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because I I I was the flavor that they were looking for. Sort of like a ghetto hood.
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Yeah. You know, I I had working against that because, you know, my acting teachers when I was 17, they were all like, "Uh,
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no one can understand you with that accent. Do you really speak that way?" And, uh,
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good god talk like, you know, I was like, "D." I was like, "Dad, yo, man. What you want? What you need from me? I'll be right there for you, bro. What's up?" You
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know, I was I used like that. It was so dope because they thought it was going to be a bomb. They thought Ice Age was
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going to be a serious bomb. They had closed down Fox uh animation cuz they
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thought it was over. Like, I'm not joking. They thought it was over. There was no merchandise, no advertising. This
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[ __ ] a blew up. Cut the balls. Work the
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shaft. Cut the ball. That's right out of my playbook.
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All right. We have a gentleman on here. Uh Mhm. Well, you're a you're a gentleman, but so is
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our our guests. Yeah, I'm a gent. I was in a club in high school called
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gents. I would Would you like to be referred to as a gent or a class act? David Spade.
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He's a gent. David Spade. He's a class act. Most David Spade is a buffoon.
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But that's that's common now. You're called a buffoon. You know, my last name is Spade. You know this, right? So it's not showbiz,
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it's very real. So when I played tennis in high school, I always wanted to be called the spade of ace. That was like
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in the nickname like in the sawarro saber cap paper like spade of ace wins
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again. But the only thing that caught on was pinky dick.
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[Music] I don't want how did how how did this turn? How were
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you not named ace of middle name? Of ace of spades.
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I don't I don't know how people miss me. My middle name could have been UV H of spade.
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But we're not here to talk about that. We're not here to talk about that. Let's We're here to talk about John Legazamo.
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John Legazamo. And he's a good dude. I've met probably very briefly in the past, but very aware
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of him. you know, being in the comedy world and someone's out there doing one man shows. He was
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ruling HBO there for a while. He does a new show, John like Zamo does America
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and he gets into a lot of very interesting things. You know, he's just in a different world than us. We're just
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straight standups and he's like a one-man performer. Yeah. Oneman shows and yeah, he's been
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he's been a fixture. I'm just going to use the word fixture in American entertainment, theater, movies,
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television. Yeah, he works. Two Wong Fu, remember that one with Patrick Sees?
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Patrick Sees and who else is Oh, Wesley Snipes, I think. Anyway, very interesting movie in in the day probably
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20 years ago, but he's always uh sort of pushing the envelope and doing things. So, yeah, very cool.
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Great to have a chat with this dude and here he is right now. John Legazamo,
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it happened to me when I was doing smart list. They said download Chrome an hour later with two guys on the thing and
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finally punt it. Not gonna happen. Yeah. Did it later. But yeah, I got on Zoom. That was good. That was
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like school. What's wrong with Zoom? Zoom never hurt anyone. I know. Everyone hate it.
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Yeah, they [ __ ] hate it. Why do people hate Zoom? Why are they hating on Zoom? There's no need to be hating on Zoom.
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None. Zoom got us here. Zoom. No need to be
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hating on Zoom. I mean, I can run, right? Zoom got us like we don't have to
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go meet directors in person anymore. We don't have to talk to anybody in person
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anymore. I mean, Zoom saved our, you know, our lack of When I when I talk to directors, I go,
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can I just not get the job from here? And they're like, yeah, we'll just say no here if you want to have a fake
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meeting. I go, I do want the fake meeting, but then afterwards, like the free food. I'm not gonna lie. I
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like the free food. And if I'm a big fan of the director, I like meeting them in person so I can just that brag. You know what I mean?
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What's What's that like being in person? I mean, what happens? You go you see him in a room or I I I'm just on virtual.
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So, no. I mean, like I I just met Chris Nolan for the Odyssey. We met We met at
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the Audon, you know, the big uh uh ' 90s Hollywood New York uh restaurant. And we
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for two hours. We chatted, talked about life, his biography, mine, and then I
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did the Odyssey. Well, wait a minute. First of all, he's a genius. That's a huge, huge, huge movie.
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That's not just a regular director to me. I mean, my god, Dunkirk, Interstellar. I mean, what is Odyssey
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about? I've heard about it. But what is it about? And what are you doing in it? Not allowed to say a lot, but I'll try
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to talk Okay, I see. ground it, but I can, you know, obviously the Odyssey, the Homer
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800 BC uh piece, he's doing it period and Matt Damon's in it and Tom Holland
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and Anne Hathaway, Robert Patson, an incredible cast, and it's period. It's a
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beautiful I mean, he's a visionary. I mean, that I mean, if I would have done it on Zoom, it would have been all
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right. I mean, I was still I still got the part, but it being in person to be to have that
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that sort of um vibrations happen between you and it's wild. I mean, it's
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a big difference. Well, it's like being on a date, it's different just talking, but when you get in the same room, you go, I can get a
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feel for someone. I can, you know, there's You're right. There's a vibe, there's energy, there's something going on or not going on. And if you get
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pick as opposed to like having it there in person. Exactly.
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I always have one ready for a director in case it comes up. Yeah. But you you're just meeting,
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right? You were just You don't Do you audition anymore? I mean, you've done a hundred movies from what I understand.
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Minimum. Oh, yeah. Yeah. I've done I I I
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don't audition. I don't audition, but I do have to meet. Yeah, that's fair. Meet up with people. I I think I guess
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especially like Nolan has an incredible um [ __ ] limit. So no, he doesn't he
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wants to meet people to just to vet the [ __ ] He doesn't want to work with people who are and that's my new [ __ ]
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barometer. I you know you get to a certain age I just don't want to deal with [ __ ] [ __ ] or Yeah.
