't send us a
00:44:51
silver one, which I think is the best
00:44:52
looking one. It matches the best with
00:44:54
the red accent and everything which I'm
00:44:56
bummed about.
00:44:57
>> But there's a small example I wanted to
00:44:59
throw in here of Ellis talking about how
00:45:01
like
00:45:01
>> technical versus marketing aspects and
00:45:03
how that can kind of be confusing. And
00:45:05
it made me realize like sometimes with
00:45:07
these uh briefs or like press briefings
00:45:10
and the briefs that they actually send
00:45:12
us feels like we're translators at some
00:45:14
point because we need to find goes from
00:45:16
technical to marketing jargon to us then
00:45:19
trying to figure out the level of
00:45:21
technical and jargon to use. But on the
00:45:24
4A Pro with the glyph system, the
00:45:27
interface, the LED interface,
00:45:28
>> glyph matrix.
00:45:29
>> The glyph matrix. Thank you. Um, they
00:45:32
write it is like 50% bigger and twice as
00:45:34
bright. So, we are doing the script and
00:45:37
I'm like going through it and making
00:45:39
sure everything's correct and and seeing
00:45:40
what else we can add to it. And I go,
00:45:42
"Oh, it's bigger." The easiest way to
00:45:44
prove that it's bigger other than
00:45:45
showing it is to find out how many LEDs
00:45:47
are inside of it. cuz they made a big
00:45:48
deal of it being like 137 mini LEDs in
00:45:52
here. So I was like, cool, the old one
00:45:54
must be less. And then I keep getting
00:45:56
this that the Nothing 3 has 489
00:46:00
microLEDDs while this has 137 miniLEDDs
00:46:04
but is bigger. So their way of of saying
00:46:07
this is, oh, this is physically bigger
00:46:10
but also way worse resolutions. But
00:46:12
we're not going to we're not going to
00:46:13
say it has less pixels in it.
00:46:15
>> Yeah. They'll never say that in the
00:46:16
press release.
00:46:17
>> Truthfully, I don't think it matters. I
00:46:19
think it gets the point across in there.
00:46:20
I don't think you need cuz the
00:46:22
resolution still looks terrible on the
00:46:23
489 pixel one. Yeah,
00:46:25
>> but that's an example of those.
00:46:27
>> 499 is still a very good price for a
00:46:29
phone like this. I just have I have beef
00:46:31
the higher they go up in the range and I
00:46:32
think that would have it would have
00:46:34
toppled with a pro phone or with a like
00:46:36
a flagship phone. So, like the 349
00:46:38
nothing 4a is a great deal and a really
00:46:40
good phone for the price. You're
00:46:42
spending theoretically $150 more dollars
00:46:44
for this pro phone. All you're getting
00:46:46
honestly is the aluminum build. Yeah.
00:46:49
And the glyph matrix.
00:46:50
>> You know, the screens are almost the
00:46:52
same. They're a tiny bit bigger. The
00:46:54
pixel density is almost the same. The
00:46:55
brightness is almost the same. The
00:46:57
cameras are almost the same.
00:46:58
>> The same chipset.
00:46:59
>> The chipset goes from a Snapdragon 7S
00:47:01
Gen 4 to a Snapdragon 7 Gen 4.
00:47:04
>> The RAM is the same. The storage is the
00:47:06
same. It's like almost the same phone.
00:47:08
Pro features, I'm like, "Oh, it's the
00:47:09
Pro. Maybe there's some camera features
00:47:11
or there's some pro things that are
00:47:12
enabled by the software. I think it's
00:47:14
just HDR video on the Pro and 140x zoom
00:47:18
instead of 70x zoom
00:47:19
>> world's first
00:47:20
>> which is just crop. So here the 150
00:47:24
bucks up to the 4a pro is like now it's
00:47:26
a decent value.
00:47:27
>> If they tried to go all that was a
00:47:29
shutter sound.
00:47:29
>> Yeah. If they tried to go all the way
00:47:31
up, I think to a flagship $8900 phone
00:47:34
and put a Snapdragon 8s Gen 5 or
00:47:37
whatever in there and tried to go 12
00:47:39
gigs of RAM and all this other stuff,
00:47:40
high-end storage, high-end screen,
00:47:42
high-end cameras, they would be looking
00:47:45
at their thinnest margins and their
00:47:46
least competitive phone and so they just
00:47:48
didn't do it.
00:47:49
>> There is one thing you get with the 4A
00:47:52
Pro versus the 4A, which is the ability
00:47:54
to purchase it in the United States. The
00:47:56
4A is not coming to the US.
00:47:57
>> Ah, which is too bad because it's a
00:47:59
better deal.
00:48:03
>> Yeah, I guess the other thing is just
00:48:04
design.
00:48:05
>> Yeah,
00:48:05
>> you might like this design with the
00:48:06
metal body better. I
00:48:08
>> kind of do in the silver version.
00:48:10
>> And the silver looks really cool. Yeah.
00:48:11
>> You think this is louder? Yes.
00:48:13
>> I think this is less loud than the 4.
00:48:15
The 4A still has all of the like designs
00:48:18
and everything going through it where
00:48:20
this is like keeping it up into just
00:48:21
this pill.
00:48:22
>> The bean or whatever.
00:48:23
>> This is the plateau. That's the bean.
00:48:25
The bean's the camera.
00:48:26
>> But I'm talking about the 4A.
00:48:27
>> Oh, yeah.
00:48:28
>> The 4A is just one big bean.
00:48:30
>> Yes.
00:48:30
>> Yeah.
00:48:31
>> I think that is more subtle overall. I
00:48:34
understand like they've got the clear
00:48:35
back and everything, but the bean
00:48:37
itself, I think, is more subtle.
00:48:39
>> I think we should call it the pill, not
00:48:40
the bean. Speaking of weird marketing
00:48:42
terms to use for tech products, did you
00:48:45
guys know that the AirPods Max top
00:48:47
headband is called the Canopy?
00:48:50
>> What? That actually makes a lot of
00:48:52
sense. the most thing I have ever heard.
00:48:56
>> What makes sense am I hate it so much?
00:48:58
>> I only know this because I only know
00:49:00
this because they just came out with the
00:49:01
AirPods Max 2
00:49:03
>> news of the week.
00:49:04
>> Yeah.
00:49:05
>> Uh very quietly announced with a press
00:49:07
release in the Apple newsroom.
00:49:09
>> It has an H2 chip in there and new
00:49:11
amplifiers. And that's kind of all you
00:49:13
need to know.
00:49:14
>> Wait, it doesn't even have a new canopy.
00:49:16
>> It It's the Well, it's new colors, I
00:49:18
guess. Um but physically on the outside,
00:49:20
it's the same. There's no new onoff
00:49:21
switch. There's no new case. All of the
00:49:23
normal AirPods Max things at all.
00:49:26
>> Yeah. All the normal AirPods Max form
00:49:28
factor stuff still there, but new
00:49:30
amplifiers and H2 chip, potentially
00:49:32
better sound, but also one and a half
00:49:33
times stronger active noise
00:49:35
cancellation. And then a couple, you
00:49:38
know, interesting computational features
00:49:40
like uh studio quality mics allegedly.
00:49:43
>> I you should not conversational
00:49:46
awareness or uh voice isolation when
00:49:49
you're on a phone call, stuff like that.
00:49:50
That's what the chip is doing. Well, if
00:49:52
you can record an album using AirPods
00:49:54
Max as the microphone, then I will be
00:49:55
sold. But
00:49:56
>> again, Apple is in pure marketing land
00:49:58
with these these terms. Um, but yes, the
00:50:01
top of the AirPods Max is officially
00:50:03
called the Canopy. So, if you ever want
00:50:04
to refer to that top piece, that's what
00:50:06
that is.
00:50:06
>> David, why would you give them that
00:50:07
idea?
00:50:08
>> They're going to release an album now.
