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You know, KBY, I I wrote the book
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>> specifically for the church lady.
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I may take a nap during the podcast.
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>> That's what most of us,
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>> but out of uh out of respect for you and
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Spade. The last time I saw Spade, we we
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were both shoplifting in Beverly Hills.
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You know me, I've been on every arc show
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a million times. I'm banned from them
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now. Now they want to hear about me.
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Tina Fay hates me.
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Gina hates you.
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>> Hates you.
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>> Hold on.
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>> So does the blonde.
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>> The cuddliest cuddly bear.
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>> Amy Polar.
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>> Oh, so does the blonde. Me
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>> hates me.
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>> Dana Bill O'Reilly is on today. Bill
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O'Reilly.
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>> Bill O'Reilly
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>> who is interesting guest for us. A
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little different off the beaten path. Uh
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friends with Dennis Miller. That's where
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I met him. Uh
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>> Billy
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>> and has books out, lots of books out.
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He's a very much a thinker
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and a doer
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>> and he says he's an independent. I mean
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a lot of people including myself were
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thinking oh you're a obviously right uh
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politically
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and he says
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>> that was kind of shocking. He really
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what we talked about was his latest book
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was about the history of kind of evil
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people like Angus Khan and stuff
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>> and it's a very easy read but it's
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really informative you know how much you
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know about all these you know Napoleon
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or all these people who did evil things.
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>> Yeah he does
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>> Napoleon was in there
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>> a deep knowledge of history. We didn't
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really get into too much politics, but
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which is good. You know, we just talked
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about the books and about Dennis and
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about He does love comedy and so I
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thought it was a nice chat.
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>> Yeah. And he he does talk to Trump on
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the phone twice a month. So he says uh
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some some insightful things about the
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man who occupies the White House.
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>> Yeah.
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>> If you're interested, I think it'll be
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fun to listen to.
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>> It's a fun listen. And here he is, Bill
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O'Reilly.
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>> Bill O'Reilly.
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>> I feel like I'm on your show. This is
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really funny. You You've got a nice
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studio tie on
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>> now. I'm watching you guys here.
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>> Can't hear me. Can't hear us.
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>> Yeah. Spade looks like he's in a bat
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cave.
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>> You look like you're in Bali, Indonesia.
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>> Yes. Yeah,
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>> you got to have plants in podcasts.
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>> Yeah, absolutely. Cuz most people you're
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interview are potted plants anyway.
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>> Oh my god.
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>> Two in a row. How old are you?
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>> I'm 17. Um, this will be And thanks for
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having me on you guys. I really
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appreciate it.
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>> We're excited to talk to you. You're
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never ever boring ever. Well, you know,
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that's uh probably true, but I know that
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you have access to the Kardashians and
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you know, I'm very very flattered to be
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here.
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>> That's right. We do. By the way, I'm
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really enjoying your book. Let's just
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start with this because I have a lot of
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other questions, secular questions about
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society and all that.
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>> Sure. Sure.
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>> But I am really enjoying it. I'd
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recommend it to anyone. Confronting
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evil. I'm a I'm a casual history buff,
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but you realize you don't really know. I
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love the way it's written. I I uh read
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Genghaskhan first.
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It's very nice and tur sentences. It's
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very clear. It moves. It has a thesis
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and they tell you what they're eating
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and how they're sleeping. So, I'm just
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really enjoying it. I read Mau this
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morning, so I'm in a very cheerful mood
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about the state of humanity.
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>> You read all the fun parts first.
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>> It's you. It's bite-sized chapters,
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quote unquote, and you can go anywhere
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you want, but it's just the most evil
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people in history. So, anyway, that's my
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pitch.
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>> You know, Karby, I I wrote the book
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>> specifically for the church lady.
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I mean, Satan and I was commiserating
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with the church lady and she demanded
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>> that I write Confronting Evil to get all
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the evil out there. and and what the
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church lady commands I do. So, I want
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everybody to know that
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>> I talked to her before I came out. I can
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only paraphrase it. Well, well, well.
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Mr. Bill O'Reilly writes a book about
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naughty people when he could have been
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writing about himself.
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>> There you go. Everyone wants a church
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lady singer. Um, so anyway, how are you?
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Where are you in your cycle? I knew
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you'd be early on the podcast and you
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seem to have unlimited energy.
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>> So, what are you are you going to take a
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nap after this podcast?
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>> I am. I may take a nap during the
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podcast.
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>> That's what most of us,
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>> but out of uh out of respect for you and
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Spade, the last time I saw Spade, we we
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were both shoplifting in Beverly Hills.
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I don't know whether I don't know
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whether he remembers it. We were one of
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those big stores on Beverly Boulevard.
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>> Oh, it was Barney. Yeah. Yeah. He he
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stashed a little shirt in his uh in his
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uh sweatshirt. I think I had some
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silverware in my pants. Um and we kind
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of just ran into each other
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>> right on the stairs. I knew I had up to
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$1,000. So there nobody cared. I ran out
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of there. Uh no, Barney's closed. It was
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sad. It was sad. I couldn't waste money
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anymore.
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>> Uh
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>> but anyway, uh you know, my cycle is
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interesting. Uh I'm kind of a little bit
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like you guys, but uh you're much more
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talented than I am. So what we do here
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uh once I left Fox News
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>> was I said, "Look, I'm going to I've
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been working for corporations now for 42
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years,
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>> and I'm going to do it on my own now. Um
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I'm going to go out." So I I I did three
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corporations, one TV, one radio, and one
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books and internet, social media. And I
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took five people from Fox with me and
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then we grew at 60 people work for me.
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60 now. So I'm like 87 years old, which
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you could probably see. And and my
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friends are all driving around in carts
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and playing pickle ball. And I said,
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"Are you really hitting the pickles? I
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mean, what what are you doing? What is
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that?"
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>> Yeah. But I'm working like a sherpa. I
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mean, I would rather be taking luggage
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up the Himalayas than doing what I'm
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doing now. Sometimes working for someone
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is okay, but sometimes
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>> Yeah. But at least I'm calling my own
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shots,
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>> you know.
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>> Oh my god.
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>> Well, that trend has only accelerated
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exponentially since you started and
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Glenn Beck and then everybody else and
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Megan Kelly and Tucker Carlson, they
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create their own ecosystem and there's
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no difference and everybody's watching
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everything on YouTube and so I mean to
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me to not for you to have a boss
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>> doesn't seem correct. Well, I never
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really had one other than but there were
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some big boys like Run Aridge. He was
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the guy that started Monday Night
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Football and Howard Coell and then it
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was Roger Als. These were tough guys.
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They were like Michaels for you guys.
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>> Sure.
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>> I mean, you could go up against them,
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but you better have your stuff together.
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Um, but I was never a corporate guy.
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>> So, I stayed at Fox for more than 20
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years, bananked a lot of money. Uh, and
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then I said, I'm going to try to do this
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on my own because of the technology and
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it's worked great. And and not only
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that, but the freedom that we have
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because you're in the same in business
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now.
