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The way you want is the most impact with
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the least amount of sacrifice. Make it
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easy and also maximum impact.
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>> Hi everyone, this is Pivot from New York
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Magazine and the Vox Media Podcast
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Network. I'm Cara Swisser
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>> and I'm Scott Galloway.
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>> Before we do anything, I'd like to point
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out that as of this episode drops, it's
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been 42 days since the deadline passed
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for the DOJ to release all the Epstein
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files. Though, we do have an update. DOJ
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officials said in a court filing this
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week that they expect to release the
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files quote in the near term, but they
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did not provide a specific date. Pam
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Bondi, get on it. Scott, after Sunday's
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bonus episode about the violence in
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Minnesota, we've gotten a mountain of
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responses to our discussion of the
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economic strike that you suggested. I
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know you're working on something and
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we'll talk about that in a minute. But
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first, here's what some of our listeners
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had to say. I'm seeing online some
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suggestions of people stop paying their
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income tax by updating their W2.
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>> I and many of my colleagues are watching
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with sadness a lot of anxiety and anger
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at the escalating violence and I keep
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wondering what if anything people
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outside the US like me can do that's
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actually useful. Reportedly, Vanguard,
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Black Rockck, and Fidelity hold half of
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the shares in two companies, GEO Group
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and Core Civic, which run nearly 90% of
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ICE detention facilities. If investors
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divested from these collaborators and
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others, could that put a stop to ISIS's
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worst abuses? And given a lot of you
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have been writing in wondering what you
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can do personally, we asked financial
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educator Vivian Tu, host of Net Worth
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and Chill, uh, to give some tips on how
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to make an impact. Let's hear what she
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had to say. Hey Scott and Cara, heard
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you guys were talking about an economic
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blackout. I've got a couple personal
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finance tips. For our friends with a lot
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of financial discipline, you could
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consider changing your W4 withholding
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for your taxes. You'll pay fewer taxes
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throughout the year and then pay them
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all in one lump sum come tax time.
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You're not going to get to pay fewer
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taxes overall, but why let the
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government hold your money and do stuff
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with it for longer than they need to?
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Make sure you are taking advantage of
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time value of money. Up next, everybody
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talks about shopping local versus
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corporate, but another thing you can do
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is pay in cash. These local businesses
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often times might even give you a small
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discount for doing so because then they
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have to give less up as well. Wink wink.
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And last but not least, for the economic
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blackout, money that you aren't spending
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on buying stuff, make sure you're
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putting towards a really smart strategic
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cause. Things like paying down your debt
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so you aren't so heavily tied to
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financial institutions, but also causes
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that you care about that might support
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things like immigration or human rights.
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The main takeaway is this. Economic
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boycotts do not work if a small
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population stops spending cold turkey
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for one to two days. What we're actually
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going to need is a critical mass of
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people to scale back their consumerism
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over weeks and months. And even if they
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can only do it to 70 or 80% of their
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ability, that is going to have a bigger
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impact.
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>> Scott, you should know Vivian's upcoming
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book is called Wellend Endowed. I
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thought you'd like that. Um, but you
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what? This has taken over.
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>> She did not interview me. She did not
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interview me.
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>> So, tell me you tell me what what we
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talked about this a lot of people were
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talking about it. Go for it. Well, last
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night I was about to make love to my
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sweet, sweet lady and uh she put my
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penis in her hand and then it was dark
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out and she said, "I'm sorry, don't
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smoke."
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>> Um,
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national economic strike.
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>> Okay, great. You stepping on your penis
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there, Scott. Go ahead. uh my bluff has
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been called here and that is uh I think
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that America feels a lot of anxiety
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around its government not providing
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security and prosperity but terror and
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anxiety and I've thought a lot about
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this and if you look at where Trump and
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the administration respond they don't
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respond from citizenry co-equal branches
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of government or even the Supreme Court
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where they do respond really crisply is
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uh from markets and within 24 hours he
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backed off tariffs annex in Greenland,
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um pressure on interest rates, tariffs,
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when one thing has happened, the S&P has
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gone down or the bond market has started
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to get wobbly. So then the question
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becomes if that's the fastest blue line
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path to getting ice out of cities or to
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putting in more protocols or or just
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flexing that we're watching.
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The fastest way to do that, what you
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want is the most impact with the least
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amount of sacrifice from the cit
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citizenry
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>> to make it easy. make it easy and also
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maximum impact. I think not buying
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groceries is not a lot of impact because
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these companies are very low margin. Uh
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they're not companies CEOs that he
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listens to or cares about. So I
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bifurcated into two types of companies.
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What I call ground zero. Big tech
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controls 40% of the S&P. They are growth
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companies that are very very highly
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valued right now. So any any slowdown in
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growth could potentially have a
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disastrous effect on them. So that's
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kind of the soft tissue of the economy
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right now and where our consumer
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economy, which is 70% consumer spending,
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could have the greatest impact with the
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least amount of effort. So I've listed a
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series of big tech companies and um
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launching the site uh probably on
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Sunday.
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>> What's it called?
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>> Uh it's called uh Thank you for asking.
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in doubt.
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>> It's called It's called Resist and
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Unsubscribe. So, if you like what we're
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saying, don't like and subscribe. Resist
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and unsubscribe. I've also got the URL
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>> um uh unsubscribe February because to
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Vivian's point, it can't be one day or a
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week. It has to be sustained and there
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has to be a viral component to it. So,
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the companies in what I call ground zero
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are Amazon and I have instructions on
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how to subscribe from Amazon Prime,
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Audible, Amazon Music, Prime Video,
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Anthropic. You could pick what you want,
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right? You could
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>> Well, hopefully all and not only that, I
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don't want to tell people what to do and
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what not to do. People have different
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means point. Yeah.
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>> People have different means and ideas on
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how they can participate. And I'm not
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going to tell anyone to not buy
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groceries or not show up for work, but
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if you want to have the biggest impact
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possible, I've tried to identify those
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companies. Disney, Google, Microsoft,
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Netflix, Open AI, Uber, and Meta. And
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>> and then you've given the argument why
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why what they've done. So you can decide
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what you think is acceptable or not.
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>> The reason why I I really do think this
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idea is so powerful is you get a couple
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free gifts with purchase. Not only do
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you achieve the quoteunquote economic
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slowdown, but you have an outsized
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impact unsubscribing specifically from
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these companies that are driving the
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market right now.
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>> Two, it just so happens that the
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majority of the CEOs this of these
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companies have been especially
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sickopantic and
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>> played a really large role in enabling
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all this [ __ ] Whether it's Tim Cook
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showing up and prostrating himself with
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a Melania documentary, whether it's
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Amazon greenlighting a $30 million um uh
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documentary that made no [ __ ] sense
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that was just pure grift or bribery,
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>> whether it's uh uh obviously meta,
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whether it's Satcha Nadella sitting
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there and trying to communicate to
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people, I don't like it, but I'm going
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to continue to do it. Just want to
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remind everybody that back in the early
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30s, Hitler's rise was largely enabled
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by corporate CEOs who basically said,
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"If you destroy our trade unions, we
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won't speak up against this democratic
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slide into fascism." And once it got out
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of hand, it was too late for them to do
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anything. So, we have been to this place
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before where people used the excuse of
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shareholder value to enable and and
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basically not provide any friction to
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what is the type of terror. question
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because I think a lot of people want to
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decide like one of the things that's
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good is we're Scott's I've seen some of
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it is going to give you information to
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make your own decisions. For example,
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with me I got rid of arcade. I got rid
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of the one thing I got rid of
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>> not buying an iPhone
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>> not buying an iPhone. So
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>> canceling Apple Music, whatever it might
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be.
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>> Yeah, whatever. But if you want to do
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that and keep Apple Music, like we don't
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we don't judge you. It's just here's
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your the tools, right? Here's the tools.
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Stop doing Prime. If maybe if you don't
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want to cancel Prime completely, you can
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stop buying on it for like people should
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decide.
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>> People should decide what to do. And
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it's not forever, by the way. It's not I
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shall never use it again, right? Like
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orange juice people still drink after
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the boycott of Anita Bryant. That's 100
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years ago, kids. Um, but that's what
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you're trying to get at is giving people
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tools on does it have links to where you
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where you can do these things or just
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>> name of the company, all the different
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services you can unsubscribe to, a link
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to where you unsubscribe, the
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unsubscribe page, and a brief
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description of why we're doing this. So,
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the the ground zero is big tech
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companies. And also,
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>> the truth has a nice ring to it. I'm
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going from two LLMs to one. I don't need
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Anthropic and Open AI. I'm going and
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this is the one that hurts. I'm going
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from six streaming platforms to one. I'm
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not giving up on all streaming
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platforms, but I'm going to pair it way
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back. And the free gift with purchase
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here, when you start looking at this
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stuff,
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>> I found out, for example, I have three
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HBO Max accounts. I didn't realize I had
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three.
