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I'm Dana and this is David and up next
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we're very excited Our Guest is Tim
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Meadows enjoy
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Tim Meadows everyone loves Tim Meadows
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is an old buddy I just immediately
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interrupted you Tim Meadows an old buddy
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of both of ours he really is I
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interrupted back Tim Meadows
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it's like tennis go ahead I'm gonna be
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quiet I'm gonna zip my trap
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he's a great guy good looking that
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matters and Showbiz is unfortunately and
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he has done a ton he's got to be rich
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because he's always working at all times
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on many things uh I knew him we had a
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great time during SNL we talk about that
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you know he and I bought a um
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motorcycle I bought a motorcycle that
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was Chris Farley's recently online
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and I didn't know who I'm bidding
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against but I finally bought it and then
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I got a text from Tim saying dude you
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just outbid me so we're online bidding
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against the world I just thought
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Farley's old Harley from Chicago I
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remember this
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shoot I'd like to be cool to just have
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my living room or you know whatever I
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just and then he goes hey I don't have
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anything at Chris's and I said oh I was
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bidding against you and he said can I
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have it and I said I I mean I said just
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pay me what I pay you can have it
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because he doesn't have anything of
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Chris's and he's from Chicago and they
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were really really tight also Dana the
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Oscars now we discussed the Oscars a
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little bit last week but before Tim is
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on we have to say that we taped him a
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little bit before the Oscars so if he
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doesn't comment on it that's not his
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fault it's just that's the way it shook
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out right so don't be at home going shut
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up Brian I'm just gonna comment on it
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just keep listening
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let me comment
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Dana what would you have done just be
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honest
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well you know I mean Ed O'Neill who will
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be on our podcast soon said you just
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always take the big man off his feet so
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I would have just aimed for beneath the
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knees and just got
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the person off the feet yeah you know on
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their back
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I think I'd be if it's Will Smith he's
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that big
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I go the first one's a freebie and then
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he walks back up the stairs and I go and
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he hits me again I go the second one I'm
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gonna I'm willing to look the other way
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and then toward the end of the Oscars
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he's still beating me up I go on the
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fifth one but I think what Chris should
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have done when he's coming up the stairs
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that's when you make your move because
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you've got the upper hand like have you
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ever seen fights at stadiums the guy in
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the upper seats always wins because he's
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got the weight coming down on the guy so
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I think that's the way you got it I
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would have channeled the deer hunter
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that if he slapped
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meow
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I would have said please may I have
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another I just would have said ow ow but
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I'm such a colossal [ __ ] like I just
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tried to picture that scenario Dana I
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was like I'm pitching let's say I'm at
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the razzies one day and I'm hosting and
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then Corey Feldman walks up and do I
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knock the Fedora off his head I mean
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what do I do I I'm just playing this a
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million times in my head maybe comedians
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should take a beating you know where
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life beats us down maybe just Steve
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Martin's joke doesn't land whack get
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around yeah choke him out go put him in
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a sleeper put him in a sleeper I don't
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know
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by the way from last week's talk about
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it I know we just you know we can't talk
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with forever Will Smith to me nice
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enough guy and I think when you have a
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an image that you have to guard when
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you're getting to the stratosphere of
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stardom
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uh the rock Brady Tom Brady Will Smith
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like everything isn't overly calculated
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but everyone's telling you say the right
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thing here do the right thing you know
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what I mean they kind of have to play to
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the world now like I have to keep
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everyone happy and be this big star and
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when you deviate from that in such a
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huge way
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it because people I think in this day
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and age especially the last couple years
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really appreciate authenticity and sort
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of celebrities and behind the scenes and
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are you being are you like a real person
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and when you come out like that and do
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something so out of the blue out of
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character
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you almost question everything and you
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go wait what is going on here I think
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that's I think it's tough for Will Smith
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I don't think he's a horrible guy this
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thing happened I'm not a counselor I'm
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not that kind of guy so I would just say
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it'll it'll fix itself at some point
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between him and rock but uh that's all I
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have no more opinions what's like Finn
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is that his opinion I don't know in the
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Fast and the Furious you know where
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they're going across the canyon with the
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car upside down and the passenger goes
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was this the plan he goes this was
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always the plan and you just wonder when
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when will was getting out of the level
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the limo driver is pretty familiar hey
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have a good night tonight you know don't
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punch anyone on the stage
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I mean somebody snapped and you can
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always tell when somebody snapped that
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means it's not the plan just like that
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was not the plan whenever it was buried
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underneath went yo yeah and uh listen
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Chris is one of our one of my best
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friends and you love him and uh so we'll
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stay out of it but Chris I guess we're
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already in it but I will tell I went to
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an Oscar party just to lighten them yeah
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lighten it up a little bit before we get
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to Timmy and uh I the funny thing Dana
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is there's a Vanity Fair party and the
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the the interesting thing is you have
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you get told if you're going and then
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you get told if you have a plus one and
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when you get to go
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that's always you're always measured in
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Hollywood of how you're doing it's so
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crazy I didn't even notice it because I
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had gone a few times and I was going
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with rock probably or someone that had
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an invite so I didn't need to bring
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anyone and then I was informed oh I
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don't have a plus one I go that's such
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an odd thing to get an invite to go
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somewhere alone and then the next year
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I was invited at midnight because you
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get slots really half hour wow so I got
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midnight and no plus one I must had a
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horrible year uh because it's too
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thirsty to try to stay awake and set
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your alarm and then go at midnight hey
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everyone you're like a salmon everyone's
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pouring out to go to guyo series party
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after and you're like no I'm here so I
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got this year I got 9 30 and a plus one
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which is pretty good but there's some
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ears I said oh maybe I'll try to go to
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the Vanity Fair and they go we tried and
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I'm like oh gross you have to ask and
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they're like yeah it's just so crazy
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this year I go oh I can't even go they
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go yeah it's so bad dude I know my
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invite said drop by next week
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here said you can drive by and beep if
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you go really fast no when I went to the
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Oscars pre-pandemic with Mike Myers they
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all right we went to the Oscars
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presented we were at the Oscar party and
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they said we're going to the Vanity Fair
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party I didn't have an invite so I
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wasn't going to go over there and go
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could I get in you know
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oh you didn't even go you could have
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gone what do I have to do Garth I'll do
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Garth to get in could I would like to
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get in they go uh there's no Dana Carvey
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and then you mess up your hair and slow
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the turn and go is there a Garth no it's
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like from the movie I'd like to get by
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now and I'd have a little amateur stun
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gun for a Wayne's World fans I'd like to
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excuse me I'd like to get by now and
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then I would just shock the guy yeah we
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went to and then we went to a party
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after I was with Theo Vaughn the
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comedian and I wrote that goat roper
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with me and then we went to
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a guy who's serious that's what rock was
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so we saw him we saw a bunch of people
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he's just sitting on a patio like
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Jennifer Lawrence Woody Harrelson who's
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super cool and so we just went out there
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and bullshitted with him but he seemed
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all right I don't want to talk too much
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about that but I I think rock is gonna
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be on fine land on his feet and uh I
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would imagine he would want this just to
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blow over because you don't want
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people to think one thing when you're
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doing stand-up you just want to do your
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act and you don't want him to keep
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yelling out something you know or trying
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to get you because there's really not
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that much funny to say about it and it
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almost gets too serious so it's better
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to just buzz through your jokes what
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we've learned uh in recent times as a
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society is that stories go ballistic and
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then they fade away all of a sudden
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it'll just be behind us and just wait
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for that time you know yeah I mean I I
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have to say I watched the Grammys last
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night and it was everything the Oscars
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the Oscars had great hosts and Chris was
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great but obviously it had that debacle
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but the Grammys was amazing like the all
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the music was brilliant I mean it really
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was one funny thing and this is not
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taking away from Trevor Noah because
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he's a cool dude I saw him actually
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there the other night he uh
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he's hosting but what do you do you're
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the next guy to host so the jokes are
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kind of tepid only because you don't
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want to cause a national worldwide
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Ruckus so he's like hey Billy eilish is
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eilish really your last name no probably
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it's actually it's a really good name it
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fits you and you're a great singer and
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everything's going well anyway let's
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look at this table I'm like are these
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jokes I think he's just giving
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compliments because you can't do a joke
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anymore you know what I mean he's
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probably so scared that someone's gonna
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get offended on Twitter with their
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fingers up going you say the wrong thing
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dude and we're gonna dig 19 years into
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your past I laughed my ass off I was at
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home he said hey folks how you doing I
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don't know what the way he said it or
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something I was like that is funny
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what's that good stuff good stuff all
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right let's get on to Tim uh great dude
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this is longer than Tim's episode so I
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think yeah I'm sorry we don't have time
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for Tim Meadows tonight he's been bumped
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off his own podcast
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[Music]
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you mean the one where we had a guide to
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Trump and I did Biden
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yeah the reason I said yes to that
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because I knew I don't have any natural
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discipline but I knew if I said yes to
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that I would actually look at Biden a
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little bit and get some hooks but in the
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writing of it
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it's it's what I call a hot oven
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politically Biden you don't want to ding
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him too much because I had this line of
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like do you think there's a crisis at
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the border there's no crisis at the
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border how do you know good because it
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says so on the piece of paper
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who gave that to you the man who's the
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man the guy he comes in you know the
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drill come on number one the guy comes
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in number two the two part number three
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come on people I love how he gets mad at
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you because you don't understand what
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he's saying but yeah I did do that and
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that was kind of flat because if you're
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doing an impression and you don't get to
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do your rhythm
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then you're just stuck in jokes and then
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it deflates the balloon it has to be a
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marriage of the Rhythm and the top of it
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above but but you know with ladies man
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I'd like to jump ahead okay sorry I
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wanna know I'll say this first yeah the
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thing that I love about it though is
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that it it now gives everyone a hook
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into doing
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yeah to do and buy it and like a normal
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guy on the street now can do that Rhythm
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and do Biden to his friends and I think
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that's that's huge you know that's
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that's a trick you're right Timmy once
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you get a hook and I would do Lauren
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based on Dana's Lauren or whoever I
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don't I didn't know everyone it spread
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like Locus I I don't think anybody
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doesn't do Lauren from the history of
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Saturday Night Live I wonder if they did
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it in the old days because once you hear
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it it's so funny just to talk like him
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it's so funny from my personal history
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but I maybe I misremembered it when I
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got there in 86 no one was doing it it
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seems remarkable smigiel has a good ear
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yeah the the hook that I finally told
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Lauren was him on Wednesday at the board
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kind of doing the sketches back and
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forth picking the show and he would say
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I still have no [ __ ] First Act
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he would hold a card that Whitney Brown
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had it was anyone the the the the pig
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and the Goat anyone
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we did we didn't think it was very good
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Lauren I I thought it was breathtaking
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[ __ ] I got him from that I still have no
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[ __ ] First Act and that's where it
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came from and then I think smile was
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bouncing off me and then everybody did
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it but you know whatever I don't have to
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be the originator I don't have to be
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here
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I wonder if like the original cast had
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like a different version of Lauren and
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what you had because you definitely had
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like the superior you know elegant guy
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who was interested and like I wonder if
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he was like that when he first started
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with those guys you know like if their
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impression is like a quicker like
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Wittier version of that I do know that
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the first year Lauren was like this guys
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we got a big show tonight let's try to
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get it going
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and then by year five yeah lifetime
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limousine you know Paul and I we
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sometimes we go and we just buy socks
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really I mean he had a car he had Eugene
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he had a driver I mean he was an adult I
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want to come by 88 for dinner
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number 88. never underestimate the value
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of lasagna whatever
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system where I should live and he goes I
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go my rent's kind of high like 900.
