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david our guest today this was so it was you're gonna have a good time people u Brett Goldstein most famously known as Rory Kent the gruff alpha male on Ted
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Lasso which you got two Emmy awards for yes it was good to talk to another gruff
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alpha male for me uh it was nice uh he got this dude has done everything uh from England um he has done Doctor Who he has done Derek i think Derek is the
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one with Ricky uh and then and then as of late he's filming right now romcom with JLo uh which he wrote with with a friend of his
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and he's doing shrinking with Harrison Ford Jason Seagull you know so just non-stop he has a deal with we can go on and on remember he has a standup special he writes and produces
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all these shows and then he's in them and stuff he'll tell us an interesting story about how he got cast as Yes we
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made him do that story and he was gracious uh he's actually talking to us on his break from the movie uh on a on a
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weekend which was very uh generous of him and I had a I had a good uh some good laughs with him obviously he's a comedian so we cracked up but we we
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dissected the comedy special like we always do and his which is coming out soon what is it called Dana his comedy
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special oh that's called the second best night of your life that's right it's a cool name hbo hbo coming out he's a very
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curious person um as a writer you know so he asked us a lot of questions so we did talk bear with that he Yeah he was kind of curious about our situation he has a podcast called Films to be buried
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with as well that's out there um so yeah he's super busy highly successful and completely humble yeah so a lot of fun and uh very humble and asked us
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questions so don't get mad about that because uh I know it was it but it's uh fun if they're interested and we had a
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great three-way chat it was like being at dinner and um here he is guys how are you how are you hey somebody looks like their picture nice to see you again of course you remember
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when you met me yes you do i remember both well I've never I haven't had a long chat with either of you and I'm a big fan but I've introduced David on stage oh yeah
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interesting i remember that i told Dana that we just ran into each other at one of those loud parties it wasn't a time
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to Hey I really like Ted Lasso really yeah I know jason Sedakus really okay that I hate those parties man that [ __ ] music drives me hey whoa whoa i'm coming in hot what party was it
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it was one of the SNL SNL parties yes that's right that's where it was and I wanted to say I love Head Wound Harry but you know it was too late i'm exhausted right now because I looked at
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all what you're doing out there right now it's like I'm exhausted because I read your credits what's going on man
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yes busy boy he's like Yes and that's why I have to jump off right now thanks can I ask you a question like what what
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I these are sort of cliche in a sense but I guess like in 2017 2018 you were kind of regular famous you've done some
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things and then Ted Lasso and you became extra famous yeah what year how long have you been extra famous this has been like three years since people are like "Hey are
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you the day?" It was It was a weird thing where we did the we did lockdown and when we came out of lockdown we
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suddenly were pointed at in the street oh so it was playing the whole time just pointed at you hey we were like in lockdown what's on our face something
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happened um if they said to you if this is a deal I would take yeah we're going to lock you down for two years but you'll be super famous after i would say okay
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you'd think that's kind of what happened kind of a dystopian nightmare and you just were emancipated from it into love
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and u human beings being so excited to see you oh that's a very nice way of thinking about it how have you two coped with being famous for as long as you have been famous which is a long long
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time now david you go first well we like it when when guests ask questions by Yeah thank
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you i'm glad we got through the Brett part of this interview but we got you can get a cup of tea sit back and 20 minutes from now
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i How old were you how old were you two because you were both How old were you two when you were My my
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my I I got an SNL and I had kind of regular fame it was in the 80s but then I had Wayne's World got an Emmy for doing Political Impressions anyway I I'm
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just saying everything whooshed up and I was on the cover of Rolling Stone so for that year I it was peak fame and I found
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it exhausting just basically exhausting because I'm I'm kind of a people pleaser and so anyone who wanted to give me the
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time of the Oh sure you know so um I think I'm David right it's David i think David David would um have a different journey mine was
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very gradual uh Brett because standup middle act wasn't even a headliner when I got on SNL did an HBO like young comedian special so I got a drop of
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attention but got on SNL but didn't do that much for a while dana kind of came out of the gate big and I I took a while
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and then leaving that then a movie and then another movie i think it was uh after SNL after some movies and then a
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sitcom called Just Shoot Me and then I got the cover Rolling Stone and the Cover Rolling Stone is a very hard one
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over here i don't especially if you're a comedian so I feel like that was um when people say when were you the most famous that's such a weird question and it's always right now because it's
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accumulation of everything kind of or people finally caught up to stuff but that was probably the year because you
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don't get that a lot if ever again so I really felt like that was a fun one and Dana got one um maybe got two I don't
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know but is this where you two are best friends because you can only you both been on the cover of Rolling Stone is
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that the part part of the club and uh if you get on there we're going to be hanging out in the game okay i'm just curious how are you how's the recognition factor in different
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countries like Great Britain uh compared to Ireland or you know because lasso is
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lasso or TED I like to shorten the show TED is global so that's a different thing so where are you the most I I mean there was like the
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first year we were only recognized in America but then I think the second year it then was it sort of went I I I I
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haven't yeah it's sort of everywhere because I think it's because it's on Apple it's like I mean I haven't checked
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was any did England take any Was there any different feeling than America america was just sheer joy and bliss was England because you were there and your English is there any different i thought
