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[Music] looking good I you know we have guests
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you do this you I was shocked that you guys you and Pete have done 628 episodes
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just the fortitude of that is that true not many that's what it said episode 628
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yeah I haven't uh haven't made a dime it's coming our guys tell us it's
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coming right around the corner just got patience man I mean you know oh you got into this for
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money I I actually didn't and we just started doing basically a phone call uh
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he lives in fonia I live in Los Angeles we're like you know what we have such a great time talking to one another let's
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just record it and we'll put it out there as a podcast and we we did it once a week for now going on 12 years and uh
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you know we we just have fun doing it it's not it's not obvious wait a minute do do you read ads do you read ads yeah
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now you yeah still making nothing I mean we got you got Master Class you got what do you
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got you got do do you guys got Zach we've been there we dated for a while
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then we broke up we got we had a we sort of just they go n right Blue Nile is our
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biggest one yeah Blue Nile is good that's a big one we got diamonds M yeah so you got the original wife original
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wife meaning pre I never even heard of this situation I my wife's so attractive
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that people thought she'd be the second wife after I got some Fame and money I
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go no original wife like oh okay but you had done one special but you weren't
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Sebastian at that point right you met 2009 yeah yeah we went in 2009 uh I had
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I was just coming off actually uh yeah I was just coming off a special two years earlier and then
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yeah just you know knocking around comedy clubs she would come with me Addison Belt Line Road and improv and
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you know it was uh we kind of came up together in the comedy world uh obviously I was doing comedy prior to
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meeting her but like you know when I started making a living doing it she was kind of right there with me let me ask
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you this this is usually the evolution of a girlf might become a wife but okay early on she's up close maybe not the
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first row but right up there little few weeks later she's HT a lot she's in the middle of the crowd kind of hanging out
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then she's sort of standing in the back eventually she's in the dressing room for most of the show and asking you how
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it went and then she stops coming that's everyone I know that's
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every single they're really excited then they see how the rabbit gets out of the hat and they're going oh I see all these
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but anyway no you're right it's just it's a basic Evolution out of the building uh yeah call me after what
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about did you say Addison Improv is that Dallas yeah that's Dallas yeah and it's right by a freeway is that what you're
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talking about yeah it's right it's it's the most populated um restaurants per
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square mile I think in the country on Belt Line Road in Dallas y I've played that Dallas I I played the old Dallas
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improv that was on Central and Walnut and then they opened Addison that's how old I am and then I started playing that
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one and uh okay wait a minute I Dan Dana go ahead spellbinders in Houston
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anyone Bill Hicks was my Dandy little opener no I was I was temperamental in
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those days I got a hold of his collar and said you ain't going nowhere kid oh good I lost it no he was brilliant
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brilliant then all to the way so I there's another stat of yours I just have to ask you because it's
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extraordinary extra from from where you are now the math that I did on your Wikipedia page says you were still
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waitering potentially at age 32 yeah uh I okay that's extraordinary I
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was waiting tables yeah around 31 I quit the Four Seasons Hotel right here in
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Beverly Hill so I I was there for seven years in the windows Lounge delivering chicken Sates to every celebrity in town
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I love it love it I uh I would do comedy during my braak I would run to the The Comedy Store do a
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set and come back fre up my table so yeah I I was uh early 30s and drink
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don't you think I mean you know when you make it and then you went on and then you you're at this Apex I mean it's
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extraordinary welld deserved too so you don't you think it's better to make it later I mean are you still kind of used
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to it it's only been about 12 years since you went super Supernova I guess
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in the context of your life it's still kind of new in a way or are you kind of climatized to the numbers yeah what what
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arena what how big is the arena it's arena side come on Sebastian go ahead no
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uh you know I I'm glad it kind of all happened the way it happened um I just
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you know lot I I had a slow burn you know I didn't get a TV show or a movie
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or anything like that that kind of catapulted me into standup comedy in a way where I could draw a crowd so I just
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did it you know kind of slow burn and uh yeah I mean listen I I I grew up in a
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working class middle middle class family and uh you know we've always kind of had
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to work you know my my dad always says the Mana scalco family nothing comes easy we always got to kind of be patient
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put our time in did he actually say the Manos because I can't imagine my dad saying the cavies will always I mean
