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California, China, Offer Two Visions of Greener World

March 06, 2013 / 01:24

This episode discusses carbon tax implications, California's carbon trade system, and potential multilateral relationships in carbon permit exchanges.

The conversation highlights how California's carbon trading system is being observed by other states and countries, including China and Quebec. The possibility of scaling California's model to other states in the U.S. is questioned due to political will.

Listeners learn about the interactions between California and Quebec regarding carbon permits, suggesting a future where multiple states may engage in carbon trading without federal involvement.

The episode emphasizes the importance of state-level initiatives in addressing climate change and the potential for regional collaborations.

TL;DR

California's carbon trade system may influence U.S. states' climate policies without federal action.

Episode

1:24
00:00:01
if China actually moves to a carbon tax
00:00:04
how does that uh reflect on us as a
00:00:06
country and uh everybody is is watching
00:00:09
what California is doing now with that
00:00:12
carbon carbon uh trade system um and the
00:00:16
question is whether we can scale what
00:00:18
California is doing to the US uh I'm not
00:00:21
sure now that we have the political will
00:00:22
to do that but now if you forget about
00:00:25
the federal level and think about state
00:00:27
level California has that system Europe
00:00:30
as that system The Province and Quebec
00:00:32
of Quebec just jointly uh interacted
00:00:35
with California now so you can actually
00:00:37
exchange permit between Quebec and
00:00:39
California and there would be other uh
00:00:42
multilateral uh relationship like that
00:00:45
so maybe we will never have that system
00:00:48
at the federal level in the US but maybe
00:00:50
you know five or 10 years down the road
00:00:52
uh 10 or 15 states in the E will be
00:00:54
exchanges carbon permit uh at a level
00:00:57
that will not impact the business
00:00:59
hopefully
00:01:03
[Music]

Episode Highlights

Episode Quotes

Key Moments

  • California's Trade System00:09
  • State-Level Initiatives00:25
  • Multilateral Relationships00:42
  • Future of Carbon Permits00:48

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