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Cesley Strong is with us right now. This
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is one we aired a few months ago. We got
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to have a nice little chat with her. She
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was on the show when Dana did it, I
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think. And uh
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>> she you were there when you ho when you
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hosted, right?
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>> Yeah. I mean, we um Yeah, she was in
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that cast. She had a nice long run on uh
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SNL. We talked all about all about that.
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And you know, just the leaving of SNL is
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kind of bittersweet and you're walking
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out in the world. and she uh was uh on a
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showmigadon.
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>> Mhm.
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>> Michael Key, right?
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>> And yeah, she was uh when she left, it
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was one of those ones that they feel a
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little bit because when a good cast
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member leaves, it's tough. I mean, they
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cover it, but you know, she's one of the
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ones that was just a a consistent hitter
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every week.
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>> Yeah. She kept just just um upping her
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game all through the seasons, you know,
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and uh
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>> it's hard to leave, but she did. And uh
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the show's really funny. Uh it was three
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years ago at the time of her. So, um I
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don't know.
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>> Is that what she was on three years ago?
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>> Well, according to Feels like we just
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talked to her, but anyway, they go so
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fast. But a lot of uh a lot of good
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things. We had a great time with her and
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she gives us a lot of insight to what
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it's like over there. and also life
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after
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>> Yeah.
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>> SNL.
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>> Yeah. She's a an adorable person.
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>> Yeah. Cesley Strong. Here we go.
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>> Everyone off. She's here.
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>> The thing about Cesily is she's always
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prompt. You You'll find that she'll be
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on the Zoom a little bit earlier than
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when it was scheduled. Like 35 to 45.
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Oh, sorry. Hi. You I love your sweater.
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>> Yeah. Well, thanks. We're doing a
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similar themed.
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>> Well, this is a Yeah, kind of colorful.
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It's the perfect puffer. That's David's
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David has a perfect puffer. I'm in
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Northern California. It's freezing and
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there's a hypersonic river. You know,
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there's never a rainstorm. It's always a
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cyclone bomb. So, but it's kind of nice.
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>> Still going. Is that still happening?
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>> Oh, yeah. We haven't quit.
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>> Northern California never lays down with
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this. They They never quit. True. I
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suppose
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>> I'm not apologizing for my hair, but I'm
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just going to say we're just going to
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deal with it on this.
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>> It looks like a fashion choice. It's
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kind of hip.
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>> That's what it used to look like. I'm
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going to say two words right now about
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David's hair. Bad. Bad boy.
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>> Essentially, back me up. Bad boy. Right.
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Unkept. Ready.
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>> Bad boy hair.
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>> Yeah.
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>> And bad boys never go out of style,
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>> right? Bad boy lost his comb.
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Bad boys never go out of style. So,
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they're in style and they're going to
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stay in style.
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>> By the way, just so you know,
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>> Dana was saying it rains and you're not
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in LA, I don't think, but it's raining
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always now. It's a new thing. And you
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think with the taxes and everything, the
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only thing we get is good weather. Now,
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we don't have that. So, when it rains,
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the weather man goes like this,
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>> it's going to pour for seven days
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straight. And then you and there's such
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a big drought here. Everyone goes, "Oh,
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good." And he goes, "But it's not going
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to help the drought." Did you think
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that? And I go, "Oh, I did think that."
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And I go, "No." See, it's funny you
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would think that, but the drought is
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getting worse. And I'm like, I don't
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think I know what a drought is then
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because why is all the rain not helping?
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And they're like, it's nothing. It just
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>> It's got to go underground, man. It's
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all about recharging it underground,
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>> right? But it was like, well, it's good
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to fill the ones overground, too. I
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think
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>> I don't know. We don't know what's
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getting filled.
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>> Celebrate the little winds, right?
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I thought it was a little wind.
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>> It was a little wind. Shasta is a mofo.
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That thing is so [ __ ] huge. And it's
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get it's going to get so full when the
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mountains start to melt that they're
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going to have to release water. Here's
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my point. If it rains outside, I don't
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really have a point. I take I took a 1
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hour shower yesterday just to kind of
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just cuz it was raining outside. I go,
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how much could it hurt?
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>> Yeah. Norally
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>> I didn't know where you were going with
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that, but I'm okay. I'm so punchy and I
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have nothing. But at least I'll admit it
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ahead of time. Cesley, we're so glad
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you're on this show. We're so excited.
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>> It's wonderful to be here. I just adore
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you both. I hope you know that.
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>> I think I told you both that the 50th,
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but I don't Or the 40th. I mean, jeez.
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But I don't know if you remember.
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>> 50th is next.
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>> You know, we're 40th. Uh Cesley, it is
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Cesley, right? You say Cesy. Yes.
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Cesley.
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>> I won't say it wrong. Okay. Um
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>> people do say it wrong. You've been
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saying it right. I appreciate that.
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>> I'm Dana and he's Devid. Yeah. No, it's
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Cesaly is very hip. Cecily is like works
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at a mall or something.
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>> Cecily I don't know about. Yeah.
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>> Yeah. When we did the 40th, aside from
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the excitement of it all and seeing
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everywhere you turn, someone was fun to
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see and old, new cast, whatever,
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whatever. Uh uh uh she was assigned the
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thankless job of doing my bye-bye with
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me, which uh you know, the show was so
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thrown together. Not thankless. That was
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very exciting. I mean, can you imagine?
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>> Yes. Yes.
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>> It didn't kill and get off the charts
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and win awards.
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>> Well,
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>> yeah. Ju just for a second for our
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audience. David used to do a charact his
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first character that landed an absolute
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catchphrase. Flight attendant as you get
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off the plane saying bye-bye. Right. So
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then on the 40th, you two were in the
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sketch. Uh fill us in. What happened?
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How did you get together? How did where
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were you in the show? Hour three or hour
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six.
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>> We ended the Californians.
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>> Yes. And
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>> And I actually have the picture of you
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and I standing there, I think, with
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Bradley Cooper, but I have the little
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frame picture on my wall. Yeah. I love
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it.
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>> You know what was fun about that was uh
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I think it was I talked to Shroom Taker
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um Michael Shoemaker and he
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>> Shroom Taker.
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What's the shroom taker with Michael?
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Like
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>> Michael, his name sounds like shroom
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taker. Shroom.
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>> Oh, I thought it's like he deals in
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silicon. Um, I'll just have a small
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amount Marchie. Sorry. Anyway,
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so anyway, you guys did the sketch, the
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Californians, and then the end you two
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were placed on the sound stage kind of
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at the at the edge of their set and did
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a goodbye. Bye-bye. Bye-bye. Bye-bye.
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Yeah, it was it was funny because a
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shoemaker I asked Shoemaker I said what
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what if because this show is obviously
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so thrown together and no one cares.
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What if when someone's leaving a sketch
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they just walk by and we go bye-bye and
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he goes yeah we can probably do that. So
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he talked to Higgins and then they said
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you would be good for that. And then uh
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we stood there and I have a picture I
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think it's probably from Is it from
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rehearsal or is it from the real show? I
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have one I think from rehearsal.
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>> Uh oh I'm not sure.
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And uh,
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>> hey gang, let's put it on social media
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when somebody's episode comes out.
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Doesn't matter. But it was fun because
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Taylor Swift was in it. So basically
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Dana, it was very unorthodox. They do
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this sketch that's a big favorite sketch
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and then when they're leaving, we just
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stand there for absolutely no reason and
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go by.
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>> I remember it. I remember it now. Yeah.
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It's it's kind of meta or whatever that
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word means.
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>> Yeah. It was fun. And Taylor Swift was
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in it. She was very tall.
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>> She is very tall. Was she swift in a way
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in her movements? Sorry, it's all I got.
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>> Now, why do you ask that?
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>> Well, I I don't know. Maybe some
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subconscious connection. So, anyway,
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Cesley, we're we've been watching all
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your cool stuff. Re
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>> I I didn't even know where to start. We
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can go chronologically, but one thing
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that I did absolutely love as a someone
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who loves accents
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>> is the way your British
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>> iniccernable character super
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>> super cockney like that is just music to
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me. I love
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>> music to ears.
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>> I'm Gemma.
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>> Would you give us just a You don't have
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to do it. I mean, just talk through it
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in that or just give us a three seconds.
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>> Well, I think you also have to put make
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it feel like you have big teeth, too. I
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think because I was I was watching a lot
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of a British reality show, but everybody
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gets their teeth done.
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>> So So thought I
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>> Gemma Collins
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>> that's there is a Gemma Collins who is
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on the show that I was watching a lot of
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>> a slight bite. Yeah.
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>> Yeah. Sort of like if you think of your
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talking around your teeth like that.
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>> So you have
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>> Wait, I want to hear.
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>> It's just like you're talking around
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your teeth. It's there's a show called
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The Only Way is Essics and it's sort of
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like that and they do a lot of like
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American vocal fry almost.
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>> Oh, it's so refined. I love that. I God,
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I love that they're doing a lot, too.
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I'm It's It's fun for me. I'm
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>> It's just what it sounds like to my ear.
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I feel like there's always then a
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million comments. They're like, "That's
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not how that sounds."
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>> Which are the most fun people to be
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watching.
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>> Yeah. The ones who are upset. We don't
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sound like that. But you're teasing it
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out and making it a a character. I mean,
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there's you're doing something lispy or
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something with your teeth. It's very
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gives you a little
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>> the S. It's almost like a little lisp
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because of the the teeth, I think.
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>> Is that is it a little Who's a great
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actress? Olivia Coleman or you know, she
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did the queen. Is that the name of that
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actress?
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>> Yeah, I assume so. Yes.
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>> Let's let's say that's her name. She's
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on the crown. Close enough. She has a
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little over does. Anyway, I love that.
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So that's where we wanted to start.
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>> Well, just fanning out.
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>> Okay. Well, I'm a fan. And Dana, just so
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you know, I also I just want to say I
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also have a picture of you from the
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40th. It was a It was a huge deal. I
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think I was in my second year on the
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show or something. So, it was like 20
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2014.
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>> Yeah, it was very cool. I have a picture
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of you and Mike Meyers and your
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Wayneworld
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getups and I got to stand in between you
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two and that was very exciting. Yeah.
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Wow. It was it that night. Yeah. When
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you just say it's Billy Crystal, there's
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Steve Martin. Oh, Bill Murray. It was
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And in the audience. Oh, there's Eddie
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Murphy. Tom Hanks. There's Donald Trump.
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I mean, it's just like
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>> it's Keith Richards.
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>> Everybody was famous that you looked at.
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So, it was nerve-wracking in that way.
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That 40th, that darn 40th.
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>> You didn't get a Did you get a plus one?
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>> Uh, I I did actually to the party. I
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did.
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>> What
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>> was that? Should I I don't know. Is that
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not
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>> No, I'm calling Lauren on the other
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floor.
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>> Somewhere in the overflow room. The most
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uh the toughest one cast members. Some
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were put in the overflow room.
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>> Rough.
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>> I next year we'll have a net up top.
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There'll be no overthrow. People sort of
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like loose circus net. They'll bounce
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around. It'll be like that thing of like
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they'll see the show. So I had to go I
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had to go in there and get Rob
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Schneider.
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>> I love the Lauren. Yeah.
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>> You You must do your own version of
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Lauren. But I can't do it in front of
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like the best Lauren Lauren
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impersonator.
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>> Everyone has different ones. You know
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who was everybody's
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>> Andy Samberg did the he does the quiet
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one. Bill hat her just you know it'd be
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really nice if like it was a good show.
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You know there's the quiet Lauren and
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Right. I don't know. Everyone has their
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>> I like to imagine that Lauren I like to
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do Lauren when he's like laughing so
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hard at a sketch or so imagining that he
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really loves her. Oh my [ __ ] god. Oh.
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OH NO, THEY DIDN'T. [ __ ] [ __ ] THAT IS
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MY [ __ ]
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>> Him really going on.
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>> Well, that's to that point. Lauren has a
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He'll be very casual. If something hits
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him, and we've never talked about this,
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he goes into almost a convulsion or
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spasm. He has a laugh from 0 to 10, puts
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his head down. We've never talked about
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this. That is a that is a really really
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>> good observation because he does that at
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read through if he if you can make him
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laugh and slap the desk or something
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you're like holy [ __ ]
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>> Oh yeah. And just to be clear he doesn't
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say those thing. That's what I know.
