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If you don't park over the line, there's no joke. There's no joke. Jerry. Jerry.
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No. No show. I'm just a social mess. I don't. Like
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most things I say are uh It's not even offensive. It's just like h I'd rather
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not. Yeah. I mean, it's one of the biggest shows ever. And he's definitely one of
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the biggest shows in the world right now. If not like the biggest.
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I'm pretty friendly with him. I mean, I'm not going to say we're BFFs, but that's kind of cool, you know.
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Yeah, he's I'm kind of a fan. I see him on stuff and then I ran across him. We wound up
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doing a commercial during co right before co. So, I I definitely got to see if he remembers that. And we all mostly know
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him from Flea Bag and Stranger Things. Of course, that's Smash. One of the biggest hits in the world.
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Yeah. Stranger Things. He's been on the last four seasons and I think the new
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seasons coming out this fall. Yeah. So, we'll we'll ask him. So, we got a lot of stuff with him. He's
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a super cool, chill dude, and uh I make fun of him a little bit, but um I always
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do when I see him, but he's a real good guy, good sport. He's on Tik Tok a lot and surprisingly
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uh does some really like I don't know if it's out of character or in character stuff, but it's pretty interesting and
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he's got a lot of followers over there. That's going to be exciting. Yeah, he's a good dude and uh let's hear
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from him. Here he is. Bretty there.
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All right, our guest today is Brett Galman from Galman's Manise
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from Gal. Are you ready for this? Gilman's over there. He doesn't understand what I got to do.
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Gman Regious. I mean, I really But in all seriousness and through all that stress, I'm so uh
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I'm so excited to meet you, Dana, and see you, David, and be on here.
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You know, uh Dana, this is Brett, who's a you know,
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business acquaintance of mine. Yeah, we could say that, right?
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Absolutely. I mean, I think that like we were flirting with friendship.
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Yeah. And I I think we should go back to that. We could start over. Dane is too tough.
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But I am available for friendship. And Dane is far away. He's lives too far.
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I'm quasorophobic, antisocial, picked a weird career, but yeah. Do you
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ever go through that phase where like you meet someone at a club or whatever and you're really uh connecting? This is
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dude stuff, not women. And you're like, I take I'll take your number and then even text a few more times and go this
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guy's really funny and smart and we're having fun and then it just stops one day and then you don't it just that's
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it. Um Yeah. No, it happens all the time. You get That's what we did. Yeah.
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I think though like that that meeting point is real. Like I think you're excited
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and then I think life and like the insanity of our own brains or neurosis starts to take over
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and if it doesn't take that next step soon enough it can go in the toilet.
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It's more out of sight, out of mind. Like I think just logistically Brett and I did a uh I said Brent. That's another
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one you say Brent. That's all that happens to me all the time. That has to happen to you. That's a that's a give up name. That's
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the name where at a certain point I don't correct it. Yeah,
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[ __ ] it. We did, didn't we do a T-Mobile commercial or am I crazy? Yeah, we did a T-Mobile commercial
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uh right before the pandemic. [ __ ] co. I think we one of the last
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things I did that was still I think there was even whispers like are we still going to shoot this? Yeah. Yeah.
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Yeah. We did it. I think maybe February before March was the bad 2020 situation
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and it was Brett and I in God was we at the we were at the not the DMV no
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unemployment office. Yeah. And you were an unemployment
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uh agent and I was like in looking for jobs and then
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co happened. Right. So what I heard was so we do this commercial which was going to be on dur
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in the final four for March Madness and it was a big commercial maybe even 90 seconds not just a minute it was a long
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one and so Brad who I didn't know well or know at all I just knew of seeing him and stuff
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knew he was funny but then we had a blast so we do the commercial it's funny uh it it uh roughly I don't know if I
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saw Rough Cup but I like the director I like the whole thing about it I was T-Mobile it was all good And then they
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then co hit so they said we're going to push it because the final four I don't know if it's going to happen and they started
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canceling b anyway slowly eroding and then like a month later they go we're just going to hold it right now because
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America's not ready for comedy and I was like I don't know if this is Saturday Night Live it's a 90 second commercial
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but okay so then I heard they held it more and they said oh now we can't air it
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because we realize it's an unemployment setting and people are losing their jobs right now and not no one's working. And
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I'm like, "Okay, I didn't I didn't even get that part." I was like, "Oh, I guess it is." And then um and then later they
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they go, "We're going to air it." And it was aired as a 15-second Instagram commercial. Yeah.
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So, it was cut down to the nub. I mean, for a commercial, it was really good. We were funny together.
