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Jesse Rose, welcome to my podcast.
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Thanks for having me, Dom. Um, I feel
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like I should start by letting you know
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I'm um I'm I'm a I'm a skeptic. I I I
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don't believe in this stuff. Yep. Fair
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enough. Yeah. How How do you find that?
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Understandable. You know what I say? I
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say to anyone absolutely anyone, do not
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believe until you've had your own
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experience. do not believe when you've
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had your own experience. That's your
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journey. That's your your process. You
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can figure that out. Your own experience
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as in as in whether you've had an
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experience with a medium, whether you've
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had your own spiritual experience,
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whether you've had your own, you know,
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you have ghosts come in or anything like
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that. Whether you've had any experience
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whatsoever that makes Well, one thing
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I've been doing this podcast for about 3
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years now. One thing I really love about
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it is just getting to um uh speak to
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like a huge variety of people and you
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trying to understand things that maybe
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you don't understand and you firmly fit
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into into into that camp. Why you
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reached out to me about coming on the
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podcast which is really cool. Yeah. I
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really why how why so one I just thought
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that it was a really good thing because
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you had I did it actually this is how it
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came about. I had you on my radar. I I
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thought about you. I saw something that
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you were doing a podcast and then I was
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like, "Oh, you know what? I'm going to
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message him." And that was maybe the
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beginning of the year. Didn't message
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you. Didn't even think about it. Then
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the other day, randomly, you popped up
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again. And then I was like, "Oh, you
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know what? I'm going to follow him. I'm
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going to send this message." So, I sent
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the message and then you popped
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a a comment from a follower saying, you
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know, their feedback and then you popped
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up a suggestion box. And I was like, you
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know what? Perfect opportunity. Look,
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it's all meant to be. And that's how
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things happen. You know, you're meant to
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go down some sort of path. M. So, you
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think it's like the universe? 100%.
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Because if you ask anyone that I've been
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talking to and in the beginning of the
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year, I was like, I'm going to be on a
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podcast and I don't know where that
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looks or how that looks or why. You know
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what I mean? Is this the first podcast
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you've been on? Yes, it is. Yeah. Well,
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I um I read I read some Google reviews
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um about you um and they were all quite
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good. Jesse Rose was so lovely to talk
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to and on a Zoom call was able to tell
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me my back pain was kidney stones and I
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needed to start drinking lots of water
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ASAP. After six days my back pain has
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completely disappeared. What what's that
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about? You giving health advice? So
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yeah. So basically when it comes to a
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reading I don't know what's going to
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come in. I will sit down. I leave all my
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own stuff at the door and everything is
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about that person sitting in front of
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me. So if I get any pains, uh I do a
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health scan, I do a mediumship, and I do
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a psychic side. You know, my mediumship
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is obviously connecting to people's past
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over loved ones.
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My my psychic stuff is more the clarity
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and future telling and that sort of
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thing. And then the health scan is where
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I will feel referral pains. Clearly, I'm
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not a doctor. I do state that. it if I
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get referral pains or I get something
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then I'm able to or information I'm able
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to inform that that also comes under
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clarity that's not just a health scan
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but some people just want to come to
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know about their health as well so
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here's another one um she knew such tiny
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tiny little details that absolutely
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nobody would know connected to family
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members and her description was spoton
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uh she connects with those that have
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passed with such accuracy and detail
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that uh no one would ever
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know So yeah. So what
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um so so when you when what do you what
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do you see things or do you hear things?
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Like is it a is it a vibe you get? What
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what are you all of the above Dom? All
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of the above. So I hear, smell, sense,
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see, feel, taste,
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touch. Well, touch is under feel, isn't
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it? But you know, all of the above. Um I
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don't know what comes in. Like I said,
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when I'm sitting in front of a client
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and they will everything I feel,
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everything I smell, everything I taste,
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everything I think, everything I see is
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all for them. Nothing for me.
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Occasionally, I'll get things that, you
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know, um what's the word? So like let's
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say a scenario's happened to me. I'll
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get like a reference point and I'll my
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scenario will come in my head and I'll
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go okay this is for you. You've gone
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through this as well. So we'll talk
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about that. So it's just things like
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that, you know. So you you can't do like
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a like a reading on yourself. Oh god.
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No, no, no. You know what? That is the
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hardest thing for a medium to do because
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you've got your own needs and wants in
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the way. You can't, you know, like I've
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been I've been told by a spirit before,
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you know, some things do come through,
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but but do you want to listen to it? So
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you so so like dead dead family members
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or friends of yours you can't
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communicate with? I can. So my brother
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passed away in 2009. It took me 13 years
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to be able to talk to him. So now I can.
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Why so long? Uh, probably because I
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missed him and I had my own blocks. It's
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like when if someone passes away, you
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know, if you're in that grief, you're
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heavy in that grief moment with them.
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You can't you can't see them. You can't
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feel them. You can't, you know, because
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you're too in that grief. So, they kind
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of wait and they come through in dreams
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or they'll come through in other ways.
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You know what I mean? You understand how
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cooked this all? Yeah, absolutely. Try
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telling all my friends when I first
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started doing it. Yeah. Okay. Um, all
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right. Yeah, I've got a bunch of
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questions. Bunch of questions. Go for
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it. Um, can all dear people communicate?
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Yes. Yeah. Yeah. Spirit has no bounds,
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no language bounds, no anything. I have
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clients all over the world. What happens
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when you go into a crowded room? So, say
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you go into a room and there's 50 people
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there. Like, are you I get very anxious,
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very anxious. It takes me a little while
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to be able to actually uh
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enjoy being somewhere because there's so
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many energies around, so many things
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that I'm picking up and I don't know who
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it's for or what it's for unless they
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sit down in front of me, you know what I
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mean? Um sometimes I'll kind of I can
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kind of like gauge. I'll walk into a
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room and I'll have someone in my eyes,
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you know, and they'll highlight kind of
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highlight in my head. You know, when you
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meet someone, you're like, "Oh, yeah."
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You kind of think to yourself, "Oh,
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maybe I know them or or something like
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that." It's kind of like that.
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But I get very anxious at times. And are
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you able to like switch it off?
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Not really. I do try. I do try. Um but
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that's more when I'm at home with family
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and friends. Yeah.
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So is it something that um you've like
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worked on and developed like a muscle or
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is it just something you Absolutely. Um
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so when you first when I first started
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doing it, I don't know. I told you out
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there, you know, I just I had no trust
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in myself. I didn't trust that that's
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what was happening. Everyone else
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believed me, but I didn't. And I think
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that's something that you you have to
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get over is your own fear of being
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wrong, you know? And so the more and
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more I got over that, the easier it was.
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And they send you little signs. So like,
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you know, who's the spirit? Sorry. They
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send you send you little signs like, you
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know, now I know when I get a bunch of
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flowers because that's their death date.
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you know that that's the month that they
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died. So, I'll get the month and I'll
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get a bunch of flowers and I'll be like,
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"Okay." Um, if it's a birthday, I'll get
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a balloon. Um, you know, there's certain
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little things like that that kind of
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resemble things and I can put it into
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place. Right. So, so you see in your
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mind like the like the image of of the
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person that you're communicating with.
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Absolutely. Yeah. Like I know them like
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I've met them before. So, like their
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face and body and Yeah. So, there's
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actually different points. So sometimes
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it comes through with um reference
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points. So like before when I was
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talking to you about your granddad, I
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was like this part here was coming
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through because that's the similarity is
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for you and your granddad. It's that,
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you know, and there's other little parts
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like that that if it's a ring that I
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need to know, I'll only see that that
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part, you know, you'll only see the
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little parts that they want you to know
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or what or that are relevant to the
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situation.
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So, how old were you when you
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when you first realized you had this
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thing? Um, like a toddler or? No, I to
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be fair, when I was younger, I actually
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didn't know what it was. I didn't have
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any idea of what it was or what I was
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doing. It was just kind of happening
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randomly throughout. Wasn't
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until I was 16. Um and my No, actually
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it was until I was 13 and I I told you
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about the bus stop situation and I had a
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friend who we had to get off and her
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grandmother um was about to pass away so
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we had to get off the bus real quick.
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Little moments like that but I still
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didn't know what the hell that was, you
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know. So you just thought it was like um
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an intuition or Yeah. Yeah. like oh for
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some reason I knew we had to go you know
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and it wasn't until
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2021 was or 2020 something around there
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I had my first proper experience where I
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was sitting there and there was a a
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spirit right there and I was like wo you
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know so so you okay so 2020 you were
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like um 30 at the time 31 yeah 31 yeah
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31 right so that's when you had your
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first proper experience Because you hear
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about often you hear about kids with
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this sort of um I I my daughter's highly
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intuitive highly highly intuitive and
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then I suppose it's like a muscle where
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if you don't use it you lose it or you
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can hone on but it seems weird that
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you'd be yes at that late stage of life
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when it sort of I think that we all have
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a path and maybe my path just you know
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that's when that was meant to start not
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prior to that I was meant to experience
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things so that I had things to relate to
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for people I guess you know what I mean.
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Yeah. random. And um yeah, how was that?
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Was that a a confusing time? Absolutely.
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Yeah, absolutely. Like I said, like I
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thought I was going crazy, Dom, I did.
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You know, there were moments where I was
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like, this is just I don't know what's
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going on here, you know, until friends
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and family were like I actually had
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friends ask my ask my family like my
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family would ask my friends, sorry, is
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she okay? You know, are things going on?
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And it wasn't until things started being
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clearer and the things that I was saying
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were coming out and, you know, I was
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getting validation that anyone believed
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me. Well, no, they believed me until I
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believed myself. Sorry. Yeah. Did you I
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mean, it must have been such a confusing
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like Did you think you maybe had like
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schizophrenia?
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There's moments. Absolutely. Like I'm
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not laughing at the You know what I
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mean? Absolutely. I'm just trying to
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picture if if it was me, it would be um
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it' be quite quite alarming. Absolutely.
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Absolutely. And I did I had moments
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where I was like, "Okay, what's going on
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here?" And it wasn't It's only because I
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have knowledge of psychic mediums prior
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to this that I had any idea of what was
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going on or where it was going. Do you
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know what I mean? Yeah. So, as you were
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saying before, like psych psychics and
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mediums are two different things.