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>> It's not a bad idea to take some time to
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think where am I just spending money
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every month,
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>> unbeknownst to me, where quite frankly,
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I probably could pair back a little bit.
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So there's the ground zero. That's the
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big tech companies who will have an
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outsiz impact on your your absenteeism.
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By the way, the most radical act in a
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capitalist society, hands down, is
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nonparticipation. Yeah.
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>> And then the second group of companies I
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list is called the blast zone. And these
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are companies that are directly working
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with uh ICE. AT&T awarded 90 million to
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provide ICE with IT and network
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projects. Comcast, Charter
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Communications, Dell Technologies,
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Deote, FedEx, Palanteer, UPS. I list how
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you can how you can leverage your
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economic muscle against them and what
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how they are participating. You may
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decide that this is you know not for you
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or it's too big to give up. But I'm
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giving you a ton of options. There's
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ground zero outsiz impact and then
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there's the blast zone that is companies
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directly working with them. And I want
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to be realistic.
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>> I am not going to give up telco but I've
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switched to mobile from AT&T. I'm going
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to go from five streaming media
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platforms
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>> to one. And I think you can have a lot
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of impact here. I'm trying to make it as
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social as possible
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>> and hope that people join in. But I
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think if we're looking the for the
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lowest tax way on citizenry
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>> to get the administration
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>> to um to pay attention. It's about
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markets. It's not about ideology. It's
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about math.
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>> And it's about not participating. And
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it's the easiest thing I could come up
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with to have an outsized impact. We had
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a lot of stuff about people not knowing
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what to do and maybe they don't want to
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go to protest or fly to Minneapolis if
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you don't want to do that or you don't
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want to just sit around and doom scroll
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and activism. This is this is an one of
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the many many many ways. And I think
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it's great that you're doing this,
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Scott. Good for you. What streaming
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service did you keep?
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>> Oh, I can't say.
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>> But I I was I was talking I had we had a
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you know one of those family meetings.
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Yeah.
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>> I don't want to play favorites. Um
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>> um uh because I've already heard from
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some of the CEOs of these companies. is
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already out. And they're, by the way,
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they're not thrilled about this.
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>> No, they're not. I've gotten some
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>> I've got some that was the only that was
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really aha moment. We had a family
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meeting and I said to my kids, we're
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going to cancel it all streaming
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streaming media platforms. And I
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literally got that look like memo to
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self, smother, dad, and sleep.
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>> So I said I said we can keep one and
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it's only for February.
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>> Yeah.
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>> And there's a huge argument because one
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kid's into Premier League football and
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that's Paramount Plus and the other's
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like, Paramount Plus, are you [ __ ]
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high? I mean, and it just caused
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a near riot.
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>> See, that's the I had a discussion with
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one of my children about Apple Music.
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I'm still in the middle of the
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discussion about it. I was like,
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>> "Oh, yeah." So, they're like, "Okay, I'm
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off Apple Music, Amazon Music, but
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they're keeping Spotify." It was
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interesting consumer preference. It came
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down to Netflix or HBO Max was the two
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we distilled down to, and I won't tell
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you which one we picked.
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>> All right. Okay.
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>> But it's interesting to think about how
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you prioritize.
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>> It is. I was surprised by the push back
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from one of my children. They're like,
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"Wait a minute. All my list." I was
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like, "Oh, you know, but anyway, you
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have those discussions. It's actually
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then it ended up being a really
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interesting discussion about economic
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boycotts and what you can do." So, it's
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a great opportunity to talk to your kids
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and your and your spouse or whoever
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about the economic choices you make in
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life in general. Anyway, to be clear,
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the site isn't up today, but uh but
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Scott will let us know over the next
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couple of days. Um, and we will know
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activists around the country are calling
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for no work, no school, and no shopping
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today on Friday, uh, January 30th,
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urging people to stop funding ICE.
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There'll be lots of activities like
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that. But not just Scott Galloway, the
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great economist Scott Galloway, but
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Robert Rice is talking about this idea.
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It's really catching on the idea of it.
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Um, and it's well beyond just a
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temporary thing. It's like show you take
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a minute and look at your life and what
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where you're putting your money and your
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money is important. Anyway, I have an
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announcement now onto me. Yes.
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>> Guess what? We've named my show on CNN
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that is coming in the spring. I can't
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say the exact day. Well, it's called
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Cara Swisser Wants to Live Forever.
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>> What do you think?
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>> Uh, I think the tagline should be, "Oh,
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fuck."
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>> Is it really Cara Swisser Wants to Live
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Forever?
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>> It is. It is. It's called Cara Swisser
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Wants to Live.
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>> What if you have a stroke in the middle
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of the night?
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>> It's brilliant. Don't you think? That's
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what Amanda said. Amanda said that, too.
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like she's like, "Oh, well then it would
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more people would watch it, right?"
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>> I I would I think it should be what if
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we live what if we live forever question
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mark with Cara Swisser. I would I
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wouldn't make it.
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>> Oh, well, it's already done. Done. Done
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done.
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>> Oh, well then I love it. I love it.
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>> I love it. Anyway, well, let me just
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say, let me just very briefly say for
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far too long the longevity space has
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been captive. This is the idea behind it
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of rich tech bros, jack dude
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influencers, nonsense sellers of useless
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supplements, and some lady who sells
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candles that are named after her private
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parts. Uh, sorry, Gren, but you started
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it. Uh, well, after
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>> she's lovely, by the way.
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>> I know. I know you talked to her, but
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I'm taking I'm there's a new sheriff in
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town. After enduring endless
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conversations over the years, how to
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live forever. I can't tell you how many
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dinner parties I've been in with tech
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bros telling me all manner of things,
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none of whom are doctors. I I want in
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except I'm going to show you the way for
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the rest of us. It will be grounded in
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science and facts about the best and
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most affordable ways to stay healthy,
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happy, and smart. Also, I took ketamine
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so you don't have to. And Scott takes a
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nap in it, just so you know. That's
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that's what's coming for you. So,
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>> um, so a couple things. One, I think the
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market was screaming for another person
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without medical training to tell us how
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to live our lives.
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>> Excellent. Uh,
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>> I think that's what the market was
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telling us.
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But I talk to experts unlike some of
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these people.
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>> I talk to experts.
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>> I talk to But this the second thing is
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an honest question. Say you're not
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>> I I'm all over this [ __ ] cuz I have I
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now have too much money and too little
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time.
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>> Never noticed that you like to focus on
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your health. And
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>> I'm way too into this. And uh so the
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question I would have is assume you're
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an average income household. You know,
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80 90 grand.
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>> Yeah. maybe living in a city, maybe
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doing a little bit better than that, and
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you have insurance, but you don't have a
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ton of money to spend on the stuff. What
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are the two or three biggest learnings
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around changes in lifestyle that you
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would recommend to just
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>> the average American?
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>> I'd be happy to. It's just, you know,
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it's only six episodes. Maybe we'll have
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another season because there's so much
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stuff out there and there's so much bad
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stuff, by the way.
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>> I was hoping it was five. I'm sorry.
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>> Car Switcher wants to live. Yeah,
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>> Fisher wants Everyone else wants this
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series to end.
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>> Anyway, um that's okay. You can make fun
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of it. I love I love it. Um uh I say I
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would say well obviously the main thing
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about longevity is don't be poor. Like I
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hate to say that, but that's it. It it
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matters a lot.
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>> Well, that's good advice. That's not
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going to make anyone feel bad.
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>> But I'm just longevity is now going
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>> make more money. That's the same advice
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I've gotten from every girl I met at the
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Four Seasons Bar. Make more money. So,
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one of the main things, oddly enough,
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you know, sleep is important, obviously,
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diet and and exercise are important. And
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there's lots of things, you know, that
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everybody understands, fermented foods,
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um, uh, stuff like that and eating. Um,
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you know, the protein debate has gotten
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out of hand. There's too much advice to
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eat too much protein, but those are like
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around the edges of saving you minutes
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of your life. I think one of the things
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I took away was one there's amazing
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stuff going on around cancer research
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using AI cancer and also mobility like
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robotic stuff where people are going to
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be outfitted and the the addition of AI
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is going to change drug discovery cancer
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research every it's like astonishing
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that is really gene editing all that
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stuff is really moving fast and that
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will make a big difference in longevity
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or at least health span right that
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you'll live longer and not die of these
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terrible diseases the second one is G
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this is the science part GLP-1s Scott I
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I think you had one of the early people
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to this, but the benefits around uh just
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obesity is what
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>> I think it's a miracle drug.
