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I tweeted just a screenshot of the Google slide that just said, "Book two floor seats to this concert." And then
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in the video, the person just clicks it and then that's the end of the interaction. And they're like, "Yep,
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>> got the tickets." >> What? No, that's not how this works.
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>> Yo, what is up people of the internet? Welcome back to another episode of the
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Waveform Podcast. We're your hosts. I'm Marquez. >> I'm Adam. >> I'm Mariah. Right.
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>> Got a new setup today. This is Is this You know how when there's like a new
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Sorry, it's an NBA podcast already. You have like a new lineup that's not played
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>> in the playoffs like for the first time. The Sixers probably did this. You have a
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lineup of like a group of people who have never played at the same time together. This is like the current
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arrangement. >> Yeah. I'm supposed to be on the bench, but for some reason they put me over
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here. >> But you've been I think it's been You've been there, Mariah's here. No, David was
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here. You were there. >> Yeah. >> So, it's it's like a shuffle.
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>> Yeah. Listen, we're down by 30. It's the fourth quarter. We got to try anything.
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It's a Tuesday. It's great. Uh today we watch the Android show. So we've got all
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sorts of thoughts on all of what they've announced. We also can talk a little bit
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about the death/rebirth of Fitbit cuz that happened. >> And also we have a game that uh I have
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no idea what we're actually me, >> but there are buzzers here. >> Yeah.
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>> So it surely will be fun. >> I asked Ellis yesterday like, "Hey,
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how's how's the game coming along? Do you need me to like prep anything?" And
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he's like, "Don't worry about it." >> That makes me a little bit nervous.
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Excited, but nervous. Let's get >> Exactly. >> Uh but first, did they even test this?
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>> This is a >> I hear Ellis has one. >> Yeah, an Ellis special today.
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>> Well, now I'm like scared to do they even test this because the last time I
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did it, I was the one that did not test it and was was proven wrong. But >> I have recently switched back from Apple
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Watch to Garmin as my fitness tracker of choice. >> Oh, you're on Android now?
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>> Hey. Hey. >> Oh boy. Um I don't know. after the Android show today. But um
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>> I so I've been trying to link it with my Strava >> and uh which has just proved to be like
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a deathdeying nightmare. >> It's been a mess for so long >> and it just results in this thing where
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this like endless loop where I go into the Garmin app and try or I go into Strava the Strava app.
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>> Mhm. >> I have to be really specific here. Go into the Strava app, hit connect device,
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choose Garmin. It opens the Garmin app. The Garmin app is then like, "Okay,
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let's now connect your Strava and Garmin accounts." I'm like, "Bet." Then it goes
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to straa.com where it makes me sign in for some reason. So, I sign into my Strava
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account on straa.com and then it goes, "Great, we're in. Now, we need to go
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back to the Garmin app." And then I go back to the Garmin app and the Garmin
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app goes, "It failed." >> And I >> So, did you get in? >> No. I've done this about 50 times, like
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hoping that it goes differently. >> You're still not in? No. Oh my god.
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>> Um, so >> they were supposed to have fixed this like a few years ago. They did like a
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whole announcement post about it. Yeah. Like literally like two or three years ago. They were like,
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>> "We're now connected with Strava. You no longer have to worry about this." But I
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guess I guess it's still an issue. >> Damn. >> Yeah. >> Damn. That blows for you.
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>> Nobody tested it. >> There is one other thing that blows for me. >> Oh no.
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>> No. >> He's wearing his shirt already, >> guys. After several weeks, it's a funeral
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>> of hopeful bliss, I would say, the Philadelphia 76ers have been knocked out
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of the NBA playoffs. After an amazing first round, they were swept in four games by the New York Knicker boxers.
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I You could be sad or you could choose to revel in what an amazing year we had. We watched VJ drop 30 over and over
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again as a rookie. We watched Andre Drummond to learn how to shoot three-pointers. We watched Kyle Lowry
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say goodbye to the NBA. I think damn, >> maybe. >> We watched Nick Nurse develop complex
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systems. And most of all, we watched the greatest hero in American history, Joel
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Embiid. >> Overcome countless obstacles and ascend to basketball greatness. Philadelphia
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76ers, I love you. >> How did you time that so perfectly? Did you practice this?
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>> No. Also, for all of our uh Scandinavian/Nordic audience members who are confused why I
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used a Christmas hymn for that. Uh I just like the way it sounded and they don't know anything about that stuff. So
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nice. >> Yeah. >> Wow. >> I don't know where to go from here.
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>> I'm trying to make a broom pun to move to the next thing. I don't know if I can
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think of one. >> You know who else swept the stage? >> Ah. >> Ah, Samir.
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>> Samir from Google. Uh okay. Okay, so the Android show, the preio Android show is
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this week and we we talked a little bit about it before how they were sort of hyping up. Samir is one of the ones on
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Twitter who was like this is going to be >> one of the I think they said the biggest
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update to Android yet. >> Asterisk. >> It's a lot it's a lot of hype, a lot of
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promises. Uh, but we finally did get that promise and they gave us this wonderful 45minute video of very human
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uh, presentation and uh, a ton of new features through Android, Android Auto, through Gemini intelligence and through
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uh, some we'll talk about all of that. >> Yeah, we got to censor you saying though
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that out >> why? >> Cuz that's what they did during the event. >> They bleeped out Google Books
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>> right at the beginning. He tried to leak Google Books. >> Oh, >> and he said it and then they bleeped it
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and he was like, "Well, you can fix it in post, right?" And it was like one of
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those like Haha, I'm a person, too. Make mistakes. >> So human, Google.
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>> Um, yeah, that was great. Anyway, so let's talk about Android first, maybe.
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>> Sure. >> Cuz that was So, we're looking forward to Android updates. Android 17 is what
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the new version is going to be called. >> Um, they did the thing first of all that
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they do every time where they're like, all this stuff is coming first to Pixels
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and Samsung Galaxy S. Yes. >> So, some of us in here are very happy about that. They uh they tend to do
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that. They tend to put Samsung right at the forefront of a lot of the software stuff. Cool.
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>> How do you feel about that as a OnePlus boy now? >> I'm a OnePlus 15 user. I do have a
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mention of that later in this. Um but yeah, it's fine. You know, we'll get
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that stuff eventually at some point. >> At some point. >> Yeah. Um so here's a couple of things
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that we got. We got some slightly updated aesthetics. We got a lot of the Gemini stuff is what's updated
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aesthetically. So a little new animation. And it's a little bit glassy, but not really. When you're talking to
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it, then when it's thinking, then when it's executing. >> Yeah, that had me nervous for a second.
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I thought they were doing a whole redesign. It seems to be just for Gemini, right?
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>> Yeah. Whenever you long press the button and Gemini pops up or you're doing
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something with Gemini, that's what the redesign is. >> Yeah. And spoiler, a lot of what's new
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with Android is Gemini related, and that's why they're calling it the biggest update yet, because AI big AI
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very important to Google. Um I some of the stuff that was interesting screen reactions I thought was a cool uh
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feature. >> So you know how you see one of those uh Instagram or Tik Tok real videos where
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it's just a person in front of whatever they're talking about? That's like a
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mode built into the camera now. You can just do that. >> It's great built into Android.
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>> Yeah, I think this is going to slap. >> It's going to just make that format so
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much easier for so many people. >> Yeah, >> it's great. >> Listen, do you guys follow Cardi B on
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Instagram? >> Cardi B? >> I don't think so, actually. >> Okay. Well, she has these like weekly
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rants where she's just talking to the camera on Instagram and just going off
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about whatever's going on in her life. Just loves this. It's very entertaining.
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>> She is going to use the hell out of this assuming she ever leaves iPhone, which
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she probably won't. >> But is she going to have an Android phone? >> Yeah. People that do that kind of like
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content. This is going to be insane. >> Paris Hilton's going to be making videos
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with this for sure. >> Surely. >> Surely. Motorola stream. >> Um, there's also some more plugs with
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things like Instagram. So, some of this has existed already in the past, but some more native integration with using
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the camera built into Instagram. You can have HDR content supported. You can have
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all of the processing supported uh, which is nice. >> I remember they did this a few years ago
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with Snapchat, I think it was, where they like implemented the Google camera directly into Snapchat so that it
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wouldn't be such like >> quality. Yes, I do remember this happening. >> Yeah, they had a name and everything and
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they and they were very proud of it and it was just the Pixel and now they're
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doing more of it. So, >> also Samsung >> and Samsung as well. >> So, great.
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>> They're there. >> That's coming to the forefront. >> Um, there is a feature called pause
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point. >> Yeah, >> it's an interesting implementation. What you've probably already seen on the
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iPhone is screen time where you can specifically decide to limit the number of minutes, let's say, in a day that you
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can spend on a certain app. >> I mean, Google has this too though. >> Yeah.
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>> Yeah. the what is it called? >> It's digital wellbeing. >> Thank you. Yes, digital
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>> wellbeing. When you get to the end of that timer, it kicks you out the app,
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you can't open it anymore or unless you decide to bypass it, whatever. >> This is a new version of that that is a
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little bit more of a 50/50 split. It it's you open the app that you want to have restrictions on
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>> and then it shames you into closing the app. >> Once you're in it, it pops up this pause
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screen and it it tells you like just remember why you're here. Remember what
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you meant to do when you opened your phone. And I think some of the examples were like you can scroll through
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pictures of your pet or something while you remember. >> There was like a cool down timer first.
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>> Yes. Like 20 seconds or something. >> I don't know if after that then it shows
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you pictures of your loved ones, but >> yeah. So like think of who you're
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disappointing here as you doom scroll. >> The one that was like have you have you
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thought about your goals? >> Like I know you're about to open subway servers, but
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>> have you thought about grinding right now instead? >> Yeah. Don't you want to be a productive
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person? It is a different take on limiting your screen time. Uh I don't know. I I'm not going to use
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that either, but >> I like it. I know that you're very anti these. >> I guess if I was someone who was already
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trying to rely on screen time, I would find this maybe refreshing or at least interesting and different. I'd try it.
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>> I'll report back and try it. >> The digital well-being restrictions
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literally do nothing for me. Same. I think they mentioned something about it also restarting your phone to like
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disable it or something. So like another thing to have to bypass it. It makes it
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harder. Yeah. >> Um I don't think >> this will stop me. I'm not going to lie.
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>> I thought if I was a Google lawyer, that whole section would have made me sweat
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bullets >> because like because like six weeks ago, Google lost a ginormous court case that
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they can be found liable for making addicting products. They got sued because of YouTube's algorithm being too
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addicting. >> Ellis, you think that the different parts of Google talk to each other?
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>> As soon as like a Google employee was like, do you ever feel like you're using
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your phone without thinking about it or like you unconsciously pull out your phone? I was like, that's kind of you
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admitting it's a little addictive. >> Yeah. But >> but it's fine cuz now we can watch
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YouTube in the car while we >> Listen, the product people make things. The lawyers lawyer it out. That's their
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problem. Product people are like, I'm just going to make this. I feel like there's a couple apps that are really
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associated with opening it and then mindlessly scrolling and then forgetting how much time you spent and those are
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Instagram, Tik Tok, and Twitter. >> Yeah, you're so right. >> And now you can do less of that or you
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can just uninstall it to bypass all of it. >> The whole thing of this product is like
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you have this impulse to open your phone and they want to make you wait like 10 15 seconds to just like see if that's
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actually what you want to do, right? Do you know the other thing in American society that you employs that tactic?
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Firearm sales. In like a lot of states, if you want to buy a gun, they make you wait like 3 to 10 days to be like, are
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you sure you actually need a gun? I was like, that is a weird thing like to use the gun strat for.
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>> I guess it's an impulse buy for >> maybe the wrong reasons. >> Exactly. Anyway,
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>> I think we should have that for microtransactions. We should have a little cool down timer.
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>> Yeah. Yeah. I wonder can you put this per You have to be able to put this per
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app, right? >> Yeah. >> So I can like set this on I don't know like my text messages or something.
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>> Why would you want to put on >> Not that I would want to, but you could
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in theory make you don't text instantly. >> Mom text you. You're like I can't I
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can't right now. And then a picture of her like comes on the screen. >> No, I actually like this feature because
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I like you, Mariah, I've tried these digital well-being like timer block things and it just doesn't work. like I
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can very easily just unlock it, put my fingerprint, whatever. Um, giving me that little slight pause to be like, are
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you sure? I think that's going to work because I'm going to be like, "No, you
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know what? You're right. I'm I don't want to do this. It's fine." Like, I
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have that tick and this will stop me from doing that tick. >> I feel like everyone has the moment
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where they're on their phone and they're like they snap out of it. They're like,
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"Why? Why am I here? >> What day is it? >> Where what am I doing?" You know,
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>> I think that's that that's valid cuz people they get to that point and it's
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been like 10 minutes and they don't realize what they were just doing because I also think there's a lot of
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people who have the screen time thing set, but the muscle memory is just to open it and immediately bypass it.
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>> And so you're in anyway now. So this will interrupt you >> before you get to that point of 10
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minutes later being like, why is it dark outside? >> So it's it's different. Yeah,
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>> it's different. >> What are you What app are you putting this on?
