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April 01, 2026 / 01:00:32

This episode features J. Moore discussing his experiences on Saturday Night Live (SNL) with hosts Dana Carvey and David Spade. Key topics include SNL stories, impressions, and personal anecdotes about Chris Farley and other cast members.

J. Moore shares his friendship with Chris Farley, recalling a wrestling match that nearly ended badly for him. He describes how he managed to pin Farley, who was much larger, and the chaotic atmosphere of SNL during their time.

The conversation shifts to the challenges of writing sketches for SNL, with Moore and Carvey reflecting on their early careers and the pressure to produce content. They discuss their unique styles, with Carvey emphasizing original characters while Moore focuses on impressions.

Moore also touches on his personal struggles with addiction and how it affected his relationships, particularly with his wife Jeanie. He shares insights about recovery and the importance of self-awareness in overcoming challenges.

The episode concludes with humorous anecdotes about their time at SNL, including interactions with other cast members and behind-the-scenes moments that highlight the unpredictable nature of live television.

TL;DR

J. Moore shares SNL stories, personal struggles, and memories of Chris Farley with Dana Carvey and David Spade.

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J Moore Dana was probably more from me
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being on SNL, but did you overlap at
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all?
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>> He was there when I hosted. Oh,
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>> but I he wasn't there when I was part of
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the cast.
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>> J Moore, who did uh he came on when I
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was there.
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>> He we got to be friends. I still see him
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here and there. He has a funny podcast.
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Uh talks a lot of old stories and throws
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us in impressions. He does good
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impressions, which
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>> you probably remember. He does he does a
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really good walk-in.
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>> Um that was the last time I saw him do,
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but he has a lot of people
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>> and he can really imitate well, but he
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is a funny dude. Um we sat down with him
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and we had a blast. Uh the guy is funny.
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He's always been funny. Uh he had sort
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of an really up and down time on SNL
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and he tells those stories. It's It's
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always interesting, you know, but I
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always tell people all everyone who's
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ever been on SNL will spend a lot more
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time being an e x ex
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everybody except for Keenan, but that's
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all right. So far,
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>> Daryl Hammond, Keenan, they were most of
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their life was on SNL.
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>> Yeah, good for them.
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>> But uh anyway, J Moore, this is
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entertaining. Please listen.
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When did you come on?
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>> 91. 91. I was there till 93.
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>> I wait. Do you know who Dana is?
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>> Which one?
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>> Are you a Church fan or are you more of
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a guy?
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>> Are you Coffee Machine?
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>> You're Dana?
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>> No.
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>> I had to grow this so we look even
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>> I was not on Saturday Night Live with
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you. D
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>> But we both were there in '92. So
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there's a little bit of a problem. Do
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you remember
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>> when you and I were there? David, was
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Dana there also?
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>> No.
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>> Well, let me ask you a question.
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>> Sarah and Norm and David Tell.
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>> Did you do it with Sarah and Norm
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>> and David Tell?
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>> No, that was later.
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>> Okay.
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>> So, you weren't there in '92? Cuz that's
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when I was doing Was Wayne's World
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happening all the time?
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>> What is this? What's Wayne's World?
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>> Okay, let's back up.
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>> So, you missed it by
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>> much. I used to just by a little bit. a
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birdie told me. But I remember being
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there once where
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>> where Franken and and Chris Farley were
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going to fight.
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>> Franken and Chris Farley were going to
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wrestle
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>> and I remember you hanging around and I
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remember oh Jay you know like you were
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like I could take both of you guys kind
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of like you were going to there was a
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three. So I don't know if you ever
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>> I do remember that now.
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>> Yeah.
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>> And uh I also remember far okay spa
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David and um I still call you David.
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David, you call me
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>> and Fred Wolf were in the graphics room.
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>> I knew Fred Wolf would come up
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immediately.
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>> He's the best. Fred Fred,
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>> you're really funny. You're not so
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funny. That's really good. Do that. I
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just want to talk to you shooters up
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here. Really good. You're really good.
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>> I have to tell you a story, but I'm
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going to talk to you for one second. I'm
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going to talk to you. I have a question.
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>> I just remember a waiter coming over
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going, "Get the [ __ ] out of here." But
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he's in the middle of a punch line and
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the waiter would walk up. He goes, "Get
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the [ __ ] out of here. Get the [ __ ] out
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of here."
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>> Cuz they always come on the punch line.
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I wasn't as funny as you as that. But I
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was pretty good, right? But I wasn't as
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funny as you guys.
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>> Uh, so Spade and Fred Wolf are in the
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graphics room and I walk in to see what
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they're doing. Then Farley walks in
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>> and then Fred just Fred's like the
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master manipulator like, "Hey Chris, you
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know Jay wrestled. You wrestled. Jay,
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you know, Jay says he could kick your
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ass at wrestling." And I'm like, "Yeah,
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I'm 23 years old." I'm like,
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"Absolutely."
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>> And Chris just
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>> Chris is just like, "Yeah, all right."
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So we square up to wrestle like he's not
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even in his in the writer's room where
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we
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>> No, it was in the graphics room.
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>> Oh, okay.
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>> Like
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in the writers on the way to Lauren's
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office. Okay.
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>> And uh it was just you and Fred were
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just doing private time or something.
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>> Graphics. What happened?
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>> So I made the mistake of shooting in on
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Chris's legs
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>> and he just collapsed on top of me and
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then I went to my stomach and I brought
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my elbows in and Chris for the next six
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minutes sat on my back going
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Like like and I really
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>> get out.
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>> No, I thought I really thought my life
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was going to end like you know Chris was
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trying to say like Chris you're trying
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my back and after 6 minutes David saved
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me. He goes get the [ __ ] off.
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>> Come on Chris.
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>> First of all, it was all Fred's fault.
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Oh yeah.
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>> Okay. Jay is doing miming Chris Farley's
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little running thing. this heart attack
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thing where he always hits this he goes
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>> son of a
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>> I have uh are you supposed to have a
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tingling feeling in your left arm it's
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going numb
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>> yeah he let yeah so what about when he
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walked you to the elevator wasn't he mad
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about that
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>> I pinned him yeah so the rematch was it
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was it was uh Dana Carvey Dana Carvey it
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was the I was reading your name right
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there it was uh it was Alec Baldwin I
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get you guys confused all the time
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>> me and Alec we we know it's just a thing
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>> it was Alec Baldwin and Kim Basinger
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were So, uh, mingling.
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>> Yeah. And, um,
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>> my my followup to that was like it
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really like bugged me cuz I was like, as
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>> well,
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>> can I ask for a second? How good were
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you at wrestling? You're a good
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wrestler. I'm much better as an adult
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than I was.
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>> What was the weight when you took on
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Farley? What was your weight?
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>> I was probably 160.
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>> Okay. So, you lean. Okay. So, talk about
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how you pinned him by the elevator.
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>> How did you pin a 5'6, 270 lb man?
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>> He was sitting on the couch.
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>> That's about what I figured he was at
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his prime. I'm glad you asked.
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>> Yeah,
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>> you get him right after he went to
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Wall-E and Joseph's and he had shells.
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>> Wall-ally and Joseph's taking a nap.
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>> That was our go-to restaurant
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>> in New York.
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>> He was sitting on the couch right inside
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the Right. I said, "Right inside the
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writer's room."
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>> Yes.
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>> And I walked in. I said, "Hey." I said I
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said something and he like, "Hey, fat
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boy. You still want to go?"
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>> And he went to get up and the everyone's
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sitting at that giant table. Fat boy,
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you still want to go? 40 people going,
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"Why are you doing this?"
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>> I think I was nuts.
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>> Yeah.
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>> Untreated alcoholism.
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>> What are you doing? Untreated.
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>> Totally. And he went to get up. His
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mistake was it's like never get in a
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fight getting out of your car. You're
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dead. So he got caught in that limbo
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between getting up
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>> starting halfway. And then where'd you
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go? So I went my right arm around his
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head and I just went bodied into him and
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then we just were falling forward and
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then I clasp my hands under his
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>> like back of his knee. So we did like a
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somersault into the room
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and I put my knee in his side and my
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forehead on his temple and I just cuz I
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knew if I let him go he'd kill me.
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>> Yeah. No way.
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>> So it's like you're fighting a bully.
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>> You are brave. I don't want to let him
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go because he'll beat me up in front of
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Alec Paul and more importantly.
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>> So I let him go and everyone's staring
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at me like what the [ __ ] is this guy
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doing? So then I slap Chris's ass. I go
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now we're even.
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>> And I get up and I'm walking to the
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night elevators. I don't know why I turn
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left instead of right. And I just hear
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this like running of the bulls behind
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me. And I turn and it's like the entire
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room has emptied out and they're walking
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towards me but in front of them Chris is
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walking like a zombie like in a
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Scooby-Doo like with the big leg and his
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eyes are up in his head like and his
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palms are out terrifying.
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>> So I had that time to get to the
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elevator and I'm hitting the button and
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I'm hitting the button. The night
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elevator opens and it's filled with
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people from the rainbow room.
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just a wall of black tie and gowns just
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tapida and [ __ ] Ben Gay just all
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these whole. So I wedge into the
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elevator and then Chris is walking
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towards the elevator now he's going to
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kill me and there's going to be
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collateral damage and I go look
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everybody that's Chris Farley and the
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whole elevator like on an episode of NEW
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HART JUST GOES AND HE goes he just
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turned around and walked away and the
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elevator
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>> you got so lucky
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>> I got would have [ __ ] murdered me. Oh
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my god. Did he get that temper going?
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>> The only reason I lived is cuz he's just
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he had to get the laugh. Even in that
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>> even like instead of running at me and
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grabbing me once everybody was mobile,
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he was like
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>> I remember I told Dana I said I remember
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Chris and Jay
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>> there was a wrestling situation and then
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Jay got the best of him and went into
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the elevator. I just went into the
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elevator.
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>> I made him turn purple.
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>> Oh got the best of him almost killed
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him. So you had skill,
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>> you had a lot of confidence.
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>> Well, I watch a lot of UFC, so I you
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know,
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>> you've seen me on that.
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>> Well, I've seen guys that look like you.
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I don't know. But but leverage a smaller
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person.
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>> He just if it was he was the way he was
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getting up off the couch was just a
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godsend that I got really lucky and he
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just took my shots.
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>> Well, he was just obviously ready. Man
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was he was quick.
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>> Oh, he was just like, "Hey, he always
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went like punch line first." He's like,
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"All right, young ballot."
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>> Yeah.
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Hey, how are you?
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>> Sorry.
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>> I remember when David Tell and I were in
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the office and Farley walked in at like
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1:00 a.m. on a Thursday. It was just
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like whoa. And he's like, "What are you
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guys doing?" And at the same time, like
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creepy twins. We said, "We'll pay you
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$100 to [ __ ] out the window."
