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Runners only with dom Harvey the 1
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million download episode where I'm being
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interviewed by one of the most popular
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guests on the podcast so far JJ hello oh
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hi uh I'm just a one name am I like
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Madonna yeah
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what is your last name these days you
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changed it back in a bloody hurry didn't
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you well yeah couldn't wait to get rid
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of that Harvey surname bloody hell well
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um look I just thought if I'm if I'm
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going to be interviewing you today
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um shouldn't I be sitting in your seat
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oh do you want to should I but as that's
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going to muck up things for Jack who's
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doing all the videoing isn't it because
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he's he's adjusted the camera to your
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face and everything and Jack
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okay should I okay okay
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right I'm sitting in your seat today no
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actually don't bother I can't be
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bothered I can't be bothered but I do
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have a clipboard so God's so disruptive
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oh all right so here we go you've done a
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million downloads yes well that's
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amazing I just want to applaud you for
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that it's actually incredible Dom you're
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proud of yourself thank you yeah I um I
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mean you know me better than most people
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and you know how
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um
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you know you have you have a goal in
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mind and I I do find it hard to enjoy
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celebrating the moment moments or the
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process like I'm constantly thinking
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about where I want to be
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um but I am trying my absolute best to
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like just pause and take stock of these
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moments like a million downloads you
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need to we missed some of our best years
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on our radio show because we never
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stopped and thought about how good we
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were doing at the time that's that's so
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true but you say we but I feel like that
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was more a me issue well yeah because
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you you you well you were leading
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everybody in the team your attitude your
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ambition you're the one it's like we we
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did everything to make Dom happy
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[Laughter]
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former radio presenter uh famous
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promoter generally for boxing events and
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former New Zealand rugby league player
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he was on the podcast earlier this year
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and he sort of become uh like a mentor
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in a way like oh that's good it's um
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because I suppose he's like an
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entrepreneur and he's done his own
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business stuff for a number of years and
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he he will just call me like every three
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to four weeks just to check in
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um I'm actually getting quite emotional
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thinking about it because it's the most
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undeen lonigan thing
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um because you know because everyone
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thinks of them this this big hard guy
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but he'll call me for a few weeks just
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to ask how how it's going ask I've got
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coming up ask how the sponsorship's
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going giving me tips for how I could
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approach people and ask them for
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sponsorship and he's he's a couple of
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months ago he called me and I said oh I
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just had I had Rachel Hunter on last
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week and we're going out for dinner
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tonight and and he's like [ __ ] mate
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you're going out for dinner with Rachel
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Hunter tonight he's goes [ __ ] the
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sponsorship [ __ ] everything else you
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know you do what you love and the money
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will come eventually but he said you
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need to like pause and appreciate that
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you're having these pinch yourself
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moments you're having these amazing new
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zealanders come over to your house for
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these incredible conversations and he
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said you're gonna you're gonna look back
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in five years from now when this podcast
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is where you think you want it to be and
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you're going to miss these moments now
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um
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yeah he's right Dean thank you for
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supporting dog no you need people like
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him in your life
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does he have any money for sponsorship
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no no no he's trying to get he's always
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getting people to sponsor his events oh
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okay the hustle is hard the hustle is
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hard um I've just taken off my jacket
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because I thought it was a bit warm in
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here all right every time I'm just
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looking at the camera
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do I look fatter on TV than in real life
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because I swear I had never had this big
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chin okay never mind anyhow you're very
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hard on yourself
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okay Dominic I've got a clipboard
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on this clipboard I have questions and a
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lot of them come from your followers so
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they sent a lot of questions I'm going
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to get to them later okay but first of
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all I just want to say you know you've
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done a million downloads of your podcast
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which I don't think anyone would have
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predicted and also you've done it really
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quickly
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um so let's just for one minute
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okay we've only got five seconds five
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seconds of Silence to commemorate
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it's amazing good on you yeah I know I'm
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just I'm super appreciative for um
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I mean it's all been done independently
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so there hasn't been any support from a
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big Media company or any sort of
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organization so it's just basically done
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by
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um
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I suppose like you know I need to give
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myself a pat on that consistency by
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doing a podcast every [ __ ] Monday
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without fail but also people enjoying it
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and then going to the point of like
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sharing it on social media or word of
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mouth with their friends so if you're
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one of the especially if you're one of
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the yearly listeners before the video's
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set up and everything else and you told
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someone about it thank you so much yeah
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it's been instrumental in the growth
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it's been amazing okay
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um so just into a few questions about
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about your podcasting your journey
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oh you gave me a coffee before I haven't
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had breakfast
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um
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have you had a guest that has surprised
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you
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isn't like you already had a
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preconceived idea about them and either
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they came in here and they were way
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better than you expected or they were a
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real dick whatever just someone who was
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not what you expected
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um first of all to answer part of that
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question I will say there's been no one
