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I just want to say it. The Xbox 25th 5th
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anniversary Xbox Series X25 in
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transparent green is the name of
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>> They're calling it the Xbox Series X25.
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>> I said Xbox like four times.
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>> Xbox X25. Xbox Series.
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>> Yo, what is up people of the internet?
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Welcome back to another episode of the
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Waveform Podcast. We're your hosts. I'm
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Marquez.
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>> I'm Andrew.
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>> I'm David. And this week was WWDC week
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from Apple. So, of course, we'll be
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talking about that quite a bit. New
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software, new AI, a lot of a lot of
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thoughts, maybe some hot takes, old
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Siri. Uh but maybe some other stuff,
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too. We've got uh potentially a couple
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of nostalgic video game stories. You
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know how I feel about nostalgia.
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>> Backyard baseball.
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>> Yep. Yeah.
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>> Even ASAP.
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>> Yeah. So, but first, did they even test
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this?
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>> Does anybody have a dig?
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>> Oh, yeah. This was my turn. Okay. So,
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>> my did they even test this is I think it
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is a universal experience. If you have
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the services that I have, which is a
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weird way to phrase this,
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>> you get like 14 people
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>> on the Apple TV. If you have YouTube
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downloaded and you also have YouTube TV
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downloaded,
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>> Mhm.
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>> I am one of those people that like to
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put related things together. So, I will
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sit there and rearrange my icons,
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rearrange the apps, everything to put
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them together. So, I was like, "Oh,
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YouTube and YouTube TV. I'll put them
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together." They have like the exact same
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icon, and it is so confusing. And every
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time I'm trying to pick one, I
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accidentally pick the other one. The
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only difference is that one is in light
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mode, one is in dark mode, and the
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YouTube TV one says TV at the end of it.
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>> But like besides that, they look exactly
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the same. So there's been so many times
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that like just my fiance will sit down
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and try to go to YouTube and she'll
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accidentally pick YouTube TV. Or I will
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try to pick YouTube TV and I'll just
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like not really thinking about it pick
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YouTube and I'm like they need slightly
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different icons. Give me
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>> or hear me out, you just go to YouTube
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and they have a tab that says TV and
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then it
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>> kind of assumed that's what it was. I
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think that's only on
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>> I could be wrong. I think that's on
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other like Roku or something like that
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because Roku and them didn't have a
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deal. Something like that. I forget.
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>> But why don't they just do I'll tell you
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Apple TV. There is an app for it.
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>> I have the iPad YouTube app and the
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YouTube TV app and I regularly they are
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almost exactly the same icon as well
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just with a little TV at the bottom. So
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I also sometimes hit the wrong one.
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>> Oh yeah, this might just be just an app
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thing. Not even just for Apple TV. They
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might just have too similar of an app
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probably. App icon. You know what they
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should change it to? Remember when the
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old iOS original YouTube app was a TV?
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>> That's what the YouTube TV
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>> should be the old icon.
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>> Yeah. Just throw it all the way back.
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Nostalgia.
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>> That' be sick.
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>> Nostalgia.
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>> Nostalgia sells.
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>> Is so last decade.
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>> Speaking of did they even test this? By
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the way, um one of our readers did go
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and create a did they even test this
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subreddit.
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>> Oh yes.
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>> So if people want to submit their own
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did they even test this, we will be
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looking through those. We don't moderate
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it, but we will be looking at it.
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>> Are you saying we'll test them?
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>> Um, we may. We may because sometimes the
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things that we bring, we didn't even
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test to be honest.
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>> That's like last week's um title for the
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podcast.
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>> Yeah, like last week's title. We
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actually, if you know, you know.
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>> Yeah, if you know, you know. Draft.
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Okay. It
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>> was great.
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>> Notification.
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>> Big deal. Tim Cook's the last good
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morning I dumped up this year.
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>> Good morning. Thank you for joining us
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today at Apple Park.
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>> It was interesting. It was interesting.
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There's a lot of um I was just telling
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you guys off camera, but I feel like
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there were a bunch of little things that
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were slightly different about this
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keynote that they've technically never
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done before. Little it might not make
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much of a difference at all, but like
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did you notice that there were people
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for the first time I've ever seen this
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walking in the background behind the
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presenter in Apple Park
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>> like like Craig would walk out of the
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woods and there in the in the blurry in
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the background there'd be like two
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people walking with binders just like
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having a conversation. There's a few
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instances where people were in the
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background.
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>> It was like not enough people to think
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that the campus was because like
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normally it feels
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>> normally it's totally sterile and
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nobody's in the background.
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>> But there were still so few that it
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still felt closed down and like poss one
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where they were by the what's that like
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reflecting pool?
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>> Some big shallow pool. I don't even know
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where that is.
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>> In the background there was two people
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talking to each other but one was
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wearing all black and just blended in so
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it just looked like one person talking
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to themsel for a little bit. But yeah,
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I'm I can't tell if they were told to be
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there.
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>> I noticed that. I felt like that's it's
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definitely it's such a big production.
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It has to be an intentional choice of
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like, oh, we're shooting it on campus,
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we might as well make it feel more like
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the campus is alive. But that was a
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small thing I noticed.
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>> A lot of the production seemed to be a
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little less high quality than usual.
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>> Well, that's exact. Okay, that's another
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thing I was going to say. Did you notice
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a lot of the shots felt a little bit
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more handheld?
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>> We were freaking out. We probably missed
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the first 15 minutes of it because we're
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all like, is this fake handheld? Is this
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real? Some of it was good. Some of it
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was really bad.
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>> Yeah.
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>> Yeah. Distra. And again, it's definitely
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it's definitely an intentional decision
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of like, let's make it feel a little
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more alive, a little more dynamic. Those
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are such big productions that every
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little thing is being considered, and
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someone decided that they would do a
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little bit less big, sweepy, slow-mo,
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and a little bit more wobbly handheld.
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>> But the thing I will say is that they
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they didn't even do any drone shots this
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year. uh when they announced the new Mac
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OS version, which we will get to, they
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didn't have any shots of them in front
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of that location. Like they didn't do
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any crazy location stuff this year.
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Yeah.
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>> Which made me think that maybe they did
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rush the video production like they only
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did it a few weeks ago, maybe.
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>> Here's here's one more thing I noticed
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that I've never seen before.
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>> Did you notice that they didn't diffuse
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the light as much and it was clearly
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broad daylight instead of being super
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super soft?
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>> Yes.
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>> Such It's a small thing.
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>> Well, this is what I'm saying. It felt
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less produced, which it just felt a
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little different. I don't know if it
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felt to me less produced. It just felt a
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little bit more natural, a little less
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hyper polished.
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>> My theory is because they were
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announcing all the AI stuff. And they
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wanted to feel human. Before it's
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sterile and robotic and beautiful,
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sweeping, we're so cool. Now it's like
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they're going to be talking about AI for
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an hour. Let's make it handheld. Let's
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have people in the background.
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>> That tracks with all the transitions.
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The transitions were very like low frame
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rate uh like match cuts and stuff. It
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looked very human I guess is a way which
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I liked. Really liked that. Then they
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ruined it all with that rap at the end.
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That was
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>> that was hor that was incredible.
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>> That was such a hard decorate
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appeasement rap. They were like the gap
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and Walmart.
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>> Come on. That's one way of looking at
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it. What do you mean?
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>> It was also like all the developers were
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there and they were like, "Please shout
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out my app." And they did and they went
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>> Yeah. But there were so many corporate
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apps though.
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>> Yeah. But the developers of those apps
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are still people.
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>> That was the equivalent of when a a
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YouTuber puts all of the Patreon members
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on the at the end of their YouTube
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video. That was just them shouting them
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out at the end.
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>> Dubdub. Yeah. You know, I can't
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attribute any of this unique stuff to
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being like Tim's last dubdub or like the
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handoff to Turnis or whatever, but I,
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you know, those were things that we
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noticed and we always seem to think of
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Apple's keynotes as like the staple of
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like what you expect a tech keynote to
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be and what everyone seems to be
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chasing. So, it's interesting to notice
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that stuff.
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>> I don't know if either of you guys went
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to it. Um,
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>> but I saw like 400 selfies with John
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Turnis.
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>> So, I was there. Yeah, they brought So,
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John Turnis was not in the event at all,
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which was interesting. He was not in the
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video. It was kind of surprising.
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>> But yeah, there was a little there's
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like a little media mixer every year
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that traditionally has only been for
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international people and then now they
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finally added US people to it. Um, I
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went to just mingle with my friends like
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the Verge team and stuff and uh, yeah,
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they brought John Turnis in and he
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basically just did like a power walk
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through there like slowly just boom boom
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boom boom
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>> and he was there for like maybe half an
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hour and then he pieced out and I think
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that they just wanted to bring him in to
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be like he's human, he's accessible,
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he's cool.
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>> It made me think he was going to be in
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the event somewhere.
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>> Yeah. And he was not in it at all. Yeah.
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I mean, Tim Cook's still the CEO
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>> for now,
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>> you know. Craig's still the head of
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software
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>> for now.
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>> So, for now, this is a a normal WWDC
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cast of characters. We never see John at
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Dubdub because he is the hardware.
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>> I kind of thought there would be like a
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handoff or like a an ode somewhere in
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the end, like a
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>> the ode happened in person.
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>> Yeah. So, I guess in person what they'll
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typically do, I've said this in videos
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before, but they tried out the CEO and
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Craig for like five minutes of speech
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before the live stream starts. So people
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who are there will get that live stream.
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So it was Craig. He walks out. He goes,
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"This is, you know, big round of
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applause. Tim's last dubdub. 15 years of
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leadership. It's all great."
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>> Tim comes out, he gives about 25 thank
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yous cuz everyone's like standing, you
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know, everyone is super loves Apple. So
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they're all standing applauding. Thank
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you, thank you, thank you, thank you,
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thank you. Then he gives it five minutes
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of this has been the honor of my life
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and enjoy the show.
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>> Yeah.
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>> So that was the ode, I think.
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>> Why can't they just show that?
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>> I was surprised at that, too. I've been
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always wondering this felt
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>> the best time to do it.
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>> If I was Tim Cook, I would not want that
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shown in that way because I don't think
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he wants it to be about himself. He
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wants it to be about what Apple does and
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what it means to developers and the
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world and all this stuff like take the
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focus off of him.
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>> There was a tiny tiny bit at the very
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end, didn't he say? Like this the last
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15 years has been great. Basically, that
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was kind of it, you know.
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>> Yeah.
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>> He didn't actually I don't think he
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actually said goodbye in that. Like he
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doesn't mention he just said like this
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has been life-changing. Yeah, it's been
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great.
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>> Well, he's still there till September.
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>> Yeah, but it was still his last event
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and they didn't really be headlining
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that though.
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>> But he's he'll still be CEO. Oh, no. He
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takes over as well. September 1st.
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>> September 1st. So, he won't be CEO
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anymore.
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>> Yeah. He'll be in the audience just like
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a fan.
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>> He'll be making a new Ferrari by then.
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>> I really hope not.
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>> Um Yeah. Okay. Well, I did tweet a video
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of uh six years ago of Tim Cook saying
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thank you 25 times. So, if you actually
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want to see it, even though it wasn't in
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the live stream, you can head to my
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Twitter.
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>> But we got to get into the actual
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announcements.
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>> Yeah,
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>> we're breaking this out. The way that
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we're going to handle this is because it
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was a crazy there's this is one of the
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years where there's just like 8,000
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little updates.
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>> So, the way that we're going to break
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this down is that we're going to go
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through the platform changes, which is
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the Apple Watch, the iPhone, the iPad,
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the Mac, all that kind of stuff. And
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then we are going to go into the
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>> parental safety and
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>> parental safety stuff. And then we're
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going to do Siri separately because this
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year is a big Siri year. It's the the
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Siri part two electric booaloo kind.
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>> I just want to say I was close. I said
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they would call it Siri OS. They called
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it Siri AI.
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>> They closed Siri AI which is very sure
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>> very close.
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>> Six total letters but physically very
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close. Uh true.
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>> Yeah. So, we're going to we're going to
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handle Siri completely separately, but I
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think first we should just go through
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the individual platform updates, and I
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specifically stripped the Siri stuff
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from the platform updates because we're
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going to all handle it all together,
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>> right?
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>> Yeah. A lot of people have been
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describing this as like the snow leopard
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of uh you know, it's a bunch of small
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incremental combing through attention to
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detail, performance increases, like no
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big design overhaul, no huge features
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really needed, just fix the buggy crap.
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>> Yeah. you know, like you've been bu
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you've been building all this wonderful
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new stuff, but it's been kind of a
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>> show behind the scenes and like fix that
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part, you know. So now much more
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efficiencies, much more we heard things
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like faster app opening, faster file
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loading, faster uh indexing and things
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like that.
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>> My favorite part about that is did you
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notice when uh that she came up and
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she's talking about all these things
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that are faster and has this big list
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that keeps scrolling and I was like, "Oh
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man, it's in alphabetical order and
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there's still an F." Then I realized
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every single time it scrolls, it's just
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because it starts with faster with
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everything. It's like a list of like 50
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things that just all start with faster.
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>> And I'm I welcome that. That's great. I
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want everything to feel super snappy.
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80% faster air drops is like all right.
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>> Yeah. Up to up to obviously maybe once
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in a while it'll be 80% faster.
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>> Oh yeah, by the way, we should mention
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Rufus is here.
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>> Oh yeah. Hey.
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>> Hey. else is on vacation.
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>> Yeah,
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>> look at me.
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>> He's down.
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>> So, I'm I'm happy to see that stuff.
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>> So, so if you guys know what Snow
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Leopard is, I I was looking more into
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Snow. It's an old Mac OS version that
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was the follow-up to OSX Leopard.
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>> Where's Snow Leopard in California?
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>> Um, it's in Lake Tahoe. So, anyway,
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there the tagline for Snow Leopard, I
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just wanted to call this out, was zero
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new zero new features,
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>> which is very funny. Hell yeah.
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>> Yeah. I just think it so sick. That's
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such a
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>> the thing you already know and love.
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>> Steve Jobs thing
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>> just works better.
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>> Yes. Yes.
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>> Trust me.
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>> They they they shouted out things like
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improved crisper icons, matching corner
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radi
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complain about all the time, by the way,
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that's huge. That's why I was
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specifically looking to I haven't
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downloaded the beta yet, but you know
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that thing where you go to airdrop
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someone and then you select all the like
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people to airdrop to and you're about to
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click one and then it just shifts them
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all over and the one you click is not
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the one you wanted and it shifts them
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all over again.
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>> This better be one of those improvements
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better to fix that.
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>> It's supposed to fix it.
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>> Better have fixed it. All right. So,
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number one, when you first boot up your
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new iPhone with iOS 27 or your Mac,
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there are now liquid glass sliders. So,
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you can decide whether or not you want
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it to be fully glassy, little in the
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middle, or very opaque.
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>> Mhm.
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>> Did you test try it at all?
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>> I did.
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>> Am I correct in saying they said for
00:14:01
people who want it more transparent,
00:14:03
there's ultra clear? So, that slider now
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>> It's not more than before.
00:14:07
>> Are you just before?
00:14:09
>> Okay. So the middle is is not
00:14:13
>> so like if I were to compare today's
00:14:16
liquid glass with the middle of the
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slider for uh tomorrow's liquid glass,
00:14:20
>> I would say it's between the original
00:14:22
what they shipped at the very beginning
00:14:24
that was like really translucent with
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what they shipped later where they made
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it a little more opaque. It's like in
00:14:30
the middle of those.
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>> Okay.
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>> Yeah. I have a feeling I want to say I
00:14:32
love this.
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>> Yeah.
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>> Yeah. This is this is the thing. I I
00:14:35
feel like people mocked this up on
00:14:36
Twitter for like months after it came
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out like give us a slider. we just want
00:14:40
to adjust it. And then the fact that you
00:14:41
can make it more clear or less clear is
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hilarious cuz there are people on both
00:14:44
sides of the fence. So
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>> there it is.
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>> They did say for some users who would
00:14:49
like liquid glass to be even more clear
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and others prefer more tinted
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appearance.
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>> I remember they sort of
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>> pre it's like alpha.
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>> However, however, there is a universal
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change that makes it more readable and
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that is that they basically sharpened
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the edges of all of the liquid glass
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interfaces. So, anything that has the
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translucency on it, it's got like it's
00:15:10
got sharpening around the perimeter,
00:15:12
which just makes it easier to like read
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things. It makes it easier to like see
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the difference between the liquid glass
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interface and what's below it.
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>> Yeah,
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>> it's better across the board by far. So,
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that is good.
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>> Good.
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>> Yeah.
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>> Um, as you mentioned, Marquez, apps
00:15:27
launch up to 30% faster. This is
00:15:29
especially obvious on older iPhones
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because this OS does go back to the
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iPhone 11,
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>> which is really cool. Can I just say
00:15:37
again, making older iPhones much faster
00:15:40
without adding any new features is a
00:15:42
great software update. The iPhone 11 is
00:15:44
how old now? I mean, that's an older
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that's 7 years old, that phone.
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>> Yeah, it's that's a long time ago to be
00:15:51
getting a software update to make it
00:15:53
dramatically faster. Thumbs up for that.
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Big thumbs up.
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>> The CPUuler will go all the way back to
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iPhone 11 as well. And they said that
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was one where it's like, this is what it
00:16:01
does, but it will probably be helping
00:16:03
those phones way more than the newer
00:16:04
phone. Yeah.
00:16:05
>> Yes. Yes. Uh we're also getting
00:16:07
automatic Wi-Fi to cellular switching to
00:16:09
be much faster, which is good. They
00:16:11
basically mentioned that, you know,
00:16:12
you're in your house, you walk into your
00:16:14
garage, but then your phone doesn't want
00:16:16
to connect to your cellular, but it's
00:16:18
also on too weak of a Wi-Fi connection,
00:16:20
so you can't actually start your music
00:16:22
fast enough. Now, when it detects that
00:16:24
you're on a very weak Wi-Fi connection,
00:16:25
it'll just instantly switch to cellular.
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Great. So smart.
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>> That happens here every single time. I I
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have to just manually swap to data
00:16:33
instead.
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>> Yes. Okay, Genoji got overhauled.
00:16:36
>> Okay, we can skip I specifically fleshed
00:16:40
this out, baby, cuz I was I love it.
00:16:42
>> These are some good things. And then
00:16:44
Genmoji has like six
00:16:46
>> Okay, but it's a completely different
00:16:47
interface now. Like they totally changed
00:16:49
the Genmoji interface.
00:16:50
>> Okay.
00:16:50
>> And and Genmoji used to make your phone
00:16:53
like catch on fire and now it it doesn't
00:16:55
at all.
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>> Does it still send as a sticker?
00:16:58
>> Um well, it's different. It's not a
00:17:00
sticker. Well, you can create a sticker,
00:17:02
but a Genoji is it's like sort of in
00:17:04
between a sticker and a an emoji.
00:17:06
>> It sends as an
00:17:07
>> revolutionary.
00:17:07
>> It's like a it's a scalable image vector
00:17:10
file,
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>> but it sends as a sticker.
00:17:13
>> Shut up, Adam.
00:17:14
>> Trying to make it sound useful as a
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scalable image vector file is hilarious.
