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February 19, 2026 / 01:00:34

This episode features a conversation with Eddie Vedder, discussing his documentary on epidermolysis bullosa (EB), the return of Scrubs, and personal anecdotes from the music industry.

Eddie Vedder, known as the lead singer of Pearl Jam, shares insights about his documentary focusing on EB, a severe skin condition. He highlights the challenges faced by families and the ongoing research efforts to find treatments.

The hosts, David Spade and Dana Carvey, reflect on their experiences in comedy and music, including humorous stories from their time on Saturday Night Live. They discuss the evolution of music scenes, particularly in Seattle during the 90s.

Additionally, the episode touches on the emotional impact of losing beloved figures in comedy and music, including Katherine O'Hara. The hosts express their admiration for her talent and the legacy she left behind.

Overall, the episode combines humor, heartfelt discussions, and a focus on important social issues, making it a memorable listen for fans of comedy and music.

TL;DR

Eddie Vedder discusses his EB documentary, Scrubs' return, and personal music anecdotes with David Spade and Dana Carvey.

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The Emmy-winning comedy Scrubs is back.
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The beloved original cast led by Zack
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Braph, Donald Faison, and Sarah Chalk
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have returned to Sacred Heart Hospital
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for all new hilarious and heartfelt
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stories.
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>> The new season of Scrubs, new Wednesdays
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at 87 central on ABC and stream on Hulu.
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>> To be honest, there was a real thing in
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Seattle where ambition was kind of
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looked down upon, you know.
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>> I I could see that. But the one at 10, I
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was pretty hammered.
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You know, that was a surprise. Well,
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they sent me the script. Dana, we were
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gonna We were going to
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>> Yeah. For a moment,
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>> I was excited for SNL.
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>> I couldn't even believe you were even
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possibly going to do that with me. I was
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>> And then next thing you know, they had
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me dressed up as a pirate.
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>> Oh, that's right.
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>> They didn't really agree to that.
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>> Edward Veter. You know him as Eddie
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Veter. I know him as Ed.
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>> Mhm.
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>> Very good friend.
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>> Singer songwriter. Was one of the
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original the Pearl Jam.
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>> Pearl Jam. Everybody Everybody knows
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>> Pearl Jam. One of the iconic bands out
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of Seattle in the 90s. And so we got to
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talk to Eddie Veter, which was really,
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really interesting.
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>> He's got a documentary out about EB,
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which is a skin condition, which is
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quite a rough ride.
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and he has spent 15 years along with his
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wife battling this disease with benefits
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that you and I have done to raise money
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for research and they're making
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>> scientists got everyone on board.
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Everyone on deck got
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>> on a lighter note when I was on SNL I
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remember
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that I did a joke where I go Stone
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Temple Pilots have a new album. I like
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these guys the first time I saw them
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when they were called Pearl Jam. It was
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one of those.
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>> Oh, really? So as if it was a total
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ripoff.
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>> Yeah. And then cuz he's like I feel
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ready to go
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raining in your bedroom and I see. So So
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then Stone Temple came on about four
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months later and then Marcy Klein comes
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up. She goes, "David Stone Temple wants
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you to come down rehearsal." And I go,
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"Oh." And then she goes, "Actually,
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wait, don't go. They the guy wants to
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kick the [ __ ] out of you." And I go,
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"Oh,
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>> oh, because okay, that's hit too close
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for home. A joke saying you're kind of
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like this band." That's Oh, that's
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>> bands don't want to hear that. Although
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Eddie Veter um has he's got the voice.
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He's got a voice that's instantly with
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its phrasing and his tenor is instantly
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recognizable.
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>> Yes. I take him through the top rock
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voices of all time. And uh I told him, I
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said, "I can't promise you're on it.
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It's whatever my list is. My list. Don't
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get me wrong." That was a tense moment
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in the interview
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>> and uh but Scott Wyland actually just to
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say as a caveat
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that did happen but I did run into him
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years later because I do like Stone
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Temple Pilots. Most of the people made
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fun of him. Great. And so he was uh
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changed his tune was very cool.
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>> Very cool.
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You know, you it's harder to explain
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that
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in that particular joke
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the triple name there's an official, you
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know, like your Pearl Jam, Stone Temple
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Pilots. There was probably a reason that
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you picked that band because you could
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have picked
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>> Creed or, you know, whatever.
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>> You would have picked Helen Ready
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>> with eyes wide open.
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>> They're great. That's
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>> But anyway, back to Eddie Veter. Oh,
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right. We Eddie Veter is our guest.
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>> Lot of fun. We crack up um
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>> thoughtful and interesting interview.
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And we do laugh
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>> and for those deep dive fly on the wall
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frequent flyers, we do
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>> Yeah.
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>> Gervitz because he knows Gervitz. So,
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look for that.
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>> He's Mark Gervitz's very good friend and
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he's our manager. And so, we always do
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this.
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>> Well, David really started it.
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>> Make fun of Mark.
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>> It doesn't really sound like him, but
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it's it's funny. It's a It's a
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frequency. It's an exaggeration.
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>> It's funnier the way we do it than the
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real life.
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>> Yeah. Yeah. Well, that's I love
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impressions that go to an abstraction.
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>> All right. Here's our boy.
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>> Got to do it.
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>> Thanks for coming on.