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that's been a dick all right and this
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there hasn't been one episode yet that
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I've that I've been at where
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because you know what I'm like with
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quality control yeah but there's there's
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been no one that I've spoken to and
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they've gone away and I've gone I I
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don't even want to publish that it's
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been a waste of time
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um everyone's got a story as long as you
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give them the space to share in terms of
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people that have surprised me there's a
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couple actually like
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um
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Matthew rich and Adam Ferrari okay Adam
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Ferrari was this year so he's he's on
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video
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um Reggie unfortunately this was in the
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early days of the podcast so there's no
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video of it
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um
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but they were they were both just
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amazing and you have these perceptions
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of these people like people generally
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think they're both like tosses or tools
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or arrogant aucklanders or whatever and
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they both they're both really surprised
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me and I think it's just um maturity and
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age yeah and chilling out so maybe they
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were Ducks but they neither of them
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resonate with the person they were you
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know 15 20 25 years ago that's the thing
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people change people grow people evolve
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you learn from things that happen in
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your life yeah and generally well you
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should become a better person rather
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than a worse person in a way the more I
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the more respect to people on the
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podcast the more I think about it um I
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think
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um like growing up and like having
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regrets or embarrassment about how you
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were is a good thing yeah right because
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it does mean you've changed and it does
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mean yeah you've evolved yeah oh by the
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way I got you this great present it's um
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for those watching the video it's a
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tissue box in the shape of radio and I
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just thought I'd give you one because
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you've got moisture around the old
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nose from from just no just getting
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emotion about Dean yeah yeah and I just
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thought you know yeah that was a lovely
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gift wasn't it where is that from like
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online see Etsy
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yeah because there have been some
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emotional moments on the podcast they
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have been a lot of people crying um
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in male do you do now compared to when
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you were on the radio
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oh this this is something that's been a
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really really big surprise I mean you
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worked at the edge for me for most of my
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time there yeah and you there's there's
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a tech system people text and you get it
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instantly and it's
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well I know what it what what do you
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think the percentage was good and mostly
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good yeah like 80 80 20. oh probably 90
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good 90. okay
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um depending on what we were doing at
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the time yeah there were a couple of
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things we've got 90 bad but let's not go
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there yeah
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um all the all the deems like it have
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been have been really nice uh there's
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some people that have um sent me some
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like constructive criticism or that's
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good or ideas which I I do appreciate
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um but there's been nothing bad and
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there's probably like an average of say
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20 to 30 messages per week and it's um
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oh I found it really humbling actually
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that people would take the time to do
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that because I listen to podcasts
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tonight before this I'd never message
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someone to say hey I think you're doing
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a really good job and you know yeah I
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really appreciate the work you're doing
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and I know but now I make a point of
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doing that because it like it takes
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nothing out of your day
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one little thing like that makes
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someone's day oh I mean JJ like you you
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know better than anyone right just how
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much of a struggle this was in the first
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year yeah in terms of like you're trying
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to convince people to sponsor it trying
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to get trying to get money coming in for
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it
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um but during those bleaked or not not
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Bleak times but hard times
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um it's the messages from people that
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sort of keep you going yeah to keep that
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fire in your belly
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um do you
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my boyfriend hawani wanted me to ask you
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this I said to him last night oh what
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should I ask Tom tomorrow and he asked
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have you run more or less since you
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started the podcast
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or kids that's so cute
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Hawaiian is fantastic he's lovely
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um funnily enough less a lot less and
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the reason being I've had a knee injury
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oh really um so I launched this podcast
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called Runners only and then about three
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months after that I got diagnosed with
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osteoarthritis and the inside of my knee
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so
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um and we did some physios and they told
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me I'd never run again and I said
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when you're a runner and you get told
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that you've got osteoarthritis
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this is going to sound so melodramatic
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but at that moment it probably felt
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similar to someone getting like a cancer
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diagnosis honestly it felt like the room
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was spinning around me really well I
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thought I better run again and that's
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what she was saying she the the Physio
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and she was just highly recommended and
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highly qualified she said if it hurts
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when you run then the solution is just
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not to run
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um have you been listening to her no no
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I found another physio
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Dominic my girlfriend Ash she said the
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same thing she's like Dom you can't you
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can't just keep replacing physios until
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you hear what you want to hear but it
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turns out you can and you are a shocker
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no and through sheer like perseverance
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and hard work I've done I've
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strengthened the muscles and tendons
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around it and I can I can run again I'm
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slower than what I was but like for the
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mental health benefits I can get what I
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need out of it okay so I'm ecstatic to
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be running again what about you have you
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run morally since I launched the podcast
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nothing okay nothing let's move on
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um so I had
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I know I know you wanted to get someone
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there was someone that you wanted to get