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>> It's a miracle drug and every doctor we
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talked to talked about this and it now
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has followon advantages and so you know
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in very small amounts too and and that's
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>> talk about micro doing people I know I
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know a bunch of people do micro doing
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GLP-1.
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>> Yeah, I'm gonna I'm going to start doing
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that related to my stroke actually which
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is interesting. So um so anyway, so
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there's there's there's a lot of around
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GLP1's really important and everyone
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vaccines and mRNA vaccines. I I know
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they're controversial, but they're not.
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They're they're they're going to have a
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vaccine for cancer. There's that kind of
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stuff is really amazing. But I have to
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tell you the abs and there's all you
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know all that other nonsense, the red
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lights, none of that works really. Like
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some of the stuff you do doesn't work,
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but fine, whatever.
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>> Can I go through the stuff I do and you
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tell me what you think?
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>> Okay. I didn't do everything so I may
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not have an answer, but go ahead.
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Testosterone therapy
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>> probably good for you.
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>> This is that thing they did with Peter
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Atia. Um, red light. You don't No, you
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No,
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>> there's no scientific
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>> vitamins. A vitamin supplements.
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>> Some of them. Some of them and some not.
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Like a vitamin D, a vitamin K. Uh, some
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of the E super EPA stuff. Yes. Creatine.
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Yes. Some of them ridiculous.
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>> I do creatine every day.
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>> Yeah, creatine is very good. What else?
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>> What about um NAD? Either infusions or
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the pills? Most people just think
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there's no scientific yet yet not not to
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push them out. Not to push them out, but
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you know, peptides is a big moment here,
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but unfortunately a lot of people are
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using them uh ineffectively or
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dangerously.
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>> But is there evidence that peptides
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might have?
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>> We don't know yet. We don't know. Not
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yet. Not yet. That's a like there's a
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lot of stuff like we'll see. It's just
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how you use it and how it's deployed.
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Like in the beginning of GLP1s, a lot of
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people were getting shitty compounds and
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getting really sick, right? So don't do
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compounded these things. compounded. So
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it's it's a matter of the one that is
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keep going. Go ahead. What else?
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>> Masturbation. Great.
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>> Uh cold sauna or cold plunges or sauna?
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>> Sauna. Hot sauna. Yes. Cold plunges.
00:19:00
There's a lot new science show may be
00:19:01
really problematic on people. Although I
00:19:04
know all the bros love it. Um but
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there's all these these issues around uh
00:19:08
the shock and and different things. Hot
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sauna is absolutely one of the things.
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Let me tell you the number one thing
00:19:13
both scientifically and and both
00:19:16
causally and uh correlation is friends
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and family
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>> 100.
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>> I want to I want to come back to that.
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So next one getting plowed by six hockey
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players and rethinking everything. Just
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rethinking everything. Cara is that good
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for my health.
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>> It is good for your health. Just be
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careful.
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>> Just rethinking.
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>> But you you mentioned the one thing the
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only thing I would add the the the
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absolute key to longevity. You just you
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just referenced it. Mhm.
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>> key to good health and longevity,
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relationships.
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>> Relationships 100 a million%. And
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related to that is the use of social
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media and synthetic relationships. Lack
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of friction wrongly.
00:19:54
Lack of friction for your brain. Brain
00:19:56
plasticity. Play games with people. Do
00:19:59
different things. Talk to people you
00:20:00
don't know. It has real health effects.
00:20:03
Argue. You and I are going to live
00:20:04
forever because of our relationship. You
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know, I'm just saying that's it was
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really surprising. The number one thing
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and I'm not trying to be like all be
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have be friends. Talk to people you
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don't know. Do things that challenge
00:20:14
you. Um be involved in the community.
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The more you are in the uh online space
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with synthetic relationships, the
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quicker you're going to die.
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>> Anyway, I interviewed Timothy Snyder
00:20:25
yesterday, the guy who's the protest
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expert,
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>> and we were talking about and I
00:20:29
challenged him. I said, "Are protests
00:20:31
the new door knockocking?" And that is
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they're losing effectiveness. And he
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pushed back really solidly. He had a
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couple really strong points. He said,
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"One, when people organize, it creates
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an infrastructure for other activities."
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He said, "What's happened in
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Minneapolis, people organize and then
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they get a database of people, they
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figure out how to communicate with each
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other, and they've been turning out on a
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dime to observe ICE raids. And a lot of
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that is because the infrastructure
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that's been built through protest." And
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he also said something very powerful,
00:21:00
very simple. He said, "You feel better
00:21:02
when you do something with other
00:21:03
people." And it was so simple but so
00:21:05
puncturing. You feel better when you do
00:21:08
something with other people.
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>> Yep. And it's good for your health as it
00:21:12
turns out. It's very good for your
00:21:13
health and it's great to bring back
00:21:14
community. And again, neuroplasticity.
00:21:17
Anyway, uh moving on. We've got a lot to
00:21:19
any We're very excited. Scott's site.
00:21:21
What's the name of it again?
00:21:22
>> Resist and unsubscribe or unsubscribe
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February. If you like this idea, don't
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like and subscribe. Resist and
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unsubscribe. And also, please post. I'll
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be posting my receipts
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>> ideas.
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receipts. If you've unsubscribed from
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Amazon Prime for the month or whatever
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it might be, please post it to your
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social and try and drive people to the
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notion of
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>> resist and unsubscribe.
00:21:48
>> Yes, you can do something. And mine is
00:21:50
Cariser wants to live forever.
00:21:52
>> There you go.
00:21:52
>> Only Megan Kelly thinks that's not a
00:21:54
good thing. Anyway, moving on. We've got
00:21:56
a lot to get to today, including big
00:21:57
tech earnings and major social media
00:21:59
trials going on. So, let's dig in. White
00:22:01
House borders are Tom Hman. He of the
00:22:04
Baggo Money just gave a presser in
00:22:06
Minneapolis a little while ago, noting
00:22:07
he's on the ground to quote regain law
00:22:09
and order. It's Tom Tom says he's made a
00:22:12
lot of progress since he got there like
00:22:14
3 days ago. This follows Trump saying he
00:22:16
would deescalate a little bit earlier in
00:22:18
the week, but the violence hasn't
00:22:20
stopped. Uh Representative Ilan Omar was
00:22:22
attacked with an unknown substance at a
00:22:24
town hall on Tuesday. It's the latest
00:22:26
instance against a member of Congress,
00:22:27
Representative Max, while Frost was
00:22:29
physically assaulted at Sundance last
00:22:31
week, and both are Democrats, just so
00:22:32
you know, and quite uh more on the
00:22:34
liberal end of everything. Meanwhile,
00:22:36
the two federal agents who shot at Alex
00:22:38
Freddy have been put on administrative
00:22:40
leave. Border Patrol Commander Greg
00:22:42
Bovino has left Minnesota, but Homeland
00:22:44
Security uh Secretary Christy Gnome is
00:22:47
hanging on to her job for now. She's now
00:22:48
there's a lot of pictures of her her and
00:22:51
a head of lettuce going on three quart
00:22:53
and that there's a lot of infighting in
00:22:54
them in the between and among all those
00:22:56
people. Threearters of House Democrats
00:22:58
are backing her impeachment and a couple
00:23:00
of Republicans in the Senate are calling
00:23:01
for ouster Tom Telis who's leaving
00:23:03
doesn't give a [ __ ] anymore has finally
00:23:05
found his balls. Uh what do you make of
00:23:07
the changing of tact and also note Amy
00:23:09
Clolobashar has just officially
00:23:11
announced her bid for uh Minnesota uh
00:23:13
governor. Your thoughts?
00:23:15
>> Oh, it's interesting. I didn't know that
00:23:16
that Senator Clolobish is running for
00:23:18
governor. I think that's a great idea.