00:17:18
>> Okay. Well, before you had to like
00:17:19
select a person to use as a base and
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then you had to like mix it with an
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emote and it was just weird and not
00:17:24
good. It I still loved it, but it was
00:17:26
still not good. Now you can use any
00:17:29
image and it will basically like make
00:17:32
like a genoji of that image which is
00:17:34
crazy.
00:17:34
>> I love all these too like uh emoji
00:17:36
kitchen on in Gboard freaking awesome
00:17:38
but like they send us images and it kind
00:17:41
of ruins the like comedic effect when a
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giant
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>> this is not
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I mean I could try to send this to you
00:17:46
Adam. Do you want to see what happens
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>> here? I'm going to send to you Adam.
00:17:50
>> I'm not on iOS by the way.
00:17:52
>> I know that's definitely coming in as a
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JPEG.
00:17:55
>> We're going to make JPEG.
00:17:56
>> Okay. This is the new gen. This is the
00:17:58
new Gen Moji UI, right? It's way better.
00:18:00
You can start recording. Start. I'll
00:18:02
screen record. Thank you.
00:18:03
>> It looks very like AI prompt.
00:18:05
>> You look like an AI prompt.
00:18:07
>> Well, I probably will look cooler than
00:18:09
that genoji.
00:18:12
>> It says emoji. Describe an emoji.
00:18:14
>> Let's say I'm going to make this. This
00:18:16
is me as Link from Zelda.
00:18:19
>> And let's say,
00:18:21
>> dude, cop copyright is just a thing.
00:18:24
>> Yeah. Well, I'm not even describing
00:18:26
anything. I'm just developing a gen
00:18:28
mode, too.
00:18:28
>> It is. It's got a little bubble around
00:18:30
it.
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>> That's pretty bad.
00:18:33
>> Actually, I don't think that's that bad
00:18:34
except for the fact that So, it
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>> it actually did use me with my like
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stick Na'vi and everything. And
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>> the biggest issue is it looks like it's
00:18:41
really poorly cut out from a background
00:18:43
even though it's a generated emoji. Why
00:18:45
does it have like
00:18:46
>> So, it looks that way at first, but when
00:18:48
you actually send it, it doesn't go
00:18:49
through like that.
00:18:50
>> Okay.
00:18:50
>> Describe a change though. What What
00:18:51
would you like to change about this? You
00:18:52
want to mix it with
00:18:53
>> Get rid of the crappy white outline. Mix
00:18:55
it with a real emoji.
00:18:57
>> Let's mix it with the crying laughing.
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Did you say beaver?
00:19:00
>> Beer. There was a
00:19:01
>> Oh, let's do crying laughing and beer.
00:19:03
Wait, is there a beer emoji?
00:19:04
>> It was right before it.
00:19:05
>> I know there were here. There's a cheers
00:19:07
emoji. Okay, let's see what happens.
00:19:09
>> Boom, baby.
00:19:11
>> I'm so sorry listeners.
00:19:12
>> This is and
00:19:14
there's a little liquid glass thing that
00:19:16
goes around. Oh, you can't.
00:19:18
>> All right. No beer. Anyway,
00:19:19
>> no, that's fine. We'll we'll end it
00:19:21
there.
00:19:22
>> I don't want to. All I got to say is I
00:19:24
love emoji.
00:19:24
>> Genojis overhauled. I know a lot of you
00:19:26
guys were waiting for
00:19:26
>> David really just sold Genmoji for
00:19:28
everyone.
00:19:29
>> I mean way improved performance like
00:19:31
multi-element designs, interactive
00:19:33
editing. It's pretty cool. Speaking of
00:19:35
that whole image generating model, image
00:19:38
playground got revamped with
00:19:40
photorealistic generation and new
00:19:42
editing tools.
00:19:44
>> I'm pretty sure this is sort of using
00:19:46
the same stuff as like um nano banana,
00:19:49
you know. Yeah,
00:19:50
>> it's not directly N banana because none
00:19:52
of this is directly Gemini, but
00:19:54
>> that's what they say.
00:19:55
>> Slop generator just got way more.
00:19:57
>> Yeah, slop generator. I actually did
00:19:59
write that down.
00:20:01
>> Yeah, you wrote slop like 14 times in
00:20:04
existence.
00:20:04
>> It'll also suggest slop wallpapers for
00:20:07
you, which is fun and not fun.
00:20:09
>> Slop papers.
00:20:09
>> Look under your seat.
00:20:11
>> It's more slop.
00:20:13
>> It's more slop. Okay. Okay.
00:20:16
>> You get slop.
00:20:17
>> You get slop. Okay. We have new photo
00:20:19
editing tools within the photos app.
00:20:21
>> Okay, these are interesting.
00:20:22
>> These are actually interesting and I got
00:20:24
to like talk to them about how they work
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and it's really interesting. It uses a
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lot of vision pro technology actually.
00:20:30
So the vision pro was not for nothing.
00:20:32
>> Okay, so there's three new photo editing
00:20:34
tools.
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>> Yes.
00:20:34
>> The first one, well it's not new but
00:20:36
it's improved. Cleanup. You've probably
00:20:37
heard of cleanup. Tap the item in the
00:20:39
front or the background and it deletes
00:20:41
it. We've seen a lot of comparisons of
00:20:42
people like comparing it to like a
00:20:43
Samsung phone where the Samsung phone
00:20:45
reconstructs your face and the Apple one
00:20:46
doesn't do it well. Yeah,
00:20:47
>> seems like this one's much better. So,
00:20:49
clean up is better. The second one is
00:20:52
extend.
00:20:53
>> So, if you have a shot that you want to
00:20:55
add to the side or top of, you know, you
00:20:58
wish you were standing further away or
00:21:00
you don't have an ultra wide cuz you
00:21:01
have an iPhone air, you want to get more
00:21:02
of the background, you can extend an
00:21:04
image up to 25% on any edge and it'll
00:21:07
generate more of what it thinks the rest
00:21:09
of the photo would look like. Mhm.
00:21:11
>> Now, I think you can then just take that
00:21:14
and extend it again and then just take
00:21:17
that and extend it again. So, the 25%
00:21:19
limit is for each pass, but uh
00:21:22
eventually it's going to
00:21:23
>> it's going to get worse and it's like a
00:21:25
game of telephone with the edges at that
00:21:27
point.
00:21:27
>> Yeah. The examples they showed us were
00:21:29
like a person in the center of the frame
00:21:31
perfectly and it's just like background
00:21:33
and you just add more background. Yeah.
00:21:34
It's funny because I feel like the most
00:21:36
useful that would be is when you're not
00:21:38
centered and maybe you want to upload to
00:21:40
something like Instagram which is square
00:21:41
and you're like I just want to not have
00:21:44
to crop in order to center myself but
00:21:46
just add some stuff that no one on
00:21:47
Instagram cares about if like the left
00:21:49
side of the frame is 15%.
00:21:51
>> I have tried this a few times and we
00:21:52
have to give a disclaimer that this is
00:21:54
all beta software um legally. Yeah.
00:21:56
>> Uh, but I took a photo of Vong from The
00:21:58
Verge and her arm was slightly cut off
00:22:00
here and she was sitting on a on a chair
00:22:03
and her sweater was like hanging off the
00:22:05
back of the chair and part of the
00:22:07
sweater was cut off and her arm was part
00:22:09
cut off. So, I extended it out.
00:22:11
>> It like added arm pixels and it looked
00:22:14
very very realistic and the part of the
00:22:16
chair that it added,
00:22:18
>> it also had her sweater draping along
00:22:20
the back of the chair. It looked very
00:22:22
very realistic.
00:22:23
>> Sounds I've seen I mean the examples
00:22:25
look good. I think I'm going to try it
00:22:26
with the not I mean it'll be best with
00:22:29
just pattern background so it just makes
00:22:31
more pattern but I'm going to try it
00:22:32
with all the other things like arms and
00:22:33
legs and stuff.
00:22:34
>> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
00:22:35
>> So
00:22:36
>> extending images in like Photoshop or
00:22:38
whatever is always either like holy cow
00:22:40
that was incredible and I had to do no
00:22:41
work or what on earth are you trying to
00:22:44
add to this?
00:22:45
>> Added a third arm.
00:22:45
>> Yeah.
00:22:46
>> Do you think you can use this to make
00:22:47
yourself look taller?
00:22:48
>> Probably.
00:22:50
>> Like who needs leg lengthening surgery?
00:22:52
>> Yeah. It depends on how
00:22:53
>> what it decides to do my legs.
00:22:55
>> Yeah. Yeah, because you can't tell it
00:22:57
directly what to do in this version.
00:22:59
>> But I guess if you're if you're wearing
00:23:00
shorts and it like cuts off at the
00:23:02
shins, will it just keep adding shins
00:23:04
longer and longer down?
00:23:06
>> I think it'll probably at some point it
00:23:07
has to decide there's feet.
00:23:09
>> Yeah, if I just keep extending it. I
00:23:10
want to try.
00:23:11
>> It's going to draw legs until it draw
00:23:12
it's going to figure out what shoes it
00:23:14
wants to add.
00:23:14
>> Damn.
00:23:15
>> So that's Yeah, that is extend fun for
00:23:17
changing aspect ratios. Lastly, there is
00:23:21
this rotating feature. What is it
00:23:22
called? Reframe.
00:23:23
>> Spatial refframe.
00:23:24
>> Yeah, spatial reframe.
00:23:25
>> Okay. Spatial refframe is really trippy.
00:23:27
So, the idea is you took a photo where
00:23:30
you actually want to change the place
00:23:33
you took the photo from in 3D space. You
00:23:36
want to rotate over a little bit or up
00:23:38
or down a little bit.
00:23:40
>> And it will use generative fill and like
00:23:44
you said, the spatial reconstruction.
00:23:46
cuz when you looked at a photo and
00:23:49
turned it 3D with the Vision Pros tech,
00:23:51
it was a pretty convincing like 3D
00:23:54
>> reconstruction. So, it's it's generating
00:23:55
pixels in between to try to adjust your
00:23:58
perspective.
00:23:59
>> Yeah,
00:24:00
>> I would love to test this a lot. I
00:24:03
really don't know how good this could
00:24:05
possibly be.
00:24:06
>> It's pretty good. It's really impressive
00:24:07
when you're just moving around in the
00:24:09
preview and it looks like you're
00:24:10
literally warping and like if someone
00:24:12
was sitting in a photo and like looking
00:24:14
to the side of the camera and then you
00:24:15
just move it over so that you're in
00:24:17
their ey line. Suddenly you're making
00:24:19
eye contact in a photo where they
00:24:20
weren't making eye contact.
00:24:22
>> Trippy.
00:24:22
>> Yeah.
00:24:23
>> But it'll do it and then it'll
00:24:24
reconstruct the background, reconstruct
00:24:26
the angles of the face, etc.
00:24:28
>> Yeah.
00:24:29
>> And I don't know that should be
00:24:30
interesting. The way that the Vision Pro
00:24:31
does it, and the way that the iPhones
00:24:32
now do it, is they do gouge splatting,
00:24:35
which is basically they create they
00:24:36
recreate a 3D scene using gausian splats
00:24:41
and then it uses that sort of 3D model
00:24:44
to do generative fill on the areas. Um,
00:24:48
it's really realistic. It's quite
00:24:49
realistic.
00:24:50
>> It feels like one of those things that
00:24:52
like, you know, you see it and you want
00:24:54
to test it and you test the extreme of
00:24:56
it and you're going to find all of the
00:24:58
issues with it. Yeah. But when I think
00:25:00
of it, I think of like when I've taken a
00:25:01
photo of like a corner of a building and
00:25:04
I was like one degree off,
00:25:06
>> you know, like it should probably be
00:25:08
ultra minor like adjustments where
00:25:10
you're just like
00:25:12
>> I was just like this little tiny angle
00:25:14
off of the the thing I was trying to
00:25:16
frame in with this and like a little
00:25:18
tiny tweak can probably
00:25:20
>> it's almost contentware filling it in
00:25:22
that
00:25:22
>> which to be fair like there's there's in
00:25:24
Lightroom and Photoshop there's tools
00:25:26
where you can just auto align and it'll
00:25:28
it'll spatially aligned things anyway.
00:25:30
>> Yeah.
00:25:30
>> So, you don't
00:25:31
>> It's just not as pretty to like you can
00:25:34
drag it with your hand and watch it turn
00:25:36
someone's head, which is crazy. They did
00:25:38
mention when I first saw this, I thought
00:25:39
this was just going to be photos like
00:25:40
shot with the latest couple of iPhones
00:25:42
cuz you have more depth information, but
00:25:43
they said it's any photo from any
00:25:45
camera. I don't know if it means it's
00:25:47
better from iPhones or if it's just the
00:25:49
same quality from. told me that they
00:25:51
trained most of the image model that
00:25:53
does the reconstruction on iPhone
00:25:54
photos, but they have other photos that
00:25:57
they've also trained it on.
00:25:58
>> I tried this with a photo I took on my
00:26:00
X100 and it was a better result than a
00:26:03
photo I tried on an iPhone.
00:26:05
>> Interesting.
00:26:05
>> Interesting.
00:26:06
>> It might have just been because
00:26:08
probably was a higher resolution.
00:26:09
Probably was a little sharper.
00:26:11
>> That might have something to do with it.
00:26:12
>> Yeah. But they so you can like you can
00:26:14
use one finger to sort of like move kind
00:26:16
of pivot around the object but if you
00:26:18
use two fingers you can physically move
00:26:20
the camera up and down.
00:26:22
>> So strange
00:26:22
>> which is very strange.
00:26:23
>> And then again you can only go a certain
00:26:25
amount but then you can save and then go
00:26:27
further and go further. And I just feel
00:26:29
like I want to take like a picture of
00:26:30
someone like blowing out candles and
00:26:31
then just go to the back of their head
00:26:33
and see all the people in front of them.
00:26:35
Like
00:26:35
>> that was an upload project all
00:26:38
>> damn. Wait. Wow.
00:26:39
>> This is a good idea.
00:26:41
Just keep rotating. Just see what it
00:26:44
reconstructs on the other side.
00:26:45
>> Can we 360 a person?
00:26:47
>> Wo. Okay. Yeah, we're doing that. We're
00:26:49
doing
00:26:49
>> with the legs also. I think the leg
00:26:51
thing is hilarious.
00:26:52
>> Definitely we'll do that with the legs
00:26:53
with
00:26:54
>> out of nowhere.
00:26:56
>> So, they changed the camera UI yet
00:26:58
again. Um, they now have three little
00:27:00
settings at the top. So, you can change
00:27:02
the format, you can turn flash on and
00:27:03
off, and you can turn live photos on and
00:27:05
off. And then now they used to have the
00:27:07
extra options in the top right. Now it's
00:27:09
just more accessible near the shutter
00:27:11
button, which is interesting.
00:27:13
>> And now, and we'll get to this later,
00:27:14
there's now a Siri mode.
00:27:17
>> So, this is basically for visual
00:27:19
intelligence because before you had to
00:27:21
use camera control to access visual
00:27:23
intelligence. Yep.
00:27:24
>> Now, you can just use the Siri mode
00:27:26
within the camera app itself.
00:27:27
>> And you can still use camera control.
00:27:28
>> And you can still use camera control to
00:27:30
access that. Yeah. And the UI is way
00:27:32
better than the the last UI for camera
00:27:34
int for visual intelligence was like it
00:27:36
was like one button and a little screen.
00:27:38
>> Yeah. Yeah, it was your photo last.
00:27:40
Yeah, very not well thought out.
00:27:42
>> Okay. Now, wallet is adding a create a
00:27:46
pass feature so you can scan physical
00:27:48
passes in the real world and create
00:27:50
digital versions of them to keep in your
00:27:52
Apple wallet.
00:27:52
>> Mhm.
00:27:53
>> Uh if they I believe if they have like
00:27:55
NFC capability, you can also scan it and
00:27:57
it'll become a digital NFC path, which
00:28:00
is pretty cool.
00:28:00
>> That's nice.
00:28:01
>> There's also uh the the menu thing or
00:28:03
the receipt thing.
00:28:05
>> Yes. So, if you have a receipt, you can
00:28:07
take a picture of it with the Siri
00:28:08
camera and then it will like itemize it
00:28:10
and break it all out and then you can
00:28:11
split the bill and then charge everyone
00:28:12
with Apple cash or something.
00:28:13
>> You have to use Apple Cash. I I did try
00:28:15
this last night and it is actually a
00:28:16
very cool UI because it semantic. It
00:28:18
like breaks down each individual item
00:28:20
and it's like who got this item, who got
00:28:22
this item, this is the exact price and
00:28:24
then you put in the percentage of the
00:28:25
tip that you put in and it splits it
00:28:27
between everybody. It's it's very good
00:28:28
UI. It is really cool to see that demo
00:28:31
and like use it every once in a while,
00:28:33
but I don't remember the last time I
00:28:35
actually did something like that.
00:28:36
>> I do think this is a tech demo feature.
00:28:38
People never use it. They always just
00:28:40
take a picture and Venmo each other, but
00:28:42
for the tech demo, it's like, "Oh,
00:28:44
that's cool that that worked."
00:28:45
>> It's cool. Yeah. And I guess a more
00:28:46
complicated split check of a bunch of
00:28:48
people getting all sorts of different
00:28:50
levels.
00:28:50
>> Everyone has Apple Cash.
00:28:52
>> That's the problem.
00:28:54
>> Apple Cash is easy to connect to your
00:28:56
bank account, but not a lot of people
00:28:57
use Well, but doesn't it also split it
00:28:58
and just tell you the numbers and then
00:29:00
you don't have to pay through it. You
00:29:01
can just tell everybody this is how much
00:29:03
it actually is.
00:29:04
>> This is something I wanted to do in my
00:29:05
recap video, but I didn't have enough
00:29:07
time to write it all in. But I think it
00:29:08
would have been really clever.
00:29:09
>> I wanted to do a Sherlock counter
00:29:12
>> and that is definitely an app in the app
00:29:15
store is like uh like even split wise
00:29:17
I'm sure would have had something like
00:29:18
this where you just take a picture of
00:29:19
the receipt and it just breaks it up and
00:29:21
tells you how to pay
00:29:21
>> 100%.
00:29:22
>> Sherlock, there you go. Right there.
00:29:24
Counter one.
00:29:25
>> Here's one. I have another one for you
00:29:27
where all of them are probably wrong.
00:29:30
>> Taking pictures to calorie track items.
00:29:33
Didn't they throw that in here, too?
00:29:34
>> Yeah,
00:29:35
>> it doesn't. It's not going to work. It
00:29:37
does. You can't tell what people are
00:29:39
eating what's on this food.
00:29:41
>> They're going to try. It's going to be
00:29:43
>> It's just never going to work.
00:29:44
>> It's never going to be accurate.
00:29:46
>> The reason it won't be accurate is
00:29:47
because you just don't know how much oil
00:29:48
that that
00:29:50
>> It's mostly about the oil, honestly. a
00:29:52
lot of times, but like it could be a a
00:29:55
handful of almonds. Like this could be
00:29:57
anywhere from four to like
00:30:01
>> 10 and like who knows? Yeah, it's the
00:30:04
bad example.
00:30:05
>> You made almonds.
00:30:06
>> I don't know.
00:30:07
>> What about never going to work?
00:30:08
>> Or a cluttered burrito. A closed burrito
00:30:11
>> as we talked about last time.