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or egoomaniacs or sociopaths. I just don't want to do that anymore. No. I I think you get to a certain point in
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your career like Nolan where he can pick and choose and on the way up you do have
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to work with [ __ ] That's just for all of us. That's just the way it is. And then a certain at at some if things are going good enough, you get to say,
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"I don't want to do that when I've heard they're a drag." Or, you know, have a meeting and say, "Are you a [ __ ] drag or not? Because I can't do this. It's so
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hard anyway." Oh my god, it's so true. Are you going to be a [ __ ] pain in my ass? It's the
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most miserable experience I've ever had. Or you going to play ball and and make me shine, [ __ ] Mhm.
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The biggest one is when you realize the director resents you because the studio forced you on them and they hate you the
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entire time and are really actively trying to sabotage you. Have you had that, Joan?
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No, I've never had that. I'm not at that level, but I I've seen it happen. I've
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seen it several times when when the director wanted a real artist,
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you know, like studio didn't want to go. They wanted to go with some name
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star. Yeah. Yeah. But I I wouldn't even say star. What they consider a name maybe a lot of followers, which doesn't lead to good
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acting. I don't know how you get good acting from just having a lot of followers, but you know how the [ __ ] the this the
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studio system is. You know, I I had a meeting, John, where they said, "You're kind of a name and you have a lot of followers, but you're
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not talented." I go, "Listen, we're not going to get everything, so let's just do this." Two out of three is is
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it's not Meatloaf said it. You're not funny. You can't act can't
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sing. But those Instagram followers. Wow. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's that's the
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majority of that talent pool. Not to diss them, but to diss them. Yeah. Or they say we get a big star and
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surround them with Tik Tockers, right? that tricky for formula of like
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you have this demo, they have this demo and together it will collapse basically. It makes no sense.
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I mean it makes no sense. Talent is talent for a reason and and influencers
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I mean I it's a necessity of our our modern world but not
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something I go to. I have a quick question. When you were younger, weren't you in regarding Henry?
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Oh, you got to bring that up, didn't you? Is that bad? Bring it down. Well, you know,
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it I I I was kind of humiliated by it. I mean, I did it only because I wanted because I got no jobs. I mean, there
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were no jobs for Latin folk. They just weren't I mean, I don't know if you remember the Ross report because that's
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how desperate I was. I would get the Ross report. Yeah. Which managers and agents got,
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okay, but so because there was no opportunities. So you would get it every Monday and they would list everything
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that was available in movie and television, every role, but it was like Jim Crow. I'm not gonna lie. It was like
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white doctor, white lawyer, white husband, white lover, Latino drug dealer.
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And and I would ask my agent, "Please, can they see me? I want to do my my monologue from David Mamemoth, sexual
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person, Chicago. Please, they'll fall in love me. They would they wouldn't even see you. So, you know, you you had to be
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mad resourceful. It just had to be to try to get in in that room with folks. Well, did Freddy what did Freddy Prince
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mean to you if anything? Or Paul Rodriguez because when I came up I always thought it was kind of weird. Oh, there's a Latino comic and there's one
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of them or two, you know? Uh, but he was a force of nature. Were you a in your
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formative years when Freddy was around? Oh, yeah. I mean, I I mean, he he's way older than I am, but as a kid to watch
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him on and Chico and the man was like, my god, the only Latino on television at
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the time, I mean, we had Dez Ares, but he was in the 50s. You know, they say every two decades, we'll throw
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one out there. Yeah, that's the thing is that when I saw Chico and the Man, I guess as a kid, it was just another
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funny show. So, I would have thought looking back, hey, maybe they should
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give more the uh Latinos a chance because this one's working really well. This this show is very funny. It fit
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right in. No one said a word. It was just like, oh, another funny show without even separating it. It was like,
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hey, whoever's funny, throw them out there cuz talent is talented. People care whether you're black, Latino. They just
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want to see great shows, but they just weren't casting us. So, when I got regarding Henry, it was a drug dealer. I
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shoot this white guy and it was like, "Oh my god, I'm perpetrating what what they want to see, which is negative
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Latino images." And I didn't want to participate in that, but I really wanted to meet Mike Nichols because he's one of the
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greats. I mean, he's Virginia Wolf, The Graduate, Carninal Knowledge, some of my
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favorite films. Yeah, I did it because of that. But then, you know, there I am with my a my sloppy fro
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and I'm in the drugstore. I mean, in the Bodega and Harrison Ford and I and
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I'm robbing the place. Oh, even talking about it just gives me PT, right? And I I'm sorry about that. I
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just sort of was like Harrison Ford, Mike Nichols. I was looking at that angle like to be on a set with them when
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you're younger must have been in some ways other than what you're describing. Obviously, it's kind of a sore subject,
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but just interesting to see them on a real set and how it works. Oh, yeah. Of course. to me just to be
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anywhere near Mike Nichols. And Harrison Ford is always when he sees me, he's so lovely, you know, and I'm like, "Oh,
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wow. That's he's such a great dude to be around these folks, you know." But I I love Harry Ford. I do. I really I I
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enjoy Harry Ford and Mikey Nichols both. You're the guy from the bodega.
