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Forensic Files - Season 4, Episode 13 - Slippery Motives - Full Episode

November 04, 2021 / 21:42

This episode covers the suspicious drowning of Julie Post in 1986, the investigation into her husband Ed Post, and the subsequent trial.

Ed Post discovered his wife dead in their hotel bathtub after jogging in St. Louis. The initial autopsy ruled her death accidental, but investigators had doubts due to Ed's unusual behavior and financial motives.

Evidence emerged that Ed had increased Julie's life insurance shortly before her death. Friends noted their troubled marriage, and Ed's interest in a coworker raised further suspicions.

Prosecutors conducted a second autopsy and found bruises not noted in the first. Tests on the towel ring indicated it could not have been pulled off by Julie, suggesting foul play.

Ultimately, Ed Post was convicted of first-degree murder but later pleaded guilty to second-degree murder in exchange for a reduced sentence.

TL;DR

Ed Post was convicted of murdering his wife Julie after suspicious circumstances and evidence emerged during the investigation.

Episode

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while on a business trip in 1986
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ed poe spent the morning jogging near
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his hotel in downtown st louis
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when he returned to his hotel room
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he discovered his wife dead
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in the bathtub
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the medical examiner ruled the death was
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by drowning
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presumably
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accidental
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but homicide investigators weren't so
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sure
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hmm
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ed post met julie thigpen when they were
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both students at the university of
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southern mississippi in the 1960s
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they married in 1967 had two daughters
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and moved to new orleans
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ed went to work in the real estate
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business
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his outgoing personality and
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sophisticated manner made him a
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successful salesman right from the start
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i thought ed was a good fellow what
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you'd expect a real estate salesman to
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be kind of relentlessly cheerful
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after a few years ed post became part
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owner of the wagner truax real estate
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firm
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julie post also joined the company and
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was very successful selling over a
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million dollars of real estate every
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year from 1982 on
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in june of 1986 the posts attended a
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real estate convention in saint louis
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missouri at the omni hotel at union
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station
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on the morning of june 3rd
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ed post decided to go jogging before the
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meeting started
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he said he drew his wife a bath and woke
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her before leaving around 7am
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julie
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julie
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it's time to wake up
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on his way out he thanked the hotel's
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concierge for a suggestion she made to
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the posts the day before really
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wonderful i'm so glad it's a wonderful
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place if there's anything else i can do
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for you just let me know
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hello siri having a nice day yes i am
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thank you have a nice run sure head post
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jog past bush stadium
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around the city's famous arch and
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returned to the hotel at 7 40. how was
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your run sir
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it's great that's true had a great
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workout this morning
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have a nice day sir
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when he entered his hotel room
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he said he discovered his wife lying
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face down and unconscious in the bathtub
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after pulling her body from the water he
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called for an ambulance at 7 43.
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it looked as if julie post lost her
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footing and grabbed the towel ring which
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pulled out of the wall
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at the hospital julie post was
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pronounced dead she was 39 years old
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the autopsy revealed that death was due
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to drowning
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ed post immediately phoned his brother
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who was a lawyer together they
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photographed the broken towel ring and
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wall mount for a lawsuit against the
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hotel
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his brother told a policeman here in
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saint louis i'm assumed for 450 million
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dollars you watch
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ed post was convinced that had it not
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been for the faulty towel ring his wife
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julie might still be alive
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after julie post was pronounced dead
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an autopsy was performed in saint louis
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before the body was transported to new
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orleans for burial
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the autopsy found no sign of alcohol or
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drugs in her system
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there were no skull fractures or
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bleeding in the brain that would have
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been present if the victim had been
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struck in the head before drowning
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in short
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the pathologist could find no evidence
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of foul play
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i was certainly not convinced that it
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was an accident
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on the other hand i couldn't prove that
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it was
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anything else
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on the death certificate the manner of
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death was undetermined
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when the saint louis post dispatch
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reported the news of julie post's death
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there were some interesting reactions
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dee joyce hayes was a prosecutor in the
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district attorney's office her husband
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gary was a detective in the saint louis
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police department
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he had just read an article about a
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woman
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who was who had drowned in a bathtub at
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the omni hotel
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and
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she said gary make sure you read this it
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doesn't sound right to me we both read
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the article and looked at each other and
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said
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nah
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no way
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the hotel management found it hard to
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believe that a 120 pound woman like
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julie post could have pulled the towel
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ring from the wall since the ring had
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been designed to withstand more than
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twice that weight
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we went to the two adjoining rooms
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and i
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probably weighed close to 220 pounds at
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the time
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with all my weight hung onto both towel
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rings in both rooms and neither one of
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them gave
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nothing
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ed post told police that he and his wife
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had a very good relationship
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but a background check of the post's
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finances revealed an interesting
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coincidence we went to the insurance
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company
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and lo and behold
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i don't know 27 29 days uh prior to
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julie
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poe's death
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ed had it increased her insurance like
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four or five hundred thousand dollars
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now this is a woman who's making
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uh in the low to mid twenty thousand
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dollar a year
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range and salary
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and he's got this
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six seven hundred thousand dollar life
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insurance policy on his wife
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that's when i
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begin to believe maybe we have something
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here police also discovered that ed post
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was enamored with the married woman who
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worked in his office her name was kim
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otan
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on the day of julie post's funeral ed
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made an unusual request to kim otan
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kim otan had a twin sister and at the
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time of the funeral
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of julie