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Different things. So, all all mediums
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are psychics because they can perceive
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and receive information. Um, but not all
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psychics are mediums. So you can be a
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psychic who is highly intuitive and just
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perceive you know uh forward events,
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past events, those sorts of things,
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current events. But if you're a medium,
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you actually connect to the spirit world
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and you can, you know, and you know
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what, Dom, every single person can do
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what I can do. Or whether you want to or
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not is a different story. You know what
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I mean? It's like that muscle, you can
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grow that muscle. You can do that. It's
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entirely up to you to develop that or
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not. See, and I wonder if that's why
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people why I say people, but me um feel
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it's like slightly scammy because it's
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if you say anyone can do it. Absolutely.
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And it seems like Absolutely. I mean,
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there's more people who are more, what's
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the word? Um in tune to doing it or
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more, you know, receptive to the
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information. So, they kind of can go in
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that a bit more. But there's some
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people, you know, not everyone's meant
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to be a podcaster, are they? Do you know
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what I mean?
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Not not everyone's meant to be a coffee
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maker or you know what I mean. It's just
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everyone's got their different angles
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and their different things. So, who were
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the first people you told? Oh, uh would
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have been my best friend. She was
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definitely one. We would sit there and
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I'd tell her some things and she'd be
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like, "Oh my god." Like what? Like what
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sort of things? Um I can't even remember
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what had happened actually. I had a had
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a boyfriend at the time and his friends
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there was something about his friend and
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I was I remember standing there. I was
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like getting this information and I just
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I like he was on the phone to them in
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the other end of the room and I was like
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I just need to say these things and then
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what had happened I don't want to
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obviously it's not my place to be
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telling their story but the things that
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I was saying related to what was going
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on not right then but in a week's time.
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So whatever whoever was coming through
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to me for them gave me the information I
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gave it to them. Everyone's like well
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that makes no sense. So I was like, I
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know makes no sense to me, but I just
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have to say it. And then a week later,
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it all made sense.
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And then um who else did you tell? Would
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have been um slowly, really slowly.
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Friends and family and other things.
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What sort of reaction? Yeah. Uh well, um
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I had very mixed reactions. Some people
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were like, "Oh, you're nuts." Um but to
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be fair, they probably thought I was
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crazy before that. Well, the best people
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are a little bit crazy. Exactly. You
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know, I've got a got a lot of ADHD in
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there. So, any any sort of backlash?
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Like, did you lose any friends or
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anything in the No,
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no, not really. Mhm. I think more once
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it
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became proper and I was getting clients
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and things like that and people were
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understanding of it, you know. Before
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that, they were just more concerned
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about me, concerned about my mental
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health, I suppose. Yeah. Which so was I.
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Does um are you are you in a a
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relationship at the moment or are you uh
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no does does it put people off having a
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relationship with you because they're
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scared you can
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can you if you're in a relationship with
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someone can you sort of can you sort of
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see so it actually finds it really
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really difficult to for me to have the
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relationship with them because I see
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ending or I see something or I see this
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you know what I mean and I'm like you
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get mad at them because you know they're
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going to cheat on you yeah or something
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like that and you like you know months
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before you're sitting there going oh I
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have. Yeah. Really [ __ ] me off in
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July. Yeah. Yeah. But like I said, also
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you can't read your own stuff. And I
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find that when I get closer to someone,
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the closer I am with someone like I I
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tried to read like my brother. I can
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read little bits, but it's kind of hard
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because I don't want to see certain
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things. So, I block myself. So, I guess
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um going back to can you block it? I
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guess you can when it comes to family
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and friends because it's like I don't
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want to hurt. I don't want to see that.
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I don't want to see if there's something
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damaging happening. And then that's
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that. You know what I mean? Oh, okay.
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Right. Like when my brother passed away,
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it was like so when um when was it 2007
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he went to Australia that was the I
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would have been maybe
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yeah maybe even No, it would have been
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younger than that
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or somewhere between there anyway. Can't
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really remember. Um he passed away in
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2009 and it was maybe two or three years
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prior to that. So whatever. But I was
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um sitting at the airport in tears. Knew
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something was wrong. Didn't know how to
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put it. Didn't know where to put it or
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didn't know really what it was. Felt
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like I had lost him already. Hadn't lost
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him, but I felt like I had. Then
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everyone was like, "Oh, you're just
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being silly." You know, and I was like,
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"Oh, okay. I'm just being a silly, silly
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young person." And then uh when he
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passed away a couple years later, I was
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like, "Uh, that's what I didn't want to
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see, isn't it? That's what I didn't want
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to know." So I blocked it out for a
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little while.
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Yeah. So yeah. So this was like a whole
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decade before before you sort of I guess
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leaned into it. Um absolutely. Yeah. So
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what did you see at the time? Cuz I I
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suppose like from your family's
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perspective, I mean if you say goodbye
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to like a family member at the airport
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and they're going overseas for an OE or
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whatever. It is there's a sense of loss
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associated. Absolutely. Absolutely. Did
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you could you did you have just a
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feeling he was going to die? It's just
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it was a deeper feeling like I had
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already lost him. Like I was never going
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to see him again and that if he walked
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through those doors, that was it. That
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was all. It was just a feeling. I didn't
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see anything. I didn't, you know, hear
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anything. There was nothing like that.
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It was just he was already gone. The
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moment I walked out of, you know, he
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walked through those doors, he was gone.
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That was it. So, do you still talk to
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him now? Absolutely. Yeah. Like how
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often? Like I said, all the time he
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helps me out. When I get stuck with
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something, you know, I get stuck and I'm
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like, "Hey, hey, mate, can you help me
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out?" He was like, "Yeah, absolutely."
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So he'll tell me things. So does it does
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he remain the same age? No. So spirit
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actually doesn't remain the same age.
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They actually grow with you. So um I had
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a really really hard reading this
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morning actually which was the one about
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their child that passed away. They're
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seven now. However, they're going to
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grow throughout life with her, you know,
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and then in 30 years they'll be 37. Um
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they they might still come through as a
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little boy sometimes, but they'll mostly
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come through as they're older, you know.
00:16:54
Yeah, we were talking about that off off
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off off mic um just a second ago. Yeah.
00:17:00
The reading you had this morning. That
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was the hardest reading with with it was
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after with a mom who had lost her son
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uh to the unthinkable, a a brain tumor.
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And it was just it was one of the
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hardest things I've ever had to
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explain or talk through. But he was so
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cute. He was so cute. And like you know
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when I talk to spirit I talk to them
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like I'm talking to you. I just have a
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good chat with them. But this was a
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little kid. So I had to really get on
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this kid's level. And when this kid came
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to me with these two I did it. Sorry
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it's really really hard. had two trains,
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you know, and came to me and there was
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the the two trains that he was showing
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me. He was really shy and hiding behind
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things and he would run off and then
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come back and he run off and come back.
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Typical kid behavior, you know, but he
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had these two trains and he would show
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me and he goes, "Look at these." And I
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was like, "Oh, that's really cool. Is
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that Thomas? And who's the other one?"
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And he was like, "It's Percy." And I was
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like, "Okay, that's cool. Those were the
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two trains, the last two things he was
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holding before he passed." So that was
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really important for her to hear because
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he was it was validation that he was
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there and showing me, you know what I
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mean? That little bit. So yeah, it was a
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really really really tough and I
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absolutely cried cried and cried and
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cried because you feel it. You feel
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every little bit of every little thing
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being a medium, you know. Um and you
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feel their pain. You feel not only their
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pain, you feel the past of a person's
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pain. you feel just everything. When did
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when did the boy die? Only a month ago.
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So, it was really really soon. Really,
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really recent. Yeah, it was just it was
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like I said the hardest thing I've ever
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had to read for. And I've I've had some
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wild stories. Wild stories. People being
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um whacked in the back of the head. I
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get a whack in my head and I'm like, "Oh
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my god, my head's really sore." You
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know, and I don't know where it's come
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from or what it is, but then it unravels
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and they'll tell me information about
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it. but they generally come with how
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they've passed and they'll give me a
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really bad pain of wherever that is if
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it was painful. Um, yeah, those sorts of
00:19:03
things.
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So, just back to the the boy with the
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trains. So, so so the mom books a
00:19:12
reading with you and and what does like
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what does she tell you? Nothing. Yeah.
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Nothing. She comes and sits down. And to
00:19:18
be fair, I didn't see him at first
00:19:20
because he was hiding. He was hiding
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from me cuz he didn't he didn't like
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strangers, you know. He was a very
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reserved little boy, so he would hide
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behind his mom. And then I was sitting
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there and I have male coming on my left
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side, female coming on my right side,
00:19:30
her grandmother was there, grandfather
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was there. And I was like, "Oh." And I
00:19:34
just watched this little thing run in
00:19:35
front of me. And I to be fair, I thought
00:19:37
it was like a friend cuz normally
00:19:38
friends will come line up about down
00:19:40
here. And I'll be able to family's up
00:19:42
here, friends are down here. Um, but I
00:19:45
was like, "Oh." And it just like ran
00:19:47
past me. And I didn't know at first. I
00:19:49
really didn't until I had run through
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and I was going through her kids and I
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was like, "Oh, you know, you're you've
00:19:54
got this one, you've got this one." And
00:19:56
obviously I can't go into too much
00:19:58
detail cuz that's her her situation, but
00:20:00
I was talking about her children and
00:20:02
about little things there. And then
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there was just this blank on him and
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I'll, you know, I'll write the three and
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then it was just him and I was like, I
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don't know why there's a blank here. I'm
00:20:12
not sure. And she was like, he's passed
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over. And I was like, let me find him.
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the grandfather picked him up, went and
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got went and got him and brought him
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over. You know, it's just like like he
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was sitting here, but he's not. That's
00:20:24
what it feels like to me. Oh, so so
00:20:27
they're they're all together. They're
00:20:28
not like independent. No, no, no.
00:20:29
They're all together. They're all
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chilling. So the the the mother's alive,
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she's in front of me, but the
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grandfather and the grandmother and the
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and she had a miscarriage as well. So
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there was a a little boy um prior to or
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it was either just before or just after
00:20:44
I can't quite remember. Um but so he's
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with his brother because you know that
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child's still a soul. That child then
00:20:50
grows up as well and they were playing
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and he was telling her that well he was
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telling me to tell her that you know he
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had his brother there and that they were
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playing and they were doing all this
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thing and it was really cool. So that's
00:21:00
obviously the reason why the mom came to
00:21:01
see you. She's obviously just in
00:21:04
unimaginable grief. Absolutely.
