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All right, this is a fun one. Arnold
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Schwarzenegger. And we went to his sort
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of office space, which is like really
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huge. And he's got all of his uh
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Predator statues and posters. It's a
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very fun place. And um he's he's just
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fun to talk to. I mean, he has a great
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sense of humor and he's just fun.
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Everything about him. And you'll see
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what happens.
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>> Yeah. He likes comedy. The first time I
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think we went to somebody. We didn't
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know how to do it. It was early. We
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>> go to his office. set all this crap up.
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We got on the ground. We goofed around.
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Uh we had some laughs.
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>> And he was just upbeat, lighthearted.
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>> Yeah.
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>> I I thought one of my favorites.
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>> Yeah. And I just wanted to do push-ups
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in front of him. So you you hear that. I
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think we posted a picture. Yeah. And
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he's a he is and always has been the
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most positive, you know.
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>> Yeah. You had good form and the buttocks
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were going up and down and I was looking
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at them and with delight.
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>> I like he goes I have to give it to you
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guys just so puny but you know you don't
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get fat.
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>> How do you say how do you say so lean
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because the whole thing is to be lean
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like a little chihuahua. You don't want
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to be a big bear, you know. So anyway,
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the whole thing is really fun and uh
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Arnold s he's the only one and only
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Arnold Z.
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>> Don't say anything if you don't have any
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positive
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>> so it'll be kind of quiet.
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>> What is this? He's got wires all over.
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>> Let me do your trick.
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>> It's a little tiny.
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>> How long you guys been doing this
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>> this 18 months? 18 months.
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>> Is that right?
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>> Yeah.
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>> And how did you end up together?
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>> We I met him before SNL, believe it or
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not, in the 80s at the clubs and stuff.
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>> 80s? Jesus.
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>> Well, whatever. And then I moved back
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down to LA and we started hanging out
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and then he I had a little podcast I was
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doing. He came on then our manager said,
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"Yeah, you got to do this." So,
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>> yeah. Yeah,
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>> that was it.
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>> Yeah.
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>> But I think it's a great idea because I
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think it creates more energy if you have
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two people kind of back and forth
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>> type of thing. makes it a lot easier.
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>> It's a lot better. Yeah, it makes it go
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quicker. And he's pretty smart. And we
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both know a lot of same people. This guy
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is. And uh
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>> it happens. Sorry, Arnold. You're smart,
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too.
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>> Oh, man.
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>> Let me tell you, I mean, it's it's it's
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really
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>> I think this is the first one that we
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doing with comedians.
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>> That's a fun one.
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>> Am I right?
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>> Yeah.
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>> First podcast. Yeah. Because I mean, you
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guys made me laugh. Let me tell you,
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>> more often than anything, I mean, when I
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>> kind of
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is a comedian,
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>> you know, not as funny as we are.
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>> Yeah. I mean, sort of.
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>> But but I I don't see Conan as much as a
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a comedian.
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>> Well, he's not a standup, but he's
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>> But but in general, because I know him
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more as a host, right,
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>> of a of a very popular kind of a talk
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show, right? I have done his show
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several times as but not as a standup
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comedy and all this but I mean we have
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all known each other
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>> on a personal level
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>> and have had a lot of fun together on
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the personal and then you of course you
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guys came to the White House
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>> you know we're doing the Hansen Franc
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because we had this great American
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workout
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>> which was kind of like a copy of what
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Kennedy used to do in the White House
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because all the other presidents really
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never really capitalized on this idea of
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President's Council on Physical Fitness
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and Sports, right? Created on the
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Eisenhower, but then Kennedy made it
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kind of walk. I did that in school. It
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was when I was in sixth grade. It was
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like 50 push-ups, you know, pull-ups.
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You did all that.
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>> You got a medal when you could do
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certain things. And so what happened is
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is that we had now the the the the
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event, the Great American Workout at the
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South Lawn of the White House. Yes. But
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you don't just want to make it a fitness
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event, right? And make it boring. So we
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wanted to make it hip.
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>> So we asked them, Hans and France had to
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come to the White House and and and
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entertain the people and the kids and
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everybody. And they made everyone laugh
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and how and it was just huge. And it got
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got us also because of them great
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ratings.
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>> Yeah. Good press. And so the all the
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press was there and uh you know there
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were like the big shots from Saturday
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Night Live and Hans in France still
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looking for you know Uncle Arnold and
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all this and we walked around and just
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walk around. Exactly.
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>> Don't undo your belt. You might cause a
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flower.
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>> Yeah. And then flip everyone through the
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air to land in their own baby boo.
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>> That was the that was one of the best.
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That that in your buttocks are like
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marshmallows. You're lucky I don't have
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a campfire here. So they're threatening
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to burn someone.
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>> Hans and France was so funny. It was so
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great when you did it. You didn't meet
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the host, right? You just came on.
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>> Yeah, I was on I was a guest. He invited
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me to come to the show and to be a guest
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there and with Danny Devito one time. I
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was there with Danny Dvito
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twins.
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>> Yeah. And he was like trying to attack
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the audience. You were holding him back.
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>> But we didn't know how you were going to
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react. We started doing it and we heard
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Arnold's coming. Arnold's coming. And
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then they said, "Arnold is waiting down
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the hall. This is an 8H in New York."
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>> So Kevin and I are a little nervous. We
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went in and you're in some chair and you
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lean back and you go, "How do I do the
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accent again, fellas?"
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>> Right.
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>> So then we knew you loved it.
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>> Well, no, but to me it was heaven
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because you have to understand that when
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I first wanted to get into uh acting,
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one of the first things they said was,
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you know, it won't work. No one in
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America has ever made it that had an
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accent. No one could be a leading man or
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anything like this says it's very tough
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to do. People want to hear someone talk
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like John Wayne like Clint Eastwood and
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or Alpuccino this with the guys, you
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know. So anyway, so then
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>> I realized that I had to kind of make
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the accent actually something not to
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hide it but to actually make something
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of it. But then out of nowhere without
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me controlling it, they came along and
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they legitimized it because now there
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was someone that actually took that
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subject of accent. M
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>> and and had a good time with it. Not to
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make fun of it, but to actually
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entertain people with it and to do it
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overboard. And so all of a sudden from
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that point on,
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>> it became much more accepted the whole
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thing. It really became much easier for
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me.
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>> Oh, I didn't even know that.
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>> It's also comedy and you know, you doing
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a lot of action. It's good. Now you're
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involved in comedy. It's just one more
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thing in the comedy field that people
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think of you then it's funny.
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>> And it's also you were in on the joke.
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You were inside the
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having fun. I always had a good sense of
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humor and he always was the first one to
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be able to make fun of myself and of my
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situation, the body, you know, coming
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from Germany, you know, all of this kind
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of stuff. The German accent,
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>> the flav puny arms and the little girly
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man, which girly man was to me was just
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like, you know, gym talk, like you
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little puny arms, you look like a girly
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man. And then when you became governor,
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sometimes you would use that to describe
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the legislators, right? Yeah. Yeah, you
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would use some of it that a bunch of
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girly men perhaps.
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>> Exactly. So we would go out and said,
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you know, that we should sign this bill,
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but you know this the legislators up
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there in Sacramento, they're such girly
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men. They're afraid to do the the hard
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work and all this stuff and they were
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really offended by the whole thing. So I
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actually stopped it, you know, because I
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said I said, you know, I want to work
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with those guys. I didn't I didn't mean
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it in a negative negative way. I just
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wanted to actually
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>> I didn't want to insult them. I actually
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wanted to just entertain the crowd. But
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I was out in the shopping mall and I was
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like saying to the people I said be with
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me you know they vote for this
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initiatives that are coming up in
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November. I said you know I have to take
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it directly to you the initiatives
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because this girly man in Sacramento
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wouldn't go for it. And they were
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laughing you know that day when I went
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back to Sacramento how could you call us
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girly man this is not fair you know for
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you to do I said I'm sorry I I didn't
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want to offend you.
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>> Yeah. To me it was just silly. The New
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York Times called me and tried to get me
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to explain what it meant. And to me, it
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was just two guys lifting weights in a
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gym teasing each other. There was no
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homophobic undertones.
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>> No, not at all. But today, you have to
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be so careful when you say all this
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stuff.
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>> Yeah. You say the baby man, your little
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baby, and then they're like, "Why is
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that against babies?" And
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>> yes, there's a baby man. You what I like
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is we were saying you as a uh politician
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are one of the few that does you were
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putting humor in and it does make people
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listen because you did it before. You
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had nicknames for foes and stuff.
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>> That's right. Exactly. Yeah.
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>> You you came out of the box as a breath
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of fresh air in California like the
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anti-olitician
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telling it like it is. I remember your
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first debate I think was they tax us
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when we go to the bathroom in the
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morning. They tax us when we drive in
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our cars. They t you know it was such a
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>> when you have a cup of coffee they tax
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they tax they tax tax noon at night
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taxing.
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>> Yeah but that made you stand out but um
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anyway so your book I read it
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>> it's called you don't know this but it's
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called be useful seven tools for life.
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>> Yes your ghost
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>> I'm going to read you one chapter
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>> this by the way this is true
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chapter one.
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>> Oh you have the book.
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>> Oh [ __ ] yeah I do. I got questions. I
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got books.
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>> My brother and I, I've got three older
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brothers. We have this thing that we
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used to say for years,
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>> registered girly men.
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>> We would always say, "What would Arnold
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do?" when we're up against any kind of
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challenge or something negative. I'm not
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kidding. What would Arnold do? Because I
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noticed a long long Now, I'm just
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because I'm with you, I'm talking with a
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slight Austin accent the whole time, but
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I'm always thinking, what would Arnold
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do in this situation, which would always
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be positive, always. So, I'm I'm not
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surprised at all you wrote this book.
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book is a lot about positivity
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>> pretty much overall.
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>> Yeah. It's it's it's about
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how to how can anybody
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no matter who you are and where you are
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in the world be more successful.
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>> Yeah. And because there's just certain
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things that hold us back and it's simple
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things sometimes like the fear of
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failure uh or picking little goals
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rather than big goals and whatever it is
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or listening to the naysayers whatever
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it may be as you say I'm trying to go
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through this in this book and to just
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tell people here there's seven rules I
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could put 15 rules in there but since
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the publisher said that you should have
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no more than 260 pages so we we made it
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we kept it in that kind of a framework.