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ed post said to kim otan maybe when this
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is over you can set me up with your
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sister
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and that seemed
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a most inappropriate thing to be saying
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and particularly saying at the time that
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he's alleged to have said it
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police were also suspicious about the
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way ed post told the story of finding
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his wife's body
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the story never varied almost as if it
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had been rehearsed
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st louis police tape recorded those
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conversations
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and then when she came over the edge of
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the tub
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uh
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being as wet as she was uh in the water
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then at that point once i got her
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partially out of the tub i was not
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prepared for what happened next which
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was she literally slid out at that point
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do you think that because she did hit
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her head on the front portion
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it's the fact that ed pulse
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in his
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golden tongue
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glib
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manor
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came off as a
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as a non-caring
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person that
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had this alibi
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who had everything down
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pat i mean he didn't change his story
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one iota from the first time he told it
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to the second time he told it
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and some of the hotel employees noticed
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that ed post was acting suspiciously on
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the morning of the accident
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before leaving the hotel for his morning
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run
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ed post made sure that the concierge
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knew who he was thanking her for a favor
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she did for him the day before i believe
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you're the one that told us about the
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botanical gardens my wife finally had a
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chance to visit there yesterday it was
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spectacular really wonderful i'm so glad
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and the hotel doorman said that post
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introduced himself by name before going
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out for his run are you enjoying your
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stay yes i am thank you my name is ed
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post i'm going on a run this morning
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i'll be going about 30 minutes uh watch
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out for me please i sure will have a
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nice run sure he made it a point
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to say good morning to the doorman at
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the hotel
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say who he was and what room he was in
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and that he was going to go out and jog
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i mean like it was from the book of who
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cares the doorman didn't care
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why would you do that
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but all of these incidents simply raised
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suspicions
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homicide investigators had no hard
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evidence that ed post played any role in
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his wife's death
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investigators decided to conduct more
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sophisticated tests on the broken towel
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ring to see if a woman julie post size
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could have pulled it from the wall
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during a fall
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prosecutors in saint louis were starting
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to wonder whether the death of julie
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post in the hotel bathtub was truly an
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accident
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the autopsy did not find any evidence of
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foul play
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so prosecutors decided to exhume julie
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post's remains for a second autopsy
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she had been buried in a cemetery
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outside of new orleans
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the water table is so high in new
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orleans that most people are buried in
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above ground vaults
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but julie post had been buried in the
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ground
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and her body was placed in a wooden
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casket
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investigators feared that water damage
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to the body would be significant
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when they opened the grave it was almost
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completely filled with water
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fortunately the foot of the casket was
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the part that sunk
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her head was the only part of her body
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that was not submerged in water and her
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head
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was in perfect shape
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the casket had collapsed and pushed down
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and had pressed flattened her nose from
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the pressure but that was the only
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disfiguration from the collapsing of the
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casket most of the casket collapsed had
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been at the foot end
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the pathologist who performed the second
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autopsy found numerous bruises that were
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not noted during the first autopsy
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that's not unusual because some bruising
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continues to develop even after death
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ed post's attorney said that the
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additional bruises proved nothing that
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they could have been caused by the
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removing of her organs and bones for
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donation shortly after her death
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but the pathologist found two new
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bruises in a critical area
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the only additional finding at the
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autopsy
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was an area of bruising that was very
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low far down on the back of the head in
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the upper neck region
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where in a normal autopsy i usually
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don't take the scalp down quite that far
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i'm looking at these bruises and as far
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as i'm concerned it's from a thumb
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and a hand
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if you're holding somebody under water
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you got to hold them by the base of the
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neck if you're they're going
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next prosecutors turned their attention
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to the metal towel ring found inside the
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tub next to julie post's body
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the towel ring was attached to metal
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studs inside the wall with one and a
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half inch screws the ring and wall mount
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had been designed and manufactured to
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withstand hundreds of pounds of force
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prosecutors hired bolter kelsey an
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accident reconstructionist to attempt to
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recreate the accident
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kelsey conducted his experiments at the
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hotel omni
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in a room with an identical towel ring
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attached to the wall in the same way as
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the towel ring in ed and julie post's
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room
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and for the test
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kelsey used a woman who was the same
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height and weight as julie post
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kelsey asked the model to simulate a
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fall by grabbing onto the towel ring
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with all of her weight nothing happened
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then she was asked to wrench the ring
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back and forth
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again
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nothing happened
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what we found was that
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doing some calculations based on what
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information we had on the ultimate
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strength of the ring
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that we could not
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remove it or a person couldn't remove it
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at that size unless she fell about 64
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feet
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and grabbed the towel ring as she went
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by and of course the hotel room has an
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eight-foot ceiling
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so there's no way that that could happen
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finally as a last resort kelsey asked
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the model to use both hands to remove
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the towel ring in any way she could
