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so we just want to let you know that Danny DeVito who directed the movie Matilda the great Smash Hit from in the
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1990s is going to be in concert with the New Jersey Symphony March 22nd at the
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State Theater in New Brunswick and it's a beautiful theater I've played there before there's be a live Orchestra the
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movie with a beautiful print and you'll see it live and then Danny will narrate like he did in the movie live he'll be
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there so March 22nd in new brinswick the State Theater Danny deito and Matilda
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if you want tickets go to njs symphony.org Matilda or just call 1800
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algro which is also 1 800 255
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3476 Dana this one has one of our old favorites who we both had worked with
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Danny DeVito he was on SNL uh with you with me he did my very first I'm pretty
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sure Gap girls that one only had me and Sandler in it uh but he played our boss
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and I know he did a Hans and frons with you Hans and frons and church lady and
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he's a five-time host so he's he's part of that club L satday Night Live he's
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about as likable a person as you could ever spend time with there's something about him that is so sweet and fun we go
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over his penguin character Batman um that was so brilliant and hilarious the
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Tim Bur movie um Batman Returns I believe and um oh yeah we talk about uh
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his early days one flow of the Cuckoo's Nest uh Romancing the Stone he had so
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many big big things and then of course we get into twins
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taxi uh Always Sunny Always Sunny in Philadelphia yeah quite a career dude
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has done a lot and he produces and he directs we just talk about a lot of stuff with him and the guy is a good
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talker and he knows a lot about New York and and when he started and then uh he gets into all those crazy stories about
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Jim Carrey Andy Kaufman yeah going to see Andy Kaufman do stand up yeah a lot of fun stuff so this is a fun one and uh
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have a good time with [Music]
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them but I was just thinking doing this in the 1960s we might have waited for y
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brener to come on that would have been fun you Bren would be the first yeah
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guest podcast guest in 1965 we'd follow him up with Steve McQueen yeah you put
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him on he does a little dance does the accent he talks about the
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doing the jump but he didn't really do it and the Great Escape didn't really yeah all the all the stuff that he does
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you know like I had an apartment in New York once n in the 60s I got on the
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bulletin board of U of uh
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the American Academy of dramatic arts where I went to school and uh you I was
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looking for apartment so everybody was always you know scaming for like no money but we had no money so they had
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this bulletin board anywh I went to an address and it was in the weirdest place was on Madison Avenue in the in like
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57th or 8 Street 645 was the address I remember and yeah wow and um I walk in
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the door it's a really shitty building now it's all you know totally to turned
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into what New York is you know and I I go in the building and the first thing I
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saw was a giant picture a Buel
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printer oh man it was a little shitty yeah a little shitty hallway like kind
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of thing and um anyway it worked out because I I got
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the apartment it was like the second flight up it had an elevator actually in the building but very very very very old
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school and uh of course 60 it was 64 or
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something like that so what was your rent do you remember your rent yes $50 a month $50 a month and it was a one
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bedroom apartment and the back and the bedroom was was a living room bedroom kind of situation
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it had a nice bathroom in a kitchen and and and a MH uh yeah and the bedroom had
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windows that looked out over the tops of um of buildings New York so it was like
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one of those it was like if you were uh doing a play or a movie about New York
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and you said like build me a a a outside
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like what the Cyclorama would look like or today with what you would put in in in the you know the background of your
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movie it was all the stove you know the exhaust pipes and the tops of buildings
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and railings and all that like it looked like that you could do you could do uh
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Westside Story on the roofs well did did people hang out of out out of their out
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of their Windows going hey what's with the [ __ ] noise over here no no they weren't doing that it was like more like
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it wasn't like enclosed like like if there were buildings that went up in
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that area you know at that time it was just the top so you had a great Panorama
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of looking East uh but no you didn't see a river or