00:23:20
Um I think you know I've called this
00:23:22
before and I've been wrong. I do think
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this is a turning point and the
00:23:26
>> when I was in high school, my mom gave
00:23:28
me a bunch of John Irving books, you
00:23:30
know, the world according to Gar. They
00:23:32
made me just feel a lot better about
00:23:33
myself when I realized everyone else is
00:23:35
[ __ ] up and neurotic and having weird
00:23:37
thoughts
00:23:38
>> and it had a big impact on me. One of
00:23:40
the books that also had a big impact on
00:23:41
me was George Orwell's 1984. I think in
00:23:44
some ways it kind of might be the reason
00:23:45
I kind of went down the progressive
00:23:48
path, but there's a line in there and
00:23:51
I'll get it wrong, but it's basically
00:23:53
and the last act of the government was
00:23:56
to ask us to ignore or deny our our what
00:24:01
we saw and what we heard that basically
00:24:04
all of a sudden the government had gone
00:24:05
to no longer trust your faculties of
00:24:09
observation. Just
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>> it was the last and most important.
00:24:12
>> There you go. Thank you. And you always
00:24:14
have to one up me.
00:24:15
>> I'm just saying I
00:24:16
>> Why does Cash want to live forever?
00:24:18
Anyways, so
00:24:19
>> so I can be with you.
00:24:21
>> But down. Yeah, there you go. Now we're
00:24:23
like that stuff your corpse and have it
00:24:25
next to me like I'll just like a like a
00:24:28
>> I'm doing taxiderermy.
00:24:29
>> Yeah, I'm doing taxiderermy. Go ahead.
00:24:31
Go ahead.
00:24:32
>> That moment that literally that quote
00:24:34
just popped into my mind when Christy
00:24:36
Gnome or Secretary Gnome got up. Right.
00:24:40
We generally have these Judeo-Christian
00:24:42
values and I imagine there are also
00:24:44
other other religions. I don't mean to
00:24:45
limit it, but that says when someone
00:24:48
dies, you don't desecrate them.
00:24:50
>> And when she got up and was so
00:24:52
disrespectful of Alex Pratty and then
00:24:55
also claimed he was a domestic
00:24:57
terrorist.
00:24:58
>> Yeah.
00:24:58
>> And that he was there
00:25:00
>> and that he was there to massacre he was
00:25:02
brandishing a weapon and was there to
00:25:03
massacre federal agents.
00:25:06
>> I think that was Steven Miller. That was
00:25:07
a moment where I thought, "Oh my gosh."
00:25:09
I've never seen I've seen people spin
00:25:11
[ __ ] I've seen people exaggerate. I've
00:25:12
seen them lie. But I've never seen the
00:25:15
administration feel confident that it
00:25:16
could just look people in the eyes and
00:25:18
say, you know, ignore your faculties of
00:25:21
observation and trust, just believe what
00:25:24
we say cuz we're saying it. That for me
00:25:27
was that felt very weird and chilling
00:25:30
and like a turning point. And I think if
00:25:32
you look to Americans's credit, the
00:25:34
majority of people and a lot more
00:25:36
Republicans have said, "Okay, this has
00:25:38
just gone too far." And you know how far
00:25:39
it's gone when all of a sudden when all
00:25:41
of a sudden a guy who took $50,000 in a
00:25:43
brown lunch bag feels like the adult in
00:25:45
the room that people are relieved that
00:25:47
he's there.
00:25:48
>> I know because when he said regain law
00:25:49
and order, I actually think he's
00:25:50
probably talking about the cops
00:25:52
themselves or these these border patrol
00:25:54
people with the masks. Um, I had a, let
00:25:56
me just say, I had a very interesting
00:25:57
discussion with my mom, who of course
00:25:58
I've turned her to CNN because she
00:26:00
decided Caitlyn Collins dresses well and
00:26:02
she likes it and thinks she's adorable.
00:26:04
>> I think that's a good reason to watch
00:26:05
these people.
00:26:06
>> So, uh, one of the things that was
00:26:08
interesting is she she did not like
00:26:10
those things, you know, that and one of
00:26:12
the things that bothered her was the
00:26:13
meanness. It was, even though my mother
00:26:15
can be very mean, um, she didn't love
00:26:18
it. Um, and she one of the things I'll
00:26:20
tell you, she zeroed on the masks. Why
00:26:22
are they why are they wearing masks? And
00:26:24
I said, "No, police don't wear masks."
00:26:25
>> That was the first time judges that put
00:26:27
away cartel.
00:26:29
>> Yeah. She was asking a question, you
00:26:31
know, and I was like, "Well, because
00:26:32
they're private police and they want to
00:26:34
hide." And she's like, "Well, they're
00:26:36
worried about people knowing who they
00:26:38
are." I said, "Yes, because of the
00:26:39
things they're doing." And so, uh, it
00:26:42
was an interesting conversation.
00:26:43
>> Think about how ironic it is. We're now
00:26:45
deploying and coordinating unbelievable
00:26:48
firepower and assets in Iran or in the
00:26:51
Gulf claiming that okay, we need to do
00:26:53
something because the government is
00:26:55
executing people in the street.
00:26:57
>> Yeah.
00:26:57
>> Well, our government is executing people
00:26:59
in the street.
00:27:00
>> That's correct.
00:27:01
>> So that irony granted, it's not on the
00:27:03
same scale, but that irony is not lost
00:27:06
on
00:27:06
>> No. No. Let me point something out.
00:27:08
They're headed to Ohio to do this with
00:27:10
Haitians. Let me They're not stopping.
00:27:12
They raided a an election site, try to
00:27:15
pretend that the election was stolen in
00:27:17
Georgia. Very dangerous. Um they're
00:27:20
they're they're going to do this thing
00:27:21
in Ohio. These people aren't going to
00:27:23
stop. I just don't I know we're like ah
00:27:25
finally we've got him. This guy finally
00:27:27
we never get him. Whoever's controlling
00:27:29
him and I think he's not from what I
00:27:32
understand he's doesn't work very much
00:27:33
during the day. Uh someone high up in
00:27:36
the Trump administration told me he
00:27:38
works 5 hours a day. Um, so they're
00:27:40
another 19 hours is someone else. Um,
00:27:43
and so I think that that they're going
00:27:45
to keep going. They're going to go they
00:27:46
have Steven Miller has no shame and they
00:27:49
will go to Ohio. Um, and and JD Vance
00:27:52
has talked about this. When I think
00:27:53
about this on a metal level, I think
00:27:55
about the Trump administration and MAGA,
00:27:57
a key philosophy or cornerstone is that
00:28:00
they believe if we could just turn back
00:28:01
the clock and go back to ' 50s America
00:28:04
where white people and males were
00:28:07
largely in charge of everything that
00:28:09
this would be a better place. And
00:28:10
they're just uncomfortable with the
00:28:12
browning of America. They're
00:28:13
uncomfortable with more progressive
00:28:14
values. They're uncomfortable with
00:28:16
women's rights. And they just want to
00:28:18
take us back. And it's almost sort of
00:28:20
poetic is the wrong word, but ironic.
00:28:22
Renee Good and Alex Pretty. So, okay,
00:28:25
what do we have here? I mean, it's just
00:28:27
so I don't know if you've noticed this.
00:28:29
We have, and I don't want to be
00:28:32
reductive, but I'm going to be really
00:28:34
lovely
00:28:35
gay parents and a male ICU nurse. It's
00:28:40
almost as if they said, "How do we find
00:28:42
what represents the future
00:28:45
and
00:28:47
push back on it in the most heinous way
00:28:48
possible?" I mean, these two people in a
00:28:52
lot of ways and I's ability to sniff out
00:28:55
really good people. There was a story
00:28:56
about Renee Good and her partner
00:28:59
>> the day before circling the school block
00:29:01
two or three times cuz their kid
00:29:03
struggles with social anxiety and waving
00:29:05
at the kid to make the kid feel more
00:29:06
comfortable.
00:29:08
>> The sendoff, the the video you found of
00:29:11
>> of Alex Prey. I mean, this these were
00:29:13
these are really good. They're not only
00:29:15
really good people, but in a weird way,
00:29:18
I look at them and I think that's the
00:29:20
future of America, and that's what MAGA
00:29:22
hates.
00:29:22
>> Well, they will keep going. And let me
00:29:24
just say, they they do in particular,
00:29:26
let's not take the focus, they are they
00:29:27
have been targeting people of color,
00:29:29
like the immigrants who are hardworking.
00:29:31
Uh they're going for the Haitians now.
00:29:34
Um the people they're trying to weed out
00:29:37
are are very hardworking.