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I loved it. I mean, 15. We could have We We got every drop out of that 15 seconds. Is there any way we could find
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that and show it right now? I mean, we should because America, if you can, Greg. If not, don't worry about Here's my question. One is I could
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see you're on a set and you you see another person with a kindred spirit, comedian, funny, funny, funny, funny,
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funny. And then you're just being comedian, so being really honest, you know, I have diarrhea, whatever it is. And then do
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you kind of tell each other or wink at each other, what are you getting paid to
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do this commercial? Did you tell each other that? No, because I knew that David was probably getting paid way more
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than I was, and he probably knew that, too. Well, we don't bring up such things on
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sets. I didn't bring it up during grown-ups. That's for sure. Right. I was I was like, Adam, this is all Fed
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Nations, right? Right. Wait, do you bring that up, Dana, when you're on set? Do you find out what
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Oh, I don't know. I I'm, you know, it's almost like a taboo. It's like a word you shouldn't say, but like celebrity
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net worth is something I check once in a while. I don't take it seriously, but uh you know the monetary aspect of the
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magic of show business, the way people perceive it is kind of interesting and how it es and flows and where you were
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in 2020. You were you you'd broken through. You became a star. So I just thought maybe
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it'd be fairly close, but I can't tell. David would be the veteran in that scenario. That was the bummer is that
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Brett was doing great and he's very funny and we did a funny commercial and it's sad because I go he and I in a
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commercial this would have been a good one I thought. So it was I was sad to see it go. Sometimes I shoot stuff and it goes away
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and I go okay. It was just kind of work. No, but that was that was fun. Jody Hill directed it.
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Oh is that that's right. Like from you know the whole Danny McBride David Gordon Green crew you know
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uh co-creator of all those shows. Mhm. So, he was he was great, but he like also just like was very loose and cool
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and let us do our thing, too. And we had cool glasses on, too. I wanted to get those glasses. And uh uh
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these glasses. Well, we'll have to get the band back together. Not those. You look cool in glasses, though. You got a kind of a cool vibe going.
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Thanks. Thanks. Likewise. You know, I I work at it. It's uh it's one of the
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things I work at. Yeah, vibes are, you know, you can you can change your vibe. I had a
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you can make vibes better. You can change I had a shirt like that once, but then my mom got a job. But uh
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Jesus crowd work. That was from big. I won't say the label. It's like
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kind of a No, it's like it's a fancy label. Jason Kelsey, too. It's very It's very
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oversized, though. Yeah. Yeah. I don't mind it though. It's very tentlike.
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It's expensive. I think so. Very expensive. Very Now, I dumped so
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much money into this shirt. It was It was crazy. That was your big investment.
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It is an investment. No, you take out it. It It appreciates over time.
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I know right now, and this sounds like a weird thing, but they are doing uh I saw
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a guy on Listen, it's no [ __ ] It was on TikTok and he was taking out uh
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clothes on layaway, but really blingy, expensive, not necessities. He's like, "Check this [ __ ] out." And he had all
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this stuff, but clothes on layaway. It's been a while since I've heard that. I could see if you're stuck, but this guy
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wasn't stuck. He's just like, "I'm going to blow this [ __ ] up with this outfit." I thought, "Whoa, now you're getting in
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debt with clothes. That's tough." That is tough. No, I mean, not the right call, I don't think. No,
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that's like an added. There's always that when you buy some an expensive article of clothing,
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there's always that stress that I don't think ever leaves you where you're like, "Oh man, did I just like is this just so
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stupid and irresponsible that I just just bought this this article of clothing?"
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But that added stress of putting that on layaway. Yeah. The thing about clothes, I have I
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have obviously nice clothing. obviously day in a house and we and if I get so excited let's say about a shirt, let's
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just say a shirt then or 300 shirt and I'm and I'm I you know I bring it
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home and I keep it on a hanger and I'm all excited. I'm not going to wear it here. I'll wear it here. Do all that rig and roll. Then I find out like a year
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and a half later I'm in a clothing store trying on a new shirt I like and the one I liked is stuffed on the floor going I'm like who gives a [ __ ] about this?
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Look at this new shirt. And I'm like, "Oh, this is the same feeling I had about that one, but now that one's run
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through the ringer and and we've lost something. We've lost some of the love for it." Yeah. You got to get rid of stuff.
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You got to get rid of stuff. You got to clean out the closet. I mean, you know, of course, you have those choice
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things that you keep forever, but then certain things you got to be like once you start seeing it as it's too much
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through the ringer, you know, you got to get rid of it or it'll when you lose your love. I do agree with
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that woman that holds it up and goes, "You still, what does this she say?" She goes, "Spark joy."
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She holds it up. Does this spark joy? And you feel it and you go, "I really like this. Good memories. Keep it." This one dead air. Nope. Out.
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This is nothing. I'm holding on to this. Clothes are like people like you can have an unneeded obligation
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with an article of clothing that is being microcorive to your to your psyche.
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Absolutely. Heavy heavy duty. I think about this way too much.
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Yeah. I'm going to think about it from now on. Yeah. Just just because you can afford it doesn't mean you should have it. I once
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bought a jacket I think at Barney's for $1,000 and I could have got the same
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thing at Target for $88. I mean, literally the same. And for years I referred to it as the
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$1,000 jacket. I felt ashamed of it. I eventually threw it out in anger. But there is kind of a disease when you
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first get a little extra money. And I would ask you, you're uh you kind of buy did you have a very silly purchase? Did
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you get a Porsche? Did you what? Did you have any when you first got extra extra?
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I No, I don't think so. I'm always afraid that everything is a silly purchase, you
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know? That's smart. I definitely have like I definitely have again like splurged on clothing where
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I'm just like, "Oo, that's not good." One one silly purchase was I found out
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it wasn't like a purchase. this guy that I knew, he had a GoFundMe
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and and it was for his dog and what I
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thought it said was is like my dog needs surgery or it's going to die. I thought
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it was like the dog needs surgery. So, oh, I'm going to put a, you know,
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a I had just gotten a big paycheck, I think. I'm like, I'm gonna put a good amount of money into this dog surgery to
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save this dog. I love dogs. But then after I found out
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the dog had already had surgery and I would he just needed money
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because he had paid for his dog surgery. Oh, I see. Which is a completely different thing.
