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Okay so we've got Joel mcale Joel mcale nice chat with Joel Joel male I did a
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pilot once uh a little while back and Joe mcale was
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in it with Ken Ken Yong who uh are really good friends like best friends I
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I just think for best friends forever um I know we've all we all know Joel we all
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know Ken Joel's a a great standup we see him at The Comedy Store we talk about
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community show Community he did forever he did uh we talk of course I'm ask about chubby Chase because that ties
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into us a little bit and uh yeah good stories guys got good stories um and he
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also likes International Scouts do you know that day Anda because where I get my Land Cruiser done right he buys up a
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lot of Scouts and they're all old ones and very cool ones and he was one of the first he did a show where you um make
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fun of videos oh talk and uh Talk Soup yeah that's great and um what's kind of
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interesting without giving it away I'll talk about he had a little bit of Dyslexia and he was reading teleprompters and the the struggle and
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the challenge of that but that show was huge and went on for years and um he now has a new show
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animal control and it's I think it's just started its third season and it's uh I just read a really nice thing about
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it in the paper so Animal Control uh you know him for sure when you see him and
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we nice chat so let's uh listen up enough about [Music]
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us pretty exciting that beard is rocking man look at his [ __ ] cool hair too I
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hate this guy already at all the transplants guys this can be yours
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literally no it cannot that's too good oh you got to have some donors if you're going to go no that is that is [ __ ]
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triny Lopez early Tom Jones who are your hair donor Charro uh when the uh Russian
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Olympic doping thing hit uh I was able to reap the benefits because they had all this extra extra tranquilizer
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sitting around guys but uh Paro moii he live he's in Sherman Oaks he's a he's a wizard this is god this is my
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great-grandfather that's that's what have been me he's showing a picture of a goddamn a cute ball might as well be
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George castan and you're like well who has the greatest hair and all I think it was what did Rob say Rob blow said
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Richard Gear I think the history of Hollywood I think it's Jeff Bridges if
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yeah I mean can I make my face redder that's
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just the Cheetos wearing off everyone says on on the YouTube comments hey
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Spade rough night I'm like no this this is just it guys they're like gez what a
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disaster northern European you get a little rosacea you get I don't think I'm red Heather am I in real
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life my [ __ ] dad was kind of red but he was such a goddamn drunk yeah but you're still you be at this age like if
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you still if we all went back to our high school reunions just an impromptu High School reunion we'd all be like oh
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we're doing great yeah yeah you're right me and my buddies from high school don't look so [ __ ] tragic so we see by the
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way when I was and back in Arizona sir Joel and um they uh these two old dudes
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walked up to us and I'm like oh look at these broken down [ __ ] and they go hey we were year uh under you guys in
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high school at Saro I'm like shut the [ __ ] up wait we're all around the same
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oh my god well they also were sitting in the Arizona Sun right they were B
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everyone lays out every day yeah we're no sunscreen that's for girly men
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I talked to a guy at an event in the recent past about 20 minutes and had no
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idea who he was he's in show business but he qu quietly quietly put on 50 and
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uh he became I don't know why it's always quiet but it was unrecognizable and then someone told me later and you
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you kids out there can guess who it was but it was not Joel or Ken his best
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friend friend kenong who was it let me guess no that's ter like
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where's who was let's do it save it no I can't because it would be mean to the person I saw a guy that loudly put on I
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think I think Martin Sheen got over it in a second no it was not Martin it was
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it wasn't Ken Jong he's on he was born on OIC that guy's fit he can still high
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jump over six feet yeah no there do you guys know who Nathan fillian is yeah
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very extremely handsome man from Edmonton and he he continues to look
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great but he like when starting around like late 30s 40s he did put on 50
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pounds easily still looked great oh really and then he lost it all I don't I
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don't know how he did it uh but he lost it all and everyone's like you look great and he literally was like if you
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just carry an extra 50 for a decade then and you lose it then you get this new
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check to look great everyone's like hey and I was like oh you can just hang in there for that
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10 years that guy pulls wool even when he's 50 plus over no you come in a
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boozed up alcoholic at the 40th anniversary and then for the 50th you just go clean for a decade yeah and you