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But in any case, it's basically just
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simple rules and tools that will help
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people to become more successful and
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more free and more able to kind of like
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go and expand and uh and you know follow
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their dreams and how do you create a
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dream for yourself? How do you create a
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vision for yourself in order? So that's
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what I get into in the book.
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>> I think lately there's there's sort of a
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victim card being played too much and uh
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it's nice to have refreshing old school.
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There's a chapter work your ass off.
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It's just very basic, but it's not what
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people say out there as much anymore,
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you know.
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>> Yeah. Yeah. But it I talk about exactly
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what I did, you know, when I came over
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to this country, I was into working.
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>> Mhm.
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>> I was not shying away from working. I
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was I say, I'm willing to work. Even
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though I was a Mr. Universe
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several times over and Mr. World
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>> seven
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>> and Mr. Olympia, Mr. Olympia seven times
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over.
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>> Jesus. Not at that point. And then the
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early 70s I was like five times Mr.
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Universe, Mr. World, Mr. International,
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and two times Mr. Olympia.
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>> And there was So now
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>> there was nowhere at the time.
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>> No, it was it was it was kind of like uh
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in bodybuilding there was no money.
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>> We didn't make any money.
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>> It's like Miss America, right?
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>> So it was like one of those crazy things
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that still be had to make a living. So,
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you know, I started a mail order
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business to kind of like sell booklets
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on how to train your biceps and your
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chest and all of those kind of things.
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>> So, with 20 steps doing to do that.
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>> That's right. So, but the the thing is
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still we need to go and let's go out and
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work. So, my friend Franco Columbo the
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bodybuilding champion
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>> remember very well and loved you and him
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together.
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>> That's right. Yeah. Yeah. So he was a he
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was a brick layer,
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>> professional masonry worker, learned it
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in Italy, in Sardinia, then continued
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working in in Germany. That's where I
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met him. And so when he came over here
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and we kind of always trained together,
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I said to Franco, I said, "Franco,
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you're a masonry worker. You're you're a
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brick layer. Why don't we start a brick
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laying business?"
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>> Mhm.
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>> I said, "In America, they love this
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European bullshit." I said, you know, so
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we call it the Italian masonry expert.
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Yeah. Yeah.
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>> And we put a little ad in the LA Times.
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What the next day
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>> after we put this ad in without beyond
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our
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>> knowledge, I mean earthquake happened.
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>> Expectation was the earthquake happened.
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It's 1971.
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This explosions
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fall down the patios the walls
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everything. So now we started getting a
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>> It's funny.
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Nothing to do with it.
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But anyway, the next thing I know is we
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get all these phone calls.
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>> Yeah. Can you come out and give me an
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estimate of how to build rebuild my
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chimney and how to rebuild my fireplace?
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How to do my patio? I have a huge crack
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going through the whole patio and we
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cannot continue like that. Blah blah
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blah. So Frank and I started going out
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and doing estimates and of course we
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were not really experienced in all this
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stuff. So we just started, you know,
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measuring the stuff and then we had
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always arguments uh about, you know, I
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was always kind of like the good guy. He
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was the bad Italian who always charges
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too much and then they I would say this
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is outrageous. Frankly, you cannot
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charge, you know, $7,000, $600 for this
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stuff. We can do it cheaper than that.
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No, no, no, no. And it would be then we
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started in German and in Italian, we
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started arguing. No one understood what
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we were saying. And they just imagine I
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said to the guy I wouldn't say to the
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customer said well I got him down now
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finally so we can do it for $5,000 and
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they say thank you so much and they
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hugged me and then we did the job.
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>> How do you teach street smarts like that
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one is the Italian name in the paper and
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then the collapsing but then this whole
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song and dance I mean that's just like
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street smarts or what would you call
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that idea? But remember that I when I uh
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uh was in in school
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uh I was an apprentice in selling.
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>> Oh.
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>> So so so when I was 15 years old instead
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of going to uh go on to a university
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career or anything I learned to be a
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salesperson and uh so I was kind of an
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apprentice for three years and I learned
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how to sell. So sell, sell, sell. This
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is and I have one of the chapters in the
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book that is in there because I realized
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of how important selling is. So the art
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of selling was in this case was when I
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go to a customer and he says, "Can you
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show, can you tell me how much it costs
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to redo this chimney, uh, it sounds
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better
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>> if you go like you do in the store, 50%
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off?"
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>> Yes. No matter what.
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>> But first they add the 50% and then they
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give you 50% off. So, so, so my idea was
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I said I measured it out and I said to
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Frank, I said, "I think it will cost us
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by the time we buy the material, which
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will be $2,000, our workmanship, it
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would take us a week to do this, $1,500
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each is $3,000. So that's $5,000." So
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then Frankie said, "Yeah, $5,000. We can
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do it." So then I would go to the guy
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and says, "He wants $7,800."
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And the guy would freak out and said,
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"Oh my god, I don't know if I can afford
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this. This is like outrageous." I said,
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"Let me work on it." And so I would go
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to Frank and then all of a sudden we
00:16:00
have the screaming match in the corner.
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And then in Italian and all of this
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stuff and then the next thing is I go
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back to the guy and says I brought him
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down to $5,000. The guy say, "Oh, thank
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God. Thank God." Oh. And they will hug
00:16:18
me and then we get the job, you know. So
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this is it's about so we we gave them a
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good deal but I mean we also kind of
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sold the idea that they got a special
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special deal.
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>> Did you do you do physical work or just
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sort of
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>> Yeah. No, I was the I was the the guy
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that was mixing the cement and the and
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the sand
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>> and the water. So I had I I picked up
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the the the mixer at the construction
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place where you rent construction
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equipment and I picked it up with my
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car. They put it on in the back and they
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just took it to the construction.
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>> You just used blenders to save money
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>> and I just uh Exactly.
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>> Didn't they notice how how pumped up you
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guys were? Did they comment on it? You
00:17:01
comment on the speed and what did you
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say
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the bodybuilders and they said but why
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do you we really didn't want to say that
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we have to work for a living. We just
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said we said look we have two choices.
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>> One of the things is I lost one of the
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Mr. the universe contest because they
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didn't have enough of a tan.
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>> So that's why you're out there.
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>> I said so I said which was in Florida
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which is really true. One of the reasons
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was I didn't have a tan. The other one
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was I was a little bit too chubby. I
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didn't I wasn't cut enough. Yeah.
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Exactly.
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>> Body free.
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>> So so anyway so I said you know I lost
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my bodybuilding competition because I
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didn't have enough of a tan.
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>> I said that will never ever happen
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again. Right.
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>> I said, "So now, not only am I training
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every day on Muscle Beach down there in
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Venice Beach, you know, the
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weightlifting platform." I said, "But I
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want to work out here." We rip off the
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shirt and we work outside because then
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you get the natural tan all over the
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place. You get brown. I said, "And then
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this way how we can win." So this is why
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we work a few hours every day in the
00:18:01
sun,
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>> right? You give me a lot.
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>> This was one of the This was one of the
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rap. I said, "He happens to be a brick
00:18:06
layer, an outstanding brick layer from
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Italy. He did all the special masonry
00:18:11
work. He even worked in the Vatican. And
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the work was good. Basically built the
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Vatican.
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>> So I don't want to jump ahead here, but
00:18:21
then it's the biggest selling point you
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did and how did you apply this to
00:18:25
selling yourself to Hollywood, not
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wanting to play the second or third
00:18:30
lead, but starting at movie star?
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>> Yeah. Did he not did you not do any uh
00:18:35
what most people do? Small part. Small
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part. Are you right?
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>> No. I I did, but my goal was Oh.
00:18:41
>> to be a leading man.
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>> Yeah.
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>> So, uh I remember for instance, Lucio
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Ball will call me.
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>> Jeez.
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>> And uh I was at Gorge Gym working out
00:18:52
>> and she saw me on the B Griffin show.
00:18:54
>> Arnold.
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>> And she said she she called me
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>> Arnold. Oh, this is Lucy. That's right.
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A little bit of smoking. Yeah.
00:19:00
>> That's right. And and so she says, "Uh,
00:19:03
I saw you on the M Griffin show. I want
00:19:06
you to come in and read for this part uh
00:19:09
Joe Sander uh which is uh a massur from
00:19:15
Italy. There's an Italian accent, but
00:19:17
most people don't know the difference
00:19:18
between a German accent, Italian accent,
00:19:20
blah blah blah. Come on in and read.
00:19:23
>> And so I would go in there and I would
00:19:25
say, "Oh my god, this is a TV show with
00:19:27
Art Connie, Lucio Ball. Art Connie just
00:19:30
won the Academy Awards and and all that
00:19:32
stuff." So this is like really big. So I
00:19:34
went in there and um she opened up the
00:19:37
script and said they read this part but
00:19:40
I had no idea what that means. So I I so
00:19:43
she says she says well I need I need to
00:19:45
come in and you know my back hurts and
00:19:48
says u how do you know how to massage?
00:19:50
And I said my name is Joe Sandow
00:19:54
and I am from Italy.
00:19:57
I'm a truck driver from Italy. And in
00:20:00
Italy, every truck driver also does
00:20:05
massages. And she says, "Oh, way
00:20:08
>> you went to my
00:20:09
>> Let's go and take the script away."
00:20:12
>> Yeah. No script.
00:20:13
>> I say, "The idea of it is this blah
00:20:15
blah." So, she explained to me the idea
00:20:17
and then she asked me some questions,
00:20:20
right? And then I would just say, "Yeah,
00:20:21
yeah, I'm from Italy. I'm a truck driver
00:20:24
and my name is Josando." And of course
00:20:26
in Italy everyone does this massages and
00:20:28
then she was like laughing and everyone
00:20:30
else was laughing and then she says you
00:20:32
see guys I told you I told you he will
00:20:34
be good. I mean you know he's not used
00:20:36
to the script idea and the reading idea
00:20:37
but I mean he can by the time we shoot
00:20:39
this next Friday he will be perfect. I
00:20:42
promise you guys that and you are you
00:20:44
here ready to be here every day for
00:20:46
rehearsal and I
00:20:49
>> I didn't even know what the rehearsal
00:20:50
meant but any case but the b I said yeah
00:20:52
yeah whatever you want me to do I do.
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And so I came every day. I worked with
00:20:57
her every day. She was very patient
00:20:59
patient. And uh we shot then on Friday
00:21:04
and she kept saying he says and you need
00:21:06
to project more. You need to project
00:21:07
more because we're shooting live.
