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Jesus Christ what are you the new Liberace you know put a new outfit but
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we're talking about Spade uh uh talking about space now we're talking about what
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have you been drinking May looks uh we're talking about Paul McCartney the Paul McCartney
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this is our big uh exciting uh first musical guest I think we've had on the
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show from SNL well I'm you know I'm a beetle fanatic and the fact that we got
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Paul I'd sent him an email very casually because I sort of know him I guess and
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uh just gently said we'd love to have you and then and then what happened next
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David I think we heard the next day he said what do we do on the phone or do we do it in person or how do we do
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it and so we we did it within a week well okay so for my side of it okay wasn't so easy peasy
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hey a lot of moving inputs I was going on vacation I was driving with my wife
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my mother-in-law I was Irish and stunning and she's 91 and my son and
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we're just driving through Wyoming and we're just having fun on our way to Montana for a reunion type thing and
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then our manager goes my company can do it on Friday and they said how's Friday for you both of you we will said horrible it's absolutely couldn't have
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picked the worst time I'm in the mountains I can't even hear them
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beat up you know so then I'm not vacationing anymore I'm like oh so we're
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at this three star because we don't like fancy pants in Jackson Hole and the way you can
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catch fish in the pool with your hand hey I'm in Jacksonville and then you just eat it but the uh the Wi-Fi sucked
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and I'm trying to do what am I going to ask Paul McCartney and so I had to go up
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to the Four Seasons at Teton Village same time and check into a room for the
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night it was one million dollars was the room and so I went up there in a lightning storm and then the next
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morning I'm at a little desk I'm trying to get the laptop we're going to zoom in with Paul McCartney I'm very kind of
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nervous and then on the screen I can see that David is having you forward to New
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York and you're what's going on with you I was heading to uh sold out I guess that's not really part of the story
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that's not the point and uh I was going there and I had to cancel my flight and
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uh and do this do this and then go late to the show and hopefully I make it and
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then my wife I didn't work in my hotel and it dropped out the 10 minutes while we're on screen with it I dropped out of
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from you twice so I just said if I drop out with Paul go on without me oh I just saw that technicians leaning in guys
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with beards there'd be a beard and then a rubber band and then more beard they were just leaning into frame you're just
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sitting there and it's like is he gonna make it our producer Greg is on the line no we don't know Paul's gonna pop up any
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minute I don't know if you're gonna be on it all of a sudden we see Sir Paul McCartney in our frame
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hello how are you doing so we spent a good hour talking to Paul McCartney and
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um I didn't know if I could joke I wanted to go Paul I'm kind of Dana's Yoko I didn't you know no I didn't
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either that's the thing with famous people you don't want to turn them off very early that you know so you're a
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little careful because you you just want them to have a good time we do get into what you Beetle fans love and being one
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of them is who wrote what when we know there's Leonard McCartney every song but who did what where when how and we do
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get into that with certain songs and I realized that was uh really fun for Paul and just and they're lighting a bottle
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Lynn is a genius but Paul um did a lot with that band and there was a
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period of time where he was the cute one whatever so and then uh I was gonna say oh do you think you would have spelled
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The Beatles correctly if you had spell check back then I did not ask him that um I did I do remember two things one I
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I paid about five years ago 125 000 for front row to Paul McCartney at a hundred
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and twenty five thousand yeah I mean that's a markup I mean Ticketmaster's getting ridiculous it's getting insane no I was at a benefit for it's a whole
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story but for Sean Penn for Haiti and you bid on these things and I sort of accidentally was being bullied to go
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higher anyway but I went met Paul great he came out with his guitar in that
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little tiny trailer and was singing and talking gave me drink hey have fun out there so I knew him a little bit from
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that which doesn't really count and I also in the old days I took Brittany Murphy to uh Paul McCartney
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isn't that crazy wow well I think it was a date I don't know after I hunted great row second row
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after Jackson Hole Paul called me and said who's the other guy on the zoom you know because he seemed a bit you know a
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bit dodgy me yeah I go that was David Spade oh David spude what what is it I
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didn't see the engineer ing professional Superstars
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so anyway that's my Paul that uh he did do he'll do a little bit on this he was
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fun though I have to say he was fine it was fun very funny yeah a lot of quips a
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lot of whips impressions of course right um he did go you do a good Lord
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you'll find Paul is um he's just like a real person you know it's like that
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thing of like you know but Paul is uh he holds the Menthol of The Beatles very
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um classy with it you know he doesn't you kind of you can't help but gush and
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I do gush a little bit um I got you a lot sometimes I compliment you too much and you get a little red face you've never one time
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when I say you're the greatest uh you're always saying I'm like a young McCartney now I'm like John Lennon and
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it's like this I don't know what was I gonna say oh Paul oh he's one of the most famous people out there
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who's more famous I mean there's Mick there's Paul there's uh there's a lot of people that are
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Super Famous and he's definitely up there and the challenge of this for us as podcasters is getting to start the
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podcast and we're not doing it it's just not yapping like we are now it's just to ask the guest questions they might enjoy
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ask some questions if they can't ask themselves you know Paul can't rhetorically go you know I do the low
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with the booty tools and we can't bring them the reason I'm a genius is because yeah so we have can you believe how many songs I've got you know so unreal but it
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is fun to set the table for him and give him his props and I do think weirdly uh
