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oh by the way I'm at the Venetian with
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Nikki Glazer if anyone's interested I'm
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I'm there again uh end of September and
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I'm there in November so if you want to
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beep bop over that click a few links and
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buy I will be at Leonardo's Pizza Place
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in Sherman Oaks next Friday okay that's
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a noon show I'm going to go to Knott's
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Berry's Farm uh yeah that'll be a noon
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show I'm going to be at Knott's Berry's
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Farm on the water slide ride on August
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letting people on the ride August 19th
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well yeah I do sometimes Moonlight oh
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that's the carnival stuff I do yeah it's
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another time I will be doing the
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organizing the [ __ ] tossing Exposition
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in Loveland Laughlin Nevada on the
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riverboat casino
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I would be face down in a pile of my own
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Goose early Sunday morning your own goo
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yeah face down I own goo that's what I
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tell people no I'm not going to drink
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that much how was the drinking last
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night great I woke up face down in a
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pile of my own goo that doesn't sound
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good you know what David Tony flash
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observation yes no one has ever woken up
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and said damn I forgot to do Shooters
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last night
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a lesson for you hard drinkers no one's
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ever woken up going I should have
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dranken more yeah dranken David Tony
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Hawk is a friend of yours
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that's all David can I just say this
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before we start Tony Hawk will right
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we'll cut this we started we'll cut it
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no whatever David because I was
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mentioning used to someone recently
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who'd seen Police Academy go like he was
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a national class skateboard that's what
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they said or a really really good
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schedule I was yep
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that's what they said I hope that's out
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there it's funny you were really good
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but brings us to our person we want to
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introduce well Tony is a freak of nature
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at skating I was blessed to be in a
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movie with him because I I'm in Arizona
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like what they call it a beater it's a
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guy that just pretends to be like a
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surfer or skater but I was kind of good
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medium but Tony they were so good I read
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about these guys suddenly they're on the
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movie with me and that was Police
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Academy for stayed in touch with them he
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did that video game he talks about that
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that blew him up he still skates he
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still gets hurt he sells neck trouble
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like I do taking those Falls so many
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times I don't know how he still does it
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but unbelievable and he's still tough as
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[ __ ] it's a hard job to be Pro Skater he
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still gets in and gets dirty he's a he's
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competitive I mean he is driven he
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doesn't uh I think he sees the new guys
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and goes [ __ ] this like I'm still good
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he competes with himself he just still
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wants to grab but he will break down
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this is one of my favorite parts of this
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podcast what it's like to go up those
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giant ramps and you're going upside down
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and you what you're thinking what are
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you thinking where you have to grab how
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do you not get killed by doing that I I
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admire Daredevils I mean I once jumped
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off a six foot thing into a lake and I
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never did it again I never did it again
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I never did it again let me tell you
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when you do those ramps when you're up
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there doing half pipes in the middle of
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the trick
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it's about a second and away when you're
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doing your next trick so once you
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realize you've completed it and you're
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starting to land you have to think where
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do I go for the next trick and then how
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do I get my weight shifted then you go
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up and then you go oh this one this one
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I have to land here because I have to go
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to the corner and jump the [ __ ] Gap
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it's it's so crazy and they do eight ten
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tricks in a row and I can't believe the
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thinking that goes on you got to do it
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so many times we're going to talk all
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about his his career as uh
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is he the goat is he kind of the goat I
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think he's no time of skateboarding
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Tiger Woods or scratchy there's some
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that are sort of nobody argues and
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that's his real name I understand
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because it is kind of the coolest name
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if you're trying to Brand things for
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like eighth grade kids Tony Hawk and he
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incredibly nice guy really really smart
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about anything to do with flying around
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on a skateboard and as an entrepreneur
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he is a brand he's a global brand and he
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had just done his first thing on SNL
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when we talked to him yes tied it all
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together news on
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seven seconds therefore he's part of our
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podcast sorry now you're on it's called
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slim connections episode you [ __ ] up
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you're on our show now if you've heard
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of Lauren Michaels you qualify as a
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guest apply now
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if you've ever said the word Saturday
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and live in the same day you can be on
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fire what these three words mean you're
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gonna be a guest
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[Music]
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this is a bit off subject but because
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I'm a great guy and I have great guy
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syndrome I think for for actresses I
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don't think it's fair that every article
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they're like Mimi Rogers 67. they always
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put their name and then their age and I
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do not fail to do that with men they do
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it for men too but I think it's mostly
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women and that's when I notice it and I
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go why does that matter and that should
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be eradicated because it doesn't matter
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you can look it up if you want to know
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right I think they'll eradicate it if we
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become anything I mean I can't remember
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they're still doing that when they don't
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do anything else it's like that one
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seems a little more let's put a let's
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put a billboard and say stop putting the
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ages of women
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I got a lot of time in life especially
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in the ax world like if you're thinking
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of hiring someone that's just in the
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back your head you go oh that's the
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right age or oh no that feel whatever
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just it sends a weird message
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immediately and it doesn't need to be an
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article and I know anyway take it easy
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thank you you're free to look at my age
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uh he's uh you know I I the age thing
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one is always gives a sense of humor
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about it and I have a dermatologist
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who's I think he's like 85. I said how
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old are you guys I'm 106. that's a
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standard answer that's a good way to say
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it just to say it he's a guy check my
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skin and every and he had a woman with a
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clipboard and kept going age related
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he's got a microscope age related I mean
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you have to say age related can I have
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something age related dude I've done
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that on this podcast before
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Dick Tony we might not get to you but
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that's fine I listen to the show anyway
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so I'm just here fast you know how it
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works
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so many questions for you it's gonna
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it's gonna be a two-parter so I go to
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this uh high-end restaurant koi and um
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koi which is basically sponsored by us
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72. back in the day yeah they moved it
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when people were like hovering with oh
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yeah that's right a good place and then
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catch took them uh this guy was there
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and he goes hey this is my buddy he's a
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plastic surgeon he works in town and and
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he's already looking at me and I was of
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course a little buzzed naturally because
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it was night time so I had a little
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louder
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so so I I get on there and I go and I'm
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just standing at the table so I go the
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worst question what would you do to me
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and he like slowly looks at me like
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RoboCop I go no no no and he goes well
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and I go no and he goes listen here's
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he's got a lot of bullets if you want
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just the top nine things that are like
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no-brainers like these are things that
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are not what do you saying tuck no Dana
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I'm not gonna say because I want to go
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oh yeah yeah
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because uh we would disagree no no no
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you can't you have to just you have to
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roll with it you just get nice work good
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work that's the key good work so people
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just don't know you got work well Tony
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let's see I'm looking at you Tony and I
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are about this when is that happening
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we're about the same age can you do you
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have that guy's number no this guy
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honestly he was like listen I'll do it
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on the house
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by noon tomorrow
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Cutters what like to cut I'll tell you
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that face guys don't go you don't need
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anything they go we can get in there dig
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around a little bit this is all natural
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dear since Eisenhower's first
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Administration I won't give my age but
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I'll just say I was on this Earth with
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these hands and these feet since the mid
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50s voting for Calvin Coolidge look how
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good I look now Tony let's talk about it
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all right there's so many places to ask
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but I want to know just because I was
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talking about Vicodin and how I only get
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plastic surgery for Vicodin I don't need
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it I don't need it I had a crazy surgery