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Did anyone ever say to you, John, can you Latin up a little more? Did they ever like
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Yeah. Yeah. didn't have to say that to me as much because I I I was the flavor that they
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were looking for. Sort of like a ghetto hood. Yeah. You know, I had working against that
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because, you know, my acting teachers when I was 17, they were all like, "Uh, no one can understand you with that
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accent. Do you really speak that way?" And uh, good God, talk like, you know, I was like, "D, I
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would like that. Yo, man, what you want? What you need from me? I'll be right there for you, bro. What's up?" You know, I would I talk like that. And I
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don't you don't really hear that anymore. They go, "That's what we're looking for. That's That's our man right
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there." Yeah. They totally understand, man. This is the person that I'd be confident.
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You play the Spanish squirrel in Ice Age.
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What's going on? By the way, very funny. What? What is a sloth?
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A sloth. Dude, Sage is a killer.
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I did research. I did research and because I give the guy like a thousand voices. I like and I was like, "What if
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he's from Sasha Station and he talk like this?" And he said, "No. What if he's from the deep deep south and he talk
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like he goes nah." I said, "What if what if he's hood and talk like this?" He said, "Nah." So I I did research on the
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Discovery Channel and I got all this footage on on sloths and they store the food in the cheek pouch, you know, and
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and and it ferment. And so I Oh, great. And I was like, "Oh my god, this this is
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my character. This is it." And it's a hit. Yeah. Iceage is such a smash. That's
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great. My celebrity worth. It's 90% of your celebrity on Google.
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I'm fascinated by celebrity net worth. Not that. But what did you get for the first Ice Age? What percentage more did
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you get for the sequel? Was that It was dope. It was so dope because they thought it was going to be a bomb. They
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thought Ice Age was going to be a serious bomb. They had closed down Fox uh animation because they thought it was
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over. Like I'm not joking. They thought it was over. There was no merchandise, no advertising. This [ __ ] became a nut.
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It would blew up. It was so huge. And and then when they wanted to come
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back for us for number two, we got I took them to the cleaners.
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Yeah. The best position to be in. Did you actually indicate to them that
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this is my number or I don't do the sequel? Cuz your character was essential at that point, I believe.
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Oh, yeah. You know, we we negotiated hard, man. I got I bought a country house. I I bought a massive apartment. I
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bought a pool. Good God. Jesus. I bought a pool. Do you have any idea of any animated
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movies that are coming out? No. I'll I'll somewhere in my mouth. I'll talk like whatever they want. I mean, you
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know, anyway, just if you have anything, just DM me. I'll keep an eye out. Listen, I'm waiting for Hotel
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Transennsylvania 5. Oo. Yeah. when they get up there. How much How much does that bring you,
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bro? Uh, I got a waiting pool. Uh, blow a pool. Uh, but I
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waiting for a pool. No, I think by five I should get a pool. Uh, it was Listen, it's very it's a very
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fair paycheck. Uh, fair. I mean, not it's not fair to the real world, but it's great. And then it usually goes up
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increments. I'm not as crucial as you would be in Ice Age, but it's really fun
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to be a part of it also in the way that when I see kids, it's a good relatable
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thing because they see them. But dude, I get the I get the for me it's a weird experience when I meet the
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kids cuz parents come up to me and they go, "Oh, hey, my I'm a huge fan of vices. Can I introduce you to my son?" I
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go, "Yo, it's not going to go really well because it'll ruin scare them almost like that." And that voice is and they really
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relate. And then the parents come up and and I go to the kids and I go, "Hi, how's it going?" And the kids are like
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horrified. Oh, I know. I don't song and dance explaining to the child
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so they're not traumatized for the rest. Yeah. They don't get it and they don't they don't love it. That's true. It's
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better. It's better on the phone. They don't love it. It's It's fascinating. And And I I can understand
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it. I mean, I'm not I wouldn't force myself, you know, on these poor kids. I'm like, "Please don't do this to
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them." Does Ice Age have a ride? Are you a ride and a ride yet? Uh, I know. I know. Kto Bruno does a
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ride cuz that's Disney. You know what I mean?
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Disney. Yeah. Yeah. Bruno and KTO is Disney. Sorry, that's another animated. Oh, and Kanto and KTO.
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We don't talk about Bruno. The biggest hit song that Disney has ever had.
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Yeah. Dana. Oh, yeah. Oh, bro. Thank you, John, for explaining it.
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No. Um, let me see. I have more questions for just most talkative. I love that in
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school. Yeah, chatter box high school. Chatter boxes, too.
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I I think I was because I was in a bad sort of area where I I think I read you
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felt like you might get beat up when you were growing up. And I was in the same if that's true. I was in an area that
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was and I was a little pipsqueak, which you would never believe, but and I wasn't as tough as I am now with these
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quads and how I work out all the time. So, I would just go to school and go,
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I'm going to get beat up today or pushed into a wall. And so, I would try to joke my way out of it. And I and also my dad
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had taken off. And I think when I look back, I'm trying to joke around and make friends because sort of to get some
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happy stuff going just to talk and talk and have fun. Oh my god. That's kind of like me. It
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was like my my house was really difficult. My house situation was there was a lot of aggression and violence. My
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dad basically would edit out the humor out of the home movies.
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It was like there was a a fun free zone in my house. So, I was always trying to bring humor and light and life to every
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situation. Plus, my neighbor was really tough, so I was always fighting all the time. Let me correct, not fighting. I
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was getting beat up. Thank you. I fought a few times, but not not a lot.
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But, uh, I did have a good right right punch and and I could knock people out, but I got beat up a lot. Yeah, it was it
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tough school. I got people took my lunch money. They would pick on my brother, so I'd have to try to defend my brother,
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too. So yeah, there was a lot of fighting going on at home and and on the streets which prepare me for Hollywood.
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Hollywood ain't got [ __ ] They can't take me down. They never me. I'm in Yeah, I'm invincible now.