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>> Um, is just for me emotionally
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really a boost. That's where I get my
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energy. So, I was in LA uh over the
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weekend with Mah uh and his Dopey show
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>> and uh
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>> you know, he he works for HBO.
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>> Now, he's got autonomy like crazy. He's
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been there 23 years. He can do pretty
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much what he wants to do. He's got, you
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know, a thousand writers and all of
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this, but he's still got that corporate
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structure. you know, he still has to go
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to the meetings and stuff like that. And
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uh you know, I'm saying, "Hey, Mark, you
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you probably make more money just doing
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this on your own," which he's starting
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to do,
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>> right? With Club Random
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>> with the podcast he's inching over.
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Yeah.
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>> Yeah.
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>> But he could do the same kind of show
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himself and Yeah. So, I'm glad I was
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around long enough to see this happen,
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you know, because going on a traditional
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talk show, you get the Q&A up front, the
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host is feeding you, you know, and now
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it's just we're this is like green room
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stuff. We're just getting to talk to you
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unfiltered.
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>> Are you guys amazed though that in our
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lifespans, I'm older than you, but we
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came up in the what they call the golden
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era of of TV, linear TV. Are you
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surprised at the the changes and and how
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fast they came in,
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>> David?
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>> Yeah, I am for sure. And I'm also
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surprised uh it's also hard to stay in
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the business in any way, shape, or form
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because it goes it it switches over to
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Tik Tok. I mean, I was on sitcoms for a
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while. There's not many sitcoms being
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made. Uh there's a lot of people doing
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it the do your do-it-yourself way as
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you're talking about. Some it works,
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some it doesn't. But if you have an
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audience, hopefully they can find you
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and you can get a bigger piece and call
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the shots. I I I look at that Jimmy
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Kimmel situation. There's definitely two
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sides to like having a boss and saying
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what you want to say. And unless you are
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the boss, it just shows you can't
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always, it's not like real freedom of
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speech. It's more like we have to keep
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it within reason for advertise. There's
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always sort of a boss, right? Unless
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you're doing your own thing. Yeah,
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absolutely. And not only that though, it
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weighs you down.
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>> Um because YouTube in particular are
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creative funny guys. I'm I'm more of a
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journalist kind of give me the facts and
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all that, but when you have to when
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you're being secondguessed,
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>> all right. Yeah.
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>> Uh that kind of emotional stuff cuts
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into the creativity because if you're
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creative,
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>> you're gonna make mistakes. you're going
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to screw up. Sometimes it's going to
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fall flat. But in order to get the big
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hits, you got to try stuff. And all the
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corporate suits ARE LIKE, "OH, NO. WE
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CAN'T DO THAT."
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>> But Kimmel and Colbear and I I know all
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these guys and I
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>> Yeah,
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>> you you know me. I've been on every talk
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show a million times. I'm banned from
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most of them now. Not everyone hear
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about me. Okay.
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>> John have a nice
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>> You have to be banned from some. Yeah.
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>> Yeah. that changed and and it's it's a
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bad change for America, but once Trump
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came in, uh if you didn't hate Trump,
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then you were banished. I was on a view
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like a dozen times and you know mixed it
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up with the ladies and it was you know
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when Barbara Walters around was good but
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once they started to really hate Trump
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and I was talking to Kimmel through one
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of his friends and I said look
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>> it's okay to make fun of Trump but if
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you hate him if there's just blood
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dripping from your nose
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>> sure
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>> you're alienating 50% of the country you
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know don't be more get them if you not
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all right but don't be hateful about it
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that is what has changed
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>> my philosophy is to be funny first
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because that's the way I was you know
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raised on comedy be funny first if you
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make a point within it but if it's just
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the goal is to teach uh as a comedian I
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don't really like that style personally
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>> yeah it's hard
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what happened is that and I'm partially
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responsible for This I never forget I
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had I I had Ted CPP on the factor
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>> and CPP looked at me and said you ruined
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television news and I said thank you.
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>> Thank you. It needed to be ruined
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because pinheads like you were excluding
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half the country.
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>> All right. We couldn't
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>> sure
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>> you couldn't get their point of view
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because you guys are sitting in the
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ivory towers in Manhattan. So I'm glad I
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broke it down. But then what it went was
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in when again Trump comes in, it's they
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were making money hating him and they're
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making money like him. And that's where
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it all broke down.
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>> So now when people turn on linear
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television, they expect to get
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propaganda on one side or the other. And
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then the social media, at least some of
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us, and I include you guys in that.
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We're not interested in making money
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hating or loving somebody. We want to be
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entertaining and informative. And that's
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why I think we win.
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>> Yeah. Um, I'd agree with that.
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>> I agree.
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>> I just have to tell you, Dana, there's
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something I'm excited about.
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Now, you remember we talked about Jury
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Duty, the show?
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>> Oh, yeah.
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>> Season one. Yeah.
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>> Yeah.
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>> And that one I saw it on Tik Tok
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>> and then it was kind of a word of mouth
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thing. It It blew up. It was funny.
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>> And uh it actually all pulled together,
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which I was shocked they pulled that
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thing together.
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>> Uh and I was like, I will they do it
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again and they did.
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>> And cool. I think that's very cool. It
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it was set in a courtroom the first time
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and uh
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>> this is going to be a company retreat.
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>> H yeah.
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>> Yeah. Jury duty presents company
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retreat. It takes this groundbreaking
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social experiment
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>> out of the courthouse. Stay with me
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Dana.
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>> I got it. And drops it into the most
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relatable setting ever, the company
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corporate retreat. And if you've ever
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survived that awkward team building
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exercises or a trust fall with
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co-workers,
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>> you you know the vibe.
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>> Yeah. I mean, this is an inspired idea,
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I gotta say, after jury duty to put it
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in a company retreat. This season
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follows Anthony, a real temp hired by
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Rocking Grandma's Hot Sauce for their
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annual retreat.
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>> Right there. They should figure it out.
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Rocking Grandma's Hot Sauce.
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>> Yeah, I know. Except he has no idea the
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entire thing is staged around him. It's
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It's a workplace comedy means hidden
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camera. And uh it's unpredictable. It's
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authentic. It's so full of heart. The
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stakes are higher, the laughs are
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bigger, and it still celebrates the
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goodness in people. And here's the wild
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part. Rock and grandma's hot sauce.
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They're actually making it.
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>> Okay.
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>> And the flavors will be available on
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Amazon.
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>> Oh my god. I wonder if they started that
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first or if they
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>> they just made up that name and then it
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sounded funny. And but it's going to get
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a lot of attention. But you know, this
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thing,
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>> I'm kind of glad they didn't do it in
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the courtroom again because someone
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would figure that out. I would think.
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>> Oh, I don't think they could do it in
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the courtroom. I think that company
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retreat is uh the next best one. Yeah,
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>> it's hard to think of where to do it,
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but they did a good job. So, looking
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forward to that.
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>> Me, too. Watch now on Prime Video. For
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comedians in the last seven, eight
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years, it's been very, very touchy. And
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uh you did sort of start to say to
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yourself, well, I can't say that. And I
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don't really I'm not X-rated or
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anything, but even certain kind of takes
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couldn't do it. X-ray is better than
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having
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>> Well, let me give you an example as an
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outsider
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>> and then I'll give you an example.