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English people wouldn't take to Ted Lasso because it's sincere so I I thought it is that not
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what plays over there no i you know I thought they were gonna be like you [ __ ] prick you sincere prick oh
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you're so [ __ ] earnest oh no I don't like that show you're so [ __ ] earnest is it a lot of comedy is more uh insincere well yeah or or
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uh negative like as in uh taking the piss out of people snarking i tell you what was really interesting thing that happened that I learned is I did this show that no one ever saw it was like an
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improvised sitcom with David Hasselhoff where David Hasshoff came to England and
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we were like his fake entourage and it was off the record yeah off the record yeah and it was really funny no one ever saw it it was proper funny but what was
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interesting about it is he as the American we were like improvising these scenes and he came to us one day and he
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said "Guys," he said "They're making you look like idiots." And and I we were like "Yeah no it's okay it's okay because Oh was he
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worried about you guys looking stupid in a mockumentary?" And it's okay because because we that we're English it's meant
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to be funny like as in he wanted us all to be heroes and I was like that's such an interesting like oh really it's
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funnier that you guys are all well you guys gave us uh money python you know so it's kind of like um doesn't get any better than that but I do think um first
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I have it's philosophical alert no Ted lasso even for America the earnestness of it the sincerity of it took us off guard you Oh like you cuz I people told me to
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watch it i go what lasso i don't know i was like kind of like what's it on Peach
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Channel 4 no so then I watched it and I started seeing it and it was the chemistry and it you know I'm not going to say lightning in a bottle i'm not going to say that because I don't want
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to speak in cliches it might be a great show is when every single person in the cast is the only person you can imagine playing that part and Ted Lasso had that
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across the board in my opinion that's very nice i I feel the same way about Just Shoot Me can I ask you is that a
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call back did it make it over there oh you saw the show yeah yeah it was on It was on It
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was on late night in England it was on BBC 1285 it was on BBC 1285 still getting the checks eh [ __ ] good i'm glad you saw just shoot me it gives me some legitimacy on this call
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thank god tell me this i want to know about you two have you done standup or shows in
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England no i've been invited but never never lined up but I uh How does I don't know
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if it would work why are you scared yeah we're scared i'm scared for sure why won't you come they'd love you i don't know if my favorite city i've been
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there several times i love everything about it the West End you know Eiffel Square eiffel Square all the biggies the pyramids Leicester
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Square this is you know okay I have to ask these are just arithmetic questions but
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so you got this special that's coming out in a couple weeks second best night of your life i like the title that's
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That's a title always hard to get a title yeah spades got one coming out called Dandelion
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always hard good title i saw the trailer and the title was explained in the trailer and I was like respect yeah
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because I'm a puss no one would guess that where did you Where did you shoot the uh special in oh in New Jersey new Jersey oh really yeah
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yeah bergen Theater did you at the PAC okay bergen and how many people it was uh 2000 or
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one two shows one night two shows one night love it so pre- pandemic you're playing clubs is that right yeah clubs in in like 50 seaters
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the kind of the my favorite size you can't make money but I like a 50-seater yeah yeah yeah you know what I mean but
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so then now you're you just went this last five years it really did but I but I think I was I was sort of This is why I'm asking when you what age you were because I was quite I was 38 when I did
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Lassa I think okay i'd been going I'd been doing all of this at a low level for a long long time
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so I think I just didn't expect any of it but then when it happened it was like well I'll be dead soon so made the most of it i think it must be nice i'll be
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dead soon if you're 38 and you're doing pretty well you probably go it probably would have happened by now and uh the odds get higher that I mean you can be
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famous but then you to have a game changer Yeah is very rare exactly yeah i I'd long given up on sort of a big thing happening yeah i thought when I got SNL
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at 31 I'd been in the clubs for 10 years and I'd auditioned for SNL several times in clubs and just thought it was sort of
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over a lot of things had to come together they were recasting and long story short I got it at 31 and then the show was really on a low point but by it
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happened to be the [ __ ] we had to rescue let's just take this guy we can't lose it wasn't easy i thought I was going to
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turn the lights out cuz every pilot I'd ever done every show I'd ever done it failed sucked so I didn't want to turn
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Oh you can turn it out now okay that's 8h dana turn the light out on the way franchise what else have you got so I was around that age 36 when I started to
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make extra money and be extra famous and um I found it it's a Fouian deal in some
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ways over time um do you have a financial planner kid he's got a printing press i would say to you this um and I don't think I've ever expressed this i'll just do it very
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quickly is that at some point you want a wall of money that's giving you income not risky investments not real estate but liquidity bonds or something that is
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giving you a wall of income so in 10 years from now you never go on bendad you never have to do anything you don't want to do your career so far seems like you're in command and control because
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you're the executive producer you're the writer so you wouldn't have those issues but whatever money you think you want
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you just want to be completely done by 50 so you have nine years eight years okay i'm I'm going to play back this podcast and I'm going to have to write out what you just said because you lost
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me at bonds well well it doesn't matter about bonds mailbox money just money that comes in when you're not working so
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that you can pick and choose um your projects that's all but I think you already you're most standups just do standup and try to get hired you're I
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mean you got a big deal with Warner Brother i mean you're already in charge i think you're doing perfect i take back