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You try to keep it light at school. Try to keep things fun because you want to be like valuable as funny so you don't
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get beat up all the time. So you're like, "We like this guy. He's kind of a clown." Yeah. That that was my angle. Like just leave
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me alone. I'll joke around with everyone. I'll stay out of your way. But I didn't back down though. That was my problem. I I I did I didn't have that
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thing that I could back down if people cornered me. I wanted Yeah. I don't know. I needed to I I guess I had a lot
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of aggression and anger. So, I I needed to get it out. I do have that thing. So, I do back down
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easily. Uh Dana, I we all have similar childhoods. It was
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not not fun at home. There was a monster in the neighborhood. In the neighborhood, there was a monster, a
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scary monster. And then and the monster was my dad. So,
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how is he a monster? Um, you know, if you he would if you did
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something he didn't like. There were five kids, you know, he'd gather everyone around. You'd have to go get his belt and then he would snap it, you
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know, snap that belt and then he'd have to grab your ankles and then he would ask your siblings how many lashes and
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then it he'd just whail on you. Yeah. But I learned to be like a mouse. I learned to be, you know, not seen or
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heard because of the threat of violence. So anyway, I I kind of concur with you. I'm only fascinated that you had a right
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hand that could knock people out. I just need to know how old were were you in like fifth grade knocking people out or
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No, no. I I I was 13. Uh 14. Yeah. No, no, no, no. I mean, the fights that I
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had before were like stupid little kid fights, you know? You just whail on each other, you know, like that kind of
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fight, right? Sure. No, but then by the time I got 13, you know, I hung out with some tough kids who would protect me because
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I make them laugh. So, I hang out with them and I do their homework, too, because I was a ghetto nerd. So, they
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would protect me. But then I got, you know, I got I think I think I I had so much rage and fear when
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kids, some kids would corner me and try to beat me up. I would talk a lot. I'll go, "Hey, dude, I'm sorry." And I'd look
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down and I'd be like, "I'm so sorry I didn't." And then I'd sucker punch him and knock him out with one punch.
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[ __ ] I I like that. That's, you know, I was kind of a puss, so I didn't get that and I just had the rage build up and it
00:24:02
just stayed so my neck hurts. Um, other than that, um, wait, I want to hear a
00:24:09
little bit about Legos on America because I also want to ask about some other movies, too. But can you tell us a little bit about that right now?
00:24:16
Yeah, you know, uh, our first season was at MSNBC, number one original show for the last three years. So, we got a
00:24:22
season two out of it. And basically I go around the country looking for Latin excellence, Latin brilliance, Latin
00:24:27
genius, Latin ingenuity and I celebrate it, you know, and I go to six different cities every year. And uh, you know,
00:24:34
last season I went to LA, New York, Miami, Chicago, the big Latin places, right? And then this time I went to Raleigh,
00:24:43
people down there, and no, New Orleans, Nola, uh, San Antonio, obviously a big
00:24:48
Latin population there. and uh Phoenix and Denver and Philadelphia.
00:24:54
[ __ ] Yeah. I'm from Arizona. So, when you go to somewhere like that, do you have like a crew you kind of scout out
00:24:59
or do you kind of walk out in the world and just start talking to people or how does it work? Oh, no. No. It's it's it's very heavily
00:25:06
planned. Okay. Uh you know, I have a great team.
00:25:11
My director Ben Jesus, my my showrunner Ko Sedra, and uh you know, and then
00:25:17
producers for each segment. And you know, we find the best people and then we walk and we do all these, you know,
00:25:23
like uh like an Anthony Bourdain but of Latino culture. Okay. Oh.
00:25:28
What have you doing this show? Has there been surprises to you or or or experiences of learning or or is you're
00:25:35
just showcasing people uh from a lot of a lot of learning is happening
00:25:40
for me. Yeah. I mean, when we Philadelphia, I learned that, you know, uh, you know, it's it's a big center of
00:25:46
American uh, the colonies in the nation. And I learned that 10,000 unknown Latino
00:25:53
patriots fought in the American Revolution. And then I I went home when I got that news and I started reading it
00:25:59
and researching and I I re I found out that there were 80,000 troops. And then
00:26:04
I realized we were one in eight. We were one in eight. And then Juendi Maras
00:26:09
funded George Washington. They had a bromance and he gave him $2 million from Cuba, Mexico, and Spain. General
00:26:16
Bernardo Galves got a army of 3,000 Puerto Ricans, Cubans, Mexicans, Native Americans, and freed slaves. And they
00:26:22
kicked the British all out of the South. So they couldn't ambush the New England patriots, the the revolutionaries, not
00:26:29
the football team. Okay. Not the team. Okay. That's interesting. Yeah. Yeah. Well, I very interesting. Is the
00:26:36
Alamo a sore point for people from Latin America? Because it's kind of like John Wayne did the movie and remember the
00:26:42
Alamo but from the other side of the fence. Is it? Yeah. I mean being a Latin person and
00:26:49
Yeah. It is kind of uh because you know all these Latin people it was first of
00:26:55
all it was Mexico and and Latin for like ever and then we let all these white people come in thinking that you know
00:27:01
maybe we could the people in Texas could become a country on their own and they would ban and so they worked
00:27:08
with the Texans the whatever the the the white people that started coming in there and they freed themselves from
00:27:14
Mexico but then the Texans turned on them and took their you know their their land, their political power,
00:27:22
uh, and then started massacring and lynching all the Latin people there. So, the John Wayne movie wasn't a fan
00:27:29
favorite of yours or you know, I didn't know, but I was rooting against myself.