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>> What you want to talk about?
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>> Hi, Eddie.
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>> Can you hear us?
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>> Hey, David. I can hear you. Great.
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>> Good. Good.
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>> You know, Eddie, I have a cool hat like
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that, too.
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>> We've traded hats before.
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Are you sure?
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>> Yeah.
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>> There it is. We still got it.
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>> Wow.
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>> It's a little It's a little sweaty cuz
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as you can see cuz I'm a bit of a rocker
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and sometimes I sweat when I'm working.
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>> We're kind of rockers too in a way. I
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mean, not in the way you are, but you
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know.
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>> Oh, I would say absolutely you are.
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>> No. No. Nope. were never were I guess
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that's the pinnacle in a way as a little
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kid of just in a band. I mean I was in a
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band with my brother you know I had a
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hardy boy book as a snare and a kick
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drum was a basket and you had a one
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string guitar. We all start out that way
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and then at some point we go um maybe
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not my
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>> when the money's not flowing
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>> when the money's no I got out of that in
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high school but what about like what do
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you want to talk about? Would you like
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to talk about your Netflix special
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first? You could do you can run this
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show any way you want.
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>> Yeah.
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>> And then we'll um
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>> Well, you know what I mean? The as
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heartbreaking as the the EB uh subject
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can be um though also hopeful.
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>> Uh another heartbreaking thing that that
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has been on my mind
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uh was the loss of Katherine O'Hara. And
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I just wanted to
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>> look I'm chills already. I'm uh
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>> you know really only having met her five
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different times over the years.
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>> Mhm. you know, and and compared to the
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way you know her, um,
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you know, I even I was just absolutely
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gutted and and I just I wished all the
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people that had never had the chance to
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to be in her presence and to have a
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laugh. And
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she was she was everything and more that
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you'd expect or dream of her being. She
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was just such a incredible energy and
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and that loss is is so profound and and
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that's why that's been on my mind
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>> for sure. Yeah. Over here too with me
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and Dana.
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>> Yeah.
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>> Dana spent more time with her than I
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did. But man, you can't find anyone that
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doesn't love Katherine out there.
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>> Yeah. And just an effortless, brilliant
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performer. Always making the choice you
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don't expect. making her peers laugh and
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the whole world laugh and her presence
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just no apparent ego or whatever you
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call that. I mean, she knew who she was,
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but it's just I don't know if it's
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Canadian or what there's John Candy and
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others. They're just sort of extra extra
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>> um and um
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so
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>> Marty as well.
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>> Marty Short. Yeah, another
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>> Yeah, I home for I guess it's okay to
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say memorial at the Catholic church this
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past weekend
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>> and it was really really uh emotional
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and Marty gave the eulogy and he was um
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special.
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>> Yeah.
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>> Funny and and and
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>> yeah, they always got to make some jokes
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in because it's so heavy. It's so hard
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>> because you would want it that way. I
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mean, they, you know, comedians kind of,
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you know, want the the music to carry on
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really. Of course, we're all sad, but we
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have all this stuff of her brilliance to
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share for a long time, forever.
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>> I I heard her sister was uh in
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attendance obviously, but um Mary
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Margaret
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>> Yeah.
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>> Uh who's put out some great music that
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um affected me deeply. Oh, really?
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>> Yeah. She had a great album. Probably
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even in the late 80s, I think Michael
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Stipe helped with it. Um, it was called
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Miss America.
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Um,
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yeah, there's a If you watch David
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Sanborn used to have a show, was it? Uh,
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>> David Sanborn. Yeah. Yeah, I remember
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that show.
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>> Late Show and he'd get all these
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interesting musicians together and she
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um I think the song's called When You
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Know. But if you look up her on on that
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show, it's such a such a cool
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performance and you can see the
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sisterhood
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there.
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>> It is. It's kind of interesting. We have
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this in our world too because I was
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looking up some of, you know, the the
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bands of the 90s in Seattle and all that
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and and just I was just going to say and
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then it had a list of like 50 other what
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they were calling grunge which I want to
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ask you about the the names of rock over
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the years, you know, punk and grunch and
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you hard rock, alternative rock, you
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know, soft rock.
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>> So, you must have known and know so many
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bands that didn't break through quote
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unquote. And maybe that wasn't even
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their goal. I mean, the goal for me was
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always that this would be my job and
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I'll see how it goes, but that was the
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dream.
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What about you?
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>> Well, oh, and before I forget, Night
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Music was the name of the David