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got all the Nate prazi says he just tells people even though he's kind of fat he goes I just tell people I lost
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300 lb and they go holy [ __ ] you look great good nck bratzi is not f but he
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says to that to people so they go oh wow well now this is pretty good for you
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he's like that's I saw de leopard play yes so did we thank you uh this is 10
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they opened for kiss at the fourum and open for I know I felt I was like feel
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like that's the that's the story that's a pick him we got to interview Joe
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Elliott for an hour what a kick in the pants that guy what were you saying no one of them someone was like well death
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Le there on this comeback because one of them had cancer and and and you get up there and
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then you start watching them I was like which one has cancer and it there was like all well three of them were bloated
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and bad hair D they're all they're just like and then the guy with cancer just
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skinny and short just like full of energy they're like he's doing great now
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and I was like oh wow that really shows you I think it's it's sad when there's like a quartet of singers or whatever
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and then they eventually one by one pass away I was in Vegas once and they ladies and gentlemen the platter it was like
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such a bringdown funny I saw I saw that's an old jwood
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Mack when it was down to Stevie Nicks uh two guys from Lo Lobos in a contest and the name is
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B was the beach boy Just Josie Josie
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an that's and some friends I remember in SE this is It's it steephen wolf no original
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members and I thought what what happen what is the point well then it's a uh
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what do you call it tribute band it's that point right it's really just a cover band which is kind of good I saw
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Leed zpp again or one of these you know and the cover bands where I didn't even
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well I didn't think it was really zad Zeppelin but I said okay at least I'll just go hear the lad Zeppelin song so I
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can go to a cover band right and they were like here's one that no one knows I don't even think Robert Plant remembers
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I'm like no no no guys here's the deal I want to know every [ __ ] and
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then they weren't doing say we're not here to do the Zeppelin hits I go okay and I think you don't understand what's going on I paid $3 and what I want $3 at
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the Vaseline room and Reno or something what I think it was a Sharkies that play
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I like a tribute fan that's like we're not playing the we're not playing the hits yeah what is your only job and
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you're not playing to a crowd we're gonna play a new song wow no
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it was a Canyon Club Joel do you know a Canyon Club Valle yes oh God not a not a
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great gig actually I've played Canyon Club so I can't I I played it that's why I'm saying I didn't I saw four in her
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there I I bet it was great it was actually three in her because one guy
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didn't show up my friend the joke so bad you like oh no my friend Boyd saw Rick Springfield there
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and uh he said Rick Springfield walked out and said [ __ ] you I'm 75 and then
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just went right into Jesse's Girl J that's the best opening ever let
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me do a quick Dennis Miller this is 20 seconds per this topic playing a casino
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in San Bernardino and you know in the casinos they're all in the bar for the longest time then they come in so we
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came out like two minutes before we go on it's thousand seats not one person sitting there and Dennis goes Christ
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sakes Carvey did we just turn into three dog night over here sorry I just want
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wanted to share that with Joel because I knew he would CH that you actually taught me uh day years ago you were like
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yeah you ever go to those gigs where you haven't done stand up in a while and then you just go into your act and you
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it's you're barely holding on to the roller coaster as it's going and I was like oh that thank I'm so glad you said
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that someone else has done it the more famous you get the your standup gets shitty for a while like probably when
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you're full-time on community you're doing less less reps less get and then your price is going up and up right yeah
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it's they get a lot of it's a lot of talk about Greatest Hits yeah well you know we know the old
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days Joel where you're not that old but yeah I'm old I'm when Dana was I
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headlining you could still get carded if you do a little agre right there I was out there with some guys that were just
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doing the same 45 not even an hour just the same 45 on the dot then I'd see him a year later same 45 three years later
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that because they just had mailing lists and stuff there was no Tik Tok or YouTube or not that many specials at all
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right there's only a couple do you ever get like well as you said like the bands come out they play all their hits and
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that's what everyone wants to here and I'm like yeah but I don't think Comics can do that I know I do a mixture
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usually because some people go oh you didn't do the one joke of yours I like yeah I am very close to doing a oneman
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show where I do Quick Change church lady hon you kill it I do that like Ed San
