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Kristi Noem Fired — Her New Role Sounds Like a “Bad Marvel Movie” | Pivot

March 06, 2026 / 01:02:11

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We used to be the cop or the protection

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when we hear a knock at the door. Now we

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are the knock at the door.

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>> Hi everyone. This is Pivot from New York

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Magazine and the Vox Media Podcast

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Network. I'm Cara Swisser.

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>> I'm Scott Callawa.

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>> And where are you Scott?

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>> Uh somewhere over the North Atlantic.

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Cara, where are you?

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>> All right. I am in my studio in DC. But

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we we recorded

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>> Corey maintain eye contact.

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Maintain eye contact.

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>> Is Corey Luwendowski with you?

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>> No. Wendowski.

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>> Yeah. So, I'm fairly certain.

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>> Yeah.

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>> He's not going to keep his job either.

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>> I'm guessing. Well, let me just give

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people back it up for a minute. Scott,

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we recorded earlier but had to hop back

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on. Hence why you're on a plane and and

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I'm and we're redoing this. President

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Trump has fired Homeland Security

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Secretary Christy Nomer, giving her a

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fake job. Trump announced the move on

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True Social, saying Gnome had served us

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well and had has had numerous and

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spectacular results. He announced the

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Republican Senator Mark Wayne Mullen

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would replace Gnome. Gnome is stepping

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into a new role. Apparently, she wasn't

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quite fired. I don't know what this is.

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It's like a firing.

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>> Oh, no. She was fired.

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>> I get it.

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>> She's like special envoy to Hulu

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original programming or something.

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>> She's special envoy. Let's get it right.

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special envoy to The Shield of the

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Americas. I I I don't even That's like a

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bad Marvel movie. I feel like like the

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one that we don't want to watch. But

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let's talk about this cuz uh later in

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the show you have we we'll be talking

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about a lot of things happening right

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now for the Republicans. But um talk to

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me about this firing a little bit. Well,

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supposedly, I mean, you might have more

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information than me, but supposedly it

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wasn't the conflict of interest of

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having an affair with her number two. It

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wasn't

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uh uh essentially killing American

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citizens. It wasn't it wasn't

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essentially overseeing what I would

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argue are the definition of

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concentration camps and that is black

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sites outside legal jurisdiction or

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protection of your of your um origin

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country which is the definition of a

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concentration camp. It was supposedly

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what was the straw that broke Trump's

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back was that she had spent close to or

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over $200 million I believe on ads

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featuring her which appear to be uh

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courtesy of her her number two an

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attempt to raise her awareness for a

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presidential run that that that was what

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angered Trump. What have you heard

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Karen? she was advantaging herself and

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Trump likes to only advantage himself,

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right? And so anybody else who's trying

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to do that, there was also the question

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these two recent congressional hearings.

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To me, I I felt the writing was on the

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wall because Republicans in the Senate

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particularly were really going after

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her. So they knew that they had no

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repercussions to do so, right? If they

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had gone after her because they were

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good people or because they had a

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backbone. I think only Tom Tillis has

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been doing that because he's leaving.

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Um, uh, this is Senator Tillis from

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North Carolina. I think she, uh, I think

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they had permission to go after her,

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whether it was, uh, Kennedy, uh, John

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Kennedy or or others that really did

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attack her. Um, and the Democrats did an

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excellent job, too, bringing up all

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these issues you talked about. I just

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felt like it was open season on her, so

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to speak, someone who enjoys killing

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dogs. And, you know, even the reaction

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has been interesting. uh Senator Tom

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Tillis uh who was very upset about the

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disaster relief fuckups I think very

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much so and about also about f getting

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rid of people uh I mean going after

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people who didn't commit any crimes

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right just in terms of he kept talking

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about a quota system why are you doing

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it on a quota system in the in these

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hearings he his uh his thing on ex

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saying goodbye was Senator Mark Wayne

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Mullen is a great guy and a great choice

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to lead DHS restore competence and

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refocus efforts on quickly distributing

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disaster aid. That's the first thing he

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noted. Keeping the border secure and

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targeting violent illegal immigrants for

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deportation. Another big positive. He

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likes dogs. Um which of course is

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referenced to to uh her her killing uh

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her dog. Um people are having a field

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day about this of course uh on the

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thing. Although one of the good ones

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about Mark Wayne Mullen who was a

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senator from Oklahoma was uh he can't

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even have a border between his name uh

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Mark and Wayne Mark Wayne. Um, but no,

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they, you know, people, the Republicans

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felt emboldened to attack her and

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therefore it was very clear that they

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got their signals from the White House

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would be my guess.

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>> I mean, that just goes to what a poor

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manager and what a low character person,

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spoiler alert, the president is, and

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that is when you hire people and you

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expect them to be part of a team. If you

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know you're going to fire them, which it

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sounds like he did because it took about

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3 seconds. The moment they announced she

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was leaving, they announced her

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replacement

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to quite frankly trot her out and use

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her as an anger pillow and humiliate her

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before showing her the door knowing that

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you were going to fire as opposed to

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saying, "Look, we're making a change.

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There's no reason for you to go in front

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of Congress or once you resign, you

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probably will not be called. Maybe maybe

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they still would have called her."

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>> That last two days in Congress was bad.

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>> But that was okay. We have absolutely no

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respect, fidelity, camaraderie for the

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people I hire. And if it serves my

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political purposes, I will throw them

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under the bus and then back up the bus

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and run over them again.

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>> That's the Trump way, right? That's the

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Trump way. And in fact, he doesn't even

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give her the I don't think she deserves

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any dignity. The dignity of just firing

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her like you're fired. I mean, the guy

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who's so famous for doing you're fired

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cannot say you're fired. you have to

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give him this symmetrical envoy to the

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shield of the Americas which and of

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course she's bragging as if she won

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right as if it was a good thing because

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like even as she's humiliated and by the

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next humiliation by the way is going to

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be Pam Bondi right that's obvious he's

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going to go all the ladies as you know

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of the Trump administration are in big

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trouble um and they will be the first to

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go they'll get to Cash Patel at some

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point or maybe not but like another

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incompetent another you know same thing

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with Pam Bondi menacious and incompetent

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Um, and so he he doesn't the fact that

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he hasn't let go so many of these people

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already who are just not up to the task

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is really says a ton about his

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management style.

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>> I think they're more strategic than

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people want to give me a credit for. And

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when I was a consultant, I always used I

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would review DAXs and associates going

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in to present to a management team. I

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would say I would ask a series of

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questions. And one of the questions I

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would ask what I would say I would ask

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who's in the room that's not in the room

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and that is what is the context what is

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the influences what is the overarching

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theme of the vibe in this room or their

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objectives before you even show up and

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the two people that are always in the

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room around any Trump official and any

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public activity are one Roy Conn. If you

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look at the way these people have put

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themselves in front of the Senate and

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the Congress, one of the greatest

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erosions in the grand equity of the

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United States is there has always been a

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level of civility and decorum. They

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aren't that South Korean Senate where

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they break into fisticuffs or they start

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yelling at each other. There was always

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a certain amount of respect. But this

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Roy Con deny, deflect,

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uh, obuscate, attack, you're you're a

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you're you're ashamed of yourself.

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You're a failed lawyer. Go on. Don't

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answer the question. That has in and

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among itself eroded the value and the

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prestige of the Senate. Roy Con is

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always in the room when these guys

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testify. The person that's always in the

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room is Epstein. And I believe there are

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three people armed with LLM saying

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monitoring the temperature of Epstein in

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the news. And when it gets above a

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certain temperature, they think of

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distractions. And nothing is better than

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one of these hearings or declaring war

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or saying you're going to raise tariffs

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of 50%. But I literally think they have

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they are monitoring the the number of

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times Epstein and Trump are linked

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together when it gets above a certain

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temperature in the press. they they they

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throw someone under the bus, announce a

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tariff, start start firing missiles,

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whatever it might be, you know,

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capturing or uh absconding with with um

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leaders of Central American countries,

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but Roy Conn and Jeffrey Epstein are

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>> very smart. That's a And the Epstein

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stuff is not going away. Let me just say

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it is not. It is, as I said a half a

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year ago, it is it is here to stay. like

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it's the thing. To to Christy Gnome's

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credit, she did not go to the island on

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her [ __ ] plane. Um, so that's a good

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that's a good part of her. But we wish

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you well, Christy. You're completely

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incompetent and deserve to be fired. Um,

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but the fact that he kept you there that

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long says more about Donald Trump than

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it does about Christine Gnome. She she's

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is what she is, I guess.

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>> I heard she's going to be volunteering

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to get an all kill dog shelter.

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>> Oh, very funny. I mean, that's going to

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that's going to go to the end of her

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days and deservedly so. Anyway, uh now

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back to the rest of the show. Guess

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where I went last night?

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>> Where'd you go?

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>> Party for uh Andrew Ross Sorcin at the

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French Embassy, our favorite Canadian.

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>> I was not invited.

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>> I know. It was by Puck and he got the

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First Amendment award. He gave a He gave

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such a good speech. He's like,

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>> he's a very talented guy.

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>> He's such a nice boy. I don't know what

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else to say. He's a nice boy. He gave an

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excellent speech about the First

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Amendment. And he he said everyone

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thinks he's Canadian because we say

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that's the case. He now is asked about

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Canadian his wife too. His wife they're

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very

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>> but let's just say he's Canadian even

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though he's not.

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>> Can I tell you the first time I heard

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his name?

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>> What? Yeah.