00:50:11
>> That's a studio video right there.
00:50:12
>> Studio quality. Yeah. church.
00:50:14
>> It's funny cuz Apple does make some
00:50:16
products that are genuinely like
00:50:17
professionally used all the time and
00:50:19
they can go, "Hey, here's an album that
00:50:21
was made and mixed on a MacBook Pro with
00:50:23
their speakers and you be like, "That's
00:50:24
crazy, but I guess someone could do
00:50:26
that." But then there's like the studio
00:50:28
quality microphones on the iMac and
00:50:30
you're like,
00:50:32
>> they're no studio has ever used these
00:50:34
microphones.
00:50:34
>> Studio quality is a stretch is a
00:50:36
stretch. I do I do think you can kind of
00:50:37
record a you could record a podcast with
00:50:39
the MacBook microphones and it sounds
00:50:41
okay.
00:50:41
>> Yep. Um I think many people have glare.
00:50:44
>> I mean not we wouldn't
00:50:47
out there. There's a chance it sounds
00:50:48
better than quite a few of them. But
00:50:50
>> yeah.
00:50:50
>> Yeah. Well they they sort of updated it
00:50:52
with a lot of the things that the
00:50:53
AirPods Pro 3 got. Um I think that's the
00:50:56
reason that they wanted to do it because
00:50:57
the AirPods Pro 3 were technically
00:50:59
better in multiple ways. Yeah.
00:51:01
>> Like you're able to answer calls by
00:51:02
nodding and reject them by shaking your
00:51:04
head. They added that. They added the
00:51:06
game mode that reduces the wireless
00:51:08
latency if you want to use them for
00:51:09
gaming. So they added that. They now
00:51:12
have a camera remote feature on the on
00:51:14
the digital crown or the crown
00:51:17
>> where you can like press it and it will
00:51:18
take a photo with your iPhone or your
00:51:20
iPad.
00:51:20
>> That's what I was really waiting to
00:51:21
upgrade for.
00:51:22
>> I I was just thinking like this is for
00:51:25
selfies generally and then you have to
00:51:27
be wearing AirPods Max in your cell
00:51:29
phone.
00:51:30
>> Yeah.
00:51:30
>> Which is exactly what Apple marketing
00:51:32
wants.
00:51:32
>> The thing that's weird about that is
00:51:33
like I'm not mad that they added a
00:51:35
feature. It doesn't take away. I can't
00:51:37
get mad at it. But in order to use that,
00:51:39
you generally would need a camera
00:51:41
shutter remote for like a group photo.
00:51:43
So that means you either are in the
00:51:45
group photo
00:51:46
>> holding your AirPods Max or you have it
00:51:49
on while the rest of the people in your
00:51:51
group don't and then you just for Apple
00:51:54
to like get more AirPods Max and photos.
00:51:56
>> I got to see if you can do use this
00:51:57
feature while they're not on your head.
00:51:59
>> That's a great question cuz they don't
00:52:00
they just turn off if you don't have
00:52:02
them on your head.
00:52:02
>> Typically they just stop. I I would be
00:52:04
so funny if you could only use them
00:52:06
while they're on your head.
00:52:08
>> They they don't they don't turn off.
00:52:09
There's no off button. Even if you're
00:52:10
holding them, that's weird. You're still
00:52:12
holding a pair of air pads.
00:52:13
>> Yeah, I would I would hold them in my
00:52:14
hand and like put them behind my back
00:52:16
and then and take a picture like this in
00:52:18
the group with the crown behind my back.
00:52:20
I hit the button.
00:52:21
>> David, the I forgot that they go to the
00:52:23
sleep mode and you take them off your
00:52:24
head. That makes the recording a an
00:52:26
album with them even funnier because
00:52:28
you'd have to like stick your head
00:52:30
>> in the bass drum of the
00:52:32
>> like in a recording you have to like
00:52:33
literally put your head right next to
00:52:34
the guitar amp like
00:52:36
>> oh yeah true this might be a studio
00:52:38
>> par that's basically what Vision Pro
00:52:39
does when you're taking video of Vision
00:52:40
Pro you have to go
00:52:41
>> oh yeah
00:52:42
>> yeah someone's got to do a like taking
00:52:44
Apple ads literally
00:52:46
>> like oh this is a studio quality
00:52:47
microphone okay and just put their head
00:52:49
up against the guitar that would be
00:52:51
really funny
00:52:51
>> uh there's now a personalized volume
00:52:53
feature that automatically fine-tunes
00:52:55
volume based on your preferences over
00:52:57
time, which I believe means like it
00:52:59
analyzes how loud you're listening to
00:53:02
music on a like long period of time,
00:53:04
>> so it's just always going to be maxed
00:53:06
out.
00:53:06
>> No,
00:53:06
>> you know why that's fine? Because
00:53:08
there's no number associated with it.
00:53:10
>> No, that's not fine. That's not fine.
00:53:12
That's like my worst nightmare. Wait,
00:53:14
Ellis, I just was Do you also hate the
00:53:15
FE I would love your thoughts on the
00:53:17
future of like you know how some cars
00:53:18
when you get up to a certain speed will
00:53:20
automatically increase the music volume
00:53:22
while you're driving?
00:53:24
>> This feels like that, doesn't it?
00:53:26
>> You know, to me that feature I've always
00:53:28
had a problem with. Not on a uh audio
00:53:32
level, but on like a that it feels like
00:53:34
it encourages you to drive like a
00:53:35
maniac. Like you drive faster so the
00:53:38
music gets louder, so you drive faster
00:53:40
so the music
00:53:40
>> Sorry, officer. The volume was just too
00:53:42
low. But like my I like I want my
00:53:46
headphone I want to learn my headphones.
00:53:48
I don't want my headphones to learn me
00:53:50
so that I can interpret everything
00:53:52
coming out of headphones cuz I would
00:53:54
love
00:53:55
>> to be able to use AirPod Max for work.
00:53:58
>> Like I would love it.
00:53:59
>> I think all of these features are
00:54:00
designed for the opposite.
00:54:01
>> No, I know they sound I think they sound
00:54:04
good enough to do a decent amount of
00:54:06
professional audio work on. And the idea
00:54:08
of having one headphone that I have like
00:54:10
a listen mode and I know what things
00:54:11
like music and podcast sound like on it
00:54:13
and then I can go and work on them and
00:54:14
like work as a reference, but they're
00:54:16
such a black box as far as their
00:54:19
processing that I would not be able to
00:54:20
trust
00:54:22
>> anything that comes out of them.
00:54:24
>> They should have a studio mode.
00:54:26
>> Yes,
00:54:27
>> that's a free idea for Apple. Yeah,
00:54:29
>> because you know that there are people
00:54:31
who are trying to use these for that
00:54:33
exact application and because of all
00:54:35
this computing, it's not ideal for that.
00:54:37
But if there was just a studio button,
00:54:38
>> wait, question.
00:54:39
>> Yeah.
00:54:40
>> If you used the USBC adapter to 3.5 mm
00:54:44
cable and plugged it in for the lossless
00:54:47
quality, does that still have the
00:54:49
personal
00:54:50
>> You got You got to get your facts
00:54:51
straight, bucko, because the 3 the USBC
00:54:53
to 3.5 mm does not support lossless.
00:54:56
>> Only C to C, right? Only C to C supports
00:54:58
live.
00:54:58
>> Yeah. Yeah. To C.
00:54:59
>> Okay. So, if you use the C to C for for
00:55:01
whatever reason.
00:55:02
>> Um, does that would that be the studio
00:55:06
mode?
00:55:06
>> No,
00:55:07
>> it would be a nice like trigger to give
00:55:09
you the button processing.
00:55:11
>> It's still doing all the Yeah.
00:55:13
>> Yeah. I think I think I think all the
00:55:15
processing happens on the H2 chip, which
00:55:17
Yeah.
00:55:18
>> Yeah.
