00:00:00
All right, we have the director and producer of Age of Disclosure, which is blowing up about UFOs and UFO
00:00:07
technology, and it's got a it's a really, really intriguing documentary. So, he's going to come on in a minute,
00:00:13
and we're going to break that down. Are we alone in the universe? Can we answer that question?
00:00:19
Are there aliens amongst us? I have a lot of questions for this guy. Technology and spaceships and all of it.
00:00:25
So anyway, that it's uh yeah, that's the number one rental and number
00:00:31
one movie on Amazon Prime right now, beating all the big ones. We talk about that, too. Uh before we get to him,
00:00:37
Dana, very quickly, just to bore the out. Okay. Oh, there was a big What do you got?
00:00:43
In Showbiz News, there was a Netflix merger with who? Warner Brothers,
00:00:50
right? That it owns Harry Potter. Uh, and I'm supposed to work for Netflix again next year. So, I'm really vested
00:00:56
in this. It really means a lot to me. Does it feel Well, it's also Larry
00:01:02
Ellison of Paramont Pictures is not giving up and making a hostile bid going
00:01:07
over the going to the shareholders making a case at 78 billion. Our Fred T our friend Ted
00:01:15
Sarandos came in at 72 billion. I called him and I said, "Look, Ted, you got to up the Annie. It's only 72 billion.
00:01:22
Chump change. Go to 80 billion and get it done. Yeah, let's get with some real bucks in
00:01:27
here. Actually, this is the funniest part cuz I don't text Ted that much and
00:01:33
this is so dumb. So, I thought it was funny that night when I heard about it and I got home and I go, "Hey, Ted, uh,
00:01:40
let me know if you need me to walk you through this merger." That's I thought that was funny. And he
00:01:46
said, "Okay, I think I got it, but I might call you later." And uh he didn't. But I will say I like the term hostile
00:01:52
takeover. I like angry takeover. It's such a weird term. Hostile. I know. Yeah. Just like we don't care
00:01:58
that you don't want us to buy you. We're just coming in. Guns ablazing. It's aggressive.
00:02:04
The only other interesting story coming up was I heard a funny story about the World Cup.
00:02:10
Not that funny, but you know how they had all these cars there? Oh yeah. Oh yeah. World Cup big deal. They say every game
00:02:17
is a Super Bowl. That's how big the World Cup is. Yes. So, they're peppering it all over North America, like different places.
00:02:24
You have a game here and then they just pick two teams, you go here. So, one of the odd situations was Egypt and Iran
00:02:32
got picked to go to Seattle. And it's that's the only World Cup
00:02:38
that's the pride match. Oh my goodness. So, what what are they going to do? Egypt and Iran. I don't know. How'd that
00:02:45
how'd that game go? Well, it's coming up. It's coming up next. It's coming up. Okay. Must see TV.
00:02:51
Yeah, that's a good mustsea one. I think out of all of them, that would lead to a little prickly situation.
00:02:56
How's Mount Fordo? I took it out. No more.
00:03:03
All right, let's get to Dan. I mean, enough. Farah. Yep.
00:03:08
Is uh the director and and let's let's get him in here. Let's let's quickly I want to show the
00:03:14
trailer and uh because That'll just orient you to what? It's a quick
00:03:19
trailer. You'll see what's going on, then we go right into Q&A. All right, here we go.
00:03:29
We've had repeated instances of something operating in the airspace over restricted nuclear facilities and it's
00:03:36
not ours. These are other worldly things that are performing maneuvers that have haven't
00:03:41
been seen. So, look at that thing. There's a whole fleet of them. I have seen with my own
00:03:47
eyes non-human craft and non-human beings.
00:03:53
This is so secret. There have been very few people in our entire government that have been allowed or provided access to
00:04:00
it. Even presidents have been operating on a need to- know basis. But that begins to
00:04:06
ramp out of control. It's not acceptable to have secret parts of government that no one ever sees.
00:04:13
People have been hurt protecting and hiding this information. Some people claimed it would cost them
00:04:18
their lives if they spoke out about these things. You had information being locked away
00:04:24
that could change the trajectory for species. Terrifying.
00:04:41
This is the biggest discovery in human history. I did all the violin work.
00:04:47
Well done. Uh Dan, this is Dan Far, the director. Uh Dan, we'll get right at it. Uh Dane
00:04:53
and I watched this and uh mind-blowing. The one of the ting things
00:04:59
is presidents are temporary employees. they they they don't even get as much information as people under them. Is
00:05:06
that true? Yeah. So, one of the big reveals in the film is that this has not only been
00:05:12
covered up from the public and from congressional oversight, but it's been kept from sitting presidents and that
00:05:18
they're treated as being on a need to- know basis. Um Marco Rubio actually breaks that down in the film, which is
00:05:24
pretty extraordinary. Huh. It's so rude that the president's on a need to- know basis. that that
00:05:30
would be offensive if I was president. So, is it Yeah, it's in the documentary. There's the CIA and then this program
00:05:37
called the legacy program or or we have a sense of an idea of who these people are that carry this information or
00:05:45
Yeah. So, in in the film, a number of the intelligence officials I interviewed
00:05:50
revealed that there is this deeply hidden UAP crash retrieval and reverse engineering program that's referred to
00:05:56
as the legacy program. and they break down the elements of government that are involved in it. So it involves elements
00:06:03
of the CIA, the Air Force, the Department of Energy, and private US
00:06:10
defense contractors. And um you know, Rubio breaks down how it's the pure the
00:06:16
permanent bureaucracy within those elements of government that gatekeep this information and keep
00:06:23
it from elected officials and even sitting presidents. And the view is that
00:06:29
sort of simply put those elect officials come and go whereas the permanent bureaucracy
00:06:34
can stay there for 10, 20, 30 years. Sure. Even that they say it's taxpayer money paying for like a fake program
00:06:42
that billions go some because you know there's so many billions you just hear about flying around that. Who's keeping track of it all? And if
00:06:48
this is keeping this alive where they're doing reverse engineering and working on these spacecraft, it's it's so
00:06:53
mind-boggling to people because every person in this was there 24 interviewed all have real jobs. They're not it's not
00:07:00
some crazy lumberjack in Oregon. It's like we are guys saying we not only we
00:07:06
know they're there. It's just a fact. Everyone's just like obviously we start with they're here. So what are we doing
00:07:13
with them? How are we trying to get the technology? How are we trying to keep it from other countries? Some people say we
00:07:18
should all know what's going on, but others say, "Well, if it gets in the wrong hands, it could really kill us
00:07:25
off." Yeah. So, I mean, the two the two biggest reveals that came out of all my interviews are one, the interview
00:07:33
subjects reveal very clearly that there's been an 80-year cover up of the existence of non-human intelligent life.