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>> My first board meeting at the New York

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Times. Uh they were going around and we

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have this su succession strategy and

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that's when I knew the CEO wasn't very

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good was it was clear she was like

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shooting everybody that got near the CEO

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spot. and they went through and we're

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trying to everyone was asking about

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compensation and equity awards and they

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mentioned this one young reporter and

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everyone's like well offer them 8% you

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know and they mentioned they go oh and

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we have this young reporter who's really

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talented Andrew soccer and everyone went

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pay him whatever he wants

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>> oh

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>> everyone literally said you know we're

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trying to manage a company that we need

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fiscal discipline it wasn't doing well

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yeah

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>> and his name comes up and everyone looks

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around pay him whatever he wants we

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can't lose that guy

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>> yeah Well, he looks great. He gave He

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got the First Amendment award. I I And

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he gave a beautiful speech. Anyway,

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congratulations, Andrew.

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>> Was it a fun party?

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>> It was a good party.

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>> Daddy's going to a big party.

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>> What are you doing?

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>> Well, you were invited, but you wouldn't

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be my plus.

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>> Oh, the Vanity Fair. I actually um the

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guy who's the editor's boyfriend, Sean

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McCree, was there and he sat where I was

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going. I said, "Well, Scott Galloway is

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going to be there, so he'll shot the

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place." Buckale.

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>> Um uh you want to see someone at the bar

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having a good time? Yeah. I've been so

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nervous about what to wear. Spent most

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of the weekend trying to style myself.

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>> Don't wear jeans at a tux like Ted

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Sarandos. I didn't think that worked.

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>> I'm rolling up to the bar and I'm

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getting [ __ ] up and I'm just going to

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observe. I don't need to speak to

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anybody.

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>> No, you need to talk to people.

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>> You know what I do? I talk to Ted

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Sarandos about strategy and who he

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should acquire. That's that's the limit

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of my social capabilities.

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>> Do you not do the executives there? Can

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I tell you two quick stories of vanity?

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>> I want to meet the gay hockey guys. Will

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they be there?

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>> Oh, they pro. Oh, I'm sure they'll be

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there. Oh, I bet they are. We are Are

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you allowed to take selfies with that

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thing or do they kick you out?

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>> Well, I don't know. They used to. Yeah.

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I don't No, I don't think so. I think

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you're not allowed to. Let me tell you

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two quick stories. I went to one when it

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was up at this um the sand not it was in

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that hotel Sunset Towers. It used to be

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the sunset

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>> and it was small, much more intimate and

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one year all the tech people got went

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like all they invited all the tech

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people. And so I was like [ __ ] I don't

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want to see these people. I want to see

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celebrities. And they they kept they're

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really shy at the time. And they kept

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bothering me like to talk to me. And I

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was like, I don't want to talk to you,

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Sergey Bren. I don't want to talk to you

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all you people. And Sergey Brand

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wouldn't wasn't able to talk to anybody,

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but except they were wearing Google

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Glass. He was wearing a Google Glass.

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And he goes, "No one's talking to me."

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And I'm like, "Take off your [ __ ]

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Google Glass and like say you're a

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billionaire. That's how it's going to

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work here." The second time uh the

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second time I went there I ran into um I

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was talking as you did to Bob Iger or I

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forget Comcast head may have been Ted

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Sarandos and the guy who plays uh Harry

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Potter came up to me and said excuse me

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you know and he said I've noticed all

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the really important uh studio people

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are sort of

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>> so like you to have a story that makes

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you sound powerful.

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>> No I did. No let me finish the story.

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Shut up. So he said, "I've noticed

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you're talking. They're all talking to

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you and they're very interested in

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talking to you. Who are you?" This guy

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is really smart. I love him. Daniel

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Gradcliffe. And I said, "I'm their drug

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dealer."

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>> That's what I did.

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>> But I'm not.

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>> Anyway, I have a lot of good stories

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from there. You'll have a good time.

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Talk to people. Talk say hello to Robert

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Dairo if he's there cuz he

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>> Yeah, that's not my style. I wasn't

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going to go. I said no. And then someone

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we both know said, "You have to go

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once." So I'm going go on. But I'm

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literally It's been very stressful

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picking out my outfit.

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>> It's early. Remember, it's early. You go

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like like 10.

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>> I'm literally leaving you at South by

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Southwest. I'm changing on the plane and

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I'm going straight to the event.

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>> Yeah. Yeah. It goes on forever though.

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Stay till late. Stay till late.

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>> I only think I was invited cuz they

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thought I was going to be your plus one.

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And then you said no when I said yes.

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>> No, I don't think so. Anyway, have a

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great time. You'll have a great time.

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We've got a lot to get to today because

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we also this weekend will be in

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Minneapolis. We'll talk about that in a

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second. on Sunday. We're very excited to

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do resist and unsubscribe there. Um, but

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let's get to the news first. Let's dig

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in. First, uh, Defense Secretary Pete

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Hegsth says the war in Iran is far from

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over, warning that we've only just

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begun. It was such a ridiculous press

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conference. As a record, the House is

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set to vote on a measure to block

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President Trump from taking further

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action in Iran without congressional

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support. And the Senate already failed

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to do that. By the way, European leaders

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are pushing back on Trump, notably

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Spain's prime minister, who said, "We

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can't play Russian roulette with the

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destiny of millions of people." He's

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absolutely correct. The White House said

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they were cooperating and then they said

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they weren't. Um Trump is also facing

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push back from parts of his MAGA base

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over the war. Even as he insists MAGA

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loves what I'm doing, they do not love

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what he's doing. And looking at the

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economic impact, US gas prices saw their

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biggest single day spike in three years

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this week, and oil prices continue to

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rise. Um, this drag on the in the US

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economy is going to be very tough for

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Trump and and the Republicans as we

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approach the midterms. I've been uh I've

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been talking to a lot of Republicans. In

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fact, had a meeting with a very

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prominent one yesterday. Um, and they

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are they I can tell you they do not like

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this or they they think Pete Hath is is

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an imbecile. That's for sure. And they

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don't think this was well thought out at

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all. I think and that's that's the

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Republicans and these are people who

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maybe publicly are being supportive by

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at least voting against his the

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restrictions on Trump. What what are

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your thoughts about the economy? What's

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happening here?

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>> It really hasn't taken much of a hit

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yet. It's the existential threat that it

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could digress into something much bigger

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and more dangerous. The oil is up about

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11 11 bucks a barrel or 10% uh or 12%

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which translates to about 25 cents a

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gallon typically. Typically wars the

00:15:28

markets go down and then they check back

00:15:30

and actually the year after a war ends

00:15:32

markets typically outperform. So I don't

00:15:34

think you can say that the markets have

00:15:37

responded or that we know this is going

00:15:39

to be inflationary.

00:15:40

>> Yeah.

00:15:41

>> What what I think you can say is that I

00:15:44

believe if he had gone to Congress and

00:15:46

made an argument for why we're doing

00:15:48

this, why now, and what are our

00:15:50

objectives, he might have gotten the

00:15:52

authorization for the use of military

00:15:54

force. They they never get declarations

00:15:57

of war any longer. They get AUMFs.

00:16:00

But unfortunately, what they've done is

00:16:02

because they had to position this as a

00:16:04

defensive action, they said, "Oh, one of

00:16:07

our allies was about to be imminently

00:16:08

attacked. We were going to have to

00:16:10

respond." So, it's like, "Okay, you just

00:16:11

gave into this very dangerous trope

00:16:15

>> that Israel is controlling the US."

00:16:17

>> Yes.

00:16:17

>> That was just And you have had such

00:16:20

inconsistent messaging.

00:16:22

>> Absolutely.

00:16:22

>> This is regime change. No, we don't want

00:16:24

regime change. This is going to be 5

00:16:26

days. We'll be there as long as it

00:16:27

takes. Yeah. This is a

00:16:29

>> Now the Kurds. We're bringing the Kurds

00:16:30

in.

00:16:31

>> Yeah. Now we're going to operate the

00:16:32

Kurds. Well, okay. What does that mean

00:16:34

when the Kurds get fired up in other

00:16:35

regions? This is a special combat

00:16:38

operation. No, it's a war. They have so

00:16:41

much inconsistent messaging. And the

00:16:43

fact that they didn't reflect the

00:16:44

confidence to at a minimum think about

00:16:46

the American citizens in the Gulf and a

00:16:48

plan for getting them out of there.

00:16:50

>> That seems like makes Biden's

00:16:52

Afghanistan withdrawal seem like

00:16:55

>> in addition just just tactically

00:16:57

>> Mhm.

00:16:59

>> tactically

00:17:01

bombing Thran the the majority the real

00:17:04

danger here is that the Iranian people

00:17:07

are not on our side turn against us. Uh

00:17:11

because what the Iranian biggest

00:17:13

miscalculation was firing they basically

00:17:16

John Stewart summarized it as two guys

00:17:18

start beating up on you. So what do you

00:17:20

do? You try and start a fight with

00:17:21

everyone in the bar. That was a real

00:17:24

strategic mistake on the part of Iran.

00:17:27

But our potentially biggest mistake is

00:17:29

when we're bombing Thran, you're

00:17:31

essentially flattening neighborhoods of

00:17:34

people who are probably more pro- West

00:17:36

>> and empathetic. It's the the kind of

00:17:39

religious the theocracies in the rural

00:17:42

area. So,

00:17:43

>> no one really trusts. I think the why

00:17:45

why now and objectives had legitimacy

00:17:48

here and he potentially could have got

00:17:51

77% of Republicans are or 72% of

00:17:54

Republicans are in favor of this. Only

00:17:55

17% of progressives.