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>> Oh, you you initiated that infamous and
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he just went, "Oh, give me the money
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first.
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>> Give me the money first." And so he did
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this more than once.
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>> 17th floor.
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>> No, that's We had to fill out a police
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report because I thought he was a
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jumper.
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>> So he opens the window. Does he take
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down his p I mean And then he puts his
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ass out. So
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>> yeah. And it was obvious right away he
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didn't have to [ __ ] at all
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>> cuz he was just he turned like purple
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from effort. HE WAS JUST LIKE
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>> SO nothing happened.
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>> No. Like a one little thing. one hairy
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milk dud
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>> and hit Lauren Michaels who was back
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coming back for more.
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>> Excuse me, Paul. Do you have a napkin?
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>> She's on you.
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>> One of the feature players [ __ ] up.
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>> It fell in the window onto my desk.
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>> Oh, what? So, you initiate it and you
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become the victim.
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>> Yeah. And then um he there was nothing
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to wipe his ass with. Well,
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>> so we wipe I always leave this part of
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the story out out of respect, but you
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guys know how much how love we we can't
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love anyone more.
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>> No.
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>> So he wiped his hands with his hand.
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>> For people listening who don't who think
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being on Saturday Night Live is a barrel
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of monkeys, you're right. And this isn't
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exact because when he how much fun it
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is,
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>> he would come in my office and go,
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>> "Yeah, I have got a greasy trail," which
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I figured out later what it was. Then
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he'd take a my USA Today and go give me
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a piece of that and you know you can do
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the rest of that.
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>> So after he wiped his ass with his hand
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he went back to that mummy walk and he
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[ __ ] chased us on the 17th floor with
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the [ __ ] on his face.
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>> What's the mommy walk and [ __ ] on
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>> and I'm running down the hallway past
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like research
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>> and there's those bookshelves in the
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hallway and me and David are running
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side by side and I'm like we're not
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going to make this side by side. We got
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to go single file, but I don't want to
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be in in the back. and Dave like I I'm
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like two years removed from competitive
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wrestling and Dave tell a chain smoking
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miserable guy just passes me like he's
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on a jet ski
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>> and I hit my I hit the bookcase my
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shoulder like pops out and I'm just
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laying on my back and Chris for like
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minutes is standing over me going
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>> oh with that didn't you have the
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broomstick though or was that a we don't
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talk
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>> yeah that was
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>> we don't talk about
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>> oh that's even more okay Yeah. Well, the
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writer room, the writer's room was a
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very fun uh late night chaotic place and
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and we're even Downey, everyone's
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looking for any reason not to write.
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The first sketch I ever handed Downey, I
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didn't know like he slept there. He was
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going through some [ __ ]
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>> Yeah.
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>> And he just wanted us around like in the
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loneliest hours between 3:00 and 6:00
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a.m.
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>> So, remember he'd make us watch like
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Juliet high school basketball. Like,
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look at this. Look, look at the ball
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movement. Oh, you were out by then.
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>> He did like to talk about like if I ever
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got in that Downy's office, which all we
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wanted to do is get Downy's expertise.
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And he was burn, you know, he's been
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there for 20 years. So, when we get in
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there, he goes, "Spade, what is going on
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in Arizona?" And then I would go through
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all that, but I'm trying to go through
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my progression so I can get to my
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horrible sketch that he's not going to
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like. And uh I would talk and talk and
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just talk and we would just talk. And
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Schneider, let me in. I'm next. Too much
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time. So 2 in the morning you leave and
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then Schneider goes in and then but poor
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Jim that's what he had to do is just
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take okay ideas. One time he did say
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something smart. He goes well he always
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said something smart but he said
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something that I remembered where he
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goes there's times when you're going to
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give me an idea and I'm just going to
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say I don't think you should write it
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and I can't really tell you why.
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>> I just know it probably won't get on and
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I can't even articulate it's just not
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right. And I said okay fair enough. And
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sometimes I would do it and he goes, "I
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don't think that's the one." And I'd be
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like, "This is one of the guys that
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decides, so why go through the motions
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of writing unless it's going to be so
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primo he has to overturn his opinion,
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but he just goes," and that's hard to
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do. It's hard to tell someone not to
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write something.
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>> The first sketch I ever handed him was
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the Christopher Walkin Psychic Friends
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Network.
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>> That that had to have gotten on, didn't
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he get on
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>> eventually? And um but I was, you know,
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I didn't see him till like 900 a.m.
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>> Oh. And I finished it at like midnight.
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>> So you stayed the whole night.
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>> Slept on the couch and this. And then he
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they go, "Oh, you can go." I think it
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was Lori Jo, but you can go see him. And
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then he's sitting on his [ __ ] little
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couch brushing his teeth. It's like a
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face of foam.
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>> Yeah.
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>> And he goes, "Let me see it." And I go,
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"Hey." And I hand it to him. And he puts
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his palm out like this. And I put the
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sketch in his palm and he goes, "Yeah,
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it feels a little long."
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>> He just weighed it out and then handed
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it back to you.
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>> He was right though.
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>> Oh my god. Feelsavy. It was a heavy
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sketch. It was long.
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>> I'd get there and sometimes there was a
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Franken or maybe was it Rosie
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Schustster? They would be like Rosie
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Schustster 18 pages and read through.
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>> Now, uh, read it. Who is that? Which
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one's Franken?
00:14:28
>> Oh, Franken. Okay.
00:14:29
>> I remember I had Franken somehow in like
00:14:33
some sketch that was going to get on. I
00:14:36
think it was like Good Morning Brooklyn
00:14:37
or something. It was going to get on.
00:14:38
Like it was just the vibe was there.
00:14:40
>> And I had Franken and No, Psychic
00:14:43
Friends. It was the walk-in sketch and
00:14:44
and Schneider goes you got to you got to
00:14:46
switch out no you got to switch out
00:14:48
Franken you can't and I go no this is
00:14:51
funny cuz he's like the guy and he goes
00:14:53
no don't put Franken in your sketch and
00:14:55
I go why not he goes follow me and we
00:14:58
walked out of the office around the
00:15:00
corner down the hallway and there's that
00:15:02
you know the framed photos and it's when
00:15:04
they were having the white sale with
00:15:06
slaves with Belushi
00:15:08
>> and I guess and uh Bill Murray and then
00:15:11
the third one is Franken and they're
00:15:13
just standing in there like whatever.
00:15:14
And Franken's like,
00:15:15
>> "Oh, yeah."
00:15:16
>> Like all puffed up chest. He goes,
00:15:17
"That's why."
00:15:19
>> Cuz he's overacting.
00:15:20
>> That's why.
00:15:20
>> Schneider's an old soul.
00:15:22
>> Schneider is Schneider will tell you.
00:15:25
Oh, you're a [ __ ] rookie. What do you
00:15:27
know?
00:15:27
>> You don't know what you're doing.
00:15:28
They're poison water.
00:15:30
>> Well, he can also note you in your own
00:15:32
sketch, you know.
00:15:33
>> No, he's great
00:15:34
>> cuz he was one of the ones that got the
00:15:35
P sketches. So he that was I mean I'm
00:15:37
I'm talking Frank and like he would
00:15:39
>> oh man right
00:15:39
>> he would uh you know if he's in it he's
00:15:42
also a writer and he's also one of the
00:15:43
producers that picks sketches so
00:15:45
>> he has a lot of control of your own
00:15:46
sketch which might that rub you wrong
00:15:49
>> is the game of thrones of SNL partnering
00:15:52
with someone even if you you go into the
00:15:55
room and you go I kind of have an idea
00:15:56
be like your psychic walk and and then
00:15:59
let them start the ball rolling ah
00:16:01
that's great that's great so they get
00:16:03
proprietary so when Lauren is there
00:16:05
anyone
00:16:06
walking psychic. They're involved. They
00:16:09
>> Yeah. See, I didn't know any of that.
00:16:11
>> Oh,
00:16:12
>> yeah. I think when Jay started, I don't
00:16:14
know if I knew you ahead. Did I know you
00:16:15
ahead of time or I just knew you there?
00:16:16
>> No.
00:16:17
>> Okay. So, I think uh we all had trouble
00:16:20
when we got there. Me, everybody. I had
00:16:22
a lot because I couldn't quite this dope
00:16:25
that was better than me. This guy Dana.
00:16:27
So, when I got there,
00:16:27
>> David's always there.
00:16:29
>> When when I got there,
00:16:30
>> he was like my protege.
00:16:31
>> I was the longest feature player. Rob
00:16:34
went first, Sandler went first, Farley,
00:16:36
they all they all went to cast and so I
00:16:39
stayed an extra year in the uh on the
00:16:42
bench kind of and I remember when I
00:16:44
think you came on it was like kind of
00:16:45
tough and maybe I tried to tell you and
00:16:48
at the beginning in my recollection you
00:16:51
were like you know I know it's hard I
00:16:52
know how it is
00:16:54
but the truth was you can't even be
00:16:56
prepared. It's like you know it and you
00:16:58
get there and you go
00:16:59
>> well my sketch was funny what's going on
00:17:01
and then it just that's exactly what
00:17:02
happened to me. How did you
00:17:03
>> you start to go how do you and then
00:17:04
after three weeks that like I gave my
00:17:06
best sketch the first week and it almost
00:17:08
got on and then after that it was a lot
00:17:10
tougher because that was the one I
00:17:12
worked on. I go this this has to work
00:17:14
and then another week comes by another
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week and if you're not getting stuff on
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you start to lose your mind.
00:17:18
>> Let me ask both of you guys a question.
00:17:20
I mean the first year I kind of
00:17:21
harvested or adapted stuff that I worked
00:17:24
for me in clubs a lot of the time you
00:17:27
know. So, I'm wondering what what were
00:17:29
your killer bits when you got it? And
00:17:31
you too, Jay, like how you got the show.
00:17:33
I mean, your walking is right up there.
00:17:35
>> I'm more of a mimic, so I didn't have
00:17:37
like You have the You're really great,
00:17:40
Dana, at um like your original
00:17:42
characters. And I
00:17:42
>> But I'm just doing an impression of a
00:17:44
person I met kind of. It's a It's a
00:17:46
close, but it's still an original thing.
00:17:48
Like, I'm just mimicking. And I remember
00:17:50
when um Jim Downey said, you know, go to
00:17:53
the guy's uh you know, go around to the
00:17:55
other guy's offices and just do
00:17:57
impressions. Let them know what you And
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I was like so offended. Like I'm not
00:18:00
going to be a door to door sales,
00:18:02
>> but that's exactly what I should have
00:18:03
done. If I could have done it over
00:18:04
again, I would have just walked into
00:18:06
your office and been like
00:18:07
>> I wrote a list out of everyone that I
00:18:09
did really
00:18:10
>> and just passed it all around.