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>> David Samborg Night Music. Wherever you
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get your David Samborg
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night music, variety shows.
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Well, you know, I kind of my main after
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I graduated from things like Jackson 5
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and Mottown when I was a kid and then I
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had kind of some older brothers um
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because I was in a a group home thing
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that my parents helped run.
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>> So then I was turned on to a lot of Sly
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family stone and James Brown and kind of
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more adult
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uh Mottown music and stacks and all
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that. And then
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and then there was, you know, kind of
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Beatles, but then it became The Who and
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the Kinks and
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>> to The Jam and so so the but the 60s
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British stuff
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um and Stones, etc. You know, that
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seemed like the most exciting time to be
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alive. you know, when I was 15,
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listening to uh enveloped and engrossed
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in
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all that British invasion stuff, um it
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seemed like Tuesday nights at the
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Marquee for The Who and you know, all
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those bands getting together or Hrix
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showing up and blowing everybody's
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minds. Yeah,
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>> that seemed like the coolest time to be
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alive and and you would read about it
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and
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>> and think if I what it would have been
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like to, you know, I was born too late,
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you know, if you could have and and then
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in the wrong place
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>> if you wanted to be part of what was
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kind of
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one of the most, if not the most
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extraordinary periods of music. And then
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kind of waking up one day, I I I
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remember almost to the day
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waking up and looking around and and all
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of a sudden being part of a a
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uh scene, a a legitimate
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scene that
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was a community and was all very
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supportive of each other. And so of all
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the bands of note, you know, Sound
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Garden and Alice and Chains, and then
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first there was Mother Love Bone, which
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turned into Pearl Jam, but was Green
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River before that. And then Green River,
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half of it turned into Mudhoney.
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>> Mud Honey. Yeah.
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>> It's like the Fastbacks and
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uh the human and you know, these groups
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that
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>> didn't quite
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>> uh
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>> different levels.
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>> Yeah. Well, and I and I Dana, you
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mentioned it. You know, maybe they that
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wasn't part of either their goal or
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their ambition.
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Uh because to be honest, there was a
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real thing in Seattle where ambition was
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kind of looked down upon, you know.
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>> I I could see that that's what the vibe
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was from afar. Like we're not trying to
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be cool or commercial. We got something
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to say. It's actually hurts us the
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bigger we get. I mean, it you guys took
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off. It seemed so fast. It probably was
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not as
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>> I don't know if anyone had a bigger
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first album. I mean, it's like sort of
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like
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just
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>> Was 91 that out? Because there was I
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looked up in ' 91 some monster albums
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came out in one year and I think you
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probably heard this, but it was like
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Nirvana, Pearl Jam, um I think it was
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maybe Metallica, Van Halen, Guns and
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Roses, Use Your Illusion. I was like
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shocked by how many bangers in a row in
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an eight-month period came out. And uh
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we tried to slurp them all over to SNL.
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We didn't didn't get everybody. But one
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of my early shows was you.
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>> We got Pearl.
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>> Sharon Stone show.
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>> Yeah.
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>> Sharon Stone. Phil was alive. Phil
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Hartman.
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>> Oh yeah.
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>> Uh I still have
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>> You had a good You had a good pocket
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there when you got on.
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>> Yeah.
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>> All right. Go ahead. You have something
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with Phil? You got a photo? uh Polaroid
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uh was Love It and Phil
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sitting at the end of the night and um I
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came across those recently and and it
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was powerful to see and you know not
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only having
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been like a devote of the show since
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staying up
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>> late when I was 12 or whatever it was.
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Um,
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it was uh just such a formidable
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uh yet completely enjoyable experience
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to actually,
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you know, uh be in those those hollowed
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halls. And I still remember making
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friends with a couple of the old dudes,
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you know, the crew guys or the guy who
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sits silver chair with the
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>> Saturday Night Live kind of
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calligraphied on the back. And
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>> yeah.
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>> Yeah.
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>> Um, you know, going back and seeing
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those people uh over the years was
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always uh real exciting, you know, or
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getting to meet Don Partardo or you
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know, all that stuff is
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>> you came once.
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>> You came on twice and I saw in my deep
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research even though I know you a little
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bit, but um I think the second time you
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came on you got three songs. That is so
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rare. Is that true? Cuz I think you had
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maybe Betterman or daughter something.
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You you had three
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>> and the first time it was alive and
