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Lake Bell (Always Better Than Lake Titicaca)

March 12, 2026 / 01:09:37

This episode features actress and director Lake Bell discussing her career, including her work in The Chair Company and voice acting in Secret Life of Pets. Topics include the challenges of show business, the importance of creative control, and her experiences with improvisation.

Lake Bell shares insights about her unique name and how it has impacted her career. She reflects on her upbringing in Manhattan and her journey in the entertainment industry, highlighting her roles in various films and television shows.

The conversation touches on the dynamics of working in voice acting, particularly with Dana Carvey, and the differences between recording sessions. Bell emphasizes the importance of collaboration and the creative process in filmmaking.

Additionally, the hosts discuss the significance of adapting to unexpected challenges in both parenting and directing, as well as the evolving landscape of comedy and storytelling.

Throughout the episode, Bell's humor and candidness shine through, making for an engaging discussion about her multifaceted career.

TL;DR

Lake Bell discusses her career, creative control, and experiences in voice acting and directing.

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Then there's uh Lake Superior. I always
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would retort with that when people threw
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me with Titty Kaka or ani tell us a
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little bit what it was like to work with
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Dana Carvey. You know, you're being by a
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thorn, you know, and you're like, okay,
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you know, and you're just like, what?
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>> Okay, I'll I'll I'll add some spice to
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that.
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>> Give us a couple different versions of
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that.
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So, Lake Bell, the lovely and talented
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Lake Bell, who uh Lake
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>> starring right now in The Chair Company
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with Tim Robinson, which is just an
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absurd,
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>> funny,
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>> brilliantly offkilter abstract.
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>> Right up my alley. Right up my alley.
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>> Yeah. And uh yeah, we we talk about her
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name. I mean, it it it is her name. It
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is kind of the coolest name you could
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have in show business when it's not made
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up. Lake Bell. You definitely need a
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hookie name that is a great
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>> short.
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>> Yeah, just
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>> four letters. Four letters. There's just
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something.
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>> It's like a movie jury duty, you know,
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just get like boom boom and it helps. Uh
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she's also been in It's complicated.
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She's in so many movies. She's sort of
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woven in where
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>> you just go, "Oh, right. She was in that
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one. She was No strings attached.
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There's old movies, new movies, um TV
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shows
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>> and a director." Oh, she was in Secret
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Life.
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>> Secret Life of Pets with Mwah. And uh we
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talk all about that.
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>> And she's uh what's interesting about
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her, I think, is um she's got a whole
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lane of getting hired to do things and
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then she's just producing andor
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directing things constantly. And that's
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>> uh by design and very smart. Then you
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can kind show business is less
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emotionally violent when you're just
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like doing your own work at the same
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time. Yeah, any anytime it's just
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waiting for the phone to ring is tough.
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That's the hardest part about show
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business. Um, anyway, here she is. Uh,
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lovely person. Lake Bell.
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>> Bell rang soon.
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>> Is that her?
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>> I am. Yeah, it's her.
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>> I don't have any idea what she looks
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like. Is that her?
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>> Oh my god.
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>> No one.
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>> She looks uh like Well, it looks
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gorgeous.
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>> An AI almost.
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>> Listen, I do what I can. I I can't
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believe this. I'm just so glad that this
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is working.
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>> I I am too. It's amazing.
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>> I know.
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>> Soon as I heard
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>> here, let me put this here.
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>> I feel like there might be a compliment
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coming. So, keep going.
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>> Oh,
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>> wait. Is this
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>> Do I need to have these on?
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>> Yes. Engineer.
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>> I think so. I know that you hate it.
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Everyone hates it, but I think it helps.
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doesn't look cute.
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>> We had this hockey player on and he
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didn't have him and we and we we
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couldn't talk over him because
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everything stopped. We have to wait for
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someone to talk, which you should do.
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>> The hockey player's name was Wayne
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Gretzky.
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>> All right.
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>> You know, I don't want
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>> I didn't even say that.
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>> I'm not trying to flex.
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>> I don't want to get
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>> I don't want to flex. I don't want to
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get handsy. I don't want to have these
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phrases exist. The latest one is slop. I
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hear it a lot. It's slop. Slop means
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just massive content that is just slop.
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It's just people love to watch slop.
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>> You know seven is done. Did you know?
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Did you hear about that?
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>> Who's done?
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>> 67.
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>> No. No. You know it's done. Oh, you
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didn't even Were you not aware of 67?
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>> I was, but I'm glad it's over.
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>> I heard I heard the two numbers. But
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what was it about again?
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>> He's heard of the two numbers. I heard
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the
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>> he's heard of
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>> when I was No, I remember something like
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67 was a code or something. What was it?
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I mean
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>> like it was like a meme or something and
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then somebody said it at a at a kind of
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sporting event of some sort because I
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also asked the question to my children
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and I have teenytiny children that are
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right in the 67.
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>> Do they know about it?
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>> They I hear about it all the damn time.
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It was a hot
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>> Christmas gift was a t-shirt that said
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6.
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>> Oh, no, no, no.
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>> But apparently the adult
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>> Thank god it's over. It's over, right?
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>> It's over.
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>> Okay. Uh I have Oh, I was going to say
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like because you're also a director. Do
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you feel
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>> Wait a minute. She's an author. People
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who don't know Lake Bell because I did
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kind of look you up a little bit. You
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know, preparation author, writer,
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director, actor, and voice actor.
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>> Yeah.
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Uh, am I missing anything?
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>> I mean, I'm a mother, which is my
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>> Oh,
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well, like as a director, is it too wide
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on me? I feel like it's showing too much
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of my whole body.
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>> I do feel that we're getting a lot of
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the wires in the backdrop. You could
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punch in. I'd like
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you over here.
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>> Yeah,
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>> I've never seen those in my life. And
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you saw them in one set. Let's come
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around if we can for a twoot and then
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just pan.
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>> Yeah, let's just cross cover. Cross
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>> and um so what what's your happiest
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place in your creative world is when
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you're writing your book
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>> start I guess we're doing it
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>> well no we don't we'll start and not
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start there's it's we don't really know
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what we're doing yet but is that kitchen
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real or is it like a backdrop
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>> my I'm in my office and it has a
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kitchenet so there's a
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>> somebody invested well
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>> the rich get rich
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>> whoops
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Can I have a
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>> never seen anything like this? Who lives
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there? Bezos.
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>> Okay. Well, listen.
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>> His muscles live in the other room and
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he lives in that.
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>> Guys, come on now. I The kitchenette is
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great for making
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>> If it has ETT on the end, that means
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it's not
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>> kitchenet makes me happy. The word makes
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me happy. If you're checking in kind of
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a B-level motel and there's that
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kitchenette just seems relaxing. Well, I
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feel I feel very relaxed and and welcome
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if there's a kitchenet. You're in a
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guest room has got a kitchenette. You're
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like, I've made it because
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>> Yeah,
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>> it really gives you that access point
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to, you know, the world is your oyster.
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You could make a you could make a tea.
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You could microwave a piece of toast.
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>> Yes. If I'm on the road, I go for
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residence in kitchenette. And then you
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don't really leave as much because you
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go, I can kind of handle [ __ ]
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>> Yeah. right here
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>> and you don't add advant Have you ever
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made an omelet in the kitchenette and
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just thought to yourself about the main
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>> These are viewer questions
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>> to about the main kitchen as you're
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flipping the omelet you know what
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>> [ __ ] the main kitchen
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>> the you know what's fun about that is
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that's where all the like funky mugs go.
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So, I've got like a very s I love mugs
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and I like a funky mug like you know a
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don't mess with Texas or like you know
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you go to like I have a a mug a dentist
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gave me a mug once with like a a big
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smile with braces on it like what a mug
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you know
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>> and it's like
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>> I like a good like you know it's like
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you travel somewhere and you get a mug
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and I
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>> Yeah. So all of the good funky mugs live
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in the kitchenette. The main kitchen,
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she's curated. She's got a real point of
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view. There's a visual,
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>> right? Is where the funk
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>> and you also don't want to mess up the
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main kitchen. So it's good to come do
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some dirty work in here.
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>> So I just want to make a quick note,
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right? Rap song called Funky Mug. Okay.
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>> Okay. Go.
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>> Well, mugs. I have a great old You know
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what my best mug is of all my goofy
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ones? Larry Sanders. It's all faded.
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>> I mean,
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>> why we got that? Must have been like a
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gift bag at the end. I don't know. I
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love it. I love it
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>> because Mark Marin, he he gives a mug.
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I'm just saying you guys
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>> Oh, smart. We don't have to give Jack.
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>> I I was on a show. I don't remember
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getting a mug.
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>> Oh, they just to special mug. No, no,
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no. Not a mug.
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>> You have to You have to You have a bone
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to pick then because those mugs are
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excellent. I And I I do ceramics. So,
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like I've got mugs.
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>> I've got mugs. ceramics on top of
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>> ceramics, too. And you write your
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automotive thing. I can't. Your resume
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made me tired. What are you doing?
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>> What were you do you take a nap every
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day? I mean, look,
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>> I do like actually.
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>> Oh, listen to this. Like, that's
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>> uh when I was going through your uh
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extenuous resume, is that a word? And um
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>> it is now
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>> golden arm. And guess who? Well, we
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don't name drop on the show. John Ham
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hit me out of the blue and I go, "John,
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I'm looking at your goddamn name on this
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stupid IMDb and he was so effusively
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positive about you."
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>> I am. Yeah, he's he's great. I think
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that is nice. That makes me feel good. I
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do think
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>> I'm generally like nice.
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>> Yeah.
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>> As a person. I mean, would you
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>> Yeah.
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I've seen you out and about and you're
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always very friendly and very light
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>> and I think I like the word agreeable.
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How is this person? They're they're
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agreeable, you know? They're they're
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easy.
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>> Yeah.
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>> Yeah. I would say that I would I would
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say
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>> and she's a laugher, I think, if I
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remember. You like
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>> Yeah, I can I will give a good laugh. I
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I feel
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like that is a a quality that especially
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within comedy, it's nice to have people
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around who also will give give it give a
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laugh.
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>> Right.
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>> Right.
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>> Yes.
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>> Yeah. Because if if if you're stiff and
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sometimes you just want to be the funny
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one, it's always nice when other funny
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people laugh.