00:18:12
>> Yeah. My nar What did you Who were you
00:18:15
doing at that point? This mid come in
00:18:17
with
00:18:18
>> you've been in clubs for a few years.
00:18:20
>> Hacky like Peshyes.
00:18:24
Andrew McCarthy was that heard that one
00:18:28
movie too.
00:18:29
>> We did it. Uh
00:18:31
>> I love her man.
00:18:32
>> Oh yeah,
00:18:33
>> it was we did it with Phil on Sassy when
00:18:36
he had that talk.
00:18:37
>> Sassy.
00:18:38
>> We were just talking about Sassy.
00:18:39
>> Oh yeah, that was Phil Harin.
00:18:41
>> See that's funny. Like if if people if
00:18:43
it's not accurate for me like that's
00:18:45
just funny. I love her so much. You
00:18:46
know,
00:18:46
>> I love her, man.
00:18:47
>> It's just a funny attitude. And then you
00:18:51
just say, "That's Andrew McCarthy."
00:18:52
>> Yeah. And it works because if you have
00:18:53
one move, the eyes, the voice close
00:18:55
enough there, you get your laugh. That's
00:18:57
all you need really in those sketches.
00:18:58
>> And I did our I did a bunch of black car
00:19:01
like Arenio and um Tracy, but he wasn't
00:19:04
famous yet.
00:19:06
>> 1995.
00:19:08
>> Crippled [ __ ] Stay wet.
00:19:10
>> So you crippled [ __ ]
00:19:12
>> Yeah. That's why I GOT THESE WHEELCHAIR
00:19:14
GLOVES. FAMOUS.
00:19:16
>> And this was seeing him in the club. So
00:19:17
he wasn't on SNL.
00:19:18
>> Yeah. I went to go see him at the I went
00:19:20
to go see him at the improv.
00:19:23
>> And I walk in the improv and he's fist
00:19:25
fighting the audience in the hallway
00:19:26
before they redid it.
00:19:28
>> And uh
00:19:29
>> I go to help him. It was like 80 against
00:19:31
one. And he's just like, "Yeah, I MISSED
00:19:33
MY DAUGHTER. Goddamn it."
00:19:35
And then I go to help him in the fight
00:19:37
and he turns to punch me in the face and
00:19:39
his fist stops like right at my face and
00:19:41
he stops and he goes, "I'M NOT GOING TO
00:19:43
[ __ ] WITH YOU, JOROS. YOU LEGENDARY."
00:19:48
>> That was his way of That was his way of
00:19:49
saying, "I almost just punched you in
00:19:51
the face.
00:19:52
>> I put a baby in you, J."
00:19:53
>> Yeah, Jmore got me boy pregnant.
00:19:56
>> I like when Tracy does observational
00:19:58
humor, but it's it's only observational
00:20:01
to Tracy. He's on stage and like Oxnard.
00:20:03
Who else remembers finger [ __ ]
00:20:05
Portuguese girls on their anvil courts?
00:20:09
>> You know what I'm talking
00:20:10
>> You know what I'm talking about. Old
00:20:12
white people with turquoise. They all
00:20:14
have like turquoise jewelry on. They're
00:20:15
all like earthy on his went down to
00:20:19
Austin.
00:20:19
>> You know them Portuguese girls been
00:20:21
giving up the [ __ ]
00:20:23
>> on the handbook cards.
00:20:24
>> Well, Jason, we're not going to have you
00:20:26
back.
00:20:26
>> Oh, okay.
00:20:30
>> God damn. That's so funny.
00:20:33
That's so [ __ ] good.
00:20:35
>> Uh Daryl Hammond tells me tells a story
00:20:38
of
00:20:39
>> Tracy like was Daryl's savior like Daryl
00:20:42
was struggling and Tracy goes we got to
00:20:44
go give respect to the man like this is
00:20:46
the streets Daryl Daryl.
00:20:49
>> So he's got to go like we have to have
00:20:51
like our meeting with Lauren just let
00:20:53
him know we're soldiers.
00:20:55
>> Oh okay. And so they wait and they wait
00:20:57
for like two hours and they finally get
00:21:00
in and Lord's like, "Have a seat, guys.
00:21:02
Hold on a second. Hello, Mick." It's
00:21:04
like MC Jacks.
00:21:07
>> They're sitting in those big [ __ ]
00:21:08
chair waiting. And he's like, "One
00:21:10
second. Hello Mick. How's the tour
00:21:13
going?" And then they start talking and
00:21:15
Dick Cheny's office called
00:21:21
Cheney.
00:21:21
>> They're just getting more emasculated.
00:21:24
So, it's like 8 minutes total. And then
00:21:26
he goes, "All right, thanks." And they
00:21:27
go outside the office and Tracy looks at
00:21:29
Daryl and goes, "There ain't no eye
00:21:31
rolling in that [ __ ] D."
00:21:36
And that meant like, "But like we're in
00:21:39
the big leagues. There ain't no eye
00:21:41
rolling in that motherfucker." D.
00:21:43
>> Yeah.
00:21:44
>> So, did you did you uh partner up with
00:21:48
with Daryl a little bit, Bob? Two
00:21:49
impressionists.
00:21:50
>> We've been doing shows
00:21:52
>> Oh, really? now, right?
00:21:53
>> Yeah. Oh, good. Uh like just a night of
00:21:55
impressions. Like he does 20 minutes, I
00:21:57
do 20 minutes.
00:21:57
>> Do you have any over Q&A? Is this the
00:21:59
two of you?
00:22:00
>> We shut down the Q&A last year cuz it's
00:22:02
like do uh the Q&A is like do
00:22:05
Schwarzenegger.
00:22:06
>> Yeah.
00:22:06
>> It's like I don't do
00:22:07
>> Q&A are tough.
00:22:08
>> Yeah. We like to take all the variables
00:22:10
out and but we have a guy Greg Baldwin
00:22:13
who's like the moderator. He's like the
00:22:15
James Lipton.
00:22:16
>> And then we do, you know, we just go
00:22:18
back and forth, back and forth. We tell
00:22:20
a couple stories and then we'll do like
00:22:22
speed round which is mostly cartoons.
00:22:25
>> That sounds a great that sounds like a
00:22:26
great show.
00:22:27
>> Cartoons. You like cartoons?
00:22:29
>> Yeah.
00:22:29
>> Who's your favorite muppet?
00:22:32
>> Kermit.
00:22:32
>> Yeah. Yeah. I just
00:22:34
>> I Kermit Defrog.
00:22:35
>> No, I like some other ones. Uh Cookie
00:22:37
Moss. Who's a homeless guy?
00:22:38
>> Are you guessing or like who is your
00:22:39
favorite muppet?
00:22:40
>> No, you're guessing. I'm not a muppet
00:22:42
guy. I'd be I'd be
00:22:43
>> shimp.
00:22:44
>> I'm not a muppet guy.
00:22:45
>> Beaker.
00:22:46
>> Beaker's tight.
00:22:47
>> See? and his boss, uh, Professor
00:22:50
>> Professor Honey, Dude,
00:22:51
>> a bald guy.
00:22:52
>> Yeah, he had no eyes, but he had
00:22:53
glasses.
00:22:55
>> Muppets are killing it.
00:22:57
>> I'm a Muppet guy.
00:22:58
>> I'm I'm old school. I like Bert.
00:23:00
>> Oh, yeah. Bert and Ernie. What was the
00:23:01
story with them?
00:23:03
>> Everybody.
00:23:04
>> Yeah. One came out, right?
00:23:06
>> Bert. Everybody thinks Bert's an
00:23:08
[ __ ] but Ernie just wore him down
00:23:10
until he snapped.
00:23:12
>> Berts just runs a tight ship.
00:23:13
>> Yeah.
00:23:14
>> And Ernie military guy. Ernie was a navy
00:23:15
guy.
00:23:16
>> Yeah. Her name was kind of a fuckound
00:23:18
>> for a total Navy guy. Make the bed nice
00:23:20
and early.
00:23:21
>> They have to be a little opposite to
00:23:23
make it work. I think
00:23:23
>> so. Going back to Dana's question.
00:23:25
>> Yes. Yeah.
00:23:26
>> I didn't really bring anything other
00:23:27
than impressions in uh with me. But then
00:23:31
I kept my impressions like a secret and
00:23:35
then I had resentments that nobody was
00:23:37
writing. Dumb thing ever.
00:23:38
>> Yeah. Which is again untreated
00:23:40
>> because I mean you did all these movies
00:23:42
and I see you like I got a question for
00:23:44
you. I'm jumping around. I'm sorry. I
00:23:46
was
00:23:46
>> talking to
00:23:48
>> my co-host was asking you something.
00:23:49
>> I was just saying you're more than an
00:23:50
impressionist in your career. You know,
00:23:52
sports commentator. You're
00:23:53
>> That's not what I was going to say.
00:23:54
>> Well, that's the thing with impressions,
00:23:55
too. When people go, "How come you don't
00:23:57
do impressions when you're on stage?"
00:23:59
It's It's not to me. It's not standup.
00:24:01
It's a whole different toolbox.
00:24:03
>> Yeah.
00:24:04
>> I feel like I'm kind of cheating. Like,
00:24:06
this isn't standup. I'm just doing these
00:24:07
[ __ ] voices.
00:24:08
>> Well, I used to be I would get teased a
00:24:09
lot in San Francisco like Bobby Slate.
00:24:11
Yeah. Yeah. Do a funny voice. Do a funny
00:24:12
voice. You know, that's all you do. And
00:24:14
then I walked into the holy cities this
00:24:16
little club one night and he's doing one
00:24:18
of the Bowery Boys. That's like his big
00:24:20
closing.
00:24:20
>> The Bowery Boys.
00:24:21
>> Yeah, the Bowery Boys. Sorry. Going
00:24:23
back.
00:24:24
>> Um,
00:24:26
>> hang on.
00:24:26
>> Yeah, it seems like it's a big advantage
00:24:28
just to have impressions to go to, maybe
00:24:30
not depend on, but to go to on that show
00:24:32
>> only if people know that you have them.
00:24:35
>> Didn't you just go around office go,
00:24:37
"Hey, how about this? You guys
00:24:40
>> they literally never found out. You got
00:24:42
this secret." Well, they found out like,
00:24:43
you know, it would be like whatever
00:24:45
movie was playing,
00:24:47
>> right?
00:24:47
>> I would start quoting the movie cuz I
00:24:49
just talk in movie quotes all the time
00:24:51
anyway. So, that's how I got Kaitel on.
