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hey everybody welcome back to the all-in
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podcast we're here at the inauguration
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of our 47th president Donald J Trump and
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we have a very special guest joining us
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on our coverage Senator Ted Cruz from
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the great state now my great state of
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Texas welcome to the all-in podcast and
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welcome to Texas it's pretty great uh
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where'd you get the boots uh any chance
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I can get a recommendation here a refer
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that's easy these are lucazi
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uh the factory is in El Paso they're
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handmade there they're beautiful okay uh
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and and these particular Boots the front
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of them have the Senate seal on on them
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oh that's cool oh that's strong that's
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um and the back of them that's really
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great have the come and take it flag
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whoa which I don't know do you know the
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history of the come and take it flag I
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was about to ask you okay since you're a
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new Texan this is important and he
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started saying y'all so he's adapting
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but he needs to learn y'all got to stop
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giving me a hard time about that okay
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all right so Texas in the 18 20s and
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1830s we were part of Mexico and the
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dictator of Mexico was General Santa Ana
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and there's a little town in South Texas
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called the town of Gonzalez and then
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General Anna sent an order to the
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texians which is what we were called
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back then
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texians to hand over their guns and
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there was a cannon that guarded the city
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and General San Ana said hand over the
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cannon and the texians responded by
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making a flag with an image of the
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cannon and underneath it the Legend come
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and take it wow and and they flew it
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over the town and that was the beginning
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of the Texas Revolution now the epilogue
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is San Ana came in with about 6,000
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soldiers and he did in fact take the
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cannon I mean Gonzalez was a tiny little
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town and the Texas Revolution was very
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much like the American Revolution we
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lost every damn battle the Alamo was a
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Slaughter golad was a Slaughter much
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like Washington where every battle he
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lost and lost and lost and then at San
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Joo we won defeated Santa Ana General
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Sam Houston and we became our own Nation
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the Republic of Texas from 1836 to 1845
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says something about resiliency doesn't
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it it does let me ask you a question um
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having lived in New York and grown up
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there now and then done 20 years uh in
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California now my second year in Texas
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or starting my second year um it's
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amazing to me that you're allowed to
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build things in Texas like homes or
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factories and the price of home hes has
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gone down two years in a row and then
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the other two places I live the price of
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homes go up every year 10
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20% um and then you don't have state
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taxes um how is all this possible when
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you look at it just from first
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principles how are you able to
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accomplish so much development in Texas
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when in California the nimbyism like
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literally if you want to build yeah it's
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a great question a cancer W for children
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they'll stop you because it throws shade
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on a protected species of flower
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so California used to know the answer to
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this 50 years ago California was the
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economic engine of the country and
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unfortunately you're cursed by idiot
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politicians who were destroying this
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this Mighty economic engine you know
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none of this is rocket science in in
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Texas we believe in Freedom we believe
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in low taxes and low regulations and and
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to understand the
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state Texas was basically founded by a
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bunch of
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wildcats who were guys with fourth grade
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educ a that began drilling holes in the
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ground and one after the other became
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the richest man on Earth yeah and and
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the
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ethos of Texas you know it was
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interesting number of years ago I was
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visiting with with a CEO and an
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executive team of a company that had
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moved from California to
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Texas and they didn't have any Texas
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ties but they were just fed up with
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California they moved to Texas so I was
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asking them they only been in Texas for
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a couple of months I said all right
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what's the biggest
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difference and I thought maybe they'd
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say taxes or maybe regulations or maybe
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lawsuits those were the three things I
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was going to guess their answer blew me
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away they said the biggest difference is
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the
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culture and what they said is in
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California if you're in business you're
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a pariah they said look there's an
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exception for Tech and an exception for
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Hollywood if I need more yeah well I
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mean that was their view but they were
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not in Tech or Hollywood they they were
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in sanitation which was not a sexy
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business mhm and and the way they
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described it they said if you're at a
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party and someone asked what do you do
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and you say I'm a businessman