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on the podcast I probably shouldn't name
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them should I oh okay well Paul Henry
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yesterday I saw him and I said to him oh
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Don would really love to get you on the
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podcast because he is hilarious and he's
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got so many great stories I'm sure
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um but he goes first thing he said was
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but I don't run I hate running so people
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have this perception that your podcast
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is only for runners so uh have you got
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any thoughts to
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change that perception at all I've been
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um yeah I that's a question I get a lot
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and like a lot of people that DM me
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they'll say that they're like I I put
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off listening to it for a long time
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because I'm not a runner or they'll say
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I don't run but I love your podcast LOL
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um and I've been in two minds about one
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of my favorite podcasts is this English
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guy called Stephen Bartlett and he's got
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a podcast called Diary of a CEO and I
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say he's an entrepreneur in the UK I
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think he's one of the judges on like
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Shark Tank or Dragon's Den one of those
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shows so it started off as a Diary of a
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CEO thing but now he just interviews big
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stars every week like last week he had
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Rita oron for a deep chat and she talked
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about tiger waititi and all sorts of
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stuff and so his name hasn't changed and
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it's fine
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um someone two minds about it it's like
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do you do you [ __ ] with it or but anyway
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long story short I am I am going to
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change it
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that's what's on the neon sign right
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here yeah and you know it is less about
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running now yeah I mean you do you do
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ask everyone about their running but
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whether they've even done that lately
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well there you go
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well
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and change your name I don't think
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anyone's going to hate you for it no
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well I mean the reason for it in the
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first place so I launched the podcast
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and um I think March or April 2022 and I
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spoke to some branding people and they
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said to me and their information was
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right at the time they said the podcast
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Market is so congested at the moment you
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kind of need a niche to cut through and
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I think I I discussed it with you at the
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time I'm sure you probably did but and
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you do have a niche and now you've had a
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million downloads I think it's okay to
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change
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your name to Dom Harvey what do you
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think people send your feedback in
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what's domharvey NZ gmail.com okay
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um I've got more questions these are my
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questions I'm asking you haven't got to
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the fan questions yet okay okay
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um I want to talk about your sponsors
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because I know how important they are
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and
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um and how awesome they are red X for
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example
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um oh my God okay I want you to tell me
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about Radix and what they do
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and why they're so amazing okay
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um Radix nutrition they've um the
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founder is a guy called Mike rattling
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who's an English guy that was raised in
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Northland of New Zealand and he's
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oh I don't know I'd say it's like the
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Elon Musk of New Zealand like he's just
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his brain is like a computer and he just
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wants to make people healthier basically
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with what they eat and what they put
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into their body and I've I've I was a
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fan of Radix like before they even
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sponsored the podcast but they they came
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to me they came to me and they the
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podcast I mentioned before diary of the
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CEO they said oh there's a podcast be
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like in the UK and it's sponsored by a
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company called huel and we think we're
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sort of like the huel of New Zealand and
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um we don't know what a podcast
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sponsorship Arrangement would look like
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but we really like what you're doing and
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we'd love to be involved in
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um honestly
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I cannot stress how
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important they have been for the growth
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of the podcast like it's their their
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backing and their support and their
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encouragement and not just with money as
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well like with just advice and
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everything it's been
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remarkable and you know they're a
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startup as well and I'm sure with the
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money that they're spending on the
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podcast they could spend that they could
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buy Billboards or something with it you
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know or get ads on the radio but um the
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fact that they've done this it's um I
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mean I'm addicted to them I really am so
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they came on at the beginning of the
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year for like a 10-week sponsorship to
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see what that looked like then at the
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completion of that they uh sign on for
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another six months that's so good but
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you need more sponsors because you know
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it costs a lot so you've got another one
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now too yeah it had skins so this is
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another really really
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um generous thing about Radix like they
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um they made it clear uh early on that
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they couldn't give me as much money as
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what I wanted to do the things that I
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want to do with the podcast but they
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said they'd be open to co-sponsor with
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other people as long as they're
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non-competing yeah um so they were happy
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to you know share with Skin Institute so
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skin institute's been on for the last
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you know six weeks or so
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um and it's been bloody great yeah it's
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allowed me to do things like the the
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light in here and the cameras and the
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whole setup it's allowed me to do that
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um I've got a guy Jack on the other side
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of the wall That's mixing this video as
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we do it I've got to go Jacques in
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Hamilton that makes little video clips
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for social media
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um got a click on Marcus that helps me
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out with the social media so it's a
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whole team we've got going on there yeah
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and that would not be possible without
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ratings and what about your other
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sponsor JJ Feeney
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she paid your rent
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what do you mean no no no we've still
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got a we've still got a company so uh
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We've stood our finances intertwined and
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I've got to say
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um
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I probably would have given up last year
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sometime if it if it hadn't been for
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that sort of backing because
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um yeah before Radix came along there