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>> I like to put that on him. Yes. But I
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have seen him a couple times in 11 years
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laugh very hard.
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>> Yeah.
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>> Yeah. How is he? Uh, you know, we were
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talking with other cast members the
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other day and Lauren's Lawrence Keenan.
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I don't know how these go in order or
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whatever. This comes out in 2026.
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Anyway, but Lauren Lawrence kind of
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amazingly, I'll say sort of brilliant,
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uh, passive aggressive, intentionally
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sarcasm to get you to relax. The the
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I'll get you started. Like, it'd be
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really nice if this sketch would really
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be funny. That'd be a good thing. you
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know those kind of statements which
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Kenan said relaxed him
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>> you know
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>> huh
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>> it either can relax or put pressure I
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think initially it put pressure on me
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when I first got there I was just so
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[ __ ] scared but eventually I got used
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to his sense of humor the dryness of
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just
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>> you know Dana sometimes I remember I was
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behind one of the you know where the
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sketches are so if you walk in for
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people at home and behind the sketch is
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like nothing and so I'm just waiting to
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go in with some goofy outfit on And
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Lauren comes around the corner with a
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they're like 20 seconds. And then I'm
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getting nervous looking at my sides. And
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then Lauren walks with an AMS still like
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casually and he goes you want to try
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tonight. I'm like
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and then he just drifts off and I'm like
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am I not trying ever, you know? And then
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then I botched the sketch because now
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it's in my head. He has his style.
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>> I think it's a little it's kind of
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Lauren being sassy, I think.
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>> Yeah, he's very sassy.
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>> Okay. Lauren, he's got his little dick.
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>> So, we had a sketch called Sassy.
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Remember, Dana with Phil Hartman, who
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Cesily likes.
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>> I Well, right. You've read it.
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>> Let's go back a little bit to your uh
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House How Cesily Strong became Sicily
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Strong. We don't have to spend much time
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on it, but I thought it was very, very
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interesting.
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>> And you amongst other people have
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mentioned, or at least, if this is
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accurate, Phil Hartman as kind of a true
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northstar. Will Will Frell did as well.
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And we all love Phil. and he was
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brilliant. So,
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>> yes.
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>> Well, I I also think listen, I have so
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many like I I feel like I've spent a lot
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of time with you both on the show, like
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watching and and really enjoy. There's
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so many people I love and usually it's
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just when you say one thing in an
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interview, then it kind of
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>> Yeah.
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>> But I mean, I'm I was just a huge fan of
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the show in general. And I do think, you
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know, I've played a lot of straight
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characters on the role and I think he
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just is kind of like the the such a
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great straight man.
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>> Yeah. He'll play he'll he'll take the
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lead if you need it or he'll completely
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play the bass, so to speak. Hold it
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down. Do you Now you actually reenacted.
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I mean, did you like
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>> you had an uncle who was a Broadway
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producer?
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>> Yes. your mom and dad were kind of at a
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certain a very young age kind of saying
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Cesaly maybe this is for you or do I get
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that right like when did that dream
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occur to you? I think I never like for
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real had the dream even at the audition
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was like well I can't I don't want to
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say it out loud even because this is so
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this just doesn't happen and I don't
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want to be disappointed if I got to audi
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you know that I should be so happy that
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I got to audition I got to be here but I
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think I was like when I was three I
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would just perform a lot around the
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house and my parents were like I I don't
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know and they put me in a drama class
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like I hope that's it I hope that
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scratches at it and it's not something
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worse.
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>> I mean, well, kids like it then you keep
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with it. Like, you know, I think every
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kid is like we got into comedy in our
00:15:49
house and everyone just liked comedy,
00:15:52
but I agree with you that when you say
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you're auditioning for something or when
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I started doing standup, you don't want
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people to go, "How'd it go?" And if you
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don't get it, they're like, "Uh." And
00:16:00
then they go, "Oh."
00:16:01
>> Right. Then it's like a bummer thing
00:16:03
when you're like, "Well, I wanted to be
00:16:05
happy about that."
00:16:08
>> That was the idea initially. Well, the
00:16:10
pressure keeps building because it's
00:16:12
going toward 50 years. Like, it was
00:16:14
enough for me to even imagine I could be
00:16:16
on it, but there was only 10 years
00:16:18
before me. Now, a cast member goes,
00:16:20
"Okay, uh, check out the history of the
00:16:22
show before you audition." It's like
00:16:24
months of pouring through so many
00:16:27
sketches, but I could not believe we
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That's a very common theme for people of
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being very humble about auditioning
00:16:34
like, "My god, this is a dream." and and
00:16:36
just some of the darkness of the people
00:16:38
who
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>> it went asymmetrical and they didn't get
00:16:41
it, you know, and it's something and
00:16:43
then they've gone on and done great.
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It's not the one lane to go, but for you
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it was kind of
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>> it definitely and certainly like at the
00:16:50
time I mean and I'd done theater for a
00:16:53
long time before comedy. Uh, and I I
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really only got into comedy after
00:16:58
college. Not that I like I guess like
00:17:02
officially study comedy. I don't know.
00:17:05
>> I know. It's so weird.
00:17:08
>> Didn't count before I get, you know.
00:17:11
>> So, you were in theater all the time,
00:17:12
then you you got busted for pot, got
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arrested. Okay. So, you went to jail.
00:17:15
You're a pot dealer. It says you're some
00:17:18
of these are wrong. A little bit of a
00:17:20
rebel in those days, I guess. Or or was
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everyone
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>> I think kind of maybe that was just the
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thing in the year 2000. I don't know.
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Um, but I defin I was like a I wasn't
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really a bad kid. Um, I really I like I
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got good grades. I liked school, but
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then I also like smoked cigarettes and
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>> Whoa.
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>> You know, I but I was like in with the
00:17:43
theater crowd. That's not like the cool
00:17:45
kids at school.
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>> No, not at all.
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>> You know,
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>> you do you do smoke a good uh cigarette
00:17:52
just but you don't light it, right? But
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with c is it
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>> with cap? was a smoker for a long time.
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So I but and that's always a thing I
00:18:01
look at when I watch people smoke on
00:18:03
camera. So you can tell I've always feel
00:18:05
like the people who have never smoked
00:18:07
always go like
00:18:09
>> like their whole hand
00:18:11
>> and then and then yeah and breathing.
00:18:13
>> I put all the cigarette and my fingers
00:18:15
in my like this.
00:18:16
>> Yeah.
00:18:17
>> That's a very straight hand.
00:18:20
>> So Kathanne is like a redneck quas
00:18:22
alcoholic or whatever.
00:18:24
>> She's just kind of lived hard.
00:18:27
I I've seen them in Montana where I'm
00:18:29
from originally and I go there a lot.
00:18:30
I've seen those people and she's uh that
00:18:34
sound that looked like a fun character
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to play.
00:18:36
>> It's so much fun and I I do think it's
00:18:38
like so many of the people that I just
00:18:41
love in real life and love to watch. And
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actually it was I worked at Green Blatz
00:18:47
um for
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>> right next to the Laugh Factory.
00:18:49
>> Right next to the Laugh Factory. And
00:18:51
this is when I was smoking and I'd go
00:18:53
outside
00:18:54
>> for a cigarette every now and then. And
00:18:55
there was like a local lady in the
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neighborhood who would yell on the
00:19:00
street a lot. And so she sort of was
00:19:02
where it came from. And she said and it'
00:19:04
always be like, "Oh, don't make eye
00:19:05
contact cuz she'll come over here." And
00:19:08
it's that like they they tried to get my
00:19:11
brother Dy and I said, "You're probably
00:19:12
your own breath blown back in your
00:19:14
face." And she was just that kind of
00:19:17
energy attitude.
00:19:19
>> Wow.
00:19:21
>> One of those characters in our
00:19:22
neighborhood, that person. And that's a
00:19:25
such a specific rhythm.
00:19:26
>> Yes. And I think they are everywhere. I
00:19:28
don't think it's like she's got a bit of
00:19:30
an accent, I guess, but I don't think
00:19:32
it's like definitely a southern it's
00:19:35
like in Michigan. It's in it's in a bar
00:19:38
everywhere every state.
00:19:40
>> It's a bit of a tweaker twist to it.
00:19:42
Like you don't know really what you're
00:19:43
getting too and it's a little crazy in
00:19:45
the eye.
00:19:45
>> Yes. And again, I like to think that
00:19:47
there's some teeth interaction, you
00:19:50
know, like missing a tooth or there's a
00:19:52
rotten tooth.
00:19:53
>> Okay. How would that affect the way the
00:19:54
voice interaction impression?
00:19:56
>> Yeah, that would that's kind of like
00:19:58
right she she also got like a mild
00:20:00
speech impediment too
00:20:02
>> cuz there's a missing tooth and the
00:20:05
tongue kind of wanders in there and
00:20:06
there's a there's like a a sore back
00:20:09
there.
00:20:10
>> There's stuff in the mouth.
00:20:11
>> Bitter cheek for our theater students
00:20:13
that listen to this podcast. This is
00:20:16
>> freaking right now.
00:20:18
>> Well, just the idea of pretending okay
00:20:20
his character is missing a tooth. Yeah,
00:20:22
>> I have Cesy has beautiful teeth. I'm
00:20:25
gonna somehow make that part of the
00:20:28
voice that the tooth is missing. Okay,
00:20:30
that was for the theater fans.
00:20:33
>> Well, Dana,
00:20:34
>> one last taste of it so people can
00:20:35
listen to that.
00:20:36
>> Yeah. Well, if you think about if you
00:20:38
try to talk like you have no teeth, you
00:20:40
know how that sometime I think it's sort
00:20:42
of starting from there.
00:20:44
>> Just starting from there. When we did
00:20:46
bye-bye, she said approximately how many
00:20:49
teeth and how big are they
00:20:52
>> does she whiten?
00:20:53
>> Roughly how big centimeter wise just
00:20:55
will help me a little bit.
00:20:57
>> So we're bouncing around. We're I love I
00:21:00
love
00:21:01
>> We're keeping with teeth. That's good.
00:21:03
>> Well, I love that you're willing to uh
00:21:05
kind of explain the the the character
00:21:08
rhythmically and the voice thing. It's
00:21:09
really interesting to me. And that Gemma
00:21:12
Dana who? Benedict Cumberbatch
00:21:15
was American, right?
00:21:16
>> Benedict Cumber Cumberbatch slumber
00:21:18
party.
00:21:18
>> He did like a
00:21:21
>> a Cumberbatch slumber party. He should
00:21:23
host that.
00:21:24
>> Did he You said to him, "Is it more fun
00:21:26
for him to play American accent than
00:21:29
you're taking the Gemma?"
00:21:30
>> I think that was I mean I hope that was
00:21:32
fun for him. Uh it sounded like it was
00:21:35
at the time. He might have been just
00:21:38
doing whatever that week, but I imagine
00:21:40
it would, you know,
00:21:41
>> probably more fun. Yeah.
00:21:42
>> Yeah. He was cool, right, to fun to work
00:21:46
with.
00:21:46
>> So much fun.
00:21:47
>> I did a guest spot there and just met
00:21:49
him. He seemed very uh earnest and and
00:21:52
humble and ready to work and hoping he's
00:21:54
doing a good job.
00:21:54
>> I feel like I don't know if you got this
00:21:57
vibe at all when you guys were on the
00:21:59
show, but if Sorry, my
00:22:01
>> Come on.
00:22:02
>> She's making things up. She's very
00:22:05
dramatic. I'm sorry. The focus wasn't on
00:22:07
her.
00:22:08
>> She's making things up.
00:22:11
>> That's saying, "What is this person
00:22:14
doing with you on the Zoom?" She's like,
00:22:16
"That's enough."
00:22:17
>> Talking to herself.
00:22:18
>> I'm sitting over here. No one's paying
00:22:19
attention.
00:22:25
I was going to say, don't you I feel
00:22:27
like a lot of the um English hosts or
00:22:30
British hosts were sort of so game to
00:22:34
kind of nerd out with us and uh
00:22:37
>> Yeah.
