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A View From Above: Jeffrey Pino, Sikorsky Aircraft

March 31, 2010 / 09:32

This episode discusses the helicopter manufacturing industry, focusing on Sakori, the Blackhawk helicopter, and the importance of strategic execution in defense.

The conversation highlights that 85% of sustainable success comes from execution, with a need for improvement in operational and developmental execution within the defense industry. The speaker emphasizes the challenges of cost overruns and program delays.

Additionally, the episode covers the growth of Sakori's commercial business, particularly in response to government missions and international markets. The speaker mentions recent events where helicopters played crucial roles in disaster response.

Expansion into international markets is a key theme, with mentions of new ventures in Poland, India, and the Czech Republic. The speaker discusses the potential for growth in these regions as military budgets stabilize.

Lastly, the episode touches on the Middle East as a significant growth area for Sakori, with recent purchases from various countries and a strong track record of performance in combat.

TL;DR

Sakori discusses helicopter manufacturing, strategic execution, and growth in international markets amid defense industry challenges.

Episode

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oh sakori is the leading uh helicopter
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manufacturer in the world we uh we build
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the iconic Blackhawk helicopter
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Seahawks uh mostly military although we
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have a thriving commercial business and
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then of course all that leads to a a
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pretty good aftermarket business as well
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so vertical lift is our is our primary
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focus well the the theme of the
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conference was strategic execution and I
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and I guess if I had one sentence to sum
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it up from the presentation it was that
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85% of sustainable success is execution
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15% is strategy so the focus was and and
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primar in the defense industry was that
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uh whether it be uh through operational
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execution or more importantly through
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developmental execution that we as an
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industry had to get better at what we do
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because the data is astounding the
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amount of of of months late cost
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overruns program terminations that we're
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seeing in a very constrained DOD budget
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uh cycle has has has got to be a signal
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to us that we've got to get our
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development
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programs uh together and get them out
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the door on time and within the cost
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that the contract
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specified you know there will be 10
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people in here eight will say it's
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negative two will say it's positive and
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I'm lucky enough to say that actually
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we're one of the two that would say
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positive as the as the quadrennial
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defense review that secretary Gates
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conducts says where should we be
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focusing our dollars it's clear that
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asymmetric Warfare I.E nonlinear Warfare
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and Insurgency and terrorism are top of
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the list and the fact of the matter is
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you don't move in that environment
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unless you're in a helicopter it's too
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dangerous on the ground we've all seen
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the videotapes we've all heard of IEDs
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so helicopters help that so we're
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actually seeing I wouldn't say
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tremendously growing I would say solid
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growth but not the kind of trouble I
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would say that some of the other uh
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contractors are in right
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now oh absolutely absolutely if um if
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you go back to Katrina Haiti last year
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Haiti this year the tsunami in Asia a
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couple of years ago if you saw a
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helicopter on your television screen and
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said that's a sakori you would have been
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right over 80% of the time so we're
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seeing we're seeing a lot more of of the
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government using that as a reason to
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keep their quantities in the defense
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department budget but then we're also
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seeing
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historical government missions of that
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kind of life saving and rescue actually
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being contracted out to commercial
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operators so what we're seeing is our
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commercial business is starting to get
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and reap the benefit of the life-saving
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nature of our product as the militaries
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become really focused on milit Ary
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operations many International militaries
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were also doing let's say paramilitary
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quasi military
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missions nobody has the time to not do
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what is in their core so they're
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Contracting that out saves money frees
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up the assets to do the military Mission
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and we're reaping the benefit primarily
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because of the size class of the
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helicopters we build which tend to be on
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the larger
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size we had we had a great series of
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events as as we were tripling literally
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our revenues over the last couple of
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years our facilities in Connecticut
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could not you know contain that kind of
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growth so we had the great opportunity
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to maintain a solid professional
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Workforce in Connecticut and then move a
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lot of this needed capacity to lower
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cost sources we found a tremendous
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opportunity in Poland with a factory
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that used to build a me aircraft fighter
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a day a Russian fighter a day was
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basically idle so we moved in with an
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opportunity to replace that work with
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good solid uh helicopter work government
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supported we purchased and they're
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turning out product that we can put into
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the government supply chain as well so
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uh we've put about 3/4 of the extra
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hours that we've been adding I've all
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been into lower cost sourcing and the
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majority of that internationally we just
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announced a a
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major uh joint venture in India to
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produce structure for our product um we
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have announced more uh work in China for
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some of our commercial products and we
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have a great source in the Czech
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Republic who is our second largest
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supplier by dollar to our entire supply
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chain so I would say Eastern Europe
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we're moving into Asia I think Latin
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America is our next Focus
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I think the biggest challenge will be to
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ensure that as we see the military
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budgets level and probably even slightly
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decline that we've got to replace that
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work and but I think I think the
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natural outcome of of what we do for our
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government is that many countries in the
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world look to see how the United States
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does military paramilitary Mission they
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see the equipment they use and so our
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view of the world is we have to double
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everything except the US government to
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go International military our
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support uh our support business as well
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will increase its capabilities so so I
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think we have a good plan to replace or
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at least amplify the business that the
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US government has for
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us yeah that's an interesting question
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and I'll answer that I'll answer it a
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lot differently the in the Chinese
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market we are absolutely banned from any
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military activity or any dual use
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activity so strictly commercial in China
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it will be very big and we will be there
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but for our particular product set India
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has got probably the largest single
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let's say medium-term to long-term
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potential so India will be a huge player
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in terms of the quantity of government
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and Commercial helicopters that they
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need as they start to become a dominant
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world power as a percent of
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GDP uh and you know the Indian GDP is
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quadrupling every 10 years as a percent
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88.5% is three times what our government
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spends as a percent of of GDP so uh and
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again given the nature of the threat
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it's not we're going to line two big
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armies up and clash it's
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Insurgency it's small operations it's
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counterterrorism and then of course is
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is sadly uh is good for us uh if you
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look at South Korea as an example and
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even Taiwan they virtual mirrors of the
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US military structure including
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equipment and so that really helps us
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and gives us some some room to continue
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our top and bottom line growth right now
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the Middle East is the largest growth
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area in our portfolio outside the United
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States uh you know they're right there
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the thread is there but our product is
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there and they watch our helicopters go
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out and back every day uh we're very
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proud of the fact that we have a million
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combat flight hours in our products a
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million combat flight hours and not one
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material or workmanship defect and
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everybody sees that and so uh whether it
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be the United Arab Emirates who have
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announced recent purchases Bahrain has
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announced recent purchases Saudi Arabia
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has announced recent purchases so
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shortterm to midterm that's the growth
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area for
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us
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percent of production
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overseas is is is still pretty small
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probably on the on the 10 to 20% scale
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uh I see it I see it growing uh the
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quality of the workmanship is good the
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barriers in terms of logistics and
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Licensing are being ameliorated by some
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favorable reactions of our country to
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others and what we're finding is when
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countries want to buy
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major fleets of of of product they don't
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just want to buy it they want to build
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it they want the jobs they want the
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technology they want the intellectual
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property and so you can carefully
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provide that and will increase the
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production that's done overseas as we
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move forward without a
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doubt