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I took a Vicodin and hated it I'd like
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to Advil much better hey Advil if you're
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listening I know I like when the doctor
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goes so you broke your leg you'll want
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to really pump the Advil the what yeah
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yeah
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funny you say that because I broke my
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leg in March a year ago tomorrow
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yeah this is actually a good story
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where's the celebration no no can I get
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details on that no this is a good story
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because I know what I did I was laying
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there on my ramp with my leg was it the
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femur or the femur yeah what was the
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trick me twist
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were you by yourself I was not but my
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friend especially my good friend Kevin
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came over about five minutes later with
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two Advil
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Jesus Christ I'll never forget that well
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that all right thanks I might do an
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opioid at that point you know but so was
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it was it particularly scary it seems
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like a lot of times people get hurt when
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it's like perfunctory but it was not
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zoned in as much dude your [ __ ]
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thoughts it was a trick that I have done
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tens of thousands of times okay and I uh
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didn't have enough speed going into it
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and I knew that full well but I was
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always able to figure that out adjust
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for it in the air and I guess at age 54
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that's the time when you can no longer
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adjust for it so easily and next thing I
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know I'm just sliding through the flap
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part of my ramp with my leg I could feel
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it just dangling oh and I looked up at
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another friend of mine I go I broke my
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leg and he's like what and then I
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grabbed it and I put it
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instinctually I can't believe what I'm
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hearing but but then in that moment I
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knew like oh I'm so [ __ ] like I can't
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I can't move I can't do anything I want
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to rewind this whole moment in time but
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did you hear it as well or did it pop it
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was all very chaotic the fall so then
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you kind of really sure how it happened
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but I don't remember hearing it pop I
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just felt it disconnect wow what did
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they do with that do you have a metal
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rod down there I do yeah yeah okay how
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much did that cost
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the hard cost of it because I thankfully
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have insurance it's a lot it's more than
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a house
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really yeah boy who was insuring the
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homes in my area anyway no not where you
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guys live who do you get your insurance
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from I mean my God it was like Bobby's
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healing and Band-Aids on Ventura now
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where did you I mean Zach sag oh sag
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Blue Cross so Anthem that how long how
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is it now
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I went through eight months of recovery
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and got my get got back on my skateboard
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much too soon I watched this whole thing
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on Instagram play out and it never
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connected my bone never connected
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because I was so active on it so you you
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rushed it a little bit and it never grew
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together yeah and I and I kept thinking
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like it's gonna happen it's gonna happen
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and then at some point I realized that
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I'm just in pain all the time I mean
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like I would I would have to take a
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painkiller to get through an airport and
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I got admit this doesn't feel right for
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eight months in I went and got x-rays
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and realized the bone had moved further
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away from where it was when it because
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you were too active I was too active so
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I uh I came up here to a specialist and
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um he's the specialist in non-union
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fractures which means it never it would
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never formed a union and he put it
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straight and sent me on my way and I've
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been taking it slow I'm finally back on
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my skateboard the way I used to where
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your phone wouldn't cross Union lines
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one year later what's that
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I'm supposed to get a hip replacement at
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some point I heard that let's do it
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let's do it I heard those are very
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effective and quick healing 55 minutes
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open to close yep I I've been avoiding
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it for seven years Tony because they
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take a a saw Yes
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noisy
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I heard it's awesome but people I would
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rather go through that than my femur
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issue no no it used to be much worse but
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people do it always say I should have
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done this a long time ago I like to wait
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and kind of suffer it's part of my
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personality David's like that too but uh
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I'm inspired by your uh healing you know
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because you had 24 you know things heal
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faster yes but yeah I learned that too
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you're full court you're full fully
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around now
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um I'm I'm on my way I'm not I can't say
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I'm fully you're not gonna push it isn't
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your wife say don't push it anymore
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because you're gonna break it again
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uh she is concerned that I that I am
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getting a little too
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uh ambitious and confident with it so I
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have been taking it as slow as I can
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let's put it that way so I'm much more
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aware of it this time you're like you're
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still kind of the old Gunslinger in a
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way I mean you're the guy who invented
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the sport basically in some ways I mean
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thank you everything I read it's just
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Tony Hawk and your icon I mean right
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like not yeah everyone's sick of it no I
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appreciate it thank you what's sick of
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it you got a point there there's a lot
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of people on our podcast my wife when is
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he just gonna quit I watch this podcast
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and she she'll know enough about you
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just through our sons that did that and
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I I just for a second before we get into
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all the questions I have so the
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beginning because I was reading you know
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about your your high IQ and you were
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sort of a difficult like because I'm
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interested in what kind of brain not
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even your physical gifts becomes
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brilliant at something
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at age 12 9 12. um yeah it was honestly
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it was just being obsessive and
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determined to a point of like to a fault
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because when I was a kid I just was so I
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wanted to do certain things and I didn't
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have the the body for it or whatever but
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I was almost fired up because in
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football I couldn't do football but I
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didn't play football but baseball about
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I'm saying I could do a little bit of
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that like I was thinking what other
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sports you good at because I couldn't do
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everything and I went to skateboarding
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because
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in Arizona it was that yeah
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well skateboarding is a culture too
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which we'll talk about I mean it's more
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than sure and then once I started doing
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it I kind of fell in love with the
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misfit aspect because I never really
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felt like I fit in with my school so are
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you saying to me that are you saying
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Tony that you may not have absolute
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physical gifts like someone who could
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just Larry Bird got a basketball and
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just came up right away Eddie Van Halen
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got his son his son his brother's guitar
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sat on the bed at 8 A.M and played till
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midnight right it just spoke to him so
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when you got on the board it just spoke
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to you and you just spoke to me but but
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in no way was I a natural the natural
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you you would do that I would just do it
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but I would just do it endlessly like I
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would go I would go from school to the
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skate park
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stay there until my mom got off work at
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the she worked at a community college at
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eight or nine pm and then she'd have to
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drag me away until they turn the lights
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off did you ever annoy them because bad
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skateboarding kids are really loud like
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they're constantly falling and banging
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yeah it's not a very relaxing thing as a
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parent watching steel wheels you weren't
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that far back were you not that far back
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did you have a yellow free form with a
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split tail
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no but geez what's going on man he's
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flexing Spain I did have a band was my
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first board okay okay you like that
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thing what you like that yeah okay let
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me go back this guy's legit let me go
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back to more Larry King type stuff yeah
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I do so yeah we want to get into the
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weeds of urethane and Clay Wheels we
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have a psychological question for him my
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son had a when I was just talking on the
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way over here he had he just had a
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comment he wanted you to comment on this
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is Jump Ahead a little bit the turf war
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at a skate park between the BMXers the
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rollerbladers and the skaters even
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though it's called Escape Park so okay
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so what what uh will you comment please
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on that Mr Mr hog
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Lucky in that I was a sort of a
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generation before that was happening and
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at some point I got very lucky that I
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was still skating when rollerblading
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started to
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be on the rise because I was struggling
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to make a living at skateboarding and I
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got to be the special guest at
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rollerblade shows
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okay this is a rollerblade show but we
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got special guests skateboarder Tony
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Hawk here thank God that was paying my
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mortgage literally so I never had the
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beef I saw it I under you know I I saw