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they said people to turn around and walk
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away and I got to say as a Texan that is
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weird I mean we lionize entrepreneurs
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but California was a pioneering State
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the Gold Rush what happened because it's
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you know it's always easy to blame idiot
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politicians but in a democracy those
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politicians are elected by the voters so
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the something where did the voters go
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that caused this change in that state
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compared to where the voters went in
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Texas when they both came from and all
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of America all the United States all the
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the states of the Republic came from a a
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pioneering origin well there is a cause
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and a fact and you go back to 1987 and
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1987 is when Ronald Reagan signed
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amnesty into place and at the time there
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were 3 million illegal immigrants living
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in the United States and Congress went
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to the American people said all right we
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got a deal for you we're going to secure
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the Border we're going to fix the
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problem of illegal immigration forever
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and in exchange we're going to give
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amnesty to the 3 million people who are
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here illegally now right and in ' 87 the
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American people said okay that sounds
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like a reasonable deal they took the
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deal MH now we now know what happened
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which is the amnesty happened but the
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Border never got
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secured what did that mean for
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California the highest concentration of
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illegal immigrants was in California
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1988 California voted Republican the
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presidential race as it had for six
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consecutive years six consecutive Cycles
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previously right 1988 was the last year
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California ever went Republican well
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Schwarzenegger for president oh for
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president in in the presidential race
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and so I think the amnesty law played a
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significant part the federal law
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changing the voting composition of the
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state yeah and then and look you guys
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would know the state politics more but
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it also seemed to me that you have the
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public employee unions in California
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that realized that they could vote
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themselves more and more of of the large
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s
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of democracy right and it um so Jason
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brought up a really important question
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to kick this off um I just want to give
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you a chance to maybe expand on it which
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is there are so many examples Texas is
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one um you can look abroad the UAE as as
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an example is another where there's a
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high degree of quality of infrastructure
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and Y you know civility Social Services
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education security
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um but you don't have the traditional
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taxation right and so how is Texas able
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to actually keep the wheels
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on and States like California which has
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you know $322 billion budget is just
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completely falling apart how like what
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is what what happens because you then
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see everything at the federal level but
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when you go back to your state you see
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hey we don't have and and your real
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estate taxes aren't that much higher are
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they than California yeah the real
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estate taxes are a little bit higher but
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we have no income tax so it more more
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than makes up for it yeah yeah 2% one
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and a half to that's the principal
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Avenue of Taxation you got real estate
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taxes and sales taxes or or where the
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state and and local governments get
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their taxes uh but no income tax look
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some of it is government does less uh I
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mean there's a philosophy that
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government doesn't have to spend and
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provide everything government does
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police and firefighters and Roads and
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does the basic responsibilities of
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government right but it's not not
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engaged in funding every pet project of
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every politician right
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um that's part of
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it you know you look at across the
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country I mean it is not a complicated
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migration pattern that people are
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fleeing bright blue states with high
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taxes and high regulations yeah and they
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are coming to Red states with low taxes
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and low
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regulations any safety so we've had it
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has now been more than a DEC that we
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have had over a thousand people a day
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moving to Texas so when I was first
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elected 13 years ago we had 26 million
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Texans today we have over 31 million
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Texans so we've added 5 million Texans
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in 13 years and and the biggest state
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folks come from is California it's
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interesting the migration pattern you
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get a lot of California to Texas New
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Yorkers tend to go to Florida more we
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get some New Yorkers but but for
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whatever
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reason West Coast folks seem to prefer
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Texas and East Coast folks seem to
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prefer Florida but I actually think the
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competition in terms of where we lose
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people
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to we lose people either to Florida or
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Tennessee those are about the only two
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places if someone's thinking of leaving
