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ASA Scott welcome to my podcast thank
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thank you so much for having me I'm so
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pleased we made this this happen we've
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been going back and forth for months now
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I think so long and I've been feeling so
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bad about it because you know when
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someone wants you to do something and
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you keep pulling out and you pull out
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with a legitimate reason but it sounds
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like you're talking [ __ ] to just
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pull out of it and I never wanted you to
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feel that way because as I said Dom I
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don't think you're a waste of time and
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so it just I just got to the point where
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I was like look I need to make this
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happen cuz I don't want him to think I'm
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a avoiding him uh and here I am in your
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podcast room and I'm very happy to be
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here thank you well it's wonderful to
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have you here um Asia Scott for anyone
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that doesn't know um very very famous uh
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maybe more so outside New Zealand yeah
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for being on the the Bravo reality show
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below deck which hand on heart I've
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never seen a full episode of no worries
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um but I'm well aware of who you are and
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in preparation for this podcast I've
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watched I've gone on a deep dive on
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YouTube and this's so many so many clips
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and you and I have got one thing in
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common one we I'm sure we've got many
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things in common but there's one thing I
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no that we've got in common we would
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both rather watch Gilmore Girls than
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S whatever Dom no you wouldn't although
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I have got a real nice penis now so it's
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like not as true but oh your your fiance
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has my boyfriend yeah right but still
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regardless of your sexual orientation I
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can't think there' be many people that
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would rather suck a dick than watch an
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episode of Gilmore girl it's such a good
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show and I've been to the set of the
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show and it's just this
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paradise so I stand by it this um that
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sort of quote is um I think a good sort
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of sample of who who we're dealing with
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here and who you are it's like you you
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you just you say these things and do you
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do you do you know that funny are you
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saying it to be funny or shocking or do
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you just speak and then think afterwards
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what happens I think I was just raised
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and I was raised in a household where it
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was very liberal and very sexually
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orientated you know I I watched American
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Pie when I was like five I asked my mom
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what sodomy was when I was seven and I
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cuz I had four older brothers and so it
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was just all the sex talk and so I guess
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I've just growing up with these very
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vulgar kind of comments at top of mind
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and it's actually been a really big hit
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over in the states with people that you
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wouldn't expected to be like the the the
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moms that are in their 50s and 60s
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because they're like oh my gosh you you
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say everything that I'm thinking but I'm
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not confident enough to say it and say
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it people say that but no one is
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thinking the stuff that you I think I
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think people are a little bit more
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naughty in their minds than you're
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giving them credit for especially these
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women that are you know stuck at home
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watching TV and they're like you just
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managed to say these things that we're
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thinking and such a like cutesy kind of
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way that you managed to get away with
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it we will get into this later I've got
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a laundry list of stuff that you've said
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like there the gore girls thing uh you
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talking about playing vagina guitar uh
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there's a story about you um being um
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almost having like a poo fetish when you
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were Aid and putting a f at your bu
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we'll get to all this later it wasn't a
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fetish it was a
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curiosity literally nobody is thinking
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this stuff but here you are you say it
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um another thing oh congratulations New
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Zealand television personality of the
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Year thank you this was just at the end
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of 2023 y so who who were you up against
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who were the finalist um I was up
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against Dy who I listened to your
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podcast with him it was amazing it's a
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great man um Luke bird Kim Crossman
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Susan devoy I think oh oh yeah she was
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on Celebrity Treasure Island yeah there
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was a a guy
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Montgomery but I it felt so overwhelming
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winning that award because the thing
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that I the one thing that I found a
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little bit not just heartening but a
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little bit irritating over my kind of
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like rise to fame and this is the
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success that I've had overseas I was
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talking to Colin about this from below
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di saing who's also a kiwi and it took
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so long for New Zealand to kind of give
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a [ __ ] about what we were doing overseas
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you know like we were getting all of
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this attention over in the states and I
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couldn't even get like a bay plenty
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Times newspaper article and we were like
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what is going on why does no one care
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about what we're doing and it's only
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been in the last kind of year that below
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deck's become popular here and people
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have started writing articles and people
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know our names and so when my name got
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called out at the New Zealand TV Awards
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I thought I was going to do this really
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cool speech and be super funny but I
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actually just broke down and I couldn't
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stop crying for like an hour because it
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felt like Mom and Dad finally said they
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were proud of me you it was like that
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feel New Zealand that feeling that New
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Zealand like finally has recognized what
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I've been doing for like six years and
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it was really cool yeah cuz you're
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you're obsessed with TV he you've you've
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been obsessed with TV since a youngster
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I'm no to be honest I don't watch TV I
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love being on it yeah I've always wanted
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to be on TV but I've never really
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watched TV too much apart from shortland
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Street I love shortland Street oh my God
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sorry yes Shand Street was a staple in
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the household yes yeah no but I guess I
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mean um it's almost like um you sort of
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manifested this whole thing yes like
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from a young age you thought you
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belonged on TV and it was you sort of
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aspired to do that and then then it it
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happened and it's um it's amazing I
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don't know if it's serend depy or
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manifestation or whatever it is but the
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steps you went through and we'll go
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through all of this um it's amazing so I
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can see why you were so emotional being
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on that stage last year yes it was a
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cool moment it was it was so so cool it
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actually it's just one of those things
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that still feels so surreal my whole
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life feels so surreal when I actually
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sit and think about the position that
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I'm in and all the things that I've
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achieved over the last year you I don't
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know it's really hard to actually
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process it and I don't think it's all
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kind of hit me yet yeah but you're so
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you deserve it the way you're so
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positive do people say have you heard
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the phrase toxic positivity do you yeah
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do people say that about you do you know
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I actually don't get that very often
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I've had it maybe once or twice ever
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but sometimes when I'm saying things cuz
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none of it is put on it truly is how I
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view the world but every now and then
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I'm like oh I wonder if people think
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that I'm putting this on to try like
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hoping that it will manifest all of
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these things but that's just that's just
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who I am yeah it's funny how people want
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to rip you apart for being too positive
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now right yeah because I mean I as I
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said I've never seen a full episode of
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below de but I am one of your 800,000
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Instagram followers I I have been for
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many years and I love watching your
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stories it's always it's always upbeat
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and if there's elements of I don't know