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something else and I thought, "Holy
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[ __ ] look at this spoiled dude." You
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had three they roll in with.
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>> I forgot about that. Yeah.
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>> Yeah. It's a big deal. It was to us. We
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were like, "Shit, man."
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>> I don't think they told us until after
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the first
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rehearsal show, right? So, you do a a
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first show at 6 or something.
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>> Yeah. dresser. So yeah,
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>> in between they said,
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>> "Oh,
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>> do you want to do one more?" So
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>> got anything else.
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>> What that means is um one or two of the
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the skits or whatever. What?
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>> Yeah, Gap Girls got cut for you. Thank
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you.
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>> So I I don't think it was based on what
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we were offering. I think it was the l
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the lack of uh good response.
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>> Yeah, we bombed
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>> Nor doing news at that point. Was it
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Norm?
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>> Was Norm doing the news? It's a good
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question because it was 91 and 93. It
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was probably
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>> was Kevin Nean and then Norm.
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>> Oh, it might have been Kevin.
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>> Yeah, might have been the end of Dennis
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on the first one because 91 that was
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probably my first year.
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>> Yeah. And daddy and I are very close to
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the same age. We won't say any numbers
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out there, but
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>> yeah,
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>> you had you had a birthday recently and
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I was like, "Okay,
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>> I'm a I'm a half step up."
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>> I was It was fun.
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>> I'm a half step up. So, when I heard the
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90s sound come in and from Seattle,
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let's say it did feel like something
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new, a its own little mini renaissance.
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It It was different. You know, there
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were hair bands in the 80s and stuff.
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There was I don't know. It was a a
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different sound which I appreciated a
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lot. I just love hard rock. I love
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>> whatever you guys were doing. I mean,
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but
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>> Poison out of business.
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>> Poison. Well, what we don't want to pick
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on those bands, but you know what? It
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was sort of a shift.
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>> It was a It was a shift. It was very
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cool.
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>> The Emmy winning comedy Scrubs is back
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to ABC with a fresh pulse. It's been 15
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years since we've checked in with the
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gang at Sacred Heart Hospital. The
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beloved original cast, Zack Braph,
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There's only two things I wanted to ask
00:19:52
you very quickly just about because I I
00:19:54
heard about the Who and Neil Young. You
00:19:56
maybe like them, but I thought of Roger
00:19:59
Daltry and you and I I did connect the
00:20:02
dots between there's some symmetry there
00:20:06
with a big voice and also can go really
00:20:08
soft. So, who's next? The the aside is
00:20:12
maybe as good as anything that's ever
00:20:14
been recorded in my mind. And then Neil
00:20:16
Young was maybe the father of Grunge
00:20:20
with Rust Never Sleeps. Um or Hey my my
00:20:26
electric,
00:20:28
you know.
00:20:29
>> So I heard you love those two things. So
00:20:31
I just wanted to cosign that.
00:20:33
>> Well, yeah. I think Neil has been given
00:20:35
the moniker of Godfather of Grunge. Not
00:20:39
just because of the flannel, but because
00:20:41
of the sound.
00:20:43
>> Yeah. Um, and his sound up close.
00:20:47
>> You know, one of the very fortunate
00:20:49
things, uh, having worked with him and
00:20:51
playing live is
00:20:54
>> the sound of his amp,
00:20:58
uh, up close. Um, it's like standing
00:21:02
next to an erupting volcano,
00:21:05
>> for sure.
00:21:06
>> Or the biggest wave at Yamea Bay
00:21:08
crashing under the shore. It's and then
00:21:11
and then he seems to kind of lose
00:21:13
himself
00:21:15
in this way
00:21:17
where he kind of starts shapeshifting
00:21:20
and kind of turns into like a shaman and
00:21:22
then
00:21:23
>> then he seems like he's an old Indian
00:21:25
and and and then he turns into like a
00:21:27
young kid and and you're like in the
00:21:31
cage with the lion. Um
00:21:36
it's it's
00:21:37
>> Yeah. uh it will vibrate your souls uh
00:21:40
your cells.
00:21:41
>> It it's unique because he he looks like
00:21:44
he's almost struggling or sort of
00:21:46
[ __ ] in a way when he gets into that
00:21:48
trance and then when I listened to his
00:21:51
solo on Cortez the Killer which I got to
00:21:54
hang out with him a few times and told
00:21:55
him what it meant to me how that song
00:21:58
first of all it's like and then his solo
00:22:01
in that and no one plays like Neil.
00:22:04
There's others equally brilliant, but he
00:22:06
has his own lane and it's this magic,
00:22:08
you know, magic.
00:22:10
>> Yeah. He he channels, you know, he
00:22:13
really channels and and
00:22:16
>> in order to do that, you have to be in
00:22:18
tune to
00:22:20
you know, the energy, the, you know,
00:22:23
whatever's out there. Um, and that's a
00:22:28
that's a skill in itself, you know,
00:22:30
beyond,
00:22:32
you know, the notes seem to come not
00:22:33
from a scale. They seem to come from a
00:22:38
>> Yeah.
00:22:38
>> divine
00:22:40
>> to stay a child or be in touch with that
00:22:43
when your higher consciousness hadn't
00:22:45
kicked in and you're just being playful
00:22:47
>> like a four-year-old drawing and yet
00:22:49
you're a human adult. And then when you
00:22:53
get in touch with that that part of you,
00:22:55
boy, it's a lot of a creative explosion.
00:22:57
But Neil always felt like he he was
00:22:59
there somehow. It's like a a child up
00:23:02
there in a way in the purest form.
00:23:05
>> Well, the way you just explained it, I I
00:23:08
think of some of the stuff we watch you
00:23:11
guys do. you know, there's still that
00:23:14
playful and improvisational,
00:23:18
you know, that's you could say it's from
00:23:21
doing a lot of reps,
00:23:24
>> but it's also I think it comes from
00:23:28
uh you know the being
00:23:31
still having maintained
00:23:34
that freedom and flexibility.
00:23:36
>> Sure. of, you know, because then that's
00:23:40
what becomes,
00:23:42
you know, so funny and and so spot-on or
00:23:46
or so quick.
00:23:49
>> Yeah. You can I think like music and
00:23:52
standup
00:23:53
as as you know, it's probably similar in
00:23:55
the way that I could do a show and in
00:23:58
three nights, same theater, and then
00:24:00
they're all just a hair different and no
00:24:03
one would really notice. But I can tell
00:24:05
this crowd is a little like this. I was
00:24:06
more like this. I kind of adapted to
00:24:08
that. And it's funny how they can be a
00:24:10
little different every night. And maybe
00:24:13
it's not as noticeable to people, but
00:24:15
maybe it is. But I think that's what
00:24:17
music is. It's still the same set. I'm
00:24:19
still doing what I'm doing. Like you're
00:24:20
going to do the same set list, let's
00:24:22
say. But you can tell some nights are a
00:24:24
little different and you're just you're
00:24:26
rolling with something a little harder.
00:24:27
You're getting into something a little
00:24:28
different that you have before. And
00:24:31
that's kind of the fun of it. And it's
00:24:32
not just a rubber stamping. It's it's it
00:24:35
can be it can go almost anywhere.
00:24:38
>> And do you get nervous
00:24:40
>> before you play?
00:24:42
>> Yeah,
00:24:42
>> I still do. Dana doesn't get as nervous,
00:24:45
but
00:24:46
>> Well,
00:24:48
uh when you're dancing for your donuts,
00:24:50
like you're auditioning for Lauren
00:24:52
Michaels and and you're 30 years old,
00:24:54
that's a different kind of nervousness.
00:24:57
But now I do feel responsibility for
00:25:01
to I as comedians, we're supposed to
00:25:04
kill quote unquote. We're supposed to
00:25:06
destroy. We're supposed to levitate the
00:25:09
room. This is
00:25:10
>> slay.
00:25:11
>> And I think that Yeah. I don't know if
00:25:13
you have this, but you if a night's a
00:25:15
little bit off, the voice in the back of
00:25:16
your head is is still giving yourself
00:25:18
notes a little bit while you're singing,
00:25:21
while you're playing,
00:25:22
>> you're doing pretty good. You're doing
00:25:23
pretty good. That's not going well. When
00:25:25
that goes dead quiet,
00:25:27
>> then you're in the zone
00:25:29
>> and nothing matters except expressing
00:25:33
the rhythm of the words that you want to
00:25:34
do in that moment. Or if it's
00:25:36
non-verbal, which is even better.
00:25:38
>> And yeah, you want to get to that
00:25:39
playful state and you don't always get
00:25:41
to it. That's why when it happens, have
00:25:43
you had a moment like that in the studio
00:25:46
or a live recording where you just went
00:25:49