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it playing out and people were whatever
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having bad stereotypes with everything
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yeah
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um but I love everyone so you're like
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the Godfather though so if they see you
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do you win because you're a skater and
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they're like oh the [ __ ] King is I
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don't I I it's more that I grew up I
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grew up too not that grew up but but
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eventually I was in all the X Games and
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and doing all that and then we were all
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sort of Brethren the BMXers even the
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inliners
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um and the skateboarders because
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we rode the same terrain and we were all
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sort of coming up together yeah so I I
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didn't feel that Turf War like you said
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um I will say that It's Tricky when you
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have
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a lot of BMXers and a lot of
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skateboarders a skatepark because BMXers
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are silent
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and you can't see I'm coming you get hit
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you don't hear them coming yeah because
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the rubber tires and everything yeah
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yeah so that that can be an issue and so
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I I think that there's a good
00:17:50
some skate parks assign certain days for
00:17:53
bikes in certain days but I think that
00:17:55
helps it seems to me as a Layman that
00:17:58
the rollerblader has the device attached
00:18:01
to his feet the bmxer is hanging on to
00:18:04
the device right and the skateboard guy
00:18:07
has to stand on the [ __ ] thing and
00:18:09
it's like seemed much harder yeah
00:18:12
there's some apples to oranges there I
00:18:13
gotta say I guess I mean I would I was
00:18:15
such a baby that was when there were
00:18:16
steel wheels back in the 60s a really
00:18:19
Steep Hill yeah I'd sometimes just sit
00:18:21
on the [ __ ] thing we used to CAD
00:18:24
around down some hills oh yeah at the
00:18:25
wedge in Arizona
00:18:27
and then big wipeouts at the end when
00:18:29
you can always your friend and then yeah
00:18:31
we would do it down really steep grass
00:18:33
Hills just so that we knew because we
00:18:34
knew we were going to wipe out yeah and
00:18:36
then we just we might live yeah exactly
00:18:38
I actually uh wiped out at High Roller
00:18:42
I'll tell you that in a second though uh
00:18:44
uh high roller skate park can we just
00:18:46
finish off this uh young young Tony for
00:18:48
a second just your
00:18:51
um
00:18:53
you're just a quirky kid you weren't
00:18:55
natural athlete you've you've got a hold
00:18:57
of a skateboarder from from someone in
00:18:59
the neighborhood or you're not my older
00:19:00
brother older brother yeah and then it
00:19:02
just spoke to you you became possessed
00:19:04
yes and then where the zest is good yes
00:19:06
within three years of that you were
00:19:08
world class or where were at 12 it was
00:19:10
something or 14 you um it was such a
00:19:12
Quantum Leap I I started skating around
00:19:14
age 10 and then got really into it as I
00:19:19
dove into a completely
00:19:21
it took a downturn in popularity so
00:19:25
really sort of like at the time when I
00:19:27
was really starting to come into my own
00:19:29
and fall in love with it it was all the
00:19:32
world was crumbling away around me
00:19:34
um and so I got sponsored at age 12 by
00:19:38
Dogtown skateboards yeah which didn't
00:19:41
really mean a whole lot it just meant
00:19:43
that sometimes they would send me free
00:19:45
skateboards that was pretty much it and
00:19:46
then I moved up so no money no no money
00:19:49
sponsor I never knew what that meant but
00:19:51
I thought that was it was a free gear
00:19:52
coolest one free gear free gear and then
00:19:54
and then that moved me up to the
00:19:55
sponsored Division and that kind of lit
00:19:58
a fire because suddenly I was skating
00:20:00
with people who are much more advanced
00:20:02
and I had to figure out how to navigate
00:20:03
that and then I Rose to the top of the
00:20:07
amateur ranks in within two years and
00:20:10
then I actually turned pro at age 14. I
00:20:14
what that means is I was filling out an
00:20:17
entry form to the competition
00:20:19
and there's an there's your name and
00:20:21
address and then there's a box that says
00:20:22
amateur and the box says Pro so I check
00:20:24
the pro box that was the only difference
00:20:26
that was it yeah you made money or sorry
00:20:30
that was competing for a hundred dollars
00:20:31
first place okay 75 second 50 for third
00:20:34
I got fourth
00:20:37
so no money no money do you remember
00:20:38
your first check for doing this or my
00:20:40
first check was 50 bucks when I got
00:20:42
third place 50 bucks yep I got paid
00:20:43
three dollars for my first set oh you
00:20:46
got money for your first set that's
00:20:47
pretty rare Rob Williams was there I
00:20:49
think we it was ten dollars I think he
00:20:51
took seven I took three
00:20:53
oh seven seven dollars do you want to be
00:20:56
famous I asked him oh I just want to
00:20:58
play for the people never forgot that
00:21:00
well you're playing pretty well I God
00:21:02
Rest assault good friend anyway Tony
00:21:04
that's remarkable how are your parents
00:21:06
reacting to this and your brother are
00:21:09
you is there a sibling thing like Tony's
00:21:11
a superstar well he was he was um he is
00:21:14
13 years older than me so oh okay so he
00:21:16
was in college and uh just kind of
00:21:19
watched it wait he was there sometimes
00:21:22
but
00:21:23
my parents I think they saw what it
00:21:25
provided me just in terms of my sense of
00:21:28
self and self-confidence and finally
00:21:30
kind of focusing all of my energy and
00:21:33
frustrations onto that instead of them
00:21:35
so they were thankful and they were
00:21:38
supportive and they were meant very few
00:21:40
parents were supportive because of the
00:21:43
danger of it or or just because of the
00:21:45
culture of the culture a certain dude
00:21:48
and you weren't going to go to school
00:21:49
yeah even though there's a rumor you're
00:21:50
smart but we have no proof
00:21:52
it says here your IQ is 144 44. maybe at
00:21:56
one point maybe at least half as high as
00:21:58
that
00:21:59
yeah mine's incredibly smart he's a
00:22:02
chess champion that was his thing that's
00:22:04
that's what I got off of that to go into
00:22:05
Skype which was a mistake so did you
00:22:08
some of us didn't go pro Tony and uh
00:22:10
didn't get four so you got paid fifty
00:22:13
dollars yeah and then
00:22:15
um eventually got my own skateboard
00:22:16
model and that's when I started
00:22:18
receiving real checks royalty checks for
00:22:20
between four and five dollars a month
00:22:28
my sponsor pal Peralta they designed the
00:22:31
graphics of it um but then okay
00:22:34
something happened in the mid 80s where
00:22:36
suddenly skateboarding kind of came
00:22:37
around again and I found myself in high
00:22:40
school making six figures from royalties
00:22:43
on those skateboards so you're already
00:22:45
an entrepreneur you're you're a
00:22:47
businessman already as you're a
00:22:49
Superstar athlete yeah I didn't see it
00:22:51
that way but but it would just sort of
00:22:52
were other kids doing it as well did you
00:22:54
have other did you have other dudes or
00:22:55
women in the school that were no school
00:22:58
no that's it that was the weird thing is
00:23:00
that there was this Resurgence of
00:23:01
skateboarding it was popular but not a
00:23:05
mainstream or widespread popularity so I
00:23:07
was still the outcast at school I
00:23:09
literally would would hide my skateboard
00:23:10
in the bushes when I go to school
00:23:12
because people would hassle me if I if I
00:23:14
carried around they would yell skater
00:23:16
[ __ ]
00:23:17
yes I was Pro I was Pro and I was
00:23:21
traveling to places like Florida to
00:23:24
places like Phoenix to go to these big
00:23:26
events and sign autographs and come to
00:23:28
school and I was a ghost can I ask you
00:23:29
just a technical question yes because it
00:23:31
would seem to me the one I watched
00:23:34
gymnasts and stuff that you you growing
00:23:37
to six foot three is at an advantage
00:23:39
disadvantage or neutral in terms of
00:23:42
doing upside down flips you have to have
00:23:44
a bigger you know the math of that when
00:23:47
did you get to six three uh not till I
00:23:50
was in my late teens so you're becoming
00:23:53
a brilliant skateboarder and you're
00:23:54
growing and so you're adapting your
00:23:57
revolutions to that height yeah and I
00:23:59
was still very flexible when I got tall
00:24:01
so it was to an advantage because I
00:24:03
finally was able to get speed
00:24:05
okay get get more height and because I
00:24:08
could ball up I could still do those
00:24:10
spins and things but at Greater Heights
00:24:12
so your height
00:24:14
yeah I can't say it it's helped me into
00:24:17
my older age but it definitely helped me
00:24:18
interesting okay okay uh my
00:24:22
psychological question I'm the Layman
00:24:23
he's a skateboard is now uh
00:24:27
when you grew up in San Diego and what
00:24:29
was the park in Carlsbad was it big oh
00:24:31
what's not uh so there was Oasis skate
00:24:34
park in San Diego yeah and then that
00:24:36
closed and then uh Del Mar skate Ranch
00:24:38
was Alaska cool one park in that area
00:24:40
yeah okay so let's say Tony's remember
00:24:42
Vans
00:24:43
yeah yeah that's much later for one of
00:24:46
my kids birthdays I bought the place
00:24:49
which one Ontario or it was down in
00:24:51
Orange it was like Milpitas or something
00:24:54
oh yeah yeah that was vans that made him
00:24:57
the coolest kid in school that was a
00:24:59
good party yeah
00:25:03
[Music]
00:25:05
now let's say because I did get to golf
00:25:08
with Tiger Woods let's say he's the best
00:25:10
in golf that's sort of generally no and
00:25:12
you are let's say generally known as the
00:25:14
best skater uh is it is it something in
00:25:17
you that makes you not want to give up
00:25:19
number one because you still skate you
00:25:21
don't really have to skate anymore you
00:25:22
could stop and yeah well I never did it
00:25:25
for fame or Fortune you still like it
00:25:28
but those think those things weren't
00:25:29
even dreams no I I have the same I asked
00:25:32
my wife did I ever talk about being rich
00:25:34
or famous never I was in the club and I
00:25:36
just wanted to be the best guy in that
00:25:37
club so I totally related but in
00:25:39
skateboarding no one was rich or famous
00:25:41
when I started yeah that wasn't that
00:25:43
would you know no one could Inspire them
00:25:45
what do you aspire to I don't know I'm
00:25:46
gonna be Pro no one's making money yeah
00:25:48
that hundred dollar check yeah and your
00:25:50
picture in the magazine and so um that
00:25:52
was never the motivation and so having
00:25:54
come this far and having
00:25:56
success I would have never dreamed I
00:25:59
still just want to skate I mean it
00:26:00
really is what do you want to push it
00:26:01
down first Superstar I think I could
00:26:05
turn to corner on that to be honest I
00:26:07
mean you've proven everything but I
00:26:08
guess it's still fun to be like you're
00:26:09
still as good as everyone we go to
00:26:10
comedy clubs you still want to do as
00:26:12
good as these guys you know it's the
00:26:13
same thing sure yeah I can't that's the
00:26:15
thing though like I can't phone it in
00:26:17
and everyone's watching him I can't yeah
00:26:20
and so if I were to feel like I'm not
00:26:22
really of a professional level I
00:26:24
wouldn't do it in public or on camera
00:26:26
yeah
00:26:27
um but I'm I'm just like I still walk
00:26:30
the walk I just totally relate to what
00:26:32
you're saying you know when I go to do a
00:26:35
day I I can't open I just want to
00:26:37
dominate but it's it's not an unfair way
00:26:40
like you have your peers just to do but
00:26:41
to do your personal best yeah yeah and
00:26:43
if not because you want to destroy
00:26:45
everyone else no no but it's it's it
00:26:46
becomes a de facto comedy competition
00:26:48
sometimes and there's a lot of
00:26:50
subjectivity to it when 10 guys go on
00:26:52
and we're supposed to be just hanging
00:26:54
out at The Comedy Store doing our sets
00:26:55
but also I was like you're the best
00:26:57
Setter he couldn't follow you it's a
00:26:59
gunslinger thing right but yeah it's not
00:27:02
as much with Dave and I we don't know
00:27:03
well I did enjoy you guys after Chris
00:27:05
Rock
00:27:06
oh you saw I saw that did you sense the
00:27:08
awkwardness because we were Caucasians I
00:27:11
know that you guys handled very well I
00:27:13
didn't want anyone to figure that out
00:27:14
but they did right away well they were
00:27:17
yeah it was uh it was good we were there
00:27:19
to facilitate but um you know I can't
00:27:21
join in on those conversations and no
00:27:24
but I thought you guys did a good job I
00:27:26
wanted a joke first of all we liked
00:27:27
everybody there all the the panel was
00:27:28
cool we hung with them all day JB's
00:27:31
funny he came out of his shell that
00:27:33
night
00:27:34
and you know finally for the first time
00:27:37
poking and prodding yeah the guy he lit
00:27:40
his cigar backstage he'd held it for 20.
00:27:42
that went so good I'm gonna light this
00:27:45
up I said JB you are smooth
00:27:47
he was nice no we know and we've known
00:27:50
Chris David especially close with Chris
00:27:52
but no one since 1990 yeah and uh that
00:27:56
was sort of how it came about like we
00:27:58
had a podcast we're always together
00:27:59
we're together anyway SNL it's Chris
00:28:02
we're all buddies let's put a panel
00:28:05
together let's I guess they want to make
00:28:06
the event bigger so why not we'll talk
00:28:08
about it but there's some stuff in there
00:28:10
if I had some heavy controversial
00:28:12
opinions I would say him I but I didn't
00:28:14
really I just watched the jokes like
00:28:16
them said a few funny things but when it
00:28:18
got really heavy
00:28:20
things I don't want to comment I mean I
00:28:22
want to let them talk and that was why
00:28:24
we're all the same thesis but it
00:28:26
happened to Chris and he owned it and
00:28:27
expanded it but I thought it was always
00:28:31
about something else that anger right
00:28:33
with wife I mean it was pretty obvious
00:28:36
but he laid it out perfectly and what
00:28:38
was fascinating to me is that
00:28:41
very rarely does the world watch quote
00:28:44
unquote the world and we all know the
00:28:46
story oh yeah we all saw the slap and
00:28:48
all the reaction and then a year later
00:28:50
we have a guy who got connected to it in
00:28:52
such a way because Chris doesn't flood
00:28:55
lines but I think the emotion was so
00:28:57
strong at that moment which made it
00:28:59
better because it was live and real that
00:29:02
this was a more than a mic drop he was
00:29:04
working some stuff out and
00:29:07
um you know I he just wondered casually
00:29:10
is this is this over now or I mean Me
00:29:12
Maybe another special next year we've
00:29:14
all been bullied me and Chris used to
00:29:16
talk about I was pushed around Arizona I
00:29:18
was always a pipsqueak and I hated it
00:29:20
and Chris hated it and I I'm sure Dana
00:29:22
got a little bit of it well no no way
00:29:23
more I got no I got bullied by a grown
00:29:27
man
00:29:28
yeah yeah and so when you get like that
00:29:31
I can see when things like that set you
00:29:33
off road rage [ __ ] because people try to
00:29:35
[ __ ] with me they'll hit on a date right
00:29:37
in front of me they'll go on this guy
00:29:38
going to say anything or they'll say
00:29:39
that you're not gonna do [ __ ] and that
00:29:41
anger builds up over your whole life and
00:29:43
so Chris getting that on stage at the
00:29:46
Oscars in my head I was like I don't
00:29:48
know if I could continue life it'd just
00:29:49
be it's so humiliating and then you
00:29:51
don't fight back should I have you so
00:29:53
you go on and on and will I thought got
00:29:56
off pretty easy because
00:29:57
Banning from the Oscars one thing but
00:29:59
Banning from getting an Oscar is I
00:30:01
thought should be stronger for a couple
00:30:02
years he doesn't have to go to the silly
00:30:04
show who cares go to the Vanity Fair
00:30:06
party just wait and watch people walk in
00:30:07
they'll bring it in on a platter yeah I
00:30:09
saw him there after the Vanity Fair Park
00:30:10
then I saw Chris
00:30:12
and uh Chris was pretty cool so I I saw
00:30:15
Chris the next morning where were you I
00:30:18
was staying up here and I saw him at
00:30:20
breakfast oh you did yeah and he was
00:30:21
alone at a table
00:30:24
well tell us what you said to him I just
00:30:27
said I thought that you handled that
00:30:29
like a maestro and um he said yeah it's
00:30:32
still hard I didn't do it with me but he
00:30:34
but he already had a clear piece yeah
00:30:36
you know yeah he has his own history
00:30:38
with with uh
00:30:40
sit on it for a year
00:30:42
it's got driving crazy but at least he
00:30:45
let it all out and it was it was great I
00:30:47
feel like he's I think that was a
00:30:50
literal mic drop I don't think he he got
00:30:52
it all out I don't think he has anything
00:30:53
else to say right right but I hope it
00:30:55
continues people have said to David and
00:30:57
I if we had a a real Feud this podcast
00:30:59
would blow up now we're trying oh so I'm
00:31:02
trying to find a way to get mad at it I
00:31:03
think that's pretty mellow you want to
00:31:04
be part of it there's a wedge here
00:31:09
I want to have credit for that no but
00:31:12
what you say about bullying I mean and
00:31:14
in our day it was you just you got
00:31:16
picked on yeah they're always picking on
00:31:18
me they're you know we pick on him that
00:31:21
was totally accepted yeah there were no
00:31:23
resources a lot of it is not grandiose
00:31:25
like a lot of it's just the uh the guy
00:31:28
in the locker room just takes the back
00:31:29
of your neck and just just quickly just
00:31:32
pushes you down to the floor
00:31:35
because I was so small they would pick
00:31:37
me up in the hallway and spin me around
00:31:39
once
00:31:40
by the way nothing more humiliating
00:31:41
that's why you were so great doing 360.