00:21:09
>> So I had no idea what life live meant. I
00:21:11
had no idea any of that meant. So
00:21:14
anyway,
00:21:15
>> we rehearsed and we rehearsed and then
00:21:17
we shot this scene
00:21:19
>> that I'm ringing the doorbell. The green
00:21:23
light lights up at the door and I open
00:21:26
the door. She opens up the door and she
00:21:28
says, "You are the mass?" And I say,
00:21:30
"Yeah, I'm the mass." Uh, you know, she
00:21:32
says, "Come on in." And so I go in there
00:21:35
and all of a sudden huge applause.
00:21:38
>> Oh my god. You don't know that there's
00:21:40
people.
00:21:40
>> So now I'm standing with my massage
00:21:42
table and I'm looking out like this,
00:21:44
staring out. I'm in shock. I'm frozen.
00:21:47
>> First time you frozen. So this is not
00:21:50
what the scene is supposed to be to be
00:21:51
frozen to come in there and to be like
00:21:53
this Italian flamboyant guy that opens
00:21:56
up the massage table professionally.
00:21:58
Chuck chuck chuck ch boom flips it open
00:22:00
and say lie down, you know. So I'm not
00:22:03
standing there like this, you know,
00:22:04
totally frozen. And then she says, "What
00:22:07
are you massaging me? Get the table set
00:22:09
up." So she immediately saw what was
00:22:11
happen. Oh yeah, totally. And then so I
00:22:13
said, "Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly."
00:22:14
And the applause continued. So I flipped
00:22:16
the table over. Now, of course, I only
00:22:18
had the tank top on, so I had like the
00:22:20
big guns hanging out and the whole
00:22:22
thing. But anyway, it was it was
00:22:25
fantastic. The whole thing Connie came
00:22:27
in in the middle of the scene. The whole
00:22:29
thing was like a seven minute scene and
00:22:31
it played like a jewel. I remembered all
00:22:33
my lines. She said it was fantastic. And
00:22:35
then I tell you something,
00:22:37
>> from that moment on, Lucia Ball, as long
00:22:41
as she lived,
00:22:43
she always wrote me a letter. M
00:22:46
>> every movie that I did after that she
00:22:48
saw me on streets of San Francisco to
00:22:50
play a guest starring role which I got
00:22:52
after that two years later she saw Stay
00:22:54
Hungry that came out with Bob Raerson he
00:22:57
directed me Jeff Bridges and Sally
00:22:59
Fields she wrote me a letter I'm so
00:23:01
proud of you you're fantastic I knew you
00:23:04
had this potential you're going to be a
00:23:06
big star I mean what a sweeter of a
00:23:09
woman as tough as she was everyone knows
00:23:11
she was one of the tough toughest women
00:23:13
in town Uh, you know, and Art Connie
00:23:17
could tell you that because she kind of
00:23:18
directed the show even though she was
00:23:20
not the director. And then Gary Morton,
00:23:22
who was her husband, could also tell you
00:23:25
how tough she was studio. I mean, she
00:23:27
did a pilot with Desi Ares Jr. called
00:23:29
Whacked Out. And we're doing the pilot.
00:23:32
>> Audience is there and we're really
00:23:33
bombing. I mean, it's silent. And all of
00:23:36
a sudden, I hear a voice from the
00:23:38
bleachers going, "What's wrong with you
00:23:40
people?" So Lucille Bala grabbed the
00:23:42
microphone and was yelling at the
00:23:43
audience, "This is funny." Then the
00:23:46
whole audience flipped out, made a big
00:23:48
line, and it took an hour and a half for
00:23:50
everyone to get her autograph.
00:23:52
>> That's fantastic.
00:23:53
>> You know, for her to take time to do
00:23:55
that with you is pretty nice because she
00:23:57
could have just said, "Tough reading.
00:23:58
Get out, you know, next." But absolutely
00:24:01
to work with you and to be that big of a
00:24:03
star and and get you going and that was
00:24:05
really probably one of the biggest
00:24:06
things even just confidence wise.
00:24:08
>> Yeah. Yeah. No, but I I as much as
00:24:10
people were negative about the idea of a
00:24:13
muscle guy getting into movies because
00:24:15
they what they felt kind of the 60s the
00:24:18
era of the Hercules movies
00:24:21
receive
00:24:31
movies but I mean for me big because
00:24:34
when I was 15 years old and I saw Steve
00:24:36
Reeves and Rich Park on the screen said,
00:24:38
"Oh my god, can you believe bodybuilders
00:24:41
>> then become leading man in movies?"
00:24:45
So that was my motivation to get into
00:24:47
bodybuilding. I said myself, "Oh, then I
00:24:49
can be an actor." So then then I go to
00:24:51
Hollywood. There's Muscle Beach and
00:24:53
there's Hollywood. So you have your own
00:24:55
fantasies as a kid with 15. So that was
00:24:58
my fantasy and I made my fantasy become
00:25:00
a reality. And I talk about that in the
00:25:02
book, how important it is that we have a
00:25:04
vision and that we have a goal and that
00:25:06
we have something to chase. No matter
00:25:08
how stupid it may sound to other people,
00:25:10
but just don't listen to the naysayers.
00:25:13
Chase your dreams. And that's exactly
00:25:14
what I did.
00:25:15
>> And that part of the book, don't listen,
00:25:17
that seems like a lot of people like I
00:25:19
would get my feelings hurt a lot in the
00:25:21
early days before I got on Saturday
00:25:22
Night Live. If someone if I someone said
00:25:24
I wasn't good or whatever, what are the
00:25:26
mind tricks you played to get around
00:25:28
that? like they're saying you're
00:25:29
terrible, you're nothing, this isn't
00:25:30
going to make it, that's not good. And
00:25:32
you twist it in your mind.
00:25:34
>> You know, I I didn't have to really
00:25:36
twist much because I just saw my vision
00:25:39
very clearly in front of me of me
00:25:42
becoming eventually a Mr. Universe for
00:25:44
me eventually coming to America and
00:25:47
eventually getting into movies. I saw
00:25:48
that and for it was so believable
00:25:52
>> that I had such faith in my vision that
00:25:55
uh there was no one that could talk me
00:25:58
out of it.
00:25:58
>> They just didn't get it in your head.
00:25:59
You're like
00:26:00
>> well I understood
00:26:02
>> that when someone has never done
00:26:03
something it's like you know Nelson
00:26:05
Nelson Mandela always said you know
00:26:07
everything is always impossible until
00:26:09
someone does it and this is exactly
00:26:11
there was no Austrian ever that became
00:26:14
Mr. Universe. So when I say I want to be
00:26:15
Mr. universe. Of course, they laughed,
00:26:17
you know, because they thought, well, if
00:26:19
he says he wants to be a ski champion,
00:26:20
that makes sense. But not to be a Mr.
00:26:23
Universe or to be a weightlifter or
00:26:25
something like this. Weightlifting was
00:26:26
kind of dominated by the Russians.
00:26:28
Bodybuilding was dominated by the
00:26:30
Americans or by the British. So, I mean,
00:26:32
what is he talking about?
00:26:33
>> You beat the odds once in a big way and
00:26:35
now you're going to do it in an even
00:26:36
bigger way to come all the way to
00:26:38
America and know the language. Did you
00:26:40
know the language at all when you got
00:26:41
here? It took you a while. No, I mean
00:26:42
there was a lot of subtle things like I
00:26:44
said when Lucy Paul said we gonna go and
00:26:46
read come over to for a read. I did not
00:26:49
know what that meant. I did not know
00:26:50
when she said we're going to shoot this
00:26:52
live that this means there will be a
00:26:54
live audience and we will be live the
00:26:57
filming and not taping and stuff like
00:26:59
that. So all of this stuff I did not
00:27:01
know but I learned the language quickly.
00:27:03
I went to college. I remember I went to
00:27:05
Santa Monica City College and took
00:27:07
English classes and then eventually took
00:27:09
business classes and uh all the stuff
00:27:11
that I learned as an apprentice selling
00:27:13
marketing, publicity and uh accounting,
00:27:17
mathematics and all of this stuff micro
00:27:20
and microeconomics and all and then then
00:27:22
eventually got a degree in that which
00:27:24
was also not something that I planned on
00:27:26
doing but I was like going part-time to
00:27:28
college
00:27:29
>> uh for eight years.
00:27:31
I mean, think about it. From 1969 to
00:27:34
1977,
00:27:36
>> it was like a I just wanted to educate
00:27:38
myself. Yeah. And I didn't have a
00:27:40
student visa, so I couldn't go full-time
00:27:42
to college. So, I had to always just
00:27:44
take two classes. So, sometimes even to
00:27:47
cheat a little bit, I took two classes
00:27:48
at Santa Monica City College and then at
00:27:51
night I would go with the UCLA and take
00:27:53
some extension courses and then
00:27:55
sometimes I would take classes at West
00:27:57
Los Angeles College and stuff like that.
00:27:58
But eventually I got enough like almost
00:28:01
300 units of credits and then they gave
00:28:03
me a degree.
00:28:03
>> You know it's so easy to quit along the
00:28:05
way in this guy. There's so many hard
00:28:07
obstacles that people just go I can't do
00:28:09
that. I'll forget it.
00:28:11
>> I have a question. Did you when you were
00:28:12
thinking of your vision Mr. Olympia this
00:28:14
and when you envision yourself as a
00:28:16
movie star did you envision Conan the
00:28:18
Barbarian? Did you ever envision twins
00:28:21
and Kindergarten cop? It evolved Conan
00:28:24
the Barbar I mean your physicality John
00:28:26
Wayne. What I envisioned was like just
00:28:28
like you know Re Park and Steve Reeves.
00:28:30
I said myself maybe I can somehow use
00:28:33
the muscles and get in the movies.
00:28:36
>> I did not know that that that there are
00:28:39
errors.
00:28:40
>> Yeah.
00:28:40
>> You know that there was the 60s was the
00:28:42
muscle era where they made all these
00:28:44
muscle movies and stuff like that that
00:28:46
the 70s would be kind of like the
00:28:48
opposite and all of a sudden Wood Moody
00:28:50
Allen and Dustin Hoffars.
00:28:53
No, those guys Exactly.