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that's just very Italian or Sicilian or something right yeah it's it's very it's very uh it's very Sicilian like um we
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always got to you know wait our turn basically no one bumps us to the the head of the line you know we're uh I I
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still have that type of career too though I mean I have a fan base obviously they come and see me but like
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for example I went to the Bulls game uh in my hometown of Chicago last week right Simone B sitting there with her
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husband Jonathan Owens and you know they put you up on the on the Jumbotron so
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they tell me we're putting some M biles up right she goes up there you would have thought Michael Jordan walked in oh
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my God you got to follow her and then me who I I just I'm doing two sellout shows
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the the Friday and Saturday right after that I didn't even though they announced my name it was almost as if a guy came
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out to shoot free throws during that's the response I got in my
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hometown so it's like I'm still like just On The Fringe of
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like quote unquote celebrity or fame yeah you know there's fun things there's
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there's interesting facts that uh like Dana has probably been more famous in his life than he hasn't been so that's
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that's probably a weird feeling because you always remember more that you weren't but he's had such a run and then
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Arty Lang who I think you guys all know Arty Lang told me the weirdest he felt was when he made more than his dad it
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was such a weird feeling for him him that what he does which is so feeling so
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trivial and then he goes wow my dad's such a [ __ ] hard worker and he goes I honestly had to go to therapy I didn't
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know how to deal with that isn't that crazy but I I I get it my dad was a high school teacher so Sebastian your dad was
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he somebody making six figures or 50k
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or yeah he's a he's a hair he owned hair salon so he was a hairdresser but you know never you know never had a a
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franchise of hair just a few throughout his career not not making a a fantastic living but not you
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know we we went on one vacation we had two cars we lived in a nice home never struggled for money but yeah I think it
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is kind of weird to get used to I never really even thought about making more
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than my father that never really even crossed my mind as far as like it's it's never been like you're making more money
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it the relationship is such is like that that he's the star right sure and and
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I'm I'm hanging on to his Co that's but also I grew up not knowing you know my dad was kind of in and out of my life
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but never even knew how much anybody made it didn't even cross your mind you just you know you had a place to live
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hopefully and some food and but I didn't know numbers I didn't know who knew yeah
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you know so you just that's your dad and he's the main guy in your life because he's your dad but it's a weird feeling
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to get I mean I there's times I feel obviously overpaid for things and you go
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just a weird you never get you never get used to it I don't care I mean cuz I had the same kind of thing five kids high school you know two day old baked goods
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not one day but two day my mom would go Old County Road never had a new car but
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we were we were super happy man we got a colored TV in 1965 we had an antenna we couldn't really see anything but it was
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colorful anten but I think I asked my wife and I don't know who you would ask
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but I always once in a while I'll ask her in 1979 when I met her I was in
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colleges trying to do the open mics Rob Williams was creeping around making everyone feel like why am I even doing
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this and I said did I ever say I wanted to be rich and famous ever nope no that
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was never the goal it was to become an a middle act the goal and then to become a
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headliner I was just middle so yeah David yeah go ahead speak to that I
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don't think that I don't think the the people that have talent and and are in this just for the sheer joy of making
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people laugh are ever looking for fame and fortune in in that way I mean
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obviously there's some outliers but you know in a day and age now where everybody wants to be famous for I I
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don't know what I mean you know I feel like we're kind of like The Last of the Mohicans in the sense of we're we
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actually had a work going to the club working on the ad act the timing the
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Nuance the heckling or whatever it is but now apparently you turned your camera on and you eat a meatball and
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you'd say you tell people how good it is and all of a sudden you know you're uh you're just as famous as the guy that's
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so demoralizing for the young people because I talked to some Talent managers a while back and I asked them does
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Talent matter and they said no no they think in a long career it does but no no
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no no there's a kid who open he's handsome he opens up jars of pickles he does seven figures so what do you do
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with that the impressing if your kid goes oh my God the the guy that drinks
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pickle juice follows you that's like the biggest victory of your life you're like everyone was good when I grew up Don
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Rickles was good Carson was good Frank sonant I mean all great but yeah that
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that's so distortive so uh I don't want to go to my go ahead one second you