00:17:57

>> It's low. 72% of Republicans is low.

00:18:00

It's usually 95%.

00:18:01

>> The the broader number is 4159. So,

00:18:04

let's be clear. The majority of

00:18:05

Americans do not support this. I still

00:18:07

think had he had a well thoughtout plan,

00:18:09

he could have gotten potentially

00:18:11

>> I don't agree with you. I think uh this

00:18:12

was interesting listening to this

00:18:14

Republican very high-profile politician,

00:18:16

he was like they have 15 days to resolve

00:18:20

this like because if it drags on more

00:18:22

and they don't seem to have a point, uh

00:18:25

it's a problem. And one of the things he

00:18:26

was pointing to was unaffiliated um

00:18:30

voters. He's like the yeah the

00:18:33

independence he says across there there

00:18:35

are red lights everywhere for

00:18:37

Republicans around independence and

00:18:38

independents hate this and he said if he

00:18:41

doesn't have a very tight sharp plan in

00:18:44

place I mean he was blumx that they

00:18:46

didn't have one Mike that they didn't

00:18:48

and they they weren't communicating them

00:18:49

and I'll tell you one when he had gone

00:18:51

to that briefing about whether there

00:18:53

really was an imminent threat and one of

00:18:55

the reporters asked him is was there an

00:18:57

im imminent threat and he said well

00:18:59

there's been one for 47 years. That's

00:19:01

what it sounded like. Like he was like

00:19:03

didn't even buy their nonsensical

00:19:05

reasons.

00:19:06

>> But you asked you asked about the

00:19:09

economy.

00:19:10

So the the decision to to go to war in

00:19:13

my opinion is not what is going to be

00:19:15

quote unquote the downfall or really

00:19:17

hurt the Trump administration. It's the

00:19:18

following. It appears that these types

00:19:21

of actions, unilateral actions, where

00:19:23

you don't make any attempt to get

00:19:25

European or Gulf nations involved to

00:19:27

increase legitimacy, much less the

00:19:29

resources, right? These nations could

00:19:31

have helped shoot down these nations

00:19:33

have their own military, their own

00:19:34

intelligence. They could have served a

00:19:35

real valuable role in help protecting

00:19:37

those Gulf States, achieving the

00:19:39

objectives. The fact that we now have a

00:19:42

$ 1.1 trillion military that appears to

00:19:44

be run by incompetence. In addition,

00:19:47

America was the operating system. We

00:19:50

everyone settles their trades and

00:19:51

dollars. They operate on the IP

00:19:53

agreements of America. We largely

00:19:55

enforce the flows of energy with our

00:19:57

navy, our military bases, make sure that

00:20:00

rogue nations don't go too rogue. We're

00:20:03

sort of been the operating system. Now,

00:20:05

this decision amongst others,

00:20:06

specifically going about it unilaterally

00:20:08

with no attempt to even consult Congress

00:20:11

or our allies, all of a sudden shows the

00:20:14

nation that used to enforce that no

00:20:16

nation go too rogue, they're now that

00:20:18

rogue nation.

00:20:19

>> Yeah.

00:20:19

>> But I think the real existential threat

00:20:21

to the economy and to American

00:20:23

prosperity is the following. It's yet

00:20:25

another data point that shows we used to

00:20:28

be the cop or the protection when we

00:20:31

hear a knock at the door. Now we are the

00:20:33

knock at the door.

00:20:34

>> Yeah, I get it. It's really What's

00:20:36

interesting is that um how many people

00:20:39

are are secretly not for it, right? It's

00:20:41

it's a really you do see the strength of

00:20:45

of people pushing back now on Trump,

00:20:47

which is really interesting. Much more

00:20:49

so all over the place, not listening to

00:20:50

him, not going along with him. Now,

00:20:53

typically politicians go along with uh

00:20:56

anybody when there's a war happening.

00:20:57

They try not to be too difficult. But

00:21:00

one of the things is this further

00:21:01

abrogation of power by the Congress, you

00:21:03

know, in terms of where they where they

00:21:05

and they're sitting around act talking

00:21:07

and debating about whether they have

00:21:09

power or not. If I don't know if you've

00:21:10

followed any of that, it's kind of

00:21:11

ridiculous. And they do. And one of the

00:21:14

it just I think it just creates more cha

00:21:16

chaos around Trump. Like he's chaotic

00:21:19

>> at the same time as all his his his work

00:21:22

the people that work for him are

00:21:23

incompetent that seem more and more and

00:21:25

especially Pete Seth. He seemed

00:21:27

completely out of sorts for this. And

00:21:29

one of the the of course there's

00:21:31

conspiracy theories everywhere, but one

00:21:33

of them is that if Iran hits the United

00:21:36

States in some way, a city of a United

00:21:38

States city, which is entirely possible,

00:21:40

that's what he'll use as the excuse to

00:21:42

call martial law. Just just so you know,

00:21:44

there's a lot of things happening all

00:21:47

all at the same time. And I don't I just

00:21:49

don't it's not good because it's chaos

00:21:50

and Trump. Chaos and Trump. And so I

00:21:53

think Trump is the same thing as our

00:21:54

domestic problems here with him. It's

00:21:56

chaos. It's chaos and it's not thought

00:21:59

out and it's incompetence. Um, and you

00:22:01

know, there obviously the Republicans

00:22:03

are worried about the midterms and they

00:22:04

should. Um, the first primaries of the

00:22:07

2026 midterms. Here are some of the

00:22:09

highlights from Tuesday's elections. In

00:22:11

Texas, incumbent Senator John Cornin and

00:22:14

Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton are

00:22:16

headed to a late May GOP Senate runoff.

00:22:19

The GOP clash is already the most

00:22:21

expensive Senate primary in history with

00:22:23

Republicans alone racking up nearly

00:22:24

hund00 million in ad buys. Um Trump is

00:22:28

supposedly going to pick one and tell

00:22:29

the other to get out, but Ken Pax has

00:22:31

already said he's not getting out even

00:22:32

if he doesn't get picked. Um and state

00:22:35

representative James Terico beat

00:22:37

Representative Jasmine Crockett in

00:22:38

Texas's Democratic Senate primary. Let's

00:22:41

listen to a clip from Telerico's victory

00:22:43

speech. To the billionaires who have

00:22:46

taken over our state and taken over our

00:22:49

country, your unchecked power is coming

00:22:52

to an end.

00:22:56

>> Your days dividing working people are

00:22:59

numbered.

00:23:00

>> Oh, he sounds like a guy we should hang

00:23:01

out with. Um, good, good, good. It was a

00:23:04

good speech. And actually, I have to say

00:23:05

Crockett handled the the defeat well.

00:23:08

They seemed to come together. Everyone's

00:23:10

like, "We're all going to come

00:23:10

together." Um and uh they both ran

00:23:13

really tough campaigns and and then they

00:23:15

they I have to say everybody acted the

00:23:18

Democrats look like they're not uh in

00:23:21

disarray as they say. Uh Texas Supreme

00:23:23

Court stepped in to block a lastminute

00:23:24

voting extension in two counties after

00:23:26

GOP primary polling mixups backing an

00:23:29

appeal from Ken Paxton. It seemed like

00:23:31

he was just trying to create chaos. In

00:23:33

North Carolina, former Governor Roy

00:23:35

Cooper won the Democratic Senate primary

00:23:37

quite easily and will face Republican

00:23:39

Michael Wattley uh for uh Senator Tom

00:23:42

Tillis' seat in the race that could help

00:23:44

decide Senate control. Um so interesting

00:23:48

stuff going on there. A lot of people

00:23:49

lost their jobs. Um Dan Krenshaw lost

00:23:51

his job. Uh he was targeted by a

00:23:53

billionaire, speaking of billionaires,

00:23:55

who spent enormous amounts of money to

00:23:57

get rid of him. in North Carolina, the

00:23:58

head of the state senate who'd been in

00:24:00

power for a long long time uh is in a

00:24:03

very tight race. A lot of people losing

00:24:05

losing their jobs like all over the

00:24:07

place. So, uh what do you think uh this

00:24:10

means for Democrats this year and for

00:24:11

Republicans?

00:24:12

>> It's very exciting for Democrats. the I

00:24:15

mean the Torico race. First off, if

00:24:18

Terico wins the seat against the

00:24:20

Republican nominee, I think he's likely

00:24:23

or very likely to be the vice

00:24:25

presidential pick in 2028 because if he

00:24:27

wins this and shows an ability to win in

00:24:30

Texas, if as VP they think he could

00:24:33

deliver Texas, it's game over for

00:24:35

whoever's for the Democrats win. If you

00:24:38

could flip Texas in a presidential race,

00:24:39

do

00:24:40

>> you think he should stay there for a

00:24:41

little bit? get amass power.

00:24:44

>> Well, how long did how long was Obama

00:24:46

senator?

00:24:46

>> Yeah, that's right.

00:24:47

>> I mean, they do. The VP is supposed to

00:24:50

be the person who could take over. It's

00:24:51

not. The VP is brought on to hopefully

00:24:53

win a state

00:24:54

>> that is a swing state for the most part.

00:24:56

Anyways, so it's exciting moment for

00:24:59

Terico, but what's really exciting for

00:25:01

Democrats is that through the odds, the

00:25:04

majority or the number of Democrats

00:25:07

turning out in a primary was in the high

00:25:10

hundreds of thousands, 7 or 800,000.