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and I love that competition I want
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Florida and Tennessee to be out fighting
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and saying we can create an even better
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environment for small businesses and
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jobs and and part of it
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is the number one reason people come to
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Texas is Texas where the jobs are and
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you want an environment where you have
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small businesses are doing great but
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people also want to be safe and and so
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you know you look at things like like
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defunding the police or Soros
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prosecutors that let murderers go yep
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and that gives people a pretty acute
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incentive to get the heck out we uh were
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involved in the recall of Chess budine
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our podcast and David Sachs our
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compatriot who couldn't make it um he's
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he's busy working uh with you guys here
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um but yeah this this crime issue seems
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people have seemed to Lost uh they seem
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to have lost a script on who the state
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is working for the taxpayers or the
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criminals and in Texas it it's just
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extraordinary that you've figured out
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that you could prioritize the people not
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committing crime and not cater to the
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people committing crime I mean I'm
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saying this in the most factious way
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possible but it's just common sense and
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I think it it feels to me like
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Californians have had enough and it's
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just going to take a decade or two to
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unwind it but let's let's double click
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on immigration since the the great state
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of Texas has to deal with this than
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anybody but this is a land of immigrants
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we are all immigrants on this land and
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so that's our tradition in fact you're
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sitting next to two extraordinary
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immigrants my my Bes chamat and freeberg
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what do you believe at this point in
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time is America for the Americans are
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here or do you believe we should be
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getting the best and brightest to come
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to this country look absolutely both um
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I have for a long time describe my
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immigration views in in four words legal
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good illegal bat okay um I think most
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Americans most Texans agree with that
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and most immigrants yeah look there's a
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right way to come to this country
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there's the way you came to this country
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there's the way my dad came to this
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country my dad was born in Cuba he grew
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up in Cuba he fought in the Cuban
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Revolution when he was a teenager he
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fought was thrown in prison he was
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tortured when he was 17 years old and he
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came to Texas in 1957 he he was 18
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couldn't speak English had $100 in his
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underwear and he washed dishes making 50
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cents an hour but he came legally
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because he had applied to the University
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of Texas he'd gotten in he came on a
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student visa and he was an 18e old
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freshman and he started going to school
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here and he came legally and he worked
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and and got a job and went on in time to
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start a small business and and work was
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he able to see your success is he still
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with us he is my dad is 85 oh my God
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what a dream for him he he is my hero it
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is he he's an incredible he I will say
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when you have lost freedom
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it's personal to you yeah you know
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people ask sometimes you know why why do
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you do
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politics and and I grew up as a kid I
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would sit on the floor along with my
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cousin BBE with my dad and and bib's Mom
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my theonia and she
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also she was also imprisoned and
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tortured in Cuba and we would sit and
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sit and listen to them tell stories yeah
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and all I ever wanted to do from when I
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was three four five years old was was be
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a freedom fighter
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I mean it was it's inspiring because
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what they said and still say and they're
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both still going strong is is look
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if the only thing that prevents us from
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tyranny is having good people in office
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who will fight for our freedoms and so I
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got to tell you today I I literally jump
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out of bed every day because I I look at
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the US Senate and I think it is
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basically the Roman Coliseum and and you
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strap on some armor and you grab a
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battle ax and and you go fight the Barb
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Varan and and that is that that's an
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amazing opportunity I I feel blessed and
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fortunate every day you are in Arena do
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you think it's become we were talking
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with ro cona congressman from California
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earlier uh today and we talked about how
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there might be good policy put forth by
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one of the two parties but the other
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party's intention is always to get more
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seats get more attention get more votes
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and hurt the other party so we end up
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having conflict over policy do you feel
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like there's too much of that in DC and
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a lot of people talk about the you know
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everything has become too politicized as
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opposed to you know I always think about
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the show I love the show the westwing
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and he always talks about the great
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debate you know like we never have the
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great debate anymore we don't talk about
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the fundamental you know policy
