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so Dana we're excited to have our first repeat guest on flying the Wall Dennis Miller who we both love grew up with and
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uh you were you knew him before I did and you guys are great friends and we're all we go back to the very beginning I
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remember playing a comedy club with Dennis Miller in 1981 the comedy magic club I first got to know him he goes he
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says I got no gigs KY got no gigs no gigs by the way he's probably the second
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most person you do on the show who's number is it Trump or Biden or what I would say Lauren because you know but
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Dennis is a close second and uh it's fun to try to process the way his mind
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thinks when you think of a thing it'd be like carvan spendley doing the classic intro a little long on the keep cop you
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know what I mean so but his mind well anyway you'll enjoy this because a couple years have gone by so there's
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just a lot of stuff to talk about and his mind is uh razor are sharp and really fun to listen to Sharp we cover a
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lot of bases and we mostly just crack up yeah we mostly just so we're just laugh uh you'll just watch me and Dana
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basically just listen to Dennis crack up and I will say the one and only I mean his he has a singular voice in standup
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which is amazing the one and only Dennis [Music]
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Miller hey Davey what's said Enter the Dragon skateboard
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what are you [ __ ] 60 you're 60 years old
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now Dennis I'm a skater at hard let me get a hat on I look like a mad no way
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we're not even we're not even showing this part boss but good no you look good though what do you mean my hair looks
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all [ __ ] up it's up up to you but yeah this is just audio so uh spudley uh I'll
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start you off by putting you on comfortable home ground as the great Jim Kelly said ghetto are the same all over
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the world and then he flipped an ollie okay let's Jim Kelly the quarterback I'm
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sorry who is that no there there was a guy in Enter the Dragon SP and at the
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beginning he's riding a junk and he looks around him he goes ghettos are the same all over the world that's and then
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an Olly is a skateboard trick Dana wake up I know I am waking up are you kidding
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all right boys let's rock this who played the bad guy who play what actor
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played the bad guy and entered the dragon I don't know um Kareem Abdul
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javar no that was it no it was John somebody he had a kind of a comb over a
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good actor anyway it was uh I remember Joseph Weissman played Dr No who was the
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the uh and he was in detective story with KK Douglas and I think they patterned Hong after him anyway let's
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let's go on with no this is what we're doing this is great this this is the beef of yeah the this as A+ podcasting
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so far I auditioned for Dr yes and my whole part got cut up Spade your hair looks
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good man what are you doing my hair looks good today why are we on [ __ ] camera Jesus I know he's got volume he's got lift he's got he's
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got Jesus I'm sitting over I look like uh okay here it goes at my everybody
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else looks good I was the first one in on plugged and they're not working for
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me we're gonna we're gonna we'll do a whole you know we just had Joel MC on
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yeah and uh his hair looks great and he fully admits he's got more plugs than last two minutes of Carson yeah Jesus
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it's your joke that's a dentist joke a class how
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many times I do dentist jokes are we on the air by the way sorry yeah yeah okay yeah so I was on The Tonight Show one
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night after I got my plugs um I was talking to Jay and we had
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a phow moment as it were because they had nothing to plug so um ironically I
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said hey Jay I just got hair plugs he no he didn't the hair looks great and I said no Jay I'm telling I got air plugs
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and I'm Healed up now and I want to show them off so I went up to the camera the number one camera and you know put my
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head down I said I've got around 5200 plugs here and uh came back and Jay said
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you're not kidding right I said no no and the next day I got calls from some of the most famous craniums in the world
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asking me where you know I won't betray their trust even though some of them have passed on now but saying where did
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you get your plugs and I I uh they said do they have a back door I said yeah but
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why use a back door you just go get hair plugs if you need hair plugs and the guy my doctor eventually called me when I
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needed some more and he said you're comped don't pull coin in my town I've got so many uh you know recommendation
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heads off you you reorientated the skulls of several hundred men in
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Southern California and that is a if you you have your legacy as one of the all-time great comedians but this Legacy
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we've heard about today helping people with their appearance their self-esteem
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I'm calling myself happy and I'm glad this was this is well like any anything
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like plas surgery or something you notice the bad ones but there's so many people that have different things
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they've done that you just would never know and they just go that guy looks pretty good yeah Ellen Burston always
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looked great I consider myself now in in retirement I consider myself a uh not a
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life coach but rather a life assistant coach where I I I don't have anything I
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don't speak to the Press on a daily basis I have nothing to do with the overall uh organization but I I consider
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myself the Str coach for I hired a life assistant coach
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a little cheaper I just stole your joke switched it and it's in my act now remember we used to call that bit
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surfing where somebody jumped on a bit I had that song on my show where you go two tags on every
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bit oh they're waxing up a premise and taking on down to the beach bit surfing
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yeah yeah yeah that happens if comedians are together I think the
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uh the rule is the unwritten rule like if you start a bit just you're talking and people kind of tag it just in
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conversation I think if you tag someone if I tag someone they're talking and they say oh I might use that I say go
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ahead it's you started the premise I'll throw you whatever I can shovel on this fire and take it right yeah Jimmy Valle
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was like the red a d he would air drop in on any main premise and start tagging
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it like like Floyd Mayweather work the speed back did re a dare help
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cap the oil rigs that were on fire in like Iran or something well he would do
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that thing that Duke Wayne did in the uh Hell Fire hell Fighters movie where if
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you knock the feed of the air out for just a millisecond the whole thing stops
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so you have to get up close Dynamite it stand behind something and have the
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dynamite suck the air out for a second and then uh that puts the fire out in an
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oddly ironic way and you have to remember the dynamite was invented by Alfred Nobel the Nobel Peace Prize
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because his original invention had croak so many people that he karmically worried whether he would ever get into
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heaven so he came he made him a monum of a donation in perpetuity to have a Peace
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Prize the only reason he did it is because he invented dynamite
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wow that I I I'm speechless I did not know that well car you remember when we were
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on the road we used to do San Jose and you'd go to the Winchester Mystery House certainly right it was this house that
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had it was like an eer print that had stairwells and Shoots and Ladders and the reason the woman she was of the
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Winchester uh she married a Winchester so many people had been killed with a guns she was afraid that the spirits
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were going to come back and get her so she buil a house that was one big baffle chamber so the ghosts would into dead
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ends because you know that's how you figure out how to stay alive after you're dead is that you can't figure a [ __ ] hallway out so anyway but do you
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remember the catchphrase of the local TV which was in the San Francisco Bay Area about the Winchester Mystery House it
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was it was always Winchester M house 10 miles south of San Jose open and then she would say keep
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building keep building and that would crush did you have local Pittsburgh bits
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that would only work in Pittsburgh well to some degree but I remember most from
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New York because that cat on on the island was always pushing Carbell was always pushing Cookie Puss and you know