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get back did when we talk about get back the documentary a lot and I think it did couch Paul's Place Within the Beatles a
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little differently so all right if I were you I would press play and I would afford past this a long time ago so if
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you're still listening I don't know who you are but the actual interview is more interesting than these Talking Heads
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here's Paul [Music] foreign
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[Music]
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I like your environment that's so cool I I live in a good environment
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that is a wonderful environment Paul you had a kitchen back there spending the money let me go scouse it for a second
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did you have a good brekkie lad all right yeah I'm just having my coffee all
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right instead of I'm having my coffee you say me coffee I love that
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we're kind of we're a little hyperbolic you know just we're excited like anyone else would be you know Paul please don't
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mention that I look like I slept on my face don't bring it up a lot because people are Whispering already no I think
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you look lovely I want to thank you I want to make you an offer Paul before we start just or just an exchange but I so
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you your people sent me flaming pie in 1997 you sent 200
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vinyls out framed and I got one out of the blue and it's a treasured I love the
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album love that love that and I happen to be in uh possession
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that MBC gave me as a Beatles Capital Beatles Meet The Beatles signed by all
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four Beatles And there's only 16 in the world I don't know if that's true but I
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will give it to you I will send it to you tomorrow if you want me to because you are because you sent me
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flaming bye no you can keep it man you can oh I was I was hoping you'd say that
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Dana you can send it to me if you want no well I suggest you send it to Charlie
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Finland he's an Irish lad and it's Irish yes he's a bit of an Irish
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um so Paul um where shall we start this is where
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did you meet Paul Dana where did I meet Paul uh I met him at Lorne Michael's
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house in Long Island in 1986 can we say it uh and I was out there I'd gotten
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cast on the show I was nobody from nowhere and it frequently got cast on the show and then
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I was hanging out at Lord's House he Lauren's very intimidating when you don't know him
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you know he's like well you will come out to Long Island and maybe you could take Jack's room and I was with Jack and
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it was always it's where Jack Nicholson stays so I was in Jack Nicholson's room and then
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um and then one day he goes because he's friends with Paul Simon and our Paul
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McCartney but he never tells you the last name it goes uh Paul's going to be coming by tonight
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so I decided he makes you ask I go um Paul yeah which Paul he goes that
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would be Paul McCartney so that would be that was when I I met you and Linda at
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Lauren's house and you guys would put the kids to bed and come over and we would chat when you played us a new song
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that had never been released that was very cool we had a chat about tug of war
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what can I say to that I know these aren't even questions we're just gonna talk for an hour yeah we're narcissists
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so we're just talking about ourselves we're not good at questions but you just speak to how you met Lauren how I met
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Lauren or when no I'm not sure I can remember um just I've been coming out to the
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Hamptons forever because Linda's dad had a house out here so um
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yeah so how did I meet Lauren uh it might have been on SNL
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um it might have been out here you know there's loads of answers I could pick
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one and sound genuine doesn't matter in actual fact I'm not sure it was either a
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senate or out in the Hamptons yeah you'd have to beat him at the show probably that's where most people meet him did
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you have to audition to perform on the show yeah
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I sent him a a tape and uh
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and yeah he was impressed and he asked me to come to his house and I stayed in Jack's room
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it's great you find it haunted like I did yeah
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I just kept hearing a voice what's the matter not sleeping so well in your bed
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but now you uh Lauren has been such a big part of our podcast because this we
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celebrate All Things SNL and then Lauren kept coming up naturally with all the guests we've had and he's such an
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enigmatic interesting human being uh uh but also incredibly funny and he's
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kind of like the the law the further you get from the show the more you appreciate the job
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that he's doing and I don't know how they may do it without him I really don't yeah
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um now I love I love law uh and like you you know I've known him a long time and
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he's become a friend and not just yes an El guy you know and so we can talk
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problems with each other and like friends do and can sort things out but
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um yeah I know I think he's very funny and very um laid back it always reminds me of
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Jack Benny yeah I see that I think he molds himself on Jack Benny that sort of
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slow motion relaxation yeah the very sort of laconic uh thing very deadpan
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delivery um and he has he has wisdom he really is very good at taking a big subject and
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then putting it down to one sentence because I was at a low low point in my career as there were many and I was
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having dinner with Lauren and he just paused and he said well everyone knows who you are
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you know it was just sort of like everybody knows who you are like don't forget it's a very good impression you
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do open by the way Donna oh thank you I've had time to hone it I I was shy
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about doing it for him for many many years and then finally I did it and
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actually everyone does a Lauren at this point which Lauren knows and it's a
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great place to be it's somebody who's very relaxed like you're about to do a sketch and
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you're terrified and they're during the commercial break on 8h and he would walk up and say I didn't have a glass of
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chardonnay he wouldn't drink it he would just hold it to relax you and he'd say uh this sketch has to breathe and that
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was that was it so he's created just encapsulating things he would say things to me like that I didn't understand
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um but when I uh Paul do you remember this incident on SNL when Sinead O'Connor was on and she tore up the
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picture of the Pope yeah yeah you heard about that so uh so when I was there I