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fake it till you make it there or
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elements of you even wearing a mask and
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not showing us the you know the Dark
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Side of Asia Scott I think that's fine
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as well in a way yeah well I'm really
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lucky I think I was blessed with a very
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good brain chemistry and I I think there
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are other reasons too which I've like
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which my therapist has talked to me
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about which I find very interesting like
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about coping with my mom's alcoholism
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and different ways that that personality
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comes out as a child but that you know
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so different things for my upbringing
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plus just having great brain chemistry
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means that I'm lucky that I actually am
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this happy like 99% of the time but I am
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an a human so like the day before my
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period if Scott says like the tiniest
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thing wrong I will burst into tears and
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cry about nothing but it's always like
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period related or like if I'm tired but
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I'm very rarely actually unhappy which
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which I know that I'm lucky for because
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everyone everyone else in my family has
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really struggled with depression and
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anxiety and different things from time
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to time so I know that I'm very
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lucky yeah oh there's there's so much to
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loop back around and get into um there's
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a there's there's a lot there's a lot to
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your story um okay we we'll focus on the
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early years first of all though so
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you're from Tonga which is where you're
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back living now yeah um alcoholic mom
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yeah yeah what what I see your M on SC
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all the time and you went out for a like
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the day before we're recording this you
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guys were out for a a hike together she
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looks F and healthy she's not not
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drinking anymore no no so what did what
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did that look like what are your
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earliest memories of your mom so I think
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so yeah I feel like a lot of my life was
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a lot of my childhood was very much like
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this the story that followed all of it
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was centered around mom and her drinking
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and I think from a very young age it was
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you know mom's got to go to rehab or
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what's mom going to be like when we get
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home or mom's drinking this and mom's
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drinking that and can I just preface
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this by
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saying even with her drinking she has
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always been the most devoted loving mom
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like even if she's wasted the night
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before she will get up every morning at
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5:00 and lay your school uniform out and
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make sure your breakfast is ready and
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apart from her drinking she will do
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everything she can to to be the best mom
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she could ever be and I think that break
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my heart for her that she has had to
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struggle with this alcoholism because we
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were raised with uh my dad he's a
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psychiatric nurse by Train by training
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and he ran this psychiatric unit at
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tokoni hospital when he in his early
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years so we we've always been raised
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with a very thorough understanding of
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mental health and the way the brain
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works and we have always known that
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alcoholism is a disease and a lot of it
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is genetic um she's got people in her
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family that have died of
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alcoholism um and so when knew it was a
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disease and so if anything we just felt
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so sorry for her that she was born with
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this thing that no one would ever choose
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to have um and you know I just remember
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one of my earliest memories was coming
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home and finding mom when she tried to
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kill herself cuz she was just struggling
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so much with how old were you seven at
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the time and I remember I came home and
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you know when you come home from you've
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been with your dad at M 10 or something
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and you come home and you're so excited
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to run inside and say hi to Mom and um I
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was the first one to run inside to try
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and find her and I just remember she was
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it's so funny the way your brain works
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when you're little and I she was still
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in her night gown at like 2:00 p.m. and
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she was backing out of the laundry
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instead of walking out of a door and
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then closing it behind you she had the
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door in her hand and she was slowly
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backing out of the laundry and closing
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it as she was coming out and there was
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something about that movement and the
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look on her face face I was like
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something's really not right here that's
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not how people act and I just like she
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turned and looked at me and I was like
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nah something's wrong so I sprinted back
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outside so I was like Dad Dad
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something's wrong with Mom something's
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wrong with Mom and he runs inside takes
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one look at her runs back out grabs all
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of us kids in his arms runs across the
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yard jumps the fence smashes on the
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neighbor's door like please take the
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kids take the kids runs back zooms off
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to the hospital um and it turns out she
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taken 40 Panadol and a whole bunch of
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wine obviously um and he came back after
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the hostage to stay in there overnight
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and he came back afterwards and we all
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sat on the bed and we had a family
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meeting and he was like so basically
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your mom wanted to go to sleep and never
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wake up again and we were like okay okay
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and he's like and I was like so
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basically she wanted to die and he's
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like yes cuz we always he always spoke
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to us like we were adults you know and
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so that was kind of like the stuff that
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was going on in my really early years
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and it's chaotic yeah and so that's kind
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of yeah so most of my childhood was
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shaped with incidences like that and um
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yeah just never really knowing what
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you're going to get when you came home
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so how did she how did she get you since
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she was in and out of rehab how did she
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end up um kicking the Habit once and for
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all so she event she finally so all of
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this C continued on through through
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primary school and through high school
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and she would have moments where she
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would um be sober like she'd go to rehab
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and then she'd come out and she'd be
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sober for maybe a year and it was always
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that like sick feeling that dreaded
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feeling like when are we going to come
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home and it's going to be she'll be back
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into it and the day she did we just like
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all felt like throwing up it was just
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the worst um throw you felt like
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throwing up cuz you felt bad for who
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because it was just like it always was
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just so
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you felt so gutted when she went back
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into it again but we always knew it
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would happen eventually but the day that
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we never wanted to face the day it did
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imagine how [ __ ] she felt as well when
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she exactly exactly and so we were never
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angry at her it was just like gutting
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you know you just felt gutted were you
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were you embarrassed about taking
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friends home oh yeah I didn't tell any
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of my friends I never had friends over I
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was so embarrassed cuz you just even
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knew what you'd walk into after the
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school bus um so I always went to other
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people's houses and I never really I
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didn't tell any of my friends until I
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was like 18 um and then we left home my
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sister had the worst time cuz she was
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left at home with Mom when we all left
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home um and so then anyway sorry she
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finally kicked it when it just got to
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the point where it was so bad with all
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left home so no one was really keeping
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an eye on her and my brother Jared he
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was always like he always felt like he
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had to be the man of the house and
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protector and he was really struggling
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with depression himself at the time
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working full-time an neem so run down
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and then on top of that he was because
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Mom was in such a bad way he had all of
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her cards he had her car key so after
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work he would go to the supermarket he'd