00:22:38
>> And not that American hosts aren't, but
00:22:40
I just felt like across the board kind
00:22:42
of every British host we had almost had
00:22:45
like a giggly
00:22:47
>> like little kid just really would be
00:22:49
willing to do anything.
00:22:51
>> Yeah. Yes. I I find the same thing.
00:22:53
There's something about their their
00:22:54
training, their attitude. Yeah.
00:22:57
>> There's something very potent
00:22:58
>> and kind of like goo silly Goofy, too,
00:23:01
which I thought was a fun thing about
00:23:03
Benedict.
00:23:05
>> Yeah.
00:23:05
>> Cuz while he I guess he does it is kind
00:23:07
of a silly name, but it's also a very
00:23:09
buttoned up name, I would think.
00:23:11
>> Sure. When you when you meet the host in
00:23:13
the Monday meeting, I think that's where
00:23:16
you get a vibe. I mean, they are nervous
00:23:18
for sure. And uh you're nervous. I'm
00:23:20
nervous because I'm starruck most of the
00:23:22
time and you're writer, you're new on
00:23:24
the show, whatever. You know, you're
00:23:25
always starruck and they bring in some
00:23:27
big names. So, I get I think you get a
00:23:30
vibe in a first meeting what they're
00:23:31
going to be like. Are they going to be
00:23:32
fun? Are they up? Some people you pitch
00:23:34
them something, they go, "Sounds great.
00:23:35
Anything."
00:23:36
>> And then they're up for anything and you
00:23:38
go, "This is going to be fun." And some
00:23:39
go, "Oh, I don't know." They're just
00:23:40
tent. You can tell they're tight and
00:23:42
they're like,
00:23:43
>> "Can you do Russian accent?" "Oh, I
00:23:44
don't I don't really do uh accents
00:23:46
really." And then you're like, "Okay."
00:23:48
Uh, and then everyone pitches and when
00:23:50
you walk out of there, you go, I got a
00:23:52
feel for it. I got a feel for it.
00:23:53
>> Yeah. I I feel like I'm not as good at
00:23:56
that. I think I felt like I didn't quite
00:23:59
get to know every host until after a
00:24:02
table read cuz sometimes you just guess
00:24:04
so wrong, you know?
00:24:06
>> That's true. They can really come along.
00:24:07
>> Oh, no. Yeah. Or like you've just given
00:24:10
them something that's so the wrong thing
00:24:12
for them.
00:24:13
>> Were you there? Were you there when
00:24:14
Trump was on? He goes, "I just heard a
00:24:16
story that uh Pete Davidson told and he
00:24:20
said uh is this." He said,
00:24:22
>> "Dana, do you hear this?" He goes,
00:24:23
"First of all, they um
00:24:25
>> that Trump came to read through this."
00:24:27
You can corroborate. I maybe I'm getting
00:24:28
it wrong. I know that. Yeah.
00:24:30
>> And he said like, "I don't really read.
00:24:32
I don't really like I sort of adlib
00:24:34
instead of read sketches." That was part
00:24:35
of it. And then he said,
00:24:36
>> "I get adlib like nobody's business."
00:24:38
And he said, "Let me I don't have my
00:24:41
glasses." And then Lauren said, "You can
00:24:43
use mine." And he's like, "Uh." And then
00:24:45
there was an end of a sketch maybe at
00:24:47
Disneyland where he says uh he says see
00:24:50
you later and then he looks at everyone
00:24:51
else and goes chicken leg. No turkey
00:24:53
legs. Like let's let's go eat turkey
00:24:55
legs.
00:24:55
>> Let me tell you because it's one of my
00:24:57
favorite.
00:24:58
>> Oh, let's
00:24:59
>> Well, here there's a couple things that
00:25:00
happened. He didn't bring his reading
00:25:02
glasses to the table read and was like,
00:25:04
"Oh, I didn't know what that we were
00:25:06
going to be reading." Or something like
00:25:07
that.
00:25:08
>> It was kind of like, "Well, it's the
00:25:09
table read
00:25:10
>> uh
00:25:11
>> with script 45 scripts."
00:25:13
>> Yeah. And so Ivanka was there and there
00:25:15
was a sketch that Ivanka was in that was
00:25:18
set at like medieval times and at the
00:25:21
end of it he goes, "Told you." The
00:25:24
grammatically was written told you like
00:25:27
told you so to her. He's talking to her.
00:25:29
Period. Then it says turkey leg. Like
00:25:32
would you like to go get a turkey leg as
00:25:35
what? That's how one would read that
00:25:36
sentence. Um, but Donald Trump read it
00:25:39
as told you turkey legs to Ivanka like
00:25:43
like he was calling her turkey legs and
00:25:46
then he looked at us like funny
00:25:49
>> okay weirdos and it was like we're not
00:25:51
the you read it wrong and then he also
00:25:54
in the middle of it
00:25:57
>> got a phone call and took his call so we
00:26:00
all just waited. I've never seen anyone
00:26:02
like do that to Lauren yet, you know.
00:26:05
And he went Uh-huh. Oh, that's great.
00:26:07
Uhhuh. My book just went to number one
00:26:10
and we all just went, "Wow, wow." Had to
00:26:15
applaud just the moment, just the fact
00:26:18
you would interrupt the table read to
00:26:20
take your very real call.
00:26:25
>> My book just went to number one. And I
00:26:28
know you got to do some things, but I
00:26:29
think I deserve a little bit of
00:26:31
applause.
00:26:32
And then he he he asked to be put into
00:26:35
the Drake
00:26:37
>> the hotline bling sket the dad I think
00:26:40
it was like the dad dance or something
00:26:43
that
00:26:44
>> I remember his funny little weird
00:26:46
>> asked to be put in that.
00:26:47
>> Yeah.
00:26:48
>> And then the other thing he did was they
00:26:50
did a giving tree sketch and Jenna
00:26:53
always tells the story our stage manager
00:26:55
because he's like that's not a real
00:26:57
book. And she kept saying, "What do you
00:26:59
mean that's a book?" And he just did not
00:27:02
believe that the giving tree as he was
00:27:04
in a full tree costume. And I do have a
00:27:06
picture from my monitor in my dressing
00:27:10
room from rehearsal of just his face in
00:27:12
this tree costume.
00:27:14
>> The giving tree just a rumor.
00:27:17
>> Did not believe obviously was not uh
00:27:20
brought up on the giving tree.
00:27:22
>> I know books. I've read a lot of books.
00:27:24
I see books. I've heard about books. So,
00:27:27
I know when there's a book and it's not
00:27:28
a book. Excuse me. I know a lot of
00:27:30
books. Excuse me. Let me finish. I know
00:27:32
about books. Let me tell you. Um, no one
00:27:35
like him. What? Everything's been said
00:27:37
about him, but they're he's a one-off.
00:27:39
Uh,
00:27:40
>> those table reads are cool. I mean, you
00:27:42
can learn a lot. I remember the first
00:27:43
Alec Baldwin. He was great. Like, I
00:27:46
didn't know what you know, you don't
00:27:46
know what you're getting into. And
00:27:47
sketch after sketch, you start to go,
00:27:49
"Oh my god, these are pretty much cold
00:27:50
reads."
00:27:51
>> Like, they've never seen a sketch and
00:27:53
they're walking in. Someone's going,
00:27:55
"Hey, mine sketch is number 41." And if
00:27:58
you could play it like quiet at the
00:27:59
beginning, but then you build and
00:28:00
they're like, "Right." And you know,
00:28:01
they're trying to absorb it all. You
00:28:02
don't know what the [ __ ] going on,
00:28:04
>> right?
00:28:05
>> Hours. John Goodman always
00:28:07
>> learning eight songs.
00:28:09
>> Oh, yeah. They have to sing a song. The
00:28:11
hosting is so complicated.
00:28:14
>> Yes. And I think they're mainly just
00:28:15
kind of in shock. I'd like I thought of
00:28:18
my role as kind of an RA throughout the
00:28:20
week where you're just sort of always
00:28:23
being encouraging like how do you feel?
00:28:25
Great. That's normal. I think that's
00:28:27
normal and by Saturday you're going to
00:28:29
be Yeah.
00:28:30
>> It's very funny when because they're
00:28:32
walking into your turf and they can be
00:28:34
kind of nervous and I I with a
00:28:36
superstar, you know, like a big movie
00:28:38
star and you can tell they're out of
00:28:39
their element and you're kind of going,
00:28:41
you're doing great and you know, just
00:28:43
read it off the card. Just read it
00:28:44
straight off the card. putting it in my
00:28:47
head that they need encouragement from
00:28:48
me. I'm probably like wearing a blanket
00:28:51
and slippers. My life isn't I don't have
00:28:54
it all together. I'm like, you're doing
00:28:56
>> I was doing a guest spot, I think,
00:28:58
church lady update because I'd done
00:29:00
Fallon and then Lauren would always say,
00:29:02
"You'll be doing church radio on
00:29:04
Saturday." Well, okay, I'll call my
00:29:06
travel agent. And then it was Benedict
00:29:08
Bunkerber. Uh,
00:29:11
I remember afterwards just at the good
00:29:14
nights he goes, "Was it was was pretty
00:29:16
good." Okay. Right. Was okay. I go, "No,
00:29:18
it was great." Great. But funny me
00:29:20
telling you, I can't, you know,
00:29:23
>> I wonder if anyone's ever going, "Nah,
00:29:26
>> it was pretty good. You could have done
00:29:27
better."
00:29:29
>> I wouldn't I wouldn't
00:29:30
>> I mean to any host would you ever even
00:29:32
if they're bombing, you're going you're
00:29:34
doing great. You got to keep them
00:29:35
upbeat, you know?
00:29:36
>> Right.
00:29:36
>> Just never go real on them.
00:29:39
No.
00:29:40
>> So, can can we circle back around how
00:29:41
you your audition? I just want to know
00:29:44
the pro. So, you just to jump around a
00:29:47
little bit. You went to Cal Arts.
00:29:48
>> Cal Arts for theater.
00:29:51
>> So, so you're studying, you're getting
00:29:53
better, you're you're starting to get
00:29:54
funny, and then you go to uh Chicago.
00:29:57
>> I went Yes. I So, I stayed in LA for
00:30:00
like nine months, seven to nine months
00:30:02
or something. Uh,
00:30:05
>> and I was just kind of like, I don't
00:30:07
think this is going to be the way I do
00:30:11
this business if I'm going to do it. It
00:30:13
was just sort of I didn't really
00:30:14
understand how any of it worked. And
00:30:16
business-wise, like couldn't get an a.
00:30:18
It was just I felt bad as this business
00:30:21
can feel sometimes. And so, uh, I took a
00:30:25
class with the Groundlings though and I
00:30:26
really liked it. And so I was like,
00:30:28
well, I'll move back to Chicago and rent
00:30:31
will be a lot cheaper. And every now and
00:30:33
then my mom can buy me groceries and uh
00:30:36
I and I went to Second City. I started
00:30:38
taking classes.
00:30:39
>> Second city.
00:30:41
>> Yeah.
00:30:41
>> And what was the vibe difference when
00:30:42
you got to Chicago? LA it just feels
00:30:45
more pressure and just weirder, right?
00:30:48
Chicago is still a Midwestern
00:30:50
>> city. Yeah. My family was in Chicago and
00:30:52
Yeah. Yeah, I do. I enjoy the Midwest.
00:30:54
Uh
00:30:56
>> a lot more. It's a lot a lot chunkier
00:31:00
people who are more friendlier who are
00:31:03
friendlier in public. I don't know. Uh
00:31:05
>> chunk chunky and friendly. You have a
00:31:07
slight you have a slight accent too.
00:31:10
>> Slight accent. You like to eat
00:31:12
>> like to laugh and drink. You have to
00:31:15
because it's so cold. You have to find
00:31:17
ways to enjoy life while you can.
00:31:20
>> Um
00:31:21
>> but
00:31:22
>> and in LA it's just
00:31:23
>> Yeah. And actually I loved my class at
00:31:26
the grounds. I really had a good group.