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Yeah. And this guy wasn't that good of a friend. Now I might even consider him
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an enemy in a way. I uh like I really don't like him anymore. It's heading that way.
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Yeah. You know what he should have put? He should have called it a GoFundMe and then you just I just want to have fun.
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Yeah. But I think that's great. Yeah. No, I mean that's that's like a curb your
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enthusiasm episode. Yeah. It really is. The dog was already fine. The dog was
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appealed. He took my money. If it was a curb episode, I'd go up to him. I'd be like,
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"Hey, uh, what are you doing?" Like, "Yeah, I thought your dog needed the surgery. I
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thought your dog needed the surgery." Right. Your money back. I'd ask for the money
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back. Pay back. And he would go, "I got the surgery. So, it's your money. I put it in the surgery. So, I'm filling
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that hole back. So, it's basically the surgery money." And then, and then the guy would be mad. The guy
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would be mad that you're asking for it back. What do you want the money back for? You know, right?
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That's my best Larry Dave. And then and then No, I I love it.
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So Dana, I'm a um 5h hour energy guy. I golf, too. So Mhm. There's a uh five-hour energy golf
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unofficial cocktail. They call it transfusion, right? And uh it's got like grape, lime, and ginger.
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It's got caffeine. Probably as much as a premium cup of coffee, but no sugar. I
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don't like sugar. I I try not to eat sugar. Sugar makes you go up and then you go. So you want to keep even. That's what
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makes you go beep. Then it makes you go bop. Then makes you go.
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It makes you go. So I stay away from sugar is our point.
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But that's not 5hour energy transfusion has. Yeah. They're little too. You can carry
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them around. Mhm. You know, you go to you can either go to fivehourenergy.com with the number fivehourenery.com, but
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I get them. They sell them a lot of places. You can always just grab them. And it's got a lot of B vitamins.
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Yeah. Amino acids, nutrients, uh, you know, keep you alert and energized because I've been around you where like we're
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out to dinner or lunch and it's one one o'clock here and here you get your entree and this is you.
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Oh, no. I I look at you and I'm like, "This guy has no amino acids in his
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body." I can tell. I look at you and this is like this I just in my head I see this guy.
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Let me see. I got to look at you again. Okay. Did I take five hour energy?
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Yeah, this guy needs some 500. This was you at the lunch. Don't do it again. Let me see. I have to
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cut back. Anyway, get your buddies tea off with some energy. Uh, 5H hour energy
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transfusion is available online or in stores. Head to www. Remember that?
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Mhm. 5hour energy.com to order yours today. Didn't you do Curb? What did you do on
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Curb? You did? I did a I did a I did a short thing on Curb where uh I was the pig parker and the
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whole bit it was a scene where I parked slightly over the line
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and he got really mad at me for that. But it was sort of like my experience on it was like kind of
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like a curb episode because at first he thought I was like a total [ __ ]
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Yeah. Because in the rehearsal I parked I it was a huge car. I couldn't see over the hood so I couldn't see the lines. So
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I park and I see him walking towards the car and he's shaking his head and I'm
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like, "Okay, here we go. Dream come true." You know, I'm like doing this with one of my heroes and
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and then he's like walking. She's like, "No, no, no, no, no, no. You see, you parked perfectly in the space." And I'm
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and I look and I'm like, "Oh, no." And and he's like, "See, the whole thing is
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you park a little outside of the space." Pig Parker. Yeah. And then that affects everybody else who
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parks and that's why I get mad at you. I'm like, "No, no, no. I promise I'm not stupid." No, you knew that. I like He restates
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the whole thing that you thought you didn't get at all. You thought you didn't get the joke. He thought because I didn't audition.
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So, you thought I was just some stupid annoying actor that um didn't understand
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comedy at all. It is exactly a curve episode for him to walk up. Then he's explaining the show to you and you're like, "No, I know. I
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just can't see. If you don't park over the line, there's no joke. There's no
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joke, Jerry. Jerry, no. No joke." And then I had this two then like after the first take, you
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know, I I mean he's laughing so you're immediately put at ease because you're like, "Oh my god, he's like he's loving
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it." And then we do like two takes. The second take goes even better and we're
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laughing together and I'm like, "Holy [ __ ] I'm sharing a laugh with him right now." And then he and then I'm like, "Oh
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my god, it's so crazy. It's like we're literally arguing about nothing." And I
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it's it's like nothing was written coming like a cartoon like coming out of
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my mouth and I was trying to grab it before it reached his ears
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because it was just like that's the stupidest cheesiest [ __ ] thing I could say right now.
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Yeah. And he looks at me he goes yeah stops laughing and he's like yeah it's pretty
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much the basis of my whole career. Yeah. Nothing. This wasn't clever. This was
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just nothing. That's why Larry, who's so sweet, we had him on this show and uh but he's kind of
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intimidating because his whole comic genius is seen through everybody and
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everything into the minutia of what's really happening. So, it kind of can get in your head a little bit sometimes.
