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guys Maya Rudolph's on the show today
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who we love Dan is munching I I got to
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go to Hawaii with Maya when her Pearl
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was just squirted out literally I cut
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the cord on the plane and then we had
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fun there and then I saw them she and
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PTA were there during uh wrong Missy at
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the beginning they were just there in
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Hawaii so we got to see him but she's
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always obviously a super talent and uh
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now I have now a story if you Dana
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before you talk I'm just thinking about
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the umbilical cord because I cut the
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umbilical cord of her no of my own wife
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dummy and how'd it go well they give you
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gloves that are the exact same color of
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the umbilical cord so my two fingers
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down there and I've got scissors is this
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like three
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umbilical cords three little hot dogs
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three umbilical cords I'm like when I
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went I didn't know if I was gonna get it
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on my finger yeah and then you get the
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bill you go hey you didn't knock off
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anything for uh my work so news flash
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how about bright red gloves for the guy
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cutting the umbilical cord so he can do
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it for any what color isn't it could the
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audience wants to know oh I don't know
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we'll let Maya his answer we talk about
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that oh yeah we get into that also I
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want to tell Dana that you know when
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you're on SNL we didn't get to this with
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Maya but you know Lauren sometimes
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we'll call you out of the blue now I'm
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lower on the totem pole this guy was
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more of a journeyman but this but Lauren
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calls me out of the blue maybe two three
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years in
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they go Lauren's calling I go I'm back
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in La I go yeah hello
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and he goes David
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uh Lauren yes the girl told me and then
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he goes David uh Mick Jagger is doing
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something for something and uh he has to
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give like a little monologue speech do
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you think you'd have any um ideas or I
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think you'd be someone who knows music
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you could throw on something I go I
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don't know when's he doing it and uh
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what is it now here hello
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he puts Mick on oh and I go oh hello
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hello
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yeah he goes oh I need some [ __ ] rib
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ticklers all we need a pun or something
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I know his joke for me don't give me
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your [ __ ] regular dog [ __ ] I've seen
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in there yeah give me the good stuff top
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shelf so I sat there and tried to pitch
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some [ __ ] [ __ ] all the jokes for
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yourself give it to me or Mick Jagger
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maybe put a little wiggle wiggle in it
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it fold
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he goes I can wiggle wiggle like oh you
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should do the tick tock oh God hips
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against moving sway side to side I'm not
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doing it
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not even close to Mick Jagger but uh it
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was just to say that we were talking
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earlier about that like it's sort of
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interesting that first of all Lauren has
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all these big deal friends and then when
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you get pulled into the mix
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suddenly I'm on the phone he just puts
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them on you talk and then mix mix almost
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nervous pitch me ideas because to anyone
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else to a comedian he doesn't want to
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know what level Amy just heard I was a
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writer you know he goes this he might
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write some good jokes so he's kind of
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going what about this what about this
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and I'm saying this anyway he won't
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remember so don't ask him because he'll
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deny it but uh and because it didn't
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happen but
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Maya Rudolph is a uh I was going to tell
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Mike oh yeah oh Dana hold for Keith
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Richards he's gonna do the monologue hi
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Keith I don't even know if I have
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anything that's all right bro
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that's mine Lauren then it got worse
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over the years hold for Hanson
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[Laughter]
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hey Dana it's Kelsey Grammer if you
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don't if you can't do an impression
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young people just say the name of the
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person
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hold for Oracle yeah one more name
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charcoal that Circle well I'm not cool
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boys
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[Music]
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14 hours doing these anyway my Rudolph
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we love her she sings uh she dances she
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does all these great characters she's
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doing her show right now called go loot
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root two Billboards on Sunset and we get
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into that uh everyone loves Maya is uh a
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show that I'm gonna pitch to her all the
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women I know in my life love mine she's
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she's like someone who you would if you
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if you like someone if you sat down for
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lunch you'd be like really really happy
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exactly that was Lauren talking about
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Maya Maya
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that little Squadron uh is a is a is a
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hit so and she she will one thing I
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stood out for me is just talking about
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uh doesn't have time for fools or or
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jerks or angry people that's right wants
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to enjoy her work so anyway it's a very
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very cool interview I would really enjoy
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hanging out with her here she is
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[Music]
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did you did you hear the lightning did
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you hear the lightning what lightning oh
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we had a lot of lightning with power
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outages all kinds of stuff are you in LA
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I'm in L.A yeah I'm in David's third
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place
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lightning in L.A you know West Hollywood
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just everything went out