00:07:38
And two, that elements of the US government, notably those those elements we just talked about that are involved
00:07:44
in the quoteunquote legacy program, um are they are deeply involved in a highstake secret cold war race with
00:07:51
adversarial nations, most notably China and Russia. And um fear of information
00:07:59
um uh the wrong information getting out is one of the things that has kept kept all this locked down. But we're now at a
00:08:06
place where um the stakes are so high for this technology race that everyone I
00:08:13
interviewed felt it was imperative that the general public in the US learn the base facts of this and know it's real so
00:08:20
that more resources can be put towards winning this race and um the scientific
00:08:27
community and academia can come to understand that it's a valid area of inquiry that it's a real situation that
00:08:32
like their brain power should be put towards. You know, cuz right now, you know, we're in a technology race and 99%
00:08:38
of the scientists in the United States don't even know the situation's real. And that's that's battle.
00:08:45
Make your home smell as good as it looks with Pur, the smart fragrance diffuser that lets you control your scent from
00:08:50
anywhere. Choose from hundreds of premium fragrances, schedule your favorites, and set the perfect mood for
00:08:56
every moment. And right now, get yours free when you
00:09:03
subscribe to Two Cents for 12 months. Don't wait. This limited time offer
00:09:08
won't last. Try it risk-free for 30 days now at pura.com.
00:09:16
what like when as the director and you have your prep, your research and your idea to do this, what what as you're
00:09:23
interviewing and it's coming together, what was the stuff that you kind of went, "Holy shit." You know, it's like,
00:09:29
well, I mean, one of those holy moments for me right off the bat was was was realizing
00:09:36
we you know, we live in a time where Democrats and Republicans in this country don't seem to agree on anything, right? Every everyone Sure.
00:09:42
I agree with that statement. very safe to say. Yeah. Like generally that's the the
00:09:48
overall outlook. However, the leaders of both parties in our country are completely aligned on this and to the
00:09:55
extent that it was really shocking to to experience firsthand you know um
00:10:01
the you know I interviewed Marco Rubio on the same day in the same room that I interviewed Kristen Gillibrand from New
00:10:07
York. you know, two people who were ideologically, politically opposed to each other, and they could not have been
00:10:13
more in lock step on how significant this is, how the base facts need to come
00:10:18
out, um their their understanding of the lay of the land. Uh they were completely
00:10:24
in sync and they went out of their way to tell me how bipartisan and serious this issue. Yeah, that's what made it very credible
00:10:30
and very interesting because you are hearing from these people. You wouldn't it seems Yeah. Why would they bother?
00:10:36
Yeah. In recent times, in the last 10 years, we've seen pilots seeing objects
00:10:41
moving in ways that don't make any sense, you know, and so this this kind of completes the the idea of it or what
00:10:47
what people think, but um did is it more like who where are the aliens or for you
00:10:55
is it like this technology may be in the wrong hands or if it gets in the wrong hands
00:11:01
and describe how would how would you describe the technology besides the speed and how they move around. I mean,
00:11:08
I've got a mind-blowing answer, Dan. Yes. Go. Is this true? It said one of these
00:11:14
spacecraft has 100 times the daily power generated in the USA.
00:11:20
So, what that's referring to is um there's a part of the film well there's
00:11:25
a part of the film where uh Commander Dave Fraver uh famous Navy fighter pilot
00:11:30
very senior guy um he was talking about a UAP he encountered while he was
00:11:37
on active duty you know well before he retired he was in the air he was on a mission um he was in his fighter jet and
00:11:44
he encountered a UAP um that uh is known as the tic-tac-shaped UAP
00:11:50
The New York Times. Yeah. The New York Times ran a big story about this in 2017 and he was describing the perform the
00:11:57
flight performance characteristics of this UAP. What he saw it do with his own eyes and and what his data collection
00:12:03
systems on his airplane were confirming this thing was doing. And one of those those uh performance characteristics it
00:12:09
displayed is it could hover just above the ocean, basically sea level, and then
00:12:16
instantly shoot up to 80,000 ft, which is where you go into space. And then it
00:12:21
could hover there and then come right back down. And it did this all day for hours. And um the
00:12:29
the the energy required to do that once uh to go instantly from sea level to
00:12:36
80,000 ft. Um it at the speed that it did uh is that huge number you just
00:12:42
said. One of one of the scientists in the film said it's it was like the electrical um it's like the energy output of the
00:12:48
entire United States for a week or something like that. It was yeah the exact quote but it was some and how fast they can go through water.
00:12:54
Yeah. the same speed through water, which sounds impossible. Yeah. So, this technology allows them
00:12:59
allows UAP to do what's referred to as transmedium travel where you they can go
00:13:05
effortlessly from space to the air to the ocean. Uh which we don't have any we
00:13:10
don't have any vehicles that can do that. We can't even get our heads around. It's they travel in a bubble. That was very
00:13:16
interesting, Dana. They Yeah. So, now they realize here's like a triangle object. It has a bubble around.