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David I think it's where you live is
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important he always does your name pain
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but I would pay and I'm like well you're
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not paying me enough to okay
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um I'll get it I go well I have to pay
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it every month and he's like oh I didn't
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know
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I don't know how that works
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my rent was what was like 20 22 000 a
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year and I think I was probably netting
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about 35 in the first season and happy
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happy to be there the exposure Alone
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um but he anyway
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S I was gonna say he had told me at one
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time uh it's better he was like it's
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better to uh live in a place you can't
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afford because it makes you work harder
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to keep it oh I didn't hear that one
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oh yeah that's funny that's a good one
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that's pretty I'll do anything to keep
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these countertops I will not let go of
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this [ __ ] marble I will do another
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show called tina
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Marcy the book of Lauren page three what
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do I say here I don't know Lauren I'm
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gonna fly now you don't fly Marcy stop
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it see you guys get me going Tim is a
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great uh you know audience
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when are you going to Lauren's office
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and and I go on the board and I go
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and I look for my update and I look over
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to where the cemetery on the left where
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it's not in the show it's everything
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that got cut you wonder if it even got
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moved if it was even a debate it's just
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exactly in perfect alignment was and I
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go I'm not in the show this week and
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then I look over and he goes lifesaver
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or popcorn search I would look at I had
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the same experience I would see Church
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chat in the First Act then a Wayne's
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World then Hans and Franz after updating
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I'll [ __ ] kill you no it's a it's an
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emotionally violent place for the best
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of us but I just want to because we're
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podcasting just very quickly explain it
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to people who don't understand we go to
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what we read through in a little room
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well it's like 50 people we read
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sketches for hours each sketch gets a
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3x5 card with the the name it would be
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church lady or Gap girls whatever
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would they say Leon Phelps or Leon
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Phelps I don't know
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and then they're on a bolt giant
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bulletin board and then there's these
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it's sectioned off First Act second act
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third act and so then he starts putting
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them up and you'd see your sketch go up
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and then someone would say something
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he'd be pull it away from the wall they
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place it where the no the no sketch not
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getting on the show area and sometimes
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people go I like David's and he'll go
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back over anyway I just want to set that
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scene for it
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put your job on the line
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for for receptionist but the one thing I
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liked about Lauren in retrospect he was
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like a coach I had in high school
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because I think he loves sports
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metaphors and so to get a true
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compliment from Lauren was really
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special he was not one to pass them out
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Dana is this ever going to work you know
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that'd be after you know yeah
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um it'd be really nice it would be like
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you know really really funny that would
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be a good thing I was like Rudy sofa you
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were like Rudy the entire time yeah yeah
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I just you were not you became the the
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bad boys of Saturday I thought that was
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funny when I got you and Schneider and
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you were like the bad boys and the true
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bad boy of that cast was
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Tim
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it's him
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I I've I've hung out with Tim a little
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bit and heard his some of his stories
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and there's this street side to Tim it's
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not any ego it's not break a doe show
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it's just some you just he has a side of
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him I don't know if it's Detroit or
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something but
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Tim is can go yeah you will want him on
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your side in a fight because I Tim were
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you getting on going down to beat up the
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guy from The New Yorker or whatever only
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if someone [ __ ] with him Tim's not
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trying to pick a fight but you know yeah
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yeah yeah I just yeah I grew up in
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Detroit so I kind of just don't I have a
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very low top you know very low tolerance
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for like when I'm getting [ __ ] from
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people
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I don't know what happened when I told
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you about Dana but yeah I mean something
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at a baseball game with your son maybe
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it was a professional game oh no a
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basketball game basketball games
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yeah yeah we were we were pulling out of
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this drop this parking lot and it was
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kind of crowded should I tell this story
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I don't know it's not I want all I
00:17:48
wanted this I want to hear you have to
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be fascinating we have three and a half
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more hours just tell it yeah I know this
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is the last one no I really this is
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great stuff Tim no it it I was pulling
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out of it after a Bulls game in this
00:18:03
parking lot and with my son and his
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friend we just saw the game and it was
00:18:08
crowded and we were all trying to move
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through the the parking lot and then
00:18:13
this guy just like would not let me
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through and like I was like oh okay you
00:18:18
know whatever you know and then he
00:18:19
pulled up next to me and he told my son
00:18:21
to roll his window down and my son said
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he wants me to roll my window down and I
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was like no don't don't worry you win
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dude and then I was like no roll it down
00:18:30
yeah he rolls it down and the guy goes
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uh hey you think you're special you just
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get to move in and out of here like you
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want to we're all trying to get out not
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the right thing and I go well first of
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all don't you tell my son to roll the
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[ __ ] window down and yeah I am
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special you're gonna ask anybody in this