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>> Yeah. Because you know when you're
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standing in like a a group of comedy
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people and everyone's
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each other
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>> and they're being really fun and they've
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got a little they've got a little um a
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little turned up side grin because
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they're thinking I'm going to say the
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next funny thing. I'm sharpen what I I'm
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gonna sharpen tool in my head. Oh, I'm
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listening to what he said. Okay, I'm
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gonna and everyone's thinking what am I
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gonna say next? you know, and
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>> it can be kind of like sweaty. I don't
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know. You know,
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>> I don't like group shows. I I I I do
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some dates with David. I don't like it's
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19 comics in a green room. What could go
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wrong? You know,
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>> it's like a comedy competition and I I
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don't like it. The guy who the
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>> man or woman on this podcast who laughed
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the hardest is kind of interesting. It
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was Larry David.
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>> I think I heard that episode. Yes, I was
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hearing that he was a great laugher and
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I thought I love Larry even more for
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that.
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>> I know he's so brilliant and then he
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sort of like he curled up on a little
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ball and he was redfaced and he fell out
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of his chair. Very interesting. But uh
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but our guest today is Lake B Lake Bell
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Lake.
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>> Has any ever met another lake person
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first name?
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>> Yeah. So it's interesting because when I
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was come when I was growing up it was so
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bizarre. I mean, people were like the
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amount
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>> they can't get their head around it.
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>> They could not they were like this is
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not okay with me.
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>> Whoa.
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>> What? You know, and I had a story I
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would tell people that my you know, my
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parents were hippies and I was on a lake
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and they thought, "Oh, let's do it."
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>> And that was not at all the truth. I'm
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from Manhattan. And my dad's like a Jew
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who belt the fish and my mom was like,
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you know, a kind of read war in peace
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while working at Sabes and was a model.
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You know,
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>> the bees.
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>> Yeah.
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>> Lake is a cool one, but you have cool
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names for your kids.
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>> Well, it's like a movie star name. And
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you know, I mean, it's it's very
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memorable. It's really tight. And the
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word the big L and the big B.
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>> It's just it has a lot going on.
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>> Four letters, four letters.
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>> Yeah. four letters, four letters, two
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nouns. And and then I think I saw it on
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a lot of like um signage when I was a
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kid. I always wanted to be an actor, but
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I was like, "Oh, it's already up there."
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So [ __ ] we're halfway there.
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>> It works. It works up there in the big
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time.
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>> Yeah. Lake Titty Kaka Lake, you know,
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that was
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>> Now we're talking Lake Balls of Plenty.
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Remember that one in Winnipeg?
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>> Oh god. Really? I don't
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>> Winnipeg. I just went off Titty Kaka.
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You're right.
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>> Yeah. Yeah. Tittaka. And um then there's
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uh Lake Superior. I always would retort
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with that when people threw me with
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titty kaka or an area.
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>> You know, the admin Fitzgerald took
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place on a lake, I think.
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>> Yeah. I mean, listen, lakes are of great
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import. They're much more robust than a
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pond.
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>> No one's named Puddle, is it?
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>> And they're rare in the western US
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>> as a
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>> You were called Puddle.
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>> Yeah. My stepfather used to call me
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Puddle because he's like, "One day maybe
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it'll grow into a lake."
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>> Oh, that's cute.
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>> That's cute.
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You know, David, um, you know, sometimes
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you want a little pickme up, right? Oh,
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yeah. Especially, right?
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>> But you also want something that
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actually tastes good. Do you know where
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I'm going?
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>> Yeah.
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>> Comment.
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>> You're going to talk about the new
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Fruity Rainbow Shop.
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>> That's exactly where I was going.
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>> That's right.
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>> Fruity Rainbow. What a great name and a
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great taste. It's a great name. Great
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taste.
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>> That was your nickname in high school.
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>> Yeah, that that's why I was captain of
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the football team. These things are
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straight up fruity candy vibes. They are
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bright, bold, and honestly kind of
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nostalgic, you know, but with a tasty
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caffeine kick that gets you moving.
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>> Mhm. which is kind of wild when you
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think about it, but the fruity rainbow
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candy flavored chaos in the best way
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it works, yeah,
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>> Should we talk about Secret Life of Pets
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and what happened?
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>> I mean,
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>> for a second, we just we worked on
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something together.
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>> Yes, it was f I mean,
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>> were you together?
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>> No, we never recorded together. This
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really blows it for people. I think
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people want to know that all the minions
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are friends and I think they want to
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know that all the people hang out
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because I did some and we did them in
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different days and I was like, "Oh, no.
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I kind of wanted to be together."
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>> Yeah. There's no there's no it's it's a
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lonely job in a way, but then you get
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thrown together in promotion. So you're
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recording these
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>> huge like either TV TV shows or or
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movies where they're these animate like
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larger than life characters and oh my
00:15:20
god the the rapport must have been
00:15:22
terrific ask you on the junket they say
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you know do was it so fun working
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together
00:15:27
>> you guys have a blast the chemistry
00:15:30
>> that's a perfect junket voice what you
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just did
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>> tell us a little bit what it was like to
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work with Dana Carvey
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>> yeah Dana must be non-stop laughing like
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well his booth was two doors down and
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four months after my
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>> I don't know.
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>> I know. One time on on Hotel
00:15:47
Transennsylvania, we did it. Oh, a
00:15:49
couple people remember. I heard some
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applause.
00:15:51
>> Um but we we did it all in the same
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room. And
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>> no, you didn't.
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>> They quickly found out it was a horrible
00:15:59
idea. We were doing like scenes and
00:16:02
we're all talking. It was Kevin James
00:16:03
and Adam. We're like blah blah blah
00:16:04
blah. And we're just going through like
00:16:06
scene after scene and then we go we'll
00:16:09
do some pickups and we did everything
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again by ourselves.
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>> Well, by the way, then it goes back to
00:16:13
the like green room. A bunch of
00:16:15
comedians in a green room. You don't you
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wouldn't want to record an an animated,
00:16:19
you know, show that way because
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everyone's sitting there going, we're so
00:16:26
>> Did you understand, David? Because when
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I was in the two, I wasn't quite sure
00:16:31
what my character was doing. Yeah, I
00:16:35
didn't connect it to any I would I
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didn't even understand. I just knew that
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was the line and they directed me, but I
00:16:41
you get kind of lost like what
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>> you just came out of a cave and you're
00:16:44
all wet.
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>> Yeah,
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>> that's what that's what it's like. And
00:16:47
then when we did that one uh Emperor's
00:16:49
New Groove, it it went three years I did
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it. And so at the end I'm like I don't
00:16:54
even know what's going. They go you can
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ad liib. I go I don't know what the
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scene is. I don't
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>> You're like you're falling down yell
00:17:00
scream. I like when they go right before
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you leave, let's get some ooze and o's.
00:17:04
>> That's the best.
00:17:05
>> Someone stepped on your tail.
00:17:08
>> The industry term is You ready? You
00:17:10
remember they're like, "Let's get some
00:17:12
efforts."
00:17:13
>> Oh, efforts. When you're falling down a
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hole,
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>> this is just for people. I I've probably
00:17:23
been spoke about before, but it's an
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interesting thing about doing voiceover
00:17:26
work. You're behind a glass. You're in a
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booth. You're seeing like 10 people in
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front of you and they're straightfaced
00:17:32
and very serious and you go all out with
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your take
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and there's a delay. So you're still
00:17:38
looking at an oil painting and then they
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then you see them like they're laughing
00:17:43
on Zoom from France.
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>> Just you can't hear them.
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>> They go silent laughing and and thumbs
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up
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>> and you like that one. They go one more
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and you go
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>> Yeah. It's so awkward.
00:17:56
>> I mean, I do I do uh Poison Ivy on
00:17:59
Harley Quinn for DC. It's like a
00:18:01
>> That's right.
00:18:02
>> Yeah. And they That is all kind of
00:18:05
improvis. Oh, look at him. He read um
00:18:08
the res. Oh, notes. Um
00:18:11
>> Oh, yeah. We got
00:18:12
>> if necessary. I didn't think we'd need
00:18:14
him much with you and it's working out
00:18:16
beautifully. So tell me about you're
00:18:18
that character on heart of
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>> Well, I just was going to say like in
00:18:21
there they really like the
00:18:22
improvisational
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>> vibes.
00:18:24
>> Oh, okay.
00:18:25
>> And of course you're alone. So you're
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>> sometimes I have the director read with
00:18:30
me just so that I can I don't know. You
00:18:32
know, it's like you don't know how to
00:18:34
improvise with nothing even though I've
00:18:37
gotten really good at it where you just
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are like I don't know. Can you give me
00:18:42
an idea of where we are? And they're
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like, "Okay, so you're in Gotham and
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it's kind of like
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>> funny."
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>> Kind of like a brothel, but like they're
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all made of plants and like you're being
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[ __ ] by a thorn, you know, and you're
00:18:57
like, "Okay." You know, and you're just
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like, "What? Okay, I'll I'll I'll add
00:19:03
some spice to that."
00:19:04
>> Give us a couple different versions of
00:19:05
that.
00:19:07
>> Yeah, that's great.
00:19:08
>> It's fun.
00:19:09
>> Look at your sleeves, though. What's
00:19:10
going on?
00:19:11
>> Yeah. So, we've got
00:19:12
>> that's a bit of a
00:19:13
>> like don't worry about it.
00:19:14
>> It's like
00:19:15
>> Plymouth Rock. I mean, sort of a
00:19:17
>> It's called fashion and I'm not
00:19:19
>> It's kind of a pilgrim village that's
00:19:21
trying to make friends with Native
00:19:23
American look.
00:19:25
>> I don't know. It works.
00:19:27
>> Finesse.
00:19:28
>> What color is it if you had to guess?
00:19:30
>> What color?
00:19:31
>> Yeah,
00:19:32
>> I think it's dark green.
00:19:34
>> It's actually dark. It's navy with
00:19:36
black, which is my favorite combo.
00:19:38
>> God, more proof I'm color blind.
00:19:39
Everyone navy with black is your
00:19:42
favorite color.
00:19:44
>> Yeah, I love the tension.
00:19:46
>> Don't hate my jean jacket.
00:19:48
>> I I like what you got going on here. I
00:19:50
love
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>> It's hard doing this, right? We're all
00:19:53
looking at ourselves. We're looking at
00:19:54
ourselves.
00:19:55
>> I don't like it. I'm gonna just How do I
00:19:58
go off my
00:19:59
>> It's impo possible not to
00:20:02
>> on Zoom I know how to just go and then I
00:20:04
get rid of my face and then the problem
00:20:06
is we're all actors. We're all looking
00:20:08
at oursel like what do I look at my
00:20:10
face? Do I
00:20:11
>> I'm only looking at me the whole time.
00:20:13
>> I know. I see you. I see you looking at
00:20:14
you.