00:29:39
>> Well, I think this was accidental or not
00:29:41
strategic. They didn't say go find a
00:29:42
white ICU nurse. Yeah. But doesn't it
00:29:45
find you as is doesn't it strike you as
00:29:47
just very ironic and almost like out of
00:29:49
a play kind of? It
00:29:51
>> it does. The picture that got me the
00:29:52
most was that that kid I think he his
00:29:55
his parents were 5-year-old was just
00:29:58
like his parents are immigrants and
00:30:01
>> uh that got me the most. I have the hat
00:30:03
and then them sitting they're just
00:30:05
they're so um inhuman uh that it's
00:30:08
really the visuals are quite something.
00:30:10
Now, there have been visuals before,
00:30:11
whether it was the attacks during the
00:30:13
civil rights era, if you remember the
00:30:16
dogs and the and the hoses on on people
00:30:19
of color um down in the south or and
00:30:21
then there was, you know, the the
00:30:23
Vietnam photo of the girl running.
00:30:26
>> I was just thinking of that corpse
00:30:28
moment, the one the one the the child
00:30:31
dead on the beach. There's a lot of very
00:30:34
strong. Yeah, there's a lot the this is
00:30:37
coming at you so hard. That's what I was
00:30:39
talking about this week is that um but
00:30:41
speaking of photos and impact, Tim Cook
00:30:44
is finally speaking out in Minnesota
00:30:46
calling for deescalation. Thanks, Tim.
00:30:48
Um it's like as as bland as the quinoa
00:30:50
you enjoy. Um after facing a backlash
00:30:53
for attending the White House, Melania
00:30:54
premiere uh the same day as Alex Prey
00:30:57
the shooting. Um Cook noted in an
00:30:59
internal memo that he had a good
00:31:00
conversation with the president where he
00:31:01
shared his views. Sam Alman also weighed
00:31:03
in telling Open AI that ICE had go was
00:31:05
going too far. I think though he said
00:31:07
President Trump is a very strong leader
00:31:09
and I hope he'll rise to the moment and
00:31:10
unite the country. Both of them had to
00:31:12
compliment Trump and spent very little
00:31:14
time talking about the victims. In fact,
00:31:16
not at all. Um so very uh very I think
00:31:21
weak sauce responses uh from uh and then
00:31:24
and Almanaged to get a slap in at
00:31:26
Zuckerberg at some point in one of his
00:31:28
statements. um talk a little bit about
00:31:32
this because it's I'll tell you
00:31:34
internally at Apple it's crazy. People
00:31:36
are really furious. I can tell you that.
00:31:38
Um from talking to lots of Apple
00:31:41
employees and all levels of this company
00:31:43
and you know I think of all the
00:31:45
companies it's really interesting. Apple
00:31:47
feels the most betrayal if you if you
00:31:49
look online at least and I know that
00:31:51
doesn't represent everything but it
00:31:53
certainly is not a good look for him to
00:31:54
be standing next to Brett Ratner who has
00:31:56
his own issues. Um, and uh, and in a
00:32:00
tuxedo with the white it just the whole
00:32:03
thing. By the way, no one's ever going
00:32:04
to see this. Melania, one of the more
00:32:06
enjoyable things is people showing
00:32:08
pictures of theaters that sold zero
00:32:10
tickets. Um, because Amazon, why aren't
00:32:12
they more mad at Amazon who paid $40
00:32:15
million, spent $35 million marketing
00:32:17
this, and there were two there was
00:32:18
several Amazon executives at the event.
00:32:21
But what do you think about this? I
00:32:22
think we love Apple. That's why, right?
00:32:24
I guess. I don't know.
00:32:25
>> I think Tim Cook is the new Bob Iger.
00:32:27
and that is he's going to take an
00:32:29
incredible career and put a giant, you
00:32:33
know, [ __ ] stick at the end of it. I
00:32:37
there is an unfortunate but necessary
00:32:40
lesson in life around the intersection
00:32:43
between your participation in time and
00:32:45
other people. And that is the last five
00:32:46
minutes are the most important five
00:32:48
minutes. When you're at a party and
00:32:50
you're leaving, do your best to be as
00:32:52
[ __ ] charming as possible and go
00:32:53
around and say hi. And there's that
00:32:56
famous study where they're giving dudes
00:32:58
colonoscopies and one is just 45 minutes
00:33:00
and the other's 50 minutes but the last
00:33:02
five minutes they don't move it around
00:33:03
so it's not as uncomfortable and the men
00:33:06
who had the device inside of them for 50
00:33:08
minutes it was much more pleasant
00:33:10
because all they remember is the last 5
00:33:11
minutes which was not that unpleasant.
00:33:13
When you leave an organization when you
00:33:15
quit or you've been fired you swallow
00:33:18
everything and you could not be more
00:33:20
[ __ ] charming because that is how
00:33:21
they will remember you. Shockingly,
00:33:23
that's how I lead places. But go ahead.
00:33:25
You think I How dare you?
00:33:27
>> Or just on a more serious level, if
00:33:31
you're getting divorced
00:33:32
>> Mhm.
00:33:33
>> do everything you can to be as gracious
00:33:35
and generous as possible on the way out.
00:33:38
Even if it means taking some lumps,
00:33:40
being treated unfairly.
00:33:42
This this is if you've been married 5,
00:33:45
10, 40 years, everyone, your partner,
00:33:49
their parents, your friends, your kids
00:33:50
will remember who was the bigger person.
00:33:54
And Tim Cook, unfortunately, he's been
00:33:58
an amazing CEO. And I also agree
00:34:01
>> from everyone I know that from everyone
00:34:03
I know that knows him, including you, I
00:34:05
don't know them, they say he's a good
00:34:06
man. But here's the thing. This will be
00:34:10
this this small period towards the end
00:34:11
of his tenure where he shows up to the
00:34:14
White House for a ridiculous premiere
00:34:16
where he says he can't wait to spend
00:34:17
time with Melania when he shows up with
00:34:19
a with a a handwritten disc drive and
00:34:23
literally just is a sickopant to the
00:34:25
president and
00:34:26
>> in the statement adding adding the the
00:34:28
president.
00:34:29
>> That's how he's going to be.
00:34:30
Unfortunately,
00:34:31
>> you didn't put that in. Not this time.
00:34:33
That to me I was like, "Oh, come on.
00:34:35
Leave that out that one sentence. I just
00:34:38
talk what was what did you call our
00:34:39
relationship with Apple in that book
00:34:41
when I met you?
00:34:42
>> Uh Google is God. You know you pray to
00:34:44
it ask it for an answer comes back with
00:34:46
something. Amazon is your gut. Never
00:34:49
consumption you know more for less. Uh
00:34:52
Apple is your genitals. When you the
00:34:55
billion people have iOS are the most
00:34:56
attractive potential mates in the world.
00:34:58
It's the most subtle way of saying you
00:35:01
should have sex with me.
00:35:02
>> Well, I would I would argue more so. You
00:35:04
love I love people love Apple like
00:35:06
>> incredible product.
00:35:07
>> No, but they have a relationship with
00:35:09
it. The whole think different they have
00:35:11
marketed to you in a values way, right?
00:35:14
Privacy.
00:35:15
>> He's added more shareholder value than
00:35:16
any individual in history with the
00:35:18
exception of Jensen Hong. And
00:35:19
unfortunately,
00:35:20
>> but I'm just saying people have that's
00:35:22
what people are like why why do you
00:35:23
attack Apple when Meta is I was like
00:35:25
because we don't like him. We like
00:35:27
Apple.
00:35:28
>> Well, this feels like more of a
00:35:29
betrayal. We thought if there was one
00:35:31
person who was going to stand up and say
00:35:33
uh I have been a huge beneficiary of
00:35:35
rule of law and the progress of rights
00:35:38
in America and Apple's been an enormous
00:35:40
beneficiary of competition and rule of
00:35:43
law and what's going on here is directly
00:35:45
contrary to everything that's given me
00:35:46
incredible opportunities and created $4
00:35:49
trillion in shareholder value. We are
00:35:50
not down with this. But instead, he's
00:35:52
like, well, I'd love to hang out with
00:35:53
Melania. Just make sure that we're
00:35:54
exempt from those those China those
00:35:56
pesky China tariffs
00:35:57
>> and deescalate the word. This this
00:35:59
statement was such weak sauce. It was
00:36:01
deescalate. Like I also thought and as
00:36:03
Stephanie Rule actually correctly
00:36:05
pointed out, it was bland. And the one
00:36:07
from the Minneapolis Commerce was like,
00:36:09
let's de let's all get along. I'm like
00:36:12
there's there is a side here and it's
00:36:14
not with the police at this moment or
00:36:16
not the police. The police are doing
00:36:18
great in Minneapolis. It's the um it's
00:36:20
these thugs from from and they have
00:36:24
given Tim Cook and the rest of tech a
00:36:27
very easy way to say how dare you talk
00:36:30
about people like that which you were
00:36:31
just talking about Christine Gnome. They
00:36:33
have gone to a ghoulish place and one
00:36:36
person who did speak out let me just say
00:36:38
Venode Kosla went distel Keith Ra boy
00:36:43
was saying about the shooting who
00:36:45
because Keith was wrong as always. Um,
00:36:47
and he also got into a beef with Elon
00:36:49
Musk, very public about racism, which
00:36:52
was I I'm not surprised Venode is like
00:36:54
that. But like it didn't cost Venode
00:36:57
anything to do that. And Venote and I
00:36:58
don't agree on lots of stuff, right?
