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Okay, David, do you do not need your laptop? Put that away. >> I don't have my laptop.
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>> No, >> but how am I supposed to But what if What? But news. >> What if the Fedverse needs
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>> What if the fediverse needs? >> Yo, what is up people of the internet?
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Welcome back to another episode of the Waveform Podcast. We're your hosts. I'm
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Marquez. >> I'm David. And I'm David. Adam wrote that into the script, not me. Nice.
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So, we're back with uh some Apple news, some Google news, and a game that Adam
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wants to play with all of us. So, this will be a fun variety pack episode. >> Yes.
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>> But first, >> yes, Marquez, you changed your whole desk setup. >> I did.
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>> We have to No, we have to understand why. >> All right. We were trying to unpack this
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a little bit. >> It was sort of a a minor thing, but it ended up taking my whole day setting all
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this stuff up yesterday. So, >> for those who are wondering, yeah, I uh I mentioned in the setup video of my
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desk that I would be getting rid of the Mac Pro soon. Apple literally discontinued the Mac Pro slightly after
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that video >> officially. >> Yeah. So, they gave up on the Mac Pro. So, so did I.
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>> Nice. Now, my question is, do I want to become the laptop person or still have a
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separate distinct desktop and laptop? Which kind of feels to me like, do I want to have my phone for every photo or
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do I want to carry a separate camera? >> Yeah, >> obviously the separate camera is going
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to be better, but it would be convenient if I could take everything on my phone.
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This is the laptop dilemma. I think that a 16inch M5 Max MacBook Pro, >> yeah,
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>> is powerful enough to do everything that I want out of a computer, including
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editing, including all the plugins, including everything that we do that takes a lot of render,
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>> but it's a 16-inch MacBook Pro. It's a big >> heavier >> big boy.
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>> Yeah. But the 14-in is clearly superior. I love the form factor. I would much
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rather carry the 14. And I know this because I've gone from a 16 to a 14 and
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I try to go back and back and forth and I just I'm >> But do you ever edit on just the 14
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without plugging into a display? >> I think I've done it like three only
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once with a main video and like three or four times with vertical video shorts. >> Yeah, it's annoying, right?
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>> It's slightly annoying, but it's not deal breaking annoying. What turned out
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to be more interesting is there's like a 15 to 20% difference in long-term thermal performance. With the bigger
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chassis of the 16, you're actually getting like the max that the chip has to offer.
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>> Yeah, true. >> The M5 Max and 14-inch chassis is throttling a little earlier. Isn't
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giving me quite the same performance. >> Is it that big of a deal? Probably not.
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But >> I'm curious if I can use the 16-inch M5 Max MacBook Pro. >> 16 inch.
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>> Yes. Okay. as my everything computer. >> Oh. >> Uh, it will be the desktop plugged into
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those monitors, plugged into a whole bunch of stuff, a dock, a dock, a whole bunch of, you know, we can talk about
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that. >> Yeah. >> And then when I need to go home or bring it somewhere, I can take it somewhere. I
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can take the edit somewhere. I can take whatever I'm doing and I don't have to
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have multiple computers. >> That's what's great about it. Everything's on one little PC.
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>> So, the obvious other version of this is Mac Studio. I've said Studio is the new
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pro. I think if this project, if this experiment fails me, >> Yeah. What I'll end up doing is I'll end
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up going back to having a Mac Studio on my desk. Whenever that M5 Ultra comes out or M6 Ultra, whatever it is, that
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will be the desktop. And a 14-inch MacBook Pro will continue to be my laptop. >> Yeah. Okay. How long are you going to
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test this experiment for? >> So, I have the review unit M5 Max 16-inch MacBook Pro. It's maxed out. Has
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128 gigs of of unified memory. I'm I'm using this until the new MacBook Pro,
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which we all know is going to get the redesign, probably a 2 nmter node and an OLED touchcreen and all this stuff.
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Whenever that new one comes out. >> Yeah. >> And when that new one comes out, that's
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when I'll make my decision. Am I going to buy that laptop and continue the laptop life or am I going to become Mac
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Studio and MacBook Pro? >> If you get enough storage, I really It's so great to just have everything on one
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computer. Yeah, as of right now, it's like day one and a half. You know, it's
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the second day of this experiment. I am using a Now, there's a couple things I
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needed to make this setup work. So, I have two Studio Display XDRs on my desk. Okay,
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>> they look fantastic. They are smaller than this the Pro displays, but they're
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120 Hz. They're brighter. They look better. Yeah, >> I'm willing to accept that.
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>> And I daisy chain them to each other, so it's great. I still have Thunderbolt
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ports to spare. >> And I have this TS5 Plus dock. Who makes this dock? TS5 Plus doc calig
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>> Cal Digit baby. >> Yeah, this Cal Digit Thunderbolt 5 doc uh which lets me plug all of my
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accessories on my desk into the MacBook Pro with one cable. >> That's nice.
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>> So the the dream Yeah, the dream is to have the one cable setup. I walk in with
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the laptop, put it down, plug in one cable, everything lights up. The mouse, the mechanical keyboard, the studio
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monitors, the DAC, both displays, my storage, everything is connected. >> Crazy. Yeah. Unfortunately, uh oh,
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>> the Universal Audio DAC is really stubborn and refuses to work with the
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dock even though it's plugged into Thunderbolt in the dock. I've tried it
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with the dock. I've tried it also with the display, plugging it straight into
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the display. It doesn't like it. It just >> they've Did they even test this?
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>> It loves being plugged into the laptop directly. Damn. >> So, it's a twocable setup for now.
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>> Dak don't like the dock. >> Yeah, Dak don't like the dock. Damn.
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Marquez, let me sit at your desk after we record and troubleshoot this for you because
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>> please I it took me four hours to figure out >> that he didn't like anything other than
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direct. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Really annoying. >> I have my own version of exactly what
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you're going through right now. >> And this is like round three of me wanting to talk about the iPhone air.
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>> Yeah. Yeah. >> So, run it back, baby. >> I saw your tweets. You're
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>> You did. >> You were talking about how you tried to go back to the Pro.
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>> I tried. I tried. Oh my god. So, I want to know what your like. Are you back on
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a Pro or you still on the air? You're still on the air. >> Still on the air.
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>> Constantly frustrated by the camera. >> I mean, Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And we'll talk
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about that even more later. But >> you're probably, you know, a little more
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evened out because you're using a second Android phone all the time that's much
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thicker. So, you're kind of used to it. >> Yeah. >> But I don't know what I was smoking when
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I was like okay with phones being as thick as they were. You know, >> that bad.
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>> This not that bad. >> It used Okay. I used to have the opposite take.
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>> Okay. Okay. This this phone radicalized me. >> So what's your now your fully thin phone
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pled? >> Kind of. >> I kind of refused. You can only use this or the S25 Edge. Everything else will be
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devastating. >> Well, I think there'll be more options later. >> Yeah. And when the iPhone Fold comes
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out, I think I think that will because it's still thin when you open it. I think it'll be an okay compromise. It'll
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be shorter. We'll see. >> But I don't know. I I tried to go back to the Pro because I'm going to Europe
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today for two weeks and it's it's so heavy and thick. >> I I literally felt like I was using a
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Motorola track phone. >> That's what it felt like. >> I get it. Like I especially when you use
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them back to back. >> Yeah. >> You go from this super thin especially
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the lightweight too. That's the thing people don't realize when they see it on
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video. It looks oh it's just a little bit thicker whatever. But holding it it's so much lighter. Uh-huh.
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>> Uh, and the two things that are frustrating about the Air are the camera
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and the battery. As far as I mean, everything else is perfectly fine as far as I can tell.
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>> Yeah. >> So, I have had a couple moments where I wish I had an ultra wide and I literally
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had to back up. Like, I shot the desk photo the other day and I was just backing up away from my desk and that
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was annoying. >> But, I can kind of make that work. >> Yeah. >> But the battery.
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>> Yeah. >> How are you dealing with the iPhone? >> It's not as bad as
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>> I know how he's doing. He grabbed a rich power bank for his trip today.
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>> I did. Yeah. Yeah, I mean it's not it's not awful. I will say like I've been
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home for a while for longer than I'm usually home for. Like I've been home
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for like a month >> and I am one of those people that just constantly has all of their gadgets
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plugged in at every moment that I'm not using them. You know, I have a lot of
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battery anxiety all of the time. >> That's okay with the Air then? >> Yeah. So, it's okay with the Air. So,
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I'm not completely sure how it's going to fair, you know, on a on a travel. I'm
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sure >> what >> I know exactly how this is going to go. >> Oh well, that's why I have battery
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banks, I guess. I don't know. I tried to switch back to the Pro and I was just
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like, I can't do this. This is so annoying. >> Wow. >> It totally wrapped up.
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>> Even as your only phone. >> Uh yeah, however. Okay. However, just
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like you, the main things that I miss are the camera. Um which by the way, I was wrong. I thought I you I thought I
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never used the wideangle camera. I the ultra ride I apparently do not for photography but for like
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>> functionality >> functionality. Yeah. Like like I uh I remodeled my kitchen this weekend.
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>> Wow. >> Yeah, I know. It's crazy. I had to put a lot of work in
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>> and I was trying to take a photo to like show my friends that I remodeled it.
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>> You can't back it up. >> I literally can't I hit the wall. You
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can't show the whole kitchen in one picture, which is annoying. So, I had to
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take a video and then it was still Yeah, it was bad. It was annoying. And then my
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my 3D printed camera that I use all the time uses the ultrawide camera to like crop in,
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>> right? >> And I can't do that either. So if they release an air with a wide with the
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ultrawide camera, I'll be happy. The other thing I found a solution to the no
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telephoto thing. >> Okay. >> Okay. So, there's there's this company
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that sent me this camera attachment thing like a few months ago called Kyra camera that it's like you mag safe your
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camera your phone to it and it's just a sensor with a um I I wish I had it with
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me. It's in my backpack. It's just a sensor with a micro four thirds lens on
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it >> and your phone slaps onto it and then your phone becomes the interface for it
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and it directly like it uses Wi-Fi direct. The images go straight to your phone. You can shoot raw. You can shoot
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video. >> Is it a micro four/ thirds sensor? >> It's a micro four third sensor.
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>> That's nice. >> And uh you can put micro and then you put micro four/ thirds lenses on it. And
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because it's micro four/ third sensor like it the crop factor is pretty high.
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So even if you're using like I'm using a 25 mm Leica lens and it's like a it's
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like a 50 or something. Yeah, like a 50. >> That sounds sick. >> It's dope.
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>> What's it called? >> It's called Kyra camera. It's really
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cool. >> All right. So then what are you using as a lens if this is like a lens? Hey.
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Yeah, I have a I have a 25 mil lens. It's like a 50. So, I just carry that with me. It's not very big. It's like
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it's like this thick. >> Okay. >> And my phone your phone just like mag
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safes straight to it. And so, I'll just have that in my bag with me. And in the
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cases where I need to do telephoto, I just slap it on. You can shoot raw. >> Okay. Yeah.
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>> Yeah. It's it'll it'll work. I know. I understand what you're saying. It's like
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if I really want to zoom and take a photo like that, then I have this kit. >> Yeah.
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>> Yes. >> Yeah. And that was my main concern because I because I use this on the last
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trip that I did too and not having a telephoto to shoot raw because I when I'm traveling I do a lot of uh like
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halli or or moment camera too with raw photos and with this it kind of sucks. So
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>> this is very anti- adding things to your phone for cameras. >> Yeah. Well,
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>> not entirely, but I do have I think there's a point of diminishing return
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and it's pretty quick. >> Yeah. Yeah. Allison Johnson put a really interesting piece out on the Verge a
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couple weeks ago about the iPhone Air that says like it it was called like I finally understand the iPhone Air and it
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was about how it's a modular phone. How like you basically for the daily use you
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just use it and it's thin and it's great and then you basically switch it out for
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whatever parts you need whether it's the battery bank or like camera attachment.
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>> Motorola was a decade too early. >> Uh yeah, of course. Yeah, >> the Z Yeah, the Z was insane. Yeah,
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>> Mags Safe is such a better attachment mechanism because like things like the
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Moto Z that had the dedicated modules. >> Yeah, it's like they promised to support
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it for like 2 years and then they did and then all of those attachments were useless after that.
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>> That was brutal. >> Or as long as Apple does not get rid of Mags Safe, which I saw some rumors that
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were like they're thinking of killing it and I was like that's the stupidest
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thing ever and they will never do that. >> Yeah. >> Uh as long as Mag Safe exists, all these
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attachments still work. >> Yeah. Sorry, iPhone 16. So, my point is I am totally radicalized. I don't I
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didn't think this would ever happen to me. >> Mhm. >> I mean, this is kind of what we said
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when it came out. Like, this is the right form factor. It's just too many compromises.
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>> Yeah. >> Yeah. This phone would be great if it had a silicon carbon battery because it
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would probably be totally fine. I have a travel story for you in a second. >> Okay.
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>> But, and then Yeah. And add an extra camera and it's right there. It's back
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to being very usable and justifiable. >> Okay. What's your story? Uh, I recently
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went to, how much can I say? I went to a foreign country in Europe somewhere. >> Okay.
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>> For a video shoot that you guys will learn about later. Yeah. >> And I forgot to bring a power adapter.
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>> I totally forgot to bring >> every time Adam and I were just talking
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about that. >> I brought everything else I need. I had the MacBook Pro. >> I had the backpack full of stuff. I had
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uh my chargers all ready to go. And I just forgot my like adapter for their plugs.
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>> Yeah. >> So, it's a three-day trip. And I realized this as I land and I'm like,
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you know what? I don't I'm not going to buy an adapter. I'm going to survive
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with the batteries that I have. >> Crazy person, >> which is a MacBook Pro, an Oppo Find X9
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Ultra, a OnePlus 15, and an iPhone Air >> and an iPad Pro. And I was I got off the
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plane not knowing, so I wasn't really conserving battery while I was watching
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stuff on the iPad. So, the iPad was like kind of cooked. >> So, I got there and it was like, I need
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to use my MacBook Pro as a power bank to charge my phones overnight every single
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day. >> Beautiful. After the first night of charging up the um the OnePlus to full,
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for some reason, the MacBook Pro is basically dead. >> So now I have two days and two phones.
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>> And uh yeah, the the iPhone Air did not last. It lasted like I think I got to
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low power mode at 20% like by the end of the first day and I was still at like 60
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something with the OPPO and the OnePlus. So having them side by side and actively
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trying to conserve battery on both and just watching the air just slowly go away, it was really it was pretty eye
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opening. Yeah. >> So I Yeah. >> What I usually do when I forget a power
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bank, which is like or forget a travel adapter, which is a lot, is a lot of the like hostels and stuff that I stay in,
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they'll have like one USBA or USBC port like in your bed area. >> Oh, I was looking Yeah, I was looking
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for that port. I always I turn my MacBook Pro into like a multi-port daisy chain battery battery pack where I plug
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in the MacBook and then everything else is just like octopused off of it. >> Um, which is probably what's going to
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happen in when I go to Europe today. So, yeah. Anyway, uh, yeah, I'm radicalized.
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So, I really hope that they don't kill this line like they did with the Mini.