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the hell yeah this is where this goes
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out to the world so my my address is if
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you'd like it's at the corner of it's
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usually unlocked Maya Rudolph is our
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guest today
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I'm in New York's Spady what's going on
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there why do you have to be there well I
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come here for I come here for the fun
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you know I come here for the fun well
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you're never not working so what would
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you be working nice one I came to do uh
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Fallon and hey
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that's Fallon that's uh and I did it for
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Jimmy and he loves it
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uh my my uh Apple show loot is coming
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out on Friday so I'm promoting it this
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time
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on Apple you do a lot of shows I like
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all your shows if you're with Fred
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you're with friends you're you know
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you're at Camp you're by the lake with
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all the ladies and now you're who's in
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loot with you yeah loot is she gets 82
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billion dollars 87 87 billion dollars uh
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and then she gets she finds out she's in
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charge of a charity that she wasn't
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quite aware of a foundation
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it makes it seem like he was very good
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at his book reports I'm watching after
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this is my book report struggling
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through in front of the class then
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you're married these aren't spoilers
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they're in the trailer you your husband
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cheats on you and you get money but you
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don't really know what to do with your
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life because you sort of live a uh you
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know I like it it's it's the reverse Meg
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Markle story
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I'm playing Meg Markle
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so then she you're trying to help the
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world and also help yourself Spade that
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was lovely thank you so much for sharing
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with the club that was great what did I
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get a B you've got an A for effort
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but I see loot Billboards and I go oh
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there's Maya of course one million
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things she does because she's just the
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most in-demand act we're gonna call you
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the busiest actress she really is and
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you know why because she adds to
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everything so if you throw her in no
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matter what the lead any part she scores
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and uh it's just more about her picking
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and deciding she seems to be very good
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at whatever she does I'm just gonna
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observe that you can disagree uh but
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you seem to be excellent Dana I I just
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want to hear you uh that's really nice
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to hear you say I know Spade loves me
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but Dana you already know I love you so
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it's very exciting of course you say
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that every interaction I've had with you
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has been positive over the years at SNL
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at Largo you just you're just cool I
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don't know but you know what you
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actually I know it sounds like kind of
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trivial but that's actually a very big
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element for me is like if it's not
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positive I'm not interested yes I think
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even yes during the Great reset and
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after the pandemic I'm not into
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negativity I just want positivity
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for that like I noticed that I was the
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Dork that like when people would say
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like who's your favorite host on SNL
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like who's your favorite I would always
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say like I was such a sucker I was like
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well so and so was really nice you know
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like if someone was really nice I'd like
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them like I didn't even care really they
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were funny but like they were difficult
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or you know if they were like a kind
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person I was like you know what they
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were really great I really enjoyed that
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I think I hosted I think it was Jimmy's
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fourth show did you come in with Jimmy
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Fallon or you were earlier Jimmy you
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hosted once when I was there though yeah
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and I remember hanging out with you in
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the bleachers in 8h and you just turned
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to me and you said you're nice you're
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really you're really nice you know like
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you're kind of yeah something like that
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I guess to you I it's like a it's a real
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comedy turn on for me I really like it I
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don't like when people are mean or
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snarky it's not um
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it's not enjoyable for me it makes my
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butthole tight in a bad way yeah yeah I
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have the same when you do work as much
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as we all do different things I think
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we've all been in a situation where
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you're on a show or you're somewhere
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where you're kind of stuck like a movie
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or a show and you know it's gonna be
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days and you realize because you never
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meet anyone really until maybe a read
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through or on the set and if you get a
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weird vibe you're like oh my God is this
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this [ __ ] gonna be like this the whole
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time I'll be on eggshells so you try to
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work with people and people go why do
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you do movies with people you know or
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it's just such a simple answer because
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you know what you're getting you know
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they're already cool or you wouldn't do
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it again and I also feel like I'm not as
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funny on my own because I'm I'm sketch
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lady I'm not a stand-up so I prefer
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um a team sport and I like I feel
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funnier when I'm with people that make
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me laugh so I I feed off of that energy
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so I need to be like genuinely enjoying
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myself or it's a real Downer for me I
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don't I totally agree yeah I'm
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completely with you and I feel like I
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was a sketch player organically but I