00:30:12
>> Yeah.
00:30:13
>> Uh, okay. Big change. Passwords can now
00:30:15
automatically fix themselves if they
00:30:18
have compromised or weak credentials.
00:30:20
This is this is crazy.
00:30:22
>> Yeah.
00:30:22
>> This to me was the biggest new feature.
00:30:25
>> This like agentic in a way.
00:30:27
>> This is the most agentic new feature as
00:30:28
well.
00:30:28
>> One of them. Yeah.
00:30:29
>> So, the way it works is the passwords
00:30:31
app, which for years it's already been
00:30:33
telling you, hey, your passwords are
00:30:34
weak, your passwords are compromised. If
00:30:36
you have uh the same password in more
00:30:38
than one site, it'll tell you this is a
00:30:39
weak password. So, all of these have
00:30:41
always been flagged before, but people
00:30:43
don't often do anything about it. This
00:30:45
new passwords app will, if you decide to
00:30:48
give it permission to, it will
00:30:49
agentically go in to these websites one
00:30:51
by one, log in and change your password
00:30:55
to a more secure password that it then
00:30:57
saves and remembers so that it can log
00:30:58
you in in the future.
00:30:59
>> Yeah.
00:31:00
>> So, it it's a it's so polarizing cuz I
00:31:02
posted about this. It's a good thing.
00:31:04
Yeah.
00:31:04
>> Because it makes all of your passwords
00:31:06
more secure, makes them like 30
00:31:08
characters long and alpha numeric and
00:31:10
all this fun stuff.
00:31:11
>> Yeah. But it also means it has to
00:31:13
identically go do that and you are now
00:31:15
>> locked in.
00:31:16
>> Not locked in but much more likely to
00:31:18
just keep using the password.
00:31:20
>> Is there any way to export that?
00:31:22
>> Yes, you can.
00:31:23
>> So you can go through and export and
00:31:24
then save to pass, you know, seven. What
00:31:26
is it? One password. I use that. But
00:31:28
like
00:31:29
>> that it's very clever what they've done
00:31:31
with that and I hope it works.
00:31:32
>> Could be a Sherlock also.
00:31:34
>> Could be a Sherlock as well. I mean,
00:31:35
it's not fully I don't know if any other
00:31:37
app has done that exact feature where
00:31:38
they will agentically go in and change
00:31:40
that, but just as far as an an agent
00:31:43
going and acting on your behalf. I think
00:31:45
this also requires like the we'll get to
00:31:47
the new series stuff later, but it
00:31:49
requires the personal context of your
00:31:50
email because most of these websites
00:31:52
when you change the password will send
00:31:54
you a one-time code and then so it needs
00:31:56
to know what that one time code is so
00:31:58
they can go back to the website, put the
00:31:59
code in and
00:32:00
>> unless it's meta AI, then you just tell
00:32:02
the AI, "No, I don't have access to that
00:32:04
email and it resets the password."
00:32:06
>> Well, I'm thinking cuz like megaphone
00:32:09
makes us change our password every six
00:32:11
months and I've forgotten it every
00:32:13
single time. But like that's a you have
00:32:14
to do a capta every time you do it. So
00:32:17
would this be able to go through that
00:32:19
feels like an
00:32:20
>> immediate
00:32:22
>> I mean all okay every single one of the
00:32:24
demos
00:32:25
>> is good if it works but I have so many
00:32:27
questions about what happens if it
00:32:29
doesn't work and that is a good that is
00:32:30
a good example of like what happens if
00:32:32
there is a caption
00:32:33
>> probably just decides
00:32:34
>> the UI
00:32:34
>> I can't do this one you go do it. you
00:32:36
showed a little UI of like showing all
00:32:38
of your passwords and you select the
00:32:39
ones that are compromised or weak and
00:32:41
you said change these for me and over
00:32:43
time it'll like light up green if it's
00:32:45
changed it successfully.
00:32:47
>> So maybe it'll just show the ones that
00:32:48
it hasn't been able to change
00:32:49
successfully.
00:32:50
>> I know that Google has like eight times
00:32:53
introduced the feature where it can
00:32:54
automatically unsubscribe from emails
00:32:56
for you.
00:32:58
>> Exactly. Because half the time every
00:33:00
time it doesn't work. I specifically
00:33:03
tested this like a week ago because I
00:33:05
was like, "Okay, I'm looking at this
00:33:06
exact email that I got from this
00:33:08
company. I'm clicking unsubscribe and if
00:33:10
it shows up again, I'm going to take
00:33:11
note." And it did.
00:33:12
>> Do you know it's usually because those
00:33:15
places then in their unsubscribe list
00:33:16
are like, "Well, you can unsubscribe
00:33:18
from sales or reminders or this." And so
00:33:21
like it's probably
00:33:21
>> picking one slow cuz I have one. Name
00:33:24
them. Name and shame. Stickly furniture
00:33:26
I yeah, I've done the
00:33:30
unsubscribe button in Gmail probably
00:33:32
every other day for like the last two
00:33:33
weeks and I'm still getting emails from
00:33:35
>> I had a few years ago I had an idea to
00:33:37
do a bonus episode of does the
00:33:38
unsubscribe button even work and
00:33:40
basically the answer was very boring
00:33:41
because I spoke with the superhuman CEO
00:33:44
which now got purchased by Grammarly
00:33:46
which changes name to superhuman
00:33:47
>> also might get Sherlock's later in this
00:33:49
episode.
00:33:50
>> Yeah. But he was telling me that
00:33:52
basically because of laws and stuff in
00:33:54
different parts of the world, it comes
00:33:55
down there are laws. It comes down to
00:33:58
the company that is running it to just
00:34:01
do it correctly.
00:34:02
>> Yeah.
00:34:03
>> So it's like Yeah. Like it's not a fun
00:34:05
answer. It's just like Yeah. They just
00:34:06
have to go do it or have something in
00:34:08
place to do it, you know?
00:34:09
>> I guarantee you that my local like my
00:34:11
favorite restaurant sends me like 20
00:34:13
emails a week and I keep hitting
00:34:14
unsubscribe and they don't do it. And I
00:34:16
want to be mad at them, but they are my
00:34:18
favorite restaurant.
00:34:19
>> So it's difficult. I have a snail mail
00:34:21
version of this and I'm way off topic,
00:34:22
but I have this like clean this clean
00:34:24
energy company that like sends me mail
00:34:27
sends me the same please switch to this
00:34:30
clean energy source piece of physical
00:34:32
mail every couple weeks.
00:34:35
>> Damn.
00:34:35
>> And I have solar on my house. Like I
00:34:37
don't need to do this. Like please stop
00:34:38
asking. And I've I've tried to get off
00:34:40
this list. I've called them. I've sent
00:34:42
mail. I've sent emails. I've I've tried.
00:34:45
And I think the last time I tried like
00:34:46
oh it could take 6 to 8 weeks to get you
00:34:48
off the list. It's been months. I'm
00:34:49
still on the list. I got one today. It's
00:34:52
>> really right now.
00:34:54
>> It's just like clean energy something
00:34:56
something. I'll find the name cuz Clean
00:34:58
Energy Corporation.
00:34:59
>> I still get a paper payub.
00:35:02
>> Oh yeah.
00:35:02
>> Every time I get paid here,
00:35:04
>> we got one today also.
00:35:05
>> It's on my desk right now.
00:35:08
>> I have tried for a year to stop this.
00:35:12
>> Damn.
00:35:12
>> Clean choice energy named and shamed. I
00:35:16
got one today. That's like with Verizon.
00:35:17
I have FiOS and when you sign up they
00:35:20
start sending you paper mail and then
00:35:22
you can say I don't want to receive
00:35:24
paper mail and then you receive a paper
00:35:26
mail saying thanks for unsubscribing
00:35:28
from
00:35:28
>> At least it's the last one. At least
00:35:29
it's fine.
00:35:30
>> So many companies do that.
00:35:32
>> They say that and then they send you a
00:35:33
bunch of brochures anyway.
00:35:35
>> I try and say like if your crap ends up
00:35:37
in my mailbox, I'm never never using you
00:35:40
ever. It's such a waste.
00:35:42
>> Yeah.
00:35:42
>> Yep. All right. Um
00:35:43
>> back to Apple. Back to Apple. Anyway,
00:35:45
okay. Apple Maps got gouge and splatting
00:35:47
in Apple Maps.
00:35:48
>> It looks a little better in their demo.
00:35:50
>> Higher quality.
00:35:51
>> Looks a little better.
00:35:51
>> Okay. They keep saying gausian
00:35:52
splatting. Isn't this just generative?
00:35:54
>> No, it's said that.
00:35:57
>> No. Yeah, it's
00:35:58
>> you can generate a gausian splat.
00:36:00
>> Well, you can't Well, not really. You
00:36:02
have to take photos from a bunch of
00:36:04
angles and then generate it.
00:36:06
>> Yeah. Yeah.
00:36:06
>> Well, a gausian splat is just like you
00:36:08
you could train a model on a bunch of
00:36:10
gausian splats and you could generate
00:36:12
them, which I'm sure they're doing some
00:36:13
of.
00:36:14
>> Yeah. But they're using mostly like
00:36:15
satellite data and like fly over data
00:36:17
and stuff
00:36:17
>> for maps. Yeah.
00:36:18
>> For maps. Yeah.
00:36:19
>> So it looks a little bit better.
00:36:21
>> Uh they now have parameopause and
00:36:23
menopause tracking which I know a lot
00:36:25
about. Um added to Apple Health.
00:36:27
>> Mhm.
00:36:28
>> Uh new CarPlay features including video
00:36:30
apps in CarPlay now which I think got
00:36:32
added to Android Auto pretty recently.
00:36:35
>> The new Android Auto has YouTube
00:36:38
specific.
00:36:38
>> Yeah, YouTube.
00:36:39
>> Is it still called Android Auto or did
00:36:40
they change it to Google?
00:36:41
>> It's still Android Auto.
00:36:42
>> Not for long. Yeah, it's going to be
00:36:44
Google Drive soon.
00:36:45
>> Um, you can now share one phone number
00:36:47
between two iPhones.
00:36:49
>> One phone number between two and they're
00:36:52
both getting data and voice and
00:36:54
everything.
00:36:54
>> I don't know about that. They said that
00:36:56
the carrier has to support it though.
00:36:58
>> Why would you want to do this? I'm
00:37:00
confused.
00:37:00
>> I I don't know.
00:37:01
>> I could see doing the opposite. Putting
00:37:04
two different
00:37:04
>> So your open claw can have its own
00:37:06
phone.
00:37:06
>> Well, you can do two different phone
00:37:08
numbers.
00:37:09
>> You joked. You're very That's
00:37:11
>> What did you say? Wait, what' you say?
00:37:12
So your your open call can have its own
00:37:14
phone and
00:37:15
>> call people
00:37:16
>> or or take calls for you.
00:37:18
>> Jeez, my agent's in the corner. Uh I
00:37:20
don't know. Someone made a joke that so
00:37:21
you can have your iPhone Air for the
00:37:23
weekend and your iPhone Pro for the
00:37:24
weekday.
00:37:25
>> Oh, Marquez.
00:37:30
>> Marquez does switch the watches already.
00:37:32
>> Hold on.
00:37:33
>> Hold on.
00:37:34
>> Wait a minute.
00:37:35
>> It's actually not terri I don't know.
00:37:36
Whatever.
00:37:37
>> So you can party in the back. Well, if
00:37:38
I'm going to if I'm going to dubdub, I
00:37:40
need the Pro Max and then when I go back
00:37:41
to regular
00:37:42
>> That's what I'm saying. I mean, I would
00:37:44
love that cuz I love my Air.
00:37:45
>> I might Google that later.
00:37:48
>> Um, they added independent alarms for
00:37:50
independent volume for basically every
00:37:52
volume
00:37:54
thing on the phone. God,
00:37:55
>> this is another thing. There's another
00:37:56
thing like when you ask iPhone users
00:37:59
like what's the biggest annoyance with
00:38:00
the iPhone almost at the top of
00:38:02
everyone's list is I just miss alarm
00:38:04
sometimes cuz my alarm volume was zero
00:38:07
cuz the last thing I watched I turned
00:38:08
the volume down like it just doesn't
00:38:10
work all the time.
00:38:11
>> Uh when you wrote this
00:38:12
>> I thought you meant like individual
00:38:15
alarms can have different You just mean
00:38:17
that there's like a separate volume
00:38:18
slider for alarms timers and all that
00:38:20
which Android
00:38:20
>> the thing Androids had for a decade.
00:38:22
Yeah,
00:38:22
>> I thought this was even further. Like I
00:38:24
want this timer I have set to be this
00:38:26
volume, but this timer to be
00:38:27
>> there's always been a separate volume
00:38:28
for like media and like alarm volume,
00:38:30
but alarm volume encompassed alarms,
00:38:33
timers, and like every other little
00:38:35
small thing.
00:38:36
>> Yeah, which is insane.
00:38:38
>> And they finally went and combed through
00:38:40
the little things. And I'm glad that
00:38:41
this was big enough to make it through
00:38:43
that comb.
00:38:44
>> Yes. Um, big deal. Big deal. Big deal.
00:38:46
This one's really fun. Shortcuts. You
00:38:48
can now just describe the shortcut you
00:38:50
want in natural language and it'll make
00:38:51
it for you.
00:38:52
>> Good AI,
00:38:53
>> which is very cool. Um, we saw a bunch
00:38:56
of demos of this. If you're a shortcuts
00:38:57
fiend, this is going to be cool for you.
00:38:59
>> And it just builds it in the shortcuts
00:39:01
editor, so you can edit it after the
00:39:02
fact. So, it builds it all. You can go
00:39:04
in the editor and like change stuff if
00:39:05
you want.
00:39:06
>> Yeah. And it'll sync to your Mac and uh
00:39:08
you can also share the shortcut with
00:39:09
other people. So, pretty cool. Uh,
00:39:12
overhaul dictation supposedly powered by
00:39:14
Gemini powered dictation. So that should
00:39:17
correct spelling, punctuation, and
00:39:18
capitalization. Basically, the dictation
00:39:20
on the iPhone should be way better.
00:39:21
>> Is that out right now? Is that in iOS
00:39:24
12?
00:39:24
>> That's in 27. Yes.
00:39:26
>> It doesn't It doesn't feel any better.
00:39:28
>> It's only better on the phones with 12
00:39:30
gigs of RAM.
00:39:32
>> So, the most advanced improved ondevice
00:39:35
models
00:39:36
are only on iPhone Air and iPhone 17.
00:39:39
>> But is dictation in the advanced models?
00:39:41
>> And dictation. And uh one other thing
00:39:45
are the I was told the only two things
00:39:47
that are
00:39:48
>> new in that like that super new advanced
00:39:52
best ondevice model.
00:39:53
>> Wow.
00:39:53
>> So if you don't have better dict
00:39:55
dictation it may be because that's one
00:39:56
of the things that didn't make it
00:39:58
>> if you don't have 12 gigs of RAM.
00:39:59
>> Strange.
00:39:59
>> Are you on not one of those two phones?
00:40:01
>> No I have a 17 Pro.
00:40:02
>> So it should be better.
00:40:03
>> That's weird.
00:40:04
>> It's not should be.
00:40:05
>> It's not much better.
00:40:06
>> Yeah.
00:40:06
>> Yeah.
00:40:07
>> I can't tell. I haven't seen enough yet
00:40:09
but I was like not super
00:40:12
>> Yeah. This is a kind of random one. Um,
00:40:14
you can now have subscription bundles in
00:40:16
the app store. So, if you're a developer
00:40:18
and you sell multiple apps, you can do a
00:40:20
subscription bundle that comes with a
00:40:22
bunch of your apps. You can also partner
00:40:24
do a little partnership with another
00:40:25
developer and offer your app plus
00:40:27
another developer's app for a bundle
00:40:29
price.
00:40:30
>> Collab. It is a bundle price. Change.
00:40:32
It's a collab.
00:40:33
>> It's a collab. That's cool. Cool.
00:40:34
>> Yeah, it's kind of cool.
00:40:36
>> Um, yeah. Okay.
00:40:37
>> Like a bundle of all the apps that are
00:40:39
about to get sherlocked from iOS 27.
00:40:41
Please keep us alive bundle. Um, you can
00:40:44
now create calendar events with natural
00:40:46
language. So, you could just go into
00:40:47
your calendar and say lunch with at
00:40:50
Sopernica with James at 3 p.m. and it'll
00:40:52
add all the little details. Sherlock
00:40:54
counter is now two. That's specifically
00:40:57
Fantastic.
00:40:58
>> That's like one of the things a lot of
00:40:59
these new calendar apps uh primary
00:41:02
feature is that you can add things with
00:41:03
natural language, add a repeating event,
00:41:05
and it just does it for you.
00:41:07
>> There it is. Sherlock counter number
00:41:09
two.
00:41:09
>> Find my update. they should have added a
00:41:10
longass time ago and I don't know how
00:41:12
they didn't. You can now uh so they
00:41:14
redesigned the find my UI a little bit.
00:41:16
That's fine. But the big thing is it
00:41:18
used to be that you could only share
00:41:19
your live location for 1 hour until the
00:41:22
end of the day or indefinitely. You can
00:41:23
now set custom amounts of time to share
00:41:25
your location.
00:41:26
>> Wow, that's nice.
00:41:28
>> My onee vacation.
00:41:29
>> It is crazy that it took that long.
00:41:31
>> Cool.
00:41:31
>> Um you can now say save any video frame
00:41:34
as a photo. So if you stop in any video,
00:41:37
you can just hit export as photo. That's
00:41:39
something Android has had forever.
00:41:41
>> So, it's not made something.
00:41:43
>> That's nice.
00:41:44
>> Uh, shared albums in Apple Photos now
00:41:46
support full resolution photos. I did
00:41:48
not even realize they didn't before. Uh,
00:41:51
and Android and Windows users can also
00:41:52
contribute photos now.
00:41:54
>> Could they really not before?
00:41:55
>> Apparently not.
00:41:56
>> So funny.
00:41:56
>> We just view it.
00:41:57
>> Yeah.
00:41:58
>> I love shared albums. Ever since kids
00:42:00
and having like nieces and nephews now,
00:42:02
every single one of my nieces or nephews
00:42:04
or children has a shared album with all
00:42:06
the grandparents, all the uncles, all
00:42:08
>> I wonder who's going to adopt this
00:42:10
because same thing in my family, but we
00:42:12
all use Google Photos. Even Google
00:42:14
Photos, it's like Google Photos the
00:42:15
default. So, I guess now they have this,
00:42:17
which is nice. But
00:42:18
>> yeah, but you know, I don't know. Yeah,
00:42:20
you can now also set photo albums to
00:42:22
expire after a certain period of time. I
00:42:24
wish you could just do this with group
00:42:26
chats because I don't freaking want to
00:42:27
be in another group chat for
00:42:28
indefinitely.
00:42:30
>> Name and shame expire. Yeah. Well, every
00:42:32
time I make a temporary group chat, I
00:42:34
name it going to destroy after event
00:42:37
temporary.
00:42:38
>> Nice.
00:42:39
>> And then the three people
00:42:40
>> If you destroy it on your phone, does it
00:42:41
destroy on everyone's phone? No. Right.
00:42:42
>> Um, probably not. You just leave it.
00:42:45
>> Self-destruct.