00:31:44
you got to think the guys let's go wait
00:31:47
let's go two and a half this time okay
00:31:49
Tony Hawk became brilliant because of
00:31:52
bullies who would flip and throw them in
00:31:54
the air throw them across the room roll
00:31:56
them down the hill but to your
00:31:58
skateboard you go no one's trying to hit
00:31:59
me you get picked up like I do when
00:32:02
people pick me up at a party I [ __ ]
00:32:04
flip out and to this day it happens I go
00:32:06
if you pick me up we're dead for life
00:32:07
we're not friends ever again it's like
00:32:09
the most humiliating too yeah and they'd
00:32:12
throw you against the locker I had a
00:32:14
girl and that was my mom that's it
00:32:15
that's it after I came my pants I said
00:32:18
this is over
00:32:22
surprise ending
00:32:24
a happy surprise
00:32:27
so Tony well Tony Tony
00:32:30
um you know let's ask him about uh the
00:32:31
movie we did we have to talk about oh
00:32:33
yeah okay well I just so go ahead you
00:32:34
guys I'm still so fascinated how well
00:32:37
just to make one opposite one opposite
00:32:39
casual observation the sport is went
00:32:42
follow for a while yeah you come up
00:32:44
you're emerging right as the sport is
00:32:47
going and so you're the first that I
00:32:49
don't know if there's a second or there
00:32:51
are these after Superstars but to the
00:32:53
Casual Observer you are skating you're
00:32:56
who
00:32:58
how many people their name is a brand
00:33:00
it's funny because I don't know I you
00:33:01
know I know skating I know some names
00:33:03
but it's synonymous with Tony is at that
00:33:06
level yeah well I I can tell you I
00:33:08
credit a lot of that for a successful
00:33:11
video game oh that's right because your
00:33:13
name because our our game in newsletters
00:33:15
had had huge success they're gigantic
00:33:18
yeah that is where you made the most
00:33:19
money right oh yeah yeah and so people
00:33:22
would would
00:33:23
see my name synonymous with a successful
00:33:25
video game so that kind of added to the
00:33:28
recognition Factor well that's the cool
00:33:30
thing is that you're the video game guy
00:33:32
and then you're still actually the best
00:33:33
guy oh and they can physically do it
00:33:36
doesn't always happen so that that's
00:33:37
that's so much power so how did the
00:33:39
video game quickly how did that come
00:33:40
about they approached you you got to a
00:33:42
certain level and a company approached
00:33:43
you and were you in on the design of it
00:33:45
and so on uh so I was actually working
00:33:49
with a PC programmer who came to me and
00:33:52
said hey I have an idea for a skateboard
00:33:54
game nerd what's up nerd nerd
00:33:58
we were two nerds
00:34:01
knocking on doors we were going to
00:34:03
console manufacturers we're going to
00:34:05
software companies and saying how old
00:34:07
are you uh so this was not like around
00:34:10
97 96 97 so you're huge so at that point
00:34:14
right
00:34:15
um yeah well I there was there's sort of
00:34:17
a gap in in skating's popularity in the
00:34:20
early 90s so it went underground very
00:34:22
much so and that's kind of when Street
00:34:24
skating emerged okay so this game they
00:34:26
don't come to you fully formed they say
00:34:29
this he and I went to meetings and we
00:34:32
just got shut down everywhere we went
00:34:34
they said skateboarding is not popular
00:34:35
classic why would anyone want to play a
00:34:37
skateboarding game okay uh and and at
00:34:40
the time there weren't that many home
00:34:42
consoles there were there were some but
00:34:44
not it wasn't did you go to Nintendo no
00:34:47
so he gave up he got frustrated okay and
00:34:50
he he actually told me he said look I I
00:34:52
gotta find a job but um I feel like
00:34:54
we've made some some Headway in terms of
00:34:57
putting your name out there that you're
00:34:59
interested in doing this and then maybe
00:35:01
something will come of that I remember
00:35:02
thinking yeah okay buddy sure and then
00:35:04
almost a year later uh Activision called
00:35:07
me and said hey we heard you want to do
00:35:09
a video game I said well yes very much
00:35:12
so they said well we are doing a video
00:35:13
game about reporting and we'd like your
00:35:17
input or to see if you want to get
00:35:18
involved so I went up to Activision and
00:35:21
they were working on this game that was
00:35:23
based on an engine that they had already
00:35:24
made for a game called um apocalypse
00:35:27
starring Bruce Willis okay it was the
00:35:29
first game that had a celebrity
00:35:31
look-alike you know their Avatar I guess
00:35:35
Avatar sure not the movie but not that
00:35:38
literal and his voice and but it didn't
00:35:40
do very well but the engine was perfect
00:35:42
for skateboarding the engine
00:35:45
the motion in the game so the first time
00:35:48
I ever played what became Tony Hawk's
00:35:49
Pro Skater was was Bruce Willis on a
00:35:52
skateboard with a gun on his back
00:35:55
doing kickflips okay like through a desk
00:35:57
and it was Bruce Willis that's a start
00:35:59
yeah that was it was there a
00:36:01
breakthrough moment or an epiphany like
00:36:03
how how to make a skateboard thing as
00:36:06
exciting as a war when I played the game
00:36:10
I knew then like this is the way it
00:36:12
should because you're feeling it I'm
00:36:14
feeling it and it was intuitive but
00:36:15
suddenly I was doing tricks right away
00:36:17
right so I thought with my with my
00:36:20
resources we could probably make
00:36:21
something that is legitimate I I wasn't
00:36:23
thinking it was going to go gangbusters
00:36:25
because I still heard those voices
00:36:26
saying who would want to play a
00:36:27
skateboard game right and when I told
00:36:29
them I had a Nintendo 64 at the time and
00:36:31
I said oh we're gonna make this for
00:36:32
Nintendo 64 and they go no we're making
00:36:34
this for PlayStation okay
00:36:36
there's a million PlayStations out there
00:36:38
there aren't a million Nintendo 64s and
00:36:41
so I went along with that obviously and
00:36:44
another smart idea not long after when
00:36:46
when it had success in the beginning
00:36:48
they called me and said you get your
00:36:50
wish we're gonna do Nintendo 64.
00:36:53
great I was like cool and then we ended
00:36:54
up doing all the systems and it just did
00:36:56
the first guy you wet the beak on him a
00:36:58
little bit or not did he go away for
00:37:00
good show business term wet the beak
00:37:01
give me a little money yeah a little
00:37:04
taste no I felt bad for that guy oh he's
00:37:07
totally well yeah so you had gross
00:37:09
points I mean I don't know whatever but
00:37:10
you're you're an owner and so being an
00:37:13
owner is King and um oh yeah I mean it
00:37:16
changed my life so it just starts
00:37:18
rolling in and then it gets bigger by
00:37:20
the time the fourth game no I remember
00:37:23
my first I remember writing my first
00:37:25
check to the IRS and thinking this is
00:37:28
more this is more than the money I'd
00:37:31
ever think I'd made in my lifetime
00:37:33
leading to the IRS the rich pay the fair
00:37:37
share the only way to dinners Tony Hawk
00:37:39
Tony Hawk I couldn't figure out the
00:37:43
loopholes that was Joe Biden sorry I got
00:37:45
it he gets it anyway well everything
00:37:47
seems to be going well at this point
00:37:49
Your Existence the game is kicked ass
00:37:51
you've won so many X Games world
00:37:53
champion
00:37:55
um done a lot of commercials you land a
00:37:57
900 at some point how long did it take
00:38:01
you when I saw the deal was that for you
00:38:04
uh that was well that was
00:38:06
for me that was my best uh exit from
00:38:10
competition so you you were thinking I'm
00:38:12
going to land this I wasn't and there
00:38:15
was no plan oh it was all spontaneous
00:38:18
that night honestly so you just thought
00:38:20
so just because I was trying to explain
00:38:22
it to my wife and my sons you're going
00:38:25
up in the air really really high
00:38:27
you're going a full revolution in your
00:38:30
body another full Revolution and then a
00:38:33
half the revolution which you know 360
00:38:35
360 180 and then hit it right and that
00:38:39
was a little Mount Everest kind of thing
00:38:42
um for me at that time yeah because I
00:38:45
had been trying off and on for 10 years
00:38:49
um I did I did the first 720 in 1985.
00:38:52
and that was huge at the time
00:38:55
um yes for sure I mean in the skateboard
00:38:57
world but the skateboard world wasn't
00:38:58
huge oh okay there were no X Games there
00:39:00
was no social media so no one really
00:39:02
does I have to be filmed or do they take
00:39:04
your word for it
00:39:05
I got a sequence of it that I mean back
00:39:07
then there was Bones Brigade videos were
00:39:09
out kinda but really it was more about
00:39:11
did it get in the magazine so I got a
00:39:14
small sequence and throws all those
00:39:16
photos like that yeah I got a small
00:39:17
sequence in Thrasher doing a 720. okay
00:39:19
yeah I probably saw I think on a
00:39:22
backyard ramp in Sweden so when you
00:39:24
landed the 900 what kind of what
00:39:25
competition were you that was that kind
00:39:27
of [ __ ] at the X Games that was global
00:39:28
television what I said what kind of
00:39:30
[ __ ] did you get I thought that's what
00:39:32
you're saying for mature audiences only
00:39:35
is that on the video okay that's where
00:39:37
you're headed
00:39:38
uh not quite no so you do I get all
00:39:40
serious so what so you do that you're um
00:39:46
he's out there that's your question I
00:39:48
was trying it off and on I couldn't
00:39:49
figure it out I got hurt a couple times
00:39:50
doing it and then when that event
00:39:52
happened in 99 it was the best trick
00:39:55
event and I had one trick planned for
00:39:57
that event which was not the 900. it was
00:40:00
a variation of a 720 and I I made that
00:40:03
early on so I had 10 minutes to kill in
00:40:07
this event and the announcer the live
00:40:10
announcer for the audience that was
00:40:12
there said why don't we see one of those
00:40:14
900s and I was like great uh like now
00:40:18
I'm on the spot crowd okay yeah I
00:40:21
watched this last time this isn't the
00:40:22
one where you kept trying it is that the
00:40:24
one I kept trying yeah that's one where
00:40:25
you go over and over and you're like the
00:40:28
tenth one and then they all Bob and
00:40:29
everyone almost gave up and then
00:40:33
I think I think after my third or fourth
00:40:35
attempt I realized that this is the
00:40:38
closest I've ever gotten so I'm there's
00:40:40
no way I'm gonna give up it's either I'm
00:40:42
gonna make this or they're gonna take me
00:40:44
away are you going to get hurt or
00:40:45
something what do you think are you
00:40:46