00:55:19
>> So, that's a free idea for Jaws or
00:55:20
whoever is watching the pod right now
00:55:22
from Apple. I was waiting to see how
00:55:23
long it would take for someone to be
00:55:25
like and they support lossless.
00:55:27
>> It is funny that they waited till now to
00:55:30
call it two because they released the
00:55:32
updated AirPods Max with USBC.
00:55:34
>> That was
00:55:34
>> and that technically added the like
00:55:36
lossless via USBC. It's
00:55:38
>> and they changed the colors a little bit
00:55:39
>> and they changed the colors. Now they
00:55:41
changed the chip and now it's two.
00:55:43
>> Yeah.
00:55:43
>> I don't really know why that makes it
00:55:45
two. That one's called Gen One. It's
00:55:48
still Gen One with USBC.
00:55:50
>> Gen one with USBC. AirPods Max, then
00:55:52
AirPods Max with the OBC, and then
00:55:54
>> now AirPods Max 2.
00:55:55
>> I'm I'm excited for him. I know I know
00:55:58
we're not generally AirPods Max like
00:56:00
lovers in this room, but I just think
00:56:02
>> after you uh after your rant,
00:56:04
>> I did I did fly to Southby with my
00:56:06
AirPods Max instead of the Sony's. They
00:56:09
sound phenomenal.
00:56:10
>> Yeah, they're fantastic.
00:56:10
>> They sound phenomenal. They're awesome
00:56:12
for flying.
00:56:13
>> And I'm excited to hear what one and a
00:56:15
half times stronger ANC sounds like.
00:56:16
>> Me, too.
00:56:17
>> Probably not that.
00:56:17
>> But they don't wish they folded. Yeah, I
00:56:20
wish I didn't have to take up my entire
00:56:21
backpack.
00:56:22
>> I wish they were nice to use. That's
00:56:24
like a crazy thing to say about a $500
00:56:26
pair of shoes. I just wish they did any
00:56:28
of the things I wanted.
00:56:29
>> They have made their
00:56:30
>> Andrew 550.
00:56:32
>> It is quite like crazy and kind of
00:56:34
ironic that such a simple design has
00:56:37
become so like iconic. Like I see them
00:56:39
all over Brooklyn.
00:56:41
>> People run with these things which is
00:56:43
insane to me cuz they're so heavy.
00:56:44
>> That's insane. They're not meant for
00:56:45
that. Don't do that.
00:56:46
>> The canopy can't support them. That's
00:56:48
why I say they're perfect for flying
00:56:50
because it's perfect for flying because
00:56:51
they weigh so much that you just lean
00:56:53
your head back because you're on a plane
00:56:55
and they have so awesome and they're
00:56:58
heavy and it doesn't matter and the
00:56:59
canopy sits nicely on your head.
00:57:01
>> Apple really likes to make things that
00:57:02
are really bad for your neck.
00:57:04
>> The Vision Pro.
00:57:05
>> Yeah, man.
00:57:06
>> You use these with the Vision Pro. You
00:57:07
>> F1 drivers.
00:57:08
>> Oh my god.
00:57:09
>> Have you guys seen the crazy like suite
00:57:12
of third party accessories that exist
00:57:14
now for
00:57:15
>> dude in New York? Cuz David's right.
00:57:17
Like I see AirPods Max all the time in
00:57:20
New York and so like there are all sorts
00:57:22
of like clear/opaque
00:57:24
covers you can get and like sticker
00:57:27
packs and like I've seen I've seen
00:57:29
people you can get attachable cat ears
00:57:32
for the canopy like people really like
00:57:34
like personalize them.
00:57:35
>> Mhm.
00:57:37
>> Razor's been all over that for years.
00:57:38
>> God the cat ears. I have seen that.
00:57:41
>> They're still 550.
00:57:42
>> Yeah.
00:57:43
>> Still really expensive. You could buy
00:57:44
this or you could buy MacO. truly.
00:57:46
>> Oh my god.
00:57:48
>> This was one of my favorite takes on
00:57:50
Twitter was that seeing MacBook Neo and
00:57:55
AirPods Max next to each other in the
00:57:57
same store is truly like those are the
00:58:00
opposite approach to a product. Like
00:58:03
MacBook Neo is going as low as possible
00:58:07
in price to essentially maximize your
00:58:10
chances of customer acquisition in like
00:58:11
the masses. And then hopefully that gets
00:58:14
the people into like buying Apple
00:58:16
services and buying other Apple
00:58:17
products. And that's the like Trojan
00:58:19
horse of like, all right, now I'm an
00:58:20
Apple guy.
00:58:20
>> MacBook Neo is their YouTube shorts for
00:58:23
discovery.
00:58:24
>> Yeah, it's a big funnel. But AirPods Max
00:58:28
are the exact opposite. It's like these
00:58:30
are
00:58:31
>> you're not going to get these as your
00:58:33
first Apple product.
00:58:36
>> I Wait, can I tell a recommending
00:58:38
MacBook Neo story that happened
00:58:39
yesterday?
00:58:40
>> Yeah. Because I feel like, you know,
00:58:41
like I someone was like, "Oh, you're it
00:58:45
was my it was actually really funny. It
00:58:46
was one of my doctors. We were in the
00:58:47
middle of an appointment." She was like,
00:58:48
"By the way, like tech guy, like I've
00:58:50
had this happen.
00:58:50
>> Should I get the Neo?" And I was like,
00:58:52
>> "I don't know. Like, probably. Like,
00:58:55
unless you're doing anything, you know,
00:58:57
you do you make Tik Toks on the side
00:58:59
like Dr. Tik Toks?"
00:59:00
>> And she was like, "No, no, no." She's
00:59:02
like, "To be honest, I'm less worried
00:59:03
about the computer doing stuff and I'm
00:59:04
more worried about like switching to to
00:59:06
Mac from Windows because I've just
00:59:08
always been a Windows person." And I was
00:59:10
like, you know, it's kind of cool
00:59:11
switching to Mac. Like if you have an
00:59:12
iPhone, like you'll get your texts on
00:59:13
your computer and stuff. And she was
00:59:14
like, you'll get your texts on your
00:59:16
computer. And I was like, you need to
00:59:18
>> Oh my god.
00:59:19
>> Like you, this is who it's this is who
00:59:21
it's
00:59:22
>> funny. That is funny. Well, there are
00:59:24
new colors as we mentioned. There's
00:59:26
midnight, which is gray. There's
00:59:27
starlight, which is gray. I'm just
00:59:29
kidding. There's starlight, which is
00:59:30
gold. There's orange, which is orange,
00:59:32
but it's kind of burnt. There's purple,
00:59:34
which is lilac. And there's blue, which
00:59:36
is sky blue. My favorite part is that
00:59:39
you can mix and match these ear cups.
00:59:42
Like the ear cups just pop off so
00:59:43
easily, which is like great for long.
00:59:45
>> And now there are so many colors of
00:59:46
AirPods Max ear cups that you could just
00:59:48
go crazy.
00:59:49
>> They all work with each other. Yeah.
00:59:51
>> Yeah.
00:59:51
>> Now you can have $700 headphones.
00:59:55
>> One more quick Apple story before we
00:59:56
take it to break. Um, you guys might not
00:59:59
know this, the listeners of this
01:00:00
podcast, unless you are a content
01:00:02
creator, but Motion VFX, which is a
01:00:04
plug-in suite that basically sells
01:00:07
really nice plugins for Final Cut Pro,
01:00:09
Da Vinci Resolve, and Premiere Pro, we
01:00:12
use extensively at the office. We use so
01:00:14
many of these. Marquez has been using
01:00:16
the M blueprint plugin since the
01:00:19
beginning of time, since the dinosaurs.
01:00:21
>> It's true.
01:00:22
>> It's very true. And uh they got acquired
01:00:25
by Apple yesterday.
01:00:26
>> Yeah.