00:21:06
Absolutely. But what like what was what
00:21:09
was the message or like what did what
00:21:10
did she want to know? She just wanted to
00:21:12
check that he was okay and they they
00:21:14
just wanted to connect. That's the thing
00:21:16
I'm all about. You know, people come to
00:21:17
me for so many different reasons. It's
00:21:19
not just connection. It's not just
00:21:20
clarity. It's sometimes they're on their
00:21:22
own spiritual path. Sometimes they're on
00:21:24
a healing journey. Sometimes they're on
00:21:25
this. You know, there are so many
00:21:27
different facets to what people come
00:21:29
for. The mediumship side. She came to
00:21:32
talk to her son. She came to reconnect
00:21:34
to him. Even though she talks to him,
00:21:36
sorry, every day, it's still she came to
00:21:40
connect to him. And I actually I've
00:21:42
offered her to come back. So, she's
00:21:44
coming back um for a a free reading in
00:21:47
about a month. It was just a bit too
00:21:48
soon because I was so emotional as well.
00:21:50
I was like, I think we need to, you
00:21:53
know, obviously we got all the way
00:21:54
through it, but then I said to her, you
00:21:56
you're welcome to come back. You know,
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it's the least I can do after going
00:21:59
through all that. So she's going to come
00:22:01
back and and have another one connect
00:22:03
with him. So some so someone like that
00:22:05
mom like could she like could she come
00:22:07
and see you like once a month or or is
00:22:11
it sort of redundant? Is it just to be
00:22:13
honest I don't recommend coming more I
00:22:15
mean like I said every situation is
00:22:17
different. Absolutely every situation is
00:22:18
different. You have a uh you know let's
00:22:23
say I've got a client who comes to me at
00:22:24
the moment who's on her own spiritual
00:22:25
journey learning how to be a medium
00:22:26
herself. So she comes every two weeks.
00:22:29
we'll sit down and and we'll have a big
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chat. Then there is a
00:22:33
um you've got
00:22:36
the people who come to just connect and
00:22:39
then they just come maybe once a year.
00:22:41
Then you've got the clarity people who
00:22:42
come and that they only come once a year
00:22:44
as well because or sometimes they'll
00:22:46
come a bit sooner maybe every six months
00:22:47
depending what do you what do you mean
00:22:49
guidance on their life every day
00:22:51
information future past how we get
00:22:54
through things we get through things and
00:22:56
what we're doing you know what I mean um
00:22:58
but yeah that's that's the clarity side
00:23:00
of things
00:23:03
yeah I'm just fixated on that on that um
00:23:06
poor woman me too got me as well Um, he
00:23:10
really did. Yeah. But but if she if she
00:23:12
keeps coming back to see you, like
00:23:13
there's is there any new in like does
00:23:15
will he have stories to pass on or Yeah,
00:23:17
absolutely. So the more and more he gets
00:23:19
comfortable with me. He was a shy little
00:23:21
boy. He didn't want to talk to me at
00:23:23
first. I'm I'm new. He doesn't know me,
00:23:25
you know what I mean? So I had to went
00:23:27
to him and we had to have little chats
00:23:28
and I was like, "Hey Maddie, how are
00:23:29
you? You know, you really get on me
00:23:31
level." And then um you know, I was
00:23:33
like, "Can you tell me?" and then he'd
00:23:34
run away and I'd be like, so I said to
00:23:36
her, I was like, you know, the next time
00:23:38
he come, next time you come, he'll know
00:23:40
me. We'll be able to have more of a
00:23:42
chat. We'll be able to actually get down
00:23:44
and and talk about things because there
00:23:45
were there were blocks and things like
00:23:48
um blank moments. And I didn't know why
00:23:51
there were blank moments, but I think
00:23:52
it's just cuz he was withdrawing and he
00:23:54
was like, "I don't want to tell you. I
00:23:55
don't know you. I don't want to tell
00:23:56
you." And she told me at the end, she
00:23:58
was like, "Oh, that's exactly how he
00:23:59
was. He was very, very reserved to mom
00:24:01
and dad." And I was like, makes so much
00:24:03
sense with how he was as well, you know.
00:24:05
Is it exhausting? How many how many
00:24:06
readings can you do in a day? That that
00:24:09
is a varying question because
00:24:12
um it depends on a lot of things. How
00:24:15
many mediumship readings I have, how
00:24:17
many clarity readings I have. To be
00:24:19
honest, my mediumship readings, they can
00:24:22
drain me if they're super emotional. But
00:24:25
if people, you know, I get people who
00:24:29
come in and we're just laughing. We've
00:24:30
got families sitting in front of us.
00:24:32
We've got generations coming in and
00:24:34
cracking jokes and going on, you know,
00:24:36
and they're really relatable and they go
00:24:38
through. So, one of those really
00:24:39
invigorates me and gives me lots of
00:24:41
energy because we're laughing and we're
00:24:42
going through it. But then if I have
00:24:44
like this morning, that was hard where
00:24:46
it turns into, okay, that's actually
00:24:48
energetically draining as well because
00:24:50
I'm giving everything. You know what I
00:24:51
mean? Yeah. So, the the what does the
00:24:55
process look like? Um you yeah you
00:24:57
mentioned you did some sort of
00:24:58
meditation um or some breathing exercise
00:25:00
in your car before you came in. That was
00:25:02
only because I was bloody nervous.
00:25:05
But do you need to like psych yourself
00:25:07
up or invite the spirits in or anything
00:25:09
or No, because they already they're
00:25:11
coming with their people. Um I just the
00:25:14
moment I I have a caravan. That's where
00:25:16
I do it out of at my house. You know, I
00:25:18
Oh, that sounds very woo woo by the way.
00:25:20
Yes, it does sound very woo. But is that
00:25:22
a house plug? No, it's it's a typical
00:25:25
little caravan. nomad caravan, you know,
00:25:27
with some beds and stuff. It was just
00:25:28
because it was easier than having it in
00:25:30
my house. I you try cleaning your house
00:25:32
constantly with a six-year-old to try
00:25:34
and have people come in. It was just
00:25:36
getting a lot, you know, so I was like,
00:25:37
"Okay." And then I can work in the
00:25:38
school holidays and stuff as well
00:25:40
because she's inside and I'm I'm
00:25:41
outside. So, it's just an option. It
00:25:43
does sound very weary, but it's not. Um
00:25:46
but you know it's just a safe space that
00:25:49
a safe place sorry that you know my
00:25:51
client comes in when I walk into that
00:25:52
door I leave all of my anything anything
00:25:56
I have anything I've gone through
00:25:57
anything I'm feeling at the door I do
00:25:59
not take it in there anything I'm when
00:26:02
I'm sitting in front of that client
00:26:03
anything I feel anything that comes in
00:26:06
is for that client and for that client
00:26:07
only. M and do you hold any information
00:26:11
back like if you get some bad news or
00:26:13
sometimes I do. Um now this is more of a
00:26:18
moral thing because sometimes people
00:26:22
aren't ready to hear what I have to say
00:26:24
and I know that um you know you know
00:26:28
what 90% of my clients have someone or
00:26:31
are ADHD and they're struggling with
00:26:33
that. So they come this is for my
00:26:35
clarity readings. come and I'll tell
00:26:37
them about that because that's something
00:26:38
that I'm I'm very knowledgeable in, you
00:26:41
know, because I've got it myself. So, I
00:26:43
can relate to them and I can help them
00:26:44
through that. If someone comes to me
00:26:45
though and their their daughter has
00:26:47
ADHD, but they're not ready to hear it,
00:26:49
I'll say, "Do you know that you've got
00:26:50
ADHD in your family?" And they'll go,
00:26:51
"No, we don't." And I'm like, "Okay,
00:26:53
cool. We won't say anything, you know,
00:26:55
cuz there's no point in upsetting the
00:26:56
apple cart for them. Let's just go on
00:26:57
with what they here to hear." Little
00:26:59
things like that. Otherwise, if it is
00:27:03
super I try not to just little things
00:27:06
like that to be honest. I really try not
00:27:07
to hold back. But if if say you're doing
00:27:08
a reading with someone and you you could
00:27:10
you you can see or you sense that
00:27:12
they're going to be dead within a year
00:27:13
or two years or Oh, I have a story for
00:27:16
you. Um I went to a retreat one time. I
00:27:19
was a guest at this retreat. I had this
00:27:21
beautiful lady come to me. We had a good
00:27:23
reading. Her mom had just passed away
00:27:25
about a year before. Anyway, I sat in
00:27:27
front of her. I'm so grateful she knew
00:27:30
because I wouldn't have been able to
00:27:32
tell her that she had terminal brain
00:27:34
cancer. Um, but she sat in front of me
00:27:36
and I said, "Oh." I said, "Do you know
00:27:40
about your head?" And she goes, "Yes."
00:27:43
And I was like, "Fuck."
00:27:45
Oh my god, thank God.
00:27:48
If she said no, what was your need? I
00:27:50
would have been like, "Hey, you you need
00:27:51
to go to a doctor now." Now. Right now.
00:27:54
Like, let's Yeah. Like, don't finish it.
00:27:56
you need to get in the car and go right
00:27:57
now because you know she she had already
00:28:00
been told to be mentally, physically,
00:28:02
and spiritually in that order. I think
00:28:05
it was spiritually first um aligned,
00:28:07
which is normally what they'll say if
00:28:09
you've got terminal something, you know,
00:28:11
kind of get you to align all of those.
00:28:14
What about if if someone's coming to you
00:28:16
and their partner's being unfaithful or
00:28:19
something? Is that something you say?
00:28:20
Absolutely. Absolutely. And what do you
00:28:23
say anything about that or Absolutely.
00:28:25
Absolutely. I tell I promise you anyone
00:28:26
who comes and sits in front of me, if
00:28:28
it's on their mind, it will come
00:28:30
through. You know, if it's something
00:28:31
they're concerned about, it will come
00:28:32
through and I will say it. I will tell
00:28:34
them. I will, you know, there are
00:28:36
certain things that like I don't know.
00:28:37
If I don't know it, it's because there's
00:28:39
a reason for it. You know, we're not
00:28:41
meant to know or there's they have to go
00:28:44
through that to go on a certain journey
00:28:46
or go and experience something else. But
00:28:48
no, for me, always tell someone that
00:28:51
their partner's cheating. That's that
00:28:53
seems very dangerous. Like what if it's
00:28:55
just a platonic friendship and work
00:28:58
because it's definitely not.
00:29:03
Yeah. No, you know, if it's a platonic
00:29:05
friendship, I'll know that. I'll know
00:29:07
that it's a platonic friendship and I
00:29:08
will say, "You have nothing to worry
00:29:10
about with that woman, you know, or that
00:29:12
man. You have nothing to worry about."