00:28:55
And so everyone say to me, Arnold, those
00:28:57
guys weigh 100 pounds. We can't put you
00:29:00
in a movie with those guys. It doesn't
00:29:02
work, you know. So, forget about it. So,
00:29:04
it was all that that kind of thing. So,
00:29:07
but eventually I think that after they
00:29:10
did Stay Hungry,
00:29:11
>> Yeah.
00:29:12
>> and I played a bodybuilding champion in
00:29:14
Stay Hungry in the movie and people and
00:29:16
I got the uh the Golden Globe Awards for
00:29:20
best acting debut
00:29:22
>> for that movie. So that really helped
00:29:24
me.
00:29:24
>> Did you improvise those lines though
00:29:25
some of
00:29:26
>> No, there was the the in Stay Hungry was
00:29:29
all written
00:29:30
>> and uh
00:29:31
>> you really you were natural in that
00:29:32
>> and well thank you. And then pumping
00:29:34
iron came out and then then that was a
00:29:37
big hit.
00:29:38
>> Yeah.
00:29:38
>> And so then all of a sudden people
00:29:40
started saying it was pumping on
00:29:41
actually that made Ed Pressman who just
00:29:44
passed away recently famous producer.
00:29:46
Yeah. who saw me in pumping iron and
00:29:49
then got the rights of the Conan
00:29:52
the Conan right
00:29:54
inching over to like more mainstream and
00:29:57
then you're going to get away from only
00:29:59
strongman parts like when I moved here I
00:30:01
got a script the first time I just read
00:30:03
it to them they handed me the script and
00:30:04
I just read it back to them and they're
00:30:05
like what are you doing I'm like I don't
00:30:06
know you know because you know they go
00:30:09
come read it was the same thing I don't
00:30:10
know sides all the lingo I didn't know
00:30:13
and I it was hard for me to get work and
00:30:14
I'm only this strong So, I know it was a
00:30:17
little bit of a detriment.
00:30:18
>> Dave, did you find it tells you
00:30:19
something about yourself? Like me in the
00:30:21
early '8s, I go to audition, I walk in a
00:30:23
room and I see babyfaced guys with weak
00:30:27
chins and little arms,
00:30:29
>> baby men.
00:30:29
>> They all look like me, you know? I mean,
00:30:31
you would walk in reading for something.
00:30:33
Would you see a lot of other big guys
00:30:35
waiting to read?
00:30:36
>> No, I never read again.
00:30:37
>> You never read that? No. No. You never
00:30:40
audition. Wow.
00:30:40
>> No, never. I I swear I I knew that I did
00:30:44
this auditioning. This is not my bag.
00:30:47
>> That's not my bag.
00:30:49
>> But for some reason or the other from
00:30:51
that point on it always they came to me
00:30:53
like Bob Raferson came to me and said, I
00:30:55
want you to do Stay Hungry, but you have
00:30:57
to take acting classes.
00:30:59
>> Yeah. I get you, you know, with this guy
00:31:01
Eric Morris who was an acting coach. He
00:31:03
says he was working with Chuck Nicholson
00:31:06
and blah blah blah. He says, "I want you
00:31:07
to to take acting lessons and then you
00:31:10
will come in for a reading." So I was
00:31:13
like working with this guy for four
00:31:14
months. So you weren't auditioning
00:31:15
>> before I got brains did this as a joke
00:31:18
in a way. And he had did someone tape it
00:31:20
and I came in
00:31:22
>> and I did the scenes for him
00:31:25
>> and uh
00:31:27
>> but it was basically already signed for
00:31:29
the movie, right? So it was not really
00:31:31
that was in danger. But so anyway, I did
00:31:33
I did the scenes and he again was very
00:31:36
very complimentary.
00:31:38
>> But this is the this is the the the
00:31:40
sweetness of people in this town that I
00:31:42
noticed kind of how supportive they can
00:31:45
be. Like Barb immediately says stop it.
00:31:48
>> I said what? He says look at my hair.
00:31:52
Look at my hair on my forearm. So I said
00:31:55
okay I see your hair in the forearm. He
00:31:58
says it's standing up. Do you notice
00:32:00
here in my form when this stands up it
00:32:02
means that I totally bought in a scene.
00:32:05
>> So what you just did I totally bought
00:32:08
in. It was so touching. It was so
00:32:10
emotional. It was so well delivered. We
00:32:12
don't even have to go any further. This
00:32:14
is it. You have the part. Wow.
00:32:15
>> This is how it would would be like that.
00:32:17
And the same was with Jeff Bridges and
00:32:20
been Sally Fields. They know I was a
00:32:21
beginner on this whole thing but oh man
00:32:24
they were so supportive when we did the
00:32:26
scenes. Sally Fields was like
00:32:29
extraordinary and as so was Jeff Bridges
00:32:31
so supportive and everything extra time.
00:32:33
I had I had really a good good
00:32:36
experience and then I think Lanceburg
00:32:38
when he hired me for you know the chain
00:32:41
Mansfield story with Lonnie Anderson
00:32:43
where I played Mickey Hagday you know
00:32:45
because Lonnie uh Chain Mansfield's
00:32:48
husband was a Hungarian guy
00:32:50
>> right so
00:32:51
>> and and and so he was Mr. universe and
00:32:55
uh so I played that character basically
00:32:57
and uh so with an accent it was the
00:32:59
accent was perfect. Then eventually I
00:33:02
got then the Conan uh gig. Yeah. And it
00:33:05
was a big international kind of a movie
00:33:07
with Universal Studios.
00:33:09
>> How much of that did ro like 200 million
00:33:11
or something?
00:33:12
>> No. No. In those days there was no 200
00:33:14
million but I mean it it grossed out I
00:33:15
think780 million.
00:33:19
It was like it was like really it was
00:33:21
big and it was number one at the box
00:33:23
office when it opened up. So everyone
00:33:25
was really happy and they signed me up
00:33:27
for a second one and that's when I was
00:33:30
my first the second Conan was I made the
00:33:32
first million dollars. And how old were
00:33:35
you when you first made that million on
00:33:36
the second Conan movie about like 33 or
00:33:40
34 years old?
00:33:42
>> What did that mean to you coming from
00:33:44
where you came from in Austria to get a
00:33:46
million?
00:33:46
>> Well, my my dream was I said I want to
00:33:49
be like Clint Eastwood because Clint
00:33:50
Eastwood Charles Bronson and Mal Brando
00:33:54
were the only guys that were going over
00:33:55
getting over a million dollars a movie
00:33:58
in the 70s in the early 70s. So they
00:34:00
were like the kings. So I said to
00:34:02
myself, wouldn't it be cool if I get a
00:34:04
million dollars a movie, you know, and I
00:34:06
always shot for the stars, always the
00:34:08
big the big dream. And then eventually
00:34:10
it happened.
00:34:11
>> So I I felt fantastic. I felt delighted
00:34:14
that I made a million dollars and that
00:34:16
I'm a millionaire. But
00:34:18
>> I was already a millionaire before then
00:34:20
because I was insisting on making my
00:34:23
money in real estate.
00:34:25
>> You know, like for instance, this
00:34:26
building that we're sitting in right
00:34:28
now, I built it in 1984.
00:34:30
So 1984 I bought at least before at
00:34:34
least it was No, it was not before Conan
00:34:37
but it was before
00:34:39
we we went Terminator and all those.
00:34:41
>> And where did you get the money to buy
00:34:43
the real estate?
00:34:44
>> Well, I was I was working on
00:34:46
construction sites. I was doing
00:34:47
exhibitions and all and I started saving
00:34:50
money and then there was an apartment
00:34:52
building for sale in Santa Monica for
00:34:56
$240,000.
00:34:58
But that's like the day. Yeah. You know,
00:35:01
the $10 million. I don't know what. But
00:35:03
in any case, was $240,000
00:35:06
>> and I needed $37,000
00:35:09
down payment.
00:35:11
>> I had in my bank account 27.
00:35:15
So I went to Joe Weider who was the
00:35:17
publisher of the bodybuilding magazine.
00:35:20
Exactly. And I said, "Can you go and
00:35:22
loan me $10,000 for one year?"
00:35:26
and he said, "Absolutely." And so he
00:35:29
would get loan me the the $10,000. I
00:35:31
will put the $37,000 down and I bought
00:35:34
this building uh this office building.
00:35:37
Two years later, someone comes to me and
00:35:39
offers me another $500,000
00:35:42
for the same building. This is how much
00:35:44
real estate went up in the 70s because
00:35:47
of the high inflation rate. Right? So I
00:35:49
now immediately sold this building, took
00:35:51
that profit and trade it up to a 12unit
00:35:53
apartment building. Then I sold that two
00:35:56
years later and traded up to a 36 unit
00:35:59
apartment.
00:35:59
>> Your book on how to become a millionaire
00:36:01
coming up. So I was like really quickly
00:36:05
in the in the 70s I was already a
00:36:08
millionaire.
00:36:13
>> Without giving away numbers, but I'm
00:36:15
always fascinated. How much real estate
00:36:17
did you end up buying? And was it all
00:36:19
Southern California where you bought
00:36:21
property? Did you buy it other places? I
00:36:22
I always was in other places in Colorado
00:36:25
for instance, we bought a whole square
00:36:26
block in Colorado and then eventually
00:36:28
there was a square block still on it.
00:36:29
Yeah.
00:36:30
>> How much was the square block square
00:36:32
block?
00:36:33
>> It was it was it was not that because we
00:36:36
bought up pieces at the time. Yeah.
00:36:39
>> And then eventually was a square block
00:36:40
and then we were able to sell this to
00:36:42
someone that wanted to build a high-rise
00:36:44
and then we were able to get cut in 10%
00:36:47
of the high-rise and blah blah blah and
00:36:48
all that stuff. So anyway, so I was
00:36:51
always felt very comfortable with the
00:36:52
real estate business, but at the same
00:36:54
time the rule is don't have all your
00:36:57
irons in the same fire. So I was, you
00:36:59
know, investing in stocks and in bonds
00:37:01
and all kinds of other kind of like
00:37:03
startup businesses and so on. And so um
00:37:07
my investments always were very good. I
00:37:09
never lost money on any investment as
00:37:12
far as that goes. There was a huge and
00:37:14
listen to this. It was really funny
00:37:15
because I bought the first money I got.
00:37:18
I I saved I bought land out in the
00:37:21
Endelope Valley.
00:37:23
>> Why? Because I read somewhere when I
00:37:26
came over to this country that they're
00:37:28
going to build a supersonic airport out
00:37:30
there.