to another place and then you listen
00:25:50
yourself back and you go, man, I was
00:25:52
they call it being in the zone, you
00:25:54
know, just it's fun.
00:25:57
>> Yeah, there was there was a a vocal on
00:26:00
the last uh not the last record, it was
00:26:02
a solo record called Earthling, but um
00:26:05
>> Yes. 2022 Andrew Wyatt, Ringo, Elton
00:26:08
John, and Stevie Wonder.
00:26:09
>> Andrew Yeah. Andrew Wyatt, he records
00:26:13
every album.
00:26:14
>> Chad Smith and
00:26:16
>> Chad.
00:26:17
>> Jesus.
00:26:18
>> But it was funny. I found out later
00:26:20
there was uh one of the vocals, it was
00:26:22
put together of two vocals and one was
00:26:25
at about 5 in the afternoon or evening
00:26:30
and then the other one was at 10. Once
00:26:32
we got it put together.
00:26:34
>> Mhm. You can't tell the difference,
00:26:37
but the one at 10, I was pretty
00:26:40
hammered,
00:26:41
you know, listen.
00:26:44
>> Well, yeah, we get that.
00:26:47
>> And um it was kind of amazing to and and
00:26:50
I was
00:26:52
in a different form of being in the
00:26:54
zone, you know, I was just feeling it
00:26:57
and and by that time the words and the
00:26:59
phrasing had come together. Um, but I
00:27:02
was just uh so I remember that or I
00:27:07
remember not remembering that.
00:27:10
>> Yeah, that's good.
00:27:11
>> And then hearing it back, I thought,
00:27:13
wow, that's that's pretty cool. And
00:27:15
didn't realize that the vocal that they
00:27:19
had been five hours apart, but they they
00:27:21
actually sounded
00:27:22
>> Did you tell the difference in listening
00:27:24
to it?
00:27:24
>> No, I couldn't. I I I was surprised to
00:27:27
hear
00:27:29
>> that it was the
00:27:30
>> second, you know, listening to your
00:27:31
speaking voice. It's kind of uh your
00:27:35
singing voice. I I wonder when the first
00:27:37
time you went, "Holy [ __ ] I can sing
00:27:39
like because it it is a voice. You're
00:27:42
one of the voices."
00:27:43
>> Yeah. Yeah.
00:27:44
>> You know, it must happen.
00:27:45
>> It hasn't happened yet.
00:27:47
>> That's also good. We all think
00:27:49
everything is
00:27:50
>> still blossoming.
00:27:51
>> This is This is very nice to hear.
00:27:54
I'll take that.
00:27:55
>> I have some more.
00:27:56
>> You're the voice. I mean, you could just
00:27:58
go on a Google and Google your name. Who
00:28:01
are the
00:28:01
>> I was I was guessing top rock voices and
00:28:05
I scribbled some down, but I don't know
00:28:08
if you'll agree, but I was like, mine
00:28:10
are right, so you guys can agree or not.
00:28:12
>> I hope Betty's on the list.
00:28:14
>> I mean, I don't know. We'll see.
00:28:16
>> Start with
00:28:17
>> Tiny Tim.
00:28:19
>> We're going back.
00:28:20
>> And then I got a shot. If you start with
00:28:22
Tiny Tim, I think I might
00:28:24
>> Tiny Tim got mentioned on the podcast.
00:28:27
That is a first.
00:28:28
>> Tiny Tim was the
00:28:30
>> very happy
00:28:30
>> carrot top of his.
00:28:31
>> Yeah.
00:28:32
>> No, I uh I you know what one I know the
00:28:35
ones that get mentioned a lot. I mean
00:28:36
Axel's got a very unique voice. Uh
00:28:38
Robert Plant of course the basics. But
00:28:42
>> Bon Scott, would you give it up for Bon
00:28:44
Scott?
00:28:44
>> Oh yeah, absolutely.
00:28:46
>> Sickening Dana. I love Bon Scott and it
00:28:48
was so hard to replace. AC/DC still
00:28:51
crushed it after, but god dang.
00:28:52
>> Mhm.
00:28:53
>> Bon Scott was so interesting. There's
00:28:55
Bowie, Steve Perry, curveball, but Steve
00:28:58
Perry was the notes that that guy hit.
00:29:01
Yeah.
00:29:03
>> Right.
00:29:03
>> Pretty impressive,
00:29:05
>> Eddie. You agree?
00:29:06
>> Um, even I'm not saying even uh Sting
00:29:10
has a very unique voice.
00:29:11
>> Oh, yeah. Yeah. No, Sting's voice is
00:29:15
>> Sting's voice can cut through the
00:29:16
clouds. Um,
00:29:19
and you know, he he does some early
00:29:22
stuff. Sometimes friends will come over
00:29:23
and I'll I'll play him stuff they have
00:29:25
never heard. Uh, he worked with this
00:29:27
German guy called Eberhard Shoner
00:29:30
>> and he just does some insane stuff with
00:29:33
his it at one point he basically sings
00:29:36
the phone book, meaning an article in a
00:29:38
San Francisco paper or something.
00:29:40
>> Yeah.
00:29:40
>> And what he does with it is
00:29:43
>> so extraordinary. when you look at
00:29:45
>> um not to mention he's incredible bass
00:29:47
player.
00:29:48
>> Yeah, because he's always in the pocket.
00:29:50
He's not outside of it. He's not he's
00:29:52
just it's he's simple for himself. He
00:29:54
says that. But I when I listen to
00:29:58
synchronicity and the police and I hear
00:30:00
Stuart Copelan and I'm going they're
00:30:02
doing reggae, rock, jazz.
00:30:04
>> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. and just Copelan, you
00:30:07
know, and of course Sting where
00:30:09
>> very casual drummer that was I think he
00:30:11
was there then very I I think I was a
00:30:13
little starruck because I was like oh
00:30:15
[ __ ] is that Stuart Copelan I never see
00:30:17
>> wasn't Ringo and Steuart Copeland there
00:30:19
you told me and I was so jealous at one
00:30:21
of the EV events
00:30:23
>> actually that was my that was uh my
00:30:25
birthday was your birthday
00:30:27
>> last year
00:30:27
>> were they your birthday gift
00:30:31
I'm gonna hang out with Ringo it was
00:30:32
quite peppered with musicians that were
00:30:35
okay. Lots of
00:30:36
>> head turners. But by the way, back to EB
00:30:38
events. I think you know a lot of great
00:30:41
people play these uh events for uh EB,
00:30:44
which you work tirelessly with and it's
00:30:47
such a great event and it and it's such
00:30:49
an important uh
00:30:52
uh you know uh thing to to help and and
00:30:55
and we meet the kids and um they always
00:30:59
the performances are great. The kids are
00:31:00
always so friendly and sweet. they're
00:31:02
having the toughest time out there. Um,
00:31:05
which we can talk about. Um, but some of
00:31:08
those nights I even think, um, I think I
00:31:10
did it once. I think Dana might have
00:31:12
done it. Zack Alfanakis. Uh, always
00:31:15
good. There's always like comedy and
00:31:16
music. I think Chris Cornell maybe one
00:31:18
night uh, in the old days. So, we are
00:31:21
very blessed with those parties, but
00:31:24
they're very, very actually important
00:31:27
events, which ties into this documentary
00:31:29
about EB that Dana and I are watching.
00:31:31
It's very very strong stuff and it's
00:31:34
very pulls at the heartstrings. I will
00:31:36
say that.
00:31:39
>> Well, we're really
00:31:41
feeling fortunate that it was that it's
00:31:44
now out there um on Netflix. I think you
00:31:47
mentioned uh
00:31:48
>> Netflix matter of time. That's all you
00:31:50
have to
00:31:52
>> matter of time.
00:31:54
Yeah, it will serve as a uh education on
00:32:01
you know anybody who asks uh has
00:32:03
curiosity, anybody who asks us about you
00:32:06
know what is epidermalis blossa, what is
00:32:09
this EB um
00:32:12
>> this can forever serve as the answer to
00:32:14
all the questions and you really get to
00:32:18
know not only the kids and their
00:32:21
families and the challenges, but you you
00:32:26
get to meet these,
00:32:29
you know, uh, incredible people working
00:32:34
on this whole community's behalf,
00:32:36
meaning the researchers and the genetic
00:32:38
scientists, genetic researchers.
00:32:40
>> Um,
00:32:43
you know, they they say this thing about
00:32:45
heroes, something like, you know, heroes
00:32:46
aren't made. It's more
00:32:49
uh people faced with um you know
00:32:53
incredible
00:32:55
circumstances or or
00:32:58
>> facing
00:32:59
difficult consequence
00:33:02
um and that is where these heroes are
00:33:06
born and this this film is it's it's
00:33:09
really full of them um because you see
00:33:13
how heroic and courageous these kids
00:33:15
are.
00:33:16
>> Oh my god. You see what the families go
00:33:19
through, what the siblings go through,
00:33:22
>> and and you also see that these,
00:33:28
you know, genetic researchers
00:33:30
going at it day after day with the
00:33:33
funding that's provided to them through
00:33:35
these fundraisers.
00:33:38
It is.
00:33:41
It's such a
00:33:44
I'm so glad you get to know these people
00:33:46
on a personal level because you see it's
00:33:48
not just uh you know people in lab
00:33:50
coats, you know, punching the clock.
00:33:54
This is this is their life's work.
00:33:57
They're they're dreaming about it.
00:33:59
They're coming to work each day thinking
00:34:01
about the new approach. Um trial and
00:34:05
error. They feel so close. you know,
00:34:08
it's a a monogenic condition, meaning
00:34:11
it's just one mutated gene
00:34:14
>> uh in the DNA. They've isolated that
00:34:17
gene. So, now they're just trying to,
00:34:20
you know, be able to fix that. And you
00:34:25
know, the the hope on the horizon is not
00:34:29
only would it that process when they
00:34:32
figured out how to unlock this key,
00:34:35
it would not only, you know, we're on
00:34:37
the forefront,
00:34:39
you know, we're like on the runway
00:34:42
uh at this time of um genetic research,
00:34:46
uh EB in particular. But once that lifts
00:34:49
off, it'll help thousands and thousands
00:34:52
of other uh genetic skin disorders.
00:34:55
>> Sure. Yeah. Yeah. Be
00:34:57
>> because s the half the the kids, first
00:34:59
of all, when I see them, I'd see a lot
00:35:00
of the same ones every year at the event
00:35:02
and um and always upbeat, always cool
00:35:06
kids, always fun, um up for having a
00:35:10
good time. I know they don't get to do
00:35:11
that much fun stuff. Just even some of
00:35:13
the scientists and doctors are saying
00:35:15
when they get stuck they go we have
00:35:18
these breakthroughs then and then when
00:35:19
it's stuck you're just really helping
00:35:22
with the pain. It's not really helping
00:35:25
them. You're just like they have to take
00:35:26
bandages off put them back. It's just
00:35:28
pain and it's just so hard to be a
00:35:29
parent to watch that and I can't
00:35:32
imagine. So you're doing a good thing
00:35:34
and and everyone over there obviously
00:35:36
Jill your wife is working hard and just
00:35:39
to be a part of it and we get to go just
00:35:42
once a year and help or different little
00:35:44
events you have but man I'm telling you
00:35:46
they deserve a break that's for sure.
00:35:49
>> Well and this film is about uh it was
00:35:51
two years ago we um we really wanted to
00:35:55
get the whole community together uh in
00:35:58
Seattle. Uh it was a whole uh day full
00:36:01
of uh symposiums. It was basically an EB
00:36:04
summit with doctors, donors, families.
00:36:09
Um and then the music was just supposed
00:36:12
to be kind of a reason to get together
00:36:14
around the campfire at the end of the
00:36:16
night.
00:36:18
>> And I will say it was it was um it was
00:36:23
difficult.
00:36:25
It just the the songs had more weight
00:36:30
looking out in the crowd and seeing my
00:36:33
friends, the doctors, seeing my friends,
00:36:36
the families and the kids.
00:36:38
>> Um,
00:36:40
it was it was it became very emotional
00:36:44
and they they filmed it really not
00:36:46
thinking, you know, we were just kind of
00:36:48
trying to document it. Mhm.
00:36:50
>> Um but then the more we saw
00:36:53
and then this great filmmaker Matt
00:36:56
Finland who we were working with another
00:36:58
great Canadian
00:37:00