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[ __ ] parking lot everybody knows me
00:18:51
[ __ ] and he was like yeah you're
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special huh I was like yeah you want to
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get out of the car we can get out of
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this car right now we can go at it
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[ __ ] and my friend
00:19:04
we're sitting there just looking at me
00:19:06
like what the [ __ ] is going on you know
00:19:08
I was I I could not believe this guy was
00:19:11
talking to me like that in front of my
00:19:13
kids first yeah and then second like he
00:19:16
was telling me like he had the right to
00:19:18
get out in front of me like we're all
00:19:20
trying to get out of here you know I
00:19:22
like that he you don't even fight the
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special part what she was hoping you
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would you go I don't think I'm special
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because yeah you do you go I do think
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I'm special he goes
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um
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[Laughter]
00:19:36
the first day I met lovetts I had almost
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the exact same verbatim exchange I was
00:19:42
Tim and John just come on [ __ ]
00:19:45
let's go right now the reason I like
00:19:47
that story is because I avoid conflict
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like we were talking to Chris Rock and
00:19:50
he talked about how tiny he was as a in
00:19:54
high school or so I I want like when I
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was 14
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went to high school I went I was out for
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D basketball which is like you know
00:20:03
there was DC junior varsity varsity so D
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it's not a joke but our Center was five
00:20:07
foot three he controlled the paint but
00:20:09
my point is this I'm not kidding it was
00:20:12
[ __ ] basketball so I was five minutes
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I was can't say that little people I was
00:20:17
five one 92 pounds at age 14. uh-huh and
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you were
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were you bigly probably small I I had my
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growth spurt if you call it a gross
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person in high school like probably in
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like 11th grade I think I got I went
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from like five seven to five ten or
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whatever like in my height
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and then but when I was a kid I loved
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Sports and I could play sports
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well in my neighborhood like with my
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friends and [ __ ] like I could play
00:20:53
quarterback I could like I was good you
00:20:55
know and then we played Little League
00:20:57
football and everybody else it was like
00:21:00
grown men showed up little league
00:21:04
football like these guys were like six
00:21:06
one [ __ ] 220 bearded 14 year olds and
00:21:11
the coach at one point I was a scrub and
00:21:13
I accepted the fact I played like
00:21:15
defensive back and I was like I was a
00:21:17
scrub and I accepted the fact that I was
00:21:19
a Scrub but one time in the coach they
00:21:22
they didn't they ran out of tackling
00:21:24
dummies and then so they wanted to do
00:21:27
something great around so you became the
00:21:29
channel you put me in the middle
00:21:33
and they ran blocking drills around me
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[ __ ] that that's how much of a scrub I
00:21:40
was man now when you say scrub in this
00:21:42
context well I think I know what you
00:21:43
mean but this what is what is a scrub in
00:21:45
that context it means it means like not
00:21:48
second string
00:21:53
you get to hang out like my my best
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friend was a good running back
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so right
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it was like okay well he's friends with
00:22:03
this dude
00:22:04
so we'll we won't cut him because he
00:22:06
plays hard and he also let us use him as
00:22:08
a practice dummy so I love I love flag
00:22:12
football man I loved I was a running
00:22:14
back flag football and I was yeah really
00:22:18
good believe it or not last time and as
00:22:20
soon as tackle football came in it was
00:22:21
forget this it's over you know get it I
00:22:24
was pretty fast too much of Iron Man but
00:22:26
I'm from Detroit also but I'm also a
00:22:29
colossal [ __ ] so you just never know I
00:22:31
thought I thought you were a phoenix guy
00:22:33
I but I I was born in Bloomfield Hills
00:22:36
oh and then uh that's in Detroit I guess
00:22:40
I know that for four years it's outside
00:22:42
of Detroit and then I said let's move it
00:22:44
out when I was four
00:22:46
and my dad said he had a wagon train
00:22:50
going Arizona it was we were four six
00:22:52
and eight and my dad was sort of you
00:22:55
know here and there like jumping around
00:22:57
and he goes we we I got a job in
00:22:59
Scottsdale so we all moved to Phoenix
00:23:02
and then he goes
00:23:03
I don't have a job
00:23:05
and then he left
00:23:07
and then he left and he left my mom and
00:23:09
we're like I go later I said can't you
00:23:12
just divorce her in Michigan where she
00:23:14
has friends he's like too easy too
00:23:17
predictable
00:23:18
geez he's kind of he's kind of fast on
00:23:21
his feet I see where you got your wit I
00:23:23
mean and no remorse well we were well in
00:23:26
my day well first of all I have three
00:23:28
older brothers beating the [ __ ] out of
00:23:30
me plus her dad so I was pounded night
00:23:32
today which made me have a lot of anger
00:23:35
but it would come out verbally and in
00:23:37
great school I got the big kid Steve
00:23:40
lead to be my best friend and he was my
00:23:42
enforcer and I actually had a club
00:23:44
called the Great Club in fifth grade
00:23:46
Jesus had a moniker there were only
00:23:49
three it was Dave Marquez Steve Lee and
00:23:51
me and everyone wanted to be in the
00:23:53
Great Club we say how do we get in the
00:23:55
Great Club I go you got to be great that
00:23:57
was fifth grade so Tim stupid I've been
00:23:59
asking I wanna before we get into SNL
00:24:02
and and growlings or second City I've
00:24:05
been curious about because I want to
00:24:07
paint a picture of you in your formative
00:24:08
years I call them like from age three or
00:24:12
four to twelve and influences the things
00:24:15
I'm interested in are movies or theater
00:24:17
or music
00:24:19
what was influencing your your eventual
00:24:22
career choice and also just for fun uh
00:24:26
you're if you got a bike that was really
00:24:28
special to you or toy that you remember
00:24:30
or you know so anyway you don't have to
00:24:32
answer you could do it you could you
00:24:34
could punt on this one or just
00:24:36
um no no like what was your first movie
00:24:39
that you remembered seeing that affected
00:24:40
you or TV show
00:24:43
well
00:24:45
I think you know like when I was younger
00:24:47
Jerry Lewis yeah and was hysterical to
00:24:52
me and my not a professor on TV yeah
00:24:55
yeah cousin Vinnie even some of the
00:24:57
black and white it's even some of the
00:25:00
like black and white stuff that he did
00:25:01
we used to just laugh at you know yeah
00:25:04
but I think like the one movie that like
00:25:08
was like influential where it was like
00:25:10
whoa I like this movie and what these
00:25:13
people are doing was Blazing Saddles oh
00:25:17
yeah I saw it yeah and then
00:25:20
I went to visit my brother in college so
00:25:23
I was like probably 16 and he was at
00:25:25
Eastern Michigan and he was an usher in
00:25:27
this movie theater make to make money
00:25:29
and so just to give me something to do
00:25:32
he was like just come hang out and watch
00:25:34
this movie you got to see it it's really
00:25:36
fun
00:25:37
and uh I was at the theater though it
00:25:40
was
00:25:40
it was in the theater yeah
00:25:43
and watched it all day I watched every
00:25:46
show really yeah yeah I went with them
00:25:49
in like in the morning and stayed until
00:25:51
it was over with I [ __ ] loved it I
00:25:53
couldn't believe what I was seeing I
00:25:56
still think that about it you know it's
00:25:58
like whoa and Clevon little was the star
00:26:03
and then I did a sitcom with Mickey
00:26:05
Rooney in New York in 1981 my first job
00:26:08
in Cleveland little came on as a guest
00:26:10
star
00:26:11
and I was Starstruck but Scatman
00:26:13
Carruthers and and you know Mickey
00:26:15
Rooney probably never saw Blazing
00:26:16
Saddles but I kept wanting to talk to
00:26:18
Cleveland about that film and you kiss
00:26:20
his ass yeah I kissed his ass I was
00:26:22
trying to get stuff out of him see if I
00:26:24
could get a job tell me if you guys
00:26:26
laughed at uh when I went and saw
00:26:28
accidentally
00:26:30
my brother took me to Life of Brian and
00:26:33
I thought it was so funny and I came out
00:26:35
of nowhere I was like I didn't really
00:26:37
get it it was English but it was still
00:26:39
silly and funny
00:26:41
and I started to get into it going this
00:26:43
one's pretty funny too and I K I had no
00:26:45
expectations so you know the other ones
00:26:48
I like animal house and all that [ __ ]
00:26:49
but when I saw that I was like oh I'm
00:26:52
such an Exquisite palette
00:26:55
I understand all the European comedies
00:26:58
too and what about people on TV like you
00:27:01
know for me it was seen you know geez uh
00:27:05
laughing or yeah Wilson or Carol Burnett
00:27:09
or the Smothers Brothers yeah yeah and
00:27:11
you guys and bleeding into the 70s uh
00:27:14
you know there was Steve Martin going on
00:27:16
TV and uh you know um just this whole
00:27:21
Counter Culture started to happen with
00:27:22
Carlin becoming a hippie and prior and
00:27:25
there was all that movement in 75 with
00:27:28
the beginning of SNL full size yes see I
00:27:31
did that I was just talking about stuff
00:27:34
I bring it right back
00:27:35
but what are you what were you like into
00:27:37
a commercial or something like you know
00:27:39
I don't even know if we have commercials
00:27:41
we're gonna have so many apps we have to
00:27:43
have special special things where Dave
00:27:46
and I'll go into a chamber and just read
00:27:47
for hours no it's all we do is Dollar
00:27:50
Shave and manscape those are our only
00:27:52
two sponsors whenever
00:27:55
Timmy gets into a good um story we go
00:27:58
into a split screen and we do a
00:28:00
commercial while he's on mute and then
00:28:02
we go come back let's tell him that no
00:28:06
don't give away what we're gonna do but
00:28:08
who uh were you um were you like an
00:28:11
animal house that kind of thing or were
00:28:13
you Monty Python or were you Saturday
00:28:14
Night Live or all of the above yeah
00:28:17
all of the above I totally I like I read
00:28:20
like um National Lampoon magazines all
00:28:23
right right right I forgot about that
00:28:25
you know yeah and it was all when you
00:28:27
would buy them back then like especially
00:28:30
where I grew up I almost always felt
00:28:31
like they had they had them by mistake
00:28:34