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was a writer and uh I was walking by when that happened I didn't know the
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severity and the heaviness of it I just from Arizona I don't know anything so she ripped it up so I picked up a piece
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of it and put it in my pocket and kept walking and then um I come around the corner and there's it's dead silent this
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is the only time in history you've been a musical guest there that no one applauded no one did anything it's just dead silent they went to a commercial
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and I come around the corner and there's Lauren holding his am still light and he goes um Irish and that was it
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so Paul so yeah go ahead Dana give one because uh well I was looking through
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all the songs and there are some real toe tappers in here Paul oh yeah you know oh yeah I mean for a toe Tapas
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I've seen I'm looking at all these and I'm wondering because we do stand-up sets and all that do you uh when you go
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on tour it's got to be such a heavy deal that you have a set a set list or can you change it or how does that go about
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yeah you can change it um yeah I mean
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normally uh we we get a set list in rehearsal uh well just as the whole crew
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knows what's going to happen of course occasionally you know if I'm feeling in a very fun mood I will just say we're
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going to do something now that not the crew doesn't know about a fun moment you know and I'll just we
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just throw in some song that the lighting guy doesn't know how to light but I mean normally it's normally it's
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it's the same set and then if we've been in a place let's say we've just recently
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we did uh Fenway Park in Boston we did that two nights on the run so the first
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night we would have the main set and the second night we'd probably alter a few
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of the songs in case someone came to both of the shows Ah that's cool so we
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do that you know we have the ability to sort of change the open in song or I
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mean we yeah so that's normally what we do we don't normally do much more than
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that let's say because um you put a show together it's like putting an album together and if you've
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got it right and it's working and it feels good for you um I don't really see the point in
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changing it unless for the reason I just mentioned which is you know you know so somebody's seen it or once
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and what happens is you end up even the dialogue becomes it gets like a stage
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musical we could the dialogue is the jokes that work of course yeah I mean
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you can try and do a complete new dialogue but you might find it doesn't work quite
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as well so what I do is I say I tell a story where I tell the same story
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because we got a guy who came to our show who holds up a card
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130 it means he's been to the show 130 times wow so I mean what I do say to him
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it's slightly obsessive [Laughter]
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but yeah well so so that's the thing but it really is a set list which which we
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love I have a follow-up listen to this so Paul you're doing this you know your
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songs you've got them down and if you have something new you're going to say in between does that almost get you more
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nervous if you're going to tell a story or do something funny in between because that's a little more uh unfamiliar uh
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you know what um I don't know my theory about nervous and all of that is that when we first
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started I used to get really very nervous I was trying to think why
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because we've got quite popular in the beginning even
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um quite I thought was I look at the audience and I think they all hate me so
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I've got some I've got to do something good to make them like me you know that
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was where my nerves came from I I think you know they they're all looking at me like what's he what's he got
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um and over the years I I suddenly sort of realized at one point
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well wait a minute they've all paid to come and see me so they probably like me
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once I realized that they probably like me I'm really relaxed
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um and you know just got uh so yeah I'm quite relaxed now and even if I do some
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new stuff or try a trick I'm kind of I'm relaxed enough to do it
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what I started doing a couple of years ago was like um coming to an audience that really
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loves you for instance if you haven't been there before which I love if you go
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to a town you've never been yeah because they're more excited you know and I would I would feel this energy coming
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off of it'd be like oh God this is so great so I started off then saying
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um just just a minute you know what this is all so cool I'm gonna take a minute to
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take all of this in for myself and then I walk off the microphone and just sort of stand there wow
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love it it's a it's a great thing with the audience well I just thank you Jesus
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I mean it's it's a little bit flashed of me just not doing anything you know
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well well that comes with the confidence of what I said thinking they've come to
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see you so even if you just stand there looking around and go well Elvis Elvis in Vegas would just go
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and do a pose and do a pose and just be Elvis and they wanted to love them up so
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much you know before he got to the song so I think that the time has passed so much and so many people love the songs
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that it is like a church in a way you know because how much the songs have touched them
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[Music] I just want to ask you do you have any rituals before you go out something you
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eat if you want more energy like I'll have a little bit of chocolate you guys do a high five in the band or do you
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have any kind of stuff you're doing right for your gal because you're going for three hours right or two yeah two hours three hours
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three hours yeah um yeah we do you know again all this stuff
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you start off just doing a couple of things and it grows into a ritual yeah you know because everyone expects it at
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a certain point you go let's just do this this then we go on stage ready go yeah so so what I do in my dressing room
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is my guy will come in my show uh manager whatever you call him will come
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in and say okay that's an hour you know another we mean you you know 7 30 you're
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going on at 8 30. so I'll go home and start my preparation kind of thing
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and uh yes I do certain things I sort of boil a kettle because I know I'm gonna
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do like a steam thing uh okay the voice I do that and then I do someone no