00:42:47
>> Uh, okay. The dual camera feature where
00:42:49
you can record what is in front of you
00:42:51
as well as your face is now available in
00:42:53
FaceTime. I didn't realize this wasn't
00:42:55
true before and it makes a lot of sense.
00:42:57
>> So before in FaceTime you had to just
00:42:59
switch between your face and the thing
00:43:01
that you were looking at which was
00:43:02
stupid and it's very nice that you can
00:43:04
actually you know do both at the same
00:43:06
time now. I like that when you pay with
00:43:08
things online with Apple Pay there is a
00:43:10
much better UI now to select the card
00:43:12
that you're using. previously and I've
00:43:14
had to do this a million times. You It's
00:43:17
so complicated to like pick the right
00:43:19
card because you have to scroll down to
00:43:20
the bottom menu and then click like use
00:43:22
different card even though it's it was
00:43:24
just a confusing UI before and they made
00:43:26
it way better. So that's cool. They
00:43:28
synced the step counts across the health
00:43:30
and fitness apps. This was not synced
00:43:33
before. It was annoying.
00:43:34
>> What?
00:43:35
>> So little things. Yeah, health and
00:43:36
fitness. Like I think it was because
00:43:38
like your Apple Watch and your phone
00:43:41
like recorded different step amounts and
00:43:43
they would get out of sync. And then if
00:43:45
you opened the fitness app, it would
00:43:47
show a different amount of steps than
00:43:48
the health app sometimes. Like they were
00:43:49
tracking steps differently,
00:43:51
>> which is really dumb. So this is very
00:43:53
much a Snow Leopard feature.
00:43:56
>> Um, okay. This one's kind of cool. Call
00:43:58
context. So this is like magic Q on the
00:44:00
Pixel.
00:44:01
>> Yeah. When you call like an airline,
00:44:04
it'll know that you're calling the
00:44:05
airline, so it'll look through your
00:44:06
email and pull up your confirmation
00:44:08
number and put it on the screen. This
00:44:10
one is
00:44:11
>> cool if it works. I can see lots of ways
00:44:13
that it wouldn't work.
00:44:14
>> Yes.
00:44:15
>> They also at the end of it, if I
00:44:17
remember correctly, had this weird way
00:44:19
of saying like, "We're listening for the
00:44:21
context, but we're not listening to the
00:44:22
phone call."
00:44:23
>> Yeah.
00:44:24
>> It was like a very like we're listening,
00:44:26
but we're not listening. We're not
00:44:27
listening. I promise we're not
00:44:28
listening. It seems like they have to
00:44:30
get the context somehow and if you are
00:44:32
calling the airline and you have a
00:44:34
recent reservation from that airline
00:44:37
then that may be enough context for them
00:44:38
to serv.
00:44:47
>> So that was most of the major stuff with
00:44:49
just the iPhone. Okay.
00:44:50
>> Yeah. Next we got the Mac and we finally
00:44:53
got the new name for the Mac and it is
00:44:55
Golden Gate.
00:44:56
>> Is that a state park? It is. Right.
00:44:58
Another obscure reference.
00:45:00
>> What the hell is a park?
00:45:01
>> It's not a state park.
00:45:02
>> It's typically been
00:45:03
>> I think it is.
00:45:04
>> So we we had all the cats. Leopards. No
00:45:06
leopard.
00:45:06
>> Yeah. Yeah. Tiger. Then we had places in
00:45:09
California, but typically there were
00:45:11
state parks.
00:45:12
>> There's Golden Gate Canyon State Park.
00:45:14
But it's about the bridge though.
00:45:16
>> It's the bridge.
00:45:17
>> The other ones now just landmarks.
00:45:18
>> So we broken out of state parks.
00:45:19
>> I guess the other ones were state parks
00:45:20
cuz it was y Well, that was n yuse is a
00:45:23
national park. Joshua Tree is a
00:45:25
>> national park.
00:45:25
>> National park. Big Su is not a national
00:45:28
park. That's a state park.
00:45:30
>> We never got Joshua Tree.
00:45:31
>> Yeah, we did. No, we didn't.
00:45:33
>> No, we didn't. No, we didn't.
00:45:33
>> How? We didn't do that yet.
00:45:35
>> No.
00:45:35
>> That's crazy.
00:45:36
>> Damn. That would have been a good one,
00:45:37
>> dude. All the Apple people getting high
00:45:38
on Iawaska and Joshua Tree and they
00:45:40
didn't even use it as a name for
00:45:41
Michael.
00:45:41
>> Yeah, that's how they made that
00:45:42
animation with Craig.
00:45:44
>> Yeah,
00:45:44
>> and the Hippie Buzz.
00:45:45
>> Yeah, the Hippie Buzz.
00:45:46
>> That was actually pretty funny.
00:45:47
>> They lean into that.
00:45:48
>> That was a good one. I'll give them a
00:45:49
lot of credit for that.
00:45:50
>> I asked them straight up why they call
00:45:51
it the crack marketing team and they
00:45:53
wouldn't give me an answer. It's I think
00:45:55
that's I think that's just a Craig joke
00:45:57
that he is just keeping alive by
00:45:59
himself. That's my theory is he gets on
00:46:01
stage and he's like are you going to say
00:46:02
it again? He's like yeah like all right
00:46:04
we're using it. They just kept saying we
00:46:06
like to have fun.
00:46:08
>> Uh so that was interesting. Watch this
00:46:10
rap.
00:46:11
>> Anyways,
00:46:13
>> Mac OS Golden Gate. Now something we
00:46:14
should say is that a lot of the features
00:46:16
that came to the iPhone come to every
00:46:18
other Apple platform.
00:46:19
>> Yeah. faster app opening, transparency
00:46:22
slider, uh faster airdrop, all the stuff
00:46:24
we were talking about.
00:46:25
>> Yeah,
00:46:26
>> also here.
00:46:26
>> Yeah. So, these are going to be
00:46:27
truncated. Um
00:46:28
>> corner radi.
00:46:29
>> Corner radi.
00:46:31
>> That's the name of this episode.
00:46:34
>> Mac OS corner radi.
00:46:36
>> There's a couple cool things in Safari,
00:46:37
I think, that they did here.
00:46:38
>> Yeah, totally.
00:46:39
>> So, one of them was uh you can ask it,
00:46:42
similar to building a Siri shortcut, you
00:46:44
can ask it to build an extension, a
00:46:46
Safari extension to do a very specific
00:46:48
thing.
00:46:48
>> Yeah. Uh, and I I got a demo of this and
00:46:50
I watched and so you basically in
00:46:52
natural language can type out or write
00:46:54
out what you want it to do and it'll
00:46:55
build that extension. If it sees an
00:46:57
extension that is similar to what you're
00:46:59
asking for, it will actually surface
00:47:00
them.
00:47:01
>> So not a full-on Sherlock of every
00:47:04
single extension. It will still show you
00:47:05
extensions.
00:47:06
>> Could you say I don't want to use that
00:47:08
one though? Keep making it.
00:47:09
>> Totally you can. Yes.
00:47:10
>> So then now it's Sherlocks. It went from
00:47:12
not Sherlocking to Sherlocking literally
00:47:14
anything you want.
00:47:15
>> Something that already exists that you
00:47:16
could use. Yeah. Yeah. If it's just like
00:47:19
make me an extension to save bookmarks
00:47:21
and rate recipes, it's like well okay
00:47:22
that exists like that's a thing you can
00:47:24
get here and it'll it'll actually do the
00:47:26
nice thing and show you that.
00:47:27
>> Yeah, but if you want to keep going yeah
00:47:29
it'll it'll make you an extension from
00:47:31
scratch.
00:47:31
>> Build an extension to scroll past Google
00:47:34
AI overview
00:47:35
>> every time I work at my work.
00:47:38
>> That'd be seven.
00:47:38
>> That is really cool though because I
00:47:40
feel like a lot of my developer friends
00:47:42
that will have an idea to build
00:47:43
something will want to make a Chrome
00:47:45
extension. Like that is where their
00:47:46
brain goes first. There's like a
00:47:47
thriving developer community for Chrome
00:47:49
extensions and not so much for Safari
00:47:51
extensions. So, this could be like a way
00:47:53
to get people back building.
00:47:55
>> And I was going to say about this like
00:47:56
Apple is very good at taking things that
00:47:58
people are doing outside of Apple
00:48:00
ecosystem and then instead of being like
00:48:02
we have a platform now that you can vibe
00:48:04
code whatever you want. They're like in
00:48:06
Safari
00:48:08
>> now. Safari supports vibe coding of
00:48:10
Safari extensions.
00:48:12
>> Yeah. Instead of having like a nebulous
00:48:13
terminal where you're like code me a
00:48:15
Chrome extension, you just say this is
00:48:17
what I want to be able to do in my
00:48:18
browser and then it does it.
00:48:20
>> Yeah.
00:48:20
>> Which I think is better for most people
00:48:22
probably. Yeah.
00:48:23
>> There's a couple other smart things
00:48:24
there. Um it will if you want it to use
00:48:26
AI to organize your tabs into tab groups
00:48:29
based on topics. So if you have like
00:48:31
>> what does Harper have 75 tabs open at
00:48:33
any point you can just kind of group
00:48:35
them together into things that are
00:48:36
related to each other and then as you
00:48:38
keep browsing it'll keep sorting.
00:48:39
>> They kind of ripped that from Dia. Not
00:48:41
going to lie,
00:48:41
>> there's a lot of browsers that do this.
00:48:42
Now, I don't know if I call that a
00:48:43
full-on Sherlock, but that is definitely
00:48:45
taken from other browsers.
00:48:46
>> Okay, wait. If you have 75 tabs open and
00:48:50
it's auto sorting them into tab groups.
00:48:52
Yes.
00:48:52
>> What if there's something that could be
00:48:54
split between two tab groups? How do I
00:48:56
find that as the user?
00:48:57
>> Good question.
00:48:59
>> Not sure.
00:49:01
>> Um, yeah, I I think I asked someone like
00:49:04
that, like if I have two cuz I asked
00:49:06
them like how is it deciding how to
00:49:08
group them? And I was like, if I if
00:49:10
there's a if there's two Google Docs
00:49:13
documents open and the contents of one
00:49:14
Google Docs is about cats and then I
00:49:17
have a a pet store page open,
00:49:20
is it going to group the Google doc
00:49:23
>> with the cat pet store with the pet
00:49:25
store or is it going to group the Google
00:49:27
doc with another Google doc?
00:49:28
>> Yeah.
00:49:29
>> And they didn't really have an answer
00:49:30
for me. That's funny cuz it's like are
00:49:31
you just matching favicons or are you
00:49:34
actually like reading the content of the
00:49:35
page
00:49:36
>> or like you're looking up cats and
00:49:38
you're also looking up Japan and then
00:49:39
you start looking up cats in Japan,
00:49:42
>> right? Where does it go? They just go,
00:49:44
"All right, put them all back together."
00:49:46
>> It would be cool if the tap group had a
00:49:48
reasoning if you like right clicked it
00:49:49
gave you a reason.
00:49:50
>> Yeah. Yeah. Of like why it chose that
00:49:52
cuz it would be funny somewhere in the
00:49:54
code. Yeah. Yeah. Somewhere in the
00:49:55
thinking. I don't I in DIA it's
00:49:56
interesting because when I have tab
00:49:58
groups I don't make tab groups but when
00:50:00
I right click and like open a new tab a
00:50:01
bunch of stuff that creates a tab group
00:50:03
because it knows I'm doing this tree of
00:50:05
things and it keeps them together. So
00:50:06
that's I I imagine there'll be
00:50:07
animations that at least make it clear
00:50:09
what is happening while it's happening.
00:50:11
>> Yeah.
00:50:11
>> So that's cool. Safari is also adding an
00:50:13
ability to monitor a web page for if it
00:50:16
changes. So this the common use case of
00:50:18
this is obviously like concert
00:50:20
>> scalping,
00:50:22
>> but um you can only give it you can only
00:50:24
have it check once a day
00:50:26
>> which means you definitely cannot use it
00:50:28
for scalloping
00:50:29
>> as
00:50:30
>> and you have to tell it when to check I
00:50:33
believe
00:50:33
>> there was a different one though that
00:50:34
was like using context it could see I
00:50:37
guess it's kind of the same just cuz
00:50:38
we're talking about concert tickets but
00:50:39
it was like there's a lottery for this
00:50:42
concert and it's like I think they took
00:50:44
a screenshot of it and said like remind
00:50:46
me when this lottery is opening. Um,
00:50:49
which was kind of cool and felt like a
00:50:51
vast difference between IO where they're
00:50:54
like, I want to go to this concert. Do
00:50:55
everything for me.
00:50:57
>> Yeah.
00:50:57
>> Siri's like, I'll remind you when you
00:50:59
can pay for it yourself.
00:51:00
>> Yeah. And it's sort of just a it's more
00:51:02
of a little reminder tool than it is an
00:51:04
agentic like we're going to completely
00:51:06
get you the concert ticket.
00:51:08
>> Yeah.
00:51:09
>> Yeah.
00:51:09
>> So, that might that might shlock
00:51:11
something to be honest, but it's not
00:51:12
probably not as powerful as some other
00:51:14
extensions are. So maybe it's not quite
00:51:16
surlock. The other major thing that they
00:51:18
made a big deal about the sidebars are
00:51:20
now stretching to the screen edge.
00:51:22
>> Huge.
00:51:23
>> So yeah, if you have like the finder
00:51:25
window open or something, it's basically
00:51:27
just making better. It's taking more
00:51:31
advantage of the screen real estate.
00:51:33
>> Better use of space unlike the HTC 111.
00:51:36
>> If you know, you know.
00:51:37
>> If you know, you know. Um, okay. And
00:51:40
then, oh yeah, the one big thing that
00:51:42
they didn't ask about that they didn't
00:51:44
really mention, but I asked if there was
00:51:45
anything that they didn't really
00:51:46
mention. They said, "Mac OS is now much
00:51:49
better at remembering the orientation of
00:51:52
the screens you have plugged in."
00:51:53
>> Oh, that I
00:51:54
>> This is like the biggest This is huge.
00:51:56
>> They could have only said that and I
00:51:57
would have stood up and clapped.
00:51:58
>> This is This is big. As a person who
00:52:00
recently, like very recently switched to
00:52:02
being a laptop person who's plugging
00:52:04
into multiple sets of monitors, yeah,
00:52:06
>> I am frequently annoyed by the jumbling
00:52:09
of monitor windows that happens when I
00:52:11
unplug the monitor and replplug it back
00:52:12
in and they never go back to where
00:52:14
they're supposed to.
00:52:15
>> Allegedly, they're going to go back to
00:52:16
where they're supposed to.
00:52:17
>> Allegedly. I think Windows announced
00:52:19
that they had this like quite a while
00:52:20
ago, so it's nice to see this on Mac.
00:52:22
But they said it'll know if you're
00:52:23
plugged into one screen, two screens,
00:52:26
three screens, and then it'll it'll just
00:52:27
automatically, you know, it'll bound
00:52:29
with my set it up,
00:52:30
>> which is cool.
00:52:31
>> Uh, iPad OS 27 gets everything that the
00:52:34
iPhone got. There are some other strange
00:52:36
improvements like transferring files
00:52:38
from an uh an external drive to an iPad
00:52:40
and vice versa. Is now five times faster
00:52:42
than it was before.
00:52:43
>> Wow.
00:52:44
>> I'm not really sure what the roadblock
00:52:46
was there previously.
00:52:47
>> Only the Thunderbolt ones or all of
00:52:48
them? I it says up to just just like the
00:52:52
airdrop.
00:52:52
>> Okay. So, who knows?
00:52:54
>> Um
00:52:55
>> five times faster.
00:52:56
>> Yeah. Other than that, it basically gets
00:52:58
all the same improvements as the iPhone.
00:53:00
And then you also get sort of the Safari
00:53:02
benefits that you're getting from um the
00:53:04
Mac.
00:53:05
>> Mhm.
00:53:05
>> Apple Watch, they didn't change a lot
00:53:07
here. We're going to note as well like
00:53:09
they didn't even have like an Apple
00:53:11
Watch section really in the keynote. And
00:53:13
same with tvOS and also Home for Vision
00:53:18
Pro. They showed a couple vision things.
00:53:20
>> They showed a floating Siri bar that
00:53:22
three people are going to use.
00:53:24
>> I will have been Finder guy.
00:53:25
>> I am very excited about the vision pro.
00:53:27
We'll get there. Apple Watch, they they
00:53:29
changed they have this like dynamic app
00:53:31
view now where when you press the
00:53:33
digital crown, it shows your six most
00:53:35
used apps first instead of just bringing
00:53:37
up all of the apps and then you can
00:53:39
click into all of the apps after.
00:53:41
>> That's basically the only change.
00:53:43
>> There it is. Watch OS 27.
00:53:44
>> Watch OS 27.
00:53:46
>> Very seen it. Apparently, there's a
00:53:47
better workout buddy that has upgrades
00:53:49
and better sleep tracking. You get the
00:53:50
better Wi-Fi connectivity, faster music
00:53:53
playback. If you if you click the music
00:53:55
playback on the watch and it's playing
00:53:56
from your phone, it'll apparently happen
00:53:57
faster cuz the connection is better.
00:53:59
There's better battery efficiency.
00:54:01
However, this was a big deal. People
00:54:03
were very upset about this. They dropped
00:54:04
support for a lot of Apple Watches on
00:54:06
this on this one. So, on the keynote,
00:54:10
they said it's only supported by Apple
00:54:12
Watch Series 9, Series 10 and above, I
00:54:16
think, which everyone was like, "The
00:54:18
Series 10 just came out."
00:54:19
>> That's the last two generations.
00:54:21
>> Yeah, last two generations. Yeah.
00:54:22
>> But then, uh, someone from Apple said,
00:54:24
"We made a mistake on the keynote. It's
00:54:26
actually series 9 and above, which is
00:54:28
still only the last three generations."
00:54:29
>> And I checked online and they it does
00:54:32
say that. No, it at least says series 9
00:54:33
cuz I was like this is something that
00:54:34
you can tell us is wrong but until it's
00:54:37
showing up somewhere and it has changed
00:54:38
up.
00:54:39
>> Yeah, it's still kind of surprising that
00:54:41
you know Apple Watch Ultra 1 does not
00:54:43
have support for watch OS 27 which is
00:54:46
kind of crazy. The SE2 Yeah, very weird.
00:54:49
Okay, Vision Pro. Yeah, this was the
00:54:53
David update. There it is.
00:54:54
>> No, this was the David update.
00:54:56
>> Vision OS 27.
00:54:57
>> Vision OS 27, baby.
00:54:59
>> Oh, this is I did. Yeah, I did mention.
00:55:01
Yeah,
00:55:01
>> I thought as soon as they announced
00:55:02
this, I was like, "Oh, Dave is gonna do
00:55:04
that."
00:55:04
>> Yes, I am. Okay.
00:55:05
>> So, what are you gonna do on the Vision
00:55:06
Pro, Dave?
00:55:07
>> The major change in Vision Pro, besides
00:55:09
all the, you know, Wi-Fi speed,
00:55:10
whatever. Who who cares about Wi-Fi
00:55:11
speed? I don't care about that.
00:55:12
>> You guys remember Vision Pro?