00:29:14
Um Yeah. Have you ever had had an
00:29:16
experience with a spirit that scared you
00:29:17
or was Yeah. Yeah. Actually, um and it
00:29:21
wasn't really even scary. It was more so
00:29:24
that it was 5:00 in the morning and I
00:29:25
didn't want to be woken up. But I was
00:29:27
laying in bed and my dog was at the end
00:29:29
of the bed and they normally would come
00:29:31
to the end of my bed and my friend's
00:29:33
grandmother had passed away. It was 5:00
00:29:34
in the morning. I'd never met her, but
00:29:36
she knew what I did. So, of course, I'm
00:29:38
her first point of contact cuz her
00:29:39
granddaughter's over here and I had to
00:29:42
call her granddaughter to tell her. But
00:29:43
she already knew, thank goodness. But
00:29:46
anyway, I was laying in bed and it was
00:29:47
5:00 in the morning and the dog just
00:29:48
starts barking his ass off and I was
00:29:50
like, "What is going on?" I wake up and
00:29:52
I see the spirit at the end of the bed
00:29:54
and then I was like, "Oh my god, do you
00:29:55
mind?" And then it moved over. It goes,
00:29:57
"Oh, I'll just move over here to stop
00:29:59
the dog barking." It was this really
00:30:00
sweet little voice and she moved over to
00:30:03
the side of the bed. And I didn't even
00:30:05
realize who it was or what was going on,
00:30:07
but I was like, "Hey, could you do you
00:30:09
mind? Could you go away and come back in
00:30:11
a reasonable hour?"
00:30:13
And I felt really bad obviously because
00:30:14
it was my friend's grandma. Um but then
00:30:17
my friend called me and I was like,
00:30:18
"Hey, I think your grandmother came
00:30:19
through to me cuz she was like, "Oh, my
00:30:20
grandmother passed away last night." I
00:30:22
was like, "Oh my god, that makes so it's
00:30:23
your grandmother who came through." You
00:30:24
know, like Yeah. Oh, and the
00:30:27
orb or Oh, did I tell you I haven't said
00:30:31
anything about this or the other day was
00:30:33
one of the coolest experiences I've ever
00:30:35
had. And I honestly going back on
00:30:37
thinking I was crazy. I would have
00:30:38
thought I was crazy, but my daughter saw
00:30:40
it too. And the the other person who was
00:30:42
with this as well also saw it. So I
00:30:45
don't know if you know about orbs. I
00:30:47
didn't know anything about them either,
00:30:48
but this is it's a white ball that looks
00:30:50
like smoke and it was kind of like it's
00:30:52
about this big. Anyway, I get out the
00:30:54
car. I just taken my daughter to the
00:30:56
A&E. So I was quite panicked. Didn't
00:30:58
know what was going on cuz I can never
00:30:59
really read things like that, you know,
00:31:01
especially when you're on your own
00:31:03
panic. I get out the car. We just got
00:31:05
back. She was okay. And I look up and
00:31:07
there was this orb and it just floated
00:31:08
past like this. that I said to I was
00:31:11
like, "Did anyone just see that? What
00:31:13
what was that?" My logic brain clicks to
00:31:14
like, "Is anyone smoking around? What's
00:31:16
going on? Like, where is that come
00:31:18
from?" And then my psychic brain was
00:31:19
like, "Oh my god, that's what that was."
00:31:21
And my daughter goes, "I saw it." And
00:31:23
she climbs out the car and goes, "Oh my
00:31:24
god, mom, it just dissipated into
00:31:26
smoke." I was like, "Wa, okay." If if
00:31:29
she hadn't have, I thought I fully would
00:31:31
have thought I was going crazy. Wow. Um,
00:31:34
what do you what do you think happens
00:31:35
after we die?
00:31:37
I wish I
00:31:39
knew. I
00:31:44
think we It's This is a hard one because
00:31:48
there's so many different like and I've
00:31:50
I've spent time asking spirit. They
00:31:52
can't tell you. Our brains can't
00:31:53
comprehend where they are or what
00:31:55
they're doing. But energy is perpetual
00:31:57
motion. And I believe that we are just
00:31:58
energy and that when we when our
00:32:00
physical body goes, our energy will
00:32:02
still move around. So we can go wherever
00:32:04
the hell we want. We can come to the
00:32:06
people we love. We hang around.
00:32:07
Normally, we'll hang around the people
00:32:08
we love and just take care of them until
00:32:10
they meet us and then go from there. But
00:32:12
I genuinely wouldn't know where the hell
00:32:13
anyone is, you know. So, you don't do
00:32:16
you don't believe in like a heaven or a
00:32:18
hell or anything? No, I don't think I
00:32:22
don't. I don't know. I don't think so.
00:32:26
And I think it's too it's too black and
00:32:29
white for what I know of spirit world
00:32:31
and what I know of spirit, you know, and
00:32:33
the things that they can do and the
00:32:34
things they can see and the things they
00:32:35
can tell me. It's too black and white to
00:32:37
have a heaven in hell. You know what I
00:32:38
mean?
00:32:40
Yeah.
00:32:41
Yeah, I've got some some friends that
00:32:43
have that that have passed away, like
00:32:45
like big personality friends, and you
00:32:47
sort of think if if if there is such
00:32:48
such a thing as an afterlife, and if
00:32:50
anyone's going to, you know, come back
00:32:51
and make their presence felt or
00:32:52
whatever, it would be it'd be Cooj or it
00:32:54
would be Daryl or, you know, it be Jazz
00:32:57
and you none of these things have
00:32:59
happened. Like, how do you explain
00:33:01
something like that? Maybe they're just
00:33:03
not coming to you. Maybe they're going
00:33:04
to their children or their mother or
00:33:06
their someone else. You know what I
00:33:07
mean? Maybe I wasn't as good a
00:33:10
I bet you I bet they're still around.
00:33:12
You know they're still around and I'm
00:33:13
sure I could if you give me a minute I
00:33:15
can find one or two. You know
00:33:17
reincarnation you believe in that? I
00:33:19
actually this one's a interesting one
00:33:21
because I kind of do. I think there's
00:33:24
something around about our you know we
00:33:25
have so many lives. Um because I know
00:33:28
I'm not much into past lives and things
00:33:30
like that. Like I just it's too there's
00:33:32
nowhere to validate it. So it doesn't
00:33:34
work for me, you know, like well, it's
00:33:35
it's [ __ ] It pretty much like
00:33:37
sitting in front I can tell you. I could
00:33:39
sit there and go, "Oh, you've had six
00:33:40
lives, which is all good if that's what
00:33:42
I'm feeling. That's what you're you're
00:33:44
needing to know." But I don't know
00:33:46
whether you were your mother, your
00:33:47
father, or who the hell you were in your
00:33:49
past lives. You know what I mean? I do
00:33:50
know that your your soul evaluates. Like
00:33:53
I'm sure I've come here a million times
00:33:54
cuz I've got to learn. But I think our
00:33:56
whole purpose of being here is to learn
00:33:58
how to move through the world even
00:34:00
through hurt but with love and kindness
00:34:03
and care, you know. And I know that
00:34:05
sounds really
00:34:06
like, you know, peace loving hippie, but
00:34:08
it's really it is. It's all about the
00:34:11
[ __ ] things that happen to us and moving
00:34:13
through those with kindness and peace
00:34:15
and love and being able to still
00:34:17
function and be okay. You know what I
00:34:19
mean? Yeah. And if you can't move
00:34:20
through the world after being through so
00:34:22
much hurt or you hurt so many people,
00:34:23
you're going to come back. you're going
00:34:25
to come back and you're going to try
00:34:25
that again. Do you know what I mean? And
00:34:27
I think that's that's reincarnation.
00:34:29
Yeah. And are there common um like
00:34:31
themes or messages that Absolutely.
00:34:34
Yeah. So this is the thing they
00:34:36
generally come in themes. One week I had
00:34:39
this is just my my clarity side. I had a
00:34:42
and this is three different families.
00:34:44
Okay. So three different families. I had
00:34:45
a
00:34:47
a a dad whom you know the mother had
00:34:52
passed away. He remarried an Asian
00:34:54
woman. The kids weren't happy cuz the
00:34:56
money goes, you know, everywhere else.
00:34:58
So I had one week I had the Asian woman
00:35:00
come to me completely same same scenario
00:35:03
but different family. I had the dad come
00:35:05
to me. Same scenario, completely
00:35:07
different. Had the kids come to me. You
00:35:08
know what I mean? Like no one knew each
00:35:10
other. They weren't the same same
00:35:12
families. But it was the theme of it and
00:35:14
that was that one week. And then you
00:35:16
know one week I might have just brain
00:35:18
brain stuff which has been happening
00:35:19
this week probably why I'm talking about
00:35:21
the brain. um you know that and then
00:35:24
there's been other themes like you know
00:35:26
you'll have people come in and it'll
00:35:27
just be about their grandmothers and
00:35:29
it's just grandmothers who come through
00:35:30
or there's themes
00:35:32
about there's so much there's so much
00:35:35
it's just you know sitting down having a
00:35:37
really good chat about someone or
00:35:39
something
00:35:41
just yeah and the themes just come what
00:35:45
do you think um the spirit world want us
00:35:48
to know about living our best lives they
00:35:50
just want us to be Honestly, every
00:35:52
single person who's passed over, there's
00:35:54
just where they are, they have no
00:35:56
negative feelings. Like, there's zero
00:35:58
negative feelings. I've had one
00:35:59
meditation. This is going to sound
00:36:01
really out the gate. Um, but unless
00:36:04
you've experienced it, you won't
00:36:06
understand it, but I had one meditation.
00:36:08
I was sitting there one day and I went
00:36:10
into this place and it was just, it was
00:36:12
white and all is like, I could say, you
00:36:14
know, um, the movie with Morgan Freeman,
00:36:17
I think it's Morgan Freeman, and the guy
00:36:18
dies. Uh, was it Jim Carrey and Morgan
00:36:20
Freeman? I think you know the the one
00:36:24
what was that one? You know the one? Was
00:36:26
it Click? Was it the remote? Yeah. Do
00:36:28
you know? Yeah. Yeah. I think I think
00:36:31
it's that movie. Anyway, they're in this
00:36:32
like um like warehouse and it's white
00:36:36
and they've got the filing cabinet. Oh,
00:36:38
was it um Even Almighty or something?