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reason I I question it every night I do with the boiled water I I get a salt I
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get salt in a cup like a brine solution which I then gargle with I've no idea if
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it does help you don't know where the ice deer came from
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it seems to work right okay yeah you know so so I do a few things like that
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and then sort of get dressed and into the sort of stage stuff and then about
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10 minutes before we're going on um I will go into the band stressing
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room and we then have a little sort of routine
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where we um we do uh Rusty I'll uh one of the
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guitar players will play a C chord and I'll go let it be let it be and they all
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go so we'll just do a little burst of that
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and then we do a little burst to pay June they do the harmonies with that and the guy comes and says Showtime wow I
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love it it's scary yeah how fun do you have I saw Elton one time and backstage
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she had probably 300 000 outfits do you have probably less than that and do you
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because I'm like Elton can't you Whittle it down to just a hundred that you might wear tonight like they have literally
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every outfit in America and then he goes that one or do they pick or do you pick
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do you walk around and go this way we're kind of pretty simple right yeah I don't pick my outfit yeah I've got a few it's
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there's not an awful lot of variation yeah it's huge jackets a few shirts few
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trousers and uh and Beetle boots so you know I can I can make that so
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you're still wearing Beetle boots actual Beetle boots like with the two and a half inch heels
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it's that's the sort of um that's just one of the sort of great things which
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like sort of memories and all sorts of stuff for me um you know what used to happen with the
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Beatles was we'd show up in what we call our cities you know street clothes
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um and so four of us would be different human beings and then we'd get ready for
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the show and with the Beatles often we'd have the the same beautiful suit yeah
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all together yeah so well then suddenly we're transformed into like wow this is
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like a group it's like you know you're it's like military you're like wow with
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the same person and the thing was that um when we first started going down to
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London we'd found this place that made these Groovy spanishy Kind of boots with
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a heel and so when you when you got your outfit on and you pulled these boots on with the heel yeah you were now taller
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as well oh it's great looking
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yeah you were like a four-headed Beast because there was it was the most uh amazing transformation in history
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because then you were just badasses right when you got out there and got into your groove yeah you know so yeah
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that so that was it I've always liked that and and I I always think yeah that's a good idea that you pull these
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boots on and you're you're a little bit taller so I I've become very used to
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them as well you know so uh yeah there you go what's the meaning you like I wear Skechers
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um but because Paul three hours I I I'm not a great Stander so when I do my stand-up which uh uh everyone's excited
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about but um when I do my stand-up it's an hour and it's it's tough to get through an hour three hours has got to
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be tough on you but you you seem to have absolutely no problem with it I blame Bruce Springsteen I blame it
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it's your fault man yeah take it easy
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and the restaurants who look look you know measly if we do an hour
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but the Beatles used to do a half hour 30 minutes yeah of Just Hits yeah dig
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that and then they throw you yeah you throw you in a van and you just beat four beetles just flying all over the
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place but you know how that again you know it's lovely because you start thinking about what was the reason for
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that why did we do that that and I know when we first started playing
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um clubs and things the promoter would come up to the comedian and say how long
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would you do and with the community it was like four minutes they said can you you can do four
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minutes yeah okay so the comedian would do four minutes so we thought well oh
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you know like so many minutes before you know so we stretched it to like it's
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an eternity if you do 18. the songs were two minutes essentially in the early
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days right just Bam Bam Bam she loves you yeah yeah yeah and the waiting was
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uh John would do some of the songs I would do some of the songs George would
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do some songs and Ringo would so split that through 30 minutes yeah and I mean
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hardly done anything so you shouldn't even get paid for that uh
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I don't know how you play the bass and sing like you did a lot of people are amazed by that you know I tell people
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who ask me about the Beatles I say well if Paul McCartney was only the bass player he would be indispensable you do
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other things as well but I just love uh love the way you play bass you know and the things I never wanted that job bass
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player was the worst job in a group and it was the fat guy
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well you were exotic because you were a lefty and then you had that honor base
00:28:01
for so long that it became sort of iconic and seemed pretty and lightweight but what did you find it difficult
00:28:08
because you can't just strum you have to hit all the notes perfectly and Ringo has to stay on time it seems awfully
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difficult but you took to it did it take a bit of time it was um well you know I
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had a lot of practice in Hamburg we've got a lot of practice oh you know it's uh it's that ten
00:28:25
thousand hours thing that um you know I started on Malcolm Gladwell and I did
00:28:30
start off playing like the fat guys played which is
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sounds very kind of country western almost yeah um but uh eventually when James Jameson
00:28:43
came along the great bass player and started
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Melody going so that really turned me on so I completely changed and uh
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you know just enjoyed being a mom a lot of writing writing around the the neck
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riding up and down and you know because Love Me Do I gotta say is is a very simple Baseline but that's what that
00:29:10
song required I guess but that was probably your simplest Baseline yeah
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because we we do that in the show now you do um awesome
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in the show no yeah and it's funny because you've got a little Auto cue in case if you've got some of the songs
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have got a lot of lyrics and so it's kind of just check sure yeah let me do I