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what I said you don't need my advice i I really I'm listening to all of it [Music] i have a question for you both about SNL that I'm curious about because I've
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spoken to Bill Hayer and I've spoken to Jason and I've spoken to a couple of other people and everyone tells me I
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when I spoke to Bill Hayer I said to him how he was making Barry at the time and he was like writing execing directing
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producing edit all of it and I said how do you cope with the pressure of that that's such a huge huge undertaking and
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he said anything's easier after SNL oh wow and I and I wonder if you two feel this way like the machine of SNL seems to me so [ __ ] insanely stressful and it
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sort of the ego of it week by week that you could be in a sketch then you're not in a sketch and you're the king for a
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night then it's gone and then week on week how do you how did you feel about that you know Bill who's one of the
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greats of SNL uh we all love um I think maybe what he's saying is that at that point you're on the upswing and you're trying to get to a level where you
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you're not going to give up on showbiz you know everything's going on like you've all been in that position we've all been where am I going to do this
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forever cuz I just barely barely making it and that's the stress of no you're going to get fired every year no one's
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treated preferentially really and you keep writing and keep proving yourself with Barry maybe which sounds so such a hard undertaking is he's already got to
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this point and he's been given something and now it's just not fun but fun and hard but maybe maybe there's something I
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can't imagine something that hard um SNL was horrible but it's in the past but the new thing would seem harder like okay it's right in front of me I got to make this work which luckily he Uh uh
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Dana what do you think well I would say all that is true it's an emotionally violent sport SNL um but o over time if
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you write your own sketches and get some friends together it might help out but it's coming from you and then there's no time for someone to overthink it was
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great for my ADD brain there was no real direction you direct yourself the director is just trying to get the shots by the seat of their feet and so you it you you're a master of your fade in some
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ways there's whimsy to that but then you you have control and so when I when I walked off I I didn't have the
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confidence i was being offered multi-millions to do a couple films that were complete mistakes you know because
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then going from complete control to no control 100 takes they edit the way they want i did this thing in a scene which I
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thought "Okay I nailed this." I looked at the monitor saw it in the film it's been cut to pieces what I love about
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your resume so far is that you're not You're Bill Hater bill hat her bet on himself they He could have made a Stefon
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movie let's just say 15 million sure he could have stayed at SNL or done another variety show he bet on himself he just
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said no and now he's like he's he's a Cohen brother or he's Kubrick the second or he's a Paul Thomas so what you're doing is already fantastic you're you're making shows you're in control and the
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only time I've been really unhappy in show business like truly unhappy is being on a set or in a project where you
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look over at the brain trust around the camera and you're like "Oh we're fucked." Yeah this is not going to work
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tell right away it's not working so just just do what you you've been doing is you are you're in charge of your you
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know so far this podcast is really lovely so thank you very much right we're going to transform well don't let
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them dangle a shiny you make it so popular that you're tempted to do some movie you don't want to do because all
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of a sudden it's whatever cartoon money would be you know and it wouldn't the money is only about freedom the only
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reason to have money from my mind is to have freedom freedom to work or not work freedom to how to work by the way I'll
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just ask you do you have shiny things that speak to you like watches cars do you live which is totally totally fine
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that's the again the beauty of it is I don't I I never I always made enough before this all happened i always made just enough i made enough to pay my rent i made enough to go to the cinema which
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I like doing and I made enough for black t-shirts which is all I wear that was it and so when will this happen look at us
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oh god all I need is the cover of Rolling Stone and we can be a gag how do you I can't afford that [ __ ] why this
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one might be I have a stupid regular shirt on oh I have a good I have a good question for him dana watch this watch
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this that's good fast ball coming in okay brent if that's your real name brent um so Brett if England is doing an
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SNL yeah they are right england is doing SNL dana did you know this yeah that's a
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big story we haven't talked about enough obviously I don't think you would want to be on it as a cast member but what
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are your thoughts about that that sounds because I was thinking what's the equivalent of SNL over there and then I just thought oh wait I think they're
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doing one they're doing one yeah they just announced it yeah I I think there are so many [ __ ] great uh sketch
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comedians and comedians in England that it could be amazing i think for years everyone has tried to do an SNL and
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failed at it so I think making an actual SNL might be the answer instead of a knockoff yeah instead of going like Sunday morning recorded like they're always
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trying Right right and I've noticed I think what they've always made the mistake of is they go to
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like the Edinburgh Festival and they find a sketch group and another sketch group who aren't friends don't know each other and they go ah they sort of mix
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and match random people whereas I think If they go to the groups that are that have chemistry and have built something and put them in stuff and give them some autonomy I think it could be amazing it
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could be but I think that's a good observation i think on SNL John Loveitz when I was there knew Phil Hartman and
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Jan Hooks knew these writers and there was a a a chemistry that started right away um yeah and you need it right away because that first first viewing people
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will be like is this any good that's the pressure of like they don't go you know what we'll get it jelled around show 15
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and they're like we're gone so that's the scary part the pressure get it right right away and if you have people that