thinking right as you take off like to
00:40:48
get a height right to get as high uh
00:40:50
there there's what are you thinking
00:40:52
there's a bunch of elements but speed
00:40:54
for sure it's got to be a certain height
00:40:56
to get that much spin rotation
00:40:59
um the snap is when the the spin leave
00:41:03
the ramp the ramp yeah you got to have a
00:41:06
snap where you you hit your tail and you
00:41:08
grab the board at the exact same time
00:41:11
and if that doesn't happen your board
00:41:12
just flies away immediately and you're
00:41:14
stuck in space all right as you're about
00:41:16
to go where you got to grab your boards
00:41:18
they're attached to it and so if you get
00:41:20
a good snap then somewhere in the middle
00:41:22
of the spin you have to shift your
00:41:24
weight towards the front foot that was
00:41:26
the part that I couldn't figure out all
00:41:27
those years whoa oh interesting and so I
00:41:31
mean sorry not not the towards towards
00:41:33
the back foot so you spinning if you if
00:41:36
you just spin the way that you take off
00:41:37
and try to land you're too top heavy so
00:41:40
I had to figure out how to sort of shift
00:41:42
my weight to the back foot mid Spin and
00:41:45
that's what you see me working out you
00:41:46
mean when you land you'll go face first
00:41:48
you won't I did go face first the first
00:41:50
time I ever tried to make it so that's
00:41:52
why you go I gotta be I gotta put the
00:41:53
weight on the back foot it seemed like
00:41:54
when you did do it you did sort of a
00:41:56
squat and you it you yeah well that was
00:41:58
me overcompensating right but you didn't
00:42:00
leave the board you set the record but
00:42:02
that was like yeah interesting wow yeah
00:42:05
you um you know because I do when I used
00:42:07
to skate it's fun to watch Once I quit
00:42:10
because you sort of know a little bit
00:42:12
about it enough to know which tricks are
00:42:14
hard so when I see Instagram and I'm
00:42:15
like God damn like it got so beyond what
00:42:18
I could ever do I was I was it's video
00:42:20
games now like the tricks that you see
00:42:22
yeah I can't imagine on Instagram or the
00:42:24
or the pros that you see out there
00:42:25
especially Street skaters it's the kind
00:42:28
of thing that we did on our video game
00:42:29
in combos as a joke because you know you
00:42:32
could never do it yeah no one will ever
00:42:33
do this right and now they're doing it
00:42:35
has the equipment gotten better then or
00:42:37
is there uh the equipment hasn't changed
00:42:40
it seems about the same I think they'd
00:42:42
have like they have you know plates on
00:42:45
track shoes people running four minute
00:42:47
miles high schoolers you know yeah
00:42:50
okay so it's they're all about the same
00:42:53
weight they're all about the same it's
00:42:54
also like when you think about the
00:42:56
generations that have come before they
00:42:59
the generation coming in now establishes
00:43:01
that oh a 900 is possible or these these
00:43:04
tricks these combos are reality so
00:43:06
that's the Baseline of which to start
00:43:09
you could even go crazier yeah you know
00:43:11
they used to have these things Dana
00:43:13
called uh Sky hooks so if that was
00:43:16
Kareem Abdul Tony knows what it is if
00:43:17
you if I I was like it was hard for me
00:43:19
to when I got to doing Aerials at the
00:43:22
old high roller skate park in Arizona
00:43:24
and so when you have to leave the top of
00:43:27
the pool that's being a colossal [ __ ]
00:43:29
this is a doctor telling me this that's
00:43:31
three [ __ ] on this uh yeah no that's
00:43:34
just saying I am not tough so all with
00:43:36
different connotations oh yeah total
00:43:38
different meanings it's a fear thing
00:43:39
Dana once you leave the top model or
00:43:42
maybe I'll be my dad it's too scary and
00:43:45
then so I wiped out a high roller trying
00:43:46
to do an aerial axle stall I think I've
00:43:48
told Tony this before and so I which but
00:43:50
to his credit is a pretty gnarly it's a
00:43:52
hard trick it's hard and it's dangerous
00:43:54
and so you go up I think David and Drake
00:43:56
someone did good speed you drop off
00:43:58
David Andrew you go up out of the pool
00:43:59
it was a it was a pool at the skate park
00:44:01
and you go up and you land on your axles
00:44:03
and then you drop back in okay Landing
00:44:05
is the hard part dropping and I could
00:44:06
probably do but I missed it and I wiped
00:44:08
out and I fell backwards into the pool
00:44:09
and broke both of us now
00:44:12
everyone uh uh all the concerns skaters
00:44:16
go get the [ __ ] out of the ball yes so
00:44:19
because I was laying there yeah and so
00:44:21
broken wrists
00:44:22
it's hard to walk up from the deep end
00:44:24
of the shell like it's like slippery so
00:44:27
I get out and I'm laying on my brothers
00:44:29
we had the Lee car and Andy got mad
00:44:32
because we just got to the skate park we
00:44:33
had two hours and so I'm laying on the
00:44:35
car on the on the windshield and uh Andy
00:44:38
they go get Andy my brother because he
00:44:40
saw me he goes I'll just go in the car
00:44:42
we're out of here in two hours and so
00:44:45
the the Escape Park person saw me kind
00:44:47
of shaking I think I didn't say anything
00:44:49
I knew I was in trouble and then they
00:44:51
went and got Andy and he comes and
00:44:52
throws his helmet and goes what the [ __ ]
00:44:54
you're fine right and I go yeah and they
00:44:56
go no you got to take him home you can't
00:44:57
stay and he goes [ __ ] so he he throws me
00:45:01
in the carnival he goes I'm going back
00:45:03
so he dropped me to my stepdad
00:45:06
but he went back to see my back yeah and
00:45:07
then I sat there and then my stepdad was
00:45:10
buzzed because it was night he was just
00:45:12
drinking this morning and he took me to
00:45:14
his clinic and x-rayed him and I saw a
00:45:16
crack down both of them around his
00:45:18
Corner I'd look around the corner I go
00:45:19
hmm I didn't even go to med school I see
00:45:21
something going on did they shut the
00:45:22
[ __ ] off he goes let's sit on this oh
00:45:25
he was drunk I go what are we waiting
00:45:27
for so I lay down and I don't you know
00:45:29
we're in a Vikings back then we don't
00:45:30
have anything so I'm just laying there
00:45:31
sort of whimpering I was wondering and
00:45:35
then uh the next day my mother take a
00:45:37
man and do something so he just gave me
00:45:39
splints so then the first day of school
00:45:42
I went as a freshman I had two splints
00:45:44
but I looked like a badass I had my
00:45:45
quicksilvers I had my [ __ ] op shirt
00:45:47
carrying yeah I didn't we got injured in
00:45:51
different ways like my brother popped a
00:45:53
wheelie that's we doing yeah pop the
00:45:55
wheelie the wheel comes off chips his
00:45:57
teeth oh yeah the forks go down you go
00:46:00
uh oh this is just wait so he's like got
00:46:01
Fangs for a while they finally got him
00:46:03
you know caps on him and then he's doing
00:46:06
a Duncan Imperial going with the yo-yo
00:46:09
boom broke him again that's twice you
00:46:13
guys we're Daredevils Slinky then he got
00:46:17
a slinky he lost an ear look I don't
00:46:20
want to go into the Carvey we were
00:46:22
roughing tumble 60s kids it wasn't
00:46:24
nothing nothing was safe trust me I
00:46:27
knocked my teeth out my front teeth uh
00:46:29
five times
00:46:30
god wow dang are you really yeah
00:46:34
um but the cool thing about that is
00:46:35
every time you knock them out you can
00:46:37
choose the size and the color
00:46:39
you have a very positive value in your
00:46:42
adult life that's that's a thing right
00:46:43
so how many bones you have broken in
00:46:45
your body everyone wants to know
00:46:47
four officially four officially yeah my
00:46:50
pelvis my elbow uh my femur and
00:46:55
um well I broke my thumb basically
00:46:57
concussion how many bruises roughly
00:46:59
concussions I had many
00:47:08
you find out later but he was out cold
00:47:11
for three minutes once yeah well
00:47:14
concussions weren't talked about a lot
00:47:16
in the old days no no you just hit your
00:47:17
head hard they didn't know yeah you got
00:47:20
a spell wrong but they say multiple hard
00:47:22
hits is the hardest thing on your brain
00:47:24
uh well or or in the hundreds in in
00:47:27
succession yeah yeah where it's one
00:47:29
after the other the in a short time yes
00:47:31
absolutely and and
00:47:33
um I've been proactive in that and I've
00:47:35
I've had the tests and to see if I'm at
00:47:37
risk for Alzheimer's and it seems that
00:47:40
I'm doing all right I see a lot of dudes
00:47:41
in these Instagram with no helmets doing
00:47:43
some gnarly stuff yes a little scary
00:47:45
it's kind of a skateboarder cool thing
00:47:46
to do but it is not the smartest they
00:47:49
were trying to when they put
00:47:51
skateboarding in the Olympics there
00:47:52
there was a there was a movement which I
00:47:56
found odd to not have helmets in the
00:47:58
Park event
00:48:01
people are flying
00:48:04
yeah you're doing Railside that's it
00:48:05
when it's flat you're saying when it's
00:48:07
just Street stuff I'm not when the
00:48:08
street they're they're not but what they
00:48:11
were saying we shouldn't have to wear
00:48:13
pads and I was like you guys are I I was
00:48:15
I was not in the conversation but so you
00:48:17
guys are flying 10 feet above 10 foot
00:48:20
pools that's yeah I don't think it's
00:48:22
going to go well for the general
00:48:23
audience
00:48:25
yeah I know it's not like it's supposed
00:48:27
to be kind of a fun game picture parents
00:48:29
going yeah you're never gonna do that
00:48:34
[Music]
00:48:36
does the skateboarding culture or does
00:48:39
it overlap with surfing in a way or is
00:48:41
that a bad vibe that it also
00:48:43
it's not necessarily a cannabis culture
00:48:46
it was kind of oh uh
00:48:48
I'd say skateboarding is so diverse now
00:48:51
that I wouldn't just zero in on
00:48:53
something like that I I feel like this
00:48:55
definitely has been associated with they
00:48:58
had the phrase Surfer bomb do they have
00:49:00
spider bomb
00:49:01
um
00:49:02
skate rat I think Escape rat is more
00:49:04
like to someone who yeah but I think on
00:49:06
the outside especially in the in those
00:49:08
days when skating wasn't very popular
00:49:10
there was a there was a sort of view of
00:49:13
skating that was oh they're Slackers
00:49:15
there's nothing wake up late they're
00:49:17
Stoners right and I guess you could view
00:49:19
it like that but I feel like skating
00:49:21
requires so much discipline that that
00:49:23
was sort of being yeah it's very
00:49:25
technical it's true we were sort of
00:49:27
outliers because you didn't fit in
00:49:29