00:27:35
You like Yeah. Well, until you know something, it's hard to uh John I bet you, Dana, I bet you do the
00:27:43
killer. Yeah. Dana, where's your John? What? Duke. Come on. Hey.
00:27:49
All right. Here's my John Wayne. Yeah. John Wayne uh and Walter Brennan. The
00:27:54
The thing I do like about John Wayne is not that he had no fear. He was furious
00:28:01
at the idea that anyone else would have any fear. So, you know. Well, let's
00:28:06
attack him, Papy. No, Duke. There's 10,000 of them and 40 of us. Duke, we're going to die. I said attack, Papy.
00:28:14
You'll attack when I tell you. Don't make me do what I did last time.
00:28:21
What was that? What he do? What are you doing? You got That's how he ends it. He never says, "No, everyone goes, "Oh, [ __ ] I don't
00:28:27
want to hang." Let me do one more and then I want to ask you about your very first standup
00:28:33
bit because this is one of my earliest standup bits. I would say Lucio Ball in 1952. Oh, Ricky. Lucio Ball today.
00:28:42
Well, oh wait, no, sorry. Sorry. It goes like this. goes John Wayne 1952. Well, let's go over the ridge. John Wayne
00:28:49
today. Well, well, let's go over the ridge. Lucio Ball 52. Let's go. Come on,
00:28:56
Ricky. Lucio Ball today. Well, let's go Ricky. I didn't do it very well, but it
00:29:02
killed. It sounds like it's there's something there and we're still going to work. It always killed. So, your first standup
00:29:09
bit that really worked for you,
00:29:14
you have 5 seconds. Oh, [ __ ] Uh, you have 25 seconds. You know, I was part of First Amendment
00:29:21
Comedy Troop where Bruce Willis used to come in New York City and Robin Williams come down. Rest in peace. And I was part
00:29:28
of the seat company. And uh, the great thing about it, there was a lot of cute women and and and
00:29:35
that was Comedy was wonderful back then for me. And uh yeah.
00:29:42
When when was was it Mambo Mount? That wasn't your first one, was it? That was my first oneman show in 1990.
00:29:49
Okay. Because I remember hearing about that. Was that HBO? Yeah. Then it went to HBO, but it I was doing it in in the performance art
00:29:55
spaces downtown. And then I did it at the American Place Theater where Sam Shepard, Arthur Miller, Al Pacino,
00:30:03
George PL, I don't know if you all remember who he was, John F. Jr., rest in peace, all came
00:30:09
down and were in my tiny tiny theater, bro. I had 70 foldup seats because they
00:30:17
would lift my little tiny platform out of the way for the real show. I wasn't
00:30:23
even a real show. I was like a sideline. So, they all came down and watched you
00:30:28
do that. How cool. And so, HBO hears about this. You get some buzz and that's how they come in and they Yeah. Yeah.
00:30:34
Like they hear about a stand. They hear about something and they want to see what's going on. So, they throw it on HBO. And that must have blown you up a
00:30:39
little bit, right? What happened then after that was I wasn't in tiny spaces anymore. Now I was
00:30:44
in big ass theaters traveling around the country and especially because Latin people now found me because they were
00:30:50
getting the bootleg HBO. They couldn't afford regular HBO. Yeah,
00:30:55
I know. I know. Because everybody told me I got the bootleg and I was like, "Oh, great. I didn't get it from um but
00:31:03
yeah then I then all a sudden we met each other and it was beautiful man it was like religion I mean I think my
00:31:08
audiences have always kind of kept me going against all odds you know cuz you
00:31:15
know we land people at 20% of the US population but less than 3% of the leads
00:31:20
in in Hollywood less than 0% of the executives are stories being told it's just it's so crazy you know but that's
00:31:31
27% of the population. Oh, really? You'd be a good executive actually.
00:31:38
Dana, yes. Would you be would you be uh Lucille Ball as an executive or John?
00:31:46
Well, John Luzo. Well, he does the oneman shows. Just him
00:31:53
all the time. Papy. Is he good, Duke? I I He gets Emmy nominations and all kinds of stuff. Well, I don't know. Papy,
00:32:00
don't make me do what I did last time. Sorry. That's what you do last time.
00:32:06
Yeah. What the You got me again. You're the only one who lied to my John Wayne. That's what I'll take.
00:32:11
I like it, too. I like the Lucio ballpart better. Well, I I don't know. I'm available for parties or whatever, you know.
00:32:18
Lucy, don't do that to me. You got a lot of Let me ask you a question about Sorry to
00:32:24
interrupt. Desi Ares Jr. This is supposedly a a thing I heard from a crew guy that you know he liked the ladies
00:32:31
and Lucy and the marriage and the whole thing and she's wandering around in this backstage in the studio. Ricky, Ricky,
00:32:39
she comes along, sees him up in the slats, up in the whatever, and a woman is performing oral sex on him. He sees
00:32:46
Lucy and goes, "Get out of here, man. What are you doing? What are you doing?" He's pretending he's being attacked by
00:32:52
the woman. Get away from me. What are you doing? What are you going? That's what I heard from a guy who was on the
00:32:58
crew. Could that be true? Be true. Have you heard the one about Stallone that he left the the speaker on
00:33:05
in the trailer and and Oh, he was miked. And he was like And he was like, "Yeah,
00:33:11
yeah." And he was going, "Cut the balls. Work the shaft. Cup the balls."
00:33:17
That's right out of my playbook. Hey, you know what I'm talking about.
00:33:23
Yeah. Good morning. It's It's good technique. I mean, uh,
00:33:28
it's functional. People don't know outside of Hollywood, you have a mic on, a lavalier mic, and you don't turn it off sometimes.