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Absolutely. No, and my whole thing is is I am a person to constantly be seen
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through. I'm just like I'm just a social mess. I
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don't like most things I say are uh it's not even offensive. It's just like
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h I'd rather not. I feel like oh text regret is big. I mean text
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regret in the moment I'm sending it and then you look back and you go holy [ __ ] that comes off so terrible. Yeah.
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Oh text regret every single day. I hate it. I hate texting so much. I really I
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really do love talking on the phone. I texting gives me so much anxiety and I
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mostly text because people don't want to talk on the phone as we know. Uh you know Brett, have you ever gotten
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to the thing where you are texting? First of all, I can't spell that well so I do voice notes. If you're texting and
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you're going back and forth with someone, it's funny and you're just laughing and you spell two things wrong
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and you've got to go back and I'm like, I'm not as quick now because they think
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I'm thinking of this joke this whole time. And so I And then I see them starting to talk again. I'm like, "No,
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I'm just fixing the joke." And I send it, they're like, "Oh yeah, that's funny now, but it would have been funny 30
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seconds ago." Right. Right. It's terrible. Yeah. It's horrifying. It's too much stress. And the ghosty thing means
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they're reading your last text, right? So that's makes it more urgent. Holy [ __ ] That means they're starting to type. No,
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they're typing. Yeah. Well, that's the dots. The dots are [ __ ] on your ass. They're coming for you.
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I know. And they're so fast. Yeah. It's really not good for taking each other in and listening. I mean, I know
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this is a cliche thing to say. You know, it's been said millions of times for the last what, like 10 years, but like it's
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not good for communication. That's why like I love your voice notes. I think
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that's a better way. That's fun. Definitely. Yeah. Dana gets too much. He gets dilued with
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them. I got him on them now, too. I know. I missed them. I was getting them. It was Was I not replying enough?
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Was that the thing? No, you were good. I think I think our problem with our dating was you were
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geographically far from me and it was hard to coordinate a dinner or something
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in Los Angeles. Yeah. Okay. Well, I'll come to you. Let's Were you Echo Park or something?
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Yeah. And then it was also COVID, so it was like hard to
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I mean, I think you can tell I have medium to a lot of germs and I think
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that threw you a little bit. Um, maybe maybe you were like maybe
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giving. Brett, let me ask you this based on you you being feeling like you're a social
00:22:20
mess. Besides the tragedy of the of COVID, was there anything about the quietness of the pandemic that calmed
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your brain down? cuz just curious just what show business shut down, everything shut down and you just got to
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like at the in the beginning it was that thing of like you ever get like you know you get the flu or you get a really bad
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cold and there's almost like something that's a relief about it. You're like oh my god
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I don't have to do anything. I can just like it gives you the excuse to just
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[ __ ] no one expects anything either. Yeah, you're like, I can take this time. And
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that's what co was at times. At first, it was also like, oh, is the world
00:23:04
ending? This is terrifying. But um but at first it was like, okay, yeah, it was
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just me and my now wife and our dogs.
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And it was it was calming, but then it became isolating that. I mean, you say
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you're an agorophobe, Dana. Mhm. Is that Is that calming to you to be
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alone sometimes? Does it go between calming and isolating? No, I I just calming really. Uh there's
00:23:37
so much stimulus. Uh you know, World War II documentaries on YouTube. I mean, there's a lot of stuff that's really
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interesting. I watch calming. I I like that. But, um I I would just say I'm an introverted extrovert on some
00:23:50
scale. I don't wouldn't say it's dramatic, but when I go out there in a social situation, I lose energy after a
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time and want to get quiet and other people get energy from parties and things like that, you know, because I
00:24:03
when I do standup, it's so extroverted, so much energy that it it sort of makes me tired, but I do love it. So
00:24:10
yeah, I think when no when I'm extroverted and being really extroverted
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and it goes well like I do a performance or I have a day on set that goes well or even like I go to a party and I do
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social I have a good time. Then I I have more energy and I actually have to come down from it. I have to
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come down from it. That's true. Yeah. I have a lot of energy. I have an annoying amount of energy.
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When you're shooting and you're giving it 70%. Are you tired?
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Yes. Yes. Did you work with Schwarzen? What'd you do on pretend time? What'd you do there?
00:24:48
We'll get to your We'll get to your other stuff, Stranger Things. I know you're going, "Why aren't you asking me
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what the fans are begging for?" The season premiere of season five. The
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date is just it's all over the web. It's wild. It's wild.
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Stranger Things scared me. The show itself or like the idea? Yeah, I watched I was watching it the
00:25:12
first season and I was like, is this a scary show? I thought there was kids in it. I thought it was like ET or
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something. Yeah, I know. It's like in It's I my It is really scary. I mean, my mother took
00:25:24
a while to watch it and I was like, "No, you should watch She's like, "Is it scary though?" I was like, "It's not
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that scary. It's not that scary." And then like a couple days later, she called me
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at like 3:00 in the morning and like left a voicemail. I missed her call. And she's like, "Brett, it's 3:00 in the
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morning here. I'm watching the show. You said this was not that scary, Brett. This show is very scary, but I can't
00:25:53
stop watching it." She got It's well done. That's the thing. I mean, those kids like get the [ __ ] beat
00:25:59
out of them sometimes by demons. By demons. Yeah. A demon will just like boom to like a
00:26:07
little girl. It's like very intensely violent, but like I think it's got to be
00:26:13
in order to have integrity, I think. Have you ever met Millie Bobby Brown?