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after considerable effort
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the ring came off
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concept the julie post somehow
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grabbed this towel ring during a fall
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and pulled it off the wall was
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impossible it could not physically have
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happened that way
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next prosecutors sent an identical towel
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ring and wall mount to dr william wines
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a professor of mechanical engineering at
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the university of nebraska in lincoln dr
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wines was asked to determine how much
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force was required to remove the towel
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ring from the wall attachment
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those tests revealed that it took
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between 480 and 500 pounds of force to
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remove it from the wall
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it was also obvious very early on the
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testing that those types of modes of
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force application straight pulls pulls
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down
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clearly didn't match the evidence the
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the deformed towering the failed
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tolerance didn't look anything like the
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towering in question here
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the base plate had damage underneath the
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stem
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and on the left side the towel ring
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itself also had been damaged
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dr wines performed 23 different tests to
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reproduce the damage found on the base
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plate and towel ring
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all without success
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but on test number 24 dr wines produced
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something very close that test indicated
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that the towel ring was removed from
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outside the bathtub
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our conclusion was that it was taken off
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the wall
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by someone with considerable strength
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and it was
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uh you know the type of action where one
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would grab it and pull outside the tub
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and it was
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if you look at the location of it it
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would be consistent for instance with
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someone like putting their foot on the
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edge of the tub and grabbing the towel
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ring and then pulling it off out out
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toward the outside of the tub
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prosecutors now had scientific proof
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that julie post's death was no accident
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in 1986 new orleans was going through
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its worst economic downturn since the
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great depression
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many local businesses were affected and
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real estate was just one more casualty
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ed post was 10 owner of the wagner truax
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real estate business and was responsible
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for 10 of the losses which in 1985 and
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86 were substantial
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and the post's marriage was going
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through a downturn of its own
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friends said that ed and julie fought
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frequently fights which were sometimes
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physical
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and kim otan who worked with the posts
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said that ed post had made advances
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towards her in the months before julie's
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death
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i think that ed fell in love with kim
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otan just him being a free man
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wouldn't get kim
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he had to be a free man with lots of
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money
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[Music]
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to compete with her husband
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and
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he hatched his plan
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prosecutors believe that plan was in
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motion one month before julie's death
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when ed post increased his wife's life
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insurance
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on june 3rd
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1986
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before going out for his morning run
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prosecutors believe that post drowned
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his wife in the hotel bathtub
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afterwards
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he pulled the towel ring from the wall
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not only to corroborate his cover story
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that julie fell while holding onto the
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towel ring but also for the money the
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potential settlement from the hotel in a
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civil lawsuit
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after the murder
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post made sure to speak with both the
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hotel concierge and doorman to cement
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his alibi yes i am thank you my name is
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ed post i'm going to be going on a run
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this morning thank you
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the whole business with the towering
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which is really what killed him
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not literally but figuratively
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you know he had to go pull that off the
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wall
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he had to go pull that off the wall so
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that he could set up a lawsuit against
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the omni hotel and get more money
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the greedy s.o.b
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three years after julie post's death
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ed post went on trial
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for first degree murder
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ed post pleaded not guilty and took the
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stand in his own defense ed's demeanor
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on the stand i think could best be
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described
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as follows
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he was very well dressed he was very
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articulate
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spoke
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at a very sophisticated level
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including his use of the language
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spoke i think far differently
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than
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the jurors were accustomed to speaking
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or hearing
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uh he did not speak with a southern
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accent at all although he was from new
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orleans
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and he came across
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as
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ed often came across
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as condescending
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and i think that
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those things did not play well
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and the scientific experts provided
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powerful testimony that julie post was
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not capable of removing the towel ring
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during a fall
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it took the jury less than a day to
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reach its verdict
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ed post was found guilty of first degree
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murder and was sentenced to life in
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prison without possibility of parole ed
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post and his attorneys appealed the
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conviction
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and in a plea bargain post agreed to
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plead guilty to second-degree murder and
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confessed to the murder of his wife in
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exchange for a 30-year prison sentence
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that included the possibility of parole
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if he doesn't take the towering off
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he gets away with it
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it's just an accidental drowning
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i
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mean at how it happened almost everybody
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classified it as undetermined or
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accidental
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but for that
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ed posted beyond his merry way he
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probably sued the army got a couple
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million dollars and
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had seven hundred thousand life
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insurance
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wouldn't know who he was
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in my opinion
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the most important thing
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in the trial
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was the science it was the tile ring
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when you when you can show that it was
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wretched back and forth back and forth
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until it until it broke or until it came
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loose
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that convicted him
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if he would have left that out of there
00:21:00
he might be a free man today
00:21:03
[Music]
00:21:14
[Music]
00:21:22
so
00:21:25
[Music]
00:21:25
[Applause]
00:21:29
[Music]
00:21:40
you