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buy her groceries he'd drop them to her
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house and he would like he was doing all
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these things to look after Mom while he
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was barely able to look after himself
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and so it just got to the point where
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Jared was like I can't do this anymore
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so one day he said to Mom he's like look
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I'm so sorry but if you can't if you
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can't finally get a handle on this I
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have to let you go I'm going to have to
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stop loving you because it's just too
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hard um my God I know and so that's what
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gave her the Wake like the Wake Up Call
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I guess or
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not yeah and so she checked herself into
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a rehab and she didn't leave for 2 years
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because most rehabs they are like 3
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month programs and I'm sorry but if
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you're like a proper lifelong addict
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that's [ __ ] all that's not going to do
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anything um so she was like I'm going to
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check myself in somewhere there's this
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place um in it's like it's on the
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outskirts of Wellington and it's the
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best one in the country you can because
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you can stay for so long um and she's
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like I'm not leaving until I know for
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sure that I've got a handle on this so
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she didn't leave for 2 years and now
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it's been 10 years that she's been sober
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and I'm so proud of her her and I just I
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truly take my head off to her she's the
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strongest woman I know oh that's amazing
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and and I just really want to reiterate
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the fact that she's very open with me
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talking about this stuff cuz she thinks
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it's important for other people to be
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educated on it all but through all of
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that she was the most loving
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mother yeah like a like a functioning
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alcoholic is that what you'd call a
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functioning functioning alcohol I guess
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like a functioning I mean you could very
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much tell that she was drunk in the
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evenings but she still took care of us
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and she still gave us so much love um
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was was your dad still around them when
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did they break up was it the alcohol
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that broke them up or yeah there was a
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few different things they were never
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really right for each other they kind of
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just stayed together cuz she got
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pregnant with my brother really quickly
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um so then you know they did the whole
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thing of then you well we may as well
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stay together and then we get married
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and we had more kids yeah so they they
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were together for 12 years um but when I
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was around 7 or8 they started sleeping
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in separate bedrooms and then when I was
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10 they divorced and honestly when they
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divorced we were all like oh thank God
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because it was just it was so it was
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getting so tense around the house yeah
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and it was so it was kind of this thing
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that was it was such a long time coming
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that when it happened it was almost like
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the sigh of relief you know you hear
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these stories of people being like Oh my
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parents divorced and it's ruined my life
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and R and I'm so sure that that's true
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for a lot of people but it just didn't
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really affect us we were more like
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finally yeah I think my parents were
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sort of the same like they stayed
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together for the kids cuz they were four
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kids but it's like they're better off as
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individuals as a couple and it would
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have been great if they just they they
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broke up a couple of times and got back
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together they just stay but I think a
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lot of it with my parents was Financial
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it's like they couldn't AFF to run two
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households y totally anyway so and um
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yeah so everything your family's been
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through like it's a your family seems
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really tight and together which is
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amazing because it could have easily
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gone the other way totally and and when
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did you lose a brother to a brain tumor
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when was so we lost Reuben to a brain
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tumor when he was 24 so I was it was my
00:18:15
first year of uni um and that was
00:18:20
actually oh my god do you know oh my God
00:18:24
this ties in to this two degrees of
00:18:28
super thing so my brother so yeah so he
00:18:32
got diagnosed when I was uh just turned
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18 I was at Uni down in Wellington um
00:18:38
and I remember being with him at the
00:18:40
hospital um in Wellington and I remember
00:18:43
standing there when he was getting his
00:18:44
test results cuz he was at a wedding and
00:18:47
he couldn't hold a knife properly and he
00:18:49
was like oh dad like I can't hold this
00:18:51
knife properly I don't know what's going
00:18:52
on with my hand and he was a uh
00:18:54
Carpenter in the Army and Deb was like
00:18:56
you know you probably just um
00:18:58
um you've probably just got what do you
00:19:01
call it like when you've like RSI orend
00:19:04
yeah he he just like strained his
00:19:05
tendons or something but they went to
00:19:08
the doctors and no one can get to the
00:19:09
bottom of it so they finally were like
00:19:11
well let's just do a scan just to be
00:19:12
safe and I remember standing in the
00:19:14
Wellington in Wellington hospital and it
00:19:16
shows up on the screen and there's these
00:19:17
two big golf ball siiz tumors in his
00:19:20
brain and just that moment where it hits
00:19:24
you and you realize like how bad it is
00:19:28
and and like I remember he just like
00:19:30
looked at dad and was just like Dad I'm
00:19:32
[ __ ] like I'm absolutely [ __ ] and it
00:19:34
was in a position in his brain where it
00:19:36
was so deep that they were like we just
00:19:38
we can't operate cuz you're just going
00:19:39
to become a complete cabbage basically
00:19:41
if we operate and um I
00:19:45
remember I remember uh when I was at oh
00:19:48
so then he was uh he grew up in par
00:19:51
parmon North primarily and so when I was
00:19:55
at Uni one day I remember I was sitting
00:19:56
in a lecture and Dad's like it's
00:19:58
happening like we need to go right now
00:19:59
he was at a hospice and he he flies from
00:20:02
toonga to Wellington gets a High car
00:20:04
picks me up he called my lecturers
00:20:06
explain what was going on and we rushed
00:20:08
to the hospice in palon north and they
00:20:11
said you know he's got a couple of days
00:20:13
left and then we were sitting there and
00:20:15
he was like he said his dying wish was
00:20:17
to um marry his beautiful girlfriend
00:20:20
Laura and it was just so heartbreaking
00:20:25
because I think about where I am in my
00:20:27
life now like I'm I've got this
00:20:29
beautiful partner like Scott's probably
00:20:31
going to propose soon at some point in
00:20:33
the next year man you know sometime in
00:20:36
the next
00:20:37
year you know sometime in the next year
00:20:39
we're just about to buy a house and
00:20:41
that's the position he was in he' just
00:20:43
got oh no he wasn't engaged but he was
00:20:45
going to propose he just bought a house
00:20:46
at this really exciting time so he said
00:20:49
his dying wish was to marry Laura and so
00:20:52
we're like cool let's all jump into gear
00:20:54
so we organized for a wedding to be held
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the next day in the hospice
00:20:58
um so we got all the paperwork signed we
00:21:03
got everything organized but it was
00:21:04
freezing and it was middle of winter um
00:21:07
and this is where I was like oh my gosh
00:21:09
this kind of ties into you a little way
00:21:12
Laura used to listen to the radio and JJ
00:21:16
had this like cape ohz we're married in
00:21:19
Queen toown yeah she had this cape so
00:21:22
she I don't know who reached out to her
00:21:24
or whatever but she ended up curing down
00:21:27
who her wedding cape and Laura wore that
00:21:30
for the wedding cuz it was freezing in
00:21:33
paliston so she wore that um on the
00:21:36
wedding uh the next day and the most
00:21:40
beautiful thing happened so we were like
00:21:43
we got him to sign the night before and
00:21:45
we're like hopefully he's good enough
00:21:47
that we can like wheel him down the
00:21:49
aisle and like it sounds morbid we were
00:21:51
like hopefully we can get them married
00:21:53
like right before he dies so that like
00:21:55
we just need to get it done but he wakes
00:21:57
up the next morning
00:21:58
and
00:21:59
obviously this is where I say like The
00:22:02
Power of Love is amazing he wakes up the
00:22:04
next morning and none of the nurses
00:22:07
could believe their eyes he was so much
00:22:10
better he got himself out of bed he got
00:22:12
into a suit he walked himself down the
00:22:15
aisle um and did his vows and everything
00:22:18
got married to her and he ended up
00:22:19
living another six months and just the
00:22:22
night before they were like he will die
00:22:24
tomorrow so that's the beautiful Power
00:22:26
of Love so he ended up lasting another
00:22:29
six months and we shifted him down to um
00:22:33
orth thought which is the hospital that
00:22:35
my dad was the CEO of at the time so Dad
00:22:38
kind of moved his office into his room
00:22:39
and and then yeah and then when Reuben
00:22:42
died I was the one that found him well
00:22:44
not found him but I was the one that was
00:22:46
alerted everyone cuz he was in the room
00:22:49
and dad had explained to us he's like
00:22:51
there's this type of breathing that
00:22:53
happens right before someone dies and if
00:22:55
you ever hear them doing this breathing
00:22:58
yeah it's it's like
00:23:00
the you know that shallow kind of
00:23:02
breathing and he's like if anyone sees
00:23:04
that you need to run around and everyone
00:23:06
know and the cleaner came in and said
00:23:08
she had to clean and we all had to leave
00:23:09
the room so everyone dispersed so far
00:23:12
around the hospital I don't know what
00:23:13
people were thinking but everyone
00:23:14
dispersed and took that time to go for
00:23:16
walks and things and I was kind of just
00:23:17
loitering outside the door and then the
00:23:19
cleaner ran up to me and she's like
00:23:21
please come come look and I went inside
00:23:23
and he was doing that breathing and I
00:23:24
was just like [ __ ] [ __ ] [ __ ] [ __ ] so I
00:23:26
sprinted around theit hospital and I'm
00:23:28
like get to Reuben's room get to
00:23:29
Reuben's room and God everyone so all of
00:23:32
us family got into the room and um we
00:23:36
all were sitting with our hands on
00:23:37
Reuben and it was really beautiful cuz
00:23:40
the last words that he said was um he
00:23:43
said he as between each breath he was
00:23:46
like I love you all and then it was like
00:23:50
a few minutes later he passed away so oh
00:23:53
my God so was communicative right to the
00:23:54
end yeah yeah but he he hadn't really
00:23:57
been and so it just showed that's why I
00:23:59
say again sry The Power of Love um oh
00:24:03
thank
00:24:04
you H The Power of Love he just really
00:24:07
he like hadn't really been speaking at
00:24:09
all and so he obviously you know again
00:24:12
he just really wanted to get that out so
00:24:15
yeah so then he passed away and we all
00:24:17
had our hands on him which was amazing
00:24:19
but you're 24 like how cruel is that oh
00:24:21
you're a kid aren't you oh such a kid
00:24:24
jeez that's um sorry oh no [ __ ] you've
00:24:28
been through a lot hey um
00:24:32
yeah there's you know people say that
00:24:34
time heals wounds but I I don't know I
00:24:36
think with grief that big it doesn't
00:24:39
actually get any easier but you just
00:24:40
find a way to deal with it and totally
00:24:42
and coexist with it exactly it's
00:24:44
terrible thing yeah and I think it's
00:24:47
it's as sad as it is um for me I kind of
00:24:51
just spend a lot of time I'm just like
00:24:53
just not thinking about it and um it's
00:24:56
just moments
00:24:58
where if I'm if I have a quiet moment
00:25:01
like we're living with my partner's
00:25:03
parents at the moment and they've got a
00:25:04
field next door with a cow on it and I
00:25:06
love going to sit with this cow and
00:25:09
sometimes we call him we call her pu cuz
00:25:12
she loves the Pu tree and often I'll
00:25:15
just go and sit in the field with the
00:25:17
cow and she's eating grass and I'm
00:25:18
looking out at the water and it's those
00:25:20
little moments where I think I can't
00:25:23
believe Reuben was eight years eight uh
00:25:28
eight years younger than what I am now