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were some great sponsors last year like
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Dion Nash from triumphant disaster he
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came along like a couple of episodes
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into it
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um he had a meeting and he said listen I
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didn't have much money for marketing but
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um I'm happy to give you a couple of
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grand and sponsor a few episodes and he
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said I don't know once once other
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companies see you've got a sponsor maybe
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it'll start like a you know a Tipping
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Point effect and you'll get other people
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on and he was actually dead right yeah
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after that Cookie Time cookies came on
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awesome in Hawaii and a couple of other
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couple of other short-term sponsors and
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that was that was really really cool so
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I can't thank Dion enough of that so
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just this is just a word out there
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because you've got lots of subscribers
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who probably have a bit of pull in the
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finance department at their work
00:17:01
um so why should they maybe jump on to
00:17:03
uh sponsor an episode or two of your
00:17:06
podcasts
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well I think they get value out of it I
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I I well I'm the I'm the CEO around here
00:17:14
I'm running the whole thing I deal with
00:17:16
the clients direct so I make I make I go
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over the top like oh I can sell over
00:17:22
deliver oh yeah yeah yeah yeah
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um no it's great and I like the numbers
00:17:27
are really good and you you'll get a
00:17:29
good like good value for money and a
00:17:31
good return on investment I think
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because it's not like um
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I don't want to [ __ ] on radio because
00:17:35
that's what JJ does and it's an industry
00:17:37
I love but I don't [ __ ] on radio he's
00:17:40
saying that I do radio because that
00:17:42
sounded like I don't want to [ __ ] on
00:17:44
radio because that's what JJ does yeah
00:17:46
yeah and it's what I did and I love it
00:17:48
but radio ads they they plan if
00:17:50
someone's listening to the radio in
00:17:52
their car when the air break comes on
00:17:53
they probably turn it down or they sort
00:17:55
of tune out mentally
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um podcast is generally such an intimate
00:17:58
form of listening like people usually do
00:18:00
it alone uh they usually do it with um
00:18:02
their ear plugs in and they form a
00:18:04
connection with the host so
00:18:06
um I know you've got me sold on Red X
00:18:08
and Skin Institute like go see them see
00:18:11
if they can deal with my varicose veins
00:18:12
oh listen get your miles checked
00:18:14
seriously thank you that's also a good
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thing to do
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um
00:18:18
now you've written three books Dom
00:18:20
Harvey
00:18:21
this is JJ Feeney interviewing Dom
00:18:23
Harvey if you've just tuned in oh hang
00:18:25
on three average books oh and like this
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one good one
00:18:30
actually this is a great book this is
00:18:31
about um our fertility Journey that
00:18:33
we're almost holding up my book
00:18:34
misconception for those just listening
00:18:37
um you can't buy this can you buy this
00:18:39
anymore I think you can buy it online
00:18:41
right very very hard to get you can
00:18:45
probably definitely get ebook but um
00:18:48
it's a great book it's a it's a really
00:18:50
helpful resource and it should still be
00:18:52
more readily available in my opinion I
00:18:54
should probably do an update but anyway
00:18:56
who has time but what I was going to ask
00:18:57
you not about my box but you've written
00:18:59
three books have you got anything
00:19:00
actually 3.5 because I'm a co-author of
00:19:02
yours okay do you have anything any more
00:19:05
in the pipeline not right now okay not
00:19:09
right now I'd like I'd love to write
00:19:10
another book at some point but uh you
00:19:13
know it's stressful and it's exhausting
00:19:15
it's time consuming you and the the
00:19:17
advance you get is [ __ ] all yeah for the
00:19:21
podcast
00:19:22
only right it's um it's terrible but
00:19:25
it's but in saying that it is the most
00:19:28
incredible satisfying feeling when you
00:19:31
get that first
00:19:32
um package and you tear it open and you
00:19:35
see the physical copy of your book yeah
00:19:36
something that you've been working on
00:19:38
for the last 12 to 18 months and it's
00:19:40
got that new book smell and you flick
00:19:42
through it
00:19:43
um it's an incredible feeling but yeah
00:19:45
yeah probably works out to be worth
00:19:46
about four bucks an hour I don't even
00:19:49
think it's that much I honestly don't
00:19:51
it's so much work it is
00:19:53
um okay okay Dom well your podcast is
00:19:56
super popular popular you've had a
00:19:58
million downloads in just over a year
00:20:01
what are your top
00:20:03
three podcasts that you have had
00:20:06
would you know were you most your most
00:20:08
popular podcast that you've put out okay
00:20:10
well the most popular it's easy yours is
00:20:12
number one is it yeah the podcast that
00:20:15
we did yeah number one by a long way no
00:20:17
in terms of downloads in terms of
00:20:20
feedback in terms of YouTube views I
00:20:23
think I know what people people like it
00:20:25
when I give you Shelley maybe yeah I
00:20:29
don't know I don't know yeah I don't
00:20:31
know I don't know why that was but um
00:20:32
okay yeah people people loved that um
00:20:35
right the next one's probably
00:20:38
oh it's it's really hard to say because
00:20:40
they're all favorites Sam but and
00:20:41
another one was probably um Zach
00:20:43
Guilford the former all black women he
00:20:45
came on the podcast around about a year
00:20:47
in the middle of last year uh when he
00:20:49
was still on home detention
00:20:51
um because he was so honest so
00:20:52
transparent so vulnerable about all his
00:20:55
[ __ ] ups and
00:20:57
um it generated a bit of publicity for
00:20:59
the podcast and um it sort of helped you
00:21:02
know take the podcast to another level
00:21:04
but I I just appreciate appreciated it
00:21:06
appreciated his candidness
00:21:09
um I think it did well for him because I
00:21:12
think it made Zach Gilford you saw him
00:21:14
in a new light and you know he instantly
00:21:17
hearing that podcast all your
00:21:19
preconceptions of him disappeared and
00:21:21
were replaced by what you heard on that
00:21:23
podcast yeah I think he came across
00:21:25
really well and really honest and he
00:21:26
really has
00:21:28
um you know he's paid his I think he's
00:21:30
paid for what he's done and he's learned
00:21:35
a good lease and I think I think it was
00:21:37
good for him to also get it off his
00:21:40
chest so that was a good great podcast
00:21:43
yeah yeah but yeah one thing that he
00:21:45
said and another guy on the podcast
00:21:47
um Dr Paul wood who's uh Dr Paul wood
00:21:49
you probably don't know the guy but he
00:21:51
has published two books uh when he was
00:21:53
18
00:21:54
um he was spiraling out of control his
00:21:56
mum was was on her death bed with cancer
00:21:58
he was a drug addict
00:22:00
um his drug dealer made a pass on him uh
00:22:03
when they were high and he murdered him
00:22:05
like killed him with a baseball bat oh
00:22:07
and then he spent his entire 20s in jail
00:22:10
and uh Prima numo and rimutaka some of
00:22:13
New Zealand's hardest jails and then
00:22:15
Midway through his sentence he you know
00:22:16
he spent the first five years just
00:22:18
getting high all the time getting in
00:22:20
fights just living the living the thug
00:22:22
life in jail and then he thought what
00:22:23
the [ __ ] am I doing so he started to
00:22:25
educate himself and he read a lot he got
00:22:27
a couple of degrees while he was in jail
00:22:28
and at the moment I like we're friends
00:22:31
on Instagram he's in Paris with his wife
00:22:33
like he's but something that Paul said
00:22:36
Anzac said it's just really hard to get
00:22:38
redemption in New Zealand yeah you know
00:22:40
this guy's paid his price like he did a
00:22:42
terrible thing he doesn't shy away from
00:22:44
it he spent his entire 20s in jail
00:22:48
um and he's turned his life around but
00:22:49
he said and same with Zach there's
00:22:51
people that just want to go nut can't
00:22:53
forgive them that's the thing I hate
00:22:55
about and it is New Zealand we need to
00:22:59
stop canceling like so we all make
00:23:02
mistakes and most of the people who are
00:23:04
on social media blagging others God if
00:23:08
only we could turn it around on you you
00:23:10
know we've all made big mistakes in our
00:23:12
life we all have regrets but we learn
00:23:15
from them that's what you suppose as a
00:23:17
child when your kid stuffs up you say
00:23:19
that's okay you made a mistake we're
00:23:21
learning from it we don't say [ __ ] you
00:23:23
I'm not going to be a parent you're
00:23:25
canceled you don't like just give people
00:23:28
a chance because
00:23:29
learn people learn after they've been
00:23:32
punished they learn most people will
00:23:35
learn to be a better person there are
00:23:37
some people who are caught up in that
00:23:38
cycle and you know and those are the
00:23:40
real criminals in the world but if
00:23:42
someone's making a real Festival
00:23:44
you've got to think think people when
00:23:47
people do bad things like Zach Gilford
00:23:50
he was in a bad place you know and
00:23:53
place we can do crazy things you've got
00:23:56
to give people a chance to learn and
00:24:00
prove that they're trying and getting
00:24:02
better and he's done that you'll make Dr
00:24:05
Dr Paul wood Paul wood I haven't heard
00:24:08
that one off your podcast and I must
00:24:09
that sounds amazing yeah I'm like
00:24:11
sitting here with you now like a million
00:24:13
episodes a million downloads down and
00:24:15
with this nice video set up
00:24:17
um I do kick myself a bit that
00:24:20
um the first year was just Audio Only so
00:24:22
they live online but I just don't have I
00:24:25
don't have the video and there's some
00:24:26
amazing episodes but don't you have more
00:24:28
people listening to the podcast than
00:24:30
watching the podcast yes yeah completely
00:24:32
but I feel like I feel like that all
00:24:33
change over time it's nice to have a
00:24:36
video if you want to refer to it and if
00:24:37
you want to go to it so you have your
00:24:39
podcast to listen to or you can watch it
00:24:40
on YouTube yeah if you want okay yeah
00:24:43
um yes so yeah there are a couple of my
00:24:45
favorites another another couple of
00:24:46
favorites are probably real early ones
00:24:48
like um Jeremy Wells and Mitch James who
00:24:51
agreed to come on the podcast before it
00:24:53
had even launched yeah he's awesome yeah
00:24:55
I mean they're both they're both busy
00:24:56
guys they both get a lot of requests to
00:24:58
do podcasts so the fact that they
00:25:00
um allowed me to podcast them
00:25:03
um when I had no downloads or reputation
00:25:05
under my belt like it was really cool
00:25:08
yep
00:25:10
that is cool I really you know when you
00:25:13
interview these people I they just
00:25:17
um go up in my books too you know I have
00:25:19
a lot of respect for them for coming on
00:25:21
and giving you that chance
00:25:23
um what about what are the podcasts
00:25:25
apart from the CEO one that you love to
00:25:28
listen to oh there's a bunch
00:25:30
um between two beers which is the New
00:25:32
Zealand one yeah actually I mean you
00:25:35
could say they're a competitor like we
00:25:36
do we double up on a lot of the same
00:25:38
content yeah and it's a long form
00:25:40
interview but
00:25:41
um they do a fantastic I'm in Aura of
00:25:43
what those guys do oh yeah that's cool
00:25:45
yeah why is that why are they so good
00:25:48
well they they ask good questions and
00:25:50
then they just butt out really and let
00:25:52
the person let the person talk
00:25:54
um because I'm from a radio a lifelong
00:25:57
radio background I I I'll listen back to
00:25:59
a podcast I know I've got a tendency to
00:26:01
like interrupt people or I don't you
00:26:04