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anything I was on Madison Avenue and U but to actually have that address at at
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that time was like amazing [ __ ] crazy because I put these other glasses I see better
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far away that's great right in the heart of Midtown right yes right in the heart of and the thing about it is that at
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that time a lot of people don't know this Madison Avenue and Fifth Avenue
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were two-way streets I mean good guys weren't even
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born uh I I go back I remember y brener look
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I mean you know David doesn't know you is yes so you remember him but yeah oh oh yeah I remember the King and I was a
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poster but if you imagine Madison Avenue being a two-way street and you know you
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know New York very well and Fifth Avenue also I used to walk up from 30th and and
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go to 57th or eth where I lived and uh it was a two-way street it was really
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there weren't any horses and carts though you'd be happy to hear you weren't that far back it wasn't that oh
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good all right we're in the mo were you walking around with casting call
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magazine I was doing uh what we used to
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get was Show Business and uh and what what they go backstage you remember
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backstage remember that you guys did it a whole other way it was just buy I
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would you know I was never in the magazine I we'd buy these magazine these papers that came out once a week Show
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Business and and uh backstage and in there there would be all the casting
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that was going on and we would you know we would go to
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uh uh on the corner of I think it was 47th and uh seventh was uh Howard
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Johnson's and uh everybody would meet in there it was like you without you going in you know take up space and have
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coffee and read the to see what the latest thing yeah yeah to see what was
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going on and and uh Danny did you ever find when you auditioned for these things at the beginning I found this
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that you would audition and then you would hear through the gra Bine they
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already have offers out to stars but they're just looking for backups or oh no it's it's always the same case so
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it's been that since the beginning of time and the other thing about like I I'm talking about auditioning for off
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off Broadway Off Broadway uh regional theater anything that you
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could get and you know sometimes you get lucky and get an audition at the public
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you know uh and uh you know get get a a tiny part in h Shakespeare in the park
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you know like it's not L literally a spear carrier but you might have a few
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lines like I played once I got I played the doctor in h the marry wiv of w the
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doctor's servant so sorry in the marry wise of Windsor you know and uh the best
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those were the best show uh to get because they literally paid man oh that
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was like you would wind up with1 190 something dollars a week in in those uh
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in in at Joe paps you $200 it was a different contract that you know no
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strike needed there yeah four months of rentway Off Broadway was great man off
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Broadway was $68 a week $70 a week damn that's what I made on SNL and SNL didn't
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exist then did it did Lauren tell existed well Lauren Michael Z always
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existed he was in he was a teenager and he still exists there is no
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one when did SNL start when did ednel start it's a good question 75 it's like
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70 something 75 7 75 the 50th is next year yeah anniversary yeah so I yeah
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that's so 75 I was already in California
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by then I came I'd gone through Off Broadway and all those things um
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earlier and and and you know uh did Children's Theater in Massachusetts I've
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done you know did all that kind of stuff and then I I got lucky in the in the in
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1971 is or two around there and I got a a part off
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Broadway and played martini and cuckoo nest oh so that there should be [ __ ]
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Applause then then uh I stayed in that play for almost a year it ran at the
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Mercer Arts Center and that was cool and then uh uh then Milos saw it and everybody
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saw it and I got lucky and got a you know mil and then I got the movie and then
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after the movie opened I moved out wa Danny sunny California my my question
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was when you do a play You're Not Guaranteed a part in the movie are you no you're not guaranteed anything in
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this our business is you must know this it's not there's no there are no
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guarantees there's no anything no yeah I mean once in a while like for instance I
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you could imagine like Brando giving a performance like he did in street car