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have worked together that would help like they come in with something you got to have a such a weird thing it's such a
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ephemeral thing but I like asel because it's like the Muppet Show right it is a gang show and it is the chemistry of
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Dana was fuzzy bear for sure it's a it's a a sporting event but the thing about it being live is that we it's it's obliterated all the competition we used to have so many mostly tape but variety
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shows were huge i assume in England as well in the 60s7s early now they've all disappeared i tried one in prime time martin Short did all disappeared there is no live 90inute comedy show with a
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with a really cool band and maybe a movie star or football player host so you know stay to that have have a an athlete host you just do the do all that
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but you guys between Ricky Jery I'll just loop leap around here peter Sers of course and I already mentioned Money
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Python it's one of your biggest exports you know is comedy you know yeah I think
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it's I'd be really interested if they [ __ ] it up i don't know the the back fact back fact back fact back fact back fact back fact back fact back fact back fact back fact back the backness of it
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as in if if LAN's involved I don't know like if it's like would they ship a Tina Bay over to help
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get it going would they do you know I I don't know what extent they would be involved you know because it's a very
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complicated show to do and there's got to be some shortcuts of people that have done it forever that can help alleviate
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the fullon stress it would be would you go yeah let's go I would go no I don't think I'm good enough Dana might be good dana should be the first host to sort of tie it all together i would go I would
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just stay with I mean there's two lanes of that show one of one lane is that you're seeing some unknown people
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comedians come on the show and so you're watching them evolve and you're kind of rooting for them and seeing them get
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find the audience get more confident and that is a reality show so when the show bombs so to speak it should just as
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interesting as when it kills because it's live oh this sketch is bombing and and you know it's kind of fun for the audience jason is the guest host and
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he's really he's horrible right now oh yeah he could be the first guest host too sorry Dana you're pushed out your
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second week and then an athlete or someone who's never done comedy in their life is forced to do sketch comedy so if
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they do it great that's another secret sauce you have a lot of those over there you could do that those are two and then
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constantly have Paul McCartney sing Let It Be every week and JLo yeah every week oh to promote the movie we got to hurry up and get this SNL going though tell me have you What do
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you What's your like secret when you're bombing if it if the sketch isn't working what do you do do you feel you know D is bombing if he's on stage well Will Frell famously
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No I I' I've easily that that show can go south in in a second you know cuz it's so under rehearsed and live in the audience can be weird will Frell is famously the most like if a sketch
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starts to bomb his commitment goes up exponentially goes harder yeah and um so yeah you just sort of it's all madness but it's it's very much under rehearsse
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and and there's rewrites right before you go on and it's you know you're going to get it right off the queue card but
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that's what gives it this this this chemistry this excitement you know so and Live from London just sounds funny to me it's a little bit like the clash London calling maybe that should be the
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theme but live from London you know it's like is there any other town it could be
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from out there live from Liverpool live from Birmingham it has to be London has to be London london call yeah you're frozen with a thumbs up like
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you're really pleased about it [Music] films to be buried with been doing that for years yes um and it's really the
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premise of and I I did think about it movies that affected you it's like the film that made you cry the
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most the film that scared you the most the sexiest exorcist scared me the most uh 2001 a space odyssey at 13 in a cinadome in Seattle uh blew my mind
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basically didn't know didn't have any precursor like what is this about and everything
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about that movie i actually a few years ago they were gonna they did the 50th whatever anniversary and I saw it six
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times over two months at the Arklight Theater in LA it's just kind of a spiritual experience
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um it's a meditative experience and I don't know why Kubri how he kind of does that what is
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the secret of the off-kilter acting kind of you know how and the casualness they're getting the sandwich and the spaceship and all they know is this thing's been around there's
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some magic to that film for sure i think it's a wonderful life um I don't know why but even if I bring this up in casual conversation I get choked up he's
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back he's back we're talking about It's a Wonderful Life talking about movies it's where they that his life the angel he sees what it'd be like if he wasn't born and then he's euphoric and the
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town's people show up and someone says to his character "We heard George Bailey was in trouble." That always stuck with me we heard and I've always teared up
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about that when I bring it up you don't have to tear up now i could a little bit you are there's something about that you
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know so what about you what just what movie um yeah start crying what what's What scared you the most besides Tommy Boy did you see the
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Did you see The Exorcist i did see You know what i saw The Exorcist when I was young and I thought it was stupid and
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then I watched it like You got scared later yeah I got scared like a year ago when I watched it i was like "Oh my god
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that is so scary." I didn't think I was scared when I was little i would never watch that how old were you when they saw it i was like six and I was like
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this stupid little girl with best fitting hair that's just this [ __ ] that's interesting
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dana ask him about I will ask cuz I I'm too embarrassed uh ask him when he did that audition which he's probably talked about for Ted Lasso did you film it alone in your room i have to hear every goddamn detail that's so funny well just
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set the table for You're a writer on Ted Lasso there's a part and you're thinking maybe I writer on Ted Lasso i love it i
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know you've probably told us the best thing you've ever done but embellish it this time but let's get some details give us extra i will give you I'll give
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you one one extra detail i don't usually get uh we're writing it i get the thought
