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Forensic Files - Season 9, Episode 12 - The Financial Downfall - Full Episode

January 01, 2022 / 21:42

This episode covers the trial of Virginia McGinnis for the murder of Donna Hartman, forensic evidence, and the suspicious circumstances surrounding Hartman's death.

Donna Hartman, a 20-year-old woman, fell 500 feet from a cliff in Big Sur, California. Witnesses reported her wearing high-heeled shoes, which may have contributed to her fall. However, her family questioned the circumstances and hired attorney Steve Keaney to investigate.

Photographs taken shortly before her death showed Donna appearing disoriented, raising suspicions about foul play. Investigators discovered that Virginia McGinnis had taken out a life insurance policy on Donna just one day before her death, which further complicated the case.

Forensic analysis revealed traces of a drug in Donna's system, suggesting she may have been incapacitated. The investigation led to the arrest of Virginia and her partner B.J. McGinnis, with evidence indicating that Donna may have been pushed off the cliff.

The trial was held at the crime scene, making it a historic event in American judicial history. Ultimately, Virginia was found guilty of first-degree murder and sentenced to life in prison.

TL;DR

Virginia McGinnis was convicted of murdering Donna Hartman, who fell from a cliff under suspicious circumstances after a life insurance policy was taken out on her.

Episode

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for the first time in american judicial
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history
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a trial was held on the edge of a cliff
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overlooking the pacific ocean
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for three days a judge and jury heard
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the forensic evidence interpreted very
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differently by the prosecution and by
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the defense
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was the death of a beautiful young woman
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an accident
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or was it cold-blooded murder
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[Applause]
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[Music]
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[Applause]
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big sur california 90 miles of high
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windswept cliffs sparkling ocean water
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and some of the most spectacular
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coastlines in north america
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sightseers come from all over the world
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just to enjoy the magnificent scenery
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but you have to be careful it can be
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dangerous
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you won't get a few months in the summer
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going by without someone falling and
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seriously being hurt or killed
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three tourists from san diego were
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walking along the cliffside overlooked
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known as seal beach
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the couple started walking towards their
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car
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their friend stayed behind to enjoy the
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spectacular view just a little longer
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when the couple turned around
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she was gone
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they rushed to the cliff's edge
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and they were horrified to discover that
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she had apparently fallen some 500 feet
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down the cliff
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they ran to a store nearby for help
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rescue workers found the woman at the
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bottom of the cliff
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she was dead
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there was no way she could have survived
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the 500-foot drop
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unfortunately
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accidents here do happen
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everybody wants to climb out and get
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that picture of the ocean behind them so
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they're out on the edge on the precipice
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and
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things happen one of the fellas said
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people fall off the cliff like logs out
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here
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the victim was 20 year old donna hartman
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it was absolutely horrible
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when you know that
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one of the almost phobias that this
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young woman had was heights
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and she dies in this manner it's
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particularly a horrible event
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she recently separated from her husband
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and had been living and traveling with
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her friends virginia and b.j mcginnis
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donna was a wonderful young lady but she
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was challenged her iq was probably 85 or
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90 somewhere in there
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she was wonderful and friendly and
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thoughtful her husband was in the navy
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at the scene
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the mcginnis has told investigators that
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donna was wearing high-heeled shoes
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which might have caused her to lose her
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footing as she stood at the edge of the
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cliff
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in the photographs taken by the
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mcguinnesses shortly before the fall
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donna was wearing high-heeled shoes
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the autopsy of donna hartman was routine
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the autopsy on our victim was not a true
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forensic autopsy
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it was an autopsy and it did show cause
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of death but it was not in the greater
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detail that you would want had you
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suspected foul play from the get-go
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the cause of death was a basal skull
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fracture a massive blow to the back of
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the head
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consistent with someone falling 500 feet
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to their death
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but donna's family in louisville
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kentucky had questions about what
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happened so they hired a civil attorney
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named steve keaney to help them get
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answers
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i wish the coroner had done a better job
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i don't know what california standards
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are but you would think that california
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would be closer to the cutting edge this
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was far behind the cutting edge
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and
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those responsibilities made it very
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difficult to show with any certainty to
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the insurance company or to a court or
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anyone else exactly what the cause of
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death here was
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what troubled keaney
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with the photographs taken of donna
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shortly before her death
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they told a story that was much
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different from the mcginnis's account
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local authorities took no photographs at
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the scene of donna hartman's fatal fall
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because rescue workers believed it was
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an accident
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so investigators asked donna's traveling
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companions virginia and b.j mcginnis for
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a copy of the photos they took that day
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they're using a disc camera which has a
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rigid film
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on a circle so we know the sequence of
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the photographs where they were taken
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early in the sequence
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donna appears happy and alert
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but photos taken later show something
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different
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the later photographs show a person
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who's docile
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who looks exhausted her hands are down
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her face face facial muscles are slack
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and she just doesn't and the eyes are
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somewhat droopy uh appears as if she is
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either intoxicated or stoned
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the next photo in the sequence shows b.j
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mcginnis and donna standing at the edge
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of the cliff
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the victim's eyes quite appropriately
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are looking at the waters below mr
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mcginnis
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is
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behind the victim the victim is
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a few feet from the edge of the of the
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cliff
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mr mcginnis left hand is on the victim's
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left shoulder
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investigators thought bj's position was
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extremely suspicious the only reason
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he's looking to the right is
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you know we would speculate to look for
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vehicles
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look see if anyone can see
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and that's the last photograph taken of
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her life it's almost as though she's in
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motion then and the husband's hands up
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against donna's shoulder
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and the last four pictures were even
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more unusual
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i think those four photos are
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surveillance pictures i think that was
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virginia mcginnis