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>> Okay.
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>> Okay.
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>> So, I'm watching you on SNL with Biden.
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>> That's what I was going to bring up.
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>> Go ahead.
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>> It's brilliant. I I mean, I'm on the
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floor. I'm on the floor. Okay. But I
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like you anyway. I like both of you or I
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wouldn't be here. So, I don't do
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podcasts with people I don't like.
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So I'm I'm going this he look but it
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wasn't malicious. It wasn't Alec Bowwin
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like if I could beat his brains in I
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would.
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>> No, you were just being
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>> you're making fun of him.
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>> All right. Well, but I know that
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Saturday Night Live got some blowback
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from it. What are you making fun of?
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Biden for you know and and that's the
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problem. You've got SNL now knows its
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audience is 90% liberal. So they're
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feeding them that stuff. It's still
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funny. All right. But they're feeding
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them that.
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>> But I think it got to the point where
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they were allowing it. You could make
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fun of Biden because after that George
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Clooney article, it started to switch
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and then it was like, well,
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>> okay, Dana.
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>> Yeah. in the sand because Lauren had
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asked me to do him when he was still
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going to be the nominee or you know and
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I said okay I'll try you know because I
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knew it was a slippery slope and he had
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to thread the needle even if I was in a
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club or doing it anywhere and then he's
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not running anymore and Camala's in
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there and that's when I emerged but I
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when I came out the first night with my
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Rudolph I was ready for maybe a heckling
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you know so I had it loaded in my head
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in case someone heckled me I'd say get
00:17:30
your facts straight Jack. You know, I
00:17:32
wanted to just get back at him, but it
00:17:34
just started with this. And this isn't
00:17:36
political. He would say these
00:17:37
nonsequiters. This was the hook,
00:17:40
folks. Guess what? And by the way, the
00:17:44
fact of the matter is, no, I'm being
00:17:46
serious here. I'm not kidding around.
00:17:49
So, that was like a little song for me
00:17:51
that didn't make a statement, but I felt
00:17:53
that he was underserved, if you could
00:17:55
say it that way, in the satirical
00:17:57
department during his tenure. whether
00:17:59
whether a president deserves it or not,
00:18:01
you feel like it's it's a good sign of
00:18:03
people are having some fun with the guy
00:18:05
who was in charge of our country. But it
00:18:08
was uh it was fun to go in there and do
00:18:10
that. And the audience at that point
00:18:11
accepted what I was doing. And I don't
00:18:14
really actively hate anyone I do. Like
00:18:18
in my heart, I hate this person. I'm
00:18:20
going to do an impression.
00:18:22
>> You would be the exception. I would
00:18:27
>> because I'm really easy to hate. Um, and
00:18:30
that is uh that is a fact. The other the
00:18:33
other aspect of of what you guys do that
00:18:37
intersects with what I do is that you
00:18:40
have to be honest about it. So, I like
00:18:44
the guy who does Trump now on SNL, the
00:18:47
I've named
00:18:48
>> James Austin Johnson. Yes. Right. I like
00:18:50
him
00:18:51
>> because he's a pro,
00:18:53
>> but and and he gets his lines in,
00:18:56
>> but he he doesn't drip of malice.
00:19:00
>> Okay. He you can see that he he's doing
00:19:02
his job as a comedian to deliver funny
00:19:06
lines.
00:19:07
>> There's nothing wrong with that. Yeah.
00:19:08
>> It's just what it crosses over into the
00:19:11
destruction. When I went out to LA this
00:19:14
weekend, I had a person walk up to me at
00:19:17
uh the HBO studio and goes, "Oh, I was
00:19:20
so happy to have a Republican guest."
00:19:23
And I go, "Well, who's that?"
00:19:26
>> Looking around, "I'm not a Republican."
00:19:29
>> And the person was like shocked. I said,
00:19:31
"I'm a registered independent. What I'm
00:19:34
trying to do is find a best problem
00:19:36
solver for the country and that's who
00:19:39
I'm going to get behind. But I'm not
00:19:41
going to, you know, I am a traditional
00:19:43
American. There's no doubt about it. I
00:19:46
like all that. Uh I think that's why
00:19:49
we're the uh most powerful nation in the
00:19:52
world that's ever existed. And that's
00:19:53
one of the reasons I wrote Confronting
00:19:55
Evil was because we have evil in
00:19:58
America. And I want people to know about
00:20:00
it. And I write about the slave traders
00:20:02
becoming the richest men in the world
00:20:05
>> by doing this horrible stuff in New
00:20:08
Orleans and Virginia. And then I write
00:20:10
about Rockefeller and JP Morgan who are,
00:20:13
you know, Wall Street icons to this day.
00:20:16
They were rotten bastards.
00:20:19
>> Okay. And Teddy Roosevelt took them out.
00:20:23
>> Yeah. Um, and and so I'm I'm the kind of
00:20:27
guy that that isn't an ideologue, and
00:20:30
ideologues bore me to death.
00:20:34
>> I just it's just the same stuff over and
00:20:37
over and over again. The propaganda
00:20:40
stuff, I hate it.
00:20:42
>> Um,
00:20:42
>> well, I think it's smart to be
00:20:44
independent because if you if you say
00:20:46
you're right, everyone just thinks so
00:20:49
far extreme white supremacist or
00:20:51
whatever the labels are. And if you say
00:20:52
you're a Democrat, they think so far
00:20:54
left. So there's tons of people that are
00:20:56
still in the middle that want to think
00:20:58
clearly and just sort of go case by
00:21:00
case, issue by issue. But if someone
00:21:03
gets a whiff, you're one side or the
00:21:04
other, it's immediately a problem or
00:21:06
not. That's that's affecting everything.
00:21:10
When we say we're not political, but it
00:21:12
affects the dating world. My friends are
00:21:14
saying they go on a date and they're
00:21:16
being felt out to see what they are
00:21:18
right away to know if it's going to go
00:21:19
any further. It wasn't like that in the
00:21:21
old days. It's it's come into talk shows
00:21:23
and everything that and comedy that
00:21:25
wasn't like that. Now it's
00:21:27
>> sort of infecting everything and it
00:21:28
really splitting people up.
00:21:30
>> Even families.
00:21:32
>> Families for sure.
00:21:33
>> Yeah. I mean Thanksgiving coming up, you
00:21:36
know, and it's like, okay, here's Uncle
00:21:38
Fred and he's a commie and I'm going to
00:21:40
hit him with the gravy.
00:21:42
>> Uh so even
00:21:44
>> here's Uncle Zoran Mandami at dinner.
00:21:47
Let's see what what happens. One of the
00:21:49
reasons uh I put that knitw with uh uh
00:21:52
Dennis Miller on my show.
00:21:56
>> Finally,
00:21:56
>> the one and only Dennis.
00:21:58
>> Oh my god,
00:22:00
>> what a brain.
00:22:00
>> I I I remember going this is the
00:22:02
greatest story.
00:22:04
>> So I always liked uh Miller because
00:22:08
Miller to me took no BS from anybody.