00:20:15
>> I don't even know like on Spade has
00:20:17
never looked at me or you. I don't even
00:20:19
know what Dana looks like in real life.
00:20:20
>> He's not sure who our guest is today.
00:20:24
>> You've got a hair light. You've got a
00:20:26
backlight. That's
00:20:28
>> This is a new thing like that you should
00:20:30
incorporate into your movies you direct
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because
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>> Okay.
00:20:33
>> This was a happy accident. I like it. It
00:20:35
was a light behind me because it was so
00:20:36
black behind me and then it kind of
00:20:39
>> glows up the hair. So I said, "Hey,
00:20:41
>> they do that a lot with the ladies. They
00:20:44
do Yeah. Hair light they call it.
00:20:47
>> So that you do that. So it's just like a
00:20:48
little crest of like
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>> It's not bad.
00:20:51
>> Yeah, it's pretty. It's It's quite
00:20:53
elegant.
00:20:54
>> Is mine poured on a little hard back
00:20:56
there? But I don't know. Maybe it could
00:20:57
go down.
00:20:57
>> It's a It's a It's a It's a little
00:20:59
celestial. It's a little uh angelic, but
00:21:03
I I like it. It feels like they could
00:21:06
kind of fly away. I mean, there's a
00:21:08
sense that
00:21:10
>> they're Yeah, some of these these are
00:21:12
>> very French. I think it's very French.
00:21:15
>> It's a one-way street. Once they jump
00:21:16
out, they're not coming back.
00:21:18
>> Yeah. Can you go
00:21:21
>> I've got a bit of a mully going on?
00:21:23
>> Do you like Do you have a team? If you
00:21:25
go to an award show or something, do you
00:21:27
have a team?
00:21:28
>> Talk about it.
00:21:29
>> Oh,
00:21:29
>> you have a good team.
00:21:31
>> Oh, honeys. Girls, girls. I
00:21:34
>> Oh, please.
00:21:35
>> Girls, you have no idea what kind of
00:21:37
team I have. Um, one of the greatest
00:21:40
teams. Um, no, I do.
00:21:41
>> That's good hair though. You have to
00:21:43
>> I did I did my hair today. I'll be
00:21:45
honest for you. For you, gentlemen.
00:21:47
>> It's great.
00:21:48
>> Thank you. Um, but no, I do. I do a
00:21:51
team. But I have to be honest with you.
00:21:52
Going to when someone goes, "Hey, can do
00:21:55
like for instance, Golden Globes are
00:21:56
coming up and
00:21:56
>> Yeah.
00:21:57
>> Oh, you know, are you gonna go to the
00:21:58
thing on Friday or whatever?" you know,
00:22:00
and I the amount of of
00:22:07
just pomp and circumstance that I need
00:22:09
to go go through just to get to the
00:22:11
freaking party.
00:22:12
>> I'm like, I don't even know if I can
00:22:14
afford to go to that party cuz hair and
00:22:17
makeup, styling,
00:22:19
>> car, you know, cuz can't just you
00:22:22
gentlemen can throw on a key.
00:22:24
>> Sometimes you're like, who do I bring?
00:22:25
Is it all by myself?
00:22:28
>> I go alone a lot. I actually go alone. I
00:22:30
kind of been enjoying rolling up
00:22:33
>> because you run around so much. Usually
00:22:34
just go to someone for bass. You're like
00:22:37
both talking to people. You come back,
00:22:38
say hi. Hey, what's going on? Blah blah.
00:22:40
Then you go because you both know
00:22:41
different people. Yeah. But if you
00:22:42
don't, it feels weird sometimes to be
00:22:45
constantly in motion.
00:22:47
>> Yeah.
00:22:47
>> Hey. Hey. Hey, Lake Bill. Nice to see
00:22:50
you. What's up? You have 10 seconds to
00:22:52
make a connection.
00:22:54
>> Hey, Lake Bill. How you doing, man?
00:22:56
>> Everyone calls her Lake Bell. Hey. Hey.
00:22:58
Hey. It's M. Bell. How are you?
00:23:01
>> I have three seconds. What's up? Let's
00:23:03
have a profound moment.
00:23:05
>> I mean, I've seen, you know, I recently
00:23:07
went to a thing at like the Chateau or
00:23:09
something and I saw a fellow person who
00:23:11
was going through an an I have an early
00:23:13
problem. So, I get places a way too
00:23:15
early.
00:23:16
>> Good.
00:23:17
>> And like I was early for this podcast
00:23:19
and
00:23:19
>> Yeah. And I have um an exboyfriend who
00:23:25
actually told me that, you know, um who
00:23:27
was like, "You're too hot to to show up
00:23:29
this early. Like, you have to be very
00:23:31
late. You have to like get it's not
00:23:33
okay." And I thought that was very
00:23:34
sweet. But um
00:23:36
>> that is true. But I do like people that
00:23:38
just get things going because it's so
00:23:40
hard to be cool and wait. It's so hard.
00:23:42
>> I don't guys I'm just It's like I I
00:23:46
don't know what it is. I don't know if
00:23:48
it's like cuz I don't have ADHD cuz my
00:23:50
daughter does and my son does, but I
00:23:52
just can't. I get there way too early
00:23:54
because I'm nervous I'm going to be
00:23:55
late. So, it's probably peopleleasy, I
00:23:57
guess. I don't know.
00:23:58
>> Um, it could be tactical. Like, I like
00:24:00
to get there early
00:24:02
>> so that I can leave early and go, "Hey,
00:24:04
I was
00:24:06
You know what?
00:24:07
>> Yes.
00:24:08
>> Well, you can kind of see people come in
00:24:10
and it's not as overwhelming as walking
00:24:11
to a packed
00:24:12
>> [ __ ] place. sits bumper to bumper and
00:24:14
you're like, I can't even get to the
00:24:16
point where I can't get.
00:24:18
>> But I will say I like this this Golden
00:24:20
Globes thing because first of all, if
00:24:22
you go to a party for let's say it's the
00:24:24
Golden Globes. Now,
00:24:26
>> a party is almost as bad as an effort as
00:24:29
a look for going to the Golden Globes.
00:24:31
It's pretty much around the same budget,
00:24:34
around the same everything. Now, if you
00:24:36
go to a party, you have to think, am I
00:24:38
going to go to a party Friday, a party
00:24:39
Saturday, and Sunday after the show?
00:24:43
>> So, three looks for if for a female,
00:24:46
right?
00:24:46
>> Whoa.
00:24:47
>> Do you do your hair three times?
00:24:49
>> Yes.
00:24:50
>> Is there anything you save on the
00:24:53
>> There's no saving. Okay. The only thing
00:24:54
I would say is that I style myself right
00:24:57
now. So, that has been kind of because
00:25:00
it's like an art form, right? Like,
00:25:02
yeah,
00:25:03
>> I like I'm a visual person. I enjoy this
00:25:06
[ __ ] So, like, I'll give it a go.
00:25:08
>> And so, I buy the only
00:25:11
>> the only the only thing I I splurge on
00:25:14
is like I you know, I get [ __ ] that's um
00:25:17
secondhand. So, I like buying
00:25:19
consignment.
00:25:20
>> Oh, cool. Yeah.
00:25:21
>> And vintage. I just It's like fun. It's
00:25:24
like finding Yeah. in a you know it's
00:25:26
like I watch those guys with the metal
00:25:28
detectors who like look in dirt and find
00:25:31
things like I I can watch this
00:25:32
>> find your dress.
00:25:33
>> Yeah. So that's similar. It's scratching
00:25:36
a similar
00:25:38
>> inside baseball but I've not been I
00:25:40
don't go to a lot of war shows but the
00:25:42
last time I was at the Oscars Whoops. Um
00:25:46
you walk out in the red carpet just for
00:25:48
people listening and then you stand
00:25:50
there and then there's a wall of people
00:25:52
screaming. I mean, they're waiting for
00:25:53
Timothy Shalame or, you know, Jodie
00:25:56
Foster or something and there's this
00:25:58
wall of people screaming at you. Do you
00:26:01
pivot and kind of smile and they're
00:26:03
going like like screaming like just a
00:26:06
hoorde
00:26:07
>> and you pivot? Do you have a face that
00:26:09
you put on? Can we see it?
00:26:11
>> I do. I do this.
00:26:12
>> Okay, good. Okay, here it is.
00:26:14
>> Off. Earphones off.
00:26:15
>> Lake Bell. Here, here. Here.
00:26:18
>> I like this pleated pants outfit. Oh,
00:26:21
>> here. Over here. Over here.
00:26:23
>> This part. You're not supposed to see
00:26:24
this part.
00:26:24
>> Are those purple? I'm not even going to
00:26:26
guess.
00:26:26
>> No. No. The They're They're another
00:26:28
shade of of blue.
00:26:31
>> You know what's cool about you is that
00:26:33
you don't you don't you you don't you're
00:26:35
not sweaty. You don't seem to try. You
00:26:37
don't seem to care about being a star.
00:26:39
>> I mean, you you're one of those
00:26:41
celebrities that just sort of there's a
00:26:43
coolness factor to that. You're not
00:26:45
needy, are you? I mean,
00:26:46
>> I'm not thirsty.
00:26:47
>> I just want to make I think I'm like a
00:26:50
working actor. Like I feel it like you
00:26:52
know what I mean? Like I don't I go on
00:26:53
the subway like I go to the grocery
00:26:55
store. So I don't feel
00:26:55
>> that's what how how I see you and also
00:26:57
you ride and direct and do all the other
00:26:58
things but a lot of people live or die
00:27:01
by this how their heat as a celebrity.
00:27:04
It's like a really huge deal. You don't
00:27:06
seem to
00:27:08
>> doesn't bother you.
00:27:09
>> It doesn't. And also I have two little
00:27:11
kids right? So
00:27:12
>> yeah,
00:27:12
>> a mom and I to boot I have kids that
00:27:17
have had
00:27:19
>> some heavy [ __ ] happen.
00:27:20
>> We we know about your book and I thought
00:27:23
it was I read some of the the quotes and
00:27:25
they they teared me up. I mean it's like
00:27:28
the way you couched
00:27:30
seizures was so beautiful. I mean you're
00:27:33
a great writer.
00:27:35
>> Thank you. I I think that the context of
00:27:38
that has always,
00:27:40
>> you know,
00:27:41
>> yeah,
00:27:41
>> I've had kids now for 10 years, so it's
00:27:43
like all of it, even when I'm directing
00:27:45
and they're like, "We lost a location.