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you had crazy Edie selling the stereo equipment so that's when I was first indoctrinated into local catchphrases
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and I remember SNL knocked off the most famous one which was uh thing of about
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played the beetle music on Broadway and it was called Beetle Mania and uh and
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then Jim Downey I think who one when doesn't it Trace back all roads lead to Downey comedically he wrote that great
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bit called Beetle Mania Mania gets not the Beatles but the next
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best thing and then he changed to it's not Beetle Mania but it's the next best thing and it looked like a copy of a
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copy you know at a Kinkos or something where the guys were even a little more washed out and Loosely connected to the
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actual be Beetle Mania guys so very funny what's your so let let me try you Spade
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first you're playing Chicago what's your local reference up front for a laugh my local reference up front is about
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Arizona and then I realized quickly it doesn't travel like that was the big wakeup call I'd never done s when I did
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SNL I'd only been to New York once in my life so all all my jokes weren't working
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and I didn't really have any clubs to go in once you're at SNL you're locked in that dungeon so I didn't do much standup
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except for maybe on the college gigs and the weekends now and then but man I would do literally I would say streets
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in Arizona I would say hey I was my cam back you know over with the hookers on Van
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beer sure fire but that's in Arizona and then I get out there and and I go I'm not funny I just know my area it's just
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different you know I had a go-to adaptation that's Politically Incorrect but I take the name of the city
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extrapolate it to sound like an Indian name you know Fresno from the old Indian name fres kna which means drop your
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shorts we don't have much time K crushed
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beyond beyond the Beyond I couldn't follow myself love I had to say thank
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you and good night you couldn't follow your own joke Jimmy Stewart blowing himself next and then I just leave the
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stage I could not follow myself I remember one night Randy uh Randy Quaid
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and I were coming out of we were coming out of the
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Comedy Store and we went past that train car up there that sells Burgers you
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remember that joint you'd come out what was it called spudley Carney I think yeah cars yeah and uh we're walking past
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Carney and when you were talking about Jimmy Stewart the original guy who did that uh his name was Ron Jeremy and uh
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he was porn star who Auto fated himself that's what he was known for he comes up and he's he's a big fan he's talking to
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Randy about sorry he's talking to Randy about the Last Detail and you know Randy was so great and that and then he's you
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know telling me some of my jokes and you know we're both like looking at well thank you sir that's nice and uh as soon
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as he takes two steps away from us uh Randy and I simultaneously look at each other and go that's the guy who blows
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himself he wasn't even out of ear shock we couldn't wait to tell each other oh
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man I saw him at the rainbow all the time literally everyone from 1990 to 98
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that's doing well is at the rainbow obviously me included I was like why was I there oh
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um but I saw like you know Brett Michaels and those guys they just and they you know there's something about
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old people not oldie but people that dress the way they were when they're their most famous so like they'll have
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the same hat or the same look or the same hair the same exact outfit so you go oh that's that guy you know what I
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mean was the rainbow the joint um like below there was a private club
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called On The Rocks wasn't that no that's a Roxy I'm sorry I got it very close though that's all that same little
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run there where they're gonna mow it down soon and make a Club Monaco well they better not do the
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whiskey because that's where the Lizard King made his name so you've got to leave the whiskey up it should be
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whiskey Lizard King sorry who's the Lizard King wait a sec what what are you doing you te Jim Morrison yeah sure oh
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Jim Morrison is the lizard oh because of the the leather outfit I you know I
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didn't I never got Jim's curriculum V to see exactly why he named himself that
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but yeah I think uh I think there was some story about him out on a highway
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and he ran into an arao crossed over and head oned into a telephone pole or
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something and died and he saw the guy's Spirit came into him and he saw lizard on the road something like that just
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another day was the plot that was the plot of ways World 2 I believe I thought he had a bigk you
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jennis no we had a guy playing Jim Morrison in the desert but uh okay fun
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fact Bill T craigy was disportionately wrinkled for his age and that's where the phrase craigy came from because
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craigy is a great how's he aging he's looking a bit craigy Cy craigy you mean
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Craig's craigy is not a word cra he's saying with an E it's with an a right I just made that up to get oh okay Jesus
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well come on have them have them Loosely based in reality for
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Godin tourettes you know Mr craigy I'm thinking what CRA
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is craigy is in fact craigy that's the joke isn't it ironic I'm glad we're just
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on audio today because my hair I'm looking at it now you guys both Carby
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yours looks like a beautiful like showering uh you know like one of those geysers goes off and runs down the side
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of your head and I look over products and he looks like David Jansen the the
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the uh Lon if you blew it straight up spudley's hair beautiful I know looks
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great spudley's hair today I did they combed it yesterday but uh I have to
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start something Friday I still don't know if I'm wearing a wig or not what do you mean start something Friday you're doing a film oh I don't like to talk
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about it what's going on bus boys with theovon it'll be in a theater near you
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bus boys with the St introduced me to that cat and I find him so funny I I
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mean really we had a [ __ ] blast he is a smart guy man remember we sat down in
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uh we we watched the UFC one night and you were with him and I thought uh I
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thought it was like a Reincarnation of Phil's cavem lawyer thing you know he looked a little rough but then the more
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I listened to him during the night I said Jesus this cat is hysterical man
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yeah if you get into that frequency he says the funniest [ __ ] and I was in between so it was the fight was right in
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front of us so we just and obviously if you get D Dennis right next to you just Whispering jokes about every round and
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we were just all talk telling jokes to each other and uh it it was the funnest night in the world yeah I sit next to
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Dennis a lot there I have been in a while I are you going to go well we'll
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talk after you I'd like to go in and see something that's quality talk well Dan is the Dane is the best
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host isn't he he's a good he's a good guy and he always treats you like a king
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and uh you know you'll be sitting down front and uh you'll think God out of all the people in the world and I see mil
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Miles Teller there a lot too he's a good guy and one night I saw Mel Gibson and
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Lady Mary from down AB you remember that night oh I didn't see I saw Mel I've seen him there yeah well she was just
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she was doing a film with him so they were just Dana White I am Dana White's
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Godfather he was named after me I've never revealed that before but yeah Dana Ky love that guy
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Cy great by the way to pull it all craigy is in fact Craig recessive Steve
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recessive chin has a weak chin these are just these all in Farmers all manac you
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know it's funny is when uh it's like it's like whenever I'm with you guys I know it's going to be such stream of
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Consciousness that it reminds me of those times you had to do pre- inters when you were starting out and like the
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Letterman pre- interiew was more in depth than you trying to became a citizen of the country for God's sakes
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you sit there with somebody and go over jokes phonetically and you know all of a
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sudden you're in an office with some people we all remember the people I don't want denigrate them but some of the people that you're pitching jokes to
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you're thinking my God if if I was writing to their level I wouldn't be on the Letterman show you know you'd have to say a joke and they'd look at you not