00:22:11
>> Okay. And I know that to be true. So I
00:22:14
went into Roger Als and I said this was
00:22:16
right after Miller was on CNBC and he
00:22:19
had a monkey on a show. I don't know
00:22:21
whether you guys remember that.
00:22:23
>> Yes,
00:22:23
>> he a monkey. A real monkey. Okay. On the
00:22:26
show.
00:22:27
>> His name is Gleo,
00:22:29
>> right? It was inexplicable. There was no
00:22:31
real reason to have the monkey. But then
00:22:34
there was a monkey and the show did not
00:22:37
do well. Okay.
00:22:39
>> That was that was the jump the shark
00:22:41
monkey. Yeah, the chimp didn't quite uh
00:22:44
his trainer overfed him, you know, and
00:22:46
he likes next thing I know I'm at an
00:22:49
0.2. All right.
00:22:52
>> So, I knew Miller a little bit and I
00:22:54
knew how brilliant he was.
00:22:56
>> Brilliant mind.
00:22:58
>> So, I went into Al's the head of Fox and
00:23:00
I go, "Uh, I want to put Miller on the
00:23:03
air." And he goes, "Why?" He wasn't he
00:23:07
the guy with the monkey? I said, "Yeah,
00:23:09
we won't release the monkey." That's now
00:23:10
his thing.
00:23:13
>> But Als worked at CNBC, so he knew. But
00:23:16
I said, "We're not using a monkey. We're
00:23:18
just going to use Miller." All right.
00:23:20
Just once a week because I want to get a
00:23:22
totally unpredictable take
00:23:26
>> on the country, on the world.
00:23:28
>> Very true. Yeah. You'll get it
00:23:29
>> right.
00:23:30
>> Yeah.
00:23:30
>> And it worked. It worked great. And it
00:23:33
would just boom. It blew up. Everybody
00:23:36
looked forward to it. And then Miller
00:23:37
and I went out on the road.
00:23:38
>> The road. Yeah. Yeah, I remember that.
00:23:40
>> Yeah. And phenomenal
00:23:42
>> huge audiences. Huge. I know from
00:23:45
Dennis.
00:23:45
>> Yeah, we did.
00:23:46
>> We did. Well, the the only uh shows that
00:23:49
I did that were more successful, the
00:23:51
four I did with Trump,
00:23:53
>> which were unbelievable uh about
00:23:55
attendance and and uh grosses and stuff
00:23:58
like that because that was after he lost
00:24:01
the election. Even though he'd never
00:24:02
admit he lost it, he'd lost it. Um u and
00:24:05
we went out to the uh arenas and we did
00:24:08
a history thing. But Miller's
00:24:12
uh to this day uh the way he can analyze
00:24:15
stuff, he just cuts right through the
00:24:18
garbage and gets right to the essence of
00:24:20
how absurd it is,
00:24:22
>> which is what I was looking for.
00:24:23
>> Yeah.
00:24:24
>> No, he's he's amazing. I mean, his quote
00:24:26
at the end of the day, it was like,
00:24:28
Jesus, all I'm trying to do is keep half
00:24:30
my money and kill the bad guys. All
00:24:32
right. You know, that was like a nice
00:24:36
tight way.
00:24:37
>> Now, you guys, you got to tell me
00:24:39
something now.
00:24:40
>> Sure, please.
00:24:41
>> I tried to drag Miller to the
00:24:43
anniversary show, which I was invited
00:24:45
to. I don't know, was it 30th or 31?
00:24:48
Something.
00:24:48
>> He wouldn't he wouldn't go to the SNL
00:24:51
anniversary show.
00:24:53
>> So, I did a skit for them. A What up
00:24:55
skit? Is that the Keenan?
00:24:58
>> Oh, yeah. That's right. Yeah.
00:24:59
>> Oh, you were in that? Uh, I was in that
00:25:02
and I said and then and Michaels was
00:25:05
kind enough to invite me to the show.
00:25:06
Nobody would sit next to me. So I I had
00:25:08
the big road to myself.
00:25:10
>> Was this the 40th or the 50th? Which
00:25:13
which which 10 years ago?
00:25:14
>> 40th.
00:25:15
>> 40th. Yeah.
00:25:16
>> And I and I go, "Miller, you got to come
00:25:18
to the SNL reunion thing with me. Come
00:25:21
on. Be huge." And he wouldn't go.
00:25:23
>> I'll send the monkey.
00:25:29
Do you guys know why I wouldn't go?
00:25:33
>> Um,
00:25:34
that's a tough one.
00:25:36
>> We should have him on right now. I I
00:25:38
>> He wouldn't tell me either.
00:25:40
>> Yeah.
00:25:41
>> I I said, "Mill, there's got to be a
00:25:42
reason."
00:25:43
>> I know he doesn't like tons of fanfare,
00:25:45
but he's kind of private, quiet. I don't
00:25:47
know. I I thought it was that he was
00:25:50
shooting um he was shooting the Bordello
00:25:55
of Blood 2.
00:25:58
>> Dennis was surprisingly
00:26:01
>> good in that movie.
00:26:03
>> Yeah.
00:26:03
>> Surprisingly brilliant.
00:26:05
>> He brilliant.
00:26:07
But I I think with Dennis, like I always
00:26:09
say, of a single update guy to the
00:26:13
camera, you know, there's always the
00:26:14
first guy, Chvy. I think Dennis is the
00:26:16
best to do it. There were teams of Tina
00:26:19
Fay and Jimmy, but I think Dennis is the
00:26:21
best.
00:26:22
>> And then he was sort of other, you know,
00:26:26
he was considered a conservative in
00:26:28
Hollywood in a certain way. So I don't
00:26:30
know, you know, which was unfair because
00:26:33
I I see him as an independent like you.
00:26:35
He just absolutely,
00:26:36
>> you know, he's not an ideal.
00:26:38
>> All you need is to give someone a whiff
00:26:40
and then word spreads.
00:26:42
>> Yeah.
00:26:43
>> And that's what happened with him. Yeah.
00:26:45
>> Nor McDonald was was very good. Um way
00:26:49
ahead of his time.
00:26:50
>> Yes.
00:26:51
>> Um
00:26:52
doing weekend update,
00:26:54
>> right? Time never catch up to norm.
00:26:57
>> There's an example of you're on a show
00:26:59
and your boss doesn't like you, Don
00:27:01
Olmire, and you get fired.
00:27:03
>> And it was ridiculous.
00:27:05
But that being said, I understood uh the
00:27:09
animists.
00:27:10
>> Well, it was norm bananas.
00:27:13
>> You tell him not to do any jokes, he's
00:27:16
going to can't not do them.
00:27:18
>> Yeah. How can I not do it? You'll get
00:27:20
fired. I get that. That's where I could
00:27:22
not do it.
00:27:22
>> Here's my uh Norm story. My 16-year-old
00:27:25
son at the time, Norm is playing Long
00:27:28
Island out in Huntington, and we go to
00:27:30
see him. And uh Norm and I had a very
00:27:34
good relationship. Uh so we went
00:27:36
backstage. So he he looks at uh my son
00:27:39
and he goes, whose name is Spencer, he
00:27:41
goes, "Spencer, I've got one piece of
00:27:43
advice for you." My son's 16. And he
00:27:46
loves Norm.