00:13:22
But that's the radar goes around it. That's why they can't pick them up. One of the huge breakthroughs that is
00:13:28
revealed in the film um several of the senior scientists that I interviewed who who worked on classified UAP programs
00:13:35
for the government. They reveal uh the breakthrough technology that they have
00:13:41
realized is is the the the key component to how UAP work. And essentially to put
00:13:48
it in the most simple terms um which admittedly aren't there's no real simple way to say it but the simplest way to
00:13:54
say it is they are they are they are warping space time in a localized area. They are creating an immense amount of
00:13:59
energy in a specific area around the craft and essentially they're creating a
00:14:05
bubble around the craft and that bubble separates the craft from the environment around it. So the laws of physics that
00:14:12
we live by and that our aircraft, you know, um, you know, operate within, um,
00:14:17
they're irrelevant at that point to the craft in the bubble. The the the the craft is completely separated from our
00:14:23
environment and it's in its own spaceime, right? And so that
00:14:28
technological breakthrough explains everything we've been observing. So in
00:14:34
the bubble, the craft could be, you know, going at a leisurely pace. Yeah. and and from the outside it looks like
00:14:41
it's doing these impossible speeds. Um we see it going from space to air to
00:14:46
water and we're like how does that work? But for for the for the craft in the bubble the environment has no impact on
00:14:52
it. It's just moving seamlessly through it. And you know we wonder why we can't get these things great on radar. Well
00:14:58
the bubble explains that the radar emits radar towards an object and it's
00:15:04
supposed to bounce back to the radar emitter and that's how that's how radar works. But in in the case of these crafts, the radar just bounces around
00:15:11
the bubble and keeps going. It never goes back to the radar emitter. And so that answers the question of why it's so hard. And then it even answers age-old
00:15:18
questions like why is it so hard to get a photo of of UAP? You know, we all have cameras. We all have 4K cameras with our
00:15:24
iPhones. How come we can't get photos? Every video is bad. Yeah. And it's like because you're It makes sense though because you're taking
00:15:30
a photo or a video through a space-time barrier. It's the equivalent of, you
00:15:36
know, try taking pictures of fish that are in the ocean from above the ocean. It doesn't work out. You're you're going
00:15:41
through a different medium. It's going to be all distorted. Even if it was like a koi pond and they're like right there, you could see them with your eyes. If
00:15:47
you go to take a picture, it's all distorted because it through a different different medium. And so it's the same
00:15:53
it's the same concept. Um the the bubble around the craft um
00:15:59
is essentially a barrier. And um you know now as our our our um camera
00:16:06
systems um on and our and our and our and our uh other data collection systems
00:16:11
on our fightercraft become more advanced. They're starting to capture video of these things where you can actually see the bubble around the
00:16:18
craft. Crazy. Some of the UAP videos that have been declassified and and made public, you can actually see it now that you know
00:16:24
what to look for. You can see the the distortion around the craft. Is that when they show orbs? It's like when the orbs are like getting shelled
00:16:31
in the east coast and for a long time you go they actually look circular and
00:16:36
sometimes you see them floating around and you never know if it's real or not but you see them in someone's backyard
00:16:41
even or just in their neighborhood they're perfectly circular and you you don't know what's going on. Yeah, the orbs the orb phenomenon is
00:16:48
certainly associated. It's it's all you know one and the same and orbs have been seen all over the world since World War
00:16:55
II. In during World War II, fighter pilots saw them so much they made up a nickname for them. They called them foo
00:17:00
fighters. Uh it was a very common thing that Allied um fighter pilots
00:17:06
experienced, encountered. Um orbs orbs are seen all over the world on a regular basis. And you know, there's still a lot
00:17:13
of questions around them, but orbs might simply just be another form of um you
00:17:18
know, warping space time in a localized area. It might just be a uh means of travel,
00:17:24
jumping around. Yeah. Could you reverse engineer this and talk
00:17:29
to an astrophysicist or put it in ask AI like a craft that can do this 80,000 ft
00:17:35
and go underwater and you know spacetime and all that? What are the odds it's originating from Earth or in our minds
00:17:43
is it everywhere? Is it gets into religiosity almost like where the VA
00:17:48
universe is so vast from what I understand it's really it's really big. So, but maybe they can go through a
00:17:54
wormhole. I mean, what do you have any personal beliefs on on on this? Uh, where did they originate from? Or is it
00:18:00
from the middle of the earth? It's so because they're in the Yeah. moon. The So, the people the people I
00:18:06
interviewed, a number of them go on the record confirming that this technology
00:18:11
is not not made by humans. There have been Yeah. crashes that have been recovered. There have been the people I interviewed go on
00:18:18
the record saying that in some cases the uh the crashes included the the
00:18:23
recoveries of of the crashed uh uh UAP included the bodies of nonhumans. Right. So
00:18:28
they're putting it on the table that we know there have been nonhumans in
00:18:34
these crafts. Right now in terms of where they're from, um look, there's no no one I spoke to had a definitive
00:18:40
answer, but all things were on the table. A number of the people in the film um shared essentially the
00:18:46
possibilities which is extraterrestrial um interdimensional is something that's
00:18:51
discussed amongst these people as wild and far out as that sounds. Uh and then another scenario that's talked about is
00:18:58
maybe they've been here all along and they just they were here before us, right? And I feel like that's true. Yeah,
00:19:05
we keep finding these hieroglyphics and ancient things and you just go this some stuff is starting to not make as much
00:19:10
sense as it used to and you have to request everything because you're just told one thing and you just go yeah you
00:19:16
got blinders on and if you start to dig you go wait a second is this possible that we're just a blip of all time and
00:19:24
there's just been a lot happening before and after. Yeah. I mean this goes back to Roswell where that was the first time they covered it
00:19:30
up and then they started going that's what happens. You tell one lie. And so there were like I think two or three
00:19:35
that crashed in Roswell or there pieces there's two bodies maybe. Uh there was um there was well with the
00:19:41
guys in my film. No the guy Yeah. The guys in my film go on the record saying it was actually uh um one craft that
00:19:48
crashed into two pieces, two crash sites. And there were four and there were four non-human bodies in there. And
00:19:55
the people in my film go on the record saying that the the craft the recovered elements of the craft and the bodies
00:20:01
were taken to Wright Pat Air Force Base in Ohio. Um where at the time uh the
00:20:08
Army Airore which became the Air Force um had their best reverse engineers
00:20:13
which is why why everything went there. And do we have anything now that we've taken from craft involving like even
00:20:20
iPhones or or how as technology I I had heard other things where there's a
00:20:25
trade-off there like we will you you can learn from this or did you go into
00:20:30
anything you didn't go into anything about alien abductions on this but no I I I did I did I did learn that
00:20:38
there's reality to that that topic but I didn't include it in the film um for a
00:20:44
couple reasons. a I needed to make tough choices on on what to cut and what not to cut to get it to a a run time that
00:20:51
wouldn't wouldn't put people to sleep, you know, right? Um you had to keep it around like I'm at
00:20:56
one the run time's at 1 hour and 50 minutes right now and even when I went like a few minutes
00:21:02
past that I you you start to feel it, right? Like the the version that was 154 felt a few
00:21:08
minutes too long, you know? Yeah. It's like movies when you do a movie. Yeah. You test people give up
00:21:13
after a while. Well, it's a it's d it's dense in a good way. There's a lot of information coming at you on this thing
00:21:19
and it gets better as it goes along. You sort of get your bearings, you figure out who everyone is.