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The Mini I loved immediately. >> Mhm. >> And the the problem with the Air is that
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it's a good phone. You just have to spend like three weeks with it to understand that,
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>> which is a which is a problem for Apple. >> Well, Apple always does two of
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everything at least typically with the phones. So, we're going to have we're
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pretty sure we're going to have an Air2. >> Yeah. >> Then we'll see how that goes.
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>> Yeah. All right. Did they even test this? We do this every week. Did you
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guys bring uh Did you bring some? >> I have one. >> Let's go, Ellis.
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>> But first, actually two. But first, cuz the first but first is >> video viewers already know where this is
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going. >> No, because I uh unfortunately embarrassed myself on the last episode
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because my last did they even test this was about how to do the find on page on Safari.
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>> Yeah, >> got a lot of comments. >> Got a lot of comments. Uh there's a much
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easier way >> to find on page that I did not know about. Um, so I would just like to thank
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>> Waveform viewers for being dedicated Safari users. >> Thank you, Waveform audience. Uh, okay.
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Now, Adam, would you mind uh getting the lights, please? >> I feel like I need to narrate this for
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audio listeners. >> Ellis Ellis is grinning from ear to ear wearing a 76ers shirt and a 76ers hat.
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And you know why I'm grinning ear to ear Marquez? Why is that? Because this weekend,
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the Philadelphia 76ers, for the first time since the 1980s, have defeated the Boston Celtics in an NBA playoff series,
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meaning we are moving on to round two to face our other rivals, the New York Knicker Bachers, in a what will
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hopefully be another sevengame amazing basketball series. Kelly Ubé, thank you for your contributions. Joel Embiid is
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back at healthy. Nothing can go wrong for us. >> Are they really called the
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Nickerbuckers? >> Knock some wood. >> Yeah, Nicks are the nicker buckers.
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>> What does that even mean? Underwear >> something. I've looked it up so many
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times and then just forget every time. Um, >> it commonly refers to 19th century baggy
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kneelength trousers. >> 76ers really close to a meme, >> dude. It's This team is just so much
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fun. It's just so much fun. >> I'm glad you're having fun. Game seven
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sounds stressful, but it sounds like you're having a lot of fun. >> Dude, I have not come closer to my pants
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as an adult than watching that game seven. And just I I love I my my heart pours out for everyone on this team,
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especially Kelly Ubé and Joel Embiid and Tyresese Maxi. And >> yeah, >> you said it was uh the most watched game
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seven in NBA playoff history. That's what we were seeing online. But we were
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also talking about how game seven of the finals that the LeBron Steph Curry finals.
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>> Yeah, that's incredible stat. >> It's just like the six, you know, I keep
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trying to explain this to Alex and Adam, man. It's like the being a Sixers fan is
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not about reing in your endless wins, okay? cuz we don't have any. >> It's about we literally have more than
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you, but it's about reveling in the journey and and the story lines and the personalities and watching Joel Embiid
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grow up before our eyes and overcome so much and watching Kelly Ubé turn into just like a absolute dog in the paint
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and and watching VJ Edgecomb blossom into an eventual all-star and and having already watched Tyrese Maxi blossom into
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an all-star. And so that win, that game meant so much to us. >> I found the NBA.com post.
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>> Yes. >> Most watched first round in 33 years. Most watched first round game seven
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ever. >> Everyone got to watch the Sixers play beautiful Sixers basketball. And um I
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just feel so blessed to be alive right now. >> Oh, and >> I just want to make a quick point that
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he's talking about the game seven because game one versus the Knicks was a not a great game if you're a six.
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>> Oh, yeah. That already happened. Yeah, that was really bad. And so my my did
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they even test this is the Sixers drop coverage because did not work. And those baskets, those Knicks baskets were
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fallen. Um so yeah, did they even test this Sixers defense? But it's all good,
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man, cuz we just did test it. We're coming back tonight. Going to tie up the
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series. >> It's funny. I used to be a Clippers fan back when Chris Paul and Lob City era
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Clippers were like a thing. And this was the feeling that I was hoping I would feel for like five years straight. I
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never never got to take. >> It's okay if it makes you feel any better. This is the feeling I've been
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hoping to feel for 5 years straight and we're finally getting it. >> That's awesome.
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>> All right, so on to tech. >> Yeah. >> My Did they even test this is shocker?
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Google task. >> So >> what >> in Google Task >> when you add things to your upcoming I
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guess reminders. >> Okay, >> there's on web at least I feel like this
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might also be in the app. I'm not sure. Um, but on web it shows like all of your
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lists that you've made. >> Yeah. >> One of them, the very first one, um,
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even though you can move it around, but the the one that's first by default is
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upcoming. >> Okay. >> That one will just show every reminder that you have for the upcoming future
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period. Like you can't sort it for only show me the the upcoming week. You can't
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sort it for only show me the upcoming month. It's just everything. Like right
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now I have a reminder for Friday, December 11th to remind me that there's a parade that always passes by my
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apartment. Uh the Guadalupe parade, I think, but it's at like 10 p.m. every December 11th where a bunch of people go
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down my block with a parade. So like I set a reminder this past year. I don't
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need to see that right now. We are in >> Yeah. >> May. Why is this still showing?
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>> Why do you have that in tasks though? Why isn't that not just in your
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calendar? >> That's a great question. I feel like that's the reason they exist separately.
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Like, >> okay, so let's say I did have a task on Friday 11th though, >> like this Friday.
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>> No, like the 11th of December, like I don't know. I had to resign something on
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December 12th. So, I set a reminder probably >> not a reminder. >> No, that's Yeah, that's a task,
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>> I guess. So, if it's like buy someone's birthday present like a week before that
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>> week before, like I would see that right now, which is like why? >> Yeah, I Yeah, okay, that makes sense.
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Why you're notate? >> Have you tried tick tick? >> I have tried tick tick and I used tick
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tick for a long time. Um I was trying to minimize subscriptions so I stopped using it.
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>> Are they paid? >> The pro version. >> Do you need the pro version for
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>> I don't know. I mean at some point too like is it better to use Google things?
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Like I don't even know if that's the case. Maybe it is better to just pay a
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developer, but >> I'm off of the like it's better to use Google's version because there's so many
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examples of it not being better to use Google's version >> that I have abandoned that philosophy.
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>> That's a very good point. >> Yeah. >> Interesting. >> Okay. In summary, no, they did not test
00:21:41
this. >> Yeah. I have one that I'm Well, it's less of the did they even test this and
00:21:47
more of why does this exist? Does that work? >> Why does Yeah, sure. We'll take it.
00:21:52
>> Okay. So, like a couple weeks ago, X launched X Chat, which is a separate
00:21:57
app, >> which is just Yeah. Which is a separate app on your phone, which is just the DM
00:22:04
portion of X. >> Mhm. >> And it looks exactly like the DM tab in X. And uh it's just the DMs, and then
00:22:12
there's a little button in the top right, and you click it, it just opens X.
00:22:16
>> Yeah. So, >> I don't know why they have two separate apps for this. And I thought Elon was
00:22:20
all obsessed with making the everything app and then he just started separating them and I'm very confused.
00:22:25
>> I think that counts. >> That counts. Did they even think about this? How about that?
00:22:29
>> Was there any like press statement as to like why they did this? >> No.
00:22:35
>> No. just launched >> also like >> casually >> you after ever since the the the blue
00:22:40
check apocalypse on X Twitter on Twitter >> uh messaging people is like almost
00:22:46
impossible because most accounts you can't even DM unless you pay >> is that is that how that works? I don't
00:22:52
>> I forget how the system works but I feel like anytime I want to send a DM it's
00:22:56
like you got money. >> Yeah. >> So now there's an app to tell me like
00:22:59
you got money. >> Yeah. Someone hit me up the other day. They're like, "Hey, your handle is David
00:23:03
Mamela is available because I've been trying to get that since like 2012 or whatever." And uh but you have to have X
00:23:10
premium plus, which costs $40 a month in order to request dead hand like unused handles. And I was like, "Okay, I hate
00:23:18
this." >> Question is encrypted. >> Uh >> is the Twitter DMs regular Twitter DMs
00:23:26
encrypted? >> They're exactly >> It is cuz they're the same.
00:23:28
>> Oh well. And I have no answer. >> I really don't know why this exists.
00:23:32
>> Yeah, I was trying to think of something for >> now. To be fair, to be fair, I have been
00:23:36
wanting an Instagram just DMs app forever, which they were working on for a long time.
00:23:42
>> Separately. >> Separately. >> Isn't that just messages? Like Facebook
00:23:44
messages or Messenger? >> Yeah, but Instagram. They unbundled them, remember?
00:23:49
>> Yeah. So, you mean WhatsApp? >> No, that that No, no. the amount of
00:23:53
people >> double check. >> There's a lot of people that I just DM
00:23:56
with through Instagram >> that I like daily, but I have I have all my social media blocked throughout the
00:24:02
day on my accounts because I don't want to, you know, >> Wait, this is the exact same thing.
00:24:07
>> What? >> That's what Twitter's doing. >> Yeah, >> you want to be able to DM the people you
00:24:10
DM on Instagram without also having to go through the rest of Instagram. >> Correct. I just I barely use Twitter,
00:24:16
which is the reason Twitter >> that's what Twitter did, and I'm happy
00:24:20
about that. I barely I mean if it was Instagram now because I barely use Twitter I would love this for Instagram
00:24:26
but >> it just it's just confusing. Let's move on to some news this week.
00:24:31
>> I just want to say the the selling point and this is according to Elon himself.
00:24:35
>> Okay. >> Um quote Xhat is the only secure encrypted messaging app.
00:24:42
>> So >> that's not true at all. >> What >> it is if you just say it.
00:24:46
>> That's the end of the statement. >> That's not even remotely true. That's
00:24:49
like the first half of a correct statement, but then it's just wrong. >> Has he ever heard of Signal before?
00:24:54
>> All right, let's get to the actual news stories of the week. So, I got to take a
00:24:58
vote from you guys. We got two Apple stories and two Google stories. Which one do you want to get to first?
00:25:04
>> I like the Android ones or the Google ones. >> You like the Google ones?
00:25:07
>> Yeah, they're interesting. >> Let's talk about the Google ones.
00:25:09
>> My curiosity is peaked. >> Yes. So, this is going to be pretty major event. Next week we're getting the
00:25:15
Android show which if you remember is a preio Android experience where they >> Yes. Yes. It's very hype because IO
00:25:25
super real. IO used to include Android but now it's kind of just all Gemini.
00:25:30
>> Yeah. Now it's just for the stockholders and not the people that care about the
00:25:32
products. >> Well, the Gemini features are interesting but yeah but it's going to
00:25:38
be a big one. Uh Samir Sant has tweeted a video with a little teaser for the Android show. His caption he says that
00:25:44
it's the biggest set of Android updates ever. And he he he punctuated it. He
00:25:49
said biggest Android updates ever. Period after every word, which is a big deal. That's a lot of hype. It's a lot
00:25:57
of hype coming from a Googler. Wow. Yeah. And in the little teaser video, the little Andy and Android robot pulls
00:26:02
a light switch and when he turns off the lights, he's glowing with these kind of
00:26:05
like neon blue and pink cotton candy colors. However, and Adam noted this because scaring me.
00:26:12
>> Oh, no. No, no, it's not. Don't. Okay. By the way, >> scaring me.
00:26:15
>> Everyone is quote tweeting this being like, "Apple's doing liquid glass."
00:26:18
>> He replied to it. >> Yeah, I know. >> Yeah, he said we're not.
00:26:21
>> Him and Michelle have had to go like have a campaign going to reply to every
00:26:25
single person being like, "No, we're not." >> Did they even test this?
00:26:29
Did they even think about this? Yeah. Uh, but if you look very closely near the Andy Android robot's neck, it's
00:26:35
clearly got the Pixel Glow like RGB Y bar. If you want to see it clearly, it's now the profile picture of Android
00:26:44
on Twitter. >> Yeah. >> So, yes, >> it's hype. >> Yes,
00:26:48
>> it's glowing. >> Pretty hype. Um, it would be really crazy and I would be very happy if they
00:26:53
did a lot of settings change ups like they did with ice cream sandwich where everything was kind of neon and weird.
00:26:59
>> And just this morning it leaked that the new design language that they're using
00:27:04
is called luminous design. >> Don't they ch Okay, they changed this so
00:27:07
much. All right. Well, I think that they'll still have material you expressive as the like, you know,
00:27:13
material interface, but I think that luminous design is going to be like the Gemini kind of like intelligent features
00:27:20
are going to have the Luminous stuff is my guess. >> So, it's being teased as biggest Android
00:27:25
updates ever, but it's not the biggest Android updates ever. It's just the
00:27:29
Gemini parts. >> I don't think it's just the Gemini parts. I think that they're probably
00:27:32
adding a ton of Android features, >> which is cool cuz I have no idea what
00:27:37
they would add. I'm very curious how they're going to live up to this amount
00:27:39
of hype because this is >> Yeah. >> Yeah. Material 3 Expressive is new,
00:27:42
right? That just came out like two years ago. >> Yeah. From like two or three years ago,
00:27:46
something like that. Something like that. >> So, for them to have in for them to be
00:27:49
introducing a brand new design. >> Yeah. >> I would imagine that's just for like the
00:27:54
glowing around your screen when you hold down the button to access Gemini, which
00:27:58
is already a thing. So, like what else would they use this for? >> Well, they just push pushed a big update
00:28:03
for the Gemini app on Android. um where it looks a lot more neon like this like yesterday. So if you have it that'd be
00:28:10
that'd be interesting to see. >> Uh yeah. So I don't know. They say
00:28:13
biggest Android updates ever. I'm really curious what that means. It could be so
00:28:17
many things. Are there any Android features that you have been like wishing for? Not specifically, honestly. I mean
00:28:23
the hardware is what's been fun to play with in Android land. And then I use
00:28:27
Android Android Android most of the same way I did 5 years ago which is also mostly the same way I did 5 years before
00:28:33
that. >> Yeah. So yeah, Gemini a little bit more a little circle to search stuff a little
00:28:37
bit more, but it's genuinely mostly the same. I'm pretty happy with it. >> The one I'm really excited for is the I
00:28:43
forget what it's called, but the Chrome desktop when you plug it in, pixel desktop or whatever.
00:28:47
>> Yeah. Making that better. >> Making it better to like be a Dex competitor for real.
00:28:51
>> For sure. >> Um because right now it's like in developer beta or something like that
00:28:54
and it's fine. You can use it, but it's not like I wouldn't say it's good. It's
00:28:58
just like fun to play around with. If they can make that good, that would be awesome.
00:29:02
>> Yeah. Well, thankfully the event is next Tuesday, so we'll be able to talk about
00:29:06
on the show next week. I won't because I won't be here, but you guys will be able
00:29:10
to talk about on the show next week. And it's at 10:00 a.m. Pacific time. So, you
00:29:13
guys should all uh chime in. Maybe we could get that live thread thing going. >> I would love that, but I don't know if
00:29:20
that's out yet. It's rolling out slowly. The other uh Google news is that Google
00:29:25
Home Gemini can now do multiple and more complicated requests at once, which is a
00:29:31
big uh a big update. Sick. >> Home 3.1. It improves Gemini's ability to interpret and act on requests like
00:29:37
complex tasks or multiple tasks in one query. >> I need an example. >> I think you should be able to say like
00:29:43
turn on the lights in the bedroom and also open up the shades in the living room.