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that I think I could do Roy Kent but I know not a single person in the room is thinking that everyone and I know that if I say it out loud everyone will be like embarrassing i love it embarrassing
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you would be good for this yeah that's how you start if we can't find anyone I don't think we're actually super talented you know what if he has really
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big eyebrows just a thought putting it out there putting it out there anyway I wait till we finish
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writing and then I make a self tape but what I did with the self tape I went to Mosaic which is
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my manager's office and they like do Oh in LA yeah yeah it was in Alex that's where we Oh okay and uh and you know I
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don't know if you've done this but they have like whoever the assistants are at the time they can read in with you and
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they can Oh right so I did my scenes with this Norwegian guy who was like an intern so the scenes I'm acting with Keely in the original self tape it's
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it's me going like Keely and Keely's like "Hello." And it's like He's a dude and not even an actor yeah a sort of dead pan Norwegian man was playing
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Ke and uh and I recorded five scenes and I flew back to England like I finished my contract and I flew back to England and when I got on a plane I sent Bill Lawrence the tape and I said "Thanks for
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everything." I said "Look I've been thinking I could play Roy Kemp but I appreciate that no one's thinking this this is really embarrassing if this is
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[ __ ] I will never ask you about it we can pretend this never happened but if this is good here's a tape and then when
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I landed it was like an overnight flight when I landed I got a email saying "This is [ __ ] awesome i'm going to send it
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to you." Oh really wow well can I I want to have a question about about this because Yeah the character that you play and like we're getting to know you now
00:31:34
so you really did like the body language is so funny and interesting of Roy Ken you know and also obviously you went lower a little more grally and he's sort of an alpha alpha type character you
00:31:49
know so did you have that in the audition tape or did that evolve as you kind of got on the I think I had the I
00:31:54
think I had the posture in the tape because I knew he it was all based on a load of things but I knew he was like a guy who had been told since little
00:32:05
shoulders back head forward like he'd been told that and that he was leading like he's ready
00:32:12
to headbutt someone at all times is leading but the voice the voice was like halfway there in the in the self tape I think
00:32:23
and they wanted you to play it up no it just felt right once I was there with once you're sort of faced with It's funny because you you know I done this tape with a Norwegian guy in a room but
00:32:35
then suddenly there's 20 men and you have to be super Yeah oh tougher dominant so what was the line i mean you're What What did
00:32:47
he say something had to happen i think it was in the audition tape and in the show so or I'm going to start punching something yeah s silence where I'm going
00:32:54
to start punching dicks and how would Roy can't You don't have to do the carrot you want me to do it i like your
00:33:00
impression of it cuz you're very good at it i don't know i I don't know now you got me i use that line when I'm waiting
00:33:06
too long at Cheesecake we're going to be silent in here i'm going to start punching dicks i'll punch your dick i'll
00:33:11
line him up you'll [ __ ] dick so you get to swear Paul's a next i remember Sandler did a movie sorry uh with Paul Thomas Anderson i go "God you're so good
00:33:24
in that." He goes "Carvey I got to swear." You know so you're you're self you're on the
00:33:31
phone what the [ __ ] and so your character how many swear words per episode are you Are you allotted someone
00:33:38
did count it i think it's in the hundreds it's in the hundreds season you got a real Anora on your hands what about Do you swear in your standup
00:33:51
i don't even remember yes I do yeah oh boy woo i found that interesting when in when I started doing gigs in America like um smaller gigs when I was first coming out here and they'd be like "Do
00:34:02
you have a clean set?" And I was like "What's a clean set?" Like they don't have division in England
00:34:09
we just It's just stand as like everyone's dirty yeah but it's also like what do you mean a clean set isn't this an adult evening out right but some clubs want it clean that's funny or some
00:34:20
headliners if you when I used to open a middle they'd say keep it clean and I'm like "Huh?" So I always sort of looked
00:34:27
at a clean tip because you were also eyeballing doing Letterman or doing a late night show and you had to be clean
00:34:34
so your manager would say "You're wasting it because you can't do that bit." And I'm like "Right the level of
00:34:40
what you can do on a late night talk show is kind of But so what's the as far as your special coming out what's the what's the bit that is the blest we call
00:34:52
it blue uh five minute bit about the seaw word and how America is scared of it." Oh
00:34:59
Brett oh my mom just called she goes "Oh you don't need that we know we we know that about my mom doesn't like my own act i like Dana he's he's clever and
00:35:11
he's fun clean and cheerful you know come on are you clean you're clean your stand up's clean dana
00:35:18
um clean um for the most part um there's certain there was there's certain jokes that's kind of you know where the punchline is [ __ ] you or used
00:35:30
as [ __ ] right and then I go "Okay." And Jerry Seinfeld doesn't like that try to rewrite it well you don't need the word
00:35:37
you know what it for shut up was that Seinfeld seinfeld with a little garbo in the back [ __ ] Eeyore yeah we also both do corporate gigs me
00:35:49
and Dana and when they say do an hour do 45 minutes and keep it clean that's another way we work and uh if like I
00:35:58
watch Dana on these we do them together sometimes he's not 100% clean but you don't even
00:36:05
notice it that the whole tone the whole vibe is like fun and it's really because
00:36:10
they said one guy told me he goes "We just say that cuz Martin Lawrence did 20 minutes on eating pussy." And I'm like "Oh okay well well we get where the line is that's where the line okay I get so
00:36:22
somewhere under Yeah I got But that's what they're fearful of something happened once where people complain and
00:36:28
you go I got it you won't even notice I'm dirty it's like so goofy my goal is to get them to laugh at minutia that's
00:36:34
been wound down into madness and get them to go with that for an extended period of time and that's its own sort
00:36:41
of pornographic you know i mean you must have bits in your act that maybe get more laughs than you think they deserve or less laughs or ones that you think are the most challenging for the
00:36:51
audience in the sense of how abstract they are or Yeah you know everything is all the above that's very interesting i
00:36:58
guess I I guess yes there was there would be stuff I wouldn't do if it were a corporate gig for sure and I but I
00:37:06
still am like I I think I just fundamentally object to the idea of here is uh 200 adults in a room and because it's corporate they don't want anything rude like I'm like and can they handle
00:37:20
it it's like yes you can handle their children i'm like but they're still people i think they'll probably really
00:37:26
enjoy i do get don't want to do 10 minutes on eating [ __ ] i do get hands up i get that everybody has that bit
00:37:33
we've all got that in our back pocket the audience wants it unbridled but there's always pe there's the CEO the company and then there's the people who've been hired and so they just don't
00:37:47
want to offend but the audience by and large they're adults in America in 2025 what if they haven't heard you know yeah yeah it's about people complaining and getting sued and saying "I was so
00:37:59
offended i was shaking." It's like "Oh because of Brett's filthy act." Who cares couldn't stop thinking about
00:38:05
eating [ __ ] after that i couldn't stop i couldn't start doing it again it's not too late to drop in a
00:38:11
bit go to the comedy store and just insert it into your special and just say "I don't know why I thought of this."