00:21:25
Yeah. They start telling you stuff. You go, I think I've heard that. And then you it gets ramps up and you start getting scared.
00:21:30
The third act was like, did did the nonhuman did I'm assuming there's no
00:21:37
pictures of them, but did anyone ever go on record or describe what a nonhuman
00:21:44
looked like, you know, are they grays? Are they like three-foot grays? Are they reptilians? So, we don't
00:21:50
get into like the um we don't get into what non-human beings
00:21:56
have looked like in the film, but uh I I will say that conversations I've had with people who have had encounters um
00:22:04
the reference point they tend they have used in the conversations with me is uh
00:22:10
the non-humans in close encounters being very accurate uh to what they to what they saw, which you know is pretty it's
00:22:18
a pretty fascinating thing because um you know there were it's an amazing movie. It inspired my
00:22:24
curiosity in the topic for sure and um you knowh Stephen had uh had some
00:22:30
consultants working on him with that who were aware of a lot of facts back then. So
00:22:35
right like off thereord facts like they those kind of movies it's funny they seem to know more when in the future you
00:22:41
go oh they must have known something back then because like you probably know a lot more than people are going on
00:22:48
camera and saying then they tell you I don't want to say this on camera but there's actually way more happening and
00:22:53
you probably know a lot of that stuff. Yeah. So go go ahead and say it. And there's
00:23:02
fine cool you and Dana here.
00:23:07
So uh uh uh but I'll tell you the other movie makes me think a lot about this everything I've learned is the abyss.
00:23:13
You know watch the abyss again now with all this this information about the activity that happens under our oceans.
00:23:20
Um, I do wish I had more time in the film to go into what's been um happening
00:23:26
in our in our oceans. Um, a number of the Navy officials I spoke to um went
00:23:34
went on the record with me telling me about um super
00:23:39
uh concerning activity under the oceans like like giant crafts the size of football fields flying by our submarines
00:23:47
at thousands of miles an hour being caught on sonar and data and on radar terrible out
00:23:56
it Sounds like stuff out of science fiction for sure, 100%. But what's so wild about this whole situation is,
00:24:03
you know, we're quickly we're quickly getting to a place where the things that
00:24:09
seemed like science fiction just 5 10 years ago ago are are are reality now. It's real.
00:24:14
Even stuff that's publicly known, think about it. Like even stuff that's publicly known that that is being talked
00:24:20
about that has nothing to do with UAP. Just scientific breakthroughs that are being talked about in the last few years. 10 years ago that would have sounded like science fiction. You know,
00:24:26
we're rapidly progressing technologically at an unimaginable rate.
00:24:32
Yes. I think um are you invested heavily in AI stocks or how's your portfolio
00:24:38
doing? Yeah, Nvidia. Nvidia Nvidia.
00:24:44
So, has doing this kind of changed you in a way? I mean, has it this journey?
00:24:50
um because it it it's such an interesting topic and there's real stuff
00:24:55
around it and I'm fascinated by it and there's been in you know alien civilizations and maybe more
00:25:01
call them casual documentaries about this over the years. This is the first one that seemed very conf comp
00:25:06
comprehensively serious about it without pushing narratives that hard just going
00:25:12
here's the the information. I just wonder has it has it changed you doing this? I mean, because if you really
00:25:18
think aliens are here and they're advanced and they're kind of scary or maybe they'll be benign, it's just a
00:25:23
different way to walk around on the planet. Yeah. Are they is the word they're here walking around?
00:25:30
Um, no one I interviewed said that to me. No. Oh, wow. I know more than you then.
00:25:37
Well, wait a minute. Spade from my sources at the Grove. Uh, what does Spade do? I'm on the chat rooms. Go
00:25:43
ahead. Now, I feel like they're kind of might be around, but I don't know. I mean,
00:25:49
they anything from last year on Ring doorbells, anything where people are
00:25:54
capturing anything on video is written off now. Once AI comes, it's almost like planned because now you can't believe
00:26:01
that stuff as much as you would. And that's scary, too, because one in five is probably real
00:26:07
and it no one the first comment is always AI. You bring up a great point though, and I' I've said this in a
00:26:13
couple interviews recently, which is we live in a time where you could put a 4K
00:26:18
video of a giant UFO taken from a security camera on a, you know, serious
00:26:24
military base. You could put that on the nightly news on like Fox and CNN at the same time,
00:26:30
make a big deal out of it, and half of the human population will say it's AI and that it's, you know, made from some
00:26:37
visual effects studio in Hollywood. Sure. Um, and so that's a challenging time to live in where even actual real
00:26:44
video evidence will will be viewed as as as BS. And that's why I think this film
00:26:50
is so significant and why I'm so glad it came together because this is 34 people
00:26:56
with incredible resumes putting their name and their reputation on the line to
00:27:02
share what they lawfully can with the public about this extraordinary stuff and the situ the reality of this
00:27:08
situation. And I think that is the best evidence at this point in human history that we
00:27:13
can have because video is the idea of uh you know
00:27:18
credible video is a compromised thought right it doesn't really exist but people
00:27:23
who hold security clearances and want to keep them so they can provide for their families and you know people who have
00:27:29
you know ambition to run for president one day and people who want to stay in office like they have a lot to lose
00:27:34
going on camera on the record saying this stuff and they're doing it because they think it's important. Um
00:27:41
that that to me is the most compelling and they can get they were saying in there you don't want to get the guy dies
00:27:47
of a four gunshots into the back of the head suicide. Yeah. These people a lot of these people
00:27:52
tremendous risk stepping up things happen because this is such high dollar high stakes. If they have the
00:27:59
technology from these craft that could they said it would cancel out they can you your cars could you don't need oil
00:28:05
you don't need coal you don't even need batteries like these things can just if we have that and someone feels like they
00:28:11
do I don't know if it's big corporations big companies hidden in China here but
00:28:16
someone's working on that and in the movie they're saying we got to share it with the world because we could cure a
00:28:23
lot of things we could fix a lot of problems so aren't we doing that but and also you know The movie, I think,
00:28:29
does a really good job at filling people in on why it's so complicated of a situation and why there's different sides of the coin. So, this technology
00:28:37
get that exists, has pros and cons. It can it can be used to revolutionize the way we live. It could potentially solve
00:28:44
the energy crisis. It could lead to interstellar travel and expanding our horizons. It could dramatically
00:28:51
revolutionize our lives and change the trajectory of our species. But it could also be used um to make weapons of mass
00:28:58
destruction that are far more destructive. Sure. And dangerous than than nuclear weapons.