00:29:47
>> So you can like chain things together. >> You can chain things together. Um, also
00:29:51
more complex stuff. Uh, it will also make Gemini better at handling recurring all day events and allow you to move
00:29:58
around upcoming events with your voice, which is interesting. That's helpful.
00:30:02
>> All I want is better search in Gmail. >> Like, just use this for Gmail.
00:30:07
>> Yeah. How is it so bad? >> Why are they doing all this? Just give
00:30:10
me good search in Gmail. >> I don't know. It's still so bad. It is
00:30:12
crazy. Uh they are also launching in beta a way to manage your smart home from a computer and you can search your
00:30:19
camera history with natural language. You can create routines from your desktop. So that's nice.
00:30:25
>> You just said routines and that made me think of another thing that I hope they
00:30:28
introduce into Android which is like Samsung's routines and like uh Apple shortcuts like something like that.
00:30:36
>> Yeah. Goo. They have some already, right? Automations. >> Oh, automations. You're right.
00:30:41
>> Yeah. and Gemini stuff are good >> in Google Home. I think they're pretty
00:30:45
good. Well, I some of mine are broken, so I haven't actually updated them in a
00:30:49
while. But I I do know they have that. Let's see. >> Like if they automation
00:30:53
>> if they flesh that out, that would also be pretty sick. >> Yeah. >> Yeah.
00:30:57
>> Cuz there's not many things that I want Android to take from iOS specifically,
00:31:01
but Shortcuts is one of them. >> Yeah. >> And I know you can use Macro Droid and
00:31:05
Tasker and all those things, but those are so insanely powerful. I don't need
00:31:08
all that. >> Yeah. Yeah. I don't know. It's kind of exciting for them to hype it so much
00:31:12
when I don't even know what I want them to add. It's like I feel like we're
00:31:16
going to be surprised because none of these features have leaked so far, which is kind of surprising.
00:31:20
>> Yeah. I feel like Android I mean I don't know. I guess both operating systems are
00:31:25
pretty mature at this point for what I would like what I want. >> Yeah. >> So there's not really much you can do
00:31:31
besides a design change that would make me be like whoa. It's such a huge change
00:31:35
up from what we already had. Yeah. >> Like that's why with iOS, liquid glass
00:31:39
was like such a thing because it changed how everything looked. I wouldn't say it
00:31:42
like >> changed much of the functionality in a drastic way. >> No. >> So I'm curious why they're hyping this
00:31:48
up so much. Like what are they going to introduce? >> Yeah. It's interesting that they're kind
00:31:51
of showcasing the Pixel Glow stuff considering that's fairly necess Well, they're pro. I mean maybe they
00:32:00
will. Maybe they'll show off the Pixel 11 and the Pixelbook or whatever. I doubt it, but like it would be cool. It
00:32:07
would be cool. >> That would be crazy. >> Yeah, if they randomly dropped the Pixel
00:32:10
>> I mean they could do the Pixel laptop, right? >> Yeah, they could. Or at least they could
00:32:14
hype it. >> You think they would drop that with the phones in August, September, October,
00:32:18
whenever the Pixel event? >> I think they would do it separately. >> Really?
00:32:21
>> I think Yeah, from the separate from the phones. >> Really? >> Let the phones shine. But if you're
00:32:25
going to do a laptop, >> I don't know. >> Like a new laptop, you could do that
00:32:28
separately. >> I mean, when they did the Pixelbook Go, it was at the same time as the phones
00:32:31
when the Pixel 4 came out. >> True. I guess Google doesn't always think logically,
00:32:35
>> so that's fair. >> Yeah, but it's a I mean it's an I mean
00:32:38
this is supposed to be their Android Chrome OS merger laptop, so it could be >> and like why do you need the phones to
00:32:45
have their moment to shine when they're just Gemini machines? You know, >> they're not that different.
00:32:51
>> You know what I mean? >> Just IO. >> Yeah, that's true. Just drop separate
00:32:55
from my own. >> Yeah. Um I went to the Google store in Williamsburg this past weekend.
00:32:59
>> Oh, yeah. >> And >> you were close to me and you didn't tell
00:33:01
me. Is Williamsburg close to you? >> Yes. >> Oh, sorry. >> Right below me. I can walk there in 20
00:33:05
minutes. >> Oh, well, sorry. I'll hit I'll tell you next time. But I was in the store and my
00:33:10
mom was with me because I was going to get a what was it? Like a a Titan security key for for my sister. That's
00:33:16
what she ended up picking. >> You can get them at the Google store. >> Yeah, they sell them there.
00:33:18
>> Oh, wow. >> Um, cool. >> But she was walking around. She's like,
00:33:21
"This is cozy. This is not like the Apple store at all." And I was like, "I
00:33:26
bet that was very intentional." >> Like, it is a lot like the Apple store.
00:33:29
I mean, it's more it's more cozy because they have more fibers and stuff, but
00:33:32
>> I think more fibers, a lot of wood. >> The Apple store. >> Apple is like metal and wood and like
00:33:38
glass. >> Yeah, that's true. White walls. >> Yeah, they only have a couple of stores,
00:33:42
so they got to make them hype. Yeah. >> All right. Uh, okay. Speaking of Apple
00:33:47
news, >> Apple is going to allow you to choose which AI model to use for different
00:33:52
Apple intelligence features, which is kind of it's kind of interesting. Um, >> it's very of the- moment. Yes.
00:33:58
>> I was asking, can one of you explain this to me because I do not understand
00:34:02
what this means at all. >> Yeah. Okay. So, this is according to Bloomberg. Uh, in iOS 27, you're going
00:34:06
to be able to use an extensions feature which lets you pick different AI models for different features of Apple
00:34:11
intelligence like Siri writing tools, image playground, other stuff. So, it's
00:34:17
become clear over the last year or two years that these different AI models that people subscribe to, whether it's
00:34:22
Claude or Chat GPT or Gemini, are better at certain things, right? and people subscribe to different ones. And at this
00:34:29
point, I think Apple has given up trying to make their own competitive model, right? Like it would cost so much money
00:34:37
and the the race is moving so fast and the updates are coming so fast that Apple would have to basically create an
00:34:42
entire additional company within Apple just to keep up with all these other companies. So it makes more sense to
00:34:49
just be the compute company that like runs the models. They are the hardware that everyone will run the models on,
00:34:55
right? So once all these models see obviously there's the cloud models and then once these local models get good
00:35:00
enough that everyone's running them locally on all their machines they're
00:35:04
the ones here with the machines. >> Yeah. And that we run them on their >> totally. Yeah. So like the iPhone is
00:35:09
probably going to use Gemini Nano for like Siri things right. But for all the other features like image playground
00:35:15
which literally nobody uses uh chatbt currently has you know it's competitive
00:35:21
between chatbt and Gemini for who has the best image model. >> Sure. >> But the fact that most people are
00:35:27
probably only subscribed to one of these AI models at a time. Right. So if you are subscribed to Gemini versus Chacht,
00:35:35
you want to plug in all of your Gemini stuff to your iPhone so that works natively and Apple's happy to let you do
00:35:40
that. Um, it's more interesting that you can choose which model for which feature,
00:35:46
>> which I guess makes sense because, you know, some models like Claude is better
00:35:50
at reasoning. So, if there was some sort of reasoning feature in the iPhone, I guess that's better for reasoning, you
00:35:58
would plug in your Claude model. Um, it is kind of like a if you know, you know,
00:36:02
kind of thing. Like the average iPhone user probably isn't going to be plugging
00:36:06
in a bunch of different models, but yeah, you know. >> Yeah. I really want to see what the UI
00:36:10
is for this because >> I feel like if I'm trying to do I don't know like Siri I want to have Siri be
00:36:17
accessing Gemini >> but then for >> image generation >> chat GPT and then for circle to search
00:36:25
oh let's do Gemini again and then >> like all those different things shortcut
00:36:29
automations let me use claude for that >> what is that UI even going to look like
00:36:33
even saying out loud I'm kind of confused >> yeah maybe just it's a defaults page in
00:36:38
the settings like The way you can choose your search engine default now by going
00:36:42
into settings and switching it from Google to one of the other options on the list
00:36:45
>> generation default. >> If there's like a Apple intelligence section in the settings, which there is,
00:36:50
and you go into all the different features and can drop down a list and change the defaults to all of them.
00:36:56
Yeah, >> maybe there is a default for all of them that lines up. Maybe it's Gemini for
00:36:58
everything, but then you can go go on the list and change. >> Yeah. My question becomes like how much
00:37:02
is this going to impact your usage limits for all of these all these apps? Cuz if you accidentally like hit all
00:37:09
your usage limits on Claude just by using your iPhone and then you can't really use it on your computer, that's
00:37:14
pretty annoying. >> Yeah. Will it And will it be like an extension that plugs into your account
00:37:18
with Claude or is it just uh like a fully isolated instance of like asking Claude for something but has no context
00:37:25
from your account? >> I imagine account >> cuz right now when you ask for something
00:37:30
that Siri can't handle and it kicks out to chat GPT that's not with the context
00:37:35
of your account. You can sign into your account though. >> You can sign in. Okay.
00:37:38
>> Yeah. >> But when it wasn't signed in, it was just however many queries you want. It
00:37:42
didn't matter. >> The free version basically. >> Yeah. >> Yeah.
00:37:46
>> But there's still limits to the free version. So, it's kind of And I don't
00:37:49
think Apple's going to want to pay that bill for a bunch of regular people. >> But it it would be interesting if you
00:37:55
couldn't use all of the features of your iPhone unless you had an AI subscription
00:37:59
plan from a different company. >> Interesting. Or apocalyptic? I don't know about apocalyptic.
00:38:05
>> Definitely driving a lot of usage of this stuff. >> Yeah. >> Yeah, for sure.
00:38:09
>> I don't know if there's anything Siri can't handle, we'll just uh kick it out
00:38:12
to any of these companies. >> Yeah. I mean, maybe it's possible that these companies have are going to have
00:38:17
deals with Apple because they want people to use their product more, right? So, if Anthropic wants more people to
00:38:23
adopt Claude and they say, "Oh, you can try Claude on the you can use Claude on
00:38:27
the iPhone for free." And then it motivates people to use Claude on their desktop.
00:38:32
>> Yep. Then that's good for anthropics for them. It's possible. >> Exactly.
00:38:36
>> Can I tell a funny Apple intelligence story from last week? Yes. I uh I
00:38:40
decided to fire up uh what's it called? Genoji. >> I love D. I use it all the time.
00:38:45
>> Really? Because I >> I'm biggest fan. >> I cannot get anything useful out of it.
00:38:49
And to be fair, the story I'm about to tell is mostly user error. >> But but but what happened is is I was
00:38:55
like I needed a a a cowboy boot emoji. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> And so I I searched
00:39:02
>> I was just moving really fast and I just searched boot and it it gave me a rain
00:39:06
boot and I was like, "Oh, I didn't get specific enough. Silly me." So I put in
00:39:09
cowboy boot >> and it put a cowboy hat on the rain boot. >> Wow. >> That should know.
00:39:18
>> And I was like, >> "That's incredible." >> Okay,
00:39:20
>> that's so good. Last Apple story and then we'll take it to trivia and a brag.
00:39:24
>> Yeah. Apple is going to need to pay iPhone owners $250 million for not delivering the AI Siri that they
00:39:31
promised everybody. >> Yes. >> Wow. Give me my $12. >> Yes. Less than Well,
00:39:36
>> $12. That's way too much. You're getting like a nickel. >> Yeah.
00:39:39
>> I think it's actually It actually is more $20. 25. It's between 25 and 95
00:39:44
depending on the circumstances. >> Every iPhone user gets $20. >> No, it's it's the people. Okay. Oh, let
00:39:49
me let me Okay. There's a class actioning lawsuit that alleges that Apple misled customers about Apple
00:39:54
intelligence and has gotten Apple to pay between $25 and $95 to each person that
00:39:59
purchased an iPhone 15 Pro or any iPhone 16 between June 10th, 2024 and March 29th, 2025.
00:40:07
>> Mhm. >> The lawsuit is alleging that Apple gave people a clear and reasonable consumer
00:40:11
expectation that Apple intelligence features would be available on these phones while they ended up being
00:40:16
significantly limited or sometimes entirely absent. Um, >> correct. >> Uh, this is a story from The Verge and
00:40:23
they did speak they did reach out to Apple and Apple spokesperson Marne Goldberg told them that the company
00:40:29
decided to settle the matter so they could get back to focusing on building innovative products for their users. So,
00:40:36
it sounds like they just knew they weren't going to win this, so they were just like, just take the money, make it
00:40:40
go away. >> Yeah. >> I also think Apple just doesn't financially want to get involved in like
00:40:45
the the circular AI. We're developing a model buying chips from people who give
00:40:50
us money to buy their chip. >> It's just, you know, >> we know that you, the Way from audience,
00:40:56
misses Andrew so much. We don't miss him at all, but you guys miss him. But if
00:41:01
you want to see what he's up to while he's on paternity leave, he was recently
00:41:05
on a disc golf tournament. >> Would you do paternity leave? >> Because he said he's on paternity leave
00:41:10
and then these videos are dropping and he's playing disc golf. Yeah. >> Um, but yeah, there's a creators
00:41:15
tournament that's being posted weekly, I think, online now. Uh, you guys can go
00:41:20
check him out and comment saying you're coming from Waveform. So, we could uh
00:41:23
>> Oh, yeah. >> like take over their comments. A comment takeover, basically is what I'm
00:41:27
proposing. >> Okay. If Andrew wins, what happens? And if he loses, >> that's a good one. What do we have him
00:41:33
do? >> Oh, yeah. We got to make him do something. >> Okay. If he wins, he has to come back
00:41:38
and host a solo pod. a director's cut narrating every shot he took. >> Yes. Okay, that's a good one, too.
00:41:45
>> That's so >> You're gonna You're gonna make him Jaylen Brown.
00:41:49
>> He would do it. He would do it. Well, go watch his uh disc golf tournament.
00:41:53
That'll be pretty fun. >> Yeah. >> And now the moment you've all been
00:41:57
waiting for that I'm also waiting for. >> Trivia. All right. First question. The
00:42:07
Chromebook Pixel came out in 2013. >> Yeah. >> What was the size of the screen closest?
00:42:14
Without going over. >> Oh man. >> Oh man. It was a touch screen >> to the nearest decimal.
00:42:18
>> It was a little bit tall. It was like 3200 by 2,800. >> Them bezels be thick though.
00:42:23
>> Be thick. >> They were thick as real. Why do I know all these things but not the size of the
00:42:27
screen? >> Damn. >> You just know the vibe, you know. >> Yeah.
00:42:30
>> I still have one. I I tripped over it yesterday. >> So it's on the floor.
00:42:34
>> I'm not even joking. I tripped over it. >> I've deduced that it's on the floor
00:42:38
tripping over. >> David always keeps his laptops on the floor. This is the only time I see
00:42:42
David's laptop on the desk when we're in this room. >> Yeah. >> It's always slightly a jar, you know. On
00:42:48
the floor. >> It was exactly $1,000 or No, >> I think so. I think it's $9.99.