00:25:30
when he passed away and all the things
00:25:32
he didn't get to experience and I still
00:25:35
feel like life's just beginning and
00:25:36
there there's so many exciting things
00:25:39
and
00:25:40
how I just can't imagine what that
00:25:43
feeling would be to be told you've got
00:25:46
this thing and you're not going to and
00:25:49
there's nothing you can do about it it
00:25:51
wouldn't isn't it wouldn't it just be
00:25:53
the hardest news in the whole world to
00:25:55
receive yeah it's cruel yeah
00:25:58
it's really unfair yeah so um your mom
00:26:01
was still drinking at that point or had
00:26:03
she no so my three oldest brothers are
00:26:07
um my three oldest brothers are dad's
00:26:10
kids not moms they my they're half
00:26:12
Brothers but we all grew up we all grew
00:26:14
up together so we fully consider them
00:26:17
our full siblings um but at that so it
00:26:21
wasn't mom's son um but at the time at
00:26:24
that time mom was in the rehab in
00:26:26
Wellington oh there a lot going on [ __ ]
00:26:29
that there's a lot going on you
00:26:31
mentioned um uh earlier that you've
00:26:33
you've had some therapy was the therapy
00:26:35
started around this time or earlier or
00:26:38
later you you had a lot of a lot of
00:26:40
stuff to process yeah yeah um no
00:26:45
actually I'm I I haven't I didn't
00:26:48
actually start doing therapy until like
00:26:50
six months ago um I this is why I like
00:26:53
you know the way that we grew up I'm so
00:26:57
grateful for it I actually wouldn't have
00:26:59
wanted it any other way because it made
00:27:02
me such a strong resilient woman and I I
00:27:07
feel like I've got such
00:27:10
a this sounds so wanky now but I feel
00:27:12
like I've got a much better
00:27:14
understanding of so much of the world
00:27:15
and the way people work compared to
00:27:17
people that had these really easy
00:27:19
protected kind of childhoods by the way
00:27:22
for what it's withth I don't think that
00:27:23
sounds wanky at all and I feel like
00:27:25
that's um that's a kiwi thing that you
00:27:27
need to preface it by saying it's wanky
00:27:29
because you know people are going to
00:27:30
think she thinks so much take your hand
00:27:33
off it yeah yeah yeah exactly so um so I
00:27:38
yeah so I'm very grateful for the rail
00:27:39
race and so because of that like as all
00:27:41
these things happen and and the fact
00:27:43
that we grew up in a household where it
00:27:45
was basically constant therapy like we
00:27:46
talk to each other about our feelings
00:27:48
all the time so I've never really needed
00:27:51
it but it's just in the last 6 months um
00:27:54
cuz I've heard so many friends just Rave
00:27:57
about it I was like you know what I'm
00:27:58
going to give it a go and so I started
00:28:00
with this lady Sam who is incredible we
00:28:04
do it by Zoom I'm in my pajamas and it
00:28:06
was more of a way to like and rather
00:28:09
than working through something CU it's I
00:28:12
don't really have things to properly
00:28:13
work through it's just learning about
00:28:15
myself and my brain and the way it works
00:28:18
and it's been a fascinating journey I
00:28:20
really recommend everyone do it whether
00:28:23
you've got an a big issue or not it's
00:28:26
just I think it's so important know how
00:28:27
your own brain works and also it's just
00:28:30
a different perspective and a different
00:28:31
way of looking at certain situations
00:28:33
yeah exactly that's really cool but
00:28:34
you're yeah your family it's um it's
00:28:36
total goal the so you were so you were
00:28:38
diagnosed with ADHD at eight and and
00:28:41
your dad um I think I read the somewhere
00:28:43
or heard on another podcast had like a
00:28:46
like a a family meeting without you
00:28:51
yeah so so my dad had a fair cuz I was
00:28:55
like I I've had meetings with
00:28:57
psychologist since and they're like wow
00:28:59
we've never met a more 8h person in our
00:29:01
life um so I grew up very yeah very
00:29:05
hyperactive very like mode swings just
00:29:09
very attention seeking all of that stuff
00:29:11
all of the good stuff um and I remember
00:29:14
when I was like yeah it was when I was
00:29:17
eight me and my my brother and I were
00:29:19
having this fight and he was like you
00:29:21
all dare told me that you're ADHD and I
00:29:23
was
00:29:24
like I just broke down I was like what
00:29:27
are you you mean and he ended up telling
00:29:29
me that Dad had held this family meeting
00:29:31
to tell to tell all the other siblings
00:29:34
so he like you know just go easy on her
00:29:36
like get don't don't get too worked up
00:29:39
or like you know let we've all just got
00:29:41
to understand that asa's got ADHD and
00:29:43
this is why she behaves like the way she
00:29:45
behaves and so yeah so Tu and then I
00:29:48
went to Dad and I was like what what do
00:29:49
you me this family meeting and so he
00:29:52
took me on a walk and we went on this
00:29:54
big walk all around the suburb we were
00:29:56
mangapa at the time
00:29:57
and I and yeah and he just walked along
00:30:00
with me and as a as a psychiatric nurse
00:30:03
does he explained to me exactly what
00:30:04
ADHD is and why it happens and what the
00:30:08
symptoms are right and I just remember
00:30:09
walking along going but it's not my
00:30:12
fault hey and he's like no of course
00:30:15
it's not my fault and you know at first
00:30:18
I at first I thought it was like
00:30:23
a something not to be embarrassed about
00:30:26
but something something that I like I
00:30:28
got defensive about it at first cuz it's
00:30:30
like no child wants to be different of
00:30:33
course but then as I got older now I'm
00:30:36
like [ __ ] yes and all my siblings
00:30:39
they're like why did you get to be born
00:30:41
with that they're so jealous of it
00:30:44
because I just have free energy
00:30:46
basically just endless free energy and
00:30:50
it wasn't until I got to UNI that I
00:30:52
actually properly got diagnosed CU I was
00:30:54
in my first trimester of uni and we
00:30:57
would we would get given these
00:30:58
assignments and I knew that I was like a
00:31:01
smart girl and we were getting these
00:31:03
assignments and everyone else was
00:31:05
managing to do the readings and finish
00:31:07
them within like an afternoon but it
00:31:09
would take me so much long like days
00:31:12
longer and I couldn't understand why cuz
00:31:14
I knew I was just as smart as everyone
00:31:16
in the room and so I finally and I cuz
00:31:19
it's just you know that whole thing of
00:31:20
having to read a sentence 50 times
00:31:22
before you actually like take in what
00:31:24
it's saying and all of that so I finally
00:31:26
went to a psychiatrist and yeah and they
00:31:29
diagnosed me and I got prescribed Rin
00:31:31
and it it annoys me that people were
00:31:34
quite anti medication and rlin and stuff
00:31:38
but that it that is what got me through
00:31:41
uni if I didn't have that uni would have
00:31:43
been so much more difficult for me yeah
00:31:46
cuz uh Jojo and I we had a family
00:31:48
adoption and the kid that we were
00:31:50
looking after her nephew svin um he got
00:31:54
diagnosed and was was ADHD yeah and then
00:31:56
the the pediatrician said oh we'll get
00:31:58
them on some Rin or conuter and we'll
00:32:00
see how it goes and we were like oh your
00:32:02
medication cuz you just have this stigma
00:32:04
about it yeah and um the pediatrician
00:32:06
she's like well we'll put them on it if
00:32:08
it doesn't work we'll take them off and
00:32:09
I thought oh yeah that's so sensible and
00:32:12
it was an absolute Game Changer yeah
00:32:14
like Monday to Friday we'd be at work
00:32:16
and as Nanny would sort out his
00:32:17
medication but on the weekends on a
00:32:19
Saturday or Sunday I forgot to like 10
00:32:21
a.m. and he was acting up I could say
00:32:23
straight away have you had your you had
00:32:25
your your RIT this morning yeah exactly
00:32:27
and was did you find that with the
00:32:29
medication it was like that much of a
00:32:31
game changer for you oh absolutely um
00:32:34
because I think the thing that people
00:32:35
have to remember as well is that
00:32:38
especially like the you can get long
00:32:41
acting but even that's like 8 hours but
00:32:44
it's it's got no halflife like it's it's
00:32:48
it's in your system for 4 hours and then
00:32:50
it's out of your system it's not
00:32:51
something that builds up over time and
00:32:53
like it's not like an SSRI or suain
00:32:55
release thing it's it's like you take it
00:32:57
that day and then after that day it's
00:32:59
not in you anymore so you can get real I
00:33:02
get really Savvy with like picking and
00:33:04
choosing when I take it because for me I
00:33:07
don't I don't like to take it day to day
00:33:09
because I find because it does finally
00:33:12
make me focused and a bit more chill I
00:33:14
don't feel like I'm as good socially so
00:33:17
I don't so I would never take it if I
00:33:19
was coming to do a podcast or if I was
00:33:21
doing if I was filming or doing like a
00:33:23
Q&A on stage or something but when I was
00:33:25
at Uni and I'm having to sit in the
00:33:28
library for like 8 hours to finish a
00:33:30
report there's no way I could have
00:33:32
gotten that done if I didn't have my
00:33:35
medication and it it really just changed
00:33:38
my life and um yeah and I just don't
00:33:41
know why people were
00:33:42
so I mean we've made this modern
00:33:45
medicine to help us and it help and it
00:33:47
really really helped me yeah it's the
00:33:49
same thing with mental health there's a
00:33:50
lot of people that um take it as a badge
00:33:52
of honor that they don't need medication
00:33:55
but if it's a chemical imbalance in your
00:33:57
brain that needs to be rectified and can
00:33:59
be rectified just [ __ ] do it I think
00:34:02
and I think that's a really dangerous
00:34:03
attitude to have you know people who
00:34:06
would get so high and mighty like well I
00:34:08
just did it through running and it's
00:34:10
like [ __ ] yeah that totally helps
00:34:12
absolutely but if you're in a place
00:34:15
where you your balance is that out you
00:34:18
need you need something to help you get
00:34:21
to the place where running can sustain
00:34:23
you you're not you're often not going to
00:34:25
get there just from being healthy cuz
00:34:28
you need to get the balance back and
00:34:30
then sustain that yeah and it's like why
00:34:33
why is that such a I don't know why
00:34:35
they're so frowned upon yeah it's we we
00:34:37
we do need to normalize that a little
00:34:38
bit more right yeah to and and also not
00:34:40
making people feel like [ __ ] that are
00:34:43
using the pills get 100% like it doesn't
00:34:45
make you any cooler for getting there
00:34:48
just through ice bars like we've all got
00:34:51
we've all got different Journeys you
00:34:53
know yeah
00:34:54
absolutely you you ask smart e so um
00:34:57
and do do you feel like people sort of
00:34:59
um um misjudge I don't know because
00:35:02
maybe because it's it's a very thick
00:35:03
kiwi accent you've got
00:35:05
very um the Kiwi accent and the things
00:35:08
you say sometimes that people maybe
00:35:11
underestimate how intelligent you are I
00:35:13
think that I do think that that is
00:35:15
something I think people do assume that
00:35:17
I'm a little bit like Eerie fairy and I
00:35:19
I think a lot of that is also because I
00:35:22
am so happy it's like it's often that um
00:35:26
that class hand inand personality that
00:35:29
personality profile right like happy
00:35:31
Eerie irie FY la la la I love everything
00:35:35
um but I just don't really mind cuz I'm
00:35:37
like well I think it's cool if if you're
00:35:40
smart and you can fly under the radar
00:35:42
and people you misjudge your
00:35:44
intelligence I think that's awesome yeah
00:35:46
and yeah and as I say I'm I'm really
00:35:48
sure that they do but I just don't
00:35:49
really give a [ __ ] and I'm like you
00:35:51
might find out eventually you might not
00:35:52
but it doesn't affect me that's such a
00:35:54
great attitude so so after school you go
00:35:57
to Victoria University and you get a
00:35:58
double science degree what what were you
00:36:00
thinking like you had this you had this
00:36:02
this deep burning desire to end up on TV
00:36:05
somewhere why did you end up doing a
00:36:06
science degree because it's kind of
00:36:10
twofold because well I I I didn't really
00:36:14
know I always knew I wanted to go to UNI
00:36:15
because I just thought it' be such a
00:36:17
great experience and I didn't really
00:36:19
know what I wanted to be but I loved
00:36:22
being outside I just love the outdoors
00:36:25
and I'm such a science freak like in my
00:36:27
spare time I I like love to just sit and
00:36:30
read about like chemistry and atams and
00:36:32
how all these things work and it just
00:36:34
fascinates me knowing how things work
00:36:37
like ever since I was little I'd always
00:36:39
run up to Dad and be like how does how
00:36:41
does that engine work how does it how do
00:36:43
you do the tire how do you do this how
00:36:45
do you do this um and so I thought well
00:36:47
why not go to UNI and spend my time
00:36:49
learning how the earth works like that
00:36:51
sounds so interesting and I get to go on
00:36:53
camps and do all these cool things and I
00:36:55
knew
00:36:57
so I knew that I would end up on TV
00:37:01
somehow I didn't know how but I knew
00:37:03
that it would come to me and so I didn't
00:37:06
really go off chasing it which again
00:37:09
that probably sounds so wanky but I I I
00:37:12
knew so much in my gut that it would
00:37:14
happen for me that I was like just live
00:37:16
your life and do your thing and
00:37:18
eventually it will pop up and it did
00:37:20
yeah and by the way it doesn't sound
00:37:21
wanky and it's a fascinating Journey how
00:37:24
you got into the the boat siga yeah way
00:37:27
before below deck was was even a show so
00:37:30
it wasn't like a um set pathway that you
00:37:33
took for reality TV no so you get this
00:37:35
double science degree then you work in a
00:37:36
kiwi fruit lab yes you did do your
00:37:39
research no well just the the the jaxer
00:37:42
position between you the the the Asia
00:37:45
that people like suppos think they know
00:37:47
and who you actually are like it's it's
00:37:49
fascinating it's almost like um you're
00:37:50
chameleon in a way like cuz I can't
00:37:52
imagine you you working a kiwi fruit lab
00:37:54
and and a white coat like talking about
00:37:56
putting it putting a finger up your bum
00:37:57
to feel the
00:37:58
food or watching the Gil you know you
00:38:01
know what I mean it's a different sort
00:38:02
of environment and it's so funny because
00:38:05
when I was in the kiwi fruit lab I was
00:38:07
that you know we're all sitting there
00:38:08
doing our testing and I was that girl
00:38:10
that all day was like okay for the rest
00:38:14
of your life if you could only have an
00:38:17
orange or a mandarin what would you
00:38:20
choose and the whole day was just me
00:38:23
[ __ ] talking about that kind of [ __ ]
00:38:25
so you you were always like a square pig
00:38:27
and a round hole okay
00:38:30
right exactly i s had this vision of you
00:38:33
like just biting your tongue or just
00:38:35
like trying to manage yourself and then
00:38:36
at the end of the day leaving the Ki
00:38:38
fruit lab and just letting it all blurt
00:38:39
out then no I just tried to be
00:38:41
everyone's entertainment because it was
00:38:43
just such a stiff environment I just was
00:38:46
trying to like loosen it up a little bit
00:38:49
uh but I I mean and there it was it kind
00:38:51
of boring that's why I was talking about
00:38:52
oranges and mandarins but it was you
00:38:54
know it was fun in a way
00:38:57
um but yeah I think cuz as you you know
00:39:00
as you mentioned about since I was five
00:39:03
knowing this thing it's like I just I
00:39:05
remember all through school I was like
00:39:07
yep it's going to happen one day and
00:39:09
then when I was at Uni I've got such a
00:39:11
vivid memory of sitting on my bed and
00:39:14
I'm like when is this going to happen I
00:39:17
was genuinely
00:39:19
like confounded cuz I was like when is
00:39:22
this going to happen for me I know that
00:39:24
it's going to happen I'm just I'm so
00:39:26
confused us cuz I thought it probably
00:39:27
would have happened by now but it hasn't
00:39:29
H and I'm just like sitting there like
00:39:31
wondering when this is all going to
00:39:32
happen I was like anyway okay I guess
00:39:34
I'll carry on with uni for now um
00:39:36
carried on with uni did and then
00:39:39