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find myself looking at the audio and it's the same chorus
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and then you went to Police Department which seemed like such a lead
00:29:49
Please Please Me was kind of your next big your top tenor you know which was
00:29:54
pretty sophisticated from Love Love Me Do oh yeah
00:30:01
to think about that was again looking back on it is that um
00:30:07
it was it was all directed on our fans because you know we were new to this
00:30:13
whole idea of fans and autographs it was it was wonderful and new and wow you
00:30:19
know so love me do so there's the personal pronoun so the next one is
00:30:25
Please Please Me me then from me to you
00:30:32
there was she loves you I want to hold your hand was this
00:30:40
intentional I'm looking through you huh I'm looking I'm looking through you
00:30:46
so it's really trying to reach directly um fans I think I should do more of it
00:30:53
these days actually let's uh let's do a redo it's a good trip I saw you wait I
00:30:59
have a question for Paul real quick love out did you did you know Elvis did you see Elvis uh back in the day we met him
00:31:07
yeah was there any competition was he just sort of big here and then you got here and it just two different things
00:31:12
well you know we loved him it was he was like The Stance of everything to us we're in Liverpool and you know you're
00:31:19
listening to the radio or seeing the TV and it was sort of old-fashioned kind of music
00:31:25
or um I don't know novelty songs and stuff okay but then suddenly rock and
00:31:31
roll came out and so this this creature a creature yeah it was it was like
00:31:36
unbelievable it was so good looking his voice was so amazing the way he danced
00:31:43
was so incredible so you know we just loved him anyway and
00:31:49
uh loved him mainly we loved him all the time well after he came out of the army
00:31:56
we thought they ruined him because
00:32:02
which we weren't that Keen on but um yeah we met him we we tried to meet him
00:32:09
a lot and uh eventually we went to a house he was
00:32:14
renting in L.A and we all showed up there and uh like before good God again
00:32:21
yeah and knocked on his door and there there is where we get it goes strange oh
00:32:29
really my memory is Elvis came to the door and let us in I mean because it says no we
00:32:37
didn't no somebody else let us saying someone else let us in
00:32:43
so I'm going with my memory anyway yeah but anyway yeah it was fantastic it was
00:32:48
really cool we we thought it was just so good looking he was voted by the way do
00:32:54
you know he's voted the most handsome man of the 20th century by some poll or some magazine that Elvis so the best
00:33:01
looking man can also sing better than any human being I mean it's too much it was too much
00:33:07
you know so he was lovely and um he was he started playing on a bass he picked
00:33:13
up a Bass huh so I thought well here's here's something I can talk about so you
00:33:18
know we talked a bit of bass and then he uh he had what amazed us was he had a
00:33:25
remote because in England they didn't have remotes for your TV oh sweet
00:33:31
remote we'd ever seen so his thing in his hand and he goes
00:33:37
on the television channel change as we go sorcery yeah that's crazy
00:33:47
Sam who played that over and over moho Sam how did that go about yourself what
00:33:54
was that song foreign
00:34:00
so yeah no it was it was magic you know uh meeting him um and so we loved we loved him and
00:34:08
everything and I I continued to love and to this day even though he tried to bust us to Nixon what oh was that when he was
00:34:16
a sheriff or something deep of him saying then all those bills
00:34:23
he's been busting us and I'm going Elvis I'm telling you know I don't trust no
00:34:29
Beatles I'm telling you that I still love him anyway but yeah oh yeah did you go see him ever you see him go live do
00:34:37
what did you go watch him at the Hilton or anything no I never saw him alive
00:34:42
though well we only done anything
00:34:47
but he was great you know just you know oh yeah unbelievable yeah I mean just
00:34:53
the fact that you guys got in the same room that must have been pretty you're probably both nervous you know to meet
00:34:59
each other in a weird way yeah probably yeah have you been inter has anyone talked to you since get back came out
00:35:04
the documentary okay I probably have done some interviews we thought yeah uh
00:35:10
what's your feedback from the fans I mean I I found it just relevatory and and amazing and Brilliant I just loved
00:35:18
it and I I yeah we were seeing you guys up close I remember you uh
00:35:23
just the the work work ethic of you guys and The Chemistry Between the four of
00:35:30
you sitting around I don't know what are your thoughts on it was it surreal I mean if there was video of me in my 20s
00:35:35
doing stand-up there's no record of me at that age and you're watching yourself at like 27 or eight
00:35:42
but how did you find it I mean you probably you were you were you enjoyed it right well it was yeah it was kind of
00:35:48
magical for me because um that period had in my memory had
00:35:54
always been a little bit um dark because it was to do with the Beatles breaking up so the first let it
00:36:01
be filmed was cut a little bit with that in mind so I found it a bit depressing
00:36:07
yes and I never wanted to watch the first letter B film and so when Peter
00:36:12
Jackson was slated to do this this version uh I said to him Peter you know
00:36:18
I'm not sure I'm going to like this because you know um you know I got blamed for breaking up
00:36:23
the Beatles and in actual fact it wasn't me no and I've been trying to explain that to people for years and years
00:36:31
but then after a couple of months he'd been working on it he got in touch with me he said it's not like that at all he
00:36:39
said it's amazing so there's just these four guys in a room and you're having
00:36:44
fun and you're working together so you sent me a little clip which
00:36:50
really saved my life this is a little bit where John and I were I'm working on
00:36:55
uh she came in through the bathroom window and I'm just strumming on the base and then and uh John's on the piano
00:37:02
and uh at the end of it I said no no no no Monday's on his Tuesday's on the
00:37:08
phone to me and I go hello Tuesday
00:37:14
immediately picks it up yeah he's coming right I can't remember what he says he's
00:37:19
coming over this little routine you know if I'm ringing Tuesday
00:37:25
um and I thought oh God yeah that's how it was it was it was fantastic
00:37:31
so yeah we I loved it I really loved it and it you know with with Peter
00:37:38
um what do you call it re remastering to make it so shiny and bright and freaking
00:37:44
it's child and everything and the sound and all of that um it was like having an old home movie
00:37:51
of yourself oh my God yeah but perfect and you know and I really I forgave
00:37:57
myself when I saw that because I'm thinking no where everyone's everyone's
00:38:03
messing around and we're all messing around we're goofing around it's not like we we haven't got to do anything in
00:38:10
a month's time yeah with these songs we haven't written 14 songs yeah
00:38:17
so but um what were you forgiving yourself about yeah why did you feel you
00:38:23
had to forgive yourself I thought I was too bossy I thought that that would been
00:38:28
the problem we said when I saw the film I'm not being bossy at all I'm just
00:38:34
trying to get people to work yes yeah you know I totally
00:38:39
come on guys you know it's two weeks off you know uh so people have said to me
00:38:46
you'd ask about FEMA Peter said to me well someone had to do that oh yeah someone else that guy
00:38:54
I let myself off I thought yeah that's all I was trying to do I wasn't trying to be pushy or I was just trying to get
00:39:02
the work done uh and the other aspect I thought was great is that the way we just goofed around that's what I loved
00:39:09
you know I think you think but uh John Cleese had a thing where it
00:39:16
was um work as a tool no no play as a tool yes so in other words you're goofing
00:39:23
goof and goofing and then you come to do the thing so yeah we messed around with the song so
00:39:30
much that it made them not intimidating we'd like we'd done them as jokes hello
00:39:37
Tuesday you know yeah so when you came to do the song you weren't as frightened
00:39:43
as you might have been it was just this stuff you've been goofing around on I don't want to
00:39:49
interrupt that flow but sometimes you guys would to release pressure I guess to sing some of your brilliant songs
00:39:55
from the years previous but in a funny voice that always struck me kind of that
00:40:00
was very funny you all would do that I mean you just again that's the thing you know you take the wind out of it in a
00:40:06
way yeah yeah and I'd forgotten that we did that you know I kind of knew well
00:40:12
I've forgotten the specifics so Peter's film then he just shows shows us working
00:40:17
on the song Two of Us
00:40:26
just the fact that and we don't just do it for two lines no we like we drink a
00:40:32
whole bunch of minutes and we're looking at each other and you know that's that Spirit was
00:40:40
always there from the minute I met John yeah until the minute The Beatles broke
00:40:45
up and Beyond actually you know there was always that sort of we just two guys goofing our way through the world
00:40:56
[Music] I think sense of humor connects young uh