00:38:18
But when you tap this which I think is out now uh you April 26th I believe so I think it's out now because we don't know what date it is today oh oh we don't know what date it is sorry um I think
00:38:30
it's out anyway we'll see but Brett is there Did you I just did mine and all you want to do is have one of your best crowds i mean they're obviously coming to see you but
00:38:43
the cameras sometimes throw people and it turns into a pretty good crowd yeah how was yours tell me tell me the truth
00:38:49
mine was I did two i did the same kind of thing two one night i think when you're Sandler and you've got an almost
00:38:56
unlimited budget he was just taping almost everywhere he went small big really thought out he he pictured like a
00:39:04
movie and I think PTA was involved in one of them and maybe the Saies so So he's got a lot going on and a lot of fun and it's [ __ ] great so I'm doing the
00:39:17
more common two a night but yeah I went to Denver which is a great comedy right town and uh I did come out the last one
00:39:25
I did the crowd was tougher but they were masked and I wasn't sure of that and when I went out I they sounded muffled which was a good you know they were wearing masks and you know what they
00:39:37
said we can do it in Minneapolis austin says no and they said "Netflix isn't agreeing
00:39:42
to do it with Austin because the parameters but the parameters were they wouldn't wear masks." And I didn't know
00:39:49
what the parameters were i go "Oh but we can still do it." They go "Yeah we'll just do your next gig in Minneapolis we'll just sell two shows." And then I
00:39:56
was so in the zone about my own [ __ ] i was like "Oh no." Cuz the opener wasn't doing as well and I'm like "Do not give
00:40:02
me a rough crowd tonight please God." Yes and so uh that was but this one was obviously unmasked and super fun so I I got lucky also you have two shows that
00:40:13
people don't know you're sort of combining the two shows sometimes you use most of one because sometimes you
00:40:18
just hit one way better what did you do more of a combination well I had that experience i Everyone had said to me "Oh
00:40:25
your special crowds are just they're so up for it it's going to be amazing." And then that first crowd you can tell right
00:40:31
you can tell by the announcement yeah yeah anything you just walk out of them by the by the chair and that first there
00:40:40
was so much stuff and there was so you know wires everywhere and there's stuff in the way cameras swooshing around yeah
00:40:47
and I think it does throw them and and like this 7:00's quite early you know and that was the first show and a little
00:40:53
early they're not drunk they're just Yeah off stage thing and they went yay and I thought uh oh all you got was a yay well I think it was like a Yeah I
00:41:05
know that's funny also they they bring them in a little earlier for that early show so they're sitting forever i don't
00:41:11
think there's booze they don't want to see boo i mean unless you specifically ask for they're seated with the
00:41:17
technical issues they can't get up use the bathroom and stuff and I never have shot one that I felt was anywhere near the sets I did before that
00:41:28
but practice set the late show was the late show was was excellent crap like then I was like "Okay we're good we've got we've got something with it." I mean did you use most of They were really good they were really They were both
00:41:40
very good i'm very grateful to all of them but yeah of course I'm grateful anyone shows up when I did a We did a
00:41:46
show in Minneapolis that when I taught and that was the best crowd I've ever Oh see that's why I said that'd be a good one what theater were you in the Guthrie or Paramount maybe no that was I know
00:41:58
i'd have to go in my calendar because they they do have We'll give you 20 minutes could you give me 35 minutes
00:42:06
35 i love when you said you wrote Ted Lasso in LA i pictured you in a castle in England anything in England I feel like it's a castle anything with a British accent seems smarter more sophisticated
00:42:19
you know we've seen all your movies all these years i always tell Dana if I'm famous I'll go over there but I was I
00:42:25
went there for one day and I wasn't too sure i went we went for grown-ups that movie
00:42:32
and uh we all went over there and stayed at the Soho what's up there's a gig in London that's the best gig in London called Always Be Comedy the uh man who
00:42:43
runs that gig James Gil he is obsessed with you David Spain i'm telling you off off camera I might hit you up and say "Hey tell me about this thing." and I might go do it sometime he He can't
00:42:55
believe I'm doing this podcast like he's so excited he said "Get him up get him to do my gig." Like you will you will be
00:43:01
very famous in that room took you 44 minutes to get to this but uh this pitch but uh thank you and uh I might hit you
00:43:08
up so unblock me and I'm going to hit you on Instagram and then all my messages flood through once you unblock me i'm like "Dude I just saw you in the parking lot the
00:43:19
improv say hello why did you drive away as I was chasing after you waving i really
00:43:25
just have to look at my act like you know you might because I didn't get a chance to hear your whole hour obviously but I I have to wonder the big subjects
00:43:36
work overseas politics marriage relationships and when I get I look at my act I've got to see what I have to
00:43:42
throw out because I just don't know you know well also but there's much more everything's [ __ ] everywhere right now like I I think the stuff you're scared wouldn't work would work i should
00:43:54
just try it and see what happens because I'll blame them every everybody looks at
00:44:00
Daily Mail because it's crack cocaine for my brain uh they sift through the commercials and try to look at an
00:44:06
article by the way do you have enough money for Daily Mail Plus it's a real question Dana they just added a plus it's a $1.99 i told him to get [ __ ]
00:44:22
[Music] so by the way you're doing a movie with with Jennifer Lopez currently right yes
00:44:29
yeah we're filming at the moment yeah do you know what it's called i do you tell