in my store where because it was like
00:28:37
they had nothing else like that but they
00:28:39
would sell them new to Playboy magazine
00:28:40
because they thought they were like
00:28:42
because they had nudity and So
00:28:45
eventually cartoon nudity right
00:28:48
and also like photos because they had
00:28:51
this thing called photo funnies wow and
00:28:53
they would show they would show titty in
00:28:55
it yeah I called them whack-off funnies
00:28:57
titty you mean bosoms or breasts titty
00:29:02
has a playfulness to it I don't know if
00:29:03
it's offensive but it's kind of like
00:29:05
titty oh here's me looking through
00:29:06
[ __ ] photo funny
00:29:11
so what I don't even look at the joke
00:29:13
boobs
00:29:15
I'll worry about that comedic purposes
00:29:17
later
00:29:19
I want to go back to his childhood what
00:29:20
was your favorite meal macaroni and
00:29:23
cheese spaghetti Pizza as a kid Lane
00:29:25
Cuisine McDonald's what was a special
00:29:28
treat or a special dessert in your house
00:29:31
trash Retreat I would have to say uh
00:29:34
well I mean of those choices I would say
00:29:37
macaroni and cheese always works
00:29:42
my earliest my my earliest memory is
00:29:45
like uh waking up after waking up from a
00:29:49
nap and smelling chicken being fried in
00:29:53
the kitchen oh it sounds like the
00:29:55
beginning of a sitcom song or some kind
00:29:59
of Tennessee Williams yeah I love Good
00:30:03
Times by the way
00:30:05
[Music]
00:30:06
did you live with JJ Walker I thought
00:30:09
good times was hilarious
00:30:12
you know what I thought JJ Walker was a
00:30:15
hacker
00:30:18
we could cut anything you want as a kid
00:30:21
really hack
00:30:23
no I thought he was funny I liked him
00:30:26
better on this show than when I saw him
00:30:29
doing stand-up when I was younger like
00:30:32
yeah I thought he was funnier on the
00:30:33
show I had a bone to pick with him I'll
00:30:36
finish your thought I have a I had a
00:30:38
problem with Jake whoa not really but
00:30:41
I'm playing the Westwood Comedy Store
00:30:43
I'm coming down from San Francisco
00:30:45
because George Slaughter saw me up there
00:30:47
I had a good set I was so green I was in
00:30:50
college I didn't know anything I bought
00:30:52
a corduroy suit with a corduroy vest and
00:30:55
then I got invited to do a spot at the
00:30:57
Westwood Comedy Store I had a girlfriend
00:30:58
at the time with me there I went up and
00:31:02
bombed like you know epic I didn't know
00:31:05
how to get out of bar I did my Star Trek
00:31:06
bit everything I'm drenched in sweat
00:31:09
Dead Silence I go over I'm in a booth I
00:31:11
sit next to the girlfriend at the time
00:31:13
and she's scooched away whoa and then
00:31:16
they said get JJ Walker he I think he's
00:31:19
gonna walk the audience so JJ went up on
00:31:23
stage turned to me and said watch how
00:31:25
it's done young man
00:31:27
which I don't really blame I'm not
00:31:29
really mad at him at all but that was uh
00:31:31
you said JJ Walker I got a little
00:31:32
triggered so I'm just gonna take five
00:31:34
minutes
00:31:35
sort of I'm going to take a cool bath
00:31:37
this happens a lot in the podcast and
00:31:39
I'll be right back everyone triggers
00:31:41
Dana everything
00:31:42
everything triggers me so that's
00:31:45
probably that's probably the only time
00:31:46
someone said get me Jim JJ Walker that
00:31:50
was the last time he's he's gonna walk
00:31:52
the room he walked
00:31:54
them you don't want to walk the room JJ
00:31:56
Walker
00:31:58
you know on Cameo if he says Dynamite
00:32:00
it's five dollars more
00:32:03
right is it worth it well
00:32:06
it's worth it I feel I don't know I have
00:32:08
a character because I wanted to be like
00:32:10
Larry the Cable Guy I think he has that
00:32:11
great get her done I have a character
00:32:13
character I'll just do one line it's new
00:32:16
but it's intentionally bad red red neki
00:32:19
the redneck comedian okay I'm red red
00:32:22
Nikki the redneck comedian I married my
00:32:25
sister only because Mama took me down
00:32:27
come and get some
00:32:30
it's to come and get some mama said what
00:32:33
do you want I found it you found it
00:32:37
mama said red what do you want to do
00:32:40
what do you want to do with your life I
00:32:43
said I just want to live in a shack and
00:32:45
drink beer all day mama said don't dream
00:32:48
so big because you always end up
00:32:50
disappointed come and get some there it
00:32:53
is come and get some I gotta catch
00:32:55
phrases I just don't have the platform
00:32:59
did you Workshop the the catchphrase
00:33:03
that's pretty good come and get some
00:33:05
well I have this other podcast uh called
00:33:07
fantastic my son named it but I I kind
00:33:09
of hatched it on that we almost call it
00:33:11
come and get some it's surprisingly uh
00:33:15
it's positive it's it's like life come
00:33:17
and get some you know even though what
00:33:19
he's saying has no relationship to it so
00:33:21
you know how the creative process
00:33:23
whatever all right here's another one
00:33:25
Tim ready this is it's a little
00:33:27
undercooked but it's for uh it would be
00:33:30
for read through uh I say like a joke
00:33:33
like I used to say bless you when people
00:33:36
sneeze now I say oh [ __ ] we're all gonna
00:33:38
die rack them Rack Em is a good one
00:33:43
because you know when you play pool and
00:33:45
you hit the a pawn you go rock them
00:33:48
yeah
00:33:50
so we got rock and we want to come and
00:33:52
get songs
00:33:53
Timothy Timothy Meadows
00:33:56
um yeah now there's this section where
00:33:59
you you've been influenced you're
00:34:01
dreaming
00:34:02
you're like 18 19. when do you first
00:34:05
kind of say to yourself I'm gonna try
00:34:07
this or was it a slow process yeah when
00:34:10
does it cross your mind to do comedy for
00:34:13
real for real
00:34:15
was uh I was I was in college at Wayne
00:34:19
State University
00:34:20
and that checks out because
00:34:24
I I did a Wikipedia dive yes is Wayne
00:34:29
look me up yeah we come prepared on this
00:34:33
podcast I know for sure Tim is this yeah
00:34:36
yeah so you're you're getting you're in
00:34:39
a radio and television program like I
00:34:41
was in you're not in theater at that
00:34:43
point right or both you're doing both
00:34:46
yeah no I was doing both and uh okay I
00:34:49
was into radio and I'll tell you a
00:34:52
little Side Story was I really was
00:34:55
Howard Stern was doing his Radio Show in
00:34:58
New York when I was on in college yeah
00:35:01
and it was one of those things where it
00:35:03
was like can you
00:35:05
do something funny like this guy is
00:35:07
doing you know yeah and so I it was like
00:35:11
the one way I thought okay I could like
00:35:13
sneak being funny into being a radio DJ
00:35:18
um yeah and so yeah I tried to do that a
00:35:21
little bit in college but then I and so
00:35:23
that I did too by the way yeah yeah and
00:35:27
but that was what I I kind of wanted I
00:35:30
was like oh I can maybe try to be funny
00:35:32
you know because I was funny around my
00:35:33
culture friends and stuff I was like the
00:35:36
funny dude everybody else was like cool
00:35:38
or athletic or smart yeah or whatever
00:35:41
chicks like funny and most people that
00:35:45
are funny with their friends get that
00:35:46
wake-up call
00:35:47
when they try it and then they realize
00:35:49
they're not
00:35:51
you know like most people that go with
00:35:52
stand-up amateur night and they're like
00:35:54
I'm the funniest guy at the office you
00:35:56
know when uh Pat goes into the coffee
00:35:57
room and everyone goes
00:35:59
and so then they go I'll just keep it at
00:36:02
the office because you don't know my
00:36:04
references but that's where you're
00:36:07
breaking through you're doing it and
00:36:09
then you you've got a little nugget of
00:36:11
something
00:36:12
that keeps you around
00:36:14
and they keep you around too so what did
00:36:16
you do I mean for with this thought
00:36:18
where did it evolve to where you got on
00:36:20
stage to get laughs
00:36:21
well I took these improv classes because
00:36:24
I read a story about uh this teacher in
00:36:28
Detroit who had studied under Dale close
00:36:32
I and I knew Dale close his name from
00:36:35
being a fan of National Lampoon radio
00:36:38
and all that [ __ ] and and SNL that [ __ ]
00:36:41
so I was like oh yeah you know so I was
00:36:43
like oh this is like I had a reference
00:36:45
to something that you know not a lot of
00:36:48
people had a reference to yeah so I took
00:36:50
classes with this guy Jonathan round and
00:36:55
um and then we I I did took his class
00:36:59
he was the first person to kind of go
00:37:01
you you're doing something good or
00:37:04
whatever and then he put me into his
00:37:06
improv group basically and this is in
00:37:09
Chicago
00:37:10
in Detroit Detroit still okay yeah Dell
00:37:14
close
00:37:15
no this was uh Jonathan round okay he
00:37:19
took he studied under devil clothes
00:37:21
is a famous uh Second City teacher yeah
00:37:26
yeah considered brilliant at his job and
00:37:30
and where is he stationed in Chicago he
00:37:32
was uh Jonathan round was in Detroit
00:37:36
the main Dell close so you sort of like
00:37:39
went from JV to meet with the real guy
00:37:42
yeah yeah
00:37:44
because what happened was I mean it's
00:37:47
it's a long it's I mean
00:37:49
you can Google it and read I don't know
00:37:51
this is your show
00:37:55
how do I I mean I just wanna just tell
00:37:57
us how you're feeling like besides the
00:37:59
logistics what are you feeling are you I
00:38:01
mean like you're excited I I think
00:38:03
someone someone said you're good someone
00:38:06
said you're funny it's huge yes yes and
00:38:09
I was the and and so I told I was
00:38:12
telling my friends my real friends about
00:38:14
it like I took these classes and I'd get
00:38:16
on stage and we make stuff up and I'm
00:38:20
really funny you know and like they like
00:38:22
it and stuff and then my friends even
00:38:24
started to come and see the shows and
00:38:26
stuff and they validated they were like
00:38:28
you're good you know so it's going up
00:38:30
now yeah it's like it's going yeah and
00:38:32
so like there was points on stage
00:38:34
working with the people that I was
00:38:35
working with because we were doing
00:38:37
long-form improv and we were doing short
00:38:38
things and games and singing and making
00:38:41
the stuff you know on stage and there
00:38:43
was nothing like that in Detroit so
00:38:45
people would come in see it because
00:38:47
there was no other game in town it was
00:38:49
only us yeah exactly so we have
00:38:51
recurring audiences of people that would
00:38:53
come and see our show and though and
00:38:57
that was where the spark came from me
00:38:58
he's like you guys know like being up on
00:39:00
stage and feeling like you cannot do
00:39:02
anything wrong you make the right by the
00:39:06
way words you make the right improv like
00:39:09
oh nothing like it and so by the way
00:39:13
every everyone everyone understands kind
00:39:15
of I'm sorry to interrupt him but that
00:39:17
that comedy is hard to do stand up but
00:39:20
improv is so [ __ ] hard and and people
00:39:23
I think they get it but that Whose Line
00:39:26
Is anyway doesn't convey how hard it is
00:39:28
to think that faster I did it for fun
00:39:31
with some comedians and I was like what
00:39:33
the [ __ ] is going on I'm pretty fast but
00:39:35
I go it's a whole different muscle you
00:39:37
have to learn and if you're good at that
00:39:40
you have to be proud because it's it's
00:39:43
hard as [ __ ] you do get it is like being
00:39:46
an athlete right that you get acclimated
00:39:48
your brain gets kind of fluid you know
00:39:51
Robin Williams just uh come up I've been
00:39:54
doing stand-up in San Francisco in the
00:39:55
late 70s he was on Mork and Mindy and
00:39:57
even just come up on stage and start