00:25:13

>> 2.1 million Democrats turned out. And

00:25:16

the very this the other very exciting

00:25:18

thing is that

00:25:19

>> I think it was 1.8 million Republicans

00:25:21

turned out. So whoever whoever whatever

00:25:24

party is able to turn out more people

00:25:26

for the primary gives you real insight

00:25:29

into what's going to happen in the

00:25:30

general

00:25:30

>> especially among Hispanics he really

00:25:32

pulled in that he shifted them

00:25:35

>> and if we have the first Texas statewide

00:25:37

Democrat elected in 20 or 30 years

00:25:40

>> yes was the last one.

00:25:42

>> What's that?

00:25:43

>> Lloyd Benson was the last one I think.

00:25:45

>> I thought it was an Richards.

00:25:47

>> No she was governor.

00:25:48

>> She was governor. There you go. So, this

00:25:50

is an exciting this is just a super

00:25:53

exciting moment uh for Democrats. So, I

00:25:56

I don't you know I don't I don't think

00:25:58

you can overstate it. All the races look

00:26:00

to be have been closer. The surprising

00:26:04

stuff was some of the more some of the

00:26:06

Republicans who lost their lost their

00:26:08

seats. That was very interesting.

00:26:10

>> Um I was thinking of sending some money

00:26:12

to Paxton because I'd love to see him

00:26:13

against Terara because I think that

00:26:15

means Terica wins.

00:26:16

>> Yeah. Yeah. Um, anyways,

00:26:18

>> he's refusing to get out. I mean, who

00:26:20

knows if he I mean, Trump's going to try

00:26:22

to get him out. Um, supposedly they

00:26:24

think Cornin's the better person to run

00:26:25

against.

00:26:26

>> Well, he's more electable. He's

00:26:27

absolutely

00:26:28

>> within the MAG. It doesn't excite the

00:26:30

MAGA groups, right? They like Paxton.

00:26:32

He's backed by all the MAGA groups. All

00:26:35

of them.

00:26:36

>> Yeah. It's This is Look, I I looked at

00:26:39

the results and all I thought was and I

00:26:42

tried to screen out my biases. I thought

00:26:43

there's just no getting around this.

00:26:45

Mhm.

00:26:45

>> This feels really good.

00:26:47

>> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. We'll see. It was

00:26:48

really interesting. Um and I thought

00:26:50

that uh Telerico's continued focus on

00:26:53

the rich was really interesting. It's

00:26:55

really it's it's got a similar vibe of

00:26:57

obviously you would point to AOC and

00:27:00

>> Bernie. Yeah.

00:27:01

>> Bernie and uh of course Mandani. Like

00:27:04

he's like the Texas Mandani kind of

00:27:06

thing. Um and so you know I kept saying

00:27:08

you know if he wins and of course Trump

00:27:11

attacked him quite a bit he'll be at the

00:27:13

White House hanging out with Trump like

00:27:14

Trump will be hugging him like and stuff

00:27:16

like that because he loves a winner that

00:27:18

kind of thing. He's just the kind of

00:27:19

person that will do pull a similar thing

00:27:21

that Montani did.

00:27:23

>> Well Mandami was to his credit Mandami

00:27:25

was smart. He showed that he was a

00:27:26

pragmatist and he was willing to

00:27:28

>> um he he wanted to be effective versus

00:27:30

right and not politically grandstand and

00:27:33

he got that woman released. He's he's

00:27:35

proven to be quite pragmatic.

00:27:37

>> He's kept Jessica Tish as police

00:27:38

commissioner who is very effective. I

00:27:41

just have a feeling Telerico is going to

00:27:42

have the same experience with Trump that

00:27:44

Trump will will bear hug him.

00:27:46

>> The class warfare if you will around the

00:27:48

billionaire class. So the genie

00:27:50

coefficient which is a measure of

00:27:52

inequality

00:27:53

>> if it's zero to one. If you're at zero

00:27:56

it means everyone has exactly the same

00:27:57

amount. If you're at one it means one

00:27:59

person has everything.

00:28:01

>> Mhm.

00:28:01

>> I think but revolution always takes on a

00:28:03

different complexion. I think what we

00:28:04

have now is a series of smaller

00:28:06

revolutions. But when you start

00:28:08

identifying a class of people based on

00:28:10

their wealth, I mean that that kind of

00:28:12

means that the revolution is coming and

00:28:15

Trump and Epstein and the people Epsteed

00:28:18

himself with it has created I I mean we

00:28:22

are I mean the revolution here might be

00:28:25

a series of of tax increase. I I don't

00:28:27

know how it's going to

00:28:28

>> let me let me just read something. This

00:28:30

was in a story I read. The richest

00:28:32

Americans have amassed enormous wealth

00:28:33

in recent years, while most Americans

00:28:35

have seen theirs stagnate. The net worth

00:28:37

of the top 0.1% doubled from 2020 to a

00:28:42

collective sum of 24.9 trillion in the

00:28:45

third quarter of 2025 and now accounts

00:28:48

for 14.4% of the total household wealth

00:28:52

according to the Federal Reserve. That's

00:28:54

an astonishing figure. That's just

00:28:56

astonishing.

00:28:57

>> Well, yeah. The what William Gibson said

00:29:00

about technology is true about

00:29:02

prosperity in that it's prosperity is

00:29:04

here in America. It's just not evenly

00:29:05

distributed.

00:29:06

>> Yeah. But it's

00:29:06

>> and now and it's made us more fragile as

00:29:08

an economy to think of the morality of

00:29:10

it. 10% the top 10% of US households are

00:29:13

now responsible for 50% of the spend.

00:29:15

>> Right. I think tech billionaires have

00:29:17

done so much damage to themselves in

00:29:19

this the way they behaved and they do

00:29:20

act like they have unch and I think Elon

00:29:22

Musk will go down in history as someone

00:29:24

who really began the push back against

00:29:26

this because the way the imperious and

00:29:28

ridiculous way he conducted himself and

00:29:30

all of them all of them do all of them

00:29:31

do

00:29:32

>> well becoming the wealthiest man in the

00:29:33

world such that you can cut off aid to

00:29:34

HIV positive mothers that's not a good

00:29:36

luck

00:29:36

>> yeah it's not a good look any

00:29:38

congratulations to uh Telerico and

00:29:40

others who won yesterday

00:29:42

>> and to Jasmine Crockett by the way I

00:29:43

thought she ran a great campaign She

00:29:45

went right up and then attacked Christy

00:29:47

Gnome beautifully. Like did a beautiful

00:29:49

take down of Christy Gnome which is

00:29:51

she's very good at her job. Um I we

00:29:53

haven't seen the last of her.

00:29:55

>> Hope not. She really is. Okay, Scott,

00:29:58

let's go on a quick break. When we come

00:30:00

back, what Sam Alman is saying about

00:30:02

OpenAI's deal with the Pentagon and what

00:30:04

Daario Amodi is saying about Sam Alman.

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It's pretty eviscerating.

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00:31:08

Scott, we're back. Open A has updated

00:31:10

its deal with the Pentagon, adding

00:31:12

language that says uh its AI system

00:31:14

quote shall shall not be intentionally

00:31:17

used for domestic surveillance. CEO Sam

00:31:20

Alman wrote it's critical to protect the

00:31:22

civil liberties of Americans. But at an

00:31:24

all hands meeting this week, Sam told

00:31:26

staff that open had no control over how

00:31:28

the defense department uses its

00:31:29

software. And while uh defending the

00:31:31

deal in the Pentagon, he acknowledged

00:31:33

that rolling it out so quickly made the

00:31:35

company look quote opportunistic and

00:31:37

sloppy. That's the the app producing

00:31:39

sloppy is the poor name of of open AI.

00:31:43

Sam said it's been painful to try to do

00:31:45

the quote right thing and then get quote

00:31:48

personally crushed for it. Oh my god,

00:31:50

Sam, this is so he needs to stop

00:31:52

talking. I've got to say um it's a

00:31:54

question of whether he's actually

00:31:56

tarnished the brand too much in his

00:31:57

actions. Um Chachi PT uninstalls surged

00:32:00

295% the day after the Pentagon deal was

00:32:03

announced. Claw downloads continue to

00:32:05

spike. Meanwhile, um, uh, Anthropic CEO

00:32:08

Dario Modi told his staff that the Trump

00:32:10

administration didn't like Anthropic

00:32:12

because it didn't, uh, it it hadn't

00:32:14

given, um, dictator style praise to

00:32:17

Trump, while Sam has. He really laid

00:32:20

into they they there's, if you think

00:32:22

Elon Musk and Sam Alman have a problem,

00:32:24

Dario Modi and Sam Alman have a problem.

00:32:27

So, what do you think about this? This

00:32:28

is like a a real od

00:32:32

something's going on over there at

00:32:34

OpenAI that they really need to fix.