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the person goes behind the partition the panel and then comes out as a totally new character in like one second youve
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well you you're you've reached the well you both are reached that Legend status
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so you can bring me in there thank you but you should then like do three characters that everybody knows and then
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throw in a character that you be like and this one was from SNL's 1986 special
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and then just be a character that you've never done before and be like deep cuts
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and it's like this got to read through and that was
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it he's got that animal control thing in the back cor Animal Control shows don't
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get third Seasons anymore [ __ ] this is a [ __ ] hit in 2024 a third season I
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always say well it's we're we've done 30 total episodes which you know in the old days New World old days
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one season yeah so hey divide up the pie however you like that's great let's call
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it you know when we did rules engagement Dan at the end it was always 22 Episodes and and the the way we whed about it was
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because you can always find a way to Grouse in the set is first season of rules engagement we did 22 and we we
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debuted huge and then there was a [ __ ] strike and we came back and we
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never got the momentum our fault I guess those workers only pickups did
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13 and your whole a year is over because you can't do anything you can't book
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anything else you can't get a new show and you just wait and may they go we might bring you back and if we do it'll
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be for a measly 13 we' do less if we could and I'm like God dang the second
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we got to 100 episodes they fired us that day they're like that's all we need by Joel who are you following who's
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what's the show what is this magic who am I following Oh I thought you meant like in my political life uh the proud
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the proud boys uh no yeah you had me I was like they have a great Tik tock
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uh who are you on what night are you on and what time coming up we're on I think we're on we're day uh it's January 2nd
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uh as hangovers are just being um cured a perfect day yeah it's all I think
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that's a Thursday after uh Hell's Kitchen or next level chef with Gordon
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Ramsey who's always raing scull and uh then Dennis liry has a new comedy that
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is on after us I know all about it really yeah they're parent oh what what is his show cuz uh write it down it's uh
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D what's the one it's called nope I'm I'm getting there really great that uh
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not get me I'm telling you going dutch going dutch yes it's about a army base in Europe that is only for
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supplies and uh so they're like the great distributor to all the bases so they have there's no action at all and
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Danny py is in it from Community it says yeah and uh so uh the family is slowly
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coming back so that yeah that's we we're very lucky because Fox is hung in you
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know you hear all these but they hung in there with the show and uh not I'm
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compared to community but like on community but we were always we were always on the bubble and uh and fox like
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they like the show they're like we're hanging in there and now it's slowly built up on Hulu and they've taken their
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time and so they they did the thing that you that old comedies used to do where they would take care of it and nurture it and water
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it and uh so it's gotten better and uh I I it's really enjoyable it's nice they
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do what they say because not all these networks they can tell you it's great until the day they chop your head off and you go oh but that's it's just a Biz
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but I think they add in hulo there's some reason you're doing well you know they they calculate everything together
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some Metric something means it's working AI it's interesting that the not to get
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n but you like how Netflix like friends and the office those are and suits of
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all you know like they're all and same thing with Community we didn't become a hit until after streamers came out and
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they're they were and these shows have a 100 or 150 episodes and uh people see
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them like H comfort food and you were NBC and how many episodes we are NBC we
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were cancelled after our fourth season and then brought back on Yahoo screen
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what's that what's that uh it was a shortlived streaming service that Yahoo
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that's a calculator yeah that it was it went from the biggest calculator app biggest website to yeah to a uh to
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weather and uh to just a little weather app after after but they literally blamed us for the downfall of Yahoo
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screen which I'm like I brought down a streamer and uh uh then that was it
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after six seasons so we did like 130 so you had 130 to sell it kind of I I don't
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know the word cult but it it has legs I mean because I don't think anything kind of like Community it was it was unique
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you know yeah just its Vibe and the way it was written and the people in it so it's kind of cool that it lives on and
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yeah Dan Dan Haron is a freaking uh true genius I think David you probably know
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him I would say I know a little bit and U I know him I did a thing with him for I think National geic where I played JFK