00:31:28
Um,
00:31:30
>> but I I definitely I was like there's
00:31:32
just there's so much more of that kind
00:31:34
of especially that comedy sketch and
00:31:37
improv. This is just like that's so much
00:31:39
of what Chicago is.
00:31:41
>> Yeah. Uh, and I was I took classes at IO
00:31:44
eventually was doing I did some shows at
00:31:46
the annoyance and you know then we would
00:31:49
do a couple of those shows for
00:31:50
>> Olympic.
00:31:51
>> You buy you uh rent out the theater and
00:31:54
beg your friends to come for $5 tickets.
00:31:58
You may have five audience members that
00:31:59
night.
00:32:00
>> Bring your show. Bring your show. And
00:32:01
when did you you know like had you met
00:32:04
people either been at Second City, got
00:32:05
on SNL or coming back to say hello or
00:32:08
then it became sort of in your purview
00:32:11
as they say SNL is a possibility.
00:32:14
>> It still it was not it was like a
00:32:17
possibility but again like I wouldn't be
00:32:19
so foolish as to say that out loud. It's
00:32:21
just such an outlandish
00:32:24
you know like that's not going to happen
00:32:25
to me. Um, and I knew that they did
00:32:28
auditions, but even you had to audition
00:32:30
for the audition, but and I was like in
00:32:32
the box office at IO one night when Sha
00:32:34
was like, "You should do this." And I
00:32:37
thought, "Well, I don't know if I'm
00:32:38
ready." And I hear I heard like if you
00:32:40
audition for Lauren once and he doesn't
00:32:42
and you don't get in, he never wants to
00:32:44
see you again or something. You know,
00:32:46
there's all the
00:32:46
>> I've heard that
00:32:47
>> the things that people pass around and
00:32:49
like you can't get pregnant in a hot
00:32:50
tub, you can only audition once.
00:32:53
Just the info kids pass on.
00:32:55
>> You can't get pregnant.
00:32:56
Yeah.
00:32:57
>> Urban myths or whatever. Yeah.
00:32:59
>> And so, but then I took a um a workshop
00:33:03
uh that was what was it? Characters and
00:33:06
impressions or something cuz I didn't do
00:33:08
a lot of impressions and I never really
00:33:10
thought of myself as an impression
00:33:12
person. Um
00:33:14
>> but I got I think I put together six six
00:33:18
things, you know, but I and I kept them
00:33:20
all short. And I think that's what
00:33:21
helped me in the end was cuz you you
00:33:23
would see some people.
00:33:25
>> Yes. And you're like some people this is
00:33:27
very indulgent and al you know and
00:33:30
everybody's doing similar you know
00:33:32
there's the old I forget his name. Saman
00:33:35
>> Elliot who was it you know the the old
00:33:37
guy with the mustache that everybody
00:33:39
did.
00:33:39
>> Sam Elliott.
00:33:39
>> Sam Elliott. Yeah. Was like well eight
00:33:42
of you are going to do Sam Elliott. So
00:33:44
you don't need to do like a three minute
00:33:46
monologue.
00:33:48
I like when they say like um I think
00:33:50
this is a good trick like Dana I've
00:33:51
learned a lot about impressions from
00:33:53
Dana and people don't realize the longer
00:33:56
you do it the harder it is because you
00:33:58
have a few hooks.
00:33:59
>> Yes that they go oh that sounds like
00:34:01
them but the longer you go it doesn't.
00:34:03
And when sometimes you ask people to add
00:34:06
lib as a character, they go, "No, I want
00:34:08
I I know that's so much harder because
00:34:10
you want to write something that
00:34:12
includes the hooks,
00:34:14
>> right? And where you and yes, like your
00:34:16
thing in and your I know I sound like
00:34:18
them here, but I can't say the word
00:34:20
chalk." Is that word?
00:34:22
>> So So uh so you're going to audition at
00:34:26
at IO or or IO at IO. And to your mind,
00:34:31
you were in there was maybe 10 of you or
00:34:33
whatever. And so you were strategizing
00:34:35
knowing who was maybe going to come on
00:34:37
before you so you were not redundant.
00:34:40
And then who was there? Was it
00:34:42
Lieutenants? You know, Lauren's minions
00:34:44
basically.
00:34:45
>> I Well, I know.
00:34:45
>> Was Lauren there or them?
00:34:46
>> Lauren was there. I think Lindsay
00:34:49
Shookus was there. Aaron Doyle, I think,
00:34:52
was there. Colin was there.
00:34:55
>> Oh, really?
00:34:56
>> Pen. the whole cannon of people who can
00:34:59
decide whether you're going to be on
00:35:00
Saturday Night Live audience. Yeah, they
00:35:02
were all there. But I mean, I didn't
00:35:03
know who anyone was except Lauren.
00:35:05
Really?
00:35:06
>> I get nervous. When you just said that,
00:35:08
I was like getting nervous going, "Oh my
00:35:09
god." Walking out going, "Here we go.
00:35:11
This is all that matters for everything.
00:35:14
They'll never see you again." That's
00:35:16
true. You think
00:35:17
>> if they did not like you, then why would
00:35:19
they see you right away again? They It
00:35:21
takes a long time.
00:35:22
>> What did you do? Did you have any
00:35:24
methodology for dealing with that
00:35:26
pressure or when you got out there you
00:35:28
got a laugh and felt comfortable or what
00:35:30
happened?
00:35:30
>> Yeah, I think uh
00:35:33
I got laughs so that's I mean really
00:35:35
there's really I don't know what the
00:35:37
strategy would even be for that.
00:35:39
Sometimes you just have to go do go do
00:35:43
it. You know it's like you just trying
00:35:46
to control your nerves and actually have
00:35:48
fun is the is the goal. And then how do
00:35:50
you try not to try? Right. I'm I
00:35:53
probably looked like I was trying, but I
00:35:55
think they forgive it. But I was also
00:35:58
like I'm comfortable around
00:36:00
>> an audience at this point. This is
00:36:02
certain my family was there. So I
00:36:05
imagine if I hadn't gotten any laughs,
00:36:08
it would have felt terrible, but it
00:36:10
luckily that didn't happen.
00:36:12
>> It's also your home theater. It's not
00:36:13
like at at the daily on 8H. 8H is barren
00:36:17
>> and it's a super friendly audience,
00:36:19
right? And everybody's laughing cuz you
00:36:21
know it's like in all of our best
00:36:23
interests for anyone to succeed.
00:36:26
>> Mhm. So what was your first uh ladies
00:36:28
and gentlemen Cesley Strong do you
00:36:30
remember your first bit or your first
00:36:31
laugh or first character that you did
00:36:35
and
00:36:35
>> uh
00:36:36
>> or an impression or what did you start
00:36:38
with? Hello.
00:36:39
>> I think well we did this
00:36:40
>> hard to start sometimes.
00:36:41
>> Yes, it was hard to start. I think the
00:36:45
biggest was like we did girl at a party
00:36:48
kind of two weeks in it was during one
00:36:50
of those election.
00:36:51
>> Oh, you came in with that one.
00:36:55
So,
00:36:55
>> another thing that you do these long
00:36:57
names and characters you're talking
00:36:58
about girl you wish you hadn't started a
00:37:00
conversation
00:37:01
>> with at a party. It's the it's kind of
00:37:03
the which is one of your first big hits
00:37:06
on the one that's everyone knows how to
00:37:09
say the name. Uh, I was actually was
00:37:12
trying to write an update character with
00:37:14
Colin Jo. And I did do for my audition.
00:37:17
I did a little boy that I overheard at
00:37:20
Mother's Day restaurant in Forest Park,
00:37:22
Illinois. Who was
00:37:24
>> But it was my the intro was half of the
00:37:26
>> Is that the name of it?
00:37:28
>> Yeah. Yeah. It was like a chubby little
00:37:30
boy that I overheard at.
00:37:33
>> That was awesome. See you next Saturday
00:37:37
or something like that.
00:37:40
Just that much is funny. You would get
00:37:43
it. You get any more the boy. You see
00:37:46
the boy.
00:37:47
>> Yeah. You see that little boy
00:37:49
>> loved his pancakes. Uh, so I I was
00:37:52
trying to write something with Colin and
00:37:54
I kept sort of being like and that's you
00:37:57
know that's a good one because it's
00:37:58
important for society or something and
00:38:00
was
00:38:01
>> we were joking around like that and I
00:38:03
remember Jay Pharaoh was writing
00:38:06
something but you just heard him yelling
00:38:08
the n-word in the hallway and so I think
00:38:11
I said and can I say the nword in mine
00:38:14
and so that was girl at a party's bit
00:38:17
too she was always like a little just
00:38:20
assumes that she's got the right to do
00:38:22
everything too.
00:38:24
And I had I'd like heard a story from a
00:38:27
male friend of mine uh who there was
00:38:30
like a girl to bar and I'd heard a
00:38:32
couple like a couple people in my life
00:38:33
were telling me, you know, they'd like
00:38:35
seen a cute girl to bar something and
00:38:37
then she said something racist or
00:38:40
offensive just kind of out of nowhere
00:38:41
and it was like what? Where did that
00:38:43
even come from? Yeah.
00:38:44
>> So, wait a minute. So, you actually use
00:38:46
the real word on your audition?
00:38:47
>> Oh, no. I've never Okay. No, no.
00:38:50
>> Yeah. No, I I didn't know. So, this Jay
00:38:53
Farah was screaming.
00:38:54
>> He used the real word. I certain No, no.
00:38:56
I said, "Can I use the N-word, you know,
00:38:58
which I think he did. I think we did put
00:39:01
that in a an early girl at a party."
00:39:04
>> Did Did Jay Frell and you get the show
00:39:07
on the same night or
00:39:08
>> No, he was uh I can't remember if he was
00:39:11
a year I think it was two years before
00:39:13
me.
00:39:13
>> Mhm. Oh, okay. So, he was already in the
00:39:15
cast when you auditioned. Yes.
00:39:17
>> Okay. And he just happened to be
00:39:18
screaming in the hallway. I thought it
00:39:20
was from nerves that he
00:39:20
>> scream.
00:39:21
>> No, no, no. Jay was Yeah.
00:39:23
>> God
00:39:25
himself. Yes.
00:39:27
>> Yeah. Did you get the show from that
00:39:29
audition?
00:39:30
>> I Well, I So I we had like speed dating
00:39:33
the next day. They asked nine of us to
00:39:35
go to the hotel where Lauren and his
00:39:38
peeps were and I there were like two
00:39:40
long tables. So, I think I had an
00:39:43
awkward conversation
00:39:45
with everyone for 5 minutes. The only
00:39:48
thing I remember saying was like, I love
00:39:50
and I love Trader Joe's, you know,
00:39:53
cucumbers and wine.
00:39:55
>> Yeah. I don't know.
00:39:58
>> And they're all just staring. Was anyone
00:39:59
laughing in a friendly way or were they
00:40:02
just looking at you?
00:40:03
>> I I feel like they were encouraging, but
00:40:07
>> I'm sure they know you're nervous. I'm
00:40:09
sure they know everyone that walks in
00:40:10
that door is like saying stupid [ __ ]
00:40:12
>> right? Right.
00:40:14
>> It's impossible not to. So, you do the
00:40:16
audition, you do this little like meet
00:40:18
up with them and then what happens? Did
00:40:20
you get a phone call? Do you wait 6
00:40:22
months or
00:40:23
>> I got another phone call I think
00:40:25
the next day or something that to fly
00:40:28
out for a screen test with and it was an
00:40:30
all girls screen test and 80 was in the
00:40:35
etc show at um Second City and so she
00:40:38
got she got flown out from that too. So
00:40:42
80 and I it was what was nice was 80 and
00:40:44
I really did every step together. Uh, so
00:40:47
we went to that first
00:40:49
>> screen test. Yeah. And I knew her. I was
00:40:51
a fan of hers honestly um in Chicago. I
00:40:55
was actually I think I underststudied
00:40:57
her at that point too on uh her role on
00:41:00
etc. And so we had a we did a our first
00:41:03
screen test in New York and then went
00:41:05
home and kind of didn't think about Oh
00:41:07
no. Then the day I I flew back and I got
00:41:10
a call driving back from the airport to
00:41:12
fly out to New York again to just sort
00:41:15
of sit in the office and talk to them.