know I I [ __ ] I listen back and I
00:26:06
[ __ ] hate myself sometimes no but
00:26:07
that's because in radio you've got
00:26:10
limited time you've got three minutes
00:26:11
for The Voice break and you've got to
00:26:13
keep interrupting the person to move the
00:26:15
interview along to where you need it to
00:26:16
go so we trained in that way so I get it
00:26:19
but you've got you've got better at
00:26:21
stopping and listening I'm trying I'm
00:26:23
trying and another thing that I've got
00:26:25
from those guys for 20 beers um two guys
00:26:27
called Stephen Sheamus
00:26:29
you know when we were in radio how
00:26:32
um well I've had time to reflect on this
00:26:34
and I thought is this a me problem or
00:26:36
was this how we were conditioned by
00:26:38
management and I like I don't want to
00:26:40
shake responsibility for my own actions
00:26:42
but I do think it was something that we
00:26:44
were fed from management you know how
00:26:45
the people on other radio stations were
00:26:48
the enemy
00:26:49
oh yeah you know it was like I never
00:26:53
went for that but I know that's the way
00:26:55
that they try to make it yeah yeah we
00:26:57
even had a friend
00:26:58
um when we first moved to Auckland with
00:26:59
the edge our friend Stu did the
00:27:01
nighttime show on ZM yeah and he'd come
00:27:03
around have dinner with us every Sunday
00:27:04
night and I think it was his manager at
00:27:07
ZM said oh it's not a good look you
00:27:08
hanging out with JJ and Don they do the
00:27:11
British we started on our radio show
00:27:13
yeah when he was 15. so there was this
00:27:16
this weird sort of thing I don't is it
00:27:18
like that now or have they chilled the
00:27:19
[ __ ] out oh no it's not like that now
00:27:21
because too many people have switched
00:27:22
teams and gone back and forth and it's
00:27:24
not like that now and I don't think it
00:27:25
should be no absolutely it shouldn't but
00:27:27
I mean realistically there's probably
00:27:29
say about 200 people in New Zealand that
00:27:31
do radio like what are the chances you
00:27:32
do the same [ __ ] job the only enemies
00:27:34
and radio are the people who are
00:27:36
absolute [ __ ] quotes who don't who don't
00:27:38
give anyone else the time of day and I
00:27:40
think they know who they are [ __ ]
00:27:43
what's in life
00:27:45
um no I was going somewhere with this um
00:27:46
like so Steve and Seamus between two
00:27:48
beers
00:27:50
um like we we should be competitors like
00:27:52
I I should see their podcast on a Monday
00:27:54
morning see they've got [ __ ] Mark
00:27:57
Alice and be like those [ __ ]
00:27:59
how did they get Macker and I don't know
00:28:01
but honestly I I root for them and uh
00:28:05
yeah yeah you don't want the same guests
00:28:07
as them
00:28:08
I know some of them I do New Zealand is
00:28:10
a limited pool but they've been great
00:28:12
and we we share ideas and we share
00:28:14
resources and they they've got a social
00:28:16
media guy called Marcus and they
00:28:18
introduced me to Marcus and well the
00:28:19
world is all about co-laying nowadays
00:28:21
yeah you know you get together with the
00:28:23
people who do well like you and you
00:28:25
build a strong team so what other
00:28:27
podcast do you like
00:28:29
um Joe Rogan if it's a guest that I'm
00:28:30
interested in
00:28:32
um forever though
00:28:34
that's what I found that's what I found
00:28:36
really interesting about it before I
00:28:37
launched this because I'd I um so
00:28:39
finished on radio I think it's been
00:28:40
about six months just thinking about a
00:28:42
podcast and studying podcasts and
00:28:45
working out what I liked and what I
00:28:46
didn't like about other ones and
00:28:48
I'd go I'd start to go for a run and I'd
00:28:50
bring up say Joe Rogan and post Malone
00:28:52
and it'll be three and a half hours
00:28:55
um but then you go for a run for an hour
00:28:56
and a half two hours and pause it and go
00:28:59
back and listen to it and I found that
00:29:00
when I first launched this podcast
00:29:01
people would say to me oh yeah I don't
00:29:03
know if I want to listen to I like
00:29:04
Jeremy Wells but I don't know if I want
00:29:06
to listen to 80 minutes of them
00:29:08
um but then people get their head around
00:29:09
podcasts and the fact it's not like a TV
00:29:11
show you don't have to sit down and
00:29:12
watch it or listen to it from start to
00:29:14
finish no you can watch listen to 20
00:29:16
minutes in your car if you're bored go
00:29:18
to something else
00:29:19
um another podcast I like
00:29:21
um Dax Shepard you know the actor yes he
00:29:24
was in um
00:29:25
he's on chirps Without a Paddle like
00:29:29
some sticky comedies yeah no what was
00:29:31
that um
00:29:38
oh is he from Punk and he's married to
00:29:40
uh Kristen Bell yes yeah okay so he does
00:29:43
the podcast called amateur expert and
00:29:45
that's amazing that's one of my
00:29:46
favorites what's that about oh it's just
00:29:48
him interviewing Hammond
00:29:50
um I think it's the uh like nanny or
00:29:52
housekeeper Monica and they
00:29:54
um they just interview Super Famous well
00:29:56
they've had a Prince Harry on oh yeah
00:29:58
and Obama
00:29:59
um but yeah I I listened to that before
00:30:02
I launched mine and I'm like that's the
00:30:04
sort of conversations I want to have
00:30:05
with people just real conversations it's
00:30:07
yeah very uninterviewy yeah yeah so I
00:30:11
love it I love that one
00:30:13
um yeah there's a couple of others as
00:30:14
well
00:30:18
okay now I'm getting onto
00:30:21
that's all for now I'm turning the page
00:30:23
so I've got my clipboard here um I have
00:30:25
questions that your fans have sent in
00:30:29
um
00:30:31
so I'm just going to go to them now
00:30:34
they're disorganized you wouldn't you
00:30:37
wouldn't have this sort of pause on
00:30:38
radio no I must say
00:30:41
Dom but my
00:30:46
but maybe lazy boy's feet up
00:30:48
I feel like
00:30:51
actually you yeah the more comfortable
00:30:54
the guest is I think yeah the more I
00:30:56
think yep let's do that so I have I have
00:31:00
contemplated ideas like like changing
00:31:02
the set and getting like a table so
00:31:03
you're sitting across people but I don't
00:31:05
know I feel like if someone's relaxed
00:31:07
and they're in a comfortable chair I
00:31:09
mean this chair is comfortable but
00:31:11
lazy boy yeah I don't know if you'd put
00:31:14
them in this room though anyway I need
00:31:15
to get some more sponsorship money first
00:31:16
these are Target chairs yes are they oh
00:31:20
um yes please please sponsor Dom's
00:31:22
podcast oh you make it sound real need
00:31:24
it oh no I'm just saying it because we
00:31:26
want to do some flash things get new
00:31:28
chairs okay
00:31:29
um fan questions
00:31:33
[Music]
00:31:34
yeah have you not pre-read well I have
00:31:37
but I'm just changing my mind now yep
00:31:39
your dream guest list
00:31:43
mmm
00:31:46
oh New Zealand or International I mean
00:31:49
International Elon Musk I'd love [ __ ]
00:31:51
Elon Musk that would be incredible have
00:31:53
you thought about going overseas and
00:31:55
getting some big names yeah
00:31:57
um so I went to Boston earlier this year
00:31:59
with my mum to run the Boston Marathon
00:32:00
oh this is a funny story
00:32:02
um I I did find a few people in Boston
00:32:05
to speak to not not big names but
00:32:06
fabulous guests so one of them was um
00:32:08
Billy Evans who was the Boston Police
00:32:10
Commissioner at the time of the Boston
00:32:11
bombings amazing um he helped capture
00:32:14
those um those young terrorists and
00:32:16
there's a Netflix documentary series
00:32:18
about it and he's all through that
00:32:19
um I just found his email address online
00:32:21
I emailed him and he he said yes and
00:32:24
it's amazing some some random from New
00:32:26
Zealand he's never heard of
00:32:28
um and there was Sarah Gerhart who's an
00:32:29
author that she's got a great running
00:32:30
book she met with me in Boston as well
00:32:32
and um a guy called Ryan Hall who's uh
00:32:35
I'm actually releasing this podcast in
00:32:37
the next week or two America's fastest
00:32:40
runner ever in the marathon and half
00:32:41
marathon he gave me an hour of his time
00:32:43
there was so Boston's like a train ride
00:32:46
from the New York it's a few hours away
00:32:47
yeah so I thought who could I speak to
00:32:49
in New York I mean
00:32:51
there's no use me trying to get Taylor
00:32:54
Swift or Beyonce or Jay-Z because it's
00:32:56
just not going to happen it feels like
00:32:57
it's a waste of breath of course yeah
00:32:59
um so you think who could I possibly get
00:33:02
so I emailed Billy McFarland does the
00:33:06
name hang on wait fire Festival
00:33:09
okay the fire Festival documentary the
00:33:12
festival that never happened so I
00:33:13
messaged him
00:33:15
um he he I think he was in jail for like
00:33:17
18 months for fraud from the fire
00:33:19
festival and he's out now and I messaged
00:33:21
him
00:33:22
um and he was prepared to do the podcast
00:33:24
and I could have gone to New York to do
00:33:25
it but he won a two and a half Grand US
00:33:27
oh okay which he's still scamming people
00:33:31
then
00:33:32
well it did
00:33:34
um I mean no one pays for interviews
00:33:36
yeah
00:33:37
I mean like fair enough you know part of
00:33:39
me thought oh that's fair enough in a
00:33:40
way it's his time you've got to put
00:33:42
value on your time yeah what what's the
00:33:44
return on investment with him but I have
00:33:46
I don't know I don't know if that would
00:33:48
come from I haven't had to pay anyone
00:33:49
yet but I don't know if I would
00:33:50
compromise it or not I don't know part
00:33:52
of me thinks if you're paying him money
00:33:53
he'll give you a better performance
00:33:55
because he's being paid for it but part
00:33:58
of me thinks I was just doing he's not
00:33:59
it doesn't even want to speak he's doing
00:34:01
it for the money so I don't know you
00:34:03
definitely need to get
00:34:05
someone to sponsor the episode if you're
00:34:07
paying someone you know like yes but
00:34:09
Rhythm and Vines a festival that
00:34:11
actually is gonna happen
00:34:13
um so but so who's on your dream guest
00:34:15
list apart from Elon Musk
00:34:17
um from New Zealand
00:34:19
um top of the dream list and I don't
00:34:21
know if this is going to happen would be
00:34:22
um Scott razor Robertson oh yeah awesome
00:34:25
let me um
00:34:27
let me let me find our text exchange I
00:34:29
have two I have oh okay all right oh I
00:34:32
have tried oh this will be good how do I
00:34:35
how do I access my text messages
00:34:43
out this is terrible yeah
00:34:46
where is it I think you'll leave it in
00:34:48
here right you know
00:34:50
in time how long it takes Don to find a
00:34:52
text message on his phone no no the
00:34:54
problem is um Scott Robertson so okay
00:34:58
scrolling all the way oh my God this is
00:35:00
embarrassing so oh okay there's a lot of
00:35:02
views messaging him and no room blue is
00:35:04
me
00:35:06
like oh honestly I've been persistent
00:35:09
okay well I mean you know sometimes it's
00:35:12
a way to get things so the 28th of July
00:35:15
2022.
00:35:17
hi Scott my name is Tom Harvey blah blah
00:35:19
blah blah blah blah blah blah thanks
00:35:21
very much for reading this punishing
00:35:23
long message
00:35:24
so that was um July August
00:35:27
um I repeated the same message again
00:35:29
because he hadn't responded okay so he's
00:35:31
just like oi beep beep listen yeah in
00:35:34
case you missed that sort of thing and
00:35:35
then he responded straight away Friday
00:35:36
5th of August hey Dom good to hear from
00:35:39
you sounds cool but
00:35:41
um I have a new rule only one podcast a
00:35:43
year for me personally all the media
00:35:46
take it as an interview and they get
00:35:47
articles out of it maybe next year
00:35:49
cheers razor oh okay so I replied I
00:35:53
waited a day
00:35:55
thanks for the reply raiser respect that
00:35:57
rule brother I'll message you on January
00:35:58
1. yeah
00:36:01
um no doubt you get a [ __ ] ton of
00:36:02
requests to do these things if it makes
00:36:03
any difference my focus would be a more
00:36:05
in-depth conversation about you and what
00:36:07
makes you tick we could even avoid any
00:36:09
clickbait about All Blacks coaching
00:36:10
stuff entirely but I'll leave it I'll
00:36:12
leave you alone for now all the best and
00:36:13
I hope to meet you sometime Dom
00:36:15
and that was so that was August no reply
00:36:18
now remember he said one podcast a year
00:36:20
so I wasn't too desperate I messaged him
00:36:23
on Thursday the 12th of January
00:36:27
is a happy New Year mate I hope 23 is
00:36:29
off to a great start just following up
00:36:30
on our text exchange from last August
00:36:32
I've been absolute honored to
00:36:34
um get you on the podcast this year I'm
00:36:36
getting in early to make sure I beat
00:36:38
James Marshall to it haha James Marshall
00:36:41
was one of Ray's assistant coaches at
00:36:43
the Crusaders he also does a great
00:36:45
podcast called what a lead okay with
00:36:47
rugby players so anyway that was uh
00:36:50
January no reply 23rd of February I'll
00:36:52
send another one 21st of March sent him
00:36:55
another one jeez
00:37:00
oh my God he hasn't blocked you by now
00:37:03
um and he replied to that one on May 7.