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or something I can't remember it was shot all over at that studio sounds
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awesome yeah was he's he's he's very very smart Joel are these Chevy stories
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we had him on the show is he is it more rumor or is was he a bit of a a pickle
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and how put it this way too I want to think how did you think about Chevy during the show and now how do you think
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about chevie now oh well you know I've never asked answered any questions about
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him so this is uh I like it this is uh well this is SNL related so it's started
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with my theory because I we had we had him on and I kind of figured him out right before we came
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on um and and then it kind of made sense to me that that he has an Impulse to say
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the thing you're not supposed to say even if it goes territory that you cannot even comprehend he's going there
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but he has an Impulse to say to do that so right before he came on our show he was at at David's house um I just sort
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of went with it and he would do all this shock stuff and I just started finding it so funny because I saw what he was
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doing you know if you're not ready but if you don't get defensive it's like a swing and a miss if someone just laughs
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you know we yeah all that's I would agree with everything uh on that plane
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uh and then but you worked with them a lot more than I but like at 6:00 in the morning as we're all stumbling in there
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trying hoping to make our 15-hour day uh he I guess this is a separate thing but
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like he he didn't want to be there for that long like it was those hours and
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those that that work was it was too much for the man he didn't want to be there and so we would have to find a way to
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shoot him out uh and and I'm not Chevy if you're listening or watching I don't
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think you would disagree with any of this and uh and he had he was yeah the
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man had a lot going on all the time and he would he could definitely as like be
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disruptive and uh he he he definitely didn't like it when some people were
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funnier and uh he kind of lose his mind a little bit and then uh you know he was
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fired from the show famously uh and yeah
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like we everyone was like ah feel yeah like he's a he's everything like when he was good it was
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magic and he's so good and he's if you watch those first few seasons he's so
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funny uh but you know the guy the guy was his own self- sabotager all the time
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and uh would be yeah he would all be disruptive and all that stuff so I think
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in doses like you're saying like if he's throwing out he he also has he also
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always had to find if things were going well he would find a way to to slow that
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down right he would he would throw some wrench in and uh and yeah so I yeah I
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mean that the guy you know he's his reputation precedes him and and uh and I
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haven't spoke to him since the show ended but I did play him in a movie and I I guess I called him to tell him that
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uh but uh yeah I'm sure yeah there's that yeah that's weird you played Chevy
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in a movie after Community yeah very strange just someone who does a lot of arms workouts uh so uh yeah it's an it's
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he's always been yeah he was always the focus of attention whenever he was in
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the room all all those uh picadillos or ticks whatever you want to call them
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we've uh worked with people in Show Business where it can be cute and funny
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but then if it's actually part of a job it's a completely different idea something forget Chevy just if anybody
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is actively just being being diffic difficult well if you don't love coming to work that's hard if you get nervous
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at work you're going someone's coming in today and it's going to be tough and you're like these these days are so hard
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anyway and No One Believes it but if you're in it and you know you're up at six and leaving at 8:30 at night you're
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like we have no life just get your single camera a half hour I mean that's a that's a work and we shot those shows
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like they were movies they weren't shot in a documentary style s so none of it was none of it was that the loose it was
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all it was all cinematic and we shot those like like paintball things and all those all those kind of Epic look
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looking things for half hour and you know uh I we knew Chevy had obviously
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dealt with things like that before because he was a gigantic movie star yeah all through the 80s but uh yeah he
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had and then you know there be other times when we'd you know physically push each other around so that also happened
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and uh well well I I I don't know I mean you're I I wouldn't want to try to F
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fight you I I think you're probably that's what I thought don't you don't want one of the strongest guys in
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Hollywood don't don't yeah it was all it all when we look back at it I'm like
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what that was just Mayhem as we were trying to you know get this [ __ ] made just do a cute show yeah and uh and then
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then I have that thing of like people like oh there's that thing because during the time it was pre it was it was