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decisions we talk about the Republicans
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said this and so and so it gets personal
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and it gets political as opposed to like
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let's all take our hats off and talk
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about what's the right thing for the
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country Doge being a great example in my
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opinion but I'd love to hear your point
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of view on how things operate in DC
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today well well listen I I agree with
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your point at the outset which is that
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we need to talk to each other um I worry
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that we are too polarized and and
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tribalize that the left only listens to
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left-wing media the right listens to
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right-wing media anyone who disagrees
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you scream at them uh the the sense of
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community and and that we used to have
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has been
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badly badly unraveled you know on social
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media if someone agrees with you you
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unfriend them and and we're all in this
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little Echo chain but we're all Patriots
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is the sad part all Americans all
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Americans but we're we're living in
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alternate realities and and so look what
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y'all are doing is really important I'm
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grateful for this podcast we got to talk
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to each other um I do a podcast every
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week called verdict with Ted Cruz we've
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got about a million unique listeners
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that listen to the verdict podcast and
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we do it Monday Wednesday and Friday
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every week my podcast is beating CNN
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yeah it's incredible and I think the
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reason is the same reason people listen
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to you guys because you're actually
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talking about issues and you're not just
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screaming at each other you know it's
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it's not Jerry Springer go grab a a
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chair and fling it at somebody but it's
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have a real and substantive conversation
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and I'll tell you one of the things that
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I've done and enjoyed is I've taken the
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podcast on the road to college
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campuses and so couple what has that
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been like well for example we did one at
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at Yale a couple years ago and had about
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700 students come out and I know how the
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reaction would be and interestingly
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enough about a third of the students
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were left of center and and and I know
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that because it was right after kataji
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Brown Jackson was confirmed and I made a
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reference to that and about a third of
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the room began cheering and and I
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stopped and I said hey look the fact
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that you're cheering at that shows that
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obviously we're coming from different
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places on the political Spectrum I said
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I want to thank you especially for
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coming here uh because you may not agree
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with me on on everything or even most
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things yeah but but thank you for coming
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and being part of a conversation and so
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we did it's about 90 minutes of all Q&A
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and and we had a rule we said if if you
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have a hostile question if you have an
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antagonistic question come to the front
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of the line and we spent 90 minutes
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having a real conversation afterwards I
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I went out with an orthodox Rabbi on
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campus and and we got a drink and he
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said he said Ted you know I've been
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working on Yale's
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campus for decades he said this is the
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biggest group of students I've seen have
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a positive civil constructive
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conversation on conservative ideas he
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said in 20 years there's something about
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the podcast format where you're taking a
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little bit of time you're not rushed in
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six or seven minutes like you are on the
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weekly shows where I see you all the
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time uh and and that's sparring yeah and
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you're just trying to get a message out
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in three minutes five minutes but here
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you know you can open it up maybe listen
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to each other invite guests in with
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different opinions learn something uh
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with the specifically the immigration
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issue which seems to be the one that's
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tearing us apart a whole bunch there's
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so much consensus hey we we want the
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board to close we want it legal but we
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also want to bring in a certain number
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of people and we want a system and uh
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you know I did my research on this and
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places that have consensus like Canada
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uh Japan Australia New Zealand just they
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they seem to understand that you need to
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match immigration to the reality of
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unemployment and which jobs you need but
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the one criticism I have of politicians
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which I think you're one of um sadly
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iest charge yeah is you you you all
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don't talk about it in numbers we need
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this many nurses we need this many
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doctors we need this many construction
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people we have 4% unemployment record
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great job uh to our politicians and
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helping that out um you know we can
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bring in two million people this year
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hey if it goes up to 5% we're going to
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bring in 1.5 I I wish that the
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discussion could be more granular and
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with numbers and you guys could actually
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say it's not 500 it's 450 because if we
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were in a business decision here and we
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do business together and we say hey we