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since you've been around entertainment for quite some time have you guys ever run across a Sinatra do you have like a
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Sinatra story did he ever come in I have a I have a weird one it's a little dark
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but so it's night this is a cigar metap sit no it's you're not going to see
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what's coming so it's 1998 and I'm getting a stent in my artery at Cedar SI
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which you know it happens I'm fine don't worry so I'm there I'm just in the you
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know I'm on the ward in my room reading a magazine and and there's this hubbub bubb and uh hey what's going on out
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there he goes Sinatra just checked in you know and uh they put him in the room
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next to me and so I was just listening I heard under my breath no he didn't wi but anyway he
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passed away that night uh it was May 8th or 10th 1998 not in my arms but yeah in
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my arms did you go in there and cuddle him uh I wanted to man I I I became an
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army issue hyper fan at AG 40 before that I didn't get it and then when I got it I really got it you know but I did
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ask the cardiologist there world class I go what was what was Frank anatra like as a patient and they were Indian
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they're brilant they're still friends of mine they go oh he was he was it was very tough you know because you give
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them the thing to blow in and see what your lungs are hey get back doc you get I'm going to blow this further than
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anybody's ever blown these bubbles in the [ __ ] life you know so I don't know do you have a snotch story David
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are you Sebastian that's mine no no I never I never ran across them was your
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dad a super fanali or no I mean I mean we listened to him but it wasn't like you know uh
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you know we didn't have a picture of them on the wall at the house it was uh
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he he was he was you know played on Saturday mornings while I was doing uh vacuuming I remember uh I had to do
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chores on Saturday my mother would play them around the house but uh yeah I don't know I just find them fascinating
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like I just I don't know like the the old school type of it's fun well the Rat
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Pack at the Sands the live album is Is Magical you know and John
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Lovitz told me John litz hello plays it in before he goes on every night when he
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does clubs he plays that to get that Vibe of Sinatra and Dean Martin and that
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that the coolness of that but can I ask you a question because I'm just sort of curious just to put a picture on your
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childhood you know working class how many siblings did you have I have a sister younger
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about five years and so what were I like asking people these questions TV show or movie that floated
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your boat as you know in the formative years 8 10 11 12 toy or bicycle you had
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that you'll never forget or musical act that you blew your mind coming up you
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have five seconds it was uh thre company was my compy
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my John Ritter is Magic did you ever meet John Ritter never met John Ritter but heavily influenced uh by my physical
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comedy with John Ritter uh a bike or did you say a a a
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toy toy He-Man I grew up in the
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He-man not Stretch Armstrong not stretch He-Man was a big a big He-Man doll I I
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used to play football like with my He-Man doll so it was
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like we might have gone too far He-Man for five
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yards and then uh an Entertainer would would be Michael Jackson growing up was
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was my vibe can I tell you my Michael Jackson story dang is it the holiday in
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yeah I worked at the holiday in and I was a bus boy waiter and the Jackson 5
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came in and I would go and and wait on them you know there was Tito and Marlin
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and I I went in Michael's room before the show he ordered raw carrots and
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Janet I believe as a little girl was jumping up and down on the bed and he would sit and look at the mirror in the
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room i' give him the raw carrots and I felt bad later on because I know I said you're a good-look kid but you could
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maybe do a little something and I backed off and left D that set off a whole
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thing with him I know but I did wait on uh because we were near the circle start
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theater up in the Bay Area it was a 3,000 in the round so I waited on Richard prior George Carlin Rich Little
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I did room service to Little Richard he answers this door completely naked God
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and anyway that's that that part that's another podcast can I ask you a little bit about um your your
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process yeah because once in a while I'd sit down on Netflix and I'd watch specials okay and
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I usually last 15 minutes with David well I like I said I last about 15
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minutes David I go longer but so I'm going through I never I didn't know a
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thing about you never saw you and it was the one with the um Subway
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sandwich in the cinabun and I watched it all the way through and I said holy [ __ ] this is new
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this is familiar but completely brand new it kind of I me have gotten this from people over the years right when
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they first because the physicality and the musicality together was so potent to
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me and the physicality is it's not just all this it's also just send Bond into
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your head I mean it's like and then the rhythms yeah you know the way you say