00:27:48
Oh my god, we're freaking out. You know,
00:27:50
it's going to, you know, everyone's the
00:27:53
actor is going to be so upset. We can't
00:27:56
Oh my god, I don't know what to say."
00:27:57
And I'm just like,
00:27:59
>> "This is a cool job.
00:28:02
Like I've seen I've held my my ch both
00:28:06
of my children in different states of
00:28:08
>> are they dying or not, you know?
00:28:11
>> And so I think contextually I'm like
00:28:13
we're going to find another location.
00:28:14
>> Yeah, we're going to be fine.
00:28:16
>> It's a movie. You know,
00:28:18
>> it does put it in perspective when you
00:28:20
go there are a lot worse problems right
00:28:22
now. I wish everyone wouldn't freak out
00:28:23
so hard because we're wasting freak out.
00:28:26
>> Also, for all the time that we just
00:28:27
freaked out about that, we could have
00:28:28
been like, you know, like let's see
00:28:30
what's across the street. Let's see. Can
00:28:32
we talk to Let's talk.
00:28:33
>> And it's funny. They always figure it
00:28:34
out.
00:28:35
>> They all You always figure it out. So
00:28:37
I'm like,
00:28:37
>> you see the movie, you don't see a
00:28:38
[ __ ] blip.
00:28:39
>> No. And frankly, just if we're talking
00:28:42
inside baseball about directing for a
00:28:44
second, it's like often times there are
00:28:47
moments where, okay, you did lose that
00:28:48
location and then
00:28:50
>> whatever for or like we have to reshoot
00:28:52
this scene because of blah blah blah,
00:28:54
and you're going, "Oh my god, I I can't
00:28:56
think of a worse piece of information
00:28:58
for my editor right now." But whatever
00:28:59
it is, it always ends up kind of exactly
00:29:02
as it should be. It's it's always great,
00:29:05
you know, especially when you have to
00:29:06
revisit something
00:29:08
>> or you get a new location and then
00:29:11
>> you just make it work and then no one's
00:29:12
the wiser that sees the movie and they
00:29:14
go, I don't really care about that
00:29:15
stuff. Is is the movie working?
00:29:17
>> But also in life, like now with
00:29:19
parenting and [ __ ] like that, you're
00:29:20
just like, well, you know, a lot of the
00:29:22
times we come up against moments where
00:29:26
it's not as you planned. it's not how
00:29:29
you thought it was going to be. This
00:29:30
person kind of did this and you you
00:29:32
thought they were going to do that. All
00:29:33
of those expectations
00:29:35
>> are what get in the way of it. If you
00:29:36
could just kind of
00:29:38
>> sort of
00:29:39
>> adapt and adjust. I mean, that's the
00:29:41
that's what I'm always trying to, you
00:29:43
know, sort of teach to my children too.
00:29:45
The adapt is such a
00:29:46
>> roll with stuff. Okay, now we'll deal
00:29:49
with this and then this and really think
00:29:51
of life as a kind of a series of
00:29:53
problems in a sense. You know,
00:29:55
>> it's hard to watch kids get so much
00:29:56
anxiety also because you go, "God, this
00:29:59
is the your worst thing and it's really
00:30:01
nothing in the big picture." But to this
00:30:03
point in your life, like high school
00:30:04
especially, is very hard.
00:30:05
>> Yes.
00:30:06
>> And you go, "Fuck, I wish I could talk
00:30:07
you down and just to say
00:30:09
>> you won't really remember almost any of
00:30:11
this problems. Young
00:30:14
people are nostalgic for the analog
00:30:16
world. I I hear this a lot." And they'll
00:30:19
watch Grey's Anatomy like crazy because
00:30:21
they don't have iPhones. They don't have
00:30:24
Instagram. They don't have So, the
00:30:25
toxicity of that and now you raising
00:30:27
your young people through this is a
00:30:30
whole other set of challenges.
00:30:32
>> I have a It's funny. I went and got um
00:30:34
just talking about nostalgia. So, I
00:30:36
don't know if you guys go to Vidiots,
00:30:37
which is a really cool art house theater
00:30:39
in Los Angeles
00:30:40
>> and um also a nonprofit that does
00:30:44
>> um that kind of preserves DVDs and VHS
00:30:48
tapes. Mhm.
00:30:49
>> Um, I go and take my kids to go rent
00:30:53
DVDs and
00:30:55
>> Oh, cool.
00:30:56
>> of I then bought myself, you know, for
00:30:58
the house a little combo, a TV and DVD.
00:31:03
>> DVD player. Oh, wow. Okay.
00:31:05
>> Right. You plug it right in. You see
00:31:06
this is the device it's on. It goes
00:31:08
right.
00:31:09
>> I thought those are already gone. It's
00:31:10
crazy.
00:31:12
>> Yeah. And the idea of not scrolling.
00:31:14
What are we going to watch? I don't
00:31:15
know. I've already seen that.
00:31:16
>> Like this is it. This is what we're
00:31:18
watching.
00:31:19
>> We just rented it. We're putting it in.
00:31:21
And then
00:31:22
>> choice
00:31:22
>> called Deborah. Um, and so I'm like, you
00:31:25
have to be very delicate with Deborah.
00:31:27
>> And so you press the button on. You
00:31:29
wait.
00:31:31
>> Okay. Now wait. Now press eject and
00:31:35
wait. You know,
00:31:37
>> there's a lot of waiting. Put it in.
00:31:40
>> Press it. You know, it's like everything
00:31:42
is so consist.
00:31:44
>> Don't push it. It kind of pulls it from
00:31:45
your hand. And if you go really lightly,
00:31:47
it kind of sucks it in.
00:31:48
>> I think it's
00:31:50
>> it's great. We at one point only had a
00:31:51
Blu-ray player when we moved up to this
00:31:53
house and uh and we just quickly bought
00:31:56
10 Blu-rays and so I guess we're going
00:31:58
to watch The Godfather and and then
00:32:00
you're you're committed to the movie and
00:32:02
it really is when you're on live
00:32:04
streaming and watching all these shows,
00:32:05
you're like,
00:32:06
>> I don't know. You feeling this? Okay.
00:32:08
And then boom, you're gone.
00:32:10
>> You're out. Yeah. It's What is that? It
00:32:12
is actually feeding our short attention
00:32:15
span and it's just like
00:32:17
>> yes
00:32:17
>> I feel like it's like it's it's actually
00:32:20
flexing and and it's flexing a muscle
00:32:23
that we shouldn't
00:32:25
>> which is to just bail you know. Yeah.
00:32:28
Talk about adaptation and being
00:32:30
adaptive. It's like
00:32:31
>> let's talk about the chair company. A
00:32:32
perfect uh
00:32:35
>> introduction to that which my wife and I
00:32:37
watched the first two episodes last
00:32:39
night.
00:32:40
>> Oh, you did? She and she did not have to
00:32:42
watch the second episode unless she
00:32:44
wanted to.
00:32:45
>> And so we both fell in love with it.
00:32:47
It's so the reason we loved it and it
00:32:50
didn't make us wander is because it it's
00:32:52
full of so many surprises. It's Tim
00:32:54
Robinson in full quirk
00:32:56
>> and you and others and so it keeps going
00:32:59
places you don't expect.
00:33:01
>> So I think it's great and it's been
00:33:03
picked up for season two I heard.
00:33:05
>> So you're in a hit. Um, I will say that,
00:33:09
um, I'm not really in the first
00:33:12
episodes. I'm kind of like, you know, it
00:33:13
all unfurs. So,
00:33:15
>> that's what I shut up, Barb.
00:33:19
>> Exactly.
00:33:19
>> Yeah. He yells up the stairs like, "Oh
00:33:21
my god." Yeah.
00:33:23
>> Shut up, Barb. You know,
00:33:24
>> he's so bananas. Everyone acts like it's
00:33:27
normal. Okay, cool.
00:33:28
>> Yeah. That's the thing is I think being
00:33:31
a straight man, you know, straight woman
00:33:34
to his really just chaotic, wonderful,
00:33:38
misanthropic, koginly tornado of a
00:33:42
character.
00:33:43
>> So stressed at all.
00:33:44
>> So stressed and
00:33:47
like shooting with him. He's not like
00:33:49
that at all. I don't know if you know
00:33:51
him personally.
00:33:51
>> I don't know him at all.
00:33:53
>> Assume he's I assume he's not.
00:33:55
>> No, but you never know. He was on SNL
00:33:58
for a while and wrote
00:33:59
>> it's funny classically did not use him
00:34:01
right or something because look at all
00:34:03
the [ __ ] he's done. It's so
00:34:05
>> but the people's reaction to his
00:34:07
character and you being one of them is
00:34:08
you know the laugh is often on someone
00:34:11
processing madness that we don't get a
00:34:13
chance to as just viewers from home you
00:34:15
know like so you've you know I can see
00:34:17
how it's I don't know where it's going
00:34:19
but you know I'm going to
00:34:21
>> I'm so excited you know for you to to
00:34:25
unfurl the other ones that the fact that
00:34:28
you're on number two. Have you seen any
00:34:29
of
00:34:30
>> I finished number two.
00:34:31
>> You finished number two. Okay. It gets
00:34:34
it's goes not where you think ever. And
00:34:37
I think what I love about the show and
00:34:39
being a part of it is that it is unique
00:34:41
in its tone.
00:34:42
>> Yes. And it surprises you. There's a
00:34:44
piece in there which doesn't give away
00:34:46
the plot or anything where he's driving
00:34:48
with somebody and he does a satire
00:34:52
basically about live streaming or just
00:34:55
non-performative
00:34:57
people who make millions of dollars or
00:34:58
something. It's sort of X-rated rapping,
00:35:01
but it wasn't rapping. and they're just
00:35:02
talking. You know the moment I'm talking
00:35:04
about like that was really surprising.
00:35:06
It was just a great moment to put that
00:35:09
in there and it was just really laugh
00:35:11
out loud funny
00:35:12
>> the way the guy
00:35:14
>> Yeah. It's also like the the the camera
00:35:17
work is so excellent. Um Ashley
00:35:20
>> um the DP like has such a well also I
00:35:24
give credit to Andy D. young as well,
00:35:25
just the director who did Friendship.
00:35:28
Um, if people have seen that um
00:35:30
>> and it has such a um sometimes almost
00:35:34
like Lynchian like you'll see it's like
00:35:36
it gets
00:35:36
>> David Lynch is brought up Mohalland
00:35:39
Drive for some of the Reddit people
00:35:40
talking about it.
00:35:42
>> Yeah. Quirky quirky.
00:35:43
>> Yeah. And when you I don't know if it's
00:35:44
up for best comedy, but when you see a
00:35:46
comedy that you actually laugh at, which
00:35:48
is honestly rare.