00:42:52
>> Everyone Everyone loved that it was $1,000. If you went to IO, you got like
00:42:56
$400 off. >> Oh, right. Yeah. People love that cuz they would sell it >> because they would get it for cheap.
00:43:02
>> I didn't sell mine. I bought it with course. I also hardearned cash.
00:43:05
>> I also did that and then I reviewed it. >> Damn. Chromebook. >> I like that computer. It was cool
00:43:09
because it was like it was good hardware. It was really really thin and uh >> an oxymoron.
00:43:15
>> Good hardware and thin. >> No, the the Chromebook Pixels existence
00:43:18
of uh Oh, you only really need to do Chrome because it's a Chromebook and you
00:43:22
kind of don't need to do much. Okay, here's a cheap Chrome computer. >> Yeah.
00:43:26
>> Oh. Oh, you want a premium laptop that does way more? Well, it doesn't. It's
00:43:30
just a Chromebook, >> but you can spend a,000. You don't really need it to do by warm, but you
00:43:34
just want the hardware to be nice, you know, and chip and a bunch of RAM and all
00:43:38
>> using Chrome. You want to be able to feel that hardware feels good >> when you minimize the desktop and open
00:43:44
up Chrome again. >> Yeah, that's right. >> You want it to be nice and smooth.
00:43:48
>> That's absolutely You're absolutely right, Marcus. >> Yeah.
00:43:50
>> All right. Well, we'll think about that answers at the end like usual. We'll be
00:43:54
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00:45:07
here on the Waveform podcast playing another game because there's noing news
00:45:11
this week. >> Whoa, not enough. >> We just spent 50 minutes talking about
00:45:15
news. Yeah, four stories. Four stories in seven years ago. There was way more freaking news than this week. So
00:45:21
>> yeah, you guys are yappers. It means tomorrow. >> Yeah, >> it's all going to happen.
00:45:25
>> Oh, it's all God. You know, Thursday news. What state that was originally set
00:45:28
in? Right. >> New Jersey. >> Pennsylvania vania, which is the same as
00:45:32
Philadelphia, which is where the 76ers play. >> Why'd you just throw something at
00:45:36
Mariah? >> It was I threw something. It just kind of went across. >> Well, because there's no news.
00:45:41
>> Yeah, I actually gonna need that back. We're gonna play >> No,
00:45:44
>> we are going to play a game. Uh Adam says it's the newlyweds game, but
00:45:48
contrary to popular belief, I'm not married to Marquez. >> Yeah. >> Uh may happen later.
00:45:52
>> Yeah. TBD. >> We'll see. >> This is the same game we played earlier
00:45:56
this year. Andrew uh adapted it for tech. And in his honor, because he is on paternity leave, air quotes,
00:46:04
we are bringing it back to play it again. So, if you don't remember how to play, I will be asking you guys a
00:46:09
question and you need to answer what the answer would be for your partner. >> So, teams this week is going to be David
00:46:16
and Marquez versus Ellis and Mariah. >> Okay. >> Again, there's a plus five confidence
00:46:22
boost. >> What is that? What does that mean? >> You really know the answer. Yeah, we
00:46:27
played it. >> I saw how poorly this went last time. >> I was with this. If you really know the
00:46:32
answer that your partner's going to put down, you can confidence boost and you'll get plus five points.
00:46:36
>> Remember when we did the iPhone one and we both knew that we were thinking like
00:46:39
iPhone 4S or something at the same time? >> We were locked in last time. >> We were locked.
00:46:43
>> Actually, you know what? Maybe I'll do plus three. Plus five is like a kind of
00:46:47
a lot. I'll do plus three. >> Okay. Are we ready? >> Yeah. Anyone have any questions?
00:46:52
>> I don't think so. >> Do you want to explain how it works for the listeners?
00:46:54
>> Yeah. >> I I thought I just did. >> Listen up. >> No, you didn't. Try that again.
00:46:59
>> Here's how it works. You just said there's a confidence boost. >> Al Andrew's Jesus.
00:47:05
>> Andrew's on paternity leave. >> Here's how it works. Adam is going to
00:47:08
ask us a question. Like the whole group. Two of us are going to write an answer that question. Then our teammates are
00:47:14
going to guess what we wrote on our boards. >> Thank you, Ellis. >> Thank you.
00:47:18
>> Okay. >> I don't know what to do when you're not here by my side. I'm all alone over
00:47:21
here. Such a big table and just little old me. >> Y. >> First question.
00:47:26
>> All right. >> Uh, who do I want to give this to? Let's see. Who gets first? Do you guys want to
00:47:30
decide? You guys decide. >> How confident are you in your partnership? >> Winner chooses.
00:47:36
>> Wait, you guys are on the same team. >> That's okay. I don't care.
00:47:39
>> Okay. >> Well, it has to one or one or the other has to get the question right.
00:47:43
>> Yeah. >> So, >> okay. On three or after three. >> Rock, paper, scissors. Shoot.
00:47:47
>> Shoot. Okay. >> Yeah. Ready? Rock, paper, scissors. Shoot. >> Rock, paper, scissors. Shoot.
00:47:52
>> H. >> I choose you to answer first. So, y'all two are going first. Okay, first
00:47:59
question. >> What app would you say? >> Wait, so I'm guessing what Marquez and I
00:48:06
are so good. >> I'm answering. >> How often do we talk about apps?
00:48:10
>> And you guess what? I would say >> so often. >> Yeah, we're like,
00:48:13
>> you know, when we text, it's it's all app talk. >> I figured your whole Slack message is
00:48:17
just about apps. Okay. What app would your partner say is their guilty pleasure?
00:48:23
>> Oh, so you're saying what app your guilty pleasure is. >> Okay. Okay. I'm wondering if you
00:48:28
>> What do I even have on this phone? >> I'm wondering if you know this.
00:48:32
>> Wait, so I'm writing what my guilty pleasure is and then Mariah is guessing.
00:48:35
>> Yes, exactly. >> Okay. >> So, Mariah, you're guessing my dirty
00:48:39
pleasure app. >> Guilty. >> Not dirty pleasures. >> Definitely not dirty pleasure.
00:48:45
>> Can I Can I go back to my corner, please? >> I don't want to be here at the table,
00:48:51
>> guys. The lights are too bright. >> Wait for after dark. Thank you.
00:48:59
>> Waveform after dark. >> Wow, that's deeper than I thought it was.
00:49:04
>> I want to go home every time. >> All right. >> All right. >> Let's see if Marquette's going to
00:49:07
remember. >> What do you got? >> Okay. >> Um, I had two things come to mind. I
00:49:12
think yours is either some obscure camera app or it's literally Instagram. >> David would feel guilty for using a
00:49:19
camera app instead of a camera >> like his like his eighth camera app or something. But I also earlier on this
00:49:25
episode we were talking about how you wish Instagram DMs were separate from Instagram so you didn't have to use
00:49:29
Instagram so much. So I think it's Instagram. >> Do I tell him now? >> Sure.
00:49:34
>> Okay. >> Uh I don't get I don't get pleasure from Instagram. I'll tell you that.
00:49:38
>> Um >> we're so far away from guilt. I'm sorry guys. >> I will say it's Pokemon TCG Pocket
00:49:44
>> cuz the only game I have on my phone besides a good game >> besides Bellro.
00:49:48
>> Why is that your guilty pleasure? >> Because I don't >> you know I have spend no money on it.
00:49:54
You >> But I still have guilt for playing games. >> Why? >> Because we live in America.
00:49:59
>> We should work that out instead. >> Have your fun. Play some games.
00:50:01
>> You're not still doing Bellatro, right? >> I sometimes on the subway.
00:50:04
>> Okay. >> It's good for the subway. >> Batro is offline.
00:50:07
>> Play chess on your phone. >> Oh, maybe I'll pick it up. >> Chess.
00:50:11
>> Yeah. >> Oh, we'll get to that. Marquez. >> Okay. >> Okay. Ellis.
00:50:15
>> Ellis. >> Okay. >> I think I'm putting all my eggs in one
00:50:19
basket. I don't know much about Ellis, but from what I know in our four years
00:50:25
of uh >> working together, >> I'm going to put all my money on the
00:50:29
McDonald's app. >> Oh, that would have been good. >> Damn, that is good.
00:50:33
>> The app I feel guiltiest about using because of everything that goes down on
00:50:39
it is Twitter. >> Oh yeah, >> that's the Sixers are >> unbelievably plentiful.
00:50:46
Yeah, Twitter has been a really safe place for me lately, but the rest of that app is an ocean of chaos.
00:50:52
>> That's the hard thing about Twitter is it's still the people there are still
00:50:55
the funniest people and the memes are still the funniest, but the the ratio of that to just like racism and sexism and
00:51:02
nudity is crazy. >> We hate it. Sorry, Ellis. I let you down. >> It's okay.
00:51:07
>> Damn. Maybe you guys couldn't make it up with this one. All right. If your
00:51:10
partner could get rid of one overhyped piece of tech from the last decade, what would it be?
00:51:16
>> Oh gosh. >> Just snap your fingers and it's gone. >> This is Marquez's writing.
00:51:20
>> Yep. Overhyped piece. >> This is hard. This is hard. >> An overhyped piece of tech from the last
00:51:26
decade. >> From the last decade. >> I mean, I'm a hater. >> So, it could be
00:51:31
>> new soundboard bite. H I don't even >> Yeah, this is a tough one.
00:51:40
>> Mhm. >> I I don't have an answer. I honestly >> It could be software.
00:51:45
>> Could be software. >> Overhyped. >> Yeah, an overhyped piece of tech.
00:51:49
>> I I could get rid of >> Should I run it again? >> Let's give you a little more time.
00:51:55
>> Yeah, run it again. >> Overhyped tech. >> This is a hard one. This feels like a
00:51:59
copout. >> It's like the first thing I can think of. But think about what your partner would
00:52:04
think of. >> Ellis hates a lot of things. >> I know. >> Yeah. Yeah.
00:52:08
>> We're both haters. How do I pick my biggest hate? >> Overhyped. Let the hate flow through
00:52:14
you. >> What would Mariah think is overhyped so much? >> What do you think that you think is
00:52:20
overhyped? >> I don't have a good answer. I >> I picked a norm answer.
00:52:23
>> This is bad. Um, I should just think of something on the spot. overhyped
00:52:30
that I wish never happened. Get rid of it. >> That David would wish never happened.
00:52:35
>> No, no, no. It's that No, it's Marquez and I guess what he >> Oh, I'm sorry. You're right. I don't
00:52:39
know how this is what you did last time. I don't know how to play this last time.
00:52:44
>> Okay. Uh, nope. No. >> I feel like you don't want to get rid of
00:52:49
it, right? Like you you don't want to get rid of it, but what do you think is
00:52:52
just overhyped? Say you don't have to get rid of it, but just think of a piece
00:52:56
of tech that's overhyped. from the last 10 years. >> Yeah, they're like what? It's it's whatever
00:53:04
compared to the hype that people be behind it. >> I don't know examples. I don't have
00:53:12
>> a true tech lover. He's a true lover of tech. >> Was it hype though?
00:53:18
>> Uh for some for some. >> Are you guys from the same thing? >> I really hope you didn't write the
00:53:24
humidity icon. >> Um Okay. >> Damn. I mean, I have one that I think Marquez would put, but I don't think
00:53:33
that he thought of it. >> Okay. >> So, >> correct. >> Yeah,
00:53:39
>> this is a softball. >> I'm going to say the Humane AI pin >> just because I think that's what he
00:53:44
wrote >> at the last minute. >> I wrote the humane pin. >> Let's go.
00:53:49
>> One point. All right. >> Yeah. >> Ellis and Mariah. >> Mariah, this is a tough one because
00:53:53
>> was it hyped up? >> It was I mean, before it came out, it was hella hyped.
00:53:57
>> Yeah. Dude, they were hyped. Do you not remember like the year leading up to it?
00:54:03
We'd go on the website and it would be like, "We're not going to tell you what
00:54:06
it is, >> but you're all they all hyped it and everyone watched it and went, no, it's
00:54:12
not." >> Yeah. >> Well, once they announced it, >> no, we all looked at them and went like,
00:54:15
"Why are they hyping this so much? It's clearly not going to be >> expectations, reality."
00:54:21
>> No, it was internal hype, expectations, reality. >> That's true.
00:54:25
>> That's true. What a what a Anyway, Mariah, I know you're a hater, but I
00:54:29
also know you're someone that will live with the tech products you hate for some
00:54:33
time. Uh there there was a while where the slack was Mariah being like, "My
00:54:38
pixel watch is driving me." >> She loves the Pixel Watch. >> Correct me if I'm wrong though. Didn't
00:54:42
you lose a Pixel Watch because it fell off your wrist and into a trash can and you just decided you were not going to
00:54:47
get it? Like that it was I reached into a trash can and it unclipped itself into
00:54:52
the trash can. >> It was a walleye. like leaving it. >> I am home. >> I was going to leave it at a Wawa.
00:54:58
>> It was the first generation, by the way. The Pixel Watch is good now, but the
00:55:00
first gen was horrible. >> Audio listeners, it's still here. >> She's still wearing the Pixel Watch.
00:55:05
>> My My instinct, you know, my first instinct is to to make it something gamer related, like gamer chairs.
00:55:12
>> But I think you wanted the point so bad that you went with a very benol answer.
00:55:16
So, I am also going to say the humane iP. That's really unfortunate because that's
00:55:23
true. >> We should have both of us should have tripled down on that. >> I was not what I was thinking that you
00:55:29
should have said, Marquez, because I know that you just hate nostalgia. >> Pixel Watch is good.
00:55:32
>> I know that you're like a nostalgia hater. You're like, "This only exists
00:55:35
because of nostalgia." >> Even though you're really hyped about Backyard Baseball coming back.
00:55:40
>> Yes. >> I would have just said, >> which is also nostalgia.
00:55:43
>> Yeah. >> Yeah. A final runner up for the new soundboard was Marquez saying, "We've
00:55:47
just invented this really new cool thing, but do you remember the old thing?"
00:55:56
>> That's a good one. >> Yeah. I would have said for you, I would
00:55:58
have done like emulators or something because it's all nostalgia based. >> Mario Kart 39.
00:56:03
>> Mario Kart. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Okay. >> That's good. That's good.
00:56:09
>> This is somehow turning into the hater awards, but I love it. All right, next
00:56:13
question. >> I love this game. >> At what battery percentage do you think
00:56:19
your partner starts freaking out and looking for a charger? >> Oh gosh. >> Huh.
00:56:24
>> This is easy. >> Yeah. What What battery percentage do I start freaking out? Mariah,
00:56:28
>> I mean, Ellis is living large now. He's got >> That man came from a mini.
00:56:32
>> Yeah, he's no fear. He >> probably gets a 3% and doesn't even
00:56:35
think twice. >> David. >> Yeah, >> I have a theory for this one.
00:56:40
>> Okay. Yeah, I Yeah, I get that. >> Is it like closest? >> Yeah. How close do we need to be?
00:56:46
>> There's a 100 digits. >> Closest without going over. >> Without going over.
00:56:49
>> Yeah, >> what did you put? >> Okay. I think I I got an answer.
00:56:59
>> Okay. >> All right. I think I know what you would say. >> All right. I'm ready.