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people like you're so exasperated the guy's over by the pool clip in his to
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Nails I mean it's so Hypno and I love it and I recommended that
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special and others to our business manager loves you and two things one so
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then I went I said I showed you to my kids I said oh this guy you know Sebastian then I said let's find out
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where he was so I watched you on Craig Ferguson doing standup and it was all
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there but it wasn't 2.0 it wasn't extrapolated but everything was there so
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the confidence leap was huge so You' had people tell you this right I mean it's
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it's so potent no one else is doing that even to this day your style I just I
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just really appreciate it and do you pull muscles do you get hurt on stage because Jim Brewer
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does okay that's all I got to say no it was very very sweet of you I I appreciate the cut I like the way you
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put it uh describing kind of what happens uh up there um physicality and
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musicality yeah I never heard it put that way but um yeah for me as far as uh
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I I I did comedy so much just to just to get good at it and familiar and you know
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talk about the confidence you know I noticed when I started moving a lot people like enjoyed that and it was a
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bit of a surprise because maybe you wouldn't suspect it coming from a guy
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like I was just kind of up there I was kind of dressed nice and then I would do a whatever and then I like wow I'm
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getting some response here with the movement and then I guess what happens in standup comedy you just become uh you
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try to get as comfortable as you are just talking like with your family so
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that's kind of how I equated it to because they would look at me on stage and go you're much funny when you talk
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to us you know well and I was like well you know I got to get used to this it's something that it's very new to me and
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uh and yeah for me it's just basically storytelling and the ACT outs are are
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kind of uh just they're they're not practiced it's just like I'm going to go to The Comedy Store tonight and I'm
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going to tell a story that happened to me and how I tell the story happens to come with a a head Bob or that Mo just
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being shocked the one I I don't know which special it was but people just randomly ringing the doorbell the act
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out on that was just huge I mean you were going in different rooms lying down it was like a whole military operation
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so I call it funny with the sound off and there's nothing more potent than if you look at I Love Lucy or Peter sers
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where there's first of all there's not one joke in your act verbally but also that the ACT outs allow the audience to
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laugh crazy hard because they're not they don't have to listen right at that moment so then they're free and so I I
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just it's a style that I just love it I think it's kind of a style that when I saw it at the store I think I first saw
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it uh Sebastian just leaving you know you do a set and you're leaving and I go he was next so I just sat in the back or
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I just walked in one night and before I went on just who's on I don't know everybody here and uh same thing Dana I
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just thought it was very different and I think it's kind of like maybe you're saying his standup in
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the old days was sort of uh in a weird way Acappella and now you're adding
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strings and different things to it because movements and different things are taking like a bit that's funny and
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it's getting funnier there's little layers to it now so you're not so you have a bit that's already funny and now
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you're putting different stuff to it now it's elevating and now that's your whole style there's more going on in each bit
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than a regular standup I would say that's what I I I I drawn to the same
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stuff it was already funny and then he surprised us with some moves I think I it was the Uber bit and there was the
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one about about when that was just funny to me and then and then when I see I see
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you know it got into this other thing that we can get into where I just did a special and this is more what this podcast is about um I did a special and
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so and what's the name of it when does it come we don't know yet okay but the thing about it is and Sebastian's done a
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lot of these and the idea of do you start from scratch and do a whole new hour or do
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you do a mixed bag uh so for me I just shot my special
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last week and I'm still on tour so that will come out after I uh after done with
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the tour so I'd like to give the crowd a new experience if
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I'm going to go on tour again I mean I think there's some uh some material that people enjoy that they want to hear
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right um and I might throw a few of the older ones in but I like to you know I I
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don't know it's hard with comedians I mean I'm sure you guys run into it The Impressions that you do people want to
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see The Impressions or people want to see the they yeah and you're like all
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right you know I'll give you that but like the hits here's what what do you got where's the brides groomsmen or
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whatever that one where they come down and rehearse that one I always thought was funny because when I see you
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sometimes I go oh I don't know what's coming out you know and I if I told my
