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What Will China's Likely Carbon Tax Mean?

March 04, 2013 / 02:32

This episode discusses China's potential carbon tax, its implications for the US, and the challenges of implementation. Key topics include the tax range, collection, and impact on exports.

The conversation highlights that a carbon tax in China is not a new concept, with previous discussions mentioning a range of $1 to $8 per ton. The current price of coal in China is around $80, indicating that the tax may not significantly impact costs.

Another focus is on the implementation of the tax, which is expected to be managed at the provincial level. Questions arise about who will collect the tax revenue and how it will be allocated.

The episode also considers the potential effects on American consumers, noting that a carbon tax in China could lead to increased prices for US customers due to the interconnectedness of global trade.

Overall, the discussion raises questions about whether China's actions might encourage similar initiatives in the US Congress.

TL;DR

China's potential carbon tax could raise prices for US consumers and prompt US legislative action.

Episode

2:32
00:00:01
Clearly there is a big buzz um around
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you know China's position over the past
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few days saying that yeah there may be a
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carbon tax in China. So everybody's
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talking about it. I guess the question
00:00:12
is well what does that mean for China?
00:00:14
What does that mean for us here in the
00:00:15
US? Actually I would even rephrase the
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question which is well how what are we
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talking about here really? Uh a carbon
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tax is not something new for China. The
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uh the question would be how much is
00:00:27
that task task? So maybe if you remember
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two years ago the finance minister of
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China had already talked about a carbon
00:00:34
tax that when we talk about the range
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was somewhat between one and eight US on
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on a ton. So just to give you a
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reference point in China now I haven't
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checked this morning but the uh the ton
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of coal for instance about 80 80 bucks.
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So we're not talking about massive tax
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especially if it's $1 per ton. Uh so the
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second question would be how much how
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big will that tax be? I mean that's
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really for me that's really the uh the
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big thing. Then the second question
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would be who's going to actually
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implement that and we've learned from
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China the big question is typically the
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implementation side. So it's done now at
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the at the central government level most
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likely they will have the provinces to
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establish this this these scheme and
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then the question is well who's going to
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collect the money? How where is that
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money going to go? how is that money
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going to be spent? So that's a big
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question. Then the third question to me
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is who's going to actually pay that
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carbon tax at the end of the day. Uh if
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you the number is somewhere between 30
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and 40% of uh exports here. So most of
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that here in the US. So at the end of
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the day, carbon tax in China may
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actually means increase price for
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American customers which is interesting
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due to the intelligency of the world
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today. So that's uh to me that that's a
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big picture we face and obviously
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hopefully maybe that will trigger some
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uh interest in the US Congress and to do
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something more in that space as well. If
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China does it maybe the US can do it as
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well.
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[Music]

Episode Highlights

  • China's Carbon Tax Discussion
    China is considering a carbon tax, raising questions about its implications for the US economy.
    “What does that mean for us here in the US?”
    @ 00m 14s
    March 04, 2013
  • Impact on American Consumers
    A potential carbon tax in China could lead to higher prices for American customers.
    “Carbon tax in China may actually mean increased prices for American customers.”
    @ 01m 46s
    March 04, 2013
  • Inspiration for US Policy
    The discussion around China's carbon tax could motivate US Congress to take action.
    “If China does it, maybe the US can do it as well.”
    @ 02m 07s
    March 04, 2013

Episode Quotes

  • What does that mean for us here in the US?
    What Will China's Likely Carbon Tax Mean?
  • Carbon tax in China may actually mean increased prices for American customers.
    What Will China's Likely Carbon Tax Mean?
  • If China does it, maybe the US can do it as well.
    What Will China's Likely Carbon Tax Mean?

Key Moments

  • China's Carbon Tax00:08
  • Economic Implications00:14
  • US Response02:07

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