00:37:00
Sometimes he says, I'm like, are you
00:37:02
kidding me? But like he was a person,
00:37:05
right? He and this these statements by
00:37:07
Cook and uh and Sam Alman and the rest
00:37:10
of them, they're not you're not people.
00:37:12
Stop acting like you're not people. And
00:37:14
that's like having to throw in President
00:37:16
Trump as a very strong leader or I had a
00:37:18
discussion with President Trump.
00:37:21
How rich do you have to be that you
00:37:23
point of having all this money?
00:37:24
>> What is the point of being this powerful
00:37:26
and having to to be such a just a weak
00:37:31
person and a weak moral person that to
00:37:34
me I just don't understand. People keep
00:37:36
people ask me like what job is safe from
00:37:38
AI and I say I personally think if I
00:37:40
were to bet on one job that's only going
00:37:42
to increase in importance. It's things
00:37:44
around communication, strategic
00:37:46
communications, investor relations, PR.
00:37:48
And the two biggest communications
00:37:50
mistakes of the last probably quarter
00:37:52
happened in the last week. On a
00:37:54
corporate level, whoever the [ __ ] didn't
00:37:56
literally bodyb block Tim Cook from not
00:37:59
only going to that dinner, but but
00:38:02
getting a picture with Brett Ratner. And
00:38:04
I'm not I'm not going to make a judgment
00:38:06
on Brett Ratner's past,
00:38:08
>> but please don't read about it.
00:38:10
>> But that's just not a that's just not a
00:38:12
good look to be at the Melania premiere
00:38:14
taking I mean it's like the any PR
00:38:17
person who has any intelligence in Apple
00:38:19
thought, okay, I'm about to get fired
00:38:21
and I deserve to be fired. And then the
00:38:23
second biggest communications mistake, a
00:38:25
rookie move was for the administration
00:38:27
to create a talking point that, oh, you
00:38:30
show up with a gun, you're looking for
00:38:31
trouble at a protest. And also the NRA
00:38:34
came out and said, "Look," and there's
00:38:36
some data here.
00:38:38
>> If you have the training that uh Alex
00:38:40
Prey had and you have a license to carry
00:38:43
and conceal and you've never committed
00:38:45
so much as a misdemeanor, you're seven
00:38:48
to 10 times less likely to commit a
00:38:50
crime. There is something to the notion
00:38:52
of safe, well-trained, registered, you
00:38:55
know, carry laws. And
00:39:01
the protest is looking to get denying
00:39:04
people's right to
00:39:07
oh
00:39:08
>> he first amendment and now you decide in
00:39:11
one fell swoop to talk about violating
00:39:12
the second amendment claiming that
00:39:14
people that have guns are looking for
00:39:16
trouble and more deserving. The entire
00:39:18
second amendment is meant to prevent
00:39:21
this. we need to arm as a citizenry in
00:39:24
case tyranny takes over from the
00:39:26
government.
00:39:27
>> But that's not what he was even doing.
00:39:28
He wasn't even brandishing the word
00:39:30
brandish. He was brand that I think
00:39:32
gnome said that he was brandishing a
00:39:34
gun. He didn't brandish anything. He
00:39:35
never touched his gun. Brandish
00:39:38
Christie.
00:39:39
>> But that was just such a huge error on
00:39:42
their part cuz quite frankly when the
00:39:43
NRA weighs in and says this is [ __ ]
00:39:46
it becomes a very bipartisan issue.
00:39:48
>> Well, in any case, Tim Cook, bad show.
00:39:51
Bad show all around. I think you should
00:39:53
do an interview with Cara Swisser and
00:39:54
then see if you can make it through
00:39:55
that. Anyway, uh let's go on a quick
00:39:58
break. When we come back, Big Tech goes
00:40:00
to court over addictive products.
00:40:03
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00:41:03
Scott, we're back with more news. This
00:41:05
is a really interesting big tech trial
00:41:07
taking place that we haven't really paid
00:41:08
attention to. kicked off in LA this week
00:41:10
where a plaintiff is suing Meta, Tik
00:41:12
Tok, Snap, and YouTube claiming personal
00:41:14
injury through addictive products. This
00:41:16
claims uh features like infinite
00:41:18
scrolling and algorithm recommendations
00:41:20
lead to compulsive use resulting in
00:41:21
problems like depression and anxiety. Um
00:41:24
executives including Mark Zuckerberg are
00:41:26
expected to testify with nine cases
00:41:28
likely to be heard. Tik Tok and Snap
00:41:30
settled with the with the first plaint.
00:41:33
It's kind of a little bit of a big
00:41:34
tobacco moment. I and I know these
00:41:36
trials you never know where they're
00:41:37
going to go, but really people are have
00:41:40
not been paying attention to this trial
00:41:42
and it's in an area you and I talk about
00:41:44
a lot and there's plenty of plenty of
00:41:47
texts back and forth about obsession and
00:41:49
addiction and and there's a lot of
00:41:52
discovery here um that should be really
00:41:54
interest of these executives talking
00:41:56
about what they're doing very similar to
00:41:58
big tobacco. Yeah, we know when they
00:42:00
smoke it they love it. Like we know
00:42:02
they're addicted, that kind of stuff.
00:42:03
And so I think it should be a really re
00:42:05
I mean we know they know this and
00:42:08
someone like Tristan Harris has been
00:42:10
talking about it for years. I've been
00:42:11
talking about it. You've been talking
00:42:12
about it. Um you know and now it's got
00:42:15
to the dangers of suicide with young
00:42:16
people too. So any thoughts?
00:42:18
>> We're going to look back on this era and
00:42:21
decide that letting a 16-year-old on
00:42:22
Snap or on Instagram or on TikTok is
00:42:25
probably more harmful than if we'd let
00:42:27
16-year-olds smoke cigarettes or drink
00:42:29
alcohol. 6% of teens um qualify as being
00:42:33
addicted to drugs or alcohol. 24%
00:42:36
qualify as addicts to social media. And
00:42:38
the heaviest users are twice as likely
00:42:41
to have suicidal intent. They're also
00:42:44
the group in the highest usage are more
00:42:46
likely to express poor body image more
00:42:49
than the lowest use group. The bottom
00:42:51
line this is
00:42:53
to say this is like kids smoking is
00:42:56
unfair to tobacco when I I I mean this
00:43:00
is going to sound I said this and I got
00:43:02
a ton of [ __ ] for it a few years ago and
00:43:03
it was the first time I was featured on
00:43:04
late night TV. Not in a good way. Let's
00:43:07
do it again. Let's say it again.
00:43:08
>> Well, I said I'd rather give my
00:43:10
16-year-old a bottle of Jack and some
00:43:12
weed than
00:43:14
a Tik Tok.
00:43:16
>> Oh, no. I agree with you, but go ahead.
00:43:17
and and they played that and said that
00:43:19
was so ridiculous when I I didn't I hung
00:43:21
out with a Mormon kid all through in a
00:43:23
in a and a a great athlete in high
00:43:26
school and neither of them drank. I
00:43:27
actually think I could have benefited
00:43:29
from easing into alcohol anyways. this
00:43:32
social media that I've said this that
00:43:35
the the thing we're going to regret most
00:43:36
we're going to look back and think how
00:43:37
did we let this happen to our kids and
00:43:39
and even outside of hardcore addiction
00:43:43
I'm not exaggerating 60%
00:43:46
maybe 70% of the family anxiety
00:43:50
my family registers
00:43:52
arguments between me and the kids
00:43:54
arguments between the kids and their
00:43:55
mother arguments between me and their
00:43:57
mother revolve around the [ __ ] ing phone
00:44:02
and social media.
00:44:03
>> I feel you. I feel you, Scott.