finished uni moved back to toonga and I
00:39:41
was I wanted to work for like a Geotech
00:39:43
company or doing like Hydra like you
00:39:45
know water testing or something um and
00:39:48
then that didn't happen because no one
00:39:50
in toonga leaves their jobs ever so
00:39:52
there's never a job opening still
00:39:54
happens like that um so no no job
00:39:57
opening so I was managing a store there
00:40:00
thanks this like cool clothing store
00:40:03
that we used to have there and then um
00:40:06
when I was working at the store one day
00:40:07
my sister called me and she was like oh
00:40:10
I've heard about this yachting thing cuz
00:40:12
she she was working in a pharmacy and
00:40:14
she wasn't super into it either and
00:40:16
she's like I've heard about this yawning
00:40:17
thing I was like oh yeah tell me about
00:40:18
it and I by the end of the phone call I
00:40:21
was like mean I'm in let's do it hung up
00:40:24
handed in our two weeks notice two weeks
00:40:26
later we did the um course that you have
00:40:28
to do at the Polytech and then two weeks
00:40:30
after that we flew to France what's
00:40:32
what's what's the twoe course is it like
00:40:34
a first aid course or what it's a CCW
00:40:36
course so you have to do like fire
00:40:38
fighting so you've got to go through a
00:40:41
bloody uh container that's on fire and
00:40:43
full fire get in the dark crawl through
00:40:46
an obstacle course and save a baby at
00:40:49
the end of it a fake baby at the end of
00:40:51
it they still do real babies they don't
00:40:54
do real babies
00:40:55
anymore
00:40:59
oh seeps wasn't too happy about it the
00:41:02
parents come at the end of the day
00:41:04
where's gav sorry gav I didn't do good
00:41:07
enough so gav's not here anymore um so
00:41:10
we saved this potato sack baby pull it
00:41:13
back through uh and you know so you do
00:41:16
firefighting water survival um first
00:41:20
aid social responsibility security all
00:41:23
these different things that You' need on
00:41:24
a boat actually it was only a week yeah
00:41:26
week and then after that we flew to
00:41:28
France I'm a very impulsive person in
00:41:31
case you didn't pick up on that um flew
00:41:34
to France we got we stayed in like a
00:41:36
crew house uh and then just started
00:41:39
walking the docks and then yeah and
00:41:42
still was like I know this will happen
00:41:44
one day but I'm just carrying on with my
00:41:46
life as I thought I'd do and it wasn't
00:41:48
until I'd been doing yachting for six
00:41:51
years that a friend of mine who
00:41:54
remembered a friend of mine from school
00:41:55
who knew
00:41:57
about my TV dreams she was like oh I've
00:41:59
heard about the show below deck and I've
00:42:01
managed to get the casting agent email I
00:42:04
think you should go for it you'd be
00:42:05
really awesome and I had never even
00:42:07
heard of below before I didn't know what
00:42:09
it was and I emailed them they said fill
00:42:11
in a form I said it form's boring I'll
00:42:13
do a video um so I sent in a video and
00:42:16
within 30 minutes they were like we need
00:42:19
to have a Skype when are you free for a
00:42:20
Skype and it went from there and and it
00:42:24
was so cool because when I got it and I
00:42:26
was walked onto the boat and the cameras
00:42:28
were rolling this massive like wave of
00:42:31
energy ran over my body and I and I was
00:42:34
like whoa this is the moment I was like
00:42:39
this is what I knew I was waiting for my
00:42:42
whole life like this is it it's
00:42:45
incredible how it worked out so you you
00:42:47
so the the boat thing you went on the
00:42:49
boats to try and get on below deck it's
00:42:51
like yeah you just like following your
00:42:53
your instinct or your gut or whatever
00:42:55
you want to call it yeah it all worked
00:42:56
out yeah s and DEP yeah so so those
00:43:00
years on the on the boats pre below deck
00:43:03
what were they like so you were like a
00:43:05
dick hand yes at first what's what's a
00:43:07
dick hand so a dickand is you're you're
00:43:11
doing everything on the outside of the
00:43:12
boat so you're polishing
00:43:14
washing
00:43:16
um yeah outside
00:43:18
[ __ ] and then basically it's a it's a
00:43:21
it's a cleaner yeah well we're all
00:43:24
basically cleaners with your Insider out
00:43:27
um cleaners and waitresses basically so
00:43:29
I was a dickand and I was outside and
00:43:32
but I had this like Cy as sorry
00:43:36
misogynist Captain who I just could not
00:43:38
stand and he would do things like he'd
00:43:41
wait until I'd completely washed the
00:43:43
boat he he seemed he haded woman but
00:43:45
then hired me so I don't know why he did
00:43:48
that um and I basically did everything
00:43:50
by myself because the other deham was an
00:43:52
alcoholic that would just go sleep in
00:43:54
the build all day and he'd like wait
00:43:56
until I finished washing all of the boat
00:43:58
and then he'd start like soaring wood on
00:44:00
the AR deck all of this is going all
00:44:03
over the boat and like the other
00:44:05
[ __ ] would be like oh I just just
00:44:06
washed it don't you want to do that on
00:44:07
the port and he's just would just look
00:44:09
at me in the eye and be like I know
00:44:11
someone who wash it again and then what
00:44:14
really did it was this one time so we
00:44:17
would two-part te so that means like you
00:44:20
would do an acid wash and then you'd do
00:44:23
another wash on top of that and it kind
00:44:25
of like stripped the teeth back and made
00:44:26
it look really nice and the acid that
00:44:28
you use looks like water and we didn't
00:44:31
have any acid one day we'd run out so I
00:44:33
went to the boat next store I asked the
00:44:35
borrow some acid they gave me some of a
00:44:36
drink bottle and I was doing the take
00:44:39
put put it down and I was like scrubbing
00:44:42
and I didn't know that the stewardess
00:44:44
had come around thinking she was being
00:44:46
helpful tidying up for the end of day
00:44:48
grabbed the bottle and then put it down
00:44:50
in the gy and so I'm like scrubbing away
00:44:53
it's like 40° it's so hot we finish up I
00:44:57
go inside I'm like I'm so thirsty go
00:45:00
down to the galley and I see this water
00:45:02
bottle clear liquid pick it up go to
00:45:05
like and I go take this big drink from
00:45:08
it and it gets halfway down my throat
00:45:10
and my brain is like clicks it's like
00:45:13
something's wrong and I'm like and just
00:45:16
spit it everywhere cuz it's [ __ ] acid
00:45:18
in my mouth spit it everywhere and so
00:45:22
and I'm like oh my God I'm like it and
00:45:25
so I'm running to the sink and I'm like
00:45:28
tap on water running into my mouth just
00:45:30
trying to like rinse this acid out and
00:45:32
the captain like he's the commotion runs
00:45:34
down the stairs he's like what's going
00:45:36
on what's going on and I tell him about
00:45:38
it and he just looks over the galley and
00:45:41
sees that there's like little white
00:45:43
specs all over like the countertop and
00:45:45
stuff cuz I'd SP you know cuz I spare
00:45:47
the acid out and he did not once ask me
00:45:50
if I was okay how I was anything just
00:45:53
looked with this disgusted look over the
00:45:55
galy cuz it was like white SPS in there
00:45:58
and then he walks up and he's and he
00:46:01
said well did you swallow it and I was
00:46:02
like no I I realized as it was going
00:46:06
down and I spit and I like managed to
00:46:08
spit it all back out um but I still had
00:46:10
like some blisters on the inside of my
00:46:11
mouth and he goes and walks off and he's
00:46:14
halfway up the stairs and he just like
00:46:15
looks at the guys and he's like well I
00:46:17
guess we know she doesn't swallow and
00:46:20
that's all he said he never never asked
00:46:24
me if I was okay and after that I was
00:46:27
just like I was so done with it and I
00:46:30
why didn't you tell them like so I from
00:46:32
BS and pieces I've seen a you online I
00:46:34
feel like you're the sort of person
00:46:35
maybe this is you now versus back then
00:46:37
yeah but now you you've got the strength
00:46:40
of character to tell him to go [ __ ]
00:46:41
himself yes which I tolerate it so at
00:46:45
the time I didn't in that moment cuz
00:46:47
yeah this is my very first yachting job
00:46:49
and I was like in this position where I
00:46:51
it was my first time kind of having this
00:46:53
power play with with my Superior who
00:46:57
[ __ ] with my head and it you know I
00:46:58
was so young at the time and didn't
00:47:00
quite know how to deal with it but then
00:47:02
it was like after that I was like I'm
00:47:04
done and I was packing my bags and I was
00:47:06
like right I'm going to like find a good
00:47:07
moment to leave and he he said he made
00:47:11
some other comment like a couple days
00:47:12
later and I was just like I [ __ ] quit
00:47:15
I was like I'm done I'm leaving this
00:47:16
boat and um oh cuz he took yeah we were
00:47:20
off the boat and we were walking back on
00:47:22
he made a comment and I was like I'm
00:47:23
done I'm leaving I'm done with this [ __ ]
00:47:25
and I just looked at him and and he was
00:47:27
like oh well have a nice life Asha and I
00:47:29
just turned and looked him dead in the
00:47:30
eye and I was like you must have the
00:47:32
smallest [ __ ] [ __ ] to treat wom the
00:47:35
way you treat them and I was like you
00:47:37
are disgusting and I just like turned
00:47:39
around and walked on the boat and he's
00:47:40
like have a nice life like this
00:47:42
60-year-old French man who's like have a
00:47:45
nice life as like the most pathetic
00:47:47
thing ever and then he held my passport
00:47:50
and wouldn't give me my passport and so
00:47:53
I'm like pack my bag storm off the boat
00:47:55
he refuses to give me his passport give
00:47:57
me my passport so I had to go to one of
00:47:59
the yacht agencies and like I burst in
00:48:02
there balling my eyes I'm like man my
00:48:04
captain and I told him he's got a small
00:48:06
deck and he's got my passport blah
00:48:10
blah and they met they ended up calling
00:48:12
him and said they're going to get the
00:48:14
police to come to the boat if if he
00:48:15
doesn't hand it over so then I had to
00:48:17
walk back there by myself and like face
00:48:19
him again and have him give me my
00:48:21
passport was he contrite at that point
00:48:23
oh he just yeah he just wasn't really
00:48:25
speaking to me being a little [ __ ] um
00:48:28
yeah and so that kind of put a bad taste
00:48:31
in my mouth of being a dick and I
00:48:34
actually moved home for like six months
00:48:35
cuz I was like [ __ ] y why does anyone
00:48:37
want to do this and [ __ ] I hate it but
00:48:39
then my sister stayed on and she was
00:48:41
having a really good time on bigger
00:48:43
boats cuz that was a 35 meter and she
00:48:45
was on much bigger ones which are way
00:48:47
more fun so then after 6 months I was
00:48:49
like you know what I'm going to give
00:48:50
this another go so I went back as a
00:48:53
stewardess on bigger boats and and I
00:48:56
loved it why why are the bigger boats
00:48:58
more fun is it because there's more of a
00:49:00
crew or yeah it's just there's more
00:49:02
people and all of the cuz on the smaller
00:49:05
boats you kind of have to do everything
00:49:07
cuz there's like one of you for inside
00:49:09
and one of you for outside whereas on
00:49:10
the bigger boats like so the biggest one
00:49:13
that I worked on was a 95 meter called
00:49:15
Phoenix 2 it was like the most
00:49:16
prestigious in the industry it was so
00:49:19
amazing if you got managed to get a job
00:49:21
on there and it was so big that as you
00:49:23
are able to specialize so I was only
00:49:26
service so we had four girls that were
00:49:28
only service so I never had to clean I
00:49:30
never had to do laundry I was just doing
00:49:32
like cocktails and dinners and things
00:49:34
like that and then like the cabins are
00:49:36
nicer way more people to hang out with
00:49:39
you've got a chef that's just for the
00:49:41
crew so you've got these mean as buffets
00:49:43
like every lunch and dinner way nicer
00:49:46
uniform everything's just bigger and
00:49:49
better who who owns the boats are they
00:49:51
celebrities or are they just Rich super
00:49:53
rich people we never would have heard of
00:49:55
or yeah usually the people that own the
00:49:57
biggest boats like celebrities can't
00:50:00
really afford to own boats that big it's
00:50:03
like the Russians that have made heaps
00:50:05
of money yeah it's like so that boat was
00:50:08
owned by the richest family in Poland
00:50:10
it's like silly money I remember we used
00:50:13
to even just little things like I had
00:50:17
one I asked for a pay rise cuz I was
00:50:19
doing the job above me without the
00:50:21
official title and I was asked I think I
00:50:24
asked for like 300 more EUR a month or
00:50:27
something like that and I got it denied
00:50:29
and then they're coming on for and I'm
00:50:31
not sure if that's like the owner's
00:50:32
fault or just the person's fault not
00:50:33
wanting to spend any more money but then
00:50:35
they come on for a trip and they're like
00:50:38
doing shot they would do shots out of
00:50:40
these €2,000 each shot glasses like bear
00:50:43
at Crystal shot glasses and they do a
00:50:46
shot and then they're like woo and they
00:50:48
throw it up and they just throw it
00:50:49
overboard and I've got like €10,000 just
00:50:52
floating to the bottom of the ocean and
00:50:54
I can't get like 300 more a month and
00:50:57
I'm just like cool guys okay something's
00:51:00
not right here yeah so like the kind of
00:51:03
money they have is absolutely absurd
00:51:06
absurd and and you um you must see some
00:51:09
things or is is a so yeah so say
00:51:13
someone's cleaning one of the rooms and
00:51:15
there's like a plate with a a pile of
00:51:16
cocaine there oh yeah all the time you
00:51:18
just ignore it yeah yeah all the time
00:51:20
you always see like and like sheets with
00:51:23
just like [ __ ] all through the sheets or
00:51:24
like [ __ ] in the shower or like [ __ ] as
00:51:27
in as in as in feces yes as in literal
00:51:30
yes um I don't know having a bit of
00:51:33
cheeky anal but they don't bother to
00:51:35
like they just leave it you know like
00:51:36
most people would like actually rap the
00:51:38
like not let the next person deal with
00:51:39
embarrassed you don't they just like
00:51:41
well like they wouldn't flush the toilet
00:51:43
cuz they're like above flushing the
00:51:44
toilet and like my friend worked my
00:51:47
friend worked on this Russian boat and
00:51:50
the father and the son had this fetish
00:51:53
for girls on their period so what they'd
00:51:55
do is they'd fly in for prostitutes all
00:51:57
on a different week of their cycle so
00:52:00
each week they had a girl that they both
00:52:02
sleep with that was on the rag this is
00:52:05
outrageous yeah this is outrageous and
00:52:07
when when when things like this happens
00:52:10
for you guys the crew yeah everyone
00:52:12
gossips about it and talks about it yeah
00:52:14
oh yeah we love we love talking about it
00:52:17
but it's like you're you're not allowed
00:52:19
to go and you're not allowed to go and
00:52:20
say names or anything like that but um
00:52:24
oh it's so funny it's so funny I've seen
00:52:27
some things yeah and then so then from
00:52:30
there from there that's when that's when
00:52:33
below Dex came along so you're doing
00:52:35
these boats for five years yeah it was
00:52:37
like five or six years by the time I did
00:52:39
five years I think when I did below
00:52:41
started below deck yeah yeah that's this
00:52:45
yeah it's amazing you touched upon this
00:52:46
a second ago and you you gave the video
00:52:50
audition and um below started um so what
00:52:54
are your biggest surprises about that
00:52:55
first of all like the smoking smoking
00:52:57
mirrors of reality TV cuz a lot of
00:52:59
reality TV is quite contrived isn't it
00:53:01
it's like they have look at married
00:53:02
first sight they have like a template
00:53:04
and yeah so I think a couple things
00:53:08
surprised me the first one was how big
00:53:12
the show is cuz I didn't really know
00:53:14
about below deck as I said and it wasn't
00:53:16
until I'd done a season and I started
00:53:18
walking around in the states and people
00:53:20
are like oh my God you make go from that
00:53:22
show and I was like what and then I
00:53:25
realized that it's like one of Bravo's
00:53:29
it's like one of America's biggest
00:53:30
Network's biggest shows and I just had
00:53:33
no idea the scale of it when I went into
00:53:36
it and I was like oh my God like how