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that one what you you do a 45 minute pre- interview this is what people at home don't know
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before you do a seven minute spot on you know let him or something so you're like pitching and the guy's like what's your
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Obama thing and do the whole thing and sweating at the end he's like ah what else maybe we'll push that to the end
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that's the worst there's time by the way did you have a Tonight Show first Tonight Show doing standup I don't even
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know that story or did you I don't think I SK that you came out as a guest after I remember there was a cat who screamed
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people for The Tonight Show and he had like a six and a half foot long Hobie
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Cat that he would go out to pasaden on the weekend and Pitch himself as a yachtsman you know and then you you
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eventually see a picture of the boat that it's you know your grandson's in the bath sub with it it's so small and
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that guy was omnipotent about who got I'm recovering from hobiecat I'm still
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recovering from just the do you remember that guy D mcau oh yeah mcau right right
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it was so funny You' pitch jokes to him and you think oh my god you're kidding me but I never ended up doing standup
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I'm kind of well I don't know I I almost seemed like I was a different person back then when I think back on it as I
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got older I started to hedge more bets because I feel like when you're starting out you just get in the room and you
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figure I've got to get into the center of this room so I'll take some risks and then later as you go along you're in the
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center of the room to some degree I'm not saying you know Tom Cruz is the center of the room but you're at least
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in the room and you think I'm going to hedge a few bets here because I don't want to end up getting kicked out but at the beginning you're Fearless I look
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back and I think I can't believe I had those coomes but I did panel the first
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time and Johnny was Johnny was like Henry Higgins you know showing you at Ascot or something he was so good at it
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it was an easy gig why can't a regular piece be more like a comedian I'm trying to do the My
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Fair Lady thing there but why can't Dennis be more but uh yeah this is the
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first time I saw the power of our former manager Brad gray Jim mcau me going
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there and my time was cut down or something so Brad just sitting in his chair in the green room and had that
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raspy kind of voice and he just gestures with his finger to mcau so mcau comes
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over and has to bend down to Brad and I heard Brad go we're not happy we're not
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happy right now it was the most powerful move I'd ever seen he really completely
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Lal the guy you could be having lunch with Brad at the grill and all of a sudden it turned in him and the waer was
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like him and mo green or Michael and mo Green in Vegas I don't want you to ever touch my brother and he was banging C I
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don't care you do not touch my you know it got really uh Brad
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inab yeah yeah spudley was he your guy too or was it gery all the time always gervitz
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always gervy Brad would just jump in on stuff but it was all you know but gery's been straight through uh since day one
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and uh had different agents but yeah the uh geritz is always funny we make fun of
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him on the show all all the [Music]
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time well you know the great Brad story is uh geez I don't know if I should tell
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this we can always edit just well car you've heard this where they're were they're in the
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Bernie's office uh Sandy who Sandy Warick ends up managing Adam to yeah
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ultimate success I mean who's had a career and Adam's Adam you know I mean he's so great at it but those two dubb
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tailed perfectly and uh so it's Sandy and Brad and Bernie and Bernie yeah
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berstein the vular head yeah and uh Brad says
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uh he says to the receptionist we don't want to be interrupted this is important
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I don't know what it was about and then around 10 minutes in the receptionist calls and say Brad and he's I said I
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didn't want to be interrupting he said it's your father now Brad at that point you remember they were you know his father were exchange estranged for a
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while and uh you know the Brad looked he goes uh Jesus I haven't talked to him in
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years anyway and uh birdie says well he he's either sick or he needs money and
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Sandy says let's hope he's sick good line good line Sandy warning
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actually Hollywood so brutal so cold but the good thing G
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uh BR Bernie they loved comedy that's why they have so many people that are comedians they have all the SNL guys all
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the great ones all the way back to belak and so they still have them and that's why it's fun to go in and talk to Bernie
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when I was a newer comic and he go come in here and he goes tell me what's going on and then he just wanted to [ __ ]
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laugh so fun those he was funny he gave confidence Brad brought him to see me at
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a club and he goes we're not going to give you the Saturday Night Live you bigger than Saturday
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line my previous managers thought I was a hack and you know so it was you're
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bigger than them he always started he'd always start his compliments off with how's about how's about you're a [ __ ]
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genius how's about he told me how's about you play Rooster te feathers again I go well what
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about starting live ah come on you got to stay in the bullpen a little bit that you were there that week that I
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was at fubars with Destiny and tree what wait great standup right yeah he
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was a good stand up remember there was girl Destiny and then there was the cat Earl he put on some weight and he went
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as tree trunk you remember that what do you mean he he evolved into tree trunk or he put on weight and then
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he named himself tree is this another Cy joke I need an assist talking to the best joke riter
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yeah probably ever yeah so he needs clarity
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so what's uh what's happening on the Pod boys I see as I looked at the thing today that it was called something else
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and it is it no longer focused on SNL is it just sort of a free forming that's been a problem from the get-go that the
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confusion over that we started a second podcast it's just us talking about
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videos and goofing around on YouTube on video that's called Superfly totally
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separate from fly on the wall and a lot of people don't w a lot of moving Parts
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there boys we took a confus confusion course at the learning ends Annex this is what we came up with and the two
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podcast hared themselves they they diseased themselves they sort of each
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don't start a Dr Lura thing where you called The Fly is down you know where you talk to depress people because
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you're going to dilute the brand even further you get oh no it's it's we're up for the best podcast award we're up for
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the best podcast award to again well yeah we are for best podcast on iHeart
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beautiful guys not exactly the Nobel Peace PR why don't you send the she send
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sashen Little Feather from down is that who Brando sent is she
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still picking up Awards you might look her up somewhere maybe she she can go in it would be good publicity if you guys
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said say she I don't know if they have a literal award show I think it's an online poll
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of nine people and but I'll we're over 200 podcasts we just
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found out we've done over 200 between the two beautiful boys Cary where are
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you at there are you up are you up this way yep beautiful on a farm I know in
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the Central Valley well you look like it agrees with you you look healthy as hell but you've got always had the best
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health regimen there's great hikes up that way are you going up in the mountains at all oh yeah keeping that V2
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Max going send me another picture of your quads I remember Cary used I I
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think I went to the workout with him once when we were on Saturday Night Live and he uh he set the uh StairMaster
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machine on the highest setting and he was talking to me throughout he like did an hour on it you know I'm over there
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doing some girls push-ups and he talked a whole hour he wasn't even gassed and
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you know at the end like sherpers were tapping out next to them you were in the best fit uh anerobic Di I've ever seen
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and then you had the uh the pump blew out or something back pump blew out in
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your heart that was later on it didn't blow out I had hyper classia but I was