00:41:18
>> It's Lauren. Pick up.
00:41:22
>> Guess who? Guess who?
00:41:24
>> Hit me on the hip.
00:41:26
>> Can you do the person who you don't want
00:41:28
to see with they're trying to converse
00:41:30
with you? The lady in an Uber that
00:41:32
doesn't have an Uber app but says she
00:41:34
does. He like the little fat boy, but
00:41:39
>> can he can he be fatter?
00:41:41
>> So, after the New York screen test, were
00:41:44
you starting to think maybe I'm going to
00:41:45
get this? I mean, did you call your
00:41:47
parents? Who do you call?
00:41:48
>> Yeah.
00:41:50
>> I I think I definitely called my
00:41:52
parents. Um, and and probably only my my
00:41:56
parents would be the one because again
00:41:58
it was like I don't I just don't want to
00:42:00
say too much and jinx it or or make
00:42:04
people think that I think I'm going to
00:42:06
get this. Yeah.
00:42:07
>> Right. But you did check in with them
00:42:09
just because they knew you when you were
00:42:12
three being friends. So they've known me
00:42:14
for a while. So Right.
00:42:16
>> But you probably downplayed it like I
00:42:17
don't know if I'll get it but I did this
00:42:19
this and this. And of course I'm they
00:42:21
probably at that point assume you'll get
00:42:24
it. I don't know. Maybe they did. I
00:42:25
don't know.
00:42:25
>> It's pretty far down the road.
00:42:27
>> Yeah. It's such a Right. And especially
00:42:30
to go from like I'm
00:42:33
underststudying Second City and touring
00:42:36
and like it's just such a big jump from
00:42:40
that to now I'm on TV
00:42:43
>> and even you know like living in Chicago
00:42:45
versus New York.
00:42:47
Well, just going in that building, the
00:42:50
30 Rock and seeing 8H for the first time
00:42:53
is hallowed ground and right all of it
00:42:55
would give you a slight stomach ache or
00:42:57
something or
00:42:58
>> diarrhea inducing and you have to kind
00:43:00
of wait forever, you know, as there was
00:43:03
I don't even know how many people were
00:43:05
in that screen test. You can just sort
00:43:07
of like sort of hear people in the
00:43:08
hallway and kind of like I don't know
00:43:10
when it's my I don't know when I'm up.
00:43:12
>> It's torture.
00:43:14
>> You're there for like eight hours and
00:43:15
someone just goes now. Those were the
00:43:17
longest days of my life. Yeah.
00:43:19
>> Yeah. It's that's scary. There's a
00:43:21
waiting thing Dana and I talk about like
00:43:23
it's waiting to see Lauren. There's some
00:43:25
weird thing about it's always waiting
00:43:27
and it just drives you bananas.
00:43:28
>> Yeah. And then your anxiety does kind of
00:43:31
build up. I'm like I hope I'm going to
00:43:33
Can I stand by the time I'm out there?
00:43:41
I think when Lauren gets someone like
00:43:42
you on the other side of it, they're
00:43:45
thinking like you probably see this now.
00:43:48
You've done second, you've done IO,
00:43:50
you've done all these things. It's sort
00:43:51
of a safe bet at some point like you're
00:43:53
not just out of nowhere, plucked out of
00:43:56
nowhere. They they do like to hear about
00:43:58
you. I think they need a little buzz
00:44:01
maybe for one season and then they hear
00:44:03
your name again. And if they keep
00:44:04
hearing it, they go, "We got to check
00:44:06
her out." And it's almost done deal
00:44:08
then, you know, at the beginning.
00:44:10
>> Yeah. Well, I certainly had no
00:44:14
I don't I there was never I never
00:44:16
thought I was safe. You know what I
00:44:18
mean?
00:44:18
>> Sure. On your end. Yeah.
00:44:19
>> Right. On my end. And I I think like I
00:44:22
don't know that there was any buzz
00:44:25
necessarily, but although I'm sure Sha
00:44:27
probably said something, but I think I
00:44:30
was a bit out of nowhere. And so I I
00:44:34
went for two screen tests. So then we
00:44:36
went again at the end of the summer and
00:44:37
Lauren told me he said my second one was
00:44:40
funnier than the first and he said
00:44:42
that's why he hired me.
00:44:45
>> How crazy relive
00:44:47
>> you almost get more nervous later on.
00:44:49
Weird
00:44:51
>> I mean but you look at your you prepared
00:44:54
yourself for whatever reason you did
00:44:56
took all the steps so that it would be a
00:44:59
possibility that you would get on
00:45:01
Saturday Night Live. So, let's move into
00:45:03
now you're on Saturday Night Live. Yeah.
00:45:05
Does anyone telling you anything? Are
00:45:08
you sharing an office with 80 or what's
00:45:09
going on?
00:45:10
>> I actually I shared an office with Joe
00:45:12
Kelly who now does Ted Lasso with Jason
00:45:16
and I think he was there for Jason's
00:45:18
last season and he was so uh he really
00:45:22
like took me under his wing and um he
00:45:24
was sort of our social coordinator too.
00:45:27
So, we went out a lot my first couple
00:45:29
years, you know, we'd go out every
00:45:30
Wednesday. I went to Amsterdam with a
00:45:33
bunch of people.
00:45:34
>> Restaurant. Where was it? I think I'm
00:45:37
sure I went there.
00:45:38
>> Amsterdam. The the
00:45:40
>> Yeah. country.
00:45:41
>> Europe.
00:45:42
>> Yes.
00:45:42
>> Oh, the real Amsterdam. I thought it was
00:45:44
I thought we went to Amsterdam's which
00:45:47
was I thought a restaurant I went to on
00:45:48
Amsterdam.
00:45:49
>> We had our our table in the back of
00:45:51
Amsterdam.
00:45:52
>> You guys would go to Amsterdam every
00:45:53
Wednesday night.
00:45:54
>> Every Wednesday night. I swear I'm
00:45:56
telling the truth.
00:45:57
>> All the way.
00:45:58
>> You could take Paul's jet. It'll be
00:46:00
fine. Just be back for read through.
00:46:03
>> They're wild. You got to let them.
00:46:04
>> So, you get on SNL and you start
00:46:06
traveling the world.
00:46:06
>> They're wild.
00:46:08
>> Yeah, I Yeah, I had to uh I didn't I
00:46:12
wasn't able to pay my health insurance
00:46:14
premium until January, though. So, I did
00:46:16
I think it was like my first tax return.
00:46:19
That's when I got to go to Amsterdam.
00:46:21
>> Oo,
00:46:23
pretty cool. Yeah, I I saw that you
00:46:26
at a certain point you were on update.
00:46:30
How is that how is that true? And how
00:46:31
does that discussion happen? And then
00:46:33
you wanted to go back to sketches more.
00:46:35
It's time consuming, right?
00:46:36
>> Yeah, it was. And it was um so I went on
00:46:40
I went on with Seth for a bit which and
00:46:42
it was really easy then because Seth had
00:46:44
been doing it and he had done it with
00:46:45
the with Amy before so he sort of knew
00:46:48
how to do that duo. And then Seth left
00:46:52
and then I knew Colin was coming in and
00:46:54
I think it was just especi
00:47:14
like
00:47:15
>> I I just felt it was going to take more
00:47:18
work than I that would take away from
00:47:20
getting to do sketches and it's sort of
00:47:22
like I really I liked being a guest on
00:47:25
update and felt like I had had much more
00:47:28
success doing that than than being a
00:47:32
host is like the straight man.
00:47:33
>> Yeah. And I kind of like I just I was
00:47:35
like the it's it was a cool honor. It
00:47:39
was great and there was a great team
00:47:40
writing jokes. It feels like a whole
00:47:42
different world at SNL like the update
00:47:45
room versus
00:47:46
>> Yeah.
00:47:47
>> sketches. But I certainly was like, I
00:47:49
want to be in the sketch world more and
00:47:51
I don't want people to not write me into
00:47:53
sketches because of Update and uh and
00:47:57
and knowing that it was going to need
00:47:59
all this work was sort of we had a lot
00:48:01
of talks about it and it was like I just
00:48:04
I would rather go back to just being in
00:48:06
the cast then. Like I think it's it
00:48:09
could have been done maybe if we had if
00:48:11
it were just more a stat if we had like
00:48:13
a rhythm already, but we just didn't. It
00:48:16
was so new and it was, you know, when
00:48:17
the audience when they lose someone, it
00:48:20
just everything takes a bit more work.
00:48:21
So, it was getting used to not having
00:48:23
Seth, then they're kind of like they
00:48:25
don't like you already because you're
00:48:26
not Seth. And it was
00:48:27
>> Yeah.
00:48:28
>> I just was like, I don't want that
00:48:29
uphill battle when it already is so
00:48:32
tough to sort of figure out your place
00:48:35
at that at that place.
00:48:36
>> And uh we're all the better for it
00:48:38
because your range is extraordinary. And
00:48:40
so it seems like if it if Update usurped
00:48:43
you and your energy and time, we
00:48:46
wouldn't have all these great
00:48:47
characters. You're just a natural sketch
00:48:49
player. And you're someone who you want
00:48:51
on your team. I mean, Lauren must have
00:48:52
loved it when he discovered you could
00:48:55
play this, you could do this, you could
00:48:56
do that. You know, it's great to have
00:48:58
somebody with that kind of range in your
00:49:00
sketch. Well, and I think cuz right I
00:49:01
don't know that you know now being there
00:49:03
for a while you sort of see how all how
00:49:07
how many different types of people do
00:49:09
this show and make it work and you're
00:49:11
always like there's people who
00:49:12
>> are standups and there you know it's
00:49:15
just like not everybody comes from like
00:49:17
a theater
00:49:18
>> background so you're only going to have
00:49:21
you're more valuable probably out there
00:49:22
in sketches. I I definitely think I was
00:49:25
more valuable in sketches than at the
00:49:27
desk cuz I'm also I'm not a standup and
00:49:29
so it was it was just wasn't
00:49:32
>> as natural news castery and it's good
00:49:34
jokes and they have great joke writers
00:49:35
usually on update always
00:49:36
>> great joke writers
00:49:37
>> I think I I think Dana is this possible
00:49:39
I was only there six years but I think I
00:49:41
lived through
00:49:42
>> doing bits with Dennis on update
00:49:45
>> Kevin Nean Norm and Colin Quinn
00:49:48
>> probably yeah
00:49:50
>> was finishing then then Kevin had a long
00:49:52
run then Norm and he got fired
00:49:55
>> and then Colin and when I left. Yeah.
00:49:57
>> Wow.
00:49:58
>> Crazy. And it is hard.
00:50:00
>> And Colin always says
00:50:02
>> they were mad Norm got fired and sort of
00:50:03
took it out on Colin.
00:50:05
>> Yes. Right. That would be hard to step
00:50:07
into right after. Right.
00:50:09
>> Because it wasn't it's not Colin's
00:50:11
fault. He's great. But you're just
00:50:13
following. They're like, "Wait, where's
00:50:14
Norm? What happened?"
00:50:15
>> And uh
00:50:17
>> that's true. And Colin talked about that
00:50:19
he felt he should be sort of normike in
00:50:22
a way like
00:50:23
>> he's very aphable and friendly and he
00:50:25
wishes he'd been more like that. Anyway,
00:50:27
everybody has regrets but you're the
00:50:29
longest running female cast member just
00:50:31
a tenur
00:50:32
>> a fun stat. Although I'd like I I do
00:50:35
think if someone like officially ran the
00:50:38
numbers I I because Kate
00:50:40
>> like number of episodes
00:50:41
>> number of episodes because I Kate was
00:50:44
there like five episodes before uh 80
00:50:48
and I got there
00:50:49
>> and then right
00:50:50
>> I missed some because of other shows. So
00:50:54
I I I felt like I was pretty darn close
00:50:57
to 80 and Kate like I think we're all
00:51:00
>> leaning at the tape. We'll go back. I
00:51:03
would call it a wash and just
00:51:05
>> Yeah, it's essentially around a decade.