00:27:48
>> What's that, Mr. McDonald? Don't smoke
00:27:50
crack.
00:27:52
>> It's not a bad nugget
00:27:54
>> of all the advice.
00:27:56
>> Yeah.
00:27:57
>> That's very norm.
00:27:58
>> You start with the softballs.
00:28:01
Right.
00:28:02
>> Yeah.
00:28:03
>> And then my my sons look at me like,
00:28:05
"What? What?"
00:28:07
>> Yeah.
00:28:09
>> No, there's only one Norm and one
00:28:10
Dennis. Those guys, you know, fantastic.
00:28:13
>> And I was and I was privileged to to
00:28:15
interact with both of them. I I have to
00:28:17
say uh because what you guys do is very
00:28:20
very difficult.
00:28:22
>> Thank you.
00:28:23
>> No, it's it's the hardest part of show
00:28:26
>> uh because you got to be on it all the
00:28:28
time. expectations are through the roof
00:28:31
>> and uh you gotta perform. You got to
00:28:33
come through. It's like hitting clean up
00:28:35
for the Dodgers. You know, if you're
00:28:36
gonna ground at the double blaze, you're
00:28:37
a ga be there long.
00:28:39
>> Tina Fey said that once that just every
00:28:41
time you go out on a talk show as a
00:28:43
comedian, you feel you have to kill.
00:28:46
>> You have to kill.
00:28:47
>> And if you don't, then you blame
00:28:49
yourself because who else is there to
00:28:51
blame?
00:28:51
>> I blame the crowd. Yeah.
00:28:53
>> Tina Fay hates me.
00:28:55
>> Tina Feay hates you. hates you.
00:28:59
>> Hold on.
00:28:59
>> So does your blonde.
00:29:00
>> The cuddliest cuddly bear.
00:29:02
>> Amy Polar.
00:29:03
>> Oh, so does the blonde. Me
00:29:05
>> hates me.
00:29:07
>> Not
00:29:09
right.
00:29:09
>> Oh, Amy. Yeah.
00:29:11
>> Hates me to the extent that it's funny.
00:29:13
>> I could see that. Yeah.
00:29:14
>> Yeah. Oh boy. This is the worst. Here he
00:29:18
comes to the Neanderthal of all time.
00:29:21
Here he is.
00:29:22
>> Oh no. Do you your brain do you get your
00:29:26
feelings hurt? Are you a lost ship at
00:29:29
sea or have you gotten post any of that
00:29:32
just knowing where or is that just your
00:29:34
nature from
00:29:35
>> childhood? I mean you
00:29:38
>> take a lot of hits like Trump takes hits
00:29:41
it just keeps going.
00:29:43
>> Listen uh I've been friends with Trump
00:29:45
for 35 years and he's the only human
00:29:47
being I know who can take more garbage
00:29:50
than I can. the guy is like he's like
00:29:53
boom.
00:29:54
>> I couldn't take 1% of that.
00:29:55
>> It's a Star Wars shield there.
00:29:58
>> But when you were raised in Levittown
00:30:00
like I was
00:30:01
>> and in uh post World War II when there
00:30:04
were like uh 80,000 kids on the street
00:30:08
and your parents didn't want you in the
00:30:11
house or why don't you go it's 14 below
00:30:14
zero. No. No. Here's some ear muffs. out
00:30:16
of here.
00:30:18
>> I didn't care what it was.
00:30:20
>> When you're out there with that many
00:30:21
kids unsupervised
00:30:24
in a working class ghetto, which was
00:30:26
what Letown was,
00:30:28
>> you're fighting all the time. I mean,
00:30:30
you're ranking people out. Your mother
00:30:32
is this, you're that, you know. So, by
00:30:34
the time I was 16, I was numb to all of
00:30:36
that.
00:30:37
>> Now, I have a list of people who were
00:30:41
untoward
00:30:42
toward me and my family. There is a
00:30:45
list. Yeah. All right. But usually the
00:30:48
other stupid stuff I just swat it away
00:30:51
and so does Trump.
00:30:52
>> That levit sounds like Instagram
00:30:54
comments in real life.
00:30:56
>> People People People People People
00:30:57
People People People People People
00:30:57
People aren't used to that. They're not
00:30:58
used to the world of that in your face.
00:31:02
They hate you. And not just online.
00:31:04
>> We had to fight, but I didn't get to 63.
00:31:07
When did you achieve your height? always
00:31:11
I was always a big boy as an athlete and
00:31:14
that saved me.
00:31:15
>> I played four sports and then I'd be in
00:31:17
a penitentiary. In fact, when I go back
00:31:19
to my Levittown neighborhood because I
00:31:21
live fairly close there on Long Island,
00:31:24
uh people go, "How come you're not in a
00:31:25
penitentiary? We we the overunder was
00:31:28
you were going to be in there by the
00:31:30
time you're 22."
00:31:31
>> Oh, right. Nobody saw you being a huge
00:31:33
success.
00:31:34
>> No.
00:31:34
>> Did Did you ever get Billy Joel in a
00:31:37
headlock? Yeah. Did
00:31:38
>> you ever get Billy Joel in Thanks for
00:31:40
bringing that up. So Billy Joel Town,
00:31:43
too.
00:31:44
>> Yes, I know. He wrote the song.
00:31:46
>> Yeah.
00:31:47
>> So he lived in the Hicksville section of
00:31:50
Levittown. I lived in the Westbury
00:31:52
section. Letown was so humongous. They
00:31:54
divide up the four um post office. And
00:31:58
that's why Al Franken was calling me a
00:31:59
fraud. Oh, you were up in Le Town. All
00:32:02
right. Yeah, fine. Okay. Uh Al, by the
00:32:05
way, is in prison in Burma right now.
00:32:07
So, you haven't seen him around, it's
00:32:09
where he is.
00:32:10
>> Um,
00:32:11
>> we know all these people.
00:32:12
>> Yeah, he's on the list. Uh, so anyway,
00:32:17
>> Billy Joel and I would cross paths with
00:32:20
same age in the summertime up what they
00:32:24
call the green where there was no air
00:32:26
conditioning. Nobody had air
00:32:27
conditioning. 11,000 112.
00:32:29
>> No [ __ ]
00:32:30
>> He had his crew. I had my crew and we'd
00:32:33
all go up there at night and sing.
00:32:38
Everybody would sing ac cappella.
00:32:39
>> Oh, the Jets and the Sharks.
00:32:41
>> So, yeah. So, Billy Joel, it was August,
00:32:45
middle August, 95, was wearing a leather
00:32:48
jacket. Every night he'd be wearing a
00:32:50
leather jacket. He had the slick back
00:32:52
hair. I go, "Hey, Billy, it's 98.
00:32:55
>> Why do you like the cigarette walking
00:32:59
in?" So I kept in touch with him all
00:33:02
these years. Um and
00:33:05
>> I like he's a good guy. I mean
00:33:08
absolutely a lot of these rock people.