00:26:20
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I have. I don't know how sets work. I don't know how it works over there.
00:26:25
No. No. I I guess I guess I could have worked out where I didn't like I didn't I haven't
00:26:32
had like have I had I've had like not even like a scene with her necessarily.
00:26:37
Um but no, I've met Yeah, I know. And those three dudes or the four how
00:26:42
there's four dudes? Three dudes. There's four guys. Four main guys. I think I ran into them all at something
00:26:49
and they're all pretty cool. I like them. They're all really cool. Those kids do have their a good good heads on their
00:26:56
shoulders. Absolutely. Very tough. It's such a monster hit that it's probably you're at least somewhat
00:27:04
in the business for a while where you can kind of had highs and lows and you probably I'm guessing just appreciate
00:27:10
it. And it's harder to keep your feet on the ground when it's the first thing you do is like so big.
00:27:15
Yeah. I think like the it's always seems to me when I'm like talking to them is that they
00:27:21
they're either naturally that way or they've worked at making sure they stay
00:27:27
grounded and they have people around them that keep them ground and they like all the thing is like I think too it was
00:27:34
kind of like their school I think uh I know I'm speaking for them but I think they helped keep each other grounded
00:27:41
because they were in this you know. Yeah. They're all about the same age. are all kind of hanging out.
00:27:47
Yeah, the outside world is but you know to leave that I always compared like friends is like when your first thing
00:27:53
works so well it's really hard to have everything stay in balls in the air the
00:27:59
rest of your show biz, right? Yeah, absolutely. That' be Yeah, because
00:28:04
like for me the show's a real high after some other highs but mostly lows and
00:28:13
also we all have things that we loved that we really believed in and it meant
00:28:18
a lot to us that didn't do well. So you go through that too and you learn well not every and then we were all in
00:28:25
things that maybe did well that we didn't really dig that much. So, we've had like
00:28:32
that whole all those colors of experiences where we can stay right in that like
00:28:37
and to keep your confidence level just throughout it all like you're still good at it or you're still a good person.
00:28:43
It's just and people look at you differently and then they pay attention then they don't pay it's that's for
00:28:48
younger. I mean as an adult it's hard. So if you're younger
00:28:53
show and you're already dealing with like that type of [ __ ] as a kid or as a
00:28:59
teenager that's just so social enough. Yeah. Then you add on
00:29:05
how many followers you have, how many who's more famous on the set.
00:29:13
I mean it's sickening. I know it's tough. As Dana says it's rough out there. Well,
00:29:19
I just call it an emotionally violent sport. No, it's [ __ ] really rough. It's
00:29:26
really so true. It's crazy. We all do it. I I I I think I I didn't want to
00:29:33
interrupt. Sorry. But I mean, you did so much before this, you know, watch
00:29:38
researching, you know, with uh Adult Swim and Comedy Central and shows. you did something with Chris Elliott and all
00:29:44
this stuff and and you're you're doing well, but nothing is popping. And then you get
00:29:50
this thing which I guess is the biggest show by numbers or in in the last eight
00:29:56
years. No, absolutely. Yeah. I mean, it's one of the biggest shows ever and it's
00:30:04
definitely one of the biggest shows in the world right now, if not like the biggest. And no, you really It's pretty
00:30:11
tripped out. to like be in other countries and people
00:30:16
really know who you are and to also be like, "Oh, this is like kind of the equivalent of what Star Wars was, the
00:30:24
original Star Wars was." Yeah. You know, and what those actors were
00:30:30
seen as and that like you're seen as like a part of people's family in a way.
00:30:35
Like it's it's pretty wild. I mean, like it was this and like Flea Bag. Fleag
00:30:41
jumped you up there in the industry that made Flea Bag was a real industry one like
00:30:48
everyone's like yes like worshiped it awards bait yeah for sure
00:30:54
like that Emmys and Golden Globes it was like all all eyes on her all eyes on her
00:31:00
everybody no matter how big they were everybody was just like when you were sitting at the table or you're sitting
00:31:06
in the seats you could feel people everybody in the room watching her it It was wild.
00:31:11
Yeah. So after all this time in the show business, you got these one two huge
00:31:17
critically brilliant and then and then Stranger Things. So did you just absolute
00:31:25
gratitude? Were you I mean I I How do you process or are you angry about it? Are you angry? Why didn't people see how
00:31:32
brilliant I was 10 years ago? You Oh yeah, that's right. you know,
00:31:38
[ __ ] Stranger Thought
00:31:46
gratitude for it. Yeah. You know, Stranger Things is also looked at as sort of a very interesting I mean,
00:31:52
I think that gets a lot of praise, too, for being such a cool, you know, it's not like the flea bag type of show, but
00:31:58
it's just different lens. You see it and go, "Shit, they know what they're doing, you know?" Oh, yeah. No, I mean I think I think it
00:32:06
is artistically, you know, one of the best things I've
00:32:11
ever been a part of and one of the best things out. Uh yeah, I'm really proud to be a part of
00:32:18
it. Yeah. I mean, you know, if it was big and it was bad, I wouldn't I don't know if I would have the gratitude I
00:32:23
have. I think the the gratitude mostly comes from that I get to be on a really
00:32:29
awesome show and then on top of that it's those rare moments where the thing
00:32:34
that's really good is also really successful. Right. And it looks like you're having a
00:32:39
blast. I was looking at some clips just having a lot a lot of fun. It's really fun. It's like I mean
00:32:45
playing that character is really like a character I grew up loving, you know,
00:32:52
like watching like Danny DeVito and like Romancing the Stone.