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>> Me personally? Yeah. Oh, I have just this whole thing called like discipline
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where >> Okay. Okay. where I just >> You have an internal timer that once it
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hits five minutes, you close the app. >> Well, if I have something to do, I do
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that. I just Maybe it's just me. But if I've pulled out my phone to do a task,
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>> I'm pretty focused on like getting to do that task and then maybe I'll doom
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scroll. But >> But how long are you doom scrolling for? Like you don't fall down a rabbit hole
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and just wake up 20 minutes later. >> Uh you're done with your task. You're
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just chilling on the couch. It's not gotten to the point where it's like,
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boy, do I need a feature to show me pictures of my pets or something. >> You mean our pets?
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>> Yeah. So, I don't know. Maybe I'll get there. >> I'm like halfway between you guys. Like,
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I never doom scroll for more than like 45 seconds, but when I'm having a bad no
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discipline day, it is sort of like I do 45 second doom scrolls once every like six minutes, you know? Like,
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>> so >> it's okay. We're built different and you know, that's fine. See, with me, I'm
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like one or the other. I can either scroll for like 45 seconds and be like, "Yeah, I'm done." Or some days I will
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get on the couch and I'm like, "I'm not doing nothing tonight but scrolling."
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Like, that's it. My next two hours are going to be down this Tik Tok rabbit hole.
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>> If it I wonder how long it takes to interrupt you. If it sees you scroll for
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like >> whatever, let's say you're in that app for like 30 seconds.
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>> Pro. Yeah, it didn't show the UI, but maybe it'll let you set the time.
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>> This reminds me, isn't there a thing on the iPhone? Sorry, this is a tangent.
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Um, that tells you you're holding the phone too close to your eyes. >> That was another one. I've never had
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that >> turned on. No. >> What? >> I think Marina tried that once and I
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>> I don't know how I feel. >> It's supposed to >> close back up.
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>> It's supposed to protect you and probably a lot of younger people who are
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just like this who are holding it right up to their face. And maybe if you do that too much, that's bad for your eyes.
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So, just sort of warning you to not do that so much. Yeah, I think the one other big feature here in Android is
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Airdrop support coming to way more devices. So, AirDrop and Android are now compatible essentially at least well in
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both directions I think. Uh, and it is out the gates now for S26 series, Pixel 10's, Pixel 9's, Pixel 8a, Oppo Find X9
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series and Find N6, Vivo X300 Ultra and coming soon to a bunch of others including my OnePlus 15.
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>> How long do you think that is? >> I have no idea. I'm not hold I'm not
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crossing my fingers. I I I literally use Blip for that now. I'm not like reliant
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on it. But it is neat that that is one of the things breaking down the ecosystem wall.
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>> It's weird. I don't see the Pixel 6 on this list. >> Yeah. When are we going to get to older
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phones? >> Oh yeah. All the way back to 8a. That's the like oldest one.
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>> It's not bad. >> I wonder why. It can't be like a hardware limitation.
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>> I don't know. You know, it was funny when we did that like shooting every
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single iPhone photo >> uh from every generation from 17 to one. >> Yeah. Getting the photos off of the
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iPhone was really easy from the iPhone 17 down all the way to a certain phone where Airdrop was no longer a feature.
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Which phone, this is a random trivia question, which phone do you think was the first one that I couldn't just air
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drop it to myself? >> iPhone 7. >> I want to say I'm just going to say eight.
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>> Eight. I don't actually remember exactly which one, >> but it was like the 4S. It was like
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really far. >> I got really far and Andrew had to go from like plugging him into the
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computer. Crazy. >> Have you ever had to root around in like the um iPhone folders on like a PC
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before? >> That's what we had to do for the first time. Terrible. It was really tough.
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Yeah. >> Rough. >> So, okay. How many people here use Android Auto? That was the other big
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update. >> I do >> every day. >> Pretty big deal. Android Auto got a
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really big update. probably bigger than the rest of the updates to Android itself.
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>> Um, the aesthetics, the visual updates. So, it's got this lane guidance now. It
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has this 3D view with way more detailed topography and mapping stuff, overpasses, bridges,
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>> all that stuff. >> If you took Apple Maps and like Tesla maps and make them had a baby.
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>> Yeah, it like Apple Maps had a lot of this unique, not cartoony, but sort of
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like 3D look to it. And now this has a lot of that, too. >> It's funny. It feels like it was
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inspired by some of those like social media posts that are like putting Apple Maps and Google Maps side by side. So
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now it's got it's got all of that. >> Uh and it also has way more features
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like the ability to watch full screen 60fps videos in whatever screen is in your car that has Android Auto on it.
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>> Hate this. >> But I think that's only when you're parked and probably specifically for
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electric cars, like when you're charging. >> I really hope so because otherwise it
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makes no sense. >> I'm going to test this immediately. >> It's a good idea.
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>> I'm going to find out. >> Do you have an electric car? No. No, but
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like I have Android Auto in my car. >> So, you're just going to like park it
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and sit there and watch a YouTube video? >> I want to see if it even knows if I'm in
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park. >> It probably does. It's smart enough to know. >> Well, it has GPS, so it'll know if
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you're moving or not. Yeah, but you could fool that. >> It's smart enough to at least It turns
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down my media when I'm in reverse, so it probably knows if I'm in park or not.
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>> So, it did have a UI thing where when you switch into drive, it moves that
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video off screen and continues playing the audio in the background. >> That was cool.
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>> That was cool. That's the thing I have the most questions about because one, it
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was Android Auto, not like built into the car. How does it know you switched into drive?
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>> Yes. >> Like your your phone doesn't know that your car switched into drive. You didn't
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start driving it. Two, I thought background audio play was a YouTube premium feature.
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>> If it's if it's on a nonpremium account, does it just pause? >> That's a good question. Not sure what
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happens. >> I think the YouTube Premium play was only when you like lock the screen and the
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screen turns off. >> Yeah. So, if I'm watching a video on my screen, turn the screen off, the video
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pauses, >> but it's playing on the car screen, which never turns off. >> Uh, but it does hide the video.
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>> Yeah, it hides it over in like a UI thing, but you know, >> in the in the phone world, that's kind
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of the equivalent of like turning the screen off, maybe. >> That's weird.
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>> I'm not really sure how that works yet. We got to test that. >> Didn't they say it was with like certain
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partners? Maybe that's how it knows that the car is in park and stuff. >> Yeah, it was I think there was like 16
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different brands. Yeah, something like that. >> We'll have to see. But I I am curious to
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see how effective that is. Um, but yeah, immersive navigation with redesigned visuals and yeah, zoom in the car. You
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can do zoom on the screen in the car. That part was crazy. >> Are you going to be zooming in the car?
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>> I've never I've never wanted to do that. You can do that in Teslas already. I've
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also never wanted to do that in my Tesla. >> Uh, long time. Never wanted to do it.
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>> I assume that's also audio only. >> No. >> Video while driving.
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>> It's not while driving. I don't think I think that should also be
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>> They didn't say no. >> They didn't clarify. So, >> but it should also be well parked. It
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should be, but it probably is. >> Um, but yeah, taking a meeting in the car on that car screen.
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>> They made an interesting point. They said that the the speakers in your car
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for most people are the best speakers you own. >> Dude, >> I've never thought about I knew it.
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>> I knew I want to hear your take on this, but my first reaction to that was like
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that might be true for a lot of people. >> Yeah, it is. It's definitely true for a
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lot of people, unfortunately. Sad. So now that that line with Paris Hilton of like my car is my personal movie
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theater. At first that was really cringy but then I'm like I mean the screen's
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not good but it is the it is the best speakers you have. So >> I would I would say that's accurate.
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>> Mhm. >> I would say so. >> But why would you watch a video on like
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a little 4 in screen? >> So the video part gets weird because the Bluetooth lag is sometimes pretty
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dramatic. Like I don't want to watch a movie with a second and a half of lag to
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the speakers. So then I guess I do want to watch it on the screen in the car. But that's never a good screen. Ever.
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>> Ever. >> So, I don't know how I feel about watching a movie in the car. But if
00:20:32
you're charging and you're sitting there with an EV for 45 minutes, maybe waiting
00:20:36
for a charger and then it's a slow charge, whatever, it's a way to burn the
00:20:39
time. >> Yeah. Ellis is going to watch Dune on the big screen in the car. >> That sounds pretty fun.
00:20:44
>> Oh, just like, you know, when you're learning how to do audio stuff,
00:20:49
especially music stuff, like a big part is learning how to make your mixes translate to a car and
00:20:55
you want to like check stuff in a car because car speakers are like universally the weirdest
00:21:00
>> like this like the way something sounds in a studio it'll sound kind of similar
00:21:03
in a lot of speakers and then in a car it'll sound completely different somehow
00:21:07
>> and so yeah definitely hearing but I guess compared to almost any sound bar
00:21:11
probably a car is like better >> and most people only have sound bars in their homes.
00:21:16
>> Yeah. >> Damn that sad way to bum me out. So, big Android update, Android Auto
00:21:25
update coming. The last piece of the puzzle though is Gemini Intelligence, which of course they're probably going
00:21:31
to talk way more about at Google IO. >> Yeah. >> Uh, but we did get some new intelligence
00:21:36
features. They kept calling it an what did they say? An intelligence. >> It's not an operating system right now,
00:21:41
right? It's a >> It's an intelligence. >> Intelligence system.
00:21:44
>> It's an intelligence. Okay. So, what's new? So, what's the intelligence system?
00:21:48
Uh, okay. There are more agentic features from Gemini. It can take action for you through your apps and use your
00:21:56
apps for you. And also some smaller things like autofill, like uh better speech to text where it removes a lot of
00:22:05
the filler words and you can speak in two different languages and it'll it'll
00:22:08
work at the same time. >> Those were probably the best use cases of these new features.
00:22:13
>> I think the smallest ones were the best ones. like they should have leaned hard
00:22:15
into those cuz that's like everyday life things versus their weird examples that
00:22:20
I'll sure I'm sure you'll bring up, but like >> yeah, >> using Gemini to book concert tickets or
00:22:25
something is just insane behavior. >> That was my Okay, that was my take. So,
00:22:29
I tweeted this. I tweeted just a screenshot of the Google slide that just said, "Book two floor seats to this
00:22:35
concert." >> And then in the video, the person just clicks it and then that's the end of the
00:22:41
interaction. and they're like, "Yep, got the tickets." >> What? No, that's not how this works.
00:22:47
That's also not even how I want it to work. I want to shop around a little bit. I actually want to engage with
00:22:51
this, pick the seats I want, pick the best deal. Like, there are there's way
00:22:55
more nuance to it. Now, I tweeted this and deer replied. He said, "Well, there's only so much we could fit in a
00:23:00
sizzle reel. Of course, Gemini Intelligence leaves the user in control for the final checkout process."
00:23:06
>> He linked the article that describes it, but I also don't see anything about the
00:23:09
final checkout process in here. So, I'm curious to see what the rest of the checkout process looks like.
00:23:14
>> Because like if they're showing this while you're driving your car, they're
00:23:17
showing you can do all of this while you're doing other things. >> How thorough could it really be?
00:23:23
>> That's the other thing is how much do you trust it? Because look, I've grown
00:23:28
up now in the age of AI making lots of mistakes >> old. >> And it's getting better, yes, but I am
00:23:33
very familiar with AI hallucinating things and making lots of mistakes. So when when people say like booking
00:23:38
airplane tickets is a big screen activity, I think what they really mean is like I want to make sure I'm doing
00:23:42
this right and actually getting what I want here and doing a single button press in Gemini and then maybe two or
00:23:47
more steps in a checkout process >> still doesn't feel like quite enough.
00:23:52
>> It feels like when people have like a Google Home or a different like home
00:23:57
device and they're like I don't know, buy me this thing and there's no
00:24:00
followup. It just feels very just like I want it now. >> Yeah. For some people, that's going to
00:24:05
be fine because they don't care which version they just bought or how much it
00:24:08
cost or whatever or how how fast the delivery is going to be or any of the other steps. But yeah, I don't feel like
00:24:14
I would do that. >> This is just going to be weird, too, because there's so many concerts where
00:24:17
you end up like waiting in a queue, you know, like you have 3 hours of waiting before
00:24:22
>> even going to be any tickets left anyway. >> Exactly. Gemini scalp tickets.
00:24:26
>> Gemini is going to be on ticket master like refreshing like the rest of us.
00:24:30
>> I guess they need to come up with better examples because >> So, they had a couple others. Yeah,
00:24:34
>> one of them was uh look at the syllabus and buy all the textbooks required for
00:24:38
the semester. >> No, >> I'm like, >> man, I don't know. I just I it's not fun
00:24:44
to shop for the best deal for textbooks, but I don't want to just buy the default,
00:24:48
>> you know, who can just pay anything as student. >> Yeah. Yeah. I really I think I'm going
00:24:52
to look at the listing and then go look on eBay or look on Facebook Marketplace for last year's semester like students
00:24:57
who are selling it. Like I I don't know. >> No, just wait till you get to class, ask
00:25:01
who has the ebook. Yeah. >> And then get the drive link. >> Yeah. I'm very interested in the demo
00:25:07
they had for the food um delivery where they were like, you know what I order from the restaurant.