01:00:27
>> Which um we don't really know how to
01:00:29
feel about because Apple obviously makes
01:00:31
Final Cut Pro and this company makes
01:00:34
very good plugins for Da Vinci Resolve
01:00:36
and Premiere Pro.
01:00:37
>> Theyark has a lot of money.
01:00:39
>> We do have an M KBHD plugin.
01:00:41
>> I was going to say I've been using them
01:00:42
for so long that I actually they noticed
01:00:44
that I've been using them for so long
01:00:45
and they were like what if we collabed
01:00:47
on an MKBHD plugin where we have like a
01:00:49
bunch of your mostused stuff and then
01:00:50
some other custom stuff and we were like
01:00:52
oh yeah that's awesome. So, we made an
01:00:54
MKBHD plugin in the Motion VFX suite.
01:00:57
>> Yeah.
01:00:58
>> Um,
01:00:59
>> Apple also acquired all of that. They
01:01:01
get that, too.
01:01:02
>> That's a weird.
01:01:03
>> Yeah.
01:01:04
>> Yeah. Apple owns our dad.
01:01:06
>> Yeah. So, I I'm assuming they're going
01:01:08
to do the Dark Sky thing where
01:01:09
unfortunately they're going to stop
01:01:11
supporting Da Vinci Resolve and
01:01:13
Premiere, right?
01:01:14
>> I reached out to them and they didn't
01:01:16
reply. So, I don't know.
01:01:18
>> They will.
01:01:18
>> Yeah. The second they bought Dark Sky,
01:01:20
it was no longer available on Android.
01:01:21
And I just feel like that's the f first
01:01:23
thing they're gonna do is like make this
01:01:25
plug-in suite Apple only.
01:01:27
>> I could see them
01:01:29
>> still supporting the existing plugins
01:01:32
but not making new ones for
01:01:33
>> Didn't they kill Dark Sky altogether too
01:01:36
>> eventually? Yes, they at first going to
01:01:38
be a Final Cut feature.
01:01:40
>> Every single plugin just integrated into
01:01:42
Final Cut.
01:01:42
>> Okay, here's Yeah, this is how I this is
01:01:44
how I forecast it going. And I'm bad at
01:01:45
predicting the future, but this is
01:01:47
>> like the weather app.
01:01:47
>> Yeah. Well, this is how I think it will
01:01:49
go based on how past things have gone.
01:01:51
Number one, they buy it. So number two,
01:01:53
now they pull support for Da Vinci
01:01:55
Resolve and Premiere and it's just
01:01:57
available for Final Cut. And then
01:01:58
eventually in some year and a half down
01:02:00
the road version of Final Cut, we'll
01:02:02
start to see stuff from Motion VFX built
01:02:06
into Final Cut Pro. And then they
01:02:07
eventually just sunset Motion VFX and
01:02:09
then it is what it is. All the plugins
01:02:11
that I've been buying for years will
01:02:13
eventually kind of like my Dark Side
01:02:15
subscription just be wasted money. And
01:02:18
ideally, a lot of that stuff gets pulled
01:02:20
in and becomes a reason for people to
01:02:22
use Final Cut because that's what Apple
01:02:24
wants.
01:02:24
>> That's ideally for Final Cut, not for
01:02:26
everyone else.
01:02:27
>> Yeah, that's ideal for I don't know if
01:02:28
they're going to pull it into Final Cut.
01:02:30
I feel like they're just going to make
01:02:31
it its own separate thing in the Creator
01:02:33
Studio
01:02:35
to subscribe to the creator app. That's
01:02:37
a good
01:02:37
>> That'd be crazy. That'd be insane value.
01:02:40
>> Yeah.
01:02:40
>> I mean, each of those plugins are like
01:02:42
>> Stop.
01:02:43
>> Yeah. Well, each of those plugins are
01:02:44
like $80.
01:02:46
>> They're not cheap. There's a lot of
01:02:48
>> and they come like when you buy one
01:02:50
plugin it comes with a ton of different
01:02:51
plugins inside of it.
01:02:54
>> But that like the motion VFX plugins
01:02:57
have like the YouTuber industry like
01:02:59
kind of on locked in.
01:03:00
>> Yeah.
01:03:01
>> Unless you want to start building your
01:03:02
own stuff or like if you know After
01:03:04
Effects, if you have a Michael who's
01:03:05
just amazing at graphics.
01:03:06
>> There's also Motion Array, but Motion
01:03:08
Array is not good. Like their stuff has
01:03:10
never been that good.
01:03:10
>> Yeah. Motion Motion is just not good.
01:03:12
>> Apple Motion is terrible. Yes.
01:03:14
>> Yeah. I I use the MKBHD plugins all the
01:03:17
time.
01:03:17
>> I mean, there's Pix like there's
01:03:19
Pixelmator, you know, like they bought
01:03:20
Pixelmator and it's still a dedicated
01:03:22
app
01:03:23
>> that got put into the education bundle,
01:03:25
right?
01:03:25
>> Yeah, that's in the bundle.
01:03:26
>> Creative bundle.
01:03:26
>> Yeah,
01:03:27
>> the creator one or the creator one?
01:03:29
>> Creative.
01:03:29
>> I mean educated.
01:03:31
>> Oh my god, I can't speak. Education one
01:03:34
or
01:03:34
>> the creator one studio.
01:03:35
>> Pixelmator was already just an
01:03:38
>> Mac.
01:03:39
>> Mac app though. So, this is weirder
01:03:40
because now we're potentially losing
01:03:42
like Dark Sky, losing the other
01:03:44
platforms, which sucks. But, um,
01:03:46
>> we're just speculating, though.
01:03:47
>> Yeah. The funniest thing kind of about
01:03:49
this is
01:03:50
>> Marquez tweets about Final Cut crashing
01:03:52
all the time, and Apple loves to be
01:03:54
like, "We tried to recreate all these
01:03:55
things and we're just seeing no
01:03:56
problems." Little do they know, Motion
01:03:58
VFX and Final Cut
01:04:00
>> hate each other.
01:04:01
>> Yeah.
01:04:01
>> Yeah. Seems to hate each other a lot.
01:04:03
Like, it works great. We still love
01:04:05
motion VFX, but the majority of the time
01:04:07
Final Cut Crash is just like a plugin.
01:04:09
Yeah. Like right when the playhead gets
01:04:11
there.
01:04:11
>> It's like when your dad marries your
01:04:13
bully's mom and now you guys are
01:04:14
stepdaughters.
01:04:16
>> But like I feel like every time you
01:04:19
tweet about that, someone from Apple's
01:04:20
like, "What's going on? What's going
01:04:22
on?" And now they're going to buy it and
01:04:23
start using it and be like, "Oh my god,
01:04:25
people work like this.
01:04:26
>> They're going to crash all the time.
01:04:28
>> They're going to learn real quick."
01:04:29
Yeah. I think most of probably most of
01:04:31
my bugs for the last couple years I've
01:04:33
used Final Cut are not actually a Final
01:04:34
Cut bug.
01:04:35
>> They are a plugin with Final Cut. I
01:04:38
shoot Red.
01:04:40
>> There's the RED plugin.
01:04:41
>> That plugin is has caused many crashes.
01:04:44
There's the Motion VFX plugins. Those
01:04:46
have caused many crashes. So over the
01:04:48
years, every time I'll have like a
01:04:49
really frustrating edit with Final Cut
01:04:51
because it starts crashing over and over
01:04:52
and I tweet about it, the Final Cut team
01:04:54
reaches out and they're like, "What's
01:04:56
going on with Final Cut?" and I'll send
01:04:57
them the logs and they're like, "Yeah,
01:04:59
maybe disable that plugin and see if it
01:05:01
still happens." And then it's fine.
01:05:02
>> It's like when using Windows cuz your
01:05:04
your Nvidia display driver crashes on
01:05:07
your HP Omen laptop powered by Asus RAM.