00:36:40
Yeah, sorry. Sorry. That's the one.
00:36:42
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Um anyway, and so this
00:36:44
is what it reminded me of that room. And
00:36:46
I was standing at the door and I look in
00:36:48
and I just see all these souls
00:36:51
going, you know, past me. And when I
00:36:53
looked in there, I just felt the most
00:36:55
peace I'd ever felt in my life. There
00:36:56
was no negative feelings, nothing that
00:36:58
was going on that was horrible or
00:37:01
anything. Then I came out of it and I
00:37:03
was like, "Oh my god." And I've never
00:37:04
been there since. I've never been able
00:37:06
to get there in a meditation again. And
00:37:08
I think that was a catalyst to helping
00:37:10
me understand that side of things
00:37:12
because I was so curious, you know. And
00:37:14
um what's the most unexpected or unusual
00:37:17
thing that a spirit's communicated with
00:37:18
you?
00:37:23
Oh, what?
00:37:28
Probably having a client have
00:37:29
fornications with the spirit.
00:37:32
Yeah. I don't know. I don't know how it
00:37:33
works, but you you can if it's in your
00:37:35
mind, you can you can do something like
00:37:38
that. I had a client come to me and was
00:37:39
like, I've I've done this with the
00:37:41
spirit. Is this real? And I was like,
00:37:43
absolutely. If that's what you're
00:37:44
feeling, absolutely. It's all feeling,
00:37:47
all energy and all that sort of thing,
00:37:48
you know? I don't know how how does it I
00:37:51
don't know. I didn't ask. Does it count
00:37:52
as So, you're in a maring relationship.
00:37:54
Does that count as infidelity if you if
00:37:57
you're [ __ ] ghost? I doubt
00:37:59
it. Out of sight, out of mind. Right. Is
00:38:01
it sort of like um Oh, all I can think
00:38:03
about is um like Whoopy Goldberg and
00:38:05
Demi Moore and Ghost. Ah, I think I've
00:38:08
seen that one. I didn't know. I don't
00:38:09
know the reference, but Yeah. Yeah. Um
00:38:12
are there any um myths about mediums or
00:38:14
the spirit world that you'd like to um
00:38:16
clear up? We're not all witchy poo woo
00:38:19
woo, you know. We're really not. We are
00:38:22
um we are like me. I'm a normal person,
00:38:26
you know. I go to work, I come home, I
00:38:29
take my daughter to school, clean my
00:38:30
house. My house is a mess at the moment.
00:38:32
You know, I'm a normal person. There's
00:38:33
no um I have anxiety. I go through the
00:38:37
motions. I feel things. I have moments.
00:38:40
You know, we're not all not all psychic
00:38:43
mediums are have our [ __ ] together. You
00:38:45
know, we're all the same. We've all got
00:38:47
our own issues and we all go through
00:38:49
things. I think it's more Yeah. that
00:38:52
kind of thing, you know, like if I meet
00:38:54
anybody, anybody from any walk of life
00:38:56
that that tells me they've got their
00:38:58
[ __ ] together, I know they're lying.
00:38:59
Absolutely. Right. But we're all a
00:39:01
little bit [ __ ] up. Absolutely.
00:39:03
Absolutely. And especially when you deal
00:39:05
with that stuff all the time, I think
00:39:06
people think that you
00:39:07
are like I have my ability to hold my
00:39:10
[ __ ] together. I have that ability, but
00:39:13
by a thread some days. Yeah. You know,
00:39:15
exactly. By a thread some days. Some
00:39:16
days I will
00:39:18
I'll leave my caravan and I'll walk out
00:39:21
and that's me. I'm an absolute mess, you
00:39:23
know, and that's because of whatever my
00:39:25
own stuff or whatever stuff I've dealt
00:39:27
with for that day as well. Do you do you
00:39:29
feel um you mentioned just before uh
00:39:32
that you've got a daughter and the
00:39:34
school thing? Do you do you do you feel
00:39:35
any sort of um you know stigma or
00:39:38
judgment or negativity from other
00:39:40
parents when you sometimes do sometimes
00:39:43
but I actually think it's more in my own
00:39:45
head you know and that's my rejection
00:39:47
sensitive dysphoria with my ADHD is more
00:39:50
I know when someone's not interested in
00:39:52
it and you know I'll often say they'll
00:39:54
go oh what do you do for work I'm a I'm
00:39:55
a grief counselor because it's it's
00:39:57
easier than sitting there going I'm a
00:39:59
psychic medium sometimes they'll turn
00:40:01
around and go I'm a psychic medium they
00:40:02
go oh and you're like Yeah, I get it.
00:40:05
It's all right. Don't worry. You don't
00:40:06
have to understand it.
00:40:08
Well, yeah. Yeah, that's the thing.
00:40:10
Well, I don't I don't understand it, but
00:40:12
it's um it's still great to sit with you
00:40:13
today and chat about it. Absolutely. And
00:40:15
that's the thing I think, you know, you
00:40:17
don't have to understand. Like I said in
00:40:18
the beginning, don't believe until
00:40:19
you've had your own experience until
00:40:21
someone has come to you and been like,
00:40:22
hey, or you've had a spiritual
00:40:24
experience for something. You know what
00:40:26
I mean? Yeah. So, so when you're doing
00:40:28
like let's say the school pickup, um if
00:40:30
you're talking to another one of the
00:40:31
parents and you see something, do you
00:40:32
just bite your tongue or I've had this
00:40:35
experience as well where I've I do say
00:40:37
things, but that's just my kind empathy
00:40:39
nature as well. Like I just I want to
00:40:40
You share share the information
00:40:42
unsolicited. Like what what sort of
00:40:43
information? Oh, no. It's only people
00:40:44
that I do know. I will never ever share
00:40:46
anything unsolicited.
00:40:48
No, no. I don't ever just walk up to
00:40:50
someone and be like, "Hey, so hey, make
00:40:52
sure you put your seat belt on." Yeah.
00:40:54
Yeah. It's not like the TV shows, you
00:40:56
know. Oh, there was I was I was at a pub
00:40:58
one time. Actually, this is probably the
00:41:00
only time that I've ever done that. This
00:41:02
guy comes up. He was standing there and
00:41:04
he had a bung shoulder and he was about
00:41:06
to go to Wanuka. And I just I think I
00:41:08
had like his grandmother or I had
00:41:09
someone or I think it might have even
00:41:11
been his mom come to me and was like,
00:41:12
"Tell him to look after that shoulder."
00:41:15
And I just walked up to him. I was like,
00:41:17
"Hey, hey, man. I'm Jess." You know, had
00:41:20
a bit of a chat and I was like,
00:41:22
"Ah, this is what I do. are you open to
00:41:25
hearing what I have to say? And he was
00:41:26
like, "Yeah, whatever." You know,
00:41:29
whatever. Yeah. Yeah. And anyway, he was
00:41:32
like, "Oh, if you can tell me the color
00:41:33
of my sister's hair." And I was like,
00:41:35
"Boom. Is it's bright orange." And she
00:41:38
he was like, "Okay, I'm listening."
00:41:39
Because he's pitch black. His, you know,
00:41:42
like the hair and everything is just I
00:41:44
don't know. Had she passed over? No. No.
00:41:46
No. No. No. How can you? Cuz I can see
00:41:48
living and and passed over. like I can
00:41:50
see all you know um I don't know where
00:41:53
it goes sometimes I don't know that's
00:41:55
your story so you know it'll come in and
00:41:57
I'll be like hey this is what I'm seeing
00:41:59
who's that where does that fit in for
00:42:01
you um and other people come in front
00:42:03
and they you know come and sit in front
00:42:04
of me and they think they're open and
00:42:06
they're not and so their information can
00:42:07
be kind of blurred because of that you
00:42:09
know they'll come and sit in front of
00:42:10
you and go no I'm ready for this but
00:42:12
really they've they've actually got
00:42:13
their inbox in there um
00:42:16
sorry what was I saying oh um but oh
00:42:19
Yeah. And then his shoulder shoulder. So
00:42:21
he Yeah. So then I said to him, I was
00:42:24
like, "Look, you're about you have to
00:42:26
listen to me here." I was like, "When
00:42:27
you go to Wanukica, do not take your
00:42:29
shoulder out of your cast, out of your
00:42:33
sling thing." And he was like, and his
00:42:35
friend pops over and goes, "He took it
00:42:37
out this
00:42:38
morning." I was like, "I'm telling you,
00:42:40
if you do that, you're going to end up
00:42:41
having another surgery while you're down
00:42:42
there, ruining your holiday. So don't do
00:42:44
it." you know, and that was because his
00:42:46
his family member was telling me and he
00:42:48
only listened because I was able to
00:42:50
validate something for him. Wow. Yeah.
00:42:52
So, probably the only time I've
00:42:54
unsolicited.
00:42:56
So, so a typical reading like what does
00:42:58
it what does it what does it look like
00:42:59
for you and what what do you hope um
00:43:01
yeah the clients take away from the
00:43:03
experience. If I leave them 80% better
00:43:05
than when I found them, I've done my
00:43:07
job. 80%'s a lot. 80%'s a lot.
00:43:09
Absolutely. I am for 90, but you know,
00:43:11
like you can't if I've left them 80%
00:43:14
better than I found them, which I do.
00:43:16
You should see the the people walking
00:43:18
out. That's where I get my joy is when
00:43:21
they walk out with a smile on their face
00:43:22
or they feel lighter cuz I've taken
00:43:24
their stuff, you know? I've taken their
00:43:26
burdens or I've helped them understand
00:43:29
why something's happening, the wider
00:43:31
view of why something's happening. Do
00:43:33
you know what I mean? Yeah. And um so I
00:43:37
mean a good example of this is like the
00:43:39
little seven-year-old boy with the brain
00:43:41
tumor in the trains, but um have there
00:43:43
been any any other readings or
00:43:44
connections that like um deeply affected
00:43:46
you? Yeah. Um I've had a few like there
00:43:50
has
00:43:54
been a lot of reading. I've I've done
00:43:57
thousands of readings, so it's it's hard
00:43:59
to pinpoint,
00:44:01
but more so I guess I don't know.
00:44:08
H that one that one's just on the
00:44:10
forefront of my mind. It was so it was
00:44:12
so hard. Yeah. You know, I suppose it's
00:44:14
your recency bias as well happened.