00:29:03
And so um that has sort of like that dilemma I think has sort of paralyzed
00:29:09
the gatekeepers of this information because no one wants to pick a lane. Um,
00:29:15
I think the film shows that there is a valid argument for just making it a humanitarian issue and having it be the
00:29:22
one thing that can unite all nations to tackle this and figure out a way forward that's in the best interest of mankind
00:29:28
and doesn't cause problems. I think people get scared. They go the government because the government is on
00:29:33
there saying we should know so we could tell the people and then there's half the people go we don't trust that the
00:29:39
government is going to do that and and make sure we know everything. And obviously they're not right now. There
00:29:46
seems like some good people on here that are trying and there seems like there's some that are probably behind the scenes
00:29:51
saying we can't let this out and we're never going to and we don't want it to happen. Uh yeah.
00:29:56
So I kind of get both sides. I think it's slowly coming out and the slower it's it's not bad that it's this slow
00:30:02
because people have to get their head around it and it's so complicated and a little scary
00:30:07
and to answer your earlier question that's the other that's the second reason I didn't include um topics that
00:30:13
fall within this this issue um you know like that are a bridge too far for people like like getting into abductions
00:30:19
and stuff like that. I think it was really important that the film, you know, set the the base facts, the lay of
00:30:27
the land sequel one day and say, "Okay, you handled that. Now, can you handle
00:30:32
this level?" Cuz we're probably it's tip of the iceberg like of what we know just this is so rudimentary in the real huge
00:30:40
huge picture. I thought one thing that was interesting was um there was only
00:30:45
one thing. No, I thought one of the things that was interesting was nuclear power plants. nuclear missiles and all
00:30:52
these generals, these people that have legit jobs that their credibility is online, they they see it come, there's a
00:30:58
light, there's an orb, it comes over, boom, boom, it starts knocking them out, turning them all off, and then they take
00:31:03
off. Or the one flying next to the rocket and they have a video of it and it Yeah.
00:31:09
zaps the rocket and takes off and turns it off. The activity over the UAP activity over
00:31:14
nuclear weapon sites is an ongoing issue. the people in my film
00:31:19
say and it's been going on since um since the 40s since we you know since
00:31:25
the atomic race since we were messing with you know cracking the atom and atomic energy and as we've progressed
00:31:31
technologically in harnessing energy uh the UAP activity over sites related to
00:31:37
nuclear energy has increased um one of those particular stories you just
00:31:43
mentioned in the film stands out to me as one of the more mind-blowing um
00:31:49
reveals out of the interviews I did. Uh there was a there was a UAP event um at Vanderberg Air Force Base, which is, you
00:31:56
know, we're all in LA right now. That's just about two hours up the coast. It's it's right around Santa Barbara, so not
00:32:02
I'm close to it. Yeah. Oh, you're close to it. Yeah. So, you know, uh not far. And um I interviewed a
00:32:10
couple of the Air Force security guards who, you know, were trusted to to to
00:32:15
guard this classified military base where there's weapons of mass destruction. And they witnessed with
00:32:21
their own eyes uh one day a bright light coming off the coast, coming from the Pacific Ocean towards the base, which is
00:32:27
right on the coast. And at first they thought it was an airplane coming their way because they saw bright light. But as it got closer, the light faded and it
00:32:34
was this giant black craft that was the size of a football field and rectangular and it had no lights, no windows, no
00:32:41
visible means of propulsion and it just hovered over them and they all just looked up with, you know, in awe at what
00:32:47
they're looking at and then it just shot off at thousands of miles an hour up the coast. And what's wild is when you hear
00:32:55
multiple people describing the same thing in separate interviews in detail and then you get all the full context.
00:33:01
You know, they've never spoken up publicly about this. They kept it to themselves. They didn't try to like it wasn't a story they were out there
00:33:07
pedalling to try to get rich or famous. Um it was a process for me to like make
00:33:12
them comfortable going on camera in this film. Um wasn't an easy, you know,
00:33:18
decision for them. Uh they shared with me the police blotter uh the actual Air Force police reports that had come in
00:33:24
with all the details. It all lines up and you know that's just so
00:33:29
extraordinary. You know, put yourself in the shoes of uh Yeah. Well, that's a lifechanging event. If
00:33:36
you see a giant spacecraft in the sky, Yeah. There was one over Phoenix like that years ago and our governor came
00:33:42
out. It was like in the 90s. Yeah. Probably probably a mile. It had it had
00:33:48
it just like lights like this. And so everyone thought it was this. It was a bunch of little ships.
00:33:54
But then it was slowly moving. They go, "Oh, there's a light over there. Oh, it's all the whole mass is one piece
00:34:00
like a mile." And for 45 minutes it went slowly went over and they said it was a joke and then
00:34:07
later Barry or fight I think whoever the uh governors
00:34:12
can. Yeah. It I was on Cback Mountain. I saw it was real. It was Yeah. He couldn't see it then.