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have to deploy these resources to get
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this outcome but it's so contentious and
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polarized and not fact and number based
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why is that on this issue that you guys
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can't just put some numbers on paper so
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well look there there are a lot of
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numbers that matter intensely let's
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start at one where you talked about low
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unemployment as you know that number can
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be deceptive because we also have among
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the lowest labor force participation
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we've ever had 62% right now and so
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there are millions that have just
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dropped out of the labor force
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altogether they're not measuring in in
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Topline unemployment but it's still a
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real challenge we have healthy young
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adults who should be working and who are
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not working why aren't they in your mind
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is it because they have the resources to
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not do that um look I think it and I
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think it varies state by state but I
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think when you have a welfare state
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where you get paid for not working it's
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bad incentive people end up not working
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and the statistics are really crushing
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that if anyone doesn't work for a year
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the odds of their going back to the
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workforce drop precipitously that once
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someone gets the habit of dependency I
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I've said a bunch of times you know I I
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try to think of of every policy from the
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perspective of easing the means of
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ascent up the economic ladder and I
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think about you know my dad when when he
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was a teenage kid in Austin washing
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dishes thank God some well-meaning
00:19:20
liberal didn't come to him and and say
00:19:22
Rafael let me take care of you right
00:19:24
totally just stay home let me send you a
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government check don't work so hard at
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and and it's utterly destructive it it
00:19:30
breaks your your self-respect your
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individual responsibility but it comes
00:19:36
from an empathetic Place Center Senator
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so and and and I know this like in you
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know in kind of a a liberal setting you
00:19:43
see people in need you want to help them
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and you use government as a tool to help
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people in need and the fundamental issue
00:19:49
is that in many cases that creates an
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incentive model that makes it very
00:19:52
difficult for that solution for that
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situation to find a solution on its own
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a market solution and over time it gets
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bigger and bigger and bigger and you
00:20:01
have cascading effects that I believe
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we're now realizing in this country with
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what I estimated somewhere between 40 to
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50% of people that are employed in this
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country employed by government or
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government um service providers and
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you're right that much of it is not from
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ill will and and and but we do need to
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have a real conversation about what
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works to lift people into prosperity and
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and by the way all of us know this in
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our own life if if your kid let's say
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you have a kindergarten who's struggling
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with math there's not a one of us who
00:20:31
would do our kids math homework y we
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know that's not helping them that that
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if your daughter doesn't learn to do
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arithmetic it's going to hurt her for
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the rest of her life so you've got to
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work through that problem with her even
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if itd be easier for you just to finish
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it for right we know that in our lives
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um you know the old adage of give a man
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a fish you feed him for a day teach a
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man to fish you feed him for a lifetime
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right we know that with people we love
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but yet when it comes to public public
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policy you have a lot of people who
00:21:01
don't think about it more broadly I'll
00:21:02
say back in
00:21:03
2017 I I did three different CNN Town
00:21:07
Hall debates with Bernie Sanders and
00:21:10
listen I like Bernie because he is an
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Unapologetic socialist yeah and I'm an
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apologetic
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capitalist and we had 90-minute Town
00:21:18
Hall debates on on which system was
00:21:21
better for maximizing human prosperity
00:21:23
and abundance yep and we didn't insult
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each other neither of us called each
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other a son of a [ __ ]
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we talked about the facts and and and
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I'll point out something let's take
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socialized medicine it's interesting the
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as The Advocates of socialized medicine
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when I pointed out all of the problems
00:21:40
socialized medicine produces in every
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country in which it's been implemented
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the United Kingdom
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Canada Bernie's answer was well it
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wouldn't be that way here so the reality
00:21:49
would not be here every year about
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50,000 Canadians come to America on what
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they call medical tourism because they
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can't get the medical care they need in
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Canada
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and I will suggest to you a question
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particularly for those of y'all that are
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are
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Californians that I love asking
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Advocates of socialized
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medicine why didn't California adopt it
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right you've got a Democrat Governor
00:22:12
you've got a Democrat super majority
00:22:14
legislature there's no constitutional
00:22:15
impediment California could adopt
00:22:17
socialized medicine today yep right it's
00:22:19
not the mean old Republicans that are
00:22:22
stopping them and as you know the
00:22:23
legislature looked at it and realized it
00:22:25
would bankrupt them by the way Vermont
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Bernie's home state they could adopt it
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and the reason you don't see California
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or New York or Illinois or Vermont or
00:22:34
any blue state in America adopt
00:22:35
socialized medicine it wouldn't work
00:22:37
doesn't work it wouldn't work and people
00:22:39
would flee their state and so their
00:22:41
answer is we want to do it to everyone
00:22:44
in the entire country so you can't flee
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unless you're willing to leave America
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you're stuck and I think what's