00:44:16
Absolutely. Yeah. So, it's you know, has
00:44:18
kind of overtaken my thoughts. But I
00:44:20
have had and they are wide variety of
00:44:22
readings. I get people coming like I
00:44:23
said for all types of reasons. you know,
00:44:26
they can sit in front of me, they're
00:44:27
here for a mediumship reading, or
00:44:28
sometimes they'll come for a clarity
00:44:30
reading, not realizing that actually
00:44:31
they need a mediumship reading. So, I'll
00:44:33
change that and I'll give them that
00:44:34
medium reading, you know, I'll be like,
00:44:36
"Hey, such and such is here. This
00:44:38
person's here." You know, every single
00:44:40
reading affects me somehow and it's
00:44:42
because my heart's in it for them, you
00:44:44
know, and I can feel their pain and I
00:44:46
can see the connection that they've had
00:44:47
with that person that's in spirit and I
00:44:50
Yeah. So, every single reading has
00:44:52
deeply affected me. Yeah. And what's the
00:44:54
most um fulfilling part of the job do
00:44:56
you think?
00:44:58
Like I said, just leaving people leaving
00:45:00
people 80% better and having their
00:45:02
smile. When people turn around to me and
00:45:05
say, "You have done wonders today. Thank
00:45:08
you so much." You know, you've you've
00:45:09
actually just helped me clarify a bunch
00:45:12
of stuff. You've helped move through
00:45:13
something. That's me. That's because
00:45:15
I've helped someone. That's my sole goal
00:45:18
in life. Um when I was little that way,
00:45:20
people used to be like, "Oh, where are
00:45:21
you going to be?" I was like, I just
00:45:23
want to help people. So, I guess that's,
00:45:25
you know, that's what I'm doing,
00:45:28
helping. And what what would you, if
00:45:29
someone's listening to this that thinks
00:45:31
they've got like some sort of um some
00:45:33
sort of an ability, um like what would
00:45:36
you advise people? What what should they
00:45:37
do with it? They should Well, it
00:45:40
depends. If they want it, follow it.
00:45:42
Have a look at it, you know, go down
00:45:44
that path. Um if they don't, there are
00:45:48
ways that you can block it. Um, I don't
00:45:50
know them, but there are ways. You have
00:45:52
to go and and find that out somewhere
00:45:54
else. But if you do have the ability and
00:45:56
things are going on right now. Sorry,
00:45:59
your dog. What's he doing? Is he licking
00:46:01
your face? He licked my foot.
00:46:04
Oh, no. He's biting your foot.
00:46:07
It's all right. He's fine. I have a
00:46:10
puppy, too. He's like, "Why did you just
00:46:12
wake me up?"
00:46:14
Why did you light my foot? You're
00:46:15
getting weird vibes.
00:46:18
He's like, "Oh god, this is weird energy
00:46:20
in the room." Look at his little tongue.
00:46:22
He's such a gorgeous thing. He is. Um,
00:46:25
sorry, I forgot. Oh. Yeah. What would
00:46:28
your advice be to someone that got
00:46:30
something? It's just, you know, go and
00:46:32
meditate and find out. Follow ask if
00:46:35
you're thinking something, ask someone.
00:46:37
always ask if it's for someone and and
00:46:40
elaborate on it because that's the only
00:46:41
way you're going to understand whether
00:46:43
it's thoughts or whether there's
00:46:45
something deeper going on that you need
00:46:46
to go and maybe get checked out for but
00:46:48
because there is a fine line I think
00:46:51
between mediumship and mental health
00:46:54
very very fine line you know if you how
00:46:56
do you mean can you elaborate on that if
00:46:57
you're not firmly planted in this world
00:46:59
you could easily float off and believe
00:47:02
that a bunch of things you know what I
00:47:04
mean so I'm really lucky that I'm firmly
00:47:06
planted in this
00:47:07
Even though I can access that world, you
00:47:10
know. Yeah. Yeah. What's the most
00:47:13
challenging aspects of what you do?
00:47:19
Delivering bad news. Yeah. Yeah. Which
00:47:21
to be
00:47:22
fair, the only way I would deliver bad
00:47:25
news or why bad news would come through
00:47:27
is kind of if they could change it or
00:47:29
things like that because spirit doesn't
00:47:31
come through with bad news. Like I don't
00:47:34
know when someone's going to die. That's
00:47:35
immoral of a medium. If you are a medium
00:47:38
and you're rocking around telling
00:47:40
people such and such is going to die now
00:47:42
or this is going to happen or you know
00:47:45
um yeah you're going to die at this
00:47:46
time. It's so immoral because human
00:47:49
beings are then sitting there going oh
00:47:50
when are they going to when are they
00:47:51
going to when are they going to waiting
00:47:52
for that day or that time you know what
00:47:54
I mean? And it's like instead of living
00:47:56
in the now and enjoying every moment
00:47:57
with them they're off they're off doing
00:48:00
that. For me, I would say the hardest
00:48:08
part, it's just it's more when that
00:48:11
person in front of me is balling their
00:48:12
eyes out, you know, and I have to see
00:48:16
I'm not only seeing them balling their
00:48:18
eyes out in front of me, you know, any
00:48:19
empath would know. You sit in front of
00:48:21
someone crying, you're bound to cry,
00:48:22
too, you know, you just feel it. And
00:48:24
then I've also got their spirit crying
00:48:27
in front of me as well. So, it's like
00:48:30
from all angles, you know, and then I'm
00:48:31
feeling that as well. So, that's
00:48:33
probably the hardest part would be just
00:48:34
the emotions of it, dealing with those
00:48:36
emotions. [ __ ] Yeah. It must be so
00:48:38
draining. Yeah. Yeah, it is. But I think
00:48:40
I compartmentalize it and I've I've got
00:48:42
to a point where it's like, okay, like I
00:48:44
said, when I leave that caravan, leave
00:48:45
it there. I do do little things that
00:48:48
would be classed as woowoo. Um, saging.
00:48:51
And that's purely No, no, no. But it's
00:48:53
purely only for What? What is saging?
00:48:55
Saging is actually like um so normally
00:48:57
you'd use a smudge stick or something
00:48:58
where you'd walk around smoke your your
00:49:00
place right and I do do that but more
00:49:03
for a cleansing point of view from the
00:49:06
smell triggers my brain into a calm not
00:49:08
necessarily getting rid of spirit
00:49:10
because the spirit's already gone with
00:49:11
my client they don't hang around they're
00:49:12
not hanging around with me they don't
00:49:14
want to come see me they come with my
00:49:15
client they leave with my client you
00:49:17
know what I mean it's more for my peace
00:49:20
of mind if I smell that smell and it's
00:49:23
more incense for me light an incense and
00:49:25
have that smell going and it's like,
00:49:27
okay, when I smell that, I'm calm, you
00:49:29
know, and I I can put that put all that
00:49:32
information that I've just heard or read
00:49:34
or felt out the door. To be fair, when
00:49:36
I'm having a reading as well, I don't
00:49:38
actually know most of the
00:49:40
um like, you know, I've had people come
00:49:42
up to me afterwards and go, "Oh, this
00:49:43
has happened. This has happened. This
00:49:44
has happened." And I'm like, "Oh, that's
00:49:45
really" and I love people coming up to
00:49:47
me. I love it. I I absolutely live for
00:49:48
it. um and their feedback, but honestly
00:49:51
some of the details I don't remember
00:49:53
because I'm not I'm just the medium. I'm
00:49:55
in between. I'm the communicator for the
00:49:58
two, you know, so I don't remember
00:50:00
what's being said. Yeah. Do you think um
00:50:03
like do you think it's like a like a
00:50:05
like a good thing or a bad thing or or
00:50:07
maybe a nothing just to like course
00:50:08
correct people, you know what I mean?
00:50:10
Like change the way things are supposed
00:50:12
to roll out. Absolutely. Because they
00:50:13
would not be in front of me unless they
00:50:15
were meant to. Unless they needed to
00:50:16
hear the information. Readings only
00:50:18
happen when they're meant to. You'll
00:50:20
never give a reading for someone who
00:50:21
isn't meant to hear it because you'll
00:50:23
just get no information, you know. And
00:50:24
I've had out of the thousands of
00:50:26
readings I've had, probably a two like
00:50:28
that where I've had to be like, "Sorry,
00:50:31
here. Here's your money back. Off you
00:50:32
go." Because and come back later date,
00:50:34
you're just not ready right now. I'm not
00:50:36
getting any information. You know, I
00:50:38
might not be their person either that be
00:50:40
able to give that information, too. But
00:50:41
I need two. Right. Right. Right. Yeah.
00:50:45
Yeah. I I did wonder about that. There
00:50:48
are moments and does that depend like if
00:50:50
if someone like like me comes to I'm I'm
00:50:53
you know cynical or skeptical or
00:50:55
whatever. Does it make hard make it
00:50:57
harder for you to Yeah, absolutely.
00:50:59
Because then you've got to go through
00:51:00
their blocks. Um it's even harder. The
00:51:04
hardest part is not the live people,
00:51:06
it's the skeptical dead people because
00:51:08
they can hide. You know, they can hide
00:51:10
anywhere. And you're sitting there
00:51:12
going, "I feel you. I know you're here.
00:51:15
where are you? Why are you not showing
00:51:17
me yourself? You know, and they'll just
00:51:18
be waiting, waiting until some more
00:51:20
information come out. And then they'll
00:51:21
come out and I'll be like, "Oh my god,
00:51:24
you know, such and such is here. He's so
00:51:26
skeptical." And she's like, "Yeah, yeah,
00:51:28
he is. He's so skeptical." And I'm like,
00:51:30
"Yeah, I got to wait for him to bloody,
00:51:32
you know, like be accustomed to what I'm
00:51:35
doing. Like he's curious, but he he he's
00:51:38
so skeptical. He thinks I'm all [ __ ]
00:51:40
you know." So So do do you believe in
00:51:41
like ghosts haunting people? No, I don't
00:51:43
believe that spirits can haunt. I
00:51:45
believe that they've got better things
00:51:47
to do. Way better things to do. Like
00:51:49
hang out with their family and you know,
00:51:51
don't get me wrong, spirit can mess with
00:51:53
you. Spirit can mess with you, but it's
00:51:54
people you enjoy. And when people are
00:51:56
talking about haunted homes and things
00:51:58
like that, I don't think, and you know,
00:52:00
come at me if you want, but I don't
00:52:03
think that spirit can occupy a space
00:52:07
like that. I believe that the energy is
00:52:10
left there, but that could be anything.