00:55:13
>> You can get rid of the Wi-Fi. I'm still
00:55:15
excited about this feature. So, now on
00:55:17
Vision Pro, there's a feature where you
00:55:20
There was always a feature where you
00:55:21
could spatialize photos. Right now, you
00:55:23
can spatialize panoramas. That's not
00:55:25
something they had access to before. And
00:55:27
and in the Vision Pro, there's this
00:55:29
thing called environments, and they had
00:55:30
them built into the Vision Pro where you
00:55:32
could like turn the digital crown and
00:55:33
you would slowly blend into these
00:55:35
beautiful worlds that were handpicked by
00:55:37
Apple. They were handcanned by Apple
00:55:38
with these special cameras. No, no, no,
00:55:40
no, no. You can use your own panoramas
00:55:44
as environments now. So, to be clear,
00:55:46
before on the Vision Pro, I looked it
00:55:48
up, there was exactly six environments.
00:55:51
Yeah. So when you like shut down the the
00:55:54
the transparency and like go into one of
00:55:56
those worlds, you could either be in
00:55:57
Yoseite, Mount Hood,
00:55:59
>> this is where Joshua,
00:56:00
>> Maui, Joshua Tree, White Sands, and the
00:56:04
Moon. That's it.
00:56:05
>> All California.
00:56:07
>> The moon is also California.
00:56:08
>> The moon. Yeah. California.
00:56:09
>> Well, the sound stage is in California.
00:56:10
>> On my website, I offer 60 different
00:56:13
environments. So Apple
00:56:15
>> Yeah.
00:56:16
>> Uh Apple, if you want to buy them from
00:56:17
me, you can. Apple was like, "How do we
00:56:20
get Waveform to talk about Vision Pro?"
00:56:21
>> That's probably what happened.
00:56:22
>> That was exactly why they added that
00:56:24
>> and they nailed that.
00:56:24
>> They also couldn't really do make a ton
00:56:26
of updates to Vision Pro because the guy
00:56:28
that used to head up the Vision Pro is
00:56:30
now the head of Siri. And so that's why
00:56:32
Vision Pro is kind of like spiraling at
00:56:33
the moment.
00:56:34
>> King of Never mind, things that people
00:56:38
don't use very much.
00:56:39
>> Um, but there is like there is we're
00:56:40
going to talk about Siri in a bit, but
00:56:42
there is a floating Siri orb now that
00:56:44
you can interact with uh that's just
00:56:46
always there. This is my favorite thing
00:56:48
they announced. Period. In the in the
00:56:51
floating cereal.
00:56:52
>> The floating cereal app.
00:56:53
>> And the fact that you can move it
00:56:54
around. Yep.
00:56:55
>> It should have been Finder Guy.
00:56:57
>> It should have been, but it's not going
00:56:58
to be. And I'm
00:56:59
>> imagine him like popping.
00:57:00
>> But the cool thing about the You don't
00:57:01
want another Clippy, you know, like
00:57:03
>> No, that's exactly what I want.
00:57:06
>> He does want another Clippy.
00:57:08
>> You know, the Palunteer orb in Lord of
00:57:10
the Rings that not Palanteer, the
00:57:12
missile company, the
00:57:14
>> same rings evil guy.
00:57:16
>> Yeah. Do you know the Palanteer orb in
00:57:17
Lord of the Rings?
00:57:18
>> No.
00:57:18
>> No.
00:57:19
>> Okay. Well, it's the thing that they
00:57:21
like can look into that basically
00:57:23
teleports you to a different place and
00:57:25
you can like look around at it.
00:57:27
>> That's why they called it Palanteer cuz
00:57:28
it's like we're spying on everyone on
00:57:29
the planet.
00:57:30
>> Um, and I wish I was joking, but uh
00:57:34
anyway, that's basically what the Siri
00:57:35
orb looks like. You like look at it and
00:57:37
then suddenly you have magic access.
00:57:40
>> I just want my digital assistant to be
00:57:42
that orb. I think that is genius.
00:57:44
>> Yeah. put it everywhere.
00:57:46
>> Um, other interesting things about
00:57:47
Vision Pro, you can now like look at
00:57:49
things in your real environment and just
00:57:51
like ask Siri about them.
00:57:52
>> Yeah, they circle the search
00:57:54
>> circle search but in the real world.
00:57:56
>> Yeah.
00:57:57
>> And and there's new there's a new app
00:57:59
kit for Safari so that you can make 3D
00:58:02
environments inside of Safari. So if
00:58:04
you're in Safari and Vision Pro, you can
00:58:05
tap a little thing and then it envelops
00:58:06
you in the entire environment.
00:58:08
>> They also added Iceland.
00:58:09
>> Yeah, we can take Marquez to Iceland.
00:58:11
>> You know, I also offer Iceland. I also
00:58:14
offer Iceland environments, just so you
00:58:15
know. So,
00:58:16
>> and they're probably better. Does Google
00:58:18
>> the Apple lawyers on that one?
00:58:20
>> Iceland. Yeah,
00:58:21
>> Iceland. Okay. Uh, okay. We're basically
00:58:24
done with the hardware because tvOS
00:58:27
didn't really get upgraded. The HomePod
00:58:29
they just forgot existed, I think,
00:58:30
because it cannot run any of the Siri
00:58:34
stuff because it just doesn't have any
00:58:35
RAM.
00:58:35
>> Isn't that crazy? the the Siri box
00:58:39
doesn't do the new Siri. And everyone
00:58:42
who's bought a HomePod, by the way, all
00:58:44
the all the $400 HomePods out there and
00:58:46
the HomePod minis and all those, they're
00:58:47
not going to get the new Siri. So,
00:58:50
everyone who's sort of bought into like
00:58:52
the people who are most likely to
00:58:54
accidentally use Siri once in a while,
00:58:56
>> are not going to see these improvements.
00:58:57
Like,
00:58:58
>> the iPhone 16 not even have the new
00:59:00
Siri?
00:59:00
>> Uh, no. They'll have the new Siri, just
00:59:02
won't have the most advanced on device
00:59:03
models, which is like the couple of
00:59:04
small things like the notation or
00:59:06
dictation. But, uh, yeah, the Siri box
00:59:09
doesn't get better Siri.
00:59:10
>> To be fair, the original Home came out
00:59:11
in 2018, so they were not thinking about
00:59:13
this.
00:59:13
>> It's still like I bought my Google Home
00:59:15
Assistant in like 2018 or whatever, and
00:59:17
that has a new assistant that just got
00:59:19
updated this year,
00:59:20
>> but that's all cloud-based, whereas
00:59:22
Apple is like we're taking your personal
00:59:24
context from your local stuff.
00:59:26
>> That's true.
00:59:27
>> Yeah.
00:59:28
>> So, yeah. One thing as well we didn't
00:59:30
notice we didn't know earlier is that on
00:59:32
the iPhone like when you update there's
00:59:34
now this persistent notification in your
00:59:36
settings that's just like indexing in
00:59:38
progress.
00:59:38
>> Yeah. This is a big deal and we'll talk
00:59:40
about Siri so we might get to this in
00:59:41
the next section but this is a big part
00:59:43
of what makes Siri the new Siri. Yeah.
00:59:45
>> Is it's going to have way more personal
00:59:47
context. It will index all of your
00:59:49
stuff. May take some time to do that but
00:59:51
when it's done it'll be worth it.
00:59:53
>> Yeah. There's a few small last minute
00:59:55
things. Uh, AirPods now have
00:59:57
customizable EQ.
00:59:58
>> Oh, thank God. That is actually
00:59:59
>> Rufus cheered out loud during that.
01:00:02
>> Finally.
01:00:03
>> It's It's years overdate. I can't
01:00:05
believe it took this long.
01:00:06
>> It's so
01:00:07
>> Yeah. No, this is should be this should
01:00:09
have been a feature that came with them
01:00:10
like in AirPods 1 10 years ago. Yeah.
01:00:13
>> And it's it's ridiculous that it hasn't
01:00:15
had it forever. And it's a little
01:00:17
disappointing that it's only three bands
01:00:19
because
01:00:19
>> Yeah.
01:00:20
>> That's $1,000.
01:00:22
>> No.
01:00:23
>> Yeah. It's so expensive. Is it only
01:00:25
three? Is it just high, medium, low?
01:00:27
That's it. That was
01:00:27
>> Yep. Yeah, you have high, high, uh, high
01:00:30
end, mid.
01:00:31
>> I'll take what we can get. I'll take it.
01:00:32
>> I have a question about this
01:00:34
>> because isn't the whole point of AirPods
01:00:36
Pro and AirPods and stuff that it has
01:00:38
the adaptive EQ that will like adjust to
01:00:40
your ears and hearing. So, why even have
01:00:42
this?
01:00:43
>> So, yes. And that was basically their
01:00:45
their argument the entire time. And I
01:00:47
think if you asked if Ellis was here,
01:00:48
he'd be fuming about how things don't
01:00:50
sound like other things. But like yes,
01:00:53
Apple's AirPods are computers in your
01:00:54
ears and they're constantly adapting to
01:00:56
sounding differently all the time based
01:00:58
on your environment and based on what's
01:00:59
playing. And so the EQ theoretically is
01:01:03
also not like other EQs. It will it will
01:01:06
generally
01:01:08
>> it'll generally affect what you're
01:01:10
listening to, but not in a precise
01:01:12
scientific way. I still think that's
01:01:13
fine. I'm glad to have the
01:01:14
customization. It's about time. Every
01:01:17
time I review earbuds, I always talk
01:01:18
about how they sound out the box, but
01:01:20
also h this kind of doesn't matter that
01:01:21
much because you can make them sound the
01:01:23
way they want to. Yeah. But I've never
01:01:24
been able to say that about AirPods.
01:01:26
>> Now I can.
01:01:27
>> That's true.
01:01:27
>> I hope it's for all AirPods.
01:01:28
>> Some people think that the AirPods Pro 2
01:01:30
sound better than the AirPods Pro 3. One
01:01:32
of them
01:01:33
>> and that was a balance thing. And
01:01:34
ideally, this is what you can use to
01:01:37
dial that bass back a little bit and
01:01:38
actually make
01:01:39
>> You can have your AirPods 2 again.
01:01:40
>> I have a much I have a much more
01:01:41
granular critique that I will spare our
01:01:44
dear viewers. Um,
01:01:45
>> take it. But
01:01:46
>> no, I want to hear it.
01:01:47
>> You want to hear it?
01:01:48
>> Yeah.
01:01:49
>> So, when I listen uh to noises on my
01:01:52
AirPods Pro 3, which I did buy and I
01:01:54
still have, they're sitting on my desk
01:01:55
in case they ever get firmware updated.
01:01:57
When I type on a keyboard, I have this
01:01:59
little like resonance in like somewhere
01:02:01
between 600 and 2000 hertz. That's like
01:02:06
every time I'm typing it feels a little
01:02:08
thcky and and I just don't really like
01:02:10
that. It's just annoying. Every time I
01:02:12
get in a car and I close the door, it
01:02:13
sounds like a bomb goes off in my
01:02:16
>> That's actually very common.
01:02:19
>> Pro 3es do that all over the place. The
01:02:21
Pro Twos never did it. I don't know what
01:02:23
changed. Um and sometimes I feel like
01:02:26
the the
01:02:28
noise cancelling is so um it's really
01:02:32
good, but it's so powerful that I'm like
01:02:35
I'm just alienated from my environment.
01:02:37
It's just uncomfortable and I don't like
01:02:39
it. And just overall the the sound of
01:02:42
the Pro Twos is I it feels a little more
01:02:45
balanced. I feel like the Pro 3s have
01:02:48
like a a sharp high-end like the high
01:02:51
mid-range can get sharper, but that's a
01:02:54
threeb EQ isn't going to solve that. And
01:02:57
I just still use my Pro Twos even though
01:02:59
I I have three on my desk. I have the
01:03:02
Pro 3s on my desk and I only ever use
01:03:03
the Pro Twos because they just like are
01:03:05
the ones that I don't hate. I also won't
01:03:06
be using the EQ with them because I am
01:03:09
so used to the way the Pro Twos sound. I
01:03:12
use them to listen to so much material.
01:03:13
That's like how I check everything I
01:03:15
ever mix. I'm not changing that for
01:03:17
anything. Like that is my I know what
01:03:19
that sounds like really well. I'm not
01:03:21
>> I've heard from a few people that the
01:03:22
Pro 2 sound better than Pro 3 and I I'll
01:03:24
just trust you guys cuz I'm not the
01:03:26
master.
01:03:26
>> How do you feel about frequency response
01:03:28
charts?
01:03:29
>> I you know,
01:03:30
>> cut it off.
01:03:31
>> Cut them off.
01:03:32
>> I don't have too much to say about that.
01:03:35
Good.
01:03:36
>> And that is a good place to take a quick
01:03:38
break cuz we got plenty more to talk
01:03:40
about with Siri. And also we have a dad
01:03:42
here so we can talk about parental
01:03:43
controls cuz I want I want thoughts. But
01:03:46
before we do that, triviaup.
01:03:54
>> I'm going to add this in post. But were
01:03:55
you paying attention?
01:03:57
>> Of course I was paying attention.
01:03:58
>> Of course you were. So, you know that in
01:04:00
the Siri AI section, a notification
01:04:02
popped up that said the Golden Gate
01:04:05
Bridge is painted in a color officially
01:04:07
known as
01:04:09
>> Oh, what?
01:04:09
>> Oh, I did see that there.
01:04:11
>> I remember the obvious color part. I
01:04:14
don't remember the specific adjective.
01:04:17
>> I learned that while I watched it. Okay.
01:04:18
Yeah, I'm writing this down.
01:04:20
>> I was surprised by it. It's not what I
01:04:22
expected.
01:04:23
>> Not what you think. It's like mermaid
01:04:25
tail or something.
01:04:28
They would.
01:04:29
>> Dang. You know what's funny? Because
01:04:30
when you do the were you paying
01:04:31
attention clips,
01:04:32
>> typically I am I'm a mix of paying
01:04:35
attention. I'm paying close attention
01:04:36
sometimes, but I'm also live tweeting
01:04:39
and I'm also taking pictures. And so a
01:04:41
lot of times I'll have I'll see
01:04:42
something, I'll go, "Wow, that's really
01:04:44
interesting." And I'll take a picture
01:04:45
and I'll write it in my notes and I'll
01:04:46
live tweet it and then I'll look up and
01:04:48
people are applauding
01:04:50
>> and I definitely just missed something.
01:04:51
I missed something for sure.
01:04:53
>> Yeah.
01:04:53
>> So uh All right. I'm glad I got that
01:04:55
one.
01:04:55
>> Yeah. Okay.
01:04:57
>> Yes.
01:04:57
>> Well, we'll get back to uh Daddy after
01:04:59
the break.
01:05:00
>> Yeah. See you soon. Huh?
01:05:01
>> What?
01:05:04
>> Should we keep that?
01:05:05
>> I don't If you want. I don't know.
01:05:06
>> All right, let's keep that. Yeah.
01:05:07
>> I'm talking about Andrew, by the way.
01:05:09
>> Yeah.
01:05:09
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Something I was pretty even though this
01:06:27
is, you know, my kids are not old enough
01:06:29
to really be doing parental controls.
01:06:31
Lane does not have an iPhone. I'm
01:06:32
keeping her on an Android right now. Um
01:06:34
but um so there's
01:06:38
>> How old is she?
01:06:39
>> You're two.
01:06:42
um a bunch of new parental controls
01:06:44
which I think first of all they did all
01:06:47
of this because next they're going to
01:06:49
talk about AI so they wanted to be like
01:06:50
look at us we're safe we're private
01:06:53
>> applaud us
01:06:54
>> then we're going to talk about AI which
01:06:55
you're way more skeptical about and two
01:06:57
just cuz these are important and so many
01:06:59
more kids have phones and
01:07:02
>> ultimately with all the announcements
01:07:03
they did in this I think the biggest
01:07:04
thing they did was the redesign of
01:07:06
setting up child accounts which is like
01:07:09
just a much easier your setup process to
01:07:12
be able to include all of these new
01:07:14
restrictions and screen time and
01:07:16
everything. So, uh, they added a new
01:07:19
child's account, which one thing they
01:07:20
did was if you have a regular account
01:07:22
already on one of for one of your kids,
01:07:24
you can convert those accounts back to
01:07:25
this new children's account. Um, there's
01:07:28
a new setup assistant that I just
01:07:29
mentioned. Some of them are like
01:07:31
pre-made groups. Uh, one was just called
01:07:34
like essentials only, which has like
01:07:36
FaceTime, phone, messages, maps, and
01:07:39
settings. like those are the only apps
01:07:40
you are allowed. And then one thing they
01:07:42
also announced in that is
01:07:44
>> uh being able to gradually allow apps
01:07:47
after you already do the setup process
01:07:49
with uh the phones you're setting up,
01:07:51
which is cool. One of the ways that can
01:07:53
happen is whether it's through the app
01:07:55
store or I guess apps on your phones,
01:07:57
kids can request to be able to use apps
01:07:59
or download apps with their parents. So
01:08:01
like even in this spot right now, we've
01:08:04
had parental controls on computers and
01:08:07
phones and everything. they're just
01:08:08
trickier to set up. This is like a much
01:08:11
more granular practice of it. So, you
01:08:13
can start it off totally locked down,
01:08:16
>> you know, like I I got my first
01:08:18
smartphone or sorry, my first phone when
01:08:20
I was in seventh grade
01:08:22
>> old
01:08:23
>> because Yes. And it was because I
01:08:25
started playing sports and there was a
01:08:27
kid in our school who got or a different
01:08:29
school that got left behind at a a
01:08:30
school and the parents couldn't find
01:08:32
them. So, my mom was like, "You need a
01:08:33
way to contact me.
01:08:35
>> We're going to do this even though
01:08:36
you're probably too young to have a
01:08:37
phone. It is still traumatized from
01:08:39
because you started playing sports and
01:08:40
your mom could ever get van duel.
01:08:42
>> We never found him.
01:08:43
>> I have no use. Maybe listening out there
01:08:45
somewhere. But um so like
01:08:48
>> lock them down. You can call me in an
01:08:50
emergency. That's really all you should
01:08:51
be able to do first. Okay, now you're
01:08:53
showing you're more responsible. You can
01:08:55
open up this or that. Uh so I think
01:08:57
that's a cool way of doing it. There's
01:08:58
also the browser website request. So you
01:09:02
can just request to visit different
01:09:04
websites depending on how locked down
01:09:05
you are. Poly market.
01:09:08
>> If you're a parent and get that call
01:09:10
request, say hi.
01:09:13
>> That's hilarious. Um, so I really like
01:09:16
that idea of kids being asking for
01:09:18
approval. They also have um a new screen
01:09:21
time redesign which does a bunch of
01:09:23
different things. It lists groups or
01:09:25
apps in like different categories and
01:09:28
you can adjust allowances based on the
01:09:30
categories or based on times of day
01:09:32
which is awesome because you can really
01:09:34
limit screen time uh during school
01:09:37
hours.
01:09:37
>> Yeah, exactly. Pretty specifically like
01:09:39
you can request
01:09:40
>> like you can use apps out of school
01:09:43
hours more freely but if you're in
01:09:45
school
01:09:46
>> you better not be on Instagram.
01:09:48
>> Yeah. Or really on your phone at all.