00:32:36

>> I think of it on the other side and you

00:32:38

know as as people know we're going to be

00:32:40

resist and unsubscribe in Minneapolis on

00:32:42

Sunday. And the way we're evolving it is

00:32:45

we're now going to um try and encourage

00:32:48

people to sign up for who we think are

00:32:50

good actors. And the most obvious

00:32:52

contrast here is the contrast between

00:32:53

open AI and anthropic. And I've been

00:32:56

saying for six months that I thought one

00:32:58

of the biggest commercial opportunities

00:32:59

was for a CEO basically to say no and

00:33:02

say these are we're we're done enabling

00:33:04

these type of this type of depraved

00:33:06

behavior. We're not going to engage in

00:33:08

the violation of Americans Americans

00:33:10

rights. And the hero we didn't think we

00:33:12

needed is Dario Amod. He's basically

00:33:15

stepped up and he said no. And just to

00:33:18

the point of it being a huge commercial

00:33:20

opportunity,

00:33:21

uh he uh Anthropic immediately surged

00:33:24

number one in the app store and its

00:33:26

annual recurring revenue has gone from

00:33:28

14 billion to 19 billion in just one

00:33:31

week. So this is going to be this is a

00:33:35

big moment because what Daario and

00:33:36

Anthropic have done even if they don't

00:33:39

realize it is they're all of a sudden

00:33:41

gonna give a bunch of CEOs across

00:33:43

America

00:33:44

>> the confidence to start saying no. Yeah,

00:33:47

>> because I thought it was going to be

00:33:48

Nike, but we said this six months ago.

00:33:51

It's a huge commercial opportunity.

00:33:52

>> Got to be a tech person.

00:33:55

>> Tech has been so in bed with Trump. It's

00:33:57

got to be a tech person doing it. That's

00:33:59

>> fair point. But the the point is the

00:34:01

opportunity here

00:34:02

>> was for someone to just stand up and say

00:34:04

enough already. I'm I'm not going to I'm

00:34:06

done. And

00:34:07

>> I'll tell you, a lot of Republican

00:34:09

senators really have not liked the way

00:34:11

Hegath has handled. I've been talking to

00:34:13

a lot of them quietly. They have been

00:34:15

saying this

00:34:16

>> it's anti- capitalist.

00:34:17

>> Yes. It's very they're very not

00:34:20

disposed. They're like when did we

00:34:21

become communists essentially and and

00:34:24

one of the things that'll be

00:34:25

interesting. I mean sort of anthropic is

00:34:27

a little like um what Tom Tillis has

00:34:29

been doing. He's left but he has

00:34:31

enormous leverage over the Trump

00:34:33

administration now because he can say

00:34:35

things and so in he says this sucks.

00:34:37

Pete he or Steven Miller sucks, right?

00:34:40

he does say it outright and then others

00:34:43

say well I'm not really liking some of

00:34:45

the things Zen Miller it gives them the

00:34:46

courage to say slightly less critical

00:34:49

things and I think that's a great way to

00:34:51

be and Dario is playing that role I get

00:34:54

it but he's playing the role of a heat

00:34:56

shield in a lot of ways

00:34:57

>> if you're under you get to make weapons

00:34:59

for the government it's legal if you're

00:35:02

>> if you're um

00:35:04

palunteer you get to sell data to the

00:35:06

government as long as it's legal and for

00:35:08

whatever purposes they might use it for.

00:35:10

And if you're anthropic, you get to work

00:35:13

with who you want. You can't do it based

00:35:15

on you can't discriminate or not work

00:35:16

with people based on their sexual

00:35:18

orientation or their ethnicity, but they

00:35:20

can absolutely. We get to decide who we

00:35:22

take ads from.

00:35:23

>> We we we say no all the time to

00:35:25

advertisers and say no, we're not

00:35:27

comfortable with it. Uh the what the the

00:35:30

big thing here is that in one week,

00:35:35

Claude went from number 42 to number one

00:35:37

in the free app store.

00:35:40

So, this is I mean this is a big moment.

00:35:44

This is a turning point because I just

00:35:46

trust me on this. In the next 30 days,

00:35:49

all of a sudden, we're going to see

00:35:50

these these CEOs cosplaying Nelson

00:35:54

Mandela and acting all righteous.

00:35:56

>> I don't know. I don't know about that.

00:35:57

One of the things that was interesting,

00:35:58

there was a poll out in Emerson poll. I

00:36:00

can't remember. No, that wasn't Emerson.

00:36:01

It was a it was a more normal poll um

00:36:04

that said that people want CEOs to

00:36:07

remain neutral but they also want them

00:36:08

to be genuine. So they kind of like this

00:36:11

you know even though they say they don't

00:36:13

want companies to weigh in they kind of

00:36:15

do which is interesting that people

00:36:17

answer differently. I do think people do

00:36:21

vote like with resistance unsubscribe if

00:36:23

you don't like how chat g I so many

00:36:25

people have told me they have dumped

00:36:27

chat GPT more than any of the other ones

00:36:30

and Amazon would be the second one when

00:36:31

they come up to me to ask me about your

00:36:33

efforts with resistant unsubscribe. It's

00:36:36

always Amazon and and Open AI that they

00:36:38

focus in on. That's what I've noticed.

00:36:41

>> But we haven't had an option to the

00:36:42

upside. We haven't had a carrot just to

00:36:44

stick.

00:36:45

>> Great idea. And this has given everyone

00:36:46

the ability to say all right my lack of

00:36:49

spending is a signal but my spending can

00:36:51

also be a signal

00:36:52

>> right

00:36:53

>> and I think there's a big opportunity

00:36:55

here and I'm personally going to urge

00:36:58

people to sign up for and patronize

00:37:01

anthropic

00:37:03

>> and to unsubscribe and not use open AI

00:37:05

and send a very strong signal that

00:37:08

people notice and when certain companies

00:37:11

stand up at potentially you know

00:37:13

potentially pretty severe risk of

00:37:14

retribution

00:37:16

There's all kinds of second order

00:37:17

effects of Palanteer uses Claude. A lot

00:37:20

of people use Claude%. It's a real risk.

00:37:22

It might cost them in the short run.

00:37:23

>> Well, there's a there's a lot over the

00:37:25

medium and the long term. I believe this

00:37:27

is one of the biggest commercial

00:37:28

opportunities presented to companies

00:37:30

right now.

00:37:30

>> Yeah, we'll see where it goes. Um the

00:37:33

issue, let me just make a warning for

00:37:35

anthropic Dario who is typical te tech

00:37:39

person, arrogant. It can be arrogant and

00:37:42

um imperious kind of thing. He loves to

00:37:44

write, which I I appreciate. I like a I

00:37:46

like a CEO that does really is a good

00:37:48

writer actually. Um he he's got to be

00:37:51

careful not to appear too righteous,

00:37:54

right? Too self-righteous. I think

00:37:55

that's where

00:37:56

>> I think he should go dark and just let

00:37:57

his action speak for his words.

00:37:59

>> Yeah, exactly. I think there is that,

00:38:00

you know, he's definitely getting

00:38:01

attacked by the idiot Emil Michael and

00:38:05

David Saxs, the other [ __ ] Um

00:38:07

>> well, again, government government

00:38:08

officials deciding that

00:38:11

>> we're now, like you said, central

00:38:12

planning. Yeah,

00:38:15

>> it's another data point you asked about

00:38:17

the economy. Every time we diminish the

00:38:19

rule of law and that everyone gets to is

00:38:22

is is enable everyone is entitled to and

00:38:25

subject to the same laws. Every time we

00:38:27

say okay the the law is now a tool for

00:38:30

political retribution based on who's in

00:38:32

who's in power. We lose we our price

00:38:36

earnings multiple on the S&P goes down.

00:38:38

>> Right. He's more powerful. Dary Mod is

00:38:40

more powerful now than he was because

00:38:42

he's the only one. Right. And the same

00:38:44

thing with the Tom Tillis, he has more

00:38:46

leverage now in his 300 days left cuz it

00:38:50

gives the gives people permission to be

00:38:53

to push back in a maybe not he gets to

00:38:56

be the louder one both of them. And it

00:38:58

it'll be interesting. It'll be all over

00:38:59

the place. Um speaking of not pushing

00:39:02

back, FCC chair Brendan Carr, who I love

00:39:05

to call a [ __ ] because he is, says he

00:39:07

expects the Warner Brothers Paramount

00:39:09

merger deal to get through approval

00:39:11

pretty quickly. Of course, you lap dog.

00:39:14

Let's listen to what he said when asked

00:39:15

about whether he would have concerns

00:39:16

about the Netflix deal.

00:39:18

>> Yeah, there was a lot of concerns in DC

00:39:19

and you can see it already. Just the

00:39:21

scope and scale on the streaming service

00:39:23

in particular, they would had a very

00:39:25

difficult path forward from regulatory

00:39:26

perspective. This deal uh is a lot

00:39:28

cleaner, does not raise at all the same

00:39:30

types of concerns. I think there's some

00:39:31

real consumer benefits that could emerge

00:39:33

from it.

00:39:33

>> He's right about it was obviously

00:39:35

they're smaller. That's that's right,

00:39:36

Brandon. But Brandon has nothing to do

00:39:38

with this deal and he always mouths off

00:39:40

on everything. Um, meanwhile, Fitch

00:39:42

Ratings, one of the Wall Street's big

00:39:44

credit rating agencies, has cut

00:39:45

Paramount's credit ratings to junk

00:39:47

status. No surprise. Enormous debt, I

00:39:50

think, from 75 to hundred billion

00:39:51

dollars in debt. It's a big It's a big

00:39:53

chunk of money. They say they're going

00:39:55

to delever quickly, but it's always

00:39:56

hard, as Bill Cohen noted. Um, and David

00:39:59

Zazoff, also not looking so good.