00:52:11
It's not just a dead person. That's,
00:52:14
let's say there was a really terrible
00:52:16
toxic family in in the house prior. You
00:52:19
still got that energy there when you
00:52:20
move in. So, you're picking up that
00:52:21
energy. So, you and your partner might
00:52:23
start arguing or might start picking up
00:52:24
that because you're feeling the energy
00:52:25
that was there before. You know what I
00:52:27
mean? Um, but no, I don't I don't think
00:52:30
that spirit can I mean, they can
00:52:31
definitely come and they can do things,
00:52:33
you know. My brother my brother undos
00:52:35
bolts on my table and things like that,
00:52:37
you know, like randomly and I'll be
00:52:39
sitting there and my table's wobbling.
00:52:41
What the [ __ ] is going on? I've just
00:52:43
fixed that, you know, and he's like
00:52:45
undid it a little bit or something like
00:52:46
that. I know it sounds really cuckoo.
00:52:48
That sounds crazy. That sounds
00:52:49
completely crazy. It does. I know. Um,
00:52:51
well, how well how do you know it's him
00:52:52
and it's not just cuz I've had
00:52:54
conversations with him and it's not just
00:52:56
me who has had conversations. Other
00:52:57
mediums have told me that this is going
00:52:59
on without me saying anything. That's
00:53:01
how I get my validation. Why wouldn't he
00:53:02
do like helpful things then? Like, "Oh,
00:53:04
I hate I replace your light bulb." Like,
00:53:06
cuz he wasn't like that. He was a
00:53:08
menace, you know? He was a jokester. He
00:53:11
had he he did things like that to me
00:53:13
with me all the time when he was here.
00:53:14
So, why would he change when he goes
00:53:15
there? You know, his energy is just the
00:53:17
same. Be so good if um Yeah. If they
00:53:20
came and changed the sheets or
00:53:21
something, wouldn't it? Yeah. Wouldn't
00:53:22
it be good? Just cleaned my house for me
00:53:25
while I'm out. It would be amazing.
00:53:27
Yeah. Oh, mom, she was such a cleaner.
00:53:29
Look, get back from work. He's folded
00:53:31
all my clothes. Do you know what? I do a
00:53:32
lot of those questions on um cuz I love
00:53:34
just I love getting people giving people
00:53:37
answers. This thing's really annoying,
00:53:39
isn't it? I love giving people answers.
00:53:41
Um and so I'll give them little question
00:53:43
boxes and they'll pop up. Anyway, I've
00:53:45
had a couple come through and it's like
00:53:46
I've had to call them out cuz I'm like,
00:53:47
"Hey, you know, they're like, "Oh,
00:53:49
what's grandma said?" And I'm like,
00:53:50
"Grandma says to open your curtains and
00:53:52
make your bed." And they're like, "Oh my
00:53:53
god,
00:53:55
I'll do that from now on." You know, oh
00:53:57
my god. Little things like that, you
00:53:59
know, they'll come through or someone's
00:54:00
dad will come through and go, "Hey, go
00:54:03
and get your tire changed. Go and do
00:54:04
this. Go and do this." And I don't know
00:54:05
anything about cars. And he's trying to
00:54:07
tell me how they need to fix their car.
00:54:08
And I'm like, "How do we do this? How do
00:54:10
we do this?" You know? Yeah. Do you do
00:54:13
you have many clients that have come to
00:54:14
you, maybe maybe they've been given like
00:54:15
a gift voucher or whatever, and they're
00:54:16
kind of skeptical, and then you've
00:54:18
you've presented them with some sort of
00:54:20
information that completely flips them.
00:54:23
I surprise every person who walks in the
00:54:25
door. This is my understanding anyway.
00:54:27
um because they've come in and the first
00:54:29
thing they said at the end is I wasn't
00:54:32
expecting that. I wasn't expecting that
00:54:34
because when you go to a psychic meeting
00:54:35
you expect little little bits of things
00:54:38
and knowledge and you have to fill in
00:54:39
the rest but sometimes I am just it's
00:54:42
all there and it just goes you know and
00:54:44
it's all there and I don't I don't know
00:54:46
why I'm doing it when I'm doing it. And
00:54:48
do do you do you associate with other
00:54:50
psychic mediums? Is there like
00:54:52
conventions or anything or or there are
00:54:54
there some or or does word spread like
00:54:57
like are there some sharks in the
00:54:58
industry and they get a bad reputation?
00:55:00
You know what there and just like every
00:55:02
industry there's always someone scamming
00:55:04
someone. You know what I mean? And like
00:55:05
I say, this is why I'm a firm believer
00:55:07
in if you want your own, you know, if
00:55:10
you want to believe in psychic mediums,
00:55:11
go and have your own experience. Go and
00:55:12
see a psychic medium. Make sure you uh
00:55:15
only referred through word of mouth. a
00:55:17
friend who you trust or someone you
00:55:19
trust has been there and had that
00:55:21
experience with them. Don't just, you
00:55:22
know, read reviews. Don't just
00:55:24
willy-nilly go and giving out your money
00:55:25
because someone's messaged you on
00:55:27
Facebook saying love and you know like
00:55:29
it's just there are scammers about
00:55:31
everything. You know, none of my work do
00:55:35
I go out
00:55:38
and like
00:55:43
maybe there was one actually, one
00:55:46
influencer who's actually a friend of
00:55:48
mine now. And I messaged her. Her father
00:55:52
had just passed away. He was such a
00:55:54
strong spirit. And I just messaged her
00:55:55
and I said, "Hey babe, look, this is the
00:55:58
the situation. should I've got your dad
00:56:00
here d when you're ready you're welcome
00:56:03
to come and I'll give you a reading
00:56:05
anyway. So she left it, no answer,
00:56:07
nothing. And it was maybe maybe 6
00:56:09
months, maybe a year later or I don't
00:56:12
know. I don't know the timing. Somewhere
00:56:13
around then she end up coming back and
00:56:15
going, "Okay." And now she's like one of
00:56:17
my best clients because she Who's that?
00:56:19
Can you say? Yeah. Um is someone well
00:56:20
known or what? Yeah. Well, I don't know.
00:56:22
Zia Old Ham, I think. Yeah. She's she's
00:56:24
just an influencer, fitness influencer
00:56:26
in Taranga, but she's, you know,
00:56:28
beautiful, beautiful soul. But her, she
00:56:31
came along and then I've had, you know,
00:56:33
but that was kind of like that was me
00:56:35
going out of my way because I had him in
00:56:36
my ear. Every time I'd see her stories,
00:56:39
he'd come in and be like, "Oh, babe."
00:56:40
You know, and say something about it.
00:56:42
I'd be like,
00:56:43
"Oh my god, you're kidding me." So So
00:56:45
you can be scrolling like Tik Tok or
00:56:47
Instagram. Oh my. And it's just it
00:56:49
doesn't stop, you know, like it's just
00:56:51
there's things there all the time. Yeah.
00:56:53
Right. There's got to be a way to shut
00:56:54
it out. Yeah. Yeah. Is this something
00:56:56
that you should you be working on this
00:56:58
for your own sanity or peace of mind? I
00:57:00
don't know. I think I've got to the
00:57:01
point now where it's like um
00:57:05
I kind of get to that point where it's I
00:57:08
know, you know, if something comes in,
00:57:10
I'm like, "Okay, cool. That's that's
00:57:13
that. I'll leave that for later." Or I
00:57:15
kind of have have an understanding with
00:57:16
them now. Like, don't interrupt me when
00:57:18
I'm just living my life. You interrupt
00:57:20
me when I'm in my caravan. You interrupt
00:57:22
me when I say you can interrupt me. Not,
00:57:24
you know, I'm I'm the I'm in charge of
00:57:26
my life, not them. Do Do you need to say
00:57:29
that out loud or you just like talk to
00:57:30
them internally? Sometime sometimes I
00:57:32
feel like I'm talking to myself because
00:57:33
I am talking to them internally,
00:57:36
you know, like having little
00:57:37
conversations with yourself, but
00:57:40
I know I know and it does it sounds
00:57:42
really woo and sounds all this and these
00:57:43
are things that I think um you know, but
00:57:47
I'm so normal otherwise.
00:57:49
So, so leading on from like the in like
00:57:51
the Instagram thing we were just talking
00:57:53
about. So, say say you're you're um
00:57:56
watching or reading a news story online.
00:57:58
Um Oh, all the time. All the time. So,
00:58:01
so something like say say Grace Mlain
00:58:03
for example. Yeah. Oh, all the time. All
00:58:06
the time. So, I followed that. I I watch
00:58:08
that and in fact I don't know if I was
00:58:10
that was before I had started being that
00:58:13
was a that was a long time. There was a
00:58:14
girl who is um yeah English English girl
00:58:18
who was here on a holiday murder
00:58:19
murdered
00:58:20
by the suitcase and buried in the white.
00:58:23
That's right. So do you when when when
00:58:25
that's in the news site things like
00:58:26
that? Yeah, absolutely. I get it on my
00:58:27
phone. Um you know I'll be laying there
00:58:29
and it'll come through and I'll go, "Oh
00:58:30
babe, oh my god, I'm so sorry." And
00:58:32
they've come through to me and they're
00:58:33
like, "He did it." Or she did it. And
00:58:35
I'm like, "Okay." Obviously I'm not
00:58:37
going to, you know, go to the go to the
00:58:39
police and be like, "Hey, I know this
00:58:41
has happened." Um, but if they came to
00:58:43
me, I would happily let them know, you
00:58:46
know. Um, or if the family came to me,
00:58:48
I'd let them know those sorts of things.
00:58:50
But yeah, definitely definitely get that
00:58:52
information come through cuz do you are
00:58:54
you old enough to remember the there was
00:58:56
used to be a TV show on called Sensing
00:58:57
Murder? Do you remember Sensing? Was
00:58:58
that um Calvin Crook? Yeah. Yeah.
00:59:00
Actually, that was um kind of how I got
00:59:02
into this because I went to a I got a
00:59:05
free ticket, went to this show, and I
00:59:07
was sitting there and I was like, "All
00:59:09
right, all right, if this is real," cuz
00:59:11
I was skeptical as well. And I was like,
00:59:12
"All right, if this is real," and I
00:59:14
spoke to my brother in my head, and I
00:59:15
was like, "If this is real, Jamie, you
00:59:17
tell him to intro." Cuz my brother's not
00:59:19
a showy person. He wouldn't have been
00:59:21
like, "Oh, tell them all about my
00:59:23
story." You know what I mean? He would
00:59:24
have been like, "H, just let him know
00:59:25
I'm here." So I said to him, I was like,
00:59:27
"Okay, if this is real, you let him know
00:59:31
to let me know that you're here."