01:05:10
>> You such a good segue. There's just
01:05:12
unfortunately a trivia break in between.
01:05:14
>> Oh, so hold that thought.
01:05:17
>> Let's do trivia.
01:05:18
>> That was good though. That was good.
01:05:19
Okay, question number two. So, Apple's
01:05:23
high-speed event announced such classics
01:05:26
as MagSafe and HomePod Mini.
01:05:29
>> Dang.
01:05:30
>> What year was that event?
01:05:32
>> Highspeed.
01:05:33
>> Mag Safe. I know. I know.
01:05:35
>> Mag Safe and HomePod Mini.
01:05:37
>> Um,
01:05:37
>> are we doing Delta or Price is Right.
01:05:41
>> Guild
01:05:41
>> this one. I think let's do Delta. Let's
01:05:43
do Delta.
01:05:44
>> United. Do you know what I found the
01:05:47
other day? Not totally related to this,
01:05:49
but kind of rel. We have that one
01:05:51
butcher block.
01:05:52
>> And do you remember when the original
01:05:54
HomePods used to stain wood when you
01:05:56
left it on it for too long? We still
01:05:57
have this butcher block that just has a
01:05:59
white circle on it because we left a
01:06:00
HomePod on it for like 24 hours. Not
01:06:03
even that long. The like the rubberized
01:06:06
bottom just straight up stained wood.
01:06:08
>> That's a That's a How did they not even
01:06:09
test this?
01:06:10
>> Yeah.
01:06:11
>> Yeah. All right, we'll take it to break
01:06:13
and come back.
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01:07:41
happened this week was Nvidia's annual
01:07:43
GTC conference in San Francisco. They
01:07:46
sometimes reveal new graphics cards.
01:07:48
They sometimes, actually all the time,
01:07:50
reveal new AI. This year they revealed
01:07:53
new AI as usual. So there is a thing
01:07:56
that Nvidia has been doing for quite a
01:07:58
few years now called DLSS. It's deep
01:08:00
learning super sampling. back when AI
01:08:02
was called deep learning. Uh they have
01:08:05
their new version which is DLSS 5 which
01:08:08
is the thing that has been getting the
01:08:10
most uh chatter in the last couple of
01:08:12
days.
01:08:13
>> Yeah.
01:08:13
>> And the reason for this is because what
01:08:15
DLSS usually does is it sort of upscales
01:08:18
content that doesn't actually have to be
01:08:21
rendered by the graphics card. It's like
01:08:23
AI models that do upscaling. This year
01:08:26
they kind of took it to the next I don't
01:08:29
know if you want to say next level or if
01:08:30
like a whole another level entirely
01:08:33
because basically what this is doing is
01:08:35
it is looking at the pixels and then
01:08:38
it's generating texture maps that are
01:08:40
anchored to the scenes content to make
01:08:41
it look higher resolution while not
01:08:44
taking more processing power. The reason
01:08:46
people are making memes about this is
01:08:48
because it's basically doing like
01:08:50
generative texture mapping to a lot of
01:08:53
the stuff and a lot of the resulting
01:08:55
images kind of just look like they
01:08:58
>> it's almost this uncanny valley thing
01:09:00
>> where they they almost look like real
01:09:03
people but it's like that it's that
01:09:04
close off that it feels awkward
01:09:06
>> and the sharpening and the the contrast
01:09:09
are just way up on everything. All the
01:09:11
jackets look like really really
01:09:14
contrasty and sharpened.
01:09:15
>> Clarity slider.
01:09:16
>> The clarity slider
01:09:18
so high up.
01:09:19
>> It's like this the the spiritual clarity
01:09:22
cuz I just feel like a lot of them are
01:09:23
like well a lot of them it's like it's
01:09:25
like this is an old person so let's make
01:09:28
them look as old as possible.
01:09:30
>> Yeah. Yeah.
01:09:31
>> Yeah. Yeah. I'm looking at I'm watching
01:09:33
the side by side video right now and
01:09:35
each time they do the side by side.
01:09:37
Every little bit of micro it's literally
01:09:39
like turning the clarity slider up. Like
01:09:41
every bit of micro texture turns into
01:09:43
like very visible texture.
01:09:45
>> And so if you have a person that has a
01:09:46
little bit of wrinkles
01:09:47
>> the Hogwarts Legacy one
01:09:50
>> adds a lot of wrinkles.
01:09:51
>> It also was a little annoying because it
01:09:53
it kind of like reminded me a little bit
01:09:54
of HDR almost where some of the stuff
01:09:57
the shadows just get completely pulled
01:09:59
up. Yeah,
01:10:00
>> it's like they just get rid of shadows
01:10:01
and they add detail, but it's like that
01:10:02
didn't need to be there. Like why do I
01:10:04
need to see the background characters
01:10:07
>> t-shirt, you know?
01:10:08
>> Yeah. This is also getting a lot of
01:10:09
flack because they showed some demos
01:10:10
with like Resident Evil, which they
01:10:12
always like to use Resident Evil for
01:10:13
their demos. And a lot of people were
01:10:15
saying that the DLSS 5 off uh image was
01:10:19
like not even what it looks like in
01:10:20
game. It's actually way higher quality
01:10:22
than the off image that they showed. So
01:10:24
people were speculating that they down
01:10:27
quality like made the quality lower just
01:10:29
so it could look like a bigger
01:10:30
difference. Um so there was some drama
01:10:32
around that. The biggest question mark
01:10:35
as with most AI features just becomes
01:10:38
like if you are letting the graphics
01:10:40
card use deep learning to create
01:10:42
textures for you. How much of that gets
01:10:46
taken away from the original artists?
01:10:48
>> You know that's like the question. And
01:10:50
Nvidia says like it's different in that
01:10:52
when it generates these textures and
01:10:54
stuff, they get rooted to the actual
01:10:56
model. So it's not like it's generating
01:10:58
like the scenes dynamically and changing
01:11:00
everything dynamically. But and there
01:11:02
are some sliders that the the developers
01:11:05
are going to be able to use for how much
01:11:07
shading they want on certain things, how
01:11:09
much like light they want on certain
01:11:11
things, the way that the texture is
01:11:13
going to look. Mhm.
01:11:14
>> Um but yeah, just one of those kind of
01:11:17
like moral quandries where everyone's a
01:11:19
little bit a little bit weirded out by
01:11:21
this.
01:11:21
>> I have a maybe a stupid question.
01:11:23
>> That's okay.
01:11:23
>> I guess if the idea is the this
01:11:26
technology and these models are
01:11:29
individually on your GPU analyzing the
01:11:31
scene and upscaling, not upscaling, but
01:11:33
like doing the improvement to quality.
01:11:35
>> Yeah. Does that mean that theoretically
01:11:37
everyone could look at the same exact
01:11:39
map or have the same exact thing they're
01:11:41
doing in a game, but it could look
01:11:43
slightly different? I don't know. That
01:11:45
is something that I will have to
01:11:47
investigate. Um, yeah, it's possible.
01:11:50
>> I mean, just generative
01:11:52
>> and but it's taking the exact Oh, yeah.
01:11:54
I guess it's generative.
01:11:55
>> Like they have sl They said that the
01:11:56
developer has some sliders, but I don't
01:11:58
know how control over the actual text
01:12:01
resulting textures. the developer would
01:12:03
send the game out to everyone. So,
01:12:05
everyone should have the exact same
01:12:06
game. So, it should be source material.
01:12:08
>> You'd think it would be taking the same
01:12:09
source material and doing it exactly the
01:12:11
same. But, I guess
01:12:12
>> a lot of generative stuff is random. But
01:12:14
>> yeah, it's based on like noise which
01:12:16
will have a different se but also
01:12:17
remember a few weeks ago I was like, yo,
01:12:19
how how does DLSS work? This this blows
01:12:21
my mind. And then a bunch of people
01:12:22
emailed me and I I still don't
01:12:24
understand. It's
01:12:26
>> Yeah,
01:12:26
>> I feel like Nvidia has this weird thing
01:12:28
where wherever they release something
01:12:29
really good, the way I find out is by a
01:12:31
bunch of memes on online.