00:37:31
>> And so I said, "Oh, I'm going to go
00:37:33
without telling anyone. I'm going to
00:37:34
sneak out there and I'm going to buy
00:37:36
some property." Put a knife in your
00:37:37
mouth. Exactly. And so this is what I
00:37:39
did. I bought for $5,000. I had only
00:37:43
$1,000. So I had to pay off the $5,000.
00:37:45
I bought this property out there and
00:37:48
then of course they never built the
00:37:49
airport.
00:37:50
>> I thought the United States Air Force is
00:37:52
out there.
00:37:52
>> No, but the air force is out there. I
00:37:53
mean the supersonic airport. They passed
00:37:55
a law, an international law that said no
00:37:59
supersonic aircrafts can fly over land.
00:38:01
>> So that only over the ocean. So that
00:38:04
killed the idea and so they kept the LA
00:38:06
airport here. So my investment went down
00:38:08
the tube. So everyone was laughing about
00:38:10
it. You know, but here's what the thing
00:38:13
Joe Wido said to me. He says, "I know.
00:38:16
Don't worry about it. This will be a
00:38:18
good investment for your grandchildren."
00:38:20
>> Yeah.
00:38:21
>> Keep it. Forget about it.
00:38:23
>> Yeah.
00:38:24
>> I did. I totally forgot about it and I
00:38:27
kept it. Today it's worth $1.5 million.
00:38:31
>> Just to show you a $5,000 property. So,
00:38:34
I didn't even lose money on that
00:38:36
investment. So this is just to show you
00:38:38
that uh you know if you really hold on
00:38:41
to it
00:38:41
>> we talk more about the rest of the
00:38:43
podcast
00:38:45
>> how to uh
00:38:47
Arnold uh what would you
00:38:48
>> after what was after
00:38:51
>> the one you just said oh Conan what was
00:38:53
the first sort of mainstream
00:38:55
>> Conan too and then
00:38:56
>> well what was
00:38:57
>> that was kind of mainstream
00:38:59
>> the funny thing was my my dreams
00:39:01
>> and my desires grew
00:39:04
>> and I'm sure it's the same with
00:39:06
First you want to do stand up comment
00:39:08
but then you say wouldn't it be great if
00:39:09
I do a TV show wouldn't it be great if I
00:39:11
do a movie what so you it grows you know
00:39:15
you get more and more hungry and so the
00:39:17
same thing happened to me you know so I
00:39:18
said to myself
00:39:19
>> wouldn't it be cool if I could do movies
00:39:21
that doesn't
00:39:22
>> rely on muscles
00:39:24
>> right
00:39:24
>> so what what happened was Jim Cameron
00:39:26
comes along
00:39:28
>> and he says to me Mike Meadow boy and
00:39:31
they say to me he says do you want to do
00:39:33
this movie called Terminator
00:39:36
And I said, "Uh, yeah." I said, "That
00:39:39
would be great. Can you send me the
00:39:40
script?" They said, "Sure." So, he sent
00:39:42
me the script and they said, "It would
00:39:43
be this character Ree," which is a
00:39:46
heroic character in the movie.
00:39:48
>> And I said, "Uh, oh, that would be a
00:39:50
really great great role." And then, for
00:39:52
some reason, the other when I met with
00:39:53
Jim Cameron and we uh had lunch, I
00:39:57
talked the entire lunch about
00:39:59
Terminator.
00:40:01
>> Here's Jim. I said, "I know you have not
00:40:05
directed much, but uh but I say here's
00:40:08
what is important when you direct this
00:40:11
guy, whoever plays the termin that he
00:40:13
says, well the the character that we
00:40:15
hired for it is OJ Simpson."
00:40:19
He says, "But the studio is kind of like
00:40:22
negative about him
00:40:24
>> because they think that he cannot sell
00:40:26
the idea of being a killing machine."
00:40:28
>> Oh. Oh.
00:40:29
>> He says, "OJ is not enough of a killer."
00:40:32
>> He's kind of nice. uh that he looks he
00:40:34
looks too soft for that. So these are
00:40:36
great quotes. So look this is the truth.
00:40:39
I mean this is like unbelievable.
00:40:40
>> He's doing hurts commercial
00:40:41
>> and uh and and and so they they said so
00:40:44
this is not really set in stone. The
00:40:47
whole thing is said, but uh after
00:40:50
listening to you,
00:40:52
Jim Cameron said, after listening to you
00:40:54
talking to me about the Terminator that
00:40:56
he has to be trained to be like a
00:40:59
machine and he cannot walk like a human
00:41:02
being, that he cannot talk like a human
00:41:04
being.
00:41:06
You're absolutely correct. Your take on
00:41:08
it is perfect. Why don't you play the
00:41:10
Terminator?
00:41:11
>> Yeah.
00:41:11
>> And I said, "No, no, no, no, no." I
00:41:13
said, "Look, I want to play Ree. I want
00:41:16
to be the hero, not the villain. Yeah,
00:41:17
I'm set up in my mind.
00:41:19
>> Well, the way I shoot it, it would be
00:41:22
like a hero and a villain. Hero because
00:41:24
he does all these unbelievable things
00:41:26
and wipes everyone out. Villain because
00:41:28
he's a machine.
00:41:30
>> But you don't have to be responsible
00:41:32
perfectly personally because you're a
00:41:34
machine. You're directed by some higher
00:41:36
power. So, it's not like you going
00:41:38
around killing things. So, I said to him
00:41:40
said, "Oh, let me think about it." And
00:41:42
so for for a few days I thought about it
00:41:44
and then I said to myself, he's actually
00:41:47
right. If he shoots this the right way,
00:41:49
this could be really cool. And then I
00:41:51
called him back and I said, "Okay, I'm
00:41:52
in."
00:41:53
>> And so there was the first movie where
00:41:56
we were through the whole movie.
00:41:57
>> No, never. It was like jacket, leather
00:42:00
jacket and the whole thing like that.
00:42:02
>> And from then I got the offer to do
00:42:04
after Terminator to do Commander and
00:42:07
after that to do Predator, Running Man.
00:42:09
And it went on and on and on. in every
00:42:11
one of your movies.
00:42:12
>> I was in I was in
00:42:14
>> I was accepted in Hollywood as the
00:42:16
action hero
00:42:18
>> and it all came from Conan and from
00:42:20
Terminator. So this what kind of was my
00:42:23
launching pad.
00:42:24
>> And you god you just had such a run at
00:42:26
>> you know Dana I saw a a copy of
00:42:28
Terminator when you say you know your
00:42:30
catchphrases are very short which is
00:42:32
smart.
00:42:32
>> I saw an early copy when you say come
00:42:35
with me if you want to live.
00:42:36
>> Yeah. And it was, "Come with me if you
00:42:38
want to live because I know all the
00:42:40
shortcuts in town. I we can go down the
00:42:43
710 and we can get in a carpool lane and
00:42:45
the and the monster robot only can drive
00:42:48
in the regular cuz he's one person." And
00:42:51
I think it was better you tightened it
00:42:53
>> because that seemed like if you want to
00:42:55
live.
00:42:56
>> Yeah. You didn't want to get be too
00:42:57
wordy in that.
00:42:58
>> Yeah. It was too wordy. And so the final
00:43:00
script, come with me if you want to
00:43:02
live.
00:43:02
>> They cut all that out there. There's a
00:43:06
lot of You had a lot of good ones. Did
00:43:07
you know at the time when you do those
00:43:08
that these might be sort of cool little
00:43:10
things?
00:43:11
>> No, you don't know. I mean, we never
00:43:13
know what would hit and what would what
00:43:16
people really like. I mean, you wish you
00:43:18
can say that and say, "Oh, this was
00:43:19
written this way or I improvised that."
00:43:21
It's not that wouldn't be true. The
00:43:23
reality of it is we had no no idea that
00:43:26
even I'll be back will be a line that
00:43:28
would be the most repeated kind of line.
00:43:31
Yeah. you know, anything. We just I was
00:43:33
arguing with Jim Cameron endlessly about
00:43:36
I will be back. He says, "No, I wrote
00:43:39
I'll be back."
00:43:40
>> I'm going to say, "I will be back."
00:43:42
Because I don't like the L thing sounds
00:43:46
a little weird.
00:43:47
>> I said, "I will be back." And he says,
00:43:49
"Who the [ __ ] wrote the script?"
00:43:51
>> Oh, yeah.
00:43:52
>> Are you the script writer now or am I
00:43:54
the script writer? I said, "You're the
00:43:56
script writer." And he says, "Okay."
00:43:57
Okay. So, we say, "I'll be back." And if
00:44:00
you want, we can shoot it 10 different
00:44:01
ways if that makes you feel comfortable.
00:44:03
He says, "But so let's just do that.
00:44:06
I'll be back." Not, "I will be back.
00:44:07
That's bullshit." And so, I was arguing
00:44:09
with him about,
00:44:10
>> you know, what's funny is is luckily, he
00:44:13
was so right. And he made me he made
00:44:15
>> I will be back sounds almost more
00:44:16
robotic. And you were right.
00:44:18
>> Yeah, I know. But I mean, so he just
00:44:19
loved I'll be back. you know, and and so
00:44:22
we did it 10 times and uh when the movie
00:44:26
came out, everyone wanted me to repeat
00:44:28
that line. And so you don't know, we had
00:44:31
no idea this is going to happen. We had
00:44:32
no idea that, you know, kind of like all
00:44:35
the stuff, you know, as the Lista Baby
00:44:37
in Terminator 2, right? Uh you know, or
00:44:39
get to the Chopper is stupid lines. get
00:44:42
to the chopper
00:44:43
>> just because the way I say it because I
00:44:45
we can't I can Germans cannot pronounce
00:44:47
the a and the end. So so everything is
00:44:50
ah chopper
00:44:52
>> you know it's not a tumor. It's not a
00:44:54
tumor. So so when I said so when I said
00:44:57
it's not a tumor
00:44:59
when we rehearsed for kindergarten cop
00:45:02
>> Mhm.
00:45:03
>> and I did the rehearsal with the kids
00:45:06
and I said it's not a tumor. All the
00:45:08
kids started laughing even though it was
00:45:10
supposed to be an intense scene. And
00:45:11
then Ivan Ryman looked and he said,
00:45:13
"This is funny." They're all laughing.