00:25:13
>> Send me that but double it. >> You know what? That one >> that one might work for me.
00:25:16
>> That one was close for me. That one was the closest because I do have I have a
00:25:20
restaurant near me >> and I have two things one or two things that I always swap between and I order
00:25:26
from there. And I have this whole ritual where if I'm like 15 minutes from home
00:25:29
like do I feel like cooking today? Not really. I will, not while I'm driving,
00:25:33
but at a red light, I'll open the Uber Eats app and go put in the order and and
00:25:38
go for pickup. And then when I'm at a certain light, the same exact light every single time, which is exactly 8
00:25:42
minutes away, I hit order, I check out, and then when the light turns green, I know that when I arrive, they're
00:25:47
finishing my order. >> That's crazy. Isn't it that well timed? >> Yeah. So, this is a routine enough thing
00:25:54
>> that in theory, I could just be driving in the car and just say, "Hey, G,
00:25:59
>> order the thing." >> Yeah. and uh it could do it, >> which I think could be helpful. There's
00:26:03
been times where I've been on like a road trip and I'm like I am driving
00:26:06
still and I can't stop because this is like a 9-h hour drive. And it would be
00:26:10
nice if my food was waiting for me at a future destination, >> but that's pretty infrequent. And also,
00:26:16
I guess it's picking this information, I assume, from your email or from texts or
00:26:21
like receipts. >> I would imagine past orders as well, right? >> What's up?
00:26:25
>> I would imagine past orders as well. >> Yeah, but from >> That's what I'm saying. Is it pulling
00:26:29
the information from your It has to be pulling it from somewhere because how else would it know like it doesn't have
00:26:33
access into Door Dash or does it >> I think it's Gmail. It has It has access
00:26:38
into wallet, Gmail, photos, and some other Google services. >> But they did say they were partnering
00:26:42
with Select Food. >> It was like Door Dash and someone else. >> So, some kind of back door into Door
00:26:46
Dash. I'm not sure. Maybe >> before they did all the featurery stuff, they did the um sort of that sort of
00:26:51
like sizzle reel, you know, that intro cinematic. And uh a lot of the features they were sort of talking about in that
00:26:56
seemed to be almost like open clawy like when the command was like keep an eye on
00:27:02
this merch thing. That's the kind of thing that in order to do accurately I would assume it would need to get
00:27:07
prompted twice a day three times a day in the background which is like sort of what an openclaw product is for.
00:27:14
>> But they never actually said like it can do heartbeat style >> agentic
00:27:18
>> agentic prompts. And so I'm curious if that's sort of like something they're
00:27:22
planning on adding or It should be able to I've had GPT do that sort of thing
00:27:27
before. >> You can say like just recurringly do this and let me know. >> Yeah. Yeah. And it would like twice a
00:27:33
day give me a like a notification of the thing that it checked again. >> Yeah. Oh, interesting.
00:27:37
>> So, it's possible, but yeah, another example here was uh buying >> what was it? Buying all the things like
00:27:44
tours with no Oh, it was just like look at my Expedia like booking and like book
00:27:49
a tour for five people or something like just pick the best one. Google. >> Yeah,
00:27:54
>> you might get like the one that has open seats, which isn't very good because the
00:27:57
good one is full. I I'm not really sure what it's going to pick for you.
00:28:00
>> I I want to do that. >> No, I I will never get I don't think the
00:28:05
technology will ever get to a point where I will have it plan an entire trip and me just be like, "Sounds great."
00:28:10
>> It seems like it's the example every time. They're like, "I want to go for a
00:28:13
trip. Let's >> plan a trip to France." And it just starts doing stuff.
00:28:18
>> I I simply cannot imagine doing that. But that's the future of Google's ads
00:28:22
business. >> I believe it. >> We're already seeing like the birth of
00:28:26
the the AI SEO sort of industry of these ad agencies that are like we will boost
00:28:31
your rankings on GPT and Claude and stuff like that. And I think this is the future baby is like
00:28:36
>> buy this thing and then the AI goes who paid me money to say buy this thing?
00:28:40
>> I I feel like I want the AI to kick in like one step later in the process. I
00:28:45
want to do some of the research and I want to decide which exact >> to be fair is the improved autofill.
00:28:56
Yeah. >> Which it's going to be able to take information from what it knows about you
00:28:59
from your wallet from your photos. Let's say it needs a random driver's license
00:29:03
ID number or something for some random purchase. I don't know why it would do
00:29:05
that. >> Your passport. >> Your passport ID. That was one of the examples. But like it could throw that
00:29:09
in there because the improved autofill. It can take care of that for you. So that's the point where the AI I think
00:29:13
would be very useful for me. >> Yeah. >> But I'm looking forward to that. That
00:29:17
autofill thing looked really dope >> because I spend way too much time filling out different addresses. Even
00:29:23
with the autofill by Chrome and all this stuff, it still takes too long. >> Yeah.
00:29:27
>> So if there's a way to just have AI do all these generic things, go for it.
00:29:31
>> I feel like the thought of this would freak my parents out. Like I don't think
00:29:36
there's some people who I feel like would not want to have their personal information. Um, I assume there's ways
00:29:40
to opt out of all of these or is there? >> You would hope so. >> I don't know, but I don't know.
00:29:46
>> I think it would be opt in. Well, at least the the way it's been treated so
00:29:49
far is I had to tell it to access my Gmail and all that other stuff. So, it was opt in.
00:29:54
>> I had to give it access to everything. Yeah. My calendar, my Gmail, all that.
00:29:58
>> But, I mean, hey, it's there already. Use it. >> I've taken a picture of my passport
00:30:02
before. That's the thing, though. Here's the thing. I have my current driver's
00:30:06
license that I've taken a picture of. I also definitely have a picture of my old
00:30:09
driver's license. >> Is the driver's license number the same? Maybe it is. If it if it pulls from the
00:30:16
old one, is that going to be a problem? I I don't know. >> Well, that was my question with they had
00:30:19
an example with Magic Q and they were like, "Oh, I'm going on a hike and I was
00:30:22
going back and forth with this person and they asked they texted me the address." And with Magic Q, I could just
00:30:26
press the button and send them the address. And that has not worked for me once. Yes.
00:30:30
>> Every time because it's like I'm going back and forth with the person and we're
00:30:33
discussing multiple places like, "Oh, do you want to go here? What if we meet
00:30:36
there? What about this place? And every time that magic Q button that pops up, it gives me one of those places and not
00:30:41
the one we settled on. >> That is that's why I don't trust it. >> I don't trust it. It's like those little
00:30:45
things like that where it's not going to understand that we I just said, "Yeah,
00:30:49
let's do that one instead of putting in a whole address." >> Yeah.
00:30:53
>> And it just doesn't understand. >> And then when it gets it wrong, it's
00:30:56
that one little thing where it's like now we don't want to trust it anymore.
00:30:58
Where the person literally is like where are we meeting? Oh, magic. I just sent the response. And then you get there and
00:31:03
they're like, "I'm 15 miles away cuz you sent me an address on >> Yeah. They went to the wrong airport
00:31:07
like >> David. >> Oh my god. >> So TBD on testing all of that stuff. But
00:31:13
the last thing we got a little bit of a sneak peek of uh is Google Book. >> Yes.
00:31:18
>> Google Book is they they hyped it a lot like it's a brand new concept, but to me
00:31:23
it felt a lot like Chrome OS Plus. >> Okay. >> Like it's it's a Chromebook with Chrome
00:31:28
OS. It has Android apps. It has a premium build as they say and it'll have a little light bar. It'll be made by one
00:31:35
of several OEMs HP, Dell, Lenovo, Acer, Asus and it runs this more Gemini centered version of Chrome OS where it
00:31:45
has essentially the magic pointer on the top of it which you wiggle the the click
00:31:49
the cursor and it becomes a little multimodal portal into Gemini. You can click a photo, learn about it. You can
00:31:57
click several photos, combine them together with Nano Banana. You can ask it to rephrase some text that you
00:32:01
highlight with the cursor. It's just your cursor becomes this portal into Gemini.
00:32:05
>> It's a cool concept. Um, but why a new product category? >> Yeah. I'm confused about
00:32:11
>> this is just Chromebook. It's just Chrome OS. >> It's just an update.
00:32:14
>> And the Chrome OS Chromebooks, like the more recent ones that were really good,
00:32:17
already could run Android apps. >> Yep. In the Play Store. >> Yeah. So, I'm like, why why do a whole
00:32:23
rebrand? I think there may be a distinction between emulating the Play Store from your phone and actually
00:32:31
running the app on the laptop. >> Okay. >> Um in the like, you know, you can like
00:32:37
mirror your iPhone on your on your Mac. Same thing with like you can use apps that are on your phone and access files
00:32:42
that are on your phone from the laptop, but I think that might be a slight distinction here where it's actually
00:32:48
running the app on the laptop instead of running it or mirroring it from what your phone is running. But then how does
00:32:52
it have the data from my phone? >> Um some other extra connection between your laptop.
00:32:59
>> I don't think that part is new. >> Yeah. >> But yeah, now it's like, oh, I'm writing
00:33:02
an email. Let me just attach a file that's from my phone. You can just drag it from your phone.
00:33:06
>> So this might be a stupid question, but did they kill Chromebooks? >> That's what I was wondering. I don't
00:33:12
>> seem like they killed it. >> So this is just a new addition. >> They never mentioned Chromebooks, so I
00:33:16
assumed they didn't kill Chromebooks, but this is a new concept. Google Book.
00:33:20
>> Okay. I do like the idea. Like when when I saw it, I was like, "Oh, that's cool."
00:33:24
Like premium hardware. It's the same reason I was excited for like the old Chromebook Pixel, like the nice premium
00:33:29
laptops that are tied into all my Google stuff. I already have the Android phone,
00:33:32
the Pixel phone, whatever. Like, just put it all in one place. >> I like that idea. I'm just confused
00:33:38
about the whole new >> branding around Google Books specifically. >> Who is this for? Who's who's buying
00:33:45
this? >> That's what I want to know. That's another good question because we kind of
00:33:49
know what a Chromebook is. And a Chromebook historically has been a cheaper like entry into the Google
00:33:55
ecosystem for students and a lot of people who just need like a web browser and that's basically it and they have
00:33:59
some apps on their phone. >> A more premium version of that means higher price tag, potentially higher
00:34:05
performance, more interesting features. >> But what does it do? If you're having a
00:34:10
higher price tag, I need it to do real work things. >> It's an AI machine.
00:34:14
>> Yeah, it's built. It's the first laptop. Wait, let me take the exact quote. It's
00:34:18
the >> Is there a price point for this either? I didn't see >> there's no price. Uh this the first
00:34:22
laptops designed for Google Gemini intelligence from the ground up. >> Does that mean that it can run Final Cut
00:34:28
or Adobe Premiere or >> Definitely designed for that? >> I really doubt that.
00:34:32
>> Or even outside of like the creative uh video editing workflow. Like can it do I
00:34:38
don't know. >> No. Like this this is not it doesn't feel like a competitor to the MacBook
00:34:41
Neo. like it it doesn't even feel like a similar cuz that's like their budget
00:34:45
item and this feels >> completely different category. >> This is the
00:34:50
>> I want to use Gemini more than the average person Chromebook >> which is me. I would like to do that.
00:34:55
>> But you need a whole separate computer. Yeah. Like I should be able like why
00:35:00
can't I just install an app on my current computer that does all this? >> Yeah. Why is this not a software update
00:35:05
to an existing Chromebook? >> That's that's what I would like to know.
00:35:08
Like what is the benefit of me buying into this hardware system? Cuz it's like
00:35:13
I'm buying a whole new laptop. >> The glow bar. >> Where else are you going to get the glow
00:35:18
bar? >> See what it does. What is the glow bar? >> It just glows. >> It just glows.
00:35:21
>> It just looks nice. >> All right. If it literally just glows, I'm here for it.
00:35:24
>> I think it literally just a nice like that's not the only thing it does. And
00:35:28
then they like didn't elaborate. >> Did they say that? >> I I could be misreading. It seemed very
00:35:33
ominous. >> I was taking notes so I might have missed some parts of that, but it seems
00:35:36
like it just glows. If it literally just glows, I'm here for it. That's so just
00:35:40
why not? Why not? But I'm just like I'm just confused about this this whole
00:35:44
thing. >> Yeah. I'm not sure what the use case is and I really want to know how much this
00:35:48
is going to cost. >> I will try to get my hands on a Google book. I don't know who's going to make
00:35:52
the first one. I don't know if it's going to be HP or It will be HP. >> As ASUS or HP,
00:35:57
>> probably HP. Yeah, we'll see if I can get my hands on a Google book.
00:35:59
>> Well, what was the first one? Wasn't it Acer? The C140 or something like that.
00:36:04
That one >> that was unbranded. Wait, >> I don't think they ever said like an
00:36:08
OEM. >> It was literally a logoless matte black featureless laptop. >> Just what you want.
00:36:15
>> Oh, no. That was Acer. That was Acer. Acer. Acer CR40. >> Okay. Acer made it. Was there a logo?