00:57:03
>> Should I go first? >> Sure. >> Yeah. uh you're on an iPhone
00:57:07
>> and when you hit 20% on an iPhone, it automatically switches the battery icon
00:57:12
to red and switches to low power mode. And I think that's the exact moment you
00:57:15
start looking for a charger. So 20 >> uh 64. >> Oo, you start to freak out at 6.
00:57:23
>> I have massive power anxiety, dude. I have battery anxiety all the time. No,
00:57:27
it doesn't matter that it's the Air. >> It does, though. >> No.
00:57:29
>> Yeah, >> pretty much any device. >> The Air is never even over 64%.
00:57:33
>> Hey You take it off the charger. My air is at 94 right now because I always keep
00:57:38
it on the charger. >> We've been doing nothing for an hour. How's it at 94?
00:57:41
>> Yeah, cuz I've been doing nothing. >> So, it drains 6%. >> Yeah. Sitting there.
00:57:45
>> Well, yeah. I guess >> 64% on an iPhone 17 will last you the rest of the day.
00:57:50
>> Yeah. >> 17 Pro will last you like >> two days, not weekend.
00:57:55
>> Either way, I get really anxious when my devices hit 64. >> Well, I didn't go over.
00:57:59
>> Yeah. So, you're 44 percentiles off. >> 44. Yeah. Yeah. So, let's see what uh
00:58:04
see what they get. >> What do you want to guess, Mariah? >> I wish I had listened to You're not
00:58:08
going to say anything. >> I I feel like you could go feral. I think your phone could get pretty low
00:58:15
before you. >> I have been known to be pretty feral around these parts. >> I'm thinking single digits.
00:58:19
>> That's what I think. >> And my hunch is 5%. >> This is really my fault. I don't even
00:58:25
know why I'm mad cuz I am feral. I PUT ZERO. I DON'T give a anymore. >> I knew it. After that mini life, dude,
00:58:33
my phone goes all the way down and I'm still with your friend being jealous.
00:58:36
Why would you? >> Because I had a pro now. Like >> that's the only number I can lose at.
00:58:42
>> I wrote it down and then Adam says closest without going over and I knew.
00:58:47
>> I will say I knew that you would write zero. >> I was going to say like 1%.
00:58:52
>> I was three. >> As soon as he said close without going over, I was like, well, all of the
00:58:55
numbers are over. That is >> that means we get the point. Yeah, we >> by default
00:59:02
get the point like don't really charge my phone that much. >> Like I I regularly just like fall asleep
00:59:08
with it. >> Well, the next question was going to be what is your current battery percentage?
00:59:13
I just said >> David just said it, so I have to ignore that one. >> Yeah, but it's Marquez's.
00:59:16
>> You said 94. >> That's true. >> That is true. Okay. Yeah. All right.
00:59:20
>> On which which phone of his? >> Don't worry about it. >> That's
00:59:22
>> That is fair. Okay. No, let's do the Air. >> They're very different. The Air. What is
00:59:26
the battery percentage on Mariah Marquez's phone right now? >> But are we doing close without going
00:59:31
over? >> Closest without going over. >> Without going over, >> right?
00:59:35
>> H interesting. >> Mar, what phone do you have right now? >> I'm sorry to all of my Pixel lovers, but
00:59:43
we are now on the S24 Ultra. >> Oh, wa. What happened here? >> It's not by choice.
00:59:49
>> What happened to your Pixel? >> I cursed. What happened? And Mariah
00:59:52
seems like a charges her phone every night kind of person. And Mariah drives to work, which means she charges her
00:59:58
phone in the car. >> Sometimes does. >> And she sat at her desk for about an
01:00:03
hour and a half. >> What happened to your Pixel? >> It fell one foot and the screen won't
01:00:08
turn on. >> I cursed her. >> Was it a six? >> Uh, yeah. >> Legendary. Yeah,
01:00:13
>> you're probably the last remaining Pixel 6. >> Uh, support ends in October, so it was
01:00:18
fine. >> That's fair. All right. Um, I'm going to guess. Okay. I think that it's at without going
01:00:28
over. >> Yeah, without going over Marquez's iPhone Air. >> I think it's 72, but I'm going to give
01:00:34
myself a little buffer room. I'm going to say 69. >> Nice. >> Thanks.
01:00:38
>> All right. >> What is it? 83. See, this is what I'm talking about. It's not that bad.
01:00:43
>> 83. Okay. >> The battery is not that bad, >> dude. It's 12:00.
01:00:46
>> We're not even halfway through the day. >> Yeah, I know. Anything. Wait,
01:00:49
>> he's done nothing. What phone? >> iPhone Air. >> iPhone Air.
01:00:52
>> Oh, okay. Then I feel really confident in my guess. So confident I'm using this
01:00:56
confidence. >> Oh, snap. >> Could be a plus three. >> And I think Mariah has 84% battery or
01:01:03
greater. >> And that is why I have 91%. >> Damn triple. >> I made it up. I made up for my 0% gaff.
01:01:12
>> Wow. >> Plus three points for LS. >> A trip. Is that what they call it? A
01:01:16
trip in basketball when you get a triple. >> A three-pointer. Sure, man. >> Yeah, it could work.
01:01:20
>> What do they call it? A trip. >> Well, I don't want to >> honestly. Yeah.
01:01:23
>> Yeah, that works. Three. >> Yeah, a trip. >> My baby got a lot of trips.
01:01:27
>> All right. >> He got an okay amount of trips. Okay. >> I had the bobblehead.
01:01:33
>> The baby bobblehead. >> Quick update on the score after that confidence boost by Ellis.
01:01:37
>> And Mariah now have four total points. >> David Marquez running up the rear with
01:01:43
two. >> Okay. We can still get our confidence. Lock it. >> Yeah, we got to get this one.
01:01:48
>> Get it. All right. Okay. Is your partner a read receipts person or a red receipts
01:01:54
person? >> Oh, >> I'm guessing I'm I'm guessing Marquez.
01:01:58
>> Wait, what? >> No, you're saying >> how do you say it? How do you pronounce
01:02:00
it? Read or read? >> We've had this. We have literally yelled at each other about this so many times.
01:02:05
>> I didn't know this was even a debate. >> Yeah, we debate all the time the way
01:02:09
it's supposed to be said. Read receipts or red receipts. >> I don't even know what you're writing on
01:02:13
your whiteboard. >> It's going to be the same. Wait, what do you mean?
01:02:21
>> No, it's it's phonetic. >> Okay. >> Okay. Okay. >> You write phonetically.
01:02:26
>> All right. What do we got? >> I am not as confident in this as I want
01:02:29
to be. >> Oh my goodness. >> I'm not I'm not using your answer.
01:02:32
>> I'm not using it. I But I think you say read receipts. >> David is incorrect.
01:02:38
>> What happened to you? What happened? It's red. >> I thought you said read.
01:02:42
>> No, I said red. Read receipts. Okay. >> OH, I >> And you saved. That's why I didn't use
01:02:48
the confidence. That's why I didn't use it. >> We had to lock in Mark.
01:02:51
>> I forgot. >> It's okay. >> Damn. That's my fault. >> It's okay.
01:02:54
>> Well, I'm correct, so it's fine. >> Ry, I think you should use your
01:02:58
confidence boost here. >> Do we each get one? >> Yeah. >> Oh, >> I think you should.
01:03:02
>> I didn't know that. I thought it was one per team. >> No, every player gets one.
01:03:04
>> We got a lot. >> I mean, if you feel confident. >> I mean, there's only one right answer.
01:03:08
>> There is only one right answer. >> There's no debate. >> And I think we're in agreement.
01:03:11
>> Agree with you. So, I think you should use it. >> And it's >> There's a lot of talking.
01:03:14
>> Are you using the confidence boost or not? >> I'm going to use the confidence boost on
01:03:17
>> Oh, snap. >> Read receipts. >> What the? >> There's only one. Who says red receipts,
01:03:24
>> bro? Okay. Listen to me. Listen to me, Mariah. >> What? >> Listen to me. Okay. A receipt, right?
01:03:32
>> A receipt means the other person has seen it. Correct. >> A receipt in
01:03:38
>> that means that they have read your message. >> Yeah. A receipt is inherently a token
01:03:43
generated by an action in the past. >> I don't want to hear it. I don't want to
01:03:47
hear it. >> It's read. >> It's read receipts. It's read.
01:03:50
>> Give me your logic. >> Did you read it? >> No. >> There's a receipt.
01:03:54
>> They read it because you got the receipt. >> So, is this team red and team read?
01:03:58
>> You are the one that got the receipt and they read your message. >> You would never re You would never say
01:04:02
like this is a receipt of something I buy. You would say this is a receipt of something I bought because you did it in
01:04:07
the past. Yeah, >> this receipt, >> it's a receipt, which is something that
01:04:10
happened before. >> This receipt is a token of them having read my message.
01:04:15
>> But for some reason, the phrasing read receipt, cuz we never say like grocery
01:04:19
receipt or or tax receipt or whatever. We we use it's just a unique phrase of
01:04:23
read receipt, like we just happen to use these words next to each other in this way. No.
01:04:27
>> And for whatever reason, it's read receipt. Read receipt doesn't
01:04:31
>> just doesn't work. >> They read it. >> They read it. >> Yeah. So, you'd say they read it and
01:04:34
they got a read receipt when they read it. You No, you got a red receipt when they read it. You say
01:04:39
>> read receipt. >> Read receipt. You do not get a receipt of your own message.
01:04:44
>> This ised up. >> I got a Why would you do this? >> I get the receipt.
01:04:48
>> David, when do I get the receipt? When they read your message, when they read
01:04:52
my message, I miss >> because they have so read receipt, but they have read it by the time you get
01:04:56
the receipt. No, when they read it, I get a receipt. Read receipt. No, it's their read receipt, but it's your red
01:05:03
receipt. How about that? >> What's the next question? >> We need to move on. This is
01:05:08
disappointing. >> We've already done this debate many times on this podcast.
01:05:11
>> Yeah, that's tough. This >> is your fault. >> You threw a head fake completely wrong
01:05:17
direction. >> That's great. I love it. >> All that talking worked out in Marquez's
01:05:20
favor. >> Yeah. >> All right. >> Yeah. >> Next question. I'll go a little easier
01:05:25
this time. >> Okay. >> It's right. >> Okay. >> It is right.
01:05:29
>> You can be wrong. It's fine. >> Ellis and I are right. >> It's okay to be wrong. If your partner
01:05:34
could only use one phone for the rest of their life, what would it be? Assume the
01:05:39
phone is in working condition forever. >> How specific do I need to be? Like one
01:05:42
phone at all. >> One phone. I I need model. Yeah. It doesn't need to be like the gigabyte
01:05:47
storage, you know, like whatever. But >> like phone one phone person >> that will work forever. It's a one phone
01:05:54
person. >> Oh my god. >> But they can't switch off of that phone.
01:05:58
What would it be? >> That's That's kind of tough. >> Oh, it's for me.
01:06:02
>> It's my phone. your phone. >> Yep. >> So, Oh, yeah. >> You need to guess, David.
01:06:06
>> I'm guessing. Yeah. >> Yeah. Okay, >> Ellis. I don't
01:06:10
>> I don't know. >> Okay, I'm going to guess the S26 Ultra. >> Why would you guess that?
01:06:24
>> Really? That's like I don't know. >> Really? >> Not anymore.
01:06:31
>> No. OnePlus 15 >> iPhone 17 Pro. >> Just give me the big one. That'll get a
01:06:37
ton of years of software updates. >> Oh, you thought way too practical. >> I for you. I would have put HTC 1 M8.
01:06:43
Like this is the phone that I can use forever. >> That's a different question. That's a
01:06:45
different question. >> One phone that you can use forever. Doesn't like assume it's working
01:06:49
forever. Perfectly functioning, perfectly, you know. >> Oh, a hypothetical phone that will work
01:06:53
forever. >> S26 Ultra. M >> no, I I mean I would probably use like an older like a from past, but it's just
01:07:02
because you were always switching back to both the S24 and the S25 Ultras, >> but notably not the S26 Ultra. So why
01:07:09
would you know that? >> I know that. But I >> This is the first year he's like mating
01:07:15
a OnePlus. >> Damn. >> Yeah, >> we tried. >> Yep. Good. >> But you didn't like the camera on the
01:07:20
OnePlus, right? >> Not really. >> Yeah. So that's why I was >> Yeah, but that's why he has an iPhone
01:07:23
air for that awesome single camera. >> Yeah. What are you even doing for photography?
01:07:26
>> An Opaind X9 Ultra. >> You have three phones with you now? >> Yes.
01:07:30
>> What? When did this happen? >> I have a backpack for that. >> Wait, but don't you have the Hustle
01:07:34
Blood in a backpack? >> Not all the time. >> That thing is heavy as hell.
01:07:38
>> Use the hustle. >> Marquez, have you seen those harmony outside? Do you
01:07:41
>> do you know the harmonica vests? >> Kind of >> like if you if you're really serious
01:07:46
about harmonica, you have one in every key. It's you you wear a vest and you
01:07:49
keep I think we might You're getting close to phone vest. I got the iPhone air pocket, the X9 Ultra Pocket.
01:07:55
>> Michael Fisher used to have one of those, like a little >> dual chest strap thing. I could do that.
01:08:00
I could rock that. >> Yeah. Okay. Anyway, Ellis Mariah. >> The first thing I have to deduce is
01:08:04
whether or not you answered this question realistically or fancifully and went with like a like a feature phone
01:08:10
that is somehow like miraculously working on modern or if you went, you know, the realistic answer.
01:08:15
>> I'm curious what Mariah would say. >> I think I kind of panicked. I'm not
01:08:19
going to lie. >> I think I know. I think I >> I'm going to >> Marz doesn't like my answer.
01:08:26
>> Yeah, I'm going to assume that means you went realistic and if you panicked, it
01:08:29
means you went with something reliable. So, I'm going to say that you went with your classic coral
01:08:38
Pixel 6. >> That's my guess. >> That would be the safe answer and
01:08:42
probably a more rational choice than I need >> than the Pixel 3a. >> Why would you 3A?
01:08:48
>> The 3A. >> That's so specific. cuz I had the Pixel Pixel 3a and it was the nostalgia. I
01:08:54
missed the back. Didn't have the fingerprint on the back. >> Yeah, it did. That's a good
01:08:58
>> small the teal power button, right? Is that the one? >> No, that's the two.
01:09:03
>> Didn't have different um >> The 3A I don't think had that. The four
01:09:07
the four >> I'm remembering. The two >> the 4A had >> the three
01:09:11
>> 4A came in in a pink color or orange color. We had a big >> The four did. The four came in this the
01:09:18
not the 4A. It was purely >> 4A came in four. Yeah, that's what I'm
01:09:22
saying. >> Oh, yeah. Yeah, like salmon. >> Yeah, salmon. >> It was just small. It's portable.
01:09:26
>> It's not small. >> And it was affordable. >> The the 3A was bigger than the 3.
01:09:32
>> Well, 3 XL, I think, was bigger. No, but no, the 3A was bigger than the 3.
01:09:36
>> Maybe my memory doesn't serve me well. >> Yeah, it was annoyingly big. The
01:09:40
nostalgia glasses. >> These are all big, which is annoying. >> Yeah, it was a terrible answer.