00:45:15
He says, "Say it the same way. Don't
00:45:17
change." So anyway, so so this those
00:45:21
lines became kind of famous because the
00:45:24
way I say it with my accent and so if
00:45:26
someone else would have said it wouldn't
00:45:28
have meant anything.
00:45:28
>> It's musical. It's a musicality. I will
00:45:31
be back has a different rhythm
00:45:33
comedically. I'll be back. Exactly. So
00:45:35
intense. Didn't you do some where you
00:45:38
would drop guys off things for dropping
00:45:39
by and you drop them off a cliff? Those
00:45:41
kinds of dropping the guy says, "Are you
00:45:43
promised to kill me last? You know,
00:45:46
Sally, I said, Sally, remember I
00:45:48
promised to kill you last." And he says,
00:45:50
"Yeah, yeah." I say, "I lied."
00:45:54
>> So, Mr. Freeze had a couple
00:45:56
>> and everyone all the kids started
00:45:57
running around and the parents were
00:45:58
saying, he says, "You promised me that
00:46:00
you're not going to get an F in school."
00:46:02
I lied.
00:46:03
>> I lied. That's great. So,
00:46:05
>> you have more comedy hits than most
00:46:07
comedians to be honest.
00:46:08
>> But, you know, when when we were talking
00:46:10
about
00:46:11
>> growing your vision,
00:46:13
>> like
00:46:14
>> the last thing I ever thought about
00:46:15
doing was was was doing comedies.
00:46:18
>> Yeah.
00:46:18
>> And uh but then when I was doing a bunch
00:46:20
of movies, action movies, I said to
00:46:22
myself, wouldn't it be cool if I could
00:46:24
do a comedy because I felt I had a sense
00:46:26
of humor. Yes. I agree that I didn't
00:46:30
understand the American sense of humor
00:46:33
as well. So that's why I asked my buddy
00:46:36
Milton Pearl to teach me about comedy.
00:46:40
Yeah. Milton Pearl. Yeah. So he would
00:46:42
write
00:46:42
>> He was friends with Lucille Ball as
00:46:44
well.
00:46:44
>> Yeah. But he would write jokes for me
00:46:46
all the time. Milton Pearl. And so he
00:46:48
always,
00:46:49
>> you know, called me [ __ ] Nazi. You
00:46:52
have to write this [ __ ] jokes for
00:46:53
this Nazi. God damn it. you know, but
00:46:56
you know, but he loved hanging out with
00:46:58
me and smoking cigars with me. Because
00:47:00
of him, I really got into the cigar
00:47:02
smoking actually. But it was like he was
00:47:04
really really funny and he would then go
00:47:06
and start writing stuff for me when I
00:47:08
was doing speeches,
00:47:10
>> you know, and he would say says you
00:47:11
can't go out there in a speech and start
00:47:13
with a serious note and you got to go
00:47:15
and say first make the people like you.
00:47:18
>> So say something funny,
00:47:19
>> right? you know, go out there and just
00:47:21
say, you know what, you probably wonder
00:47:23
what what am I doing here at a medical
00:47:25
convention in Vegas, but you know, the
00:47:28
Dr. S and came up to me and says, I love
00:47:30
you because you're a real good American
00:47:33
and you believe in free speech, right?
00:47:35
And I said, yeah, of course I believe in
00:47:36
free speech. Good. Because you're going
00:47:37
to give one in Vegas on June 14th, you
00:47:40
know. So, so then the people laugh and
00:47:42
they say, and then they like you and now
00:47:44
whatever you say, they will like you. I
00:47:45
said, so there was Milton Pearl's kind
00:47:47
of a thing. So he would write little
00:47:49
jokes and little lines for me for the
00:47:51
beginning to get to get going with with
00:47:53
the species here.
00:47:54
>> Lucil Ball Milton Bro, you got some good
00:47:56
ones.
00:48:02
>> Yeah. Do you remember with the movie we
00:48:03
almost made? We wrote a script. It was
00:48:05
called Hans and Fron's The Goodly Man
00:48:07
Dilemma that we were going to do with
00:48:09
you. It didn't get made, but it was a
00:48:10
funny script.
00:48:11
>> Well, just just I had that conversation
00:48:15
just recently
00:48:16
>> with Conan. No. Well, with Conan. Yes.
00:48:18
But I mean, we also internally had it
00:48:21
because I said there are several scripts
00:48:25
>> I said that were offered to me that I
00:48:27
didn't do
00:48:29
>> for whatever the reasons were, you know,
00:48:31
that they were dismissed or they were
00:48:33
never made or or I couldn't wait. They
00:48:36
couldn't wait for me so they hire
00:48:38
someone else. You know, like The Rock.
00:48:40
Yeah. Yeah.
00:48:40
>> In the movie that the you know the rock
00:48:43
with the that was with the uh with with
00:48:46
uh
00:48:46
>> Sean Connory.
00:48:46
>> Sean Connory. Exactly.
00:48:48
>> And what's the the actor's name again?
00:48:51
>> Nick Cage.
00:48:52
>> Nick Cage. Exactly. Nick Nicholas Cage.
00:48:54
And so I was going to do that but I mean
00:48:56
they couldn't wait for me because I was
00:48:57
doing another movie first and all that
00:48:59
stuff. So there were certain but the one
00:49:01
movie that I always loved that I even
00:49:05
would do the day
00:49:07
is the the the the script that we had
00:49:10
together
00:49:11
>> where Hans and France finally comes to
00:49:14
find the uncle and then I staying in his
00:49:17
house.
00:49:17
>> Yes.
00:49:18
>> And I remember it was so funny.
00:49:21
>> Yes.
00:49:22
>> And I just remember when you guys you
00:49:25
came to me and you said I have to go to
00:49:27
the bathroom. Where where's the
00:49:29
bathroom? And they said, you go down the
00:49:31
hall and where you see the deltoid, you
00:49:34
go left. Then you see a calf, you go
00:49:36
right. And then you see Yeah, exactly.
00:49:38
There was all these huge sculptures of
00:49:41
my body all over the house. And this was
00:49:43
the direction that I gave you guys. It
00:49:45
was just so stupid. It's so [ __ ]
00:49:47
funny.
00:49:48
>> Oh yeah. And you had a war room we went
00:49:50
into where you had it was a whole
00:49:52
puzzle, a whole like a Monopoly game,
00:49:53
but studios Paramont 20 and you had
00:49:56
little you're pushing pieces around.
00:49:58
alone is going to do a movie over 20th
00:50:00
Century Fox. We countered Panama with a
00:50:03
comedy, you know.
00:50:04
>> Exactly.
00:50:05
>> All of it was having fun with the image
00:50:07
of Arnold at that time.
00:50:10
>> And and what you guys did in Saturday
00:50:11
Night Live.
00:50:12
>> Yeah. So, it was the idea was that they
00:50:14
took the Saturday Night Live idea
00:50:17
>> where you were searching for me.
00:50:19
>> Mhm.
00:50:20
>> And uh running into different kind of
00:50:22
situations, but here you were actually
00:50:24
you found me
00:50:26
>> in this movie. And now it goes on from
00:50:28
what what do we do together? And so it
00:50:30
was hilarious the script. So I mean I
00:50:34
think it still could be funny.
00:50:36
>> Uh we read it we read it on Conan's
00:50:38
podcast and it had a big reaction.
00:50:40
People really liked it. It it's from a
00:50:42
different era in the sense that it's
00:50:43
really big funny and silly which I don't
00:50:46
think they make enough of those movies.
00:50:47
>> You can modernize it. Oh yeah. If you
00:50:49
get a ride at the day if you guys sit
00:50:52
down instead reworking it what works
00:50:54
today and do it for Netflix. say you
00:50:57
know for that audience I mean imagine
00:50:59
what the smash that would be
00:51:01
>> lot of visual laughing from here to
00:51:03
eternity
00:51:03
>> a lot of visual
00:51:04
>> come out at Christmas time or before
00:51:06
Christmas I mean it would be just would
00:51:08
be fantastic
00:51:09
>> I'm around I'm in a second but yeah it
00:51:12
was just a funny script and you were uh
00:51:14
it was an hilarious part for you but you
00:51:17
know life is what it is
00:51:19
>> exactly
00:51:20
>> you know you just keep moving on to your
00:51:22
the chapter at the end about just giving
00:51:24
back you know and you're talking about
00:51:26
Milton Burrow helping you loosely a ball
00:51:29
and now you must find chances or do
00:51:31
young movie stars look you up or ask you
00:51:34
or give advice or you're you're a mentor
00:51:36
of how to
00:51:39
>> I don't know is there anyone more
00:51:41
successful this will sound I'm kissing
00:51:43
your ass but is there any been anyone
00:51:45
like you in the last 40 50 years to come
00:51:48
to America from another country from
00:51:50
extreme poverty and do all these things
00:51:52
and then here you are now
00:51:55
um still going and doing,
00:51:57
>> you know, I I don't know. I think that
00:51:59
one of the
00:52:02
people that I always admired a lot that
00:52:04
came to America with the age of 15, I
00:52:08
think, was Henry Kissinger.
00:52:09
>> Yeah. And he's still around.
00:52:11
>> And Henry Kissinger
00:52:13
had an unbelievable career.
00:52:15
>> Yeah.
00:52:16
>> Academic career and political career.
00:52:19
and it was just a genius foreign policy
00:52:22
kind of a guy and all that stuff. So
00:52:24
there look there's a lot of people Elon
00:52:26
Musk and people like that that that have
00:52:29
come to this country. Remember
00:52:31
>> Elon Musk would be a
00:52:32
>> but one of the things no matter who it
00:52:35
is no matter how many there are
00:52:38
>> one thing we know for sure that there's
00:52:40
no other country in the world where we
00:52:43
could have done that.
00:52:45
>> No other country. I mean, if I think
00:52:48
about and I'm pretty much aware of the
00:52:51
world because I travel a lot and through
00:52:54
bodybuilding and movie promotion and
00:52:56
when I was governor do trade missions
00:52:58
all over the world and all of that
00:53:00
stuff, but there's just no place and
00:53:02
even today
00:53:04
a play at a time when we have difficulty
00:53:06
in America, you know, where the parties
00:53:08
don't get along and they can't get much
00:53:09
done and all this stuff. Even during
00:53:11
that time when I travel around I don't
00:53:15
see anyone coming up to me and saying oh
00:53:17
Arnold can you help me get a visa to uh
00:53:22
Jordan.