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during the times when you didn't say anything where it was like just keep doing what you're doing because every
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because it's working and we didn't want to rock the boat and sure so that so we
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kind of I remember multiple people above us going yeah and he's all ours and uh
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you know the show was working so I yeah it was it was uh it was you don't want them
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to say let's get rid we feel the stress is coming over there like I was like I don't know what I don't know if I talk
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to him again I'm sure he' be like [ __ ] you uh so I'm like all right but he'd probably say that anyway even if he was
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in love he might surprise you I I don't know but yeah that's uh we've all I've had experiences like that Mickey Rooney
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but anyway it doesn't really matter Mickey Rooney but uh God Rest his soul but yeah he well putting it in in in in
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the Mickey Rooney sort of analogy I love any podcast that mentions Mickey go
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ahead he's so happy right now that his name got Mickey Rooney number one star in the
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world right legitimately Chevy Time Magazine funniest man in America and
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then movie after movie after movie Tall greatl looking Goldie Hans said when I saw him I was like this is a formidable
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person he comes in and at some point he's got a feel like I'm on a sitcom or
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I'm on whatever and it just and everyone's getting laughs around them and usually they would write that
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out you know they would just be like I'm the guy that scores and here's the movie around me everyone can be okay and so
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there's something to that I remember George seagull I would think that with George seagull when I was on just shoot
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me because he's so great and one time he goes you little [ __ ] I used to work with
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elizabth Taylor I go I know dude this is no he was huge we would laugh about it because and he would yell to the
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audience he'd point to me and go I used to work with Elizabeth Taylor now I work with this [ __ ] [ __ ] but we we had
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a great time but don't you think that like you he happy about it he was happy
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right is that they didn't realize that when everybody's funny that makes everything funny and that makes the
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whole thing better and rarely like on a sh I don't know I'm
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trying to think of some I don't know some example of some super funny show Eight is Enough let's say no um where
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they go oh everyone was funny on that show except for that one guy he like no no no the whole because everyone was
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need a straight man for this man everyone's valuable and George said you know we had all done just shoot me
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wasn't a magnanimous hit but it stayed on for seven years and we would all I think what happened we all had had
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downtime where it wasn't working for a little bit so we all were like Hey we're all lucky to be here so it was a lot
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less fighting I can't remember any because we thought we know what it's like when it
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doesn't work it's not all given you know if you're on friends and it's your first show you get and you're a superstar a
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worldwide star you can't even imagine what if I did a show that didn't work you can't imagine what it's like to just
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get Pilots canceled so when you've had ups and downs and something works you go oh we are lucky this let's do not mess
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this up yeah that's probably but sounds like there was nobody on just shoot me
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that was disruptive right I'm saying is that you had that and so you don't want to mess the show up so you're probably
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not telling everybody like hey we got to get rid of this what can we do because they might say yeah this whole show is a
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problem let's just get rid of it and you're like no I like it I want to be here do you think that when Chevy came
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through with Community like how how much has changed now with live streaming shows because you'll just see fullblown
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movie stars except Tom Cruz who's one of my favorites doing a live streaming series
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and there is no it's there's no it's completely accepted it's not like oh
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what happened to his movie career no watch yeah yeah I mean that's also why
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like when Snoop and Jamie Fox and Dwayne Johnson and Ellen all did game shows and
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that blew away the oh you don't have you there's not a tight you know like you're in that lane now it just all the lanes
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blurred and then and then all then the streamers had all the money and like
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squid games if or squid game if like no one car they're like oh it's just great
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we and I was like if you told an executive 5 years ago that a foreign
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language Murder Game Show drama and Kevin Cosner would be the biggest things
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on TV they'd be like Kevin Cosner and a western I don't think so that's not going to be a hit that westerns are dead
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it's all science fiction oh and people are not going to read subtitles forget it and then the biggest things on the
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planet that's part of the fun is that no one knows can't figure out show is that's part of the it's part of the
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crazy Lottery like you go I could make it overnight you just don't know it could be in a show that blows up there's
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five billion bits of digital information to watch right now globally between YouTube