00:22:48
challenging Senator is that then you
00:22:50
have compromises that get you to a point
00:22:52
where the federal government has a big
00:22:54
enough role in healthcare my opinion is
00:22:56
much of the inflation in healthare costs
00:22:58
arises from the federal government's
00:23:00
role in the same way that the federal
00:23:01
government has a role in student loans
00:23:03
that has driven up the cost of education
00:23:05
and the federal government has a role in
00:23:06
providing loans for housing has also
00:23:08
driven up the cost of housing educ
00:23:10
education across the board dists the
00:23:12
free market but the empathetic solution
00:23:15
is we need to provide access to those
00:23:16
who can't get it and then at the end of
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the day it inflates the cost of all of
00:23:20
those services and ultimately the
00:23:21
quality of the services the roads and
00:23:23
I'll give you the anecdote real quick
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yeah my brother lives in England they
00:23:26
just had a child he and his partner and
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went to the delivery room and they
00:23:29
couldn't get a bed for lab she was in
00:23:32
labor they could not get a bed to have
00:23:34
the baby I think it took them 36 to 72
00:23:36
hours to actually get into a bed while
00:23:38
she was in labor it was the most insane
00:23:40
he's calling me he can't get a bed it
00:23:41
was I'm like you're living in the
00:23:43
fraking UK this is supposed to be one of
00:23:45
the wealthiest Nations on Earth that's
00:23:46
the outcome of socialized medicine and
00:23:48
along the way you get the inflationary
00:23:50
effects that we're dealing with in the
00:23:51
United States today I'm with you on
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sorry let's uh you're the quarterback
00:23:57
okay quarterback the next two weeks of
00:24:00
the Trump
00:24:02
Administration well on Monday we're
00:24:04
going to see a flurry of executive
00:24:05
orders I think it'll be in the
00:24:06
neighborhood 100 executive orders I'm
00:24:08
optimistic about them that's the number
00:24:10
they're talking about wow it it it's
00:24:11
going to be in that neighborhood
00:24:13
shocking off and I actually I'm I'm
00:24:16
pretty happy about that now look will I
00:24:18
agree with all 100 I don't know my guess
00:24:20
is I'll agree with the vast majority of
00:24:22
them but I don't know everything that's
00:24:23
in there so we'll see and in some ways
00:24:25
it'll just make it almost impossible for
00:24:27
the Democrats to react because where do
00:24:28
you focus yes and and and Jamal that's
00:24:32
actually a point you know I think back
00:24:34
to so my wife Heidi and I met on the
00:24:37
2000 George W Bush campaign and and so
00:24:39
we both served uh as young people in the
00:24:42
Bush Administration and and I I think
00:24:44
there is a Quantum of outrage and I call
00:24:47
it the arsonic Quantum of outrage if you
00:24:50
remember the beginning of bush
00:24:51
43 one of the first things he did is his
00:24:55
EPA revoked a rule on arsenic and for
00:24:58
like 6 weeks the media saturated the
00:25:01
airwaves with the evil Republicans want
00:25:03
to poison our children with Arsenic and
00:25:05
I mean it was it dominated forever and
00:25:08
they beat The Living Daylights out of
00:25:09
him for it now look Monday when you get
00:25:11
a 100 executive orders I think that's
00:25:14
how much outrage there
00:25:15
ish and that arsonic Quantum of outrage
00:25:19
will be directed at everything
00:25:21
smeared which makes it very hard for
00:25:23
them to oppose anything coherently and
00:25:27
directly and gives an opportunity I hope
00:25:30
for this Administration what I'd like to
00:25:32
see is really
00:25:34
delivering on the Mandate of this
00:25:36
election the outcomes in November let's
00:25:38
ask that what were yeah what were the if
00:25:40
you had to distill what are your
00:25:42
specific takeaways as the Mandate in
00:25:44
priority so number one secure the border
00:25:46
and I believe that'll start on January
00:25:48
20th it will start by ending Catch and
00:25:50
Release so that when people are
00:25:52
apprehended they are detained and
00:25:53
they're sent back to where they came
00:25:55
from yeah um I think that will be
00:25:58
followed up by going and arresting
00:26:00
criminal illegal aliens going and
00:26:03
arresting murderers and rapists and
00:26:04
child molesters and G and gang bangers I
00:26:07
think all of that will roll out very
00:26:09
very fast I think there is also a
00:26:11
mandate to end the federal government's
00:26:13
war on energy on Texas oil and gas um
00:26:17
and that will lower prices at the gas
00:26:19
pump at the grocery store every Bill
00:26:22
people are paying and I think if you
00:26:24
look at the top two issues in this
00:26:26
election uh it it was illegal
00:26:29
immigration and safety and it was
00:26:31
inflation in the economy I think we will
00:26:34
also
00:26:37
see a lessening of the job killing
00:26:40
regulations on small businesses a return
00:26:42
to thriving booming economic growth what
00:26:45
would those be look there are a host of
00:26:47
them energy is is is the easy example
00:26:50
where where the the Biden
00:26:51
administrations put in over 90 different
00:26:54
regulations and executive orders all
00:26:56
designed to drive up the cost of energy
00:26:58
right so the input gets higher and
00:27:00
everybody suffers got it and so I expect
00:27:02
I expect pretty much all of those to be
00:27:05
reversed hydrocarbon and then subsidies
00:27:07
for quote green
00:27:09
energy look I I think on energy we ought
00:27:12
to pursue all of the above uh beyond
00:27:15
that I think I think there is also a
00:27:17
mandate on the economic side the 2017
00:27:21
Trump tax cuts are expiring this year
00:27:23
we're going to extend them my hope is we
00:27:25
make them bigger and Bolder that's going
00:27:27
to take some time we'll do that through
00:27:29
What's called the reconciliation process
00:27:32
and then on on foreign
00:27:34
policy I think under Biden we have
00:27:38
abandoned and alienated our friends and
00:27:40
we've shown weakness and appeasement to
00:27:42
our enemies I think that will stop right
00:27:44
on Monday as well Senator you just said
00:27:46
five things but what you didn't say was
00:27:48
Doge so cutting taxes there's an
00:27:51
inflation problem there's no way you're
00:27:52
cutting taxes and not cutting government
00:27:54
spending and not tampering inflation
00:27:56
down don't we have to cut federal
00:27:59
spending how important is Doge how real
00:28:01
is it is it a marketing gimmick from
00:28:02
your point of view how much can actually
00:28:04
be done is it a real you know is is this
00:28:07
kind of require legislative Authority
00:28:09
and it's going to be a longer form
00:28:10
process or is there going to be a lot of
00:28:12
very quick action so and I'm happy to
00:28:15
answer that directly let me just say one
00:28:17
thing you just said there um with
00:28:19
respect is incorrect yes you said
00:28:21
there's no way we're cutting taxes and
00:28:23
not cutting spending and having
00:28:25
inflation stay down and I just saying
00:28:28
that's objectively false because that's
00:28:30
exactly what happened in the first Trump
00:28:31
term which is the 2017 tax cuts CBO had
00:28:35
these apocalyptic projection y about
00:28:38
you're saying tax revenue grow went up
00:28:39
as the as the economy grow tax revenue
00:28:41
went up every single year after we cut
00:28:44
the taxes the revenue from the federal
00:28:45
government went up so we cut taxes sadly
00:28:49
we did not cut spending yeah um I tried
00:28:52
mightily to cut spending but we did not
00:28:54
have the votes to do it and inflation
00:28:57
still stayed down so the econom is
00:28:59
booming yeah you can turn things around
00:29:01
look Doge but is there a deficit mandate
00:29:04
so I am excited about Doge um Elon is a
00:29:08
good friend I admire the hell out of him
00:29:10
I'm thrilled that he's a
00:29:12
Texan um you know I've joked with Elon
00:29:15
that that that he doesn't just think
00:29:17
outside the box he doesn't know there is
00:29:18
a damn box that that's a great thing um
00:29:23
now Elon calls me periodically going
00:29:25
what all right what the hell is this
00:29:26
government thing how does this work this
00:29:27
way and I'm I'm trying to give whatever
00:29:30
guidance I can on that but I think how
00:29:33
you deal with uh a
00:29:38
disruptor uh in government is going to
00:29:40
be an interesting challenge VC is is
00:29:43
very smart very
00:29:45
creative I will say a couple of
00:29:48
challenges right now look I'm excited
00:29:50
about Doge I want to see some big bold
00:29:52
creative ideas I'm going to give you two
00:29:55
warning
00:29:56
signs number one the phrase waste Fraud
00:29:59
and Abuse MH anytime someone talks about
00:30:01
waste Fraud and Abuse they don't really
00:30:03
want to cut government spending you know
00:30:05
why because there is no waste Fraud and
00:30:07
Abuse caucus there's no one that says
00:30:09
I'm for the waste so it's the easy place
00:30:12
to go we'll cut the waste if you
00:30:15
actually cut real government spending
00:30:18
there is always always always a
00:30:20
constituency who's pissed off who likes
00:30:22
the thing they're getting totally and so
00:30:24
you have lots of politicians who say
00:30:26
they're going to lose they're going to
00:30:26
lose their votes right somebody will be
00:30:29
matad that's right and and so that is a
00:30:32
challenge I will say secondly at least
00:30:35
in the first term Donald Trump did not
00:30:38
campaign as a small government
00:30:40
conservative and he did not govern as a
00:30:43
small government conservative and in
00:30:44
fact I I will relay a story at at the
00:30:47
end of the first term you remember we're
00:30:50
in covid and and the government is in
00:30:52
the business of sending out checks and
00:30:54
more checks and more checks to people
00:30:55
all over the country andum TR wanted the
00:30:58
checks to be even bigger and a lot of
00:31:00
the folks in the White House they asked
00:31:02
me they said Ted can can you go try to
00:31:03
talk him talk him down from this Lynch y
00:31:06
that's a tough job so so I went on Air
00:31:08
Force One and and I'm sitting there with
00:31:11
the president I'm trying to make the
00:31:12
case that we don't need these gigantic
00:31:14
uh stimulus checks and he goes Ted and I
00:31:18
get the back of the hand he goes Ted no
00:31:21
one ever lost an election by spending