00:51:07
>> Did you just rip the band-aid off and
00:51:08
leave? You didn't make it a long
00:51:10
goodbye, right? I think yours was sort
00:51:11
of out of the blue.
00:51:12
>> Well, it it was it wasn't really though.
00:51:14
It just wasn't a thing I was like uh
00:51:18
broadcasting to everyone. But when I
00:51:20
went back that year, the, you know, the
00:51:22
way I went back when talking to Lauren
00:51:24
was like, I would like to leave this
00:51:27
year and I think uh Christmas would be a
00:51:30
great time because it's a happier show
00:51:32
and it would it, you know, I'm going to
00:51:34
be so sad to leave. So hopefully that'll
00:51:38
>> end of this conversation.
00:51:40
>> He gets attached to his cast members.
00:51:43
>> Maybe stay till February.
00:51:45
>> I think I think they would. Yes, I'm
00:51:47
sure he would have. It was probably like
00:51:49
we don't we're not going to talk about
00:51:51
it and broadcast it because I think
00:51:53
there was still a lot of people holding
00:51:55
out hope that I would not leave.
00:51:58
>> Was it when you did you go to Schmegadun
00:52:00
and then come back? Is that what
00:52:02
happened
00:52:02
>> in 2020? I didune that fall and got back
00:52:07
in December and then last year I did a
00:52:09
play I did um
00:52:11
>> this one woman show in LA so I missed
00:52:14
the first Tomlin one. Right.
00:52:15
>> Yes. Yes.
00:52:16
>> Wow. Wow, another long title.
00:52:18
>> It was right. Exactly. I'm comfortable
00:52:20
with
00:52:21
>> filling those shoes. Did you Did you
00:52:23
hear from Lily at all?
00:52:24
>> She uh she came to opening night,
00:52:27
>> actually, which I found out that day.
00:52:29
And that was that was I think maybe that
00:52:32
was even more nerve-wracking than having
00:52:34
Lauren
00:52:35
>> at that audition.
00:52:37
>> And Lauren asked that, "Yeah, make sure
00:52:39
you're there on the opening night, Lily,
00:52:40
but don't let her know until like a
00:52:42
couple hours before because like she
00:52:44
works very well under pressure."
00:52:46
Yes.
00:52:46
>> But you probably scored. I'm sure she
00:52:48
was incredibly sweet. I would assume
00:52:50
>> she was wonderful. I mean, I think it
00:52:52
was I got to uh get applause for her at
00:52:56
the uh curtain call, which was really I
00:53:00
was kind of like, can I get through
00:53:01
this? Can I say these things without
00:53:03
weeping? But it was very cool having her
00:53:05
there. And then unfortunately Jane
00:53:08
Wagner who wrote the show didn't get to
00:53:10
the show but we did a I went and saw her
00:53:13
at her house which was really cool
00:53:15
seeing all her and Lily's it was like a
00:53:17
museum really. So they have all their
00:53:19
things
00:53:20
>> in search of intelligent life.
00:53:22
>> Search of sign the search for signs of
00:53:24
intelligent life in the universe. And
00:53:26
yet for short, I know people call it is
00:53:28
FF A J QQQ F.
00:53:31
>> Yeah, just for short.
00:53:32
>> I just call it I call it the spaceship
00:53:35
monologue.
00:53:36
>> The space.
00:53:37
>> Well, by the way, I saw
00:53:40
>> I saw
00:53:42
>> You can't not do Adam Sandler when you
00:53:44
say that.
00:53:46
>> Yes. I thought you were saying Chicago,
00:53:48
>> which is our second. And it looks very
00:53:50
involved like that. Is it a hard show? I
00:53:53
think you produce maybe also, but is it
00:53:55
hard? Cuz it's first of all, very
00:53:57
unique, which is so hard to do these
00:53:59
days. And then the dancing and the
00:54:02
singing and the and the jokes in the
00:54:03
songs, all that stuff has got to be
00:54:05
tough.
00:54:06
>> Oh, definitely. I think but there's a
00:54:09
lot of outside rehearsals. Um, there was
00:54:12
a great we have a great choreographer
00:54:14
and great music team. So, it was sort of
00:54:16
that it all felt like we were once you
00:54:18
were shooting it felt very ready.
00:54:20
>> Mhm. Because especially that first
00:54:23
season we was such strict co rules so we
00:54:26
really were so limited with
00:54:28
>> how much time we got with each other.
00:54:32
>> Tell what it is for our our viewers.
00:54:34
Yeah. You and Keegan Michael Key I love
00:54:37
his name star together and then go
00:54:40
ahead.
00:54:40
>> Yes. So we play a couple that are
00:54:43
they're sort of a newer couple. They've
00:54:45
fallen, they met and have a great thing
00:54:47
and then they're sort of at a rut in
00:54:49
their relationship and arguing a lot and
00:54:51
they my care Melissa finds a hike for
00:54:56
them to sort of it's like a romance hike
00:54:58
or a love building hikeling a rekindling
00:55:01
hike and they go on it and they're
00:55:04
arguing and caught in a rainstorm and
00:55:07
somehow they end up in this magical town
00:55:10
called Schmegadun. Uh, but they find out
00:55:13
it's it's a musical every day. They've
00:55:16
gotten themselves trapped in an
00:55:18
oldfashioned musical.
00:55:19
>> They can't get out
00:55:20
>> and they can't get out until they find
00:55:22
true love.
00:55:23
>> That's a good That's a good really
00:55:26
interesting setup and it's really well
00:55:29
done. I mean, I was watching going just
00:55:31
knowing a little bit about production
00:55:32
being on movies and how hard everything
00:55:34
is just when I do my basic crummy movies
00:55:36
to have this with like so many things
00:55:39
happening and so many jokes written and
00:55:41
just how it's got to be so tight.
00:55:43
Everyone looks great. Very good job.
00:55:45
>> I will say the second the second season
00:55:47
there are more uh looks and worlds
00:55:51
covered. So I think it was some we had
00:55:53
the same amount of time but I think like
00:55:55
20 more pages or something. So, it's
00:55:57
>> felt a bit more frantic, but we got it.
00:56:00
We got it done and it's I think it's I
00:56:04
think it's pretty fun
00:56:05
>> in Canada.
00:56:06
>> Oh, you do?
00:56:07
>> Yeah.
00:56:08
>> In Canada.
00:56:09
>> Ingadoo in Canada.
00:56:10
>> I I always like it in the We watched the
00:56:13
first episode.
00:56:15
>> I love when people are going into a
00:56:17
surreal environment that can't be true,
00:56:19
but it is.
00:56:20
>> That's Vancouver and
00:56:22
>> Yeah. and your your character's kind of
00:56:24
going, "Well, let's go with this." and
00:56:26
your boyfriend's going, "This isn't
00:56:27
happen." He's very skeptical, right?
00:56:29
He's a musical person.
00:56:30
>> Yeah. And then, just so people know,
00:56:32
you'll randomly say something to these
00:56:34
people that you don't even know. And
00:56:36
then they'll have a well choreographed,
00:56:38
brilliant Broadway song.
00:56:39
>> They'll just start, right? And they were
00:56:41
such great dancers. I remember there was
00:56:43
one, it was like 8 in the morning or
00:56:45
something, and this guy just did
00:56:47
>> 16 flips in a row.
00:56:50
>> It was just like, "Wow, what a different
00:56:52
morning you and I have had." He went on
00:56:55
to the tunnel of love and there's a guy
00:56:57
there's like a bad boy guy standing
00:56:58
there and then he he sings to you and
00:57:00
this is probably early on when you don't
00:57:02
really know that's what's going on which
00:57:03
is very funny reactions and then I guess
00:57:06
you guys start to get used to the fact
00:57:08
that this is where you are.
00:57:09
>> Yes. Yes. And uh Right. We we stop
00:57:12
asking what they're doing every time.
00:57:15
>> I just accept it
00:57:16
>> once we figure that out. Yeah.
00:57:18
>> That's on Apple TV. That's on Apple TV
00:57:21
Plus. The new season, which is Chicago,
00:57:23
is April 5th.
00:57:25
>> If you like Broadway musicals, which
00:57:28
everybody does.
00:57:28
>> And then I I hopefully I do think first
00:57:30
season I think a lot of people who were
00:57:33
not do not consider themselves musical
00:57:36
people. We had a good amount of people.
00:57:38
>> Well, I'm not a musical person. I liked
00:57:40
it.
00:57:40
>> Well, it's kind of science fiction in a
00:57:42
way, fantasy.
00:57:44
>> Hopefully, there's like something for
00:57:45
for everybody. I think having Keegan and
00:57:48
I lets like a comedy audience in
00:57:51
>> jokes
00:57:52
think that that was the show for them.
00:57:55
>> Well, the songs have jokes so it's not
00:57:56
just watching, you know.
00:57:58
>> Yeah.
00:57:59
>> It's it's very original. I would I would
00:58:01
check it out.
00:58:03
>> I would check it out. And you and Keegan
00:58:05
are great, too.
00:58:06
>> I see Keegan out a lot. I see him
00:58:07
around. He's the best. Yeah.
00:58:09
>> Yeah. Always uh good mood.
00:58:11
>> You can hear him when you're out, too.
00:58:12
He's Oh, I feel like when he enters the
00:58:15
room, you know he's there. There's like
00:58:17
a
00:58:17
>> Yeah, he's a big scream.
00:58:19
>> Lot of fun energy.
00:58:20
>> Could we just touch on as as we go
00:58:23
through your life here? Uh some of your
00:58:25
classic
00:58:26
>> Yes.
00:58:26
>> sketches like I I know that you uh I
00:58:30
just kind of personally
00:58:31
>> I just want to say this is very cool for
00:58:34
me. Just want you to know that
00:58:37
>> while
00:58:37
>> we've been watching you all morning and
00:58:39
laugh laughing out loud at your stuff
00:58:41
and uh that's why me and Dana are going
00:58:43
back and forth before we called you and
00:58:44
we were like did you just see this one?
00:58:46
Did you see this one?
00:58:47
>> We're alums and and we don't want to
00:58:49
make it too grandiose but it is a
00:58:52
seminal experience for us in that place
00:58:55
and and and uh being on live TV with
00:58:57
your friends who you make lifelong
00:58:59
friendships with. So this is very
00:59:01
enjoyable. But I I I just kind of
00:59:04
thought there was so many great cast
00:59:06
members in that decade. And then I
00:59:09
personally sort of started to notice you
00:59:11
and notice you doing, you know, like
00:59:14
really connecting with the audience
00:59:16
because I think it takes a while for the
00:59:18
audience to go, "Oh, we like Cesaly."
00:59:20
>> Yes. Yeah.
00:59:20
>> She she just made me really laugh and
00:59:22
then it happens and builds. So I just
00:59:25
saw that maybe at least it was for me
00:59:27
those last two or three years you were
00:59:29
just at another level or some other
00:59:31
level happened of of confidence.
00:59:34
>> Yes. and and uh Gina Pin Pino Pro.
00:59:41
>> Yeah. Was like a
00:59:44
sorry but like a heavyweight character
00:59:46
like a big loud bombastic and that must
00:59:49
have been fun just to play that person
00:59:51
that that persona is so aggressive.
00:59:54
>> Yeah, definitely. And I um Tucker and I,
00:59:58
Brian Tucker, wrote it with me and he
01:00:01
wrote it as a sketch first, just a sort
01:00:04
of a Fox News thing, but no one really
01:00:06
knew who she was at the time, even
01:00:08
though we were like, she's w she's a
01:00:10
great character.
01:00:11
>> Yeah,
01:00:12
>> she's But uh the first time we did it, I
01:00:14
don't think there was a big response.
01:00:16
And then we tried it again on Update and
01:00:18
it was sort of I I was excited because
01:00:20
it was a way to do a bit of physical
01:00:22
comedy too because I wanted to
01:00:25
>> we and the first sketch that we wrote we
01:00:27
had her in a chair with a seat belt
01:00:29
>> worried that she was going to fly out of
01:00:31
her chair and I was like well then let
01:00:33
me fly out of the chair that'll be our
01:00:34
thing. Yeah.