00:53:24
Oh Arnold can you help me to get a visa
00:53:26
to Russia
00:53:27
>> or can you help me to get to South
00:53:29
Africa or something like that? No I mean
00:53:31
it's all about America please help me.
00:53:34
Can you write a letter letter for the
00:53:36
immigration office? You know I want to
00:53:38
get to America. I want to be in America.
00:53:40
So this is the number one country still
00:53:43
by far. It's the most desirable place to
00:53:45
for people to come. It's the only place
00:53:47
where someone like myself can come and
00:53:50
make it and make it big and make all
00:53:52
these dreams become a reality.
00:53:53
>> What are we doing right? Because we
00:53:55
we're pretty self-critical as a nation
00:53:57
right now about America. But you have a
00:53:59
perspective unique to people who are
00:54:02
born here tend to take it for granted.
00:54:04
But what are we doing right so that
00:54:06
people can come in and and do have a
00:54:09
life like you've had in America?
00:54:12
>> But people can and people do today
00:54:14
>> because the economic freedom
00:54:17
>> I think it is the economic freedom. I
00:54:19
think it is just that it has its
00:54:22
downfalls
00:54:24
and it has its big advantages and the
00:54:27
advantages more than uh our
00:54:30
disadvantages and that's what makes us
00:54:32
so great. Yes, we have problems and all
00:54:34
that, but I mean it's still anyone can
00:54:36
come still today to America and really
00:54:40
become kind of very successful. I see it
00:54:43
all the time in a smaller way. Even I
00:54:46
see people coming from I see this one
00:54:48
guy was coming from Israel uh to Gorge
00:54:51
Gym. He was working out for a while.
00:54:53
Then all of a sudden he was like a
00:54:54
personal trainer and the next thing I
00:54:56
know he's driving around driving up with
00:54:58
Austin Martin and with the next day with
00:55:01
a Jaguar and the guys getting $100 an
00:55:04
hour. He works 15 hours a day.
00:55:08
>> Mhm.
00:55:08
>> 15 hours a day. It's talking about
00:55:10
working your ass off, right? What we
00:55:12
talked about earlier. This is this guy
00:55:15
believes in working. So he drives these
00:55:17
fancy cars. He has nice girls around. He
00:55:20
trains people there in the gym. is doing
00:55:22
exactly what he wants to do. He's from
00:55:23
Israel, just came over here a few years
00:55:25
ago. Yeah. And the same is with, you
00:55:27
know, French guy that does the same
00:55:29
thing. I know this one girl that is from
00:55:31
Sweden. She's a personal trainer and
00:55:33
she's making a fortune and all this. So
00:55:35
you, this is unlike any other place, you
00:55:37
know, and so I think this is really the
00:55:40
place to be and um where people can be
00:55:43
successful and I think America should be
00:55:45
proud of that. And you're right. When
00:55:48
you are an American,
00:55:49
>> yeah,
00:55:49
>> you take it for granted. When you're
00:55:51
American, you sometimes don't appreciate
00:55:55
>> how great this country really is.
00:55:58
>> And the thing that that everyone has to
00:56:00
do is, and I talk about this in the last
00:56:02
chapter, is this country was built
00:56:06
by hardworking men and women that have
00:56:09
sacrificed.
00:56:10
>> Mhm. that were not just looking forward
00:56:13
to the glory but sacrificed
00:56:17
and I think that today's kids have to
00:56:20
study that history because it will make
00:56:23
them wake up and say I cannot be this
00:56:27
little girly man.
00:56:29
>> Well put because
00:56:31
>> I cannot be this guy that is staying in
00:56:33
bed. I want to sleep in.
00:56:35
>> Oh, I want to feel good. Oh, I want to
00:56:38
be treated kind of fairly and then and
00:56:40
and nicer and stuff. No, this is a tough
00:56:43
world. Get up at 5:00 in the morning,
00:56:45
6:00 in the morning and kick some
00:56:47
serious ass. Go to work. Whatever you
00:56:50
do, the day is 24 hours. You can do it.
00:56:53
And this is how we make this country,
00:56:55
you know, not only great, but keep it
00:56:57
the greatest country in the world is by
00:56:59
not babying ourselves and not by kind of
00:57:02
like taking it easy and trying to sleep
00:57:04
in and I want to feel better and all
00:57:06
this kind of stuff, but to kind of do
00:57:08
the same thing as they did in the old
00:57:10
days, work your butt off and like Ted
00:57:13
Ted Turner always said, you know, early
00:57:15
to bed, early to rise, work like hell
00:57:17
and advertise. This is where the action
00:57:19
is, you know, and I I believe in that,
00:57:21
you know, but it is important to know
00:57:23
that we got to grind it out and we
00:57:25
cannot just always look for the
00:57:26
pleasures. But there's punishment,
00:57:28
there's hardship, there's failure,
00:57:31
>> there is tough times that you go
00:57:33
through, but that's all okay. We got to
00:57:36
go and have a clear vision, chase that
00:57:38
vision, and then there will be struggles
00:57:40
and all that stuff. The more struggles
00:57:42
we have,
00:57:45
the tougher we will get.
00:57:46
>> Mhm. And uh the more failures we have,
00:57:50
the more we learn and the more
00:57:52
successful we will can get. I mean,
00:57:53
remember what the Michael Jordan said, I
00:57:55
missed 5,000 shots.
00:57:58
>> And I I I lost, you know, 200 some 80
00:58:01
games.
00:58:02
>> Mhm.
00:58:02
>> But I became the greatest basketball
00:58:04
player because of it. You know, what
00:58:05
I've learned. So it's it's don't be
00:58:07
afraid of failure is one of the chapters
00:58:09
that I have in in in the book. And so I
00:58:12
think it's it's hard work not being
00:58:15
afraid of failure to grind it out to
00:58:17
have a clear vision not listen to the
00:58:19
naysayers pick big pick big goals. So
00:58:22
those are the kind of rules that I talk
00:58:23
about in the book uh because that's what
00:58:26
we need to do in order to be successful
00:58:28
as a person and as a country.
00:58:30
>> Yeah. And I think that, you know, it's
00:58:32
in your book, but that you you just have
00:58:34
you in the end of the day. And sometimes
00:58:36
don't look at social media too much and
00:58:39
get tricked out that this person did
00:58:40
nothing and is a millionaire. But what
00:58:42
what I found a few times just being
00:58:44
driven around the country to gigs and I
00:58:46
had first generation immigrants driving
00:58:48
me from Russia, wherever this one
00:58:51
Russian guy goes, I tried to open
00:58:53
business in Russia. Someone stop. I
00:58:55
tried to hire more employees. They say
00:58:58
stop. I come to America, I start to do
00:59:01
same thing. No one say stop. No one told
00:59:03
me to stop. Who are you now? Almost
00:59:05
every time. I I own the business. I just
00:59:08
like your comedy. I drive you, Mr. Ky.
00:59:10
But so that's the idea is it's nothing.
00:59:13
I think the secret sauce of America if
00:59:15
you put the work in consistently and are
00:59:17
willing to fail over and over again.
00:59:19
There is some great stuff that will
00:59:21
happen to you emotionally, mentally, and
00:59:23
hopefully you will experience success.
00:59:26
It won't stop.
00:59:27
>> You're absolutely right.
00:59:29
Because no one has ever said to me, "You
00:59:32
can't." They would say, "I think this is
00:59:34
impossible." Or there's their naysayers
00:59:36
and they say, "No one has ever done it
00:59:37
before." But no one said, "I would not
00:59:39
allow you to do that."
00:59:40
>> Right.
00:59:41
>> There's no such No one.
00:59:42
>> You've already done four movies. It's
00:59:43
your turn. Now you go back is going to
00:59:46
do to win.
00:59:46
>> Exactly. Yeah.
00:59:48
No such thing. So, you know, so I have
00:59:51
to always say that none of it that I
00:59:54
accomplished would have been possible if
00:59:57
I wouldn't have been in America.
00:59:59
>> Mhm. Yeah.
01:00:00
>> Wow. Well, see this here?
01:00:01
>> Yeah.
01:00:01
>> See the hair
01:00:02
>> hairs of my arms.
01:00:04
>> Actually, mine's here.
01:00:04
>> Yeah. His arms monstrous forearms of
01:00:07
yours. Look at this. All pumped up. How
01:00:10
do you do it?
01:00:10
>> I do a lot of push-ups. I just push-ups
01:00:13
are my main thing if I can't get to the
01:00:15
gym. But I try to, you know, I keep
01:00:18
going.
01:00:18
>> Yeah. You know, I'm just got my fit.
01:00:21
>> I always tell people, you occupy a room,
01:00:24
but you live here.
01:00:26
>> So, work on this. This is where you're
01:00:28
living. You could occupy this, but
01:00:30
>> that's right.
01:00:31
>> You can't get away. No matter where you
01:00:32
go, there you are.
01:00:33
>> Well, Arnold, you're total recall line.
01:00:37
>> Total recall.
01:00:38
>> Remember total recall when I check in on
01:00:39
the beginning, they say to me to to to
01:00:42
sell this implant, they say, "What is
01:00:44
always the same? Wherever you go,
01:00:47
>> you
01:00:47
>> you there you are.
01:00:48
>> She says, "But here we told Rico, we're
01:00:51
gonna help you with that. You can become
01:00:53
kind of an agent, secret agent. You can
01:00:55
have this wonderful woman. You can do
01:00:57
this. You can conquer the the blah
01:00:59
blah." So this is the whole thing is the
01:01:00
whole line is about that.
01:01:02
>> Do you have a favorite movie?
01:01:04
>> Uh, no. because it's like,
01:01:07
you know, it's like I I love Twins with
01:01:10
Danny Devito, but at the same time, I
01:01:12
love, you know, Terminator and I love,
01:01:15
you know, Predator, True Lies. I mean,
01:01:17
it's very hard to pick, uh, you know,
01:01:20
one. There's some movies that were fun
01:01:22
to make, like Kindergarten Cop to work
01:01:24
with those 20 kids. That was really a
01:01:26
lot of fun.
01:01:27
>> Yeah.
01:01:27
>> Um, but there's other movies that were
01:01:29
really hard to make, like True Lies. We
01:01:32
were shooting like for six months on
01:01:34
this movie from winter scenes and summer
01:01:36
scenes and the snow in the cold freezing
01:01:38
cold. It was just torches and then 80
01:01:40
days night shooting and all that stuff.
01:01:42
But it was a fun movie to watch.