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became a stand-up there wasn't any
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improv troops in San Francisco at the
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time that I would join but with David or
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you or anyone yeah it gets you going and
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I
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uh I think that joyfulness maybe is
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underrated and you know there's certain
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camps that like if it's frustrating or
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people are angry it's going to be a
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better project but I just think Joy wins
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yeah I don't want to be like
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you know Mickey Rourke and uh what's her
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name nine and a half weeks making nine
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and a half weeks like did he carry Otis
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or something didn't he like eat a raw
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onion before he kissed Kim basing her
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like meat like I heard crazy that's my
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trick
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that's how you that's how you lure him
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in I share a raw onion with my wife
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after lovey-dovey time and that's just a
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piccadillo that we have what about Maya
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have you ever been in this situation
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where well you're two things you're from
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I think Groundlings and when you're from
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that collaborative fun and you get to
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ask now I think people we've talked to
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because Dana and I are Dopey stand-ups
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but it's less of a harsh transition than
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it was for us because yeah yeah it
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doesn't mean we're not collaborative it
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just that's not what we're doing every
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second absolutely and you guys get there
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and it's a little smoother well it's a
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little mini SNL right yeah yeah and then
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you bring your sketches is fully formed
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to the show I assume in the early days
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of the show yeah I mean I tried to bring
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grounding sketches there early on and I
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and uh that that um
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LED with the resounding thud and
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attitude but
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what I learned is that like you know it
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it it it's you have to write for the
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room so like once I learned how to take
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those pieces like if there was a
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character that I really liked or or a
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premise that I really liked and make
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them work for that room because every
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room is different so
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um are you saying the read through room
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or 8h I guess I guess
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both yeah but you're making a good point
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that I hadn't thought about well you
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have to get past that read through room
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which is pretty awake I never wrote to
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like you know just right for the table
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so that I'd get it in like I guess it
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was for both but like you have to be
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laughing at the table or else yeah you
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try to write for people at home but
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that's not the politics of it and that
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is the first time someone said Dana had
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a good point by the way that was very
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very nice too uh I I think also which
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we've talked about but it's very
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interesting to me is that you don't
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wanna
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be too theatrical in the read through
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room it can come off like a turn off or
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kind of sweaty but sometimes you have to
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get up and sing a song or move around to
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show the room but everyone's from
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Harvard and Yale kind of everyone is
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like super smart and they can see her
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pushing too hard there's a whole energy
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to that and then 8h is its own Monster
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uh or beautiful place depending on how
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you're doing wait do you think go ahead
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you go with mine go ahead no no go ahead
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mine was more of a large uh question I
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like big big questions people like what
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we don't let the guests talk
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[Music]
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um when I I my question was if you're if
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you have a growling sketch and people
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are aware of it is there sort of a stink
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on it where they're against it a little
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bit when you bring it in or do you just
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like when they brought in their sketches
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that were red when I was there where I
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didn't know and and it gets it's almost
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gets more of a fair shot if they don't
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know anything I would say probably I
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think it depends I mean I'm trying to
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unlock my my memory
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capabilities of 20 [ __ ] years ago
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I don't know 70 for me and Dana that's
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the most honest answer we've ever had on
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the podcast
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I was just going to say just in general
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is like uh just a an excited
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um acknowledgment of like it's you know
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I mean I've talked to you guys about us
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now before it's kind of all I ever want
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to talk about with people that know well
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I find it the most continuously
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fascinating topic but it's so
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interesting to me to talk to other
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people that were there at a different
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time because we're we're we're of the
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same fraternity sorority College
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University whatever it is for everybody
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but we were there at different times so
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we were there in different eras so like
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Dana I I might have told you this but I
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think I found one of your sketches in my
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old desk in my office and I think it was
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on a yellow legal pad I'm not kidding
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that would be normal yeah but I wonder
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how you got a hold of it unless I
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cleared out maybe you were in my office
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I got an old desk that I thought oh okay
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and it was in there oh
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man and I think I saved it I'm saving it
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for like Sotheby's or something that's
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interesting oh it's so interesting I
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mean the history is so interesting to me
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because it was such a like