Badges

This episode stands out for the following:

  • 80
    Most shocking
  • 80
    Biggest twist
  • 75
    Most dramatic
  • 75
    Most surprising

Episode Highlights

  • Tragic Discovery
    Ed Post returns to find his wife Julie dead in the bathtub, ruled an accidental drowning.
    “He discovered his wife dead in the bathtub.”
    @ 00m 21s
    November 04, 2021
  • Suspicion Arises
    Investigators question the circumstances of Julie's death after Ed's actions raise red flags.
    “Homicide investigators weren't so sure.”
    @ 00m 31s
    November 04, 2021
  • Scientific Evidence
    Prosecutors present scientific proof that Julie's death was no accident, leading to Ed's conviction.
    “The science it was the towel ring that convicted him.”
    @ 20m 44s
    November 04, 2021

Episode Quotes

  • I thought Ed was a good fellow, what you'd expect from a real estate salesman.
    Forensic Files - Season 4, Episode 13 - Slippery Motives - Full Episode
  • The most important thing in the trial was the science, it was the towel ring.
    Forensic Files - Season 4, Episode 13 - Slippery Motives - Full Episode

Key Moments

  • Morning Jog00:10
  • Tragic Death00:21
  • Insurance Increase06:26
  • Suspicious Actions08:38
  • Trial Verdict19:43
  • Life Sentence19:48

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