00:40:01

President and CEO of Warers. He's

00:40:02

looking good to shareholders. Filed to

00:40:04

sell over $114 million worth of stock in

00:40:06

the company. he's getting pillaried by

00:40:08

because it's very clear that um that uh

00:40:11

Paramount will have to cut. They say six

00:40:13

billion it's much higher. Um you know

00:40:17

CAR does not play a role here just just

00:40:19

for people to understand a real role. Um

00:40:22

but it will get through it probably will

00:40:23

you know they've been working Europe,

00:40:25

they've been working the government. Um

00:40:28

it's just a question of how they get

00:40:29

through and and what damage they have

00:40:32

done by doing this very non-economic

00:40:35

deal. Um, any more thoughts on that?

00:40:37

>> When the book on the worst acquisitions

00:40:39

in history

00:40:41

>> is written, it should just be called

00:40:42

Warner Brothers.

00:40:44

>> It's true.

00:40:45

>> I mean, if you if you r if you ran into

00:40:49

>> time Warner executives in 2005, Steve K

00:40:53

is super smart. He realized that AOL had

00:40:56

nowhere near the value it was trading

00:40:57

at. So he said, "This is a time to trade

00:40:59

it in for boring revenues that come from

00:41:01

records and books and parks and movies."

00:41:05

>> And if you find a Time Warner executive

00:41:07

two or three years later, literally

00:41:09

their retirements were ruined because of

00:41:12

what was the worst acquisition

00:41:14

uh in history. And that's Time Warner's

00:41:16

merger with AOL. And AOL within like 36

00:41:19

months was worth 10% of what Time Warner

00:41:23

had to pay for it and give up. And then

00:41:25

AT&T bought Time Warner and then barely

00:41:27

and then had to take a had to take a

00:41:29

haircut.

00:41:30

>> And then Time Warner merged with

00:41:33

Discovery.

00:41:34

>> Yeah.

00:41:34

>> And basically it turned into just a

00:41:37

giant

00:41:38

>> uh public benefit organization. It's

00:41:40

like basically the merger between

00:41:42

Discovery and Warner Brothers is if

00:41:45

David Zazov had been honest, he would

00:41:47

have stood up and said, "Look, this can

00:41:49

make me almost a billionaire regardless

00:41:52

of whether I destroy or make shareholder

00:41:54

value."

00:41:54

>> He certainly didn't improve it. He

00:41:56

didn't improve it.

00:41:57

>> It did not. It's underperformed the S&P

00:42:00

by any stretch of the imagination. He's

00:42:01

a brilliant investment banker and he's

00:42:04

going to walk away with $700 million,

00:42:05

whatever. It's legal.

00:42:07

>> Good for him shareholders. What I don't

00:42:09

get is if I was Netflix, I would be I'd

00:42:12

be much meaner or more mavelian and I'd

00:42:14

be trying to fire up as many Democratic

00:42:16

lawmakers as possible.

00:42:18

>> I think they are I think probably they

00:42:19

are they're saying a lot of p you know

00:42:21

uh Jerry Cardelli who's one of the

00:42:23

investors tried to clap back at Netflix

00:42:25

all the all the I've talked to some

00:42:27

Paramount executives and they're all

00:42:29

>> the unions I don't get I can't get over

00:42:31

like Netflix has got sour grapes. I'm

00:42:33

like they're accurate sour grapes like

00:42:35

sorry I think it's very effective by

00:42:38

slapping them you know making them a

00:42:40

villain but yeah I agree the union's

00:42:42

>> it's going to be 8x and also uh Edgar

00:42:45

Bronman Sher Redstone and now David

00:42:47

Ellison there's a general trend

00:42:49

>> throughout history where dad makes a

00:42:52

[ __ ] ton of money through grit and

00:42:54

creativity and then dad Jr. loses it.

00:42:57

Yeah,

00:42:59

>> Junior.

00:42:59

>> But basically the only ones who were

00:43:01

>> Murdoch Rupert Murdoch took his dad, but

00:43:03

that was like a small

00:43:04

>> Oh, no. He he I mean he was a rich kid,

00:43:07

but he turned his father's

00:43:08

>> Yeah.

00:43:09

>> into an empire.

00:43:10

>> Empire. Yeah.

00:43:11

>> And and and

00:43:13

anyways, this

00:43:15

>> anyone involved in media now is

00:43:17

basically a billionaire's kid looking to

00:43:19

go to the Oscars and make the family 80%

00:43:22

less wealthy.

00:43:23

>> Yeah, it's true.

00:43:24

>> And that's what Brmpman did. That's what

00:43:26

Sherry Redstone did. She

00:43:27

>> definitely did.

00:43:28

>> And that's that's what David Ellison is

00:43:30

about to do.

00:43:31

>> Well, he has a lot of money, so he has a

00:43:33

lot to lose. He really really really

00:43:34

likes making movies. Scott,

00:43:36

>> this company this company is going to be

00:43:38

they're going to try to go to AI to cut

00:43:40

re to cut I think and I think you're

00:43:42

going to see a lot of AI slop. I think

00:43:44

the creative community is going to turn

00:43:45

on them.

00:43:46

>> Yeah.

00:43:46

>> And I think this is going to be very I

00:43:49

would not want to own those bonds right

00:43:50

now unless they're seniors secured in

00:43:52

the stack.

00:43:52

>> Yeah. Uh, but I think this is going to

00:43:54

be very

00:43:55

>> and and of course they're going to get a

00:43:57

lot of attention with the news thing

00:43:58

even though it's a smaller part of the

00:44:00

empire. Um, you know, they're going to

00:44:02

>> I wouldn't be surprised if they sell it.

00:44:03

I I don't I I don't I've never for sure

00:44:06

they're merging CBS and CNN that they

00:44:08

have to. They It's economically

00:44:10

untenable not to do so. I would hope

00:44:13

they would put Mark Thompson in charge

00:44:14

of the whole thing. Um, I think he's a

00:44:17

really good u person and very wellliked.

00:44:20

I can tell you it's hair on fire over at

00:44:22

CNN in terms of being I get I get like

00:44:25

like covered with CNN. What's happening

00:44:27

Carol? What's happening Karen? I have

00:44:28

some knowledge I will say. Uh but

00:44:30

they're definitely uh merging um merging

00:44:34

the two of them. There's no other choice

00:44:35

for them to do.

00:44:36

>> I think they should have CNN anchors on

00:44:38

Survivor, the CNN show. Dana Bash, oh my

00:44:42

god, she would so I mean

00:44:44

>> win Caitlyn Collins would kill them all.

00:44:46

Don't you think?

00:44:47

>> Oh no. I think Dana B I think Dana Bash

00:44:49

is the kind of person that would smother

00:44:50

you in your sleep if she needed to.

00:44:52

>> Really? I feel like Kayn Collins. Did

00:44:54

you see her like kicking kick in the

00:44:56

>> I think there's a very secretary's ass.

00:44:58

>> I think there's a very dark interesting

00:44:59

side to Dana.

00:45:00

>> Okay. All right. But we know we don't.

00:45:02

>> And I'm here for it. Dana, by the way,

00:45:04

no. Jake probably will get gotten.

00:45:06

Anderson of course is so sweet. Um I'm

00:45:09

trying to think if there's an outside

00:45:11

person. Bruno. I don't know. There's a

00:45:13

lot of people there. There's a lot of

00:45:14

people. I'm I'm going to vote Gayen

00:45:16

Collins. You can invite Dana Bash. But

00:45:18

we definitely think uh Anderson and Jake

00:45:21

will be will be off will be will be

00:45:23

>> I think Far just opens a bar on the

00:45:25

island and says, "I'm done.

00:45:27

>> I'm done.

00:45:28

>> I'm sick of telling people what's going

00:45:30

to happen."

00:45:30

>> Jack rank survivability on an island of

00:45:33

CNN anchors. Oh, that's so funny.

00:45:36

>> Yeah. Who wins in Survivor? CNN

00:45:38

Survivor. They're literally going to

00:45:39

have to do creative.

00:45:41

>> So cool.

00:45:42

>> Survivor. The CNN edition. Uh, Scott,

00:45:45

what do you do with Scott Jennings? What

00:45:47

do you Where do you put him?

00:45:48

>> Oh, he's killed by his own troops.

00:45:51

>> He's like he's they I mean, yeah. No,

00:45:55

he's the guy he's the guy they bury they

00:45:57

bury up to his neck in sand and let's

00:45:59

let the tide come in slowly.

00:46:02

They're like, "Is there a fire ant? Is

00:46:06

there a fire ant hill on the island? We

00:46:08

have an idea for Scott." Yes,

00:46:10

>> we have Michael Smirkcon leading

00:46:12

Campfire songs at the end of night to

00:46:14

make everyone feel good.

00:46:15

>> He won't have a bar.

00:46:16

>> We have AC 360, that guy who who

00:46:19

substitutes for Anderson. He just has to

00:46:20

walk around with his shirt off. He's

00:46:22

hot. Sean,

00:46:23

>> he just has to walk around with his

00:46:24

shirt off. I've got it all planned. If

00:46:27

Ellison's call me, I take back

00:46:29

everything I've said. I have a way to

00:46:31

pay off your debt.

00:46:34

Survivor, the CNN edition.