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exciting place to get to and then once I
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got there all the people that I loved
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already had like touched it so it was so
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exciting and like I mean when I got
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there we were all using those um they
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were still using Mac SE 30s you know it
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was like I think it's like the computer
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you know college but like that was when
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we had a server but like you weren't
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using a server when you were there oh no
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it was all pencil and paper and then
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you'd handed in someone else would type
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we had those Mad Men girls there was
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four girls in room honestly just typing
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and you'd put your sketch in the pile
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and they'd write their name on the top
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so you know who typed it and you go to
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Claire and say Claire did you do this
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can you even understand my writing and
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they sort of understood everyone's the
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way they wrote and I'd have to hand my
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sketch in Dana like let's say you write
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till two or three whatever on Tuesday
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night three I know I was a puss I'd hand
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it in this is why I wanted to go away
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two or three I was I left at eight a.m
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even when I had a baby
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oh well you won that one but between a
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badge of honor you stay late
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crazy listen let's not focus on the fact
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that I'm a cause of [ __ ] I handed my
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sketch and then I took a cab to the
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Upper West Side to go home and sleep for
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hours and then I'd come back in or
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especially if I didn't finish my sketch
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I'd come back in to hand it in or I'd
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come and they go can you tweak this and
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I'd come all the way back and then go
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all the way home and then come back for
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a read through that killed me
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yeah that was typing or that was so I'd
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hand it in freehand and they wouldn't
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understand it they'd have to be able to
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call me in the middle of the night and
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go can you explain what this arrow means
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and uh they go this sketch is garbage do
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you want us to finish it that was most
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of the calls we're halfway through it it
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looks like it's Gotta it kind of reeks
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already but you know Maya when you say
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that about
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what you found I had an old red binder I
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don't know if Dana you might have that
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it's hard red binder and it said SNL in
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the front like in a circle and then
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you'd put your your script in it if you
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wanted and the director had one and we
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the cast barely ever used it but I got
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home and found that when I moved
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recently and I found an old rundown you
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get the run down after dress and the
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rundown for air and it says cold open
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this this this and the times next to it
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or whatever and but bye was on it was
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the Helen Hunt show and so I saw all
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that and it was all these members each
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sketchy look even if it was a dress when
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you go oh that one got cut oh that one's
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good oh that got moved up on Air I
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remember very like a wash of memories
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hitting you like oh my God like right
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there I love it so Maya can I ask you a
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question yeah were you of the ilk of
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very meticulously organized with your
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binder and your office or were you more
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torn
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Controlled Chaos some were very neat and
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some were just like wild I I never had a
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binder I guess I was like the last
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generation I was like the beginning of
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that like computer generation but like
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yeah still innocent like we didn't have
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social media I think there were probably
00:18:55
like no forums so people would write
00:18:58
weird [ __ ] about us but other than that
00:19:00
like or fan mail yeah fan mail from jail
00:19:03
got a lot of fan mail from jail yeah
00:19:06
um that was the only family oh my God it
00:19:08
was like you and shario Terry are hot
00:19:11
yeah well that's scary
00:19:14
David got that a lot too
00:19:18
shario Terry nice
00:19:21
I got a lot of those a lot of those but
00:19:24
I uh I was I've never been an organized
00:19:29
person but I'm not I'm not like a like a
00:19:32
slob I'm not slovenly but I'm not
00:19:36
you know what I would say that I'm
00:19:38
probably being overly critical and to an
00:19:40
outsider I probably look organized
00:19:42
especially you do like the like the the
00:19:47
Emily Spivey and I shared an office for
00:19:50
the majority of the time that I was
00:19:51
there
00:19:52
so that was like a pretty consistent
00:19:54
office partner I had other partners but
00:19:57
I um but she and I had an office
00:19:59
together for the majority of time and
00:20:00
like we put posters on the wall and like
00:20:03
she had her desk I had mine we like
00:20:06
salvaged the couch that wasn't covered
00:20:08
in like the semen from the 70s you know
00:20:13
so in the 80s
00:20:16
but I had I can safely say had no action
00:20:19
in my office for the solid six years God
00:20:22
no not sure I'm from the I'm from a
00:20:25
fairly sober generation too like that's
00:20:28
the other thing that's funny like and
00:20:30
I'm sure people who knows people what
00:20:32
people were doing I mean I'm such a I'm
00:20:34
such a grandma but at a certain point I
00:20:36
was even pregnant when I was there so
00:20:38
like I you know I was I feel like in
00:20:41
general other than people going out to
00:20:43
drink like
00:20:45
I was a pretty like
00:20:48
I feel like the majority of people I was
00:20:49
especially the girls that I worked with
00:20:52
the women that I work with were like
00:20:53
good students you had a lot of strong
00:20:56
women um yeah like I just feel like we
00:20:58
were everyone was always like
00:21:01
in a tether about us but I just think
00:21:03
like we were all kind of similar in our
00:21:05
upbringing and like we were like good
00:21:07
daughters good students like Earnest
00:21:10
yeah and like we all like came from
00:21:12
sketch so we knew how to work with other
00:21:16
people
00:21:17
you know because I I'd heard other
00:21:19
rumors that like it was scary and like
00:21:21
competitive yeah and I just I don't work
00:21:23
that way and I also don't work well that
00:21:25
way like I would just if if it had been
00:21:27
that way for me like if I'd been there
00:21:29
at a different time I would not have I
00:21:30
don't think I would have survived
00:21:32
so who did you I mean it seemed like the
00:21:35
the pivot to like when Tina Fey
00:21:39
and then there was you and I don't know
00:21:41
what order and then there was Amy of
00:21:43
course and before that Anna got started
00:21:46
there were so many
00:21:48
strong uh funny women I don't it just
00:21:51
seemed to accelerate in terms of numbers
00:21:53
it was already accelerated because when
00:21:56
I got there Molly and Sherry and Anna
00:21:58
were still in the cast Crush you know it
00:22:01
was already it was already crushed City
00:22:03
yeah yeah was that hard or so many women
00:22:07
because sometimes like I think when I
00:22:08
was there it was a little less women in
00:22:10
Dana and that was a big problem like we
00:22:13
need more women we need more women for
00:22:14
the parts but the women that were there
00:22:16
got lots of Parts they were thrown in
00:22:17
everything I mean I think that I learned
00:22:19
the hard way that like because we were
00:22:21
all writing you know that like you have
00:22:23
to write your own stuff so it wasn't
00:22:25
hard if your stuff was strong and you
00:22:27
got it on but