00:44:05
>> And when we leave our kid alone and we
00:44:07
go on vacation and we're checking
00:44:10
custodio and he calls us and he's not at
00:44:12
school and we find out he was on social
00:44:15
media all night and and people say,
00:44:18
"Well, that's bad parenting. You're in
00:44:19
control." Yeah. That means you don't
00:44:21
have kids.
00:44:22
>> Exactly.
00:44:23
>> It's not a collective movement. If you
00:44:25
take your kid off a snap, he is then
00:44:28
further depressed because he's
00:44:30
ostracized because this is how these
00:44:31
kids communicate with each other.
00:44:34
>> It needs to be a collective action.
00:44:36
There should be no synthetic
00:44:37
relationship.
00:44:38
>> Collective actions. Can Can I add I have
00:44:40
to say one of the greatest moments my
00:44:42
parenting is when my son without
00:44:44
unbeknownst to me used Amazon to order a
00:44:46
box to put his phone in. Alex did it um
00:44:49
and lock it away to do his homework cuz
00:44:51
it was distracting him. You know what I
00:44:53
mean? like he this when he was in high
00:44:55
school I was really proud of him like he
00:44:57
understood the issue easily and one of
00:45:00
the things that's really hard um is
00:45:03
including for adults I was at one work
00:45:06
meeting and I made everyone put the
00:45:07
phone in the middle of the table it was
00:45:09
very uncomfortable
00:45:10
>> I'm addicted let me be clear I was like
00:45:12
put them in the middle don't touch them
00:45:13
don't touch them like oh I have to my
00:45:15
kid I'm like it'll be fine nobody's
00:45:17
nobody's going to get in an emergency
00:45:19
and if it is I'm sorry in advance but it
00:45:22
probably isn't
00:45:23
Um, it's really hard. And I think what's
00:45:24
going to be interesting here, we have to
00:45:26
move on from this, but let's pay we're
00:45:27
going to pay attention to this trial
00:45:28
because it's really important. But we're
00:45:30
going to read out some of the texts and
00:45:32
emails that these people know exactly
00:45:35
what they're doing and they they they
00:45:37
relish it. They relish the hold they
00:45:40
have on people. They relish the hold
00:45:42
they have on teens and they are very
00:45:44
aware just like big tobacco of what
00:45:47
they're up to here and no matter what
00:45:49
they say in public. And so that will be
00:45:52
stuff. We'll be doing dramatic readings
00:45:53
of that. All right, Scott, let's go to
00:45:56
on a quick break. When we come back,
00:45:57
we'll talk big tech earnings.
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00:47:11
Scott, we're back with more news. The
00:47:12
S&P 500 crossed the 7,000 mark for the
00:47:15
first time ever on Wednesday ahead of
00:47:16
major tech earnings. Tech, of course,
00:47:18
fueled it. Let's walk quickly through
00:47:20
the results. Meta posted a strong
00:47:22
quarter uh with fourth quarter sales up
00:47:23
24% year-over-year. That's really
00:47:25
impressive. His AI spending spree
00:47:27
continues with a projected capex of up
00:47:29
to 135 billion in 2026. Probably a lot
00:47:32
of that will be dedicated hopefully to
00:47:34
advertising for them because that's
00:47:35
where they'll get the most bang for
00:47:37
their buck. Uh Microsoft also shows no
00:47:39
sign of pulling back on AI, spending $
00:47:41
37.5 billion on capex in the latest
00:47:44
quarter. Uh 66% increase from last year.
00:47:47
The picture was less rosy for Tesla,
00:47:49
which reported uh a 61% drop in net
00:47:52
income for the quarter, down 46% for the
00:47:54
year. The stock is still soaring
00:47:55
inexplicably. Tesla is also scrapping
00:47:57
the Model S and X cars using the factory
00:48:00
space to build robots. He's going all in
00:48:01
on robots. I one thing I say about him,
00:48:04
he's when he goes for it, he goes for
00:48:05
it. and I've heard is some of his
00:48:06
robotic stuff is very impressive, but
00:48:08
nonetheless, he's betting the farm on
00:48:10
it. Again, it's investing about $2
00:48:11
billion in XAI. The combination of
00:48:14
robotics and XI and X, excuse me, um AI
00:48:17
to me is really important. I've talked
00:48:19
about this before. Um also, there's
00:48:21
layoffs at Amazon and related to AI and
00:48:24
Pinterest, very large layoffs. Uh
00:48:27
they're all sort of using AI to to to
00:48:30
cut labor costs. Um what jumps out at
00:48:33
you the most? Well, I think AI is going
00:48:35
to add a lot of shareholder value, but
00:48:36
not where we think it's going to add the
00:48:38
most value. I think the AI native
00:48:39
companies are overvalued right now. I
00:48:41
think the invi Nvidia, the open AI, the
00:48:45
anthropics of the world are probably
00:48:47
overvalued. Where I do think you'll see
00:48:49
an increase in shareholder value is the
00:48:51
application of it, specifically
00:48:52
autonomous. I think Whimo is going to be
00:48:54
a trillion dollar company on its own. um
00:48:57
targeting of ads and and making the
00:49:01
consumer experience better and creating
00:49:03
a better advertising stack. I gotta be
00:49:05
honest, I think I think um I think
00:49:07
Instagram and threads get better every
00:49:10
day. I think they're fantastic. I think
00:49:12
the consumer experience and also
00:49:14
>> so does Gemini on Google, by the way.
00:49:16
I've done a little poking around around
00:49:18
how an advert I just don't see why I I I
00:49:21
can't imagine what it's like to be
00:49:22
selling ads for MSNBC right now when the
00:49:25
person the person from Meta or Google
00:49:28
show up and show and show you what they
00:49:29
can do. Oh, you're targeting kids who
00:49:32
just got their driver's licenses in
00:49:34
Montlair, New Jersey. No problem. We can
00:49:36
reach them one at a time at scale
00:49:38
>> with perfect ads that are help
00:49:40
>> at the right moment. it ends up people
00:49:42
want to buy life insurance uh and you
00:49:45
know at 700 p.m. right after I mean they
00:49:47
just anyways um uh so Meta's earnings
00:49:52
incredible revenue up 24% yearonear
00:49:56
>> it's a big company
00:49:57
>> and not only that their employee base
00:49:58
wasn't up 24% I don't have the number
00:50:00
but I think it was barely up
00:50:03
>> and then
00:50:04
>> Microsoft
00:50:05
>> um
00:50:07
the one that was down six or 7% they
00:50:09
were up 7% the one that was down was
00:50:11
Microsoft because uh Azure didn't let up
00:50:13
its cloud company didn't um uh it had
00:50:17
growth of 39% which still topped analyst
00:50:20
expectations but unfortunately the new
00:50:22
expectations is that you blow away
00:50:24
expectations
00:50:26
um u but still Azure cloud computing the
00:50:30
demand is so great that Microsoft's
00:50:32
backlog of commercial bookings were up
00:50:34
110% to 625 billion there's some
00:50:37
concerns about over reliance on open AI
00:50:40
where as a whopping 45% of this backlog
00:50:43
is attributed to their core of a
00:50:45
trillion dollar agreement they made in
00:50:46
October. And also its gross margins
00:50:49
because of the increase in capex is the
00:50:51
lowest it's been in 3 years coming in
00:50:53
around 68% which spooks some people.
00:50:56
Tesla I can't even I can't even begin to
00:50:59
understand what the [ __ ] is going on
00:51:01
there. I think this this stock should be
00:51:02
down 90%. It's become a meme stock. It's
00:51:05
that's all I have heard I I suspect he's
00:51:08
just decided cars aren't the way to do
00:51:10
it and that he has some advantages in
00:51:12
robotics and several people have who
00:51:14
have called me recently and said
00:51:16
actually he's doing a lot of really
00:51:17
innovative stuff around robotics. It's
00:51:19
just he's bedding the farm on that
00:51:21
everyone wants to have an Optimus robot
00:51:23
in their house, I guess. But who knows?
00:51:26
>> But it's a I'm sorry. Go ahead, T.
00:51:28
>> He's done it before. Like that's the
00:51:29
only thing I would say, but he hasn't
00:51:31
shown. The other thing he's done before
00:51:32
is say we're going to land on Mars.