00:33:34
Yeah. And a lot of a lot of bad stuff can happen with that. But I've not They always say they can't they can't hear you when you walk away from the
00:33:40
set. I go, that's the biggest lie. I would just listen to people. That would be so fun. They always go, once you get to this, I
00:33:47
go, I'm having a meeting. I don't want to take all this off. Can you just turn it off? They go, sure.
00:33:52
Yeah. that happened with with uh Betty Davis, the director, I can't remember what his name is right now, worked
00:33:57
really hard to get her into uh I think was it Jezebel, one of those big southern ones.
00:34:02
Then she left her mic on it and she was telling the producers to fire him that she couldn't stand the director.
00:34:08
Oh my god, that's what happened. Alec Baldwin and Kim Baser were That's the worst. Either fighting or getting it on or
00:34:15
something in a car like between takes. I mean, I think Carrie Grant, his was
00:34:20
on, he was doing North by Northwest, you know, and he was with the producers and he said, "I don't believe it. Hitchcock
00:34:27
is a hack. He couldn't direct him way out of a paper bag. Get that dumpy freak
00:34:32
out of here. No more Hitchcock for me." You know, I knew that set you into a bit. That was just too much of a
00:34:38
Nobody Nobody does uh, you know, Carrie Grant anymore. Nobody wants to do it.
00:34:43
Nobody wants to even think about it. There I've got John Wayne. Okay, here's my last one. Only only from John.
00:34:50
Here's my last one and it's the worst one. This is Madonna on the last day of her 180 city tour
00:34:58
holiday. That's it cuz she's her her voice is
00:35:05
Dana. You still have No, it's the same joke. But I very much Lucille Ball. You can have it.
00:35:10
You're my friend. If we took a holiday. Good night. [ __ ] it. That's the last show. No, cuz I
00:35:15
heard a video of her in Japan and when she was singing Holiday, she was bottomed out a little bit. But listen,
00:35:21
let's not over talk about how good that impression is.
00:35:26
I want to know from Look at all my notes on John. I want to know when you did
00:35:32
Romeo and Juliet, was Theo coming off of like Titanic? Was Was Leo huge at that
00:35:38
point? No, this was before Titanic. Oh [ __ ] Was it? Yeah. Yeah, but he was living large. I
00:35:44
mean, I don't want to speak out of turn or, you know, go ahead. But we were living large. We were living crazy. I mean, we were in Mexico City
00:35:51
and, you know, he had a crew. All it was a lot of male actors and we were just we
00:35:56
was just acting like old Hollywood. Yeah, I'm sure. You can leave it at that. Nobody does that anymore. You can't do
00:36:03
You shouldn't shouldn't be doing that. Good. I like that you added that. You should not be doing that. Yeah, we not quite sure what you're
00:36:09
talking about, but anyway. Was Leo did Leo have a vibe then? Did you think, "Hey, that kid's going to be a superstar
00:36:15
or he was just another so good in the movie, man." And he was amazing like as as as another
00:36:23
actor, you know, there are actors that are really mad, selfish, and they just take care of themselves and they walk off. They don't even try to hang or or
00:36:29
even do off camera is a lot of actors will walk off. He would give the same or better performance off camera for us and
00:36:39
I was it was so generous and so beautiful and he was incredible. The kid was incredible and he he like gathered
00:36:46
all the actor. He's only 19 and he brought us all together. I was almost 30 and the other actors were like in their
00:36:53
late 20s. Dash my hawk. Uh I can't remember all the other actors because
00:36:58
I'm old. Who else was there? Claire Danes was Juliet. She was 16. She was mad young. She didn't hang with us.
00:37:04
Did you see the movie Titanic with Leo? I didn't see it. I don't see commercial
00:37:10
movies. Yeah, good job. Okay. I was just curious because there was a problem I have with the movie. It's brilliant. But
00:37:16
ask me. Well, when the ship is going down, you know, it's Jack and Rose are the
00:37:22
characters. He's Jack. And they say each other's names uh over and over again
00:37:27
throughout the whole going running around the ship. You know, Rose. Rose, Jack, Jack, you know, I mean, every
00:37:34
Jack, go this way. Rose, come over here. It's never Hey, you or let's go. They say Rose or Jack like 200 times. Just I
00:37:41
watch a lot of movies. I like that observation. I watch too many movies. Wait, you wanted them to just go hey.
00:37:47
Well, just don't I'd be like me saying John. Uh, David. Hey, John. David.
00:37:53
David. It was a bit much. It's kind of like bad writing. like you like you want to you want to get your
00:37:59
character names in early and then but I want to ask you because uh what
00:38:06
movies blow your mind I mean what do you what what is what are your favorites and what are your favorite directors I I
00:38:12
just curious oh I'm I'm a cophile uh so I like a lot of old amazing movies like Carl Dryer's
00:38:20
Jon of Arc it's an amazing movie silent film uh
00:38:25
where he took the actual transcripts of the lawyers from the 1400s
00:38:31
and turned it into a movie. And then his first movie because it was made from nitroglycerin, the film back then, it
00:38:36
blew up. So he had to take go back into the editing room and take all his B sides and reconstruct the whole entire
00:38:43
movie. It's amazing. That's the kind of [ __ ] I like. Literally silent films. You're going way
00:38:49
back films. Great films. Ouys, [Music]
00:38:56
you know, Pellini, Pasalini, all the enies. All the eies,
00:39:01
all theies, spagotini. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. What What's the wor white worst um
00:39:08
example of whitewashing out there? Oh, wow. Um, I'm sure there's a hand
00:39:14
period pieces that you know I was I was pitching a lot in Latin period pieces because I had a lot of great stories and they kept telling me, "No, John, sorry.