00:22:28
to me it was more like I mean I look at
00:22:31
the show now and I'm like you have like
00:22:32
20 21 white guys like yeah yeah how can
00:22:37
anybody be on the show and get any air
00:22:39
time ever there should be and we've
00:22:41
talked to some people that have been
00:22:43
there quite a while and it's still a log
00:22:45
Jam
00:22:46
well now it's not just that it's a huge
00:22:48
cast and then it's also like for
00:22:51
four pre-tapes a week which I mean
00:22:54
God damn good I'd be dead yeah they do a
00:22:59
lot of yeah like you drive out to Long
00:23:00
Island at four in the morning you're
00:23:01
like wait this is a show week I can't do
00:23:03
anything else I can't I can't even
00:23:05
function and then it takes you away from
00:23:07
writing or something one time oh forget
00:23:10
it
00:23:16
I was doing
00:23:18
Coneheads Applause and um Coneheads was
00:23:22
sort of jury duty for all of us because
00:23:24
Lauren said it was a you know Paramount
00:23:27
everyone was in it and we all had a part
00:23:29
and then I had to do a pickup
00:23:32
so I had to do a pickup during a John
00:23:34
Goodman show and they go you fly out to
00:23:36
LA
00:23:37
you go to Disney Ranch
00:23:40
yeah you fly out in a red eye you wake
00:23:43
up you shoot at Disney Ranch all day and
00:23:46
then you're gonna miss Friday or
00:23:47
Thursday or somewhere you come in for
00:23:49
the show you know okay and I'm so light
00:23:51
this show fine so I fly I fly on the on
00:23:55
the uh red eye the Letterman is in first
00:23:57
class this is another Side Story and he
00:23:59
goes and I don't I don't know a lot of
00:24:01
them and I've only done the show Once so
00:24:02
I'm totally in awe and they go to me uh
00:24:06
the students goes should I wake you for
00:24:08
honey buns and I go no no I'm gonna
00:24:10
sleep and then yeah
00:24:13
wake up I'm more confounded by the honey
00:24:16
bun yeah so then Letterman gets up
00:24:19
they're taxing he gets up to go to the
00:24:20
bathroom at the last second and he stops
00:24:22
and puts his hand on my leg and goes
00:24:23
should I wake you for honey buns and uh
00:24:26
hi everyone's what airline I know
00:24:28
American and so America we go there and
00:24:31
I land I can't sleep I get up we drive
00:24:33
to Disney Ranch they grease my hair back
00:24:35
I do a couple of Crusher scenes whatever
00:24:37
killing these are other people you
00:24:39
destroy
00:24:40
and then I get all the way back home to
00:24:42
my dog [ __ ] apartment and this is you
00:24:45
know obviously like five or six I order
00:24:47
a Domino's on the way I land I take one
00:24:50
bit bite and Shoemaker calls and he goes
00:24:53
hey uh Lauren wants you back and I go oh
00:24:56
I'm well he doesn't but also I'm coming
00:24:59
tomorrow I just finished shooting
00:25:00
because he wants you about you got a car
00:25:02
out front you got to come back I go
00:25:04
you're out of your [ __ ] mind I gotta
00:25:06
go now like the Disney Ranch back to New
00:25:08
York oh back to New York I go I just got
00:25:11
home I gotta go to bed and I gotta get
00:25:12
up and then fly back can I ask Maya a
00:25:15
question about oh sorry finish your
00:25:16
thought dude Jesus
00:25:19
I got add what is Maya the guest or am I
00:25:22
I I'm just curious when um jumping
00:25:25
around here because you had this huge
00:25:28
Kamala Harris
00:25:30
thing you did that I think you did you
00:25:33
win an Emmy or I don't know you have a
00:25:34
lot of awards you have two Emmys and
00:25:37
nominations and things the only one
00:25:40
Emmys during quarantine so it feels like
00:25:42
it like during kovitz it feels like it
00:25:45
feels like a fever dream it seems like
00:25:47
you want to like you're counting down
00:25:49
the last five so you won for Kamala okay
00:25:51
I won you or Emmy during during uh
00:25:54
during during
00:25:56
four Emmys during lockdown and sorry two
00:26:00
during lockdown to the fall the [ __ ]
00:26:05
pandemics and Awards just kind of are
00:26:08
married
00:26:10
during the pandemic
00:26:15
and you're busy how were you I was just
00:26:17
to David's thing how were you flying
00:26:19
back and forth because at one point
00:26:21
Lauren called me before the start of
00:26:24
that political season
00:26:25
just out of the blue icon on a Thursday
00:26:28
we need you like yesterday you'll do
00:26:31
Biden
00:26:33
um and I hadn't even tried to do Biden I
00:26:35
hadn't even thought of doing Biden I had
00:26:36
to do something else so I didn't do it
00:26:38
and then Jim Carrey did his first he was
00:26:40
the first one to kind of Do it For That
00:26:42
season right it was Jim Carrey yeah but
00:26:45
then it's just for travel first besides
00:26:47
the creative part of it were you just
00:26:49
going back and forth or were you able to
00:26:52
stay in New York I was going back and
00:26:53
forth for the most part the week of the
00:26:55
election I stayed in New York but I was
00:26:58
going back and forth every weekend yeah
00:27:01
when would you come in for Friday and
00:27:03
Saturday or the whole week I would come
00:27:05
in for like Thursday or Friday yeah and
00:27:08
that was pretty pretty early
00:27:10
those pretty early days of um
00:27:13
covid and
00:27:15
like you know I I was I was very scared
00:27:19
so and I was also like scared about my
00:27:20
kids and I wasn't fascinated yet and we
00:27:23
didn't even know if they would get back
00:27:25
my kids would get vaccinated anytime
00:27:26
soon so
00:27:28
um I was pretty pretty uh nervous Nelly
00:27:31
about the whole thing and
00:27:33
um they were and it was really actually
00:27:35
quite comforting to be in 30 Rock
00:27:37
because I think like anything I mean I
00:27:40
experienced this having a baby and then
00:27:41
coming back to work which was like
00:27:43
anything familiar even if it's hard it's
00:27:46
more comforting so like being in that
00:27:48
building especially when there was a
00:27:51
global pandemic weirdly felt comforting
00:27:53
because it was so clear I knew where to
00:27:55
go feels normal it felt normal yeah and
00:27:58
so but that I say that to say like those
00:28:02
first shows were pretty gnarly in terms
00:28:04
of
00:28:06
um like cue cards were on um third the
00:28:10
third floor so we weren't really seeing
00:28:12
changes sometimes I think one of the
00:28:14
first shows we didn't see the changes
00:28:16
until we were on air and that
00:28:19
we don't know that was tough it is weird
00:28:23
but it's like you know like again to me
00:28:26
that like weird
00:28:28
you know like Rush that I get from that
00:28:32
place that's that is familiar was okay
00:28:35
and I knew it would be okay whereas like
00:28:38
I assumed somebody like Jim was like
00:28:40
what the [ __ ] are we doing like what's
00:28:43
going on this isn't this is madness
00:28:45
do you find that Lauren uh because I was
00:28:48
just thinking about his personality and
00:28:50
he is with his droll sense of humor he
00:28:53
is he's he never gets you know thrown
00:28:56
out I've only seen him just very calm
00:28:59
and I don't know what he said you first
00:29:00
came back but he must have said
00:29:01
something pithy to relax you and you you
00:29:05
do Kamala and you know I don't know just
00:29:07
that that Vibe is kind of comforting
00:29:08
part of this also his can I just say for
00:29:11
the record that you you've the best
00:29:14
Lauren I've ever heard whoa
00:29:17
um well I think it's very nice sorry I
00:29:21
put you on the spot no I can't do like
00:29:22
if I'm if I'm like old and like or if
00:29:25
I'm like in a bad Dana will you come
00:29:27
will you come talk to me like Lauren I
00:29:29
would talk to you like Lauren it's that
00:29:31
thing my you know you're like really
00:29:33
loved and it's it's it's sort of it's
00:29:35
like a Victory lap
00:29:38
just got like uh
00:29:40
calm down everywhere oh that's nice I
00:29:45
mean I I started doing it when I got
00:29:47
there after about four months and I
00:29:50
didn't know anyone else was doing it but
00:29:51
it was really uh which I've said before
00:29:53
in the Wednesday meeting picking the
00:29:56
sketches
00:29:57
you know some Sketchers off to the side
00:29:58
there's a big bulletin board and he
00:30:00
would say that was my first in oh I
00:30:03
still have no [ __ ] First Act and then
00:30:06
he would go in his private bathroom and
00:30:08
come back out and he'd say Whitney's
00:30:10
piece of the pig and the Goat anybody uh
00:30:13
I don't know anybody I liked it and then
00:30:15
Lauren would go I thought it was
00:30:17
breathtaking
00:30:18
so good
00:30:21
he's very popular on our show he gets
00:30:24
shinier and brighter as you get away
00:30:26
from the show and you're kind of more
00:30:28
aware of what he's having to balance
00:30:33
[Music]
00:30:35
who the character of Kamala Harris and
00:30:39
did you sometimes have a cup with a
00:30:41
straw in it there was a casual kind of
00:30:44
there's some kind of character you made
00:30:46
from come on yeah I think it was like a
00:30:48
like a mai tai or a daiquiri or so you
00:30:51
just a lot of type drink played her as
00:30:54
this character uh that was based on
00:30:57
Kamala which was sort of you it was
00:30:59
incredibly potent what you were doing
00:31:01
just super confident or how did you come
00:31:05
up with that you know I I first of all I
00:31:07
just want to say for the record that I
00:31:09
just met her for in person for the first
00:31:11
time ever and I don't know if you
00:31:14
experienced this playing
00:31:15
um political uh people like yeah they
00:31:19
would you know during the elections
00:31:21
everyone would come through the building
00:31:23
so you would get to cross paths with
00:31:25
sometimes with the people that you were
00:31:26
playing but I never I never got to do
00:31:28
that and then I just thought like well
00:31:30
I'll never meet her it's coveted and I
00:31:33
did just get to meter and then weirdly
00:31:34
like at a dinner then someone was asking
00:31:36
like how do you play her and I had to
00:31:39
like say it in front of her
00:31:41
humiliating although I realized I was
00:31:43
saying to her you know I'm not an
00:31:45
impressionist I've never been an
00:31:47
impressionist like I I think I do
00:31:49
impressions of people but I I think the
00:31:51
reason why her impression
00:31:53
is that way is because
00:31:56
Kamala is like um
00:31:59
she's she's I I'm fascinated by her like
00:32:03
again back to that thing that we were
00:32:05
talking about Dana like I've found the
00:32:08
joy in playing her in like the same way
00:32:11
I think
00:32:14
kids like dress up as like princesses or
00:32:17
like play like so you know yeah
00:32:20
um like like Luke Skywalker you know I
00:32:22
know my references are dated but you get
00:32:24
it like no but I I get this the sense of
00:32:26
fun I mean when you when I was watched
00:32:28
you watch Duke Kamala it's just like
00:32:30
Maya's having so much fun and it's
00:32:33
joyful and so it's hard it's you just
00:32:36
want to look at it you want more of it
00:32:37
yeah it's joyful and I and I actually
00:32:40
said that to her like I yeah I find her
00:32:43
to be joyful like she's a big Smiler
00:32:45
yeah she feels like she's got a lot of
00:32:48
joy in her she's laughing at things and