00:36:20
>> Are you looking at pictures of it? >> Yeah, I'm looking at picture. I don't
00:36:22
see any logo. This is >> like the first ever Chromebook. >> Oh, >> you can see how they got me into
00:36:27
Chromebooks cuz they made a featureless matte black sleek Chromebook to start it
00:36:32
off. And I was like, "All right, I think I could get into this." And then you
00:36:35
tried to use it and we were like, "Okay." >> Yeah. It has like 1 gig of RAM in it.
00:36:38
>> Yeah. So, >> I love Chromebooks. I used one for all throughout college. It was awesome. But
00:36:43
then I graduated and I had to do things for work and I was like, "Now I can't
00:36:47
use this computer. I need a new computer." >> And if I'm going to spend like I don't
00:36:50
know, let's say it's what 1,500 for a premium. They kept saying premium. So,
00:36:54
I'm assuming it's going to be expensive. >> That's really expensive.
00:36:57
>> Too much. >> I picture when they say premium, I pictured a,000. a thousand like I mean
00:37:01
that is premium but I mean you get a MacBook Air for that so >> for this >> and they didn't announce any other specs
00:37:07
and >> but the MacBook Air don't jiggle baby >> doesn't have a glow bar
00:37:12
>> I I mean the glow bar >> premium could mean anything the the typical Chromebook range is like 250 to
00:37:18
550 650 maybe >> but this isn't a Chromebook Marquez this is a premium hardware group
00:37:23
>> right premium hardware but that could just mean more metal than plastic that
00:37:26
could mean like a better keyboard deck and a brighter screen and stuff like that doesn't necessarily really mean
00:37:30
like high-end specs and tons of RAM. >> I think that's exactly what it means. I
00:37:33
think it just means metal. >> Yeah. Yeah. $799. >> $799. >> I don't know.
00:37:39
>> I don't know. >> It's going to be It's going to be interesting to put this alongside a
00:37:42
Chromebook and see what they actually do differently. >> Yeah. >> That's what we'll see. We'll test it on
00:37:46
video. >> We need David to test this. David, come home. >> Speaking of David, you know what? He's
00:37:51
not here for >> trivia. >> Nice. >> But Mariah will have to wait. So you get
00:37:58
>> What did my plan for? >> You played for Andrew last time. >> Yeah.
00:38:02
>> So you'll keep playing for Andrew. >> You're in David. You should play for
00:38:06
David. >> Sorry. >> And I'll play for Andrew. >> Okay. >> Okay. You play for the person whose seat
00:38:10
you are in. >> Yeah. >> I'll play for Marquez. >> That's fair.
00:38:12
>> You Adam will play for Andrew. >> Block seats. You want to play for David?
00:38:16
>> No, I want to play for me. I want to play for me. I need points. I need
00:38:18
points. >> Okay. This is going to be a Price is Right. Rules question. So close without
00:38:23
going over. >> 1799. Sony is known for choosing very bad names for their products because the
00:38:29
names are overly complicated and filled with crazy numbers. >> Do you have another way?
00:38:34
>> Google has the opposite problem where their names are so simple they often
00:38:39
overlap with one another and become confusing. >> That's funny. >> Yeah, they do do that.
00:38:43
>> How many Google products and services have the word book? >> No. God,
00:38:52
>> is there a limit? What's the biggest number? It could be >> prices right rules.
00:38:57
>> Prices right rules. And I'm just going to give you guys one hint right now.
00:39:01
>> The Chromebook Pixel is only one. Even though the 2013 and 2015 Chromebook
00:39:06
Pixels are different devices. I'm counting those as one device because they have one Wikipedia page.
00:39:11
>> Yeah. >> Okay. >> These are products and services. >> So remember, just to kick it off, there
00:39:18
is now the Google book and Google books. And these count like these current releases, you're adding these.
00:39:24
>> Yeah, Google. Like I said, both Google Book and Google Books is on the list.
00:39:30
>> David, you're not going to get any points today. I'm sorry, brother.
00:39:32
>> David is somewhere yelling at his phone cuz he actually knows the answer.
00:39:35
>> This is the one he was made for. I'm not even going to write anything down yet.
00:39:38
>> The service does not have to be alive still. >> No, it does not. >> Oh, no. Okay.
00:39:43
>> Chances are it is not alive. >> That's also true. Statistically
00:39:45
speaking, >> and remember there can be letters immediately preceding or immediately
00:39:49
succeeding the word book. It can be blank blank book or book blank >> like book flight.
00:39:55
>> All right. >> Okay. All right. Well, we'll think about that. We'll try to be prices right
00:39:58
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production calendar, we have had this day there for a while because this day is podcast recording with no David, no
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Andrew. This day comes every year. >> And you know us, we thought what better
00:41:22
than a game. And today, for the first time, I have my compatriate Rufus who came up with this amazing game
00:41:29
many weeks ago, and we have put it into effect. Do you guys remember when we did
00:41:33
Family Feud and we asked the Waveform audience to answer a bunch of questions? >> Oh, yeah, we did.
00:41:37
>> Mhm. Yeah. >> Well, we bring you today. Uh >> oh. >> An even better version of it called
00:41:45
We didn't time this one very well. >> Reddit Family Feud. That's right. Reddit
00:41:50
Family Feud. We found nine Reddit posts on Reddit.com that had answers that we thought were funny, interesting, bad,
00:41:59
uninformed, informed, whatever you want it to be. >> That's just Reddit. You just described
00:42:03
Reddit. We gave them to I don't remember which AI model. It might have been Alibaba's Quen.
00:42:10
>> Quen I think I think it was Quen. We gave them to Quen and we said, "Quen,
00:42:14
perform sentiment analysis and let us know what the most common or upvoted answers to these questions asked
00:42:22
on Reddit were. So, the way this game is going to work is we're going to read you
00:42:25
the Reddit post. You guys are going to have to guess what is either the most commonly answered
00:42:31
thing or the most commonly upvoted thing. And we'll let you know before each question. This is a this is an up
00:42:37
votes one. This is a a a sentiment analysis one. >> And uh I'm just going to give you a
00:42:43
quick example. This first question we're going to do is why do people hate Apple
00:42:47
so much? The number 10 answer on the board. Uh so the this is a most commonly answered
00:42:54
one. Number 10 answer is lack of innovation year-over-year. Um, nine people. >> That was number 10.
00:43:01
>> That was the least. That That was like of the top 10. The least answer.
00:43:04
>> This is like daily tens, but in real life. >> Yeah. >> So, if I had answered that, I would get
00:43:08
how many points? >> So, I'm glad you said that cuz I was about to bring that up. The last time we
00:43:11
did Family Feud, we used a linear straightforward uh answering system that I think we stole from I can't remember
00:43:17
how they do scoring on the TV show, but um you know, like if you answer the 10th
00:43:21
answer, you get one point. If you answer the top answer, you get 10 points. This
00:43:24
time we said increase chaos by a lot and the points are based on how common that
00:43:30
answer was. So if you had gotten that answer lack of innovation year-over-year, you would have gotten
00:43:35
nine points out of >> if you had gotten the number one answer for this question, which I will not read
00:43:40
right now, >> you would have gotten 58 points. >> Damn, this could get out of hand.
00:43:45
>> This will get out of hand. This will get out of hand. That's kind of the point.
00:43:49
>> Um, so the way we're going to do it is you hit your buzzer. It locks everyone
00:43:54
else's buzzers and then um you get the chance to answer. You'll either get it
00:43:59
right or you'll get it wrong. If you get it right, you get to make another guess.
00:44:02
Um and if you get it wrong, >> then it's unlocked. >> Then someone else can buzz in and steal
00:44:08
it. >> I'm going to go nine for nine. You guys are not going to be able to answer. The
00:44:11
segment will be over in about 3 minutes. >> And if you guys are somehow like
00:44:14
primerain Redditors, like you just can guess what Redditors are doing, then we'll we'll turn on that you could get
00:44:19
three guesses and then you're not allowed to guess on that question anymore. I think we should be good as
00:44:23
is. >> We might need to test this out and just see what the >> I don't know how to decide who I guess
00:44:29
>> I've done a good amount of Redditing in my day. >> Yeah. So, why do people hate Apple so
00:44:34
much? Someone buzz in though. >> Who buzzed? >> Me, Adam. >> Why do people hate Apple so much?
00:44:39
>> Because it's expensive. >> It's expensive. >> Ding ding ding.
00:44:42
>> That's Yeah. Number one answer. >> Number one answer. >> 58 points to Adam. You get to guess
00:44:45
again. >> Catch up. >> That's crazy. >> Eat my bubbles. >> All right. All right. Hm.
00:44:50
>> Oh, we're just >> No, no, you had the you got it right. You don't have to buzz again.
00:44:54
>> Oh, okay. So, I can just keep going. Okay. Okay. Um, so then the next most
00:44:58
common answer by Redditors is because it's ass >> because it's bad.
00:45:07
>> Because I don't think anything >> Oh, sorry. Was that preemptive?
00:45:11
>> It was, but Mariah will let you answer. >> Um, can I say they break easily?
00:45:15
>> Lack of repairability. >> That's funny. So, that's people No.
00:45:18
Yeah. one. >> But Marquez, you disbudded in and you did say not repable, which is the third
00:45:25
most high said thing on this question. >> There you go. >> 36 points.
00:45:29
>> Wait, so did I not get any points? >> No. >> What the >> Wait, you just said yes to all of that
00:45:34
and then >> No, it was >> I have a feeling the whole game is going to go like that.
00:45:42
>> Are we still going? >> Yeah. Are we still going? >> Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. I
00:45:47
think Marquez got that right. >> Technically, I keep going. The board is yours.
00:45:51
>> Uh, user hostility. >> Explain what you mean by that. >> Uh, ecosystem wall.
00:45:56
>> Yep. Now, walled garden ecosystem. >> Number five. >> 29 points.
00:46:02
>> Interesting. Um, what about like uh not available in my or yeah, not available
00:46:08
in my region. >> Unfortunately, I do not see that. >> They're trying to get themselves into
00:46:14
every region. Ugly >> the design ugly. >> I feel like Reddit would say that. I
00:46:24
feel like they would. >> No. People People think they look great. >> Sims.
00:46:28
>> Lack of customization. >> That's a good one. >> Give me that. Give me that.
00:46:33
>> No. >> No. Come on, Redditors. >> Marquez. >> Uh, lacking in like updated specs. They
00:46:42
never have the biggest batteries or the highest numbers or any of that. No, >> no silicon carbon, you know.
00:46:47
>> Okay. Wait. Uh, let's see. Let's see. >> No games, bro. >> No games. Reddit.
00:46:58
>> Oh, >> no way. >> Yeah. Gaming limitations. >> Number four, for 32 points. Gamers spend
00:47:04
$1,200 on GPU alone. Counter argument. >> Sure. >> Thanks. can't afford this.
00:47:14
>> Gamers cannot afford that. >> A lot of these are you're you're
00:47:19
answering these questions as if the Redditors would give the actual answers, >> but a lot of these are just
00:47:26
>> Reddit responses. >> Okay. >> Well, it's things like a lot of these
00:47:30
are I don't care. I'm going to talk about something else. >> I could have said that.
00:47:36
>> Okay. So, I'm going to I got that right. >> Some of them are a little bit of a left.
00:47:39
So, think about if you said, "Why do Apple products suck so much?" Why? You
00:47:42
know, what is the the the second highest answer on the board? Would be >> your mom.
00:47:47
>> Cuz they always have. >> Not quite. >> Ryan, I see you itching to buzz in.
00:47:51
>> I don't know. They don't. >> They don't like Tim Cook.
00:47:55
>> No. >> Okay. >> Would it be they don't suck? >> No.
00:48:00
>> Wait, you didn't buzz in. >> I just buzzed. >> Which one you want to give him?
00:48:04
>> Oh, I thought this was an example. I just give it to Give it to six. >> There's There's the answer. The number
00:48:08
two answer on the board is sort of a slight variation on that, but it's slight enough that I think it deserves
00:48:14
its own thing. But next time, let's make sure we're using the buzzers, folks.
00:48:17
>> Okay, got it. Got it. Got it. >> I need to think like a Redditor.
00:48:20
>> Wait, so what was your most recent answer? What did you just say? That it
00:48:23
doesn't suck. >> It doesn't suck. >> And the answer on the board was build
00:48:27
quality and reliability is actually excellent. >> And so we have both sides. We have Wait,
00:48:33
did we already say like >> Mariah? So, we have it doesn't suck. But do we already we already have it sucks,
00:48:38
right? >> But why it's Why does it suck? >> It doesn't matter. They just They don't
00:48:44
like it. >> Not on the board. >> No. >> Siri is goated. >> Not on the board.
00:48:51
>> No way. >> I don't think anybody thinks that. >> I think they would say something about
00:48:56
the pretentious attitude of presenting everything as revolutionary when it's
00:49:00
not. >> That uh I would say that is seven. Damn. >> Tribalism/platform wars. That feels damn
00:49:07
>> That feels on on on point. >> Can you say like explicitly better than
00:49:11
Android? >> Nothing. >> That might have I might have given you tribalism for that, but
00:49:16
>> Okay. >> What was this Reddit post again? >> What was the question?