uh he was able to and I can't think of
00:37:04
anybody else who could have done this
00:37:07
really because he had been working with
00:37:10
EB stuff and with us for probably about
00:37:13
5 years at that point but at that point
00:37:16
knowing the sensibilities the families
00:37:18
knowing them personally. And he was able
00:37:20
to kind of ask them to be part of their
00:37:25
lives and and film some things that were
00:37:29
uncomfortable and film
00:37:32
some instances that would take courage
00:37:37
to allow it to be filmed and and it's
00:37:42
really a great test.
00:37:44
>> It's a wakeup call for people to watch
00:37:46
it, you know. So, I think it's necessary
00:37:48
sometimes to say this is really what's
00:37:51
going on here.
00:37:53
>> Yeah. Because I don't, you know, even uh
00:37:55
a few of the folks that came to have
00:37:58
come to the events over the years, the
00:38:00
ones at uh Gervit's house in California,
00:38:04
they
00:38:06
>> they didn't really understand it until
00:38:09
the film. So that kind of reminds you
00:38:13
that there's uh there was a lot of
00:38:17
education that was um that seems to be
00:38:21
welcome now that people are seeing it.
00:38:23
We're we're getting so much good
00:38:24
feedback already.
00:38:27
>> For sure. It's very interesting that
00:38:29
it's one one gene, you know, because I'm
00:38:31
sort of casually know a cardiac
00:38:34
cardiologist PK Shaw at Cedar Sinai and
00:38:37
he's in their research labs and a lot of
00:38:40
times it's like 20 different genes, 30
00:38:42
different genes, but just one gene.
00:38:46
>> Um, I'm very hopeful. I'm hoping that AI
00:38:49
for whatever monstrosity it may bring to
00:38:52
us is also going to go,
00:38:54
>> you know, make these
00:38:56
>> good Yeah.
00:38:56
>> leap forward. And I'm hoping that within
00:38:59
five or 10 years, cancer is pretty much
00:39:02
>> fixed. And I pray that this one is too.
00:39:06
>> Yeah.
00:39:06
>> You know, and many others, scaraderma,
00:39:08
which is an autoimmune disease
00:39:11
primarily, but it reminds me of that
00:39:13
because David and I I went to a few of
00:39:16
those with Bob Saget. Saget. Yeah.
00:39:18
>> And when you see a child, pretty little
00:39:21
girl in a wheelchair and then she has a
00:39:24
pink bow in her hair and you just it's
00:39:26
very it's so I mean I had hard both Bob
00:39:30
Seagan and I God rest his soul. We were
00:39:32
just done after that. We we had to go
00:39:35
out and do comedy but it was just like
00:39:37
>> Yeah.
00:39:37
>> So the the documentary I'm sure is just
00:39:40
completely heart-wrenching. But you
00:39:42
can't ever bang the drum hard enough for
00:39:44
the amount of suffering that happens ad
00:39:46
hoc around the world. You know, these
00:39:48
parents just this just happened. And so
00:39:52
I couldn't respect you more for taking
00:39:54
this on, not for a day or a week.
00:39:57
>> I think it's been 15 years of this
00:40:00
foundation. And so kudos to you. Thank
00:40:03
you.
00:40:05
>> Well, thank it's a good team. It's a
00:40:07
great board. uh we do something called
00:40:09
venture philanthropy
00:40:11
um which is a newer model. So if we fund
00:40:14
research and something happens because
00:40:16
of the research positive
00:40:19
um and for example you talked about pain
00:40:22
earlier David um
00:40:25
you know we've been able to come out
00:40:27
with now three
00:40:30
um FDA approved treatments not cures but
00:40:34
just treatments for the pain for the
00:40:36
wounds.
00:40:37
>> Yeah. Great.
00:40:38
>> Um, it's gene therapy which is a a newer
00:40:42
thing and
00:40:45
you know what you said we might be in
00:40:47
that that perfect you know there is a
00:40:50
wave of technology even going back five
00:40:54
seven years you know computing power
00:40:57
really helped you know uh map the human
00:41:00
genome etc. So, you know, it being a
00:41:04
single single mutation,
00:41:08
um, you know, we're we're lucky in that
00:41:11
way because think of all the variables
00:41:13
with the the 20
00:41:15
>> as you mentioned. Yeah.
00:41:16
>> Um, but this hopefully would be
00:41:20
>> um well, it is the start to
00:41:24
>> um cracking these codes.
00:41:27
>> Yeah. It's it's a hopeful time in
00:41:28
medicine for sure.
00:41:30
>> Yeah.
00:41:30
>> It's we're in a with all this new stuff
00:41:32
>> shift.
00:41:35
>> Well, those those parties at Gervitzes,
00:41:37
the fundraisers are great. Everyone has
00:41:38
a good time and in spite of what's going
00:41:40
on, but we hope the kids come and get a
00:41:43
breather. I know there's a lot of
00:41:44
celebrities. We don't have to name them
00:41:46
all, but there's a lot of people that
00:41:47
really show up and help out and and uh I
00:41:51
think it's fun for everybody.
00:41:52
>> So, people watch the documentary.
00:41:54
Everyone documentary
00:41:57
>> watch the documentary and they'll know
00:41:58
if they want to make a donation. Is it
00:42:01
there or we can also put it in our intro
00:42:03
or talk about it now?
00:42:05
>> You know.
00:42:06
>> Yeah. I'm not sure if the information I
00:42:08
think it's more if you look it up. It's
00:42:09
just it stands as a film on its own. And
00:42:12
um EBRP,
00:42:14
>> excuse me,
00:42:16
>> EBRP
00:42:18
is the name of the organization. And
00:42:20
like I said, we have
00:42:21
>> we've we've been able to streamline the
00:42:23
book, you know, all the
00:42:26
all the things that that u you want in
00:42:29
an organization, including I I will say
00:42:32
these angel donors that come in and just
00:42:35
take care of all the administrative
00:42:36
costs for every year,
00:42:40
>> which means all of these funds that are
00:42:42
raised go direct to research. Um, you
00:42:45
know, we're we have so many reasons to
00:42:47
be proud of this and and now to be able
00:42:50
to be proud of the film. Um,
00:42:54
uh, it's it it feels,
00:42:57
you know, we're making more progress
00:42:59
than getting setbacks. So, we're in a
00:43:02
good space.
00:43:03
>> Nice.
00:43:04
>> And and really being here with you guys
00:43:06
and talking about it, it means a lot to
00:43:08
us. So, on behalf of everybody, we thank
00:43:10
you.
00:43:10
>> For sure. For sure. Glad glad to help.
00:43:13
>> EB research partnership or EB RV if that
00:43:16
helps.
00:43:18
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00:43:55
>> I have another question before I get rid
00:43:56
of you, is um uh Song Blue. Look who's
00:44:01
in it.
00:44:03
Not really Eddie Veter, but uh better
00:44:07
Eddie.
00:44:07
>> Incredible simulation.
00:44:08
>> Yeah.
00:44:10
>> Did you see it yet, Eddie?
00:44:12
>> That was a surprise. Well, they sent me
00:44:14
the script.
00:44:15
>> That was surprise.
00:44:16
>> Yeah, that is. Yeah.
00:44:18
>> But it was really They were really sweet
00:44:20
people to know and a story worth
00:44:23
telling. And you know, you talk about
00:44:27
going from playing drums on your mom's
00:44:31
cookbook to
00:44:33
>> uh you know, this guy
00:44:36
um uh he uh lightning.
00:44:41
>> He
00:44:43
he had a dream and he he wasn't going to
00:44:46
let it go. And it was again very
00:44:53
you know what I what I will say is that
00:44:55
to think that years after he passed you
00:44:58
know his spirit has to be out there
00:45:01
somewhere knowing and just
00:45:06
inflated
00:45:07
with pride knowing that not just they
00:45:10
made a film but [ __ ] Hugh Jackman
00:45:14
plays him. That's
00:45:15
>> Yeah. Yeah.
00:45:16
>> Pretty amazing. And the
00:45:17
>> Couldn't imagine. Couldn't imagine.
00:45:19
Yeah, for sure.
00:45:20
>> And Kate Hudson's amazing as um as
00:45:23
Claire. She's she's really amazing.
00:45:24
>> Yeah. I'm in the middle of it. I didn't
00:45:25
even know it was real. I'm in the middle
00:45:26
of it just thinking it's I like Neil
00:45:28
Diamond. I sang one of his songs in one
00:45:30
of my movies. I I went and saw him in
00:45:32
concert and I was like, "Oh, this sounds
00:45:34
like it's up my alley." Just on the
00:45:35
peripher
00:45:38
calling him, but I didn't know that was
00:45:40
real either. So I I found out later it
00:45:43
was real. you did call.
00:45:46
>> Yeah, they they they were uh I knew this
00:45:49
other
00:45:50
>> someone you heard about. You just heard
00:45:52
that they were out there and it was kind
00:45:53
of funny and they were doing some and
00:45:56
you're like, let's bring them out.
00:45:57
>> Well, Milwaukee had this interesting
00:46:00
u little scene of of odd acts. Uh,
00:46:05
another one was called The Frogs, which
00:46:08
was a a twoman uh, two brothers,
00:46:12
um, that would play songs like Adam and
00:46:16
Steve.
00:46:17
Um,
00:46:20
you know, drink, dress up in pink sailor
00:46:22
suits. It was a thing. But Nirvana loved
00:46:26
them. Uh, this friend of ours, Bob
00:46:28
Whitaker, Mudhoney, we loved them. Um,
00:46:31
and I think they turned us on to
00:46:35
Lightning and Thunder.
00:46:36
>> Lightning.
00:46:37
>> And you just wanted them to, you know,
00:46:41
another guy, Wesley Willis Willis out of
00:46:43
Chicago. You know, you had an
00:46:45
opportunity cuz the light was shining on
00:46:48
you to to share that light.
00:46:50
>> Yeah.
00:46:50
>> With some very cool
00:46:52
>> folks that you thought deserved it. Um,
00:46:56
and you know, it wasn't always easy. Uh
00:47:01
because then they might think like, "Oh,
00:47:04
you know, here we go." And it's not,
00:47:07
>> you know,
00:47:10
it's hard. You you uh
00:47:14
you know, you hope they can handle it,
00:47:17
>> right? It's so nutty. I mean, you called
00:47:19
them. That's a big deal. Then Hugh
00:47:20
Jackman plays him down the line, but you
00:47:22
just never know. It's such an odd
00:47:24
business and they're in front of a big
00:47:26
crowd for you guys. And you did he call
00:47:28
you to did he ask you to sing with him?
00:47:30
Is that what it was? And that was real
00:47:32
>> uh backstage. Yeah, I think he asked. Um
00:47:36
and
00:47:36
>> that's how it's depicted. Something like
00:47:37
that. And then you go out there and sing
00:47:39
with him, which is what a blast.
00:47:42
>> Yeah. Yeah, they were they were very
00:47:44
sweet and it was a big crowd for them.
00:47:46
And um and that was that was nice. Their
00:47:51
their their cup was filled for a little
00:47:53
bit there. Um and then that that movie
00:47:55
is filled with uh you know there's some
00:48:00
combustion you know accidents happen in
00:48:02
their lives and and uh they have to deal
00:48:04
with that and
00:48:06
>> it's a real story.
00:48:08
>> Yeah. Very interesting.
00:48:10
>> Dana you don't know
00:48:11
>> we were gonna we were gonna
00:48:13
>> Yeah. For a moment
00:48:14
>> I was excited for SNL.
00:48:16
>> I couldn't even believe you were even
00:48:18
possibly going to do that with me. I was
00:48:21
>> Eddie Veter.
00:48:22
>> I want to see it. chopping broccoli and
00:48:25
I was trying to think of how to do it
00:48:27
you know because it's
00:48:30
at you know there w it wasn't it wasn't
00:48:33
within a sketch I used to do it in my
00:48:35
standup act just solo with a little
00:48:37
piano if there was one available but
00:48:40
yeah I guess you were maybe I was going
00:48:42
to start and then you were going to come
00:48:43
out and she'd chop and then kind of wail
00:48:46
she chop with your pipes chopping
00:48:48
broccoli man
00:48:49
>> hysterical
00:48:50
>> yeah we we'll get to it
00:48:52
>> maybe one
00:48:53
early.
00:48:54
>> Yeah.
00:48:55
>> You know, but yeah, that would have been