00:31:23
too much money I said yeah but they did
00:31:25
bankrupt the
00:31:26
country so I did not succeed then well
00:31:30
you know what you should have done you
00:31:31
should have asked him to keep the same
00:31:33
number but just make the check larger
00:31:34
and the signature bigger that's a good
00:31:36
idea look I I'll go with it he likes are
00:31:38
you a small government conservative very
00:31:40
much so and is what percent if there if
00:31:43
no one was going to be able to run for
00:31:45
reelection what percent of Congress do
00:31:47
you think would support a massive
00:31:49
reduction in government agencies how
00:31:52
much of this really is driven by this
00:31:53
kind of I got to get reelected so look
00:31:55
it's it's a good versus what I versus
00:31:57
what principes tell me yeah listen I I
00:31:59
am also a passionate advocate of term
00:32:01
limits so so I have
00:32:03
introduced uh in every Congress a
00:32:05
constitutional amendment that would
00:32:06
limit Senators to two terms limit house
00:32:08
members to three terms yeah I think term
00:32:10
limits would change that dynamic in a
00:32:12
very significant way right and the
00:32:14
career politicians in both parties
00:32:15
oppose it um look on any big spending
00:32:19
bill you unfortunately have a bipartisan
00:32:22
Coalition in favor of spending you have
00:32:23
essentially all the Democrats and about
00:32:26
half the Republicans there about 20 of
00:32:29
us who will vote against a trillion
00:32:31
dollar spending Bill and and and we are
00:32:34
frequently begging our colleagues and to
00:32:37
be honest I don't think we will ever see
00:32:39
real spending
00:32:41
restraint without strong presidential
00:32:43
leadership which means it will never
00:32:45
come from a Joe Biden or KLA
00:32:47
Harris and look if if Elon and beet
00:32:50
convince president Trump that he's going
00:32:52
to lean in aggressively on on cutting
00:32:54
spending great but that hadn't happened
00:32:56
so far what would it take for for the
00:32:58
voters to eventually get there because
00:32:59
it would require the voters backing a
00:33:01
candidate with that message and it seems
00:33:02
like no one sees that because what
00:33:04
everyone sees is I want to get X and the
00:33:06
only way I get X is if I get the
00:33:07
government to do X for me yeah look it
00:33:09
it varies it takes electing strong
00:33:12
leaders so I elections matter and and I
00:33:15
engage so so I think I've probably
00:33:18
campaigned for more candidates for
00:33:20
Senate house and and governorship than
00:33:22
any Republican in the country I mean I
00:33:24
travel all over the country I endorse
00:33:26
candidates and I follow the old Bill
00:33:28
Buckley role which is I support the most
00:33:31
Conservative candidate who can win yeah
00:33:34
and that varies look look a candidate
00:33:36
who can win in Texas is different than a
00:33:38
candidate who can win in Maine yeah
00:33:39
right and and so but but I can say the
00:33:43
problem is you get I can tell you in
00:33:45
Texas I mean when I ran 2012 I ran for
00:33:49
Senate I'd never been elected before
00:33:51
yeah never been elected to nothing yeah
00:33:54
literally the last thing I was elected
00:33:56
to was student counsil
00:33:58
by the way Cham you may not remember
00:33:59
this you actually wrote me a check that
00:34:01
race I was going to tell that St we
00:34:02
looked it up which because we were
00:34:04
together in Utah y Peter teal had an
00:34:07
event or he does his thing and we had a
00:34:10
breakfast and uh Ted was surrounded by
00:34:15
sort of a handful of us who were
00:34:17
speaking to him and then what I would
00:34:18
say is like every
00:34:20
traditional Democrat from Central castle
00:34:24
and he went through the firing squad and
00:34:25
he came out the other side and I thought
00:34:27
wow this this is really great and so
00:34:29
then I I was I was very happy to donate
00:34:32
well I I was you you were a demned donor
00:34:33
back then I was a demned donor but I but
00:34:35
see here's the thing like and I think
00:34:37
what you're getting what I think what
00:34:39
the senator speaks to which is what I
00:34:41
agree with
00:34:42
is ideology matters and so when you make
00:34:45
decisions about how you think the
00:34:46
country should
00:34:48
run you should stay loyal to that and I
00:34:51
think what happens instead is people
00:34:54
stay loyal to a party Y and it's the
00:34:56
minute you do that that the whole thing
00:34:57
breaks and this is what's broken and I
00:34:59
think what the great thing that Donald
00:35:01
Trump did was he basically conducted a
00:35:04
hostile takeover of the Republican Party
00:35:05
undoubtedly yeah and then committed subu
00:35:09
and that's the most important thing that
00:35:10
happens I mean are reset you don't have
00:35:14
to go and kick the COA ring what will
00:35:16
they say what will all this
00:35:17
infrastructure say what does Sor say all
00:35:20
of that is done the whole thing's
00:35:22
flipped over hey Senator you that's very
00:35:24
powerful I you had an anecdote from me
00:35:25
two nights ago I don't know if you're
00:35:26
willing to share it about a convers
00:35:27
regarding Denmark and
00:35:29
Greenland do you want to tell us what
00:35:31
you think uh so happens here look my
00:35:35
view on Denmark and Greenland so I did a
00:35:37
podcast two weeks ago on Denmark
00:35:40
Greenland and Canada and I did all all
00:35:42
three of them on my verdict podcast and
00:35:45
and I put them in a spectrum let's start
00:35:47
with Canada I think the president's
00:35:50
Canada remarks we're just trolling I
00:35:52
think he was just screwing with Trudeau
00:35:53
I think he was sitting at the table and
00:35:55
decided you know why are you even
00:35:57
country you ought to be a state you
00:35:59
should be a governor that I send jcal
00:36:00
texts like that all the
00:36:02
time you know I would have paid frankly
00:36:04
to be sitting at that table to see
00:36:06
Trudeau's face in fact um look it was
00:36:09
reminiscent if you remember in the
00:36:11
2016 uh campaign on the debate stage
00:36:14
where Trump turned Rand Paul was at the
00:36:16
end and he's like why are you even on
00:36:18
this stage and what is it with your hair
00:36:20
yeah I I mean it was the same sort of
00:36:21
comment that was just just messing with
00:36:24
him yeah um I put that in one and by the
00:36:27
way way that may be the most epic troll
00:36:29
of all time because I think that
00:36:31
literally pushed Trudeau into resign
00:36:33
crazy huh I mean it it's a fair why
00:36:35
would he not why would he do that go to
00:36:36
Maro I mean such a stupid thing to do he
00:36:38
just should have been like yeah you know
00:36:40
we're our own sovereign country Banks
00:36:42
well he was already I think we he go he
00:36:44
likes he likes to go with the trend so
00:36:45
that was the trend yeah that's what
00:36:46
happens when you're a weather v um I
00:36:48
will say I I couldn't resist tweeting
00:36:50
and said you know trau lasted really
00:36:52
long for a son of Fidel
00:36:54
Castle which wa
00:36:58
no no no keep telling us
00:36:59
about can yeah denark Greenland um
00:37:03
Greenland on the other hand I think is a
00:37:05
very serious policy proposal and and I
00:37:08
think there are you know Trump mentioned
00:37:10
this in the first term and a lot of
00:37:11
people dismissed it oh this is just
00:37:13
Trump talking wacky yeah but I think
00:37:15
there are
00:37:16
enormous National Security and economic
00:37:19
reasons why acquiring Greenland makes a
00:37:21
ton of sense and you look at Greenland's
00:37:24
location on the Arctic it has incred
00:37:27
inedibly prime location on the Arctic if
00:37:29
from a national security perspective God
00:37:32
forbid we ever get in a shooting war
00:37:34
with China or with Russia icbms are
00:37:38
coming right over the Arctic right and
00:37:39
Greenland is a prime location to deal
00:37:43
with that we're also seeing more
00:37:44
shipping lanes coming in and around the
00:37:46
Arctic and China and Russia are both
00:37:48
competing for prized prized access there
00:37:53
Greenland makes an enormous sense from
00:37:54
that perspective it also makes an
00:37:56
enormous perspective from critic
00:37:57
minerals and rare earth minerals they
00:37:59
have vast amounts uh and so what I said
00:38:03
is look I think we should pursue this
00:38:05
seriously I'll tell you I had a
00:38:06
conversation this week with the Danish
00:38:08
ambassador to the United States um and
00:38:11
and look Denmark's a little freaked out
00:38:12
by all this conversation Y and and I'll
00:38:15
tell you what I told the Ambassador I
00:38:16
said listen Denmark is our friend you
00:38:18
our Ally you will continue to be our
00:38:20
friend and Ally but friends and allies
00:38:23
can have conversations we can have and
00:38:25
and the Ambassador said well well
00:38:26
Greenland's not for sale I said that's
00:38:27
fine everything's for sale we're going
00:38:30
to have a conversation and and by the
00:38:32
way if you maintain that one of the
00:38:34
things this has produced is a growing
00:38:36
independence movement in Greenland
00:38:37
totally and if you do nothing you may
00:38:39
end up getting nothing for Greenland
00:38:41
because they break off on the Run
00:38:42
totally right now look for it to happen
00:38:46
I think you would probably have to have
00:38:47
a referendum on Greenland yep I find it
00:38:51
quite plausible that the greenlanders
00:38:53
about 50,000 of them yeah would say wait
00:38:55
a second I get to be an American they P
00:38:57
just showed positive results he just did
00:38:58
a survey there I mean to to become an
00:39:00
American is in many ways the greatest
00:39:02
gift we can give anyone on planet Earth
00:39:05
totally and the billions in investment
00:39:08
if Greenland became an American
00:39:09
territory the difference it would make
00:39:11
for greenlanders well Senator we could
00:39:12
pay 200 billion dollars for the
00:39:14
territory to Denmark they would their
00:39:16
federal debt or their National debts
00:39:17
about 150 billion they'd have a 50
00:39:19
billion Surplus they could build a
00:39:20
pension plan around want that's why we
00:39:22
have you could spend another you could
00:39:23
spend another 10 billion to put everyone
00:39:25
in a great situation for the rest of
00:39:26
their life a resident of Greenland and
00:39:28
that becomes an American territory and
00:39:30
be like a whole new philosophy for us I
00:39:32
think we just go right to 60 States
00:39:34
let's just make an open offer no but so
00:39:35
so it's and and yeah and sorry how does