00:49:19
>> It was why do people hate Apple so much? Right. >> I thought that was an example question.
00:49:24
>> Yeah, that doesn't count. Have points. >> Were we getting points for that?
00:49:28
>> Yeah, we were getting points. >> And it's a closer game than you would
00:49:30
think. >> Really? >> Whoops. Okay, let's do Oh boy, >> guys. After that first question,
00:49:39
>> you said this is a close game. Adam, you are in second place with 90 points.
00:49:44
>> Marquez, you are in first place with 110 points and Mariah holding up the caboose
00:49:50
>> with zero points. >> Um, >> it's okay, Mariah. The questions you
00:49:54
guys left on the board were uh number nine, people think hating popular things makes them smart. That's number eight
00:50:01
was an HP elite book comparison. >> And number two, the variation on they don't suck is people who hate it haven't
00:50:10
actually used. >> That's a good one. >> By the way, 14 people commented about
00:50:14
the HP Elite book. >> Wow. >> What forum was this on? >> Reddit.com r/Mac.
00:50:20
>> Oh, okay. >> Oh, yeah. We should read the subre or something. >> Guys, this next question.
00:50:26
>> Okay. >> Okay. >> Yeah. >> No, wait. >> I'm ready guys. Guys, let's just give it
00:50:30
up for Rufus. This is This is one of my favorite we've ever done. >> Um, kicking off this next question. Very
00:50:36
similar. This is on r/mputers. >> Caputo. >> Computa. >> Why does everyone hate Windows 11?
00:50:44
>> The ads, bro. >> Number 10 answer. Ads in the OS. >> That's number 10. Yep.
00:50:50
>> There's worse. >> Hate Windows 11. >> The bugs. >> The bugs is just going to run down the
00:50:56
list. >> Yeah, that is number eight. >> Oh, damn. Okay. Really not that bad.
00:50:59
>> It's worse than Windows 10. >> Mhm. >> Okay. Um the aesthetics.
00:51:06
>> It's not very clean or polished or good looking. >> No, I'm going to I'm not going to give
00:51:10
this. >> Okay. All right. Privacy. >> Yep. >> Privacy is Yeah. What number is that?
00:51:16
Four. Five. The number five answer worth 27 points. Damn right. Adam, you control
00:51:21
the board. Um Okay. Next up after privacy, the obvious answer is build quality. Uh, this is Windows 11, which is an
00:51:30
operating system. >> Yeah, it comes on laptops, does it not? >> It comes on everything.
00:51:34
>> AI. We hate AI. >> AI is the number two answer. >> With 38 points, she is officially here,
00:51:40
folks. >> Nice. >> Mariah, you have control. >> Oh, no. >> Uh, we hate McAfee.
00:51:48
>> Good answer. >> Number one. No, >> no one said that. >> Got him.
00:51:54
>> Uh, I'm Wait, wait, wait, wait. Oh, no. No, no. Bloatware and AI features were
00:51:58
bundled into one. Unfortunately, yes, Adam, I'm sorry. You >> Adam. >> Yeah. No, it's fine. Yeah, whatever. No,
00:52:03
Mariah gets the ghost, though. She has control. >> No, I went wrong. I was wrong cuz I
00:52:07
said, >> "Oh, we're bundling it." Okay. >> Um Oh, man. I never thought I'd make it
00:52:12
this far. Um >> we hate Windows 11 because of the We already Did we talk about the tiles? We
00:52:19
said You said design or UI, right? >> I did. >> Tiles we see in tiles on here.
00:52:25
>> I feel like this is Okay, we got we got to explain this. Marquez, you said the design and we said
00:52:30
no. However, UI changes are on here, but I do believe tiles was brought into the
00:52:36
Windows Windows 8. >> Yeah, that's old. That's old. >> So, but honestly, just to make it a more
00:52:41
competitive game, uh, let's give Mariah the points. >> We're so back.
00:52:47
>> David, I'm going to make you proud myself. >> Okay, Mariah. >> You have the control of the board once
00:52:53
again. >> Oh, man. Other things that we hate. Um, >> the number one answer is still on the
00:52:57
board, folks. >> That's right. >> I got this. I got this. >> I know what it is.
00:53:01
>> On. >> I feel like we've said all the main things that we don't like.
00:53:05
>> We did not. >> What else is there? >> Right. I'm going to start as 5 seconds.
00:53:10
>> So many things. >> There's so many. >> We don't like the game hub. It's
00:53:14
terrible. >> I don't see game. >> I know. No one cares. >> We actually do like Windows.
00:53:22
>> Good guess. >> That was Dang it. That was my guess. >> Unanimously hate it. There are no left
00:53:28
turns in this one. Unbelievable hates it. >> Can you read the the threat again? The
00:53:32
title of it. >> Fred again >> or the >> Why does everyone hate Windows 11?
00:53:36
>> Okay. >> Copilot >> bundled into AI features. >> Because they all use Macs and they're
00:53:45
too dumb to learn Windows. >> I'm trying to think like a Redditor right now.
00:53:49
>> Wait. Okay, great point. Think like a Redditor because Linux is better.
00:53:53
>> Mhm. Oh yeah. >> Oh, it should be there, but it's not. >> Ah,
00:53:57
>> we miss Windows 10. >> These are all Damn, we're better editors
00:54:02
than Redditors. >> Yeah, it's crazy. >> We're thinking too small.
00:54:05
>> Okay, wait. >> What's that weird thing that like screenshots your whole history? We don't
00:54:09
like that. >> Okay, never mind. >> No, that's um >> Is that No, it's called recall.
00:54:14
>> Recall. >> It's also written down in that same answer. >> Okay. Okay.
00:54:18
>> We've hit the number two answer like five times. >> We haven't hit number one.
00:54:22
>> Nope. Oh, she'll never >> damn. >> You're missing a few textbook classic
00:54:26
Microsoft complaints. >> Oh, we said AI already. Uh because they didn't add I don't know.
00:54:37
>> Mariah, >> we don't like Microsoft. No. >> System requirements.
00:54:42
>> There are two answers on the board that involve Microsoft, but not It's a little
00:54:46
too general. >> We don't trust Microsoft. >> No, it's still too general. What does
00:54:51
Windows do that you hate? >> That I hate? >> Yeah. >> What does Windows do that you wish it
00:54:58
didn't? >> Oh, because it doesn't Oh, that's different. I was going to say it doesn't
00:55:02
have all the Apple apps in Final Cut, stuff like that. >> Too many pop-ups.
00:55:08
>> What does it do that I wish it didn't? >> What does Windows do that you wish it
00:55:13
did not do? >> It's incompatible with >> Oh. Oh. >> random forced updates.
00:55:18
>> Yes. Man, >> is that number one? >> Number nine. >> Oh, what?
00:55:24
>> What is number one? >> Number one. >> Is that like three points?
00:55:27
>> Something insane. >> What is number one? It has to do with >> related to Microsoft.
00:55:32
>> Yeah. Wait. Okay, maybe we should brainstorm. >> Marquez, you said you said bugs, right,
00:55:36
earlier? I think that might be the number four answer. I think that cuz it's talking about I think
00:55:40
>> I we could but he we already gave him an answer for it. So, we give him double
00:55:45
the points. >> That's true. >> What about Microsoft? So either somebody
00:55:48
hits the specific stays on there. >> What do we not like about Windows 11?
00:55:52
>> Oh yeah, Windows 11 specific. Andrew is like screaming at home right now.
00:55:55
>> Yeah, this is >> Oh. Oh, >> drivers. >> Oh. >> Uh
00:56:00
>> I think >> driver updates drivers have gotten pretty good system requirements perhaps.
00:56:06
What? What about explain >> the minimum system requirements are always so high.
00:56:11
>> Mhm. >> Yep. >> Yeah, we'll give it to you answer >> that. Number one. No, the number three
00:56:16
answer was hardware requirements forcing e-waste from older compatible unsupported PCs.
00:56:21
>> Whoa. Shout out to Reddit for caring about e-waste. >> Redditors love the environment.
00:56:25
>> That's awesome. >> We still don't have number one. >> That's insane.
00:56:29
>> That's crazy. >> They're all banging on their keyboards right now.
00:56:32
>> Yeah. >> It's gotten too expensive. >> I think that Damn it.
00:56:36
>> Yeah. What do you need to run Windows? >> Marquez. You need a You need a GPU.
00:56:50
>> Can't get one of those. >> Yeah. >> RAM. >> No. >> Damn.
00:56:54
>> What's funny is that this is something that you also need to use a Mac.
00:56:57
>> Huh? >> No. >> No. >> I'm confused. >> Are you sure about that?
00:57:00
>> You do not need the equivalent thing from Apple to do this. >> Never mind.
00:57:03
>> The equivalent. >> Guys, I think it's time to wrap this one up.
00:57:06
>> I don't know, man. >> Wait, we don't know. Tower. PC tower.
00:57:10
>> Number one answer. forced Microsoft account requirement. >> Also still on the board, number four,
00:57:17
broken updates and system crashes after patching. And the number seven answer, we hate One Drive. Get rid of One Drive.
00:57:24
>> Nobody likes >> What's so funny is the number one answer is the reason my dad won't use it. He
00:57:30
complains to me all the time. >> You should have listened to the not get that.
00:57:33
>> That is the number one thing I was annoyed by when setting up a competing
00:57:37
Windows PC. >> It's so fleeting. It's just for such a short period of time. It's like an hour.
00:57:41
>> It's like the first hour you own the thing. >> So, we're going to move on to our next
00:57:45
point, our next question. And to round out the points, we have Marquez >> in first place with 187.
00:57:52
>> Adam in second place with 117 and Mariah rounding out the back with 61 points.
00:57:57
>> All right, we're not that far behind. If we combine our our forces, we can beat
00:58:00
him. >> We can beat him real quick. >> I just want to make sure something I
00:58:04
just want to make sure everything's right. Adam, can you look at your camera
00:58:05
real quick? >> Jesus Christ. Did you do it? >> Got it. >> Bring Andrew home. Bring Andrew back.
00:58:17
>> Oh god. >> What's the next question? >> This one is the one that David will be
00:58:20
sad he missed because it is from our solo traveler. >> I thought it was from r/analog.
00:58:25
>> Solo traveler. >> Why are you laughing? >> As he's solo traveling on a solo travel
00:58:31
right now. >> That's funny. >> This r/s solo traveler. >> Uh solo travel, excuse me. And the
00:58:38
question is, do peak design backpack? >> All right. Well, >> no. >> No.
00:58:43
>> No. Does anyone else want to try and rule this one? >> Uh, >> there's no penalty. There's no negative.
00:58:50
>> Lonely. >> Nope. >> That's all there. Okay. >> Too expensive.
00:58:58
>> No. >> The question is, do you bring your laptop on trips? >> Oh, no.
00:59:06
You got to give me more though. No, it's too heavy. >> Mariah, >> wait. Wait. That is the number one
00:59:11
answer on the board. >> No. Travel light with just phone/t. >> That's what I do.
00:59:16
>> Nice, Adam. >> That's the only answer. >> Thank you. Yeah. Uh, I have nine more.
00:59:19
So, >> number Wait, I still >> Oh, sorry. >> Yes, I need to work.
00:59:26
>> That's the number two answer of the board. Only >> only for work trips.
00:59:30
>> Yep. >> Can't stop working. >> Let's go right down the list. Number
00:59:33
three sometimes depends on the trip. >> Yep. >> Which one is it? >> What? You got to give me more info about
00:59:42
the trip. What's the differentiator? >> Am I visiting family or not? >> Nope.
00:59:47
>> Damn. >> Marquez. >> Yep. >> Sometimes depending on if I need to
00:59:52
write a lot on this trip. Type a lot. >> Keyboard. >> No keyboard. >> That that that would be the answer.
01:00:00
>> God, can I get a keyboard? Uh, no. That's kind of the only That's only
01:00:05
number two answer. Only for work trips here. >> Oh. Oh, >> if I have a meeting.
01:00:08
>> Uh, no. It's still work stuff. Damn. >> It's the biggest screen I can bring with
01:00:13
me. So, I'll watch a movie on it. >> That's pretty good. >> No. Watch a movie.
01:00:19
>> Make a movie. >> I mean, you could edit a movie on it, but >> Okay, that is
01:00:25
>> what >> the number Yep. The number six answer for photography/editing
01:00:31
needs. >> That's way better than I thought. >> Oh, wait. You You still get to go.
01:00:35
>> Oh, for solo travel. Okay. What else would they say? They would say, um,
01:00:38
>> I forgot we're doing solo traveling. >> They would say, "No, they don't even own
01:00:42
a laptop." >> That's a good >> nerds. >> No. >> Sorry.
01:00:48
>> They're like, "No, I don't want it to break on my trip."
01:00:51
>> Oh, that's a good answer. >> I don't have Apple. >> You don't want anything to happen to
01:00:55
There are there are other reasons that people said they would not bring one, but breaking is actually not one of the
01:01:00
ones listed. >> That's like my number one reason I don't want to bring your place.
01:01:04
>> No, I don't want it to get stolen. >> No, I don't want to get stolen is the
01:01:06
number five answer. Thank you, Mariah. >> Uh, yes. How else do I game? >> Surprising time. What?