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buddy oh there's an Uber bit there's this bit so those kind of things happen with me too they go oh I came to see you
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and you didn't do and I'm like I know I actually like to mix in some of my favorites and then of of course do new
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stuff and then there's that feeling of that was in the special do I do it when I go out again I
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don't know it's it's back and forth well here you guys uh a little bit older than me you you you didn't have like you when
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you did when you did something on TV or you did that just lived on TV it's not
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like you went and go and like pulled that clip back up again of uh the SNL
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sketch that you guys did it's like if you missed it you missed it yeah PR much and now it's
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all out there for everybody to see so you do a special and it's like I didn't
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even I didn't have cable gr up so I didn't even see the damn HBO specials and and
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and and when I it was like catching a unicorn but now it's like you do you do
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a special they cut it up it's all on Clips on on internet and then people come out and go all right well yeah we
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saw that what are we paying you know $55 ticket the big thing when I saw that
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already on on YouTube so it's a challenge I think for comedians to kind of come up with equal to or greater than
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material that they have done previously that's the
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challenge ticket prices are a trip right CU I was said oh you know I'm just
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trying to warm up so I'll play this casino in Orville and then I see the tickets are like1
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95 I got notes on stage I I'm working my old characters
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it's a little bit like guys i' I'd rather take a little less and not feel that [ __ ] pressure am I gonna give
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you 195 bucks wor the comedy but I will observe one thing about you because you don't have any punchlines it's a little
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bit like with me chop and broccoli people still I don't know if you've heard of it but it's this goofy song and
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there was no joke in it and so your bits have no joke so it's like Monte python
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or something The rhythms and the physicality you you probably would enjoy some of your stuff more the second time
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so I can see while you go okay I'm goingon to do this bit maybe do an encore you know bill um rean Brian Regan
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had to do that because he had some bits that were just so people just wanted to hear him and even before Twitter and Tik
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Tok yeah not with surprise punchlines those kind of burn out those guys who do
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that style that's hard but anyway you go ahead I think you're right sometimes
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it's just the way people do it like the Cho and broccoli everybody could watch that over and over again I I did have a
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question on the Cho and broccoli when you went chop you did a you did a chop and broccoli is that was that all in the
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moment there or was that like planned i' done it in the clubs I think the first
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time I did it was at the Improv on Melrose and that piano at midnight started it there so I was in the clubs
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for probably a couple years so that was just a a good representation but there's no way I'm knowing when I'm going to go
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you know but I knew I was going to escalate it but I didn't know it would happen right at that moment you know it's probably the way you work you know
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you and me you know no but it's uh yeah you you you kind of have an outline but you're not
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totally sure I know it's cold as eyes paradise and the feeling was so nice he's the lady I know if I didn't know
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her she'd be the lady I didn't know you know and then we get in my lady went downtown she bought some broccoli and
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then there there I'm off once I get to chop broccoli then Anything Could Happen chop in the clubs I'll do it for 10
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minutes with a guitar yeah or when you did an SNL I I've seen it but I watched
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it for the first time a week ago did it kill or was it one of those ones that like cone heads that doesn't do that
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well and then they do it again then it kills because they they're onto it you know what I mean they're like oh it takes them CU sometimes those are just
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like weird bits and then they stick with everybody and everyone's like oh [ __ ] that's great and you go you know it
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never killed because it's so new they have they don't even get it right away it did build I mean the character I had
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to call it a character I used to do it just as myself I'd set it up as rock stars losing
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inspiration um but Derek Stevens and then it sort of built after time but it
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did well it was at the end of my first show but then I wrote a sketch later where Derek Stevens goes to his record
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company and they tell him that he has to die because they look at the record sales of Hendrick and Jim Morrison that
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kind of killed the character you know but anyway but back to our
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guest did you guys on SNL I mean I do you look at other casts after you guys
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have left and said oh you know do compare like oh when we were there it
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was the hey day or how do you guys like judge the show after you been on it is
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something that you D I start with thinking they're all bad and then I go from there no I don't uh
00:28:07
no it's it's we' we've talked about this because we we've talked to different Generations Garrett Morris and Lorraine
00:28:14
Newman and then we go newer cast and it's always about the same situation where some of them are some sketches are
00:28:21
good and some don't work as well and then there's some cast members that kind of pop out and some Flatline and that's