00:32:57
That's a great one. I mean like just comedic the comedic relief in the in the
00:33:03
big action or sci-fi thing and and that he's kind of a prick and he's grouchy
00:33:08
and you know he's the he's the per you know the truths in a way but that nobody
00:33:14
likes or wants to be like and uh yeah I mean it's just like such a
00:33:20
kid fantasy of wanting to do this and that being one of the types of things I wanted to do. You do like a year, you
00:33:27
shoot for a while, and then it takes a while to come on and then people like woof it down and like in like three days
00:33:34
and then you go, "God damn, all that work." And it's like, "Oh, okay. What next?" I think they watch it like a lot of
00:33:40
times though. I think like the like rewatch it a lot. It's kind of interesting because good in
00:33:47
a way you have that break because people just go back and cram it over and over. No, it's wild. It's wild. I mean, like,
00:33:54
people are really like, "When's it coming?" Like, the fans are like pissed.
00:34:00
They're pissed. Like, they're like, "I need it. I need it." Yeah. And uh Well, I you know, I did this
00:34:07
show. They're going to get a little appetizer because and this sort I did this show
00:34:14
like I shot it like two and a half years ago and it was with the Flea Bag Producers
00:34:20
actually and we shot it in the UK. It's called Entitled and it's like this
00:34:26
really crazy gothic horror comedy show and Netflix just bought it and so it's
00:34:32
coming out. Oh, that's great. Untitled July 15. Untitled. Yeah. If someone said to you
00:34:39
the phrase, "When it rains, it pours." Would you relate to that?
00:34:45
No. Well, now you have Now you have another show. You got Flea Bank. He's He's out
00:34:51
of control. He's had enough strange things. I'm greedy. I'm greedy. I want more.
00:34:57
More. Will it go away or what? Is this the peak? Do you have agents and managers that go, "Listen, kid." Because they're
00:35:03
older than you. We got to We got to plan your next move. But you've already written and produced. You're already a
00:35:09
self-creative. You know how to do all that stuff entity. You're not just an actor for hire. You have this massive resume of
00:35:15
creating your own stuff. So you have leverage now, though. Leverage. They're going to be happy to see you in the room
00:35:21
or they have been for a while. I think I mean, hey, I hope so. It's like when you're in the vacuum in your
00:35:27
house and you're just like with your people all day, it's like hard to see yourself that way. you're like and
00:35:34
there's so many obstacles for everything that like it's easy to
00:35:40
like not notice the yeses. So it's like I'm constantly trying to get so many things moving because I don't know
00:35:47
what's going to hit. The most peaceful time is like when you're making the thing because then
00:35:52
it's almost like being sick. You're like this is all I can do for it to be good.
00:35:58
So, I'm just like on this thing and then but then when you're in the in between times and all these things are swarming
00:36:05
about, it's real weird. I mean, like I feel like certain rooms I can walk into and people are going to be like, "Yes,
00:36:11
oh my god, what do you got to do?" And then other rooms I'm going to walk into and people are going to be like,
00:36:17
"Who the [ __ ] are you?" Yeah. Who are you? I'd be curious to ask you this question. like now in 2025, the industry, AI, the
00:36:26
strike, the whole thing that went on and what what are this what is what are the streamers looking for? What are they
00:36:32
what are they trying to buy? Just the because I I'm not in that world. Is it evolved? Is it changed? How would you
00:36:38
describe it right now? I I don't know. I really don't know. I mean, like, you always hear all these
00:36:43
things that people are saying, but then you don't see the industry really change
00:36:50
all that much in terms of like what they're buying and what works. It always seems like what hits is like
00:36:58
Yeah. It's always off the beaten path. Then they go, "Now we go chase that. So, let's do a Stranger Things." And
00:37:04
you're like, "That's been done." And it came out of the blue. And then something pops up over here and they go, "No, that's what we should be
00:37:10
doing. Nobody wanted Stranger Things and like the Duffer brothers were like
00:37:16
you can't have the leads be kids and like all the all the stuff and then you know Netflix was young and
00:37:24
it was just like all these things lined up for it to become a massive hit in
00:37:30
that moment. And I think that's all you you never know. I pitched Kids and Monsters to Ted Serandos in 2014
00:37:38
and he just got real quiet and said, "Oh, we'll talk later." I never heard from him. And then I saw Stranger
00:37:44
Things. I went, "Huh?" No, because Dana added, he said, "It's a poorly written show about kids and
00:37:50
monsters and kids and monsters." But back then they wanted poorly written.
00:37:56
I was there chasing. I like when you you know you're doing well when your agent's like, "What do you want to do now? Did
00:38:02
you have you written anything? What's your dream, Brett? What do you want to do now?
00:38:07
Yeah. Drama. You're like a cross between David Cross and Paul Giami. So, we got Giam.