00:44:35
me it's called Office Party office romance office time office it's called office meet you at the
00:44:49
office what's it called meet you at the office it's called office yeah so is it a romcom be honest it's a romcom it's a
00:44:55
big school romcom so this is you stepping outside the lines unless you wrote and produced this film no I did I
00:45:03
did co-write this with Jay Kelly and And do you play Roy Kent in this this is a lot of people are asking no okay he plays Ted Lasso he plays Ted i play Key
00:45:16
Jones in this one jlo in my brief encounters with her is quite sweet and funny is this true she's so funny she's always funny and she's brilliant uh
00:45:30
brilliant comedy actor like under like when you see her live I'm like [ __ ] hell you're good at this like she's a really really good comic actor so you wait you just said you wrote it with
00:45:42
your friend is that what you said yes joe Kelly and so you get you get that get up on its feet and then you figure out who's the leading lady who's the
00:45:53
rest of it where you shoot that's all you're in on all that that's great yeah we wrote it on a on a train while I
00:45:59
was making Ted Lasso we sort of had the idea did you think of calling it office train we did we thought call it office station
00:46:10
we went through Yeah you could all do it it could all be played on the train how did you try to make it spin how did you
00:46:16
spin it because it it is a genre what's the uh sort of rough pitch the hook is I suppose I can't tell you much but I can tell you the aim is it's like a really proper classy old school
00:46:30
romcom like a Norah Efron type film but okay with hard R jokes oh okay oh good good that uh any aliens and aliens okay good
00:46:44
that's another good hook um is it too late for David to do a nice little cameo he walks in What about the guy that steals the girl is that part taken uh we dude his stuff
00:46:58
what else could you What else could you bring at this very late that's my only move the good-looking
00:47:05
dashing dude that runs in and she glances at me and sprints toward me hey this I don't know about this guy he was on the planet bye-bye
00:47:18
so I think romcom with R-rated is interesting i can't really think of one so I like that idea yeah I I um Yeah I sounds more real
00:47:30
yes hopefully i think it's going to be good i like that so of your of your two children Ted Lasso and Shrinking which one's your
00:47:40
favorite get off my couch get off my couch Chewy i'm not Chewy i'm Brett you're Chewy to me i'm That's Harrison Ford if you don't know and I love Harrison Ford in it my
00:47:56
wife you can't see our shaking fingers that's a big part yeah I know no one gets mad like Harrison Ford he's so good man my
00:48:10
wife that Chewy your ticks got in my soup again chewy get me out of here shut the [ __ ] up Chewy
00:48:27
he could be He should be Chewy Doo like Scooby-Doo like like a collab so more entertaining Brad so Chewy had sex with Scooby oh I guess I'll give up we can go anywhere you want where you're
00:48:40
going to play Hercules potential you did a cameo and now you're in the Marvel universe
00:48:45
well I I I mean gun to head I can't say anything but at the same time I think that's probably it on that one okay i like gun to head because I
00:48:57
thought what's the difference between Hercules and Roy Kent uh one is a Greek god and the other one is a hairy guy
00:49:04
from Toot no what is it called what's your favorite soccer team called tottenham or something tottenham yeah how do you How do you know that okay
00:49:17
well who you been speaking to i did talk to my soccer buddy Bobby and I said uh cuz I have a Tottenham shirt oh dear and I Yeah I don't even know why but Oh he
00:49:28
gave it to me and so I wear it and if people ask me one question I fall apart so I just like to puff up is Brendan Hunt dating Hana Wing wington
00:49:40
W you're reading that off the internet dating Rebecca oh oh Rebecca that's right oh no no hannah Wington is her real name is dating Rebecca
00:49:52
Wood do you mean Hang on what's the question i don't mean He doesn't know he's reading the internet or something i'm looking I've got Well who's the who's the bad apple in the bunch in that
00:50:05
cast oh he's the difficult one no you said in Ted Lasso is that what you're saying yeah who's the bad apple in the cast there genuinely isn't one and I know
00:50:17
that's an annoying answer but like I don't Who's the most difficult to work with go ahead
00:50:23
uh Dana on this podcast is the most out of us too juno Temple is coming back to play Keley oh right it's coming back right that's
00:50:35
correct yes I believe so guns ahead is there a girl named Keely on the show yes key and there's someone named Keely she's the love there are people in the world called Key yeah oh no is that a
00:50:46
common name over there not one person here named Keely really you have no Key's zero oh we got a couple of Key's
00:50:53
yeah you got too many yeah were the negotiations tough to get the cast to come back or were you guys locked into a
00:50:59
certain salary already uh we we had all signed like contracts in the early day you know forever and ever so they pick up yeah I think so oh that's good makes it easier
00:51:11
saves time how long did you do Just Shoot Me how many years was that that was uh falls in your court well we did six as a mid-season replacement they call it out here and then we went
00:51:23
straight through the old days was 22 episodes a year so we did about a little over six years my god 148 did you It went over there right is that where you
00:51:34
saw it over there yeah I saw it in England oh I love it love it did you uh What was your trajectory on that show in
00:51:41
terms of enjoyment did you always enjoy it was there a bit in the middle where you were like I've had enough of this and then you enjoyed it again or what no
00:51:48
you know I came from SNL and it was options like Dana said you could do your own show like the David Spade Goofy sitcom but I had seen that if it didn't work all your heat's gone they don't
00:51:59