00:33:10
>> I mean you know
00:33:12
>> he has no pretense. Billy Joel no overt
00:33:16
ego at all. He talk to anybody. Yeah.
00:33:19
>> Super talented though. Super
00:33:20
>> good guy.
00:33:21
>> So about 10 years ago I invite him to
00:33:25
dinner over my place. So he comes with
00:33:27
his wife and my two kids are there and
00:33:30
we sang a song at the dinner table. So
00:33:35
in love by the times he was the lead I
00:33:38
was the backup. I thought my daughter
00:33:40
was going to have a heart attack at what
00:33:44
like this and her comment to her friend
00:33:47
her comment to her friend goes Billy Joe
00:33:49
was at my house. I don't know why he
00:33:52
likes my father,
00:33:55
>> my own daughter.
00:33:58
>> So,
00:33:59
are you a good singer? I mean, I know
00:34:01
you're probably not going to
00:34:02
>> carry a tune.
00:34:04
>> I can I can So in love, too. That you
00:34:09
know, I can do that,
00:34:10
>> but he's lights out.
00:34:13
>> So, if you're smart,
00:34:15
>> all you do is
00:34:17
>> do I do that's all you do.
00:34:19
>> Yeah. support the the genius.
00:34:22
>> Stay near Billy. Yeah, for sure.
00:34:24
>> I want to get your hot take on a couple
00:34:26
things.
00:34:26
>> Yeah, let's get some tail.
00:34:27
>> These are these are secular things and
00:34:29
that's when you go to like an apolitical
00:34:31
thing. Okay. Um AI
00:34:35
afraid of it. We're trying to make this
00:34:37
superbrain, these data centers. We need
00:34:39
a superbrain to solve cancer, solve
00:34:41
these things. Excited about it. Hot
00:34:45
take.
00:34:46
>> Yeah, I'm a ly number one. I don't know
00:34:48
anything about any of that. Um, but
00:34:52
>> it's inevitable and I'm going to accept
00:34:54
it. But it will never replace me or you
00:34:59
because AI is not going to be born with
00:35:03
innate talent.
00:35:05
>> Keep that in mind.
00:35:06
>> Okay.
00:35:06
>> We just need it to process a billion
00:35:09
bits of information in a billionth of a
00:35:11
second and tell us
00:35:12
>> how to make fusion energy. Uh, Bitcoin.
00:35:16
Got it. Oh, sorry. David, do you have a
00:35:17
question?
00:35:18
>> I had one. Okay. Is
00:35:19
>> No.
00:35:20
>> Who's
00:35:20
>> I got my money under my bed.
00:35:22
>> Okay. I don't
00:35:24
>> Are you just in bonds? You're not a
00:35:25
stock market guy either?
00:35:27
>> No, I do. I My uh my um financial
00:35:31
advisor, Swifty.
00:35:33
Um we we have a nice portfolio.
00:35:38
>> We believe in capitalism and we've done
00:35:40
Okay.
00:35:41
>> Okay.
00:35:42
>> Do you think Gavin Newsome will be the
00:35:44
next president?
00:35:46
of Bolivia.
00:35:51
Can't be can't be president for one
00:35:53
reason. The hair.
00:35:55
>> Look at all 45 presidents. You can't
00:35:58
have hair like that.
00:36:00
>> And I said that to Mars. I said, "What
00:36:02
you have in common with Newsome is the
00:36:04
hair."
00:36:04
>> Oh, I saw that. Yeah.
00:36:05
>> Guys got the hair.
00:36:06
>> You can't still have a modeling comp
00:36:08
card.
00:36:09
>> You guys both live in California.
00:36:11
>> Yes.
00:36:13
>> So, you know.
00:36:15
Yes.
00:36:15
>> What went on or what goes on out there
00:36:17
is going to be forefront. I don't think
00:36:20
Governor Nuomo has a chance stand up to
00:36:22
the his record in California.
00:36:26
>> I personally don't agree with all these
00:36:28
policies because it's kind of affecting
00:36:29
me. But when you go on the national
00:36:31
scale, sometimes the other states don't
00:36:35
really care. He
00:36:37
>> Yeah, but he's so out there and he's
00:36:40
adopting a lot of the Trump tactics, a
00:36:42
lot of the uh
00:36:43
>> he has done the memes and stuff. Yeah.
00:36:46
>> Yep. Yep. He's doing that. So, I think a
00:36:49
guy like Wes Moore, the governor of
00:36:50
Maryland, probably got a better chance
00:36:53
uh because his record is stronger than
00:36:55
Newsome's record.
00:36:58
>> Yeah. And there's also the voice
00:37:01
and he would be Gavin, what you call a
00:37:05
pretty boy, you know,
00:37:08
>> he's a little pretty.
00:37:08
>> Yeah. Well, it doesn't matter if you're
00:37:11
pretty or not, although Abe Lincoln
00:37:13
certainly wasn't. Um, but actually
00:37:17
Nuome's tenure
00:37:19
really did Spade and I a favor because
00:37:22
in California you can shoplift and
00:37:24
nobody cares anymore. So when we were
00:37:29
Yeah, I did not agree with that policy.
00:37:32
Is that a weird thing to say? It's like,
00:37:35
>> do you think their nominee would be more
00:37:37
toward the middle or more toward the
00:37:38
left?
00:37:39
>> Toward the middle on the Democratic side
00:37:41
because people are tired of the lunacy.
00:37:44
They were every single day. Give us a
00:37:47
rest. Um, and I when I speak to uh
00:37:51
President Trump, which is, you know,
00:37:55
maybe once every two weeks or something,
00:37:57
I go, "Hey, you take a couple of days
00:37:59
off, you know, just
00:38:00
>> Yeah. Just relax a second one."
00:38:02
>> Yeah. Yeah. It just weighs everybody
00:38:05
down.
00:38:05
>> How do we process that energy? He's 79
00:38:09
and you can't keep track. He's in Malay.
00:38:12
He's flying all over. I mean, what is
00:38:15
that about?
00:38:17
>> Hardest working president. in history.
00:38:20
Okay. The and the laziest president was
00:38:23
Warren Harding.
00:38:25
>> Of course I say that every day.
00:38:26
>> That's true. 1920.
00:38:28
>> Unbelievable.
00:38:29
>> That guy
00:38:32
ribbon.
00:38:33
>> If you do another tour with him, will
00:38:34
you call it? We'll do it live. If you
00:38:37
don't call
00:38:37
>> you guys, I know you're trying to make
00:38:39
fun of me, but that's okay.
00:38:40
>> No, I like that. It's the coolest thing
00:38:42
you've ever done.
00:38:43
>> You guys can open.
00:38:45
>> I'd love I'd love to. How's the green
00:38:48
room?
00:38:48
>> I love it.
00:38:49
>> Here's a question.
00:38:51
>> You like diet cokes? He drinks a dozen
00:38:54
diet cokes a day.