01:01:15
>> Nerds aren't gaming. >> R/ solo travel. What would these people
01:01:20
>> solo travel? >> Digital nomad. >> Yeah, for work. >> Nope. I heard that.
01:01:28
>> You know what, Brian? Just to keep it competitive, we're going to give you the
01:01:30
number eight answer on the board. Long trips only, >> months, not >> digital nomad. She said,
01:01:36
>> she said digital nomad. I want the points. >> Different type of nomad.
01:01:40
>> You already have the points. We literally cannot subtract them from your
01:01:42
score. >> Also, yes, that is what you said. A nomad implies you're traveling for
01:01:49
>> digital nomad. >> Digital nomad. No, that's that is a it's like Tron. The
01:01:54
comments will agree with me. >> Okay. >> Um what else? Uh won't bring it because
01:02:01
>> how many answers do we have left? >> Yeah. >> What's left on the board?
01:02:04
>> Five. The bottom five or super quick tangent just before I forget. We were
01:02:09
everyone was talking about the Google event after it it ended and someone was like, "Yeah, I keep trying to do the
01:02:12
this Gemini thing with voice and it doesn't work." And someone was like,
01:02:15
"Well, do you think it do you think it trained with the voice?" And I was like,
01:02:18
"Benades talking to Lissan Algib." Oh, >> trained the voice. >> All right. I don't remember who
01:02:28
>> is up. So, buzz in somebody. >> Well, you gave Mariah the digital nomad.
01:02:31
>> Then Mariah has the board and no one should buzz. >> I don't know, man. Why aren't we
01:02:36
bringing laptops? >> This is This is We aren't bringing laptops. >> Well, is do you bring your laptop? What
01:02:40
do you think the Reddit community responded to the prompt? >> They said, "Yes, I have to day trade."
01:02:45
No, it's still business. stock exchange >> Marquez. >> Um, my laptop doesn't do anything that I
01:02:54
want to do on this trip. >> Uh, yes. Uh, I will I will quantify that as regretted bringing it slash barely
01:03:02
used it. >> Okay. Yeah. Okay. >> And then >> Marquez. >> Um, it's just another thing I have to
01:03:08
charge. I don't want to charge it. >> Mariah, >> did we already say like doesn't fit in
01:03:15
bag? >> Travel light. I think I think >> Oh, okay. >> Yeah, I think that's the number four
01:03:21
answer. Bring an iPad/t instead. >> Okay, nice. Sure. >> Sure. >> That's different.
01:03:27
>> Excuse you. >> Oh, I thought I thought we said that already. >> Excuse you.
01:03:31
>> Wow. >> Okay, so now we have three answers left. >> Three answers left. The number three,
01:03:35
nine, and 10 answers. Not a lot of points left. >> Laptop. >> What are the Redditors thinking?
01:03:39
>> It's cuz I brought my tower PC instead. >> Solo travel. Number three response on
01:03:45
Reddit would be >> where are you going? >> Oh, like people are asking.
01:03:52
>> Yeah, you're now now you're thinking with portals. >> Okay. Okay.
01:03:55
>> Not on the board. >> Okay. >> Um >> I think we >> are they like why do you need it?
01:04:02
>> Use case scenario. >> No, I think I think we can sweep this one up. I think we have enough. We have
01:04:06
three left on the board. >> This one up. >> Seems sweeping on your mind, Ellis.
01:04:11
Interesting. I'm sorry, Ellis. I love you. >> You okay? >> You guys made him sad. So, number three,
01:04:20
yes, but only a cheap or a cheap laptop or a Chromebook. Number nine, my phone got stolen. I'm glad I had a laptop as a
01:04:27
backup. Number 10, read a book. >> Okay, >> just read a book. >> Whatever. Touch grass.
01:04:32
>> No, that's not the same. >> Rounding out the points, we have Adam
01:04:36
now in the lead with 241 points, Marquez with 214, and Mariah with 92. Let's go.
01:04:42
>> I want to before we do >> Okay, guys. We could end this here. >> Thank you. There's I think we should do
01:04:47
this one next. >> Yeah, I want this one. >> Okay, good. So, r/con is the subreddit
01:04:52
for the Mandela effect, but it's different than the Mandela effect subreddit because in the rules it says
01:04:57
you have to approach this subreddit with the assumption that the Mandela effect is real and the past actually is
01:05:04
changing. >> Okay. >> So, it's pretty >> So, this like conspiracy theory. It's
01:05:07
like it's conspiracy theory but not like oh what if these conspiracy theories are
01:05:12
real. It's like this is happening to me. >> Got it. >> I have submission for the Mandela
01:05:17
effect. Fisher Price car. >> Never been a Fisher Price car. It's Little Takes.
01:05:23
>> What? I had one as a kid. >> Everyone thinks it's a Fisher Price car.
01:05:26
>> Wait, the one you reviewed on Fisher Price? >> We have one in the studio. You can go
01:05:29
look. >> Yeah, but who makes it? >> Little Tikes. Little >> What?
01:05:32
>> Is Little Tikes not a subbrand? >> Nope. >> No. I can see myself getting that wrong.
01:05:36
Um, guys, the the someone asked r/con, can your phone read your mind? >> Oh, yeah.
01:05:46
>> What did the conspiracy theorists of Reddit respond? >> God, >> they responded, "They have to be
01:05:51
listening to you all the time." >> Yes, that's number four answer. Phone
01:05:56
listening through microphone/ AI pattern recognition. Marquez, you have the board.
01:06:01
>> Um, >> which is a Jeopardy thing. I know I'm mixing up my games, but everyone shut
01:06:04
up. >> Yeah, that's fine. King your phone ringing your mind. Um, it seems like
01:06:08
it's reading your mind based on how much it knows about you, but it just knows so
01:06:12
much about you. >> Uh, real two. >> No, I think I think that might be the
01:06:17
number two answer. >> Oh, >> yeah. Coincidence algorithms are just really good at prediction. That's the
01:06:22
number two answer. >> Jesus Christ, Mark. >> Um, why does it think it's running?
01:06:28
Never mind. Um, ad tracking. Maybe that's just the number. M. Nah. I mean, there's no track.
01:06:37
>> It knows where I am. How does it know? >> Is that the Can we call that the number
01:06:45
one answer? >> I don't know. >> No, >> no, no. What would What would So,
01:06:53
>> honestly, Mariah, it I'm giving you the number nine answer. The number nine
01:06:57
answer is spiritual/ psychic abilities explanation. Yeah, this this ising basically from
01:07:03
here on out the number one answer is kind of reasonable, but everything else is crazy.
01:07:07
>> Okay. Okay. >> What would what would Redditors what would a Redditor type into their
01:07:11
keyboard? >> What was remind me the prompt again? Sorry. >> Can your phone read your mind on r/con?
01:07:17
>> Adam. >> Mhm. >> Neuralink. >> Yeah. No number. The number six answer.
01:07:25
>> The number six answer. Brainwave EMF thinking with phone technology. I was
01:07:30
literally going to say that next. Okay, >> Adam, it is you have it. >> Conspiracy theories.
01:07:35
>> Conspiracy theories. All right, I'm going to go with >> Bluetooth.
01:07:39
>> Oh, >> I do not see Bluetooth on here. >> Marquez. >> Eye tracking.
01:07:43
>> Eye tracking is not on here. >> I'm surprised. >> So, not like facial recognition. How
01:07:50
does it know to unlock my phone? >> Facial recognition is thanks to not on
01:07:56
here. >> How does it know what I look like? Where's the one about the >> How does your phone
01:08:01
>> know what you're saying? >> Does your phone read your mind? >> I'm a Redditor. Does your phone read
01:08:05
your mind? Um, actually, >> no, it doesn't read your mind. >> Uh, that was Oh, skeptical dismissive
01:08:13
responses. >> Okay. >> Wow. >> Way to go, Marquez. >> Okay.
01:08:17
>> Um, it does read your mind. >> This has got to be one of those want to
01:08:27
say more? What? What else would it like? Yes. And >> yeah, it's um it's reading your
01:08:33
thoughts. >> I don't want to give him those points. Just But only cuz he's I'm going to be a
01:08:38
little strict cuz cuz you're ahead. You know what I mean? >> Okay. >> It's reading your emotions.
01:08:42
>> Uh no, I haven't seen that movie though, so I don't know. >> I uh I think I
01:08:50
>> Mariah. >> Uh did we already talk about targeted ads? I think we might have. Okay.
01:08:54
>> Okay. Hold on. We only have a few more. We can we can wrap this one up if you're
01:08:58
if you're curious with the with the Yes, Mariah. >> That's your answer.
01:09:02
>> We don't have number one yet, right? >> We don't have number one.
01:09:04
>> Can I include like Facebook conspiracy related things on this? >> No. Well, what do you mean?
01:09:10
>> I don't know, man. Just Facebook. >> Facebook. >> Facebook.
01:09:14
>> No. I got one. If you were a Redditor, what would you what would you write
01:09:19
>> the Illuminati? Um, >> which >> secret secret group knows my where I'm
01:09:26
at. >> That's pretty That's kind of like this, but not >> I think that's closer to I thought that
01:09:31
was closer to that. I thought that's what that movie was about. >> This is like
01:09:34
>> This is like some This is movie. >> Who here has seen the movie Don't Look
01:09:37
Up. >> I don't think so. >> Oh, yeah. I've seen that. >> Was that the Give Adam the points then
01:09:41
just automatically? I I haven't seen it. Have you seen it? >> Does he need these points? I haven't
01:09:45
seen it, but I know a little bit more. >> It's four points. >> I know someone who needs points. You can
01:09:49
have >> giving Adam points. >> Yeah, Adam, you have the board. >> All right.
01:09:55
Reasons. >> Say more. >> Say more. >> So, because they want to sell you things.
01:10:02
>> No. >> Marquez. >> I feel like I've seen this on Reddit a
01:10:06
lot. This one time I was talking about something and then I got an ad for it. >> Personal story of phone showing exactly
01:10:12
what they thought about was the number one answer on the board. We didn't want
01:10:14
to give it to you earlier, but that was just too on the nose. Marquez. Yeah, I've seen that on Reddit quite a bit.
01:10:18
>> The Michael Jordan of of Reddit guessing >> from the logo. >> Let's let's go one more one more guess
01:10:24
from everyone here and then we'll wrap up this one. >> All right, so this one is, is my phone
01:10:27
reading my mind? >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> As answered by Reddit folk.
01:10:32
>> All three of the remaining answers on the board are insane. >> Okay,
01:10:35
>> Mark. >> The artificial intelligence is simulating a human mind, >> but we we cannot give you those points,
01:10:42
unfortunately. >> When we're just like, we're in a simulation. >> Yes, the number six answer. We are
01:10:46
living in a Truman showike simulation. Amazing. Mariah, >> you have control of the board for this
01:10:52
last >> conspiracy theory. Name another conspiracy. >> One of these is another conspiracy
01:10:58
theory. And I'll give you a hint. This one is for the girls. >> It's for the girls. Oh no.
01:11:04
>> Birds aren't real. >> What are we What are we lying about? >> I'm not supposed to tell.
01:11:11
>> Yeah. What did you guys talk about the last convention? What was the last
01:11:13
meeting? Gwennneth Paltro conspiracies >> goop. >> But what's the conspiracy? Come on, give
01:11:18
me something. >> Is she like I already said Illuminati. Um, aliens. >> Let me help.
01:11:26
>> Pirates of the Caribbean. >> Conspiracy theory. Conspiracy theory.
01:11:30
>> The blood of the youth. No. >> Adrina. >> Pizza gate. >> Okay.
01:11:39
>> Sorry. I got that. >> Can your phone read your mind? Uh, >> conspiracy, conspiracy, conspiracy.
01:11:48
>> I got nothing. >> I can't think of anything else. >> Well,
01:11:52
>> what did we miss? >> That's okay. I think we wrap this one up.
01:11:56
>> What is it? >> The last two on the board are the number three answer, manifestation theory.
01:12:00
We're creating these synchronicities. Or number seven answer, haptic feedback,
01:12:05
reading energy vibrations through hands. >> The crystals cryst >> the frequencies and the manifest.
01:12:12
vibrations. >> Holy crap. Okay. >> Okay. >> The point standings now are Mariah with
01:12:19
116 points at the back, Adam with 260 points in the middle, and Marquez with a whopping 360 points in the lead.
01:12:27
>> Is this a tech podcast? >> No, >> it's about to be because it's times to
01:12:32
hit you guys with the absolute banger of this game. >> The question is, >> this is an r/android.
01:12:40
>> Oh, let's go. Oh, I'm ready for today. >> I've spent enough hours.
01:12:43
>> I was in there this morning. Let's go. >> What is the worst Android phone you've
01:12:50
ever owned? >> Marquez. >> God, there's so many. That could be number one. HTC Thunderbolt.
01:12:57
>> Number three answer. >> No way. Really? >> Okay, good. Worst Android phone.
01:13:06
I want to go with a Nexus. I was thinking something similar, but >> Nexus 4.