00:37:06
um hey Dom I have banned myself from
00:37:08
podcasts oh okay thanks for asking but
00:37:11
anything I say is a headline at the
00:37:12
moment once I start the job let's see if
00:37:15
we can do this and then he signed off
00:37:17
with the Razer Emoji oh yeah that's
00:37:20
funny he's got a sense of humor he has a
00:37:22
very good City yeah so I get it I
00:37:25
understand what he's saying yeah it
00:37:27
would suck in his position sure
00:37:30
and even though you say you know you
00:37:32
won't do click baby stuff journalists
00:37:35
will try and find something yeah so I I
00:37:37
understand that but it would be cool if
00:37:41
he'd just
00:37:42
you know
00:37:44
he'd give you come on razor come on
00:37:47
razor it's not responding to my taxi
00:37:49
certainly not watching this
00:37:52
um now it'd be great though he's just a
00:37:54
fascinating guy and I I um I don't know
00:37:56
if he'd know the answer to this but I
00:37:58
can't help but think
00:37:59
um that tid lasso or Jason Sudeikis
00:38:02
um like got the inspiration for Ted's
00:38:05
dancing moves off razor I can't even
00:38:07
think they'd all wondered who really
00:38:09
knows the answer to that unless you ask
00:38:11
Jason Sudeikis yeah or razor maybe
00:38:13
raisin knows or his was given heads up
00:38:15
or has been told no I don't know he
00:38:17
wouldn't know
00:38:18
ring up and go oh hey mate we're
00:38:21
inspired by you doing your break dancing
00:38:22
at the end of every game we're gonna
00:38:24
start this TV No One's Gonna Do That No
00:38:26
One's Gonna Give the credit to someone
00:38:27
else yeah if they see someone from New
00:38:30
Zealand people in America or England
00:38:33
and doing something
00:38:36
just a little love New Zealand copy them
00:38:38
no one will know well I suppose yeah
00:38:40
there's no need to tell anyone but yeah
00:38:42
yeah
00:38:43
um
00:38:44
oh let me see has anyone said oh I was
00:38:47
going to say has anyone said no to you
00:38:48
this is these are fan questions
00:38:52
um this uh there's been a few actually
00:38:55
um and I I understand that
00:38:57
um like the difference between
00:39:00
you and I did radio for the same length
00:39:03
of time about 30 years and every
00:39:04
interview you're doing radios kind of
00:39:06
transactional love it like you had Paul
00:39:07
Henry on your show yesterday he's
00:39:09
promoting a new show generally any guest
00:39:12
you have and has got something about
00:39:13
promoting an agenda yeah yeah so this
00:39:16
this kind of know agenda it's just a
00:39:18
conversation and
00:39:19
um it does get quite personal so I can
00:39:21
understand that a lot of people would be
00:39:23
reluctant to go on I did um I messaged
00:39:25
someone the other day who I thought I
00:39:27
thought it should be a great guest and
00:39:28
she replied to me and it
00:39:30
um
00:39:31
let me find this but karonga
00:39:34
okay yeah I thought she's doing a little
00:39:36
tour at the moment or she has been I
00:39:38
thought I thought it should be amazing
00:39:39
like she's because we we had a a bit
00:39:41
weird to the edge once for us do you
00:39:43
remember were you there that day she
00:39:44
came in for an interview and she like
00:39:47
um
00:39:47
it was um it was a it was a crap
00:39:50
interview like she she she looked down
00:39:52
she didn't make any eye contact she was
00:39:54
sort of optimized it was was that her
00:39:56
first interview with us no no no no
00:40:00
interview what's wrong with her yes when
00:40:02
the edge was in Hamilton she came out
00:40:03
with um drive and Sway and she was young
00:40:07
and she was like like vibrant and
00:40:09
enthusiastic thing yeah we had around
00:40:10
like five or six years later and she she
00:40:12
was just staring at the ground the whole
00:40:14
time and was really sort of flat and I
00:40:16
remember at the time like from a selfish
00:40:18
perspective thinking oh that was a
00:40:19
[ __ ] interview
00:40:20
um and I look back now and it's like
00:40:22
I just want to know what she had going
00:40:24
on like she was obviously stressed or
00:40:26
fatigued or depressed sick of being
00:40:28
dragged around the interview Circuit by
00:40:30
a record company manager musicians get
00:40:33
worked hard
00:40:36
they do
00:40:37
um
00:40:38
and maybe maybe it wasn't necessarily
00:40:40
the music she wanted to be doing or
00:40:41
maybe she's getting people telling her
00:40:43
anyway she replied to me um saying hey
00:40:46
Dom thanks you know you know I heard
00:40:48
your guy on Eastern interview and I
00:40:50
thought it was excellent I really
00:40:51
enjoyed it you know I'm not a runner
00:40:53
though haha yeah yeah
00:40:56
um but I should be can I just say maybe
00:40:59
one day to the podcast I'm so over
00:41:01
talking about myself because we just did
00:41:03
a press tour campaign and I just
00:41:05
couldn't do any more like really bored
00:41:08
of myself promoting thanks for asking
00:41:11
though maybe when I have something new
00:41:12
out is that okay oh she's so sweet I get
00:41:15
that too
00:41:17
um it was nice actually listened to one
00:41:18
of your podcasts yeah they didn't feel
00:41:20
compelled to go back to listen to
00:41:21
anymore
00:41:22
no no no
00:41:24
big time commitment yeah for sure
00:41:27
oh I hope she's okay
00:41:30
um all right what else someone wants to
00:41:33
know how much research you do and for
00:41:36
each guest and do you have any help with
00:41:39
that no no
00:41:41
um I think even if um even when I get to
00:41:44
the I have this vision in mind of where
00:41:46
I want the podcast to get to but even
00:41:48
when it gets to that stage I think I'd
00:41:49
still do the research myself I'll just
00:41:52
go for a run and I'll
00:41:53
um search the podcast apps to see if
00:41:55
that person's done any previous podcasts
00:41:57
and listen to that and do some research
00:41:59
online so I researched really hard but I
00:42:02
I find it sort of um like a balance I
00:42:06
don't want to over research and that's
00:42:07
not a laziness thing yeah it's just
00:42:09
because I want to go in with with notes
00:42:11
to make sure I don't miss anything but I
00:42:13
also want to have like an era of
00:42:14
curiosity as well yeah and you want
00:42:18
yeah and tell you something that you
00:42:19
didn't know yeah that's I mean yeah if
00:42:22
you ask a question and you already know
00:42:24
the answer to it or it's kind of like
00:42:26
you're going in with an agenda
00:42:28
you know what I mean and I I prefer to
00:42:30
go in with sort of an open mind and
00:42:31
curiosity
00:42:32
fan question how much editing do you do
00:42:35
on an episode
00:42:38
um
00:42:39
oh very little actually yeah yeah
00:42:41
actually the podcast that you and I did
00:42:43
I I
00:42:44
um I didn't edit that at all and I
00:42:46
haven't even gone back to listen to it I
00:42:48
started to listen to it and edit it but
00:42:50
it was just too hard yeah you should
00:42:51
have edited a lot
00:42:52
[Laughter]
00:42:54
um yeah no but yeah very little to be
00:42:57
honest I um I listened back to edit and
00:43:00
I just get annoyed with my own voice I I
00:43:03
know that I start out and I know that I
00:43:04
stamma
00:43:05
oh so some of the best broadcasters do
00:43:08
yeah well Holmes used to stutter and
00:43:10
stammer all the time no no no no no no
00:43:12
no you know and and Duncan Garner
00:43:17
yeah some of the best broadcasters
00:43:19
because you'll think you're so smart
00:43:20
you're thinking you're thinking you're
00:43:21
thinking you talk you talk
00:43:24
even me I'm stuttering and stammering
00:43:27
right now you know what it's like though
00:43:28
people people think that if you're on
00:43:29
radio or you're doing a podcast you're
00:43:31
like the sound of your own voice I don't
00:43:32
think anyone really likes the sound of
00:43:33
their own voice definitely not people
00:43:35
hate the sound of their own voice
00:43:37
um or there are some people who do the
00:43:39
people that talk like this they love the
00:43:41
sound of their own voice because no one
00:43:42
is actually born to talk like that
00:43:44
um
00:43:45
all right some of these questions are
00:43:46
repeated so let me think what is
00:43:51
oh here we go here we go Winnie
00:43:55
interviewing Mike puto oh JJ Mike and