01:09:43
>> No, I just find it hilarious that you chose an A series phone like was going
01:09:46
to get that. >> Yeah. All right, we got to lock back in. >> Locky. Lock back in.
01:09:50
>> Locked back in. >> Stay locked out. Please >> stay locked. >> We're locked out. We got to lock in.
01:09:54
>> Well, one point ahead, but with no bonuses. >> No, two points ahead.
01:09:58
>> Two points ahead, but no bonus. We both have our bonuses. >> They both have their bonuses. Okay,
01:10:02
>> next question. Window seat or aisle seat? >> Like what would Marquette Oh, would I
01:10:07
do? >> Yes. >> Oh, yeah. >> Well, look how fun the buttons on the
01:10:10
Pixel 3a are. >> Oh, no. I'm actually No, that's valid. I was picturing this accent. You do book
01:10:16
my flights, Marquez. >> Well, Harper does. >> I know. Which is crazy because I have
01:10:20
logic for why you would say both. >> Oh, yeah. >> I know the answer.
01:10:24
>> I think I know the answer. >> Yeah. >> This is another 50/50 split
01:10:28
>> because of of booking in the past, >> right? >> Because of >> I'm going use my
01:10:35
>> This is I'm not going to say >> I can't use it yet. I can't use it yet.
01:10:40
I can't use my confidence yet. Okay. My logic is David's bringing his camera.
01:10:46
He's definitely going to want a window seat to take pictures out the plane window. However,
01:10:52
I think I'm the only one who prefers a window seat when I've booked people in
01:10:56
the studio. They either say, "Give me an aisle or I don't care." So, I think
01:11:00
David is one of the aisle people. >> That's your official guess. >> Yeah.
01:11:05
>> God, I'm always >> always window this question. >> Yeah, cuz I love you preferred window.
01:11:11
Always. Always. >> The only reason I say I don't care is so that other people can get Windows C. I
01:11:16
think we're all Windows C people. >> Is this about when we're flying for
01:11:21
I don't want to ask this question cuz it makes me sound like an >> Is this about business class or economy
01:11:25
class? >> Wow. You rich. >> I know. I know. I didn't want to. It
01:11:30
does matter. That drastically Yes, that changes my answer. >> That's true. Yeah, that's a big
01:11:34
difference. >> So So what is it >> for me? It doesn't matter. >> Well, what' you put down?
01:11:37
>> I put down >> I can't say a different answer. Oh, interesting. No, that I I put down
01:11:42
economy cuz I'm a man of the people. >> In which case you prefer >> one thing, but
01:11:48
>> Yeah. Yeah. >> But >> 100%. >> Okay. I think that helps me know what
01:11:52
you said. >> Yeah. >> Well, doesn't matter what you say. >> Okay. Well, with my deductive reasoning
01:11:58
>> and my 5050% chance of getting it, right? >> Um I do know on United that the aisle
01:12:04
seat has smaller footroom. >> What? Really? >> Yeah. or like when you're putting your
01:12:10
backpack under. Actually, the backpack room is smaller than the window seat, which is
01:12:15
>> the heat rails. >> But I do know you're a man of long legs. >> And so
01:12:19
>> my legs the long way. >> That does make me feel like you would prefer more space.
01:12:25
>> Mhm. >> You like a view, but I feel like you value being closer to the snacks, which
01:12:29
makes me feel like >> this is the most like llm. >> No, wait. You like a view, but you also
01:12:38
prefer >> I cannot answer this question. >> And I feel like you are an aisle seat.
01:12:43
>> You nailed it, Mariah. Also, and now Soundboard 2.0 has a long way button. If
01:12:50
you go to page one, >> waveform podcast, the long way. >> Nice. >> Okay, we got to lock in.
01:12:59
>> Damn, we got to use our doubles if >> we never mentioned we updated the
01:13:02
soundboard. You guys have been asking for weeks. >> True. >> There's a lot of new stuff on here. A
01:13:05
lot of new sounds. >> We're trickling them out. Yeah. >> Nice. >> All right. They'll be rolling out over
01:13:10
the upcoming weeks. >> Lock in. Lock in. We need this three-pointer right now.
01:13:13
>> Two three pointers. >> We need this tray. >> Try >> trip. Let's We need this trip.
01:13:20
>> Yep. >> Triple double flip. >> Your partner is making a list of specs
01:13:24
in a Google doc. >> Okay. >> Are they using dashes or bullet points?
01:13:29
>> Oh, no. >> What kind of question is this? >> No, dude. It's
01:13:33
>> designed to make you fight, >> dude. Andrew and I >> Wait up. Don't give too much away.
01:13:39
>> That's true. I can't say. >> Well, no, but Marquez is the one that's
01:13:44
I'm guessing him, so it doesn't matter. >> Doesn't matter what I put.
01:13:48
>> Okay. >> Andrew and I kind of co-write the podcast together and I use bullet points
01:13:53
and he uses dashes and it's infuriating and I'm sure it's also infuriating for
01:13:58
him that I that I >> What's getting this argument? >> I love the bullet points.
01:14:03
>> Why? I don't know, man. >> I have a real big brain answer for this.
01:14:07
>> I have a small brain answer, and it proves that I'm right. >> That's also the big brain answer,
01:14:11
surprisingly. >> All right, Flip Marie, what do we got? >> Smooth out your brain.
01:14:14
>> Wait, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Don't, don't do that. >> Wait, we're not ready yet. We guessed.
01:14:18
>> We haven't guessed yet. >> You're right. I'm in trivia mode.
01:14:21
>> Yeah, I know. Like, do not flip and read. >> All right. Should I trip it right now?
01:14:25
Should I trip this? It is 50/50. >> Triple double. >> It might be worth tripping.
01:14:30
>> I'm going to trip it. >> Trip. I'm tripping for uh bullets.
01:14:35
Marquez, >> thank you. Marquez dashes for me, dog. Dashes. >> He literally just said he uses bullets.
01:14:48
>> No, no, I use bullets. Marquez. Andrew uses dashes. >> Oh, I see.
01:14:53
>> Where do you think you got that from? >> Daddy. >> Ellis, you're up. Yeah, I'm just trying
01:15:00
to think if I've we've definitely collabed on a Google doc before. I just
01:15:03
can't remember what you do, but I'm I believe so strongly that one of these is
01:15:08
the right answer. And I believe that answer is dashes, which is why I'm going
01:15:12
to say, Mariah, you're probably a bullet point person. Let's go. >> Nice.
01:15:17
>> I knew if I went with my gut, I'd be wrong. >> I should have known that, too.
01:15:21
>> I like dashes because you don't need to click the mouse. >> That's true. That's true.
01:15:25
>> You don't need to click the mouse. If you just hit the dash button on a on a
01:15:29
new line and then hit space, it it goes into formatting. Whereas >> But it turns it into a bullet.
01:15:33
>> No, it turns into >> I think that's if you hit enter, it turns it into a bullet.
01:15:36
>> No, it never it never turns it into a bullet. >> I do it all the time.
01:15:38
>> I never >> Wait, so you do use bullets? >> No, I I hit a dash and hit space and it
01:15:43
makes it a bullet. >> In bullets. >> Maybe it's not Google Docs. Use bullets.
01:15:47
>> So in Apple Notes, I can say with 100% certainty it's dashes. >> Yeah, but it's Apple Notes.
01:15:52
>> Tic tac. I know makes it bullets, but maybe >> the question was Google Docs. Yeah, it
01:15:56
was about Google Docs. >> I think in Google Docs it's also dash >> either. What do you think happens? Let
01:16:00
me test it out right now. >> So if you hit create a new line. Yeah. >> Create a new line.
01:16:05
>> Hit dash and then hit space. And then it should indent it. >> It stays a dash.
01:16:10
>> Let's go. >> But it indents it. >> Yeah, >> it indents it, but it stays a dash.
01:16:15
>> But I think you might be thinking of tick tick. >> Yeah, there's a couple apps that treat
01:16:18
it differently. Damn. >> Yeah. >> Wow. Another zero. >> I'm sorry. How many points we got right
01:16:22
now? >> Six points. All right, Marquez, you got to you got to use your trip on me.
01:16:27
>> I do. I do. >> You got to know what I'm thinking. >> Yeah, I'm trying to
01:16:31
>> lock in. >> I'm locking in. >> Lock in. >> Yeah. >> Okay. All right.
01:16:34
>> Are we ready? >> Mhm. >> If they had to use one kind of phone for
01:16:38
the next year, would it fold or flip? >> Me? >> You got to pick one.
01:16:50
>> Oh god. >> Sorry. For the next one year. >> For the next year. Just a year.
01:16:55
>> Okay. >> No. >> No. >> It's terrible. >> No, it's okay. I'm the sound guy.
01:17:02
>> Okay. I got one. I think I got one. >> I'm nervous. >> My eraser looks like pig pen from the
01:17:10
peanuts. My board does because of the lack of quality of my eraser. >> I'm nervous.
01:17:14
>> I think Maria should go first. >> Mariah, what I put? >> I feel like it's the opposite of what I
01:17:20
would do. >> It is. You don't even know what I'm going to say. >> I do know what you're going to say. I do
01:17:24
know what you're going to say. Can't tell you yes or no. >> I have tiny pockets, so I'd want the
01:17:27
flip. So, I feel like you want the fold. >> Exactly. Cuz I love That was really
01:17:30
loud. I'm sorry about that. I love performatively reading. And there's nothing better than on a folding.
01:17:36
>> It's like a book, but not >> when you have the f a folding phone
01:17:38
folded out and you're able to have two columns of text. It actually is like a
01:17:42
game changer. >> And it says, "Look at me." >> Yep. >> Yeah.
01:17:44
>> Look at me. >> Mhm. Not quite as much as a book. I'm reading.
01:17:48
>> I'm better than you. >> I don't want to use my copy. Even in your fantasy, you have sixers
01:17:55
going to the game seven. >> I be careful >> because that's >> I'm like 78% sure.
01:18:02
>> Okay. >> Of this one. >> 78, not 67. >> But unfortunately, that means 22%
01:18:08
unsure, which is like one for five. >> Yeah. >> And I don't I think you would want to
01:18:13
max out >> and get a fold. It's one year. You could you could edit photos. You could use Yeah, I would
01:18:23
I'm gonna go with fold. >> Fold. Okay, >> let's go. >> Nice.
01:18:27
>> I didn't use a confidence. >> You did not use a confidence. >> Yeah,
01:18:31
>> I wasn't confident. >> Yeah, I haven't used a flip a flip since
01:18:35
the first Z flip. >> They're fun. >> Yeah, the flip seven's fantastic.
01:18:39
>> The new ones are great. >> Yeah, I should try one of the new ones.
01:18:41
It's been a while. >> Okay, next question. >> Yeah, we didn't fall behind.
01:18:45
>> Did not fall behind. No, >> we need to he hit a huge three to cut
01:18:48
the lead. >> Huge trip. Huge trip. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. What is one thing that your
01:18:54
partner actually uses AI for? >> Go. >> Oh, I don't >> um editing his videos.
01:19:04
>> I've answered this on podcast already. >> Am I allowed to guess?
01:19:07
>> Nothing. >> Sure. Yeah, that's enough. That's >> I wish I could use my trip right now cuz
01:19:11
I know this. >> Damn. Wait, why can't you use your trip? >> Cuz I already used Dread already.
01:19:21
>> I think I know this. I might not. >> No. >> Oh, wait. What did I I guess I didn't
01:19:30
have to write it down. Okay. I wrote Well, I I'm saying brainstorming. >> Marquez.
01:19:37
>> That is Does that count? >> The second thing I use it for. But >> the number one thing I use it for use it
01:19:43
for emails. Yeah, you guys all looked at me like I had my head chopped off. >> Um,
01:19:48
>> I hate when I get an email that was clearly written by AI. >> That's why I make it unclear.
01:19:53
>> Keep them guessing. >> Yeah, >> honestly, all of the emails.
01:19:57
>> Damn. >> AI talking to AI anymore. >> At least I didn't use my trip. You know
01:20:00
what I'm saying? >> Yeah. >> True. >> Yeah. >> Mariah, you're not wrong. That's also
01:20:06
what Yeah. >> My first instinct, Mariah, is that you wrote You don't use it for anything. But
01:20:11
I do know of one thing that you used it you use it for occasionally and I just don't know if you put it or not because
01:20:17
it's so infrequent which is when you had a pixel editing photos to make them
01:20:23
funny in Slack. Like you did the one of you touching the ceiling and jumping really high.
01:20:29
>> Oh yeah. >> Um >> that was funny. >> But I don't think you did that. I think
01:20:33
you wrote nothing. >> I think nothing was my default. But then I realized I actually do use it mainly
01:20:43
to >> compile lists. So I'll feed it like an image that I want it to turn into a list
01:20:49
or a receipt and I want it to break it down >> and that's all I really
01:20:54
>> Wait, that's actually a really smart use case. >> Yeah, I'm not going to do the math. I
01:20:57
don't figure it out. >> It's valid. >> Otherwise, nothing. >> Okay, sick.
01:21:02
>> Well, score is still seven to three. Go. >> Lock in. Lock in. >> Who has their trips left?
01:21:08
>> Only Marquez. Just me. I guess I got to use it soon. >> Okay. >> How many questions are left?
01:21:12
>> Um, I have >> enough for us to win. >> I have five questions left, but
01:21:17
>> enough. >> AI has like 30 pulled up. So, >> okay, David. >> Yeah, I'm ready.
01:21:21
>> Lock. >> Locked the >> I'm in. Locked and loaded. >> Speaking of locking in, great segue.
01:21:28
What is one sign that your partner is locked in and in the zone and should not be bothered?
01:21:34
>> Me. >> So, y'all are they're answering. I I already forgot who was writing
01:21:40
>> who just >> a sign. Okay. Yeah, I think that's a pretty clear one.
01:21:43
>> Okay. Trying to think if there's any others. >> Quick reminder, the only one with a trip
01:21:51
is Marquez. I think I'm going to use it. >> Really? >> Damn, David. I think this trip thing
01:21:56
might stick. I'm going to start calling him that. >> Mike baby with the trip.
01:22:01
>> Yeah, why not? >> Sure. >> Also still writing. Sorry, I I I I wrote
01:22:08
tried to write a letter, but it looked like another letter and I didn't want
01:22:10
the the viewers to laugh at me. >> They're going to do that anyway. >> They they and I welcome it, man.
01:22:16
>> I'm wearing a blue dog on my head like >> this is not. >> All right.
01:22:22
>> Should I go first? >> Yeah. >> You're using >> I'm using my I'm using my confidence.
01:22:26
>> Oh, snap. >> My three. >> Okay. >> Using the trip. >> I think when David's locked in, he's got
01:22:30
his AirPods in. Don't interrupt what he's doing. He's He's in the zone. Okay,
01:22:36
>> let's just live my AirPods in. >> He's got headphones on somehow. Yeah,
01:22:40
>> David. >> Uh, does this count? I can't hear you. >> The does that mean?
01:22:46
>> What do you mean by that? >> Okay. You know when Okay. It's like when
01:22:50
I'm locked in, right? I'm like I'm working on something and I'm thinking
01:22:54
really hard and someone's like, "Hey, David, David, David." And I can't hear
01:22:57
them because you have these headphones. >> Well, some sometimes you cuz you have
01:23:04
headphones. partner is like, "No, >> I can't hear you cuz I have headphones
01:23:08
on." >> Yeah, >> I feel like that's close enough. I think that's fair.