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and then all the rest so it's five billion so I'm just saying it's different that's my point my thesis is that showus has changed you can do
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commercials you got to you can talk about your brand and being in the marketplace with your brand um everyone
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could do commercials everyone can do anything everyone can do Mass huge hit who would have thought know
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which you've been on it yes well yeah Ken caught you know once again light they those guys caught lightning in a
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bottle and if you which I when I was first on that show I was like I don't really understand what the rules are are
00:28:12
we guessing who they are or are we telling you are they good at singing is it which one is it and they were like
00:28:21
absolutely and uh and I was like good costume what I by the way I like the guess is it's
00:28:29
like uh is it Lady Gaga is It Adele I think it's uh President Obama and
00:28:35
they're like nope it's uh Corey Feldman and they're like oh I knew it oh it's
00:28:40
the kid from Eight is Enough that's when yeah well they twice they they
00:28:47
had but no it was from uh they they always throw out those you know they
00:28:53
throw out those crazy guesses big names big and then I when I and yeah I would like just one time to be like oh it is
00:29:01
Prince Harry holy [ __ ] they got him and and Megan marle they play like a horse
00:29:07
character and she's the front he's the back and they pop out that would be great that would be really good for
00:29:12
Ratings my mom would say they should do that they should do that Ken is so like
00:29:18
he's that he's like the secret weapon on that show where he's so freaking funny on it and like without I mean everyone's
00:29:25
really great and like and Robin like Robin uh thicks his great they had to throw uh
00:29:32
his his ear is so good that they have to throw static at him and Nicole sh when she was there or they'll they can just
00:29:39
listen to a person's voice and they they will point out some obscure singer from like oh that guy's from Northern Italy
00:29:46
he's a big pop star in Austria and he can both he and Nicole could deci for
00:29:52
that and so they had to throw anyway but and then Ken would just say the funniest thing
00:29:58
when I talked to Rob backstage he said I can tell you can't sing just by talking
00:30:04
to you because I hear your voice I was like
00:30:10
wow you want a uh fun fact David Spade yeah Bruce Lee went to the University of
00:30:17
Washington my alma moer where you did oh my God don't make me really research
00:30:25
Bruce Lee in the Dragon last week oh did you really yeah you have any classes
00:30:31
with him no he was much older than me how dare you when any yeah but when
00:30:38
everybody says like oh who oh you went to Harvard yeah like how many presidents and I was like nobody has a better yeah
00:30:44
I was like Bruce Lee name somebody better somebody cooler uh I'm gonna jump around here
00:30:51
you you were once quoted as saying which is a great beginning now when we talk
00:30:56
about SNL sometimes in this show you you say uh I think you say because you're
00:31:03
the only one that wouldn't love the Q cards I love the Q cards oh no bad I
00:31:09
would H the the anxiety that I'm feeling right now of hearing about it uh I don't
00:31:15
know how like I think I well I was talking to uh who's it a hater Bill hater about
00:31:22
like I was like I don't know how you do it man he goes oh I'm super dyslexic and if they change a single word I flip out
00:31:30
and uh Stefan you know like obviously that was improvised which was pretty incredible but no you got like I still
00:31:36
to this when I see like when I see like people doing uh The Weekend Update or
00:31:42
those things that I I I've gotten so much better at it because of the soup for so many years but that live audience
00:31:49
with Q cards flying with multiple people I would be like oh boy here we go well
00:31:54
there are a lot of cuts between dress and Air and you don't get a chance you're just going to see it on the card
00:32:01
and pretend yell on the way out it'll be on the cards and you're like on the card we're skiing that and you just go from
00:32:07
here to here so it is crazy but just for a second as it leads into this discussion how many years did you do the
00:32:12
soup because that's another part of your resume oh yeah 12 years soup's great and
00:32:17
did that break some that also was kind of fresh did ever not do well I always
00:32:22
thought Talk Soup in the soup would always you could always just oh yeah
00:32:28
it's it did not well really I always I loved it I thought everyone liked that
00:32:33
one I thought it was extremely entertaining no matter whenever you clip through and you saw it because it's it's
00:32:40
pop culture and quips and yeah no we had a good time but that I think then in
00:32:45
2015 i e was at that point not the most well organized uh uh Network on the
00:32:53
planet this is now almost 10 years ago but uh they signed me to a new 2-year contract in August and then cancelled
00:33:00
the show in late October and uh that was great and um and
00:33:08
they didn't realize my contract was guaranteed no joke no joke I'm not kidding around
00:33:17
here done it but and but was that time when the waterfall of streaming was just
00:33:25
budding into linear television and no one know you know television
00:33:31
viewing was falling off streaming was coming on uh slowly but surely and they
00:33:37
didn't know they were like what's the problem maybe it's the show's fault
00:33:43
and that was the they it would always BL and that that kind of brought it into
00:33:48
the barn also they all we we they had moved our night and and increased the
00:33:56
number of repeats and they were always telling us oh no no there's so many people watch there's even more people
00:34:01
watching it now and then they canel like I like why were why say I was like you're don't try to make me feel better
00:34:08
just tell me what's going on and uh that yeah so that that went that was on for
00:34:13
12 freaking years and uh couldn't believe it and I that was one of those cases where I was like well this is what
00:34:19
happens you get a television show and it it you know it's on it works this is how
00:34:24
it works right and then you know what's so hard nobody gets 12 years nobody gets
00:34:30
12 years does that exist out there is that on Hulu or Netflix it would soup
00:34:36
the soup just uh no because all those clips were news clips that uh so we just
00:34:43
we you could use them for free for one week and then you had to pay for them all and uh so there's I was told some
00:34:52
like there's a couple of people that saved you know like 400 episodes I was like I don't know who those people are
00:34:58
but I haven't seen them it is weird to go back and look at it my kids look at me and go what is h what is what are you
00:35:05
doing is that you and I'm like yeah that's what your dad used to do before he had hair and uh did you stick with
00:35:14
the crew laughing and not an audience we would have we put out
00:35:19
folding chairs for about 20 people cuz we wanted it to be we wanted to keep it
00:35:26
low and then they at one point wanted to do it daily and I was like we shouldn't do that cuz uh what if it doesn't work