00:39:59
riffing with me and he was like triple
00:40:02
time you know I was just like but it
00:40:04
does make you start to pick up it'll
00:40:06
wake you up but so go ahead your
00:40:07
experience though you became known as
00:40:10
with
00:40:11
uh the chocolate thunder in Chicago was
00:40:15
that your nickname no that's a
00:40:17
basketball player who is who is that the
00:40:19
Dawkins or
00:40:23
I was called the alabaster assassin
00:40:28
I was called Casper The Fruitcake
00:40:33
Lauren called you that can you get
00:40:35
Casper The Fruitcake in here because
00:40:37
they used to say you're Lauren's boy I'm
00:40:40
like he doesn't put me on I wish he'd
00:40:42
hate me and then I'd be on every week
00:40:43
which ones you're in his office every
00:40:46
week with a single tear coming down
00:40:48
Lauren doesn't like complainers no I
00:40:50
made that up so uh we're starting to try
00:40:54
to I yelled it I yelled at Downey once
00:40:56
what a mistake
00:40:59
Downey the famous head writer you yelled
00:41:02
at him
00:41:03
I was one of the smartest people I've
00:41:05
ever met Jimmy in that go ahead was
00:41:08
there a thing you were known for or a
00:41:10
hook or did you start to develop like
00:41:12
well playing freeze tag he's really good
00:41:14
at this or was it just the entire
00:41:17
structure I think all the different
00:41:19
things
00:41:20
in the beginning I think I was really
00:41:23
really good at introducing comedic ideas
00:41:26
and then uh and I was also really good
00:41:30
at
00:41:31
supporting other ideas and adding to it
00:41:34
you know yeah without taking away from
00:41:36
the person doing it and so I think
00:41:39
people really got
00:41:42
the that people trusted me on stage uh
00:41:45
because I wouldn't I didn't abandon
00:41:46
scenes even if they were failing right
00:41:49
you know or undercut or all the
00:41:51
different childish Shakespearean well if
00:41:54
you're a good that's good team player
00:41:55
[ __ ] when you can see improv and when
00:41:58
they come to SNL I think they're pretty
00:42:00
good at that because they're just been
00:42:02
doing it and uh stand ups they always
00:42:05
said had a harder time sharing the
00:42:07
spotlight but you sort of figured out
00:42:09
like I don't talk at this part
00:42:14
I think this blob over here says
00:42:17
something and then back to me have you
00:42:19
ever had people say to you oh boy you
00:42:22
guys must go crazy on that Saturday
00:42:24
Night Live just like saying whatever
00:42:26
comes I think it's all improv I go no
00:42:28
improvisation on Saturday Night Live you
00:42:30
you do all the improvisation backstage
00:42:33
in writer's rooms and riffing and then
00:42:35
up there you're locked in unless you're
00:42:37
in in one which when we get to your
00:42:40
ladies man character you had a lot of
00:42:42
time with a locked shot so you could be
00:42:45
a little playful you could take
00:42:47
something in the moment but not when
00:42:49
they're cutting around you know so or
00:42:51
when someone else involved you don't
00:42:52
want to throw them so let's right just
00:42:55
for we're um we're gonna take a 20
00:42:57
minute break and start no but they uh so
00:43:00
and then I'm gonna press record
00:43:03
so you're yeah we should start soon
00:43:06
um oh whoops no that's it's going we got
00:43:09
a recording so this how many years
00:43:11
between this and then you getting on SNL
00:43:15
you know how many years were you in the
00:43:17
trenches and was SNL your big when you
00:43:19
go to Chicago are you Chicago yet I I
00:43:23
just get to Chicago just get to Chicago
00:43:26
and and get into the Improv scene there
00:43:30
because Dale close is actually there
00:43:32
teaching so I started taking his classes
00:43:36
and I started to I get put on a team our
00:43:42
team becomes the best team at the club
00:43:46
um we're like the second best Herald
00:43:48
team in the city you know which means
00:43:50
nothing to you guys but it was like a
00:43:52
thing in the Amazon community that's a
00:43:54
big deal there's a group called we were
00:43:57
called Grime and Punishment and uh uh
00:44:00
and then
00:44:02
um I was thinking Crime and Punishment
00:44:04
Crime and Punishment punishment come and
00:44:07
get some I was in the Coconut kids for a
00:44:09
while we didn't go very far I'm sorry go
00:44:12
ahead hey was that with favro I didn't
00:44:14
know favro did improv to be honest yeah
00:44:16
if everyone was there during that time
00:44:18
too oh okay but yeah so so I was doing
00:44:22
that and I was taking classes in Second
00:44:23
City
00:44:24
this teacher that I had named Jeff
00:44:26
machowski said
00:44:29
I want you to audition for the touring
00:44:30
company
00:44:31
uh our audition for the touring company
00:44:33
got hired with a whole bunch of people
00:44:37
that are now famous people
00:44:40
um like Amy Sedaris uh Jane Lynch
00:44:45
uh like who else got hired like uh
00:44:48
Stephen Colbert got hired that Year
00:44:51
Stephen Colbert how did he end up doing
00:44:58
did Farley come around did when did
00:45:01
Farley appear
00:45:03
ance or Mike Myers first year my flowers
00:45:07
came after my first year touring he was
00:45:09
like the next year he was auditioning
00:45:11
and I met Farley like doing doing Improv
00:45:15
uh over at improv Olympic when I wasn't
00:45:19
on the road touring and so I got to like
00:45:23
improvise with him and his team
00:45:29
yeah you two were the best of Second
00:45:31
City show in a bus or cars you go all
00:45:36
over you play theaters all over the
00:45:37
country you you like oh really oh okay
00:45:40
you rent a van they drive you you do a
00:45:44
tour of like colleges and small theaters
00:45:46
I didn't know that and you learned the
00:45:48
old classic
00:45:49
sketches and you learn a bunch of
00:45:52
different ones and then as you go along
00:45:54
you change your running order depending
00:45:56
on where you are or whatever and so you
00:45:58
get this library of Second City sketches
00:46:01
that you learn and so and I didn't do
00:46:04
theater so I had no it was my only
00:46:07
training of like I got to learn this and
00:46:09
I'll say it on on stage and then repeat
00:46:12
it the next night as if it's a fresh
00:46:13
idea you know yeah uh so so Second City
00:46:17
was really my the theater training that
00:46:20
I got I didn't I never did any play I
00:46:23
never did anything else me neither it
00:46:25
was just stand up what how much money
00:46:27
were you made how old are you at this
00:46:29
point how much money can you make doing
00:46:31
this
00:46:32
were you just barely able to um you know
00:46:34
no I I like when I was trying when I was
00:46:37
touring I was you know it was pretty
00:46:39
decent I think I was probably making
00:46:42
I'd say for the whole year like 17
00:46:46
000 or something like okay so after tax
00:46:49
would be maybe nine thousand I don't
00:46:51
care
00:46:52
so uh you're making a model efficient
00:46:56
living yeah
00:46:57
but I was also doing commercials in
00:47:00
Chicago so it was another like lucrative
00:47:03
thing and I actually did I was modeling
00:47:08
I did some modeling work when I was in
00:47:10
Chicago I am not surprised what you had
00:47:13
the looks you got the looks The Ladies
00:47:16
Man is the ladies you're living your
00:47:19
best life at this moment you're young
00:47:21
you're touring you're making money
00:47:23
you're modeling I mean you know I mean
00:47:26
yeah it's very exciting there's only
00:47:28
that one time of your life
00:47:30
the life is very simple then it's the
00:47:33
world of Tim and you're just a man about
00:47:35
town
00:47:38
[Music]
00:47:41
everything was dependent on my looks
00:47:42
that's that was the only problem Lauren
00:47:45
said it he's an extremely good looking
00:47:47
it might get in the way
00:47:50
um we have a new good looking cast
00:47:52
member so write him into those sketches
00:47:54
we put him in a loose suit he's very
00:47:56
very built we put him in a loose he's
00:47:59
built oh we don't want to ever show his
00:48:01
legs he's always taking his shirt off
00:48:05
when do you get on a call to get on SNL
00:48:08
do they audition everyone at a second
00:48:10
City and then they pluck well they came
00:48:13
out and saw Mike Myers like a couple
00:48:16
years before they saw me
00:48:18
and a new mic back in back then when he
00:48:21
was dating or he was living with uh
00:48:24
Robin yeah
00:48:26
and then uh oh that far back
00:48:28
yeah and then um okay
00:48:32
they kept coming and so after that they
00:48:33
started coming out to see Farley
00:48:36
um
00:48:37
and how are you I was in the cast with
00:48:41
Farley we did three reviews together
00:48:44
meet with that cast uh Odin Kirk was
00:48:48
there
00:48:50
all the names we keep hearing Odin Kirk
00:48:54
[ __ ] so they they got you Odenkirk and
00:48:56
Farley out of there yeah yeah wow for
00:48:59
the show so what year did you come on
00:49:01
was it 90 or with Farley or 80 90.
00:49:06
February February of 91.
00:49:10
and you ended up staying 10 years
00:49:16
which was a record at the time [ __ ]
00:49:19
hey did you make good money at the end
00:49:21
or no or not really in your head
00:49:24
um I think I made decent money at the
00:49:27
time I you know I yeah I thought I think
00:49:30
I made decent money I don't think I was
00:49:32
like
00:49:33
but yeah but again just like when I
00:49:35
started I had other things going on when
00:49:38
I was leaving SNL so yeah you know I had
00:49:41
money coming in for myself you work
00:49:43
Non-Stop
00:49:44
I was uh also selling crack uh at the
00:49:47
end of my career
00:49:48
just to keep a lot of good customers at
00:49:52
30 Rock you gave up a lot of good
00:49:55
customers to do SNL that's horrible what
00:49:57
so you got to get back you want you
00:49:59
walked into which I call I think kind of
00:50:02
one of the most intense
00:50:04
times of SNL because you had the
00:50:06
leftovers
00:50:07
with uh Phil Hartman and myself and Mike
00:50:10
Myers and so forth and then and then you
00:50:13
had Sandler and and yourself and uh Rock
00:50:16
and Spade and Schneider so it was it was
00:50:20
intense so when I came in it was like
00:50:21
four cats four regular cast members or
00:50:24
something so you came into like a big so
00:50:27
it took you time I'm assuming to get the
00:50:29
necessary time in front of the audience
00:50:31
for them to discover you
00:50:33
and you to get that level of confidence
00:50:35
right here was the hurdle when I first
00:50:38
started on the show first of all you
00:50:40
know to both of you guys you were I mean
00:50:44
I was fans you know I was a fan and I
00:50:49
was a fan of both of you like I've seen
00:50:50
both of you guys on the show I'd seen
00:50:52
David Duke stand up I had I was a huge
00:50:55
fan and a huge fan of the show so coming
00:50:57
into that cast man I swear to God the
00:51:01
first two or three
00:51:03
shows I was just like I it was like a
00:51:08
dream yeah and I was like how how what
00:51:12
what is happening and I swear to God I
00:51:15
thought they were going to come into the
00:51:17
meeting one night one day and say that
00:51:19
dude over there is not supposed
00:51:25
records he sold records in in Chicago
00:51:28
about three years ago he's not supposed
00:51:30
to be in here pitching ideas
00:51:32
you're almost happy just watching you're
00:51:35
like I can't believe I'm an 8h just this
00:51:37
close to watching the show yeah I guess
00:51:39
I'm supposed to be on it I have no idea
00:51:41
how but it's fun just to be here I I one
00:51:46
time went nine shows though
00:51:48
being on anything but maybe one update
00:51:51
and wow I thought it was unfair and then
00:51:55
my dad goes who told you was fair
00:51:58
that's the first time
00:52:00
that's the first time he saw him since
00:52:02
he left you in Phoenix
00:52:06
he got in his car and he drove away yeah
00:52:09
life's not fair wasn't I supposed to