00:53:38
have I just managed to fall into this
00:53:40
position where I'm on such a big show
00:53:43
like how does this happen it was just
00:53:45
the buzziest realization it's a
00:53:47
juggernaut so your Bravo's got um Real
00:53:49
Housewives that's probably their biggest
00:53:51
franchise right yeah but and then below
00:53:53
below deck's actually bigger than them
00:53:54
now
00:53:55
people love it what was it about you
00:53:58
what was it about your audition how how
00:54:00
many minutes was it the video two
00:54:01
minutes I don't even remember what I
00:54:02
said I waited until I was at like Peak
00:54:05
hyperactivity and I like two days off
00:54:07
two days off the
00:54:09
Rin exactly I was like hi I'm ASA I
00:54:12
don't I really don't even remember what
00:54:14
I said but they obviously liked it um so
00:54:17
that surprised me how the scale of the
00:54:20
show and then the other thing was just
00:54:23
how impressive reality TV is it gave me
00:54:27
a whole it gave me this whole
00:54:29
appreciation for shows and how much work
00:54:33
goes into making them because what I
00:54:35
will say about below deck is it is the
00:54:38
most real reality show you'll ever see
00:54:41
it's they do not the fourth wall is
00:54:43
massive so they do not tell you to do
00:54:45
anything it's purely like a follow
00:54:48
documentary and I was actually talking
00:54:49
to a camera guy from it the other day
00:54:51
and he's like yeah after doing other
00:54:52
shows I can't believe how real below
00:54:55
deck is um but it was I remember my
00:54:58
first season and they said never change
00:55:00
up your movements to help out a camera
00:55:03
guy cuz we've got three cameramen sorry
00:55:06
camera people there was a woman um three
00:55:09
camera people and three audio people
00:55:12
that trail them everywhere plus cameras
00:55:14
in every room um like fix cameras um and
00:55:20
so I was like okay I can't change my
00:55:21
movements for them you've got to
00:55:22
completely ignore them and so we're
00:55:24
running around the boat trying to get
00:55:26
you you're trying to get cocktails and
00:55:28
things out to guess as quickly as
00:55:29
possible so sometimes you're actually
00:55:30
running and they're in front of you
00:55:33
going backwards as fast as you're going
00:55:35
forwards with this massive camera on
00:55:37
them and they like memorize the layout
00:55:39
the blueprint of the boat so then
00:55:40
they're stopping within like an inch of
00:55:44
going off the edge of like the stairs on
00:55:46
the after of the boat and I just used to
00:55:48
watch them like you guys are ninjas it's
00:55:51
so impressive their craft yeah
00:55:56
remarkable yeah so so the um so there's
00:56:00
there's the the below deck crew which
00:56:01
you're one of and then so who owns the
00:56:04
boats the Bravo like rent the boats yes
00:56:07
and then get you guys on board yeah and
00:56:09
then the the the guests that are on
00:56:11
board are they that's almost like props
00:56:13
on the show as well are they given like
00:56:15
a free trip or is it a discounted trip
00:56:17
or it's still I mean I don't they don't
00:56:20
like us to ever talk money and how much
00:56:22
it is but it's still like right you and
00:56:24
I would not go and do it yeah like I
00:56:26
mean you might but it's it's it's it's a
00:56:30
lot of money still to come on um for a
00:56:33
two night trip um so so yeah so you've
00:56:37
got the cast and then you've got
00:56:39
production um who we aren't allowed to
00:56:42
acknowledge I do now because I've been
00:56:44
doing it for so long um and then yeah
00:56:46
the they Charter they rent a boat for
00:56:51
this we filmed for 6 and 1/2 weeks and
00:56:53
they rent the boat for that time and the
00:56:55
crew that usually works on that boat
00:56:57
they send off on holiday or pay for them
00:56:59
to fly home or just like not be there
00:57:01
and then the the guests that they have
00:57:04
come on
00:57:05
they they audition them too so they've
00:57:08
all got to go through an audition
00:57:09
process to make sure they're actually
00:57:10
going to be interesting on TV right CU
00:57:13
you've done so many seasons now right
00:57:14
how many seasons have you four five uh
00:57:16
Five Seasons now yeah right so when so
00:57:19
when you're getting prepared to go away
00:57:21
for another season of filming what sort
00:57:23
of mindset are you in are you like okay
00:57:25
you got to bring your A game oh yeah
00:57:28
absolutely yeah yeah so I I take it so
00:57:32
seriously because I see well a because
00:57:36
I'm just I'm I think kiwis have a good
00:57:38
work ethic anyway and then I come from a
00:57:40
family of very hard workers so I'm very
00:57:42
anal about working hard um and also it's
00:57:46
just out of respect for the production
00:57:48
team cuz when I see how many hours and
00:57:52
hours and hours they put into watching
00:57:55
it and editing it and like crafting
00:57:58
these sto like you know locking down
00:58:00
these story lines that we see it's so
00:58:03
incredible how much of their life they
00:58:05
devote to it the whole year that I'm
00:58:08
like the least that I can do is come and
00:58:10
do my very best job too just out of
00:58:13
respect for the whole production yeah
00:58:14
100% And and it's been very successful
00:58:16
for you and I I I I get from what I've
00:58:19
read and heard Bravo love you you're one
00:58:21
of their one of their Golden Girls but
00:58:23
but what does that mean to do the best
00:58:25
you can is it just be your truest
00:58:28
authentic funniest self or yeah it's
00:58:31
just I cuz I think the thing is people
00:58:33
don't realize how grueling filming is
00:58:37
it's probably the hardest thing I've
00:58:38
ever done in my life it's we're doing
00:58:40
six and 1 half weeks of 16-hour days
00:58:44
every single day and I don't really take
00:58:46
breaks cuz I would rather give my girls
00:58:48
breaks and make sure that they got a
00:58:49
little break um before I give one to
00:58:52
myself and usually we're too busy and
00:58:54
I'll just carry on and so we're doing
00:58:56
these 16 hour days and then every fourth
00:58:59
day we're having to go out and we don't
00:59:02
have to get drunk but we go out and we
00:59:04
tend to get drunk and so then we're even
00:59:07
more sleep deprived and then the day
00:59:08
after that we've got to clean the whole
00:59:10
boat and do our confessional interviews
00:59:13
and it's just so grueling and so intense
00:59:17
and it's really easy for people like
00:59:20
halfway through to let their energy slip
00:59:22
and they're not like they're not wor
00:59:24
working quite as hard or they're not
00:59:26
giving quite as much energy because
00:59:27
they're exhausted and for me giving it
00:59:31
everything I have means right up until
00:59:34
we rap giving it every single ounce of
00:59:37
energy I possibly can and I'm always
00:59:39
real I'm always genuine I never put on
00:59:41
like a character but yeah for me it's
00:59:44
just like doing my job my job as a
00:59:46
Chief's stew as best I can like so so
00:59:50
hard and then doing my job as you know
00:59:53
bringing my personality my energy every
00:59:55
day making sure I keep that up right to
00:59:57
the end cuz I mean it's so easy to just
01:00:00
let it slip cuz you're you just want to
01:00:02
go to bed and sleep but you can't yeah
01:00:04
and I suppose if you're if you're boring
01:00:06
or you're not bringing your aame you're
01:00:07
not going to you're not going to make
01:00:08
the edit you're going to get less screen
01:00:10
time it has this massive um negative
01:00:12
ripple effect well and I think at the
01:00:14
end of the day I take it really
01:00:16
seriously the fact that I'm like their
01:00:18
lead role you know they've hired me
01:00:20
because they like my personality and
01:00:22
they want me to help carry carry the
01:00:24
show and so if they've chosen me over
01:00:28
all these other people and they're
01:00:29
relying on me to be an interesting
01:00:31
person and then halfway through I'm like
01:00:33
oh I'm pretty tired I'm just going to do
01:00:35
the bare minimum to get through the day
01:00:38
that's not what they're paying for and
01:00:39
that's not what they're relying on you
01:00:41
know and it's I think you need to bring
01:00:42
to the party what they've hired you to
01:00:44
do oh that's such a good attitude yeah
01:00:47
yeah you got to take it seriously toally
01:00:49
and I I read somewhere this may be may
01:00:51
not be that you do you do all your own
01:00:53
negotiations and contracts and stuff so
01:00:55
did they they [ __ ] you over early on and
01:00:57
now the money's got really good yeah
01:00:59
exactly you know it yeah what was what
01:01:01
was it in season one can you say that oh
01:01:03
I can't they don't they you can't talk
01:01:05
about money because they they don't like
01:01:07
it but um it wasn't great it was kind of
01:01:10
like it was like what you might have it
01:01:13
was what you would have gotten paid for
01:01:14
like a non-f filmed season just a normal
01:01:17
yachting season but you wanted to be on
01:01:18
TV so badly you would have paid them
01:01:20
yeah oh totally totally I would have
01:01:23
been like yeah but not anything yeah um
01:01:26
so the F and then the second one was
01:01:28
slightly better and then once I kind of
01:01:31
managed to establish myself as like a
01:01:33
fan favorite and could could kind of be
01:01:36
like look I know I know how much you
01:01:38
guys want me kind of thing now I'm able
01:01:41
to negotiate much better it's all supply
01:01:43
and demand isn't it yeah how how badly
01:01:46
they want you so so there was one thing
01:01:48
um so you had a boyfriend on the show
01:01:51
for a while this guy Jack yeah and there
01:01:53
was a scene where he Willy Jack he um he
01:01:56
like um proposed to you to be his his
01:01:58
his girlfriend yeah and he had like body
01:02:00
paint on him and stuff like that was so
01:02:02
is that his own idea or is that a Bravo
01:02:04
idea like the producers are they like
01:02:06
hey you should do this no as I say the
01:02:09
producers never ever tell you to do
01:02:11
anything they do not intervene at all he
01:02:13
actually said to production he was like
01:02:16
oh I really want to ask AA to be my
01:02:18
girlfriend do like he was like do you
01:02:19
mind if I do it and they're obviously
01:02:21
like well yeah of course it's great for
01:02:23
story like do what you want
01:02:25
um but he he asked me because he wanted
01:02:27
to take me on a date afterwards just me
01:02:29
and him cuz usually usually it would be
01:02:33
the whole group goes out for the dinner
01:02:34
but he wanted just a one-on-one so he
01:02:36
asked them and and they were like yep
01:02:37
we'll organize a dinner for you um but
01:02:41
yeah that was all that was his idea and
01:02:43
it was it's so silly because I think
01:02:46
it's one of those things where there's
01:02:48
this thing called boat goggles and
01:02:51
everyone experiences it at some point
01:02:54
and it's like you're stuck on a boat
01:02:55
you're in a bubble there's no one else
01:02:57
that's an option and Jack when I first
01:03:00
came on I remember he told me this story
01:03:04
about how he was a builder in London
01:03:06
living on a house boat and that if the
01:03:09
weather wasn't good he just couldn't be
01:03:11
bothered going so he just wouldn't show
01:03:13
up to work and then eventually he got
01:03:14
fired and I remember just listening to
01:03:16
that story and being like oh that is so
01:03:18
unattractive like who just who doesn't
01:03:21
go to work just cuz it's cold like
01:03:23
[ __ ] get up and go to work you know
01:03:25
such a poor attitude yeah such a bad and
01:03:27
I remember think it was so unattractive
01:03:28
and I really like I thought he was like
01:03:30
a funny guy but I wasn't attracted to
01:03:31
him but then sure enough as the weeks go
01:03:34
on and we're like there's no one else in
01:03:38
sight he suddenly somehow got funnier
01:03:40
and funnier and then he got attractive
01:03:42
and you like you start seeing things
01:03:44
that you didn't see before and so we
01:03:46
kind of like started this fling and he
01:03:48
asked me his girlfriend and I said yes
01:03:50
but then it was almost it was almost
01:03:52
like as soon as we wrapped we were I was
01:03:54
like this there's no way like this can
01:03:57
work out this isn't going to be a thing
01:03:59
um and so I and I think he thought the
01:04:02
same thing but I didn't have a chance to
01:04:03
talk to him about it before he went off
01:04:05
to London and then so then he was in
01:04:07
London and I was trying
01:04:09
to call him to get away to go over there
01:04:12
to end it cuz we were CU I was like this
01:04:15
is just we can't like carry this on it's
01:04:17
yeah and um and I was trying to get over
01:04:19
there and anyway long story short he was
01:04:22
like oh don't come over yet cuz I've got
01:04:24
family and I've got this wedding and
01:04:25
it's just like a really difficult time
01:04:27
and blah blah and then I ended up seeing
01:04:29
on his ex-girlfriend's story that she
01:04:31
was at the wedding with him and so I
01:04:33
just I finally managed to get in touch
01:04:35
with him and I was like so you're at
01:04:37
this wedding and I'm like he's like yeah
01:04:39
and I'm like so Kell's there and he's
01:04:40
like yeah and I'm like so you [ __ ]
01:04:42
Kelly he's like yeah I'm like okay cool
01:04:47
like thanks for having a conversation
01:04:48
with me before you go and like get back
01:04:51
with your ex-girlfriend so anyway that
01:04:53
was done it was a shame how it ended cuz
01:04:56
we actually were really really good
01:04:58
friends and I just felt a little bit
01:05:00
betrayed as a friend but it was never
01:05:02
going to be a longterm thing and Below
01:05:05
dick land is he like a villain because
01:05:07
of that yes is he I know and that's the
01:05:09
thing cuz people were so like people
01:05:11
were so loyal to me that not like he's
01:05:15
kind of like he's just had to kind of
01:05:18
keep his head down ever since cuz it
01:05:19
came out that he like you know
01:05:21
essentially cheated on me and I was
01:05:23
supposed to be going to and all this
01:05:25
stuff and so yeah everyone very much had
01:05:27
their pitchforks out and trying to stab
01:05:30
Jack it's it's so funny because it's it
01:05:32
is such a big show there's so many
01:05:33
people invested in it and as I said I've
01:05:35
never seen a full episode but I've been
01:05:36
learning all this stuff and it's like oh
01:05:38
I wonder how the wonder how the
01:05:39
community react to that there was
01:05:41
another one um who's Chef Ryan you and
01:05:43
Chef Ryan
01:05:46
Ryan I have not met a more arrogant
01:05:49
prick in my life and I don't say that
01:05:52
lightly because I think everyone has got
01:05:54
so many beautiful special things about
01:05:56
them no one is like just a prick but
01:06:00
God he's like he's a really hard one to
01:06:04
find all the nice things in
01:06:07
like he was a tough work man yeah cuz I
01:06:11
saw some episodes on YouTube of um the
01:06:13
the Andy Cohen Show Watch What Happens
01:06:15
Live and there was one with Ryan talking
01:06:17
about you then another one of you
01:06:18
talking about him and it was you could
01:06:21
just see the disdain yeah um mutually
01:06:24
both ways I think oh yeah it was just it
01:06:27
was so hard cuz that was my first season
01:06:29
as Chief STW and I was on this boat this
01:06:32
boat that was the size of you should
01:06:34
have had four stews but they only ever
01:06:36
do three stews so it was three of us on
01:06:39
a four person boat and it was my first
01:06:43
full season as a chief stew and you're
01:06:45
being filmed and all of this and then I
01:06:47
had a like a terrible Chef who was just
01:06:50
a cook really like didn't really know
01:06:52
how to cook and was an absolute [ __ ]
01:06:54
and so it was a mix of that that was the
01:06:58
most stressful season I ever done in my
01:07:00
life I remember I used to wake up at
01:07:02
2:00 in the morning every morning just
01:07:04
not like damp from sweat like actual
01:07:06
Rivers running down off my body just so
01:07:10
stressed out I didn't take one break all
01:07:12
season and yeah so I was already so
01:07:14
stressed and then to top it off I had
01:07:16
this guy who had this absolute attitude
01:07:20
and just didn't really know how to cook
01:07:22
and he had this attitude where it's like
01:07:25
no the guest should listen to me so on a
01:07:28
yach the guests they're paying so much
01:07:30
money to be on there they do whatever
01:07:32