anywhere at our school so my brother and
00:49:31
I yeah we took my kids to Europe and
00:49:33
they
00:49:34
because we were middle class kids got
00:49:36
some money we're in Italy but all they
00:49:38
wanted all they talked about was statues
00:49:40
and monuments I could catch so much air
00:49:41
off that oh yeah everything was about
00:49:43
what they could skate off of yeah kind
00:49:45
of any angle and I remember when one of
00:49:48
the pal tourists went to the Vatican and
00:49:50
I tail dropped off one of the sculptures
00:49:52
and I'm sure they loved that people
00:49:53
didn't really like that yeah wait a
00:49:55
minute you were in the Vatican it's an
00:49:57
Escape I mean in the Vatican City area
00:50:00
yeah yeah we we were just that's that
00:50:03
was the thing in those days all we cared
00:50:04
about was skating so it was anything
00:50:06
yeah yeah the sizing was just more
00:50:08
incidental to us getting to skate that
00:50:10
day uh stairs what was that what would
00:50:12
you get most excited about just in sort
00:50:15
of urban back in those days anything
00:50:17
that resembled a ramp or a bank or like
00:50:20
a uh Reservoir even in Kettner school
00:50:23
here I used to see in skateboarder
00:50:24
magazine so when I came here I had to go
00:50:26
find it and it was kind of lame it was
00:50:28
just slight banks on asphalt but it was
00:50:30
something that was the early days yeah I
00:50:33
do some burtlemans
00:50:45
in the first Bones Brigade uh newsletter
00:50:48
yeah I had a photo doing a burtleman at
00:50:51
Canter Banks oh for real yeah
00:50:56
Tony's a photographer across me if you
00:50:58
go up to him and there's a camera low
00:51:00
and you do a tail block put your hand
00:51:01
down and then oh yeah that's a good
00:51:03
picture angle yeah that's a good one uh
00:51:06
let's talk about the movie uh what you
00:51:07
were in jackass too before we get to
00:51:09
Police Academy
00:51:10
um all of them you're in all of them
00:51:11
yeah and you do did you do Dan have you
00:51:13
seen when uh some kind of blown up suit
00:51:16
full pipe yeah did you do it did you do
00:51:18
a full pipe in a chicken suit or
00:51:20
something
00:51:21
I did yes I was about to say it sounds
00:51:23
like possible
00:51:25
Johnny Knoxville I did that for Jackass
00:51:29
yeah with Matt Hoffman the TV show the
00:51:32
TV show okay he and I watch oh he was a
00:51:34
BMX right yeah and we did we did a loop
00:51:36
uh in Orlando and then then after the we
00:51:39
jumped into this Lake oh that's fun yeah
00:51:41
um and then uh I was on Wild Boys
00:51:45
and we were skating in gorilla costumes
00:51:48
that man it's never easy we were also
00:51:51
skating with an orangutan so that was
00:51:53
the whole vibe there was orangutan that
00:51:55
skated and then Bob Bergquist and I
00:51:57
dressed up in gorilla did the orangutan
00:51:59
think you heard gorillas no but it did
00:52:01
not like if we got ahead of him
00:52:05
he's in it to win it and we're gonna
00:52:08
stand behind
00:52:09
because you don't want him coming after
00:52:10
you
00:52:11
in Europe we end up skating picture your
00:52:14
face off I heard yeah yeah we end up
00:52:17
skating side note uh we're just about to
00:52:19
fill the the content and then we went
00:52:22
and did Bob had his own Loop and we did
00:52:25
Bob's Loop and Bob's Loop was very slow
00:52:27
and weathered and I didn't take that
00:52:28
into consideration as I went down to it
00:52:31
and then I ended up paying the price did
00:52:33
you not get around the whole thing I
00:52:35
fell I fell from what happens I fell
00:52:38
just around uh
00:52:41
uh 10 o'clock going up and that makes
00:52:43
you go all the way to the top and then
00:52:45
fall so I fell 16 feet that's when I
00:52:48
broke my pelvis and were you in the
00:52:51
orangutan suit at that point or some
00:52:52
other suit was the orangutan suit that
00:52:55
was for wild boys was it was it padded
00:52:57
not worth it no they that was extra we
00:52:59
don't got any much and I was wearing the
00:53:01
mask so I wasn't wearing my helmet
00:53:04
uh I got a concussion but I launched my
00:53:07
skull for people at home you just go
00:53:09
straight down fast like Hot Wheels and
00:53:11
then you do a whole Loop a hole and you
00:53:13
lose all your momentum at the top and
00:53:14
you want to bail I'm sure but if you
00:53:16
just hang on you're fully lightweight
00:53:17
I'm sure you're full
00:53:19
um if you have the right amount of speed
00:53:20
you you just hold steady and it works
00:53:23
and it will stay on yeah but but the
00:53:25
problem with Bob's is that it was so
00:53:27
weathered you couldn't get that around
00:53:29
amount of speed I like it so I tried to
00:53:31
compensate by using my legs and if you
00:53:33
use your legs then you end up completely
00:53:36
straight leg with nowhere to go have you
00:53:38
ever studied geometry or or physics
00:53:41
because it sounds like you're really you
00:53:43
got to know speed it's wind it's like
00:53:45
well the first time I ever did it I did
00:53:47
I did go I actually like did a Hot
00:53:50
Wheels and tried to measure that and do
00:53:53
the ratios of how that would work and it
00:53:55
worked the first time but right this
00:53:57
time it didn't work it seems like
00:53:58
there's a lot of thinking that goes into
00:53:59
these tricks that maybe not every
00:54:02
skateboarder has yeah it's just
00:54:04
intuitive no no it's just try right I
00:54:07
don't like they gave you a shitty room
00:54:08
if I get here I'm gonna fall there I got
00:54:10
to get speed to get this velocity and
00:54:11
this angle I don't know yeah we're just
00:54:14
kind of going off a feeling we didn't
00:54:16
have foam pits or training grounds right
00:54:19
so it's like David like he he tried air
00:54:22
to access all and
00:54:23
came out hard broke yeah when we by the
00:54:25
way we we did this movie in the old days
00:54:27
I I was trying to jump the simple thing
00:54:29
of stairs let's see if your wrist has a
00:54:31
bump no I actually I actually broke my
00:54:34
wrist again after that skating yeah and
00:54:36
my mom goes you shouldn't skate anymore
00:54:38
I go because it's too dangerous she goes
00:54:40
no you're horrible at it
00:54:42
we have to keep you in school you keep
00:54:44
we're mortgaging the house yeah it was
00:54:47
it got too hard because it was too you
00:54:50
know I could do the desert pipes uh we
00:54:52
did those I could do uh you know and
00:54:55
just go to vert and come I couldn't
00:54:56
really do that those were those are
00:54:57
famous could you do uh um what is it the
00:55:00
pineapple reverse squat do you remember
00:55:03
that one the old Dipsy Doodle
00:55:08
but it gets scary Dana and it was just
00:55:10
when it gets too hard what they were
00:55:12
doing it just it said I had a hard time
00:55:13
looking at it my kids coming down steep
00:55:16
hills yeah didn't want to wear helmets
00:55:18
but could put the helmet on put the
00:55:19
helmet on and I because of childhood
00:55:22
trauma I had to look away my wife could
00:55:24
just watch them but I would just I would
00:55:26
just look away and they made it you know
00:55:28
we had 23 ER visits between the two sons
00:55:31
oh wow yeah yeah I uh I actually have
00:55:35
the cell number of the head of the ER my
00:55:38
down there by you and your secret we
00:55:41
have a special Lane Tony he's coming in
00:55:43
on Tony Drive okay
00:55:45
we have several children and they all
00:55:48
went through their share of injuries
00:55:49
because they all skate so not too and is
00:55:52
Riley a pro Riley my oldest son is pro
00:55:54
yes yeah he's good he's cool oh that's
00:55:56
cool so do you think um when you see him
00:55:59
becoming that good you do you see
00:56:01
yourself in him intellectually or or I
00:56:04
see I see his
00:56:06
determination and his drive to keep
00:56:09
trying to outdo himself yeah very much
00:56:12
so he he he's more of a street skater so
00:56:14
that is not my wheelhouse but I do see
00:56:17
the same sort of motivation that he has
00:56:19
that I have he's kind of all successful
00:56:22
people it's hard that he's that good
00:56:23
because he's got this guy's a dad and
00:56:25
and it's hard to be good anyway he kind
00:56:27
of he kind of shied away from skating
00:56:29
when he started getting good because of
00:56:31
that it's weird it's definitely weird
00:56:33
but but came back to it because he had
00:56:35
so many close friends that were just
00:56:37
hardcore skaters and kind of found his
00:56:39
own path after that well once you're
00:56:41
making a living at something that's a
00:56:43
passion it's kind of a it's a very nice
00:56:46
thing so he is professional he is yeah
00:56:48
and I always wanted to make the same
00:56:50
amount of money I could as a waiter like
00:56:52
maybe 1500 a month right and once I got
00:56:54
to 600 a month I was able to put their
00:56:57
apron
00:56:58
I made 600. we made 600 times to finish
00:57:02
that sentence
00:57:05
uh I've done two jokes
00:57:08
but um to your point and it's for
00:57:12
everybody who who excels at things so
00:57:14
the passion has to come first and and
00:57:17
just wanting to get better at it you
00:57:19
know yeah wanting to get better I do see
00:57:21
I I have seen skaters come and go
00:57:23
because their motivation is is Fame and
00:57:26
Fortune and if they get a taste of it
00:57:27
then they don't want to skate anymore or
00:57:30
they don't want to push themselves and
00:57:31
also if that's your moniker it's like
00:57:33
Lauren Michael's one of his uh the
00:57:36
miniature hot you feel yourself getting
00:57:38
less hot it's hard to stay so in other
00:57:41
words if you're a Fame [ __ ] you're just
00:57:43
like ah you know yeah I know I like to
00:57:45
stay home I don't want to go anywhere
00:57:46
Dave's a man about town but we we met
00:57:49
we're different that's why we if we have
00:57:51
a chemistry but yeah I'd much rather
00:57:54
watch Friday Night Lights at home I have
00:57:55
to extract Dana out to dinner once a
00:57:58
week yeah I feel you you know but he has
00:58:01
a steak dinner mashed potatoes waiting
00:58:03
for him when he sits down
00:58:05
and then he'll have a small
00:58:07
cup yeah I go are you feeling anything
00:58:09
with that two pounds of times
00:58:13
whiskey tonight Dana why aren't you
00:58:16
asking him about the movie you don't
00:58:17
care about it's Police Academy four well
00:58:21
this is uh
00:58:23
no well this I have some questions after
00:58:25
this but this is
00:58:27
the access of connection between these
00:58:30
two the movie Police Academy four the
00:58:33
good David's in it Tony's in it go guys
00:58:35
I said I got hired just doing improv I
00:58:39
wasn't a good actor the way I locked
00:58:41
into that Tony is I went and I was very
00:58:42
new I was 21.