00:41:01
clicks and friendships more than anything because that sensibility of what is funny and how are things funny
00:41:07
and you guys had it together you could see all four of you kind of knew when it was getting good but I I totally relate
00:41:14
to when I'm working on something of wanting to get away from it because you're sort of problem solving and it
00:41:19
gives you a headache you know I've Got a Feeling I've Got a Feeling uh and then you'd go away go incredibly Goofy and
00:41:27
then come back it was really fun to watch I'm so glad that that is in this documentary no I I must say I was so
00:41:34
pleased with it because all the things we mentioned you know the way the picture was beautiful it looked like it
00:41:40
could have been shot uh you know a week before except it has this beautiful color of course these colors are it's
00:41:47
the color grading is beautiful the sound is amazing you know yeah all the things
00:41:52
that Peter is Peter's team did um were so great and then I say you know
00:41:58
the way I was able to let myself off the hook and just think and you know the
00:42:04
thing is guys like you who are in the business you all all you and and other
00:42:10
people who I've met they they talk about what they liked and about the film was
00:42:15
seeing the process sure it's riveting we would call the
00:42:20
process but you know well we were glad to know that there was the work ethic
00:42:26
the the genius part comes in I'll use the word here is knowing when it's good
00:42:31
yeah and and so you guys are not quite right not quite right and then you would
00:42:36
look at each other and get feedback I always say collaboration is affirmative Nation it's not that they're writing the
00:42:42
chords it's like yes that that that and it comes out where George was a little Persnickety about I've Got a Feeling is
00:42:49
it about is the song called I've got a feeling and then later on he came to you and said it's getting quite good you
00:42:55
know just little moments like that um but yeah we the process was just work
00:43:01
ethic and going until it's good yeah don't stop yeah and we didn't know
00:43:08
where we were going to do it it was maybe going to be Libya
00:43:17
at the end it was just Up on the Roof oh yeah that that was that was PR I think you guys looked the coolest that rooftop
00:43:23
show the beards and everything that was was that the last time you did a gig together was that it yeah that was the
00:43:29
last time we ever played live together but all the fear was gone all the fear was gone by the time you
00:43:36
got that was the it was it was emancipatory watching the struggle uh
00:43:41
creatively and then watching you guys in the pocket immediately like just so
00:43:46
zoned in and then you're looking at John smiling he's looking at you like damn we're good you know you could at least
00:43:53
that's the way I saw it like holy [ __ ] that's true yeah and then John's doing
00:43:58
the song and he doesn't know the word so he just gets Kevin the paper
00:44:03
you know just the way we it was it was not important
00:44:09
it was we're just making a film on the roof yeah even though it was very
00:44:14
important it's a big film but but being able to treat it like you know didn't this
00:44:22
doesn't matter was a secret with the Beatles the the people that uh are like me and I knewer that um
00:44:30
that you know we every year goes by there's just certain Clips you will see of you guys and uh and they're the ones
00:44:38
from TV and so to get a such a huge chunk of your life it's not just a photograph to get hours of you just
00:44:44
sitting and talking you get like who would ever think they'd get to see that if I thought of myself a day in my life
00:44:50
20 30 40 years ago like not just a picture it would blow my mind at what
00:44:55
things I'd be looking at things I don't remember any of that I do remember that yeah it's so riveting and one thing Paul
00:45:00
the you were like you know any songwriter goes through periods that are
00:45:05
up and down you were just going you were kind of on an upswing around that album and I I think when you were like
00:45:12
sometimes Ringo or people would stop and sort of look and I think you were doing long and windy road or something and
00:45:19
everyone the studio would get kind of quiet like oh what's he got now you know so you were in a kind of an upswing
00:45:25
creatively at that time right yeah and it was funny because if you're on a
00:45:30
creative upswing the awkward thing is like I was saying I didn't want to seem like I was bossy the awkward thing is
00:45:36
you don't want to be the guy with the good songs I see you know you know you
00:45:42
want to just just let me sort of squeeze these in and shuffle them in between
00:45:47
other songs uh I mean it wasn't totally true of course because George was coming up with something and you know there was
00:45:54
also well Abby Road was being hatched out there and then you went in the studio a month later and then you get
00:46:00
this work of art Abby Road yeah where everyone came together one last time in
00:46:05
such a brilliant way so that that's arguably right up there with any of your problems with with your Lads well you
00:46:11
know again the nice thing about it is that um John you could see John could tell I
00:46:19
was coming up with like sort of you know let it be yeah we could tell
00:46:24
you know friendly competition yes I had to but I had to sing it a bit both faced
00:46:30
you know I couldn't go out here you know myself I had to be like this is
00:46:38
this is serious good old John you know he says
00:46:50
yeah and then I've got a straight face I've got to try and do this song selling this yeah look the feeling with someone
00:46:57
making faces and what did you underplay it when you play it just because you don't it's not like showing off you're
00:47:03
like that's an interesting uh yeah concept yeah I've never come into student well
00:47:09
mind you none of us to ever have and said I've got this great yeah we play and stuff and you know that
00:47:18
was the great thing about John he often did that he'd try and take the Mickey
00:47:24
um right before well there were brilliant songs and you know I mean
00:47:32
but you you asked him in the documentary you said have you got anything I mean you were asking for more ammunition yeah
00:47:39
you know like I got these but if you got anything and he goes I gotta I got a real so you know something it's going to
00:47:44
be a Basha you know kind of a non-answer really but he um you know when you guys did uh if I
00:47:52
fell two-part Harmony and you sang into each other's faces and it's such a love song you guys couldn't keep us I mean it
00:47:59
must take a long time until you look at right if I fell in love with you and you're looking at each other I mean how
00:48:05
did you get through that the song is wonderful but how did you guys get through that text I don't know I mean
00:48:13
some of the time you didn't get through it but then you know it's like you you've got to straighten up at some
00:48:19
point just to make the record but uh now we you know that I think the human like
00:48:24
you said before humor from from the word go yes or greeting John uh it was that
00:48:32
was what we loved about each other and again you know you couldn't say you
00:48:38
loved each other no because you're the Liverpool guys and you're trying to be hard you're trying to be tough all right
00:48:43
man yeah yeah it's okay yeah it's not bad um so you never really praised each
00:48:48
other at all right um but you did it with humor yeah and
00:48:54
that was the Beatles that you just goofed and sort of said yeah it's all right that's what John Lennon had said
00:49:00
about Pete best to your point he said why because he he wasn't a beetle and the Beatles are humor you know Ringo is
00:49:07
really funny and George and all you guys were so funny together one thing I want to ask you about which I find interesting like if John writes a song
00:49:15
and then he shows it to you and you're going to play bass and you're going to write some really cool bass and did he
00:49:22
ever just sort of go hey thanks for the baseball because even she's so heavy some of the stuff you're doing on Abbey
00:49:28
Road because after these remasters we finally got to hear your base and Ringo's drums
00:49:34
you know that's why the Beatles are still evolving as an idea because they're everything is but your base
00:49:40
playing on some of his songs I mean he must have really loved the riffs you were coming up with sort of Dear
00:49:46
Prudence or come together maybe you do that little first part I I don't know which ones you did yeah I think so you
00:49:54
know yeah the thing was when we wrote them um like you say he come to Mayor go to
00:49:59
him um that was two acoustic guitars so there was no question very space came
00:50:06
later that was like an afterthought so that um and come together that was a
00:50:12
special uh circumstance because he came in and he he basically brought in a
00:50:19
Chuck Berry Song does Chuck Berry did a song called you can't catch me okay which starts off you
00:50:26
come all flat top here you go oh he's the exact opal in mind so John brings
00:50:32
you know we're in Abbey Road Studio Number Two and John comes and he says yo listen to this one I've got this chick
00:50:44
that you can't catch me by Chuck Berry oh yeah I know but it's good though
00:50:50
and I said well no we've got to do something with it so that was a case where we had to get it out of that Chuck
00:50:58
Berry Temple you know you couldn't change that opening line it's just such a good