00:35:50
>> Yeah. Well, we're all snobs, but when
00:35:53
you laugh because it's not predictable
00:35:55
and you're and there's something out of
00:35:57
the blue, you throw away lines right and
00:35:59
left where you're like,
00:36:00
>> "Oh my god,
00:36:01
>> these kids were getting drunk with their
00:36:03
teacher at the and you're like, what
00:36:04
their teacher?" Like they just throw
00:36:06
away stuff that's just so weird and and
00:36:07
no one mentions it. You go,
00:36:09
>> right? And it's tiny little throwaways
00:36:10
that you're like on my birthday, you
00:36:14
know, like like that was a per that's a
00:36:16
perfect example of like
00:36:18
>> what makes there's no reason what a
00:36:22
random laugh and then everyone just
00:36:23
keeps going and you go
00:36:24
>> because I I've worked with um uh HBO
00:36:29
before and I've obviously done a ton of
00:36:31
comedies and that usually I feel like
00:36:32
the the the
00:36:34
flavor and the general kind of movement
00:36:39
of the
00:36:41
>> uh music is like clean, keep it clean
00:36:44
and then bring it on back and then oh
00:36:46
you flood that line go again you know
00:36:48
it's like faster you know cleaner
00:36:50
tighter
00:36:51
>> and with this
00:36:54
>> I really felt like I was in a different
00:36:57
sheet of music like I I I I was not
00:37:01
Yeah, it was a different it was like
00:37:03
jazz riffing because there were moments
00:37:06
where you know he might flub and I was
00:37:09
like, "Oh, I see they they're gonna use
00:37:12
that take."
00:37:12
>> Yeah, they'll keep it because it's real.
00:37:14
>> Yeah. Because it felt And so the kind of
00:37:16
awkward the tension of that
00:37:19
>> and long pauses and weird things where
00:37:22
normally they go, "Can you just tighten
00:37:23
that up? We'll just got to keep it
00:37:24
moving." And you're like, "No,
00:37:28
>> looks like that. It's just
00:37:29
>> you could strangle that comedy in a
00:37:31
second with a different director. You
00:37:33
completely beat the [ __ ] out of it." And
00:37:36
so I I'm I'm envious because I I don't
00:37:38
think I've ever been in that situation,
00:37:39
but I know what you mean. And I think
00:37:41
that the the genius of Marlon Brando,
00:37:44
what a weird reference, is he tried he
00:37:46
tried to get it ad hoc. He tried
00:37:48
discover in the moment. He didn't want
00:37:50
to be locked in. He wanted to he'd have
00:37:52
it on a orange or he peel it and get his
00:37:54
line, whatever to deconstruct the idea
00:37:56
of it. And then obviously when you're
00:37:58
doing takes and you're discovering it
00:38:00
real time like you like are going
00:38:03
>> this is real for me right now. This is
00:38:05
not like I rehearsed it.
00:38:07
>> It does pop and I can feel that. That's
00:38:09
what I'm feeling when I'm watching the
00:38:11
show I guess.
00:38:11
>> Yeah. We don't rehearse at all. So only
00:38:13
if there was a stunt or something you
00:38:15
know with but but even I mean we'll
00:38:18
rehearse the stunt but we'll never
00:38:19
rehearse the lines like before you know
00:38:22
>> Clint Eastwood
00:38:23
>> or Woody Allen really you know.
00:38:25
>> Yeah. You just you'll be in the moment
00:38:26
and you'll say it for the first time
00:38:28
then and
00:38:29
>> and it makes people good because even on
00:38:31
those Clint Eastwood movies they say
00:38:32
when I come to the set you know I've had
00:38:34
guys that do 15 20 takes so you're
00:38:37
basically almost carrying your many
00:38:38
sides to the real shooting going well I
00:38:41
know we're not using the first eight
00:38:42
>> I know
00:38:43
>> and which is such a bummer because in
00:38:44
comedy you're like sometimes things just
00:38:47
happen and now I've got to recreate them
00:38:48
because of continuity and I'm like
00:38:50
>> if you can just get rehearsal even it's
00:38:52
half the time it's the funniest cuz
00:38:53
that's the first time it's real back and
00:38:55
forth.
00:38:56
>> Yeah.
00:38:56
>> Shoot the rehearsal. I was in a movie
00:38:58
once. Yeah. Always shoot the rehearsal,
00:39:00
right? So,
00:39:01
>> don't even tell them. It's just on
00:39:03
>> for you as a director and then you're
00:39:04
seeing this style or maybe you've seen
00:39:06
it before. Does it influence you? Do you
00:39:09
try to emulate it or do you do it
00:39:10
yourself? Anyway,
00:39:11
>> I'm really interested. I mean, I learned
00:39:12
how to direct by being in the [ __ ]
00:39:15
trenches of a
00:39:17
>> trillion different sets and
00:39:19
>> yeah,
00:39:19
>> how people are are operating, but not
00:39:22
just within, you know, the within the
00:39:26
director's brain, but, you know, how
00:39:27
they're relating to the rest of the
00:39:28
departments, you know, and how actors
00:39:31
are feeling, you know, with different
00:39:32
things. Oh, that performance I like I
00:39:34
can tell the way that act the way that
00:39:36
director just spoke to this actor really
00:39:39
got that great performance or actually
00:39:41
botched it like
00:39:42
>> Yeah.
00:39:43
>> And so we and also obviously as as
00:39:45
actors we're kind of like I know what I
00:39:47
like and what I don't like, you know.
00:39:49
>> Um
00:39:50
>> well if you're tuning into that which is
00:39:52
different because most people are just
00:39:54
worried about their lines and the actors
00:39:55
are just doing it. If you're adding, I'm
00:39:58
tuning into the director, not only
00:39:59
talking to me, but how he's dealing with
00:40:01
the DP, how he's dealing with the other
00:40:03
departments, that's when you start to
00:40:04
learn about directing because
00:40:06
>> all that stuff is like you're on
00:40:07
blinders if you're an actor. And then
00:40:08
you go, wait, what do you even do back
00:40:10
here? And there's so much so many things
00:40:12
happen. Someone comes up with two pieces
00:40:14
of carpet, this one or this one, he's
00:40:15
like that one. You're like, okay. And
00:40:16
you go, oh, this is for a scene in three
00:40:18
weeks they're working on. And
00:40:20
>> there's story boards. There's so many
00:40:22
things to go over.
00:40:23
>> Yeah.
00:40:24
>> A lot of work. I think that also, you
00:40:26
know, if you have access at all, um, for
00:40:28
instance, when they say, "Okay, you can
00:40:29
go to your trailer and we'll call you
00:40:30
when you're ready." You know, it's like
00:40:32
you have the access to be like, "Oh,
00:40:33
I'll um go ahead and just get a chair
00:40:35
and I'll sit here and just get a tea and
00:40:37
watch."
00:40:38
>> I want to watch them flip it over to the
00:40:39
other side and see how they do it, how
00:40:41
fast they do it, who does what.
00:40:43
>> It is quite a rush though, right? Like
00:40:45
when you have an idea about a scene and
00:40:48
then you get the first rough cut of it
00:40:49
or I felt good but you don't know and
00:40:51
you go, "Fuck, it's working." And This
00:40:54
is great. You're bringing people into
00:40:56
the edit bay. What do you think? They're
00:40:58
laughing or saying this is great. And so
00:41:00
that's the rush of the [ __ ] the hard
00:41:02
work of director. So hard. But you work
00:41:06
for that. That's the moment, right?
00:41:08
>> Well, yeah. It's been interesting like
00:41:09
having the kids on sets and stuff where
00:41:11
they're looking at it and they're going,
00:41:12
"Oh my god." You know, I have to explain
00:41:15
this is a scene that will be probably
00:41:18
five seconds. Mhm.
00:41:20
>> All of these hundreds of people are
00:41:23
here.
00:41:24
>> We're all work. There's all of this
00:41:26
work. All these trucks for these five,
00:41:29
>> you know,
00:41:29
>> right?
00:41:30
>> That's the funny thing about you got an
00:41:32
eighth of a page one day when you go in,
00:41:33
you go, it's still the same hair and
00:41:35
makeup. It's still the same everything.
00:41:38
>> Everyone's coming to work.
00:41:39
>> Everyone's coming.
00:41:40
>> It's just to get a look, a reaction
00:41:41
shot. An eighth of a page can also be
00:41:44
like, you know, you know, she comes in,
00:41:47
she takes her, you know, she she she
00:41:50
take she makes a tea, she sits down and
00:41:52
she calls her mother. Okay, fine. You
00:41:54
know, and there's like three lines or
00:41:56
something like that and you're like,
00:41:56
"Okay, I'm going to be in and out for
00:41:58
this one." But, you know, it's not true.
00:42:00
>> Hilariously true. Even I I remember
00:42:02
those superhero movies, they said, "We
00:42:04
do about a fourth of a page a day."
00:42:06
They're like the line is like, "The
00:42:07
Batmobile tears through Gotham." and
00:42:09
you're like, "Well, that's going to take
00:42:11
a while.
00:42:11
>> That's a week. That's a week."
00:42:13
>> Yeah. They go the whole city.
00:42:15
>> Yeah. So, that's why little things like
00:42:17
that. You're right. There's some where
00:42:18
they'll go in a twoot and you're out of
00:42:21
there and you don't even notice it.
00:42:22
You're like, "Oh my god, we're just
00:42:23
going to stay on a two shot." That's
00:42:24
great. And then some you're like, I had
00:42:27
no idea this would take four hours.
00:42:29
>> I know. I know. And I try to I mean, I
00:42:31
get people out. I move really quickly
00:42:33
because I do think that in general I do
00:42:36
favor uh people, you know, two shots and
00:42:40
shots and things like that and like
00:42:41
playing it in the wide and you know,
00:42:43
>> get two cameras running and see what
00:42:45
>> movie masters. Yeah,
00:42:48
>> they work. I mean, it's cool because it
00:42:50
makes you pay attention if you're the
00:42:51
audience. You're like,
00:42:51
>> "Oh, yeah." And the actors love it. The
00:42:53
actors love it. We love it when we can
00:42:55
come in and just be with each other and
00:42:57
exist in the space. Oh, it's I if you
00:43:00
ever have need someone in a movie that I
00:43:02
could do anybody. I'll do a Italian
00:43:05
waiter or something. But uh that you
00:43:07
know when you watch old timey films
00:43:09
there's a lot of moving masters. There's
00:43:11
a lot of two shots moving in and out. Of
00:43:13
course Woody Allen really adapted that.