00:58:44
and I just started doing sets the
00:58:45
improving this casting people peppered
00:58:47
around you just don't know and then when
00:58:49
they called me in and they said we got a
00:58:52
script can you come in an audition I
00:58:53
didn't know what I was doing I would
00:58:54
have literally because my next audition
00:58:55
I just read it off the page yeah uh they
00:58:58
go we want you to read I go oh I can
00:58:59
read and then I just read the script to
00:59:01
them and they were like you don't know
00:59:02
what you're doing and I go nope so the
00:59:05
only reason I got that is because they
00:59:07
go can you skate and I said yeah because
00:59:09
I auditioned for North Shore a movie and
00:59:11
I said I could Surf and I could not and
00:59:13
then did they discover that yeah they
00:59:15
discovered it well I didn't get it so it
00:59:16
got down to me and Matt Adler a buddy of
00:59:18
mine got it and he uh he could serve so
00:59:20
it's about a guy from Arizona and I have
00:59:22
all the components I can't surf that
00:59:24
good uh so I do dodge a bullet with that
00:59:26
one yeah I would have [ __ ] drowned
00:59:27
surfing no no but I'm just saying that
00:59:29
is that is the one of the most quoted
00:59:32
ridiculous Surf movies oh yeah it was
00:59:35
kind of goop well it's kind of goofy is
00:59:37
that you're saying yeah yeah
00:59:38
there's some one-liners in there that
00:59:40
endure that they'll live on because it's
00:59:43
called Uh North Shore North Shore yeah
00:59:45
and who was in it Matt Adler is a buddy
00:59:48
of mine there okay uh Laird plays I
00:59:50
remember that oh he does Hamilton the
00:59:52
guy who pulls his leash he would have
00:59:54
drowned Laird Hamilton yeah he's a trip
00:59:55
He's the bad guy if he knew it was funny
00:59:57
not good so anyway so I auditioned for
00:59:59
Police Academy but when I get there they
01:00:01
go we're getting a new script and it's
01:00:03
not here yet and I go oh and they go
01:00:05
[ __ ] you're here do you want to just oh
01:00:08
perfect you want to just ad-lib stuff
01:00:10
well you're just a smart ass kid and
01:00:11
they weren't lines are so stiff anyway I
01:00:12
would have bomb so I just started making
01:00:14
up stuff that's good and it was so lucky
01:00:16
because they go oh he's not bad because
01:00:18
I was just free forming that's so much
01:00:21
so I get tired I go there I'm making so
01:00:23
much [ __ ] money
01:00:25
I think I'm thinking 2500 a week it's a
01:00:28
movie I was in a movie in Toronto and
01:00:30
then so you're a part of the skate gang
01:00:32
of Misfits and they go oh we're gonna
01:00:34
get and of course I knew the Bones
01:00:35
Brigade I knew everything from Arizona
01:00:36
and then they go this guy Tony Hawk I
01:00:39
think is Guerrero and Caballero and Mike
01:00:42
McGill and Lance Lance Mountain and so
01:00:44
they all came out and I was so excited
01:00:46
because they were wrong do you remember
01:00:47
your first impressions of David Spade
01:00:51
um I thought it was super funny yeah so
01:00:53
it was it was one of those things where
01:00:55
I got where you go oh you're you're
01:00:57
really funny you should be a comedian
01:00:58
that was lucky because you know Tony the
01:01:01
one problem we had was Tony he was
01:01:03
taller than me and he was uh were you
01:01:04
goofy regular foot I'm goofy-footed and
01:01:07
so we had Chris Miller well no can I
01:01:10
energize yeah go ahead so yes so we all
01:01:13
read for this that part oh is that right
01:01:16
we all read for the party oh that's
01:01:17
right oh okay or that you and uh though
01:01:19
who's the guy in Past Times yeah and
01:01:21
Backer so we all read for those parts as
01:01:23
the Bones Brigade and they're like yeah
01:01:25
you guys are not actors but you know
01:01:26
we'll we'll consider you in the gang or
01:01:28
whatever okay and then they I didn't
01:01:30
know that they singled out when they
01:01:32
hired you guys they sing it out Lance
01:01:34
and me as the doubles yeah I went
01:01:36
through a growth spurt from the time we
01:01:39
tried out to the time we got there
01:01:41
really and so for the first week they
01:01:44
were like I think that guy's Too Tall
01:01:46
and I remember the director saying like
01:01:48
you know he's a pretty good skater but
01:01:49
he's a bad stunt double and so then
01:01:52
Stacy kept telling me like oh Crouch
01:01:55
stay low what's Daisy problem yeah and I
01:01:57
go I I don't know I'm just trying I was
01:02:00
trying and then and then they just
01:02:01
quietly sent me home
01:02:03
basically I got fired oh and then they
01:02:06
sent in Chris Miller who looks like he
01:02:09
looks a little more and is is the same
01:02:11
stance as well you're you're I'm goofy
01:02:13
but he was closer it was a tough
01:02:15
decision because you're goofy you're
01:02:18
sorry what is goofy goofy oh that means
01:02:21
he stands he stands with his right foot
01:02:22
forward so do I and that's called goofy
01:02:24
yeah and left foot is called regular
01:02:26
regular okay and so when I got hired you
01:02:29
remember that was that was part of the
01:02:30
thing it was like oh you're goofy-footed
01:02:31
too that's what David does so I went so
01:02:33
and long story short they sent in Chris
01:02:36
Miller who looks more like him but his
01:02:37
regular footed oh okay so in the in the
01:02:40
skate sequence his stance keeps changing
01:02:43
it's so crazy wow I'm gonna watch this
01:02:45
professional by the way but you had a
01:02:48
legit skate part like going through the
01:02:50
mall I could skate I could skate and
01:02:52
then when I go one time I go uh
01:02:54
brianbacker could not skate he was uh he
01:02:57
was very much against it
01:02:59
yeah to the point where he's making us
01:03:01
very uncomfortable as part of the movie
01:03:03
or he just didn't want to even pretend
01:03:06
and they needed establishing shots of
01:03:08
him skiing okay even if they had to pull
01:03:10
him on something he didn't want to be
01:03:12
yeah but at one point they did try to
01:03:13
get him on a skateboard and he was very
01:03:15
upset about it he was kind of
01:03:16
complaining to us and we're like we just
01:03:17
work here yeah but we can help you
01:03:21
Stacy Peralta was a great skater and a
01:03:23
great director and one of his bosses
01:03:25
because he's from pal Peralta Bones
01:03:27
Brigade yeah I mean he's the one who put
01:03:29
us together and he was the one who got
01:03:31
us the audition and he did second unit
01:03:33
yeah he's so he directed us in a lot of
01:03:36
those skate scenes if not all of them
01:03:37
and one time I go Stacy he goes you can
01:03:39
skate a little bit right I go yeah yeah
01:03:40
I go listen on this one I'm at a pink
01:03:42
bone this year didn't I yeah and I go uh
01:03:45
we're just we're just rolling through
01:03:46
the city at night so I go out and then
01:03:48
they go you go over these steps like
01:03:49
what is it five steps like I can do that
01:03:51
and he goes okay so I could do five
01:03:54
steps
01:03:55
seven out of ten times so but when the
01:03:58
pressure so they're all behind me I
01:04:00
don't know if you remember this anyway
01:04:01
I'm in front making noises we Loop later
01:04:04
and then we go in and I do the first
01:04:06
steps and I [ __ ] wipe out and then
01:04:08
everyone has to wipe out on top of me
01:04:10
because they're all like two feet behind
01:04:11
me oh yeah there was no so there's the
01:04:13
camera rolling there's nothing yeah
01:04:18
and they use that no I think they oh
01:04:20
disco Tony just do it
01:04:22
and then we need to get one right as a
01:04:25
stunt double yeah five five steps was it
01:04:28
nothing for you that uh not nothing but
01:04:30
it was yeah it seemed to be a lot
01:04:34
yeah but what we learned in in that
01:04:37
shoot is we learned about stunt bumps
01:04:39
and we didn't know anything about that
01:04:41
so if we pretended like something was
01:04:44
really hard
01:04:45
you did jump a police car you're talking
01:04:48
about two stairs are you nuts boy I've
01:04:51
got a fee for that one man yeah I got it
01:04:53
there was one it was the um when we
01:04:55
jumped the fountain okay I don't think
01:04:56
you were there for that one but we we
01:04:58
jumped a fountain they set up this big
01:04:59
ramp and and it just was so janky the
01:05:02
whole thing and the landing Zone was
01:05:04
terrible and we were just sitting there
01:05:06
sweating it and they're like we'll give
01:05:07
you each 500 bucks to do this we're like
01:05:09
what oh yeah oh oh the ramp got a lot
01:05:13
yeah every time
01:05:15
and that's when we learned that
01:05:17
interesting yeah stunt doubles I've been
01:05:20
next to guys that were about to take a
01:05:22
car did on my behalf talking to him how
01:05:25
you doing pretty good and they never
01:05:27
they never say they won't go again
01:05:28
because they get another I guess they
01:05:30
get more money chunk yeah yeah so every
01:05:32
take they do it they get a bump right
01:05:34
right yeah there's only one time I had a
01:05:36
stunt man tap out and I took over can
01:05:39
you take over what was it weird well it
01:05:42
was going inside this big vat of goo
01:05:44
big wooden thing and Anthony Hopkins was
01:05:47
the dad he was there and he's supposed
01:05:49
to go under it and then it's the goo
01:05:52
fills everything and I guess a little
01:05:55
claustrophobia the guy was a great stunt
01:05:57
man but just got him shook up so I did
01:06:00
it you did it yeah I got underneath the
01:06:03
thing oh [ __ ] I'm a little guy I can't
01:06:05
skate I can't do anything but I'll stay
01:06:07
on this [ __ ] good I come up from the
01:06:10
goo and there's Anthony Hopkins or Tony
01:06:12
as I call him or hoppy we were close
01:06:14
anyway he's playing my dad so anyway
01:06:19
um I have questions yeah give him a
01:06:20
question I I just we do this sometimes
01:06:22
for fun let's see what I got here
01:06:27
[Music]
01:06:29
I I do want to say though to end that I
01:06:31
get asked about that all the time I do
01:06:34
too all the time oh yeah please get on
01:06:36
before it is kind of but it's always one
01:06:37
of those comedies of the 80s everybody
01:06:39
knows from then on we stayed friends he
01:06:41
would always give me a board he would
01:06:43
always if I asked for something uh we
01:06:44
went and skated Miguel's ramp once so
01:06:46
which I was not good at and uh I'm so
01:06:49
brittle that I can't believe you still
01:06:50
will will risk falling because every
01:06:52
time I fall it really rocks me
01:06:55
um I I think I I got accustomed to the
01:06:58
slight Pains of skating but now as I
01:07:00
grow older things linger more but I do
01:07:03
find that if I stay active it's easier
01:07:06
because when I but Dana when I did that
01:07:08
thing with tiger I was comparing them
01:07:09
because they're both like the number one
01:07:10
in their field Tiger's so driven so we
01:07:14
played golf that night and he was
01:07:16
visibly hurt from his back operations he
01:07:18
wasn't he's super cool he's great he's
01:07:20
reading putts he was having fun but I
01:07:22
could tell he's in pain
01:07:23
I even asked him would you you think
01:07:25
he'll ever play golf again because he
01:07:26
just got an operation and I thought
01:07:27
maybe this is it why I asked him I don't
01:07:29
know that that next morning he gets in
01:07:31
the car wreck right so he crushes his
01:07:33
feet everything
01:07:35
he may never play again and he starts to
01:07:37
swing and within a year he he was better
01:07:41
than me within minutes I go there was a
01:07:43
while there where I was better than him
01:07:45