00:28:28
just the way it's always been I think we I was lucky to have good people around me but that wasn't for sure known at the
00:28:36
time it was five years later 10 years later that everyone kind of held up I always think you know what I mean um I
00:28:43
could have some memories of the seven years I had in there that was really went well and everything but when I see
00:28:49
other people like later on like Sher o Terry or if I see Will frell and stuff like okay they're better than I was
00:28:56
that's how I go I go Bill hater okay there I'm not as good as uh Kristen wig
00:29:01
or I couldn't do that I couldn't do I always look at the cast beyond my time
00:29:08
lovingly and with a lot of admiration you know because like I didn't do that you know because it's kind of unlimited
00:29:14
you do what you do and then you leave the show but you know it keeps being reinvented uh I mean how do you I'm just
00:29:21
going to ask you because you didn't have cable and you're in the clubs like who were you who were you looking at
00:29:28
and you you didn't have telephone you didn't have a landline you know but who are you like George Carin George car who
00:29:33
were you looking at to to it was anybody on Johnny Carson so we would stay up and watch Johnny Carson and I would be
00:29:41
fascinated when the comedian would come on back then I think he got like seven or eight minutes uh and I was like just
00:29:47
like oh wow this is this is unbelievable plus back then we would listen to records of Harin or or uh I would I
00:29:55
would see cable my on on Saturday morning went over to my uncle's house to visit and he would tape all the The
00:30:01
Comedians for me to watch so I I that's kind of how I was introduced to standup
00:30:07
was I I think first through through the Tonight Show so how old were you when
00:30:12
you went to your uncle's house to look at the standups watch playb channel this is eight I was like seven eight years
00:30:18
old oh so you got the bug early you kind of yeah yeah I was I was really really fascinated with standup comedy from a
00:30:24
young age I just always thought it was I used to go to comedy clubs when I was 15 not to perform just to watch I had a
00:30:31
fake ID me and my girlfriend would go and there's a little comedy club in Roseman at the time I even forget the
00:30:36
name of it um and we used to sit in the back and I used to sit there and Marvel at the comedian going gee how does he
00:30:43
remember all this exactly I did the same thing yeah and like are they just making this up like right now they seem so
00:30:51
confident so smooth yeah did you see Seinfeld on there I remember seeing Seinfeld I saw
00:30:57
Leno on Carson I saw Jeff Alman uh there's just some that stuck out George Miller remember that was is
00:31:03
that on Letterman Letterman's friend George Miller but that's funny because you see him and that's really it and
00:31:09
then you wait and see someone else on there Rickles was always as a kid was the one who just made me laugh the
00:31:15
hardest cuz over there Che jokes Ed the show started a half hour ago put him in the corner give him a cookie hey get the
00:31:23
prr I mean and you he had his tricks but still he made it feel so spontaneous and yeah so I I really
00:31:31
enjoyed him in the Johnny Carson banter and the back also I liked when the the
00:31:36
the the the talk shows had people on the couch and you would come out and they you would goof around with the the girl
00:31:43
next to you next to you everybody would be like having fun and now it's like you
00:31:48
go out there and it's just you you and the host and it'd be nice to have this the first guest sitting next to you it's
00:31:54
promotion and corporate greed and you know that was just like I mean there's one online there's so many online but
00:32:01
Rickles is just next to Sinatra you know Vinnie Bango called you know he just doing all these fake Italian names and
00:32:09
uh Sinatra was dying but yeah that bygone era can I ask you this uh were
00:32:14
you introverted extroverted in the middle going through grade school you have years where you were kind of the
00:32:20
King of the Hill other years you were dormant shy just shy kid never Class
00:32:26
Clown just quiet polite just observe the the class clown
00:32:32
I I never liked the class clown I always thought not funny sorry Dana no I was
00:32:38
introverted as well but when I was in fourth grade I had a good year I got kind of cocky but fifth grade I went I
00:32:44
went I went dormant no fourth grade some about I was a shoplifter I smoked cigarettes and I fought a lot of kids I
00:32:52
fought I was like and what happened your stock went down the next year I don't know you know that's that's the thing
00:32:57
what I was going to say about confidence you know is there's 99% and then that last 1% is as big as
00:33:05
the is the previous 99 and I think that's where you got to at a given point and so the audience when they sense that
00:33:12
kind of confidence like Dave Chappel when he's up there you know it's just like that's at that high high and you're
00:33:19
there 22 minutes to light his cigarette everyone's like I know and it's SM right you're actually it's funny yeah you're
00:33:24
waiting you're actually when you watch him you you hope that he likes you as an audience member that's how how powerful
00:33:31
he is but when you get to that level of confidence that next next wound down level the audience is so comfortable
00:33:39
they're so relaxed that you have command up there and you got there I don't know
00:33:44
what year it was but you got there and it's fun to watch i' I've seen recent
00:33:50
specials I won't give names of big comics and I was one of them a few years back but their eyes are kind of big and
00:33:56
they're they're dancing for their they're a little sweaty and it's not their best set and you know you want to
00:34:02
feel like the guy's not shooting a special you know you know Sebastian's eyes get big
00:34:09
beat of sweat and it's ain't funny all a sudden go ahead D he's not Afra not afraid to keep keep it silent for a
00:34:14
second you know like I think I think I'm right when you uh oh yeah there's silence in mind I'm scared they're going
00:34:20
to yell I'm scar it's hard to sit there and be quiet and think of the next thing I think Nate Bazi has good crowds where
00:34:26
they wait you know what I mean mean they're well behaved and to get a crowd it's so much more fun to do throwaway
00:34:32
jokes or to take a pause and then to go but if you I get Rowdy sometimes and so I can't leave that much and I think I I
00:34:40
like when someone like Sebastian just stops for a second then he goes on the next thing and you're like I'm in this
00:34:45
so if you're good if you get a good crowd you can do it yeah that's the biggest fear that I I love the silence
00:34:52
it's just you don't know what people are going to say or do or or you know
00:34:58
someone could yell out something because the audience feels sometimes maybe uncomfortable going are we supposed to
00:35:04
talk now or are you do you forget something yeah they want you to keep [ __ ]
00:35:11
going they get uncomfortable they're like maybe this is the time he wants me to yell something
00:35:17
stupid and they're right on Q you know you're in shape as a standup if you're up there and you have a bit and it's
00:35:24
killing and you're just in the back of your head you go oh my God if this is killing I got three stacked right behind
00:35:29
this you know I can really relax now oh yeah you know that's a good place to be
00:35:35
good crowd is great yeah yeah the yeah you gotta be I mean even even sometimes
00:35:41
you feel like I don't know if you guys feel like you're doing a bit maybe it's one of your favorite bits to do but it