00:38:56
>> I know fish McDonald's golfs a little
00:39:00
bit. Ever ready bunny sleeps four, five
00:39:03
hours a night. I mean, I'm just trying
00:39:05
to
00:39:05
>> minutes a night. Not even
00:39:07
>> I have to keep my phone on. This is true
00:39:11
because he comes in between 1 and three.
00:39:14
>> Oh, O'Reilly. You know that kind of
00:39:16
thing. loving what you're doing. You're
00:39:18
tremendous bill. They're after me. We
00:39:21
got a lot of policies. We're going to do
00:39:23
a bill. But anyway, a lot of people,
00:39:25
you're a historian and you have 17 books
00:39:27
killing everybody. Lincoln, whatever. 20
00:39:30
million. I mean, you're an author as
00:39:32
much as you are anything as far as the
00:39:34
sales are extraordinary. I'm just
00:39:36
saying, not not trying to kiss your ass,
00:39:39
but you know, it is amazing what you've
00:39:41
done. And people now think no kings like
00:39:45
okay so break it down for us. If Trump
00:39:49
was to become a dictator in the next
00:39:51
three years what are the steps he's got
00:39:53
to make pretty soon to achieve that.
00:39:58
>> Well first of all the view ladies would
00:40:01
be incarcerated. Uh that would be
00:40:05
let them run around anymore. You know, I
00:40:07
put a I put a chapter in uh Confronting
00:40:10
Evil about Henry VII,
00:40:12
>> Confronting the
00:40:13
>> to show everybody what a real tyrant
00:40:16
king is.
00:40:17
>> I know.
00:40:18
>> You didn't want to date Henry VII. Okay.
00:40:21
No. And if if you're trans, you didn't
00:40:24
want to be in the country. Um you did
00:40:27
not want to be around Henry. Um and and
00:40:30
thank you for bringing up the books. We
00:40:31
are the uh most successful non-fiction
00:40:34
authors in the world.
00:40:36
um 20 number one New York Times
00:40:39
bestsellers and you know how how
00:40:42
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00:40:45
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But you know, I'm reading your book um
00:43:54
and it just the filth and the disease
00:43:57
and just the darkness of all of it is
00:44:00
just always a reminder that we are here
00:44:03
in America. Obviously, there's people
00:44:04
suffering, but yeah, you know, modern
00:44:07
medicine and you can go to the grocery
00:44:09
store. Most people, I mean, it is a good
00:44:11
check because I've seen people in the
00:44:13
street with a latte and their iPhone. I
00:44:16
hear them talking to their friend. Oh my
00:44:18
god, this is the worst time to ever be
00:44:20
alive. I'm thinking they should read
00:44:24
Confronting Evil,
00:44:26
>> you know?
00:44:26
>> Then they jump into the Prius in Valet
00:44:29
Park,
00:44:31
>> right? Americans lack perspective. And
00:44:35
so confronting evil is all about look,
00:44:38
we are not a perfect country. President
00:44:40
Trump is certainly
00:44:43
um not a perfect man, but and that's a
00:44:47
big but.
00:44:49
>> Most Americans are decent people. About
00:44:52
15% of us are evil. That's my uh what I
00:44:56
put on that percentage. 15% of the whole
00:44:58
human race is evil. They'll hurt you if
00:45:01
they can. and they like it. Putin,
00:45:02
that's why Putin's on the cover of the
00:45:04
book. He likes certain people. We don't
00:45:06
have a lot of that in our leadership. Um
00:45:10
Trump sees the world very black and
00:45:13
white.
00:45:14
>> You're either with him or you're against
00:45:16
him. You're against him, you're going to
00:45:17
try to mock you or whatever. If you're
00:45:19
with him, he's your best pal. That's
00:45:22
what he is. Not changing. But from a
00:45:25
historical viewpoint, he's done a lot of
00:45:27
good things. and um he's done some bad
00:45:31
things too, but he is very interested in
00:45:34
his legacy. So, he's not going to try to
00:45:37
take over in the next three years. He's
00:45:39
not going to try to run for a third
00:45:41
term. This is all ridiculous. But you
00:45:43
know what he'll do? And you guys will
00:45:45
find this interesting. Every day, Donald
00:45:48
Trump wakes up for him is two hours
00:45:50
sleep,
00:45:51
>> okay? And his first thought is, "How can
00:45:55
I torture my enemies?"
00:45:59
So he says stuff just to get the view
00:46:02
ladies upset.
00:46:04
>> It works
00:46:04
>> just to get Whoopy Goldberg,
00:46:08
>> right? Yeah. He'll just
00:46:10
>> They take it literally. They take
00:46:12
everything he says literally.
00:46:13
>> And then he loves it.
00:46:16
>> Look at this reaction. Look at MSNBC.
00:46:18
They're setting themselves on fire. Yes.
00:46:21
And now I'm going to say this,
00:46:23
>> he doesn't do any of it.
00:46:26
>> So,
00:46:27
>> you got to understand where he's coming
00:46:28
from. I did that when I was seven years
00:46:30
old, but he continues to do it.
00:46:33
>> Like the whole Canada thing he came out
00:46:36
with, but I think it' be the right. He
00:46:38
was just kidding.
00:46:40
>> Drove people crazy.
00:46:43
>> He didn't like Trudeau. Yeah,
00:46:45
>> Trudeau is a little nebish to him
00:46:49
>> and now she he's But you got to give
00:46:51
Trudeau he's run around Katy Perry.
00:46:52
That's not bad.
00:46:54
>> Okay.
00:46:55
>> He didn't like Trudeau at all.
00:46:56
>> Not bad.
00:46:56
>> So he goes, "How can I annoy Trudeau?"
00:47:00
>> I'm taking it over.
00:47:03
>> Of course.
00:47:04
>> Boom. Okay.
00:47:05
>> Now, does everyone want that from their
00:47:06
president? Not everyone.
00:47:08
>> I know.
00:47:09
>> But but you know, we just had Biden who
00:47:10
was very quiet. So, we've got too quiet
00:47:13
and then we got too loud.
00:47:14
>> He was napping.
00:47:16
>> Yeah.
00:47:16
>> And it was it was a do not disturb sign
00:47:18
over his entire administration. I mean,
00:47:20
that's what it was. And I knew that from
00:47:23
the jump. Uh because Biden was never
00:47:26
never a hard worker. Even when he was a
00:47:28
senator, he was never a guy who's that
00:47:30
interested in public policy. He just
00:47:33
wasn't. Um boy, you should talk to
00:47:36
Barack Obama about Joe Biden.
00:47:38
>> Well, yeah. Anyway, I've read some of
00:47:40
that. If you understand Trump, you won't
00:47:44
hate him as much. That's my message to
00:47:46
Beverly Hills.
00:47:47
>> That's good. I like that.
00:47:50
>> You got to think about not what he says,
00:47:53
but what he does
00:47:55
>> and overseas getting those Hamas guys
00:47:58
out, those hostages.
00:48:00
>> That was one tough deal. And if he can
00:48:04
bring in China
00:48:06
that because I was in China at the
00:48:08
government's request over there, they
00:48:10
were like you. Uh they asked me to be on
00:48:12
their podcast but in person in Beijing
00:48:14
and I and I went over on my own dime.