00:48:56
a blast. Well, I I can't sing. I mean,
00:48:58
I'm a comedian. I can fake sing,
00:49:01
>> you know.
00:49:02
>> No, you could sing.
00:49:03
>> Um,
00:49:04
>> I think you can sing. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
00:49:07
>> No, I can sing a little like Neil
00:49:09
because just because for whatever
00:49:12
reason, but a lot of people can. But,
00:49:14
um, but I can't. When you see a real
00:49:17
singer, you know,
00:49:19
>> it's like a real drummer. I I fake it at
00:49:22
a lot of things, but when you see a real
00:49:23
talent in in music, kind of like, okay,
00:49:26
that was not my calling. But but thank
00:49:29
you. But we would have rocked it and I
00:49:31
would have blown you away. But my point
00:49:32
is this, Eddie.
00:49:39
>> Well, the thing is, I agreed to to work
00:49:42
with you.
00:49:43
>> Mhm.
00:49:44
>> And then next thing you know, they had
00:49:45
me dressed up as a pirate.
00:49:47
>> Oh, that's right. Were you in the New
00:49:49
York? No. Were you in the Broadway show?
00:49:51
>> You were on the Friday night show. Uh,
00:49:53
was it at Radio City Music Hall or where
00:49:55
was it? I went to that.
00:49:57
>> Yeah.
00:49:57
>> Yeah, it was Radio City.
00:49:58
>> You were in the pirate sketch.
00:50:01
>> Uh, well, they had a few a few band Lady
00:50:04
Gaga and
00:50:05
>> Yeah, people in there. I remember that.
00:50:09
>> Yeah,
00:50:10
>> Lady Gaga.
00:50:11
>> I was at that show. It was [ __ ]
00:50:13
great. That one they should have aired.
00:50:15
I guess they probably couldn't because
00:50:16
all the music, but it was cool as [ __ ]
00:50:20
>> That was good. And we were going to do
00:50:21
Tom Petty at one of the shows. Uh
00:50:24
>> Oh, we were
00:50:25
>> Oh, maybe Bill show.
00:50:27
>> Yeah.
00:50:28
>> No, at your at your birthday.
00:50:31
I was I said or Bill Maher ruined it
00:50:34
because he said, "Hey, are you going to
00:50:37
stick around?" I said, "Yeah, I think
00:50:39
we're all going to sing."
00:50:41
>> And then and then he said, "And Adam
00:50:45
And he goes, "No, Eddie's not going to
00:50:47
sing." He said, "You shouldn't stick
00:50:50
around because he's not going to sing.
00:50:52
We're wrapping up." Cuz so the cake came
00:50:54
up. And then he goes, "Everyone's taking
00:50:57
off. Why is he sabotaging me? We were
00:51:00
going to sing Tom Petty." And so I left.
00:51:02
And then honestly, an hour later, Adam
00:51:04
called and said, "Hey, where are you?
00:51:05
You're up." And I go, "I thought
00:51:07
everyone left." And then who got to
00:51:10
steal my Tom Petty song with you? Was it
00:51:13
Adam? Uh, you know, I think because you
00:51:15
weren't there, we just didn't do it.
00:51:17
>> Oh, good. You know what? It's not the
00:51:18
same.
00:51:19
>> Yeah.
00:51:19
>> Adam can sing, though. Adam's good.
00:51:22
>> Eddie can play guitar.
00:51:24
>> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
00:51:25
>> He's
00:51:28
life is all green lights. My god.
00:51:31
>> And he can write. Yeah. Yeah.
00:51:33
>> He can write.
00:51:34
>> I know.
00:51:34
>> But no, he can really play.
00:51:37
>> Yeah. That's a fun thing. We all I think
00:51:38
we all I think we were in Seattle doing
00:51:40
a gig. Was Norm there when you came out
00:51:42
to see Sandler's tour in Seattle? Do you
00:51:45
remember that? I think
00:51:46
>> Norm was there. Tony Hawk,
00:51:47
>> there's been a couple, but Norm Yeah,
00:51:49
>> Eddie came out and did some Who song and
00:51:51
then we're like, "Okay, here's a real
00:51:53
singer. Here we go."
00:51:54
>> Oh, I forgot about that.
00:51:56
>> We did Can't Explain, I think.
00:51:57
>> Oh, yeah. I forgot about that.
00:51:59
>> Maybe. Hard to cover.
00:52:00
>> I think so. I
00:52:01
>> think that's where I snake that hat.
00:52:03
>> I think it is. Where is it? We could be
00:52:06
twinning right now.
00:52:06
>> It's so similar to that. It's the exact
00:52:08
same, but mine doesn't have the writing.
00:52:10
M
00:52:12
>> yeah, yours looks a little newer. You
00:52:14
gave me the cheap one, but uh anyway,
00:52:17
Dana, you'll have to you'll have to come
00:52:18
out with me and Eddie one day. It's It's
00:52:21
complicated.
00:52:21
>> I'd like to be a fly on the wall and
00:52:23
that
00:52:26
>> or just listen to music. I' I'd love to
00:52:28
listen to the Beatles with with Dana.
00:52:30
>> Oh, are you kidding? I that would be a
00:52:32
dream. I'm so uh I'm not alone in this,
00:52:35
but I'm equally as possessed as Conan
00:52:38
O'Brien or JJ Abrams or my brothers. Um
00:52:44
>> how do you how can you do it? How can
00:52:47
you be around Paul? It's just too crazy.
00:52:49
>> I I just think that what happened in
00:52:52
that Renaissance decade and I I love
00:52:54
their early stuff because they people
00:52:56
say, "Well, later on they got better." I
00:52:58
go, "No, no, no. for they were the best
00:53:00
twominute pop band in history. Then then
00:53:03
those guys extrapolated into Strawberry
00:53:06
Fields and Penny Lane as a a a double A
00:53:11
side single. So I I can't ever wrap my
00:53:13
mind around. Don't even get me started
00:53:14
on the Beatles, but but crazy.
00:53:17
>> I I just you know I
00:53:20
>> Did you Did you um just by random
00:53:23
chance, did you hear the Ringo was nice
00:53:26
enough to come play? We were talking
00:53:28
about that solo record a minute ago.
00:53:31
>> Earthlings and Ringo came. We were
00:53:33
thinking, well, this really needs like a
00:53:34
Ringo type thing. And then Andrew Watt,
00:53:38
next thing you know, had him
00:53:40
>> on the phone. We're going over to his
00:53:42
house to have him play it. And um it was
00:53:46
>> it was it was so crazy because it
00:53:50
>> literally right before our eyes and he's
00:53:52
such a young presence and energy anyway.
00:53:55
>> But he he looked like he was 25 years
00:53:59
old. You know
00:54:01
>> style certain style and you go oh my god
00:54:03
un unmistakable.
00:54:04
>> Yeah. Got that shoulder roll and
00:54:08
>> he didn't always go for the splash. He
00:54:10
loves the toms and he gets in the pocket
00:54:12
and this I don't even know this is true
00:54:15
but you maybe you tell me. So Andrew
00:54:16
Wyatt was at the SNO party and Jimmy
00:54:19
Fallon's there name drops you know and
00:54:22
they're going we're big Bele fans. We're
00:54:24
talking about Abby Road you know and
00:54:25
they're like oh yeah we're big Beetle
00:54:27
fans Abby Road. I go have you heard
00:54:29
Revolver and I think both of them said
00:54:32
I'm not really familiar you know and
00:54:34
Android too. I go, you guys haven't
00:54:35
heard Revolver and you're Beatle fans.
00:54:38
But anyway, um that that blew my mind.
00:54:41
But um I don't have a favorite. I think
00:54:45
every album is just something magical,
00:54:47
you know.
00:54:48
>> You know, my uncle had a a Memorex tape,
00:54:51
you know, those strange little cassettes
00:54:53
that was like an L and it said
00:54:55
>> it just said Revolver White Album and
00:54:59
that was one of my like first foray into
00:55:02
the heavy stuff. Oh, just to hear it
00:55:05
over and over,
00:55:05
>> over and over. And I thought it was all
00:55:07
one album. All the, you know, white
00:55:09
album and revolver. That's that's some
00:55:13
that's a heavy listen as a 12-year-old.
00:55:16
>> Yeah. Obviously, tomorrow never knows,
00:55:18
but sexy sad happiness is a warm gun.
00:55:22
These are kind of these leny just what
00:55:24
do you what every call them?
00:55:26
>> Bungalow Bill.
00:55:27
>> Bungalow Bill. Yeah. Yeah. Um uh it
00:55:31
never dear prudence. Uh Ellen Rip
00:55:35
>> incredible.
00:55:36
>> Um
00:55:38
and your bird can sing. Two minutes of
00:55:41
brilliance, you know, in harmony.
00:55:43
>> Julia, I think in Yeah, there's another
00:55:47
lenon.
00:55:49
It's uh you know.
00:55:52
Um
00:55:53
>> All right, let's let Eddie go. He seems
00:55:55
like a nice guy.
00:55:56
>> Do you have any last words for us?
00:55:58
>> Yeah. Anything you want to tell us,
00:55:59
Eddie, before you
00:56:00
>> sum up? Here he comes. Pearl.
00:56:02
>> Oh, shoot.
00:56:04
>> Well, you know, I will cuz we I was
00:56:07
thinking about Marty and uh
00:56:12
Martin Short. you
00:56:13
>> and and I know it's um I heard I heard
00:56:18
he was uh magnificent at the service and
00:56:24
>> um but I was going to share with you
00:56:26
this it this funny thing that happened
00:56:29
during co
00:56:31
um but this is how quick we were talking
00:56:34
about how quick people are and but
00:56:37
>> um so present company me excluded but
00:56:40
then Marty Marty calls up about 4 months
00:56:45
into CO just out of the blue and he
00:56:48
says, "Well, hello Eddie. I I was just I
00:56:52
was just checking in to see how my young
00:56:56
friend is doing." And uh he said, "How
00:56:59
are you, young man?" And I said, you
00:57:01
know, I'm actually a little frustrated
00:57:04
with myself because what had happened
00:57:06
when COVID hit and I smoke and drank and
00:57:11
>> and I thought, oh, Jesus Christ, you
00:57:13
know, this is it. It's a lung thing.
00:57:15
It's a respiratory thing. Like, I got to
00:57:18
drop this quick. Like, I'm going to die
00:57:20
from this some crazy [ __ ]
00:57:24
So, totally quit. Feeling pretty good.
00:57:27
And then about four or five months in,
00:57:29
something started happening. I stressed
00:57:31
out. Now I'm having a couple smokes and
00:57:34
now I'm having
00:57:35
>> So Marty said I said, "Well, I'm I'm
00:57:37
frustrated with myself.
00:57:40
I'm smoking again. You know, I'd quit
00:57:42
because of CO." He said, "Oh, what are
00:57:44
you are you smoking? Are you talking pot
00:57:47
or cigarettes?" I said I said,
00:57:49
"Cigarettes."
00:57:50
He said, "Oh, are you still waiting for
00:57:53
more literature on that?
00:58:01
And that and that was the last time I
00:58:03
ever had a cigarette.
00:58:05
>> Really?
00:58:06
>> Yeah. Just like that.
00:58:08
>> Oh, what a great
00:58:09
>> I mean, maybe not really, but it makes
00:58:10
for it makes for a better story.
00:58:12
>> You should never talk to him again
00:58:13
because he ended on such a hit. That's a
00:58:16
great one.
00:58:17
>> Oh, no. He's full of them.
00:58:19
>> That is true. He's full of them.
00:58:22
>> One talk show appearance. He's got about
00:58:23
30 of those. He's he was on my idol
00:58:26
list. Him and Steve Martin in the 70s. I
00:58:28
was influenced and still
00:58:30
>> so in awe.
00:58:31
>> They're still out there doing shows.
00:58:32
>> I know. Between the two of them, you're
00:58:34
like,
00:58:34
>> "Yeah, I got I put them out there." I
00:58:36
go, "Mark, they're a little old. I don't
00:58:38
care. 100 dates a year.
00:58:39
>> Gonna love Eddie Va. Eddie Vice
00:58:43
his money. I'd throw mine away.
00:58:48
>> That's some good Mark Gervich right
00:58:50
there.
00:58:51
>> We went snorkeling. He's my friend.
00:58:54
Who's better than you? Who's better than
00:58:55
you? You're handsome. He sat with me on
00:58:57
a canoe.
00:59:04
>> This is the thanks he gets. This is the
00:59:06
thanks he gets for hosting all these
00:59:08
backyard parties. He He gets
00:59:10
>> I know he get and having all comedians
00:59:12
and we all just make fun of his client.
00:59:14
He wants us to make fun of him.
00:59:16
>> Yeah, it's circle.
00:59:18
>> All right, Eddie. Thanks, buddy.
00:59:19
>> Thank you. It's been a pleasure, an
00:59:21
absolute honor, and hope we run into
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Badges