00:32:50
when she has to be serious tough Stern
00:32:54
anything she is and like it's it's
00:32:57
powerful she's so powerful and it's
00:33:00
really exciting so like all the things
00:33:02
that draw me to her were just like the
00:33:04
things that I was probably in the back
00:33:06
of my mind trying to emulate when you
00:33:08
see someone that's like exciting to your
00:33:10
fasting that's why like Beyonce's so fun
00:33:12
because like I want to be Beyonce I want
00:33:14
to play dress up like I want to be
00:33:17
her you know her stage Persona you know
00:33:20
yeah isn't it fun to play Confident
00:33:22
characters huh is it fun fun to play
00:33:25
Confident characters it's like you're
00:33:27
Long Island ladies with Amy like those
00:33:30
two are so crazy funny well that one is
00:33:33
Jody Mancuso who runs our hair
00:33:35
department at SNL like that that we
00:33:37
we're both oh you were doing her yeah
00:33:39
we're both young Jody
00:33:41
um and that's and that's the fun that's
00:33:42
like the fun game of it is like um
00:33:45
we're imitating Jody to for Jody and she
00:33:49
loves yeah so then we just keep going
00:33:52
also also you're playing gamala and and
00:33:55
some of these characters are not mean
00:33:56
Impressions so you're not it's more fun
00:33:58
when you see the people because
00:33:59
sometimes Impressions have a slight mean
00:34:02
streak just for the funny factor and you
00:34:05
don't realize when you see the person oh
00:34:07
I do exaggerate this or that and that
00:34:09
might not
00:34:10
yeah I mean look if they if I if I ended
00:34:13
up having to play like Trump or
00:34:15
something like there's no way I'd find
00:34:16
any Joy I I I mean I'm sure I'm sure I
00:34:23
would suggested roasting that mofo
00:34:27
um but yeah we're gonna do a lot of
00:34:30
things excuse me we're doing a lot of
00:34:31
good stuff let me tell you we're gonna
00:34:33
be you're gonna see a lot of stuff
00:34:35
you're going to be very happy I can tell
00:34:37
you that yeah stuff might be the word he
00:34:40
uses the most like if you were to tell
00:34:43
me that we were ever going to have
00:34:44
someone in a position of power using and
00:34:46
whose favorite River was stuff I'd be
00:34:49
scared
00:34:52
we're doing a lot of things
00:34:56
any any time you want to tell me what
00:34:58
those things are just right is very
00:35:00
general I don't I try to find a hook in
00:35:03
it I it's like it's like a song to me
00:35:06
and I don't I don't really Harbor in uh
00:35:11
teaching or making political points but
00:35:13
you could just do stuff and let the
00:35:15
audience decide but Trump's a funny
00:35:17
Rhythm Biden is also very interesting
00:35:19
now that he's gotten more animated and
00:35:21
he's louder because he was very whispery
00:35:24
and so yeah James it's on SNL right now
00:35:26
is doing both of them beautifully he's
00:35:29
he's incredible oh yeah yeah we did talk
00:35:32
to him we had him on the podcast and he
00:35:34
was unbelievable and it's like anything
00:35:36
like the minute you see someone do the
00:35:38
impression like oh that's what it is
00:35:39
yeah that's the most jealous hit when
00:35:42
you go oh my God it's an easy thing
00:35:45
I'll tap into it and we'll do it because
00:35:48
we heard him do it correctly like right
00:35:50
that's what it is it was cool too
00:35:52
because I remember during the pandemic
00:35:55
early days early stages of pandemic Amy
00:35:58
Poehler I think was really into his Tick
00:36:00
Tock and was sending him
00:36:02
to me and our friends saying like this
00:36:04
guy's I was too I sent my friends he was
00:36:06
walking down the street exactly and I go
00:36:08
it's so hard to riff he would talk about
00:36:11
anything and I go it's very hard without
00:36:13
a script because a script you you write
00:36:15
in your hooks you make sure you say
00:36:17
certain things because but when someone
00:36:19
has asked you a question and you have to
00:36:21
riff you can't always find your way back
00:36:23
to the funny parts you know he has the
00:36:25
language of trump and that when we we
00:36:28
did a live thing with James and then we
00:36:30
had the audience just suggest any movie
00:36:32
or TV show
00:36:33
you know and he would just go with it or
00:36:36
whatever it was As Trump in the language
00:36:38
of trump so yeah he would do Trump like
00:36:40
saying why it affected China and so
00:36:43
whatever you asked him he would get it
00:36:44
all the way back to that's why China's
00:36:46
the bad guys and it was so it was so
00:36:48
funny and then oh my God it was just a q
00:36:51
a is that the Hat I bought you this I
00:36:54
didn't even think of that I swear to God
00:36:56
I go I just put something you were doing
00:36:57
it to see if I would notice I didn't
00:37:00
mean to interrupt while you were talking
00:37:01
about Kamala but the sun was the light
00:37:03
was mine and I grabbed my hat and I go
00:37:05
wait a second didn't you get a minute is
00:37:10
a sweet little sweet little grown-ups
00:37:11
rap gift that's what it was I go you
00:37:14
gave it to all it was a grown-ups [ __ ] I
00:37:16
only bought you one gift once don't make
00:37:18
people think oh my God you know I get a
00:37:20
gift probably every week from Maya and
00:37:23
um that that was just so nice grown-ups
00:37:26
oh my God we're it's the least I can do
00:37:29
Dana it was literally the least she
00:37:31
could David needs a friend yeah needs a
00:37:34
friend and David needs a friend go ahead
00:37:35
David mine and our friends and we run
00:37:37
grown-ups which is keeping the lights on
00:37:38
at TBS uh it's on every day grown-ups
00:37:42
one and two yeah and uh
00:37:45
oh I had so much fun I don't even
00:37:47
realize until afterwards and then people
00:37:49
see it and they go is that fun I go yeah
00:37:50
it was even though some reviews were
00:37:52
like at least they had fun
00:37:55
I mean I feel like my memories of making
00:37:58
that movie well the first movie I was
00:37:59
pregnant so
00:38:01
um that was more like just keeping
00:38:04
myself intact but yeah like we did a lot
00:38:07
of eating together you're a very good
00:38:09
eating buddy a very good eater also you
00:38:12
were always fun on the show so if you're
00:38:14
walking on the set and you see Maya you
00:38:15
have to just walk over because she has
00:38:17
something to say about anything it's
00:38:18
just fun to talk to and then the next
00:38:20
one You're great and then I ran into you
00:38:23
in Hawaii when I was doing the wrong
00:38:24
Missy oh yeah
00:38:27
good old tiptoes I told Dana there's a
00:38:31
tattoo
00:38:32
name well my kids call him a tiptoes
00:38:36
because they tried to tell him a joke
00:38:39
and he couldn't figure it out yeah and
00:38:42
they and the joke goes like this Dana
00:38:44
what what
00:38:47
um begins with it begins with t and ends
00:38:50
with t and I said tiptoes and he said a
00:38:54
tiptoes and they were like a teapot like
00:38:58
yeah they laughed so hard at my answers
00:39:01
it was so [ __ ] horrible and then they
00:39:03
then they liked me after that because
00:39:05
they liked because I was stupid
00:39:06
ah yeah yeah look he's not so bright
00:39:11
that little yeah yeah but he's like a
00:39:14
kind of a fake Uncle you know and the
00:39:16
kids love him he's a Funko when I walked
00:39:18
away I heard one of them go mom there
00:39:20
you go why is he famous and you couldn't
00:39:22
answer I was like huh you know that's a
00:39:25
good question I don't know when you're
00:39:27
Frosted Mini wheat son
00:39:29
Maya what's the ba what's the questions
00:39:32
you've been asked the most when you go
00:39:34
on oh yeah what's the talk shows you
00:39:37
don't have to answer yourself what does
00:39:38
David Spade smell like yeah number one
00:39:42
uh honey I haven't done a lot of
00:39:45
podcasts it's P.S yeah you're a babe
00:39:47
because I'm only like I'm very selective
00:39:50
we're very flattered you're on this one
00:39:52
okay I'll do one like I you guys are a
00:39:56
people I um know like and adore and
00:40:00
worship
00:40:02
should I answer it I think it's kind of
00:40:05
hip if you do go ahead let's see and
00:40:20
uh-huh
00:40:21
Maya's on the phone right now she's in
00:40:24
Louisiana
00:40:25
the call is coming from inside the hotel
00:40:28
she says I don't know who that is
00:40:31
now she's walking she's terrified thank
00:40:33
you bye
00:40:35
it was it was Kamala Harris guys what is
00:40:39
she doing I knew it she was here to hang
00:40:42
out you know
00:40:44
um I learned it's Kamala by the way so
00:40:46
if you do meet her you have to you have
00:40:48
to pronounce that you put the emphasis
00:40:50
on the first a or else I don't know
00:40:52
almost like Pamela hot Pamela do that
00:40:57
that fruit we all pretend exists can I
00:41:01
there's two questions I'd like to get to
00:41:03
one is because I'm just curious when did
00:41:05
Little Maya
00:41:07
first have the dream of being a comedian
00:41:10
I.E Sketchbook because I know you have a
00:41:12
huge musical background but when did
00:41:14
that first hit you like I'm funny and
00:41:16
maybe I could be on TV I think I
00:41:19
fantasized about it very very very young
00:41:21
like seven six seven eight years maybe
00:41:24
even yeah yeah like do you see do you
00:41:26
see it in any of your kids your kids do
00:41:28
you see the bug in any of your kids I do
00:41:30
yeah and I'm sure in the same way that I
00:41:32
had it because
00:41:34
you know my parents being musicians they
00:41:36
were on the road so they were live
00:41:38
performers and then
00:41:40
there was like a great moment when as an
00:41:43
older person I I discovered a home movie
00:41:48
from like sometime we were on the road
00:41:50
with my parents me and my brother and
00:41:52
one of the Smothers Brothers was
00:41:54
teaching my brother how to yo-yo oh
00:41:57
Tommy Runners wow it was like my mom was
00:42:01
playing with the Smothers Brothers like
00:42:02
that was the combo and which is like of
00:42:04
course that makes sense that's like
00:42:06
music and comedy totally go together
00:42:08
yeah and I was little and impressionable
00:42:12
and that that was normal to me and
00:42:17
um so I think in that same way that like
00:42:19
that bug definitely
00:42:22
um gets in there and rubs off of it yeah
00:42:24
and then when did you first uh attempt
00:42:27
it was it grade school high school like
00:42:29
all schools
00:42:33
so you're gone
00:42:36
always wanted a beat but I you know I
00:42:39
think it took until fairly recently that
00:42:41
I realized like
00:42:42
like I was always like I'm an actor but
00:42:44
I'm actually really I'm a performer I
00:42:47
think I'm more of a I I think that my
00:42:50
true
00:42:52
Essence is a live performer I I can act
00:42:55
I can perform but like I'm much better
00:42:58
live I'm much better on a stage I'm much
00:43:01
happier I feel like it just is more
00:43:03
natural to me that way I feel like do
00:43:06
you have a problem well with film and
00:43:09
and those kinds of things it can that
00:43:11
you're fighting against you know we got
00:43:12
to do it again and we're taking a break
00:43:14
and the sun's coming up and if it's live
00:43:16
and the lights are on then it's just go
00:43:18