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and then yeah you know there you got to be a you know you have to have your head
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head in the sand to not cast him in uh in the movie so right uh same thing with
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the you know Vivian they're not gonna get someone from The Bachelor and they're not going to like
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yeah he's GNA be uh the First Choice yeah I I starred in Hans and frons the
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musical sorry go ahead I want to hear more about Hans and fron the musical
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Hans and fron the musical what I was going to ask you Danny is a philosophical question usually when
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people have their struggling years struggling years and then have hyper
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Superstar success which I'm going to put you in that category they look back at those early years and go those were some
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of the best days of my life do you feel that or did it suck when you look back on the struggle years well I never I
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don't first of all I don't I unless I'm doing something like talking to you guys
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like or something you you don't think about that as much but you you you do
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think like you know those days were struggles but not you know not the best
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they were not those were the days uh uh I I think the toughest part about that
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getting started was you know like you guys got started like when you you know
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you you you hit television or I don't know what your history is but how how
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much you did before before I met you at the when I did the church lady or
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something like but uh you were there you were you were there yeah I
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remember well you you hosted a couple times just so funny and when I did that
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drum solo in the dress you were egging me on you know and that was my best drum
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solo on television there you go you see you have to a coach you were good I had 10 10 years of
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of uh anonymity before I got SNL David had David got a movie right out of high
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school but um I know then I but then I Danny thank you for asking I did a
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police academy movie Police Academy 4 the good one and I and then I came back
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and turned something down I thought I was kind of a big deal and then I lost
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all my heat for three years and had to grind it back and it's so [ __ ]
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sickening to even think about but you know it all worked out but but like you were saying at the beginning when you
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were struggling I think like all of us you don't really know any better and you
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you know you're taking a risk by going into this world of movies and TV and theater so you can only really look back
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and think godamn how did I get through that but at the time $100 is a lot you
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get a little part it's a lot you know you're just sitting with your buddies at the coffee shop it's such a long shot to make it that it's probably once you make
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it you look back you go God that was tough but at the time it's tough but you don't I didn't really notice how tough
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it was yeah you don't notice it no you just well you're you're focused on like you're you're focused on getting a job
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Yeah so basically that was what what was going on with me I was like I would um
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uh I would read those papers that you you know and at the time excuse me in the
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60s I I didn't have an equity card so I just got out of school and like the way
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they did it was you they you would read in say you read in the in in backstage that
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such and such was casting something and you go okay and and they're casting over
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on 57th Street you know by Carnegie Hall somewhere near one of those buildings
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down the block whatever it was and casting was you know say Tuesday okay
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but you didn't get in until the end of the you got at the if you didn't have an equity card they saw everybody you know
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they would they because everybody's looking for the right person to play the part hopefully uh if and especially if
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they're not yes the I mean maybe they already had the lead cast or that's the
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way they raise the money or that those things but you would you would wait up
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in the I you go go at like 3 o'clock four o'clock in the afternoon and maybe
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the line was less and you could uh you know you could you waited and then in
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the end the very end uh they would let the non-equity
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people get in to uh to audition and then
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they'd see everybody and as a matter of fact the first play that I ever got did
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I did at uh in I think it was
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1968 or so seven the first off Broadway show
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because I had done regional theater well uh I did toured with a play once that
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came out of school that was like kind of casting the we went to two theaters went
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to the Eugene O'Neal Foundation where they the playwrights thing in 60
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something 64 and and then like in