00:59:33
Anyway, he was in the middle of this
00:59:34
Torah story talking to this family. He
00:59:36
goes, "Oh, I've really got to stop for
00:59:38
one second. Got this young man here who
00:59:41
died really tragically. I just have to
00:59:42
make it known." And then he went back to
00:59:44
it and I was like, "Fuck, this shit's
00:59:46
real." Okay. And that's when it kind of
00:59:48
And then I forgot about it. I was like,
00:59:50
"Oh, that was an interesting
00:59:51
experience." Cool. You know? Yeah. cuz
00:59:54
that that TV show like
00:59:56
um like we said wildly successful maybe
00:59:59
15 years ago. I don't I don't I can't
01:00:01
even time stamp it but um feels like in
01:00:04
every other episode it would end with
01:00:05
like Kelvin Crook Shank running around
01:00:07
with a shovel like trying to find a body
01:00:09
and he never found the body. No. And I
01:00:11
think that there's certain things that
01:00:12
we're not meant to find as well. If he
01:00:14
was meant to find the body, we would
01:00:15
have found the body. If he's not meant
01:00:16
to find the body, he's not meant to find
01:00:17
the body. You know what I mean? like we
01:00:19
can only I don't I will never say
01:00:21
anything unless it's come to my brain or
01:00:23
it's it's in that it's messaged in the
01:00:26
way that I I know my messages come
01:00:27
through. You know what I mean?
01:00:30
Um people have come to me for their cats
01:00:33
trying to find their cats. I don't know.
01:00:36
Live cats constantly moving. So I'll
01:00:37
tell you where it last was. Dead cat. I
01:00:40
can tell you it's dead. I don't know
01:00:41
where it is. You know, like that was it.
01:00:43
You know, things like that. But yeah.
01:00:45
Yeah. I I don't know. I think that might
01:00:48
that show TV is so hard because it can
01:00:50
be cut and things like that. Yeah. You
01:00:52
know, a heroic edit to make the psychics
01:00:54
look good. Yeah. You know, that sort of
01:00:56
thing. I don't get me wrong, he's good
01:00:58
at what he does. I've seen him. I've
01:00:59
seen him live. Um, is he is he legit?
01:01:01
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. From what
01:01:03
I I know anyway. I don't know him as a
01:01:05
person, so I can't make judgment on
01:01:07
that. But I do know that he is I know my
01:01:11
experience. M my experience was hey
01:01:13
Jamie my brother can you tell me you
01:01:16
tell him to tell tell us that you're
01:01:18
here instantly the moment I said that he
01:01:21
said broke from what he was saying and
01:01:23
said that that to me is validation you
01:01:25
know what I mean so that to me he's he's
01:01:27
doing what he's doing how he can do a
01:01:29
big group like that I don't know I would
01:01:31
[ __ ] myself yeah have you thought have
01:01:33
you thought about that to be honest I
01:01:35
just find that the the information would
01:01:37
be too scattered I don't know how you
01:01:40
know Like my understanding of it would
01:01:43
be I would be sitting there and there'd
01:01:44
be someone crying and I'd be like,
01:01:45
"Well, clearly they need information." I
01:01:47
don't I don't know how it would work.
01:01:48
I'd do smaller groups, smaller intimate
01:01:51
groups like 10, something like I've done
01:01:54
bigger groups. I had the biggest group I
01:01:57
had
01:01:59
was 15 and that was it. And it wasn't
01:02:02
for everyone, you know, not messages for
01:02:04
everyone. There were some people that
01:02:05
needed more messages, more time, more
01:02:06
thing than others. But I just I wouldn't
01:02:09
do anything bigger than that, you know.
01:02:12
And do people come to you that um like
01:02:14
they're missing like a wedding ring or
01:02:15
Yeah. All the time. All the time. All
01:02:18
the time. All the time. Yeah. And And
01:02:20
can you um That's my Q&A. So I've got
01:02:22
like a little Q&A that they can message
01:02:24
through or they can let me know, you
01:02:26
know, and they just book in. It's 10
01:02:27
minutes. Often they're one questions 2
01:02:30
seconds long and I can give them an
01:02:32
answer, you know, but and then so I'll
01:02:34
give them extra questions on there. But
01:02:35
yeah, most of it is I've lost this ring.
01:02:37
Here's a photo. I don't know where it
01:02:39
is. I've lost this cat. I don't know
01:02:40
where it is. I've lost this. I don't
01:02:41
know where it is. You know what I mean?
01:02:43
Like, what's your strike rate like with
01:02:45
finding
01:02:47
I don't know. Um, pretty good. I think
01:02:50
it's more so they've got to then find it
01:02:52
with the information that I've given
01:02:53
them. You know what I mean? Like what
01:02:54
sort of information do you give them?
01:02:55
Um, okay. I had a lady come through
01:02:59
um who is actually actually I can say
01:03:02
this one because it's my friend. Um, she
01:03:04
was over in Oh, her family was over.
01:03:07
somewhere. Um, they had lost the ring.
01:03:10
It had fallen off and fell
01:03:14
into where did it fall into?
01:03:17
Um, the bag I think that was just under.
01:03:21
Anyway, they had had
01:03:23
a cleaner person come into the room.
01:03:26
They thought that the cleaner had stolen
01:03:27
the ring and I was like, "No." And then
01:03:29
anyway, my friend calls me up and goes,
01:03:30
"Hey, this is the case. Like, what's
01:03:32
where is it?" And I was like, "Look,
01:03:34
tell her to look in the little bag
01:03:35
inside the other little bag. It's fallen
01:03:37
off and it's in there. And she was like,
01:03:39
"Oh my god." Anyway, she found it. She
01:03:41
found it and she was like, "Oh, clearly
01:03:43
the the cleaners didn't steal
01:03:46
it." I was like, "No, no, they didn't.
01:03:48
You just lost it. It's in the thing.
01:03:50
It's in the bag. I can see that it's in
01:03:51
the bag." You know what I mean? But like
01:03:53
I said, I only know reference points.
01:03:55
So, if someone's going to be like,
01:03:56
"Where is my ring?" And it's in a black
01:03:58
bag. Like, I can see black. I can see if
01:04:01
I try and look, I can kind of see
01:04:03
outward and I can see in it, but that's
01:04:05
about it.
01:04:06
How often do you get people asking you
01:04:08
like about lotto numbers and things that
01:04:10
old joke you get you get that that's one
01:04:12
of the most common questions and you
01:04:14
know what I think I think if you are
01:04:16
meant
01:04:17
to if you're bloody meant to win lotto
01:04:19
I'd know them for you you know or you
01:04:21
would know them you don't need me to
01:04:24
tell you about your lotto numbers
01:04:27
what are the other like common questions
01:04:28
that you get
01:04:30
uh what's my sole purpose or what should
01:04:33
I be doing in life are my loved ones
01:04:35
happy? Are they healthy? You know, like
01:04:37
are they better? Are they at
01:04:40
peace?
01:04:41
[Music]
01:04:43
Um, does does Jeff off Tinder like
01:04:47
me? Um, you know, there's there's such a
01:04:50
wide variety of questions and it's it is
01:04:52
it's a hell of a lot of fun at times.
01:04:54
You know, you sit there and you go
01:04:55
through and you're like, "No, no, no. If
01:04:56
you're sitting in front of me asking me
01:04:57
about Jeff and you were here last week
01:04:59
asking me about Fred, neither of them
01:05:02
are for you, darling." You know what I
01:05:03
mean? Jeff's the commitment f. Yeah,
01:05:05
exactly. Jeff's the commitment f and
01:05:07
he's got issues. You know, he's got his
01:05:08
own [ __ ] going on. Yeah.
01:05:10
I think we should just get rid of him
01:05:11
and go and look, keep looking, you know.
01:05:14
Jeff needs to do some self work. Some
01:05:16
deep selfwork. Well, look, you could be
01:05:18
a medium.
01:05:21
I feel like a lot a lot of that stuff's
01:05:22
common sense. Yeah, absolutely. Where's
01:05:25
your ring? Where you [ __ ] left it.
01:05:26
Yeah, exactly. Oh, I don't know. We had
01:05:29
I had a a friend tell me about a a ring
01:05:32
that had fallen. They were out of work
01:05:33
though. And he he got really mad at his
01:05:36
wife and he had taken this ring off and
01:05:37
he thought he had biffed it when he was
01:05:39
drunk. Anyway, he hadn't he put it in
01:05:42
his pocket and he had taken his pants
01:05:43
off at the hotel and then he had dropped
01:05:46
it and rolling under the bed and I was
01:05:48
like, "Look, the last place he put it
01:05:50
was in his pocket. Tell him to look at
01:05:51
his pocket. Might still be there or it
01:05:52
might be under the bed." Anyway, he he
01:05:54
found it. He didn't throw it like he
01:05:57
thought though, you know. Well, this has
01:05:59
been fun today. Yeah. Is is there
01:06:01
anything um is is there anything like
01:06:04
left unsaid? Is there anything that I
01:06:06
haven't asked that you thought I I would
01:06:07
ask or anything that you'd want to say?
01:06:10
Thank you. You've definitely asked
01:06:12
everything that I thought you would
01:06:15
Yeah. Yeah. Thanks for coming on the
01:06:16
podcast today. You're welcome. Yeah.
01:06:19
Yeah. Any any closing words like what
01:06:21
what would you like to leave people
01:06:22
with? Look, if you have been thinking
01:06:24
that you want a reading, just go and get
01:06:26
one. Do your research first. always make
01:06:29
sure like I said you have you know
01:06:31
either a word of mouth or a standing
01:06:35
review otherwise you don't go to see
01:06:37
them because you know and and also check
01:06:40
that you're going to gel with them you
01:06:41
know check out their photo if they sit
01:06:43
well if they go well but if you've been
01:06:45
thinking that you want a reading it's
01:06:46
probably because you're on that path and
01:06:48
you're you're needing a reading so
01:06:50
that's all it's lovely to meet you today
01:06:52
lovely to meet you too yeah how would
01:06:54
you rate your first podcast experience
01:06:57
well I kept my nerves at B.
01:07:00
But it was pretty neat, Tom. You're
01:07:01
awesome. Thank you. Cool. Thanks, Jess.
01:07:03
You, too. Appreciate it.