00:43:59
Tom days whenever yeah whenever he
00:44:01
whenever he's ready and wants to have
00:44:03
you asked him I missed him a couple of
00:44:04
weeks ago because I had someone that
00:44:05
pulled up that pulled out at the last
00:44:06
minute so I had um Jack around here
00:44:08
ready to go so I was like Mike come over
00:44:10
but he was just on his way to go to TV3
00:44:12
to do the weather or something oh okay
00:44:14
um yeah yeah it's funny after we did our
00:44:16
interview the other week
00:44:18
um we talked about Mike and that because
00:44:20
it's um for anyone that doesn't know the
00:44:22
three of us work together on the edge
00:44:23
for a number of years it was the JJ Mike
00:44:25
and Dom show and you you kind of don't
00:44:29
realize it at the time but you look back
00:44:30
and you go holy [ __ ] that was successful
00:44:32
and that was the that was the most
00:44:34
successful period for the radio station
00:44:36
The Edge I think but when you're going
00:44:37
through it you don't you get told by
00:44:39
management that you [ __ ] all the time
00:44:40
yeah do better do better do better you
00:44:43
don't you don't realize what an impact
00:44:44
you're having on people bully their
00:44:46
whole lives by management but we talked
00:44:48
about Mike and that interview another
00:44:51
co-host we didn't mention was Clint
00:44:52
Randall who's still at the edge now yeah
00:44:53
a couple has been messaged to me why
00:44:55
didn't you talk about Clem and I thought
00:44:57
oh there's no beef Theory or anything
00:44:59
like me and Clint are still really good
00:45:00
yeah it's amazing yeah he's a good dude
00:45:02
but um like from the perspective of your
00:45:05
career like you and Mike and I worked
00:45:08
together for maybe a dozen years you
00:45:09
worked with um Randall he was done for
00:45:11
like two years mate yeah not very long
00:45:13
so I didn't feel worth occupying too
00:45:15
much of the podcast space with you on
00:45:17
that no but I mean I love Randall Clint
00:45:21
as he's gone back to his first name now
00:45:22
he's allowed to yeah he was so he was so
00:45:24
dark about me called Randy like it was
00:45:26
it was really weird though this is
00:45:27
another weird radio thing so we had a
00:45:29
guy called Clint Roberts that was
00:45:31
working the afternoon show at the edge
00:45:32
at the time and
00:45:34
radio management I think listeners are
00:45:37
so stupid that their head would explode
00:45:40
if there were two clints on the same
00:45:42
radio station at different times yeah
00:45:44
Randall had to be called by his last
00:45:46
name but Clint Randall is one of the
00:45:49
nicest guys
00:45:50
he is very talented and he is so good
00:45:53
looking like it's he's ridiculously good
00:45:55
looking and it's very hard to work
00:45:58
opposite Hermann concentrate every day
00:46:11
so we had this um relationship with Mike
00:46:13
and yeah I suppose every radio breakfast
00:46:15
show Dynamic is Works differently and we
00:46:18
were good in Silence the three of us so
00:46:20
when the songs were playing I'd be on my
00:46:22
phone you'd be doing whatever you're
00:46:24
doing Mike would always be doing secret
00:46:25
stuff on grinder
00:46:27
no it'd be looking at real estate quite
00:46:30
a lot and I'd be like oh what are you
00:46:31
what are you doing you're looking at
00:46:32
buying a new house and how just minimize
00:46:34
the screen and say never you mind like
00:46:36
everything was super secretive with Mike
00:46:38
and then um so then then Mike moved on
00:46:41
and um Randall took over and do you
00:46:44
remember like he just talks non-stop so
00:46:47
when the songs are on he just chats
00:46:49
commentates live commentates everything
00:46:51
do you remember that wonder that you
00:46:53
told him off
00:46:54
hello
00:46:55
you said something like
00:46:58
um
00:46:59
I can't imagine doing it because I can't
00:47:02
bear it was like you broke his heart oh
00:47:04
you're like hey Randall I don't mean to
00:47:06
be rude but can you please just shut up
00:47:09
for a few minutes
00:47:10
he's like child you know you've got a
00:47:13
child yes it's incredible when you're in
00:47:15
that five and six year old and they're
00:47:16
always asking questions and you just
00:47:18
like okay hon just give me a minute but
00:47:20
why am I but why Randall was a bit like
00:47:23
that Randall I love you so much but you
00:47:25
do talk a lot okay anyway next one
00:47:27
someone wants to know do you get paid
00:47:29
when someone listens to the podcast
00:47:32
if not I feel like you should be getting
00:47:34
something out of what you're doing is
00:47:35
you put a lot into it it seems only for
00:47:36
you to get some money for what you do do
00:47:38
you get paid when someone listens to the
00:47:39
podcast well that's um that's a very
00:47:42
interesting question so
00:47:44
um you have like what's called a podcast
00:47:46
host so I'm with um a company called a
00:47:49
cast and they have sales reps that sell
00:47:52
some ads so sometimes you might hear an
00:47:55
ad in the beginning of the podcast the
00:47:56
middle of the podcast or the end of the
00:47:57
podcast and you get paid for that now if
00:48:01
you're Joe Rogan and you have 11 million
00:48:03
listeners a week you can make he
00:48:05
probably makes a couple hundred thousand
00:48:06
dollars per episode wow crazy money
00:48:09
um if you're a popular podcast in New
00:48:11
Zealand
00:48:12
um will you do my invoices what do I
00:48:14
make 300 bucks a week from acast oh no
00:48:17
not that much oh you might make about
00:48:19
250 bucks a week yeah yeah you can't
00:48:22
live on that no you can't I mean it
00:48:24
sounds like oh okay but you can't live
00:48:26
on that no um it's definitely yeah I
00:48:29
mean I've got mouths to feed now yeah
00:48:30
yeah but Jack Marcus and sharks yeah
00:48:34
um so I think the way to do it in a
00:48:36
small country like New Zealand is to get
00:48:38
good sponsors on board that believe in
00:48:39
the content you're doing like Radix have
00:48:42
been yeah
00:48:44
um so there's your answer so everyone
00:48:45
who listens to the podcast you don't pay
00:48:48
anything it's free content for you well
00:48:51
JJ you've even said to me over the past
00:48:52
year like why don't you get a paywall or
00:48:54
want to subscribe or subscribe but I
00:48:57
don't know I feel like the numbers are
00:48:58
just like new zealanders are tight so if
00:49:00
you say to someone yeah five bucks a
00:49:02
week it's less than a cup of coffee the
00:49:04
numbers are just drop off considerably
00:49:06
and I I really believe
00:49:09
um there's some value in the
00:49:10
conversations I'm having with some
00:49:12
really inspiring new zealanders and
00:49:13
people can listen to them and go oh [ __ ]
00:49:15
well oh Hannah Wilkinson's got [ __ ]
00:49:17
going on she's the biggest one she's
00:49:20
amazing it was such a good podcast yeah
00:49:23
and this week Maya Wilson from the
00:49:24
silver Fields the silver thing gold
00:49:26
shade I've seen her um Snippets that you
00:49:28
put on you yeah she looks like a real
00:49:30
crack up too really
00:49:33
you see these people and you see that
00:49:35
they've got [ __ ] going on and it just
00:49:37
makes you feel normal so I wouldn't want
00:49:39
to restrict that by putting like a
00:49:41
barrier in place for people that can't
00:49:42
afford it or don't want to pay for it
00:49:44
yeah Dom you've had a million downloads
00:49:48
of your podcast I've just thrown away my
00:49:50
clipboard because I'm out of a
00:49:52
pre-organized questions
00:49:55
um
00:49:55
two from here like what do you what do
00:49:58
you see happening what's you know
00:50:00
Envision the next five years for example
00:50:03
will you still be doing the podcast will
00:50:06
you be maybe perhaps doing something
00:50:08
else will you get back into radio will
00:50:10
you write more books like what where's
00:50:12
Dom Harvey going
00:50:13
well one thing I've learned since during
00:50:16
the podcast is um you can always predict
00:50:19
where it's gonna where it's gonna end up
00:50:20
there's a quote I really like it was
00:50:22
from um I think it was from Steve Jobs
00:50:23
the Apple guy and he said something like
00:50:26
people people overestimate what they can