00:24:54
And um
00:24:55
>> Keitel,
00:24:56
>> look, I understand he's super [ __ ]
00:24:58
pissed.
00:25:00
Uh
00:25:02
Joe
00:25:02
>> Harvey Kitel,
00:25:03
>> I don't know what you think you know,
00:25:04
but you're wrong. He's a good kid.
00:25:08
>> Kaitel, I never hear anyone do. Well,
00:25:10
nice thing you paid attention to the
00:25:11
broadcast.
00:25:13
>> We did it. You were in the sketch.
00:25:14
>> No, I know.
00:25:16
>> We did.
00:25:18
>> Wow. SNL secrets.
00:25:19
>> Well, when was it?
00:25:20
>> Where do you guys hide the cameras?
00:25:22
>> We're not filming this stupid thing.
00:25:23
That's why
00:25:24
>> we couldn't afford what you're doing cuz
00:25:26
we're stupid. No, my eye is [ __ ] up. I
00:25:29
I was going to tell you when you came
00:25:30
in.
00:25:31
>> Um
00:25:32
>> I don't know. I just I woke up. My eye
00:25:33
was red on the side. So, it looks like
00:25:35
[ __ ]
00:25:36
>> But I think it's
00:25:37
>> Did you not threatening? Did you have
00:25:39
characters when you came in or
00:25:40
>> you know we we did the thing where you
00:25:43
like what you guys were saying about
00:25:44
your standup. Mine was just stories and
00:25:46
and stand up and punch lines and just
00:25:47
talking. So I really wasn't loaded to go
00:25:50
in there to go I think it's a good idea
00:25:52
to go into the offices and say hey guys
00:25:54
I can do this or hey if you ever need
00:25:56
some but they you have to I'm wondering
00:25:59
why does no one write for me but no one
00:26:00
even knows who I am and they don't give
00:26:02
a [ __ ] And they've got
00:26:04
>> 10 guys that are great right there to
00:26:05
pick from. So you almost have to go sell
00:26:08
yourself, which is what we both didn't
00:26:09
do. And I didn't have as much to offer.
00:26:12
Like I was just like sort of sarcastic.
00:26:15
That might have been what they picked up
00:26:16
just around the office or talking at the
00:26:18
readrough table or at uh rewrites. But
00:26:20
you had some things that were useful
00:26:22
like impressions and attitudes. So I
00:26:25
guess it would have been good for you to
00:26:26
go to the Smiggle, go to Conan, go to
00:26:29
those guys, whoever was still around.
00:26:31
Jack Andy probably wouldn't have written
00:26:32
that much for either of us because he
00:26:34
was writing his own stuff that was
00:26:36
almost didn't need people.
00:26:38
>> Well, you want to have a reason to do
00:26:40
the impression that's kind of organic.
00:26:42
>> Those guys make a good
00:26:45
>> cavalcade of you know.
00:26:46
>> It was funny like the things that don't
00:26:48
get on like when you're just swinging
00:26:50
for the fences cuz you've had no
00:26:51
sketches on for so long. I remember me
00:26:53
and Steve Lner had Christopher Walkin as
00:26:55
a waiter at Fridays and that was the
00:26:57
whole sketch.
00:26:57
>> Oh, it is that you
00:26:58
>> like you should have a dessert. It's
00:27:00
Mount Fudgeopoulos.
00:27:04
And we would laugh. We would laugh like
00:27:07
this. [ __ ] hilarious. It goes to the
00:27:08
table and it just takes a dump. Really?
00:27:12
>> That's such a funny
00:27:13
>> It was funny, but it's just like what's
00:27:15
what's the sketch? The sketch is like,
00:27:17
"Hey, I work here." Right.
00:27:24
>> I remember Andy Robin had a sketch. He
00:27:26
he wound up going on Seinfeld as a
00:27:28
writer, but when he was on a snow, he
00:27:29
had a sketch where people walk by each
00:27:31
other in an office and they go, "How you
00:27:33
doing?" He goes, "Uh, this week or so."
00:27:34
They they kept missing what they were
00:27:36
saying and that they'd say the wrong
00:27:38
answer. You know what I mean? Like he
00:27:39
misheard him or something or something
00:27:41
dumb. But it was just walkbys the whole
00:27:43
sketch, I think. And then he submitted
00:27:45
it probably five times. And that that is
00:27:46
the hardest thing to do is if you're not
00:27:48
getting on and the second time you put a
00:27:50
sketch in, I've done it. It's got a
00:27:52
stink on it. No matter why it didn't get
00:27:54
on the first time, even if the host it
00:27:56
got cut after dress or it killed, but
00:27:58
then it bumped with something, the
00:28:00
second time just isn't as good and it's
00:28:03
just harder and harder to get something
00:28:04
on. Did you re resubmit things? You were
00:28:06
saying you did
00:28:08
>> Friends Network cuz it got it got Why
00:28:11
did it get cut?
00:28:12
>> How did it get cut?
00:28:13
>> The first it was first week with Charles
00:28:16
Barkley and Nirvana when I did Barkley
00:28:19
versus Barney.
00:28:20
>> Oh, that's great. as the cold open which
00:28:22
was just I panicked. I was like Barkley
00:28:24
but like I didn't know what the [ __ ] I
00:28:25
was doing and then I had to write it
00:28:27
>> and then um
00:28:28
>> and you were Barney the dinosaur or
00:28:29
something.
00:28:30
>> No, no, it was just cuz there was
00:28:31
commercials of Charles Barkley playing
00:28:33
basketball against Godzilla for night at
00:28:35
the time.
00:28:37
>> So I was like
00:28:39
I was like oh this is great. Okay, I I'm
00:28:42
in.
00:28:42
>> And then uh we shot it at Hunter
00:28:44
College. It's like the next mo at like
00:28:47
8:00 a.m. Thursday morning. And then
00:28:49
when I get there, like Al Franken's just
00:28:52
got like video village and he's like,
00:28:54
"All right." He's got a shot list.
00:28:57
>> Which in hindsight, thank God, cuz what
00:28:59
am I? I was like, "You guys play
00:29:00
basketball. You beat up the guy in the
00:29:01
Barney suit." They had a stunt man in a
00:29:03
Barney suit.
00:29:04
>> Yeah.
00:29:04
>> And uh I was It was like It's a very
00:29:08
unfair tugofwar guy that's been there
00:29:10
eight days. Al Franken, the guy that's
00:29:13
going to be a senator. And um
00:29:16
>> and the new guy. Yeah. Yeah. And the big
00:29:17
argument was he would he's he didn't
00:29:20
>> At one point I had Barkley kneing just
00:29:23
basketball's out the window and he just
00:29:25
knees Barney in the nuts and uh Franken
00:29:28
goes no we're not doing that. He go you
00:29:30
can't have Barney kneing you can't have
00:29:32
Charles Barkley knee and Barney in the
00:29:34
nuts.
00:29:35
>> You can't.
00:29:35
>> And that was like my only like thing
00:29:37
where I dug in and I was like this has
00:29:39
to be and we wound up doing it but it
00:29:41
was it was really bizarre.
00:29:42
>> Was it in it?
00:29:43
>> Yeah.
00:29:43
>> Yeah. Got a lot more. Yeah. So, the
00:29:45
Psychic Friends Network, it was uh
00:29:47
Nirvana and uh Barkley. No, sorry. It
00:29:51
was the second week with the Shannon
00:29:52
Doority.
00:29:53
>> Yeah.
00:29:53
>> O and Cypress Hill.
00:29:55
>> What do you mean? O
00:29:56
>> well, I'll tell you. So, I had uh so the
00:30:00
the the conceit of the sketch is
00:30:02
Christopher Walkkins, the last guy you
00:30:04
want getting inside your head and
00:30:06
helping you with psychic issues. It's
00:30:07
like, you know, I can help you with
00:30:09
romance. I could be in your garage
00:30:11
waiting for you when you get home.
00:30:14
saturity and so
00:30:16
>> that's a really good tone you have.
00:30:17
>> And then we had other like David was um
00:30:20
>> Chris you were Chris Glover
00:30:22
>> like hey I want to help you. There's all
00:30:26
these celebrities that you don't want,
00:30:28
you know, and then we got away to a
00:30:30
phone and the phone doesn't ring cuz
00:30:31
everybody's freaked out and and he keeps
00:30:33
going, "Why aren't you calling?"
00:30:35
>> And I had Shannon Doerty as Shawn Young
00:30:37
in the catsuit cuz the story at the time
00:30:39
was that she showed up to Warner
00:30:40
Brothers dressed as Catwoman cuz she
00:30:42
wanted to party and she freaked
00:30:43
everybody out. And then Shannon Doerty
00:30:46
like on Friday says, "I'm not
00:30:48
comfortable making fun of Shawn Young
00:30:50
>> and was like
00:30:52
this Pac-Man noise." Exactly. That's
00:30:54
what I was saying. A a sketch loses
00:30:57
momentum for that and now you have to
00:30:58
resubmit it.
00:30:59
>> Oh, I was [ __ ] heated.
00:31:01
>> And then so I was well not on that show.
00:31:03
I thought my life was over. And then it
00:31:05
was week three, Errol Smith and Jeff
00:31:07
Goldblum. And uh I was in the writer
00:31:11
room just just sulking, just being a
00:31:14
[ __ ] baby. And Lauren comes in and
00:31:15
goes, "How's uh
00:31:17
>> how's the Christopher Walkan sketch
00:31:19
coming?" And I said, "I'm not going to
00:31:20
do it this week." And he goes, "I think
00:31:22
you have guilt and momentum on your
00:31:24
side."
00:31:25
>> Ooh.
00:31:26
>> And I was like,
00:31:28
>> [ __ ] have a computer. I was
00:31:30
>> Oh, yeah.
00:31:31
>> I was writing on yellow legal pad
00:31:33
looking where I didn't know where to
00:31:34
hand it in. Like, I don't know where to
00:31:35
hand in sketch.
00:31:36
>> Yeah. Claire Claire went home at [ __ ]
00:31:38
10:00. It's 3:00 a.m.
00:31:40
>> And she trying to hand it to somebody.
00:31:42
>> All the guys are hitting a button on
00:31:44
their computer and the sketch goes to
00:31:45
the magic sketch place. Um, I didn't.
00:31:48
>> No, it sucked because you go in there,
00:31:49
you first of all, you write on legal
00:31:50
pad. I go home at 3:00 in the morning,
00:31:52
finish writing it, I have to take a cab
00:31:54
back from the upper west side to hand it
00:31:55
in to Claire and the madmen girls that
00:31:57
are typing it.
00:31:58
>> And then I go back home and then I come
00:32:00
back for read through. So, it wasn't
00:32:02
like attachment send. There was no
00:32:05
laptop. So, it was [ __ ] horrible.