01:00:35
>> You know she always yells Dana because
01:00:37
she uh was yelling for a Cobb salad and
01:00:40
they didn't have a they had cranberries
01:00:41
on it. One cranberry,
01:00:42
>> right? Yes. That's her volume or
01:00:45
something. never went down on volume
01:00:47
after that.
01:00:48
>> But yelling at a waiter,
01:00:51
>> it was a big powerful one. And then I'm
01:00:53
always interested when people can do cuz
01:00:55
I don't know if I had that gear. Play
01:00:58
play subtle dumb and t I'm just looking
01:01:02
at the two porn stars you did with
01:01:03
Vanessa Bayer.
01:01:06
There's a describe those two characters
01:01:08
in the rhythm of how you're acting. Dumb
01:01:11
but not dumb. I mean, how do you
01:01:13
describe that?
01:01:13
>> Yeah, I Well, I think
01:01:16
my my porn star was always a little bit
01:01:19
more out of it than Vanessa's and sort
01:01:22
of but it was kind of that's how the
01:01:24
pair worked, you know, and I think um
01:01:27
mine's just I remember seeing I think it
01:01:29
was like a Tyra Banks or something early
01:01:32
on and she had a porn star on I forget
01:01:36
who it was but she was so like yeah and
01:01:40
I'm happy doing it and it's I just her
01:01:44
the way she was speaking was I was like,
01:01:46
"Oh, I want to do that." And I think it
01:01:48
was also just a way to writing with
01:01:51
Colin Jo. We like to do um a lot of
01:01:53
malipropisms
01:01:55
and so it was which we do a girl at a
01:01:57
party and then we wound up doing in
01:01:58
porn, you know, it's like an excuse for
01:02:01
a lot of bad puns, too, honestly.
01:02:04
>> Yeah.
01:02:04
>> Right. But it's it's fun when you land a
01:02:07
hard laugh with something that's so
01:02:09
softspoken.
01:02:10
>> I think that was like even more than
01:02:11
Girl at a Party. I think that was the
01:02:14
most I felt the best after that first
01:02:18
year. I you know I think it was Jamie
01:02:20
Fox's episode.
01:02:22
Um, I think that's what it was. And it
01:02:25
was my first year and we were the the
01:02:27
last sketch and I think and Lauren gave
01:02:30
us, you know, it was that you it was
01:02:32
still more cushioned when you're in that
01:02:33
last spot and you can kind of
01:02:35
>> I just the audience went so wild for it
01:02:38
and it was so much fun to have that
01:02:40
reaction for the first time
01:02:42
>> at at 10 to one.
01:02:43
>> Yes. Yeah. And kind of be like a little
01:02:46
dirty and I it was just it was really
01:02:49
fun
01:02:50
>> cuz you had a series of lines. The one I
01:02:52
saw today was uh this morning was I got
01:02:54
banged and then something really you're
01:02:57
both doing it so obviously casual and so
01:03:01
softspoken.
01:03:02
>> But anyway, so I'm glad to hear that
01:03:04
that would be something for me it was
01:03:06
doing Johnny Carson because I didn't
01:03:07
really
01:03:08
>> I wasn't thinking about whether the
01:03:10
audience was going to laugh because I
01:03:11
knew what I was saying was almost too
01:03:13
funny at least to me internally. So I
01:03:15
felt like you had that connection with
01:03:17
that character where it's just like all
01:03:19
thrown away and really soft spoken. It's
01:03:21
super funny.
01:03:22
>> Yes. I I think that's sort of how we got
01:03:24
away with all of it too.
01:03:26
>> We just we kept saying like how can we
01:03:28
we just wanted a framework to be able to
01:03:32
say these awful things. And we were
01:03:34
like, "Oh, they're they were porn stars,
01:03:36
but they're not anymore."
01:03:38
>> And then then it was like and we had a
01:03:40
lot of fun running gags. Like I never
01:03:42
got a name. It was always like, "How do
01:03:45
we do that this time? How can we skirt
01:03:47
around me saying a name?"
01:03:49
>> Like, "Can you give me an example?"
01:03:51
>> Like, she'd say, "We're not porn stars
01:03:53
anymore. I'm Brekie." And I'd go, "And
01:03:55
this is Brekie." Or she said, "I'm
01:03:58
Brekie." And I said, "And you can, too."
01:04:02
>> Yeah. It's your nonsequiter weird.
01:04:04
>> Yes. That really
01:04:05
>> always I'm not I'm not always paying
01:04:07
attention, my that gal at every moment.
01:04:10
>> They may have done drugs.
01:04:11
>> They may have done drugs.
01:04:13
>> Yeah. You kind of hope that they did.
01:04:21
>> There was just a I thought it was very
01:04:23
cute when you and um Kristen did It's
01:04:26
such a weird thing you're on a date with
01:04:28
the 10-year-old kids, but you guys just
01:04:30
carry the whole thing and you're so
01:04:32
keepy and alive and funny and just sort
01:04:34
of odd, but it very likable girls.
01:04:38
>> Yeah. I think when I think I wrote it
01:04:39
with Michael O'Brien and it was like we
01:04:42
just wanted to really write
01:04:44
>> the best date that someone could, you
01:04:47
know, something that felt really good
01:04:48
and it was like and then it just
01:04:50
happened to be 10-year-olds, but they
01:04:52
really felt like this is a really a date
01:04:54
that's good. I know the way you played
01:04:56
it was that's just fun to watch because
01:04:58
I obviously you know you start these you
01:05:00
don't know where it's going and if
01:05:02
you're in comedy you don't know where
01:05:03
and it just it's fun to watch these
01:05:05
things unfold and then you guys just
01:05:06
seeing two pros just being very funny on
01:05:09
their side of it like
01:05:10
>> and having like Tim and Bobby Yeah,
01:05:12
there was a lot of giggling.
01:05:14
>> Yeah, I'm sure that just looks like a
01:05:16
super fun rehearsal also.
01:05:18
>> Yeah.
01:05:18
>> And you and Bobby Moyahan, you and he
01:05:21
did the Best Buy firing. That must have
01:05:23
been kind of fun because it was just so
01:05:24
loud and and and you were just you were
01:05:28
supposed to be getting fired so you just
01:05:30
deconstructed every other employee.
01:05:32
>> Right. Right.
01:05:32
>> Rip.
01:05:33
>> They're going out. They're going out
01:05:34
with a bang, which and it was uh that
01:05:37
was the first show I'd gotten
01:05:40
>> a sketch on and I got that on and
01:05:42
girlfriends on and it was it was so
01:05:44
great because Bobby had been there for a
01:05:46
while and sort of like I really was like
01:05:49
trusted whatever if he's saying this is
01:05:51
good then I trust that it's
01:05:53
>> I was really I hadn't quite yelled at
01:05:55
the table yet before it's my first time
01:05:58
yelling at the table. Definitely. This
01:06:00
happened to me twice, not as much as
01:06:02
Dana, but to either write something or
01:06:04
co-write something. And when you you
01:06:06
originally get a big one on, it's so
01:06:08
much your focus to have two on is almost
01:06:11
throws you.
01:06:12
>> It's like that's too much.
01:06:14
>> Yes. Yes. It was It was crazy that they
01:06:17
both I was sort of like, how does that
01:06:20
how will that work? cuz you have to
01:06:21
oversee them, direct them, like there's
01:06:23
so much to do with them and go to
01:06:25
wardrobe and costumes and set design and
01:06:27
help with every aspect. You're like, "Oh
01:06:29
my god, just give me one. Let me just
01:06:31
see if I can figure out,
01:06:32
>> right?" And you're like, "Well, is this
01:06:33
going to work?" It's my, you know,
01:06:35
wanting to make sure everything is like
01:06:37
you've thought, right? You've thought
01:06:38
through everything for that for the
01:06:40
first one,
01:06:41
>> but then after
01:06:42
>> was the other one Girlfriend's Talk
01:06:44
Show? Sorry. Was the other one talk show
01:06:46
with with 80? So there's your your
01:06:48
bandmate from
01:06:49
>> There's your 80. Yep. So, you have a
01:06:50
comfort zone with her.
01:06:51
>> Yeah, I really I did a lot of
01:06:53
two-handers for a long time over there,
01:06:56
which I really loved.
01:06:58
>> Two-handers meaning duos. Yeah.
01:07:01
>> Yeah. Where, you know, me and Bobby or
01:07:03
Vanessa and I 80 and I Yeah. Kate and I
01:07:06
were kind of world was a two-hander.
01:07:09
>> Exa. Yes.
01:07:10
>> Hans and fr say two-hander.
01:07:14
>> Exactly.
01:07:16
>> You know, but yeah, I think it's it's
01:07:17
fun. It's a it's a very clean simple
01:07:19
thing. You're you're playing a rhythm
01:07:21
with your other person and it's just
01:07:23
nice.
01:07:24
>> Yes.
01:07:24
>> Also for getting laughs off a straight
01:07:26
part was uh you and Bill her when he
01:07:29
hosted and you're going to play Uno with
01:07:31
your friends.
01:07:32
>> Oh yeah.
01:07:32
>> Your boyfriend.
01:07:33
>> Well, that one we were I wrote a lot
01:07:35
with James Anderson and Kent Sublet and
01:07:38
I was like we just have to if like what
01:07:40
I know of Bill is like we just have to
01:07:42
give him a big toy
01:07:44
>> really. So it's like give him a big
01:07:46
motorized wheelchair
01:07:49
>> and then you climb on him. I didn't see
01:07:50
that coming.
01:07:52
>> No,
01:07:52
>> you have the courtesy of
01:07:54
>> courtesy blanket. Mhm.
01:07:55
>> Yeah.
01:07:57
So it's not like And she goes, "Sex is
01:08:00
sexual,
01:08:01
>> right? It's not a sexual thing. It's
01:08:02
science."
01:08:04
>> And she goes, "No, sex is sexual."
01:08:06
>> And it's sort of, you know, this awful
01:08:08
trying to make your friends feel bad.
01:08:10
Like, you know how much I want a baby.
01:08:13
>> Yeah. I know. It was all good. Yeah. Try
01:08:15
not to laugh, of course, because he's
01:08:17
banging to everything, driving his
01:08:19
[ __ ]
01:08:20
>> right? And there's no, you know, we
01:08:21
still only get however many rehearsals
01:08:23
and then so it is it's so
01:08:28
>> backing up. You don't even know who's
01:08:29
going to hit a table or you guys are
01:08:30
going to get your leg broken or
01:08:32
>> whatever. Yes. And I think like the
01:08:33
controlled chaos was sort of that became
01:08:36
my my favorite part of the show, you
01:08:38
know? It's like the one the thing that
01:08:40
sets us apart from everything else is
01:08:42
having it live and
01:08:44
>> not perfect. Yeah.
01:08:45
>> Yeah. So, and it was sort of like throw
01:08:47
in a dog, throw in some
01:08:50
>> wine that you're throwing or some, you
01:08:52
know, just just there's then you have
01:08:54
chaos that you're kind of like I don't
01:08:55
quite know what's going to happen. So,
01:08:57
>> then it keeps
01:08:58
>> and the audience senses that
01:08:59
>> having fun. Yeah.
01:09:00
>> They want it for sure. I had a dog with
01:09:03
a massive head wound hair course which
01:09:04
was you know but that was uh I was just
01:09:07
writing
01:09:08
>> won an Emmy
01:09:11
>> um the nor after dress was the dog is
01:09:14
pushing a little could we get the dog
01:09:16
like not like find the leads you know
01:09:19
it's just
01:09:19
>> the dog's hosting during February sweeps
01:09:21
with Jay-Z
01:09:23
>> so you do 10 years you go through all
01:09:25
these different cast members coming and
01:09:28
going when you first came in who who was
01:09:30
there and who left pretty shortly after
01:09:32
that or or were you
01:09:33
>> we being a we had a pretty we had a core
01:09:36
cast for a long time together that came
01:09:39
in.
01:09:40
>> Yeah. So I was when I it was Bill and
01:09:43
Jason and Fred's last year
01:09:46
>> Okay. When I got you you caught them for
01:09:49
one year.
01:09:50
>> Yeah. So I got one year with them.
01:09:51
>> Solid. Yeah.