00:51:03
opening life and John had hey Chuck Berry for using that oh okay he come on
00:51:08
laptop he got early like slowly yeah so
00:51:13
do you so you wrote that bass that that was that was the opening that you
00:51:20
wrote that Baseline I was I was on the session he comes in come on no no how
00:51:26
about we slow down [Music] you know we got to do that
00:51:34
and certainly we had this swampy Groove and then John just said eat them all
00:51:41
back up he said it's not singing on top of her and it's just okay it's one of the best okay it's one of the best
00:51:47
openings of a song and also him him going yeah that is you know he goes I mean that is just uh when you guys
00:51:54
record that [ __ ] and you hear it back in the room or you go into the engineering room and you I don't know and you hear
00:52:00
it back and you know it's so right what a high that must be it was but yeah I
00:52:06
must say what about writing it I mean the the words are so crazy do you guys just try to out crazy each other on the
00:52:13
uh lyrics or did you write the whole thing or is everyone just throw in something oh it's a funny thing you know I listen to songs
00:52:20
these days uh a lot and a lot of songs make sense whereas you know we're going here come
00:52:26
on flat topic like slowly the realest and the thing
00:52:33
the truth is because we loved that kind of art we like the realism we we we got
00:52:40
it we like the sort of crazy words and stuff so you know whereas we would try
00:52:46
and write songs like let it be or you know um more sensible songs kind of thing yes
00:52:53
we also loved the crazy stuff you know um and so yeah well everyone tries to
00:53:01
figure it out too which is even more maddening yeah yeah so you know that's the thing
00:53:09
I think what was about it is that if you look at all the Beatles songs
00:53:15
um and hopefully my songs right through yeah for sure there's no two that are
00:53:22
the same whereas you get a lot of recording artists who will you know we used to say
00:53:27
The Supremes were great we loved them but it was Stop in the Name of Love right or they beloved you know it was
00:53:35
kind of the same record just you know they kept the same style uh we always try to switch it so it'd be
00:53:44
like oh my God come together yeah Yellow Submarine right it's like yeah a
00:53:52
day a day in the life or you know uh Here There and Everywhere uh she's
00:53:58
leaving now Paul if you do something like a day in the life or even like later with Admiral Halsey I'm just I'm
00:54:03
just thinking of random ones but when there's so many layers to them and so many change ups I don't know as much
00:54:08
about music as Dana I don't know I don't know anything uh but but it it's so
00:54:13
interesting to listen to like where do you stop where do you think this is it or where is it too much because you
00:54:19
always seem to land on exactly what it should be and we don't know the other versions but it
00:54:25
must be tough or with your bandmates to say I feel like this is it or we need one more this and it because it's
00:54:31
they're so so mystical the way they come together and stop and start and the arrangements
00:54:37
uh I mean not in those kind of songs that normally just happens in in the writing yeah you know luckily unlike a
00:54:45
lot of people these days a lot of people will go in without a song the discipline that we sort of learned
00:54:53
was you had to have a song which does make a lot of sense yes and we have recordings on the Escher
00:55:01
tapes we have recordings of you guys working out the songs all of those songs like day in the life we knew that was
00:55:09
gonna happen or when this bit comes now and uh so we had the framework and then
00:55:15
we made like Live and Let Die you know I knew that was going to be foreign
00:55:21
you knew that framework and then you went in and gussied it up kind of thing
00:55:26
you know I put live it last time solid Gussy I put that up with Goldfinger I I
00:55:32
think that is uh it oh 11 letters so avant-garde with the uh like keyboards
00:55:38
in the middle it's a it's a it's an in concert a
00:55:45
concert yeah the lights going explosions we got all the explosions in that yeah
00:55:50
that's great the guy who does our explosions off pyrotechnic guys called shaky
00:56:02
feel any heat I promise you his day and this day in the life is that was that
00:56:07
sort of it's hard to pick a number one was that vote is the best one the most the favorite for the fans it's a pretty
00:56:14
damn good I mean what what happened was John came to my house in London and I've
00:56:20
got like a music room up on the top floor um and uh so he came up there and we
00:56:27
sitting around and he starts it was his song essentially and he starts doing
00:56:33
this I read the news today oh boy and so we were working into that and then after
00:56:39
that we're going to go to a second verse and then all that and then we get to the
00:56:44
bit I'd love to turn oh yeah we're looking at each other
00:56:50
thinking really being naughty boys yeah yeah hey I'd love to turn you on were
00:56:57
you allowed to say on was that that was probably pretty controversial bit you know yeah but but it was like um
00:57:04
we knew as we looked until we knew yeah we've got to do this
00:57:09
um and there was this little conspiratorial look between us it's like yeah you're getting away with it I was
00:57:17
always good to throw in something a little bit naughty it's like you know a naughty
00:57:24
school boy yeah it's like you know doing something that was a little bit but um
00:57:29
no that was a great song What About winning a boom boom it's just like it's
00:57:35
got sort of a haunting feel to it and uh when you're singing I mean Ringo's Toms yeah is that what it is yeah bring those
00:57:42
Toms and then woke up got out of bed all of it fit together so beautifully just one of those magic things I guess you
00:57:48
can't predict it you hope but um I you know what I find interesting not just we have only have so much time
00:57:55
how much the medley has gone into higher esteem as
00:58:00
later on with your fans on the side two of Abbey Road that you put together with
00:58:05
you and John and it sort of is like worked out to be a perfect mic drop for the band and in the end you know so that
00:58:13
whole thing is I I love it every time I'm on XM listening to The Beatles Channel and that comes on and stereo and
00:58:20
cars are amazing now so I really feel like I'm hearing it like maybe you guys did or something but that that piece of
00:58:27
music is extraordinary that's not gold in the Slumbers where he goes good oh yeah that's all in there oh
00:58:34
when you rip that out that's you never give me another yeah no no I mean well
00:58:39
if I say one of the great things about um
00:58:45
technology is uh if you go into a museum you'll see Winston Churchill's old
00:58:52
papers and they get older and crinklier as the years go by Beatles stuff gets
00:59:00
brighter and sharper and more wonderful as a technology yeah you so you can only
00:59:05
hearing surround sound yeah and you can hear every single little thing and uh
00:59:12
that continues yeah it's extraordinary you're hearing all these little details
00:59:17
that you kind of didn't know were there so I think that's a okay I think that
00:59:23
beetles are then some people say why are you remastering all the time why'd you
00:59:29
do that you know they say I like them who are they original I know who comes up to you I want to meet you personally
00:59:36
doing with the remasters there's plenty good enough yeah [ __ ] you know and it's
00:59:42
like no no no it's really good in fact we're just about to do I think it's
00:59:49
revolver and I was with child support um George Martin's son who's kind of in
00:59:56
charge of all that stuff these guys Martin it's it's pretty amazing you know you just the details it's lovely
01:00:05
um revolver was is another one it's hard to pick there's so much genius fly around but revolver was very special
01:00:12
when I went back when I got they were remastered and I listened beginning to end and that one did kind of stay in my
01:00:19
head a bit there was a Some Kind of Revolution going on with that you know I mean you had Eleanor Rigby on there I
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mean it was just just yeah no it was time it was a good time for us creatively you know because as I said
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earlier it's like we we knew we didn't want to repeat ourselves so you know I I
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would come up with um Eleanor Rigby or something and bring that for no one another one George
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Martin would sort of say you know listen you know this should be great with just strings
01:00:53
um and the others would all agree I mean when I brought in yesterday uh I played it to the guys and sort of said okay you
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know not like what are we going to do and then ringer said like don't put any drums on it and George Wally doesn't
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need any more guitar so it was just me on my own George Martin came in he said string quartet would be great and I said
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no it wouldn't wow no she stood up we're a rock band man uh so it but he was very
01:01:22
clever George was the ultimate producer he said well let's do it and if you
01:01:27