01:23:12
>> He's got metaphorical headphones on. >> Yeah, brain headphones.
01:23:14
>> Where's your competitive spirit? >> For the sake of the game,
01:23:17
>> I'll give it to him. >> Yeah, >> that's nice. That's nice.
01:23:19
>> That was the most roundabout way of saying that, though. >> Now it's 6 to 7.
01:23:23
>> Ah, you better get this right after after selling our team out like that.
01:23:29
>> I think if you're at work here >> Mhm. I think the door is closed.
01:23:35
>> Boom, baby. Let's go. >> That's like the most obvious. >> That seems like that seemed like an
01:23:40
Ellis question. >> Yeah. >> Give me some little reverb right now. >> LET'S GO.
01:23:48
>> NICE. I actually thought that that was a long time. >> Like Ellis's answer was obviously if
01:23:53
he's like in audio room, door closed, whatever. I thought the obvious other answer was you're wearing headphones. So
01:23:58
I was like this will be an easy point. >> Yeah. But I you both got it. I wear headphones all the time.
01:24:06
>> Like I wear headphones like 80% of my waking life. >> Wait, was that was that Marquez's
01:24:10
confidence answer? >> That was >> Oh my god. >> Yeah. So now it's 8 to
01:24:14
>> He got it right. He got it right though. >> It's okay. We're still winning.
01:24:16
>> Yeah, you're winning by two. >> By two. >> All right. >> All right.
01:24:19
>> All right. >> The score is 8 to six. >> How many more questions do you guys
01:24:22
want? >> Enough for us to win. >> So three. >> Three more questions.
01:24:26
>> Three more questions. >> All right. Three more questions. >> If you miss one, it's game over.
01:24:31
>> Yeah. Correct. >> Can't miss. It's a game winning three. >> Yeah, we got to get the perfect score.
01:24:35
Lock the >> gamewinning trip. >> Lock in. Gamewinning trip. >> Mike Bibby.
01:24:40
>> Mike Bby. >> As they say in the league. Bibby style. >> Bibby style.
01:24:44
>> Bibby style. All right. Baby bubblehead. >> Do you think Mike Bibby listens to this
01:24:47
podcast? >> God, I hope so cuz >> he used to be one of my favorite players.
01:24:51
>> Yeah, he's lit. >> Yeah, >> just like Slavakovich or whatever his
01:24:54
name. >> Stoyakovich. >> Nice. Nice. Look at you, David. I'm so proud of you.
01:24:58
>> Hey, man. I was I was living ball. >> I live near Sacramento. >> Near.
01:25:04
>> All right. >> Yeah. I don't know. >> What is the screen time on your
01:25:07
partner's phone right now? >> Uh >> screen for the day. >> Delta. Close to going over.
01:25:12
>> We'll do Delta with this one. >> Which phone? >> What would you consider as your primary
01:25:18
phone? >> The OnePlus 15. >> I have one. I have one. >> One more question. Is it listed as a
01:25:22
decimal? Like >> point blank hours? >> Hours and 15. Hours and minutes. hours
01:25:27
and >> hours and 15. >> It listed an hour and 15 minute increments. >> In my head, I was just picturing like 8
01:25:36
hours and 15 minutes, so I said 15. >> Clearly time today. >> Screen time today.
01:25:42
>> Oh, thus far today. >> Like thus far today. Yeah. >> Did he?
01:25:46
>> Mind you, what time is it? Is it >> uh >> It is now 12:53 in the
01:25:50
>> 3 p.m. Okay. >> All right. I'm going to guess 1 hour 15 minutes. 1 hour and 15
01:25:56
minutes, Marquez. >> I think you're under. >> 13 minutes off. >> Oh, no.
01:26:01
>> Marquez put 1 hour and 28 minutes. So, you're 13 minutes off. >> Very close.
01:26:06
>> That's about as close as I think you're going to be. >> Can Mariah
01:26:09
>> and Ellis beat this? >> I'm going to try to live my day in the
01:26:12
world of Mariah. >> It take a while, right? I think >> it's like 12:54. Mariah's like 12 hours
01:26:18
54. >> Yeah. I think Mariah wakes up unbelievably early due to the horrors.
01:26:25
>> I think Mariah is confronted by the horrors. >> It's a fair guess.
01:26:28
>> The screams. >> Yeah. Almost immediately. And resolves this by going on her phone. I think this
01:26:35
begins at approximately 10:00 a.m. >> That's when work starts. >> Mariah, I think thus far today
01:26:46
mean it's like 25. Does does driving apps count as screen on time? Yeah, >> it does.
01:26:51
>> It does. >> It takes into account. >> CarPlay, however, does not.
01:26:54
>> I think you've used your phone for two hours. Oh man, I'm already wrong. 2
01:27:01
hours and 27 minutes. >> Okay, so I have to preface this with I have switched to the S24 Ultra. It does fun
01:27:12
things. Fun things that punish you. And that means that when you plug in your phone, you can have it show little
01:27:18
picture slideshows. How cute. When you plug it in overnight, it counts that as screen time. Um, so
01:27:26
>> really does. And so I'll wake up and it'll say 10 hours of screen time. I'm like,
01:27:31
that's crazy. I've been unconscious. Um, and so today it decided that I have had
01:27:36
5 hours in 9 minutes of screen time. >> Wow. >> Which means it didn't even show pictures
01:27:42
all night long. So, what's the point? >> I think we should You should be a
01:27:46
professional phone reviewer, Moran. You're actually finding the the crazy >> This was a huge problem.
01:27:52
>> Well, that point goes to Marquez and Dave. >> Sorry. We were doomed from this.
01:27:59
>> We only need two more points and we need two more points. >> We just need to miss a one question. It
01:28:03
>> is not enough. >> It is not enough that we need to make one. We need them to tie.
01:28:07
>> I know. >> In which case, >> there's >> We got a shot.
01:28:10
>> Oh my god. It's game seven. >> Oh, I've been here before. Game seven.
01:28:15
>> All right. >> Yeah. It said on uh Sunday I had 11 and a half hours of screen time.
01:28:19
>> Damn. >> And half of that's from the Google Photos. >> 11 and a half hours.
01:28:22
>> Wow, that's a lot. >> That's wild. Okay, next question for the tie or to pull away.
01:28:30
How many unread emails are in your partner's main inbox right now? >> Marquez's.
01:28:35
>> Yep. >> Oh, no. It's yours. >> It's mine. >> You're talking about like personal
01:28:39
email. >> We just answered. or work email. >> How many emails are your inbox? I
01:28:44
>> my main email. >> Main. >> Yeah, exactly. >> Unread emails
01:28:47
>> cuz I know David has like the all inbox features with a thousand. Yeah, you're
01:28:51
supposed to look. Yeah, >> bye. You mean my like my professional one, right?
01:28:54
>> It just says main. It doesn't tell. Main isn't professional. Not like my high
01:28:59
school I use for spam, right? >> On desktop. I think you can see the full number.
01:29:03
>> I'm just going to go by the number that's on my iOS icon. Red. >> Okay. Yeah. Wait, should I do that, too?
01:29:10
>> Sure. >> But that's also got my spam email in it. >> Okay, fine. Screw it. Let's do that.
01:29:14
>> Should we do it? >> Yeah, why not? >> Just do Just do the number on your home
01:29:16
screen. >> Let's do it all. >> All right. It's really important.
01:29:18
>> Is this clo Is this >> We'll do delta with this one. We'll do
01:29:22
delta. No, wait. That's going to be crazy. Okay. Closest without going over.
01:29:25
I don't want to do math. >> Yeah. >> Closest without going over.
01:29:27
>> Okay. Closest without going over. I >> feel like you have commas in your
01:29:31
number. >> Okay. >> Oh man. We're the worst. >> We are the worst.
01:29:42
>> Holy >> To be fair, I I really try to to make this better every week and it never gets
01:29:47
better. >> It doesn't matter. It compounds. >> It does. It's okay.
01:29:52
>> Go first. >> I These numbers are terrible. >> They're going to be atrocious.
01:29:59
>> Is this like your oldest email you've >> This is like the Gmail icon on your home
01:30:04
screen. So, it accounts for all of your emails. Oh, it like compounds all of this,
01:30:07
>> I think. So, yeah. >> Um, >> this number is in the thousands.
01:30:13
>> This is thousands of emails. >> I can't speak. I'm not going to make any
01:30:16
faces. I just want you to dig deep into your heart and give me the perfect number. Mariah,
01:30:20
>> I think this has to be >> But don't go over. >> Yeah. >> At least
01:30:29
I'm going to say a round number. 10,000. >> Okay. 10,000. Mariah, goed answer. Oh crap. What's the answer?
01:30:37
>> The answer is 10,097. >> That's so >> How many emails like accounts do you
01:30:41
have? >> I think I have four. >> This is closest with going over but not
01:30:45
delta, right? >> Yeah. >> I have to get within 97 of your number without going over
01:30:48
>> or the game is over. >> No pressure, Marquez. >> This is you're we're asking you to make
01:30:53
a double coverage logo three. It's dame time. >> And David's without question a
01:30:58
ridiculous number. >> But how ridiculous? >> It's more than that if I had to guess.
01:31:03
>> I do think so. They did sit next to each other for a long time. >> For sure. A comma in there.
01:31:08
>> David asked about >> Oh, true. >> the icon and the spam email and all
01:31:12
kinds of other stuff. >> So, I'm going with like a almost an Olivia like number here.
01:31:19
>> I think you have like Let's go with 34,6. >> Can it go that high?
01:31:28
>> We're about to find out. >> No, I have 11, >> 927. That means
01:31:35
>> Marion Ellis win the game. >> All right. >> Oh my god. >> Well played. Wow. That was good.
01:31:43
>> That's an incredible snipe, 10,000 emails. That was really good. That was
01:31:46
crazy. >> It feels appropriate. >> You know how they say if you have 10,000
01:31:50
hours in something, you're a master. >> Ellis is a master. >> How many unread emails do you think I
01:31:54
have right now? >> Um, I don't know. Like one. >> Yeah, I was I was excited to guess for
01:31:59
you cuz it's probably one or two. >> It's zero. During it'll be how many I
01:32:03
got during the >> clearing it during the podcast. >> 18 as we've sat here.
01:32:08
>> If I got to guess from Marquez, it would have been incredible. >> We would have gotten a point.
01:32:12
>> Four, five, six. >> But yeah, there's really no no knowing how many emotions
01:32:20
together, bro. >> Just sitting here. Yeah, >> that's crazy. >> Not bad.
01:32:24
>> All right. Well, >> we're going to take it to ad break while Mariah and I high five a few times and
01:32:30
then um we'll be back. >> Well, we got to do trivia questions, right? >> Oh my god, I forgot.
01:32:34
>> Oh, yeah. >> Do we do them from here? >> Uh yeah, because I have my question
01:32:37
memorized cuz I'm a freaking He's a Bast with a trivia question. >> I love that.
01:32:47
>> That might be my favorite one. >> That's so good, >> guys.
01:32:50
>> Yeah, guys. Yep. >> We're all excited for the Pixelbook Glow because it has lights on the outside.
01:32:58
>> That's right. >> But I don't know if you remember back in
01:33:00
the day, MacBook also had some lights on the outside. >> Talked about it last week.
01:33:04
>> Real dorks will remember. >> Mhm. >> The light on the outside of the MacBook
01:33:10
that glowing logo was not actually a dedicated component. What component already present in the laptop was used
01:33:17
to illuminate the logo? >> No, that's a good trick question. >> Thank you. Cool. Um, Grock, context,
01:33:24
please. >> Oh, Mariah, you will be answering for Andrew. Yes. This week. >> I'm so sorry, Andrew.
01:33:30
>> What's it called in the Hunger Games when they're like >> tribute?
01:33:34
>> Is that what No, maybe I'm thinking of someone else. When When you have to go
01:33:37
You're champion. You are Andrew's champion. How did I get the Hunger Games
01:33:40
and Dune next? >> Same vibe. >> Hit the boo button. >> Nice. >> Well, the answers will be at the end
01:33:46
like usual. We'll be right back. Welcome back. Um, there's a post on our
01:34:00
subreddit that I want to address. >> No, David, >> it says Okay, there's a post that says,
01:34:06
>> uh, which people do you think hate each other on waveform? We all love each
01:34:10
other, guys. >> Yeah, it's not like that. >> Like I like the post said that Ellis and
01:34:15
I hate each other, which is crazy. Yeah, >> cuz I would we would kiss in the Vision
01:34:20
Pro if we could. We only have one. >> Literally, every Wednesday, Dave and I
01:34:24
get Chinese food for breakfast together and drive to work. It's It's not like
01:34:27
that. >> Shut up. >> So, I just wanted to say that everyone here loves each other deeply. It's good.
01:34:33
It's very good. >> Oh my god. >> Exactly. Adam loves that new button.
01:34:37
>> So good. >> You got to chill with that button. >> Yeah. So, yeah, there wasn't a lot of
01:34:43
news this week. >> Yes. But people did tag me in something that I had no idea what was going on.
01:34:48
And I was like, "What are you talking about?" And then I figured that I would
01:34:52
ask David here on the pod because I have him here in the pod. >> Okay. >> To talk about your picture going viral.
01:34:57
>> So I saw your tweet. >> Okay. >> Well, okay. I saw it on Twitter and
01:35:00
threads. >> Yeah. >> I first saw it quote tweeted on Twitter. So someone else tweeted it on my
01:35:06
timeline and then I saw that I'd clicked in and it had like >> 10,000 retweets or something.
01:35:12
>> Yeah. And then I saw I opened up Threads and I saw it on Threads too from you
01:35:16
this time and it had I think 8,000 likes on Threads. >> Yeah. Yeah. It's a certified banger.
01:35:21
What is the post? >> Okay. And what happened? Um >> and where were you?
01:35:25
>> I just want to ask, do you guys know what a visual metaphor is? >> No.
01:35:28
>> Yes. >> No. Not on the internet. Those don't exist. >> Can you describe a visual metaphor,
01:35:32
Marquez? Well, a simile is when you compare things using the word like. And a metaphor is when you compare things
01:35:37
without using the word like. Wow. Wow. So instead of saying this car is like a boat, I would say this car is a boat.
01:35:45
>> Anyway, a visual metaphor is comparing things visually without using any
01:35:51
>> this is kind of like this language. >> Yeah. >> Okay. >> Is that what your post was?
01:35:55
>> Okay. So, I just want to give you some Yes. Okay. So, >> sick. >> Uh, last Saturday I walked 29,000 steps
01:36:03
cuz it was a really nice day. >> Weird flex, but okay. Some >> got to let you know.