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like a a sports car with a fuel injection proper but the engine was great engine was perfect listen still a
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pink TI sorry Dennis it's still not something things
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never change no I I watch Ford and Ferrari and Carol Shelby originally wanted to power his car with your heart
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that's how strong heart was dude I get the whole thing did you
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ever they did a whole thing I mean they go go in Just for Laughs get the whole scan and so I got a whole scan and I
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think I did good I think I sent it to Dana because I didn't understand it both all these years zero all these years
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when you've sort of floated on the periphery of social scenes and I know you like a nice Social Scene but you're always working the uh what did they call
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it on Old paintings they call Air be whales at the corner of the painting it would Point outside every time I've ever
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been in a social setting or a banquet with you you're always floating around the outside and then you split because
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your neck hurts and I always wondered was that just a defense mechanism to get out of a scene or did your neck actually
00:28:15
hurt uh it it's its neck hurts combined with some boredom but
00:28:23
usually but everything I feel like more the people are less boring but if you're at one of these I was at a Netflix party
00:28:30
the other night and you know you go around I see people it's fun and I see famous people you don't see for a while
00:28:35
so we have a few laughs but when you're walking around with like now you got a plate full of crab cakes and you're just
00:28:40
now it's the fourth time you're running in a Miles Teller you just go I think I'm going to get out of here because it
00:28:45
turns into a head nod and then you ignore them on the fifth one and then you just go I think I've done my job
00:28:51
here tonight but I last about an it's really down to about an hour now at the even if it's a great party I'm like I
00:28:56
don't know I can't [ __ ] rot well I have to tell you one I have to tell you one Dana that we're Spade stayed longer
00:29:04
and this will talk about what a me f is he's always sort of ethereal and he pisses on stuff but he's the guy who's
00:29:10
sending the bread to buy the bulletproof vest for the cops and Phoenix and that and my son is graduating and it's when
00:29:17
Tommy Boy is out it's the biggest thing in the world and uh I as spade and just
00:29:24
I thought if he came to this grad party they had now imagine this we we pitch
00:29:29
the grad party and we're going to show Tommy Boy on a screen at this party and it's all soft drinks and that it's yeah
00:29:36
it's not like we're at Paulie Shore's house up above but uh it's a just a really sweet party we're going to watch
00:29:42
the film and we deliberately have the projector break or it won't function and
00:29:48
then I said ah the kids are all like bummed up I kind of you know they they've all seen the film 10 times
00:29:53
themselves and I go what are we going to do to fill time well one of the stars is here in spudley walked out from behind
00:29:59
the screen it was the biggest Hue and cry people went crazy these kids and
00:30:05
then spudley stayed for a couple hours he couldn't have been nicer he and he didn't turn into a stiff you know where
00:30:11
it was all you youngsters you're GNA you know he was just cool Spade but framed
00:30:16
properly and they all felt like they met the real guy and they still talk you know obviously my son's still once in a
00:30:23
while say remember when Spade came and I always think what a cool move Davey yeah thank thank you uh spudley [ __ ] wrote
00:30:30
it out that's a fun time though that's that scenario is perfect because you're not overwhelmed it's not too much you
00:30:35
know some things are too much uh and are you still with that girl you left I'm sorry
00:30:43
what sorry what's going on alert alert Dennis you're cutting out
00:30:50
hey Dennis was our guest I like the story he ended with about the uh Tommy Boy stuff dive this
00:30:58
ain't no horses [ __ ] sorry I'm going right back to the Last
00:31:04
Detail I want do that for the last 40 minutes way guess who was brought up for bus boys Randy quate is that crazy he
00:31:13
get him in there we were brought up we were talking about casting and uh we were talking about I think it was for
00:31:18
Theo's dad and Theo said why don't Randy quid we're all like oh my God we can
00:31:25
dust off Randy qu he's the nice he's the nicest guy and you remember some of his work in Midnight Express and that I mean
00:31:31
he's a great actor jeez most people know him from vacation but he's done this all this other stuff but he can just ride on
00:31:39
vacation forever because he was so good in that but I don't even know what bus boys is tell me what what is bus oh just
00:31:44
a movie me and Theo wrote and uh it's uh about two losers that want to be waiters
00:31:51
they're bus boys that try to be waiters they can't work and they think if they're waiters it'll straighten out their lives but cuz my girl girlfriend
00:31:58
ran off with a waiter so so we're like [ __ ] dude waiters got it made dude that's if we just get that it all come
00:32:05
together for us so I don't want to give it all away Dennis no come on that's pretty good but your bus boys and then
00:32:11
Shenanigans yeah happened obviously happened Dennis was there on the first round of [ __ ] Joe Dirt and then uh I
00:32:20
remember we were doing it and remember we didn't have a ton of time so that's right I mean I had my mini sides on my
00:32:27
legs in the radio station Freddy wolf behind me playing the the guy I remember
00:32:33
that Tech Guy and then uh the zoo crew guy and then Dennis was the one of
00:32:39
course we try to write jokes for Dennis and then they're somewhat in the vicinity and then he just keeps adding
00:32:45
laughs and so it made it that every time we cut back to the radio station it's
00:32:50
funnier because Dennis is doing all this great Jane Fonda from Clute that was not in the script I guarantee you and uh and
00:32:58
then I had my sides my leg said so many lines it was too hard I'd look down then
00:33:03
I'd say them then i' look down say them but we got through it Spradley um out of all the things I've
00:33:09
done uh I can't tell you how many people still come up to me and I always
00:33:16
wondered why why was that I know you did it twoo but it seemed like it would have been right for two even quicker than
00:33:23
that right it's such a that's M yeah yeah we might do an animated
00:33:30
version which would be easier because then I won't have to get look like the old jod dirt so was a sequel a few years
00:33:37
ago right yeah yeah but I'm saying that one had to go to
00:33:42
crackle some offense to crackle I was going to say no off bought crackle yeah Sony bought crackle and they go we're g
00:33:48
to make this Netflix which was wasn't a bad idea so they said the only way we'll
00:33:54
let you do another Joe Dirt is if you go do it on Crackle now we didn't know there'd be
00:33:59
commercials in it and a not a pay wall but you'd have to sign up for crackle so all these people that want to watch it
00:34:05
have to fill out a form and make it harder and they said if we can get a million downloads out of this we'll be
00:34:13
successful and that'll help build our library and get the word out because you know I could do press at NASCAR and I
00:34:18
could go and talk to so we do it they give us a shitty budget we do it
00:34:24
actually they cut the budget during the shoot which was bad sign not great uh
00:34:30
and then we do it I still like it I go out there and try to I didn't get paid a lot we go do it they get a million
00:34:36
downloads within two days wow and within a in a week they got two million and
00:34:41
then they got three million and then around three and a half I just stopped asking and then I because there was just
00:34:48
they that's why I don't understand with all the stuff bail on Crackle then it folded so they crackle's still out there
00:34:55
but they decided they don't want to put money into it to make it into Netflix so I don't know what its purpose is anymore
00:35:00
but we had a good jump start very obscure well Spade that's why I'm saying with all the adherence to the in
00:35:08
intellectual property everything needs some sort of past uh you know iteration
00:35:13
before people will bet money on it Joe Dirt number one was such a proof of concept I'm surprised somebody didn't
00:35:21
you know to think that somebody said will let you do a Joe D to if you'll do it on Crackle for God's SES why not just
00:35:26
do it on citizens ban radio they should have come in and said let's do a sequel and push chips in Like Mike did with
00:35:32
Wayne's World 2 I bet you it would have went that high yeah I don't know that was a tough part we couldn't get it
00:35:38
going and so that was our thing was um to put it there on um the witness
00:35:45
protection program but and it's shocking it did well over there and they got all these people signed up to [ __ ] dog
00:35:51
[ __ ] crackle but then they pull the money to make it big uh like a Netflix and so the head of crackle love
00:35:58
well let's face fact once once you do the mosy through Show Business spudley you're still in the middle of it Dana ey
00:36:04
a little further down the line you're surprised you get anything off the ground honest to God the great mystery
00:36:09
to me and I don't know maybe carve had something to do with it but the biggest thing in America was church lady I see
00:36:15
some of the things they make movies of from Saturday Night Live I'm telling you carve you remember one church lady was
00:36:21
at its peak it was just it was yeah isn't that special was everywhere
00:36:28
and the that movie theatrically this is way before Co all that stuff but I I
00:36:33
always thought that would come off what's the back story on that or you choose not to sh SNL Studios Lauren
00:36:39
Michaels didn't get an official Studio SNL Studio started after I left
00:36:44
somewhere and that's where they did Stuart SMY movie It's Pat movie um I had an idea once that she's
00:36:51
at a Bible retreat in Santa Barbara and then she's driving her car in a rainstorm and it breaks down in Malibu
00:36:57
and then she goes and knocks on the door it's a it's a Malibu beach party full of celebrities and Sodom and gomorra W W
00:37:05
Young Frankenstein we're not wearing any pants are we you know so it just goes
00:37:10
around um the church lady is if anyone's listening we we can do that for three
00:37:16
and a half million and just give you some back I told you you should have did Church B on one of those snls you where
00:37:23
you just do complete mash up of your Biden and you're in the church that was your
00:37:28
idea B well excellent well isn't that
00:37:34
special more special you would have figured it out you would have figured it out no doubt
00:37:40
no he gets he gets in his one of his things and he comes into to the podium with a wig on and he thinks he's
00:37:49
uh well look I mean I don't know if this is rumor but I hear that with what
00:37:56
they're planning with Biden's retirement is to build a replica of the Oval Office in the house and bring him in there
00:38:03
every day and then once in a while the the the fear is that you know Hunter might pretend to be a foreign person you
00:38:09
know who who's who we have next we have the ambassador to Spain here yeah hey
00:38:15
Ola hola I'm uh my name's uh Sebastian I'm from Spain yeah what can I do for
00:38:21
the country of Spain I've always loved Spain I we could use like a hundred billion dollars all right let's do get
00:38:28
him get get him a check AO a Vista whatever dad I mean me goodbye so that's
00:38:37
like rert pupkin the Nero and king of comedy's doing he's doing the talk show
00:38:42
down in the Bas in front of the
00:38:47
[Music] placards but I went to 10 sat Night Live parties and stayed there till 5:00 a.m.