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looking through the viewfinder of her
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camera to make sure
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nobody saw what they did they're not
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photographs that taurus is going to take
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and
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and particularly the fact that the
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sequence
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to this day i don't understand why they
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were taken
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there's a shot looking down the cliff
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where donna fell
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then
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three panoramic views
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one to the left
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another to the right
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and the last
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behind them
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now if she has slipped and fallen
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then who's taking sightseeing
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photographs
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i mean
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who cares about a camera let's see if we
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can save her
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that film says they saw her when she
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fell off the cliff
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and they kept taking pictures
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investigators now suspected that b.j
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mcginnis deliberately pushed donna over
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the cliff to her death
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but what was the motive
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investigators discovered that the
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mcginnis had taken out a 35 000 life
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insurance policy on donna hartman just
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one day before her death
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the insurance agent said that virginia
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mcginnis asked him a curious question
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she turned to him on the way out of the
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door and said this is applicable to an
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accidental death isn't it
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it was i don't deal with too many claims
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for life insurance but that doesn't
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sound appropriate to me almost as a
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matter of fact the beneficiary was
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virginia mcginnis's son who was in
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prison
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he was listed as donna's fiancee even
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though he and donna were already married
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to other people
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the mcginnesses filed a claim to collect
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on the life insurance policy
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just one day after donna's death
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virginia plopped the insurance policy
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down on the desk of the agent he looked
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up and said you're kidding she's dead
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well it's a pretty incredible story but
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you know in the end
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you have to pause
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surely somebody somewhere bought a life
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insurance policy and had the bad luck to
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have the deceased die the next day
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it's not proof but it sure stinks
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investigators wanted to know why donna
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hartman looked so alert and vivacious in
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pictures taken earlier on the day she
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died but later on that day she seemed
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drowsy and disoriented
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the circumstances that we had indicated
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a homicide
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not an accidental death and our job was
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to prove it or disprove it
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we had virtually no evidence
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donna's autopsy was fairly routine
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and the toxicology tests were routine as
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well i would characterize the autopsy as
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meaning minimal professional standards
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if i had to object it would be that
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it appeared that the possibility that
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foul play
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was really not taken into account so
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that extra measure perhaps was not done
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in this case
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the doctor who performed the autopsy was
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not a forensic pathologist but he did
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something virtually unheard of at the
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time
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for reasons not entirely clear
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he kept a vial of donna's blood in
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refrigerated storage and two years after
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her death it was sent to the forensic
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lab for testing
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a sample was placed in a gas
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chromatograph mass spectrometer which
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broke the blood down into its chemical
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components
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traces of a mil-triptyline a common
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antidepressant known as elevil were
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clearly present in donna's blood
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in someone who'd never taken the drug
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before
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i believe even one pill could cause them
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to be very drowsy dizzy possibly
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disoriented but how did ellaville get
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into her system
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the presence of ellaville in the
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victim's body was crucial because
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she had no prescription for it mr
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mcginnis had prescription for it
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moreover the effects of aloeville are
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evidenced by her behavior as seen in the
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photographs dizziness disorientation
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sluggishness the dose of elevil
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is determinative a tiny dose may have
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little or no effect a large dose can be
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so disorienting that you're drowsy you
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may even fall asleep standing on your
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feet
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at the very least you won't be alert
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investigators discovered donna and the
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mcguinnesses had lunch about two hours
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before she died
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the waiter who served them said that
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donna ordered a soft drink
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it's it's anyone's guess but if i had to
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to speculate i would say that at that
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point they put the olive oil in her coke
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but it's speculation
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but there was no way to prove it
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so investigators turned to another set
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of pictures the ones taken during
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donna's autopsy
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they were analyzed by forensic
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pathologist dr barbara weekley jones
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she noticed two things which were barely
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mentioned in the original autopsy
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wounds on the back of donna's hands but
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not on her palms
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and her fingernails were broken
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she's up like this and she's grabbing
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hold of the edge the nails will break
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off well the same
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you should have then abrasions on the
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palm or surface of your hands
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as you're going down and she did not
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have that all of her injuries are on the
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back of the hands
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why would someone who slid down a cliff
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have bruises on the backs of her hands
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but virtually
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no marks on her palms
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dr weakly jones said it was impossible
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to be sure but
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that she had a theory
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i think that she was pushed off the
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cliff and didn't make it and her hands
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were stomped on in order to get her to
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continue her fall off the cliff
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but the injuries on her hands were
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more consistent with a struggle or that
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scenario than than a simple fall off the
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cliff
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this was a harrowing possibility it
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meant
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that while donna was hanging onto the
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cliff's edge one or both of the
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mcguinnesses sent her
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to a certain death
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there was no what we call pattern injury
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to help determine as to what she was
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struck with she could have been struck
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with a fist for all i know or she could
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have been struck with an instrument
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these were the wounds of someone who was
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fending off an attack and then died as
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opposed to somebody who flopped down a
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cliff and had some things break along
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the way