01:01:44
>> What just for the fans that are
01:01:46
listening at the end of Predator
01:01:49
you got rigged a log to kill or
01:01:51
something. It's what did you say? What
01:01:52
are you or something? I think it takes
01:01:54
its helmet off. You're ugly. I can't
01:01:57
>> when you had the mud all over.
01:01:58
>> What ugly [ __ ]
01:02:02
Yeah. Yeah.
01:02:03
>> I knew it was a great line.
01:02:05
You're just almost dead. You're just
01:02:07
covered in mud. You got this monster.
01:02:10
You're one ugly [ __ ]
01:02:11
>> Come kill me. Kill me. Do it. DO IT NOW.
01:02:14
Do it now. And then on the end say, "Get
01:02:17
to the chopper."
01:02:20
A vista baby.
01:02:22
>> I had no idea that I would be walking
01:02:23
around. I would go to the Arnold Classic
01:02:25
to the sports festival. People screaming
01:02:27
out, "Oh, get to the chopper." You know,
01:02:30
the all my lines there screaming out.
01:02:31
It's just hilarious to watch that.
01:02:33
>> I was at the Arnold Classic with you. We
01:02:35
were backstage and on the TV monitor
01:02:37
were all the contestants out there doing
01:02:39
their stuff.
01:02:40
>> Yeah.
01:02:40
>> And so I just looked at the monitor. I
01:02:42
asked you. I said, "Is there anyone
01:02:44
exceptional here?"
01:02:45
>> Oh.
01:02:46
>> And you just leaned back.
01:02:48
>> Well, you know,
01:02:50
me.
01:02:53
>> Yeah. [ __ ] Uh, well,
01:02:55
>> David, what have you been up to?
01:02:57
>> Oh, thank you. Finally. Um, well, kind
01:03:00
of.
01:03:00
>> All right, we're going to take a quick
01:03:01
break and come back with a commercial
01:03:03
now. Uh, no, I was going to say
01:03:05
>> doing a lot. You've got a game show on
01:03:07
tomorrow.
01:03:07
>> Say hi to everyone. There's, uh, Maria,
01:03:09
who's always a fun ball buster to me.
01:03:11
Uh, there's Patrick who's on the boys
01:03:13
spin-off, right? Patrick's doing great.
01:03:16
>> Christopher, uh, your daughters, I see
01:03:18
all these people here and there. We did
01:03:21
Grown-Ups, too. Patrick was in, uh,
01:03:23
>> and so, and Christopher works on
01:03:25
Tyson's, uh, podcast.
01:03:26
>> Yeah,
01:03:27
>> everyone's doing great. Um, just hi to
01:03:29
the family and thanks for coming down
01:03:30
and it's great to talk to you about this
01:03:32
book.
01:03:33
>> But David is very very busy.
01:03:35
>> What's that?
01:03:35
>> He's very Is that what you were doing?
01:03:37
He's doing a lot of standup. He's
01:03:38
>> Oh, yeah. I'm doing stand up. I'm doing
01:03:39
all the same, you know, movies.
01:03:41
>> No, I'm crushing it. I'll send you a
01:03:43
couple links.
01:03:43
>> Yeah.
01:03:44
>> Um,
01:03:45
>> those are not handme-downs. This is
01:03:46
>> Yeah, I know. These are right off the
01:03:48
rack.
01:03:52
>> Hand me down from Dana.
01:03:54
He's like my little brother.
01:03:57
>> Let me ask you something. I mean,
01:03:58
>> sure.
01:03:59
>> Uh I know that you're
01:04:02
>> uh doing this podcast to interview me,
01:04:03
but I find it interesting
01:04:06
>> how both of you stay so lean,
01:04:09
>> right?
01:04:09
>> What what just give me a quick rundown.
01:04:12
Uh what makes you stay so lean?
01:04:14
>> Are you disciplined with your eating or
01:04:16
you working out?
01:04:18
>> You know what I realized down the line?
01:04:19
Uh at a certain point it was my problem
01:04:21
was more eating than working out more.
01:04:23
So when I ate less or more thought it
01:04:26
out more, I would lose weight faster
01:04:29
than working out too much. So it was cut
01:04:31
out sugar,
01:04:32
>> try to cut out some white flour. And
01:04:34
then overall, it is like more of a
01:04:36
lifestyle than just dieting or whatever.
01:04:38
You really slowly have to start cutting
01:04:40
stuff out when you get older and you
01:04:41
can't eat as badly, do as much this and
01:04:44
that. And I sleep probably eight hours.
01:04:46
Uh Dana, what about you?
01:04:47
>> Um I I ran track and field in high
01:04:50
school, you know, distance running and
01:04:52
cross country. Then I You still do?
01:04:54
>> Yeah, you still run.
01:04:54
>> Yeah, I do run and I and I hike. I do
01:04:56
all kinds of things. I love
01:04:58
>> the burn. You know how you say is better
01:05:00
than an orgasm, you know? I love hard
01:05:03
cardio. Sorry, that was that was over
01:05:06
something
01:05:08
pumping up. It's like I remember that
01:05:10
was funny.
01:05:11
>> When you get the burn, when you kick
01:05:12
into that, it's
01:05:13
>> I love to work really, really hard. I I
01:05:15
go up Griffith Park and I go I redline
01:05:18
really. And then um I started lifting
01:05:21
weights, you know, in my 30s. And then I
01:05:23
you and I have something in common. I
01:05:25
had a bypass that the operation wasn't
01:05:27
done correctly, but didn't hurt me when
01:05:29
I was 42. So, and now I'm a little older
01:05:32
than that. But that also put me on a
01:05:34
Mediterranean diet basically. And so my
01:05:38
wife and I just got all the junk out of
01:05:40
the house. We keep all the junk out of
01:05:42
the house. If it's not right there, I
01:05:44
don't have it. And I weigh myself. Not
01:05:47
I'm not neurotic about it, but I just
01:05:48
keep track. It's like a report card for
01:05:50
me. And I'm not trying to get too thin.
01:05:52
I just try to stay around this weight
01:05:54
because it feels I feel lighter on my
01:05:56
feet.
01:05:56
>> Yeah.
01:05:56
>> Yeah. It's hard.
01:05:57
>> No, I just think that it is so important
01:06:01
that we stay
01:06:03
>> lean
01:06:04
>> even though I'm not lean.
01:06:06
>> Well, you look great.
01:06:06
>> But I mean, I I'm just telling you that
01:06:08
I always today
01:06:10
>> I got to this age now
01:06:12
>> where I admire people much more when
01:06:14
they're lean than when they're bulked
01:06:15
up. Yeah,
01:06:16
>> because I think lean is where the action
01:06:18
is,
01:06:18
>> you know, because you know, the body
01:06:20
just uh No, but the body just is is
01:06:25
lives longer.
01:06:26
>> Mhm.
01:06:26
>> When you're lean,
01:06:28
>> I I I look at my dogs,
01:06:30
>> you know, the dogs that usually the
01:06:32
bigger dogs, they wipe out with the age
01:06:34
of 12, 13, 14. I have this little dog,
01:06:37
>> uh, you know, Noodle, little dog like
01:06:40
this. He's like 14 and a half years old.
01:06:42
runs around, jumps up on every bench,
01:06:44
and just still attacks all the other
01:06:46
dogs when they're nasty. Just the teeth
01:06:48
and know has full full of energy, but
01:06:51
it's little.
01:06:51
>> So, he's going to live for the next, you
01:06:53
know,
01:06:54
>> I'm like, I think it's amazing.
01:06:58
>> No, I'm noodle. No, but I'm just Yes,
01:07:01
I'm comparing them because because it
01:07:03
doesn't matter if you're carrying an
01:07:05
animal or if you're a human being,
01:07:08
>> being leaner and being lighter is means
01:07:10
a longevity. Means that you're around a
01:07:13
long time.
01:07:13
>> Okay. Can I do 10 push-ups now and have
01:07:16
you analyze just my form?
01:07:18
>> Just to start. I we my form. You can do
01:07:20
it.
01:07:21
>> Yeah. He's taking the mic with him.
01:07:23
>> Taking the mic out so I can
01:07:25
>> Okay, let's see. Just doing 10. I'm not
01:07:27
>> David. Do you want me to hold it?
01:07:29
>> Shake a little bit. Do
01:07:30
>> you want me to hold your
01:07:31
>> No, I'll go down it.
01:07:32
>> Okay.
01:07:33
>> So, it depends where I want.
01:07:34
>> Here comes Dana. He's doing
01:07:35
>> basically. So, I'm in the push-up
01:07:37
position.
01:07:38
>> Looks a little girly man right now.
01:07:40
>> Shaking.
01:07:41
>> Two.
01:07:42
>> Three.
01:07:43
>> Four.
01:07:45
>> Five. Six. Seven.
01:07:47
>> No pauses.
01:07:48
>> Eight.
01:07:49
>> Nailing it.
01:07:49
>> Nine. 10. Perfect.
01:07:52
>> Perfect.
01:07:52
>> Get the oxygen.
01:07:54
>> It was fantastic. It was very, very
01:07:56
strict. And what was good about it was
01:07:59
that your body stayed absolutely flat,
01:08:01
right? You did you didn't buckle in with
01:08:04
the at the waistline like a lot of
01:08:06
people do and stuff like that.
01:08:07
>> You got to keep your glutes on.
01:08:09
>> You just stay with like a board straight
01:08:11
totally flat.
01:08:12
>> That's the greatest disciplined.
01:08:13
>> Yes.
01:08:14
>> Yeah.
01:08:14
>> So that's what I do. And I do lat pulls.
01:08:17
I do stuff for the back.
01:08:18
>> Yeah. Yeah.
01:08:19
>> And um mobility is all the rage now.
01:08:22
>> I think it's it's great.
01:08:23
>> Hip mobility.
01:08:24
>> Yeah.
01:08:25
>> All right. All right. Well, good job.
01:08:26
>> Anyway, good good to see you guys with
01:08:29
the book. It's great.
01:08:29
>> Thank you. Thank you for your help with
01:08:31
the book and all that stuff. I really
01:08:32
appreciate that.
01:08:33
>> The book is great.
01:08:34
>> And we will stay in touch.
01:08:35
>> Of course. Always fun to write.
01:08:37
>> We will work together again.
01:08:38
>> That would be great.
01:08:39
>> Something.
01:08:39
>> Let's do something.
01:08:40
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