01:13:14
>> Nexus 4 is literally on there. I apologize. >> What? >> Okay. Worst Android phone I've ever
01:13:19
used. Um, Samsung Galaxy S25 Edge. It's probably not on there yet. It's probably too soon for
01:13:29
that to be up there. >> Galaxy S8 Edge or S7 Edge. I forget which one it was.
01:13:37
Mariah >> Pixel 6. No reason in particular. >> Pixel 6 is on there. No way.
01:13:43
>> From experience. >> Specifically noted worth the battery life and overheating issues.
01:13:47
>> Let's go. >> Oh my god. >> Um, Galaxy S8. Oh, no. No. Yes. I'm
01:13:53
going to say that one. >> No. Okay. >> No. >> Worst Android phone I ever used.
01:13:59
>> What's the really really thick Is it Motorola phone? >> Oh my god. What's the big daddy phone?
01:14:07
>> Motorola. >> I don't know. I don't know. >> Motorola. Come on. Just name a Motorola
01:14:13
phone. Any Motorola phone. You can do it. >> What does Paris Hilton have? >> I don't know. You know the one I'm
01:14:20
talking about. >> I don't. >> She had a razor phone today. >> Can I Google this? What is this thing
01:14:23
called? >> Android phone I've ever used. >> Galaxy Nexus. >> No, that one everyone loved. I loved it,
01:14:33
but it had some problems. >> Uh, LG >> Wing. >> Oh, there's a lot of LG phones I found
01:14:42
here. >> Marquez. >> Okay. LG G8. >> No, that one was awesome.
01:14:47
>> Okay. LG G9. >> Adam. >> Okay. >> LG G6. >> The Note 7.
01:14:54
>> Yes. >> Oh, why are you googling this? >> I couldn't remember what it's called.
01:14:59
>> Listen, this isn't my life. I don't know all these phones. The Note 7 noted for
01:15:02
its explosion risk. >> That makes sense. That >> track did explode. >> What's the one that like exploded? The
01:15:08
Samsung phone that was the Note 7. Was that the >> That was the one. >> Great. Okay.
01:15:15
>> Yeah. >> Um >> H you know another Android phone. Um is there like a like a Razer situation in
01:15:24
here? >> Yeah, I'll give that one to you. Razer M >> was on there. Yeah,
01:15:30
>> I I'm only giving you that one because uh you're so >> What number was that?
01:15:35
>> Uh just Razer M. >> We still don't have one, two, or three, right?
01:15:38
>> Oh, yes. >> You have three. You don't have one or two. >> Okay. Okay. 125.
01:15:42
>> The first Android phone ever. >> Ever. >> Ever made? >> Ever made
01:15:46
>> or ever that they use, right? >> Is it ever owned? >> Owned. Owned. Okay. Okay.
01:15:52
>> Android. >> You guys were getting close to it for a little bit. >> Can I say the the Samsung Fold one? That
01:15:58
is not here. Okay, that is good. >> So bad. The bad phone. >> The Z Flip one.
01:16:09
>> I'm going to think of like phones that were bust of the year. Like it's not
01:16:12
going to be the saga salana. It's not going to be upvoted a lot, but >> something is a lot of old stuff on this.
01:16:16
>> It has to be a phone that people have. >> This is not upvoted. This is how many
01:16:20
people actually wrote this down. >> Oh, >> yeah. This is not up voted.
01:16:25
>> How many people wrote it? Yeah. >> Oh, I was going to say Red Hydrogen.
01:16:29
>> Oh, but nobody bought that, so that's not going to be up there. >> Um,
01:16:33
>> okay. >> Start naming phones, man. >> What's a phone that a lot of people
01:16:37
>> That's what I'm thinking. >> A lot of people bought it and a lot of
01:16:40
people didn't like it. >> The Motorola Droid X. >> I love that phone. It was lumped in with
01:16:47
Motorola Droid series/razer. >> Okay, that's one answer. >> Mariah,
01:16:51
>> what's that Windows phone? >> Not an R/ Android. Oh my god. >> Mandela effects.
01:17:01
>> Right. You just got recconed. >> Android phone has the worst. >> Guys, I can uh we we can we can wrap
01:17:07
this up if we feel like we're getting slow. But I will say got to get >> I don't know what an Android phone.
01:17:11
>> Adam and Marquez, you guys were circling the drain earlier. >> When When
01:17:15
>> LG G3? >> No. >> LG Wing. >> I said that. >> No one cares about that phone.
01:17:22
>> LG G5. >> No. LG1 >> LG4. >> The number one answer on this. The
01:17:34
>> G4 was sick. >> The G4 people said that it had boot loop issues. >> Oh my. The G4 was Yeah, it was. Yeah, it
01:17:42
was bad. >> I was going to say G Flex. >> The G5 had like the modular like pull
01:17:46
out the battery thing. >> Damn. >> But the G4 was was >> That was number one.
01:17:50
>> Okay. >> That was number one, guys. I think we should wrap it here. There is no
01:17:54
possible way. >> Oh, wait. No, I could get I could get one. Although, no one bought them. Like
01:17:58
Sony Xperia one. >> Give it to them. >> All Sony Xperia phones is the number 10
01:18:04
answer. >> What? >> Who even knows those exist? >> Six people apparently.
01:18:10
>> Six. This is a small thread. >> Okay. >> Okay. Wow. >> That's it? That's all of them?
01:18:15
>> That's all of them? >> No, there's more. Oh >> guys, the answers left on the board
01:18:19
include the number two answer, the Samsung Galaxy J series/ Samsung budget phones noted their laggy terrible
01:18:28
experience. >> H >> the Samsung S21 and S22 series for overhearing, excuse me, overheating and
01:18:34
people were upset about Exynos >> S20 Ultra. >> Uh just 21 and 22 series is what uh Quen
01:18:40
decided to sum up for us. It's just >> at number seven, 12 people put OnePlus
01:18:44
early models, including the 3T and 7 Pro, for software issues. >> 7 Pro is one of my favorite phones ever.
01:18:50
>> Yeah, phone is awesome. >> Interesting. Wow. >> Okay. >> Well, okay.
01:18:54
>> Um I think >> So, I won, right? >> Hear me out. We're combining our points
01:18:59
>> into one to beat >> I don't I still we would win. >> You still
01:19:03
>> You still wouldn't beat him. >> There's surely there's
01:19:07
>> surely it's not possible. >> Uh you would still be about 30 points
01:19:10
short. Oh, >> damn. >> Wow. >> Do you guys want >> Okay, Marquez, I have a proposition.
01:19:16
>> I think I think we got to wrap this game up and we'll we'll pick it up maybe as a
01:19:19
segment in the next trivia extravagana, guys. >> Oh, the lights are being really weird
01:19:25
today. >> Anyway, thank you for playing Reddit Family Food. Our final scores, Mariah
01:19:30
the caboose with 153 points, Adam carrying the one with 297 points, and Marquez absolutely dominating the field
01:19:41
with 446 points. Thank you for playing. Thank you, Rufus, for coming on today's
01:19:46
little segment game thing. Andrew David, we miss you from home. >> Come home.
01:19:55
>> Come back to him. >> You can't be far. >> The lights are so bright at the big
01:19:58
table. Come back. I missed my corner. You can bring all the new ones with you. >> The little ones.
01:20:03
>> Guys, with that, we have our actual trivia. >> Oh, no. >> Okay, I'm ready.
01:20:08
>> No one hit your buzzer because it'll mess up the computer. >> Oh,
01:20:11
>> is there another question? >> There is another question. It's also
01:20:13
about Google. >> No, >> guys. Google's official blog, The Keyword, which is notoriously wrong
01:20:20
about Google things all the time, um, has a convoluted and frankly confusing article about how Gemini got its name.
01:20:28
I've read it several times and I'm still not sure where they got the name Gemini
01:20:32
from. But you know what is not mentioned on this confusing article? What Gemini was called when it was re
01:20:40
first when it was first released. Because if everyone remembers, they changed the name to Gemini after a
01:20:46
little bit. >> Oh, I remember. I remember. >> What was Gemini called upon its release?
01:20:50
I know everyone's going to be like, "Oh, when it was released, it was a chatbot.
01:20:52
Now it's like a different Shut up." >> Like, I don't care. >> Not that.
01:20:56
>> I don't care. Tiny man. >> Got it. >> Tiny man. >> What are those tiny guys doing?
01:21:01
>> Yeah, they're they're stepping on your computer. >> They're inside my computer.
01:21:05
>> Yeah, they're working on Anyway, uh we'll be right back after the break.
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Show is fun, but we actually do have a little bit more tech to talk about. Believe it or not, it's it's a tech
01:23:20
podcast. >> Yeah, we probably should have done this before the game night, I think. For
01:23:23
those of you who are dedicated, who are really making it this far, uh we do uh actually want to chat briefly about
01:23:28
Fitbit Air, which is a new announcement technically from Google, who bought Fitbit and then turned Fitbit into
01:23:34
Google Health. >> And what wait, so what was Google Fit? >> So Google Well, Google Fit is no more.
01:23:40
And there was the the Fitbit app, which they moved into this beta which was all this new stuff. It is now the Google
01:23:46
Health app. >> Yeah. So, the Fitbit Air is their new screenless uh we saw the leaks of this.
01:23:52
We talked about it like two or three episodes before. Their screenless fitness tracker that is supposed to
01:23:56
compete directly with the Whoop and all the other screenless fitness trackers, but the the Whoop is a big one.
01:24:00
>> It's official now. >> It is. It's really interesting. I think
01:24:04
they're coming straight for Whoop's lunch because I think the number one
01:24:07
thing you'd probably hear from Whoop customers about what they don't like is
01:24:10
that it's an it's a subscription and it's it's not cheap. It's like $250 to
01:24:14
$350 a year depending on which subscription level you get. So, the Fitbit is 99 bucks,
01:24:20
>> uh, unlike the Whoop, which was 50, but that is in addition to a $9.99 per month
01:24:26
subscription to Google Health Premium, which is actually not necessary to use the Fitbit. So, you can use the Fitbit
01:24:32
without the subscription. It does basic stuff, calorie tracking, heartbeat, stuff like that. But for all the
01:24:36
features, 10 bucks a month. >> You just don't get like the AI health coach and stuff.
01:24:40
>> Yeah. And like the more detailed tracking and things like that and workouts, automatic workout detection,
01:24:44
all that fun stuff. So, it is definitely undercutting the Whoop price. And then for people who were thinking about
01:24:49
getting a Whoop or were thinking, I don't want to spend >> as much as I am on the Whoop, maybe I'll
01:24:53
I'll move to the Google side of things. It'll work on iOS or Android, >> which is crazy to me,
01:24:58
>> which is nice. >> That is weird. >> You know, obviously, uh, a lot of these
01:25:02
things are locked to one side or the other. Pixel Watch is only going to work on Android. Apple Watch is only going to
01:25:06
work on Apple's side of the fence, but, you know, these fitness trackers >> working with both is nice. And it's got
01:25:13
some nice features. So, it's going to have a 7-day battery life roughly. You
01:25:16
saw the different colors. There's like a Steph Curry special edition, but there's
01:25:19
also a black one. >> Uh, you can charge it for 5 minutes to get one day of battery life.
01:25:24
>> Clutch. >> It has a regular charger. It doesn't have like that. The Whoop charger has a
01:25:29
pin. Well, it has a proprietary charger. >> Has a proprietary charger. >> Charger has like a little puck that you
01:25:33
can like slide onto the Whoop itself. >> That is sick. >> It's really cool.
01:25:37
>> I like that a lot. >> I will say when I was using it for a bit, I would slide it onto the Whoop and
01:25:41
then just like go about my day. That thing slaps into everything. Every corner you turn around, you're you're
01:25:46
hitting that thing. >> But as soon as it's done, you take it off and it's right back.
01:25:48
>> Yeah, it's super dope that you don't even have to take it off to charge it.
01:25:51
>> Yeah, >> really clever. >> So, uh 50 m of water resistance. It
01:25:55
should have a haptic alarm. There's like a bunch of features you would expect in
01:26:00
the Fitbit Air. >> No notifications for Andrew, though. >> No notifications, obviously. No screen,
01:26:05
no time. Um, but yeah, as far as competing directly with the Whoop, it feels like this is just like, hey, do
01:26:11
the same thing the Whoop does. Give all the same information, but make it cheaper.
01:26:15
>> I'm really excited for this because I've been using the Pixel Watch 3 for a bit
01:26:19
and I was paying for the Fitbit Premium and I had the whole AI beta coach thing this whole time. And I really liked it,
01:26:26
but it required me to wear the Pixel Watch. And it's not that I don't like
01:26:29
wearing the Pixel watch, it's just that I also like wearing regular watches. So
01:26:32
whenever I would wear a different watch, I all of a sudden wouldn't get my steps.
01:26:36
I wouldn't get my sleep tracking. I wouldn't get all these things. And it's
01:26:39
like, it's not a big deal. Who cares? Whatever. It's not the end of the world.
01:26:41
But it's just like a nice to have thing. And Fitbit to me was always that kind of
01:26:46
product where you just put it on. Like when it first came out, it was just like a small little thing that you put in a
01:26:50
strap, a band, and you can swap out the bands just like this one. And it was like one of the first ones to do that
01:26:55
and just give you like basic tracking stuff. >> And that's all I've wanted for so long.