00:38:14
We You're gold kid. I'm telling you. I look better than those two though,
00:38:19
right? I mean, I'm I'm better, right? You're you're Well, yeah. I understand what you're
00:38:26
saying. I'm working on T-Mobile the movie. And
00:38:33
uh also like this thing you wrote movie. Yeah. I like when your mom calls you. She goes
00:38:39
3 in the morning. She goes Brent. Right. And you even let her say Brent. You're
00:38:44
like it's the first time that she's called me at 3 in the morning and not called me bread.
00:38:50
That was that was the one positive thing about that message. You know, other than
00:38:55
that, she was watching the show, of course. What did you do with uh Nick Schwarzson?
00:39:01
Because I know this is sort of a low light in your career. U Nick Schwartzson, who's a friend of ours.
00:39:07
I love that. What was you on pretend time with him? Yeah. I love that show. I love it. Yeah. Yeah. No, I mean that was one of those,
00:39:16
you know, like Nick was one of those people, you know, you got on that show and I was like, "Okay, I'm doing okay."
00:39:22
Yeah. Doing that. Did you know Nick before that? because I know him and uh he's like if I say I saw
00:39:27
he goes he's a really good friend of mine. I'm like all right that's enough. Right. I didn't know him like incredibly
00:39:33
well but like you know I would see him perform and stuff and I would I was like this guy's so funny and he was so nice.
00:39:41
I hate to say it. He's funny sweet nice guy. Yeah he's a sweetheart. It meant a lot that he put me on the
00:39:47
show. Yeah. All right Dana what do you want to what do you got for this guy? Anything else? This guy's been a good guy.
00:39:53
There's so the the resume is so big. I mean, too much of a resume. Eagle Heart with Chris Elliot who I
00:39:58
think is brilliant and Conan produced that I assume. How long did that go? That was 2011 to 2014. Three years or
00:40:06
something. It was like three seasons. I mean, you know, Chris, I think is one of the
00:40:11
funniest people of all time. Oh, for sure. And uh I mean, Chris made me tough, man.
00:40:16
I mean, Chris, he like Wow. It really felt like a lot of times that the show
00:40:23
that we were filming was the break and
00:40:28
that the actual show is what was happening uh in between the takes a lot of time. Oh. Oh. It was like crazy crazy elaborate bits
00:40:38
mostly of him uh telling me how terrible
00:40:43
I was and that like at times I was like I
00:40:48
think that this is a joke but even if it's not it's so funny. It's so funny
00:40:56
and uh I mean to like I mean the the genius of the guy I mean it really like
00:41:01
and then you know the guys who made that Jason Walner and Michael Coleman and uh and and and uh Andrew Weinberg they were
00:41:10
such fans of his and like knew his voice so well and it was like I mean it was you know they they idolized Get a Life
00:41:17
and they idolized all the Letterman bits. So, it was like taking that and putting it in this Walker Texas Ranger
00:41:25
type of world. That was uh completely insane. Completely insane. And I loved playing.
00:41:31
I mean, it was I learned a lot from working with him and watching him.
00:41:37
Yeah. Yeah. He is good. Well, I grew up watching him on Letterman and just thinking this is such an odd move. Like
00:41:42
if you don't know comedy and I was growing up going, is this real? Like it's kind of fun to
00:41:47
watch that stuff and then start to like it. No, I mean like some of the stuff he made he did like made like co Andy
00:41:55
Kaufman stuff looks I was going to bring up Andy Kaufman. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
00:42:00
I like him better than that. Yeah. He's what I he's what I call too funny.
00:42:05
Like sometimes you you you can't laugh, you laugh later.
00:42:10
Like he did a oneman show. Was he playing George Washington or something? FDR. FDR. Sorry. Yeah.
00:42:16
And that's the kind of thing you're watching it. It's like it's so [ __ ] funny that you have you're laughing
00:42:22
later. You can't It's like there's so many like there's like he he does something where it's like there's
00:42:29
four funny things h different funny things happening at the same time almost. It's so like nutrient dense that you're
00:42:38
like you're processing it. Nutrient dense. is so pointedly passive
00:42:44
aggressive about people self-right or self- congratulatory people doing one
00:42:50
man shows you know drippingly sarcastically aggressively
00:42:56
paring that no that was like yeah that's his like big thing is like he thinks show
00:43:02
business is stupid and selfimportant ridiculous
00:43:08
and it's like his whole thing is making fun of show business and it's like as
00:43:13
good of an actor as he is too, he's also he's doing great acting and then also
00:43:19
making fun of acting. Kind of against the system. Yeah. Yes.
00:43:25
True rebel. Yeah. The funniest. I mean really he There was one time where
00:43:31
it was this long bit. It was so hot and I was like in this table and my leg my
00:43:39
character's legs had been severed and they bu they built this apparatus and and they made me stay in the table and
00:43:45
it was too complicated to get out of the table and we're in this like [ __ ] warehouse in Santa Clarita where they're
00:43:54
like hosing in AC. It's not like meant to be filming in. Like I'm I'm already a
00:44:01
sweaty guy and I'm sweating so much. And then and then he comes up. He's like, "You
00:44:08
smell like duty." And he made like he had the whole crew.
00:44:14
He's like, "Everybody check out how much Brett smells like duty." And he had the whole crew and cast line up and smell
00:44:21
me. And then and I was laughing hysterically.