00:39:37
the president of the administration how
00:39:38
are they going to tackle this or do you
00:39:39
have any insights into what's going to
00:39:40
happen here so look uh Ken Howry you
00:39:42
guys know I know is a good friend who
00:39:44
has been nominated the ambassador to
00:39:45
Denmark I've talked with good friend of
00:39:47
yeah talked with Ken just yesterday
00:39:48
about this y um I think we need to lean
00:39:51
in and try to negotiate both with with
00:39:53
Denmark and Greenland um I'm certainly
00:39:55
from the Senate going to push it but I
00:39:57
wanted contrasted is Canada become going
00:39:59
to become a state no but Greenland
00:40:01
listen we acquired make it a protractor
00:40:04
Louisiana Purchase we purchased from
00:40:06
France Alaska we purchased from Russia I
00:40:08
mean there's a long history of this
00:40:10
totally Puerto Rico next let's go if
00:40:12
they want to come on board why not well
00:40:14
it's an American this it's a it's not a
00:40:17
state and so Panama I view as kind of in
00:40:20
the middle of the two right and and
00:40:21
Panama is a little more
00:40:23
complicated look I think Jimmy Carter
00:40:26
giving away the Panama Canal now remains
00:40:29
one of the most spectacularly stupid
00:40:31
decisions a president has ever done in
00:40:33
office I think it was profoundly harmful
00:40:35
to US National Security interest to our
00:40:38
economic
00:40:39
interest that being said it's been long
00:40:41
enough that unwinding it is really tough
00:40:45
yeah however president Trump if you
00:40:47
listen to what he's saying on Panama
00:40:49
he's he's got actually some very
00:40:51
sophisticated legal arguments that he's
00:40:53
making number one when we gave the
00:40:56
Panama Canal to technically sold it for
00:40:58
a dollar uh we had a binding agreement
00:41:00
that laid out the terms of that transfer
00:41:03
yeah and one argument that President
00:41:05
Trump has put forth is that Panama is in
00:41:09
violation of that agreement because they
00:41:11
have allowed China to effectively seize
00:41:13
control of the canal how is that because
00:41:16
a Chinese state-owned Enterprise owns a
00:41:18
building on one end of the canal and on
00:41:21
the other end of the can and should we
00:41:23
be at a point of conflict military or
00:41:26
other with China it's not ult to imagine
00:41:28
those Chinese State own Enterprises
00:41:30
using that location to try to shut down
00:41:33
anyone traversing the sounds like they
00:41:35
avoided the contract I that's that's a
00:41:37
pretty powerful argument the second
00:41:39
argument and I had breakfast this
00:41:40
morning with with President Trump he had
00:41:42
breakfast with all the Republican
00:41:43
Senators two and a half hours he gets
00:41:45
sworn in tomorrow and he spent two and a
00:41:47
half hours stamina stream of
00:41:49
Consciousness talking we talked about
00:41:51
Pano he's pointing out uh the president
00:41:53
said this morning said US Navy ships pay
00:41:56
double
00:41:58
what any other country's Navy ships pay
00:42:00
right he said that that american
00:42:02
commercial ships pay 58% more y than
00:42:07
other nations pay look we need to drill
00:42:08
down into those facts but on the face of
00:42:11
it I think there's a powerful argument
00:42:14
that that's inconsistent with the terms
00:42:16
of the agreement and is the final
00:42:19
outcome of this that we get total
00:42:21
control of the Panama Canal back
00:42:23
probably not I think that's a high lift
00:42:26
but in many ways I think Trump is
00:42:27
negotiating on price and I could easily
00:42:29
see an outcome where both Navy ships and
00:42:32
commercial ships that are American pay
00:42:35
much much lower rates number one and
00:42:37
number two critically that we get China
00:42:39
the hell out of the canal and and that
00:42:41
if we accomplish those two that would be
00:42:44
a massive improvement from us interest
00:42:46
have you um I'm sure you've been paying
00:42:48
attention uh beyond the things that
00:42:50
you've been a part of the confirmation
00:42:52
hearings can you give us the sort of
00:42:54
blowby blow of where you think things
00:42:55
have gone well where there was room for
00:42:57
improvement whether there's going to be
00:42:59
some spotty weather ahead look I've been
00:43:02
really happy so far um I think the array
00:43:06
of cabinet nominees has been very very
00:43:08
strong were there a couple that were you
00:43:10
thought going in we have to this one
00:43:12
will be a little bit harder than the
00:43:13
other and well look clearly the most
00:43:15
bumpy was Matt Gates and and they
00:43:16
withdrew Matt Gates yeah um he was not
00:43:18
going to get confirmed there there were
00:43:20
multiple Republican Senators who were
00:43:21
going to vote now right um but I will
00:43:24
say I mean they withdrew that nomination
00:43:26
pretty quickly was strategic they sent
00:43:27
him up the hill to take the first two
00:43:29
and Pam Bondi seems amazing Pam Bondi is
00:43:31
going to be terrific she's going to get
00:43:32
confirmed easily I think right now every
00:43:35
Trump cabinet nominee gets confirmed
00:43:37
that's great um Pete hegi is clearly who
00:43:40
they're shooting at the most um I don't
00:43:43
think they've scored real blood I I did
00:43:45
a whole podcast on the Heth uh
00:43:47
confirmation
00:43:48
hearing where it spoke volumes that the
00:43:51
Democrat virtu virtually all of the
00:43:53
Democrat attacks were personal attacks
00:43:56
based on Anonymous charges typically
00:43:58
with no evidence and with no one coming
00:44:00
forward and putting their name on it and
00:44:03
they had virtually nothing to say about
00:44:04
the job to which he'd been nominated and
00:44:06
what he intends to do as the Secretary
00:44:08
of Defense I I think
00:44:10
that that fundamentally is a flawed
00:44:13
strategy I so I think everyone gets
00:44:15
through right now do you think that
00:44:15
you'll see any Democrat
00:44:18
Senators support any of the candidates
00:44:21
yes um Rubio so Rubio will get 90 votes
00:44:25
he could get north of 95 votes it'll be
00:44:27
a huge bipartisan vote for
00:44:29
Rubio John Radcliffe for CIA he'll get
00:44:32
significant bipartisan votes Shan Duffy
00:44:35
at Transportation he'll get a bunch of
00:44:37
bipartisan votes uh Howard lutnick at
00:44:39
Commerce my guess is he'll get
00:44:41
bipartisan votes although he hasn't had
00:44:42
his hearing yet so we'll see so there
00:44:45
will certainly be some Pam Bondi I think
00:44:47
Pam is terrific Brook Rolland Brook will
00:44:50
get bipartisan votes part of it is all
00:44:52
right let's take Shawn Duffy so I
00:44:54
chaired the confirmation hearing for
00:44:55
Shawn Duffy secretary trans
00:44:57
Transportation it was a Love Fest why
00:45:00
was it a Love Fest because everyone
00:45:03
wants a bridge or a road in their state
00:45:05
so if you're a Democrat you're like wait
00:45:07
you're Santa Claus and you're giving out
00:45:08
hundreds of billions of dollars I want
00:45:10
some and so everyone wants it and so
00:45:13
Brook Rollins at at Department of
00:45:14
Agriculture again everyone wants stuff
00:45:16
for a and farmers in their state so in
00:45:19
that sort of role it's easy for it to be
00:45:21
a Love
00:45:22
Fest Pam Bondi even though she did very
00:45:25
well
00:45:27
I'd be surprised if Democrats vote for
00:45:29
just the nature of attorney general in
00:45:32
this politicized environment my guess is
00:45:35
I think of the committee the D's are
00:45:36
going to vote no but I think Pam will
00:45:39
hold every Republican and so I I think
00:45:41
she she gets through easily Bobby
00:45:43
Senator I think he makes it through I
00:45:45
spent an hour with him it'll be
00:45:47
interesting this is I was talking with
00:45:49
him about this W will any Democrats vote
00:45:51
for him obviously he's been a Democrat
00:45:54
his whole life until like 12 minutes ago
00:45:56
they hate him and they really they do
00:45:58
view him as a Judas for daring to to
00:46:01
change all of us it's still look J K too
00:46:06
you look at like red Dy number three you
00:46:08
look at what what Bobby is doing I'm I
00:46:10
am re what I more change before he's
00:46:13
become AJ secretary the food system is
00:46:15
so screwed like let him cook let's see
00:46:18
what he can do and his willingness to
00:46:21
take on corruption Corruption of of big
00:46:25
pharmaceutical compan get in bed uh with
00:46:28
big government that they perpetuate
00:46:30
their monopolies using government power
00:46:32
so I I talked to Bobby for example about
00:46:34
a bill that I've I've been fighting for
00:46:36
a long time that I call the results act
00:46:38
the results act says that if any
00:46:40
pharmaceutical any medical device is
00:46:42
approved in another major developed
00:46:44
country so approved in Canada or Japan
00:46:46
or the EU that the FDA has 60 days to
00:46:49
approve it here or it's deemed
00:46:50
automatically approved by operation love
00:46:52
it
00:46:53
brilliant I I'm going to fight for I
00:46:56
have been fighting for that but I think
00:46:57
now I'll have an HHS secretary that that
00:46:59
agrees with it and I do think if you
00:47:02
look at these cabinet nominees the most
00:47:05
striking characteristic of virtually all
00:47:07
of them is that they're change agents
00:47:08
that they're going to fundamentally
00:47:10
disruptors and and that's exciting we
00:47:12
need that all right listen your people
00:47:14
have been trying to for 20 minutes but
00:47:18
you know what let the man cook I got to
00:47:21
tell the president our bestie Phil helm
00:47:24
youth every time he sees you comes back
00:47:26
to our game says what a great poker
00:47:28
player what a gentl he drops your name I
00:47:31
can get him on the phone right now I
00:47:32
told him call him right now he never
00:47:34
does it he was 100% right you are
00:47:36
amazing great to have you on the you are
00:47:38
tempting me with poker chips I mean
00:47:40
we're going to get you in a game I know
00:47:41
you don't make it to California much but
00:47:43
when you do come play just so you know
00:47:44
the boots play and we need scotch and a
00:47:46
cigar and and I am perfectly happy happy
00:47:50
maybe we'll go playing often I can't
00:47:51
stand all these gang balls where
00:47:53
everyone's in in tuxedos but but but but
00:47:55
my happy place is sitting around the
00:47:57
poker table man you're going to fation
00:47:59
and good scotch so great to have you and
00:48:01
uh congratulations on the big win and
00:48:03
thank you for your service appreciate it
00:48:04
thank you very much thanks a lot thank
00:48:06
you that was great