00:43:15
But old timey films to edit was like
00:43:17
>> spooling 100,000 feet of footage to do
00:43:21
one little edit. So they really made
00:43:23
sure that now it's in the the last 20
00:43:25
years.
00:43:27
I know. You know,
00:43:28
>> I do like cross coverage for comedians,
00:43:29
though. Like, we love that. We like to
00:43:31
be able to play and
00:43:33
>> if there's a happy accident that happens
00:43:35
and someone says something [ __ ]
00:43:37
hilarious, we got it. And we have a
00:43:40
response to it, you know? It's like
00:43:41
>> a real reaction. Yeah.
00:43:43
>> Yeah. Yeah,
00:43:43
>> I had someone do uh on a movie kind of
00:43:46
sabotage because I did my side and then
00:43:51
when they did their side they changed
00:43:52
their lines and did all these things in
00:43:54
ad lib and I was like oh so I have no
00:43:56
reaction any of this. That's like a
00:43:59
little dastardly move. It it's really a
00:44:01
bummer to be on I mean like I've been
00:44:03
you know I did a sketch show recently
00:44:05
and the the budget was low and so it was
00:44:07
like they couldn't do two cameras
00:44:09
running you know and it was like we're
00:44:10
just doing a quick set and I was like ah
00:44:12
[ __ ] a because it's it's you're
00:44:14
really screwed kind of because
00:44:16
>> [ __ ] a
00:44:17
>> yeah [ __ ] a.
00:44:20
I say to people, get get a crew of
00:44:23
three. Get like three actors together,
00:44:25
do it on iPhones with maybe one sound
00:44:28
person and just give yourself 12 days to
00:44:31
shoot, you know? I mean, yeah,
00:44:33
>> sometimes these things are so
00:44:35
magnificently done and then but there's
00:44:37
no they're there and you're flipping off
00:44:39
immediately.
00:44:40
>> Yeah. the you know
00:44:42
>> I think that's why also you know with
00:44:43
chair company it's like you're
00:44:46
>> there is kind of an economy to how I
00:44:49
mean yes we had like a full rig and
00:44:51
everything
00:44:52
>> but there is an economy to the visual
00:44:55
storytelling too you know it's like
00:44:56
she's using zooms you know it's like
00:44:59
you're out here you're you're coming in
00:45:01
I mean that's just one shot but it's
00:45:03
doing a lot you know
00:45:05
>> I thought that show would be a little
00:45:08
more lowbudget
00:45:10
only because it's just a funny guy to
00:45:12
and he was also on what it was called I
00:45:14
think you should leave
00:45:15
>> and so you just go I don't know what
00:45:16
budget they're giving a guy who's just
00:45:18
funny because I don't know I mean
00:45:19
sometimes they would spend on a big
00:45:21
drama right
00:45:22
>> and so when you see these they're like
00:45:25
>> they'll come up with something but it
00:45:28
looks great and I I kept thinking wow
00:45:30
there's a lot happening here they're not
00:45:31
just
00:45:32
>> it's not a cheap
00:45:34
>> beautiful it's the first show too I was
00:45:36
going to say earlier that um it's the
00:45:38
first show where I'm I noticed that in
00:45:41
the scripts, like when we're reading the
00:45:42
scripts, I'm like, "Oh, this scene, this
00:45:45
whole scene, this like page and a half
00:45:47
is purely for a joke."
00:45:50
>> No. Or money for one joke.
00:45:53
>> Yeah. In a in a series, it's usually
00:45:55
like, "Yeah, but why is this paying off
00:45:58
for the plot and like for this character
00:46:01
to kind of like have an emotional arc
00:46:03
and response in order to say something
00:46:05
about the No,
00:46:06
>> it would be like,
00:46:07
>> oh, we're just like there was this one,
00:46:09
I don't know if you've seen the the
00:46:10
flashback Christmas, and this is not
00:46:12
giving away anything too much.
00:46:14
>> Um, if you haven't seen it, a lot of
00:46:16
hand work here I'm doing. Um, and the
00:46:21
there's a flashback to us at a Christmas
00:46:23
party. It's my my Christmas party. I
00:46:25
used to be a lawyer. And they cast
00:46:28
there's just a moment where like Ron's
00:46:30
talking a guy at the party, you know,
00:46:33
and he's going, you know, get me out of
00:46:36
here. and they cast um an impersonator
00:46:40
for Curly
00:46:42
like from the sto
00:46:45
>> and I don't think he's ever done
00:46:47
anything else except
00:46:50
>> like
00:46:51
>> yeah and you'll know you'll see it now
00:46:54
when you watch it. Okay. So,
00:46:55
>> it's funny.
00:46:56
>> And I remember coming to set and being
00:46:57
like, "Is he doing a" And they're like,
00:47:00
"Yeah, he's a curly impersonator."
00:47:05
>> Okay.
00:47:06
>> Like some PA. Yeah, he's
00:47:07
>> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. He just he does
00:47:09
Cly
00:47:09
>> just casual
00:47:10
>> casual. And um and then they would do on
00:47:14
set they would have him do this. He was
00:47:16
amazing. and him and Ron, him and and um
00:47:21
Tim are talking and it's basically him
00:47:23
doing this kind of speech of [ __ ]
00:47:26
Uh and he's chatting his ear off as
00:47:29
Curly and they would turn up the curly
00:47:32
and then turn he had this actor turn
00:47:34
down the curly and when they turned down
00:47:37
the curly it it was almost like he
00:47:39
couldn't even he like couldn't find his
00:47:42
line. You know what I mean? He was
00:47:44
always at this poor guy because he's
00:47:46
like I do curly. All right. That's like
00:47:50
>> Yeah. Don't just curly. I don't I don't
00:47:52
do shades of curly. Okay. I do
00:47:54
Shakespeare. I don't do depressed curly.
00:47:57
I don't do bored curly. I do curly.
00:48:00
>> He was terrific. And you'll see in it.
00:48:02
You really notice it's only for this.
00:48:04
It's tiniest lip. But boy is it good.
00:48:07
But those textured things, even on SNL,
00:48:09
they'll have they'll bring a donkey in
00:48:11
and it costs them five grand. And then
00:48:13
they'll go, "Just for a cutaway." And
00:48:14
you go, "Ah, do we need the donkey for
00:48:17
sure?" But Lauren doesn't even question
00:48:18
it. He goes, "No, I like it."
00:48:20
>> And then they're like, "Go find one."
00:48:22
>> And everyone's like, "Oh, fuck." Because
00:48:24
it's so easy to cut it. They go, "That
00:48:26
would save us so much."
00:48:27
>> $5,000. We should be in the donkey
00:48:29
business. You'll be watching a rerun 20
00:48:32
years from now and you'll see the donkey
00:48:34
and you'll like be really really happy
00:48:36
that
00:48:37
>> you know like when they show like the
00:48:39
cold opening and then Lauren comes out
00:48:40
and he's like talking backstage during
00:48:42
the monologue and behind him there's
00:48:43
like Roman emperors and three donkeys
00:48:46
and I never knew that they weren't in
00:48:47
the show. It was just like this is going
00:48:49
to be the show and you're like oh that's
00:48:51
going to be a funny sketch. But he goes,
00:48:53
"Uh, I need like an Egyptian backstage."
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And then just all these weird things,
00:48:57
people dressed in feathers.
00:48:59
>> And then it's never a sketch.
00:49:01
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00:49:03
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00:49:04
>> Yeah. It's texture and it's so funny
00:49:06
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00:49:07
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00:49:08
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00:49:10
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When you do SNL now, I don't know if I
00:52:31
told you that. Well, you were there
00:52:32
doing Hunter Biden that Lauren is now at
00:52:35
home base when the show starts and you
00:52:38
come out and kind of shake hands or hug
00:52:40
him or whatever, you know.
00:52:41
>> Let's get this one fist bump.
00:52:43
>> And normally you kind of would go behind
00:52:45
the slats and then but I was dressed as
00:52:47
Joe Biden. So I had the gray wig, I had
00:52:49
the whole thing on. I'd go out and I'd
00:52:51
shake hands with Lauren and then to make
00:52:54
myself laugh, I would do a side thing as
00:52:59
fast as I could with tons of energy like
00:53:01
jumping and skipping over to behind the
00:53:03
thing just to make myself laugh that
00:53:05
they're seeing Biden going like
00:53:08
>> act nuts before he comes out like this.
00:53:11
Come on. So people sad. But um anyway,
00:53:16
uh do that is
00:53:19
>> No. Oh, that's the po that's the poem.
00:53:21
And guess what? By the way, the fact of
00:53:24
the matter is I'm being serious right
00:53:26
now. I'm not getting around. Get your
00:53:28
facts straight, Jack.
00:53:31
That's it.
00:53:33
>> My cheeks are I'm really happy that you
00:53:36
>> like, tell us that you're cars or not.
00:53:38
>> We're easy wind up talls.
00:53:39
>> I know. We're winding up Lake because
00:53:41
she's a good laugher.
00:53:42
>> Well, that was really special. I feel
00:53:44
like I just got like a little
00:53:45
>> You just got a private show. Oh, good.
00:53:47
It's a fun song.
00:53:49
>> I know. That was a beautiful song.
00:53:50
You're a great Biden singer. And you
00:53:52
know, I was at the 50th and that was
00:53:56
special show, too. And I I had never,
00:53:58
you know, I hadn't been to the show in a
00:54:00
while. And it was like,
00:54:01
>> you know, I hadn't sat in the audience,
00:54:03
you know, and really tragic to to have a
00:54:06
little
00:54:08
>> It's wild.
00:54:09
>> Yeah. And guess who stole the show?
00:54:12
What?
00:54:13
>> Guess who stole the 50th? Well,
00:54:17
>> with David's line for the writers, it
00:54:19
was their favorite line of the night
00:54:21
when he was in the bleachers going,
00:54:23
>> "Oh, I got a feel for it.
00:54:24
>> I got a feel for it."
00:54:25
>> Oh, because I left the sketch during the
00:54:27
middle
00:54:27
>> during the big John Melany musical
00:54:31
>> and then I sat in the audience and they
00:54:33
go, "Where's SP?" That's funny that they
00:54:35
broke the fourth wall in the middle of a
00:54:36
sketch.
00:54:38
>> Yeah. And the way you did it, like you
00:54:39
truly were exhausted and kind of done
00:54:41
with it and they're up there dancing for
00:54:43
their donuts and you're just like, I got
00:54:46
it.
00:54:47
>> Dana, I saw that that 50th was
00:54:50
>> won something the other night.