00:34:17
Yeah. Okay. Yeah. You know who the first pilot was? The first person to call that in was coincidentally
00:34:23
it was uh it was Kurt Russell. Oh, that's right. I've heard this story.
00:34:29
Russell the actor. Yeah. He was in his airplane and he called it in. Oh, with Oliver. Yeah.
00:34:36
Yeah. There there was one up here um about a week ago, you know. Um
00:34:42
my son took a picture of it. just lined up little lights for so many miles. Didn't really make any sense. Yeah. Wow.
00:34:49
I could send you the photo, but I I do. Yeah. I mean, I guess I you know, I've seen all these science fiction films and
00:34:56
I I love Close Encounters in 2001, and it's if if this these people, these
00:35:02
entities, these aliens are studying us. They're either going over Vanderberg, seeing where we're at, oh, we can still
00:35:08
handle them. No big deal. or they're trying to I can handle these or they're trying to protect us, you
00:35:14
know, maybe this is the time we to get rid of their toys or do you have any theory about that in your brain of like
00:35:19
what are they up to? We can't know but you know well the the the
00:35:25
leading theory on intention amongst the people I interviewed um you know we we unpacked this some in the film you
00:35:30
remember the um the the the leading theory is that they're paying attention
00:35:37
to our nuclear progress and our defense capabilities and monitoring that closely
00:35:44
because we are either already there technologically in our hidden programs
00:35:49
and doing what they're um or we're on the verge of doing what they're doing and they're concerned
00:35:55
about us. That that's the leading theory because the majority of the tension is to our attention is to our nuclear
00:36:02
progress and our defense capabilities. And so if you put yourself in the context of a more advanced,
00:36:08
technologically advanced uh species, you know, there's the most logical scenario
00:36:13
is they're monitoring our progress to the point where we would they would have to contend with us and then they're
00:36:19
monitoring our defense capabilities to see what sort of problems they might encounter with us. And that's the most
00:36:26
logical, you know, as one of the intelligence officials, Chris Melon, in the film says, you know, number one
00:36:32
priority of life, you know, at large throughout the universe is survival.
00:36:37
Yeah. I've always felt like a security system should do more than just react after
00:36:42
something happens. If you could stop someone from breaking in before they even got inside, why wouldn't you?
00:36:50
Most old school systems only alert you once. Obviously, it's already too late. Mhm.
00:36:55
That's why they're simply safe. You should do it. It's proactive. AI powered cameras watch for potential
00:37:02
threats outside. And if something seems a little off, a little suspicious, live
00:37:07
agents can step in immediately, talking to the person through the camera, warning them they're on video, calling
00:37:13
police if they need to. They can even trigger a siren or a spotlight. It's all designed to stop a crime before it
00:37:19
happens. I do like this product. I'm telling you, the setup simple, the monitoring is dependable. It gives me
00:37:27
real peace of mind when I'm away. No long-term contracts, no hidden fees. You can cancel any time. US News and
00:37:33
World Report has named Simply Safe, one of the best home security systems for 5
00:37:38
years running with a 60-day money back guarantee. You can try it risk- free. This month only, take 50% off on any new
00:37:45
system. This is one of the best prices you'll ever see for Simplysafe. Don't miss it. It's simplysafe.comfotw.
00:37:54
Again, that's simply fotw. And lock in your discount. There's no safe like
00:37:59
simply safe. Life can't be safe or simple, but it's
00:38:05
simply safe for you. Safe and simple. Do you agree with Steven G? You know, Dr. Steven G. You
00:38:11
would have heard of him along the way, but we had a mono couple two years ago. He said that there's some black ops,
00:38:16
some hidden places that are building this and reverse engineering and a lot
00:38:21
of the ones we see are made by us. Have you heard any of that? Yes. So, I mean, look, uh, one of the
00:38:29
one of the intelligence officials in my film goes on the record saying that some of the UAP we see are nonhum are
00:38:37
nonhuman intelligent technology. Non the tech, excuse me, the technology of non-human intelligent life. Yeah.
00:38:42
Um and and and then some uh is the product of our retrieval and crash our um retrieval and
00:38:50
reverse engineering program and some is um adversarial technology from their
00:38:55
reverse engineering program. So there's three sets of circumstances that are all
00:39:00
playing out at the same time. Nuts. So a spaceship crashes, they they get a
00:39:06
hold of it and they try to reverse engineer the got to be an expensive piece of machinery that people want. My god.
00:39:13
In China, they get it. If I mean, h wow. So, so some of the intelligence officials break down in the film how
00:39:19
there are recovery teams in position in various parts of the world that can quickly get to a crash site,
00:39:27
recover it, classify all the materials recovered, classify the fact that the mission even happened. And um they're
00:39:34
extremely well organized. And you know, as one of the intelligence officials says in the film, very very
00:39:41
specifically, he very specifically says uh nothing would stop any country uh
00:39:46
from going after one of these one of these recoveries, whether it's in their
00:39:53
um in their uh country or not. Um yeah, they all and uh
00:39:59
of course. Yeah. So it's uh it's pretty wild and that gets you thinking you know every
00:40:04
time you see uh you know from time to time you see these stories like um you
00:40:09
know multiple military countries militaries end up in the same area of the ocean doing some unexplainable you
00:40:15
know activity and makes you wonder what's really going on. You know what gave me the chills was one quick Dana
00:40:20
where he says the guys on he's testifying one of the I think whistleblowers and he says when you see
00:40:27
all this stuff and you know what's going on and you think they would be a threat to us could we defend ourselves and he
00:40:33
goes absolutely not everyone goes holy he goes without question they would wipe the floor
00:40:39
there's nothing we can do to them there's nothing so that's that's good in a way where you go they could do what if they're here
00:40:46
they could do whatever they want and they're just kind of monitoring and snooping around and and hopefully uh I
00:40:52
don't know do you believe there's any any places on the moon there's any
00:40:58
there's any buildings there's any bases I didn't get into that to be honest with
00:41:04
you with with anyone you know hour 50 going to make another one
00:41:10
yeah you might have to just for me we're all hoping that stuff the more whistleblowers come out and stuff kind
00:41:17
of comes out. Of course, we the public would want to know and I think this documentary has kind of stoked it up. I
00:41:23
guess you built over time and all of a sudden it was really in the ether age of disclosure
00:41:29
beating out, you know, these, you know, getting huge numbers. So, that must have been really satisf
00:41:35
Yeah, that's a big deal. That means people care. They're interested. Absolutely. Yeah. I'm really proud. We're within a couple days of releasing.