00:32:08
>> Remember that's how it was for you,
00:32:09
right?
00:32:09
>> Yeah. And I didn't know I knew nothing
00:32:11
about writing a sketch. I didn't know if
00:32:14
you're in the sketch. I don't know if I
00:32:15
write David or do I write Crisen.
00:32:18
>> Yeah.
00:32:19
>> Like I just basic low the lowest common
00:32:23
denominator. That's a good question. I'm
00:32:24
not sure I know at this point.
00:32:27
>> And back then did we put
00:32:31
>> um
00:32:32
>> I just [ __ ]
00:32:33
>> Did we put names of us? No, you put the
00:32:36
name of the character.
00:32:37
>> No, you put character.
00:32:38
>> Yeah.
00:32:39
>> Yeah. I remember, you know, I saw
00:32:40
yesterday Ian Maxton.
00:32:42
>> Remember when
00:32:43
>> Remember when
00:32:45
Norm knocked him out cold?
00:32:47
>> Oh,
00:32:48
>> you remember that?
00:32:48
>> I think he scored.
00:32:49
>> I don't ever see Norm being whatever
00:32:52
you're about to say.
00:32:52
>> Dave was Why not?
00:32:54
>> I don't know.
00:32:55
>> Norm violent. I never saw I was always I
00:32:58
don't want to say I was violent.
00:32:59
>> He squirted it with water by chance, you
00:33:01
know.
00:33:02
>> But uh
00:33:02
>> it was a cigarette thing. So Norm would
00:33:04
smoke after the no smoking. Like this is
00:33:06
people don't understand like it used to
00:33:08
be like you could smoke in buildings. It
00:33:09
was like whatever.
00:33:10
>> And then all of a sudden it was like by
00:33:12
the way like you're not allowed to smoke
00:33:13
in buildings anymore. So there was a
00:33:14
grace period of people like oh that's
00:33:16
right. I forgot or they didn't care. So
00:33:18
Norm was on the same where Farley got
00:33:20
>> where I tackled Farley. He was on that
00:33:22
couch smoking and Ian Max Graham all six
00:33:25
10 of them walks in with his little
00:33:27
[ __ ] yogurt. You always had like
00:33:28
>> Excuse me.
00:33:29
>> You mean you mean gay?
00:33:31
>> Uh a festive yogurt.
00:33:33
>> Happy. That was the name of it. Was
00:33:34
happy gay yogurt. And um
00:33:37
>> and he walked in with his yogurt and
00:33:38
oats and uh Norm smoking and he had a
00:33:42
glass a plastic cup of water and he just
00:33:44
looked at Norm and he threw the water on
00:33:46
Norm and Norm just stood up one punch
00:33:49
out.
00:33:51
>> Norm was deceptively a big guy. You
00:33:53
don't really think of it. I mean, he was
00:33:55
sort of a bean pole in a way in the '9s.
00:33:57
Thicker,
00:33:58
>> big.
00:33:59
>> Do you remember when you guys did the uh
00:34:01
the Crystal Meth Sketch? Like you were
00:34:03
like Tony Robbins, the weight loss guy.
00:34:05
I It was I think it was you and Fred and
00:34:07
it was Ride the Snake.
00:34:08
>> Oh, yeah. Ride the Snake.
00:34:10
>> You know, they show uh basically you get
00:34:11
people hooked on meth to lose weight
00:34:14
>> and and uh on those commercials where
00:34:16
they'll show like an outline of a fat
00:34:18
body and it says like after 6 weeks and
00:34:20
it goes in a little bit. This one was
00:34:21
like six hours and it was like a
00:34:22
skeleton.
00:34:23
>> Yeah. And so he's getting so they have
00:34:25
this thing of Farley at a drive-through
00:34:27
window, a pre-f filmed piece, and he's
00:34:29
like, "Let me have 14 cheeseburgers, 14
00:34:31
apple pies, 22 French fries, and three
00:34:34
chocolate milkshakes." And the guy in
00:34:36
the box goes, "Will that be all?" And he
00:34:39
goes, "No, I'll also have." So we argued
00:34:43
for two hours over what the back end of
00:34:45
that order should be. Like he should
00:34:47
just repeat the exact same order or
00:34:48
like, "No, make that diet coke." Or,
00:34:51
"No, give me three apple pies." And for
00:34:53
two hours, you know, it just goes around
00:34:55
and around and Norm was in the corner
00:34:58
>> of the room like we it was I think it
00:35:00
was 3:30 in the morning at this point.
00:35:01
Norm goes, "Hey, you know, you guys have
00:35:03
Chris at that drivethru window, you
00:35:06
know, go and give me all these burgers,
00:35:07
you know." And uh the guy in the box
00:35:10
goes, "Hey, will that be all?" And how
00:35:12
about Chris says, "Yes,
00:35:17
>> it's a great norm."
00:35:20
>> That's an incredible norm. When they
00:35:21
filmed it, Chris had like this look of
00:35:24
incredible pride.
00:35:27
The guy goes, "Will that be all?" I
00:35:28
remember his arms. He goes,
00:35:31
>> "Yes."
00:35:33
>> He was already working for him. Like, he
00:35:35
had different habits at this point in
00:35:37
his crystal meth.
00:35:38
>> I mean, I think
00:35:41
Norm with one syllable, we were just a
00:35:43
pack of dogs hunting in the wrong
00:35:45
direction. And Norm's like, "Hey, yes."
00:35:47
>> Simplified it.
00:35:49
>> Yeah. We would go back and forth over
00:35:51
many jokes like that. Like how do you
00:35:52
get out of a sketch?
00:35:54
>> And you if you're the writer of the
00:35:55
sketch or if it's your sketch, you do
00:35:57
get to pick like you get a Downey
00:35:59
throwing a joke in a smile, a Frank and
00:36:01
it's great and you get to add you like
00:36:03
when Rob did Copy Machine and everyone's
00:36:06
like sting stinging, you know, everyone
00:36:09
throw in any thing and he you get the
00:36:11
benefit of a room. Every sketch does,
00:36:13
not just Rob's everyone. That's fun.
00:36:16
down here. I remember once was like week
00:36:17
three and he goes, "You know, I got um I
00:36:20
want to talk to you about comedy writing
00:36:21
at some point." And I was like, "Oh,
00:36:23
yeah."
00:36:23
>> About what? Comedy writing.
00:36:24
>> Comedy writing. I was like, "Great."
00:36:26
>> And so I was like, "Hey, you got time?"
00:36:27
And he's like, "No, not today. It'll be
00:36:29
like down the line. Me and you are going
00:36:30
to sit down. I want to talk to you about
00:36:31
comedy writing." So it's my like week, I
00:36:35
don't know, 17.
00:36:36
>> Yeah.
00:36:37
>> And he goes, "Jay, what are you doing?"
00:36:39
Like he goes, "When when are we going to
00:36:41
have that talk about comedy right?" And
00:36:43
I was like, "I'm ready." And he goes,
00:36:44
"Come on in."
00:36:45
I go in his office and he goes, "You
00:36:47
know what the three funniest words in
00:36:49
comedy are?" I go, "No." He goes,
00:36:50
"Full-blown aids."
00:36:52
>> Fullblown AIDS.
00:36:54
>> And I go, "Yeah." He goes, "Yeah." All
00:36:56
right.
00:36:57
>> Thanks for coming by.
00:36:58
>> And that was it.
00:36:59
>> He set me up for four months. Set you
00:37:01
up.
00:37:01
>> Four months. And he says,
00:37:02
>> "When are we going to have that talk?"
00:37:04
>> Full-blown.
00:37:05
>> We saw Downey this week.
00:37:06
>> Really?
00:37:07
>> And I haven't seen
00:37:07
>> I had dinner with him last night.
00:37:08
>> Yeah. He talked about the Indian British
00:37:12
war uh in 1740 for like an hour.
00:37:15
Unbelievable.
00:37:17
This just in Oh, yeah. It's so fun to
00:37:19
listen to him talk about American
00:37:20
history. He'll go into a college library
00:37:23
for hours in Yale or something. He's
00:37:25
just
00:37:26
>> I love when he turn up on sketches or
00:37:27
like when Smiggle would turn up on a
00:37:29
sketch. I always feel like
00:37:31
>> somebody from the other side c cracked
00:37:33
through.
00:37:33
>> He cracked through. It's hard being a
00:37:36
feature player. I think Odenkirk and
00:37:37
Conan were feature players and they
00:37:39
never got a fair shake to be in
00:37:41
especially when I was there. It was
00:37:42
>> the only time I saw Conan on camera was
00:37:43
that get handsome sketch when Mike Myers
00:37:45
was doing Get Handsome Handsome or
00:37:47
whatever.
00:37:48
>> One of the guys in the audience like I
00:37:49
got handsome.
00:37:50
>> Oh yeah, that was probably for a Alec
00:37:53
Baldwin type host too.
00:37:54
>> How about the amount of rewrites when
00:37:56
they're not needed? Like Mike Myers
00:37:58
would just hand in these perfect
00:37:59
sketches and you just sit in a room for
00:38:01
eight hours and guys would just dissect
00:38:03
his sketch.
00:38:05
Bro, it's it's just it's why are we
00:38:07
doing it?
00:38:07
>> It's perfect.
00:38:08
>> If people at home don't know that the
00:38:10
rewrite rewrite table, what it start at
00:38:12
1 on Thursday after read through read
00:38:14
through Wednesday.
00:38:15
>> I mean, ideally
00:38:16
>> it starts around 1
00:38:18
>> roughly and it goes till about 4 a.m. So
00:38:20
you're there. That's a long haul. And uh
00:38:23
every sketch gets about two hours or
00:38:25
something. It's just gets my
00:38:26
>> What was the name of the restaurant you
00:38:27
mentioned? You
00:38:28
>> Wally and Joseph.
00:38:28
>> I remember I went there. I felt like a a
00:38:30
big shot when you were like, "Come on,
00:38:32
we're going."
00:38:32
>> Oh, yeah. It's fun. Wally and Josephs
00:38:34
and I but I always felt because you came
00:38:36
in with like Timmy and like you said
00:38:38
like Adam and Rob and so you guys were
00:38:40
kind of a group and then when I came in
00:38:42
anytime I was with you guys I felt like
00:38:43
a freshman hanging out with seniors.
00:38:46
>> You're in the conversation but you're
00:38:47
not really
00:38:48
>> but you weren't part of like the next
00:38:50
group. You were sort of a tweener kind
00:38:51
of right.
00:38:52
>> Yeah, totally. It was me, Sarah,
00:38:55
Norm, and all the Harvard guys like
00:38:58
Steve Lner, Lou Morton, Dave Mandel,
00:39:01
>> and then uh David Tells
00:39:04
>> There's so many Ivy League writers on
00:39:06
SNL.