Episode Highlights

  • Sustainable Success
    85% of sustainable success is execution, emphasizing the importance of operational effectiveness.
    “85% of sustainable success is execution.”
    @ 00m 46s
    March 31, 2010
  • Helicopters in Warfare
    In dangerous environments, helicopters are essential for movement and safety.
    “You don’t move in that environment unless you’re in a helicopter.”
    @ 02m 10s
    March 31, 2010
  • Government Demand
    The government is increasingly relying on helicopters for defense and rescue missions.
    “We’re seeing a lot more of the government using that as a reason to keep their quantities.”
    @ 03m 00s
    March 31, 2010
  • Combat Flight Reliability
    With a million combat flight hours, their helicopters have zero defects, showcasing reliability.
    “We’re proud of the fact that we have a million combat flight hours and not one material or workmanship defect.”
    @ 08m 04s
    March 31, 2010

Episode Quotes

  • 85% of sustainable success is execution.
    A View From Above: Jeffrey Pino, Sikorsky Aircraft
  • You don’t move in that environment unless you’re in a helicopter.
    A View From Above: Jeffrey Pino, Sikorsky Aircraft

Key Moments

  • Execution Focus00:46
  • Helicopter Necessity02:10
  • Government Contracts03:00
  • Combat Reliability08:04

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