00:52:11
stick around I go yeah and he goes that
00:52:14
didn't work out too well yeah and guess
00:52:15
what that nickname Cupcake fruitcake
00:52:18
whatever it is Casper fruit cake get a
00:52:21
new moniker kid
00:52:24
hey Lauren good luck with that little
00:52:26
puss I bailed
00:52:29
so uh so you get on and then you're you
00:52:33
round all these people and the show is
00:52:34
really cooking and all we had just all
00:52:37
kinds of stuff happening Wayne's World
00:52:38
was happening you know and Toons is the
00:52:40
cat and so how did you find your find
00:52:42
your place what was your first little
00:52:45
inroad of a character or a sketch that
00:52:48
you did where you landed it felt great
00:52:50
or do you remember the moment where you
00:52:52
felt like I'm I couldn't do this I'm
00:52:54
gonna be great on this
00:52:56
uh my third show was Alec Baldwin and uh
00:53:01
great uh comedian I forgot who the
00:53:04
musical guest was that year but um
00:53:07
I wrote a sketch called Cyrano
00:53:10
with me and Alec and Jan
00:53:14
and it was like it the my surprise it
00:53:19
was the first time I had something it
00:53:22
was only my third show in Shoemaker or
00:53:25
whoever moved it up in the run through
00:53:27
for read through it was like the second
00:53:29
or third piece and I was like holy
00:53:31
spirit is the placement there is very
00:53:33
important too I didn't even know that
00:53:34
for a long time that's that's nice the
00:53:36
first 10 sketches get the most attention
00:53:39
well everyone wilts after two hours
00:53:41
you're wilting so the first first hour
00:53:43
is very Prime but that place and also
00:53:46
you're like you're basically following
00:53:48
like who like usually it'll be a Smiggle
00:53:50
sketch or or it's like the first couple
00:53:52
are like strong here's a monologue
00:53:55
here's this and so you get a feel for
00:53:57
like oh the show's gonna go like
00:53:58
Superman and so they put you at that
00:54:01
high and so my the Lauren started to
00:54:06
read the the stage directions
00:54:09
and which was uh you know Tim is dressed
00:54:13
as Cyrano and he has a six inch wide
00:54:16
nose
00:54:16
and then he [ __ ] belly laughed at the
00:54:20
same direction
00:54:22
and then he looked down and down
00:54:28
the table and they like looked at each
00:54:30
other and sort of like nodded oh nice he
00:54:33
kept reading and then we did the whole
00:54:35
sketch and the joke of the sketch was
00:54:37
that I was hearing no I spoke for Alec
00:54:40
Baldwin I gave him love advice while Jan
00:54:44
was his the woman he was trying to court
00:54:46
but I talked like Barry White and I hid
00:54:49
behind the bush how did he talk what did
00:54:52
he sound like what would he say
00:54:53
I mean he just talked basically like
00:54:55
this hey baby yeah you gotta bend over
00:54:58
and let me see that love you got you
00:55:01
know whatever I remember the line
00:55:04
I love it and so and then and then
00:55:06
Odenkirk gave me a good out which was
00:55:09
because we were doing it like it was
00:55:11
like uh we were doing it it it flowed it
00:55:13
was funny and then old Kirk said you
00:55:16
should be sitting in a chair at the end
00:55:18
while they're making love sort of bored
00:55:20
and just reading the paper and talking
00:55:22
to her very sexually like and so it's
00:55:25
them like kissing and you pan out and
00:55:27
you just see me going yeah baby yeah I
00:55:30
love you
00:55:33
God the out is so important on those
00:55:36
things it's a hilarious
00:55:43
you know Tuesday that Tuesday night when
00:55:46
we were I was writing because I wrote it
00:55:47
by myself uh and also remember this is
00:55:50
another fun experience like interesting
00:55:51
experience was that when I when they
00:55:54
this happened a couple times when I got
00:55:57
something in past read through where it
00:55:59
was like being considered for the show
00:56:00
and they were bringing you know they
00:56:01
bring you in and ask you questions
00:56:03
remember those moments oh yeah oh they
00:56:06
go they come back Tim can you come in
00:56:09
and you go oh everyone goes [ __ ]
00:56:11
we would like to see you in his office
00:56:14
it's always someone with a slight Peter
00:56:16
Laurie Lauren would like to see you and
00:56:18
talk to you in his office
00:56:25
I go in there and he says he goes uh he
00:56:29
asked me who helped me write it
00:56:32
and it just had it had my name in
00:56:34
Odenkirk and I said you know he goes who
00:56:37
else was there anybody else and I go no
00:56:39
I I wrote it I wrote it by myself and
00:56:42
Bob gave me the out you know and he goes
00:56:44
okay okay good thank you and then they
00:56:47
let me out and then another time I got a
00:56:49
sketch on he it was I wrote it by myself
00:56:52
and he brought me in maybe he goes like
00:56:54
who helped you write the sketch I'm like
00:56:57
Tim who sent you this I I wrote it by
00:56:59
myself and then he goes do you you know
00:57:01
he was like do you mind if Tom Davis uh
00:57:03
watches it and works with you on it
00:57:05
that's what he was getting at like
00:57:07
someone watching he loves the writer
00:57:09
with the comedian you know well because
00:57:12
the audience should know that you're on
00:57:14
stage doing it and if you wrote it
00:57:15
someone has to be in the booth kind of
00:57:17
directing and saying right which is hard
00:57:19
because it's really your eyes and ears
00:57:21
what you would want so they're just
00:57:23
trying to oh they need someone more
00:57:24
experienced yeah that's really what it
00:57:28
was too was like I think he just wanted
00:57:30
to know like you know if I I talk to
00:57:33
anybody about the sketch that I might
00:57:35
want to have them come and help me with
00:57:37
it and if not then he was going to sign
00:57:39
somebody yeah and I remember one time
00:57:42
Tom Davis was like you know he was like
00:57:44
who wants to help him so I was like uh
00:57:47
who wants to help Timmy with this sketch
00:57:49
and Tom is like I'll do it I'll do it
00:57:51
that burnout
00:57:54
um what about one time Lauren brought me
00:57:56
in and he goes David who helped you read
00:57:57
the cue cards and I go I read them
00:58:01
that's all Dana the thing he goes I
00:58:05
guess he can read Franken could you do
00:58:09
something with Casper cupcake because I
00:58:11
don't know if it's gonna happen Casper
00:58:13
the unlikable cupcake cupcake I know
00:58:16
you're the alabaster assassin and it's a
00:58:18
wonderful thing but could you please
00:58:20
Marcy
00:58:22
by the way I have to give Timmy it's
00:58:24
hard to write a sketch and uh maybe
00:58:26
because you're in Second City you're
00:58:28
better at it but it took me my I wrote a
00:58:31
sketch for Lovitz
00:58:32
called the puffer fish where he got he
00:58:34
was a scientist but he got mad he turned
00:58:36
into a puffer fishy pop out you know for
00:58:39
John and it was and he goes yeah write
00:58:41
it you know because I was like it was
00:58:43
like my first four
00:58:45
uh shows before we went to summer I got
00:58:47
I got picked up for four and then it was
00:58:49
over just to see if I had any game which
00:58:51
we found out I did not and so I go
00:58:53
Johnny goes that's a great idea and I go
00:58:56
it is it wasn't that good he goes right
00:58:58
he gave me no help because I probably
00:59:01
had seven sets it was probably 28 pages
00:59:03
and uh reads are there I think Shoemaker
00:59:07
went is this your piece of [ __ ] I go
00:59:08
yeah and he goes can we chop it down to
00:59:11
about 20 I mean I don't know I'm like
00:59:14
and he goes I think there's too many
00:59:15
sets I'm like well if anyone would tell
00:59:18
me anything
00:59:20
all I'm used to is writing stand up so I
00:59:23
don't know what I'm doing wrong and they
00:59:24
go well there's too much to fix here but
00:59:27
good luck with it it's a hopeless cause
00:59:30
but we appreciate that you put pen to
00:59:32
paper oh and Dennis goes spot if if is
00:59:36
spudley if you and Schneider don't get
00:59:38
any on in these four shows I think it's
00:59:40
curtains okay thanks I mean they'll send
00:59:42
you they'll send you back on a Greyhound
00:59:44
out of here okay you're not even gonna
00:59:46
be okay write me some update jokes I
00:59:49
mean get off your ass you got nothing in
00:59:51
the show maybe slip them under my door
00:59:53
if you don't want to talk to me
00:59:55
all right one time I told Dennis I had
00:59:58
turned down this commercial for a lot of
01:00:00
money Christ sakes currently this
01:00:02
business will eat you up and spit you
01:00:04
out nobody cares okay it's all about
01:00:08
securing rectangular greenbacks he he
01:00:13
was right and I regretted not doing that
01:00:16
commercial you'd get the new writers
01:00:18
write me some update jokes before you
01:00:19
get two in the mix here I remember my my
01:00:23
uh my first week on this show to uh
01:00:26
watching Dennis Miller in the rewrite
01:00:28
room on a Thursday night come back to
01:00:31
the room so funny [ __ ] here everybody
01:00:34
uh [ __ ] has new [ __ ] hole Yeah a
01:00:39
Solaris room yes an insult to every
01:00:42
[ __ ] writer and actor that was in the
01:00:45
room he spared me too because he I think
01:00:47
he even went and you're new I'm not
01:00:49
gonna [ __ ] uh I'll give you a pass
01:00:50
today to kid or something I know one
01:00:53
time you guys you guys saw him do that
01:00:55
once and everyone was laughing so hard I
01:00:57
don't I'm farly almost just fell down
01:00:59
they're not buying this shine thing okay
01:01:03
Chrissy you know that guy falls down
01:01:06
anything else Rock you're no you're no
01:01:08
Eddie did he say to Chris Rock You Know
01:01:10
Eddie
01:01:11
he goes right I think he goes Rock
01:01:14
you're the angry black guy Meadows
01:01:16
you're not even angry you're just a
01:01:18
black guy you're the nice one where's
01:01:20
that gonna get you then he goes Spain
01:01:22
nothing he looks around Schneider cop
01:01:25
machine now it's over your family
01:01:27
they're not fine
01:01:29
whatever this guy sakes tell some jokes
01:01:32
what are you doing up there all right
01:01:34
you're embarrassing your family okay we
01:01:38
all embarrassed we all get them taken
01:01:40
down you're embarrassing your entire
01:01:42
neighborhood okay
01:01:45
and then he would walk out of the room
01:01:47
man yeah because he didn't have to be at
01:01:49
the meeting he didn't have his mouth he
01:01:50
just spray and he'd be like in a suit
01:01:52
you know the cat and I are gonna go
01:01:54
catch uh The King and I downtown at the
01:01:56
Orpheum
01:01:57
and his hair was all squat we're all
01:02:00
sweaty and greased up we got Staples in
01:02:02
our head we got State till midnight do
01:02:05
the read through he's gonna hit or so
01:02:07
with Al Baldwin yeah Christ sex the
01:02:10
risotto curvy to dive for oh wait I had
01:02:13
a question for [ __ ] Timmy well I want
01:02:15
to get to a lot of things okay like if
01:02:18
you on the new SNL you were there longer
01:02:20
than me but obviously it's evolving but
01:02:24
you played someone like Erica Badu at
01:02:26
suddenly now would you present day be
01:02:30
able to play a female
01:02:34
oh that's a good question man
01:02:36
they definitely do women playing men
01:02:38
they do women playing men all the time
01:02:40
now
01:02:41
yeah oh yeah I think
01:02:44
I think if it was a I don't think I
01:02:46
would do it if it's an impression I
01:02:48
think if it was a character like me just
01:02:51
being this a woman you know what I mean
01:02:53
lady
01:03:02
you know what I mean like what
01:03:05
what do people I don't know the rules
01:03:07
yeah it's just yeah we're like
01:03:10
I just started back doing stand up like
01:03:12
a few weeks ago man and I'm telling you
01:03:15
it's been fun but it's just been like
01:03:17
what the [ __ ] like
01:03:19
myself before I say things yeah it's