00:51:34
We're going to He makes promises he
00:51:36
never his mouth makes promises he can't
00:51:38
keep in in reality. So the question is
00:51:42
like getting rid the Model S and X cars
00:51:45
were made by Rivian and Lucid and and
00:51:47
and the Chinese, right? He's gotten out
00:51:50
of this business. He's not in the car
00:51:51
business anymore, it seems like. And so
00:51:54
the question is, can this robotics
00:51:56
business meet the challenge? We'll see.
00:51:58
>> Well, to be fair, they did beat
00:52:00
expectations, but let's talk about what
00:52:02
those expectations were.
00:52:04
>> The revenues are down of all the
00:52:06
companies we talk about. No one no one
00:52:08
is down. my you know what Met is up 23%.
00:52:11
Um and then overall a horrific quarter
00:52:15
their operating margins and that is the
00:52:18
amount of money you get to hold on to
00:52:20
was 7.2%
00:52:22
in last year in the same quarter this
00:52:24
year was down to 46%. That's like a
00:52:26
that's a meltdown. Their free cash flow
00:52:28
decreased 30%. Their gap net income
00:52:32
decreased 61%. They realized
00:52:35
>> they got a half a billion dollars in
00:52:36
automotive regulatory credits that are
00:52:38
going to be running out thanks to the
00:52:39
big beautiful bill.
00:52:41
>> People still believe in him. They're
00:52:42
giving him money for X. I think he's
00:52:43
going to merge it into XA. Like I keep
00:52:45
saying,
00:52:46
>> he's now using Tesla as kind of
00:52:47
nutrition for XAI. They disclosed that
00:52:50
Tesla invested 2 billion in Musk's
00:52:52
company XAI.
00:52:54
So this is, you know, and he's needs a
00:52:57
new vision, a new distraction, and as
00:52:58
you said, he's gone all in on Optimus,
00:53:00
which I think is going to compete with
00:53:03
the Cybert truck and the Segway and the
00:53:05
Palm is the biggest flops in history. Or
00:53:07
maybe the mixed reality headset.
00:53:09
>> Yeah.
00:53:09
>> The other thing that struck me was the
00:53:11
layoffs in Amazon.
00:53:12
>> Yeah.
00:53:12
>> And that is they by the way
00:53:14
>> 16. Yeah. But it's for different
00:53:16
reasons. Pinterest is doing it because
00:53:17
Pinterest is [ __ ] in subscale. I like
00:53:20
Pinterest. I like the people there. It's
00:53:21
subscale. it's going to have a very
00:53:23
difficult time. Um, Amazon laid off
00:53:26
16,000 people in their corporate
00:53:27
workforce, which doesn't sound like a
00:53:28
lot because they employ 1.6 million
00:53:30
people, but the majority of those people
00:53:31
are in their factories. This is probably
00:53:33
close to 10% of their corporate staff.
00:53:36
And this really is I've said for a long
00:53:38
time that AI is corporate ompic. All
00:53:42
these guys are going, you know, I mean,
00:53:44
Amazon has said they're going to double
00:53:47
their topline retail revenue in the next
00:53:50
five to seven years without a single
00:53:53
increase in the number of headcount.
00:53:56
That's AI. And then also I think the
00:53:58
place and Amazon's my big tech stock
00:54:00
pick for 26
00:54:02
the the collision and you've referenced
00:54:04
this of AI industrialized robots of
00:54:06
which Amazon has a million
00:54:08
industrialized robots and the total
00:54:10
number of industrial robots in America
00:54:12
outside of Amazon is 400,000.
00:54:15
So they have gone just as Musk is going
00:54:19
allin on robots no [ __ ] sense.
00:54:22
Amazon, Jaffy and Bezos are going all in
00:54:25
on AI driven industrialized robots.
00:54:28
>> They were there before. They bought a
00:54:29
company called KA many years ago. But
00:54:31
just so you know, recent Amazon layoffs
00:54:33
plus October layoffs is 10% of the
00:54:35
company. It's it's a pre they had one.
00:54:37
>> Oh, is it? Thank you. Yeah.
00:54:38
>> But UPS cut 30,000 jobs. I mean, these
00:54:42
guys
00:54:43
>> are
00:54:43
>> industrial robotics. That's AI. I
00:54:46
interviewed David Solomon from Goldman
00:54:47
Sachs on Prog and he said uh I mean I
00:54:51
they're planning to grow their revenue
00:54:53
substantially in the next two or three
00:54:54
years. Goldman's in a great spot right
00:54:55
now. Great leadership. They're doing
00:54:57
well. Uh but he admitted employment will
00:55:00
begin to flatten. You know, no CEO is
00:55:04
going to come out and say I'm going to
00:55:05
reduce 10 or 20% of my workforce, right?
00:55:07
No, they can't say that because then
00:55:09
everyone the best people start leaving.
00:55:11
But what he did say is it's going to
00:55:12
flatten. So what we're looking at here,
00:55:15
>> black is the new up,
00:55:17
>> right? But what this takes their
00:55:19
earnings and absolutely makes them go
00:55:22
crazy. And then when these companies do
00:55:24
well, everyone, you know, the S&P does
00:55:26
well because the S&P is now kind of the
00:55:28
SM, you know, the it's not the S&P 500,
00:55:30
it's the S&P 10. Anyways, these
00:55:32
companies on the whole continue to just
00:55:34
be extraordinary. And that is until this
00:55:38
movement called resist and unsubscribe
00:55:40
came along. Testicles meet Foot. One
00:55:42
more quick break. This is absolutely
00:55:44
true. O corporate ompic, take it away.
00:55:47
All right, Scott. One more quick break.
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Okay, Scott. Uh, you want to go first or
00:56:54
shall I? No, you're gonna go. You're
00:56:56
gonna I'm gonna I'm gonna I'm going to
00:56:58
make one quick prediction, okay? If you
00:56:59
don't mind. The Super Bowl is just a few
00:57:01
weeks away. Um, and go uh Seahawks. Um,
00:57:04
but I've already uh have a prediction
00:57:06
for the best ad. Lady Gaga, did you see
00:57:08
that? Singing Mr. Rogers Beautiful Day
00:57:11
in Your Neighborhood in an ad for Red
00:57:13
Fin and Rocket Mortgage. I don't really
00:57:14
care about the ad, but they they
00:57:16
released a teaser clip and she sounds
00:57:18
amazing.
00:57:19
>> She's got an incredible voice.
00:57:20
>> Oh, it's going to be the best ad. I'm
00:57:22
going to We'll talk about the ads later
00:57:23
cuz that's
00:57:24
>> That was not the prediction I was
00:57:25
expecting.
00:57:25
>> Okay.
00:57:26
>> It's very similar to mine in that is
00:57:27
we're about to uh engage in military
00:57:29
strikes against Iran. So, very similar
00:57:32
predictions.
00:57:32
>> Yeah. Okay. Lady Gaga. Okay.
00:57:35
>> It's just so strange that the Epstein
00:57:36
files are now a distraction for me. It's
00:57:38
like the behavior keeps getting more and
00:57:39
more depraved that we have to
00:57:40
>> say they're the safest thing in America
00:57:42
is are the Epstein files, but go ahead.
00:57:44
>> No, I I I've made this prediction before
00:57:46
and I'm just making it again. It feels
00:57:48
like I follow this I love this guy the
00:57:50
Gioar on Tik Tok and there's I mean I'm
00:57:54
f I'm sold I'm just fascinated with
00:57:56
military equipment and it just it
00:57:58
appears that all our assets are being
00:58:00
coordinated in the Gulf for a pretty
00:58:02
obvious reason and I don't know if Trump
00:58:03
is doing it for the right or the wrong
00:58:05
reasons maybe as a distraction but I
00:58:07
think he absolutely loves the Tarzan
00:58:09
flex of of leveraging the best
00:58:12
organization in history and that's the
00:58:13
military and it appears to me that they
00:58:15
are absolutely even the planes that
00:58:17
deploying to the area are like giant gas
00:58:19
stations in the sky.
00:58:21
>> Um I think Israel's on board because I
00:58:23
think they think it would be good for
00:58:24
their brand. So I think you're going to
00:58:25
see a coordinated some sort of
00:58:26
coordinated strike in Iran in the next 7
00:58:29
to 14 days. And that's
00:58:30
>> I think you're going to see a
00:58:30
coordinated strike against Ohio or
00:58:33
wherever they're going to attack the
00:58:34
Haitians who are not eating the cats and
00:58:37
dogs. That's where I think you're going
00:58:38
to see the next strike.
00:58:40
>> Do you think so? You you don't think
00:58:41
they're going to pull back at all?
00:58:42
>> No.
00:58:43
>> Yeah, you're probably right.
00:58:45
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