00:41:42
We released on November 21st and within the first 48 hours um we broke the record uh for bestselling documentary
00:41:50
ever on Prime Video. And in those first 10 days of release, we were the number one and number two the the rental option
00:41:57
and the purchase option, right? Were each the number one and number two bestselling movies um on all Prime Video
00:42:04
out of all movies. And we were outperforming um you know big studio movies which was definitely
00:42:09
one battle after another. very satisfying. Yeah. One battle after another. Jurassic Park Rebirth, uh, The Conjuring, we
00:42:17
outperformed all these films in the first 10 days in that critical week of thank the Thanksgiving week while everyone's home. So, it's um yeah, I'm
00:42:23
really grateful for that that response and, you know, humbled to see it break through like that. Uh, you know, you
00:42:30
guys you guys long worked in in mainstream Hollywood like like I have and and uh
00:42:37
I'll tell you every single major distributor and every major streamer passed on this film. I premiered it
00:42:44
South by Southwest tale. I love it. Yeah. I I I I premiered it at South by Southwest Film Festival in March. We
00:42:50
opened opening weekend in the Parammont Theater, the biggest theater they have. 1100 seats. I played that.
00:42:56
Totally packed lying around the block. standing ovation, whole nine yards. It all went great. It was an amazing
00:43:02
amazing opening. Uh the trailer launched with like 20 million organic views,
00:43:07
which is beyond unprecedented for a doc and you know excitedly went and shared
00:43:12
it with all the all the major distributors and streamers and they all had great things to say, but then but
00:43:19
they all they all had great things to say, but then they passed and and I and now they're mad because look at the
00:43:24
money it's bringing in. Look at the Yeah. Now they're now they they missed out. But I think we we're living in a time where the major studios and the
00:43:31
streamers um are just staying away from anything that's controversial, you know, um anything that um
00:43:39
could in any way impact them politically and um and I think that's unfortunate. But I
00:43:45
also think we're living in a time, thank God, where there's all this great, you know, these great platforms like like
00:43:51
podcast and and and civilian journalism that is still bringing attention to this
00:43:56
stuff that, you know, legacy media is ignoring, you know. Yeah. Yeah. And the people obviously are
00:44:01
interested. It's an a-olitical film because it is, you know, I don't know if
00:44:07
it's ironic or bizarre or whatever, but first time both parties have chimed in on like the same film or the same
00:44:13
documentary. So that I I mean in in recent memory of so but thanks man. That's very interesting. Dane, anything
00:44:19
else you want to ask us? I just uh when I reached I just ordered a a really superstar telescope um based
00:44:26
on Oh, for real? Cuz you're out there. We can see. Yeah. Oh, yeah. I see a night sky out here.
00:44:31
There's no ambient light. It's it's stunning. But yeah, it's fascinating and congratulations and
00:44:36
thanks for doing it. It's really really interesting and it was great to to watch. So, um I guess we'll just all be
00:44:44
kind of more interested in this area. Yeah. I think my hope is that the film just makes the average person out there
00:44:51
in the public realize that this is a real situation that everyone needs to be aware of and then eventually that
00:44:58
will that will lead to the public pushing
00:45:03
its elected representatives everywhere all over the world to be more transparent about this. And I think it's
00:45:09
only a matter of time before we we get to a place where a sitting president in the US steps to the mic and and tells
00:45:15
the world definitively we're not alone. The universe, the base facts, I think this film really sets the stage
00:45:21
for that. I wouldn't be surprised if it happens sooner than later. Um anyway, Dana will do it.
00:45:27
Yeah, there you go. We're going to make a big announcement. Excuse me. We're going to make it. We know how to make it. We're going to tell
00:45:34
a lot of people about a lot of things. You're not going to believe it. You're not You're going to believe it. been many people have seen and if you look at
00:45:40
it and you think about it, what is it? I'm not good.
00:45:45
All right, Dan. Thanks, buddy. Uh uh we'll look for you out there and we'll look for a sequel one day. Thanks for coming on.
00:45:51
Appreciate it. Appreciate the support, guys. Well, that was interesting. Um
00:45:57
yes, that's it was a lot. Like I watched it and I it was sort of building up and
00:46:02
I was like, "Oh boy." way and I was watching before I went to bed. So I I stopped it, of course, cuz I'm a total puss.
00:46:08
Were you scared? I was just getting a little weirded out. Scared? Yeah, they say some stuff in there where
00:46:13
I go. So, uh, and I kind of buy into it anyway. And so, by the way, I'm scared
00:46:20
of it, but I do want to know about it. It's a definitely a intriguing, fascinating area. Uh,
00:46:27
and if they if the aliens that are, you know, zooming around and stuff, if they are potentially some of them are fans of
00:46:35
this podcast, Yeah. I'll just say I'm not afraid of you. This is my message for you aliens. Bring
00:46:42
it on. Yeah. I say I say rackom.
00:46:47
I haven't said rack them in a while, too. I would I would say it to them. Uh, but uh but ultimately it was worth it. I
00:46:54
did rent it. I guess you could rent or buy. I rented it just on a whim. And uh I think it's it's worth the watch. And
00:47:01
thanks Dan for coming on. And uh I was going to wrap up, but I do want to say Dana, by popular demand, we definitely
00:47:08
want to do this buzzing around segment because I work on these for months. We have to inject scenarios
00:47:15
into this. Okay. Okay. I wrote some names down. All right. Hold on. I went into your arsenal.