00:38:54
every night can you believe this Dennis this [ __ ] went car they must have been all coming up to
00:39:00
Kiss the Ring right I mean gez you're you have a Meritor status there now once
00:39:05
you're around long long enough you do get you do get a lot more uh positive
00:39:11
feedback you know I remember when you and I would go to those SNL parties after when we were in such an unwind
00:39:18
thing and neither one of us were serious parters but that's such a pressure cooker that you would probably throw
00:39:23
five or six beers and I'd have a couple vodkas on the rocks and then we'd share car to the upper west side cuz we lived
00:39:29
across the street from each other and neither one of us are great drinkers I mean you could handle your beer better I
00:39:36
have never left as hard in my life as when we would go up the you know the the Westside Highway and just uh how from
00:39:44
some of those parties that were way down we just so silly like you know it flying
00:39:50
you and I flying together and sort of flaunting our Neurosis in a funny way
00:39:56
but was the seat behind me and I'm in the seat ahead and we're just flying across the country and Dennis over and
00:40:04
over again with lean in and say Carvey if you see anything out of the ordinary
00:40:10
anything I want to be the first to know and if he said that one time he said it like 40 50 every single time it Crush we
00:40:18
were so frightened flying Carvey and I were event grew to be a good flyers I had a good Insight from pen pen Gillette
00:40:26
once of pen and tell or we were on a flight and it was getting bouncy and uh he was reading the newspaper he didn't
00:40:32
even look over at me I was getting pissed off it's one of those things where you get pissed off and somebody's not afraid of flying when it's really
00:40:38
bumpy and I look over and I go you're [ __ ] kidding me this doesn't scare you he goes what I get this and he
00:40:44
finally looks up and now he's cognizant that we're in really bad turbulence and he looked at me he oh shut up but
00:40:51
Alexander the Great would have given everything he ever done for two and a half minutes up here which some weird
00:40:58
way gave me uh clarity about the pragmatic nature of flying and but when
00:41:04
Carvey and I were on the road together we were both so flipped out that we' get
00:41:09
we'd get plaster you remember that night we were over the Rocky Mountains in that electrical store and we both called
00:41:14
Bernie brosy and our manager home and told him we were leaving the company
00:41:21
we you have a out here on the road you're on [ __ ] Malibu on AR architectural Digest son of a [ __ ] yeah
00:41:30
Dennis used to say got a little light chop and a little dirty air that's how they tone it down you're like I'm
00:41:36
bouncing off the ceiling we got a little light chop yeah I just want to say two words
00:41:42
about this chop structural Integrity they always go you know the W
00:41:48
wings of the plane can touch at the top I'm like I don't know if we need to get that far and test this out carf did you
00:41:54
get better at it I haven't flown with you in a while I've got I've gotten better at it yeah I think so I think you
00:42:02
just get worn down by it but I still do get thirsty on an airplane even with the
00:42:07
little bit of packed in there claustrophobia you know I'm just bouncing around it's third hour in and
00:42:13
I'm kind of bored and then it's like someone comes up very nicely and says would you like something to drink and I
00:42:20
go okay you're not trying to pretend with me you're still on Commercial Air are you because I mean come on are you
00:42:27
are you kidding me well the gross in the net gets Disturbed when you do a gig and
00:42:32
you get very disturbed it gets it gets altered yeah you know they were cheaper
00:42:39
now it's when it's a push it's bad yeah you remember when that spudley that was one of the best days in my life we had a
00:42:45
gig in a place called therville Oklahoma or something Oklahoma we wanted to get
00:42:51
in and out and Norm was with us the three of us were the the headliners and
00:42:56
we a plane and we flew from Van eyes or Burbank I think to therville there was
00:43:03
you know you didn't even have to land in uh Dallas and do the Drive North because there was a somewhere up near therville
00:43:09
which was a nice gig I don't want to City thille Casino Casino you're right
00:43:15
it's a and we we knocked the gig out and then we split right after so between all
00:43:20
of the stuff we were there you know together for like uh 10 or 12 hours that
00:43:25
I have never left so hard Norm for sure that killing me that was my last Norm
00:43:31
hangout I mean I think because it before covid one funny thing Dennis did is he
00:43:37
goes hey spudley well I think we each had to do 30 and he's like uh you wantan to I
00:43:43
think I might want to go first and run run back to the room and take care of some stuff and I'm like oh then okay
00:43:49
then nor goes then I should go on after that and I go yeah go ahead you [ __ ] [ __ ] I have to follow these two
00:43:56
great comedians so fine now did you know spudley that uh did you know that Norm was I did not know Norm was that that
00:44:04
you know he was pretty no I was I never knew kind of mad about it because we kept setting up a dinner and then he
00:44:11
kept going I go so what so it's six o'clock so you're heading over and you're like what it's co I go Norm we've
00:44:20
gone over this it's nine months into covid you drive to my house we sit 10
00:44:25
feet apart at my table what I go we keep just you agree to it
00:44:31
and then you can actually hard of hearing or was that just a stall tactic I I go I didn't like it when he would
00:44:37
text what I go Norm you can't text what you hear me on text isn't it ironic that
00:44:44
Norm's true genius and I don't know from the first time I met him I told you that first joke he I heard there was a new
00:44:51
kid in LA from Canada Eddie Feldman my writer said there's a guy here who great
00:44:56
I saw him his name is nor McDonald and I said well where did you see him he said I saw him at the Improv and he did that
00:45:02
great joke where he said uh I I feel sorry for the homeless guy but I really feel sorry for the homeless guy's dog
00:45:09
because you know the dog's thinging this is the longest [ __ ] walk I've ever been on do we do we eventually go in
00:45:15
somewhere because I could do this on my own and I heard that joke I said your that is so funny so I get on the horn
00:45:21
with norm and I say hey I know you're just here and I'm just saying if you want to stop Gap writing job I've got
00:45:27
this talk show and uh I said I'd hire you right now but just the protocols
00:45:32
dictate you send in some sort of uh uh a batch of jokes or something and Norm said I don't do batches but I'll send in
00:45:39
one joke and you guys can make a determination he was already hired but I was trying not to usurp the head writer
00:45:46
and producer's uh you know their office and I didn't want to over step so uh I
00:45:52
go okay send a joke and the joke is he reads the AP wire story of Jeffrey dmer
00:45:57
tral and it's so grotesque and detailed you know the actual transcript about disembowelment and eating pancrea B and
00:46:06
he reads the whole thing and then he says at the end dmer defended himself by saying he started
00:46:14
it it's like the greatest Joe cber so we hired him and I always thought he was a
00:46:21
genius from that point on but he always sort of was on The Fringe and now it's
00:46:26
so unfortunate it's like to me he's like van go you know when you hear about van go uh during his lifetime having to you