00:46:36

>> I'm telling you, Kaitlyn Collins will

00:46:38

take them all down. All right, Scott,

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00:47:46

CEO eating the company's Big Arch uh

00:47:48

burger last month. And while he says he

00:47:50

was taking a big bite, the bite was

00:47:52

small, he also called it the product. Uh

00:47:54

the video went viral because of the

00:47:56

discrepancy. And then on the day of the

00:47:58

release of the Big Arch, Burger King

00:48:00

posted a video of its president eating a

00:48:02

Whopper burger in a more enthusiastic

00:48:04

fashion than the rest of them. There's a

00:48:06

Wendy's one. I think there's a Taco

00:48:08

Bell. I don't know. There's so many of

00:48:09

them now. Um and and while it was What

00:48:12

did you think very briefly? What did you

00:48:14

think of this? It's kind of fascinating.

00:48:16

It really took off the burger eating

00:48:18

situation. Funny, stupid.

00:48:21

>> Well, what no one wanted to talk about

00:48:23

was

00:48:23

>> Mhm.

00:48:24

>> There was a CO McDonald's who I think

00:48:25

died of colorctal cancer in his late

00:48:27

40s. Um

00:48:29

>> Oh, well,

00:48:29

>> like I don't Yeah, that that's a real

00:48:32

pickme up story.

00:48:33

>> Thanks, Scott.

00:48:35

Um, I don't know why I brought that up.

00:48:37

I don't I What do you I could not be

00:48:39

less interested in the story other than

00:48:41

to say that

00:48:42

>> other than to say that I want

00:48:46

I want to buy

00:48:48

>> I I've been as as I'm sure you are. I've

00:48:51

been talking to all these presidents,

00:48:52

presidential candidates who call me for

00:48:54

ideas, which is their way of saying,

00:48:55

"Send me money."

00:48:57

>> I'm like, "Not buy a billion doses of of

00:49:00

GOP one uh drug."

00:49:01

>> Yeah. Actually, these businesses are

00:49:03

under siege. You're absolutely right.

00:49:05

>> Distributed to rural communities. Uh if

00:49:08

you want to if you want to solve the

00:49:09

deficit, all roads lead to health care.

00:49:11

If we want to reduce health care costs,

00:49:12

all roads, in my opinion,

00:49:14

>> lead to GLP1. And that the best

00:49:16

investment we could make. I I think I

00:49:18

think fast food, by the way, I I got to

00:49:20

be honest. I look forward The only thing

00:49:22

I'm the only thing I like about travel

00:49:24

is if I'm at an airport, I grant myself

00:49:26

the luxury of eating McDonald's. I have

00:49:28

a general rule. I don't eat fast food or

00:49:30

go to strip bars in cities I live in

00:49:31

because that could just go bad places.

00:49:34

>> So, but when I'm at the airport, the

00:49:36

McDonald's at Newark is the best

00:49:38

McDonald's in the world.

00:49:39

>> You like In-N-Out, too. And Shake Shack.

00:49:41

>> Oh, that's not even fast food. That's

00:49:43

That's the best meal in the world.

00:49:45

>> It is. You're right. That's literally

00:49:46

the best.

00:49:46

>> Well, then let me get on this. We're on

00:49:48

food chains. RFK Junior question. What's

00:49:49

in Dunkin Donuts products in

00:49:51

Massachusetts is not having it. Governor

00:49:53

Mora Healey posted an image with a

00:49:55

Dunkin cup saying come and take it.

00:49:57

Others are having fun with uh the the

00:49:59

jab on social media saying things like

00:50:01

if this administration changes anything

00:50:02

that goes into Duncan I will make

00:50:04

January 6 look like a tea party. Um you

00:50:07

know it's interesting they're going

00:50:08

after brands like well RFK is such an

00:50:11

such a another [ __ ] Um it's it's

00:50:14

interesting because remember when

00:50:15

Bloomberg did this with the co with the

00:50:17

sugar? It wasn't good. It wasn't a good

00:50:19

minute for him.

00:50:19

>> Now the big gulp. What do you what do

00:50:22

you think about this? I think Duncan is

00:50:24

not a good thing to go after. I feel

00:50:25

like people really like that Dunkin

00:50:27

Donuts. They really do.

00:50:30

>> They know it's full of sugar. They're

00:50:31

aware.

00:50:32

>> America runs on Duncan. Cara, um,

00:50:35

>> look, I I think people have the right to

00:50:37

kill themselves. And if they want to do

00:50:39

it slowly with McDonald's and Duncan,

00:50:41

that's kind of their opportunity. I

00:50:43

think the government has an obligation

00:50:44

to go the other way and provide more

00:50:46

education. 70% of Americans are obese or

00:50:49

overweight. It's like 38% are obese. In

00:50:51

Japan, it's 4%. And it starts very

00:50:53

early. They have every public school has

00:50:56

to have a nutritionist and they are not

00:50:58

allowed to have any processed food and

00:51:00

everything has to be fresh in the

00:51:01

morning.

00:51:01

>> There's a whole scene in my documentary

00:51:03

with me in a Korean school eating their

00:51:05

food. It's astonishing when you see

00:51:07

>> and you ask these kids what their

00:51:08

favorite food is. They're like broccoli.

00:51:10

>> Yes. They were like, "Oh, this kimchi

00:51:12

here." It was a fermented food. It was

00:51:15

miso soup. It was rice. Certainly. It

00:51:18

was It was so good. It was so healthy.

00:51:20

It was crazy. and they end up paying

00:51:21

6,000 or $7,000 per consumer on

00:51:24

healthcare and we pay 13,000 folks.

00:51:26

Let's do the math. So, I don't like I

00:51:28

don't like demonizing.

00:51:30

>> Look, I like McDonald's. I like Dunkin

00:51:32

Donuts. I like to think that because of

00:51:35

education early on I I got some, you

00:51:38

know, I'm focused on eating the right

00:51:40

foods. Also, the reality is fast food is

00:51:43

a function of poverty and that is or or

00:51:46

going back to the same income inequality

00:51:48

and that is if you're a single mother,

00:51:50

>> the cheapest caloric intake is fast

00:51:52

food.

00:51:53

>> It is.

00:51:53

>> And people people want to get moral and

00:51:55

lecture people about the importance of

00:51:56

cooking at home and cooking with good

00:51:58

food. Actually, the the myth is that

00:52:00

cooking at home saves you money. No,

00:52:01

it's not. To cook at home with natural

00:52:03

ingredients is really expensive.

00:52:05

>> It is.

00:52:06

>> And so,

00:52:07

>> and also time. A lot of people have two

00:52:09

jobs

00:52:09

>> or food deserts.

00:52:10

>> Yeah.

00:52:10

>> Uh but again, I'm I I've said this

00:52:13

before. I think the most transformative

00:52:15

technology over the next five or 10

00:52:16

years is not AI. I think it's GLP1. But

00:52:19

>> um love McDonald's. Think people should

00:52:21

have the right to kill themselves fast

00:52:22

or slow if they want.

00:52:24

>> But I think a really good investment

00:52:26

would be giving people enough money and

00:52:28

enough education that they want to and

00:52:29

can afford to eat well.

00:52:31

>> Yeah. But I have to say I wouldn't go up

00:52:33

against Mara Healey. I would not if I

00:52:35

were you, RFK. She's a tough nut. She

00:52:37

was a big basketball player. I don't

00:52:38

know if you know that. She was a very

00:52:39

good one. Um anyway, uh we'll see what

00:52:42

happen, right? That one.

00:52:43

>> Yeah, she's great. But it's really

00:52:45

interesting that that these these I have

00:52:47

to say some of the brands on social

00:52:49

media are really interesting. Um and

00:52:52

some of them are better than others.

00:52:53

Wendy's does an amazing job, for

00:52:54

example, online.

00:52:56

>> Well, you know what Peter Pan's favorite

00:52:57

place to eat out is?

00:52:58

>> Where where is

00:52:59

>> Wendy's?

00:53:01

Oh god, I can't believe you have a dirty

00:53:04

joke about Wendy's. Oh, thank God. All

00:53:08

right, Scott, one more quick break.

00:53:10

We'll be back for predictions. Okay,

00:53:12

Scott. Um, let's hear a prediction. I

00:53:14

have something very quickly to say in

00:53:16

the prediction department. I if for

00:53:18

people who didn't notice, there was a

00:53:19

story uh again on uh bots again about

00:53:24

problems with wrongful deaths and

00:53:25

suicides. This time it's Google with

00:53:28

Gemini AI chatbot coached a man towards

00:53:30

suicide. And it is the story is

00:53:32

devastating. This is an adult, not a ch

00:53:35

not a young person, not someone

00:53:37

underage, but uh it's still just as

00:53:39

devastating what it did and what it told

00:53:41

him to do and it made him go to places

00:53:43

and look for things in order to find a

00:53:46

robot to put this digital girlfriend

00:53:48

into. Um, I have to say I predict some

00:53:52

really significant legislation around

00:53:54

this in a way that is probably going to

00:53:57

be too reactive and at the same time um,

00:54:01

uh, it necessary because of the way

00:54:02

these companies are conducting their

00:54:04

their chat bots that interact with

00:54:06

people on a personal level and they have

00:54:08

done nothing to to rein them in. Um, and

00:54:11

so I think there's going to be a flood

00:54:13

of things around how we interact with

00:54:16

technology, uh, that's going to be

00:54:18

bipartisan and pretty ugly for the tech

00:54:20

companies. Go ahead. I've been talking

00:54:22

about this for years, but I think

00:54:23

>> Yeah. And I didn't mean to make light at

00:54:25

fast food that there was that mass

00:54:26

shooting at a fast food restaurant where

00:54:28

the guy was screaming, "You've ordered

00:54:29

your last McRib." And then one of the

00:54:31

workers said, "Sir, this is a Wendy's."