00:39:07
>> I know.
00:39:07
>> I know. Where'd you go to Did you go to
00:39:09
college?
00:39:09
>> You know, no one's ever asked me that in
00:39:11
my life.
00:39:11
>> Really?
00:39:13
>> And ever. That's the first I used to
00:39:15
joke about it. Nobody's ever asked me
00:39:17
where'd you go to college. It's just
00:39:18
implied.
00:39:19
>> Only because they're Harvard, guys. This
00:39:21
is this is New Jersey public school
00:39:23
>> state, baby. 95 bucks a semester.
00:39:26
>> Yeah.
00:39:26
>> Oh, it's just a joke
00:39:29
student cuz there's no curriculum for
00:39:30
standup comedy,
00:39:31
>> right?
00:39:32
>> And so it's just like what is this?
00:39:34
We're adding letters. Like what the [ __ ]
00:39:35
are we talking about?
00:39:37
>> Yeah. Then you go but like
00:39:39
>> she just got in the clubs right out of
00:39:41
high school then.
00:39:41
>> Yeah. I started at 16. Same as you.
00:39:44
>> 16? I didn't start at 16.
00:39:45
>> Oh, what did I say?
00:39:47
>> You didn't let me finish.
00:39:48
>> You said 20.
00:39:49
>> I said 60.
00:39:50
>> Said 20.
00:39:50
>> Yeah. Hey, you didn't let me finish.
00:39:51
>> I have another question for you.
00:39:53
>> Ready?
00:39:55
>> By the way, when you look up research on
00:39:57
you, it says what Jay's favorite songs
00:39:59
are.
00:40:00
>> Really?
00:40:00
>> Why?
00:40:01
>> I think that was a Don Imus question.
00:40:02
You got to give him your top five.
00:40:04
>> All right. Here, cuz it's out in the
00:40:05
ether. What's the difference between
00:40:07
what you could talk about your first
00:40:08
marriage versus your recent marriage?
00:40:11
>> I mean, being a mature
00:40:13
later in life, being a mature adult
00:40:15
being getting married as opposed to
00:40:17
being young. Lauren said
00:40:20
>> something wise.
00:40:21
>> Every man should have three marriages.
00:40:24
>> One in his 20s and 30s, one in his 40s,
00:40:27
and the third in his 50s when he knows
00:40:29
what he really wants.
00:40:31
>> And that's exactly how it went with me.
00:40:34
>> Oh, three.
00:40:36
>> Three.
00:40:36
>> Okay.
00:40:37
>> And Jeanie's the first
00:40:39
>> I'm not going to say marriage cuz I
00:40:41
don't want to put anybody on blast, but
00:40:43
like the first woman I've ever been with
00:40:44
that just wasn't like depressed.
00:40:46
>> So, it's like interesting.
00:40:49
and like her own like, "Oh, I'm going to
00:40:50
go look at I'm going to go." What' you
00:40:51
say?
00:40:52
>> I said, "There's some blast."
00:40:54
>> No, but you're younger. I think that the
00:40:58
one I knew was an actress seemed like a
00:41:00
great girl and that I think everyone
00:41:02
just changes in life. So, you change,
00:41:05
maybe she changes, maybe it's a great
00:41:07
run and then it it just turns into
00:41:09
something else where it doesn't work
00:41:10
out.
00:41:11
>> I was never the first one I just was
00:41:12
never like in love. It
00:41:14
>> just sort of that's how it goes. That's
00:41:16
the progression of a relationship.
00:41:17
somebody, you know, when you're dating
00:41:19
somebody and you're young and they go,
00:41:20
"Why don't why don't we go steady?" And
00:41:21
you're like, "You know, cuz I'm from the
00:41:23
50s." Yeah.
00:41:24
>> When are you going to wear my sweater,
00:41:25
my pin?
00:41:26
>> When are you going to do this? When are
00:41:27
we going to live together? And you're
00:41:28
like, "All right, [ __ ] you know,
00:41:29
we'll live together." Turn into Colin
00:41:31
Quinn. All right, we'll live together.
00:41:33
>> Yeah, let's not, you know, cohabitate
00:41:35
too long.
00:41:36
>> I digress.
00:41:37
>> And that is a great callin to call these
00:41:40
out. He just did a brilliant call.
00:41:42
>> When are we going to get engaged? When
00:41:43
are when are you going to get married?
00:41:44
And the proposal was like, "There's your
00:41:47
ring. Are you happy? Like that's
00:41:48
actually how it went. So that's not a
00:41:50
good
00:41:50
>> So that how long did that last?
00:41:52
>> Six years.
00:41:53
>> But I was on the show and she was in LA.
00:41:55
So I was
00:41:56
>> Let me insert this. Did you ever hear
00:41:58
Lauren say this? Um there's something
00:42:00
about a man in his 40s and a woman in
00:42:02
her 20s. They're both at the peak of
00:42:04
their power.
00:42:06
>> Did he say that?
00:42:06
>> It's almost Dr. Evil.
00:42:07
>> That was almost Jimmy Stewart.
00:42:09
>> Yeah. They're both at the peak of their
00:42:10
power.
00:42:13
>> And the other quote, have you heard this
00:42:14
one? I said it on the podcast. Lauren
00:42:16
again, marriage is a prison that
00:42:18
everyone's trying to escape into.
00:42:21
>> You know who said that? Chris Jenner.
00:42:23
>> Anyway,
00:42:26
so the second marriage,
00:42:28
>> but I don't even know what you said cuz
00:42:29
I was I'm embarrassed how I was all
00:42:31
fired up. I had Colin holsters.
00:42:33
>> Well, I wanted to call out that you're
00:42:35
just he's Jay is throwing in these
00:42:37
subtle impressions. So, give us a little
00:42:38
quote. I'll give you
00:42:40
>> What was the quote, though?
00:42:40
>> Oh, yeah. Marriage. Marriage is a prison
00:42:43
that everyone's trying to escape into. H
00:42:46
well I don't I don't feel that way this
00:42:48
time because I'm you gota understand.
00:42:50
Okay. All right. Let's break it down.
00:42:52
>> I've been as of today I've been sober
00:42:55
two years and 6 months.
00:42:56
>> Oh that's it.
00:42:57
>> So I met Jeanie after my divorce where
00:43:00
that a divorce is the biggest
00:43:05
hole in your soul because you get
00:43:07
married because you're certain it's an
00:43:09
impossibility that you're going to get
00:43:10
divor. That's why you get married like
00:43:12
oh this is it. This is great. And then
00:43:14
when that starts when the panels kind of
00:43:16
start coming off the space shuttle, it's
00:43:19
it gets it you get nuts.
00:43:21
>> Christy McAlliff said the same thing.
00:43:23
>> And it it feels to me like a marriage
00:43:25
the one thing a marriage can't can't
00:43:27
survive is contempt.
00:43:30
>> Yeah.
00:43:30
>> Either from either side.
00:43:33
>> And you were not if you were if you were
00:43:35
drink or whatever.
00:43:36
>> Well, what was your drug of choice? Were
00:43:38
you alcohol?
00:43:38
>> This time it was aderall. I went I went
00:43:41
down. Oh, it helped me focus on getting
00:43:44
>> I think more people do that. So then you
00:43:46
started taking it just to feel okay
00:43:48
after the divorce. It was like well [ __ ]
00:43:49
like I want to I just wanted to like
00:43:51
feel something. I' I've always been a
00:43:53
drug addict and an alcoholic. It wasn't
00:43:54
like this one event made me this thing.
00:43:57
Like I was an alcoholic and drug addict
00:43:59
when I was born and long before I ever
00:44:01
picked up a drink. I I've always needed
00:44:03
more than anybody else in every
00:44:05
capacity.
00:44:06
>> And yeah, it's just a genetic brain.
00:44:07
Everybody else has this like plan for
00:44:09
living that I'm not aware of and I'm I
00:44:10
always felt like on the outside looking
00:44:12
in.
00:44:12
>> Like if you and I were kids
00:44:14
>> and uh I was at your house and we were
00:44:16
on your couch watching TV, I would spend
00:44:18
that entire time trying to convince you
00:44:20
that we were having a good time on your
00:44:21
couch watching TV.
00:44:22
>> Like I was just needy. Desperation's got
00:44:25
a very distinct scent and I stunk.
00:44:27
>> Well, yeah. That's Well, we all are
00:44:30
having a fist fight in our head either a
00:44:32
lot or a little. Yeah. You know. So I I
00:44:34
quit drinking 1998 and then I used drugs
00:44:38
alcoholically. I'm a big pill guy. I
00:44:40
love pills. So it was like Viking and
00:44:42
Norcco and then when I stopped that a
00:44:43
couple times and then Adderall is the
00:44:45
one that brought down the beast and um
00:44:48
>> so that the divorce didn't make me use I
00:44:51
chose to go back to using drugs. Like I
00:44:53
felt like I was I like having a secret
00:44:54
like I'm getting away with something
00:44:56
like Yeah.
00:44:56
>> So this is right when the pandemic was
00:44:58
starting kind of
00:44:59
>> before in the middle of the pandemic was
00:45:00
fantastic. Oh, I was just snorting
00:45:02
aderall and I was paddle boarding and
00:45:04
fishing for my paddle board. I was just
00:45:05
insane. I lived in Malibu on the water
00:45:08
and I would just snort rails of
00:45:10
>> Did it make you lose a tremendous amount
00:45:11
of weight?
00:45:11
>> Oh, yeah. I went into treatment at like
00:45:13
160.
00:45:14
>> I just was all I'll show you my before.
00:45:16
>> You know, aderal is big. I was having
00:45:17
lunch with people about only like a year
00:45:19
ago and a guy goes, "I wish I had my
00:45:21
aderal with me. I don't have one." And
00:45:23
the waitress came out. He goes, "Do you
00:45:24
have an Adder?" She goes, "Yeah,
00:45:25
>> yeah, it's
00:45:26
>> And I was like, does everyone have?"
00:45:27
Like, yeah, I know people just take a a
00:45:29
decent amount to and then write or do a
00:45:32
project.
00:45:33
>> Yeah.
00:45:33
>> But but then add addiction is a whole
00:45:35
another
00:45:35
>> Well, it's hard to keep it in check, I'm
00:45:36
sure.