00:46:34
know take handouts from Tao and that Norm was not taking handouts but I'm just saying every day I look now on the
00:46:41
uh reels that I get it's nor reminded of another great joke yeah 100% because I
00:46:47
get these nor McDonald pages and people send them to me and I'm like I don't remember this joke like there's a couple
00:46:53
that I never saw I don't know if you guys had this experience but I was just I had a long drive and some reason I
00:46:59
ended up talking with norm and for an hour and a half we talked about our
00:47:04
career issues and he was just completely not one joke and just sort of talking
00:47:11
about this sitcom didn't go and they didn't know what to do with me and it was very interesting to be around him
00:47:17
the only other time I heard him like that was when his atache assistant best friend Lori Joe had some heart issues
00:47:24
and they were Consulting with me she's fine for people who are listening but uh Joe and I could tell that Norm was
00:47:31
really worried and um so he had that other side of course but as far as
00:47:36
obtuse onliners I I would praise him as high as as putting him on Dennis's
00:47:42
footing I would put those two guys that's no I'm being totally real I mean
00:47:47
look th this is an example of a thing that I always quote about you and it it
00:47:52
it just kills me I don't know why but you were up there you're opening for me or I'm opening for you and you go Jimmy
00:47:59
cracked corn and I don't care what the kind of hell out of chin is that you
00:48:06
know I mean like who does that who would do a joke like that I had to go out with
00:48:12
this guy and I did uh what either black or white special I think Schneider did open for one and I open for one and uh
00:48:19
you have to go up before Dennis's crowd but they're nice and then Dennis does a killer hour so great each joke
00:48:27
double your cards out yeah app great um you know when we uh when I when I
00:48:32
actually saw recently sometime in the last year I mean by recently our our young comedian specialist studl that
00:48:40
that was quite a murderer's row of comedians when I look back on it Freddy St was good Jan was good car I think
00:48:47
you're friends with Jan carum right or you know she was in it Drake uh that cat
00:48:54
Thomas who's no longer with us but was a and you and Schneider I mean you look
00:48:59
back man we were hit we hit the ball that night oh [ __ ] yeah Dennis hosting
00:49:05
it Brad and gerit produced it and uh what a great one that got me at least in
00:49:11
the vicinity of SNL and then uh you helped on that one too I remember
00:49:16
writing [ __ ] update jokes for Dennis it's so hard God dang it's so hard to
00:49:22
write a bunch of jokes it's just update jokes are a different world too people get there as comics and think you're
00:49:28
going to write a sketch very easily it's such a different muscle it's so hard to figure out that formula you know I see
00:49:35
uh I see reals of the current guys who do it and I I don't I'll be honest I don't watch the show um and there's no
00:49:43
grievance there I just it's not my not up at 11:30 on Saturday but I do
00:49:48
see these clips of them together and when they do that back and forth thing where they write jokes for each other
00:49:54
they kill is so funny and I I I don't remember seeing reals of them years ago
00:50:01
so I don't know if they've grown into it or not but I think his name's Yos and uh
00:50:06
Chay are very funny together Colin and Michael yeah they started doing that maybe just a couple three years ago I
00:50:13
think but they've evolved that with this chemistry to become one of the alltime Duos up there and when I was there the
00:50:21
last show Michael wrote some jokes called jokes for Colin to read live on
00:50:27
air and they were extremely inappropriate racist and there were a lot of stuff about his wife Scarlett
00:50:33
Johansson and they would cut to her in the hallway looking at it on a monitor and that crushed because Colin lost it
00:50:41
for real on on live TV laughing so hard barely getting through it that Crush as
00:50:46
hard as anything I'd seen in that studio in a long time to talk to somebody who's
00:50:51
inside there car because I've heard that too and sometimes these stories are almost apocryphal about things because I
00:50:58
remember you know let's face facts when you'd go out with Robin everybody'd say he's just making it up as he went along
00:51:03
and he often made things up but he also had a Corey worked off nobody's going out there with absolutely nothing so you
00:51:10
hear these tales and you wonder are they actually seeing each other's jokes you believe for the first time they are when
00:51:17
they do that yeah when they do that they do but they don't do them because they're not that no one's that great an
00:51:22
actor I mean they that they're they're really shocked by I'm happy to hear that
00:51:27
yeah well you remember I the first time I heard that was uh melany who I think is a genius used to write jokes for that
00:51:36
character that uh was a guy who went bter did hater
00:51:43
with the hands over his mouth Stefan or something the single funniest joke I
00:51:50
think I've ever heard on Weekend Update is hater would always the template was
00:51:56
this place has everything and uh and then he did the quintessential New
00:52:02
Yorker joke and only people who have lived in New York and co-ops or Condominiums will know what this means
00:52:08
be say this place has everything dman who high five Children of
00:52:16
Divorce and you remember the doorman in your building was always like you know
00:52:22
like part of the family after a couple years and and everything in your building building was known by everybody
00:52:28
else and if there was a you know disturbance in the force the guy would go out of his way to make the youngans
00:52:33
feel good but children you know that yeah melany is an incredible joke writer
00:52:39
uh the the you know being on that show again a lot of magic stuff happens at
00:52:46
the dress show I just anecdotally it seemed to me the dress show just had
00:52:52
more energy and and just um so the fact
00:52:57
that Colin did not they don't do those jokes at the dress show they're just doing them live live show but there's
00:53:03
something about like I would go do Biden yeah and I come out of the dress show when I first started Landing it people
00:53:09
like clapping and Wow way to go and then I would do the air show try to do
00:53:14
equivalent and then you come out out of ADH and everyone's just like you know so
00:53:20
there is something I I just want I mean the show works the way it works it's 50 years should never change it but I
00:53:26
wondered if Carol brunnett if they essentially shot the dress show and that
00:53:31
allowed for a lot more spontaneity you know because it's the first time you're com take is good yeah yeah I think they
00:53:40
did I I think they did shoot both of them but uh I think they leaned heavily towards the one on air but yeah if
00:53:47
you're going to run a dress why not shoot it right I mean well they shoot it and the air sometimes goes higher but I
00:53:55
I it just one of got cold out there the audience it's a tractor pull to get into that studio waiting and late and um you
00:54:03
know you know one of mine early ones was Michael J fox impression and he came on
00:54:08
the the child actors we were going to rob a bank together or something and uh that was I think a smile bit super
00:54:15
hilarious and so I was playing Michael J fox he was playing Danny bonuchi and
00:54:20