the [ __ ] they want and we dance around
01:07:34
it and you get vague times but you
01:07:38
everyone knows it's never going to be
01:07:40
that exact time because if they are in
01:07:42
their rooms for longer or if they want
01:07:45
to Jet scare for longer it's always
01:07:46
going to change and you have to let them
01:07:48
of course and so like you know just an
01:07:50
example of one time we I said like oh
01:07:52
yeah the guests are wanting dinner
01:07:53
around around 8 and so it was like okay
01:07:56
and then it was getting to 8 and they
01:07:57
still getting changed and I hadn't sit
01:07:59
on the radio I had not said anything
01:08:01
about like cuz I'd always be like oh the
01:08:03
guests are making their way to the table
01:08:05
I can see the guests coming up from the
01:08:06
cabin just so you know like you know you
01:08:08
kind of communicate that and I hadn't
01:08:10
said anything which means they're
01:08:13
nowhere near the table and I like so
01:08:16
they hadn't even come out of the cabins
01:08:17
yet and I run downstairs and the burgers
01:08:19
are all just sitting there on their
01:08:21
plates and he's like well you said he
01:08:23
just get us this atude and he's like you
01:08:24
know you see the um dinners at 8:00 so
01:08:27
he's like if if you can't Wrangle the
01:08:28
guest and if you can't control your
01:08:30
guest and get them to dinner at 8:00
01:08:31
that's your fault I've done my job
01:08:33
they're here and they're ready and he
01:08:35
refused to like recook them and that was
01:08:38
the kind and that was the kind of
01:08:39
attitude I was dealing with all season
01:08:42
and so that's why I ended up saying to
01:08:43
him I'm like how many Yachts have you
01:08:45
actually worked on because that's not
01:08:48
how this works we don't stick to these
01:08:52
times like a stick CL
01:08:54
and that's where that whole famous scene
01:08:56
blew up where he's like well how many
01:08:57
vacuums have you pushed and I you know
01:09:00
like oh my God and there was yeah well
01:09:05
that's F it's the um Bravo must love it
01:09:07
though because it's great it's great for
01:09:09
you know you said before it's um it's
01:09:12
very organic reality TV but they I guess
01:09:14
they still want conflict and drama so
01:09:16
when things like that happen they must
01:09:17
be frothing about it oh yeah they love
01:09:19
it and that's why they try and cast
01:09:22
people who they know will be
01:09:23
controversial
01:09:26
you know but he was just he was just
01:09:30
um very difficult and then afterwards he
01:09:34
cuz I never react I knew that all he
01:09:36
wanted was like reaction so when we left
01:09:39
filming I i' never reacted to anything
01:09:42
that he had said on his Instagram or
01:09:44
anything and he used to put these
01:09:46
stories up where he would Photoshop
01:09:48
pictures of me like on the Titanic or
01:09:50
like spend all this time photoshopping
01:09:52
pictures of me into these weird weird
01:09:53
scenes and like just making fun of me
01:09:56
and insulting me and I never responded I
01:09:58
never responded to them once I only saw
01:10:01
them cuz people would screenshot them
01:10:02
and send them to me and then the next
01:10:04
season they were asking me about what
01:10:06
the chef was like last season so of
01:10:08
course I comment on it and then next
01:10:09
thing you know he's on his Instagram
01:10:10
like oh my God she's so obsessed with me
01:10:14
you know she just keeps talking about me
01:10:16
and I'm like she's the guy who's like
01:10:18
spending all of his time photoshopping
01:10:21
photos of me on to the Titanic like yeah
01:10:24
you were living rentree in his head yeah
01:10:27
but you know I think it's just PA of the
01:10:29
course with reality TV you're going to
01:10:30
come across these people like a lot of
01:10:33
narcissists are attracted to reality TV
01:10:36
yeah of course and there was a massive
01:10:38
story last year um about you intervening
01:10:40
and stopping um a likely or probable or
01:10:44
possible sexual assault um yeah what was
01:10:47
the go with that so this is during
01:10:49
filming this is during filming yeah and
01:10:52
this was quite a huge moment for I think
01:10:56
reality reality TV in general because
01:10:59
nothing like this has ever been shown
01:11:01
before and you never really see
01:11:03
producers intervene either so that night
01:11:06
we'd been out um we did drink a lot Luke
01:11:09
was someone who would always like really
01:11:12
push the shots and the alcohol and all
01:11:15
of that and um we were coming home and I
01:11:17
don't know why exactly but I just my
01:11:21
Spidey senses started tingling and I was
01:11:23
like something is just off here like I
01:11:25
don't feel right about something I
01:11:28
didn't really know what and I was we
01:11:30
were in the Vans and I was in the seat
01:11:32
in front of Margot and Luke and I
01:11:35
remember Margot was sitting there and
01:11:37
she was so out of it she was wasted like
01:11:41
you know you know you know when when the
01:11:43
eyes on what saying yeah on nobody's
01:11:47
yeah so it was like that and I remember
01:11:49
Luke like kind of prompted her head to
01:11:51
go down onto his lap and
01:11:54
you know put her down there so that she
01:11:55
was lying on his lap and this could be
01:11:57
completely wrong but I thought I heard a
01:12:00
zip go down and it was just this kind of
01:12:02
situation where even even if it didn't
01:12:04
even just her head being on his lap I
01:12:05
didn't like it cuz I could see how out
01:12:08
of it she was and so as soon as the van
01:12:11
stopped I was like I the I just all I
01:12:14
saw I had this one track mine I was like
01:12:16
I have to get my go to bed that's all I
01:12:18
was thinking that's all I wanted to do
01:12:20
so we got out of the Vans and I grabbed
01:12:21
Margot and I'm like yep we're going to
01:12:23
beard I'm taking her to bed no one come
01:12:25
with us and I March her down and I put
01:12:27
her into bed and um and you know some of
01:12:31
the guys tried to come in and I was like
01:12:33
no you guys need to leave her alone
01:12:35
leave Margo she's going to bed now like
01:12:37
I don't want anyone else in this cabin
01:12:39
and because people had tried to come in
01:12:42
I got back into bed with her and I like
01:12:44
they didn't show obviously because they
01:12:45
can't do a whole episode of me lying in
01:12:47
bed they didn't show how long I was in
01:12:49
bed with her for so I was laying in bed
01:12:51
with her for like 45 50 minutes kind of
01:12:54
thing just making sure she was okay just
01:12:56
making sure all you yeah everything else
01:12:59
died died died away went to sleep yeah I
01:13:02
didn't want anyone else to come in and
01:13:04
and I wanted to make sure she fell
01:13:05
asleep and she was okay um and then you
01:13:09
know but we're so sleep deprived we had
01:13:11
so much to do the next day that it got
01:13:13
to almost 1 and I was like I've just got
01:13:16
to I've been here for so long I need to
01:13:18
get to bed myself so I got got out of
01:13:21
bed went to the crew mess and started
01:13:23
making my my 2-minute noodles which by
01:13:25
the way I'm still waiting for a magi uh
01:13:27
sponsorship because the amount of
01:13:29
noodles I bloody ate on the show I
01:13:31
deserve it um so I got out of bed I did
01:13:33
my usual ritual of making my two-minute
01:13:36
noodles and I was standing at the
01:13:37
microwave waiting for them and I just
01:13:39
hear this no no no no no and I turn
01:13:42
around and there's like two producers
01:13:44
and another girl from production
01:13:47
sprinting down the stairs and sprinting
01:13:49
past me and I'm just like holy [ __ ] like
01:13:51
what is going on one of the actually ran
01:13:54
down the stairs so F she uh broke her
01:13:57
ankle and yeah they're just like no no
01:13:59
no they run past and they're at maro's
01:14:02
door and they're banging on it they're
01:14:03
like no no stop stop stop and I was like
01:14:06
holy [ __ ] and I just was like in shock
01:14:09
um and I kind of gauged from their
01:14:13
reaction that Luke must have come out of
01:14:16
his cabin and gone into her cabin uh and
01:14:19
so you know I kind of popped my head
01:14:20
around and saw what was happening and he
01:14:23
was pushing on the door and he actually
01:14:25
pushed back on the door so hard that
01:14:27
then he broke a producer's toe it was
01:14:29
very hectic so I could kind of I kind of
01:14:32
figured what was going on um and I ended
01:14:35
up just going into my cabin and sitting
01:14:37
on the floor and crying because I felt
01:14:40
like I had I felt like I had failed
01:14:45
Margo you know cuz I feel I put so much
01:14:48
time and effort into making sure she got
01:14:50
to her bed and making sure that nothing
01:14:52
happened that it just yeah I just felt
01:14:55
like I had failed her and so I was so
01:14:58
upset and I yeah went back to her
01:15:00
cabin what else could you have done
01:15:02
though apart from just crash out and
01:15:03
stay the night with her yeah and and
01:15:05
that's the thing like it's not like I
01:15:07
know looking back on it that it's not
01:15:09
like it was my fault and I did I did so
01:15:12
much for her but I still felt like I
01:15:14
failed her in a way um so yes then I
01:15:17
went back in and I made sure she was
01:15:19
asleep and then I did stay with her
01:15:21
until she was fully asleep and
01:15:24
um yeah and then I went back to my cabin
01:15:26
and then I was like well I've got to go
01:15:28
tell Jason and so then that's when I
01:15:30
went and told Jason and he Jason's the
01:15:32
captain yeah sorry I told Captain Jason
01:15:34
and I was really upset so I was crying
01:15:37
when I was talking to him and and yeah
01:15:39
he came down and told L Luke to pack his
01:15:42
bag straight away and got him off the
01:15:43
boat it was like 3: in the morning um
01:15:46
and yeah got him off the boat straight
01:15:48
away and it was just I think it was
01:15:50
really cool
01:15:52
that Bravo decided that they wanted to
01:15:55
include that and show that cuz as I say
01:15:58
there's nothing like that has ever been
01:16:00
shown on real reality TV before and what
01:16:04
I think was really good coming from that
01:16:06
was I was so um I was so warmed by the
01:16:13
reaction because the overwhelming
01:16:15
reaction was
01:16:17
that everyone was so disgusted by it and
01:16:20
they're like oh my you know there needs
01:16:21
to be consent and and you know like all
01:16:25
of this talk around consent and saying
01:16:27
no and that kind of thing and I was like
01:16:29
wow the fact that the all of the public
01:16:31
is reacting in This Way shows me that as
01:16:34
a society we're moving in the right
01:16:36
direction when it comes to consent and
01:16:38
sexual assults and what we stand for
01:16:42
absolutely and I but I feel like this
01:16:44
grew um even even if you're not a below
01:16:46
deck Watcher this became like bigger
01:16:48
than the show itself right tot you must
01:16:51
got their feeling at the time it was um
01:16:53
everywhere the story oh ABS it was
01:16:55
absolutely everywhere and I think what I
01:16:58
found the
01:16:59
hardest I was so warmed by that and I I
01:17:02
loved the reaction I and I think it got
01:17:05
everyone talking about really important
01:17:08
messages um but I think the hard part
01:17:12
was that I never wanted anyone to think
01:17:15
that I
01:17:17
was like capitalizing
01:17:20
off a really horrible situ situation you
01:17:23
know cuz I had so many magazines and
01:17:26
different places call it like trying to
01:17:27
get articles out of me and stuff and I
01:17:30
actually said no to pretty much all of
01:17:31
them because I didn't want to gain any
01:17:33
sort of
01:17:35
following yeah from from something that
01:17:37
you should just do anyway and from
01:17:39
someone else's Misfortune cuz it
01:17:41
actually really [ __ ] with Margo's head
01:17:43
like um cuz we told her about the next
01:17:46
day and it was actually something that
01:17:48
she really has struggled with and she
01:17:51
got when she started getting therapy
01:17:53
afterwards and really had to work
01:17:54
through it cuz she's such a beautiful
01:17:56
innocent like girl next door kind of
01:17:58
girl and um yeah and she just really
01:18:01
struggle with it so I didn't want to
01:18:02
play on anyone's Misfortune and get some
01:18:05
sort of gain for myself you know well I
01:18:08
didn't come across any negativity around
01:18:09
that but I'm sure there there has been
01:18:12
over the years because if you put
01:18:13
yourself out there for a show like below
01:18:14
deck you're going to get it how how have
01:18:16
you coped over the years adjusting to
01:18:18
being in the public eye and the trolling
01:18:20
and the mean comments and stuff have
01:18:22
have you been you to much of that oh a
01:18:25
little bit but I'm I'm really lucky that
01:18:29
I would say
01:18:30
98% of my feedback is really positive
01:18:34
which I'm so lucky about I honestly
01:18:36
attribute so much of My Success to my
01:18:38
kiwi accent because anything that you
01:18:39
say with a kiwi accent Americans are
01:18:41
like ohow you're so funny you're so cute
01:18:45
you know it's such a novelty to them but
01:18:48
um the the negative comments that I
01:18:50
always get are God she sounds so whiny
01:18:54
because yeah cuz I'm always like oh my
01:18:57
God cuz every time I'm excited I'm like
01:18:59
oh that's so cool and you know people
01:19:02
say that I'm whiny and the biggest one
01:19:04
is just that my voice is really annoying
01:19:06
but comments like that I'm like I can't
01:19:08
change my voice I don't give a [ __ ] you
01:19:11
know and every time people most of the
01:19:13
time that people see me in public
01:19:15
they're like I always hear your voice
01:19:16
and then I follow the voice and so I'm
01:19:18
like having a unique voice is a good
01:19:20
thing cuz that's what's going to make me
01:19:22
stand
01:19:23
another thing to make you stand out from
01:19:25
people so I don't know the negative
01:19:27
comments that I do get just really don't
01:19:30
bother me you know and I think for me
01:19:33
I've got I've I don't have I've got a
01:19:35
good self-esteem like I'm not insecure
01:19:37
and I've got enough people around me
01:19:40
that love me unconditionally that I
01:19:42
don't really care if Barbara in Kansas
01:19:44
thinks my voice in a way you know like
01:19:46
it's done pretty well for me so yeah
01:19:48
100% And you yeah you've got such a good
01:19:50
attitude which I'm guess and I'm
01:19:51
guessing part of that comes from um the
01:19:52
way way you were raised and your dad and
01:19:54
the way that he he communicated with you
01:19:57
guys but
01:19:58
also you know some could say you're at
01:20:00
the higher risk of um like being an
01:20:02
alcoholic yourself or having mental
01:20:04
health issues yourself and it seems like
01:20:07
you from the chat we've had the last
01:20:08
hour 20 there's you know there's none of
01:20:09
that with you no which I'm really lucky
01:20:12
for like my as I say I think I think in
01:20:15
a lot of ways my siblings are like why
01:20:18
did you just get away with all this
01:20:20
stuff because they have really struggled
01:20:22
with addiction um not alcohol but other
01:20:26
things and um depression and anxiety and
01:20:30
I don't have an I don't have an
01:20:31
addictive personality at all um and my
01:20:35
brain chemistry is fortunately very in
01:20:38
my favor um I guess the only things that
01:20:41
I get from Mom is I'm very OCD like I
01:20:44
was talking to you about this before the
01:20:45
show I can get a bit obsessive with
01:20:47
things but nothing that's like any sort
01:20:49
of huge detriment to my life so I just
01:20:53
um I've just managed to navigate this
01:20:56
whole path uh in a way that's really
01:21:00
benefited me somehow well it seems like
01:21:03
just by being your true and authentic
01:21:04
self it's working bloody well for you
01:21:06
yeah yeah totally oh let's talk about
01:21:09
Scott for a bit so so Scott Dobson your
01:21:11
partner um hopefully getting engaged in
01:21:14
the next year yes I would
01:21:16
H SC um so you guys you you guys went to
01:21:21
school together he's from to well like
01:21:23
Primary School Intermediate second High
01:21:24
School yeah so were you did you go to
01:21:27
the ball together or anything or no I
01:21:29
was actually at his 18th didn't even
01:21:31
realize it was his party and was on his
01:21:34
driveway crying about some other guy
01:21:36
that had just cheated on
01:21:39
me so we um yes so we went to high
01:21:42