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68 I I actually did that I went to the to one of those
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auditions and where they make you wait until the very end and I Peak my head into the you know it was this big big
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door in one of those big old pre-war buildings and the like was on I think it might have been on like near 57th Street
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and I I walk up and it's giant door and it was nobody there cuz I had gone and come back the line was really long and
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he anyway long story short I stuck my head in and there were there was an actor a
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director and a writer and a producer sitting at a table really far away in
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this big empty room looked like rehearsal room and I just popped my head in like and
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and you know you still uh you know seeing people kind of thing and the
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actor uh a guy named Allan Garfield you remember you know Alan James Garfield's
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son no no I don't know who who his dad was his name was Alan Garfield but he
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was you know him Dave no I know Garfield the cat Okay anyway the guy literally at
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the table like across the room turns around and said that's the guy who
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should play the part whoa they were trying to talk him into yeah he didn't want to do this part it was
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wasn't a huge part but it was a good part and I stuck my head in the door and
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the guy and the actor not the director and the producers and the writer or whatever he said there's the guy who
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should play this part and I I just backed out of the room
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or something and they came and got me and I went in and I read the lines did the thing I didn't I didn't I had never
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seen the script before just you know like those things where they give you the
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yeah yeah and I got a part in a in a in a play called shoot anything with hair
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that moves of course a huge
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[Music] success I just think of the 70s and the films of the 70s and Cuckoo's Nest and
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of course that play yeah don't shoot anything that has hair and the the
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friends that you that you made Jack Nicholson and Michael Douglas and your your class those 70s
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guys that all became and they're lifelong friends what what's the deal with those guys are they fun or do you
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like them or jackon and yeah they're good to work with yeah Jack's the coolest guy out there Jack Jack was like
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a a guy from Jersey he he actually lived like he was born in this we were born in
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the same Hospital figure that I'll be Dam and well hey I'll be damned
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how about that that's what Jack would say I'll be damn born in the same
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Hospital yeah how do you like that me and the born in the same hospital um I
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don't do a good accent uh let's see and then Michael I met I met actually in the 60s
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at the Eugene O'Neal um playr conference up there where we where that play that I was
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going through town with uh we we opened the festival that
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year and um that's where we met so and there and not only good guys but really
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uh fun to work with and and you and once we got going we had a couple shots to
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work together which was like really good you know it's when people are
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looking out for you because uh the business is like very difficult uh and
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when people are looking out for you as well as you know your your buddies and
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know what the scoop is then you you know you be fortunate to have those guys as
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friends you're lucky you're all good too because it's it's it's hard to help each other out or recommend someone but if
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everybody's good those you know all three of you so it it's not crazy that you would all be in another movie or
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that you would work together because you keep bringing bringing it which is hard to do it's all about work the work right
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yeah just keep working yeah yeah keep having having and having a good time doing it our theme Here ve uh casually
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SNL and uh you hosted five times it's very rare o' to host five times five
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o'clock you and John Goodman and a couple others when you host that show as you know you got a pretty much cold read
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55 scripts over four hours basically and I remember thinking the time when you
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came in in 86 or 87 damn this guy can cold read was it were you known for that
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but you were like nailing it you know over and over again I don't you know pretty cool to to to watch as a young
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performer well it a lot of fun to sit in that room with all you crazy people and
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uh and and have that pile of scripts in front of you and just go through them
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and I mean that that's like uh you know the opportunity to have everybody there
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pitching what they thought was best best and what you felt comfortable with that's the main thing I think that's key