01:12:33
>> It's like that's how I know something
01:12:35
huge in Nvidia just happened.
01:12:36
>> Yeah, that's actually valid. Same. Yeah.
01:12:38
>> Well, they they need to do that because
01:12:40
if Nvidia drops something that isn't the
01:12:43
greatest thing in the world, the entire
01:12:44
US economy crashes.
01:12:46
>> That's also true.
01:12:47
>> The bubble will die.
01:12:48
>> Yeah. Yeah.
01:12:49
>> And then Oh my god.
01:12:50
>> Yeah. There was a big rumor that at this
01:12:52
event they were going to launch their
01:12:53
own ARMbased consumer PC chips, the N1
01:12:56
and the N1X. Um, that did not come out
01:12:59
at this conference yet. It could also
01:13:01
drop at the very last minute because
01:13:02
it's still going on. It probably won't
01:13:04
though. And that would be very
01:13:05
interesting because then they would be
01:13:07
competing with Snapdragon and Intel and
01:13:10
all these things. But um, Nvidia as they
01:13:12
are invested in many companies are also
01:13:15
heavily invested in Intel. So, that's
01:13:17
kind of like a weird um weird little
01:13:19
collaboration there. Anyways, these will
01:13:21
be available on RTX50 series GPUs uh in
01:13:25
the fall, and I guess we'll be able to
01:13:27
see how either terrible or good it
01:13:29
actually is once that happens. Speaking
01:13:32
of gaming, really quickly, there is this
01:13:35
new split mouse thing that starts as a
01:13:38
regular mouse. I actually I could have
01:13:40
used this this weekend cuz Ellis and I
01:13:41
had a 4-hour delay at the airport and I
01:13:43
wanted to play Dota and didn't have a
01:13:45
mouse and we walked all around the
01:13:47
airport for like an hour and I found one
01:13:48
mouse that's probably 30 years old and
01:13:50
it was $30 and I did not buy it and I
01:13:52
used my trackpad and it was a horrible
01:13:54
experience playing Dota 2.
01:13:55
>> Uh anyway, this mouse looks like a
01:13:58
regular kind of travel mouse and then
01:14:00
you can split it in half and then it's
01:14:02
like these Switch style uh game pads.
01:14:05
>> Is this real? Oh, it's pre-ordered.
01:14:06
>> It's a It's Kickstarter. I think it's
01:14:08
called the Pixel Paw. It's if you for
01:14:10
audio listeners, if you imagine just a
01:14:13
black a regular black mouse, two
01:14:14
buttons, you'll notice there's no scroll
01:14:16
wheel because that split between the
01:14:19
buttons follows the entire
01:14:21
>> length of the mouse because that's where
01:14:23
it literally just snaps in half and now
01:14:25
you have a full game console split like
01:14:28
Joy-Con controllers. There's no scroll
01:14:30
wheel because it wouldn't make sense.
01:14:32
Um, so annoying. Left side you have your
01:14:34
joystick and D-pad. Right side you have
01:14:36
uh ABXY and another
01:14:38
>> sparkle emoji button. What does that do?
01:14:41
>> AI button.
01:14:42
>> It's on both of them.
01:14:43
>> Um, this is, you know, it's Bluetooth
01:14:47
and dongle support, 72 hours of battery
01:14:49
life, th000 Hz pulling rate. I can't
01:14:51
believe this thing, well, it's not real
01:14:52
yet, so whatever. This has a 1000 Hz
01:14:55
pulling rate, but the Logitech MXM 4
01:14:57
does not. Uh, multi-device pairing.
01:15:00
What's funny is the render of this looks
01:15:01
awesome, but then the videos they
01:15:02
actually post, the texture of the mouse
01:15:05
looks very 3D printed. So, I'm not quite
01:15:08
sure how far along they are. I'll give
01:15:10
them the benefit of the doubt, but
01:15:11
>> this imagery makes me really nervous.
01:15:13
>> The imagery kind of makes me nervous.
01:15:14
>> Watching out for me.
01:15:15
>> Yeah, the It's a really cool design. I
01:15:18
don't It doesn't look like the most
01:15:20
comfortable mouse in the world. It has
01:15:21
these really big like pieces on the back
01:15:24
where the back of your palm almost wrist
01:15:26
would sit. And I don't know if that
01:15:28
feels nice or not.
01:15:29
>> I am annoyed by the lack of scroll
01:15:31
wheel. That's pretty annoying.
01:15:32
>> No scroll wheel kind of feels like a
01:15:33
dealbreaker cuz whether you're just
01:15:35
productivity or playing games, scroll
01:15:37
wheel almost always does something
01:15:39
really important to what you're doing.
01:15:41
>> Totally.
01:15:42
>> Um, so that kind of sticks, but it
01:15:44
could, you know, it's Bluetooth and has
01:15:45
a dongle. It can connect to a bunch of
01:15:46
different things and just be a
01:15:48
straightup controller, which is kind of
01:15:49
neat.
01:15:50
Maybe if you're using Steam Deck as like
01:15:53
uh like bringing a Steam Deck around, it
01:15:56
might be kind of cool for different
01:15:57
types of games that work better with a
01:15:58
mouse or a controller.
01:15:59
>> Yeah. And if you could pair this to a
01:16:00
Switch 2, it would also make a lot of
01:16:01
sense.
01:16:02
>> Yeah.
01:16:02
>> Nintendo Switch, too.
01:16:04
>> But real quick, since we're talking
01:16:05
about mice, I got a new mouse recently
01:16:08
that I think is kind of neat. So, I'll
01:16:09
talk about it as fast as possible.
01:16:11
>> What's his name?
01:16:11
>> Um
01:16:13
Herbert
01:16:14
>> Stewart.
01:16:15
>> Little.
01:16:16
>> He's a little boy. Um, his name is
01:16:18
Pwnage.
01:16:20
>> This is a company where I'm not I do not
01:16:23
love their name,
01:16:24
>> but 2008 I do like a lot of their
01:16:26
products. I've talked about see the
01:16:27
target demographic.
01:16:28
>> Yeah, exactly. This is very obviously a
01:16:30
gaming mouse. They do make also one of
01:16:32
my favorite Hall effect keyboards. Um,
01:16:34
but this is the Sim 3. They make a bunch
01:16:37
of mice and what they do really cool is
01:16:39
they're like ultra customizable. I
01:16:41
brought it here. Essentially what this
01:16:44
is is it's a gaming mouse that has kind
01:16:46
of all the specs you would ever want. Up
01:16:48
to 8,000 hertz pulling rate, 200 hours
01:16:50
of battery life, 50 g without holes.
01:16:53
>> Uh kind of the the ideal mouse, but the
01:16:57
problem with a mouse is no matter how
01:16:59
good all the specs are, it comes down to
01:17:02
feel. And it's really hard to tell how a
01:17:05
mouse feels by the internet. Sometimes
01:17:06
you just have to buy a couple of them to
01:17:08
see. This is super customizable with
01:17:10
almost no tools. You can just pop the
01:17:14
back off and have different colors and
01:17:16
sizes of where your palm raises. So it
01:17:19
can like pump up more. It can go down
01:17:21
more.
01:17:22
>> Reminds me of
01:17:23
>> there also each button
01:17:25
>> can really easily just pop right off.
01:17:27
>> Dang.
01:17:28
>> So now you can do different colors. You
01:17:29
can have different size indents in each
01:17:31
mouse button without them. Different
01:17:33
sizes.
01:17:34
>> See the body?
01:17:34
>> Yes.
01:17:35
>> And does it have JoyCons inside?