This episode stands out for the following:

  • 75
    Most heartbreaking
  • 70
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  • 70
    Best performance
  • 65
    Most inspiring

Episode Highlights

  • Eddie Vedder's Documentary
    Eddie Vedder discusses his documentary about EB, a skin condition he's battled for years.
    “He has spent 15 years battling this disease with benefits for research.”
    @ 01m 21s
    February 19, 2026
  • Remembering Katherine O'Hara
    A heartfelt tribute to Katherine O'Hara and her profound impact on those who knew her.
    “She was everything and more that you’d expect or dream of her being.”
    @ 06m 31s
    February 19, 2026
  • The Power of Music
    Music can vibrate your souls and cells, creating a unique experience.
    “It will vibrate your souls, your cells.”
    @ 21m 37s
    February 19, 2026
  • Being in the Zone
    Finding that playful state during performance can lead to magical moments.
    “You're in the zone and nothing matters except expressing the rhythm.”
    @ 25m 27s
    February 19, 2026
  • Documentary on EB
    A documentary sheds light on the challenges faced by kids with epidermolysis bullosa.
    “This can forever serve as the answer to all the questions.”
    @ 32m 14s
    February 19, 2026
  • Documentary Impact
    The documentary inspires viewers to make donations and support the cause.
    “Watch the documentary and they’ll know if they want to make a donation.”
    @ 41m 57s
    February 19, 2026
  • New Season of Scrubs
    The beloved comedy Scrubs returns with original cast and new characters.
    “The Emmy-winning comedy Scrubs is back with hilarious and heartfelt stories.”
    @ 43m 23s
    February 19, 2026
  • Eddie's Transformation
    Eddie shares a humorous yet poignant moment about quitting smoking.
    “Oh, are you still waiting for more literature on that?”
    @ 57m 53s
    February 19, 2026

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Key Moments

  • Eddie Vedder00:55
  • Katherine O'Hara Tribute05:54
  • Seattle Music Scene12:37
  • Grunge Origins20:35
  • Erupting Volcano21:02
  • Documentary Impact32:14
  • Eddie's Smoking Story58:01
  • Podcast Closing59:30

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