00:45:37
>> So, I met Jeanie at the very beginning
00:45:40
where it was like manage. It's fun fun
00:45:42
with problems then it's problems. So,
00:45:44
she met me at the fun and then it was
00:45:45
fun with problems. She was I had a radio
00:45:47
show and I interviewed her over the
00:45:49
phone
00:45:50
>> and I imagined that there was like a
00:45:52
vibe there over the phone. I like, "All
00:45:54
right, joining us now is Genie Bus on
00:45:56
the on the hotline." And then I went to
00:45:59
the Twitter DM. I asked her to do my
00:46:01
podcast and then I had left my house. I
00:46:05
was staying at the Beverly Hills Hotel
00:46:07
and when I went to the elevators to go
00:46:10
get her. When she walked out of the
00:46:11
elevator, it was just
00:46:13
>> I was done. Like it was slow motion. It
00:46:15
was it was actually for me it was love.
00:46:17
>> You talk to her on the phone or over in
00:46:19
the radio and then you see her in
00:46:20
person. So the vibe is so strong, just
00:46:23
instant.
00:46:24
>> I mean, I think it was one-sided, like,
00:46:25
you know, she was she I don't think she
00:46:27
had love at first sight, but I like I
00:46:29
remember it was slow motion. I remember
00:46:30
like there was a green elevator door and
00:46:32
that palm tree carpet. I was like, whoa.
00:46:34
And I just wanted to be with her all the
00:46:36
time.
00:46:38
>> And then
00:46:38
>> cool, she's a happy person is kind of
00:46:40
what you allude to. Like a that's that's
00:46:43
very
00:46:43
>> Well, I'm a happy person, too. Like
00:46:45
that's
00:46:45
>> But you were coming right off the
00:46:47
addiction at that point.
00:46:48
>> Yeah. And it was like this person like I
00:46:50
I I don't know. It was just like I it
00:46:52
was a puzzle piece that had been missing
00:46:54
>> from my big jigsaw puzzle my whole life
00:46:57
I felt. And um then my drug addiction
00:47:00
got really bad and she was at my
00:47:02
intervention
00:47:03
>> which was at my an intervention being
00:47:05
the worst surprise party you'll ever go
00:47:07
to. You walk in like everybody you love
00:47:10
is there and you're like hey oh no
00:47:13
>> and I thought she did the intervention.
00:47:15
So, you know when you angry pack, you
00:47:17
either never take your eyes off, you
00:47:19
either don't look at them at all.
00:47:21
>> Yeah.
00:47:21
>> Or you never take your eyes off them.
00:47:23
>> Angry packing.
00:47:24
>> Yeah. So, I was like I was just angry
00:47:26
packing for rehab and I never took my
00:47:28
eyes off a genie and then I got to rehab
00:47:30
and all I had was socks.
00:47:34
>> Yeah.
00:47:35
>> And then, you know, so she stuck with
00:47:37
me.
00:47:37
>> She stuck with you. That's a big deal.
00:47:38
>> The like I was a mess. Like I was a
00:47:41
mess. There's If the world was fair,
00:47:43
like we definitely wouldn't be together.
00:47:44
I I would have lost that that prize. And
00:47:48
we got married last week. It's 8 days
00:47:50
today. We've been married.
00:47:51
>> Any SNL people?
00:47:53
>> No.
00:47:54
>> They're gross.
00:47:55
>> There's only 20 people.
00:47:57
>> Yeah. I guess the odds are all
00:47:58
>> David, I need you to pick the energy up
00:48:00
a little bit.
00:48:02
>> This J
00:48:04
NPR over here.
00:48:06
>> No, you're talking about something nice.
00:48:07
I'm trying to shut the [ __ ] up for a
00:48:09
second. It's hard. It's very hard.
00:48:15
So now this marriage is like none other
00:48:18
like the not nothing against the first
00:48:20
two wives.
00:48:21
>> No, I think it's like it's also like you
00:48:23
know it's your last.
00:48:24
>> Yeah.
00:48:25
>> It's like I'm 53.
00:48:26
>> Mhm. And it's um when you've when you've
00:48:31
been so
00:48:33
humbled and demoralized
00:48:36
and you've come completely undone
00:48:40
and then you've brick by brick and stone
00:48:42
by stone built yourself back up into a
00:48:44
human being that you've been meant to be
00:48:46
the whole time and that person's waiting
00:48:49
for you at the end of that journey.
00:48:50
>> Mhm.
00:48:51
>> I mean that's who else would you want to
00:48:53
spend the rest of your life? What what's
00:48:55
your coping mechanisms when you feel bad
00:48:57
if it's not at all or whatever?
00:48:59
>> I'm a weird guy. Like I don't really
00:49:00
>> Do you meditate? Do you take a
00:49:01
>> Yeah, every day? I don't really feel bad
00:49:03
though. I'm one of those weird I'm wired
00:49:04
weird like I'm
00:49:05
>> for an addict. Usually it's
00:49:07
>> a comic even like I just wake up kind of
00:49:09
fired up.
00:49:10
>> I always known you to be upbeat.
00:49:12
>> Yeah, I'm a happy dude. Yeah, like I've
00:49:13
always been that way. I don't know. It's
00:49:14
just sometimes it's just the way your
00:49:16
hard drive is installed.
00:49:17
>> I think so. It feels like it's a
00:49:18
thermostat that you get at first. Even
00:49:20
if I was on the color cover of Rolling
00:49:22
Stone or something, I felt I was always
00:49:24
in this certain range
00:49:26
>> on a 1 to 10, maybe maybe six or a
00:49:28
seven. Not happy golucky, but it stayed
00:49:31
kind of consistent.
00:49:33
>> It's Yeah. And in in addiction, it goes
00:49:35
the other way where it's just becomes
00:49:38
this mania
00:49:39
>> like also
00:49:40
>> when I was in my addiction, I was
00:49:42
diagnosed manic depressive. I was
00:49:44
diagnosed bipolar. And then I work a
00:49:46
program and I go through 12 steps for a
00:49:48
program that might be anonymous. And
00:49:51
then
00:49:52
that became I now I have like this
00:49:55
monotheism for all of my problems. Like
00:49:58
every single problem in my life, it can
00:50:01
be remedied by the program. So they're
00:50:07
not no one suggesting medication or
00:50:09
anything for
00:50:10
>> No, I actually got off that was the end
00:50:11
of the story that I forgot to put in is
00:50:13
I at about a year and a half sober. I
00:50:15
got off all my medication and it was
00:50:18
just it was a direct result of my drug
00:50:20
addiction cuz you it's like the old
00:50:22
equalizers on a car stereo where you get
00:50:24
them just right and when you snort
00:50:26
aderall you just b you just blast them
00:50:28
all up to 10 across treble bass fader
00:50:31
this and then when you come off them
00:50:33
boom they come crashing back down and
00:50:34
then you just keep jamming them back and
00:50:36
forth back and forth and it's just not
00:50:38
an accurate it's just not an accurate
00:50:40
gauge of how you're actually feeling cuz
00:50:42
you're either in mania or you're just
00:50:44
completely panicked cuz you're going to
00:50:45
run out of drugs.
00:50:46
>> Damn.
00:50:47
>> So, Saturday Night Live is an
00:50:49
emotionally violent uh place for anyone
00:50:52
with mental health stuff or
00:50:54
>> Yeah. But I was I'm
00:50:56
one of the best things I learned in
00:50:58
recovery was that I'm I am the reason
00:51:00
for all of my suffering, which thrilled
00:51:03
me because if I'm the reason for my
00:51:05
suffering, then I always have a
00:51:07
solution. I can change how I'm looking
00:51:09
at something or I can go be of service
00:51:11
and help somebody else. And then just
00:51:13
because if I'm pissed off, it's it's
00:51:15
really just a perverse
00:51:17
>> selfishness because if I'm pissed off,
00:51:18
I'm only thinking about me.
00:51:20
>> So, as an alcohol, an active alcoholic
00:51:22
on Saturday Night Live, it's you know,
00:51:24
woe is me. Poor me, poor me, pour me a
00:51:26
drink. So, it's like I didn't get my I
00:51:29
didn't get my sketch on like, oh, this
00:51:31
[ __ ] bl
00:51:32
>> and that's if I if I could do it again,
00:51:35
if I to be I guess it's like the classic
00:51:38
SNL lament. Oh, if I could be 53 in that
00:51:42
23 year old body and just be like,
00:51:45
>> "Okay,
00:51:46
>> I can deal with it."
00:51:46
>> I get to watch Nirvana rehearse. All
00:51:48
right.
00:51:48
>> I know. You didn't even think of how
00:51:50
great we had like see Nirvana in the
00:51:52
cafeteria eating.
00:51:53
>> I never felt like they owed me anything.
00:51:55
Or even in standup. I remember I would
00:51:57
talk to young comedians like they get
00:51:59
all into the drama. Yeah. I was friends
00:52:02
>> into the drama of standup. I'm getting
00:52:04
[ __ ] man. I should be middling by
00:52:06
now. They put that guy getting all wound
00:52:08
up in that.
00:52:09
>> But I think guys like you and me had a
00:52:11
lot of success quickly.
00:52:14
>> Like it was sort of Yeah. Don't you
00:52:16
think so? Like you're I'm like
00:52:18
>> I had a lot of stage fright. Well, there
00:52:21
were no comedy clubs when I started.
00:52:22
Literally, I open the key to enjoying
00:52:24
the benefits of the program.
00:52:26
>> Yeah.
00:52:27
>> That'll set you back.
00:52:28
>> Yeah. Just opening for bands and getting
00:52:31
annihilated stuff. Normal stuff. But
00:52:33
once I got into a club, a real club, not
00:52:35
a not a honky tonk bar like the other
00:52:37
cafe and the hate, I started to progress
00:52:40
just because of the environment.
00:52:41
>> Yeah. Well, your talent though, it's you
00:52:43
you can't it's you can't deny it. I
00:52:46
think it's Would you say that you rose
00:52:49
quickly once you got into the right
00:52:51
environment of clubs? I would say that
00:52:53
as quickly as I can that I never was
00:52:56
able to wrap my mind around like I'm one
00:52:59
of those guys like I'm going to be on TV
00:53:02
like like Jerry Lewis or Jackie Lisa or
00:53:04
something. And so I was I did a lot of
00:53:07
shitty television.
00:53:08
>> Yeah.
00:53:09
>> Because I had no they offered me Blue
00:53:11
Thunder and I was in a helicopter James
00:53:13
Fentino who was coked out and drinking
00:53:15
straight vodka. Fantastic
00:53:16
>> by the way. And u
00:53:18
>> what else do you do in
00:53:20
>> So it it it In retrospect, it seems like
00:53:24
>> I had I played Morango Casino and they
00:53:28
>> they sent a helicopter for me.
00:53:30
>> [ __ ] yeah.
00:53:30
>> And my pilot was Lorenzo Llamas.
00:53:32
>> Shut the fudge up actor.
00:53:34
>> Yeah. At at Vanise airport. They're
00:53:36
like, "This is your pilot. We call him
00:53:38
Lorenzo Llamas." And I was like, "H
00:53:40
yeah, he looks like him." And then we're
00:53:41
like somewhere over like Ontario and
00:53:43
it's I look at him, it says Llamas on
00:53:45
his headset
00:53:45
>> to make to grind it into you.