01:09:50
>> Yeah. So true. Yeah. And so, and then I
01:09:52
do think it has uh inside the settings a
01:09:55
way to adjust allowances kind of like on
01:09:57
the fly. So, I'm sure whether your kid
01:09:59
was bad or good, you can then change
01:10:01
allowances based on that. Like, oh, you
01:10:03
did great on your test.
01:10:04
>> You can have 30 more minutes of YouTube
01:10:06
tonight.
01:10:07
>> Like that's probably a pretty cool way
01:10:09
of be huge for me.
01:10:10
>> 30 more minutes of baby. Is that going
01:10:12
to be your parenting style?
01:10:14
>> Mine. She's never going to have a phone.
01:10:16
>> Really?
01:10:17
>> No, she'll have a phone for sure. But I
01:10:19
like just thinking about
01:10:20
>> humane AI pen cuz you can't do anything
01:10:23
with it.
01:10:24
>> I think straight to smart glasses is the
01:10:25
move. Yeah.
01:10:26
>> Straight to smart glasses.
01:10:27
>> Straight to AI.
01:10:28
>> Well, the glasses will be the the
01:10:29
paradigm by the time she's old enough to
01:10:31
have it. Won't even need
01:10:32
>> I do think about it all the time of like
01:10:33
the I got away with as a kid
01:10:36
>> and how my kids will not be able to get
01:10:39
away with anything. I will know pretty
01:10:41
much everything that happens.
01:10:42
>> That's what we think. But it's cuz the
01:10:44
new generation will be getting away with
01:10:46
different stuff.
01:10:47
>> Yeah. Well, new generations don't have a
01:10:48
dad who's on a tech podcast that knows
01:10:50
all the I can do. So, they're screwed.
01:10:52
Sorry, guys.
01:10:53
>> Do you know Do you know what your kids
01:10:54
are doing in the metaverse?
01:10:55
>> They won't be in the metaverse.
01:10:57
>> How do you know? How will you know?
01:10:58
>> Cuz the metaverse already is given up on
01:11:00
by Meta.
01:11:01
>> Yeah, but the but they're going to be in
01:11:02
Neuralink,
01:11:04
>> you know. They're going to be trading on
01:11:05
the front. Yeah. I don't know what
01:11:07
you're thinking about. No.
01:11:08
>> Yeah,
01:11:09
>> unfortunately. But the computer does,
01:11:11
Elon Musk does. One question I had for
01:11:14
you guys who had
01:11:16
>> no kids,
01:11:16
>> went through
01:11:17
>> 31 years old,
01:11:19
>> unmarried.
01:11:21
>> I mean, that's
01:11:22
>> childless tech man.
01:11:25
>> Um, so they're doing a thing where you
01:11:27
can also approve new contacts in apps.
01:11:29
They just called it where FaceTime
01:11:30
messages, phone are pretty obvious. Do
01:11:32
you know if it extends into other apps?
01:11:35
because the contacts that I would be the
01:11:37
most worried about are Roblox or
01:11:40
WhatsApp are a little more onliney
01:11:43
things and I don't know if they even
01:11:45
would be able to do that but they first
01:11:47
just said contacts and apps and I was
01:11:48
like in the online video game world
01:11:51
that's where the predators are that's
01:11:52
where I want my kids requesting
01:11:54
>> I do think that is for a long time been
01:11:56
the challenge of a lot of these tools is
01:11:58
you can restrict which apps they do or
01:12:00
don't have access to but then once you
01:12:02
go into those apps the content in the
01:12:03
apps is kind of like you if you just
01:12:05
give them YouTube,
01:12:07
>> YouTube is all of the stuff on YouTube.
01:12:10
>> So I think that's that's more of like a
01:12:12
high level control of like once they're
01:12:14
in that app, it's everything that comes
01:12:15
with that app. Remember during the Epic
01:12:17
and Google trial, they had like a three
01:12:19
day long disposition on what a game is.
01:12:22
>> So I don't think
01:12:23
>> yeah, it probably won't, but that would
01:12:26
be something.
01:12:26
>> I mean, they did add the like age API
01:12:29
thing that developers could implement.
01:12:30
So that's like maybe one indicator of
01:12:33
how they're looking at doing this kind
01:12:34
of stuff.
01:12:35
>> It all is pretty cool. I like how
01:12:37
granular it is. And I just really think
01:12:38
the most important thing here is how
01:12:40
easy it is to set up for parents. So
01:12:44
parents will just actually use it.
01:12:46
>> And Apple launched a dedicated website
01:12:48
for parents to actually learn how to use
01:12:50
this, which is helpful. Again,
01:12:52
>> I think that these features are like
01:12:54
super important. I also think that most
01:12:57
parents don't know they exist. So any
01:13:00
way that Apple can get out even Google,
01:13:02
Apple, whoever is making these parental
01:13:03
control features like
01:13:05
>> to bring awareness to these things, I
01:13:07
think that's very very important. They
01:13:08
should have a setup.
01:13:10
>> Yeah.
01:13:10
>> Yeah.
01:13:11
>> But they will say like when you do set
01:13:12
up an iPhone, it there is a I'm setting
01:13:14
this up for someone else and then it
01:13:15
asks is it a kid? And then I think they
01:13:17
probably give you some sort of setup
01:13:19
flow for like parental controls. So
01:13:21
>> and their age and all that.
01:13:22
>> Yeah.
01:13:23
>> So that's great. I was in um my briefing
01:13:26
for this with a bunch of parents and
01:13:28
they loved this part of the the
01:13:30
briefing.
01:13:31
>> I'm so happy I don't have to deal with
01:13:32
it yet. I've got a few years. But
01:13:34
>> yeah, there were people I guess most of
01:13:35
them were actively trying to do some
01:13:38
sort of like parental controls with the
01:13:39
existing tools and the the requests that
01:13:42
they had were basically all solved by
01:13:44
these new sets of tools. So that was
01:13:46
cool to see.
01:13:46
>> I'm just imagining me with my phone up
01:13:48
and being like, "La, clean up your
01:13:49
toys." And I have the slider for like
01:13:51
YouTube allowance like right here and
01:13:52
she's watching it tick down as she's
01:13:54
like not doing what I want her.
01:13:56
>> Yeah. No Roblox for you.
01:13:57
>> My other read on this which was I don't
01:13:59
know if this is just the way I think
01:13:59
about tech companies. It's just like
01:14:02
>> get your kid an iPhone.
01:14:04
>> Yeah. Kid an iPhone because you'll have
01:14:07
all these tools and it'll be super
01:14:08
great. And also when the kid gets used
01:14:09
to the iPhone super super early they are
01:14:11
much more likely to continue to buy
01:14:13
iPhones as they grow up.
01:14:14
>> Yeah.
01:14:14
>> And uh we know the story of Yeah. Yeah,
01:14:16
we know the story of the iPhone in the
01:14:18
US is like kids just want iPhones. So,
01:14:20
>> yeah,
01:14:21
>> now you have a good reason to get them.
01:14:22
>> Get your mom an iPhone.
01:14:23
>> Yeah,
01:14:24
>> get your kid an iPhone.
01:14:25
>> So, that's biggest, baddest, most
01:14:28
anticipated 2-year weight of all time.
01:14:31
Bigger than Avengers Endgame. It's Siri
01:14:34
and Siri AI, which is just Siri with
01:14:36
another name. So, the new Siri be back.
01:14:40
Okay. Yeah. At a high level. Yeah,
01:14:43
>> I feel that the new Siri is
01:14:47
not that crazy. It is about what we
01:14:50
expected as far as capabilities. Anyway,
01:14:53
the thing that Apple always does when
01:14:55
they introduce a new thing, especially
01:14:57
if it's in a new product category, is
01:14:59
they make it the thing that works with
01:15:01
the iPhone and the rest of the ecosystem
01:15:03
really well. So, you have other AI
01:15:06
tools, especially large language models
01:15:07
that you can use. You've been able to
01:15:09
get Gemini on your iPhone and Claude and
01:15:11
Chat GPT. What is the thing about Siri
01:15:14
that would make you even try to use it
01:15:15
when you already have those things?
01:15:16
Well, it's the one that can plug deeply
01:15:18
into your your personal context and the
01:15:21
stuff that's on your iPhone. Okay,
01:15:22
great. What does that mean? That means
01:15:24
it can read your iMes. It can look at
01:15:26
your calendar. It can see things that
01:15:27
were in your group chats and your notes
01:15:29
in your email because it's on your
01:15:31
phone. And it can actually search
01:15:34
through that stuff. It's indexed uh very
01:15:37
very specifically and can even take some
01:15:39
actions on your behalf mostly just by
01:15:41
digging into apps. It can send messages
01:15:43
for you. It can add calendar events,
01:15:45
reminders, notes, all using those like
01:15:48
firstparty Apple apps. My immediate
01:15:52
question seeing all that stuff was,
01:15:54
well, what if I don't use all those
01:15:56
Apple apps, right? I I obviously you can
01:15:58
use iMessage, but what if I use
01:15:59
WhatsApp? What if I use Google Calendar?
01:16:01
What if I use Spotify? What if I use a
01:16:03
different podcast app? Is this stuff
01:16:05
going to work? Anyway, the idea is if
01:16:06
you have a specific app that you want it
01:16:08
to use for request, like if I have say
01:16:12
Pocketcast that I wanted to open podcast
01:16:13
with, if I ever go, "Hey Siri," which
01:16:17
Sorry for triggering all of your series.
01:16:18
If I ever say that and go, "What is that
01:16:21
podcast that uh Kevin recommended uh a
01:16:24
week ago? Can you play that?" It'll go
01:16:26
search through your iMessage, find the
01:16:27
podcast, and play it by default.
01:16:29
>> And it'll just play Waveform.
01:16:31
>> If it's a supported app,
01:16:32
>> it'll play it. It'll play it by default
01:16:34
in Apple podcast, but if I ask for it to
01:16:36
play in Pockycast and the developer has
01:16:38
enabled that, then
01:16:40
>> it should work.
01:16:41
>> You can go into the default apps section
01:16:43
and there are default apps for email
01:16:46
messaging, calling, call filtering,
01:16:47
browser, translation, passwords,
01:16:49
>> but that's for clicks, not for Siri.
01:16:52
>> I think Siri will access these as well.
01:16:55
>> Really?
01:16:55
>> So, if I say, let's see, let's try this
01:16:56
because I just changed my default uh
01:16:59
email app to Gmail.
01:17:00
>> Okay. Hey Siri,
01:17:02
send an email to Adam Molina uh telling
01:17:05
him he needs to pick me up Oh, it just
01:17:06
died. Okay, let's try again.
01:17:08
>> It's a bug. It's It's beta software.
01:17:11
Send an email to Adam Molina telling him
01:17:12
to pick me up milk after work.
01:17:14
>> Got you, fam.
01:17:15
>> All right. Uh yeah, it didn't do Gmail,
01:17:18
>> but it did say pick up milk milk after
01:17:20
work set for my iPhone.
01:17:22
>> And it did Apple Mail.
01:17:23
>> It did Apple.
01:17:24
>> Okay. So, that's my suspicion. So, we'll
01:17:26
see how that works and we'll see. Wait,
01:17:27
let me ask
01:17:28
>> Well, it composed it and then you can
01:17:30
>> let me ask let me ask to the dude Gmail.
01:17:33
>> Okay.
01:17:33
>> Hey Siri, send an email with Gmail
01:17:36
telling Adam Molina to pick me up milk
01:17:39
after work.
01:17:41
>> It is obviously not as quick outside of
01:17:43
its own app.
01:17:44
>> Yeah, that's true. Didn't Well, while
01:17:46
that's loading, wasn't there something
01:17:47
that uh in order to not set off anyone's
01:17:51
series during the event that they like
01:17:53
broadcast
01:17:54
>> allegedly they cut certain frequencies
01:17:57
that I guess were in the S and whatever
01:18:01
other letter made it easy to identify
01:18:02
the word.
01:18:03
>> I want to try it out.
01:18:04
>> Yeah,
01:18:04
>> this beta software is really taking
01:18:07
time.
01:18:08
>> I think the Siri loading icon, which is
01:18:10
like six dots spinning around, should
01:18:11
have been the beach ball. I still need
01:18:14
email address to send the email. What is
01:18:16
it?
01:18:16
>> Beep it out.
01:18:17
>> Wow.
01:18:18
>> Uh adamolina.com.
01:18:22
>> It still opened Apple Apple Mail
01:18:25
>> after all.
01:18:26
>> Yeah.
01:18:26
>> Yeah, it doesn't. Yeah, you can't do it.
01:18:29
So, not right now.
01:18:30
>> As an iPhone user, like many others who
01:18:33
use things like Google Calendar and not
01:18:34
Apple Calendar, who use things like
01:18:37
>> tick tick and not Apple reminders, etc.,
01:18:40
etc. I wonder how much of this stuff
01:18:42
will work or be feasible to use. I'm now
01:18:46
sad because yeah, that kind of Yeah,
01:18:49
because Google Maps, I use Google Maps,
01:18:51
I use Gmail, I use Pocketcast. I don't
01:18:54
want to use only Apple apps.
01:18:56
>> There's lots of developers at that
01:18:57
keynote that make alternatives to
01:18:59
Apple's apps.
01:19:00
>> Yes,
01:19:00
>> but I would imagine they would still
01:19:02
have to implement this, right? Like not
01:19:04
all of these features have been built
01:19:06
into Gmail yet, you know?
01:19:08
>> Yeah, true. Maybe there are updates to
01:19:10
these apps coming that will support and
01:19:11
then this this will work flawlessly.
01:19:13
>> Technically, yeah, I think Apple
01:19:14
basically said that the developers have
01:19:16
to support. It wasn't app clips. It was
01:19:19
app intense. App Intense
01:19:21
>> which is a thing that they've had for a
01:19:22
while now. Um but apparently Google has
01:19:24
just not really supported them in a lot
01:19:26
of Google apps cuz they have that little
01:19:27
micro war which is really annoying even
01:19:29
if they both pay each other like a
01:19:30
billion dollars financing. The other
01:19:33
thing is like how much of it is going to
01:19:34
be on the device cuz I know like
01:19:36
iMessage it it knows all my iMes
01:19:39
>> but what about my Google calendar? It's
01:19:42
not that's not all on my phone. It's
01:19:43
kind of nebulous. They they did go into
01:19:45
detail about the different models and
01:19:47
how much they access the cloud versus
01:19:49
how much they have an ondevice. They
01:19:51
didn't say what apps can do on device
01:19:54
versus what can't. I know that um there
01:19:57
was a rumor going around that even if
01:19:59
setting a timer would hit the private
01:20:01
cloud compute server, but I asked
01:20:04
someone at Apple about this and they
01:20:05
were like it'll get worked out. The
01:20:07
things that can happen on the iPhone
01:20:10
should just happen on the iPhone without
01:20:11
having to leave. So there's five there's
01:20:13
five models and this is a little bit
01:20:15
confusing. Um it's not actually using
01:20:18
Gemini allegedly. Apple says that they
01:20:21
they are licensing a one trill 1.2 2
01:20:24
trillion parameter Gemini model for
01:20:27
about a billion a year as a teacher for
01:20:30
the Apple Foundation models. It sounds
01:20:33
like they're building their own
01:20:34
foundation models by basically
01:20:36
distilling Gemini answers. Um
01:20:38
>> Siri got a tutor
01:20:39
>> kind of. It's a tutor.
01:20:41
>> It's a private tutor.
01:20:41
>> They're building their own models based
01:20:43
on their own data sets is what they
01:20:44
said, but they're using Gemini to sort
01:20:46
of like teach their model how to be a
01:20:49
model. I don't understand anything. If I
01:20:50
was a car company
01:20:52
>> and I had a billion dollar a year
01:20:55
partnership with another car company.
01:20:57
>> Yeah.
01:20:57
>> And I was going to make my own car, but
01:20:59
I was going to use that partnership to
01:21:01
have the other car company teach me how
01:21:04
to build a car.
01:21:05
>> Toyota,
01:21:06
>> you would end up with a car that looks
01:21:09
and works and acts a lot like the one
01:21:12
you're getting tutored from, but you'd
01:21:14
be able to technically say
01:21:15
>> correct
01:21:16
>> that it's not a copy of the other. It
01:21:19
did say they use their own data sets, so
01:21:22
that's something.
01:21:22
>> Yeah, we use our own tires and our own
01:21:25
materials. I have no idea how to put
01:21:26
them together, but I have the blueprint
01:21:28
of a Toyota Prius.
01:21:30
>> And so when I put these things together
01:21:32
using the instructions from the Prius,
01:21:34
it's probably going to end up looking
01:21:36
like the Prius,
01:21:37
>> but it's not Toyota's tires. It's my
01:21:39
tires. So don't you call it a Toyota
01:21:41
car.
01:21:42
>> Yeah.
01:21:42
>> Okay.
01:21:43
>> That's how Craig kind of
01:21:44
>> sounds a lot like distillation. Um,
01:21:46
>> do you think for a billion a year they
01:21:48
just now they only pay $19 billion to
01:21:51
Apple to be the uh search engine? Yeah,
01:21:54
there's a lot of back and forth
01:21:56
financing going on receipt after.
01:21:58
>> So there's five main models. There's two
01:22:00
ondevice models. There's AFM3 core which
01:22:03
is Apple foundation model 3 core that
01:22:06
happens for a very simple task. It's a
01:22:07
three billion parameter model that
01:22:09
should be able to do things like setting
01:22:10
a timer etc. AFM3 Core Advanced, which
01:22:14
is their most advanced ondevice model,
01:22:16
which has 20 billion parameters, but it
01:22:18
kind of uses the like mixture of experts
01:22:20
technique where it only accesses between
01:22:21
1 to four billion parameters at a time
01:22:23
to actually do stuff. So, I believe
01:22:26
that's the one that can only work on the
01:22:28
like iPhone Pro and like the latest one
01:22:30
that won't work on the regular iPhone 16
01:22:32
or iPhone 15 Pro, etc.
01:22:34
>> The one built from the ground up,
01:22:35
>> built for Apple intelligence. You guys
01:22:37
who bought that iPhone that was built
01:22:39
for Apple intelligence better get your
01:22:40
$95 now. Uh, and then there's three
01:22:44
private cloud compute models. There's
01:22:45
AFM3 cloud, which is heavier cloud
01:22:48
requests, which I assume is just stuff
01:22:51
that the local model can't handle. AFM3
01:22:54
cloud image, which is sounds like a
01:22:56
distillation or some form of version of
01:22:58
Nano Banana that is Apple's version of
01:23:00
Nano Banana. And then there's AFM3Cloud
01:23:03
Pro, um, which is their heaviest tool.
01:23:05
They specifically called out that it
01:23:07
uses Google Cloud infrastructure and it
01:23:09
specifically called out that it uses
01:23:11
Nvidia GPUs.
01:23:12
>> Is this the one you think that will go
01:23:14
through and unsubscribe if you do that?
01:23:16
>> Like the agentic stuff?
01:23:18
>> Aentic stuff. Yeah. Or not unsubscribe.
01:23:19
Change your passwords.
01:23:20
>> Change your passwords.
01:23:21
>> Yeah.
01:23:21
>> Oh,
01:23:22
>> maybe. I don't know.