00:39:22
We're not doing any period stuff." And then all of a sudden the crowd comes out. All of a sudden, a thousand period
00:39:29
pieces with only white folk comes out. And I was like, but then you know here here that's why
00:39:37
Nolan is such a visionary. I mean, Lupita goes in it. I'm in it. Uh Corey
00:39:43
Hawkins is in it. Zena is in it. I mean, you can do period and have people of
00:39:49
color. We've been here for, you know, for hundreds and thousands of years.
00:39:54
It works. It doesn't have to be just a a whites only show. You know what I mean?
00:39:59
Well, Odyssey seems like it's going to be a monster. I think a lot of people looking forward to that. If it's I'm going
00:40:08
to see that. Got to see his movies. If it's stolen, I'm going. If it's Nolan, I'm going.
00:40:14
If it's stayed, I'll stay away. No, no, that's not a saying. That's a joke.
00:40:20
That's something that happens, but it's not a common saying. Uh, well, let me see. We've got Dana. Anything else for
00:40:26
this lovely young man? Did you do anything with Arnold Schwarzenegger? Yeah. Yeah, I loved Arnold. I did this
00:40:33
terrible movie called Collateral. It wasn't terrible. Collateral. Not not I think you know I
00:40:40
think I either the collateral damage I did the one with Arnold not the one with Tom Cruz. Oh yeah that was collateral I think
00:40:45
collateral damage. Yeah I was I was it was between me and Jamie Fox with the Tom Cruz one but I I messed
00:40:52
up my fourth call back. Ah so I Arnold I ended up with Arnold the
00:40:57
consolation prize. I did the other Okay. How did he how did he pronounce your name?
00:41:03
He didn't pronounce my name. He didn't call me by my name. He go, "Hey, John, come." Oh, he never tried because I just
00:41:09
thought his accent with your last name would have I love the way I mean he's so he's so fun, man. He's a funny ass dude. He had
00:41:17
me rolling all the time. Like he's a he's a crazy funny guy. He's the most positive gym. He let me use his gym. I go, "Come
00:41:23
on. Are you kidding me?" Do some flies. Yeah. All All the ways are so massive. I
00:41:30
couldn't pick anything up. I was like, I'll just stand in the corner and look because
00:41:37
Yeah, John, no offense, but you're a little bit of a girly man. You know, your arms are puny, like little chicken
00:41:43
sticks. Your buttocks are like marshmallows. You're lucky I don't have a campfire
00:41:48
here. Keep me nude. Boy, you have such a resume. I I I'm
00:41:56
blown away by how much you've done and how varied it is. And you're still going full boore. It's amazing. We've not had
00:42:03
a guest like you with this many things. It's I can't even There's so much going on here. You're crazy.
00:42:08
That's what immigrants do. I work my ass off and
00:42:13
four jobs at the same time. Yeah, that's good. Yeah. You got two
00:42:18
Wong Fu, you've got it was who was it? Wesley Snipes. Yeah, Wesley Snipes. And and rest in
00:42:25
peace Patrick Sees. Patrick Sees. Okay, that's right. Mhm. and the original ahead of its time.
00:42:30
The original way ahead of it Yeah, that was that was bold. That was a bold move for by you guys.
00:42:36
Oh my god. Especially for the two of them because they were action stars. Yeah. For them to play um uh uh uh Drag Queen
00:42:43
is what we call them back then. That was a huge for me. Nobody really knew who I was. So for me it was just I got to
00:42:49
steal this movie from them. That was my only objective.
00:42:55
Yeah, I think you did look exceptionally good in drag.
00:43:01
It's shocking. You don't know how good a guy will look in drag and some look horrible and some look great as a girl.
00:43:07
It's crazy. Can't really predict it. I mean, well, you know, Wesley was still
00:43:12
working out. I stopped working out like six months before the movie and went vegetarian so I could lose all my muscle
00:43:18
and it just makes a difference. You know, I committed like crazy to it. I wanted it right and yeah I want to steal the mood from them.
00:43:25
That's smart. When I go to a movie I don't do anything ahead of time. Then the day on the movie I go what's this
00:43:30
one and then I pick up the script then I look at it technique. That's something approaching
00:43:35
things. Yeah. Uh Brando would never he had lines everywhere. He'd have he'd open an
00:43:41
orange and read the line and Brando wanted to it's inside the orange. Yeah. It's inside the orange.
00:43:46
Don, come on. You got to have a Brando. Come on. I know you got to have Brando
00:43:51
out there. He worked hard enough at that point he just goes just make it easy on me. Come on. You an assassin. Everybody does that. I
00:43:59
mean, uh, Brando and Apocalypse now. Brando and Superman. The first original
00:44:04
Superman is sad. That was sad. But he got $8 million. He needed the cash for the
00:44:09
island day. Street carding desire on the
00:44:16
touch. Nobody can touch him. Stud. The way I got Trump initially was I did Brando and I mixed in Regis
00:44:22
Filman. Do it. Do it. Do it. Do each one. And then are you an assassin? What are you
00:44:28
talking about? You walk your way toward Reges a little bit. You do the two together and you got them here. We're
00:44:34
going to do a lot of good things. We're going to do amazing things. Are you ready for this? We're going blazed up.
00:44:40
Oh, that's fire. That's fire. It was I Everything was better when I
00:44:46
first did it, but anyway. Yeah, Super Mario Brothers is a classic, bro.