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but were the mcguinnesses
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capable of cold-blooded murder
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and if they were
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could it be proven
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to find out
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investigators did a background check and
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were shocked by what they found
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virginia mcginnis was no stranger to
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deaths that looked like accidents
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in previous years
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virginia mcginnis had received payment
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from various insurance companies for
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other deaths and several suspicious
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accidents she had been involved in
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tragedy after tragedy
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residences had burned down
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relatives and loved ones had died in her
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care every house she'd lived in burned
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to the ground
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and her daughter
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her second husband
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and probably others all died under
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mysterious circumstances
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they all had
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incredible accidents
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with all the upheaval in her life there
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seemed to be one constant
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virginia made sure all of her husbands
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and children
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had life insurance
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you know jay leno says that what he
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loves is stupid criminals
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one thing about criminals is they're not
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holding a job
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every one of her life insurance policies
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was for the same amount 35 000
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because the face amount of the policies
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were so low
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insurance companies didn't question the
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settlement
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the insurance policy virginia purchased
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on donna hartman's life was also
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suspicious
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every single piece of that policy was
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either forged or faked
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except for
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the name of the person who would die
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donna hartman signed the policy and her
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signature was witnessed by alice cassane
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alice gethane lived next door to the
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mcguinnesses but she denied signing the
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insurance forms
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as proof
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she pointed out her name was misspelled
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on the document
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people don't misspell their own names
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when they sign their names so that's a
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red flag to the document examiner to the
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prosecutor to anyone involved in the
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case
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alice cassane's signature did not match
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her known signature samples and it had
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an unusual backward slant
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backhand slanting isn't necessarily an
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evidence of forgery but it is evidence
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of someone trying to change the way they
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write with a court order investigators
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forced virginia mcginnis to provide a
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handwriting sample
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i asked her to write
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alice cassane's name
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first in her own natural handwriting and
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then i asked her to write it in a
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backhand slant because that's how it
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appeared on the question document
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forensic document examiners concluded
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virginia mcginnis had signed alice
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cassane's name on the insurance policy
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it was not any different from her
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handwriting she merely had changed the
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slant in order to disguise her writing
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and make it indistinguishable from the
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rest of the writing on the form
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two years after the murder virginia and
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b.j mcginnis were arrested and charged
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with donna hartman's murder
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virginia now claimed she wasn't at the
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scene of the accident and as proof she
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reminded prosecutors she wasn't in any
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of the photographs
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but one of the photographs showed
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the shadow of the photographer
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was it possible for science to identify
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the photographer from the silhouette
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we knew what day it was and we knew what
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time it was because we had the 911 call
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that gave us the position of the sun
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and with the position of the sun and the
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distance to the rocks we were able to do
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the old high school pythagorean theorem
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a squared plus b squared equals c
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squared the distance between donna and
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the photographer was calculated by
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analyzing the millimeter of the camera
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lens
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by measuring the length and angle of the
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shadow and determining the exact
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location of the sun at the time the
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mcginnis has called police
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investigators reached an interesting
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conclusion
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the photographer was five feet six
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inches tall
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the same height as virginia mcginnis
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and if virginia was the photographer
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why did she take what was perhaps
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the most incriminating photo of all a
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photograph of donna just before she was
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pushed over the cliff
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i think virginia wanted a souvenir i
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think virginia wanted to revisit the
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death of donna and enjoy it over and
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over again i think she believed that by
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having that picture she would have
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something that would arouse in her the
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same excitement and the same violation
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of rules that she had felt live on the
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cliff when donna died
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virginia had apparently picked donna as
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an ideal victim
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just as donna was separating from her
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husband virginia befriended her
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donna was vulnerable and an easy mark
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for an experienced con artist like
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virginia
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she was
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absolutely a perfect victim
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because
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she was
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young relatively uneducated
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unsophisticated far from her home
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her husband was far away from her
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impressionable
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she trusted everyone
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would not ask questions
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donna fell into a spider web and became
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what i guess you'd call today a target
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of opportunity
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52-year-old b.j mcginnis
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never made it to court
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he died in prison while awaiting trial
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[Music]
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during virginia's trial
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the jury was taken to seal beach
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for three days
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court was held high above the beautiful
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pacific ocean on a windswept cliff where
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donna hartman had fallen to her death
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the trial lasted for three days
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the longest time a court had been in
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session at a suspected crime scene in
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american history
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jurors were asked to examine the cliff
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to determine for themselves
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whether virginia's story of an
00:20:08
accidental fall made sense
00:20:12
after a four-day deliberation
00:20:14
juror said
00:20:16
it didn't
00:20:17
and virginia was found guilty of first
00:20:19
degree murder
00:20:21
she was sentenced to life in prison
00:20:26
if you
00:20:27
care enough to listen
00:20:29
the forensic evidence
00:20:31
spoke loud and clear as well as all the
00:20:34
other evidence this was murder
00:20:36
and that the victim deserved her day in
00:20:39
court and she got it
00:20:40
what it really got down to was putting
00:20:43
the facts together in a scientific
00:20:44
communicated fashion to a jury
00:20:47
and they were able to make the decision
00:20:49
based upon the totality of the facts
00:20:51
without forensic science virginia
00:20:53
mcginnis today would still be looking
00:20:56
for victims she'd probably still be
00:20:58
killing she would be burning houses and
00:21:00
she would be collecting insurance with
00:21:01
your premiums
00:21:03
[Music]
00:21:13
[Music]
00:21:32
[Music]
00:21:41
you