go so you can get lost more easily yeah
00:43:21
it's about like this angle seeing this
00:43:24
mold and this side of my nose and like
00:43:26
you want to pretend that you're not
00:43:28
noticing there's a camera right there
00:43:30
but there's a camera right there and
00:43:31
then it's like the sixth time you've
00:43:33
done it so it's like saying you know
00:43:34
it's like saying donut 20 times but yeah
00:43:37
time it sounds
00:43:40
Dana I read about these directors that
00:43:43
are great but and there's a lot of them
00:43:46
that this sounds so crazy but you know I
00:43:50
I get that you have to do some takes but
00:43:52
you read about these people that do 20
00:43:54
30 50. and yeah and in comedy I I guess
00:43:58
in some instances I just don't agree
00:44:00
with it just on my performing way
00:44:02
because I want it to matter every time
00:44:04
and I maybe I'm just not good enough for
00:44:06
you give it a thousand percent every
00:44:07
time I've been on sets where you know
00:44:09
the first ten they're not there's no
00:44:11
chance they're going to use them no
00:44:13
matter how good you do there's just a
00:44:15
thing where they're gonna go I have a
00:44:16
thing about we're going to go forever
00:44:18
and I worked with a guy once where they
00:44:19
go you want to go again and he goes yep
00:44:21
before anyone can say anything he'd go
00:44:23
yep and one time I pulled him aside and
00:44:25
I said hey man what's going on and he
00:44:28
goes oh if they ever ask me I'm never
00:44:30
going to say no and I go well you gotta
00:44:33
he goes I I just went on the chance at
00:44:35
it I go but that's a decision between
00:44:37
you and the director like the director
00:44:38
is ultimately gonna pick so you you have
00:44:42
no say in it you're just gonna go and go
00:44:44
and go and go and go I would say for me
00:44:46
personally like Larry Sanders yeah the
00:44:48
great late great Gary Shandling and then
00:44:51
Curb Your Enthusiasm like I've talked to
00:44:53
Jeff Garland about it and he says well
00:44:55
sometimes you don't know you're doing a
00:44:56
take
00:44:57
you know you don't even know what you're
00:44:59
doing to take you're just talking so you
00:45:01
could tell sometimes Richard Lewis and
00:45:03
Larry David are not really acting
00:45:05
anymore they're just riffing and the
00:45:07
camera's rolling and they're sort of
00:45:09
breaking so I do think with Comedians
00:45:11
and performers the directorial Styles
00:45:13
should sort of try to take advantage of
00:45:15
that if you're Daniel J Lewis and that's
00:45:17
wonderful because that is there is an
00:45:19
Essence there that is not you know it's
00:45:21
just far more contrived when you're
00:45:23
trying to make it seem natural and
00:45:25
that's so smart
00:45:28
Larry's a smart guy and yeah and and so
00:45:31
is Gary discovering it one the camera's
00:45:35
rolling as opposed to discovering it
00:45:37
before like Eastwood doesn't rehearse
00:45:39
much they kind of talk and let's get you
00:45:41
over there Woody Allen and I think just
00:45:44
trying to preserve that with it with a
00:45:45
certain kind of performer where it's
00:45:47
just you're discovering it right as
00:45:48
you're oh now I got it and the camera's
00:45:51
rolling as opposed to I got it now let's
00:45:53
go over there and shoot it again right
00:45:55
tricky that's why movies always sabotage
00:45:58
me except Wayne's World what we had a
00:46:00
lot of control Mike and I with in the
00:46:02
shooting was very simple and there was a
00:46:03
lot of so that was like just re-watched
00:46:06
it for the three millionth time with my
00:46:08
you did oh yeah of course I did I mean
00:46:13
Dana you're you're beautiful you're just
00:46:16
beautiful like everything
00:46:19
it's like watching Jordan
00:46:23
just play basketball it's a joke how
00:46:26
fantastic you are oh God I think I love
00:46:30
you but you are we're both married
00:46:32
um the I would say this about that
00:46:34
particular movie I look at Garth in
00:46:37
wannabe Garth right it should I want to
00:46:40
be I want to be him he's so loyal he's
00:46:42
so positive he worries about his friend
00:46:44
so yeah I'm like he's and he's in the
00:46:46
moment he's playful so yeah I want to be
00:46:48
Garth too but I feel like you can you
00:46:51
can if you really had to think about why
00:46:54
we love Garth so so much I think it's
00:46:56
like
00:46:57
you can kind of feel that you know and
00:47:00
there's something like it's the same way
00:47:02
that I felt about Saturday Night Live
00:47:03
when I was a kid my parents would watch
00:47:05
it and I would watch them watching it
00:47:07
and they were the age the people were on
00:47:09
the show and I was like oh that looks
00:47:11
fun it looks like they're having fun
00:47:12
with their friends and there was
00:47:15
something about it that I was attracted
00:47:16
to like I didn't know exactly what it
00:47:18
was but
00:47:20
it looked fun and my parents were kind
00:47:22
like I wasn't scared of my parents they
00:47:24
were like young cool people so something
00:47:27
about it felt familiar and it felt like
00:47:29
yeah they're cool people like friends
00:47:31
having fun is so seductive and and I've
00:47:34
mentioned this recently but David Crosby
00:47:36
one of the people from the 60s who saw
00:47:38
the Beatles fresh and he just says these
00:47:41
were guys having so much fun and
00:47:43
projecting so much joy and and dudes
00:47:46
hanging out that you're like you just I
00:47:48
want to do that I want to yeah with my
00:47:51
friends that's probably like if I had to
00:47:53
take away like the one
00:47:55
saying that when I always think about
00:47:57
like why did I want to do this or like
00:47:59
what was I interested in during when I
00:48:00
grew up all I remember thinking is I
00:48:02
want to do that so it would be like I'd
00:48:04
go to a concert and I'd like I'd look at
00:48:07
the person I'd be like I want to do that
00:48:08
and then I would see a movie and I was
00:48:10
like I want to do that like that was
00:48:12
really it's really like the only thing I
00:48:14
can connect to like I just wanted to be
00:48:17
like I want to pretend to be those
00:48:19
people was kind of how I felt so same
00:48:22
here and I was I've I wanted to do it
00:48:24
when I was nine I was too shy and had
00:48:26
such a a kind of a strange child but a
00:48:29
lot of people do a little rough and
00:48:30
David as well so I never pursued it
00:48:33
until later but it was always a secret
00:48:35
kind of desire to do that
00:48:40
[Music]
00:48:42
what about having fun forget I know we
00:48:45
got to wrap it up with bridesmaids you
00:48:47
couldn't look at more people having fun
00:48:48
in a movie It Whatever It just seems
00:48:51
like that's lightning in a box
00:48:55
right that was like that was the joy of
00:48:59
making that and like I think at a
00:49:01
certain point I remember us talking
00:49:03
about saying like I don't know if
00:49:05
anyone's gonna see this movie or like it
00:49:07
but I'm so glad we made it like we had
00:49:09
so much and that is also like the
00:49:12
essence of
00:49:13
people that know each other well you get
00:49:16
to so you get to experience that
00:49:19
chemistry and then you're all make
00:49:21
trying to make each other laugh
00:49:23
you know yeah that just was yeah that's
00:49:25
that's one of those movies that just
00:49:28
just uh made its Mark well well Luke I
00:49:31
gotta ask you two things about Luke Maya
00:49:33
Before I Let You Go you uh this is so I
00:49:35
don't know professional Spade I'm really
00:49:37
I know Spade is kind of today he is sort
00:49:40
of the boss man he is kind of take it
00:49:42
back
00:49:43
for this podcast I like my hair right
00:49:46
now it's the bestest hairs looked and uh
00:49:49
last night we had dinner and his hair
00:49:51
looked amazing and he was a little cocky
00:49:53
about it it still looks good next day
00:49:56
hair yeah he's very slept on like yeah
00:50:00
bad bad head look at I got a little PTA
00:50:03
beard coming in my eye you see that with
00:50:05
the girl mine is too look at that oh
00:50:06
yeah that's good and when you do loot
00:50:09
okay real quick Dana I'm gonna ask you
00:50:10
this because I wrote down her cast is we
00:50:13
we talked a little bit about at the
00:50:14
beginning I didn't give too much away I
00:50:16
just was watching kids which of course
00:50:18
she's dead you did a little homework
00:50:20
always funny to watch her in anything
00:50:22
but I like to see you really rich in it
00:50:25
um but you have Ron funches and Nat
00:50:28
facts and are the only ones I know in it
00:50:29
but that I know personally both great
00:50:32
both if they're in there they're gonna
00:50:33
score so if you get to play off them
00:50:36
it's all right Nat and I were in the
00:50:39
Groundlings together okay 20 plus years
00:50:42
ago so that's the that's the joy right
00:50:45
there I just fell in love with long
00:50:46
bunches
00:50:48
I love him he has his own own lane he's
00:50:52
got something yeah he's got a unique a
00:50:54
very interesting thing he does yeah
00:50:57
and funny yeah always quietly scoring
00:51:00
everything always quietly scoring and
00:51:02
it's just such a joy to watch it's like
00:51:06
hanging out with like a
00:51:07
the personality of like a human mochi
00:51:10
[Laughter]
00:51:14
like that description well loot should
00:51:17
be on now it's a written by was it the
00:51:18
parks and recs people that put it
00:51:20
together Alan Yang and Matt Hubbard okay
00:51:23
so that's that's sort of a vibe that
00:51:25
rolls through it
00:51:26
sort of a Vibe Spade it's like um you
00:51:30
know if you're like hanging out with
00:51:32
cool people and like drinking Brews and
00:51:35
yeah massaging each other's shoulders
00:51:37
yeah it's kind of like that that's it
00:51:39
that's where I like to be
00:51:41
that's what I'm doing that's the show
00:51:43
though that's the whole show we just
00:51:44
hang out and massage each other's
00:51:46
shoulders
00:51:47
it's pretty cool loot is a cool name
00:51:50
because I say Luke because I talk about
00:51:51
money all the time so I say loot a lot
00:51:53
and I rap it is very fun pretending to
00:51:56
be rich I do I I do think that that's
00:51:59
the lure of what um was exciting about
00:52:02
the show yeah that that that byline
00:52:06
makes me intrigued yeah just anyone
00:52:08
becoming a billionaire like what yeah
00:52:11
you're like what can't I do like the
00:52:15
possibilities are endless but then
00:52:17
instantly fall into like social
00:52:19
responsibility like uh oh should I
00:52:21
should I save the world
00:52:23
but one thing about our billionaires is
00:52:25
they seem to really really enjoy it like
00:52:28
they always say they're going to give it
00:52:29
all away but then their stock goes up so
00:52:31
we you know I gave away 30. I can yeah I
00:52:34
don't know if they can give it all away
00:52:36
and then they want to multiply it so
00:52:38
fast they just they give away I don't
00:52:40
think they they can yeah you know Warren
00:52:42
Buffett says he's gonna give away 99 but
00:52:44
then there's like a billion left
00:52:47
I know just laying I'm not gonna spoil
00:52:50
them I'm only leaving one person it's
00:52:52
like I mean you can have like a nice