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right for would you say like for the hosts to be comfortable with all that
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material want you know pick the ones that are the ones that suit you best
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it's a lucky thing like to have that um pack of you know troubadors all
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sitting around the table you know it's like old school Showbiz kind of yeah old
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school you know it's like yeah I could imagine what it was like you know when the Marx brothers were running around
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all the theaters trying out material you know that that would be the same kind of uh thing they they they just go do they
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suffer people through two hours or three hours of material and then pick the ones that
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they like best yeah Jerry Lewis and Dean Martin uh did some TV shows in there Don Paro show me they said to me and they
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would just go up to the director and cut his tie off with a scissor they you know this is Jerry Lewis in the 50s and they
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would both just push the piano over like destroy the piano they were the anarchist then the crazy people but one
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thing about you I have to say so we get to it was on Hans and France when we got you in there as like a Pitbull
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over-the-top Austrian guy who was out of his mind and you kept we would berate the audience the imagin and you would
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start braiding them and then you start attacking the camera and we had to keep holding you back that was one of the
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funniest moments I had on that show with you in that sketch yeah hysterical
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because you committed so [ __ ] hard I think sometimes the task of the
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director for me is hold you know sitting on me holding me back get me away from
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the just try to turn the burners down a little bit you know once I get going I
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guess that's what happen burners down all happens that way well that's what
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Arnold Arnold told me about you he said you know you you got to keep Danny on his feet keep Danny on his feet because
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his energy goes on a short leash a short leash otherwise he gets going he gets away at the leash and you have to you
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have to follow him and get him and bring him back into the scene because the emotions get so high with Danny it's
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funny about about with Arnold Arnold and I thrust together by Ivan wman who just
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passed away Soul he he uh he called me and said how
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would you like to be Arnold Schwarzenegger's brother I said let me I jump at the chance I thought that was a
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great idea once we got together it was like we had a great chemistry we breaking balls constant it was like a
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kind of like you know know uh you know he's he's so formidable you know and
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like and he's got a great sense of humor he does have oh yeah like he's always doing all kinds of like you know
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crazy ass [ __ ] and he always had a pack of guys around him like Franco and
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and Franco colbo yeah and all these guys and these other bodybuilders and so it
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was like a pack of it was like a pack of bros it was similar you know going into
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like that with the you know as a host of Saturday Night Live going into this pack
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of like crazy people that were always you know that had a secondhand a
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shorthand and and uh and got along the way you guys did I don't you know at
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least when when I was around you we were always you know [ __ ] around having a good time and so it was a similar kind
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of thing with uh with Arnold I go in and and there would all be these guys seriously pumping iron and doing [ __ ]
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and you know talking about nut you know and I just like you know when you get
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protein all of a sudden a kind of a wrecking ball comes in and starts
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banging into you know yeah it was fun it was a lot of fun were they goingon to do a
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triplets yeah we were GNA do it and then uh two this is
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the I always go by the Super Bowl because it was I was in Atlanta uh doing a movie and uh and it
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was Super Bowl Sunday and I was just get getting over covid I was stuck in a room for two
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weeks and and uh the news came that Ivan passed away on that day and so this is
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going to be three this is three years now that he's gone two yeah three years two years yeah
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okay brilliant director yeah it was a drag um he was uh you know he's a lot of
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fun and uh and uh made made a big difference in my
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life well yeah I was told but we were gonna do triplets oh we were going to do
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triplets we had a we had a script going everything was going and then when he
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passed uh his family didn't want to continue with doing it so we're Arnold and I are working on other things
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together oh good and you know that's awesome we love Arnold the way yeah he's he's a
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cool guy a good
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[Music] guy Tracy Morgan was going to come in
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I'll put a baby in there you know he's so funny I had we