00:54:33

>> Oh my god,

00:54:34

>> that's so wrong, Cara.

00:54:36

>> It's so wrong.

00:54:37

>> That's so wrong.

00:54:37

>> Either way. Anyway, what's your

00:54:39

prediction?

00:54:40

>> You know, I want to take some license

00:54:43

here and I wanted to talk I wanted to do

00:54:45

kind of a a fail in a win. And that is

00:54:49

um

00:54:51

I just I watched I'm one of my living

00:54:54

heroes is uh Madame uh Secretary Clinton

00:54:58

and it's the only person I've ever

00:55:01

canvas for. And

00:55:03

I saw what I saw uh when I saw I watched

00:55:07

her entire testimony.

00:55:09

I just thought the level of sexism

00:55:13

was so [ __ ] insane.

00:55:16

Um and that is um so first off,

00:55:22

when is the last time

00:55:24

a man was asked repeatedly to explain

00:55:27

his wife's behavior or actions?

00:55:30

and the the absurdity of holding wives

00:55:32

accountable for husbands.

00:55:35

And here's what's so incredibly [ __ ]

00:55:37

up about this. We live in a world

00:55:38

>> they ought to responsible for you. So go

00:55:40

ahead.

00:55:41

>> We live in a world where a woman with

00:55:42

her own 50-year career in public

00:55:44

service, senator, secretary of state,

00:55:45

presidential candidate gets hauled in

00:55:48

front of a committee and asked to

00:55:49

explain what her husband did, not what

00:55:51

you did, what he did. And also there's

00:55:55

this implicit assumption that like and

00:55:58

why didn't you stop him? And we've seen

00:56:00

the same [ __ ] for decades. When a

00:56:02

powerful man does something wrong, we

00:56:05

turn to his wife and ask, "Where were

00:56:06

you? Why didn't you know? Why didn't you

00:56:08

leave him? Why are you still with him?"

00:56:10

>> She's often

00:56:12

>> and we never ask the inverse. When a

00:56:14

woman in power screws up, we don't haul

00:56:16

her husband in and ask him to explain

00:56:18

her choices.

00:56:19

>> We don't demand he account for her

00:56:21

behavior. Yeah,

00:56:22

>> we don't ask why did you stay with her

00:56:25

>> because implicit in all this is this

00:56:28

>> we do ask that but go ahead

00:56:30

>> implicit in all this is this assumption

00:56:32

that men are autonomous agents

00:56:33

responsible for their own actions which

00:56:35

is right whereas women are responsible

00:56:38

for everyone's actions including their

00:56:40

husbands the double standard is

00:56:43

staggering if if if Hillary had left

00:56:46

Bill after the Lewinsky scandal she'd

00:56:48

have been called a calculating

00:56:49

opportunist who who abandoned him and

00:56:52

that it was politically convenient. If

00:56:53

she stays with him, she's complicit in

00:56:56

everything

00:56:57

um he's ever done. So, I just think it's

00:57:00

insane that they kept asking her

00:57:03

questions when he was testifying the

00:57:05

next [ __ ] day. Well, ask him.

00:57:07

>> She handled it beautifully.

00:57:08

>> Yeah, I agree. So now just to to piss

00:57:11

off the Brooklyn Sandled or Birkenstock

00:57:14

crowd on the other side, there is

00:57:17

absolutely a double standard

00:57:19

for for women when it comes to asking

00:57:23

them to explain obvious discretions or

00:57:27

conflicts of interest. Watching the

00:57:28

exchange, basically saying, "Are you

00:57:30

having sex with are you in an

00:57:33

extrammarital?" And I I'm gonna be

00:57:35

clear. I'm not judging them on having an

00:57:36

extrammarital affair or having sex. When

00:57:39

you're having a relationship with your

00:57:41

number two who is unqualified,

00:57:44

that is reason to be fired at any

00:57:46

organization, any corporation, much less

00:57:49

a cabinet position. And and what the

00:57:51

exchange reminded me of was how

00:57:53

selectively we apply accountability and

00:57:56

politics. And as someone who considers

00:57:57

them a feminist, that means you're

00:57:59

subject to the same opportunities. And

00:58:00

also, you're entitled to the same amount

00:58:03

of [ __ ] as everybody else. And when male

00:58:05

politicians face questions about

00:58:08

personal conduct, the expectation is

00:58:09

clear. Answer the [ __ ] question. And

00:58:12

when they dodge, the press and the

00:58:14

opposition usually press harder until

00:58:16

they deny it or or admit it.

00:58:18

>> Tony Gonzalez, did that just happen?

00:58:20

>> Evasion becomes the story. But when a

00:58:22

woman, Secretary Gnome, respond to a

00:58:24

direct question about a relationship,

00:58:26

calling it total garbage and declining

00:58:28

to actually say no, the moment largely

00:58:31

passed without the same relentless

00:58:33

followup.

00:58:34

>> Yeah, Gonzalez is still in the news for

00:58:36

>> because of this double standard of being

00:58:37

accused of [ __ ] shaming. This is sexism

00:58:40

the other way. If a male cabinet

00:58:42

secretary responded that way to a

00:58:43

similar question, the headlines would

00:58:45

reads would read refuses to deny and the

00:58:48

questioning wouldn't stop. So there is

00:58:50

sexism asking women to take

00:58:52

responsibility for their husbands, but

00:58:54

at the same time there's a double

00:58:56

standard of a lack of accountability

00:58:58

amongst women for the same types of

00:59:00

things where the press and and other

00:59:03

lawmakers would not let up. God

00:59:06

>> lawmakers I know I think lawmakers did

00:59:09

did not let up. I think they said it

00:59:11

>> it's over. It's done.

00:59:12

>> They are not they are doing their job.

00:59:14

They did ask and they asked several

00:59:15

times. say yes.

00:59:17

>> If this had been Bill Clinton or another

00:59:22

media until they clarified their

00:59:24

comments.

00:59:24

>> I'm going to say you're right about the

00:59:25

media. I'd say I think they

00:59:29

they asked as hard as they could and she

00:59:31

just refused. She went she just

00:59:33

>> I think I think they should have said

00:59:34

the following and it's easy to pick when

00:59:36

I think one of them senators should have

00:59:38

said

00:59:38

>> you are having an inappropriate

00:59:40

relationship with your number two who is

00:59:43

unqualified and this puts the nation at

00:59:45

risk. I would have backed her into a

00:59:46

[ __ ] corner.

00:59:47

>> That's fair that they could have done it

00:59:49

a different way. You're right.

00:59:50

>> So I'll move on. Um real quick my

00:59:53

prediction yeah

00:59:54

>> is no. And that is Dario Amodi has given

00:59:59

license and permission to CEOs to say

01:00:01

no.

01:00:01

>> And in the next 30 days, you are going

01:00:04

to see a raft of CEOs find their

01:00:07

testicles and start saying no to this

01:00:09

administration.

01:00:10

>> No. No. There's going to be a lot of

01:00:12

that. I agree with you 100%. Um, okay.

01:00:14

Well, speaking of yes, we will be in

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Minnesota, everybody. Just so you know,

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we're going to be there on Sunday night

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Markets, Scott spoke with big short

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legend Steve Iceman about why he thinks

01:00:59

the war in Iran is unlikely to rattle

01:01:01

markets and why the bigger risk

01:01:03

investors should be watching again is

01:01:05

AI. Let's listen to a clip.

01:01:07

>> Everything that's being created by

01:01:09

people who are doing AI has value. The

01:01:11

question is how much value? So much

01:01:13

money is being spent.

01:01:17

Are the returns that these companies are

01:01:20

going to generate, are they going to

01:01:21

justify those returns? I suspect not. If

01:01:24

I had to stake my life on it, I'd say

01:01:26

we'd have some kind of replay where,

01:01:31

you know, in the internet bubble, the

01:01:32

first generation of internet companies

01:01:34

basically failed. And it was the second

01:01:37

generation of internet companies that

01:01:39

that took us on to glory in terms of the

01:01:41

value of the internet.

01:01:42

>> Oh, very good. Very sensible. That makes

01:01:44

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did it. I mean, we just thought about it

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on the show and then we made it. So,

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01:20:01

Tim Walz is "Petty As Hell" After Kristi Noem Firing | Pivot

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December 05, 2025

52:48

How Kara Swisher "Cracked the Case"… and Got Dragged Into the Nuzzi-Lizza-RFK Jr drama | Pivot

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January 30, 2026

59:06

Resist and Unsubscribe: Scott Galloway’s Plan to Hit Big Tech Where It Hurts | Pivot

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01:00:16

Trump Sends Military After Protesters in Authoritarian Move | Pivot

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January 13, 2026

01:15:09

Scott Galloway Explains Why He Got Cosmetic Surgery | Pivot

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01:02:37

How Trump Plans to Incentivize a Baby Boom | Pivot

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December 16, 2025

59:43

Kara Swisher Says New AI Executive Order Is “Idiotic” | Pivot

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February 13, 2026

01:05:50

Nancy Guthrie Disappearance Raises New Surveillance Questions | Pivot

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November 15, 2024

10:41

The Chaos of Donald Trump's Cabinet Picks | Pivot

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01:07:31

How Trump Is “Workshopping” His Iran War Plan | Pivot

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01:03:13

Who’s to Blame After Texas Flooding Tragedy — And What Needs to Change | Pivot

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September 12, 2025

01:11:27

Charlie Kirk Assassination: Condemnation, Division, and Conspiracies | Pivot