00:35:48
doesn't come it comes in the middle you put it in the middle right and then you
00:35:54
feel like after that you're like ah I don't the stuff that I got after this
00:35:59
not going to be as good as what they just saw right no but you get at least for me I get so excited to do that I got
00:36:06
to move it up in the act it keeps me kind of engaged then and then after that for me
00:36:12
I I feel like oh man it's it's a little bit of a let down just to to tell them these these jokes because I know they're
00:36:18
not as good as what I just did so or you know you get a weird crowd not to interrupt you I had this the other night
00:36:25
they they weren't they're either really biting on everything or you go oh
00:36:30
they're not biting on this this is dirty and they're not biting and I'm like uhoh I'm looking at my list going we got some
00:36:36
dirty ones coming up toward the end how do I get around these because why it's so hard on your feet to go I got to move
00:36:43
that up I got to lose that but I still got to do enough time because they are if they're not biting on this one they're not going to like the next I you
00:36:49
can just tell I know get off it get off it it's such a psychological beating up
00:36:55
there you're like don't you find it fascinating that you're saying they're not biting on this
00:37:01
meaning as as as an audience collect a whole group yeah yeah like like they all got together and go listen dirty we're
00:37:08
not laughting at the dirty stuff tonight but it's fascinating for me is like how is it like everybody in the audience is
00:37:16
not on board with this one particular J yep or they don't like the the super dry
00:37:22
stuff like you can just come have little musings that work like I think the other night I go on and I go uh hey don't tell
00:37:28
me what happened in the election I taped it don't tell me who won I taped it and then and then it I got a big laugh next
00:37:35
night I do it they're just staring at me I'm like what happened what happened between last night and tonight uh at
00:37:41
certain point it's too late to do that but for there two three days there and then I go and then I go there's some
00:37:47
throwaways in my ACT they weren't and they're like we're not the throwaway crowd give us the give us the fast balls
00:37:53
I'm like [ __ ] and that's what you realize early on and I go I got an hour I got my problem is if I too early get
00:38:00
too jumpy and I just go out and I go not going to do it I'm [ __ ] cuz that's it
00:38:05
they they they some people leave after that they or if I go party on some half
00:38:10
the Crowd Goes we got it we we heard it if I don't do anything else and then you
00:38:16
do something else they go why are you doing something else why are you talking about anything but the church lady right now I don't understand why so you're
00:38:24
ruining it it's a good problem to have but it's basically a hits review I might as well be at you know the Tropicana and
00:38:31
Laughlin you know little Dennis Miller slipped in oh you go by the way I'll be at the Tropic Canan Laughlin on November
00:38:37
18 19 you got the Sebastian cat on on the Pod today huh that's a todl and Cat
00:38:44
you know out there with the physicality works it works it so U what another
00:38:51
question beside but we're going to get to uh your all your credits movies TV shows in a sec you he's like please get
00:38:57
to my PR person's going nuts when is he going to mention the book when is he
00:39:02
going to do it when is he going to mention the bookie we got a two hour pod I can't do it do you have to stretch
00:39:09
before you go out I mean do you kind of no I do uh early on no but now I I pop
00:39:16
my calf a couple of times on stage of all things which bit was it or what it I
00:39:21
can't do the stealing it was just a pivot move we were squatting I I went to go spr from one side to the other as I
00:39:29
went off my right leg it I'm like wow did did I just break my
00:39:34
leg doesn't take much you have to be at least 30 so after that it doesn't take a
00:39:41
lot you're like what happened was I turn to grab the computer mouse and everyone's like and I go that was it I'm
00:39:47
old enough that my my toes will spasm during a set like they just start going out and getting all rigid and I got to I
00:39:55
go what the [ __ ] that's painful can't put any weight on it so I just go not
00:40:01
going to not going to step over here I'm trying to stir up ticket sales on this
00:40:07
B I want to see you collapse I'm going to your show so did you have to I said
00:40:13
rest it massage it it it was okay yeah I had to mention it to the crowd because it definitely hampered my movement I had
00:40:20
sciatica for two years uh and it really really screwed with my that's wicked
00:40:26
wicked [ __ ] I don't know if you guys have dealt with that do that go down your back your leg or something yeah it goes the side of your leg into your calf
00:40:33
some people get it into their ankle and foot but uh [ __ ] that debilitating I couldn't I couldn't move I you know it's
00:40:40
hard to be funny when you're in like a lot of pain so I had to really uh work
00:40:45
through that it's it's gone now I I did uh Pates to correct that I tried everything no shots I was getting I was
00:40:53
doing pupping massage whatever that was out there I was doing and then I I fell
00:40:59
upon this lree Pilates and all of a sudden two months in wow I'm yeah my
00:41:05
wife had it same same thing Pilates all that kind of stuff could I ask you what's special when you were in massive
00:41:12
pain did you record just that what was the name of that special when you were in paint oh that was the last one isn't
00:41:17
me in the tuo really kid he probably decided not to record this what is your
00:41:24
last one called is it me yeah or I thought it ain't right no it ain't right
00:41:31
is the the tour the tour yeah yeah and then is it me yeah yeah and how would
00:41:37
you what time is it what time is it I'm running out of special name
00:41:42
Sebastian you have one called give it a rest give it a rest mine's called beep bop boop I mean
00:41:50
they go is this a real one I'm like I don't know that's he had a special that even he had a special he named it the
00:41:56
name was so non script that for two years in this podcast neither of us could remember name of his current
00:42:03
special what was the name of it always like either two words or just something kind of cutesy but question aren't you
00:42:09
embarrassed what's wrong with people yeah get your fact straight oh yeah I got sciatica
00:42:22
[Music] it's if you name a special do you have to say the name in the ACT that's a
00:42:29
great question I uh you know people go I'll watch your special and give you a name I'm like you
00:42:35
won't because there's not some running theme of like I was abused by my father the whole special like oh I got one
00:42:41
you're like no it's just all goofy dumb jokes and it makes no sense so I'm going
00:42:47
to have a special name like when I heard Rock named his tambourine and I didn't get it at all but I just liked that it
00:42:53
was different and spelled different than and then he said when you're married sometimes you're the lead sometimes you
00:42:59
play the tambourine and let them shine and I was like oh okay so it has some thought to it you know so I like that
00:43:05
but I liked it anyway because it was just weird and uh and it's always fun to think of a name and then no one really
00:43:10
cares I had one good one and one terrible One the good good one was the '90s I called it critic's Choice with
00:43:17
four stars and I never talked about it on cable TV it would come up on Comedy Central Dana Carvey critic's Choice four
00:43:24
stars my sister would call me and says you got critic's Choice