don't like it we can take it off he was such a gentleman when you see him walking around even get back he's very
01:01:33
well dressed and there was just this gentleman in equality about him very calm you're lucky you didn't have
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Colonel Tom Parker that wouldn't depend that's the difference between you and Elvis He had bad management
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[Music] can I I don't know how much time we have but I just wanted to talk a little just
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a little bit about some of your recent stuff yeah Egyptian station uh
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especially the song I Don't Know and that and you know it seems like journalists who really cares what they
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think but it seems like they're a little more enamored I mean your peers are not putting out this kind of stuff
01:02:13
um you know McCartney three which I just loved uh because I always like specific compliments a deep deep
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feeling is such a magical song about the fistfight in your head between the light
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and the dark because the way I look at it you know and also all the pretty boys is so sweet but anyway
01:02:30
um you've just been so uh you're just going at it and you have your book of lyrics
01:02:37
1956 of the present and then you've got your album then you just did a tour and Bruce Springsteen's your friend that how
01:02:44
cool is that he's uh yeah fun seeing you too in a
01:02:50
glotten booty together playing yeah you know um I feel very lucky because of that
01:02:56
because you know and I do I'm a little bit amazed at the fact that I'm I'm still into it yeah because you know I
01:03:04
sometimes just think you know I should be Jaded by now for sure I am should be
01:03:10
fed up with this whole thing but you know each each time I do something like McCartney three yeah which is basically
01:03:17
just walk down fun you know that was something to do a lot of lockdown fun that should be the name of the album or
01:03:22
the subtitle lockdown fun yeah um but you know my DP feeling was very
01:03:28
indulgent because it wasn't an album yeah yeah this is just me playing around
01:03:36
in the studio but um yeah I know I I love what I do I I
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feel very lucky to be a songwriter you know it's something it hits me
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occasionally I go [ __ ]
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I ended up like as a songwriter I never intended that you know I was to be an
01:03:58
English teacher well you're teaching us all how to keep going you know there is no reason to stop and these songs you've
01:04:04
come up with recently I mean Queenie I from the new album I mean you know I think you're in another kind of upswing
01:04:10
creatively these last last few years and so it's a it's remarkable and amazing
01:04:16
and we all we all we love you because we can say that now because it's 2022
01:04:21
because your music tells us who you are and your sentimental and you you're
01:04:27
you're sweet but you also you know deal with everything we all deal with you know and so it's been well I'm glad I
01:04:35
came on the show because you're not getting loads of modulation and you can a jewel anytime you know Paul every
01:04:43
every question we do sounds like the Chris Farley Show uh I I do have to say that uh when you did the uh sketch with
01:04:50
Chris on Saturday Night Live that is such a great one I know that was so so
01:04:55
lovely yeah yeah and we were everyone's in a jealous rage quietly watching uh that he got to hang out with you and he
01:05:01
was one of the highlights of his uh life he said right after um and it was so good I like when he
01:05:06
said and in the end the love you take and he said is that true
01:05:13
you played that so well by the way uh uh in the sketch because I rewatched it the
01:05:18
other day and I was like look at Paul plays this perfectly because it's hard you could screw that side up too but uh
01:05:24
you did great there's a couple of things that was like my favorite SNL thing and then I I did a thing with Martin Short
01:05:31
yes I watched that last night where your pen yeah the triangle yeah
01:05:36
I really love that you know and Martin Short was trying to break you I mean he was he was so committed screaming at you
01:05:44
that you can't sing screaming at Paul McCartney quote unquote hilarious it's
01:05:49
hilarious and then that was such a cool transition and the thing opens and then you go and play Christmas time yeah that
01:05:55
was so will you be at SNL on the 50th I guess if you've picked out what you're gonna wear that's in three years time
01:06:04
I'm gonna wear Beetle boots you know what if you are I mean something I'm gonna wear some too I'm gonna wear a
01:06:10
suit too I want I want to be I want to be 5 10 and a half I'll take five nine and a half whatever
01:06:17
just we want to be two and a half up up but anyways um
01:06:23
this has been such a pleasure I really enjoyed it yeah Paul thank you I thought every time I see your show you give a
01:06:29
thousand percent uh for people to go see it it's such a great everyone everyone they know all the songs sing along and
01:06:36
it's such a blast uh look forward to seeing you again buddy yeah yeah okay man thanks a lot all right thank you
01:06:42
boys I love you we can say we could say it now I love you too bye-bye
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[Music] hey what's up flies what's up fleas what's up people that listen we want to
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hear from you and your dumb questions questions ask us anything anything you want you can email us at fly on the wall
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at cadence13.com all right Dana we got a little uh AMA
01:07:09
ask us anything let's do it ama which means um Master uh ask us ask us anything
01:07:16
wouldn't that be ask ask us anything what's the M for it was
01:07:24
ask me anything that's oh ask me anything but it's us I don't trust this Jose Sanchez Fournier I knew a kid named
01:07:33
Fournier Jose Sanchez so Sanchez is his middle name I don't know his last name is Fournier should that should be the
01:07:40
question Fournier the question is love the podcast I like they start with that smart thank you Jose
01:07:45
you're both great interviewers we found out that was a lie
01:07:51
um this is the lie detector that was a lot we're not great interviewers he says
01:07:56
uh have you always been that way or was it something you developed is your career evolve keep up the great work geez well first of all we well I've got
01:08:03
to take a moment I'm getting Vapors just accepting the premise that we're both great interviewers and how do we
01:08:09
possibly do it and keep up the great work this is this guy's the nicest we got to send him a fly on the wall coffee
01:08:15
mug yeah we got to get our merch going uh we don't have questions do we get questions about merch
01:08:22
yes David you want to answer this first because I have my own I think we are okay interviewers but we're good at
01:08:30
talking over each other and we're good at laughing at our own jokes and I think that is important if a great interviewer
01:08:37
is talking about yourself and oh over talking your guess after you ask him a question if that's the definition of a
01:08:43
great interviewer then we are David exactly we had to take a cutting off class uh we said whenever they're about
01:08:50
to say something really interesting make sure you stop them in their truck when we have a guest in the studio sometimes
01:08:55
I just want to reach out grab their neck and just start squeezing when they shut up shut up here to listen but I've
01:09:04
learned to temper that violence yeah I'm verbally violent sometimes the guest
01:09:10
leaves and Dana and I do another half hour I go did they take off well sometimes we don't roll cameras or mics
01:09:15
but David will just enter each other over and over so Jose thank you for asking you take a
01:09:21
comment you started with it uh a you know flattering thing and ended with a
01:09:26
compliment and so we're not all sarcasm I do find sarcasm new word
01:09:32
I really uh find people fascinating and they're and I I like interviewing people
01:09:37
and I think everybody's got a story and so if you like it I think we're improving and learning as we go but if
01:09:43
you like it and say it's great I'll take it but we're not there yet honestly we do actually try to not talk over each
01:09:49
other and not to cut people off but we get excited and we don't want long
01:09:55
pauses and uh I don't know well podcasting is about
01:10:00
authenticity and so we are authentically overlap each other and talk over them
01:10:05
and Rob them so we're just being very podcasty but I noticed David just a
01:10:11
personal observation that your research level has uh kind of it has gone up yeah
01:10:16
you got a lot of questions so we're both learning we've only done 360 365 of
01:10:22
these now how many have we done probably 50. but I would just say we're a work in progress thanks for the good cheer Jose
01:10:28
and we'll try to get better and we're we already took our class on how to answer questions longer so we're really doing
01:10:34
well there thank you Jose we'll see you on the cast ask another question someday Jose
01:10:41
oh boy
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