00:54:52
>> It was Critics's Choice. I think it was
00:54:54
nominated. I think it won.
00:54:56
>> It was best 50th anniversary show.
00:55:00
>> That's a new category.
00:55:01
>> We were the only one up for it.
00:55:02
>> Yeah.
00:55:03
>> Are you Do you root for any movie at the
00:55:05
Golden Globes? Do you have any kind of I
00:55:07
think that person should win or I think
00:55:09
that movie are you a one battle after
00:55:11
another. Are you a Marty Supreme? Yeah.
00:55:14
What are
00:55:15
>> you?
00:55:15
>> No, I I I you know I don't get I award
00:55:17
season gets it gets me like hives. I
00:55:20
don't know. I I just
00:55:22
>> Here's Lake at the party. Did you think
00:55:24
that was good at the lead actor one? And
00:55:26
you go I I didn't see any. I don't know
00:55:28
who won.
00:55:29
>> Well, you know, sometimes you get
00:55:30
anxiety. They they say to you, you know,
00:55:32
who are you rooting for? What if you
00:55:34
>> Oh, good. I gave you the precursor. I
00:55:36
love them all.
00:55:37
>> Well, it's gotten pathetic. I grew up
00:55:39
with the Oscars and now there's like 25
00:55:42
award shows.
00:55:43
>> Award shows
00:55:44
>> and I feel like some of them I won't
00:55:46
name them, but that they've got their
00:55:47
acceptance speech and sometimes they can
00:55:49
peak at a at the SEG after awards or
00:55:52
something. Then by the time they get to
00:55:54
the Oscars,
00:55:56
>> they're exhausted with their acceptance
00:55:58
speech. You got to hold some
00:55:59
>> I saw that Sandler didn't win something
00:56:01
the other night and I'm like, I want to
00:56:02
hear Sandler's speech.
00:56:04
They should just call my Who's got a
00:56:05
good speech?
00:56:08
>> What are you going to do?
00:56:09
>> Cuz you know he he had a good one at the
00:56:11
Palm Springs.
00:56:15
We just do Adam from 25.
00:56:17
>> That's all he says and everyone goes
00:56:23
get out of here.
00:56:25
>> People would love it.
00:56:27
>> But you know anyway, it's a promotion
00:56:28
for the business. That's all it is. And
00:56:30
>> yeah,
00:56:31
>> and for fashion, I guess. I don't know.
00:56:33
Um I have to say for like if she the
00:56:37
fact that she's grinding it out and and
00:56:39
killing it uh the duration it's just
00:56:42
hard to stay
00:56:44
>> in showbiz for this long and you're
00:56:46
doing a great job.
00:56:47
>> Well, but you're doing she's very hard
00:56:48
to do. She's doing it all of show
00:56:51
businesses though. You're doing every
00:56:52
quadrant. You're not an actress waiting
00:56:54
for the phone. Did it ring?
00:56:55
>> That's Yeah, I that is I it would drive
00:56:58
me crazy. I think when I feel um
00:57:01
sedentary, like when I feel
00:57:03
>> too um quiet,
00:57:06
>> I like to I think I do like control. I
00:57:09
do like to creatively,
00:57:12
you know, kind of drum up and so I'm
00:57:14
always writing. I got like
00:57:16
>> Yeah. I mean, you I I think this audio
00:57:17
book was very cool. I just looked it up
00:57:19
and listening to it.
00:57:20
>> Inside voices. It was very interesting
00:57:22
just about she was interviewing people
00:57:24
and talking about do you like your voice
00:57:27
and how important the voice is and what
00:57:29
Yeah.
00:57:29
>> Well, because I think in extension of my
00:57:31
work with in a world, I've just always
00:57:34
been really
00:57:35
>> um interested and curious about our
00:57:38
speaking voice as this kind of calling
00:57:41
card
00:57:42
>> for all the histories we've ever
00:57:43
endured, you know, and
00:57:45
>> yeah,
00:57:45
>> kind of, you know, we carry a lot. I
00:57:47
mean whether you uh realize it or not
00:57:50
obviously accents and dialects and a
00:57:52
little like how your vowels come out you
00:57:54
know might cue that you grew up in
00:57:56
Philadelphia or you know things like
00:57:58
that but then how we kind of puff out or
00:58:02
peacock a little bit when we're you know
00:58:04
in different scenarios like I'm
00:58:06
articulating a little more than I
00:58:07
normally do you know right now I think
00:58:09
I'm also a little bit lower in my
00:58:11
register in this moment talking about
00:58:13
this because I'm speaking more
00:58:15
>> serious yeah Yeah, voices are
00:58:18
fingerprints.
00:58:19
>> Voice I mean you know someone from their
00:58:21
voice your whole life and even if they
00:58:24
age or get the voice always sort of
00:58:26
recognizable.
00:58:27
>> Yeah. And and also it can be really like
00:58:30
it can make me crawl too, you know. I
00:58:33
have certain one,
00:58:34
>> you know, if if someone comes in
00:58:37
>> um for a job interview, you know, or
00:58:40
something like that. I mean to be a
00:58:42
babysitter or whatever, you know, or or
00:58:44
an assistant. And if their voice, I'm
00:58:47
very sensitive to it. So, it's like
00:58:50
>> we're we're out on that job. Dana,
00:58:53
>> David has a cool voice. You know, I
00:58:55
don't have a voice. I don't have a face
00:58:56
or a voice. I'm just neutral. I could go
00:58:59
You could make me a character or make my
00:59:01
voice go. Lately, I've been doing Carrie
00:59:03
Grant, leaving messages for a friend
00:59:06
just every day. Every day that you get
00:59:08
the call. I hope you're having a good
00:59:09
day. Did you see one battle after
00:59:12
another that the Caprio kids very good?
00:59:15
See, but you're chameleon. So that is in
00:59:18
itself your vocal dexterity is like I'm
00:59:20
in awe of that. You know,
00:59:22
>> in two seconds it changes completely.
00:59:26
>> I It's fun. I don't really practice it
00:59:28
or anything, but I'm working on Billy
00:59:30
Bob Thordon in in his land man
00:59:32
character, you know.
00:59:33
>> Okay. I don't I didn't see that so I
00:59:35
can't
00:59:35
>> Yeah, it's another one that's I couldn't
00:59:38
describe it, but it's it goes surprising
00:59:40
places. I have to say
00:59:42
>> it's it's totally different than than
00:59:46
your your show, but it it goes
00:59:48
surprising places and he's just great
00:59:51
>> in inside voice. You know, I talked to
00:59:53
like the likes of iconic voices like um
00:59:56
like Jeff Goldblum and like where did
00:59:58
that start, you know, and like
01:00:01
Barrymore, you know, people who have
01:00:02
been very
01:00:05
>> imitated, you know, very impersonated
01:00:07
for sure voices. Yeah.
01:00:10
>> Yes. I do Billy Bob in his T-Mobile
01:00:12
commercial. Land Man.
01:00:14
>> I'm kidding.
01:00:15
>> Okay.
01:00:16
>> He does a T-Mobile commercial where he's
01:00:18
like from Land Man, right Dana? Have you
01:00:20
seen it?
01:00:20
>> Basically. Yeah.
01:00:21
>> He's walking out in the desert. Come on
01:00:23
now. Whatever he's talking about.
01:00:24
>> Yeah. You know, T-Mobile's got more. You
01:00:28
know what the [ __ ] going on here?
01:00:31
Godamn it. No, he's they have the
01:00:33
f-word, too. I mean, that's the same
01:00:35
your your show. It just those fly
01:00:37
whenever they fly. or they fly
01:00:39
>> and they do whatever you you know. Do
01:00:41
>> you find Dana that like to get into an
01:00:44
accent or diale Sorry, now we're getting
01:00:46
into like my obsession, but like do you
01:00:48
find that you you have a bridge uh
01:00:51
phrase um because I find with accents
01:00:53
dialects I have like a a bridge or a
01:00:55
phrase to get
01:00:56
>> Oh yeah,
01:00:57
>> a thousand%.
01:00:58
>> Yeah.
01:00:58
>> Yeah. Thousand%.
01:01:00
>> You don't just jump in. You you got
01:01:01
>> a hook. Yeah. Yeah. You need a you need
01:01:03
a little hook. And for Biden it was
01:01:05
that. Guess what? Yeah. And by the way,
01:01:08
the fact of the matter is, come on. And
01:01:10
so that got me into it and then I could
01:01:12
kind of talk like him. But that was a
01:01:14
challenge. But anyway, it's always
01:01:15
things are coming at me. I mean, know
01:01:17
Trump's been done forever. You know, I
01:01:18
don't know if you guys are aware of
01:01:19
that. How many people doing an
01:01:21
impression? So
01:01:23
>> there's there's I think Pierce Morgan
01:01:25
has a very interesting voice.
01:01:27
>> Uhhuh.
01:01:27
>> And I think that Senator Kennedy has a
01:01:30
you know, obviously Bobby Kennedy Jr. I
01:01:32
do, but yeah, there's a lot of people
01:01:34
out there. And there's regular movie
01:01:36
stars. Anyway, it's fun. But um shall we
01:01:39
wrap it up? I don't know. I don't know
01:01:41
if you have any other questions because
01:01:42
we think you you're a
01:01:44
>> she mother with two children.
01:01:47
>> Thank you for doing your hair.
01:01:48
>> She writes, she directs. She does.
01:01:51
>> It's not quite the golden gloves. Now,
01:01:52
when you do a podcast, we had heard that
01:01:55
when we have an actress on, they might
01:01:57
not want to come on video because it's
01:02:01
they have to doll up. And I said, I
01:02:02
think in podcast you catch a little bit
01:02:04
of a break.
01:02:05
>> You You do. And you know somewhere in
01:02:08
the middle
01:02:08
>> want glam. And I was like,
01:02:11
>> I mean, I think I can do the glam. I can
01:02:14
glam in my bathroom, you know, with my
01:02:18
curling iron and
01:02:19
>> with a banana clip and a scrunchie and
01:02:23
>> you know, but I don't know.
01:02:24
>> Well, you're photogenic. I mean, I'll
01:02:26
just just saying it kind of casually.
01:02:28
You really have great features. Yeah.
01:02:30
Um it's it just you I'm sure directors
01:02:34
say you don't have a bad angle probably
01:02:36
you know um
01:02:38
>> but uh yeah it's fine and I do think
01:02:40
we're all used to this and you know I
01:02:42
have a couple ring lights in a window
01:02:43
and I mean we're all kind of a little
01:02:45
more than the early days where it was
01:02:46
pitch black and no one we were doing now
01:02:49
you see people it looks like a studio.