00:43:29
again then in 2016 I had an Irish nephew from Dublin at Stella Adler in Hollywood
00:43:36
and it was right when wokeness was coming in and they said this and this and this but straight white males need
00:43:42
not apply for some class so he goes man you should name it that you know so I
00:43:48
named him stri straight white male 60 I don't know why cuz some people said that's going of catchy I would click on
00:43:53
that you know and then I'm on the great late Norm McDonald podcast and goes so I
00:43:59
sounded special I mean what was that title about and is it kind of has nothing to do with straight white mail
00:44:04
right and I go no it nothing there's no bit in there about it it's completely just slapped off like you confused Norm
00:44:11
with that one I did I know what do it mean what do it mean where's the bit about that you know I didn't understand
00:44:17
so we all love normal course uh throw in I just threw that in in case people
00:44:23
don't understand that we make fun of nor all the time we love I I love to do him
00:44:28
because I'm visiting with him but uh so the bookie is what your PRP is that why you're on right
00:44:34
now besides besides he's on because he likes he's a big fan no it's
00:44:39
uh um I watched one of the the first episode today it was it's very cool I
00:44:44
mean you had Ray Romano on on it you know and you were in that movie with him somewhere in Queens yeah yeah yeah so
00:44:51
yeah so it's coming out in December our second season uh yeah I mean I the whole
00:44:57
acting thing for me has been a struggle to kind of wrap my head around coming off you know standup comedy and getting
00:45:03
that immediate you know gratification on stage and then all of a sudden you're acting and now it's uh we're going to do
00:45:09
that again we're going to move the cameras and this and that just for me it's like I get like I get impatient
00:45:16
it's like okay come on let's uh it's not really fun is it unless it's documentary
00:45:22
style but if it's like we're coming around you know moving we moving in oh really do
00:45:28
you hate yourself when you start um repeating the way you did a joke over and over on different takes it's makes
00:45:34
me sick to be honest well you know because I keep doing it and they go do it again I'm like it's just it's not
00:45:41
funny and they go now do it again this is the one we're probably going to use I'm like now it's 48 takes in I've been
00:45:47
giving it my all hi hey and then I got to do it again and the people across me are like oh so all that that was all
00:45:54
planned that little throwaway adli I'm like yes you get it now sorry but in
00:46:00
your act you do it once and you keep moving everyone's like oh hey they do the master shot at 8 a.m. right David
00:46:05
they do the bass shot then a second or third Master shot but the time you get to the money shot on you it's like eight
00:46:11
nine hours later you've actually said the words over 200 times it doesn't even sound like English at that point then
00:46:18
the reviews the comedian the impression his struggles with his acting skills no
00:46:24
[ __ ] get put do Larry David with me just shoot everything every second one
00:46:29
time to just bring it back to us um Sebastian we were on a when we did Tommy
00:46:34
Boy Brian Den he came in to play to play Farley's Dad we all love him from [ __ ] true you know first blood or
00:46:40
whatever and so we were all excited so we didn't realize because was our first big movie or any movie that we were Pete
00:46:48
Pete the director who's a great guy we love him but to make sure cuz we were new I think Paramount told him just make
00:46:54
sure you get it so we're doing 15 Masters you know forget about the over the shoulder and then a two shot and
00:47:00
then a over the wide shot and then a loose two closeup so we're doing that's
00:47:06
why we're taking all day and then Brian Den after three takes of the master they
00:47:11
go all right going any he goes what the [ __ ] what what are we doing what are we doing here we got it go move on move on I love we just did three how we're going
00:47:17
to be on this a second at the beginning and a second at the end of the thing what are we doing and I was like are you
00:47:22
allowed to say this what what's going on and then and because you know Farley
00:47:28
gives it 1,0% I give it about 64 and so at the he's just so burned out and
00:47:34
drinking coffee and we're like we haven't even pushed in for the stuff we're going to use so he was sort of
00:47:39
trying to protect us a little bit in a very loud voice I had Robert Loa do that
00:47:45
on a movie oh that's another exct goes up the director gets in his face you're wearing out the actors you wear them the
00:47:52
[ __ ] out and the director's like shriveling down I did Roadhouse yeah I played a piano with Tom Hanks you [ __ ]
00:47:59
face we shot Road House in a day and a half that's Patrick swayy was Brian was
00:48:05
Robert loia in Road House I think he's a bad guy was he lived across the lake anyway back to
00:48:12
Sebastian Sebastian bookie bookie the bookie on Max comes out December what
00:48:18
12th 12th second season I'm sorry 92% on
00:48:25
Rotten Tomatoes excuse me I've never gotten that much
00:48:30
combined farewell 88% farewell 72 no that is a that's a very loving uh
00:48:39
amount to get I have I have a movie on there that's uh 0.5% I think I'm not K
00:48:45
movie they go this one's they go it's good your movie's uh almost fresh and
00:48:50
rot Tomatoes I go am I buying something that's almost fresh I meanes
00:48:56
sucks if that's means you're in the 40s I think they tricked me I go I
00:49:02
that's they go that's good I'm like is it good for me or is it good is it good for society yeah Jesus all right well
00:49:09
Sebastian thank you bud what else can we askk you I uh I appreciate he's a good guy I will see with the store he's a
00:49:16
brilliant standup I think you're an excellent actor by the way I like watching you act and uh and and you
00:49:23
wrote a book I don't know what you haven't done but you know just keep on keeping on if we run into each other
00:49:30
somewhere sometime what would you want me to say to you if a backstage The Comedy Store what would you like me to
00:49:35
say hey Sebastian we just pick it up right before we left off right here we just
00:49:40
just go into the next question and start start about the bookie and then just go from me are you going to run and tell
00:49:46
your wife and kids they said I was really physical and musical yeah no that's going to be at the dinner table
00:49:52
tonight do you know what the they said about daddy you know what they said and you're picking them up holding
00:49:59
them anyway it was so much fun to have you on here and uh yeah thanks for letting us blab but uh yeah keep on
00:50:07
doing and uh just have fun I guess enjoy yourself I mean it's enjoying myself and
00:50:14
it was a pleasure talking to both of you two guys that I kind of grew up watching on TV and uh you know sometimes it's
00:50:21
like you know you got to wrap your head around these things it's like yeah
00:50:27
watching you as a kid now we're doing a podcast together sometimes it's you know plays with your head a little bit going
00:50:34
I told I had it with Martin Short and Steve Martin you know like really you consider me a peer what is this where
00:50:40
we're at now are you crazy you know but uh yeah I totally get that don't ever lose that you know and you're making a
00:50:46
lot of people happy I know that sounds really corny but from where I'm at people [ __ ] need to laugh in life and
00:50:53
so it's a good thing to it's a good stock and trade to do so all right all right guys your holidays and uh thank
00:51:00
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