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had a we had a great together and he was just off the charts bananas
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I mean that energy in there don't get any EAS that's that you
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know that's the way you know the way things things things go you know like
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um they you know you have to always adjust as like we we do so did you have
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the role that Got Away Danny uh uh or maybe a conflict he had he had
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to do another movie in that I couldn't
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do I hadn't had one of those that that was uh really substantial that you know
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you could look back and say you know no I'm I've had roles that I desperately
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wanted and got which I got I had to work hard to
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get if you can't imagine you know how everybody holds out
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you know you get a part somebody says the last minute you get a part and and
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it's the one you wanted and that that's really the ones I think about ones that
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got away I don't know I can't you know were you going to be castanza oh no no I think like you mean
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like in Seinfeld yeah no I I wasn't I
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they they they just uh yeah
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when yeah I was still I don't know what I was doing at the time I I when when
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mid but I did a movie I did a movie called the ratings
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game which is uh was done for Showtime it was the first movie that I
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directed and and I cast in that
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movie as a it was his one of his first things on camera Jerry
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Seinfeld I don't know if he had done anything before this but I cast him as a
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an agent and coincidentally the there were a couple
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of like character really wild characters in the movie I cast Michael Richards in
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the same movie oh weird really yeah wow I didn't know that they would later be teamed up in the Seinfeld but this was
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like in um it was in 83 when did Seinfeld go on like 90
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93 2 three four I'm sorry something like that so so 10 years earlier I did a
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movie called the ratings game and um both Jerry Seinfeld and Michael Richards
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were in it did Jerry ask you questions how to direct he go how do you want me
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how do you want me to play this scene did he ever say that to you no I don't
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yeah he's pretty kind of serious in real life I think by the way which Batman did you work with I can't remember Batman
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Returns who was the Batman again oh no that
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oh I love Michael I do I'm not just because you're on our show right now I love your penguin I loved it your you're
00:31:57
Oswald penguin I thought didn't you have fun doing that I me your your get up was so
00:32:03
crazy yeah yeah I had I had fun doing that that was a u that was one of the
00:32:09
ones that I really wanted and I I you know
00:32:14
and I met Tim and uh we had a great you
00:32:20
know conversation about it and I knew he had done a lot of drawings and we sat in
00:32:27
his office and uh looked at and I really really wanted to play that and he the
00:32:34
makeup was the first makeup was I was in the chair for almost five hours and then
00:32:40
that we got it down to three but we stayed around three three and three three in change and it was amazing and
00:32:47
it was the thing about I liked about that was you know I like I said I like to go
00:32:53
big and and boy oh boy o wal was written like an opera he could go you could take
00:33:01
this guy you know I mean he just was he was slapping his flippers off the walls
00:33:07
baby you know I mean your bird canot
00:33:12
fly he was the Wicked Witch he was all of it all in one Crazy Character it's OD yeah and
00:33:22
that was after okay that was after so I'd work with I did the you know we did
00:33:27
Romancing the Stone jul of the Nile great and then War of the Roses with Michael and Kath and I I was just about
00:33:35
thinking about what we were going to do again because I was trying to uh pull a Fritz Lang you know where you as a
00:33:43
director you cast you know the same people in in the in all of your movies
00:33:48
but they play different parts and and then Batman came along and it's odd the
00:33:55
way things you know merge most of the movies that I've done um you know C came out of the blue
00:34:02
and I was very you're very fortunate you know I was I was going to direct a pilot in I was sitting in the in the
00:34:10
commissary a Paramount and and U I was just about to make the deal like with I
00:34:16
was talking to the writer and I was talking to the producer and it was at Paramount and I was going to be the I I
00:34:22
was directing this pilot and and uh I had a a yellow P pad full of notes you
00:34:30
know about the pilot script and I knew I was getting really Steely daggers from
00:34:36
the writer who was also the producer and a
00:34:42
woman this was in the days we didn't have cell phones and stuff a woman from the like the commissary I was in the
00:34:49
commissary all the time because of Taxi we that's where we shot taxi she came over to me and she said you have a phone
00:34:56
call it was like the old Hollywood day she didn't bring it to the table but I I
00:35:02
got up and went over to where the phone was and I and I it was it was Michael
00:35:07
Douglas and and and uh he rescued me from doing that
00:35:13
pilot because we had shot Romancing the Stone
00:35:19
already no yes Romancing the Stone and he said what are you doing I heard
00:35:26
you're going to do a pilot I said yeah man I'm struggling through this meeting right now he said well you can't do that
00:35:32
we got to we got to go on the road man we're going all over the world to promote the movie and I said I love you
00:35:40
baby yeah get me out of here I love you you rescued my ass all
00:35:47
right I got a question go did you ever go see you were on a show called taxi