00:44:26
And then uh this was an important moment in our friendship, I think. And then I went into my trailer later that day and
00:44:33
he had taken underwear and drawn with a magic marker brown in the ass. And I
00:44:39
laughed so hard and it was like a test to see, are you going to like get upset about this? Are you going to think it's
00:44:46
funny? And because I thought it was funny, it made us get a lot closer. Well, he he sounds like a delight to
00:44:52
work with based on delight. a delight, but it was it was just like great.
00:44:59
It was a spengali kind of way to get you to relax. I think so. I mean, we we had already
00:45:07
been doing so many like hostile bits and and stuff like that that I think he knew that I would
00:45:14
think it was funny. Yeah. Does it sound like abusive? Does that sound like abuse? No, I've I've heard Stranger Things. Uh
00:45:21
but my point is this. I I had to take that. Um, it's a it's eccentric. It it
00:45:27
there's you'd have to be there. I'd have to be there in the moment to know if it was aggressive or funny.
00:45:33
Will decide. So, what you're saying is it's an it's a uncomfortable story.
00:45:40
Yeah. Right. Well, I've got some Mickey Rooney stories that we'll save for the next
00:45:45
time we have you on. Yes. But no, I' I've worked with Chris on SNL and and
00:45:51
Yeah, that that's him being funny. I don't I don't think Yeah, that's his sense of humor and he he knew that you
00:45:57
would think it was funny, too. Exactly. David, final final comment.
00:46:02
I just did something with Chris and he was very mellow the whole time. So,
00:46:08
I think he I think he didn't think I was funny enough to rub my underpants.
00:46:13
You think so? Uh, no. We weren't on the set long enough. We only did a day or two, but
00:46:19
definitely But if your your scenario was different, but he was perfectly fine.
00:46:24
He got my dress. I was hosting SNL and he got the church like get up during rehearsal. It wasn't even in the sketch.
00:46:30
He came, oh, hey, that's special. I'm the church [ __ ] How are you? And then
00:46:37
he threw a shoe at me. I said, Chris. And Lauren came in. Chris, please. Is
00:46:42
that just That's too far. All right. Thank you, Brent. I love that. Thank you, bud.
00:46:48
Oh, we're showing a quick photo before we leave. Oh, that's Look at that. Oh, wow. That is That's already funny.
00:46:55
The get up that you have on, Brett. It's funny already. Hot, too. I look really hot in that
00:47:02
picture. You You do look like you would be one of the YMCA guys. Like, you'd be another
00:47:08
character in that. Yeah. You know who I look like, Dana? if you could see me straight on Michael Douglas and Falling Down.
00:47:15
I have those kind of glasses on and uh but we just kind of [ __ ] around and it
00:47:20
was a lot of laughs. At least the whole shoot was fun. It was really fun. But thank you, boss. Uh appreciate you
00:47:26
talking to us. Pleasure. Thanks, Brad. No, so great being on here. And uh I got
00:47:32
to have you guys on my podcast sometime. What the hell is that? What's it called?
00:47:37
I do it with my wife. It's called Neurotica. Neurotica. Interesting. Yeah, my wife.
00:47:42
I'd be happy to I happy to come on. I have earbuds. I have a technical thing set up and I have an Echo set up in my room.
00:47:49
No, part of the thing on our thing is that it's technically uh a mess the whole time. We barely hear the Yeah, it
00:47:57
doesn't work. I think that's fine.
00:48:02
Okay. Well, he just took off. Dana, you guys chatted a little bit after and uh we did a little bit. Yeah.
00:48:10
That was interesting how you guys were almost best friends. That was an interesting moment.
00:48:16
Yeah, we're going to pick it up. We're going to pick it up again. Yeah, because we had a good run that day on
00:48:22
the shoot. The old T-Mobile commercial they can't stop talking about. Uh, which
00:48:27
they might bring back. And there's some whispers right now. Is it okay for me to say I would love to
00:48:33
see it? Is that Is that too much? I wonder if we get I don't know if we have a regular version of it, but we could
00:48:38
play it. Uh we'll we'll look into that. I'm sure it takes one Google search. I've noticed a pattern with some of our
00:48:45
guests that are doing very well in show business. A lot of a lot of uh a shucks, you know, sincere humility about it. So
00:48:52
yeah, that was that was kind of Brett in a way. I think that's people that he's like that anyway. And also he's
00:49:00
had the stuff that worked, didn't work, worked medium, worked a lot like everybody. So he's like on a big one and
00:49:07
it's pretty exciting. So I mean the most extreme in in my lifetime was Eddie Murphy essentially
00:49:15
right out of a high school senior. I guess he was 19 when he when he came out on SNL and it
00:49:21
just went 19. I mean, you made it at 20 20 and two months, and that was a
00:49:27
lifetime beyond Eddie. 20 and two. No, I was grinding out for free drinks doing standup. Yeah.
00:49:33
You got a cameo in a movie, and then you went back to the grind of of opening. I like when they go, we if you go on,
00:49:41
you get two free drinks, but even that feels like too much.
00:49:46
I don't remember working for alcohol. I honestly don't. Anyway, that's another story. Uh, this
00:49:52
is Brett and I'm glad you guys liked it. I hope you did and we'll see you next time. This was Brett and my name is officially
00:49:58
Brett and so we'll see you. We'll see you the next time on Super Fly in the
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