01:09:52
>> Uh which was so excit you know to have
01:09:55
those people around when you're first
01:09:56
there is really exciting. And then um
01:10:00
then Bobby, Taran, Jay, Vanessa, they
01:10:05
were sort of the next and Nim were all
01:10:08
sort of the next upper classmen. And
01:10:11
then but 80, Kate and I and Beck and
01:10:15
Kyle
01:10:17
there, we were sort of we were there for
01:10:18
a long time together.
01:10:20
>> Yeah, you did have a nice long run
01:10:21
together. Kyle Mo Kyle Mooney, Beck
01:10:24
Bennett.
01:10:25
>> Um Kate, of course, you Yeah. What you
01:10:28
Yeah, like a re the show keeps
01:10:31
>> and Keenan. Yes.
01:10:33
>> And Kenan Thompson just the perennial
01:10:35
cast member. It was just always
01:10:37
>> when you leave season does it always
01:10:39
funny
01:10:40
>> a weird feeling uh when the shows are
01:10:42
still on?
01:10:43
>> It's definitely weird. It feels like it
01:10:45
was much longer.
01:10:47
Uh it feels like a much much more time
01:10:49
has passed since I've been there. Um,
01:10:51
but I also I think one of I I know AD
01:10:56
and Kate and a couple other people I've
01:10:58
talked to and even Kristen, I talked to
01:11:00
her when she first hosted. It was kind
01:11:02
of like you can't I haven't been
01:11:04
watching. I think you have to kind of
01:11:06
walk away for a while to be able to
01:11:08
leave. So,
01:11:09
>> it's very weird to watch it after
01:11:11
>> there's people doing your job.
01:11:12
>> Yeah, it gets weird and all the anxiety
01:11:16
I feel like would just come back right
01:11:18
away. And I would I just don't I think
01:11:20
it's I'm good where I am with this
01:11:22
distance.
01:11:23
>> You did a good run. I mean, my god.
01:11:26
>> Yeah. It's it's it's pretty
01:11:27
comprehensive. Do you feel I don't know.
01:11:29
You probably feel so many things, but
01:11:32
somewhere you must feel a nice level of
01:11:34
satisfaction. You lived your dream.
01:11:36
>> Totally. And you Yes. And I got to leave
01:11:39
like happy, which I know is doesn't
01:11:42
always happen. We've heard those
01:11:45
stories.
01:11:45
>> Yeah. And I, you know, there was I had a
01:11:48
tough couple years like everybody does.
01:11:50
And so it was really nice to get to
01:11:53
leave that way.
01:11:55
>> Yeah. Going out with a bang. And now you
01:11:57
haveun. Is that
01:12:00
>> I think that's You also may not know
01:12:03
this. You're in a phone commercial.
01:12:06
>> That's right. Yes.
01:12:08
>> You wouldn't know that.
01:12:09
>> You might I don't know if you've seen
01:12:10
it.
01:12:11
>> I don't know if you can find YouTube
01:12:14
though. Yeah, you you have to go to
01:12:16
YouTube.
01:12:17
>> I'm a big fan of tech commercials and
01:12:20
phone. You don't potato chips and tacos
01:12:22
is harder. Although I'm for sale at this
01:12:24
point.
01:12:25
>> I will I will bite a taco. But when
01:12:28
you're doing phone companies or that
01:12:30
sort of Apple commercial or whatever,
01:12:32
that's sort of nice. I mean, I think the
01:12:34
commercials you you look great and it's
01:12:36
just sweet and it's kind of smart. So
01:12:38
yeah,
01:12:39
>> I'm a big fan
01:12:41
>> of u doing commercials as soon as you
01:12:43
come off SNL
01:12:45
>> right as you come off.
01:12:47
>> Great gig. I Yeah,
01:12:48
>> it's a great gig. And then you got uh I
01:12:50
think who was in it? Seth was in the one
01:12:52
I saw.
01:12:53
>> Seth has been Yeah, Jessica Williams
01:12:54
just did one.
01:12:56
>> So they've been like,
01:12:57
>> believe it or not,
01:13:00
you were not supposed to do commercials
01:13:02
>> when you came off Sarah in the '9s. You
01:13:04
were not supposed to do commercials. So
01:13:06
that um I'm not envious. I don't hate
01:13:09
the people that do the math. I live
01:13:11
through them and I root for you guys.
01:13:12
But yeah, do the commercials.
01:13:14
>> I know it was like a new thing that we
01:13:16
got to do
01:13:17
>> a commercial during our time on the
01:13:19
show. That was always like such a no no.
01:13:22
But I think however a couple years.
01:13:25
Yeah.
01:13:25
>> I got shot down on that. I have I have
01:13:27
to ask her I have to tell her one thing
01:13:29
before you get your last word, Dana.
01:13:32
>> Born in Springfield.
01:13:34
>> Springfield, Illinois. My daughter
01:13:36
uh lives in Springfield and growing up
01:13:38
in Springfield. So,
01:13:40
>> I'm saying there's hope for her to come
01:13:42
out like Cesley because you did it and
01:13:44
and you and you liked it. You were there
01:13:46
for
01:13:46
>> Well, I did move pretty quickly
01:13:48
actually. I was a year and a half when
01:13:49
we moved to Oak Park, which is right
01:13:51
outside your recollection.
01:13:55
>> What was the mall like when you were
01:13:57
there at one year?
01:13:58
>> But I'm sure it's what made me who I am.
01:14:00
>> Do you go back ever? No. Do you just
01:14:02
>> to Springfield?
01:14:03
>> Yeah. No, not to Springfield. I did go
01:14:06
back. I went back once. Uh I It's a It's
01:14:10
far away from Chicago, but I went I It
01:14:13
was when Barack Obama announced Joe
01:14:16
Biden as his running mate. It was in
01:14:18
Springfield and a couple friends and I
01:14:20
drove.
01:14:20
>> You did it at the J Crew at the mall
01:14:22
there.
01:14:22
>> At the J Crew in Yeah. I got I got an
01:14:24
autograph.
01:14:27
>> So, you have a memoir out, This Will All
01:14:29
Be Over Soon, which I love the title.
01:14:31
>> Yes. Yes. written during the pandemic
01:14:34
and uh that's available on wherever you
01:14:37
can find it.
01:14:38
>> All the book places. Yeah,
01:14:40
>> book places. Yeah.
01:14:42
>> So, I'm I'm just so uh I don't know. I'm
01:14:45
just so thrilled that we when they said
01:14:47
Cesaly's in, it made me very happy. Oh,
01:14:50
yeah. Yeah, it's like I think it's like
01:14:52
a right of passage to to get to talk to
01:14:54
you guys and you are both some of the
01:14:57
best to have ever done it and it's
01:15:00
you're doing well on the other side.
01:15:02
>> Very nice.
01:15:04
>> I love funny people and we did ask Kenan
01:15:07
about which just as a kind of a piffy
01:15:10
question like oh who's the greatest? We
01:15:12
all have to make a name up or whatever
01:15:14
you know rank things and he had gave the
01:15:17
best answer. He just said spontaneously
01:15:20
the women.
01:15:21
>> Oh, that's
01:15:22
>> all the women because the amount
01:15:24
>> freaking doll.
01:15:26
>> He is adorable. He's like you want to
01:15:27
adopt him.
01:15:28
>> Smart guy, too.
01:15:30
>> Yeah.
01:15:30
>> The amount of women and you're in that
01:15:32
continuum between Amy and and I'll
01:15:34
forget the names too many. Sherio,
01:15:36
Terry, and
01:15:37
>> Vanessa. It goes on and on. Maya, Molly,
01:15:40
Kristen, Amy. Right. Right. Right.
01:15:42
>> Yeah. There's so many women who've done
01:15:44
such brilliant work on that show in
01:15:47
recent history, but we fancy ourselves,
01:15:49
it sounds high flutin, a slight casual
01:15:51
funny oral history of cast members
01:15:55
interviewing cast members. We we know
01:15:56
where the grease pain is stored. So we
01:16:00
This has been a pleasure. David, do you
01:16:01
have any final statement?
01:16:03
>> Nor like you get to talk about SNL, not
01:16:05
bore everyone because at certain times
01:16:08
you just start talking about it and
01:16:09
you're like, "All right, well, forget
01:16:10
it. I should stop." But it's fun to talk
01:16:13
about because it's on your line. It'll
01:16:14
be on longer than you think. You just
01:16:16
keep
01:16:17
>> because you were there so long
01:16:19
>> from Saturday Night Live. And the great
01:16:20
thing about the way the world works now
01:16:22
with live streaming all these venues,
01:16:24
you're just going to work. You're going
01:16:25
to do whatever you want to do in show
01:16:27
business for decades now. But you'll
01:16:30
always be from Saturday Night Live, you
01:16:32
know, which is it's a great legacy.
01:16:34
>> It's right.
01:16:36
It's not. Yeah.
01:16:37
>> It could be way worse. It's great to
01:16:38
have. I mean,
01:16:39
>> yeah,
01:16:39
>> you everything sort of
01:16:41
>> comes from there and you know, came from
01:16:44
>> improv places there.
01:16:46
>> When you can do live sketch comedy and
01:16:49
do it with with joy and and and do it uh
01:16:53
with as an expert, it everything else
01:16:55
that you can do. It's kind of,
01:16:57
>> you know, it's like
01:16:58
>> I feel like the greatest thing since
01:17:00
leaving has been learn like seeing that
01:17:03
people maybe see me now the way I saw
01:17:08
Amy and Tina and Maya and Kristen
01:17:10
walking in and that was I think like
01:17:13
that's just a great thing to have in my
01:17:16
pocket for a bad day like I'm I'm
01:17:18
amongst those names and that's
01:17:20
>> you are thousand% amongst and the
01:17:24
everyone loves it at a certain age. one
01:17:25
of Lauren isms, you know, whoever was 14
01:17:27
at the time. But you've you've got your
01:17:29
your cast, your primary cast, and your
01:17:32
people and those fans are so connected
01:17:35
to you.
01:17:35
>> Yeah.
01:17:36
>> Forever, which is very sweet. You know,
01:17:38
they're 14 now, but you'll run into them
01:17:40
later
01:17:40
>> and they'll be so So, it's such an honor
01:17:43
to be on that show
01:17:45
>> uh and to be humble about it and just be
01:17:48
grateful.
01:17:49
>> We're on the wall.
01:17:50
>> We get to do this.
01:17:51
>> We're on the wall.
01:17:51
>> Yeah. We have to do we got to do a fun
01:17:53
job for a long time.
01:17:54
>> Yeah. Yeah. So, any we're going to get
01:17:56
started in a minute. We're just going to
01:17:57
take a break,
01:17:59
>> but we like to do pre-in. I think we got
01:18:02
a good show here.
01:18:04
>> We do. We know we're going to talk about
01:18:05
now.
01:18:06
>> Thank you very much.
01:18:07
>> I like to say we're going to see you
01:18:08
around campus in show business and for
01:18:11
sure at the 50th
01:18:12
>> and uh right,
01:18:14
>> you know, so that'll be exciting. I hope
01:18:16
I get to do something with you. I hope
01:18:17
you do something.
01:18:18
>> I would love that.
01:18:19
>> We'll put you in Wayne.
01:18:20
>> I got to start thinking about Yes,
01:18:22
please. That's one of the first movies I
01:18:25
think I like had memor like I that's
01:18:28
probably I have the most memorized of mo
01:18:31
of all movies.
01:18:32
>> Oh, I like to play. I'm sorry. I was
01:18:35
trying to think and I I think I did like
01:18:37
you a gun rack.
01:18:40
>> I like it. What am I going to do with a
01:18:42
gun? I don't even own an ad gun.
01:18:44
>> Yes.
01:18:46
>> A gun
01:18:48
great movies.
01:18:49
>> Yeah. Surreal. But anyway, best of luck
01:18:52
to you. Uh, I'm gonna be watching your
01:18:54
show with my sister who's visiting
01:18:56
>> um tonight
01:19:00
and the new one is April 5th. So,
01:19:02
>> and it comes out April 5th for the next
01:19:04
season.
01:19:05
>> Yes.
01:19:05
>> All right.
01:19:10
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