00:35:52
you might not remember but did you ever see uh Andy coffin go do standup just
00:35:57
like at The Comedy Store yeah and how was that that was that was bizarre yeah
00:36:03
bizarre yeah but I went to see him do that and I saw him and I went out to eat
00:36:09
at the restaurant he waited he bus boyed out in the valley uh it was uh after he
00:36:15
was on Taxi yeah while he was on the
00:36:21
show he bust boyed out in uh I love it on uh I I think it I'm not sure the name
00:36:27
of the deli yeah it was a good uh might have been cats's no no what the hell in
00:36:34
in the valley it wasn't Ary it was the other one it's closed now but
00:36:41
Jerry's out in it was on San is it on ventur Boulevard Jerry's is yeah Jerry
00:36:46
yeah that was that that might have been it Jerry yeah and
00:36:52
uh and you know we went out we had like couple of us from the show I think
00:36:59
Tony might have been with me and Jud might have come uh we just one night
00:37:05
went out and uh we knew he was working and so we we went and ate and uh you
00:37:12
know had conversations with it like you would have with the bus boy not Andy Andy's nowhere
00:37:20
around all right he's the bus boy now he was the bus boy it was like really great
00:37:27
I mean that that that was that guy was like uh yeah we had some fun his
00:37:33
dressing was right next to mine we would um he was a he he was hysterical one day
00:37:41
somebody was delivering a package and it was a woman and he started yelling at her because she she was uh I don't know
00:37:49
UPS or I can't remember what maybe it was the government I don't know what the [ __ ] it was but she's walking in she's
00:37:56
got a unifor form on she's delivering a package to somebody and he tells her that she should be home you know she's
00:38:02
taking a man's job and he BR her into a wrestling match I was there for that one right in
00:38:10
the hallway both them turning red you know what I mean like choke holes we had a break AP a
00:38:19
couple of times was so that you could do that crazy about that I don't think you
00:38:26
could actually I mean you could do that you could do yeah I don't know there was no like you know again if that was a it
00:38:35
was that was today somebody would be out with a cell phone and the next thing you know it would be online and people would
00:38:41
comment about it and they would say you know but I'll tell you the woman that he was fighting was as big as he was and
00:38:49
and she did a good job man he had his ass down big time you know it was it was
00:38:58
uh I don't know if Tony I always wondered if Tony always had a little camera with him Danza and I was
00:39:04
wondering if he you had one of those little always had a 8
00:39:11
MIM did were you cast before Andy were you cast first or did you have any hand in the no I think Andy might have been
00:39:18
cast I was I was the last I think I might have been one of the last members
00:39:23
to be cast uh and the the uh the the story was that I was
00:39:31
told later was that my part was actually written as a like a voice that came over
00:39:39
the loudspeaker like kind of like Carlton the doorman involed in that guy and uh and
00:39:49
then uh ultimately you know I came in and and did my famous audition where I I
00:39:56
I said uh I said to them before I they just introduced me and I said to Brooks
00:40:05
and Weinberger and D Stan Dan D Davis was there all the guys sitting around I
00:40:12
said one thing I want to know before I start who wrote this [ __ ] and I threw it on the
00:40:17
table and it was like a split second of like am I gonna get not even you know a
00:40:23
nanc they then they just [ __ ] pisss right and then it was one of those
00:40:29
auditions where you you couldn't say anything you couldn't do anything wrong I'd say and and I'd get a
00:40:37
laugh love it it wasn't yeah it was a that was the the casting director was Joel
00:40:45
thurm he he said you gotta come and do this you got you know and I I said yeah
00:40:50
man okay cool what a [ __ ] score that was score that was yeah yeah what was
00:40:55
weirder working with Andy Kaufman on taxi or then doing the man on the moon with Jim Carrey doing Andy Kaufman I
00:41:03
think work with Jim was it was like really off the chart that was the most
00:41:09
fun like I've had fun like on sure I'm really fortunate I had fun on a lot of
00:41:16
the M you know never had one of those oh [ __ ] that was awful movies I always had
00:41:21
these like really quirky kind of things and being on the set with Jim Carrey [Music]
00:41:27
sorry about that car was oh oh it is Jim no I'm only
00:41:35
kid he was like in so far in you know all the St we saw the documentary I was
00:41:42
producing that movie and so my I been also playing God Rest his soul George
00:41:48
Shapiro uh anyway he was busting my balls constantly and you know and Milos is
00:41:55
then see and it's infectious because then what would happen if we were having fun but Milo should go to me you got to
00:42:03
go to m trailer I'm losing time my I gota get you know I the studio is going
00:42:10
to be on my ass yeah and I'm going uh Andy uh Jim
00:42:15
uh Tony Tony come on out and he's gone you know but it was fun it was even
00:42:23
though it was like you know and I've got a lot of friends who work on that movie and we still talk about that experience
00:42:31
because Pam Abdi was my assistant at the time uh she was there and knowing that I
00:42:38
was going through what was going on I mean he did things like L he okay we're
00:42:44
acting in the movie but I'm also the producer one of the producers of the movie and so he he would get mad at the
00:42:52
and he like he he pulled his car up to my trailer and when went up you know there's got the little metal steps he
00:42:59
jammed his the car up put it in gear or something locked it took the keys I
00:43:05
couldn't get out of my trail Teamsters had to come with a crane to get the car you know it was like one
00:43:12
of those it was a crazy crazy time I Jim Carrey Jim Carrey is [ __ ] great just
00:43:18
just the fact that he committed that did he get nominated for best actor for that or I don't know I don't know we had a
00:43:25
really uh it was a he was brilliant in that part and uh you
00:43:33
know and and seriously um uh would turn it on and off when he
00:43:41
wanted so that was like one of those things where whenever he came to the set he was always in character but if you
00:43:49
see him like you know you know off like I went to his
00:43:54
house or something like that for a you know some he was like cool he wasn't
00:44:02
you know he wasn't like a serial killer off the yeah off the he's very he's sort
00:44:09
of a quiet sweet guy yeah quiet sweet guy but then turned into like Tony
00:44:14
Clifton I love it which was Tony Clifton is a whole other that was [ __ ] up yeah
00:44:20
we we we shot at a place called chason's down on I remember that that place
00:44:26
okay he spread there was some kind of I don't know union strike or something
00:44:32
there was something going on he wrote like big letters like you know in red
00:44:38
ink I mean red spray paint uh all over the building I had I have to re to paint