00:35:33
and uh then it was going to become more of a talk show and I was like keep it
00:35:38
let's keep it to Just Clips slightly dirty jokes and uh yeah and then they
00:35:45
were like then Daniel Tosh came on and he was such a monster hit and I the e
00:35:50
was always like at one point there was the president who ended up uh canceling
00:35:57
the show she had this big meeting with me and she uh and she was like have you thought about putting Clips on from the
00:36:05
internet and then sh and I go like we do every week for the last five years and
00:36:13
she was like oh you do okay thank good all right end of meeting and I was like
00:36:18
she's not even watching the show she doesn't wow that's a perfect executive
00:36:23
yeah don't read like don't listen just have an opinion is doing your show
00:36:30
you're like yeah we're trying to be like the new show that's really our show yeah they're all very blurry I mean it's it's
00:36:37
a format that works and you guys do it toss to it then they just go oh we'll watch the new one new version and yeah
00:36:45
Rob D dear dear D has been doing it onv for forever for sure same thing so let
00:36:50
me ask you I'm just curious are the you were reading a tele prompter right I was
00:36:56
but um it so it was for the crew the first year uh nobody watched and because we
00:37:04
were on a 10 o'clock on Fridays uh it was a desert and this is you kids
00:37:10
listening or watching this there was a time when you could only tune in uh for
00:37:15
your show and you missed it if that didn't yeah uh and we began to beat a
00:37:21
like a rerun of Sex in the City and they were over the moon and the show was so
00:37:27
cheap at that point that they kept us on um but it would take me for 22 minutes
00:37:34
of jokes and clips put together it would take me four and a half hours to finally
00:37:39
kind of do it oh horrible oh there was a crew guy that quit he was just like I can't this guy can't read and uh that's
00:37:47
how we talk should be in and out in real time crew guy this kid can't read F of
00:37:54
course we hire somebody who can't read uh readed and so uh that with that
00:38:02
lowered my anxiety lowered as I got better at it and then I began to not
00:38:09
care uh and we would do the show live and I was like I would advertise that I
00:38:14
had dyslexia and I'd be like I don't know what's going to happen I can't really read but we're doing it live and
00:38:21
uh so that I mean of course the best therapy for my dyslexia was doing a live
00:38:28
show on television so uh it was an odd but but it um any but that's yeah so to
00:38:36
this day like I'm not the greatest reader but I'm so much more relaxed at it and uh and I just kind of go you're
00:38:44
it's just going to be a thing and that's how it is and it's not going to it's you're you'll just have to you know
00:38:50
these are it all worked out thank God but uh yeah when you guys just even I
00:38:55
know going back to it but when like reading like if I were to see a q card with like to see all the like to see two
00:39:03
jokes on a card at once and be like here comes that one here comes that one and I
00:39:09
know what's coming so that means I'm ready to talk to wow whatever that I would be like w I would need yeah that
00:39:17
that's always it was a bit it's a bit much I did it recently on SNL and it was uh there a lot there's a lot of notes in
00:39:24
your head you've got guests and moving and and producing and Landing jokes and yeah a lot of times there's three jokes
00:39:30
and one paragraph and they're not like delineated it's just but I do think
00:39:35
what's great is like I have two older brothers that are had dyslexia but it wasn't diagnosed back then no you just
00:39:42
just called you an idiot you're dumb yeah they were in the red book or the yellow book rather than the blue or
00:39:48
green whatever it you know and kind of felt sorry for him but it was just nothing to do with uh their intellect at
00:39:54
all so it's great that they can go no no this is how your brain works doesn't mean you're not Einstein you know so
00:40:00
it's yeah I I don't I don't know the and then the pressure of oh so this is aot
00:40:07
this is the mo you're on the most popular live show of all time you audition to get on this thing and then it's like here's we'll see how you do if
00:40:15
you if you score in this next 15 seconds you'll probably get another season or
00:40:21
you're just completely off the show and I that that's like the NFL yeah
00:40:28
that's right that I mean like I I to this like there are cast members I'm
00:40:33
like I can't yeah I mean you know you know but the cast members that got fired I was like what how did but they're sco
00:40:39
so yeah it's a long you know you you've been all over this for a many times
00:40:44
there's all kinds of reasons why things happen and some of it is just Whimsy and luck and and then people can last two or
00:40:52
three years and then something I don't know the how it all really goes on Kevin
00:40:58
ne's podcast and hey we start in just a second uh anyway trying to do a little
00:41:05
Kevin NE hiking hiking with Kevin let's give him a plug hiking with Kevin he's
00:41:11
yeah you is but he was saying that right before because he this that character Mr
00:41:17
subliminal yeah yeah Mr subliminal yeah it was like the first time he was doing
00:41:22
and he was just about to and Lauren got behind him like they're it's counting
00:41:27
down from the commercial and Lauren just goes are you sure this is what you
00:41:33
want and I was like what and he had a revolver in his feel like on top of
00:41:39
everything else the the creator of the show just kind of [ __ ] with you a littleit and you have to laugh and go
00:41:45
was he serious part of his sense of humor I mean he his running catchphrase
00:41:51
you walk past in the hallway still with the show you know he just likes to break
00:41:56
the tension and between dress and air he still gives a speech to everyone and kind of we're going on the uh air show
00:42:04
and it wasn't a really good dress it's like it'd be like really like really good if this show was like funny rather
00:42:11
than not funny you know we have a two- week break and you're going to meet a lot of your relatives and all they'll
00:42:17
remember is this show I'll go but that makes me laugh yeah or you say we had a two we break you're back and it shows uh
00:42:25
you took too much time off we got to get great thanks coach yeah anyway let's
00:42:31
do a great show get him well he's the I don't know I mean you're you were an athlete and stuff you had you could have
00:42:37
a coach who was you you you should all the time so I I went to State School uh
00:42:43
and then ones who just in a rare Blue Moon would give you a compliment or give you a little nudge and it meant a lot
00:42:49
more you know oh yeah no joke yes
00:42:55
[Music] so what was the sport you were best at I know you played football and you
00:43:02
also uh yeah well I walked on to the University of Washington football team
00:43:08
so I that was I was way out of my league um talk about being I could not have
00:43:15
been worse uh but they kept me on uh because I was I was really good at skit
00:43:21
night and uh they love me on skit night so they I became like a mascot but they
00:43:28
that was the most that was most terrifying I'd ever been a part of but at the same time most fun uh but if I
00:43:34
had to pick if uh I was really I was a good basketball player and uh yeah I I
00:43:42