01:17:37
>> No. But it does have with a little uh
01:17:40
tool. This is the only thing you need a
01:17:42
tool for. This is like a mechanical
01:17:45
keyboard switch tool is you can actually
01:17:46
take out
01:17:48
>> the switches for each button
01:17:51
>> for each mouse click and there are
01:17:53
different types of
01:17:54
>> Dude, I'm so mad. I'm so mad
01:17:56
>> at what I'll tell you.
01:17:58
>> There are different type of optical and
01:17:59
mechanical switches that you can then
01:18:01
put in there just like pop them in. But
01:18:03
they all have
01:18:03
>> That's crazy.
01:18:05
>> Can I ask something?
01:18:06
>> Yeah. Yeah. What has been the general
01:18:07
reception to this idea online?
01:18:10
>> I'm not that deep in the gaming mouse
01:18:12
category anymore. I think they're
01:18:15
they're a pretty popular company. Some
01:18:17
of a lot of the pros use them. I think
01:18:19
still places like Razer kind of beats
01:18:21
out a lot of big ones. Razer and Zoey.
01:18:24
>> So, I have beef with this.
01:18:25
>> Okay. What's your beef?
01:18:27
>> Back about 10, 12, 15 years ago when I
01:18:31
was growing up, I had this mouse called
01:18:33
the cyborg rat mouse.
01:18:36
from Cats. Yeah, from Mad Cats and it
01:18:38
was a fully modular adjust. I got made
01:18:40
fun of for that relentlessly. It's the
01:18:42
same thing. It's the same thing. Have
01:18:44
you seen Look, I have big hands. I can't
01:18:47
use a regular size mouse. This mouse, I
01:18:48
get to customize it to fit my hand. Oh,
01:18:51
I get to move it. I get Marquez's past.
01:18:54
>> I get to put weights in it or take the
01:18:57
weights out of it. The same idea. I
01:18:59
didn't even need special tools. It was
01:19:00
all built in. And I had this
01:19:02
customizable mouse that was perfect for
01:19:03
me. And everyone hated it. and I got
01:19:05
hate for it and then I I retired it and
01:19:07
now this idea is suddenly, oh, you can
01:19:10
customize your mouse. Would you would
01:19:12
you look at that? That's so nice. I want
01:19:13
to customize my mouse. I'm like, well,
01:19:15
you guys don't know about the Mad Cats
01:19:16
rat.
01:19:17
>> The Mad Cats rat is the Cyber Truck of
01:19:20
this thing looks like it gets hate, but
01:19:22
it's the OG for this.
01:19:24
>> Then we have also normalized insane
01:19:26
looking PC peripherals over the last 20
01:19:28
years. I think at that point in time
01:19:30
everything looked really really basic
01:19:32
and then eventually it got
01:19:33
>> it was called the rat cuz it was better
01:19:35
than a mouse. It was bigger.
01:19:37
>> I never made that connection. The
01:19:39
problem if you don't know what this the
01:19:41
cyborg rat is is imagine a mouse where
01:19:44
like all the corners had like a dial
01:19:47
that could move it like up and down or
01:19:48
side to side and make it wider or longer
01:19:51
or
01:19:52
>> Yeah. wider the change the angle. It was
01:19:55
>> This mouse looks like it weighs 7 lbs.
01:19:57
>> You could take all the weight out of it.
01:19:58
It would be lighter than a normal mouse
01:19:59
or put all the weights in it and it
01:20:00
would be smooth and heavy.
01:20:01
>> I bet it still weighs more than this
01:20:02
wireless one with 200 hours of battery
01:20:04
life.
01:20:04
>> But could you change the weight though?
01:20:07
>> I don't know. Everyone right now in the
01:20:08
gaming sphere wants light. It's like 50
01:20:12
50 to 80 gram is like
01:20:13
>> I will find I will find out the weight
01:20:15
for you of this mouse because I'm sure
01:20:17
it's
01:20:18
>> but lots of different right now there's
01:20:19
only black, white, red, but the Sim 2
01:20:22
had like a million different colors. So
01:20:24
two two things I think are cool about
01:20:26
this. Like I said before, it's all about
01:20:28
feel. It's kind of like uh truly
01:20:31
wireless earbuds, right? Like you might
01:20:33
buy a pair that you think are great, but
01:20:34
they don't fit in your ears great. So
01:20:35
with this, you get when you buy it, it
01:20:38
comes with all three different backs and
01:20:40
the two different buttons, so you can
01:20:41
kind of make it fit your hand better.
01:20:43
>> Yeah.
01:20:43
>> Um and it has all the specs you would
01:20:45
want. Then if you're also someone like
01:20:46
me who switches a keyboard out all the
01:20:48
time or a desk mat, there will be
01:20:50
different colors to so now your mouse
01:20:52
can match the different colors of the
01:20:54
desk that you're setting up on.
01:20:55
>> What's the value in raising or lowering
01:20:57
the optical sensor?
01:20:58
>> I don't know. My guess is like depending
01:21:02
on how you lift off, maybe having it
01:21:04
more forward facing or more or not
01:21:06
forward facing, but more towards the
01:21:07
front or more towards the back is
01:21:08
better. Uh
01:21:09
>> my hot take is if you need to adjust
01:21:11
these things, you're just bad at video
01:21:12
games. M yeah might not be wrong. A lot
01:21:16
of pro players though will say a million
01:21:18
different things of like, oh, I'm trying
01:21:19
claw grip out this time and now I'm
01:21:20
hitting everything better, which I think
01:21:22
is kind of
01:21:24
>> snake oil
01:21:24
>> a little or like the the pros doing it
01:21:27
and you definitely don't need to. I was
01:21:29
wondering why this wasn't clicking. It's
01:21:30
because I don't think the but um
01:21:32
>> yeah,
01:21:33
>> the switch is in it. But yeah, that was
01:21:34
it. I don't want to sound like an ad too
01:21:36
much, but I thought it was neat.
01:21:38
>> You can still buy a cyborg rat.
01:21:40
>> Buy one.
01:21:40
>> If you love it so much, buy it. I'm just
01:21:42
saying
01:21:42
>> when you marry him. It's an option. It's
01:21:44
an option. My video is from January
01:21:46
31st.
01:21:47
Make a short on it.
01:21:48
>> Honestly, the short would pay for
01:21:50
itself.
01:21:50
>> It's 14 years old.
01:21:52
>> Uh, good times.
01:21:54
>> Well, I think that's all we have for
01:21:55
this week. We are recording a day early
01:21:57
this week, uh, because of scheduling
01:21:59
conflicts. And so, if anything major
01:22:01
happens tomorrow or Thursday, I'm sowi.
01:22:04
>> That's also why I'm wearing green and no
01:22:06
one else is cuz it's St. Patrick's.
01:22:07
>> Is it actually? Yes.
01:22:08
>> What? What the actual green bagels?
01:22:11
>> I'm literally wearing green.
01:22:14
>> I didn't realize it was St. Patrick's
01:22:15
Day and wore green by accident.
01:22:17
>> 50% of people in the room are wearing
01:22:19
green upset at these two.
01:22:20
>> I mean, this is green gray.
01:22:22
>> David's laptop is green.
01:22:24
>> Okay, but also I said it and everyone
01:22:25
went, "What it is?"
01:22:26
>> There's a lot of green in here.
01:22:27
Actually,
01:22:27
>> I knew it was St. Patrick's.
01:22:28
>> I literally pulled out of my driveway
01:22:30
and I was like, "Ah, crap. I forgot to
01:22:31
wear green." And I get here and
01:22:33
everyone's wearing green. And and then
01:22:34
Andrew goes, "Oh, St. Patrick's Day."
01:22:36
And they all go, "What? That's today?"
01:22:38
Like you're all wearing green by
01:22:39
accident. That's insane. You guys
01:22:41
>> I'm sorry. Thank you for the green.
01:22:43
>> Leprechauns.
01:22:44
>> I feel like wearing green and blue is
01:22:46
directly
01:22:47
>> contrasting. Or it's just like blue is
01:22:49
the antithesis of green.