00:44:45
I had to repaint the entire building it's like a Farley it's like
00:44:52
having a crazy person on the side like like like Chris I I can't imagine what
00:44:57
it was I I I always loved Chris and uh uh because he would take it to that you
00:45:04
know oh yeah he was always the one my God same kind of thing just a lot of
00:45:09
attention a lot of craziness and uh Chris lovable sweet guy like Jim I mean
00:45:14
just but they really liven things up there's always a story after the fact there's always a
00:45:24
story Dana I got to asked Danny about uh always an an Always Sunny question
00:45:30
because we can't let you go without talking about Always Sunny uh one question of mine is I don't see all the
00:45:36
episodes but I see a lot of it on Instagram which I don't know if you know this but when they show Tik Tok and
00:45:41
Instagram Clips they're always so [ __ ] filthy I'm like are these from the real show are they getting away with
00:45:47
all this stuff are they filthy I don't know I don't I don't I mean like just they're very R-rated and I thought yeah
00:45:54
the show I mean people love that [ __ ] show they love it yeah the show is a little uh you know I don't know what
00:46:01
you're talking about but we have had some um innuendo I guess yeah yeah
00:46:08
there's some inuendos for sure I'm not sure if they're even
00:46:14
inuendos they're just uh straight ahead but yeah they're it's so funny and uh it's it's such a long run so it sounds
00:46:22
like a gift I'm sure just like being with f they all fun as [ __ ] I don't know everybody that well but no they were all
00:46:29
they're all you know uh uh when I got the show uh that you know lra was my
00:46:38
buddy and he showed me right F FX uh and
00:46:44
then I met them and they were you know just the way they are and uh the same C you know the three
00:46:51
yeah oddballs and then I met Caitlyn and she's she's like hysterical hilarious
00:46:59
but um yeah they're they're a lot of fun to go to work with you know yeah it's
00:47:04
good it's a good job it's been on there forever keeps giving keeps giving and
00:47:10
now Matilda we have to talk about yeah Matilda came to me yeah which you
00:47:16
directed the movie I did I directed the movie and and I you know I I saw Mara
00:47:23
Wilson in in uh in uh the uh uh movie uh
00:47:28
Mrs dfire and she was a little bit older when I met her perfect for Matilda and
00:47:35
we Shot the movie and it it it was great we had a great time that was like that was fun that was aund hundreds of kids
00:47:44
there was no CG we we added kids and all that stuff yeah this was all real kids
00:47:50
was really great me on the stage with a bullhorn yeah do this do that you know like and uh get your finger out of your
00:47:57
nose we're shooting okay wrangling cats wrangling yeah and so now we're doing it
00:48:02
on on WE we've taken the sound out you know you've seen these things uh everybody's does it with ET and does it
00:48:10
with Star Wars and does it with Back to the Future I took the soundtrack out and
00:48:17
David Newman is going to conduct the the philarmonic it's a symphony or New
00:48:23
Jersey Symphony Orchestra M and we're doing that um on March 22nd in New
00:48:31
Jersey the at the State Theater in New Brunswick and it's really exciting to do
00:48:37
because here's the thing you take the sound out okay the not just the music
00:48:42
out but I I narrate the movie as well as play a part in it so when I when I'm
00:48:49
narrating I'm on stage actually with the symphony orchestra it's really intimidating but but it's really a lot
00:48:56
fun yeah and and you're watching the you know the streamer go by on I got a monitor with the movie he's conducting
00:49:04
the score the people are watching the the movie I've got a brand new print and
00:49:09
it's just beautiful the print is like gorgeous and um and then when the stream
00:49:17
when when it's my turn to narrate talk you know you have he conducts it's like being conduct over it
00:49:24
you talk over it yeah well in the movie I play the part of wormwood Mr wormwood and I also
00:49:31
narrate the movie so I tried to find somebody to narrate the movie but I being the egotist I am I
00:49:39
couldn't anybody else that's myself
00:49:44
and H and it's kind of a trip to see you know you play the part you're narrated
00:49:50
the movie and I've got uh Ria of course plays Mrs wormwood she's going to come
00:49:55
on the 22nd great and uh and I've got Pam Ferris coming over from England she
00:50:02
played the trench bow it's really astounding how many kids love the Miss trunch bow Miss trunch she was
00:50:11
really really tough and Mar by the way I don't hear about a lot of these things Danny you don't hear about the the
00:50:19
symphony maybe with a Star Wars or something but this is a really interesting thing to do yeah yeah yeah
00:50:25
fun F challenging situation yeah it's um and I'm David Newman who wrote The Score
00:50:33
we've we've done this once be we did it once before uh we did it a few years
00:50:39
ago uh with a Orchestra of the East Coast not not New Jersey and it worked
00:50:47
out really great it's fun it's uh it's a it's a fun night because you get you
00:50:53
know but but you're right usually it's done with the more like back to the
00:50:58
futury kind of ET Blockbuster crazy movies this one is um it's got a lot of
00:51:06
music in it so it's fun who who wrote The Score David Newman he one of the
00:51:12
Newman yeah the Newman uh pack there's as soon as the newans were born the
00:51:19
father was uh the head of 20th Century Fox music did all the the scores of all
00:51:26
the old movies that we love and his brother they have the whole you always see the Newman name on and then David
00:51:34
David scores Thomas Newman Randy Newman they're all related these guys they were
00:51:39
all like as soon as they're born they give him a violin or a put or stick him little babies the first thing the newans
00:51:47
do yeah even even uh Eric Newman is his son Randy's son produces Naros lot of
00:51:55
movies so there you go everyone's In The Biz yeah everybody's In The Biz uh so this should be a really good night
00:52:02
sounds great yeah if you are you guys in the East Coast or you are you here
00:52:07
sometimes we are in California but if I was out there I'd crash that party yeah crash that party because we're gonna
00:52:14
have uh yeah uh I've never the State Theater in New Brunswick is uh new for
00:52:21
me I've never been there but fil the symphony orra you did I believe so how
00:52:28
many seat is that about 2, 250000 okay I think I played yeah yeah
00:52:37
great great theater this is would be really fun I love live music and live Symphony Orchestra it's just and then to
00:52:44
have you there narrating and seeing the film yeah that sounds fun yeah I would go see it everybody package deal are you
00:52:51
on the East Coast right now Danny yeah I'm on the west coast we're probably right around the corner from me West
00:52:56
Coast okay I don't know yeah yeah I'll wave anyway it's been a pleasure Danny
00:53:02
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