01:36:06
>> I respect it. >> I'm still in pain. So anyway, I got to my destination, but I
01:36:12
overshot it by a little bit. There was a little park there, so I sat in the park,
01:36:15
and it's classic New York beautiful like late afternoon sun setting park. Uh, in
01:36:22
New York there are these chess tables where there are tables that have like the chessboard like embedded in the
01:36:28
stone table, you know, iconic New York >> situation, right? And I was sitting there and I saw this
01:36:35
guy sitting one of his chess tables with his laptop like in his lap playing chess
01:36:41
on like a chess >> chess.com >> website. Yeah. chess.com >> like on the chess table with no one
01:36:47
across from him. And I was just like visual metaphor, >> right? >> This is the photographers's eye you've
01:36:54
trained for years. So, I used my iPhone Air at 6x zoom >> from very far away,
01:37:01
>> which looked really bad. Uh, but it's what I had on me and I took a photo. I
01:37:06
made sure to like >> David, you know what they say about the camera you have on you.
01:37:09
>> It's the worst. It's the worst. Uh, you know, I made sure to crop out any
01:37:15
identifating features about him. I only had like his hands with the laptop so you could see the screen that was the
01:37:20
chess app or the chess website with the chessboard. And I made sure to shoot it from high enough down so you could see
01:37:25
the the chessboard the on the table. Anyway, I was just like I just put it on social media. I said 2026.
01:37:33
>> Yeah. >> Because it represents the fact that we are no longer playing
01:37:40
things in front of each other, doing connection in front of each other. Now everything you do is online and you're
01:37:45
connecting with strangers that you don't really know. Right. >> Metaphors hit a lot harder when you
01:37:49
explain them. >> I mean, apparently I have to. This is what Okay, this is what
01:37:54
>> what's the beef? >> Most of their quote tweets and the replies and everything were just like,
01:37:59
well, who is he supposed to play with? There was no one on the other side. I was like, yes, that is the entire point.
01:38:07
>> Yeah, >> that's what makes it a good >> And there were people that were like,
01:38:10
don't judge, don't judge strangers. And I was like, I'm not judging him.
01:38:15
>> They're judging them. >> It's a v it's a visual metaphor for our
01:38:18
society. >> Your caption was 2026. all the it's a vis it's clearly saying like this
01:38:23
picture represents this year. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. I do see how this could be threads
01:38:28
rage bait. I'm not going to lie. >> Talk about it. >> Rage bait. Talk about it.
01:38:34
>> Some threads that are just kind of like look at this thing. >> Yeah, but I didn't say look at this guy.
01:38:39
What a loser playing chess by himself. >> You know what I mean? Like it's it's
01:38:43
something generic enough it hits a mainstream audience and then there's no nothing to guide the interpretation. So,
01:38:48
it's just open to what anyone thinks. >> I love the picture. >> The problem with all algorithmic social
01:38:54
media >> You disagree. >> Sorry. No, I want you to take I want to take
01:38:59
>> No, I disagree with Mariah. >> I think I think >> Man, I don't want to insult people.
01:39:05
>> Yeah. Look at these comments. It's almost as as if he needs another person
01:39:09
to play chess because they're they're taking a literal interpretation of it
01:39:13
>> and they're not understanding the visual metaphor. I think this screams that, you
01:39:17
know, we talk about like media literacy being in crisis. Like >> to me, this is like a slam dunk of of
01:39:23
media literacy. Like like it it could it could it's like the if we lost the ability to process like symbolism.
01:39:30
>> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> What >> like social media just flattens
01:39:34
everything to >> which to Mariah's point is the mainstream like once it hits that
01:39:38
mainstream audience you lose all of that. >> You lose nuance. >> Yeah. Yeah.
01:39:42
>> And you get like Karen from Ohio like I think >> Yeah. the other person.
01:39:46
>> But that's that's a problem. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> That's like it's like a big problem.
01:39:50
>> Yeah. >> Yeah. I'm not >> That's why it was such a beautiful post
01:39:54
>> and thank you for people tagging me telling me to talk about it. >> Yeah. It seems like it started a
01:39:58
conversation, good or bad. So, I think that's probably the most interesting part.
01:40:02
>> Well, yeah, it hit the Twitter number one, what's happening today thing.
01:40:06
Someone sent me a screenshot of that. You know what's super funny too is the
01:40:09
amount of people that like acquaintances that I have that sent me like meme compilation pages that just stole the
01:40:16
post and like removed my name. >> So I was going to say that's how I first
01:40:20
saw the picture was someone just posted your picture >> and like had a caption like this is
01:40:25
what's wrong with and I was like okay scroll right by whatever and then I saw
01:40:28
yours and I was like wait a second. >> Yeah >> this is David's picture.
01:40:31
>> Yeah. So >> he tweeted this six years ago. >> Now I know what it feels Yeah. Exactly.
01:40:35
Now, I know what it feels like to uh have someone just rip your content and make put it on meme pages and stuff,
01:40:41
>> but I've had a ton of people send me like various meme pages that just it's
01:40:45
like whatever. >> has no experience with that. >> Not at all. >> I was going to say, "Welcome to the life
01:40:49
cycle of a viral social media post. It it will be stripped of its context and redigested by every other commentator
01:40:57
and their own angle." >> Yeah. >> And there's nothing you can do about it.
01:41:01
Yeah. >> The thing about social media that I that I think sometimes are interesting. Okay.
01:41:04
I had a conversation. This is an off off camera offkilter random conversation I had with uh a YouTube engineer about
01:41:12
features that they could add or not add to YouTube. >> Okay. >> And they told me, you know, in in a few
01:41:18
words that they tend to be pretty minimal with the features that they add or don't add. And algorithmically they
01:41:23
they could make big changes, but they tend not to. And they let people's algorithms reflect them. like they could
01:41:31
choose to push certain things or or even uh remove certain things from the algorithm because it would be better for
01:41:39
society in their own judgment. But the second you make a judgment and influence it then slippery slope you you have to
01:41:45
judge a whole bunch of other things. >> There's also all the section 230
01:41:47
problems that come along with that. So his his basic stance was like YouTube is like a it's so dense with media and so
01:41:54
many people and so much stuff that it's kind of just like a mirror of society
01:41:58
and uh all the good and all the bad. >> And when a post goes viral, it's like
01:42:04
unnaturally exposing your art to the whole world. Usually it doesn't work that way. Usually you expose it to the
01:42:11
audience it's designed for and that's it. But on social media, you can sometimes expose it to the entire world,
01:42:16
which comes with all of the interesting positive interpretations and then all of
01:42:21
the random people who were never meant to see this who have all sorts of nonsensical things to say about it.
01:42:27
>> And yeah, that happens all the time. >> Yeah, >> it's kind of a bummer when
01:42:31
>> there's even like when it's stripped of there's even there's things like
01:42:34
cultural context, right? Like when when you're shown to the entire world on a
01:42:39
platform, >> all of the context is just like you're going to be shown to people who just do
01:42:44
not understand what you're trying to say or like >> the target demographic is no longer the
01:42:48
only audience of that thing. >> So I don't know. I don't even care
01:42:52
about, you know, the meme pages stealing it and stuff. I just found it funny that
01:42:55
like multiple of people that I know sent it to me. But it's more I was more frustrated by like 80% of the replies
01:43:02
and quote tweets just like a lot of them I think they did understand the visual metaphor but they were rage baiting by
01:43:09
quote tweeting and being like what a dumbass. >> Mhm. >> I just >> that's also how people get
01:43:16
>> likes themselves and hop onto the >> There was a guy that quote tweeted me
01:43:21
and he was very nice. He said, "This photo deserves a Pulitzer." >> Oo.
01:43:24
>> And his his quote tweet got like almost as many likes as the post. And then I
01:43:30
saw him post later like, "Wow, my posted numbers." I was like, "You didn't make a
01:43:33
post. You just quote tweeted my post." Like, "What the? >> Yeah.
01:43:39
>> What is social media anymore?" It's like it's just like big competition.
01:43:43
>> It's hard cuz it it makes me like kind of not want to engage and interact on
01:43:48
platforms. I I've been thinking about this so much for the last couple of years. Like I'm less and less inclined
01:43:55
to say anything on social media anymore because it feels like the incentive structures are all leaning towards
01:44:02
people having opposing opinions to you. >> Most inflammatory possible response will
01:44:07
be rewarded the most. >> Yeah. Exactly. Exactly. And so like having any opinion or posting anything,
01:44:15
people are just going to come for you. And it's like, why am I even putting this out into the world if I'm just
01:44:19
inviting people to scream at me? >> I'm going to clip that, put it on TikTok.
01:44:23
>> Good. >> Then I'm going to repost it after you do that. >> We live in the clip economy now, baby.
01:44:28
>> Yeah. >> So anyway, >> David, thank you for uh explaining that
01:44:31
to me because I had no idea what they were talking about till they tagged me in it.
01:44:35
>> Thank you for your service. >> Thank you for your service to the world.
01:44:37
>> You're welcome. >> It deserves a pulitzer. All right, on to trivia.
01:44:45
>> This is my new trivia starting gesture. >> That's also the >> the timeout gesture making a
01:44:51
>> technical foul. This is trivia. >> I was going to say like I just feels
01:44:55
like you're giving me a tech. >> Alice, >> trivia time. >> If you can call it a tech, you should be
01:45:00
able to call it a trip. Just saying. >> Got him. That's >> Yeah,
01:45:03
>> I like it. I'm on board with this trip whole situ this whole trip situation.
01:45:06
All right, question number one. Chromebook Pixel came out in 2013. >> This is Mariah's first time hearing this
01:45:13
question, so you have to answer for Andrew. >> Okay. >> What was the size of the screen closest?
01:45:18
Without going over >> of which device? >> The Chromebook Pixel that came out in
01:45:23
2013. It was a laptop. >> Pixel. >> A Chromebook. >> I wasn't born yet.
01:45:28
>> Yeah. Ellis only came on live in 2014. That wasn't the one with the light bars,
01:45:37
was it? >> It was. >> Oh, shoot. I didn't have that one. >> I had the one that folded in half that
01:45:43
like folded over itself. >> The Pixel book. >> I had the Pixel book.
01:45:48
>> No. Yeah, the Chromebook Pixel 48. >> Yep. >> The CR48. >> That was OG.
01:45:53
>> One of them. I don't know. >> Oh, but he's talking the first premium
01:45:56
one. Yes. >> Okay. >> That was matte black unbranded with a light bar. It was sick. Is that a light
01:46:02
bar? >> Or maybe not a light bar. I think the primo and a delay bar. >> Yeah.
01:46:05
>> Yeah. >> All right. Flip them and read. What do we got? >> We have a resolution.
01:46:11
>> All over the praise. >> All right. Who wants to go first? >> Uh, I wrote 12 in.
01:46:16
>> Okay. I said 14. >> Okay. >> I was thinking Chromebook size, so I
01:46:20
said like 10. >> All right. The winner. >> Wait, what about Ellis? >> No, Ellis is
01:46:26
>> What about Ellis? >> Oh, right. Right. Trivia master. I was just thinking about you, you know,
01:46:32
>> as always, >> because I because I love you. >> I love you, too.
01:46:35
>> Okay, I'm I'm teeing you up with a >> I thought it was that can't happen when
01:46:40
it's supposed to. >> It's funnier out of context. >> I have a I'm afraid that it's between 12
01:46:47
and 14. >> Wait, so what size is it? >> It is. >> Come on, baby.
01:46:53
>> 14.2. >> 12.2. >> 12.85. >> No. >> Oh, let's go. David gets the point.
01:47:01
>> Damn. >> I forgot laptops used to be smaller. >> Yeah, little babies. All right.
01:47:05
>> Counted for inflation there. Notebooks. >> Theis E e PC. >> I had one of those.
01:47:12
>> I had one of those. What? >> Wow. >> So good. >> I can't believe, you know, I put that
01:47:23
button in there. I was like, I don't think we're going to use that that much.
01:47:25
>> So good. >> All right. Guys, >> what made the logo on the back of the
01:47:35
old MacBook Pros glow? >> Close this without going over. >> The CPU.
01:47:43
>> Mhm. The CPU. >> Technically, it powered it. >> Who's to say really what does anything
01:47:49
in the computer? >> God. Um, Andrew, come back. >> It's all computer. Everything's
01:48:01
computer. Name a part of a computer. >> Everything's computer. It's beautiful.
01:48:06
>> All right. I also don't know the answer to this, so I'm going to wait. Yeah, I'm
01:48:09
going to wait on >> This is one of those perfectly structured trivia questions where I
01:48:14
don't know the answer, but because of the way it's formatted, I learned the
01:48:19
answer, and I'm pretty sure I'm right. >> Cool. >> All right. I Cool. I I thought this
01:48:23
would be more of a layup. This is hard. >> I have a guess. I just don't know.
01:48:27
>> Yeah, let's see it. >> David, you put >> I wrote the LCD.
01:48:31
>> Uh Marquez, you put >> the LCD backlight, >> right? You put
01:48:34
>> I put display, but I meant also LCD >> or God. >> I don't I need a concept here.
01:48:40
>> Display or god. I think LCD back. >> The way So the way the way an LCD screen
01:48:44
works for those who don't know is you have these these I believe they're um
01:48:50
>> emitting diodes. >> No, LCDs. So you have these you have these like liquid crystal I think
01:48:55
they're based on like quartz these structures and they they can twist right when you run current through them they
01:49:00
have the ability to twist and when they twist certain ways they can block light when they twist other ways they they
01:49:04
don't block light >> liquid crystal. >> So what you do is you put a big light
01:49:07
behind that called a backlight >> and then that each crystal will twist and untwist and that's what uh you know
01:49:13
blocks the light and creates different pixel color brightnesses whatever. Mhm. >> Um, so the way that the glowing logo in
01:49:20
those old metal MacBook Pros, if you're ancient and remember, um, what they do
01:49:25
is they just cut out the aluminum so that the backlight >> shown through. So, do should we give
01:49:32
everyone the point or just Marquette? Cuz Marquez was the only one that put backlight. But I feel like I'm the only
01:49:37
backlight. I mean, I meant >> in jeopardy they would have said, "Can you be more specific?"
01:49:41
>> I would have waited for you backlight. >> Well, if they asked me to be more spe I
01:49:44
would have said backlight. >> I hope you would have said back. Okay. Well, next time I'm going to say, can
01:49:48
you be more specific, but I think we should award three points. >> So, they all get the point.
01:49:54
>> Thank you, God. >> And >> thank you. >> Good luck, Andrew.
01:49:58
>> Good luck out there. >> I'm sorry. >> I can't believe this.
01:50:03
>> I feel like I'm the only one who should be getting a >> normally I am that strict, but I don't
01:50:09
know. I'm feeling kind of good today. Maybe I'm I'm trying to put >> But I said that it was a good question
01:50:14
because as you as you said the logo is not its own component. I said, "Oh, I
01:50:19
had no idea." And they said, "Which part of the PC illuminated it?" So I had to
01:50:23
deduce that the only reasonable answer is they used the backside of the backlight.
01:50:28
>> Exactly. It was one of those really clever Apple decisions where they discovered if we just cut the aluminum
01:50:32
like this, you could it'll glow because of the backlight until you're using it
01:50:36
outdoors in a really bright area and then there's a part of your screen with
01:50:40
lower contrast in the shape of the Apple logo. >> Damn. >> In the center. Um,
01:50:45
>> cool. >> Damn. Sweet. Okay. >> All right. >> Well, comment section, let me know if uh
01:50:51
if you disagree with that ruling >> and let me know if liquid crystals are
01:50:55
not actually based on quartz. And can somebody tell me what happens inside of a computer?
01:51:02
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