01:22:51
>> He's the ocean.
01:22:51
>> I don't think that's true.
01:22:52
>> The ocean.
01:22:53
>> They're right next to each other in the
01:22:55
rainbow.
01:22:55
>> Yeah. Blue and green together is like
01:22:56
one of the most soughtafter colors ever.
01:22:58
It's seafoam.
01:22:59
>> Yeah. Just ask Miles Davis.
01:23:01
>> That's right. Kind of blue.
01:23:03
>> Deep cut.
01:23:03
>> I don't get that.
01:23:04
>> No, it was even deeper than that.
01:23:05
There's a song on that album called Blue
01:23:06
and Green. Oh, on kind of blue.
01:23:08
>> I'm more of a green and blue guy.
01:23:11
>> You know what has no color?
01:23:13
>> The trivia.
01:23:13
>> No, trivia is blue. Have you ever seen
01:23:15
the lights behind you?
01:23:16
>> They're kind of green a little. If you
01:23:17
look at
01:23:18
>> red little blue and green, actually
01:23:20
after dark.
01:23:20
>> What is blue?
01:23:22
>> Guys, I have refreshed the video.
01:23:25
>> Okay, I need
01:23:26
>> What is the title? And we're doing
01:23:28
Jeopardy rules, so you have to write the
01:23:29
full title of the video.
01:23:32
>> Wait, hold on. Jeopardy rules would be
01:23:33
you have to write what is and then the
01:23:35
full title of the video.
01:23:36
>> You're right. You're right. We're doing
01:23:37
Ellis. Ellis. We're doing Jel Gel. We're
01:23:40
doing Ellis's
01:23:43
We're doing Gillespie
01:23:46
rules.
01:23:48
What is the title of the Tom Scott video
01:23:50
as of me refreshing it 35 seconds ago?
01:23:53
Prices, right? Rules.
01:23:57
>> I went super specific. So, if I'm off by
01:23:59
like five over, I'm going to be so mad.
01:24:01
>> I think I'm way I think it's a million
01:24:03
over this, but I went under on purpose.
01:24:05
Okay, who wants to go first?
01:24:07
>> All of you flipped your board, said no.
01:24:09
Okay, someone read first.
01:24:10
>> Holy moly.
01:24:12
>> Okay, you go first, Marquez.
01:24:13
>> My title is This video has 12,20,22
01:24:18
views.
01:24:18
>> Excellent guess.
01:24:20
>> Mine is This video has 17,653,147
01:24:24
views.
01:24:25
>> Excellent guess.
01:24:26
>> Mine is this video has 58 million views.
01:24:30
>> Objectively a better guess than the
01:24:31
other two. This video has 74 million
01:24:36
958,941.
01:24:39
>> So much money
01:24:40
>> views. Meeting David.
01:24:42
>> 74 million.
01:24:43
>> You rolling in it, my guy.
01:24:44
>> Insane. I heard something like they they
01:24:46
fixed the bug that allows you to do
01:24:48
this, but they just let him still have
01:24:50
>> as they
01:24:51
Yeah, as you do.
01:24:52
>> All right. After that, quick update on
01:24:54
the score. Marquez with 17. Andrew with
01:24:58
19. David after that correct answer with
01:25:00
22. 22 way.
01:25:03
>> I'm also rolling it at Tom. You and me,
01:25:05
we had red shirts together. We had
01:25:08
>> We rolling it together.
01:25:09
>> Are you just Tom Scott?
01:25:10
>> That's right. David,
01:25:11
>> you seen them in the same room?
01:25:13
>> We have been in the same room. We have
01:25:16
many times. But I will say David, worst
01:25:18
takes on waveform. Best answers at
01:25:20
trivia.
01:25:21
>> That's right.
01:25:22
>> If you don't get that, go back and
01:25:23
listen to the South by episode. All
01:25:25
right. Next question.
01:25:26
>> I only lost by two. Apple's highspeed
01:25:28
event announced such classics as MagSafe
01:25:30
and HomePod Mini. What year was this
01:25:33
event?
01:25:35
>> Did you guys see what got killed by
01:25:37
Google this week?
01:25:38
>> Oh no.
01:25:39
>> Keep.
01:25:40
>> No.
01:25:41
>> Oh yeah. Google F. I mean Google Fiber.
01:25:43
Yeah.
01:25:44
>> Stop it.
01:25:44
>> They Well, they sold Google.
01:25:45
>> They sold it to private equity
01:25:47
>> to So it's not Google Fiber anymore.
01:25:49
It's going to be
01:25:49
>> private equity fiber.
01:25:51
>> Why is Google selling to private equity?
01:25:53
>> No, there's they're selling off their
01:25:54
fiber business. Yeah,
01:25:56
>> cuz they were like, "Oh, why are we
01:25:58
doing this?"
01:26:00
>> Three cities that have it in 10 blocks
01:26:02
radius. All right, flip him and read.
01:26:04
What do we got?
01:26:06
>> I think it's probably
01:26:08
>> Wait,
01:26:10
I was
01:26:10
>> Marquez is erasing his previous answer.
01:26:12
>> Oh, which one is it going to be?
01:26:14
>> What is it?
01:26:14
>> It could be very
01:26:15
>> He's leaving. He's leaving.
01:26:17
>> That's why you made that.
01:26:18
>> All right.
01:26:19
>> It looks like his answer is 2030.
01:26:22
>> 2020.
01:26:23
>> 2020.
01:26:24
>> 2020. and I both did 2020.
01:26:26
>> That was sick. All right,
01:26:27
>> I did 2020.
01:26:29
>> David and Marquez get the point.
01:26:31
>> That was the coolest points anyone's
01:26:32
ever gotten on Wave Form.
01:26:33
>> That was kind of kind of a bar. That was
01:26:35
pretty sick.
01:26:36
>> Counts the same.
01:26:37
>> Only video viewers will understand what
01:26:38
just happened.
01:26:39
>> He erased his numbers until it said
01:26:40
2020.
01:26:43
>> But you have to be there.
01:26:46
>> It's for the full effect. It was It was
01:26:47
like in Harry Potter when the the
01:26:50
letters are rearranged. It's like I am
01:26:52
Tom Ridden.
01:26:55
It's like those people who like paint
01:26:56
something really complicating. You're
01:26:58
like, "What is this?" And then they turn
01:26:59
it upside down and it's this amazing
01:27:00
portrait. It was almost that cool. I
01:27:03
promise. Anyway,
01:27:06
thanks for watching. Welcome back to
01:27:08
regularly scheduled programming. It's
01:27:09
still TAR, by the way. There's still a
01:27:11
whole another week of Tar to go. Uh you
01:27:15
could call it match mech if you want,
01:27:16
but it's it's mostly tar. Um, so
01:27:20
we'll see you uh in the comments section
01:27:22
for for all the fun stories that we
01:27:24
missed on Wednesday.
01:27:25
>> It'll still be dark next week, too.
01:27:27
>> Tape roll is going to be so crazy.
01:27:29
>> Techrol.
01:27:30
>> Tech.
01:27:31
>> I can't I don't know if I can do another
01:27:32
margin,
01:27:33
>> dude. In techroll, it'll be better
01:27:36
weather. Get it? Integral. In tech roll.
01:27:38
It'll be nice.
01:27:39
>> Please end this.
01:27:40
>> We should end this.
01:27:41
>> See you guys next week. Peace. Wait for
01:27:44
is produced by Well, you read it out
01:27:47
now.
01:27:48
>> Wait for is produced by Well, you read
01:27:50
it out now. Wait for is produced by
01:27:53
>> Yeah.
01:27:54
>> Abreina
01:27:56
Ellis Raven Vox Media Podcast Network.
01:27:59
Veins.
01:28:00
>> Bingo.
01:28:10
>> Whoa. I didn't know David was jacked.