01:23:24
>> That seems like complex
01:23:25
>> which ones they're going to need a
01:23:26
Nvidia GPUs for or if they just did that
01:23:29
because there's some weird payment going
01:23:31
on between Nvidia. I have no idea. It
01:23:33
feels weird because like the most like
01:23:35
that is a very privacy centered thing
01:23:37
which I would assume would go through
01:23:39
their private stuff but they're saying
01:23:41
the heavier stuff like that would be
01:23:42
through
01:23:43
>> there was some murkiness cuz they were
01:23:44
saying all of the cloud models are
01:23:48
through private cloud compute but then
01:23:50
some people were saying that the most
01:23:51
hardcore one that uses Google cloud
01:23:53
infrastructure they said it still has
01:23:55
the benefits of private cloud compute
01:23:57
and they were very specific about that
01:23:59
verbiage. Yeah, cuz Google made their
01:24:01
own version of it basically. So I would
01:24:03
imagine those are just being routed
01:24:05
through Google servers.
01:24:06
>> Probably what it is,
01:24:06
>> but then they wouldn't say it's only on
01:24:09
Apple servers. Like I feel like Apple
01:24:10
still wouldn't do that.
01:24:11
>> Yeah.
01:24:11
>> I don't know. It's all very
01:24:13
>> It's all too nebulous and we don't want
01:24:14
to make any big claims.
01:24:16
>> Um, okay. I think that we should get
01:24:17
down to what Siri actually does because
01:24:20
there's three main pillars of what
01:24:22
Google or what Apple is saying that Siri
01:24:25
can actually do. So there's personal
01:24:26
context.
01:24:27
>> Mhm.
01:24:28
>> Which is Siri can draw from all your
01:24:29
personal apps like messages, Google
01:24:31
photos, email, and calendar to take
01:24:34
actions for you. So you can say like,
01:24:36
"Hey Siri, when's mom's flight landing?"
01:24:38
And because it had know you have a
01:24:40
contact called mom and it can search
01:24:41
through your messages and she texted you
01:24:43
when her flight is landing, it'll just
01:24:45
tell you. And that's helpful. There's
01:24:47
on-screen awareness, which is Siri being
01:24:49
able to analyze what's on your screen.
01:24:50
It's basically circle search. Um, it can
01:24:52
add things to your calendar. it can like
01:24:54
you can ask it things about the things
01:24:56
that are on your screen etc.
01:24:58
>> And then there's inapp actions which is
01:25:00
where Siri can perform and chain tasks
01:25:02
together across tasks. So if you pull a
01:25:05
photo into an email or you make a
01:25:07
schedule based on your notes, that's
01:25:09
where it's manipulating your apps for
01:25:10
you.
01:25:11
>> Yeah.
01:25:12
>> Um to do this, they now also have a
01:25:15
dedicated Siri app.
01:25:16
>> Yeah. So all of your apps, all of your
01:25:18
devices are going to get this Siri app
01:25:20
and it's essentially like a memory bank
01:25:22
for all the things that you've been
01:25:23
asking Siri. So obviously if you use any
01:25:25
of these others, you've seen like the
01:25:27
sidebar of all your previous queries.
01:25:29
This isn't 100% of your queries because
01:25:31
you might just ask Siri what the weather
01:25:33
is and doesn't want to save everything,
01:25:34
but it's the things that are uh you know
01:25:36
a little more context. You might want to
01:25:37
come back to them. It's all your
01:25:38
memories and it will sync across devices
01:25:41
so you can pick up where you left off
01:25:43
from one request or one conversation to
01:25:45
the next. Yeah.
01:25:47
>> Uh, and this little hub where all your
01:25:48
Siri stuff will be.
01:25:49
>> And there's there's an interesting
01:25:50
interface on the iPhone specifically,
01:25:53
but I'm sure you can do it on other
01:25:54
computers as well, where when you ask
01:25:56
Siri a question, it will give you like a
01:25:58
highle answer, but then you can pull
01:26:00
down the little orb that kind of pops up
01:26:03
and it'll it'll just sort of like
01:26:06
fluidly open the app.
01:26:07
>> It'll splat open.
01:26:08
>> Splat. Yeah, it'll gouge and splat.
01:26:11
>> It doesn't feel like it's opening an
01:26:13
app, but it's sort of just like this
01:26:14
extension of itself. But it is the app.
01:26:16
This is
01:26:17
>> something strange about how black the
01:26:20
background is of it. Yeah.
01:26:21
>> It's just like
01:26:22
>> is a very basic looking app
01:26:23
>> because it looks like a dynamic island
01:26:24
pops open, but then it looks like the
01:26:26
dynamic island just takes over your
01:26:27
whole screen except for a little bit of
01:26:29
transparency at the bottom and it's just
01:26:31
>> black white text.
01:26:33
>> I kind of liked it. So, I had one thing
01:26:34
that I really liked and one thing I
01:26:35
really didn't like. The thing that I
01:26:37
really liked was the way it seems to it
01:26:39
it comes out of the dynamic island and
01:26:41
then you can extend it and it just seems
01:26:42
to always act like an overlay. So, I
01:26:45
thought that that visual consistency of
01:26:47
it always just happening on top of
01:26:48
whatever you're doing makes sense.
01:26:50
That's the same thing like Gemini will
01:26:51
do. If you want to show it stuff on your
01:26:53
screen, it always feels like it's on
01:26:54
top. So, I thought that visually that
01:26:56
made a lot of sense. And that's the same
01:26:59
on the Mac and the iPad. It always looks
01:27:00
like a little window. The thing I didn't
01:27:02
love, and it's subtle, but I think it
01:27:03
makes a big difference for confidence
01:27:04
using it, is it doesn't transcribe what
01:27:07
you're saying visually as you're
01:27:08
talking. It just listens and shows a
01:27:11
little orb. And then when you're done
01:27:13
talking, boom, that's the text that you
01:27:15
just inputed.
01:27:16
>> And it's a little thing, but when it
01:27:18
shows the text as I'm talking, which
01:27:21
like the rest of like Google especially
01:27:23
does this really well, that gives me a
01:27:25
good sense of like, okay, it's
01:27:26
understanding what I'm saying, and
01:27:27
here's what it has so far, and here's
01:27:28
the rest of what I want to say. I wish
01:27:30
it I wish it did that.
01:27:31
>> Yeah,
01:27:31
>> cuz if you say something really long,
01:27:33
but it doesn't get it right in the
01:27:35
beginning. Now you've said the whole
01:27:37
thing, but all of that could be wrong
01:27:38
because of the first sentence where if
01:27:40
you see it in live, you can be like,
01:27:42
"Oh, no, no, no. That's
01:27:43
>> Yeah, I can start over." Yeah. So, that
01:27:44
that's a little thing that I wish they
01:27:46
did differently. Maybe they will.
01:27:47
There's still time to update the
01:27:48
software.
01:27:49
>> Yeah.
01:27:49
>> Uh but yeah, it does seem like it's sort
01:27:51
of over always in overlay mode happening
01:27:54
on top of whatever you're just doing on
01:27:55
your phone.
01:27:55
>> Yeah. Have you messed with Siri at all
01:27:57
and tried to get it to do edge cases and
01:27:59
stuff yet?
01:28:00
>> No, I'm updating my my Pro right now.
01:28:02
That's what I'm going to be beta testing
01:28:03
on cuz I want to do it on my main
01:28:05
device. So all of this for me is just
01:28:07
from Keynote and from hands-on I got at
01:28:09
Apple Park.
01:28:10
>> Yeah, I had a couple delightful
01:28:12
experiences with Siri where I didn't
01:28:14
expect it to work and it did.
01:28:15
>> And I have I had a couple where it just
01:28:17
utterly failed.
01:28:18
>> Yeah.
01:28:18
>> Um as classic, but one that was really
01:28:22
surprising to me. So, I was uh the way
01:28:24
that these events work is we get we get
01:28:26
briefing schedules before the keynote,
01:28:29
but the but on the schedule it'll be
01:28:31
like 1:00 p.m. to 2 p.m. It just says
01:28:34
briefing because they want you to know
01:28:36
like what to prepare for, but not like
01:28:38
what specifically to prepare for because
01:28:39
you haven't seen the keynote yet. Then
01:28:41
you go to the keynote and then you've
01:28:42
learned everything and then they give
01:28:44
you another briefing schedule that tells
01:28:46
you what the actual briefing is about.
01:28:48
>> It unmasks the names of the briefings.
01:28:49
>> Yeah. So, I had been referencing my
01:28:52
briefing email like all day to make sure
01:28:54
I was like making it to my briefings on
01:28:56
time and it got really annoying because
01:28:58
I had to keep searching my email like a
01:28:59
bunch of times. Was like, "Oh, this is
01:29:01
an interesting Siri dynamic." So, I was
01:29:04
like, "Hey Siri, can you make a note of
01:29:07
my WWDC briefing schedule?" And it did.
01:29:10
It just in it was like, "Here you go."
01:29:12
And so, it pulled it out of my email,
01:29:14
>> but it pulled out the original schedule.
01:29:17
So, it just said briefing.
01:29:18
>> Yeah. So I said, "Hey, can you actually
01:29:20
update that with the most recent one
01:29:22
that gives more details?" And then it
01:29:23
did that
01:29:24
>> and it was cool.
01:29:25
>> And I was like, "Dan, that actually
01:29:27
worked."
01:29:27
>> Then I said, "Actually, can you add this
01:29:30
to my email or to my calendar?"
01:29:32
>> And it added the first two to my
01:29:34
calendar. And then I said, "Can you add
01:29:36
the other three to my calendar?" And it
01:29:38
added two more to my calendar. I said,
01:29:40
"Can you add the last one to my
01:29:42
calendar?" And then it finally added the
01:29:43
last one.
01:29:44
>> So there's weird chunks. And then also,
01:29:46
it only added it to my Apple calendar.
01:29:48
and I can't get it to my Google.
01:29:50
>> That's what I expected.
01:29:51
>> This is the problem. That's the main
01:29:53
problem.
01:29:54
>> A part of me wants to just go all in on
01:29:56
Apple's ecosystem.
01:29:58
>> Oh, this is what it's designed to do.
01:30:00
What they want,
01:30:03
>> you're the last person that could even
01:30:04
do this, man.
01:30:05
>> Listen, it's for science. I like jumping
01:30:07
between things just to see.
01:30:08
>> Look, the golden gates of this walled
01:30:10
garden are so shiny. If you are if you
01:30:13
are just entirely in apple walls,
01:30:16
>> everything works,
01:30:16
>> dude. It work. It's awesome. Add it to
01:30:19
my
01:30:19
>> Apple's Golden Gate Bridge.
01:30:20
>> And that's fine. And if you use Gemini,
01:30:22
it's all going to be great. It'll look
01:30:23
in your email, look in your Google
01:30:24
calendar, just always looking through
01:30:26
all your stuff. But if you do if you do
01:30:28
the Apple thing, it will use Apple
01:30:29
reminders. It will use Apple podcast. It
01:30:31
will use Apple Calendar. You use
01:30:33
iMessage. It'll do all the stuff you
01:30:34
want because that's all the services you
01:30:36
use,
01:30:36
>> right?
01:30:37
>> And that that sounds pretty nice, but
01:30:41
don't don't let yourself become that
01:30:42
person cuz
01:30:44
>> they haven't shocked everything yet.
01:30:45
>> Yeah. So, we're we're obviously still in
01:30:47
the very early testing stages of Siri.
01:30:49
Um, I tried it again with another thing,
01:30:50
like we I was heading towards the
01:30:52
airport, but I had some time for dinner
01:30:53
and I wanted a burrito, but I wanted to
01:30:55
sit outside, but I wanted to be on a
01:30:56
back patio, so I was like, "This is
01:30:58
awesome." So, I just gave it a million
01:31:00
different parameters of this query, and
01:31:02
it did find me some places. Um, one of
01:31:04
them was not Mexican, but
01:31:07
>> most of them were. So, I, you know,
01:31:10
>> this is what's going to happen.
01:31:11
>> We're getting there. Everyone's going to
01:31:12
have to start testing this stuff and
01:31:13
using it.
01:31:14
>> And it's either going to work all the
01:31:16
time in ways that are surprising and
01:31:18
great
01:31:20
>> or and this is what I think is more
01:31:21
likely to happen is people are going to
01:31:23
try to push it to its limits and try to
01:31:25
ask it to do more and more interesting
01:31:26
things because remember every time
01:31:27
something new comes out people try to
01:31:28
break it. Yeah.
01:31:29
>> Going all the way back to Bing. Like
01:31:31
people are just trying to break it and
01:31:32
it's going to fail. And I wonder what
01:31:34
it's going to look like slact when it
01:31:37
fails. How does it fail? Does it
01:31:39
confidently get things wrong or does it
01:31:40
just go, "Hey, I can't do that." That'll
01:31:42
be what we start seeing in videos and
01:31:43
how to judge if it's actually capable or
01:31:45
good or not.
01:31:46
>> One thing, so I I kind of I ran into
01:31:48
that because I asked it, "What time does
01:31:50
my flight board?" Because I don't think
01:31:52
that's necessarily something that it
01:31:53
tells you in the email, but I was like,
01:31:54
"Maybe you can find that information
01:31:55
anyway."
01:31:56
>> So I asked it and it went around
01:31:58
forever. It was like And eventually it
01:32:00
came back with I can't tell you the
01:32:02
exact time. However, most flights board
01:32:04
about 40 minutes before.
01:32:07
So wrong.
01:32:08
>> That's something
01:32:10
>> unless you're Marquez
01:32:11
>> or you're going internationally, which
01:32:12
they want you to board an hour before.
01:32:14
So I don't I mean
01:32:16
>> at least it wasn't just I can't help
01:32:17
with that, which was the entire Siri
01:32:19
experience before this.
01:32:21
>> Yeah.
01:32:21
>> Hey, set a timer. I can't help with
01:32:22
that. What did you say?
01:32:24
>> Now it's just even longer saying I can't
01:32:26
help with that.
01:32:26
>> And we take someone out for sure.
01:32:28
>> Yeah.
01:32:28
>> Yeah. Really quickly on the Mac when
01:32:30
you're using Siri, they built in
01:32:32
spotlight. So that's a cool interaction
01:32:34
paradigm. So be careful. It's basically
01:32:37
>> Be careful careful.
01:32:38
>> I haven't put up the third finger yet
01:32:40
for for the Sherlock, but it's close.
01:32:42
>> So, when you use your command space to
01:32:44
use Spotlight, um not only is Spotlight
01:32:46
way faster and way faster at finding
01:32:48
files because that indexing stuff we
01:32:49
talked about earlier, but now if it
01:32:51
detects that it's a question or an
01:32:52
action that it can take. Um there's a do
01:32:54
this with Siri button and it's cool. And
01:32:57
then also in the screenshot tool, which
01:32:58
is command shift 4 or command shift 5,
01:33:01
there's a Siri option now too, where you
01:33:03
can basically circle the search on your
01:33:04
screen and take action with the adure
01:33:06
calendar, do stuff like that.
01:33:08
>> That's really cool. And then there's a
01:33:09
dedicated Siri app on the on the Mac as
01:33:12
well. So,
01:33:12
>> and the floating orb on Vision Pro.
01:33:13
>> The floating orb,
01:33:14
>> Adam's favorite.
01:33:15
>> Yeah, the Palunteer orb.
01:33:16
>> Yeah.
01:33:17
>> Um, yeah. So, that's practically it.
01:33:20
There's some weird things. It's not
01:33:21
going to be Siri on the iPhone is not
01:33:24
going to be available in the EU or China
01:33:26
for now because of DMA um stuff, but it
01:33:29
is available on the Mac in the EU
01:33:31
because their thing only covers
01:33:32
smartphones and not computers.
01:33:35
>> It's English only, right?
01:33:36
>> And it's English only for now as well.
01:33:38
Um you can also now customize Siri voice
01:33:41
and change the expressiveness and speed.
01:33:44
Um it's definitely not a leading class
01:33:47
voice model. I'm going to be honest. I
01:33:49
heard some samples. It's not terrible.
01:33:52
>> Sounds all right.
01:33:52
>> It sounds all right.
01:33:54
>> Sounds all right.
01:33:55
>> Yeah, I'll definitely be testing all
01:33:57
this stuff, reviewing it obviously when
01:33:59
the time comes. Definitely got
01:34:00
subscribed. If you guys have any
01:34:02
questions, you're listening to this, you
01:34:03
want to know like if I try to do
01:34:05
something, if it works or not, leave
01:34:06
that down below. I want to know what you
01:34:07
want to see if it's capable of or not.
01:34:09
>> Yes.
01:34:09
>> Well, that was fun.
01:34:10
>> That was dubdub.
01:34:12
>> What's the question? Did it
01:34:13
>> Oh, yeah. Trivia time.
01:34:17
Were
01:34:19
you paying attention?
01:34:21
>> I have question. So, when Apple were
01:34:24
demonstrating the features of the new
01:34:26
Siri AI in Vision Pro, they gave us a
01:34:29
demonstration of a user looking at a
01:34:31
backpack they were thinking about buying
01:34:33
for a trip. And they asked, "Does this
01:34:35
backpack fit on my flight? Where was
01:34:38
that flight going?"
01:34:40
>> Damn, that's so
01:34:41
>> Is it bad that I remember the website
01:34:43
they were using for the everything else
01:34:44
about it? I remember what the back
01:34:45
looked like.
01:34:46
>> I remember the boots and they said, "Do
01:34:48
the boots fit?" And it said, "Yes, but
01:34:49
just barely." I remember everything
01:34:50
else.
01:34:50
>> Those are the boots they had in real
01:34:52
life, right? They're like, "Would they
01:34:53
fit in the back?"
01:34:54
>> Real boots and they asked if it would
01:34:55
fit in the backpack that was on the
01:34:56
website.
01:34:57
>> Totally realistic uh scenario.
01:34:59
>> But where is the flight going?
01:35:01
>> I have a random thought, but it's not
01:35:04
probably right.
01:35:06
>> Yeah, we'll figure it out.
01:35:07
>> They'll fit, but it'll be tight.
01:35:09
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01:37:16
>> Welcome back. This is a dubdub episode,
01:37:17
but we're going to talk about nostalgia
01:37:19
being run. Really quick, uh, gaming.
01:37:21
>> I just want to say it.
01:37:22
>> The Xbox 25th anniversary Xbox Series
01:37:25
X25
01:37:27
>> in transparent green.
01:37:28
>> Is that the name of the thing?
01:37:31
>> They're calling it the Xbox Series X25.
01:37:34
>> So, like,
01:37:34
>> but the way I I rewrote this like three
01:37:36
times cuz I was so confused. The ROG
01:37:38
Ally
01:37:39
>> said Xbox like four times and then the
01:37:41
Xbox
01:37:43
Series X.
01:37:44
>> She green. She transparent. She pretty.
01:37:47
>> Feel like she's more translucent.
01:37:49
>> This is nostalgia.
01:37:50
>> This is nostalgia. There was like an
01:37:52
original Xbox Limited.
01:37:54
>> Gotcha.
01:37:55
>> I really thought it was like a Master
01:37:56
Chief Edition, but I might be wrong
01:37:58
about that. But
01:37:59
>> yeah,
01:38:00
>> that was a different one. Yeah,
01:38:02
>> it's fine.
01:38:02
>> It's so good though.
01:38:03
>> It looks nice.
01:38:04
>> It's look nice if I play it.