00:48:17
>> Uh
00:48:20
I passed on that one.
00:48:22
>> No, my son I dragged him because he's a
00:48:24
political science major. Uh he goes,
00:48:26
"Are you sure we know?" And I No, no.
00:48:29
This is once in a lifetime experience.
00:48:30
you're going to be sitting across the
00:48:32
most powerful guys in the second most
00:48:34
powerful nation in the country and three
00:48:36
hours we did. Um, but if Trump can bring
00:48:40
that in and calm things down over there
00:48:42
and get a decent trade deal with them,
00:48:44
huge.
00:48:46
>> Do you think there's any chance we could
00:48:47
create a stronger alliance with them?
00:48:51
>> Yeah,
00:48:52
>> because they're business people. They're
00:48:53
not like Putin's a psychopath. He wants
00:48:55
to kill women and children. It's
00:48:57
impossible to do.
00:48:58
>> So, what do we do with Ukraine?
00:49:01
You have to make a deal with China.
00:49:03
>> Oh, okay. Because they're
00:49:04
>> and I'm involved with this very deeply
00:49:07
with President Trump.
00:49:09
>> It's triangulation they call it.
00:49:11
>> If we can make a deal with China and
00:49:13
China withdraws its support from Putin,
00:49:16
Putin's finished.
00:49:18
>> And that is starting because Trump's
00:49:21
going to sell all the Anoir oil to
00:49:24
Beijing. That means that Beijing doesn't
00:49:27
have to buy it from Putin.
00:49:30
And there's enough up there. It's in
00:49:33
>> Oh my god. The polar bears are covered
00:49:34
with it. I mean, it
00:49:37
>> they're not in weight anymore.
00:49:40
>> Here's two. You got any other Here's two
00:49:42
when I just quick takes. One is
00:49:45
>> that these things un unachievable,
00:49:48
impossible. What would Trump do? the
00:49:50
debt the 38 37 38 trillion and
00:49:54
affordability is all the and that's
00:49:56
going to take time to bring down housing
00:49:59
costs. What what is your thoughts on
00:50:02
those?
00:50:02
>> Well, he knows he knows after last week
00:50:05
uh that the midterms are in jeopardy.
00:50:08
Yeah,
00:50:09
>> he knows and his legacy depends on
00:50:12
keeping the House and Senate in November
00:50:14
26. So, the first salvo was I'll give
00:50:17
everybody two grand. Okay. Um, but if
00:50:21
you look at it, if you go to bill
00:50:23
O'Reilly.com, which is where I live, we
00:50:26
earn that money because Trump wouldn't
00:50:28
get any of these tariffs if not for US
00:50:31
consumers buying the stuff from China.
00:50:33
So, what Trump's doing is basically
00:50:35
charging an admission fee for all
00:50:38
foreign nations to sell their stuff
00:50:40
inside the United States because we buy
00:50:42
more than anybody else by far. Mhm.
00:50:44
>> So, it's us that are making people want
00:50:47
to send stuff here and Trump is
00:50:49
exploiting that.
00:50:51
>> And that's the kind of commentary I do
00:50:53
every day on billi.com.
00:50:55
But it's going to be very difficult to
00:50:58
force people to lower their prices. When
00:51:02
I was in LA, the hotel I stayed at was
00:51:04
charging $36 for a cheeseburger.
00:51:08
$36 for a cheeseburger. So I went out to
00:51:11
In and Out and I got 14 for $36. Sure.
00:51:16
>> You know, and I brought them in and gave
00:51:18
them to all the bellhops. I said, "And I
00:51:20
don't buy that stuff." But
00:51:22
>> to go in it though, don't. So you can't
00:51:24
charge that. So it's a very very
00:51:27
difficult thing. I don't know whether
00:51:29
the Republicans are going to be
00:51:31
successful. However, the Democrats don't
00:51:34
have much and that is the Republicans's
00:51:37
big advantage.
00:51:39
Well, the terms of leadership policies
00:51:42
or whatever
00:51:44
>> when you say the Democrats don't have
00:51:45
much need their policies, a leadership
00:51:49
um
00:51:50
>> all of it across the board. You you said
00:51:52
a $ 38 trillion debt. Well, what do the
00:51:54
Democrats want to do? They want to spend
00:51:56
more and more and more and more and more
00:51:59
and you can't. Now,
00:52:01
>> if you try to lower it, how do you get
00:52:02
reelected? I mean, it's a very difficult
00:52:04
thing for both. promise every Mandani
00:52:07
just got elected comm and he's a
00:52:09
communist he's not a socialist and uh
00:52:12
free bus rides for everybody and the
00:52:13
governor yesterday goes well we don't
00:52:15
have enough money to do that it's $800
00:52:17
million a year to give free bus rides to
00:52:20
everybody and New York state is already
00:52:22
like California in deep in debt where
00:52:24
are they going to get the money and all
00:52:25
the rich people are moving out they're
00:52:28
all going to Florida or wherever and um
00:52:31
where you going to get it so that's what
00:52:34
I say the Democrats can't continue on
00:52:36
this and then they got the woke stuff
00:52:38
and then they got this stuff and you
00:52:41
know if the Democrats had a guy like
00:52:45
JFK, not IRFK Jr., no. All right. But
00:52:49
RFK senior,
00:52:51
>> they'd win.
00:52:53
>> They had a charismatic leader like
00:52:54
Trump, big win.
00:52:56
>> So they're looking for that guy. Yeah.
00:53:00
Well, good looking. Uh, you know, Co
00:53:02
Bear turned it down, but um,
00:53:07
>> um, anyway, this has been a pleasure. I
00:53:10
mean,
00:53:11
>> very, you're never boring, like I said.
00:53:13
And, uh, Bill O'Reilly.com
00:53:16
>> and the No Spin News podcast,
00:53:20
you're everywhere.
00:53:21
>> Yeah.
00:53:22
>> Yeah, we're all And I really appreciate
00:53:23
you guys reading uh, Confronting Evil.
00:53:26
Um, and I hope people will check that
00:53:28
book out. But you learn a lot and it's
00:53:29
it's fun to read. You know, I hate to
00:53:31
use the word fun and evil in the same
00:53:33
thing.
00:53:34
>> It's fascinating. You these names are
00:53:36
iconic. Gangask, whatever. And then
00:53:38
you're into the detail of how they got
00:53:41
so evil, how they got their power and
00:53:43
what happens to them and the people who
00:53:47
risk their lives to take them out. So
00:53:49
that it it's just stories that are
00:53:51
fascinating that happen to be kind.
00:53:53
>> I'm glad you guys liked it. I just want
00:53:55
to say I've always admired your talent
00:53:58
both of you. Um that whole crew uh with
00:54:02
Miller and Norm and you guys. I mean it
00:54:04
was just
00:54:05
>> that was just a highlight of American
00:54:08
television and it was and I uh I'm
00:54:10
pleased to be on with you and thanks for
00:54:12
taking the time.
00:54:13
>> Thank you.
00:54:13
>> Thank you Bill. Appreciate it and we'll
00:54:15
talk soon.
00:54:15
>> Be well. Pleasure.
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