00:52:54
place to live and all that and while
00:52:57
you're saving the world right you can
00:52:58
get some islands and
00:53:00
yeah Dennis Miller says that crimefield
00:53:03
all comes down to planes and paintings
00:53:06
okay that's the final frontier you want
00:53:09
that best gayat for about 200 mil you
00:53:13
got two g5s rotating going around the
00:53:16
world but yeah that is the The Chariot
00:53:18
of all to have a G6 that can travel
00:53:22
anywhere it just waits for you that's
00:53:24
the most decadent uh cool thing you
00:53:27
could you could have I'm working I think
00:53:28
as a toy about it right yeah space work
00:53:33
Spades I feel like I should do guards
00:53:35
for a second because of your okay go
00:53:37
ahead
00:53:38
Maya sure has been a good guess she
00:53:41
really knows how to say cool things oh
00:53:43
God oh my God
00:53:50
I'm full on excited right now I love it
00:53:55
I feel funny like when I used to climb
00:53:58
the rope and gym class damn it swing
00:54:01
indeed shrink
00:54:03
well Maya let me know you have a heart
00:54:06
attack
00:54:08
because of not because of you guys
00:54:10
because I gotta go do Fallon it's
00:54:12
Jimmy's fault well you know what I'm I'm
00:54:14
doing Jim Downey wrote that I'm on my
00:54:17
way to Santa Monica after this his
00:54:19
documentary yeah yeah when I was here
00:54:23
last time I'm doing that that's very
00:54:25
exciting and probably a a rich piece of
00:54:28
history that yes will be worth worth uh
00:54:32
being a part of it's nice when someone
00:54:34
gets their do the gym was this one of
00:54:37
the overarching people
00:54:41
oh that's tough you know something
00:54:43
something really funny about you know I
00:54:45
don't know he always stares at the scene
00:54:46
it just feels so precious there's
00:54:48
something there's a all right uh Maya
00:54:52
it's the downer
00:54:54
is that what he says yeah
00:54:56
I once called him and I'm gonna say
00:54:59
without exaggeration he talked for three
00:55:02
hours straight only once in a while
00:55:03
going am I talking too much and it was
00:55:07
it was absolutely fascinating we went
00:55:08
over global history U.S history he just
00:55:11
went everywhere and I've never met an
00:55:12
intellect he goes to the Yale library
00:55:14
and just gets big books and reads them
00:55:16
he's like this
00:55:18
Brainiac extraordinary
00:55:22
life we've lived that we've crossed
00:55:24
paths with some of these people and
00:55:27
minds and
00:55:29
um I'm also yes I'm also including both
00:55:32
of you it's pretty wild it's like it's
00:55:35
pretty wild to have had a job the job
00:55:37
that we all have in common
00:55:39
um provided us with this like
00:55:41
weekly changing thing so we really did
00:55:45
like sometimes I'll kind of think like
00:55:46
wow I did meet a lot of people in my 20s
00:55:49
30s like I've met people I've ever had I
00:55:52
worked with them for a week you know and
00:55:54
you forget I see people and they go I
00:55:56
hosted SNL when you were there I go oh
00:55:58
that's right like
00:55:59
even Michael Jordan I've been writing a
00:56:01
whole week with him ended to sketch them
00:56:02
and I'm like they go have you ever met
00:56:03
Michael Jordan I go I don't think so and
00:56:05
I go no you did you did you did the
00:56:07
whole show with him because it's sort of
00:56:10
just work and you just try to stay out
00:56:11
of their face and you just try to keep
00:56:13
everything respectful and you feel yeah
00:56:15
I would always get kind of nervous when
00:56:16
the host was the host or in the early
00:56:18
days was down in the offices and they'd
00:56:20
go would you like to go yeah Charlton
00:56:23
Heston would like to say hello to you
00:56:25
and then you're walking down there and
00:56:27
you open the door and then there's
00:56:28
Charlton Heston or you know or Michael
00:56:30
Jordan it's just like always hello
00:56:33
always nervous never not nervous about
00:56:35
that to me that was never like I got let
00:56:38
me handle this let me handle it it's
00:56:40
Daniel Davis
00:56:42
yeah
00:56:44
but you're right that's why this what's
00:56:46
up this Christ Jesus in
00:56:52
um 97
00:56:53
oh and our musical guest is Madonna I
00:56:55
feel like it'll be a sort of a good mix
00:57:00
I think it would be really nice if it
00:57:02
was like a really good show uh
00:57:05
Dana I'm not kidding if it's just like
00:57:08
once a year that you want to leave me
00:57:10
voice messages I'll yeah I'll get your
00:57:13
information I will occasionally leave
00:57:14
you a message from Lauren I mean
00:57:18
for when we wrote for the 40th for the
00:57:21
um you know um when Martin Short and I
00:57:23
did the musical thank you oh yeah all
00:57:25
right right I wrote chopping we wrote
00:57:27
chopping broccoli for you because yes
00:57:30
that made us so happy and that was such
00:57:31
a big part of our Lives of like me and
00:57:34
Emily Spivey were like oh my god do you
00:57:36
think Dana would say yes and then we got
00:57:38
to like talk to you about it and you're
00:57:40
you were you're more like us I never I
00:57:43
never assume people remember me I never
00:57:46
impose I'm always like okay right on the
00:57:50
back foot because I don't I don't I
00:57:51
don't like that over familiarity and you
00:57:53
were like is this okay do you want this
00:57:55
in here like Jesus like that honestly
00:57:58
was the component to like that was like
00:58:00
the key ingredient to like bringing it
00:58:03
all together and I feel like that moment
00:58:05
in my life where the like younger me was
00:58:10
like in love with you and watching you
00:58:12
be a genius on the show and quoting you
00:58:14
in my house and in my life and then
00:58:17
getting to cheers for that and then
00:58:20
notice I don't say these things to Spade
00:58:22
ever so it's true well Maya could I just
00:58:25
say because of that and thank you for
00:58:27
putting it in there during the
00:58:29
commercial break Paul McCartney was
00:58:31
sitting in the in the stand so I did
00:58:33
this little teeny thing from revolver
00:58:35
the other day breaks you're my index and
00:58:38
I'm not a big piano player but I was
00:58:39
able to play that and Paul stood up did
00:58:41
his six shooters I know what you're
00:58:43
doing I know what you're doing so that
00:58:45
was like our connection and then we did
00:58:47
Wayne's World at the end of the show and
00:58:49
we're doing the good nights and suddenly
00:58:51
there's someone massaging me no and I
00:58:54
look up and it's Paul
00:58:56
so all of us to sum up when you're on
00:59:00
Saturday Night Live experientially who
00:59:02
you meet the pressure 8h Lorne Michaels
00:59:04
it's a time in your life when you're
00:59:06
having success or not everything about
00:59:08
it and the the the
00:59:10
relationships you make that if you ran
00:59:12
into somebody you couldn't see them for
00:59:14
10 years like with David and I didn't
00:59:15
see him a lot for many years suddenly
00:59:17
we're best friends in like three seconds
00:59:18
so that's why this podcast is fun
00:59:21
because it's such a seminal part of all
00:59:23
of our Lives it's a linchpin I I'll come
00:59:25
back um if you want to do like a four
00:59:27
hour session next time
00:59:38
okay I did this I did you a favor I'll
00:59:41
never do this again that's usually the
00:59:43
sign off you're the first to say no
00:59:45
Jimmy was great yesterday Jimmy uh
00:59:48
yeah he's so [ __ ] funny so we had a
00:59:52
great time and we love you Maya I always
00:59:54
joke with you but I love you to death
00:59:55
because you're so great I'm at an age
00:59:59
where I just tell everyone I love them
01:00:00
so we're gonna bring Dane into the fold
01:00:02
and then you can slowly uh phase me out
01:00:05
and bring in Dana I've been waiting for
01:00:07
so long to do that thank you great okay
01:00:11
bye honey guys thank you love you
01:00:16
hey what's up flies what's up please
01:00:19
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01:00:20
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01:00:22
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01:00:34
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01:00:36
and Draco andreiaco
01:00:45
hey guys 43 year old lifelong SNL fan
01:00:47
love the podcast I'm always amazed how
01:00:50
much original materials generated
01:00:52
only in a week oh at the show Curious
01:00:55
how many weeks it took right the 40th
01:00:57
special ooh that's a good question that
01:00:58
was very tricky I think that was Steve
01:00:59
Higgins was in charge of that I would
01:01:01
say like everything else on SNL it's
01:01:04
it's devoted to add theater why do it
01:01:07
now when you can do it later and then
01:01:09
this compression mentally starts this
01:01:11
pressure and finally you have to work on
01:01:13
it I think we probably did the 40th in
01:01:16
the same amount we did even though it
01:01:18
was like a four hour special as a
01:01:20
regular week there was no really
01:01:21
rehearsal on the Sound Stage I mean Mike
01:01:23
and I were just back in a room going you
01:01:26
know I could do that too when I
01:01:27
introduced this yeah you're left to your
01:01:29
own devices yeah and we're just
01:01:30
practicing ourselves so that was fly by
01:01:32
the seat of your pants 40th that turned
01:01:34
out amazing but it was one of those
01:01:36
shows that was iffy right it was on the
01:01:39
40th I didn't I wasn't in anything and I
01:01:41
go yeah we'll just come and then
01:01:43
uh I said maybe one uh maybe one sketch
01:01:47
when they're leaving I'll just stand
01:01:48
there and say bye-bye and they goes yeah
01:01:50
so the end of The Californians he goes
01:01:52
just say bye-bye and because I was like
01:01:54
I'll take anything Evan was being cool
01:01:56
because I go that'd be funny because
01:01:57
it's something
01:02:00
California it's California sorry and you
01:02:04
know everyone was game for that like I
01:02:06
just did like the end of a sketch and
01:02:08
then Steve Martin puts the whole get up
01:02:10
on for King Tut to sing two lines
01:02:12
to be a part of some other bigger skit
01:02:14
it was just it was just fun it was more
01:02:16
fun than 40th because everywhere you
01:02:18
turned it was someone you knew or
01:02:20
someone famous and they were all just it
01:02:22
was more of a party
01:02:23
people were drinking it was less of
01:02:25
issue it's like the the it was a wax
01:02:27
museum when you looked at the in the
01:02:29
stands it was everybody was famous so
01:02:31
you're playing to all famous people
01:02:32
which normally might not be the best
01:02:35
audience but Mike and I went on at the
01:02:37
very end like almost at midnight we
01:02:39
waited like for eight hours and I said
01:02:41
either we should be really flattered
01:02:43
that thing oh we'll put them on the very
01:02:46
end are really angry but I said let's go
01:02:48
[ __ ] them up man so the rest is history
01:02:51
that's it uh say what is his name oh
01:02:54
Aaron thank you Aaron for writing that
01:02:56
in that was our shortest answer ever to
01:02:58
be honest thank you Aaron and the Draco
01:03:02
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01:03:05
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