01:26:59
So I'm very glad that they're doing this. I'm just very confused that
01:27:02
they're killing the Fitbit brand. >> Yeah. >> Which makes no sense to me. Like a
01:27:05
>> Google thing to do. >> Yeah, that's fair. >> Sort of. >> But Fitbit is like it has such good
01:27:10
brand recognition. Like, oh, it's the Fitbit, you know, like now they're
01:27:13
turning it into Google Health, which has like a whole different set of implications. And
01:27:17
>> the product is still a Fitbit. >> Yeah. >> So, you're still buying a Fitbit,
01:27:21
>> but then you have to attach it to Google Health. >> Yes. >> Yeah.
01:27:24
>> Not the Fitbit app. Like if I'm on an iPhone and I go to Best Buy and I buy a
01:27:27
Fitbit, >> now I need to download a Google Health app, which hits different.
01:27:32
>> Yeah. It's surprising as like a legacy brand that they would want to rename
01:27:36
after how many years they have been Fitbit because like like you said, I don't think, you know, a boomer is going
01:27:41
to be like, "What? Google's tracking my stuff?" Even though Google's owned them
01:27:45
for years and they know what a Fitbit is, but they don't know what Google Health is or like, you know, all these
01:27:50
other things. It feels like a big >> unnecessary step maybe. But if they're
01:27:54
trying to consolidate the brand as a whole for all their health stuff. >> I mean, I get why they're doing it. It's
01:27:59
just I feel like Fitbit has such good brand cache. >> It does. >> Yeah. I think the one thing So, Whoop's
01:28:04
obviously already very popular and has been for a long time. And I think the biggest advantage I actually see between
01:28:09
them now that I I plan on testing them both at the same time, side by side, and really investigating and digging deep.
01:28:15
>> You're like our little lab rat. >> Yeah. Honestly, I'm just going to wear
01:28:18
them both. It's going to be horrible. But the thing that Whoop has going for
01:28:21
it is there's a ton of accessories for it. >> Yeah. >> That aren't available at least out the
01:28:26
gate right now with the Fitbit Air. I'm sure in 2 seconds on Amazon there will
01:28:29
be a ton of third party ones. But like when you go to buy a Whoop, there's like, oh, you want a Whoop, do you also
01:28:33
want a chest strap? Do you also want like a thousand extra bands? And also, we have underwear that you could put the
01:28:37
Whoop in. Like they have a ton of stuff. And the Fitbit Air, there's not even a
01:28:40
chest strap or an armband. It's just the normal bands on your wrist yet. >> So that's what I'm noticing. But I'm
01:28:47
going to test them. I'll have them side by side. So, I'll literally AB test like
01:28:50
exactly how long the battery life is. I'm going to do the same workouts with
01:28:53
both of them. I think it'll be really interesting. I also think they'll be
01:28:56
very similar. >> Whoop is really good at the activity auto detection. So, I'm curious is
01:29:01
really good, too. >> It's surprising. Well, the Apple Watch that I've been wearing for a long time
01:29:06
is not good at that. >> It does it sometimes, like if my GPS location is moving for a while and I'm
01:29:12
outside, then it'll be like, "Oh, are you doing an outdoor walk?" But I could
01:29:15
start biking. I could start playing ultimate. I could start practice. I can start running and it doesn't really
01:29:19
usually auto start. >> So, I'm curious to see how well these will like auto detect and then
01:29:24
automeasure and then tag them accurately. We'll see. >> Whoop to my memory cuz I haven't used it
01:29:29
in like a year or two. I think maybe like a year. But it doesn't detect it as
01:29:34
you're doing it. Like you have to go through the activity and then afterwards
01:29:38
it'll look back on your data and be like, "Oh, there was elevated heart rate
01:29:40
here and according to their phone, they were outside so maybe they're doing a
01:29:43
run." And then it'll like tag it as a run, right? You know, >> exactly that kind of thing. And then you
01:29:46
if it tags it wrong, you can adjust it. >> Yeah. But I do like on the Apple Watch
01:29:50
and on like the Pixel Watch, if I'm doing something, it'll just be like, "It
01:29:52
looks like you're walking. Do you want to start a workout?" Like that's pretty
01:29:55
cool. >> The thing on the watch is is when you start a workout, then it's doing this
01:29:59
way, way more granular measuring. It's doing like way more sampling and way more frequent measuring of heart rate
01:30:04
and things like that, which is why I start the workout manually every time because I want to get that data. So, I'm
01:30:10
curious like if I go start a practice or if I go start a HIT workout and then my
01:30:13
heart rate drops between sets, is it going to go, "Oh, don't have to measure
01:30:17
anymore." >> Not really sure how it's going to go, but >> both.
01:30:21
>> I'm going to So, my plan, tell me if you like this plan or if this is dumb. I'm
01:30:25
going to keep the Apple Watch on my right wrist. >> I don't like it. >> I'm going to have the Fitbit Air and the
01:30:30
Whoop on my left wrist. >> Okay. >> And then I'm going to do all my workouts
01:30:33
wearing all three. So, I have a control cuz I know what numbers I usually get to
01:30:37
the Apple Watch. But I'll do the workouts, I'll do the practices, and then I'll get both of the readings from
01:30:42
the Whoop and the Fitbit Air and compare them. >> Can we get you like a chest strap? How
01:30:47
do you feel about being chest strapped up? >> I don't mind that, but the chest strap
01:30:50
for the Whoop is probably going to measure differently from the arm strap, the armband for the Fitbit. So, that's
01:30:56
why I'm keeping them both on. >> Okay. Yeah, that makes sense. >> You You can do that.
01:31:00
>> You have fun. >> All three. >> You sound thrilled for me. >> Yeah, it's Yeah, I I mean, it's the best
01:31:06
way to probably test it. Um, would I approach you wearing all three? I might not.
01:31:12
>> No, I'll be I'll be repelling people from me for the three weeks that I need
01:31:16
to test them. But yeah, hopefully the video is worth it. >> Mariah, which one are you getting? Which
01:31:20
one? >> Um, probably. I mean, I got Pixel Watch already. >> So, you're not going to get a Fitbit?
01:31:26
You're good. >> I think I'm good. I do enjoy a low barrier to entry. I think a low price
01:31:31
point is good. And I don't necessarily need the screen. Um, it is interesting
01:31:35
that it does only save the data for 30 days. Is that pretty standard for both of these?
01:31:39
>> Well, I think that saves it on the device for 30 days. So, if you like forget your phone or your phone breaks
01:31:45
or something, it'll still track for 30 days and then it'll transfer over.
01:31:48
>> Huh. Yeah. I don't think I'm going to buy one. >> You know what's nice about You have a
01:31:51
Pixel Watch. >> Yeah. >> You know what's nice about the Fitbit Air is that also talks to Google Health
01:31:57
and so you can hot swap between them and they will just pick up where the other left off. So, if you don't want to wear
01:32:03
the the Pixel Watch while sleeping, the Fitbit Air can be your sleep tracker and
01:32:07
then you swap back to the watch during the daytime >> and it'll sort of just keep all the data
01:32:11
in line, >> which sounds kind of cool. >> I just don't think I need to track every
01:32:15
moment of my existence >> and have that data. >> Um, cuz I'm not trying to optimize, but
01:32:21
I do appreciate the people that want to optimize. >> I need the data. Yeah.
01:32:25
>> I need to know how many steps I've taken in my lifetime. >> Yeah.
01:32:27
>> It's very important to me. >> Got to hit that high score. >> Yeah. Well, there it is. I mean, yeah,
01:32:32
stay tuned for the for the video. Obviously, that's it's in the works, which means I'll be getting my hands on
01:32:36
both soon. So, TBD. >> Uh, but yeah, I'm just I'm just glad I got the points in in our little game
01:32:42
that we played. >> Speaking of points, though, >> my turn. My turn to get points.
01:32:46
>> Time for the actual trivia questions. >> Here we go. >> All the questions.
01:32:54
>> All right, everybody. >> Nobody asked except for me. How Many Google products and services have
01:33:03
the letters B O K next to each other. And this is closest without going over. Prices right rules.
01:33:15
>> Okay. >> Have ever existed. >> Well, there's there's Facebook.
01:33:24
There's the books. Palmer. Wait, this is but this is Google specific products.
01:33:30
>> There's Barnes & Noles. >> MacBook Pro. >> MacBook Pro.
01:33:35
>> All right. Who would like to go first? >> I'll go cuz I can explain my silly
01:33:39
little chart here. >> All right. What do we got? >> So, my number is six.
01:33:43
>> Okay. >> I don't actually know the name of six, but I figure there's Chromebook Pixel,
01:33:48
there's regular Chromebooks, there's Google Books, there's >> Google Book.
01:33:53
>> Mhm. That's four. And then there's probably some sort of like a bookfinder
01:33:56
service that they had. And then there's probably like a bookings service that
01:33:59
they also had. >> If there was a booking service, then it wasn't it didn't have the word book in
01:34:03
it. And Google Books was the book finding service. But I will say six is under the number I found.
01:34:09
>> Oh god. Wow. >> So you are technically still in contention. >> Okay. I had five out.
01:34:13
>> And you don't care to list any of them? >> Um, no. >> Okay.
01:34:18
Mariah, what did you put? >> If it's seven or eight or nine, you win. Well,
01:34:25
I'm gonna make David so proud. Um, I picked just a really round number. Lucky
01:34:30
13. >> Unfortunately, that is over. >> Oh, really? >> That is over because I just accidentally
01:34:37
spoiled the answer. The answer is nine. I found nine Google products and services. They are. Are you ready?
01:34:42
>> For times like these, >> I actually made I got a point. >> The Chromebook.
01:34:48
>> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> The Google book, >> of course. >> Google books.
01:34:52
>> Yep. Yep. Google Notebook, which was the precursor to Google Keepbook. >> No, no, no. Yeah. Then, then notebook.
01:34:58
>> Okay. >> So, Google Notebook and Notebook LM are two things. Then the Chromebook Pixel.
01:35:03
>> Okay. >> The Pixelbook. >> Uhhuh. >> The Pixelbook Go.
01:35:06
>> Yes. >> And and Google Bookmarks. >> Congratulations. >> Wow. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.
01:35:12
Thank you. >> Sorry, Andrew. >> Marquez, this is a big day. >> Yeah.
01:35:15
>> Because with that point, you have officially >> passed Andrew. That is Andrew is now
01:35:23
>> carrying the one like he has for years at 24 points. Marquez is smack dab in
01:35:28
the middle with 25 and David is still in first place with a whopping 28 points. >> All right, this is this is our chance.
01:35:34
I'm going to tie it again for you, Andrew. Before Gemini was called Gemini, it was
01:35:43
called what? Which is a little silly because it was only called this a handful of years ago, but maybe we
01:35:48
forgot. Maybe we forgot. >> And I think it was only called this for like >> months,
01:35:53
>> eight months or something. >> Yeah. And I don't know why they changed
01:35:56
it. Uh >> because branding. >> They just thought of a better name. They're like, "Time to kill another
01:36:02
thing." >> Did they think of a better name though? I don't know that to be true.
01:36:06
>> I Yeah, I don't know. >> I mean, this was a pretty poor name if
01:36:09
it's the one I'm thinking of. >> I thought it was a great name. >> Well, we'll see. Okay.
01:36:14
>> All right. Adam, why since you think it's such a a poor name, why don't you
01:36:17
read the name first? >> Terrible branding name, not a name. I went with Google Bard.
01:36:23
>> Googlebard. >> Oh, >> is correct. >> I knew that. >> Marquez, what did you put?
01:36:28
>> I want to see what Mariah put. I put Bard. >> Bard? >> Yeah.
01:36:32
>> Is correct. >> Nice. Thank you. >> Mariah, you also put bard.
01:36:35
>> In hindsight, I did actually know that information, but I was along the um
01:36:40
astrological sign, so I put what is zodiac killer. >> Whoa. You spelled zodiac wrong.
01:36:46
>> Oh, >> it's the thought. It's the thought. Audio listeners don't know the
01:36:50
difference. >> When Google name when Google eventually kills Gemini at some point, they can
01:36:56
call themselves the Zodiac Killers. >> Zodiac Killers. There we go. >> It's available.
01:37:00
>> Yeah. >> Well, with that, >> thank you listeners for sticking with us
01:37:04
throughout this whole ordeal. If you're still here, comment. I don't know. What
01:37:09
should they comment, Marquez? >> Pancake mix. >> Pancake mix. There you go.
01:37:12
>> Yeah. Bisquick, >> if you made if you made it this far, comment comment pancake mix. Just just
01:37:17
the bisquick and the and the egg and the milk and then the whisk. >> Wait, how do you say nesquick? The same
01:37:23
thing. >> Throw in the oven. 350 >> egg. >> There you go. >> Egg is crazy. Egg is a y is crazy. Egg.
01:37:32
>> Wait, how do you guys say it? >> Egg. >> And >> give me some Give me an egg for that
01:37:37
pancake mix. >> They sound similar enough to me. I'll let the commenters decide.
01:37:45
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