01:03:22
scary you say the wrong thing it's over
01:03:24
right there's so many big words and
01:03:27
little words for everybody and figures
01:03:29
of speech you don't know if that's gonna
01:03:32
be a problem you know I mean even in
01:03:35
2015 when I look back what I was doing
01:03:37
I'm doing Chinese accents I'm doing all
01:03:40
kinds I've just distilled it now I can
01:03:43
do Russian
01:03:44
and I could do French British but that's
01:03:46
about it you know I just had the table
01:03:48
you know I was doing Indian accents I
01:03:51
was doing the cook by cardiologist
01:03:54
that stuff and I just think I'm killing
01:03:57
you know I mean there were no rules and
01:03:58
then it just shifted so I lost 70 of my
01:04:02
act in 45 days but have you seen that
01:04:05
movies uh the only bad guys allowed now
01:04:07
are Russians or Russians a made-up
01:04:10
Russian country or aliens aliens that's
01:04:13
why superhero movies do what oh this
01:04:15
crazy planet of Asians Asian aliens
01:04:20
what do you want what what I want to do
01:04:24
to you is I want to kill you see that is
01:04:26
just a general accent right General it's
01:04:29
Eastern European it could be Romania
01:04:31
what do you want to kill you now with
01:04:33
the gun and you are good luck good luck
01:04:35
you don't even have to be good at the
01:04:37
accident no just something like this
01:04:39
it's better if you're not they can't pin
01:04:42
it anywhere yeah right I'm going to will
01:04:45
kill you someday I will kill you but not
01:04:47
now because I want you to think about me
01:04:50
putting bullet in your head at some
01:04:52
point in future you hear footsteps you
01:04:55
look outside maybe you have snow cone
01:04:57
you one eye you're blind or you come
01:05:00
from other side lights out but I love
01:05:03
you it's a real snow cone so I want to
01:05:06
get to Tim's uh this is a Dana you kill
01:05:09
me man uh well you're making me funnier
01:05:12
today Tim because you're such a great
01:05:14
audience he's a good sometimes these
01:05:16
podcasts are pretty pretty Grim we've
01:05:18
done a few of them they get pretty Grim
01:05:20
I'll tell you that much
01:05:24
[Music]
01:05:26
so Tim throughout the your years on SNL
01:05:29
he does Cone Heads It's Pat wins world
01:05:31
two yeah so that you're in the movies uh
01:05:34
you do Bench Warmers which is one of
01:05:37
those fun and Mean Girls you are
01:05:40
hysterical and that's the principal
01:05:42
and then I don't want to jump over
01:05:44
anything but then of course you have
01:05:45
this uh one of the few sketches that
01:05:48
becomes a feature film
01:05:50
and what I notice your Evolution or I
01:05:54
left the show or maybe it hosted I came
01:05:56
back or I watched it and I saw you on
01:05:59
ladies man I don't know which episode it
01:06:02
was but I just saw this like
01:06:04
like the confidence and the and the
01:06:07
audience loving you it just went like
01:06:09
that just snapped I mean it went to
01:06:11
another level I was like whoa so what
01:06:14
how did that evolve and when did you go
01:06:16
I'm on to a killer a killer reoccurring
01:06:20
character which is so fun on SNL and who
01:06:23
brings up a movie
01:06:25
I
01:06:27
um
01:06:29
I did I mean I think I got more
01:06:31
comfortable naturally as as the seasons
01:06:33
went on me me too by the season
01:06:36
where David and I and Normie were still
01:06:41
there you know that year yeah I think
01:06:45
that yeah that like crossover here five
01:06:48
six like that 95 yeah why six yeah that
01:06:52
was a year that I kind of felt like okay
01:06:56
I I already know how to show words I
01:06:59
know how to write
01:07:00
I just got to be more comfortable and
01:07:02
have more fun on camera I mean I just
01:07:04
started to relax really and then ladies
01:07:07
man just it was just a
01:07:09
that was an easy character for me to to
01:07:13
to do because I had been doing it for a
01:07:15
long time but I didn't tell people about
01:07:17
it because I used to do it to make fake
01:07:20
phone phone calls I used to use it as a
01:07:23
voice you know and so
01:07:26
I told a couple of writers
01:07:29
um about it and they
01:07:32
came up with the ladies man idea and and
01:07:35
they would ask me questions and and I
01:07:37
would just answer you doing that voice
01:07:39
about you know relationship questions or
01:07:42
problems or whatever
01:07:44
and then it just clicked man I was like
01:07:46
even when I do it now if I feel like
01:07:48
doing it if people talk to me or in
01:07:51
interviews like it is like you know like
01:07:53
with any of the things you do is like
01:07:54
you just know that person you know how
01:07:56
the character talks you know what it
01:07:58
would say it's musical it it the the the
01:08:01
way I'd say Courvoisier it's it's very
01:08:03
hypnotic and musical yeah you know and
01:08:06
and so it was operating on a lot of
01:08:08
different levels as far as just
01:08:10
entertainment and funny
01:08:12
and so it it the minute we did it
01:08:16
we knew
01:08:18
that people liked it I mean it got
01:08:21
laughs and then just we got letters it
01:08:23
was like the only time I really got like
01:08:25
you know like a lot of fan mail
01:08:27
basically go by that mailbox yeah yeah
01:08:30
and so that was Dana had a lot of me
01:08:32
liked it
01:08:33
um and then the whole thing of the movie
01:08:35
came up with Lauren Lauren brought it
01:08:38
brought up assis uh me and uh uh
01:08:43
no I wrote it with
01:08:47
um Harbor steel who is uh and I'm Dennis
01:08:52
mcnicholas
01:08:54
um and so they created the character and
01:08:58
then yeah Lauren asks if we'd be
01:09:01
interested in writing a script first of
01:09:03
all that was it he was like do you think
01:09:05
you can make this into a movie and
01:09:08
the three of us were like not really you
01:09:11
know I mean
01:09:12
it's funny we think that it would be fun
01:09:14
but we we were like we didn't think it
01:09:15
was like a big enough hit that we would
01:09:17
make them it should be a movie you know
01:09:18
what I'm saying yeah like just
01:09:20
business-wise we were like well and then
01:09:23
he told us to think it over and then the
01:09:26
three of us talked about it
01:09:28
and we started just coming up with like
01:09:30
what if we did this we haven't told a
01:09:31
backstory we have been told what his
01:09:34
life is like or what his work life is
01:09:36
like or put him on an adventure or
01:09:39
anything like that
01:09:40
and then we said yeah okay we'll try it
01:09:43
and then we wrote a script we had to
01:09:46
read through
01:09:47
uh they liked it and then they were like
01:09:50
we'll give you the minimum amount of
01:09:52
money to make it uh
01:09:55
and then was it Paramount it was
01:09:58
Paramount yeah yeah be Lauren Steele
01:10:00
yeah
01:10:01
Lauren had a deal apparently so
01:10:04
yeah so I mean
01:10:05
that was how it was and it was really a
01:10:10
great experience you know it
01:10:12
I I don't regret that movie at all like
01:10:15
people still to this day
01:10:17
know the character they know the movie
01:10:19
like when I'm traveling or whatever
01:10:22
um and people like it I mean people
01:10:24
nobody ever is like yeah I think that
01:10:27
character was disgusting or whatever you
01:10:29
know and it just travels you know it
01:10:32
just travels around you know what the
01:10:34
thing is
01:10:35
yeah Dana like I was saying to you about
01:10:37
the the uh Biden impression is that it's
01:10:40
something that people can do like you
01:10:42
gave them a hook yeah right and ladies
01:10:44
made in the same way like people know it
01:10:46
and it gives them a hook into a way
01:10:49
to talk or to do the character that's
01:10:51
like the funnest thing to get on SNL if
01:10:53
you get one of those uh rhythmic
01:10:55
catchphrase this made me laugh to me and
01:10:57
I don't know where this came from but it
01:10:59
was on the Wikipedia page about Leon
01:11:00
Phelps The Ladies Man and it said the
01:11:03
describing the character he believed he
01:11:06
was the living definition of what women
01:11:09
search for in a man and that's the
01:11:12
classic cocky idiot like he was so
01:11:14
[ __ ] confident that no woman could
01:11:18
ever resist him and the confidence he
01:11:20
had is always really fun to watch just a
01:11:23
crazy confident character who is kind of
01:11:25
Clueless in a way about its own so the
01:11:29
character yeah I can see that being kind
01:11:31
of have a following as people see it
01:11:33
over time yeah you know you know that
01:11:36
and that that attitude
01:11:39
is a lot I I would like say I I like
01:11:43
stove from you know or like
01:11:45
I think of Bill Murray and doing uh
01:11:48
cavity Shack like that attitude of like
01:11:51
he's Superior to everybody in the movie
01:11:54
yes he's the smartest guy in the movie
01:11:57
yeah I know
01:11:58
and so when he's his you trust his
01:12:02
ripping you know you know it's going to
01:12:04
get you somewhere
01:12:06
um and I feel I I kind of have that
01:12:08
attitude when I'm doing Leon Phelps like
01:12:11
he's the smartest dude in the room can't
01:12:14
make any mistakes doesn't he doesn't
01:12:17
know if he's offending you doesn't care
01:12:19
if he's offending you that's why you
01:12:21
know it's so much fun to play a
01:12:23
character like that because it's hard to
01:12:24
go through life actually like that you
01:12:27
know yes but uh um one thing that I I
01:12:30
don't know this sort of dovetails but I
01:12:32
remember we were doing a benefit for
01:12:34
Robert Smiggle for autism
01:12:36
and just kind of sharing a dressing room
01:12:38
and we just got to start talking about
01:12:40
stand up as a baseline for a career like
01:12:43
and I always tell everyone I told love
01:12:45
it's anybody who's uh Second City improv
01:12:47
player who's funny who wants to put
01:12:50
together an act they have all the tools
01:12:51
to do it because they are if you could
01:12:53
score an SNL you could do it so I don't
01:12:55
know if you began but then you you
01:12:57
develop
01:12:58
yourself as a stand-up comic and you've
01:13:01
been doing it pretty consistently
01:13:03
here and there we did that crazy show in
01:13:06
Laughlin Nevada
01:13:09
oh man just imagine just as far as the
01:13:12
circumcision there's so that's a that's
01:13:13
a movie in itself but it's David it's
01:13:16
five in the afternoon or something in an
01:13:19
empty stadium with high high winds and
01:13:23
bright sun in your face
01:13:24
outside always in daytime is a killer
01:13:28
yeah it may have been dust but it last
01:13:30
just goes straight up in the air yeah
01:13:32
and when there's bright out you don't
01:13:34
even look any you look anywhere but the
01:13:36
stage and I hate seeing the people
01:13:38
because as many laughs as you get you
01:13:40
always connect eyes with someone going
01:13:42
yeah you're like are you even listening
01:13:46
to what and you think you're killing and
01:13:48
you always find someone that goes oh no
01:13:50
you're not for me I all in my head Tim
01:13:53
is over in the in the uh on the wings
01:13:57
and I'm up there I'm going I am so
01:14:00
awkward I'm so bad right now I don't
01:14:02
even care this is the worst set I've
01:14:04
ever done and I'd look over and I see
01:14:05
Tim
01:14:06
and uh it just was it kept thinking what
01:14:08
does he think
01:14:10
this is I don't want a bomb in front of
01:14:12
this SNL guys
01:14:15
knows how to do this but it was just one
01:14:18
of those nights you just get to check
01:14:20
and we walked away
01:14:22
yeah you gave me a ride back to the city
01:14:24
too yeah I love we had a great time yeah
01:14:28
because we don't get to spend that much
01:14:30
time together where it's like we had a
01:14:32
couple hours to just talk and stuff and
01:14:34
chill you know so that was that was the
01:14:36
highlight of that for me oh oh totally I
01:14:39
was so thrilled that you you took the