01:02:52
>> Well I hope I get to see you guys at
01:02:54
these parties. Yeah,
01:02:55
>> I I do. I've quoted you often throughout
01:02:58
the years because when we did the press
01:03:00
junket, you know, it's the awkward
01:03:02
goodbye because we've been hanging out
01:03:04
all day with Bobby Moyahan and laughing
01:03:06
and stuff and then it's like, hey, and
01:03:08
then you just said see you around
01:03:10
campus.
01:03:11
>> I Yeah, I did say that.
01:03:12
>> And so I use that a lot.
01:03:14
>> Well, because it's kind of like
01:03:16
>> it's fun,
01:03:17
>> right? So, let's say a lot.
01:03:18
>> We're all at college basically. We're
01:03:20
going to run into each other. We're in
01:03:21
show business, which is weirdly such a
01:03:24
tiny group of people in the big picture.
01:03:26
You know, there's not that many parties
01:03:28
or that many comedians or whatever.
01:03:30
>> It's like a party and you see someone
01:03:32
who you don't you haven't met before,
01:03:34
but you both are actors and you both
01:03:36
know that other are actors and you do
01:03:39
the kind of like hi,
01:03:42
>> you know,
01:03:42
>> that's how I'm going to say hi to you.
01:03:44
>> Like I know, you know, we both know that
01:03:47
we know each other. Here's Lake. When I
01:03:51
see her at the Golden Globe, I go, "Hi,
01:03:52
Lake." And you go, "Hi, I know you from
01:03:54
somewhere." And I go,
01:03:55
>> "Wait, where did we
01:03:56
>> Yeah, we just
01:03:57
>> Well, the go, it's so nice to see you.
01:04:01
When you don't know if you've met them
01:04:02
or not.
01:04:03
>> Yep.
01:04:04
>> We have when they give you a soft hug
01:04:07
and you see that they're looking over at
01:04:09
a bigger celebrity,
01:04:12
>> they're going, I got to get
01:04:13
>> I've never had anyone even look at me at
01:04:15
those parts. They just go like this.
01:04:18
>> Oh, come on. Usually they say, "Um,
01:04:20
could I can I get a freshen up?"
01:04:23
>> They go to give me a hug by the
01:04:24
shoulders and then they move me.
01:04:26
>> They move you over to the side.
01:04:28
>> Bonitio.
01:04:30
>> Benitio.
01:04:31
>> One time we went to a party, David got
01:04:33
on my shoulders and I was like, you
01:04:36
couldn't see me and then he was dancing
01:04:38
around with a marach thing going on.
01:04:39
>> Look at me.
01:04:41
>> Yeah.
01:04:44
>> Well, like why is like so popular? Like
01:04:46
even I hear even more on every show and
01:04:49
with just like No, you don't say it
01:04:51
hardly at all. You said like maybe
01:04:53
twice.
01:04:54
>> But like is really good. It was like
01:04:56
really hard and I was like very scared
01:04:58
and I was like
01:04:59
>> really hard. It's like really hard to
01:05:02
>> I like when they don't finish it. They
01:05:03
go it's kind of like
01:05:06
>> Yeah. they don't finish the sentence
01:05:07
>> and you're like you just got to like
01:05:09
that's all you got to
01:05:09
>> but that's been around since the 80s or
01:05:12
70s sort of called the valley girl but
01:05:14
it's even still this back with people
01:05:16
from everywhere I don't
01:05:17
>> it's still here it's I mean
01:05:20
>> it's better than the like I said it
01:05:22
>> oh
01:05:24
>> because we're kind of we're kind of
01:05:25
teasing it a little bit
01:05:26
>> I'm gonna if I hear myself say I'm gonna
01:05:28
substitute lake for like it's like it's
01:05:31
lake
01:05:32
>> it's like
01:05:32
>> it's like I didn't even know but it's
01:05:34
lake
01:05:35
>> see if we can start a thing.
01:05:36
>> Well, sometimes you're allowed to
01:05:38
utilize it as a a version of as if. It
01:05:42
is like,
01:05:43
>> right. No, it's it it has utility as a
01:05:46
word.
01:05:47
>> Utility.
01:05:48
>> Yeah. It's not completely, you know. All
01:05:50
right. Uh, thank you, Dana. I made you
01:05:53
lunch. Come in the kitchen.
01:05:55
>> Um,
01:05:55
>> the the chair company on HBO, which
01:05:58
makes quality products, I have to say,
01:06:00
you know, HBO is a big
01:06:02
>> HBO doesn't [ __ ] around.
01:06:04
They don't they don't make shitty ones.
01:06:05
And so this is uh HBO Max Jim Downey,
01:06:08
our friends on it. Timar
01:06:11
>> Tell them
01:06:12
>> Oh, tell him hello.
01:06:14
>> You want me to I
01:06:16
>> He was my head writer when I was there.
01:06:17
I had to report to him.
01:06:19
>> Okay.
01:06:20
>> Crazy. We all We all kind of did.
01:06:23
>> If you if you run into Downey, just go,
01:06:25
"What was it like to be a regular
01:06:26
infantryman in George Washington's army
01:06:29
in the latter part of the war?" and
01:06:32
he'll give you two hours. The guy goes
01:06:34
into libraries and colleges. He's from
01:06:37
Harvard or Yale. I don't know. He's the
01:06:38
brainiac of all time in terms of
01:06:40
American history.
01:06:42
>> Really?
01:06:42
>> He's fascinating to listen to. Yeah.
01:06:44
>> I I don't with him.
01:06:45
>> I can't believe I ignore him so much.
01:06:47
>> Oh, you haven't. Yeah. You don't
01:06:48
interact with him. You're at home.
01:06:50
>> Barb is
01:06:52
>> Barb is over there.
01:06:54
>> All right.
01:06:55
>> Shut up, Barb. Barb.
01:06:57
>> Shut up, Barb.
01:06:58
>> Trosper. Trosper.
01:07:00
>> Yeah, Trosper. Barb. Prosper. Ron,
01:07:02
>> I'm Barbrosper.
01:07:03
>> Even stupider.
01:07:05
>> I'm Barb Trosper.
01:07:06
>> I remember I was like even the words
01:07:08
like Fisher Rob
01:07:11
>> is the name of the mall company.
01:07:14
>> Yeah, that's so dumb. Someone's working
01:07:16
overtime on these dumb names.
01:07:18
>> Oh, it's so
01:07:18
>> a chair company. Quick walking around
01:07:21
the mall. There's something about a
01:07:23
mall. Walking around a mall. It's really
01:07:25
funny.
01:07:26
>> Makes sense. But it's like a robot. I
01:07:28
just kept being like I'm dyslexic. I was
01:07:30
like pretty sure that like I couldn't
01:07:33
>> blind
01:07:36
um Oh, there was something else like I
01:07:38
kept saying a name wrong. Oh, this is
01:07:40
really fun. Sorry, last thing. But they
01:07:42
would say like there's um the the the
01:07:46
girlfriend like the fiance of our
01:07:47
daughter is named Tara,
01:07:50
>> but we intentionally say it wrong. So
01:07:52
sometimes it's Tara
01:07:54
>> and Tara. And I was like, "Is it Tara or
01:07:56
Tara?" And they're like, "It's fine.
01:07:57
Don't worry about it." And I was like,
01:07:59
"But is it?" They're like,
01:08:00
>> "Because that happens in real life.
01:08:02
People say
01:08:03
>> and it's just because we don't like her,
01:08:05
you know,
01:08:06
>> I love people like that are in charge of
01:08:08
this that are not control freaks and are
01:08:11
open to the mistakes and the weirdness
01:08:13
and the quirky
01:08:15
>> and we don't it's terror. Terror terror
01:08:19
t
01:08:19
>> All right, Lake, thank you. I have to go
01:08:21
microwave.
01:08:22
>> I appreciate you coming on.
01:08:24
>> Nice to see you, Lake. See you around
01:08:26
campus.
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Episode Highlights

  • Lake Bell's Unique Name
    Lake Bell discusses the uniqueness of her name and its impact on her career.
    “It is kind of the coolest name you could have in show business.”
    @ 00m 46s
    March 12, 2026
  • The Power of a Kitchenette
    Lake Bell shares her love for kitchenettes and their comforting vibe.
    “If there’s a kitchenette, you’re like, I’ve made it.”
    @ 06m 12s
    March 12, 2026
  • Voice Acting Insights
    Lake Bell reveals the challenges and humor of voice acting in animated films.
    “You’re behind a glass. You’re in a booth.”
    @ 17m 26s
    March 12, 2026
  • The Pressure of Appearances
    Navigating the complexities of attending glamorous events can be overwhelming, especially for women.
    “I don't even know if I can afford to go to that party.”
    @ 22m 12s
    March 12, 2026
  • Perspective in Directing
    Finding calm in chaos is essential when directing, especially with unexpected challenges.
    “It's a movie. You know, it does put it in perspective.”
    @ 28m 16s
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  • Adapting to Life's Challenges
    Teaching children to adapt to unexpected situations is crucial for their growth.
    “If you could just kind of adapt and adjust.”
    @ 29m 43s
    March 12, 2026
  • Laugh Out Loud Moments
    The humor in the show is unpredictable and genuinely funny, making it stand out.
    “It was just really laugh out loud funny.”
    @ 35m 11s
    March 12, 2026
  • The Importance of Authenticity
    The director's approach allows for real moments that enhance comedic timing.
    “You could strangle that comedy in a second with a different director.”
    @ 37m 29s
    March 12, 2026
  • Wellness Made Simple
    Spring inspires a refresh in routines, but simplicity is key for sticking to wellness plans.
    “If my wellness plan feels complicated, I blow it off.”
    @ 50m 59s
    March 12, 2026
  • Award Show Anxiety
    Navigating the pressures of award season and the overwhelming number of shows.
    “Award season gets me like hives.”
    @ 55m 17s
    March 12, 2026
  • The Power of Voice
    Exploring how our voices carry histories and identities, revealing much about who we are.
    “Your voice is your calling card for all the histories we've ever endured.”
    @ 57m 41s
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  • Podcast Engagement
    If you’re loving this podcast, be sure to click follow and leave a review!
    “Hey guys, if you're loving this podcast, which you are, be sure to click follow”
    @ 01h 08m 31s
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  • Lake Bell00:26
  • Voice Acting17:26
  • Celebrity Pressure21:56
  • Nostalgia for Analog30:16
  • Unique Tone34:41
  • Spring Refresh50:53
  • Wellness Simplicity51:01
  • Award Show Talk55:14

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