when I was doing a speech right to him he started cracking up and dress and it was a [ __ ] monster and then on air he
00:54:27
didn't laugh cuz he' heard it and I'm like where was this please God air the
00:54:33
[ __ ] dress was there was a bit where someone was spraying water at Colin for the dress show and it was the first time
00:54:41
and then it just had this magic to it and then the air show was fine perfectly great but there is something about the
00:54:48
first time you can't like top it that's crew knows it's coming half the I mean the cast sees it once so it's not 100%
00:54:56
it's a thing that don't Peak at dress it's a thing do not peek at dress car was the uh was the schedule still the
00:55:03
same and what part did they asked you to participate in did you still have that Monday thing where everybody sat around
00:55:08
Lauren's office because I I came in just to do Biden contract I was sort of I was
00:55:14
placed with Maya Rudolph and Gaffigan and Andy Samberg and so they the first
00:55:21
show they asked gaffan and I to come into the read through which is now an 8 H and it's like a giant there's kiding
00:55:29
it's a h I didn't know this you got Place cards and table CLS and snacks and there's a piano and they they do
00:55:36
Symphony Orchestra they bring in classical music and so they have those massage chairs
00:55:43
like at the airport where you sit kneel on them what we we were doing a circle jerk
00:55:48
in a broom closet on 17 it it's harder to kill there a lot of the writers kind of miss that up up on 17 the of the room
00:55:57
it's just dissipates Hy's leftovers yeah you know that that meeting room on 17
00:56:05
really was Thunderdome wasn't it man you sweat box you often Saw Killer shots
00:56:10
there but there was a couple times where people overreached I don't even want to name names because I'm old and
00:56:15
conciliatory now but a couple times you can remember people really going for something and it's just hanging there
00:56:22
and you know Lauren would all right moving on oh the bo was breaking records
00:56:28
it was everyone was so nervous it was sickening and then they someone would get up her L would crack the window a
00:56:34
quarter inch and be freezing within two seconds and it's like it's like the worst is when they do Show and Tell like
00:56:41
you put on a little hat or you have a little instrument or something or a vest sweater and you're going to stand up and
00:56:47
act it out and then it's dead silence you know U moving on I'm a yane
00:56:53
doodle sad little say Circ you know back think about how lucky
00:57:01
it was I mean geez I uh you know I look back and I was never a cool kid and I
00:57:08
think spudley and you seem but little I I don't know of your youth as much but
00:57:14
uh I think we're all a little bit nerdly and all of a sudden you're in the crosshairs of it man and when I look
00:57:20
back I just always think wow how lucky that was to be in that room with all its
00:57:25
with all its uh you know sort of dles hanging over your head and if you [ __ ] up three weeks in a row you were
00:57:30
probably gone but uh I looked back and it was uh it was the juice wasn't it man
00:57:37
you the spice as they say in Doom you really got the spice in that room I feel
00:57:42
for the you know the young cast and a lot of the people you know there's 18 or 20 I don't know how many cast members
00:57:48
and I was talking to one of them once and he goes look it's it's hard to be relaxed out there because you know if
00:57:54
you go out there and you don't quite land it then you're not going to be written for it you're not going to be in
00:57:59
the show for a few weeks so it's hard to get loose when we came in Dennis we had such a small
00:58:05
cast that everybody got their reps in which it look if I had not gone on that
00:58:10
show I don't I think I'm I'm playing yuck yucks in uh Merced tonight you know
00:58:17
so that was my ticket you know I was 31 when I got on there I'd had my tenures
00:58:22
in the clubs and I bombed every every pilot that they put me in and the Burton
00:58:28
Kirk film and it was a disaster Dam damage Goods to your point the luck of getting on there and then of course you
00:58:34
were like made out of a factory to be the update guy cuz you could land jokes
00:58:40
and you're such a reader I mean it really matters to be able to read really well is a big Advantage see a card you
00:58:48
know nail
00:58:53
it yeah Larry King said to me one night I had him on my HBO show and he said God
00:58:58
you know how to read a prompter and I I I I you know some people would take that as a you're a prompter chimp joke I
00:59:06
looked at him and said Larry that's the nicest thing anybody could say that is nice it's hard to do but it was
00:59:12
difference let me ask you a question this is technical for the people listening still like Q cards versus
00:59:20
prompter what would you PR cards me too because it kept you uh listen that can
00:59:26
go r i there is something you were talking about first show second show I want to sound too like uh we don't sit
00:59:32
there and do Oppenheimer things on blackboards about how the show goes but half of the thing is the frison uh of it
00:59:40
fear you know like the surface tension when you overpour glass that tremble that's where the whole money shot is on
00:59:46
that show and I always thought the cards sometimes they wouldn't come out at the same pace and you felt less robotic
00:59:53
about it it could go a ride plus my card girl was was Tom Laughlin's daughter Billy Jack's daughter which I always dug
00:59:59
that because I love Billy Jack so much so whenever I was in trouble with the crowd I'd think of saying when I see
01:00:04
what you've done to this little audience I just go pivot kick berserk like in the ice cream parlor but uh the the fact
01:00:12
that it could go wrong a little I always dug that uh feeling because then when you conquered it and it didn't always go
01:00:19
right there were times and boy you were hang dog the next day if you blew you screwed the pooch as they say at Nasa
01:00:25
but for most part you're not going to screw the pooch there because you get you you do it with some degree of
01:00:30
alacrity and uh I used to like that man not feeling carve you remember when
01:00:36
you'd come up and do something at the desk and we would just be howling at how
01:00:42
how maxed out it was and spudley used to kill with the uh you know the
01:00:48
guywood yeah it was well we we know the power of home
01:00:53
base and right to camera because when I was I was doing church lady and David was out doing Hunter Biden and it was
01:01:00
getting used to that idea of look don't look at the cards there's the wide shot
01:01:05
there's the money shot also kind of glance over at your guest but don't go too profile it's just getting used to
01:01:12
all that but money you know when I was doing Biden normally it was just straight ahead it's much
01:01:19
easier gives me chills thinking about it when you're on that show and you're
01:01:24
you're in a good sketch catch and you do your lines and you kind of miss them you lay down a broken bat single and you
01:01:32
walk back off camera and everyone every one kind of darts their eyes you're like [ __ ] I had two lines to get it right I
01:01:38
just kind of missed it or you fluff it you're like if I just had one more take it would be better but you do that too
01:01:44
many like you said in a row you it's so under rehearsed and the director Liz who's a lovely person I really got
01:01:51
myself in her shoes of like you're doing Hunter I'm doing my thing how long do you hold right after the laugh or do you
01:01:58