01:14:40
ride with me because I I love comedians
01:14:42
I love talking to them and part of the
01:14:44
reason
01:14:44
we're doing this is because too many
01:14:47
years go by because we're all just busy
01:14:50
just doing [ __ ] and you never hang out
01:14:52
even if you went to a dinner at a
01:14:54
restaurant they're playing loud music
01:14:56
it's still you you know you just want
01:14:58
like I know a lot more about you right
01:15:00
now than I did and I knew a lot man I
01:15:03
knew a lot
01:15:04
Marcy uh Marcy Klein would love to have
01:15:08
her as a guest
01:15:09
um so you you've just gone on your
01:15:11
resume is huge you you work you're
01:15:14
you're doing stuff I always see your
01:15:15
name popping up you're doing this series
01:15:16
you're doing this you're doing that so
01:15:18
how are you feeling now just in the just
01:15:21
doing them coming back to stand up now
01:15:25
um yeah I'm just coming back to doing it
01:15:27
now um I've done a couple gigs some
01:15:29
would love it we've got it in uh Katan
01:15:33
and uh Mitchell
01:15:36
yeah we we did a tour a few years ago
01:15:39
with spade and Rob and uh Sandler took
01:15:43
us out which was really fun yeah I could
01:15:46
imagine highlight plan for that crowd
01:15:49
highlights understatement I also was and
01:15:54
it was fun to see every I mean everybody
01:15:55
is so good and I I was the least
01:16:00
experienced of everybody on that tour so
01:16:03
it was really fun for me to like
01:16:06
I came out first like after Schneider
01:16:08
you know introduced the gig and seeing
01:16:11
it and so it was you know I'd come out
01:16:14
and I had a lot of um Goodwill from the
01:16:17
audience you know so I feel like oh yeah
01:16:19
and then they were excited yeah man it
01:16:23
was just so much fun to like watch
01:16:24
everybody and you know
01:16:27
rest in peace Norm I enjoyed watching
01:16:31
him just do his [ __ ] every night he
01:16:34
always did something different he was
01:16:37
one one of a kind and so brilliant yeah
01:16:39
you know it it does seem that it comes
01:16:42
down to at least for me like it took me
01:16:44
I'd say 80 80 to 100 shows to get where
01:16:47
you were talking about relaxed having
01:16:49
fun in a situation that should you
01:16:51
shouldn't be allowed to do that and live
01:16:53
performance and stand up too it's so
01:16:55
much
01:16:56
uh just internally enjoying it and being
01:16:59
relaxed and not needy and also just
01:17:02
Clarity uh you know I've been doing some
01:17:04
open mics with my kids and stuff and
01:17:06
most of them mikers they just the
01:17:07
audience just misses it like what are
01:17:09
you trying to say so just the clarity of
01:17:11
the setup and then actually they can see
01:17:13
you're enjoying yourself but the main
01:17:14
thing is you know try not to try is very
01:17:16
difficult but once you get confident
01:17:18
doing it then it becomes electrifyingly
01:17:21
fun when you're kind of like yeah I got
01:17:24
this folks you know I noticed the SNL
01:17:27
thing but let me ask you guys this you
01:17:28
can cut it out if you want but like when
01:17:30
you how do you how do you get into like
01:17:34
I know writing new material
01:17:37
like do you take ideas that you have and
01:17:41
then just expand on them on stage
01:17:44
or do you like completely think out the
01:17:46
idea before you get on stage and do it
01:17:49
David I'll let you take that one
01:17:52
um I do I take I think what I want to
01:17:57
say and I hope I have enough of a germ
01:18:00
and maybe an out
01:18:02
but it's always undercooked and then I
01:18:05
do it and then if I and then I trim out
01:18:08
the fat sometimes I'll tape it we type
01:18:10
it out and then I'll I'll look at it and
01:18:13
go I don't need that I don't need that
01:18:14
and then it gets a little tighter and
01:18:17
once it actually gets into my act on a
01:18:19
consistent basis I try to rip on it but
01:18:22
I sort of have to get it
01:18:24
to memorize the way it works and then I
01:18:27
can screw around with it but but finding
01:18:30
it is tough and you almost have to tape
01:18:32
because you say one thing you like and
01:18:35
the rest of my ACT I'm trying to
01:18:36
remember that one line
01:18:37
to remember and I just if I don't tape
01:18:40
it or anything and I hate listening to
01:18:42
myself so it's a real horrible yeah the
01:18:44
only thing I could add to that is what I
01:18:46
told Levitz is just don't be in a hurry
01:18:48
to get through a bit like say you have a
01:18:50
bit now that works whatever the topic
01:18:52
there's always more and just stay there
01:18:55
you know I always try to remind myself
01:18:57
sometimes don't be in a hurry just stay
01:18:59
there and the other thing I like to do
01:19:01
is find a 20-seater
01:19:02
there I don't know what the number is
01:19:04
but I'd say 20-seater and then just
01:19:07
bring up your yellow pad with just ideas
01:19:11
you've had and tell the audience you're
01:19:13
doing that I call it podcast here's an
01:19:15
idea I had I don't even know if this is
01:19:17
funny and then you're automatically
01:19:19
they're on your side that seems to be a
01:19:21
really good way to develop material once
01:19:23
you're out there in front of a packed
01:19:24
house and everything it's way too late
01:19:26
something about a 20-seater uh where you
01:19:29
just got the yellow pad they know you're
01:19:31
just [ __ ] around
01:19:32
um you know I think it lines all the
01:19:34
time and then George Carlin always said
01:19:36
write everything down because writing
01:19:38
happens when you're when you're going to
01:19:40
a movie or you're hanging out or you're
01:19:42
having it's not when you're trying to
01:19:43
just write every single tiny thing down
01:19:45
uh that would be the method I use I'm
01:19:48
sure you use variations of what David
01:19:50
and I just said yeah I do that too I
01:19:52
like I'll write notes down and then I'd
01:19:55
go back and look at it and think about
01:19:56
well what was the original thought that
01:19:58
made me laugh that I wrote this down
01:20:00
yeah
01:20:01
um and the thing I've been doing now
01:20:03
like I'm gonna I'm in Chicago so I'm
01:20:05
gonna try to do some open mics tonight
01:20:07
I'm gonna do Zanies tomorrow
01:20:10
uh what I've been trying to do is like
01:20:13
uh Colin gave me this advice which is
01:20:15
couching the new [ __ ] between two bits
01:20:18
that I already know works yeah and then
01:20:21
like you were saying Dana like give
01:20:23
yourself time in that bit like okay
01:20:26
here's the new thing I'm working on
01:20:28
it's probably gonna die I don't know
01:20:31
what what it is but even if it fails and
01:20:33
I got this other thing yeah that'll give
01:20:36
me back you could look at uh Chappelle
01:20:38
uh even Chappelle five years ago or
01:20:41
whatever he was never in a hurry you
01:20:44
know to get through things and when
01:20:46
you're young and kind of scared you just
01:20:48
want to roll right through it as I've
01:20:49
gotten older and more confident I'm just
01:20:51
going to sit with this idea now and not
01:20:54
when the the I call it the second voice
01:20:56
it's giving you a real time report card
01:20:59
when that just shut that up and it's all
01:21:02
tied into the same thing having fun and
01:21:04
confidence I'd say confidence in where
01:21:07
it comes from how it happens is somewhat
01:21:10
mysterious but when you have it the idea
01:21:12
is I'm Ted Meadows get the [ __ ] out of
01:21:15
my way it goes back to the Detroit guy
01:21:17
I'm coming on stage for you
01:21:20
[ __ ] and guess what I'm the
01:21:22
[ __ ] I'm [ __ ] funny and I'm really
01:21:25
smart I may be
01:21:28
kind of too handsome for a stand-up
01:21:30
don't let that get in your way you
01:21:33
[ __ ] but that that's the thing
01:21:35
tonight when you go just I'm Tim Meadows
01:21:37
man yeah yeah yeah no Dana you're the
01:21:41
best man thanks David thank you Timmy
01:21:43
it's great talking to you I miss you I
01:21:46
will see you soon and thanks for
01:21:48
blabbing with us
01:21:50
hey what's up flies what's up please
01:21:52
what's up people that listen we want to
01:21:54
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01:21:55
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01:22:06
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waffles okay
01:22:16
I can't step foot in Bulgaria we're too
01:22:19
big okay big fan of the podcast question
01:22:22
is uh both of you what do you consider
01:22:26
to be the others most under and
01:22:27
overrated impression that's from Robin
01:22:30
ritzen
01:22:32
uh I'd say you're most underrated is
01:22:35
Michael J fox from casualties of War oh
01:22:38
yeah that's your most underrated
01:22:42
yeah I'm not a big impression guy and so
01:22:45
this question is probably more for you
01:22:48
but Michael J fox I had a lot of pride
01:22:50
in and I think it helped me get on SNL
01:22:52
uh I I trick them into thinking I was
01:22:55
like Rich Little because I had one
01:22:57
impression I also did Tom Petty but on
01:23:00
the show you you get a lot of um
01:23:03
you get assigned your Dave Turner from
01:23:06
Soul Asylum I did Kurt Cobain did Brad
01:23:09
Pitt there's a bunch of those where you
01:23:10
get assigned every week so they're not
01:23:12
that great uh but they're just more
01:23:14
looks you know and then Dana would get
01:23:17
really into him so if I said Dana's I
01:23:19
would say
01:23:21
uh I I like uh pretty much all his I
01:23:24
don't think any of them are really
01:23:25
overrated I I do like when you do a Ross
01:23:28
Perot or a George Bush where
01:23:31
it's something I don't even know if they
01:23:33
really said maybe they said it once and
01:23:35
you run with it like there's a Ross Pro
01:23:38
where you go let me tell you one time
01:23:40
what does he say something I can't can I
01:23:42
finish one time that's like a baby brown
01:23:46
that's right so maybe
01:23:49
you know when I was just doing a walk-in
01:23:53
impression for Dana a little bit ago I
01:23:55
said uh I talk about a mouse and I go
01:23:57
he's smart the smart you know so if you
01:24:00
can find one little tiny thing that
01:24:02
sounds like him that's fun but Dana's
01:24:05
are all underrated and they're all good
01:24:07
and he finds these little one lines and
01:24:09
little hooks so that's the hard part
01:24:11
even if Trump or any of these guys
01:24:12
didn't say that or not gonna do it kind
01:24:15
of got crazy with George Bush uh it's
01:24:19
such a great hook and it sounds like the
01:24:21
person that the actual person almost
01:24:23
needs to say those things now to sound
01:24:26
like them because it's so famous it's
01:24:28
more famous than the actual person yeah
01:24:30
and there's two ways to look at an
01:24:32
impression like abject accuracy like oh
01:24:34
my God it's like a tape recorder that's
01:24:36
perfect and then there's something
01:24:38
that's more of an abstraction and funny
01:24:40
and takes Liberties and so uh maybe I
01:24:43
just get bored but I do like to extend
01:24:45
them and make them
01:24:46
into one sound like Trump well that's
01:24:49
good that's why it works yeah but that's
01:24:51
how it works especially on SNL because
01:24:53
crowds are waiting for something and if
01:24:56
you do just a perfect impression it
01:24:58
doesn't always pay off I think it's
01:25:00
always nice when a host comes in and
01:25:01
they have something Secret in their grab
01:25:03
bag
01:25:03
and they can do an impression so you
01:25:05
write a whole sketch around it when they
01:25:06
get to theirs it's always shocking they
01:25:08
can do one yeah and it gets a big uh
01:25:11
Applause it still is a is it's almost
01:25:13
like magic to me though when someone
01:25:15
like Frank Caliendo can sound exactly
01:25:18
like Morgan Freeman like eerily so I
01:25:21
love impressions of all stripes
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