because he couldn't pick up a golf club
01:07:46
and then he goes I can kind of better
01:07:48
than you and I'm like what how is it
01:07:50
that I thought it was in years yeah and
01:07:52
and he's so good at it that once he can
01:07:54
just stand up on two feet he's like he's
01:07:56
playing on one leg now and he was also
01:07:59
made the cut and was doing bad stuff
01:08:02
like a week ago it's infuriating you
01:08:04
know
01:08:05
um have you ever been like upside down
01:08:07
on your skateboard and had the thought
01:08:09
in your head like this can't be good
01:08:12
or this isn't gonna go and well the the
01:08:15
first time I tried 900 yes in your brain
01:08:18
you went this isn't going to end well I
01:08:19
was like I don't know where I am when is
01:08:21
when am I going to hit the wall oh there
01:08:22
it is
01:08:23
have you ever been upside down your
01:08:25
skateboard and thought why did I ever
01:08:28
really did I ever really like this
01:08:36
I think the when I first came back to
01:08:39
the ramp after breaking my leg there was
01:08:41
a the moment of that have you ever been
01:08:43
upside down
01:08:45
the thought popped in your head David
01:08:47
Spade was really funny and he scanned me
01:08:49
for it he said almost every day have you
01:08:52
ever been upside down here skateboarding
01:08:53
on my IQ is 144 what the [ __ ] am I doing
01:08:57
ramming my style I had a BMX guy who was
01:09:01
who was Pro for a while Chris Duncan say
01:09:03
that to me that he was upside down once
01:09:05
and he said this can't end well like he
01:09:08
just knew he was out of sorts and also
01:09:11
you you and you just had anticipate that
01:09:13
hit and you're like I'm not I know that
01:09:15
I can't prepare for it this time so when
01:09:17
is it coming and please make it soon
01:09:19
have you ever gotten kind of an
01:09:22
endorphin high like distance Runners do
01:09:24
from skateboarding like a real Buzz oh
01:09:27
yeah all the time when you land
01:09:28
something great you're just like
01:09:30
anything that I land new to me okay it's
01:09:33
like new jokes for us no joke it's like
01:09:35
if you do a new joke at this stage of
01:09:37
the game
01:09:38
new joke
01:09:41
have you ever been on your skateboard
01:09:44
going fast had somebody else push a
01:09:46
skateboard five feet away next you and
01:09:48
tried to jump on that skateboard yeah uh
01:09:51
yeah that's not as amazing as you think
01:09:53
oh wow I thought you
01:09:56
thought I saw a guy on Instagram the
01:09:58
other day he hits like a bump and Escape
01:10:00
when they said he does a flip in there
01:10:01
I've seen that that's pretty yeah that's
01:10:03
pretty wild there's so many of the ways
01:10:05
I can go wrong okay has anyone ever used
01:10:06
the pun to you you're just skating by
01:10:08
has anyone ever said that to you you're
01:10:11
skating through life hey Tony
01:10:13
huh okay I'm just curious bye what makes
01:10:17
a prodigy
01:10:19
uh I guess it's determination I think I
01:10:22
think a lot of termination discipline
01:10:26
um and it's just I it's you know when
01:10:30
you see it
01:10:31
Mozart right JonBenet yeah all the big
01:10:34
ones
01:10:34
um the biggest mistake beginning
01:10:37
skateboarders make Tony Hawk
01:10:40
the biggest mistake beginners make
01:10:43
um
01:10:44
getting ahead of themselves skill wise
01:10:47
where they think that because they can
01:10:49
ride a skateboard that suddenly they can
01:10:50
do some big stunt a big set of stairs a
01:10:54
big handrail and they do not have all
01:10:57
the required elements to that and it
01:11:00
goes horribly because it looks good to
01:11:01
discouraged them it looks easy on
01:11:03
Instagram Dan yeah when you see someone
01:11:05
make a trick you don't realize they fell
01:11:06
30 times fill in the blank Tony Hawk is
01:11:10
you don't have to answer this
01:11:13
a skateboarder uh
01:11:16
uh husband a father
01:11:18
and a philanthropist okay David Spade is
01:11:24
sales
01:11:25
funniest skateboard yeah funny
01:11:27
skateboarding not so good to escape
01:11:29
board but incredibly funny no yeah
01:11:35
let's see do you think Evil Knievel
01:11:37
could have made some noise in the
01:11:39
skateboarding World noise uh
01:11:55
which one oh okay I know you've landed
01:11:59
the 900 and I'm just throwing this out
01:12:01
it's going on records it's going out all
01:12:03
over the world 1200.
01:12:06
uh Mishi Brusco uh a current Pro Skater
01:12:09
has done a 1260.
01:12:11
was he Young
01:12:13
is he really young uh Tom shot you're
01:12:15
thinking of Tom Sharp he did Tom sharty
01:12:17
the first 1080 he was very young oh yeah
01:12:18
yeah uh this is on a bigger ramp so more
01:12:21
air time people somehow think that's
01:12:23
easier I don't think that's a cheater
01:12:26
but uh no it's hard Brisco did 1260s so
01:12:29
he did three and a half
01:12:30
God dang uh I can't put that in my head
01:12:33
Brothers it's amazing the humans just
01:12:36
want to keep it it's amazing if you look
01:12:39
that up find the clip it's worth
01:12:40
watching because in track and field in
01:12:42
Sprints it's like a hundredth of a
01:12:44
second world record by point oh oh one
01:12:47
no this is a full spin yeah that that is
01:12:51
extraordinary uh these these were just
01:12:53
random ones like fear where does Fear
01:12:55
come into it and how do you deal with it
01:12:57
right before you go on off you want to
01:12:59
be in an attack mode or uh I treat fear
01:13:03
in more that I feel confident that I
01:13:06
have the skills to do this the
01:13:08
preparation hope this works hope I can
01:13:12
land it yeah I don't know what's gonna
01:13:13
happen it's more like I have all the
01:13:15
pieces to this let's put them together
01:13:17
and and I approach it with more
01:13:19
confidence than
01:13:20
that's a fear yeah have you ever done a
01:13:23
rope swing into a lake and you were the
01:13:25
kid who would do like all kinds of
01:13:27
triple somersaults I would no but I was
01:13:29
little I would go off the high dive
01:13:31
did you have vertigo at all did you look
01:13:33
down and go
01:13:35
um yeah but I I think I just knowing
01:13:38
that other people have done it yeah
01:13:39
seems like you would have been a good
01:13:41
high school diver probably with this
01:13:43
sort of I don't think I'd be that
01:13:44
accurate
01:13:45
um you know what I mean like I'm down to
01:13:47
do flips but I don't want to pencil in
01:13:49
and yeah yeah you
01:13:52
know I'm gonna make it look like a hyena
01:13:56
uh I just asked people this anyway did
01:13:58
you as a kid movie or television show
01:14:01
blow your mind make you happy
01:14:05
um
01:14:06
um shoot for Ben Stiller it was The
01:14:08
Poseidon Adventure yeah I was getting
01:14:10
that's a good example
01:14:11
for me it was Jason the Argonauts oh for
01:14:15
a for a TV show or those are movies TV
01:14:19
show would have been a little house in
01:14:20
their prairie that's Dave's favorite
01:14:21
yeah I did like I like it he's a huge
01:14:24
Michael Landon fan has this once Mary
01:14:26
got blind I was like she couldn't
01:14:27
realize I'm a six yeah that's a good
01:14:30
question that's all right you can pass I
01:14:33
think I I really I enjoyed Greatest
01:14:36
American Hero
01:14:46
okay that makes sense my favorite movie
01:14:49
in the back of the day was fast times
01:14:59
yeah great tasty waves yeah that that
01:15:02
was that was a big comedy I got to
01:15:05
actually clarify a a line from Fast
01:15:08
Times with Sean Penn's that was a big
01:15:09
deal you did well it's coming of age
01:15:11
what was it uh people think he says all
01:15:14
I need are uh tasty is a cool buzz and
01:15:18
tasty waves he said cool buds yes yeah
01:15:20
and that's how I heard it yeah I got to
01:15:23
clarify it with him and that he thought
01:15:25
he said Buzz no he said buds people
01:15:27
think people think he says
01:15:29
right I remember that line and it was
01:15:31
buds yeah
01:15:33
um well Tony Tony thank you for talking
01:15:35
about SNL uh for an hour with us well no
01:15:38
that's Part B we'll talk Tony's audition
01:15:41
for SNL he skates on to eight H Lawrence
01:15:44
like what do you have it's good 13
01:15:47
million I I gotta say it it was a dream
01:15:50
come true true and it only happened
01:15:52
recently and I was so thankful and you
01:15:56
came out and did a cameo what did you do
01:15:58
so I was I was here in La doing podcast
01:16:01
doing our podcast Hawk versus wolf Hawk
01:16:03
was Hawk versus wolves wherever you can
01:16:06
find podcasts and it's also on YouTube
01:16:08
yeah yes Hawk versus and so I was I was
01:16:11
staying here doing this for a couple
01:16:13
days in the studio in Santa Monica
01:16:14
driving back to my hotel it's like 6 p.m
01:16:17
and I get a call and they said hey can
01:16:19
you make it to New York by tomorrow
01:16:22
night uh they wrote you into a skit on
01:16:24
SNL it's Thursday
01:16:27
yes I can do that that's for sure went
01:16:31
stayed there went went did my podcast
01:16:34
with with uh Seth Rogen and went
01:16:36
straight to LAX I live in San Diego I'm
01:16:40
not even prepared to travel at all right
01:16:41
she just and went there bought a jacket
01:16:44
upon landing and uh they had written me
01:16:48
in a script literally all I was going to
01:16:50
do was say my name
01:16:54
sure whatever it takes it was it was a
01:16:57
skit about the you know that whole thing
01:16:58
went viral with the Miss Universe France
01:17:01
yeah
01:17:02
so you're in that yeah it's all right I
01:17:04
was going to be one of the judges of
01:17:06
that pageant with the property brothers
01:17:07
and when it came to me to ask who won I
01:17:11
just say my name and honestly when I saw
01:17:14
the script I thought this is this is it
01:17:16
I'm flying out here this is a long way
01:17:18
but also like this is my big break to
01:17:20
SNL yeah is that I get to and then they
01:17:23
loved it in the rehearsal so much that
01:17:25
they added a line for me
01:17:29
um we're out into line for you Tony
01:17:30
it'll be on the cards did you say Lauren
01:17:33
so do I have the it quality should I
01:17:35
stay and be a castle I did get to at the
01:17:38
after party I got to actually sit with
01:17:40
him for a few minutes
01:17:44
he just says really interesting stuff
01:17:47
all the time Tony's like I know who you
01:17:48
are ah yeah he would be that yes he
01:17:52
would be very very yeah I I know success
01:17:54
when I see it David Dana didn't ought to
01:17:58
monetize but Tony did
01:18:05
um uh just to sum up yeah your podcast
01:18:08
is great thank you and um all your
01:18:11
business Endeavors and I think this will
01:18:13
be an inspiring episode and it doesn't
01:18:14
matter what your passion is you just
01:18:17
have to apply yourself and focus I
01:18:20
always say to people look at your feet
01:18:21
don't look at the fame the money just
01:18:24
look at your feet literally with skaters
01:18:26
yeah but just like am I better today
01:18:28
than I was yesterday and what can I do
01:18:30
to get better no matter what you're
01:18:32
trying to do that's what I take away
01:18:34
David your takeaway is same thing
01:18:36
I know what he said all right Tony
01:18:39
talking to Tony it's good he's a
01:18:41
philanthropist as a skatepark uh builds
01:18:43
them and yeah
01:18:45
the skate park project oh that's right
01:18:48
safe skate park so that we help finances
01:18:52
uh parks in underserved areas yes yes
01:18:54
that's great going for 20 years now
01:18:59
you make them better I don't understand
01:19:02
all right
01:19:05
Tony Hawk everybody
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