give you another try so it was an ensemble a writer from Larry Sanders uh Steve Levitan and um a good cast and the network already liked it i joined they
00:52:10
added me to a shot pilot so we reshot it and added me cuz NBC was a little fuzzy
00:52:16
on they were on the you know back and forth with it so I got added to it and I liked it the whole run i have to say that it was one of the most fun runs because everyone they were writing for me which
00:52:30
that's now was not exactly the case they did in some but you were sort of in charge of it and then you've got
00:52:36
everywhere you go is good people like on on your show I'm sure and that's always more fun and then
00:52:42
um also it was a little easier than SNL the hours and uh and it was immediately in a top 20 or top 10 and we were in a in a heyday of Seinfeld and ER and Will
00:52:55
and Grace and Friends and Frasier and so we we were at least in the vicinity we weren't those shows but we were with them on the lot with them and it was just all fun to see just a good run i
00:53:08
loved it we And and last thing and then I'll let you talk at the very end is um we had done everyone had had something in their career was good and bad and so
00:53:19
everyone was really happy to be there and lucky and appreciated it and I think some shows people get cocky because it's their first show and it works and so they get sort of out of control but we
00:53:31
were like we're every year we got picked up we're like this is so great cuz it could all go down to [ __ ] everyone knew
00:53:37
it what was your last day like tearjerker of course balling um if I knew we were going to do it again in a year that would have been fun for me yeah but um I guess yours isn't really a
00:53:53
reboot because it's sort of just keep going right yeah there's been a big gap and then we'll don't tell us any secrets
00:53:59
but you got Bill Lawrence who's great he coaches the women's team that got out ted does so it makes it sort of puts us on he's not nodding or shaking his head he's giving us nothing point out i've
00:54:11
got a gun to my head remember I know i think this is the good thing about Marvel also is they don't even say when
00:54:17
they're releasing their movies anymore it's smart they say "We did a big one last week you guys missed it." And we're
00:54:22
like "Yeah you're too secretive about it." Um all right what else what else for this young man Dana i know you had a lot but we got to let him go and we appreciate by the way Brett you're shooting a movie you come in on the
00:54:35
weekend you help us out we wanted to talk to you for a while so thank you very much i appreciate you both very
00:54:41
much and I'm genuinely grateful I got to hang out with you this is very uh very cool for me so thank you for your time i
00:54:46
want you to see me in better lighting but that'll be you know it's fun to see someone on TV playing a character you
00:54:52
know and then meeting you like this it's It's just interesting because all I knew was that you know character um so it's
00:55:01
uh I see why you won the Emmys compliment alert good job compliment alert sorry uh back to back is a super
00:55:11
compliment but anyway I mean I can't it's your podcast uh films to be buried with um if you're ever bored and you have time you should both come and do it one day i would love to have you but no
00:55:23
pressure there's nothing worse than being asked to do a podcast you're off the hook but if you Well I'll do that
00:55:28
one in a second i could talk about movies all day long you know but I I want to know the movie before we go for
00:55:35
you that moved you the most well I talked like ET I find traumatic like I I cried the most like I I remember my dad taking me and my sister
00:55:48
there was like a re-release of ET and I was three four I don't know four five he took us to C at the Sim he was like
00:55:55
"You're going to love this." And we were crying so much that I remember turning to him and saying "Why have you brought us to this?" Yeah yeah yeah like what is this this feels like abuse
00:56:08
this is not There's no fun here i'm devastated it is pretty rough if you're younger I I loved ET i'll be right here i have the same build as ET you know
00:56:20
Brett not to plug my special i talk about ET of all [ __ ] movies of all movies dandelion it's so random you say that um but that one did kind of rough
00:56:32
me up too i I get it i mean those movies like that or like Bambi when you're not
00:56:38
ready for the beginning part and you're like why on who cleared this you know what my friend Rashene Connity if you don't know her she's a [ __ ] brilliant comedian in England and she her father
00:56:51
died and she once said to me you know you Disney always has these films where the parent dies and things like that and
00:56:57
and people say it's good for kids because it teaches them about death she said that when her dad died not for a
00:57:03
second did she think "Well thank God I saw this." No [ __ ] that's a really funny line you're like "Hey your your mom might die
00:57:14
when you're 70 but we'll let you know what it feels like when you're six." Yeah that that was all right buddy i would say Yeah um
00:57:26
you're doing good i don't know if you need any more plugs other than your specials out shrinking's coming season
00:57:31
two Ted Lasso season 4 uh and everything else your podcast how you find time to do it do you guys do more than one a day or you stack them or I just do it I do it a week i don't like free time i go I
00:57:45
get No you like to keep it busy i get deep deep darkness if there's any space so I just fill it up got it huh well
00:57:53
that's a whole other podcast we'll have you back yeah exactly next year yeah anyway it's it's I think about that all
00:58:00
the time anyway lovely to see you guys hey great death and Darkness coming soon severely depressed but Ted Lasso is
00:58:06
coming out uh Jason Sedakus will cheer you up anyway uh tell Jason hello and uh good luck with everything with the movie and guys thank you for having me we'll see you around campus this has been a
00:58:20
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00:58:31
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00:58:36
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