Badges

This episode stands out for the following:

  • 85
    Most intense
  • 80
    Most dramatic
  • 80
    Best concept / idea
  • 80
    Biggest twist

Episode Highlights

  • Trial on the Edge
    For the first time in American history, a trial was held on a cliff overlooking the Pacific Ocean.
    “A trial was held on the edge of a cliff.”
    @ 00m 10s
    January 01, 2022
  • Suspicious Circumstances
    Donna Hartman's death raised questions, leading to a civil attorney being hired for answers.
    “Donna's family had questions about what happened.”
    @ 04m 00s
    January 01, 2022
  • Life Insurance Mystery
    Just one day before her death, a life insurance policy was taken out on Donna Hartman.
    “The McGuinnesses filed a claim to collect on the life insurance policy just one day after Donna's death.”
    @ 08m 28s
    January 01, 2022
  • Guilty Verdict
    After deliberation, Virginia McGinnis was found guilty of first-degree murder.
    “It didn't make sense and Virginia was found guilty of first-degree murder.”
    @ 20m 16s
    January 01, 2022

Episode Quotes

  • She was absolutely a perfect victim.
    Forensic Files - Season 9, Episode 12 - The Financial Downfall - Full Episode
  • This was murder and the victim deserved her day in court.
    Forensic Files - Season 9, Episode 12 - The Financial Downfall - Full Episode

Key Moments

  • Cliffside Trial00:10
  • Tragic Fall01:58
  • Suspicious Insurance07:47
  • Guilty Verdict20:19

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