00:53:47
>> Yeah. I was like
00:53:48
>> to make sure you ask him.
00:53:50
>> Yeah. only on my side.
00:53:53
>> I was only on my side.
00:53:54
>> Switch it
00:53:57
>> and I wanted to ask him like, "Are you
00:53:59
Lorenzo Llamas?" But I didn't want to be
00:54:01
that obvious. So I was like, "Hm." So I
00:54:02
was like, "How much money do you think
00:54:05
you've left on the table doing this?"
00:54:06
That was pretty smooth to ask him that,
00:54:08
right?
00:54:08
>> Is that what you said?
00:54:09
>> Instead of saying like, "Are you" and he
00:54:11
goes, "Oh, of 95% of it." I'm like,
00:54:13
"Okay, that's Lorenzo Llamas."
00:54:15
>> Yeah. He's a helicopter pilot.
00:54:19
He just digs it. And then he stayed I
00:54:21
said, "Come to the show." And he's like,
00:54:22
"I'm not supposed to." I'm like, "Come
00:54:24
on." So he stayed he stayed for the show
00:54:26
and then we flew home and somewhere over
00:54:29
like the desert he goes, "Do you mind if
00:54:30
we stop for gas?"
00:54:32
>> A helicopter.
00:54:33
>> Who says no to that
00:54:35
>> in the helicop?
00:54:40
>> What do you want? E.
00:54:41
>> Before Jay goes, I have to tell him one
00:54:43
more thing. was I
00:54:46
I auditioned for Jerry Magcguire.
00:54:48
>> You did?
00:54:49
>> Yeah. For your part.
00:54:51
>> Really?
00:54:51
>> Yeah. Bob Sugar.
00:54:52
>> Interesting.
00:54:53
>> So, who got it?
00:54:54
>> Anyway, um No, I remember
00:54:57
>> you had it when I when we were
00:54:58
auditioning.
00:54:59
>> Is that Cameron Crow?
00:55:00
>> Yes. There was already an offer to Owen
00:55:03
Wilson because
00:55:04
>> they had done Jim Brooks and Owen Wilson
00:55:06
had already done Bottle Rocket together.
00:55:08
So by the time that I don't know about
00:55:10
you, but but hey, when I do
00:55:13
this part,
00:55:14
>> when I do Wilson, it sounds like
00:55:16
Jennifer Coolage.
00:55:18
>> I mean, I I I try to do it,
00:55:21
>> but my mouth gets too tight. And I like
00:55:23
I say, we take it up, but
00:55:25
>> I do him telling a toddler, you can't
00:55:27
have any more candy.
00:55:28
>> Please let me
00:55:29
>> I don't think you should have any more
00:55:31
candy.
00:55:33
>> I'm just doing Melissa. I love that guy.
00:55:35
>> I do a Haunted Mansion. And I'm like,
00:55:37
"Oh, he was on the screen." I'm like,
00:55:38
>> "Owen Wilson,
00:55:39
>> I love this guy."
00:55:40
>> Woody Harrelson, Matthew McConna. Yeah.
00:55:42
>> Three Texas eccentrics. Put them in some
00:55:46
movie. Hollywood.
00:55:47
>> I love those guys.
00:55:48
>> Here's my Colin Quinn. When I said his
00:55:50
friend just moved in with his
00:55:51
girlfriend, I go,
00:55:53
>> "Does he did he like moving in with his
00:55:55
girlfriend?" He goes, "What do you
00:55:56
think?"
00:55:56
>> What do you think?
00:55:59
>> Anyway,
00:56:00
>> I got before we leave, I don't know.
00:56:01
This is a quick podcast. I got to tell
00:56:03
you two spade stories that are
00:56:05
fantastic.
00:56:05
>> Oh, I love it. We're uh I was doing I
00:56:08
went back to see the show and I was
00:56:10
filming Picture Perfect with Jennifer
00:56:12
Anderson and I see Davey in the hallway
00:56:15
and he goes, "How do you like working
00:56:17
with Jenny?"
00:56:18
>> And I go, "I'm such a dick." I go, "I
00:56:21
don't know. She smokes cigarettes." And
00:56:23
he goes, "Let her down easy.
00:56:26
Is that the most David joke ever?"
00:56:28
>> That is exactly how it went.
00:56:30
>> Let her down easy. And he did that David
00:56:32
thing when he goes
00:56:34
>> and then uh we we were at a strip club
00:56:38
>> and um the dancer I'm being generous the
00:56:42
dancer the artist
00:56:44
>> you know like when male bodybuilders
00:56:46
they can flex their pecs.
00:56:47
>> Arnold used to do that. Yeah.
00:56:49
>> So this girl would do it and so she's
00:56:52
dancing for David and she's going like
00:56:54
doing the bodybuilder boob flex and it's
00:56:56
like and like two songs go by and she
00:56:59
circles back around and she does it
00:57:02
again and David goes seen it.
00:57:07
>> She just she was like like she going to
00:57:11
be she just got humiliated like that.
00:57:15
>> You were like seen it
00:57:16
>> seen it. That's very David. Yes. God, it
00:57:20
reminds me. We went over We got a
00:57:22
picture with Oh, what? Who cares? Uh,
00:57:24
okay. Thank you, Jay. We We You have the
00:57:26
best [ __ ] stories. This is great.
00:57:28
Thank you for coming on, buddy.
00:57:29
>> Amazing.
00:57:30
>> This is great. It's easy, right? Easy.
00:57:31
>> Like, you could do it on Zoom. I'm like,
00:57:33
"Oh, I want to hang out."
00:57:34
>> No, it's fun to come in here. We like
00:57:35
when people come in.
00:57:36
>> We We do a lot of Zooms. Trust me.
00:57:38
>> A lot of Zooms.
00:57:39
>> A lot of Zooms. But we uh
00:57:41
>> Carcenio.
00:57:42
>> Oh, yeah.
00:57:42
>> Um, yeah. I I understand that a uh a
00:57:45
crib is uh your house and your a bed. I
00:57:49
know. I can't
00:57:52
long fingers.
00:57:52
>> Got to love a [ __ ] wig.
00:57:56
>> Cario.
00:57:58
>> I Yeah, I'll show you something when
00:58:00
we're done here.
00:58:01
>> Oh, yeah.
00:58:01
>> Because it's it's it's Farley and and
00:58:04
Hartman on on a Carson episode.
00:58:07
>> Was it Were they Dom Deloise and uh
00:58:09
>> Domo Reynolds
00:58:11
>> where they flip out? Did you ever see
00:58:12
that? Yes. So [ __ ] funny.
00:58:15
>> Do you remember when Far on the Scared
00:58:16
Straight motivational speaker, we we
00:58:19
made an arrangement like when Farley
00:58:20
falls through the wall of the prison, we
00:58:23
were all going to run out. We're then we
00:58:24
all run out.
00:58:26
>> We're all going to fall on top of Chris
00:58:28
>> as a joke.
00:58:29
>> So he can't come back in and say live
00:58:30
from New York.
00:58:31
>> Oh, that's funny.
00:58:32
>> So Chris goes through the wall. Me, you,
00:58:34
Sandler, Schneider, and Timmy fall on
00:58:37
top of Chris and he just lifts us up
00:58:39
like leave bags.
00:58:41
like he didn't the peak
00:58:45
>> not even one second was was it didn't
00:58:48
just from New York
00:58:51
>> and he had he had the line where him and
00:58:54
Martin Lawrence are selling us back and
00:58:55
forth for cigarettes cuz that's the
00:58:57
prison thing and Harley was supposed to
00:59:00
go sold seven [ __ ] to the homie in
00:59:03
the cornrows and it said so you're the
00:59:05
camera he goes sold seven [ __ ] to the
00:59:08
corny in the homie Rose oops
00:59:12
He just looks
00:59:13
>> looks in the camera.
00:59:17
>> Oh, I love you, Chris.
00:59:18
>> All right.
00:59:19
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00:59:25
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Episode Highlights

  • Chris Farley's Comedy
    A look back at Chris Farley's unique comedic style and memorable moments.
    “He's always been funny.”
    @ 00m 35s
    April 01, 2026
  • Wrestling with Chris Farley
    A hilarious recount of a wrestling match gone wrong with Chris Farley.
    “I really thought my life was going to end.”
    @ 04m 07s
    April 01, 2026
  • The Fun of SNL
    A light-hearted reflection on the chaotic and entertaining atmosphere of SNL.
    “Being on Saturday Night Live is a barrel of monkeys.”
    @ 10m 40s
    April 01, 2026
  • The Pressure of Comedy
    Navigating the tough early days in comedy, where every sketch feels like a gamble.
    “If you're not getting stuff on, you start to lose your mind.”
    @ 17m 17s
    April 01, 2026
  • Impressions and Originality
    Exploring the balance between mimicking and creating original characters in comedy.
    “I'm just mimicking. And I remember when Jim Downey said, you know, go to the guy's offices and just do impressions.”
    @ 17m 46s
    April 01, 2026
  • The Struggle for Recognition
    The challenge of getting noticed in a competitive environment, feeling like an outsider.
    “You almost have to go sell yourself, which is what we both didn’t do.”
    @ 26m 08s
    April 01, 2026
  • The Three Marriages Theory
    Lauren suggests every man should have three marriages at different life stages.
    “Every man should have three marriages.”
    @ 40m 21s
    April 01, 2026
  • Marriage as a Prison
    A humorous yet poignant take on the nature of marriage.
    “Marriage is a prison that everyone's trying to escape into.”
    @ 42m 18s
    April 01, 2026
  • Love at First Sight
    Describing the moment he met Jeanie, he felt it was love at first sight.
    “It was actually for me it was love.”
    @ 46m 13s
    April 01, 2026
  • A Unique Marriage
    After overcoming struggles, the speaker reflects on the significance of their new marriage.
    “It’s like I’m 53. It’s your last.”
    @ 48m 25s
    April 01, 2026
  • Personal Responsibility
    The speaker shares a powerful realization about suffering and solutions.
    “I’m the reason for all of my suffering.”
    @ 51m 00s
    April 01, 2026
  • Helicopter Ride with a Twist
    A humorous encounter with a helicopter pilot leads to an unexpected request.
    “Who says no to that in the helicopter?”
    @ 54m 33s
    April 01, 2026

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  • Chris Farley Stories10:37
  • Impressionist Dilemma17:46
  • Struggle for Recognition26:08
  • Three Marriages40:21
  • Love at First Sight46:13
  • Newly Married47:48
  • Mental Health Insights50:52
  • Helicopter Adventure54:33

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