01:38:06
>> As someone who has never seen the actual
01:38:08
old Xbox that it's based on, this looks
01:38:11
cool.
01:38:12
>> What?
01:38:12
>> I like it.
01:38:13
>> Yeah. Never seen
01:38:15
>> I've seen old Xboxes, but they're all
01:38:16
black.
01:38:17
>> He's never seen the clear though. I've
01:38:19
never seen whatever this is referencing,
01:38:21
but it looks it looks cool. Okay, I have
01:38:24
a quick rant about Ocarina of Time.
01:38:26
>> And then I have a quick rant, but go on.
01:38:28
>> Why didn't I bring my Ocarina?
01:38:29
>> I didn't put this in a doc, so it'll be
01:38:30
a surprise for everyone.
01:38:31
>> I should have brought my ocarina and
01:38:32
just like plays.
01:38:34
>> I was debating asking you to bring it
01:38:35
in, but I
01:38:35
>> Well, I flew directly from dubdub, but
01:38:37
I'll play it next next week.
01:38:38
>> You didn't bring it to dubdub with you?
01:38:40
>> Yeah, that'd be cool. I'll play it next
01:38:41
week. Nintendo announced a remaster
01:38:44
again. They've remastered Star Fox and
01:38:47
Ocarine of Time like four times each.
01:38:49
>> Oh god. Um, Ocarine of Time and Star.
01:38:53
Okay,
01:38:54
>> there's a scene in the trailer. They
01:38:56
just showed a trailer and they only
01:38:57
showed what Link looked like and then
01:38:59
like what the intro looked like, but
01:39:00
they didn't show any gameplay.
01:39:03
But Nintendo now is going for hyper
01:39:05
realism, which is just the thing that
01:39:07
Nintendo never did.
01:39:08
>> Yeah. And it's in my opinion a horrible
01:39:12
idea because the amount of Zelda games
01:39:14
that they've made and they just do
01:39:16
different art styles and it's always
01:39:17
really interesting and cool when they
01:39:19
switch up the art style. But now
01:39:21
>> I don't know if you guys have ever seen
01:39:22
those like Mario but if it was made in
01:39:25
Unreal Engine like fan videos
01:39:27
>> and they look ridiculous. Like they've
01:39:29
been making those for the last like 10
01:39:31
years and they look like they can look
01:39:33
kind of cool but you can't have hyper
01:39:37
realism and timelessness at the same
01:39:39
time because those graphics will always
01:39:41
become outdated. Whereas if you go with
01:39:43
cartoon and cell-shaded and something
01:39:45
that never was made to look realistic
01:39:48
anyway it is timeless like like Wind
01:39:51
Waker a Zelda Wind Waker always going to
01:39:53
look amazing cuz it's cell-shaded.
01:39:55
Anyway, Awai is my favorite game of all
01:39:57
time and I just really feel like they
01:39:58
massacred my boy.
01:39:59
>> This this video of him in like pretty
01:40:01
realistic kind of just looks like Do you
01:40:03
remember Polly Pockets?
01:40:05
>> Whoa. The Linked
01:40:08
Pocket in this. It's like
01:40:10
>> Yeah.
01:40:10
>> I'll reserve judgment for when we
01:40:12
actually see gameplay, but Link
01:40:16
>> It is weird to just show.
01:40:18
>> Guys, you can you can vote with your
01:40:19
wallets. You don't have to keep buying
01:40:20
the same game over and over.
01:40:21
>> Disagree. You don't have to for backyard
01:40:24
baseball. No, no,
01:40:26
>> no. You if you look, Backyard Baseball
01:40:29
is going to be the same game as well,
01:40:30
but it'll have online multiplayer. So,
01:40:32
that's new. If the only thing that's new
01:40:34
is cuz you said remastered. Yeah.
01:40:35
>> Is it the same game just higher quality?
01:40:37
>> But it's not like for the 3DS, they
01:40:40
basically just put like a like a like a
01:40:43
sharpening shader on the original game.
01:40:45
>> Yeah.
01:40:46
>> But for this one, they're like making
01:40:48
all new assets. I mean, it's it's
01:40:50
supposed to be
01:40:50
>> When you say new, you mean old but
01:40:52
better looking
01:40:54
>> but redone. Like
01:40:55
>> the same characters but drawn again
01:40:58
>> differently.
01:40:58
>> Yeah, this is my point.
01:40:59
>> Yeah,
01:41:00
>> just don't buy it.
01:41:02
>> I pro I won't I probably won't. I don't
01:41:05
buy all these games. I didn't buy Star.
01:41:06
I guess my angle is if you do buy it, if
01:41:09
you do buy it, this will be confirmation
01:41:10
for the companies that it works and
01:41:12
they'll do it again.
01:41:13
>> Yeah, I know what you're saying.
01:41:14
>> It clearly works. They keep doing it.
01:41:16
>> Hollywood,
01:41:16
>> they're going to keep doing it. Anyway,
01:41:18
I just want to say they massacred my boy
01:41:20
and Nintendo needs to stop doing hyper
01:41:21
realism.
01:41:22
>> And speaking of Nintendo and hyper
01:41:24
realism, they somehow got the trailer
01:41:25
for Kingdom Hearts 4. And I am so
01:41:28
excited for this for this game to come
01:41:30
out. And there was already a trailer 3
01:41:32
years ago and then Radio Silence and now
01:41:34
there's another trailer. So, we'll see
01:41:36
how long it takes until the next
01:41:37
trailer.
01:41:38
>> I've always been surprised that they can
01:41:39
just be like Soulcalibur but Mickey
01:41:41
Mouse and that's popular. But
01:41:43
>> Exactly. And Donald Duck. Don't forget
01:41:44
Donald.
01:41:44
>> Go off King and Goofy.
01:41:46
>> Love it. Sora was in Smash, so
01:41:49
>> that's true.
01:41:49
>> Yeah,
01:41:50
>> maybe Lane and I can play this.
01:41:53
>> Maybe
01:41:53
>> Kingdom Hearts, we should play the first
01:41:55
13 games so you really understand.
01:41:57
>> 13. You just said four.
01:41:58
>> Well, they have like 2.5 and then 2.
01:42:02
You have remastered last season.
01:42:04
>> They have multiple remasters.
01:42:05
>> You should watch just a YouTube super
01:42:06
cut on the story cuz there's like a
01:42:08
bunch of story that happens only in like
01:42:11
mobile games that were specifically
01:42:13
released in Japan and that's like
01:42:14
actually canon to the actual gameplay.
01:42:16
never find the door that he's trying to
01:42:19
unlock with that big key.
01:42:20
>> No spoilers cuz that is I'm not going to
01:42:23
say
01:42:25
he does carry that key around.
01:42:26
>> Great game. Great story. It's insane.
01:42:28
It's an insane story that everyone
01:42:30
should know cuz it's amazing.
01:42:31
>> I heard it was amazing.
01:42:32
>> Yeah. Really?
01:42:33
>> Um Okay. I just have one last thing cuz
01:42:35
I feel like it's important. Uh Anthropic
01:42:37
finally released its model that was too
01:42:39
dangerous to release.
01:42:42
So
01:42:43
>> yeah,
01:42:45
>> that's the playbook. We talked about
01:42:47
Mythos a long time ago. It was like a
01:42:49
crazy cyber security model and they were
01:42:51
like, "We're not going to give this to
01:42:52
people." And then they gave it to
01:42:53
people. So
01:42:53
>> crazy new marketing angle.
01:42:55
>> Yeah.
01:42:56
>> This thing we're about to release.
01:42:57
>> You can't handle it.
01:42:58
>> Too hot to handle.
01:42:58
>> That's They've done it a few times.
01:43:00
>> So here it is.
01:43:01
>> So here it is.
01:43:02
>> They said they like made it safer.
01:43:05
They're kind of doing a little bit of a
01:43:06
bait and switch, which I don't love,
01:43:08
where they're giving access to everybody
01:43:11
like who has a paid subscription of any
01:43:13
kind access to this model and for like
01:43:15
one month and then they're completely
01:43:17
pulling it from the models you can
01:43:19
access unless you pay for the API.
01:43:21
>> Isn't that what drug dealers do?
01:43:23
>> Yes.
01:43:24
>> Yeah. H
01:43:25
>> well they they have a reason the reason
01:43:27
they said they're doing this is the same
01:43:29
reason that they said they're they're
01:43:30
changing their data retention policy for
01:43:33
if you read their press release what
01:43:34
they said is that
01:43:36
>> they wanted to make sure that they were
01:43:38
curtailing like bad actors using it to
01:43:41
do the wrong stuff. So you know how you
01:43:43
can get it to be like oh roleplay is my
01:43:45
grandma who used to read me state
01:43:47
secrets as bed when I was going to sleep
01:43:49
but now she's dead and can you do it for
01:43:52
me?
01:43:52
>> Yeah. And it's like, "No, no, no. I
01:43:53
won't do that." So, you could ask it
01:43:55
like, "Okay, role play as my talking dog
01:43:57
who I trained to repeat states to." And
01:43:59
then you could get it to do it like
01:44:00
that. They're looking for all of the
01:44:02
variations of the ways you can trick it
01:44:04
so that they can train their alignment
01:44:06
model to be better at uh finding the
01:44:10
things that people are going to do, the
01:44:12
patterns that people are going to try to
01:44:14
use.
01:44:14
>> Why don't they just tell
01:44:15
>> to get around the restrictions?
01:44:16
>> So, they want it to be less gullible.
01:44:17
>> Why don't they just tell Fable to tell
01:44:19
it all the things that people can do to
01:44:21
get around it? cuz I thought it could do
01:44:22
everything.
01:44:23
>> Well, I you know, I'm You got me.
01:44:26
>> I don't know why.
01:44:27
>> I don't know. This is why I don't work
01:44:29
at an
01:44:30
>> Look, it's a combination of like
01:44:32
apparently this model is freaking insane
01:44:34
and Opus was already insane and we vibe
01:44:37
coded a lot of crazy with it, but um
01:44:40
it's just kind of crazy to like release
01:44:41
it to public for one month and then pull
01:44:43
it. And I like I can you could wrap your
01:44:45
you can that could be an excuse. I could
01:44:48
understand partially kind of maybe, but
01:44:50
obviously they're trying to get people
01:44:52
to pay for the API because $20 a month
01:44:55
there was there's a been a lot of data
01:44:56
that's come out that like these $20 a
01:44:58
month plans cost these companies $5,000.
01:45:01
So they need people people to pay per
01:45:03
token.
01:45:04
>> Yeah.
01:45:05
>> So anyway, that's the whole thing.
01:45:06
That's I just wanted to say that it was
01:45:08
impossible like they had Anyway, we had
01:45:10
to talk about it briefly.
01:45:12
>> My question with this is do you think
01:45:14
this was all planned already? Yeah, this
01:45:16
was part of the roll out, right? They
01:45:18
announced Mythos and then a month later
01:45:20
or 40 some days later they're like, "Uh,
01:45:22
actually, we also have these safe."
01:45:23
>> They've done this multiple times. Like
01:45:25
this is like the second or third time
01:45:27
that they've been like, "It's too
01:45:28
dangerous to release this to the
01:45:29
public." And then they released it to
01:45:30
the public.
01:45:31
>> Money, please.
01:45:32
>> Money, please. Yeah, cuz the economy is
01:45:34
going to crash pretty soon after the
01:45:35
SpaceX IPO and the Anthropic IPO and the
01:45:37
Open AAI IPO.
01:45:38
>> I need the money now. Uh, by the way, on
01:45:39
the same day as Dubdub, uh, OpenAI filed
01:45:42
to confidentially, um, IPO, which it was
01:45:45
not that confidential.
01:45:47
>> Do these companies know what
01:45:47
confidential means? Cuz we keep hearing
01:45:49
about it.
01:45:50
>> It's not going to be confidential if you
01:45:51
just file, right? That's like,
01:45:53
>> yeah, but then they say that they did
01:45:54
it.
01:45:54
>> Yeah.
01:45:55
>> Yeah. I don't know.
01:45:56
>> Is it confidentially or confidently?
01:46:00
>> Both. I also think it's cool that Apple
01:46:03
and Chat JBT are breaking up a little
01:46:05
bit. They haven't officially broken up.
01:46:08
Yeah, that that whole thing where you
01:46:10
could like you'd ask Siri a question. It
01:46:12
would go, "You mind if I ask Jet CPT
01:46:14
this question,
01:46:15
>> it doesn't necessarily need to do that
01:46:16
anymore."
01:46:17
>> Yeah. So, that's nice.
01:46:18
>> So, that's cool.
01:46:19
>> Yeah.
01:46:19
>> Nice.
01:46:20
>> Yeah.
01:46:20
>> All right. I know that we're running low
01:46:22
on time.
01:46:23
>> It's time
01:46:26
for trivia.
01:46:29
>> That was nice.
01:46:30
>> Trivia, dude.
01:46:31
>> You have a marker?
01:46:32
>> So, I do.
01:46:33
>> Points. Marquez 26. Andrew 25, David 31.
01:46:40
Hey, first question. In the Siri AI
01:46:44
section, a notification popped up that
01:46:46
said the Golden Gate Bridge is painted
01:46:48
in a color officially known as what?
01:46:52
Sure did. Tim Cook, I can't believe I
01:46:55
remember this. This is one of those.
01:46:57
>> If you get this right, I will be
01:46:58
shocked.
01:46:59
>> This is maybe the most specific thing
01:47:00
you could ask me that I remember reading
01:47:02
the notification and I'm pretty sure I
01:47:04
have it.
01:47:05
>> That's crazy. Okay. Yeah, we'll see.
01:47:06
>> Reading the notification notification on
01:47:09
the screen.
01:47:10
>> Well, cuz the other question is about a
01:47:11
not Oh, no. It's about a destination.
01:47:13
>> Yeah, just kidding.
01:47:14
>> Is it journey or the destination?
01:47:18
>> Flip them and read. What do you got?
01:47:20
>> Oh, I think you're right, Marquez.
01:47:23
>> I remember it saying it was painted in
01:47:25
this international orange, which is like
01:47:28
this universal color of like high
01:47:30
contrast or whatever that they used for
01:47:32
the the button on your Apple Watch
01:47:34
Ultra. Oh,
01:47:37
>> correct. The Apple Watch Ultra button is
01:47:39
the same color as the Golden Gate
01:47:40
Bridge.
01:47:40
>> It didn't age the same, but that's true.
01:47:42
It didn't
01:47:43
>> mean that hasn't been around as long as
01:47:44
the Golden Gate Bridge.
01:47:45
>> Exactly.
01:47:47
>> I knew it was orange, so I wrote Nixon
01:47:49
5.
01:47:50
>> Nice.
01:47:51
>> Correct. You got It'll be really funny
01:47:52
because there's a game tonight and we
01:47:54
don't know.
01:47:55
>> Give him the uh I won't give him the
01:47:57
point. All right, David. What' you say?
01:47:58
>> I wrote California Poppy.
01:48:00
>> Did you say correct?
01:48:01
>> Good guess. Yeah, I was saying correct.
01:48:03
I was going to give you the point, but
01:48:03
then David Yel
01:48:04
>> cuz he also agrees that it's Nixon 5.
01:48:06
>> It's Nixon 4.
01:48:06
>> Oh, okay.
01:48:07
>> They already swept. We just live in an
01:48:09
alternate reality.
01:48:10
>> Okay.
01:48:11
>> All right. Next question.
01:48:13
>> Nixon 4. Where is the flight to? Okay.
01:48:15
Somewhere you go hiking, I guess.
01:48:17
>> Wait, what was the question again?
01:48:18
>> Oh,
01:48:19
>> when demonstrating new Siri AI
01:48:21
functionality in Vision Pro, they showed
01:48:24
us a person going on a trip somewhere
01:48:27
and checking if their backpack would fit
01:48:30
in the overhead bin of a flight.
01:48:32
Where were they going?
01:48:34
>> Certino.
01:48:37
Little Bear.
01:48:39
Big Bear Lake. Big Bear Lake, which we
01:48:42
were wrong about.
01:48:45
>> I'm okay with Golden Gate. I like
01:48:47
>> New Jersey.
01:48:48
>> Golden Gate.
01:48:48
>> This is tough for me because I was just
01:48:50
in an airport where I was reading lots
01:48:52
of abbreviations for different airports
01:48:54
and that's in my head right now and I
01:48:56
can't think of anything else.
01:48:58
>> Atlanta. I learned a lot of new airport
01:49:00
city codes yesterday.
01:49:01
>> Name all of them.
01:49:03
>> Oh, you like airports.
01:49:04
>> Name all.
01:49:05
>> All right, what do we got? I I said
01:49:08
Patagonia
01:49:09
>> for fun. I wish
01:49:10
>> I said Rocky Mountain.
01:49:13
>> I said Norway.
01:49:15
>> It was international, right?
01:49:16
>> It was international. They were going to
01:49:20
Iceland.
01:49:21
>> Oh, right. I did know that. I remember
01:49:23
that. Cuz
01:49:25
>> that's that's the mission pro
01:49:26
environment. Wait, why would he have to
01:49:28
go on that trip if he just has the
01:49:29
Vision Pro environment?
01:49:30
>> He wants to wear his boots in Vision
01:49:32
Pro.
01:49:33
>> He can already do that. He wears boots
01:49:35
and just use the Vision Pro and being in
01:49:37
the environment.
01:49:37
>> It was an REI backpack oper was it
01:49:40
losportiva boots? Like
01:49:42
>> I'm remembering all the stuff. The first
01:49:44
iteration of this question was going to
01:49:46
ask what the backpack was, but we
01:49:48
thought it was more fun to ask where the
01:49:50
phone got that. Well, that is it for
01:49:53
this week's recap episode of Waveform.
01:49:57
Obviously, a lot more to come. We'll be
01:49:58
testing these things. Let us know again,
01:50:00
like I said, in the comments if there's
01:50:01
certain things you want us to test for
01:50:03
future episodes and for the full
01:50:04
reviews. Uh, but yeah, like I said,
01:50:07
thanks for subbing. Catch you guys in
01:50:09
our next regularly scheduled
01:50:10
programming. And since you made it this
01:50:12
far, Kool-Aid.
01:50:16
See you in the next one. Peace.
01:50:17
>> Where do you come up with these?
01:50:19
>> Two minutes after the episode goes live,
01:50:21
it's going to be all Kool-Aid somehow.
01:50:23
>> Wait for Miss Bruce by Adam Molina. And
01:50:26
have I ever said your last name out
01:50:28
loud? Rufus.
01:50:30
>> You have You are You will now say it.
01:50:32
>> Do you want to tell me or do you want me
01:50:33
to try?
01:50:34
>> No. No. Try it.
01:50:34
>> I try.
01:50:35
>> Okay. But I'm going and we're we ain't
01:50:36
coming back.
01:50:38
All right.
01:50:40
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01:50:41
Rufus Mopar.
01:50:44
>> Nope.
01:50:46
>> We coming back. I'm just kidding.
01:50:48
>> Moleh.
01:50:49
>> Molehouts. Okay.
01:50:54
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Rufus Molhout. We are partnered with Vox
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01:51:01
>> Bingo.
01:51:01
>> It's the waveform bro.
01:51:04
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01:51:17
Look at them. They're just like, "Yes,
01:51:19
yes, yes. Lie to me, daddy.
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>> Did I put enough gel in my hair this
01:51:22
time?