00:50:29
do in one year and underestimate how
00:50:31
much they can do in five years so I'm
00:50:32
only one year into the junior now it's
00:50:34
probably going
00:50:36
well no it is going it is going better
00:50:37
than what I anticipated in terms of the
00:50:40
sponsorship in terms of the downloads in
00:50:41
terms of the feedback in terms of the
00:50:43
quality of guests in terms of everything
00:50:45
so I I just want to keep going and I'm
00:50:49
not quite sure exactly where it's going
00:50:50
to lead
00:50:51
um but I feel like it's leading like I
00:50:52
had um for example I had um Miyamoto on
00:50:55
a couple of months ago who's a world
00:50:57
champion boxer yeah and a hell of a
00:50:59
backstory like a harrowing backstory
00:51:01
just you're married at a young age
00:51:03
because she thought that's what she had
00:51:05
to do because she was religious and then
00:51:06
it was the relationship was you're
00:51:09
incredibly violent and abusive and as a
00:51:13
result of that podcast we're now doing
00:51:15
some public speaking together so she's
00:51:18
she's not
00:51:19
um confident enough just yet she will be
00:51:21
there in time at doing like keynote
00:51:23
speaks or speaking about yourself so
00:51:25
they want it to be a situation like this
00:51:26
where we're on stage well you're
00:51:28
prompting her yeah so I guide the
00:51:29
conversation yeah and I if you said a
00:51:31
year ago that that could be a thing I
00:51:33
didn't you know I wouldn't have seen a
00:51:35
path
00:51:36
so the podcast is opening up some other
00:51:38
different doors so I really don't know
00:51:40
but I'm really enjoying what I'm doing
00:51:42
um I feel like it's only going to grow
00:51:44
and get better and
00:51:46
um yeah I don't know I I'd love to do a
00:51:49
book that was an easy book so I was
00:51:52
thinking like lessons from Legends where
00:51:54
I just get like transcripts of some of
00:51:55
the podcast and well I think that would
00:51:58
be good yes I don't actually have to be
00:52:00
interested in Reading because not
00:52:01
everyone's going to hear the podcast
00:52:03
yeah you know so um having be able to
00:52:06
flick through and pick the legend you
00:52:08
want to read about and stuff I think
00:52:09
that's a good idea Don because I've done
00:52:10
I've done three books which are just
00:52:12
shitty stories from my own experiences
00:52:14
yeah it'd be nice to have like a like a
00:52:16
beautiful like coffee table book
00:52:19
um honoring these people that have given
00:52:20
their time and been oh you'd have to
00:52:22
bother them again for better photos
00:52:28
I don't think people would mind if they
00:52:30
if they were going to get like a
00:52:31
beautiful portrait photo taken and it's
00:52:32
going to be in this handsome book well
00:52:34
you're really saying your ideas out loud
00:52:35
here let's hope no one else steals it
00:52:37
manifesting well hey one thing I've
00:52:39
learned from um other people that have
00:52:41
helped me on the way
00:52:42
um between two beers who we talked about
00:52:44
before James Marshall with his water lad
00:52:47
podcast
00:52:48
um Carl Thompson our old producer who
00:52:50
does a podcast called married divorce
00:52:52
and dating
00:52:53
um
00:52:54
sharing is sharing is better right like
00:52:57
there's another quote I really like it's
00:52:58
like don't make the walls of your house
00:53:00
bigger make the dining room bigger
00:53:02
okay what it means is like don't shut
00:53:04
people out have more people in
00:53:07
um that's cool yeah it's a different way
00:53:08
of looking at things but I like it
00:53:09
honestly Carl who I mentioned before our
00:53:12
old producer
00:53:13
um you you like you know me better than
00:53:16
most people I'm pointing right now to a
00:53:19
printer in the corner of the room you
00:53:21
come around to change the cartridges
00:53:23
um if it says the paper Gates not shut
00:53:26
properly you come around to fix that I'm
00:53:28
hopeless with technology this podcast
00:53:30
would not have been
00:53:31
um possible in the beginning without Cal
00:53:33
he told me the equipment he told me
00:53:36
exactly what equipment to buy he loaned
00:53:38
me some equipment to have a play around
00:53:39
with he showed me how to work he
00:53:42
basically wrote a podcast for dummies
00:53:44
list that's awesome by the way I've
00:53:46
ordered you a new printer and I got a
00:53:49
notification saying it's on its way okay
00:53:51
so I'm gonna get one with the it's an
00:53:53
Eco tank so you just fill it up you
00:53:56
can't stuff that up surely I can I'll
00:53:59
come around and install it you know when
00:54:01
I when I when uh when there's things
00:54:03
that I can't do like at the moment I'm
00:54:05
I'm trying to set up like a business us
00:54:06
Google Drive so all the videos from all
00:54:08
the podcasts go into this and I I don't
00:54:11
know how to do it I need other people to
00:54:13
help me and it makes me feel so shut
00:54:15
because my brain just doesn't my brain
00:54:18
just doesn't work that way I feel sad
00:54:19
that neither me nor your girlfriend Asha
00:54:21
are here to help you do that Ash I'll
00:54:24
help him out when I go these things you
00:54:26
know I had um I'll restart Harvey's
00:54:28
another gifts I had on the podcast and
00:54:29
he came sadly there's no video of him
00:54:31
either because he came on last year it
00:54:32
was very very gracious of him he's a big
00:54:34
star and he came on yeah we're still
00:54:37
growing it was really cool and he said
00:54:39
something
00:54:41
um he's he's on the Spectrum somewhere
00:54:43
or he's got ADHD and he's he said the
00:54:46
way it looks for him is that he
00:54:47
struggles with forms like filling in
00:54:49
forms his wife has to do all the forms
00:54:51
and that resonated with me it's like a
00:54:53
fun a fun thing informs for like a bank
00:54:55
line or something I you can do it
00:54:57
seamlessly like a hot knife going
00:54:59
through butter for me it's a struggle
00:55:01
yeah that might be the ADHD which I'm
00:55:03
pretty sure you have but you know what
00:55:05
that's fine I know how you work if
00:55:08
you've got forms to fill out I'll sort
00:55:10
it out and I'll put a little Post-it
00:55:12
notes
00:55:14
I'll come around and put you change your
00:55:16
print to cartridges
00:55:20
I'm still here for you I I appreciate
00:55:23
that I've got so many people helping me
00:55:25
and I I feel sometimes I feel lazy I
00:55:28
feel like I'm a piece of [ __ ] not lazy
00:55:30
I'm not a piece of [ __ ] you've got to
00:55:31
stop this negative self-talk Dom you are
00:55:35
way you're a much better person than you
00:55:36
give yourself credit for no but when
00:55:38
there's simple things that most people
00:55:40
can do and but you can do things that
00:55:43
other people can't do I know and I'm
00:55:45
sure there's other other people that
00:55:46
haven't been diagnosed but they think
00:55:48
they might be on the Spectrum somewhere
00:55:49
or they might have ADHD they feel
00:55:51
exactly the same way but these things
00:55:53
that everyone can do and you just can't
00:55:55
and you think what the [ __ ] is wrong
00:55:56
with me there's nothing wrong with you
00:55:58
you just think differently but you offer
00:56:00
so much more that other people can't
00:56:03
offer so just embrace your uniqueness
00:56:06
Embrace who you are and what you can do
00:56:09
and don't worry about the stuff you
00:56:11
can't because as you've learned you just
00:56:13
get other people to do it for you and
00:56:15
you're doing pretty well at that and Dom
00:56:16
you're all awesome
00:56:18
and then I'm going to wrap up this
00:56:19
podcast now thanks for listening that
00:56:22
was Dom Harvey being interviewed on his
00:56:24
own podcast Runners only
00:56:26
I'm JJ Feeney good night good morning
00:56:29
good afternoon whenever you're listening
00:56:31
to this
00:56:32
do I not even get the last word oh okay
00:56:34
sorry okay off you go
00:56:37
well no you've kind of ruined it there
00:56:39
oh
00:56:41
this is
00:56:47
fast paced slow and steady anyway you
00:56:50
coming just wanna connect for everyone
00:56:52
who loves running hey Runners only with
00:56:55
dom Harvey
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