cut after the line and then of course bumbling a line is so
01:02:04
painful or not getting a laugh and realizing later the camera wasn't on you
01:02:09
yeah the cutting because she doesn't have that much time or we had Davey Wilson it's it's such a fly by night
01:02:15
thing so but when it works it's magic put it that way for sure well Carver you had a nice uh return there man you hit
01:02:21
the ball really hard every day I'd go I'm golfing a lot now and the guys at my golf of course would always oh Cary
01:02:27
killed me over the weekend so nice to know you were still putting Good Wood on the ball brother how how'd your chops
01:02:32
feel did it come back to you right away or it never went um well I you know I'd
01:02:38
done some Biden just slowly but surely I was gathering a Biden up you know
01:02:43
because I noticed no one was really doing him you know and so when I went there and read through I didn't I was
01:02:49
this just coalescing in my head but Lauren was sitting next to me and no one had really kind of figured out out Biden
01:02:56
how to make it funny or sensitive or whatever so I just had I had this thing of and guess what and by the way just
01:03:03
that and then I saw Lauren shoulders go up like that and he was happy so I knew I had a hook and I think that I was
01:03:11
discovering it with the audience live in real time but yeah it came back to me for sure it felt like I was home again
01:03:19
doing rhythms and I'd had a warmup with him on on on this podcast and I had some
01:03:24
clips out with him up with the Biden I was doing so I had a lot of H good honing because you got to
01:03:30
make mistakes here boy when they're cutting back and forth between the shots here spade looks like he's in some uh
01:03:37
swing you know private booth uh somewhere in a VIP booth and
01:03:42
then you got to you got to uh trick that place out a little that room you're in you got you got that table over here it
01:03:50
looks like uh the Pixar opening credits with that lamp or something you got to get the
01:03:57
get get get some flowers in there or something get some
01:04:03
flowers leave this over on the left it's like The Honeymooners it's like Cron's place with the pixel light on top of it
01:04:10
spudley what's your book over your shoulder what what are you selling there what's that oh that was a John lennin
01:04:17
book because I bought the glasses John Lin's glasses and that's wear on that
01:04:23
book and uh this this is Dana White gave me this your boy gave me that Bruce Lee
01:04:30
skateboard Dennis you can react whenever you're ready I thought well I just thought uh we we give him an edit point
01:04:37
there in case we're wrapped up because I got a split soon oh yeah let's go um
01:04:43
that's it Dennis um been hilarious we love you and you're one of the uh I
01:04:50
don't know if you should retire you're still better than 99 to 100% of the comics out I'm liking being retired man
01:04:55
you know what I just uh the I just want to explore what it's like not do it you
01:05:02
know I did it so long that I thought I don't even know what I'm like as a when did I started writing jokes and staying
01:05:08
in that uh that guys that maybe at 30 71 now and I just thought man you know why
01:05:15
don't I analyze hopefully I get another 10 or 20 I'm going to just try to see what it's
01:05:20
like being what am I what am I like without all the trappings of that well do you find did you find this because I
01:05:27
feel like if I go before I ever did standup then I start to do it just as a
01:05:34
nobody in San Francisco just this little bit of tension or weight it would come and go but it was just there I should be
01:05:41
writing more material I should be doing that a club and then SNL I should did that and that movie bombed I got to do this and I got and so there's still like
01:05:48
this sort of weightiness when you're connected to it and the excitement of that and making money and all that but I
01:05:53
just wonder when you Psych logically take that away does your relaxation
01:05:59
quotient go way up well I've been reading and I saw Seinfeld was reading this too which is intriguing to me
01:06:05
because uh I've been reading a lot of the stoics Marcus Aurelius sen and uh
01:06:11
trying yeah he he's into that and I'm just trying to see what's on the other side of that apprehension about not
01:06:18
doing it I I think there's something important there I don't want to sound too ethereal and maybe I'll find out
01:06:23
that I just missed doing it maybe you'll see me you know back in a walker D doing jokes or something but right now I'm
01:06:29
thinking okay I always diffused that sort of anxiety or fear of the Unknown
01:06:36
by telling a joke or getting up on stage or smiling and glad handing and and I thought what's what's beyond that so I'm
01:06:43
just trying to sit in it for a moment and I'm finding on the other side of it I'm kind of enjoying that lack of
01:06:49
apprehension because let's face facts I don't care how much you feel safe going out on stage and you do get safer over
01:06:56
the years i' still getting there the going AC cross country and getting there
01:07:02
and going to the place and right before you go on and then it can go wrong at
01:07:07
any moment I mean I you you the moment you start thinking this can't go wrong it's like Robin's old bit that he did in
01:07:14
his first special about step inside the comedian's mind where you hear that submarine clocks and go mayday
01:07:21
mayday Dive Dive yeah so I don't miss I don't miss that part of it but when a
01:07:27
joke pops into my head I often think uh well listen I'll call Cary with church Biden but not get smacked back in your
01:07:34
face like the one quick question just how does stoicism relate to what you just
01:07:42
said um just letting go or being in the moment or not making problems that don't
01:07:50
exist is kind of part of it right well I'm trying to find out I used to control things with my Showbiz career in a way
01:07:57
because you can manage that you're really managing an efficient organization to some degree when you're
01:08:02
in the middle of it and then I realize that you're not managing anything and if the you know I don't know when this airs
01:08:09
but if the Palisades doesn't remind you that yeah I was just trying to get my
01:08:15
head around the fact that really you don't you have to balance not
01:08:20
controlling anything except your thought processes and still leading a happy non
01:08:27
morbid life you don't have to be forlorn about I'm just trying to find that delicate where the Ben diagram Taps
01:08:33
where you realize that you don't have any control over it and in an odd way that should free you up to not worry
01:08:41
about it as much so things happen that makes a lot of sense
01:08:46
yeah all right boys well you know I love you both and I love you with all my heart it's been a blast hanging out with
01:08:52
you and then we also recorded it and we'll get paid so check in now and then and give us some new stuff if you got
01:08:58
jokes to burn well listen you got to get rid of I've been staring at Bruce Le's
01:09:03
nipple for an hour here now and it appears he only has one in that
01:09:09
photo and who else had one nipple in famous lore Harvey I'll quiz you there
01:09:16
Anderson Paul Harvey
01:09:23
which scaramanga the man with a golden gun played by the great yeah that guy
01:09:29
that guy no he had a third nipple he got Bruce Le's other one I
01:09:34
just remember there was some sort of arola discrepancy was among
01:09:41
discrep all right Dennis love you buddy love you buddy this has been a presentation of
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