00:47:21
Hold on. What do you have to do? I'm just going to tell you. Well, well, I'm gonna write them down. Go
00:47:28
ahead. Oh, okay. I can't see you anymore. I got to find you. I know. Hang on. Oh, there you are. Yikes. Oh,
00:47:34
you showed up on camera. By the way, the the stuff was so technological when Dan
00:47:39
was talking. I could tell I understood it and you didn't. But that was fine. I'll tell you more about it later on what it means. I Yeah, I I fell asleep with my eyes
00:47:46
open twice. You You were like, I don't know what's going I couldn't understand a thing. You kept
00:47:51
getting in there. They have a lot of physicists on there and they they're smarter. They're like that that kind of
00:47:57
lost me because they know what they're talking about. Yeah. Okay. Here we go. Your scenario because I have to go with
00:48:04
Nikki Glazer to the Caesar's Palace in January. Oh yeah. Is Vegas and it's a card game.
00:48:11
Any actually any anything in the casino. Okay. And uh
00:48:16
Liam Niss and Michael Kaine. This is going to be buzzing around. This is our segment
00:48:23
sponsored by 5Hour Energies. Bless you. New gingerbread snap flavor. Tis the season for tasty caffeine with five.
00:48:30
Don't start yet. With 5hour energy shots that bring the festive vibes anywhere with a portable realable 2oz shot. Head
00:48:38
to your local retailer Amazon or www.5ourgy.com to order yours today. So you have your
00:48:46
instructions. I'll try. Start when you are ready. Okay.
00:48:55
I'd like for you to hit me. What do you mean? What do you mean hit you? Well,
00:49:00
I'd like I'd like another code cuz I'm showing a 16 and I doubt they got away
00:49:08
with this. So, you got to hit me. Oh, you're going to hit on 16? All right. I've got skills I've acquired
00:49:14
that make me a nightmare for a hitting man like you. Do you know? Do you know who I'm doing? That's good. Liam N. Yeah,
00:49:20
from Taken. From Taken. Yes, he's And he's still angry. He's mad about everything usually.
00:49:27
I I totally busted. You screwed me over. You should have denied me the card. You
00:49:33
can't blame me. I have skills I've acquired that make me a nightmare. I heard that part.
00:49:39
Yeah. And it's boring the second time. What about you, Bill Clinton? Well, I've got
00:49:44
I mean I've got uh two queens and I've got I've got three aces. That's called a
00:49:50
full house. We're not playing poker, you fool. You can't wait. You can't wait at 21. Would
00:49:57
you play poker? You bloody fool. You're out of your mind.
00:50:02
I like this is tracking. Oh, look. Who's there? It's
00:50:08
Paul McCartney. Oh, in the casino. Well, you look like you're having a lot
00:50:14
of fun. He's playing poker. He's playing 21. You know, I say we start all over
00:50:20
and we play Tiddly Winks. You know, Tiddly Winks. It's very popular. People
00:50:25
seem to like it. Oh, what about Ker Plunk? K Plunk. My name is Klunk.
00:50:32
Do you know Ker Plunk? It's an old game you could play. Oh, Ker Plunk. I Do you know what Tidley Winks is?
00:50:38
Yeah. I'm not really old, but I I've heard that.
00:50:43
I got this. Here's what Leon also says. Yeah. When Michael Kane says, "I'm going to hit on 16," he goes,
00:50:50
"Good luck." It's a little Jason Stray. I'm going in
00:50:56
there. You know, when the guy calls Untaken and he can't find his voice, he goes,
00:51:02
he plays it back and he hears the guy go cuz he goes, "I'm going to find you." And the guy goes, "Good luck." And he
00:51:07
will kill you. Why don't let's make Jason Stratham the dealer and Michael is
00:51:12
what's his name? Strath Stratham. Yeah. So I've just I've just sat down. I
00:51:18
have a cocktail and uh I just want to know are you the one dealing the carts?
00:51:23
Are you the dealer? I'm the beekeeper and I keep the bees.
00:51:31
But are you also I know you're a beekeeper, but are you also the dealer?
00:51:38
I'm only doing this undercover. Well, shouldn't he say I'm the dealer?
00:51:44
I'm the dealer. I've got all the cards and and if I hit you, you might not get up.
00:51:55
God, this thing's falling apart. I like how you brought me into it, though. I brought I brought I brought you into I
00:52:00
bring Bill Clint in. I like cards. I've always loved cards. I like getting hit on by cards. And that's a hit on
00:52:08
hitting on people. But I thought he'd go, "I'm the dealer and I deal cards."
00:52:15
Like it's some war movie or something. I deal the cats. I deal the cods cuz I'm the dealer. Get
00:52:22
it? Jesus. A little bit of a I don't know if I like
00:52:27
my part in this. Well, I don't know. Maybe this one discombobulated. No, I liked it. But listen, fun.
00:52:34
That was buzzing around. Sponsored by 5our Energy's new gingerbread snap flavor. Fuel your holiday hustle with as
00:52:39
much caffeine as a 12 oouncez premium cup of coffee and zero sugar. Available in stores, Amazon, or online at
00:52:45
www.5ourenergy.com. That's 5hour energy.com.
00:52:52
Oh, you're still going. Good job. Okay, that's good. And then uh thanks
00:52:57
for watching everybody. And well, thanks for watching the show or listening to the show. So, I hope you
00:53:02
enjoyed it. I did. And we'll see you next week. Like you said,
00:53:12
hey guys, if you're loving this podcast, which you are, be sure to click follow on your favorite podcast app. Give us a
00:53:18
review, fivestar rating, or maybe even share an episode that you've loved with a friend. If you're watching this
00:53:24
episode on YouTube, please subscribe. We're on video now. Fly on the Wall is presented by Odyssey, an executive
00:53:31
produced by Dana Carvey and David Spade, Heather Santoro, and Greg Holtzman, Mattie Sprung Kaiser, and Leah Reese
00:53:38
Dennis of Odyssey. Our senior producer is Greg Holtzman, and the show is produced and edited by Phil Sweet Tech.
00:53:45
Booking by Cultivated Entertainment. Special thanks to Patrick Fogerty, Evan Cox, Mora Curran, Melissa Wester,
00:53:54
Hillary Shuff, Eric Donnelly, Colin Gainner, Shan Cherry, Kurt Courtourtney,
00:54:00
and Lauren Vieiraa. Reach out with us any questions be asked and answered on the show. You can email us at fly
00:54:07
onthealla.com. That's audacy.com.