school together but he was in my
01:21:44
brother's year so he was the year above
01:21:46
me and it was one of those situations
01:21:49
where I didn't care about guys from cuz
01:21:51
I went to bethle I didn't care about
01:21:53
guys from betham that was boring I was
01:21:55
always hanging out with guys from like
01:21:56
toonga boys or OD Modi um and then also
01:22:00
cuz my brother was in the year above it
01:22:01
was one of those things where no one was
01:22:03
allowed to touch Jared's younger sister
01:22:05
so none of the guys were really
01:22:06
interested in me anyway um so yeah just
01:22:09
acquaintances we'd say hi when we walk
01:22:11
past each other that kind of thing and
01:22:13
then fast forward about 10 years his mom
01:22:16
is American so he got a scholarship for
01:22:20
socccer at at American College so he
01:22:22
went to UNI over there um went on a
01:22:26
motorbike trip one day through brick and
01:22:27
ridge loved it never left so he was in
01:22:30
bricken Ridge which is in Colorado and
01:22:33
then I started going back and forth to
01:22:36
La a lot for below deck and interviews
01:22:38
and stuff like that and he was always
01:22:40
really good at catching up with anyone
01:22:42
that came over to the West Coast side um
01:22:45
to catch up cuz not that many kiwis do
01:22:48
so he saw that I was one day messaged me
01:22:51
um sorry if you didn't actually want
01:22:53
want the whole story by the way oh no no
01:22:55
do it's great um so messaged me and then
01:22:59
um and I was actually sitting at the
01:23:01
gate about to fly off to do season 5
01:23:05
filming and then flying home so the
01:23:08
timing was really bad I was like oh
01:23:09
sorry I'm I'm doing all this stuff and I
01:23:11
was really busy um and I and at the time
01:23:14
but I did find him really interesting
01:23:16
and at the time I wasn't interested in
01:23:18
him in that way he was just like a cool
01:23:20
guy from home so I would take like a
01:23:22
week to reply to him kind of thing this
01:23:24
was in October and then by Christmas we
01:23:29
were messaging like every single day and
01:23:32
like waiting for each other's messages
01:23:33
cuz over time I just found it more and
01:23:35
more interesting and then eventually
01:23:36
developed a crash and realiz he did all
01:23:39
these cool things that which was how I
01:23:41
wanted my life to look and so
01:23:43
adventurous and exciting uh and then it
01:23:46
got to Jan end of January and we were
01:23:49
like really messaging every day and like
01:23:50
flirting and all this thing and so I was
01:23:53
like I've just got to take my chance and
01:23:55
so I said look why don't I just come
01:23:57
over and see you for a couple of weeks
01:23:59
let's like do a I'll come over for a
01:24:01
holiday he was like yes yes come over
01:24:04
and he was living in his converted
01:24:05
ambulance at the time so we started
01:24:07
talking in October by the end of at the
01:24:09
end of February I flew over to Colorado
01:24:13
and we did a twoe road trip in his
01:24:15
ambulance and it was so cute when I
01:24:18
landed uh I was walking out of arrivals
01:24:21
and he was standing like this hot like
01:24:23
this hot like Mountain Cowboy guy
01:24:25
leading against his truck and I ran
01:24:28
towards him and we had our first kiss at
01:24:30
the airport and we did this two week
01:24:32
road trip and it was just magic it was
01:24:35
so you just said a new straight away at
01:24:37
the airport because of all the
01:24:38
communication You' had leading up to
01:24:39
yeah yeah totally new but we were still
01:24:42
like because we're still both very
01:24:44
logical kind of people at the end of
01:24:46
that trip we were like well let's not
01:24:48
put a label on it yet like we've been in
01:24:50
this false environment um of course
01:24:52
we're going to be sew into each other
01:24:54
when we're like kaying through canyons
01:24:56
and stuff cuz it was like this extreme
01:24:59
sports kind of two weeks it was it's
01:25:00
like an Instagram highlights real
01:25:02
relationship to yeah exactly and we're
01:25:04
like of course we're going to be sewing
01:25:05
to each other let's just like wait a bit
01:25:08
so I flew back to New Zealand and I flew
01:25:11
back to New Zealand cuz I was meant to
01:25:12
be doing Dancing with the Stars and 5
01:25:15
days later all the lockdowns happen and
01:25:17
I was stuck at home so we' just had this
01:25:19
magical two weeks and then I was stuck
01:25:22
in the house for we didn't know how long
01:25:24
at that time and we even said we were
01:25:27
like well do he was like do we just not
01:25:29
like do this cuz we've got no idea how
01:25:31
long you're going to be stuck in New
01:25:32
Zealand blah blah and I remember sitting
01:25:34
on the bed and I was like I'm not going
01:25:36
to let Co be the reason that we don't
01:25:38
see what we could
01:25:40
be know he's like yep no okay I agree um
01:25:45
and so yeah s week we just facetimed and
01:25:47
S weeks later as soon as we went from
01:25:49
level four to level three I went back
01:25:51
over there and yeah and then it was all
01:25:54
on and here we are it's been almost 4
01:25:57
years now amazing and you're looking at
01:25:58
buying a house yeah and it I think it
01:26:01
was really special for me because we we
01:26:03
only moved back about a month ago um and
01:26:06
until then I was primarily based in the
01:26:08
States but I'm someone who's just like I
01:26:12
froth New Zealand so hard I think it's
01:26:15
just the best country the best culture
01:26:16
the best everything so being in the
01:26:19
states and having someone there where
01:26:21
it's like oh remember this teacher you
01:26:23
know this road you know this suburb or
01:26:25
pies all four square like having someone
01:26:28
that you could like talk about New
01:26:29
Zealand like you got that connection was
01:26:32
really really special for me yeah that's
01:26:34
cool so we're together basically cuz of
01:26:36
the four square that's wonderful yeah no
01:26:39
it was really nice and and his parents
01:26:41
live in toonga so it's just all been
01:26:44
really nice God you're so family
01:26:46
orientated oh yeah my family is my
01:26:49
everything I love them well that's been
01:26:51
an hour hour 26 hey Nico how are we
01:26:53
going for time with the hard
01:26:55
drive okay all right well should we um
01:26:58
oh oh we didn't even get Tober to get me
01:27:00
out of here yeah the Australian show you
01:27:02
finish thing how much time have you got
01:27:05
I do have a meeting at 1 so I've only
01:27:07
really got like 10 more minutes okay
01:27:09
sorry oh no that's cool you you you did
01:27:11
say an hour and a half and we're almost
01:27:12
at an hour and a half now um yes I'm a
01:27:15
cbody to get me out of here you finished
01:27:17
third yes yeah what was what was Honey
01:27:19
Bear you like he was yeah he was great
01:27:22
he was he was one of those guys he came
01:27:25
in and he was like he kind of became
01:27:28
Camp daddy straight away cuz he is just
01:27:30
like a man of the earth like he comes in
01:27:33
with his big Whip and he he deserves how
01:27:36
to whip so hard and he it's almost like
01:27:38
he will look at a fire and it just goes
01:27:41
yes Nick yes Nick and this fire just
01:27:44
appears out of nowhere and like birds
01:27:45
come and D in his hands and he'll eat
01:27:47
the burd I mean not really but it's just
01:27:49
like he's like the survival
01:27:53
Guru like he's such a guy he's such a
01:27:55
lad you know he did did he say his show
01:27:57
and I think he finished like top three
01:27:58
or top two incredible yeah so that was
01:28:00
really cool he was I must say he was
01:28:03
pretty hard to get to know because he
01:28:05
came in two weeks late cuz he was like
01:28:07
the wild card and then I think it kind
01:28:11
of felt like he didn't really want to be
01:28:13
there so we had all been in Camp and we
01:28:15
had these really strong bonds um and
01:28:17
then he came in and he was lovely but
01:28:20
you could kind of get you kind of got
01:28:21
the feeling he didn't really want to
01:28:24
establish didn't really care about
01:28:26
establishing make friends friendships
01:28:29
yeah so I did find him quite hard to get
01:28:32
to know but you know that's cool we're
01:28:33
all on our own path he had a new baby at
01:28:36
home he probably just wanted to be back
01:28:38
with the baby but wanted some money so
01:28:40
and like no one took it personally but
01:28:42
he was probably the one that I got to
01:28:43
know the least yeah I feel like you you
01:28:46
you would have an ability to get to know
01:28:47
just about anybody well that's the
01:28:50
that's why I found it so bizarre cuz I
01:28:52
was like I was actually trying I was
01:28:53
like I'm going to get him I'm going to
01:28:55
get him and he just like didn't give
01:28:57
anyone anything really so I was like oh
01:29:00
okay you know yeah and so what's your
01:29:02
future going to look like cuz you still
01:29:03
want to do more TV yeah do you want to
01:29:06
get into hosting or is it just but I
01:29:08
feel like your strength is definitely
01:29:10
things that um highlight your
01:29:11
personality yeah so I really want to
01:29:14
continue with TV I want to do below deck
01:29:17
for another few years just because since
01:29:19
it is a go a global show you know it's
01:29:22
all over the world it's there's no way
01:29:25
with any not many other shows could
01:29:27
offer me the ability to raise my profile
01:29:30
that much you know like um so it is it's
01:29:34
a really great show to be in when you're
01:29:36
trying to grow your name and then after
01:29:39
a couple of SE after a couple more
01:29:41
seasons I really want to shift into
01:29:43
hosting like I really want to host like
01:29:47
love island or The Amazing Race like
01:29:49
Sophie Monk Is someone who I really look
01:29:51
up to I think she's so cool and I
01:29:53
basically want to do what she's doing
01:29:56
you know I want to shift into that host
01:29:57
but somewhere where it's like not
01:29:59
hosting where I have to follow a script
01:30:01
like I want to do hosting where where I
01:30:03
can just be me cuz as you say that's
01:30:05
your strength yeah I that's my strength
01:30:07
I'm great at being me if you get me to
01:30:09
like I'm the worst actress ever I was an
01:30:12
extra in Shen Street a couple times and
01:30:14
it was horrific I cannot act to save
01:30:17
myself so I just need to do things where
01:30:19
I can just I just need to do things
01:30:20
where I can just be myself yeah I I I
01:30:23
love how open you are about what you
01:30:24
want to do I feel like that's sort of
01:30:25
manifesting in the way and opening doors
01:30:28
um all right okay we'll end with a few
01:30:30
random bits off the internet so I heard
01:30:32
um Slice of Heaven you want that to be
01:30:33
your funeral song yes that's random that
01:30:37
is so Random every time it comes on I
01:30:39
like look at Scott and he's like yes
01:30:40
honey I know you want it as your funeral
01:30:42
song you don't have to tell me every
01:30:44
time it's on so when we're in the jungle
01:30:48
um near the end of it we all got to pick
01:30:50
a song to play um cuz you can't listen
01:30:53
to any music or anything in there and
01:30:54
that was my song that I got to play and
01:30:56
it was so we're all in the camp like
01:31:01
da just like starving and going all
01:31:04
these bones crashing together but so
01:31:07
happy I never thought about that as a
01:31:09
funeral song but there's that line in
01:31:11
there howdy Angels where you find your
01:31:12
wings I think there'd be not a dry eye
01:31:14
in the house
01:31:16
funeral cuz I want my funeral to be a f
01:31:19
like a fun celebration and I think it's
01:31:21
a good mixture of like fun but God you
01:31:25
better cry your eyes out you know
01:31:27
there's no way you could not cry with
01:31:29
that line yeah um oh you're you're a
01:31:32
vegan but you you do eat SEO miniature
01:31:34
SEO I love SEO Cheerios so I everyone
01:31:41
all of my friends know every single pot
01:31:43
like I go to I sh with a bowl of those I
01:31:45
love processed meat like the faker the
01:31:47
better I just love it um but no I was I
01:31:51
was vegetarian for like 8 years uh cuz I
01:31:54
was living with a friend of mine that
01:31:56
was vegetarian and so I was like I'll do
01:31:58
it with you totally lost my taste for
01:32:00
meat um and just love being vegetarian
01:32:03
we didn't really eat meat growing up
01:32:04
anyway so I was quite used to that um
01:32:07
cuz Dad's dad's vegetarian primarily and
01:32:10
then it was just and then I when it was
01:32:14
like a year ago I said to my friend I
01:32:16
was like oh should we try being vegan
01:32:17
and so then I did that and I really
01:32:19
enjoyed that but I just always I've
01:32:22
always struggled with anemia being
01:32:24
really low in
01:32:25
iron and it was actually after the
01:32:27
jungle I'd been in the jungle and I came
01:32:29
out and I was in South Africa and I
01:32:32
ordered this steak and I took one bite
01:32:35
of it and it was like my whole world
01:32:38
just shook beneath me it was the nicest
01:32:41
thing I'd ever had in my mouth ever I
01:32:44
loved it so much so now I like I'm a I'm
01:32:48
a frother for the steak but um I just
01:32:51
don't
01:32:52
like when you see that the Farms here
01:32:55
aren't too bad when you see the farms in
01:32:56
the states even Scott like gets watery
01:32:59
eyes they're so [ __ ] so I um Scott's
01:33:03
dad does home kill so I at meet now at
01:33:05
home because he does home kill and I
01:33:06
feel really I feel fine about that or
01:33:08
like hunted meat um so yeah so now I eat
01:33:11
meat as long as it's from like an
01:33:13
ethical Source I like that I like that
01:33:16
plus Cheerios which aren't from an I
01:33:19
don't know what they are it's mystery
01:33:21
but I love little red sausage it's so
01:33:23
good um the finger up the bum at eight
01:33:25
story that's going to have to wait wait
01:33:26
till next time yep exactly well now I
01:33:29
know how poo comes
01:33:31
out yeah yeah yeah this I mean but again
01:33:35
a lot of kids probably experiment but
01:33:36
and they might remember it as an adult
01:33:38
but they're not going to talk about it
01:33:39
yeah and also they missed out the part
01:33:41
where I tasted it afterwards oh my God
01:33:44
yeah and it tasted like tasted like poo
01:33:47
smells
01:33:50
yeah
01:33:52
all right Asia Scott you're an absolute
01:33:54
Jim by the way 800,000 OD Instagram
01:33:57
followers how many of them are new
01:33:58
zealanders oh 2% come on Zealand we do
01:34:02
have a very small population though but
01:34:04
R ran to if you're at a cafe or you just
01:34:07
before the day before we recorded this
01:34:08
you at Juicy Fest yeah do you get
01:34:10
spotted a lot out and a lot of selfies
01:34:12
or yeah so actually it was really nice
01:34:15
yesterday at Juicy Fest there were quite
01:34:17
a few people that that come up and are
01:34:19
like hyperventilating and shaking and
01:34:22
they's like wait we all watch Bic all
01:34:24
the time and they just the thing I love
01:34:28
about kiwis is like Americans come up to
01:34:30
you and they freak out and and you know
01:34:32
ask a photos or whatever but kiwis they
01:34:34
kind of they they wait until it's a good
01:34:36
time for you and they come over and
01:34:38
they're so polite and then they're
01:34:41
always like you know we just think that
01:34:43
you're this and you're this and you
01:34:44
represent New Zealand so well and that's
01:34:47
the one that means the most to me like
01:34:49
that's the one that really like plucks
01:34:51
at my heart strings and they just say
01:34:54
such beautiful kind compliments and then
01:34:57
they're like would you mind if we got a
01:34:59
photo would that be too much to ask and
01:35:01
then they're like thank you so much for
01:35:02
your time and we're just so polite here
01:35:06
I really really love it and it's nice
01:35:08
cuz yeah again I just love New Zealand
01:35:10
so much that it's and when kiwis come up
01:35:13
and do that that really means a lot to
01:35:15
me oh that's so cool you are a great
01:35:17
Ambassador thank you and just a great
01:35:19
person and um I can't wait what the
01:35:21
future brings I feel like below dick is
01:35:23
just the beginning of it yeah I hope so
01:35:25
I have a
01:35:26
feeling I've got a feeling okay hey well
01:35:29
best of luck thank you so much for
01:35:30
making the time to come on the podcast
01:35:32
today and uh we'll see you soon awesome
01:35:37
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01:35:50
cheers