00:44:52
Super Mario Brothers 923. That was huge. Yeah. You know, was huge because the directors fought for me to be in the
00:44:59
movie because they didn't want me and they fought really hard. Adamabel Jangle and Rocky Morns them. And obviously me
00:45:06
and Hoskins don't share any DNA. We're playing it works.
00:45:14
What is your name? What are you doing in a [ __ ] movie? I don't know. Bob Hoskins is great.
00:45:20
Oh man, he he spoke cognney English, not he didn't speak the the king's English,
00:45:25
the queen, right? He get more sensation. All right, let's do
00:45:30
it. Was that around Roger Rabbit? It's just something you want to do with
00:45:36
me. You got pop me in a movie. Is that your idea on a [ __ ] movie? I needed
00:45:41
subtitles for when I talked them because I I was like, I can't I can't. Did Roger Rabbit ever come to the set?
00:45:48
No, that sucks. Who played Who played Roger Rabbit? Charles Fleer.
00:45:53
Yeah, you're right. Comic. Please, Eddie. What a
00:45:59
Yeah, that was a hit. [ __ ] a uh John, listen. It's called Thanks for talking to us, John. Uh, John Legazamo does
00:46:06
America. Mhm. And along with one million other things he's doing. MSNBC because I like specifics.
00:46:12
Yeah. Sunday. Sunday West Coast and 9:00 p.m. East Coast.
00:46:18
Yeah. Let's let Sean in. MSNBC. Yes. I just like because when people say they got a show, I go where?
00:46:23
What platform? Where are you? Say it. Make it easy. I don't mind plugging myself.
00:46:29
Of course. Why not? That's why we're here. You're the star of the show. I mean, you're the host. It's not like it's
00:46:35
John. Thank you, John. You're a good dude. And uh it's nice talking to you.
00:46:41
It was a blast, man. Great to see you. Thanks for laughing at my goofy old impressions. No, I love them, bro. I love them.
00:46:49
I hope we run into each other. I hope so, too. All right, Dana. So, we just hung up
00:46:54
with John. Uh y and it feel, you know, I feel like I had
00:46:59
met him in the old SNL days. I feel like cuz you know he was out there that was right around those HBO things and
00:47:05
I brought up Mamba Mouth because it was such a it was a big deal on HBO and a a lot of
00:47:11
people saw that thing. That was when HBO was you know HBO is really big now. Euphoria obviously White Lotus but HBO
00:47:18
was big. So you get a show on there and that must have blown him through the roof. That was that was Yeah. Everything was a
00:47:24
lot bigger then because there were less venues to do stuff. But yeah, that was big. And uh this was one of those things
00:47:29
where I didn't I'd never really met him or hung out with him. So it was he's a really uh fun guy. Got a big laugh and
00:47:36
uh you know he's he's uh he's he's uh I don't know. He's he's just a character.
00:47:42
He's part of Yeah. He's a charming dude. I got off on the wrong foot asking about regarding
00:47:47
Henry, but I was he understood Mike Nichols, Harrison Ford. How exciting.
00:47:54
I mean, he's a bad guy in a movie, but what a great movie. That was a big deal. I mean, I remember regarding Henry because later
00:48:01
when I ran into JJ Abrams, who wrote it, he had the he had the porn version in
00:48:06
his office called Regarding Heine, which if you get a chance, it didn't follow it didn't follow the
00:48:12
exact story perfectly, but close enough for me. Well, that doesn't sound like J.J.
00:48:19
Abrams, but maybe he's got a secret side. I don't know about No, someone gave it to him as a joke. They're like, you know, you're famous
00:48:26
when your movie gets turned into a porn. I think I don't think they do it anymore. That's Wayne and Gar are in a porn or
00:48:32
something. I don't remember. Sometime they take the title, you have a good title, you know, you have to have your ass licked park. You have to have like a
00:48:38
good title that kind of lends itself and basically it's a porn with a dinosaur in the background. You know,
00:48:44
they they don't they're not sticklers to the original script. Right. Right. So anyway,
00:48:51
yeah, you brought up uh Hank Ford or Harry Harry. Oh yeah, Hank Ford. What did I used to
00:48:57
say? Oh, this is too old of a movie. Bang the nun slowly. That was an old joke.
00:49:03
I knew two comedians who just went back and forth. It was part of their act. It was a kind of a
00:49:08
They do porn porn. They just do porn titles, uh fake porn titles back and forth. It's very exciting.
00:49:14
Anyway, back to John. He's done so many movies. I I heard he was Oh, I didn't ask about [ __ ] Carito's way. That's
00:49:21
what I want to ask. The Shawn Pennino. What a cool movie. I just didn't want to step in [ __ ] again. But I I I just
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remember Carito's Way. And Shawn Penn was so hilarious in it. It was such a cool movie. Shawn Penn is a is a brilliant
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character. We got to get Shawn on here. He loves putting a wig on an accent. I mean, he can
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He was such a sing in Carito's way. It was so Yeah, it was hilarious to watch. like a
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coke snorting lawyer or something. I don't. Anyway, I think people I hope you liked
00:49:51
it. John Legazamo and check out his show. Um the guy is a force to be
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reckoned with. He's he's out there and he's always working. I guess that the takeaway is like here's
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a guy who just started from where he started, scrambled for everything he got, and he still looks at it that way.
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It's still going for it. Yeah. you know, after a hundred movies. 100 movies and and you're and you're
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presently in a Chris Nolan movie. I mean, yeah, that's as good as it gets. Yeah.
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Yeah. So, anyway, all right. Thanks for watching, guys. Thanks for listening and uh we'll see you next time.
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Peace out. Peace out.
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