there was I was a pitcher with my freshman year of high school and I quit that uh but I guess Triple Threat oh no
00:43:50
yeah I played I play darts I mean I played every my I like to blame my ADHD
00:43:56
but I just wanted to chase a ball or throw something as that's all I wanted
00:44:02
to do as a child uh but right like now all I do is play tennis if uh uh um I
00:44:10
remember playing freshman year football in high school and the coach was like see those guys playing tennis
00:44:16
they're all training to be old men and it was like and we can play football and everyone's like yeah and now I'm like
00:44:23
probably should have stuck with tennis that would been been a little bit better but I uh if I don't exercise I get ask
00:44:31
my wife I get very agitated and it's I think it's the my best form of therapy
00:44:38
that and red wine uh so uh yeah no I I I
00:44:43
I now have this relationship with the University of Washington where they it's
00:44:49
been because of you like being in in Hollywood they've uh not because of the
00:44:56
records I set I get to kind of do team events sometime now I'm still friends with a lot of the players but from the
00:45:01
uh the old guys so I I now am like I can't believe my good fortune like they they were they didn't kill me uh but
00:45:09
that our coach Don James who was not a yeller in any way he would be he was
00:45:16
always quiet and he even in practice he kind of stood in this booth and dired
00:45:22
things like like a conductor very quietly and when he would say something thing like that was he would be
00:45:29
literally just go that was good I'd be like coach James thought I was good and
00:45:35
uh but yeah we also yeah so he he he was uh continues to be one of the most
00:45:41
legendary coaches of all college football and uh yeah yeah I can't and
00:45:47
then when I saw him years later I was like hey coach and he was like oh hey and I was like you remember and because
00:45:53
it's a the walk-on programs at these colleges were were Canon fodder to make
00:45:58
the to make the scholarship players you know look better keep them yes basically
00:46:04
keep him keep him in shape that's my long yeah winded we got a clip
00:46:11
explanation I love hearing about that I was uh tracking you know distance running in high school and we do
00:46:17
intervals you sprint a lap around the track rest for a minute Sprint a lap and but the eighth one which was the last
00:46:23
one the coach would always say gentlemen blood gut and hair and we never knew
00:46:29
what the hair part you know we thought Blood and Guts but blood gut and hair your hair fall so stressed no I don't
00:46:36
know what it meant to this day I I'm asking and you guys don't know so clearly still haven't figured it out
00:46:42
Lauren Lansbury was his name he was a brilliant coach trained the [ __ ] out of us uh I remember Blair Witch Project
00:46:50
when they just found the teeth and the hair and that was more terrifying than finding a hand yeah I think that's a
00:46:57
good connection yeah it worked I mean we just got scared when we heard that but anyway Dan anything left for Joel he's D
00:47:04
did you play David did you play sports Joel
00:47:10
listen I'm not on trial here no I was a skateboarder I did play baseball I did
00:47:17
play all of them baseball basketball and football until it got too rough like I think I was good enough in baseball till
00:47:23
sophomore year in high school got cut never went back football I tried out sophomore year got annihilated and the
00:47:31
coach treated me like I was Lucas and said maybe this isn't for you and then
00:47:37
uh basketball yeah you could figure that one out it was fun to play like inter mural stuff and then I did it wasn't bad
00:47:43
it just at a certain point you're not GNA do any Dam did you uh I was probably as good as
00:47:48
bronny uh wait oh I root for bronnie come on man
00:47:54
don't take the other side any wait who's bronnie LeBron LeBron James
00:48:00
son I see yes ier David did you see that it came out
00:48:06
like five years ago they studied skateboarders and about how it teaches Independence because you're teaching
00:48:13
yourself something a lot of the time oh and it's not really a teams but you're it teaches true Independence and uh and
00:48:22
um to to be out on your own and to be aware of your surroundings and well it's
00:48:27
a good game to do on your own like when I you just get your skateboard in Arizona and skate around you don't need
00:48:32
to find a football game you don't need to find someone to play baskball with you just go hey I'm going to go skate and then you go to a pool or somewhere
00:48:38
and and there's other dirt balls there and you just skate around so it's kind of fun and my parents are gone in the
00:48:45
day so I would just skate and uh try to get better but I did really like it it
00:48:50
was definitely a skater mentality a bunch of dudes that were doing that and uh some were burnout and stuff but we
00:48:58
weren't going to be in the football team so there's different factions you know yeah and I was a skater but uh I'm glad
00:49:04
you brought that up because it's good on the quads that's the reason I have good quads that's why I don't show them a lot
00:49:10
because people would go [ __ ] nuts still you're still maintaining them then
00:49:15
somehow if we ever do this again we're gonna have to talk about truck restoration David oh yeah that's right
00:49:21
we uh right Dana we have a mutual truck restore corsetti who uh you're into I'm
00:49:30
in Land Cruisers near to Scouts well Scout I have Land Cruisers as well fuing
00:49:37
Rich [ __ ] yeah thank you trucks specific or SUVs Scout cool dude I have
00:49:44
an international scout and a 1970 Land Cruiser and a 1990 Land Cruiser cool all
00:49:49
the way I like all all look cool I'm looking at 70s trucks now that's all my
00:49:55
Instagram feed me too come on are you guys going to get a Tesla truck I mean come on man oh no they're so cool
00:50:03
looking they don't look like they're from that video game digdug at all you gonna get a dig dog
00:50:11
truck love Elon I I hope I think they're working out the bugs though I'm I'm not ready for a Tesla truck plus I'm too
00:50:18
puny they're they're [ __ ] magnanimous I saw one the other day I walked by it it's like a tank well the Lan go ahead
00:50:25
yeah LAN valet in one of those and just they'd say name on the for the car and I'd say I'm Batman and go right into
00:50:32
koyi you're not going to get in the Beverly Center with that does it seem like it's a Batman vehicle I mean it's pretty cool they I've seen him blocked
00:50:38
out I would worry that the valet would accidentally impale himself on one of the corners and sue you because they're
00:50:45
like what happened I bled out from I know they got you they come with back thank
00:50:52
God back is back all right thanks band thank you for having me and I held back
00:50:59
on um saying how giddy I was to uh talk to you guys cuz I uh you're uh my heroes
00:51:05
so that's it okay I'm leaving we we worked thank you buy we worked on things we've seen you around so just you guys
00:51:12
no idea how excited I I was to do this and my wife was like well that's a good one and I was like it's not like the
00:51:18
other ones are bad and she was like oh yeah they are she said please say hi and she's never met you say hello and thanks
00:51:25
buddy I'll see you around thanks Joel Animal Control Animal Control this has been a presentation of Odyssey please
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